I catch either 23/34 from Harborne into city every afternoons the stop is rammed with students from uni the 23 pulls in, as it is busy i flag the 24 which is behind who sails on by.
Surely the driver on the 24 should stop if someone flags the bus to stop at the bus stop.
Quote from: Ginger66 on January 25, 2019, 07:25:57 AM
I catch either 23/34 from Harborne into city every afternoons the stop is rammed with students from uni the 23 pulls in, as it is busy i flag the 24 which is behind who sails on by.
Surely the driver on the 24 should stop if someone flags the bus to stop at the bus stop.
Happens constantly wherever you are in the West Midlands.
Quote from: Ginger66 on January 25, 2019, 07:25:57 AM
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Surely the driver on the 24 should stop if someone flags the bus to stop at the bus stop.
Why should they? By going round they can carry on ahead and pick up from other stops further along helping out the other bus, if they both stopped and carried on together then its just going to delay both routes and passengers will get annoyed
Quote from: Kevin on January 25, 2019, 08:26:17 AM
Why should they? By going round they can carry on ahead and pick up from other stops further along helping out the other bus, if they both stopped and carried on together then its just going to delay both routes and passengers will get annoyed
Well said. I do exactly the same in that situation. I'll go round and pick up people further up the road to stop the first bus getting overcrowded
Could always walk back a stop.to get a seat
The stop outside Harborne Academy going towards city, if there was a bus already at the stop, the teachers tried flagging us down, however we used to carry on, otherwise we'd be obstructing the pedestrian crossing. All changed there now though
Quote from: Solo1 on January 25, 2019, 08:54:00 AM
Could always walk back a stop.to get a seat
That depends where people are getting on at and where they are full from, it could be more than one stop, in some cases.
Quote from: John on January 25, 2019, 08:29:39 AM
Well said. I do exactly the same in that situation. I'll go round and pick up people further up the road to stop the first bus getting overcrowded
If there's not likely to be enough capacity on the first bus and there are lots of eople waiting then I think they should stop rather than leaving people waiting for the next because they can't all get on.
It's fine if there's enough capacity on the first bus though.
Quote from: Kevin on January 25, 2019, 08:26:17 AM
Why should they? By going round they can carry on ahead and pick up from other stops further along helping out the other bus, if they both stopped and carried on together then its just going to delay both routes and passengers will get annoyed
It depends I think, you'll annoy passengers if there are lots waiting for it, and a full bus turns up wiith no more capacity, so they don't let anyone else on and leave people behind, while an empty bus drives straight past. Leaving those passengers waiting 20 minutes for the next one.
Then again,in lots of cases the drivers probably have no idea how full the one infront is.
My pet hate is when there are two empty pushchair (which could have been folded since they're empty) meaning I can't get my son on the bus.
Quote from: Steveminor on January 25, 2019, 07:27:20 PM
My pet hate is when there are two empty pushchair (which could have been folded since they're empty) meaning I can't get my son on the bus.
Seen this happen many times and parent ends up seatig a few seats away in main seating area.
Quote from: Steveminor on January 25, 2019, 07:27:20 PM
My pet hate is when there are two empty pushchair (which could have been folded since they're empty) meaning I can't get my son on the bus.
you could always ask them to put it down as it's empty who would they like it if it was the other way round
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 25, 2019, 07:49:36 AM
Happens constantly wherever you are in the West Midlands.
As a driver, this is a pet hate of mine and many other colleagues when someone in another bus just sits behind you letting you do all the work, especially when you're late. Most drivers like to help one another by driving past and trying to help out but you always get one or two who aren't team players.
And it also works the other way too with passengers already on the bus happy to go past the stop when another is already there. I have had verbal abuse in the past from passengers on the bus because I did stop behind another bus. As usual, we bus drivers can never win!
Quote from: Steveminor on January 25, 2019, 07:27:20 PM
My pet hate is when there are two empty pushchair (which could have been folded since they're empty) meaning I can't get my son on the bus.
On that subject, my mind gets boggled whenever a bus pulls up at a stop with a number of waiting passengers, one or two of which may have a buggy with them. The first passengers will get on, and take available seats in the buggy area, and then huff and puff because they have to move to make way for the buggies! Some people are just completely oblivious to what is going on around them! This of course happens when there are numerous seats available elsewhere, but some people just really don't want to take an empty seat next to another fellow human being.
Same applies to those who prefer to stand in the most awkward part of the bus to avoid sitting next to somebody else, and then wonder why they get trampled on by other passengers trying to get on and off.
Quote from: Stu on January 26, 2019, 07:59:40 PM
Same applies to those who prefer to stand in the most awkward part of the bus to avoid sitting next to somebody else, and then wonder why they get trampled on by other passengers trying to get on and off.
Not just there by the doors of the bus, but you get loads who choose to stand on the stairs of the bus as well, making it difficult for passengers to get off. Though as far as I know NX aren't supposed to be carrying standing passengers on the stairs and top deck.
On the other hand though some NX buses on the 11 can be very overcrowded with knowhere else for passengers to go (All of the seats full and rammed with as many passengers as possible) - such as 6111 and 4516 on Thursday at the Swan at 5PM, so there's no more room for anyone else and they have to say they can't let anyone else on.
The one thing that annoys me most personally is when people go to the back of the top deck and start smoking, I find generally the smell it creates atrocious, it annoys me that these people can't go a 10 minute bus journey without smoking. I find it incredibly selfish.
When people sit at the back and place their footwear on the opposite seats in a double decker, especially when they are wet and/or dirty.
When they are seats but passengers still stand up rather than
sit down
Quote from: Solo1 on January 26, 2019, 09:26:27 PM
When they are seats but passengers still stand up rather than
sit down
Then when asked say they're getting off at the next stop, when they actually mean the terminus.
Reminds me of the old Arriva X31 I travelled on once. A passenger refused to sit down even when the driver told him it's illegal to stand on the motorway, a 15 minute stand off then took place until the bloke finally sat down.
I hate when passengers don't press the button for the bell when they are going to get off the bus, the driver isn't a mind reader, then they get childish to the driver when they pass the stop.
Another thing is people hogging bus seats with their shopping or belongings etc, like a few weeks back on the 4, which is always full now after Acocks Green towards Solihull, one elderly lady put her bags on the seat next to her and just left them there, a man boarded and said to the woman: "it's a seat, people want to sit on it". She didn't listen and hogged that seat all the way to Solihull.
I also hate when there's already a bus at the stop and the bus behind decides to just ignore you and drive past.
When a bus is waiting time at a timing point and impatient passengers continually press the bell thinking this will get the bus moving. Frequently see this on Dudley road services by Summerfield park.
Quote from: 37351ml on January 28, 2019, 01:31:16 PM
When a bus is waiting time at a timing point and impatient passengers continually press the bell thinking this will get the bus moving. Frequently see this on Dudley road services by Summerfield park.
I turn the engine off when they do that. Most get the hint then 😂
Quote from: 37351ml on January 28, 2019, 01:31:16 PM
When a bus is waiting time at a timing point and impatient passengers continually press the bell thinking this will get the bus moving. Frequently see this on Dudley road services by Summerfield park.
That annoys me too to be honest, I feel for the driver at that point.
Quote from: 37351ml on January 28, 2019, 01:31:16 PM
When a bus is waiting time at a timing point and impatient passengers continually press the bell thinking this will get the bus moving. Frequently see this on Dudley road services by Summerfield park.
For anyone brave enough to confront someone over this, try helpfully pointing out that the 'Stop' button makes the bus 'stop', so the more they press it, the longer the bus will be 'stopped' for. ;)
Quote from: John on January 28, 2019, 02:33:31 PM
I turn the engine off when they do that. Most get the hint then 😂
Does that make the bell stop working? I recall a while back there was some fella annoying the hell out of everybody on the 11A in Acocks Green; first there was a wait at the Bus Garage stop on Westley Road while the drivers changed over, then a further wait at Acocks Green village because the bus was early. Some bloke who was obviously off his head on drugs, as he kept fidgeting, moving seats and talking to himself, kept banging the Stop button repeatedly, until the driver turned off the engine, then all the saloon lights went off, and the bell stopped sounding.
Passengers putting their feet up on the seats is definitely one thing that annoys me, especially so if like somebody has already mentioned on here, if their shoes are either wet or covered in mud ? ("Wonder if they do that on their furniture at Home" ?). People who take their dog on the Bus and put it up on the seat next to them, is another thing i hate, as the seat then ends up covered in dog hairs, that unfortunately stick to the clothes of the next passengers who happens to sit on that seat ? It's even worse still, if the dog happens to be soaking wet, due to it raining outside ! (Why haven't some people just got the sense to keep their dog on the floor by their feet hey ?).
Passengers who don't say "THANK YOU" to the Driver when they get off is another annoyance, as politeness costs nothing and in a small way, it shows the Driver that their work taking that Passenger from A to B is appreciated !
Passengers who play loud music on the Bus is another pet hate, as it's usually some crap that involves a load of rapping and a dreadful tune, that no-doubt guarantees to give you a bad headache afterwards ???lol. I heard one girl on her Mobile Phone recently, who was having a good old argument with someone on the other end of the phone, (shouting at the top of her voice she was !), complaining because they couldn't get her the drugs that she wanted when she wanted them ??? She was sitting not too far behind me upstairs when this happened, but from all the noise and fowl language coming out of her mouth, the Passengers sitting downstairs must have all clearly heard her as well that day !!!lol.
If some crack head happens to be sitting at the back of the Bus smoking away and blowing all the smoke forward in my direction, i just open the window next to me and try and freeze the bugger, especially if it's on a really cold day, when obviously you'd normally keep all the windows shut ! (Would rather be cold, than have to breath in anything that any crack head is smoking ?lol).
Regarding an overcrowded Bus, i've never really encountered that problem very often on my local 16 / 16A route here in Coventry and don't ever recall having to stand up on a Bus coming home from Town ? The only time really where i've ever had to stand on a Bus, is when i've caught it from outside Coventry Station into Town, as some seats do end up with shopping bags / luggage on them and i just can't be bothered to ask the Passenger to move it, as it's only 5 minutes of standing for me anyway into Cov City Centre ! I remember on one occasion many years ago now, getting on a Leyland Lynx outside Coventry Station and it was just so overcrowded with standing passengers, that i thought "SOD THIS" and so i just climbed up into its luggage rack (directly behind the Drivers Cab !) and with my backside on the window ledge, i sat up in that luggage rack until i got off the Bus down in Pool Meadow !!!lol.