Just noticed via bustimes.org that some routes, including the PN7 are having some changes made to times.
I thought the X7 was going in June ?
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 23, 2019, 06:18:53 PM
Just noticed via bustimes.org that some routes, including the PN7 are having some changes made to times.
Summer timetables perhaps?
Is there a list of the June changes
Anyone know what will be replacing the X7 between WN and Dudley to keep the 10 mins frequency ?
I'm assuming the new X8 timetable, with any amendments will be on traveline / NX website soon ?
Quote from: TT90 on April 23, 2019, 10:29:56 PM
Anyone know what will be replacing the X7 between WN and Dudley to keep the 10 mins frequency ?
I'm assuming the new X8 timetable, with any amendments will be on traveline / NX website soon ?
There's changes to the 126 aswell the same day
Quote from: Jack6101 on April 24, 2019, 05:40:31 AM
There's changes to the 126 aswell the same day
Does this mean that alternate 126s will continue through to Wolverhampton?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on April 24, 2019, 08:16:46 PM
Does this mean that alternate 126s will continue through to Wolverhampton?
Nothing has been publically announced to say whats changing to the 126 yet.
From what I can see it could just be a timetable change. If it remains at its present frequency likely so.
126 is every 15 minutes, X8 is every 20. So there's no way they can be coordinated at the present frequency. Registration on the VOSA site does still show Birmingham to Dudley.
Quote from: 2206 on April 24, 2019, 08:41:22 PM
Nothing has been publically announced to say whats changing to the 126 yet.
From what I can see it could just be a timetable change. If it remains at its present frequency likely so.
126 is every 15 minutes, X8 is every 20. So there's no way they can be coordinated at the present frequency. Registration on the VOSA site does still show Birmingham to Dudley.
Makes you wonder if they are going to reintroduce the 126 between Dudley & Wolverhampton again, have to say all this chopping and changing with routes doesn't portray a very good image!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2019, 11:04:59 PM
Makes you wonder if they are going to reintroduce the 126 between Dudley & Wolverhampton again, have to say all this chopping and changing with routes doesn't portray a very good image!
The most likely option is to have every other X8 run short to Dudley, it could also free up Platinums for elsewhere.
Is the X7 the route when introduced, was serving a new section of route not previously served or something?
I take it that route didnt work out then?
Quote from: Westy on April 25, 2019, 11:11:01 AM
Is the X7 the route when introduced, was serving a new section of route not previously served or something?
I take it that route didnt work out then?
WN X7 is basically an express version of the WB 87.
What I can't understand is why the ☓7 stops running so early in the day. Surely if you're going to try a route like this you go all out rather than half-cut sort of thing? Seems to me like it was doomed to fail from the start.
Quote from: MasterPlan on April 25, 2019, 11:33:06 AM
What I can't understand is why the ☓7 stops running so early in the day. Surely if you're going to try a route like this you go all out rather than half-cut sort of thing? Seems to me like it was doomed to fail from the start.
Might have been a bit busier if it was able to serve Summerfield Park as well - busy stop for both 82/87 and 11 from what I've seen when I've been there in the past rather than going right onto Heath Street.
Though I suppose that might mean it would be taken through the traffic it was intended to avoid in the first place.
Any idea when the new X8 timetable will be on NX website or Traveline, and when they'll announce the X7 withdrawal ?
It's a shame really as I'm sure it's picking up slowly but obviously not enough to keep it running. When the new hospital opens I'm sure it will be a different story.
Quote from: TT90 on April 28, 2019, 09:42:13 PM
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It's a shame really as I'm sure it's picking up slowly but obviously not enough to keep it running. When the new hospital opens I'm sure it will be a different story.
Well obviously when the hospital opens a lot of things around there will change, including traffic levels on the roads the X7 uses to make it a bit more express so if anything it would make the route less worthwhile
Just been reading about the Five ways underpass closure from 3rd June, potentially until 2021 ? Some information is on the Metro Alliance and NetworkWM websites.
Guess all the Hagley Road services will all have to have route and timetable changes to reflect the closure and increased traffic using the island.
NWM service changes states:
- X8 increased to every 10 minutes between Wolverhampton and Dudley.
- 126 increased to every 12 minutes between Dudley and Birmingham.
From 02/06/19.
Presumably that will free up a few of the Platinums with the Dudley to Birmingham City Centre section of the X7 going completely? Maybe they'll go to BC and replace the last few B7RLE there then?
Quote from: 2206 on May 08, 2019, 04:03:55 PM
NWM service changes states:
- X8 increased to every 10 minutes between Wolverhampton and Dudley.
- 126 increased to every 12 minutes between Dudley and Birmingham.
From 02/06/19.
Presumably that will free up a few of the Platinums with the Dudley to Birmingham City Centre section of the X7 going completely? Maybe they'll go to BC and replace the last few B7RLE there then?
Where are you finding this info?
Quote from: Sh4318 on May 08, 2019, 06:42:40 PM
Where are you finding this info?
NWM service changes page. With this weeks update.
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/media/2798/bus-service-changes-2019-05-08.pdf
I thought they had stopped producing these, but its still as crap as ever - no mention of the X7 being withdrawn.
Quote from: TT90 on April 29, 2019, 10:08:00 AM
Just been reading about the Five ways underpass closure from 3rd June, potentially until 2021 ? Some information is on the Metro Alliance and NetworkWM websites.
Guess all the Hagley Road services will all have to have route and timetable changes to reflect the closure and increased traffic using the island.
When will information on 23/24/9/126/10/x8 be announced regarding route changes as there is no update on network west Midlands.
Quote from: 2206 on May 08, 2019, 06:47:59 PM
NWM service changes page. With this weeks update.
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/media/2798/bus-service-changes-2019-05-08.pdf
It's not very accurate, has missed out half of the April tender changes!
Separate banners for those
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 08, 2019, 11:51:33 PM
It's not very accurate, has missed out half of the April tender changes!
It hasn't, the April tender changes took place 21st April, that section has been removed from the updated spreadsheet.
Quote from: StourValley98 on April 24, 2019, 11:13:16 PM
it could also free up Platinums for elsewhere.
The 126 used to be Platinum hadn't it? Would there be enough buses to make that Platinum again?
So 10S going to replace 38 then?
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 09, 2019, 03:27:25 PM
The 126 used to be Platinum hadn't it? Would there be enough buses to make that Platinum again?
I'm not sure if they would have enough, but someone who knows the PVRs might be able to correct me.
Quote from: Sayeed on May 09, 2019, 04:12:55 PM
So 10S going to replace 38 then?
Where have you seen that?
Just seen the new X8 and 126 timetables on Traveline West Midlands from June 2nd.
Regarding the X8, Dudley shorts to and from WN in between the Birmingham's and a 10 min freq is maintained between WN and Dudley.
Journey times look the same too ::)
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 09, 2019, 04:13:59 PM
Where have you seen that?
It's not there, just thought it would make sense to use the 38 route instead of using former 647 route and then extend it from Weoley Castle.
Still no mention on NX website, or notices on the buses about the withdrawal of the X7 and changes to the X8 :-\
Will the X8 platinums be re-branded into the new style like the 9 and 87 ?
Quote from: TT90 on May 15, 2019, 09:26:58 AM
Still no mention on NX website, or notices on the buses about the withdrawal of the X7 and changes to the X8 :-\
Will the X8 platinums be re-branded into the new style like the 9 and 87 ?
While it would be nice, I've been looking at the X7/X8 branding, and I could see it easily just being edited with the X7 being removed. Similar thing happened to the Soho Rd branded buses when the 75 was withdrawn
Quote from: Sh4318 on May 17, 2019, 01:16:40 AM
While it would be nice, I've been looking at the X7/X8 branding, and I could see it easily just being edited with the X7 being removed. Similar thing happened to the Soho Rd branded buses when the 75 was withdrawn
It will be completely new
Will be nice to see the new branding applied to the X8 then Tony ;)
I do like the look of what they've done to the 87 and 9 etc..
I guess some of the spare platinums will be used on other WN routes, like the number 1 etc ?
Quote from: TT90 on May 17, 2019, 09:55:19 AM
Will be nice to see the new branding applied to the X8 then Tony ;)
I do like the look of what they've done to the 87 and 9 etc..
I guess some of the spare platinums will be used on other WN routes, like the number 1 etc ?
Or alternatively, several transferred elsewhere as a result of no longer being required?
I suppose in the future, theres a chance of enough new Platties for Acocks Green, to transfer their existing batch, to join the rest at Walsall?
June service changes now showing on the NXWM bus website.
First 3 X7/X8 platinums debranded!
The 7 has now got 2 Wynall dodgers and 2 Merry Hill dodgers.
How many platinums will get the new X8 branding
@Tony ?
Looking forward to seeing these soon :-\
Quote from: Tony on May 17, 2019, 06:18:06 AM
It will be completely new
Will the X51 get rebranding to show Cannock on the side/back?
June 2nd changes now on NXWM website
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-2nd-june-2019
Quote from: Dom on May 17, 2019, 01:32:02 PM
The 7 has now got 2 Wynall dodgers and 2 Merry Hill dodgers.
Wynall??
Surely wouldn't it make sense to terminate and start the journeys at Lye Cross??
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 17, 2019, 08:44:58 PM
Wynall??
Surely wouldn't it make sense to terminate and start the journeys at Lye Cross??
What does his statement even mean?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 17, 2019, 09:12:30 PM
What does his statement even mean?
The 7 service on an evening will have journey's operating from Dudley to Wynall, only every other journey will fo to Wollaston Junction.
The point i was trying to make is that I doubt if many passengers will travel beyond Lye Cross, so why not terminate those journeys there instead of wasting time and money going to Wynall.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 17, 2019, 09:25:22 PM
The 7 service on an evening will have journey's operating from Dudley to Wynall, only every other journey will fo to Wollaston Junction.
The point i was trying to make is that I doubt if many passengers will travel beyond Lye Cross, so why not terminate those journeys there instead of wasting time and money going to Wynall.
Because there would be too much dead time between journeys. We're getting 5 mins at Wynall. Which would've been 12-15 mins at Lye with no lay-by stop to wait at.
Several passengers do travel past Lye. But not enough to justify a half hourly service all the way to Wollaston
Quote from: Dom on May 17, 2019, 11:12:50 PM
Because there would be too much dead time between journeys. We're getting 5 mins at Wynall. Which would've been 12-15 mins at Lye with no lay-by stop to wait at.
Several passengers do travel past Lye. But not enough to justify a half hourly service all the way to Wollaston
Yes
@Dom I guessed after looking at the timetable that is why it had been done.
Since I recently moved, the 7 is my local route and certainly on an evening around Stourbridge it isn't very well patronised. Saying that, coming the other way past Lye, it does seem a bit better patronised, with quite a few people travelling onto Pedmore Fields, then virtually an empty bus from there to Stourbridge.
It's a shame there isn't enough time for the bus to get to Pedmore Fields although even if there were, there is no where for a bus to turn. The only possible alternative would be from Pedmore Fields for it to continue down Walker Avenue, then turn right on Wollescote Road, then left onto Springfield Avenue before normal line of route. This couldn't be done really as it would probably be to confusing for passengers.
Well surely there could be worthwhile making it into a 7A and running it direct from Lye Cross to Stourbridge along the 9 route
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 18, 2019, 12:06:51 AM
Well surely there could be worthwhile making it into a 7A and running it direct from Lye Cross to Stourbridge along the 9 route
That would be another idea!
Have always said in the past, I don't know why they don't get rid of the 298/9 and divert one 7 an hour via the 298/9 route around Springfield Avenue in Lye and Hagley Road Stourbridge. But that's another subject!
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 18, 2019, 12:06:51 AM
Well surely there could be worthwhile making it into a 7A and running it direct from Lye Cross to Stourbridge along the 9 route
Why? The 9 runs frequently along there? If passengers want a service to Stourbridge, the 9 is every 10 mins. From Dudley the 6 is every 10 or so mins.
Personally, I don't believe a '7A' would hold any more value than running to Wynall.
Quote from: Dom on May 19, 2019, 10:59:05 AM
Why? The 9 runs frequently along there? If passengers want a service to Stourbridge, the 9 is every 10 mins. From Dudley the 6 is every 10 or so mins.
Personally, I don't believe a '7A' would hold any more value than running to Wynall.
Frequently? At nights (which I'm suggesting) it is every 20.
Plus terminating at stourbridge is better than terminating at Wynall (at least the drivers have facilities in stourbridge if needed instead of being in the middle of an housing estate and its roughly the same amount of time if buses avoid lye high street).
Oh, I forgot, I'm thinking too logically.
Just noticed NWM updated time tables on Harborne Road for 10 service and are using the old bus-n logo still on timetables in shelter poster. Surely it should be west midlands bus logo as it is the new branding.
Any bus stop flags changed along Coleshill Road yet?
Quote from: Jack D on May 30, 2019, 08:17:10 AM
Any bus stop flags changed along Coleshill Road yet?
why
Quote from: SK68MEV on May 30, 2019, 09:21:31 AM
why
The 55 is being rerouted around the Fox & Goose and will be using Coleshill Road rather than Stechford Road/Stechford Lane.
Is this going to be a long term or permanent change? The notice in the buses say it's because of roadworks, but surely that would only be for a couple of weeks?
Quote from: Gareth on May 30, 2019, 09:56:49 AM
Is this going to be a long term or permanent change? The notice in the buses say it's because of roadworks, but surely that would only be for a couple of weeks?
The signs say the roadworks last till Winter 2020.
The roadworks have been there for a long time now as well.
Previously they were doing utility works for the new housing seemingly and there were temporary traffic lights causing delays.
Currently they are now completely changing the road layout and widening the road and also widening the bridge over the river.
The 55 doesn't serve Station Road, but the roadworks have caused lots of disruption to that route as well as the 11 due to slow moving traffic on surrounding roads.
Quote from: 2206 on May 30, 2019, 10:16:14 AM
The signs say the roadworks last till Winter 2020.
The roadworks have been there for a long time now as well.
Previously they were doing utility works for the new housing seemingly and there were temporary traffic lights causing delays.
Currently they are now completely changing the road layout and widening the road and bridge over the river.
The 55 doesn't serve Station Road, but the roadworks have caused lots of disruption to that route as well as the 11 due to slow moving traffic on surrounding roads.
yeh as you get stuck into traffic and it's standstill for over 30 mins at peak
Drove past this evening and no bus stops changed. This means ventnor avenue getting city centre frequencies like the old days .
55 added to hodge hill coleshill rd bus stops
Quote from: monkeyjoe on May 31, 2019, 06:19:07 PM
55 added to hodge hill coleshill rd bus stops
havent seen yet gonna drive down coleshill road later anyway presuming they have been removed from Stechford lane
Starts Sunday I was on about the bus shelter plates changing
Quote from: monkeyjoe on May 31, 2019, 08:47:22 PM
Starts Sunday I was on about the bus shelter plates changing
I know I was saying that wonder if the number has been removed off the plates on Stechford road and lane
Looks like they've changed the flags, but not the timetables.
The stop outside Aldi at the Fox and Goose still has a timetable for the 55.
Anyone know what the situation was like at Five Ways this morning now the underpass is closed?
Quote from: 2206 on June 02, 2019, 02:50:00 PM
Looks like they've changed the flags, but not the timetables.
The stop outside Aldi at the Fox and Goose still has a timetable for the 55.
A few people got on the 11 earlier complaining to the driver, about there being no notices on the stops, and asking what they've done to the 55. Asking whether the 55 still stops at the Fox and Goose. The driver on the 11 had no idea.
Surely they could have put some notices up at stops, as they've done with previous service changes.
Quote from: 2206 on June 03, 2019, 02:42:51 PM
A few people got on the 11 earlier complaining to the driver, about there being no notices on the stops, and asking what they've done to the 55. Asking whether the 55 still stops at the Fox and Goose. The driver on the 11 had no idea.
Surely they could have put some notices up at stops, as they've done with previous service changes.
seen a 55 on Stechford lane driver must've forgotten
Marketing in general is questionable these days to much reliance on twitter and online, that's fair enough but I guess there is a fair % call it 30% that don't even go online Just saying.
Looks like NX are on a winning streak on tenders. The A12 at AG has been extended. WA are taking the 19 and it looks like WN might have the 50
What about the 99?
Quote from: Jack D on June 04, 2019, 04:51:11 PM
What about the 99?
What about the 99? What's the question
Are NX keeping it and changing it?
Quote from: Jack D on June 04, 2019, 04:55:22 PM
Are NX keeping it and changing it?
Still a few months on the contract
What's the 50 route? For Wolverhampton
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on June 04, 2019, 06:19:13 PM
What's the 50 route? For Wolverhampton
It's a service operated by select between wednesfield and Wolverhampton
Quote from: BH2004 on June 04, 2019, 06:31:12 PM
It's a service operated by select between wednesfield and Wolverhampton
https://bustimes.org/services/50-wolverhampton-wednesfield-via-fallings-park-2
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on June 04, 2019, 06:19:13 PM
What's the 50 route? For Wolverhampton
Wolverhampton to Wednesfield via Fallings Park and Moathouse, currently operated by Select in the interim period after igo's collapse
Quote from: Tony on June 04, 2019, 04:35:20 PM
Looks like NX are on a winning streak on tenders. The A12 at AG has been extended. WA are taking the 19 and it looks like WN might have the 50
9 years or so since the 319 was operated by Nx Monday to Saturdays!
When Midland took over the route in 2010, was it tendered at that point?
Quote from: Nathan on June 04, 2019, 06:39:56 PM
Wolverhampton to Wednesfield via Fallings Park and Moathouse, currently operated by Select in the interim period after igo's collapse
Makes sense, they already run the 71 Cannock - Wednesfield - New Cross - Wolverhampton.
Quote from: Westy on June 04, 2019, 07:00:12 PM
9 years or so since the 319 was operated by Nx Monday to Saturdays!
When Midland took over the route in 2010, was it tendered at that point?
Back in April 2010 I think there was a swap if Midland take over the 319 they'll come off the 329. The 319 was profitable for a good 5-6 years later. In the last 3 years it has become tendered when arriva decided to pull off. The 19 should be rerouted to serve Goscote hospital as there is no bus serving that strect of road direct to Walsall /Bloxwich anyway.
Quote from: PB2938 on June 11, 2019, 09:22:09 AM
Back in April 2010 I think there was a swap if Midland take over the 319 they'll come off the 319. The 319 was profitable for a good 5-6 years later. In the last 3 years it has become tendered when arriva decided to pull off. The 19 should be rerouted to serve Goscote hospital as there is no bus serving that strect of road direct to Walsall /Bloxwich anyway.
Theres practically fresh air on that stretch thesedays, based on the 25.
I know when we've gone to Goscote in the past, mother's had a taxi or the sis in law has taken her!