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Title: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on April 06, 2012, 06:52:49 PM
Was WA's enviro400's ment for the 51 route as most there buses are now branded for that route ??.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on April 06, 2012, 06:53:57 PM
Yes, majorty for the 51 with the last few (highest numbered one's) for the 935.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 08, 2012, 08:07:20 PM
To My Knowledge

4857-4868 are branded for the 51. all branded quite quickey this week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on April 09, 2012, 10:35:41 AM
Looking through Tony's Pics most of WA'S Enviro400's are branded for the 51 except 4870 - 4879 some of them are used on the 935/A/E the odd 1 or 2 are placed on the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 20, 2013, 06:48:37 PM
Whats left of the Walsall allocation to go into red & white?

Have all of the Walsall Scanias now been relabeled with the proper fleetname?

(Can we keep this for Walsall stuff, seeing theres existing threads for West Brom & Pensnett?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 20, 2013, 06:53:45 PM
Yes, all OmniLinks now have the proper NXWM logos.


Still in TWM livery at Walsall are -

1786
4125, 4126, 4127, 4129, 4130, 4131, 4132, 4133, 4134, 4135, 4137, 4305, 4306, 4307, 4308, 4309, 4329, 4331, 4332
4733, 1434, 4735, 4736

I have more than likely have forgot one or 2!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylan4579 on June 20, 2013, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: John on June 20, 2013, 06:53:45 PM
Yes, all OmniLinks now have the proper NXWM logos.


Still in TWM livery at Walsall are -

1786
4125, 4126, 4127, 4129, 4130, 4131, 4132, 4133, 4134, 4135, 4137, 4305, 4306, 4307, 4308, 4309, 4329, 4331, 4332
4733, 1434, 4735, 4736

I have more than likely have forgot one or 2!
you missed 1762
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 20, 2013, 07:06:58 PM
1762 is in NXWM livery!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:09:42 PM
Tridents need to focus on repainting
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 20, 2013, 07:11:17 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:09:42 PM
Tridents need to focus on repainting

Are they starting on 4125-34 and 4136/7 for repaint now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
Only 4138 done recently

Also from 1 September 2013 Walsall is to
Operate service 2 Cannock evenings and Sundays

It will follow 302 route to Lower farm exit via Stafford road then continue as 2A to Cannock

And service 33 Walsall-Brownhills
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 20, 2013, 07:30:14 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
Only 4138 done recently

Also from 1 September 2013 Walsall is to
Operate service 2 Cannock evenings and Sundays

It will follow 302 route to Lower farm exit via Stafford road then continue as 2A to Cannock

And service 33 Walsall-Brownhills

That reads that Stafford Road will lose its evening & Sunday service.

Is that correct?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:44:38 PM
2 bus stops missed out on Stafford road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 20, 2013, 08:05:08 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
Only 4138 done recently

Also from 1 September 2013 Walsall is to
Operate service 2 Cannock evenings and Sundays

It will follow 302 route to Lower farm exit via Stafford road then continue as 2A to Cannock

And service 33 Walsall-Brownhills

Would these be operated by B7RLE's?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 08:44:45 PM
2A maybe

Not sure about 33 low bridge clayhanger

Walsall B7RLE height 11.4

We"ll have to wait and see
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on June 20, 2013, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
Only 4138 done recently

Also from 1 September 2013 Walsall is to
Operate service 2 Cannock evenings and Sundays

It will follow 302 route to Lower farm exit via Stafford road then continue as 2A to Cannock

And service 33 Walsall-Brownhills

So would I be correct in saying this is going to be replacing at least some of the 302 evening & Sunday journeys. If so, that would explain why NXWM were perhaps able to win the contract.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 20, 2013, 08:55:02 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 08:44:45 PM
2A maybe

Not sure about 33 low bridge clayhanger

Walsall B7RLE height 11.4

We"ll have to wait and see

Metrobuses 'nearly' fit under that bridge, remember 2886, so an eclipse will fit easily
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 08:56:51 PM
I think NXWM are putting in for contracts to reduce there own costs. As before everything was leaving

EG 326 361

At the moment 301/302 inter work evenings
3 buses

With possible extension to Cannock might bring it up to 5 but we"ll have to wait and see

Another example 935A

Taken over from diamond 56A service 934 is reduced to hourly evenings with service 935A every 30
Mins Kingstanding-Birmingham

Another example 311-313

Diamond ran 313E evenings/Sundays Wednesbury-Dudley

NXWM put in for contract October 2012

Then withdrawing 311A journeys.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: bwsau cymru on June 20, 2013, 10:03:03 PM
good to see nx winning contracts from arriva, at least the are keeping them at bay! I hope that nx do bid for more as it keeps them competitive on non commercial stuff. I know they are gigantic is size buts its good to see they not just take there size dominance for granted! But I will say isn't it a little unnecessary to have a bus as big as a b7 working 2 service? b6 I think would be more suited like in the old 351 days? I have been thinking for a while that Walsall could do with some enviro200 would be ideal for routes like 7 and 8 that used to have b6's anyway and even 77 too!
I would also imagine bob must be happy nxwm are coming back to Cannock more
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 20, 2013, 10:07:00 PM
Quote from: dannygill on June 20, 2013, 10:03:03 PM
good to see nx winning contracts from arriva, at least the are keeping them at bay! I hope that nx do bid for more as it keeps them competitive on non commercial stuff. I know they are gigantic is size buts its good to see they not just take there size dominance for granted! But I will say isn't it a little unnecessary to have a bus as big as a b7 working 2 service? b6 I think would be more suited like in the old 351 days? I have been thinking for a while that Walsall could do with some enviro200 would be ideal for routes like 7 and 8 that used to have b6's anyway and even 77 too!
I would also imagine bob must be happy nxwm are coming back to Cannock more

You're having a laugh arn't you. Enviro 200s on the 77. Double decks only just cope on some journeys
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 20, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
E200's on the 8 which interworks with the 89. No chance. Usually tridents fill up on the 8/89 so why put E200's on there?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 20, 2013, 11:26:14 PM
Quote from: notepanel on June 20, 2013, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
Only 4138 done recently

Also from 1 September 2013 Walsall is to
Operate service 2 Cannock evenings and Sundays

It will follow 302 route to Lower farm exit via Stafford road then continue as 2A to Cannock

And service 33 Walsall-Brownhills

So would I be correct in saying this is going to be replacing at least some of the 302 evening & Sunday journeys. If so, that would explain why NXWM were perhaps able to win the contract.

Why number it 2A?

There is already a 2A during the daytime operating a different route.

If anything, the peaks & daytime journeys should have been numbered 2A & 2B, leaving the evening & Sunday service as 2.

(It has been known for the evening & Sunday service to take the wrong route once in a blue moon!)

Another couple of things, maybe the 2 evening & Sundays ought to move into the Walsall Bus Station rather than staying at Hatherton Road & will the 302 return fare be continued on the NX 2 journeys, despite being partly subsidised.

(It'll be interesting to see the Network WM leaflet, whether the 1/2/301 & 302 are combined on one leaflet or not? They ought to be !)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4569 on June 21, 2013, 12:45:20 AM
Well thatl be something extra one sunday afternoon, maybe it could give the B6s a bit of extra use if B7RLEs are a bit much capacity wise not height wise

The 7 couldnt cope with E200s as with routes already mentioned

Only TWM liveried buses at Walsall are 1786 and all Tridents except 4128 4136 4138 and 4330, those four are in various shades of red

1434 is in NXWM livery
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 21, 2013, 07:25:33 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 21, 2013, 12:45:20 AM
Well thatl be something extra one sunday afternoon, maybe it could give the B6s a bit of extra use if B7RLEs are a bit much capacity wise not height wise

The 7 couldnt cope with E200s as with routes already mentioned

Only TWM liveried buses at Walsall are 1786 and all Tridents except 4128 4136 4138 and 4330, those four are in various shades of red

1434 is in NXWM livery

And 4733-6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on June 21, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
Quote from: Westy on June 20, 2013, 11:26:14 PM
Quote from: notepanel on June 20, 2013, 08:45:15 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 20, 2013, 07:16:53 PM
Only 4138 done recently

Also from 1 September 2013 Walsall is to
Operate service 2 Cannock evenings and Sundays

It will follow 302 route to Lower farm exit via Stafford road then continue as 2A to Cannock

And service 33 Walsall-Brownhills

So would I be correct in saying this is going to be replacing at least some of the 302 evening & Sunday journeys. If so, that would explain why NXWM were perhaps able to win the contract.

Why number it 2A?

There is already a 2A during the daytime operating a different route.

If anything, the peaks & daytime journeys should have been numbered 2A & 2B, leaving the evening & Sunday service as 2.

(It has been known for the evening & Sunday service to take the wrong route once in a blue moon!)

Another couple of things, maybe the 2 evening & Sundays ought to move into the Walsall Bus Station rather than staying at Hatherton Road & will the 302 return fare be continued on the NX 2 journeys, despite being partly subsidised.

(It'll be interesting to see the Network WM leaflet, whether the 1/2/301 & 302 are combined on one leaflet or not? They ought to be !)

I notice that it's also mentioned that Walsall are starting the 33. Is this the evening/Sunday contract that was only won a couple of months back by Diamond (and I believe is a Centro rather than South Staffs tender) or a commercial registration by NXWM?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 21, 2013, 11:44:31 AM
I think it is the other end of the route, Brownhills to Rugeley
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on June 21, 2013, 03:10:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2013, 11:44:31 AM
I think it is the other end of the route, Brownhills to Rugeley

That would make more sense. Again, it can utilise vehicles quite well for NXWM.

Assuming there are no low bridges on that part of the route and that the timetable will remain the same, the first trip from Rugeley could be operated by a bus coming off the Cannock bound X51, with the first round trip from Brownhills perhaps being operated by bus W7/01 (which finishes at 1847 at Castlefort). A relief bus & driver commencing at the depot can then takeover the remainder of the journeys at 2005 & 2105 from Brownhills.

Obviously these are just the routes known from Walsall depot - does anybody know if any further tenders have been won, perhaps being operated by Wolverhampton?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 28, 2013, 06:28:23 PM
4736 is on the 997 today. Strange to see a 'Toothpaste' on there  :)

I was about 20 seconds too late to get a pic. I was driving out of my road, onto Aldridge Road to go to work, and it was in front of me. If I was a bit earlier, I would have been able to overtake it and get a pic, and not be late for work.  >:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 28, 2013, 09:20:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on June 21, 2013, 12:45:20 AM
Well thatl be something extra one sunday afternoon, maybe it could give the B6s a bit of extra use if B7RLEs are a bit much capacity wise not height wise

The 7 couldnt cope with E200s as with routes already mentioned

Only TWM liveried buses at Walsall are 1786 and all Tridents except 4128 4136 4138 and 4330, those four are in various shades of red

1434 is in NXWM livery


Walsall 7 ran for many years with Volvo B6. Apart from school journeys it will be able to Cope with enviro 200. And it'll be easier to driver around broad meadow and castle fort.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4569 on July 25, 2013, 07:25:06 PM
4331 broke down in bloxwich about an hour ago, all the coolant dropped out so nice big streak behind it

Hello to the driver Martin and the other nice chap driving 1434 at the moment if theyre forum members
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 09:07:41 PM
I'm sure it was posted on the forum that 4361 has transferred to WA. Can anyone confirm this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 27, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 09:07:41 PM
I'm sure it was posted on the forum that 4361 has transferred to WA. Can anyone confirm this?

I'm sure it was seen on the 51. But it may have been one of the buses floating around with the tunnel closures
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
Quote from: John on July 27, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 09:07:41 PM
I'm sure it was posted on the forum that 4361 has transferred to WA. Can anyone confirm this?

I'm sure it was seen on the 51. But it may have been one of the buses floating around with the tunnel closures

But i think it was rob who said they had seen it on the 40 days before so must be at WA. Area any more tridents transferring to Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on July 27, 2013, 09:17:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 09:14:37 PM
Quote from: John on July 27, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 27, 2013, 09:07:41 PM
I'm sure it was posted on the forum that 4361 has transferred to WA. Can anyone confirm this?

I'm sure it was seen on the 51. But it may have been one of the buses floating around with the tunnel closures

But i think it was rob who said they had seen it on the 40 days before so must be at WA. Area any more tridents transferring to Walsall?

I can't see YW sending Tridents to WA when they are receiving extra Tridents from BC, if WA are due to get any extra Tridents they would go direct from BC
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 37351ml on July 29, 2013, 07:17:41 PM
4735 noted being towed ex city at 19.15 back to wa by a mansfield tow truck. John
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 07:20:06 PM
Quote from: 37351ml on July 29, 2013, 07:17:41 PM
4735 noted being towed ex city at 19.15 back to wa by a mansfield tow truck. John

Any idea which route it was working?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on July 29, 2013, 09:25:56 PM
It appears there has been a very serious accident involving an X51 this evening on the Birmingham Road in Walsall.

A car driver has died and 26 people on the bus were checked over by paramedics, with 8 then going on to hospital.

Obviously my thoughts go to the deceased and anyone involved with or injured in this incident.

http://officialwmas.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 29, 2013, 09:35:43 PM
Quote from: notepanel on July 29, 2013, 09:25:56 PM
It appears there has been a very serious accident involving an X51 this evening on the Birmingham Road in Walsall.

A car driver has died and 26 people on the bus were checked over by paramedics, with 8 then going on to hospital.

Obviously my thoughts go to the deceased and anyone involved with or injured in this incident.

http://officialwmas.wordpress.com/


I am very sorry to hear that somebody has lost their life and feel for the people injured on the bus aswell.

I know it doesn't really matter but does anyone know which bus was involved?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on July 29, 2013, 09:43:53 PM
Darn, this along with 4218, the refurb guys are going to be busy. Thoughts go out to the deceased.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 29, 2013, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 29, 2013, 09:43:53 PM
Darn, this along with 4218, the refurb guys are going to be busy. Thoughts go out to the deceased.

Yes indeed, thoughts to the deceased family & friends.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on July 29, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
My Thoughts are with Family & Friends of the Driver and those who were injured
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on July 29, 2013, 10:14:36 PM
Its now on YamYam news. No doubt it'll be on the beeb by midnight.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on July 29, 2013, 10:26:55 PM
yamyam news?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2013, 10:27:45 PM
Quote from: mranon on July 29, 2013, 10:26:55 PM
yamyam news?

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2013/07/29/man-killed-after-walsall-crash/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 29, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
S*** man I've been in some near misses around that junction when I used to go to school in Walsall. Definitely thoughts going out, will have to wait and see what actually happened
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 30, 2013, 08:36:39 AM
Quote from: Kevin on July 29, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
S*** man I've been in some near misses around that junction when I used to go to school in Walsall. Definitely thoughts going out, will have to wait and see what actually happened

There are now photos on 'Yam-Yam news' http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2013/07/30/man-killed-after-walsall-crash/

The bus looks perfectly positioned on the road and it was not at the junction. Looks like either 4125 or 4129
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on July 30, 2013, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2013, 08:36:39 AM
Quote from: Kevin on July 29, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
S*** man I've been in some near misses around that junction when I used to go to school in Walsall. Definitely thoughts going out, will have to wait and see what actually happened

There are now photos on 'Yam-Yam news' http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2013/07/30/man-killed-after-walsall-crash/

The bus looks perfectly positioned on the road and it was not at the junction. Looks like either 4125 or 4129

I'd say that's 4125
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: vinh1000 on July 30, 2013, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 30, 2013, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2013, 08:36:39 AM
Quote from: Kevin on July 29, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
S*** man I've been in some near misses around that junction when I used to go to school in Walsall. Definitely thoughts going out, will have to wait and see what actually happened

There are now photos on 'Yam-Yam news' http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2013/07/30/man-killed-after-walsall-crash/

The bus looks perfectly positioned on the road and it was not at the junction. Looks like either 4125 or 4129

I'd say that's 4125
Same here
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: richie on July 30, 2013, 09:46:34 AM
Quote from: vinh1000 on July 30, 2013, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on July 30, 2013, 09:29:53 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2013, 08:36:39 AM
Quote from: Kevin on July 29, 2013, 10:33:40 PM
S*** man I've been in some near misses around that junction when I used to go to school in Walsall. Definitely thoughts going out, will have to wait and see what actually happened

There are now photos on 'Yam-Yam news' http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2013/07/30/man-killed-after-walsall-crash/

The bus looks perfectly positioned on the road and it was not at the junction. Looks like either 4125 or 4129

I'd say that's 4125
Same here

Looks like 4129 from the rear photo at the bottom of the article
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 30, 2013, 02:47:45 PM
I would agree it is 4129 because 4125 has not got that bit of red stripe at the back (to the right of the Police Woman on the bottom picture)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on July 30, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
It is 4129 in Walsall Garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 07:09:29 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on July 30, 2013, 03:26:58 PM
It is 4129 in Walsall Garage

Thought it was. How long will it be out of action?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on July 30, 2013, 07:37:56 PM
2/3 months

Hopefully get repaint/refurb
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 30, 2013, 07:51:50 PM
Will it be repaired??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 08:11:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 30, 2013, 07:51:50 PM
Will it be repaired??

No doubt it will be with it also gaining a well deserved repaint as it was looking a bit scruffy. What is it with buses involved in collisions. 4129 on the X51 now 5416 today in Wolverhampton.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Andrew1991 on July 30, 2013, 08:28:54 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 08:11:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 30, 2013, 07:51:50 PM
Will it be repaired??

No doubt it will be with it also gaining a well deserved repaint as it was looking a bit scruffy. What is it with buses involved in collisions. 4129 on the X51 now 5416 today in Wolverhampton.

And 1 in brierley hill if u read the bottom of the article
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 30, 2013, 08:28:54 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 08:11:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 30, 2013, 07:51:50 PM
Will it be repaired??

No doubt it will be with it also gaining a well deserved repaint as it was looking a bit scruffy. What is it with buses involved in collisions. 4129 on the X51 now 5416 today in Wolverhampton.

And 1 in brierley hill if u read the bottom of the article

Wonder if it was a PE bus or a WN bus (255)?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Andrew1991 on July 30, 2013, 08:47:55 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: Andrew on July 30, 2013, 08:28:54 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 08:11:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 30, 2013, 07:51:50 PM
Will it be repaired??

No doubt it will be with it also gaining a well deserved repaint as it was looking a bit scruffy. What is it with buses involved in collisions. 4129 on the X51 now 5416 today in Wolverhampton.

And 1 in brierley hill if u read the bottom of the article

Wonder if it was a PE bus or a WN bus (255)?

Probably a PE bus as there was a trident put onto the 222
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 30, 2013, 08:49:42 PM
Plus 2092 on there today. Maybe a Branded 222 E200 involved? (824 on 140/241 today)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 01, 2013, 06:31:41 AM
something interesting I noticed yesterday morning, the one journey on the X51 in the morning that runs city - Scott arms only at 07:50, according to the running board it then goes to the garage for a while then onto the 41. Thought the whole reason for it terminating at Scott arms was so it could do a short journey into the city in the rush hour. Or is it just a summer timetable thing?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on August 01, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 01, 2013, 06:31:41 AM
something interesting I noticed yesterday morning, the one journey on the X51 in the morning that runs city - Scott arms only at 07:50, according to the running board it then goes to the garage for a while then onto the 41. Thought the whole reason for it terminating at Scott arms was so it could do a short journey into the city in the rush hour. Or is it just a summer timetable thing?

Just a summer thing. Normally, it runs dead from Scott Arms to Gillity Village to operate a 705 school service before returning to garage. The term-time 41 board also begins with that bus operating another of the 705 school services in the morning, before running dead to Walsall and continuing on the 40/41 until the end of the day. To reduce PVR during the summer, the two buses have been merged onto one board.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 01, 2013, 06:12:03 PM
Quote from: notepanel on August 01, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 01, 2013, 06:31:41 AM
something interesting I noticed yesterday morning, the one journey on the X51 in the morning that runs city - Scott arms only at 07:50, according to the running board it then goes to the garage for a while then onto the 41. Thought the whole reason for it terminating at Scott arms was so it could do a short journey into the city in the rush hour. Or is it just a summer timetable thing?

Just a summer thing. Normally, it runs dead from Scott Arms to Gillity Village to operate a 705 school service before returning to garage. The term-time 41 board also begins with that bus operating another of the 705 school services in the morning, before running dead to Walsall and continuing on the 40/41 until the end of the day. To reduce PVR during the summer, the two buses have been merged onto one board.

W41-07

Written down to be Enviro

First Journey

41 0910 from Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 01, 2013, 06:14:16 PM
547 servere front end damage involved in RTC on 31 July 2013 whilst operating 336

At Manor Hospital/Pleck Road Lights

Lets see wheather rebuilt or not


Leaving only 3 in Service Volvo B6

669 673 677

244 Tempory off Road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 01, 2013, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 01, 2013, 06:14:16 PM
547 servere front end damage involved in RTC on 31 July 2013 whilst operating 336

At Manor Hospital/Pleck Road Lights

Lets see wheather rebuilt or not

I would have thought it be more likely to be swapped with one recently withdrawn from PE i.e. 502, 510 or 544?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wmacb13 on August 01, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
There is possibly another accident on the X51 this evening.

An articulated lorry and 4125 are at the scene on Birmingham Road close to the junction of Wellington Road (near 'The Bell').
Traffic being diverted down Wellington Road, so could not see if there was any damage.

Alan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4569 on August 01, 2013, 07:39:54 PM
I had 547 on the 6 tuesday night
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 01, 2013, 07:51:31 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on August 01, 2013, 07:39:54 PM
I had 547 on the 6 tuesday night

It Was wednesday 31July 2013

Accident with 547
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4569 on August 01, 2013, 07:56:04 PM
No i know i just mean its another bus that ive been on very shortly before its service life ends, just abit of an odd one, best place to have a crash outside a hospital but joking aside i hope all are safe and well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: NXWM Spectra on August 02, 2013, 08:38:10 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 01, 2013, 06:12:03 PM
Quote from: notepanel on August 01, 2013, 02:04:15 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 01, 2013, 06:31:41 AM
something interesting I noticed yesterday morning, the one journey on the X51 in the morning that runs city - Scott arms only at 07:50, according to the running board it then goes to the garage for a while then onto the 41. Thought the whole reason for it terminating at Scott arms was so it could do a short journey into the city in the rush hour. Or is it just a summer timetable thing?

Just a summer thing. Normally, it runs dead from Scott Arms to Gillity Village to operate a 705 school service before returning to garage. The term-time 41 board also begins with that bus operating another of the 705 school services in the morning, before running dead to Walsall and continuing on the 40/41 until the end of the day. To reduce PVR during the summer, the two buses have been merged onto one board.

W41-07

Written down to be Enviro

First Journey

41 0910 from Walsall


So Enviro400 on the 40/41 are not unusual.
At least until normal timetables are back.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: FireballXL5 on August 02, 2013, 01:14:09 PM
547 came in to Carlyle Bus & Coach yesterday afternoon for repair and 4129 has just arrived.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 02, 2013, 01:15:37 PM
Quote from: FireballXL5 on August 02, 2013, 01:14:09 PM
547 came in to Carlyle Bus & Coach yesterday afternoon for repair and 4129 has just arrived.

Surprised 547 is being repaired
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 02, 2013, 01:30:28 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 02, 2013, 01:15:37 PM
Quote from: FireballXL5 on August 02, 2013, 01:14:09 PM
547 came in to Carlyle Bus & Coach yesterday afternoon for repair and 4129 has just arrived.

Surprised 547 is being repaired

Well WA need their B6's for the 335/6 so unless 502/10 or 544 came out of retirement then 547 needsto be back on the road as soon as possible
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 02, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
Would have thought it would have been cheaper to put one of the ex PE B6s back into service than repair 547.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 02, 2013, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 02, 2013, 02:58:11 PM
Would have thought it would have been cheaper to put one of the ex PE B6s back into service than repair 547.

Stu,
That's exactly what I thought as 502, 510 & 544 have only very recently been withdrawn, the only thing that I can think of is that whatever 547 hit was at fault & their insurers will only pay for either writing off 547 or repairing it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 02, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: wmacb13 on August 01, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
There is possibly another accident on the X51 this evening.

An articulated lorry and 4125 are at the scene on Birmingham Road close to the junction of Wellington Road (near 'The Bell').
Traffic being diverted down Wellington Road, so could not see if there was any damage.

Alan

4125 in service today so certainly not damaged
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Andrew1991 on August 02, 2013, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 02, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: wmacb13 on August 01, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
There is possibly another accident on the X51 this evening.

An articulated lorry and 4125 are at the scene on Birmingham Road close to the junction of Wellington Road (near ‘The Bell’).
Traffic being diverted down Wellington Road, so could not see if there was any damage.

Alan

4125 in service today so certainly not damaged

it was 2 cars according to this http://www.expressandstar.com/news/emergency-services/2013/08/02/two-people-hurt-as-cars-in-walsall-collision/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 02, 2013, 06:11:17 PM
Quote from: FireballXL5 on August 02, 2013, 01:14:09 PM
547 came in to Carlyle Bus & Coach yesterday afternoon for repair and 4129 has just arrived.

With all the repair work being sent to Carlyle Bus & Coach of late, it sounds as though it would be in NX's interests to acquire the business and have it as an internal repair shop, whilst still doing work for outside operators. Similar to what Wilts & Dorset did with the Hants & Dorset trim shop
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 6013 on August 02, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 02, 2013, 03:51:33 PM
Quote from: wmacb13 on August 01, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
There is possibly another accident on the X51 this evening.

An articulated lorry and 4125 are at the scene on Birmingham Road close to the junction of Wellington Road (near 'The Bell').
Traffic being diverted down Wellington Road, so could not see if there was any damage.

Alan

4125 in service today so certainly not damaged
4129 has large damage in front! due to crash the car and on the X51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 37351ml on August 03, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
4878 51 towards city at 00.10 at scott arms. 23.27 ex walsall running late? John
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 03, 2013, 12:20:08 AM
Quote from: 37351ml on August 03, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
4878 51 towards city at 00.10 at scott arms. 23.27 ex walsall running late? John
Is this got new 934/5/6 branding?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 03, 2013, 07:23:40 AM
Quote from: 37351ml on August 03, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
4878 51 towards city at 00.10 at scott arms. 23.27 ex walsall running late? John

Can`t do 51 in 35 Mins.

Always Busy 46 stops.

Needs 42 mins journeys time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 04, 2013, 09:56:07 AM
regarding the new 94/5/6/ branding

is it going to be applied to just the ex 935 branded buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4569 on August 04, 2013, 10:01:23 AM
I was expecting the branded buses to be 4880 - 84 given the lack of front fleetnames but maybe it will be 4876 - 79
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 04, 2013, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 09:56:07 AM
regarding the new 94/5/6/ branding

is it going to be applied to just the ex 935 branded buses

I would think 4880-4 might get it as they have no front or rear logos were the new branding is applied. I could also see a few more 487*s gaining it, say 4874 and 4875 as well as the ex-935 branded 4876/4879

There are now a lot more buses on these routes rather than just the 4 that were on the 935 before, sol it would make sense for a few more to be branded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 04, 2013, 10:16:29 AM
Quote from: John on August 04, 2013, 10:02:28 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 09:56:07 AM
regarding the new 94/5/6/ branding

is it going to be applied to just the ex 935 branded buses

I would think 4880-4 might get it as they have no front or rear logos were the new branding is applied. I could also see a few more 487*s gaining it, say 4874 and 4875 as well as the ex-935 branded 4876/4879

There are now a lot more buses on these routes rather than just the 4 that were on the 935 before, sol it would make sense for a few more to be branded

why wasn't the 997 included in the branding ?. Just wondering
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 04, 2013, 10:20:09 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 10:16:29 AM
why wasn't the 997 included in the branding ?. Just wondering

That may be because the 997 already has the branded Enviros, and they have leather seats, and the 934/5/6 just uses Enviros with normal seats. I would like to see new 997 branding though, been my local route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 04, 2013, 10:30:53 AM
Quote from: John on August 04, 2013, 10:20:09 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 04, 2013, 10:16:29 AM
why wasn't the 997 included in the branding ?. Just wondering

That may be because the 997 already has the branded Enviros, and they have leather seats, and the 934/5/6 just uses Enviros with normal seats. I would like to see new 997 branding though, been my local route

I forgot about the round circle 997 on the side, apologies. I Think if the 997 revived a new branding it would turn out like the 33/51/529/87 branding ?.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 04, 2013, 10:42:59 AM
Yes, all the 'new' brandings are being done in the same style.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 04, 2013, 11:33:21 AM
If they did a generic 'City to Perry Barr - Every few mins, 7 days a week' branding & applied it to the group of buses serving 51, 934,935,936 & 997, it wouldn't be as noticeable, when they jump routes, except if any of the buses went onto the X51, which doesn't serve Perry Barr technically.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 04, 2013, 02:46:56 PM
There's a lot of 51/935 running boards interwork inch so not too many buses can be branded.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 04, 2013, 03:55:06 PM
On a Sunday, which 934, 935A journeys go onto the 51 in the evening ?.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 04, 2013, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 04, 2013, 11:33:21 AM
except if any of the buses went onto the X51, which doesn't serve Perry Barr technically.

Technically it does now, the stop by the Alexander Stadium is closer to the historical centre of Perry Barr (st johns church) than Ome Stop..... technically... (being pedantic, sorry)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 07, 2013, 10:51:02 AM
Copied from the WB garage thread, so it doesn't end up clogging it up with unrelated posts...

Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 05, 2013, 09:16:35 PM
Quote from: Ash on August 05, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
I wonder in time if the 4 will ever be upgraded to double decker operation

The reason the 4/H/M don't get deckers is something about the route back to garage has a low bridge or something if i correctly read on here?

This has been mentioned before and if I'm honest (and if it's true) i think it's a pathetic excuse. The buses are generally quite full every time i see them (apart from last Saturday to Merry Hill, which was weird) and could do with deckers, and nowhere on the route is stopping it. But because of a bridge between the garage and the start of the route, when there's a perfectly good alternative with no bridges, the service can only use single deckers? Even if there was an incident before, still sounds stupid.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on August 07, 2013, 11:12:49 AM
Quote from: Kevin on August 07, 2013, 10:51:02 AM
Copied from the WB garage thread, so it doesn't end up clogging it up with unrelated posts...

Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 05, 2013, 09:16:35 PM
Quote from: Ash on August 05, 2013, 08:35:04 PM
I wonder in time if the 4 will ever be upgraded to double decker operation

The reason the 4/H/M don't get deckers is something about the route back to garage has a low bridge or something if i correctly read on here?

This has been mentioned before and if I'm honest (and if it's true) i think it's a pathetic excuse. The buses are generally quite full every time i see them (apart from last Saturday to Merry Hill, which was weird) and could do with deckers, and nowhere on the route is stopping it. But because of a bridge between the garage and the start of the route, when there's a perfectly good alternative with no bridges, the service can only use single deckers? Even if there was an incident before, still sounds stupid.

It probably is true to an extent that Walsall don't want to increase the risk of a collision by sending double decks to Bradford Place. That said, the official route printed on running boards to get back to depot is via the ASDA, not along Bridgeman Street and I believe if they wanted to put double decks on permanently they would just have a push about using the correct route back to garage. On occasions before double decks have ventured into Bradford Place (and I'm sure at one point or other were probably the main allocation of some routes), in addition there is no bridge that would have restricted WB using double decks permanently. 

I guess the main reason for it not being converted is that it would require 20 fairly new double deck vehicles, and on an overall six minute frequency is that sort of capacity increase needed on the route?



Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ash on August 07, 2013, 12:34:50 PM
If 4/4H/4M was to be upgraded to double decker operation the frequency would probably be decreased to every 8/10 minutes with diamond at every 6 minutes it will allow more double buses to be on route compared to NXWM and the 4 service is usually the first bus at the stop gets the passengers so NXWM would lose out. Often though the 4 service is clogged up with 2/3 omnilinks stuck together. The same could be said with the 301 and even services like the 37 which people mentioned it was due to vandalism when actually blue diamond has a high frequency using the darts at the time so matched there service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4569 on August 07, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
I have put this out there in the past, why cant the 4/4H/4M have deckers, nobodys ever said if it could or couldnt happen. Would ease the overcrowding and bunching issues and could possibly get a few new passengers using the bus,
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on August 07, 2013, 08:08:06 PM
Why cant deckers run from Bradford place?  The 404 was always metrobus/fleetline years ago as was the wolverhampton via stowlawn route!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 07, 2013, 08:24:26 PM
Is there any deckers at WA to be used, without taking them off other routes I.e 77, 6 etc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2013, 08:24:26 PM
Is there any deckers at WA to be used, without taking them off other routes I.e 77, 6 etc

Routes like the 10/A/40/1/69/70/A have spare deckers like the leather seated E400's so at least on sundays they could be used?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 07, 2013, 09:30:24 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2013, 08:24:26 PM
Is there any deckers at WA to be used, without taking them off other routes I.e 77, 6 etc

Routes like the 10/A/40/1/69/70/A have spare deckers like the leather seated E400's so at least on sundays they could be used?

Wouldn't get into Halesowen then :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 07, 2013, 09:36:19 PM
I suppose a few could due a few running boards on the 4/4H/4M at Peak times.

Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 07, 2013, 09:30:24 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2013, 08:24:26 PM
Is there any deckers at WA to be used, without taking them off other routes I.e 77, 6 etc

Routes like the 10/A/40/1/69/70/A have spare deckers like the leather seated E400's so at least on sundays they could be used?

Wouldn't get into Halesowen then :(

you have the 4M on  a sunday which goes to Merry Hill
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 07, 2013, 09:30:24 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:27:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2013, 08:24:26 PM
Is there any deckers at WA to be used, without taking them off other routes I.e 77, 6 etc

Routes like the 10/A/40/1/69/70/A have spare deckers like the leather seated E400's so at least on sundays they could be used?

Wouldn't get into Halesowen then :(

You never know. 4869 has appeared on the 4/H/M
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 07, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
You never know. 4869 has appeared on the 4/H/M

When was that Nathan?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: John on August 07, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
You never know. 4869 has appeared on the 4/H/M

When was that Nathan?

I swear it was posted on here a few months back but a 48** trident was definetley reported on the 4M
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 07, 2013, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: John on August 07, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
You never know. 4869 has appeared on the 4/H/M

When was that Nathan?

I swear it was posted on here a few months back but a 48** trident was definetley reported on the 4M

You mean a 48** Enviro400 ;)

Yes it was definitely 4869 as I remember thinking that was the same one that got onto the 69.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 07, 2013, 09:52:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: John on August 07, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
You never know. 4869 has appeared on the 4/H/M

When was that Nathan?

I swear it was posted on here a few months back but a 48** trident was definetley reported on the 4M

Nathan? , isnt 4869 a Enviro400 branded 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 07, 2013, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 07, 2013, 09:52:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:50:22 PM
Quote from: John on August 07, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:37:17 PM
You never know. 4869 has appeared on the 4/H/M

When was that Nathan?

I swear it was posted on here a few months back but a 48** trident was definetley reported on the 4M

Nathan? , isnt 4869 a Enviro400 branded 51

No
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 07, 2013, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 07, 2013, 09:53:25 PM
Nathan? , isnt 4869 a Enviro400 branded 51

No
[/quote]

The last 51 branded Enviro400 is 4868
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 07, 2013, 09:54:38 PM
 thought 4869 was a Branded 51 enviro400, Apologies
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 07, 2013, 09:59:04 PM
Yes i meant Enviro Matt  ;) Yes i rode 4869 on the 69 in January.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 13, 2013, 08:10:36 AM
4734 looks brilliant  :D Would be nice for it to get the 934/5/6 branding, you never know!

Is there another Walsall Toothpaste Enviro400 in for refurb now it is completed?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 13, 2013, 09:38:09 AM
4734 on the 10 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 13, 2013, 09:39:18 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2013, 09:38:09 AM
4734 on the 10 today

Hopefully I will see it then, going into WA later today to meet a freind so hopefully I will see it before hand if its still out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
4128 going down the Lichfield Road in Wednesfield (By the Tesco Garage and Albion Pub) being driven by Matthew Jukes from WN garage displaying Walsall Garage on the Dot Matrix display.

Anybody know why?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 14, 2013, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
4128 going down the Lichfield Road in Wednesfield (By the Tesco Garage and Albion Pub) being driven by Matthew Jukes from WN garage displaying Walsall Garage on the Dot Matrix display.

Anybody know why?

Early start on V-fest shifting?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 14, 2013, 11:31:09 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 14, 2013, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
4128 going down the Lichfield Road in Wednesfield (By the Tesco Garage and Albion Pub) being driven by Matthew Jukes from WN garage displaying Walsall Garage on the Dot Matrix display.

Anybody know why?

Early start on V-fest shifting?

That's what I was thinking
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 11:57:12 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 14, 2013, 11:31:09 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 14, 2013, 11:27:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
4128 going down the Lichfield Road in Wednesfield (By the Tesco Garage and Albion Pub) being driven by Matthew Jukes from WN garage displaying Walsall Garage on the Dot Matrix display.

Anybody know why?

Early start on V-fest shifting?

My initial thought too

That's what I was thinking
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 15, 2013, 10:29:57 PM
Was 4734 out and about today. i was hoping to find it but no luck  :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 16, 2013, 01:02:43 AM
Not too sure though 4737 was on the x51 and the upper brake lights appear to be stuck on (constantly at their brightest)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on August 16, 2013, 07:31:35 PM
I was at Walsall garage today doing my driver training and noticed a "POG" Metrobus by the paint shop? What's the story behind that?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 16, 2013, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: Michael on August 16, 2013, 07:31:35 PM
I was at Walsall garage today doing my driver training and noticed a "POG" Metrobus by the paint shop? What's the story behind that?

Was it 'POG 577Y' in white? If so, I think that is owned by West Midlands Police as a community bus. It is stored at Walsall.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eagle50043/8575892128/in/photostream/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on August 17, 2013, 05:22:00 AM
Quote from: John on August 16, 2013, 07:45:07 PM
Quote from: Michael on August 16, 2013, 07:31:35 PM
I was at Walsall garage today doing my driver training and noticed a "POG" Metrobus by the paint shop? What's the story behind that?

Was it 'POG 577Y' in white? If so, I think that is owned by West Midlands Police as a community bus. It is stored at Walsall.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/eagle50043/8575892128/in/photostream/

Yeah that's it.

Is there a old TWM Metrobus parked there as well or is my memory deceiving me?

Well anyway I definitely heard a Metrobus being fired up, whether it was a training one or not.

Did you pass the stages of your training John?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 17, 2013, 11:30:12 AM
Quote from: Michael on August 17, 2013, 05:22:00 AM
Did you pass the stages of your training John?

I've got my medical middle of September. Well done for you Michael  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 06:36:42 AM
2 newcomers to Walsall

0582
1430-on 69 today 21/08/2013
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4569 on August 21, 2013, 10:41:10 AM
1430 has returned to walsall I see, what is this one and 582 replacing do we know?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 06:36:42 AM
2 newcomers to Walsall

0582
1430-on 69 today 21/08/2013

Rode 1430 on the 69 on the 12:25 departure from Wolverhampton. Its on Running Board W69/04
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 03:41:13 PM
582 possible replacement for 516

1430 possible cover for 4129 then after we will see what replaces.

547 is back repaired after accident damage.

1430 was a Walsall resident Oct 2007-June 2010
Good to see her return. I hope other EX Walsall return
To Walsall

EG 1404 1468 1470 1473
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 21, 2013, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 03:41:13 PM

EG 1404 1468 1470 1473

Lynx1103, you may stand a chance of WA getting 1468 direct from PB, but as the others are already in reserve I would have thought they are now unlikely to see further service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 04:29:34 PM
I would like all B10L in reserve put back into service to replace 15xx merc. I think there in better condition then them. Some only had refurbed 2009-2010 . Make the B10L last until 2015.

It would be nice to see 1468 back at WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 21, 2013, 04:40:17 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 04:29:34 PM
I would like all B10L in reserve put back into service to replace 15xx merc. I think there in better condition then them. Some only had refurbed 2009-2010 . Make the B10L last until 2015.

It would be nice to see 1468 back at WA.

Lynx1103, I have to agree with you there, the B10L's are one of my favourites.

How do they fair reliability wise these days now they're getting on?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
When they first came to Walsall there was a few issues with buses

Not going into gears

Loosing Air Pressure

But now they seem quite a reliable bus.

Just the odd one seems to break down now.

There's only 2 I don't like

1421-Sharpe breaking (Retarder)
1474- Rough Gear Changing

Faveroute

1446,1453,1430  Voith
1433,1439 ZF

It's a shame they haven't been sold on for further use with
Another operator.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 21, 2013, 05:58:15 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
When they first came to Walsall there was a few issues with buses

Not going into gears

Loosing Air Pressure

But now they seem quite a reliable bus.

Just the odd one seems to break down now.

There's only 2 I don't like

1421-Sharpe breaking (Retarder)
1474- Rough Gear Changing

Faveroute

1446,1453,1430  Voith
1433,1439 ZF

It's a shame they haven't been sold on for further use with
Another operator.

They seem to be good solid buses, I think part of the problem why they are not attractive to other operators is that very few were sold in the UK, Volvo soon moved on to the B10BLE.

Dundee's 7142 & 7150 are thought to have been sold on for further service, Western Greyhound has been suggested but that destination has since been ruled out.....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 21, 2013, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
When they first came to Walsall there was a few issues with buses

Not going into gears

Loosing Air Pressure

But now they seem quite a reliable bus.

Just the odd one seems to break down now.

There's only 2 I don't like

1421-Sharpe breaking (Retarder)
1474- Rough Gear Changing

Faveroute

1446,1453,1430  Voith
1433,1439 ZF

It's a shame they haven't been sold on for further use with
Another operator.

Was on 1433 today and it was fabulous it really was, quick, smart and honestly not a single rattle, better than every Merc I've been on and rattled less than 5512 I used to get home!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 21, 2013, 06:38:28 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 21, 2013, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
When they first came to Walsall there was a few issues with buses

Not going into gears

Loosing Air Pressure

But now they seem quite a reliable bus.

Just the odd one seems to break down now.

There's only 2 I don't like

1421-Sharpe breaking (Retarder)
1474- Rough Gear Changing

Faveroute

1446,1453,1430  Voith
1433,1439 ZF

It's a shame they haven't been sold on for further use with
Another operator.

Was on 1433 today and it was fabulous it really was, quick, smart and honestly not a single rattle, better than every Merc I've been on and rattled less than 5512 I used to get home!

I rode 1433 today too, on the 14:55 departure from Walsall, loved it! It's now my favourite B10L. Definitely the fastest B10L I've ever been on. I usually prefer the Voith B10Ls over the ZF ones but this one is an exception.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 21, 2013, 06:41:54 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 21, 2013, 02:09:35 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 06:36:42 AM
2 newcomers to Walsall

0582
1430-on 69 today 21/08/2013

Rode 1430 on the 69 on the 12:25 departure from Wolverhampton. Its on Running Board W69/04

Was still out when I was in WA + Have most of the NX WA buses been washed, as I was in WA today an seen alot of clean buses, not that there dirty but they looked fairly new
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 21, 2013, 09:42:07 PM
I think they've been cleaning and respraying the wheels
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:56:16 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 21, 2013, 09:42:07 PM
I think they've been cleaning and respraying the wheels

Just read a message in one of my email accounts from head office - 582 & 1430 are replacements for 516 & 1435.

244 is also poorly at the moment with the engineers struggling to find out why it lacks power (apart from the fact it is a B6) leaving Walsall one tachograph fitted bus short. They are looking at fitting 4734 with a tacho.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 21, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 21, 2013, 06:38:28 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 21, 2013, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
When they first came to Walsall there was a few issues with buses

Not going into gears

Loosing Air Pressure

But now they seem quite a reliable bus.

Just the odd one seems to break down now.

There's only 2 I don't like

1421-Sharpe breaking (Retarder)
1474- Rough Gear Changing

Faveroute

1446,1453,1430  Voith
1433,1439 ZF

It's a shame they haven't been sold on for further use with
Another operator.

Was on 1433 today and it was fabulous it really was, quick, smart and honestly not a single rattle, better than every Merc I've been on and rattled less than 5512 I used to get home!

I rode 1433 today too, on the 14:55 departure from Walsall, loved it! It's now my favourite B10L. Definitely the fastest B10L I've ever been on. I usually prefer the Voith B10Ls over the ZF ones but this one is an exception.

That's the departure I got off at about 14:50 in Walsall!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on August 21, 2013, 10:16:03 PM
My Favourite B10L's

Voith - 1407/1427/1429/1430/1441/1452/1467
ZF - 1433/1438/1440
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ash on August 21, 2013, 10:39:04 PM
Saying about being reliable 1477 broke down in Walsall today blocking a couple of stands the sawdust was out seemed to be leaking oil or some other liquid from the engine.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 21, 2013, 11:42:39 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 21, 2013, 10:11:11 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 21, 2013, 06:38:28 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on August 21, 2013, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 21, 2013, 05:44:13 PM
When they first came to Walsall there was a few issues with buses

Not going into gears

Loosing Air Pressure

But now they seem quite a reliable bus.

Just the odd one seems to break down now.

There's only 2 I don't like

1421-Sharpe breaking (Retarder)
1474- Rough Gear Changing

Faveroute

1446,1453,1430  Voith
1433,1439 ZF

It's a shame they haven't been sold on for further use with
Another operator.

Was on 1433 today and it was fabulous it really was, quick, smart and honestly not a single rattle, better than every Merc I've been on and rattled less than 5512 I used to get home!

I rode 1433 today too, on the 14:55 departure from Walsall, loved it! It's now my favourite B10L. Definitely the fastest B10L I've ever been on. I usually prefer the Voith B10Ls over the ZF ones but this one is an exception.

That's the departure I got off at about 14:50 in Walsall!

I got on in Walsall, straight after you got off then! ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 22, 2013, 05:16:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2013, 09:56:16 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 21, 2013, 09:42:07 PM
I think they've been cleaning and respraying the wheels

Just read a message in one of my email accounts from head office - 582 & 1430 are replacements for 516 & 1435.

244 is also poorly at the moment with the engineers struggling to find out why it lacks power (apart from the fact it is a B6) leaving Walsall one tachograph fitted bus short. They are looking at fitting 4734 with a tacho.

Couldn't they fit a tacho to 582
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 22, 2013, 07:09:42 PM
0244 might be lacking power due to high mileage being on college run..
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on August 23, 2013, 01:29:43 AM
last time i saw it, i was following it in the car, and it sounded rather asthmatic, and was breathing very heavily. its probably got a tired engine
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:33:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)
And whats the chances of that??  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)

I gather there is a low bridge on the 34?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)

I gather there is a low bridge on the 34?

Not on the 34, but they interwork with 38s which go along Bridgeman Street
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)

I gather there is a low bridge on the 34?

Not on the 34, but they interwork with 38s which go along Bridgeman Street

Looking on Google Maps, the bridge on Bridgeman Street is 10'6". Are there any single deckers which won't fit under there? Omnilinks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)

I gather there is a low bridge on the 34?

Not on the 34, but they interwork with 38s which go along Bridgeman Street

Looking on Google Maps, the bridge on Bridgeman Street is 10'6". Are there any single deckers which won't fit under there? Omnilinks?

see second photo down
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1883.html

Scanias are now used occasionally on the 38, but Walsall try to keep Eclipse of there because they are a bit close
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 23, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
Hmm yes, it might be a bit of a squeeze for a double-deck there!  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)

I gather there is a low bridge on the 34?

Not on the 34, but they interwork with 38s which go along Bridgeman Street

Looking on Google Maps, the bridge on Bridgeman Street is 10'6". Are there any single deckers which won't fit under there? Omnilinks?

see second photo down
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1883.html

Scanias are now used occasionally on the 38, but Walsall try to keep Eclipse of there because they are a bit close
Naaa no problem envrios can easily get under that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 23, 2013, 08:03:03 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:45:13 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)

I gather there is a low bridge on the 34?

Not on the 34, but they interwork with 38s which go along Bridgeman Street

Looking on Google Maps, the bridge on Bridgeman Street is 10'6". Are there any single deckers which won't fit under there? Omnilinks?

see second photo down
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/1750-1953/1883.html

Scanias are now used occasionally on the 38, but Walsall try to keep Eclipse of there because they are a bit close
Naaa no problem envrios can easily get under that

Enviro 400 to Enviro 200 in seconds  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 23, 2013, 11:14:03 PM
Does the 38 have to use Bridgeman St?

Can't it use Queen St (I think? ) & Rolling Mill St, coming up Wednesbury Rd in & out of Walsall,  then double deckers could be used on the Darlaston corridor.

(Surprised Arriva haven't stuck a DD on either the 9 or 334?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 11:49:46 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 23, 2013, 11:14:03 PM
Does the 38 have to use Bridgeman St?

Can't it use Queen St (I think? ) & Rolling Mill St, coming up Wednesbury Rd in & out of Walsall,  then double deckers could be used on the Darlaston corridor.

(Surprised Arriva haven't stuck a DD on either the 9 or 334?

Double deckers are appearing quite reguarly lately on the 334, several DAFs and one Trident (4851)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 24, 2013, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 23, 2013, 11:14:03 PM
Does the 38 have to use Bridgeman St?

Can't it use Queen St (I think? ) & Rolling Mill St, coming up Wednesbury Rd in & out of Walsall,  then double deckers could be used on the Darlaston corridor.

(Surprised Arriva haven't stuck a DD on either the 9 or 334?
I had a DD on the 334 in the end of july
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JoNi on August 24, 2013, 01:50:44 PM
Trident on 334 on Thursday, didn't get number.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 24, 2013, 08:05:42 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 24, 2013, 01:50:44 PM
Trident on 334 on Thursday, didn't get number.

Hopefully you mean the Arriva 334?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JoNi on August 24, 2013, 09:01:12 PM
Yes, I passed it while riding in a Dart sitting on the nearside son only saw it was an ALX400 Trident.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 24, 2013, 09:02:57 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 24, 2013, 09:01:12 PM
Yes, I passed it while riding in a Dart sitting on the nearside son only saw it was an ALX400 Trident.

Not a Tridrnt but an ALX400 DAF (Same chassis as a Spectra) :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JoNi on August 24, 2013, 09:15:24 PM
Oops, not the first time I've put the wrong chassis on an ALX400, when I wrote an article about Coventry in Buses magazine I put the wrong chassis on Coventry Corporation liveried 4453. :o


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 24, 2013, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 24, 2013, 09:15:24 PM
Oops, not the first time I've put the wrong chassis on an ALX400, when I wrote an article about Coventry in Buses magazine I put the wrong chassis on Coventry Corporation liveried 4453. :o

Didn't you say it was an ALX400 B7TL? Arriva Wednesfield do have Tridents but with East Lancs bodywork
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 24, 2013, 10:53:34 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 24, 2013, 09:19:16 PM
Quote from: JoNi on August 24, 2013, 09:15:24 PM
Oops, not the first time I've put the wrong chassis on an ALX400, when I wrote an article about Coventry in Buses magazine I put the wrong chassis on Coventry Corporation liveried 4453. :o

Didn't you say it was an ALX400 B7TL? Arriva Wednesfield do have Tridents but with East Lancs bodywork

Only 2 of them and they're both 10-branded... hasn't stopped them appearing on the 19 and 334 lately though!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DOC37V on August 24, 2013, 11:37:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)

I gather there is a low bridge on the 34?

Not on the 34, but they interwork with 38s which go along Bridgeman Street

Looking on Google Maps, the bridge on Bridgeman Street is 10'6". Are there any single deckers which won't fit under there? Omnilinks?

Breath in !!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31762625@N06/5416331969/in/photolist-9fC7MX-ashNrE
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 25, 2013, 07:05:22 AM
Quote from: DOC37V on August 24, 2013, 11:37:55 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:35:49 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 23, 2013, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 23, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: domino.99 on August 23, 2013, 07:26:05 PM
are omnilinks and enviros starting to become a bit of a normality on the 34? (I hope so)

I hope Enviros are not becoming common on the 34 as the only ones at Walsall are currently double deck (but probably not for long if they are allocated to 34 running boards!)

I gather there is a low bridge on the 34?

Not on the 34, but they interwork with 38s which go along Bridgeman Street

Looking on Google Maps, the bridge on Bridgeman Street is 10'6". Are there any single deckers which won't fit under there? Omnilinks?

Breath in !!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31762625@N06/5416331969/in/photolist-9fC7MX-ashNrE

Was that the period before Nationals came back with a vengeance at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: bwsau cymru on August 25, 2013, 08:55:31 PM
was really nice today (earlyish morning) to have only 1 51 branded vehicle out! I managed to get a leather into work!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 25, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: dannygill on August 25, 2013, 08:55:31 PM
was really nice today (earlyish morning) to have only 1 51 branded vehicle out! I managed to get a leather into work!!

Around 1994/1995 mainley ex-Central coach ways.
All nationals was replaced by B6/B10 by late 1997.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 25, 2013, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 25, 2013, 10:01:28 PM
Quote from: dannygill on August 25, 2013, 08:55:31 PM
was really nice today (earlyish morning) to have only 1 51 branded vehicle out! I managed to get a leather into work!!

Around 1994/1995 mainley ex-Central coach ways.
All nationals was replaced by B6/B10 by late 1997.

Think you quoted the wrong post there ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: bwsau cymru on August 26, 2013, 09:44:01 PM
my eyes nearly popped out thing morning on 51. 51/01 06:30 getting into Birmingham a rammed enviro with a large standing load!! that bus must of made a small fortune for NX, really busy!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 26, 2013, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: dannygill on August 26, 2013, 09:44:01 PM
my eyes nearly popped out thing morning on 51. 51/01 06:30 getting into Birmingham a rammed enviro with a large standing load!! that bus must of made a small fortune for NX, really busy!!

Sunday service on the bus when the train isn't running.... Was inevitable really
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 27, 2013, 08:50:30 AM
Quote from: Kevin on August 26, 2013, 10:53:56 PM
Quote from: dannygill on August 26, 2013, 09:44:01 PM
my eyes nearly popped out thing morning on 51. 51/01 06:30 getting into Birmingham a rammed enviro with a large standing load!! that bus must of made a small fortune for NX, really busy!!

Sunday service on the bus when the train isn't running.... Was inevitable really

Not really, as the first train on a Sunday doesn;t leave Walsall until 08:39, so I doubt many were train passengers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 27, 2013, 09:34:12 AM
Tbh most buses i saw were much busier than a sunday and loadings were closer to normal weekday  service. Alot of services such as 51/X51,61/3,45/7,9,WN 1 and 59 were running with large loadings due to sunday frequencies
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on August 27, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
Bloody Sundays are a pain. They're busier then Saturdays due to reduced service and reduced times. I used to hate them. The times of a Sunday ain't that much different now then the 1980's lol...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 27, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 27, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
Bloody Sundays are a pain. They're busier then Saturdays due to reduced service and reduced times. I used to hate them. The times of a Sunday ain't that much different now then the 1980's lol...

It's much better for me where I live now compared to when I lived near Oldbury!

On Sundays, the 120 (which stopped outside my parents house) used to be hourly, same for the 128 which was a short walk away, while the nearby 448 was half-hourly.

Now living in Acocks Green village, I'm blessed with the 37 which is every 10 minutes, the 11 is every 15 minutes, and the 1 is every 20 minutes, while the 31A is every 30 minutes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on August 27, 2013, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: Stu on August 27, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 27, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
Bloody Sundays are a pain. They're busier then Saturdays due to reduced service and reduced times. I used to hate them. The times of a Sunday ain't that much different now then the 1980's lol...

It's much better for me where I live now compared to when I lived near Oldbury!

On Sundays, the 120 (which stopped outside my parents house) used to be hourly, same for the 128 which was a short walk away, while the nearby 448 was half-hourly.

Now living in Acocks Green village, I'm blessed with the 37 which is every 10 minutes, the 11 is every 15 minutes, and the 1 is every 20 minutes, while the 31A is every 30 minutes.

Lucky you!

Mon-Sat, I have past my house a 7/8 minute service (9), a 15 minute service (002) and a 30 minute service (241). On a Sunday, the 9 is every 20 minutes, the 241 every 60 minutes and the 002 doesn't run >:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 27, 2013, 07:22:38 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 27, 2013, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: Stu on August 27, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 27, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
Bloody Sundays are a pain. They're busier then Saturdays due to reduced service and reduced times. I used to hate them. The times of a Sunday ain't that much different now then the 1980's lol...

It's much better for me where I live now compared to when I lived near Oldbury!

On Sundays, the 120 (which stopped outside my parents house) used to be hourly, same for the 128 which was a short walk away, while the nearby 448 was half-hourly.

Now living in Acocks Green village, I'm blessed with the 37 which is every 10 minutes, the 11 is every 15 minutes, and the 1 is every 20 minutes, while the 31A is every 30 minutes.

Lucky you!

Mon-Sat, I have past my house a 7/8 minute service (9), a 15 minute service (002) and a 30 minute service (241). On a Sunday, the 9 is every 20 minutes, the 241 every 60 minutes and the 002 doesn't run >:(

Still more frequent than I have, my bus is every 60mins (934)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 27, 2013, 07:26:07 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 27, 2013, 07:22:38 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on August 27, 2013, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: Stu on August 27, 2013, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on August 27, 2013, 05:50:46 PM
Bloody Sundays are a pain. They're busier then Saturdays due to reduced service and reduced times. I used to hate them. The times of a Sunday ain't that much different now then the 1980's lol...

It's much better for me where I live now compared to when I lived near Oldbury!

On Sundays, the 120 (which stopped outside my parents house) used to be hourly, same for the 128 which was a short walk away, while the nearby 448 was half-hourly.

Now living in Acocks Green village, I'm blessed with the 37 which is every 10 minutes, the 11 is every 15 minutes, and the 1 is every 20 minutes, while the 31A is every 30 minutes.

Lucky you!

Mon-Sat, I have past my house a 7/8 minute service (9), a 15 minute service (002) and a 30 minute service (241). On a Sunday, the 9 is every 20 minutes, the 241 every 60 minutes and the 002 doesn't run >:(

Still more frequent than I have, my bus is every 60mins (934)

All as i say is on a Sunday, lucky i have a car.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on August 27, 2013, 08:05:03 PM
I have a 15 minute frequency in the 87  ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on August 27, 2013, 09:20:16 PM
I have a 12 min frequency on the 7
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 27, 2013, 10:05:02 PM
I get a 9 minute frequency (59) on a sunday plus the hourly 89 also serving the same stop with the 59 Mon-Sat every 5 minutes and the 89/69 every 30 minutes plus half houy Arriva 19 so a every fw minute frequency to Wolverhampton ;)

And the 59 never goes below every 12 minutes (Gap between last two departures of the night is still only 12 minutes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 07:41:16 PM
I was looking through the 116 - 422 fleetlist and noticed 244 (Walsall B6LE) is still under WA, is that still the case or has it been withdrawn?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 07:41:16 PM
I was looking through the 116 - 422 fleetlist and noticed 244 (Walsall B6LE) is still under WA, is that still the case or has it been withdrawn?

Been at WA for a while now Nathan, although according to Tony it is currently out of service with low power.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:09:49 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 07:41:16 PM
I was looking through the 116 - 422 fleetlist and noticed 244 (Walsall B6LE) is still under WA, is that still the case or has it been withdrawn?

Been at WA for a while now Nathan, although according to Tony it is currently out of service with low power.

Will it re-enter service ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 08:12:34 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:09:49 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 07:53:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 07:41:16 PM
I was looking through the 116 - 422 fleetlist and noticed 244 (Walsall B6LE) is still under WA, is that still the case or has it been withdrawn?

Been at WA for a while now Nathan, although according to Tony it is currently out of service with low power.

Will it re-enter service ?

Well Tony said they are looking at it, depends on what is wrong and how much it will take to repair.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:20:04 PM
Thanks Stu
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
244 547 582 669 are all off the road

Only 673/677 in service mainley to be seen in 335/336
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
244 547 582 669 are all off the road

Only 673/677 in service mainley to be seen in 335/336

Was 582 sent over from PE out of service then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
244 547 582 669 are all off the road

Only 673/677 in service mainley to be seen in 335/336

Hopefully they re-enter service ? but carnt see it myself
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
244 547 582 669 are all off the road

Only 673/677 in service mainley to be seen in 335/336

Hopefully they re-enter service ? but carnt see it myself

582 has only been at WA for a couple of weeks, wouldn't have thought it would have been transferred from PE if it was going to be withdrawn.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:44:39 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
244 547 582 669 are all off the road

Only 673/677 in service mainley to be seen in 335/336

Hopefully they re-enter service ? but carnt see it myself

582 has only been at WA for a couple of weeks, wouldn't have thought it would have been transferred from PE if it was going to be withdrawn.

How does a transfer work other than the obvious it comes from a garage I.E Pensett - Walsall, but what else does it in involve
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:44:39 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
244 547 582 669 are all off the road

Only 673/677 in service mainley to be seen in 335/336

Hopefully they re-enter service ? but carnt see it myself

582 has only been at WA for a couple of weeks, wouldn't have thought it would have been transferred from PE if it was going to be withdrawn.

How does a transfer work other than the obvious it comes from a garage I.E Pensett - Walsall, but what else does it in involve

Well it will need a WA ticket machine and new destination blinds. Presume the garage mechanics will look it over to ensure its ok for service, then it should be good to go.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:51:51 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 08:49:14 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:44:39 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 28, 2013, 08:39:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 28, 2013, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 28, 2013, 08:28:36 PM
244 547 582 669 are all off the road

Only 673/677 in service mainley to be seen in 335/336

Hopefully they re-enter service ? but carnt see it myself

582 has only been at WA for a couple of weeks, wouldn't have thought it would have been transferred from PE if it was going to be withdrawn.

How does a transfer work other than the obvious it comes from a garage I.E Pensett - Walsall, but what else does it in involve

Well it will need a WA ticket machine and new destination blinds. Presume the garage mechanics will look it over to ensure its ok for service, then it should be good to go.

Thanks STu
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 29, 2013, 07:21:42 AM
Any idea what has happened to the second x51 from Cannock this morning?

It's due at 659am at our stop & has not turned up yet!

Result, one angry sister who is threatening to email NX later!

Update : 4685 turned up at 727am but is that the second or third journey?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 29, 2013, 08:59:31 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 29, 2013, 07:21:42 AM
Any idea what has happened to the second x51 from Cannock this morning?

It's due at 659am at our stop & has not turned up yet!

Result, one angry sister who is threatening to email NX later!

Update : 4685 turned up at 727am but is that the second or third journey?

The last journey from Cannock - Birmingham is at 7:02
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 29, 2013, 09:11:25 AM
Nathan, He is talking about the timing point in Bloxwich not Cannock
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 29, 2013, 09:17:16 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 29, 2013, 09:11:25 AM
Nathan, He is talking about the timing point in Bloxwich not Cannock

So it takes 20 mins from Cannock - Bloxwich so it would be about 7:20, 7:22  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 29, 2013, 11:52:46 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 29, 2013, 07:21:42 AM
Any idea what has happened to the second x51 from Cannock this morning?

It's due at 659am at our stop & has not turned up yet!

Result, one angry sister who is threatening to email NX later!

Update : 4685 turned up at 727am but is that the second or third journey?

Didn't turn up at Scott Arms either, and didn't see it coming from town later to Scott Arms only. Possibility that the running board was picked up later cause then it goes back to the garage for a bit before going out onto the 41
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 29, 2013, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 29, 2013, 11:52:46 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 29, 2013, 07:21:42 AM
Any idea what has happened to the second x51 from Cannock this morning?

It's due at 659am at our stop & has not turned up yet!

Result, one angry sister who is threatening to email NX later!

Update : 4685 turned up at 727am but is that the second or third journey?

Didn't turn up at Scott Arms either, and didn't see it coming from town later to Scott Arms only. Possibility that the running board was picked up later cause then it goes back to the garage for a bit before going out onto the 41

has been answered on Simon's, NX OD page, bus developed a coolant problem and had to return to garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 29, 2013, 08:42:58 PM
I did see Tony's message(Thank you Tony) & tried to ring my sister at work, but only got her voicemail, which I gather she didn't pick up.

By the time, I got home, she'd already written the email & sent it off, as she also had complaints about the evening peak service as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 30, 2013, 07:35:34 AM
Don't know if it's making up for yesterday but 2 x51s turned up at the same time this morning. First one got to Tower Hill with a grand total of three passengers, and if I'm not mistaken Tony was driving it? Got into town and went out of service, when the other one became the Scott Arms only journey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 30, 2013, 08:28:20 AM
Quote from: Kevin on August 30, 2013, 07:35:34 AM
Don't know if it's making up for yesterday but 2 x51s turned up at the same time this morning. First one got to Tower Hill with a grand total of three passengers, and if I'm not mistaken Tony was driving it? Got into town and went out of service, when the other one became the Scott Arms only journey

Not me! I am driving today as BC are struggling so having a play with a hybrid on the 22/23 in 30 minutes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 30, 2013, 08:32:32 AM
Quote from: Kevin on August 30, 2013, 07:35:34 AM
Don't know if it's making up for yesterday but 2 x51s turned up at the same time this morning. First one got to Tower Hill with a grand total of three passengers, and if I'm not mistaken Tony was driving it? Got into town and went out of service, when the other one became the Scott Arms only journey

Not me! I am driving today but at BC on the 22/23.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 07:33:40 PM
Saw 582 in service at WA on the 335 this afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 30, 2013, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 07:33:40 PM
Saw 582 in service at WA on the 335 this afternoon

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! >:( :'( :'( the one day I dont visit WA I miss it  >:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 30, 2013, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 07:33:40 PM
Saw 582 in service at WA on the 335 this afternoon

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! >:( :'( :'( the one day I dont visit WA I miss it  >:(

You could try another day eh? :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 30, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 30, 2013, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 07:33:40 PM
Saw 582 in service at WA on the 335 this afternoon

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! >:( :'( :'( the one day I dont visit WA I miss it  >:(

You could try another day eh? :)

Every day this week ive been in WA (Except today) becuase Ive been hoping to see something other than a 673/677 and the day I dont go some else appears  ::) >:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 08:07:21 PM
Would have been around 17:55-18:05 in Walsall Bus Station i saw 582.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 30, 2013, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 08:07:21 PM
Would have been around 17:55-18:05 in Walsall Bus Station i saw 582.

I was in Birmingham then, seeing if I could get a better picture of 4734 (: or 4880 - 4884 branded, wish i'd gone to WA now  :-[
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 09:02:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 30, 2013, 08:13:12 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on August 30, 2013, 08:07:21 PM
Would have been around 17:55-18:05 in Walsall Bus Station i saw 582.

I was in Birmingham then, seeing if I could get a better picture of 4734 (: or 4880 - 4884 branded, wish i'd gone to WA now  :-[


Well 4734 was the bus i caught from Birmingham to Walsall on the 997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 31, 2013, 03:43:56 PM
Noticed today there was quite a few driver training buses out

1505 - which i got a picture of in Bloxwich
1512 - entering WA as I was leaving
13?? - B1OB - Near WA Garage

seen 1 more but carnt remember which it was
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 31, 2013, 04:38:00 PM
Anyone seen 4764/4770 lately ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on September 01, 2013, 11:59:08 AM
Some changes to running boards from tomorrow due to service changes, may potentially see some unusual workings.

Examples are:
1) X56-01, Dead to Boney Hay, 0645 X56 to Birmingham, 0806 997E to Pheasey, Dead to Depot
2) X51-08, Dead to KEHS, 886 to Walsall, then two round trips on the X51
3) 51-10, Dead to Foley Arms, 0640 X56 to Birmingham then on to the 51 all day (including some evening 934 journeys)
4) 335-01, 335 from start of service until the 1530 round trip, then on to the 301 from 1615 until end of service, including a few evening interworked 302 journeys. In theory, this could see the start of B6's on a daily basis on the 301 (and 302)
5) 336-01, this board now operates the 745 school service, then one journey on the 302 0854 ex Lower Farm, then on the 336, then on to the 335, then one round trip on the 6.
6) 701-01, operates the morning 701 service, then one round trip from Mossley (0905) on the 301. I'm unsure what vehicle will be operating this trip.
7) 705-04, operates the 0635 X51 ex Cannock, the 0750 short journey back to Scott Arms, then operates the 705 before operating the 0924 302 to Lower Farm. In theory this will probably be a Gem or Enviro.
8) 727-01, will operate the PM 727 journey, then an X56 short to Pheasey, then the full length X56.
9) 934-04, will operate all day out on the 934/5/6, before operating the 1825 X56 to Foley Arms.

I guess the 301/302 between 0830-0930 may be quite interesting to see.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 01, 2013, 11:59:08 AM
Some changes to running boards from tomorrow due to service changes, may potentially see some unusual workings.

Examples are:
1) X56-01, Dead to Boney Hay, 0645 X56 to Birmingham, 0806 997E to Pheasey, Dead to Depot

Reading the timetable ive got for the 997, it indicates that the 08:06 journey is SCH (School term time only), so what will happen when there is a holiday and that journey doesn't operate ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 01, 2013, 01:22:51 PM
Think my sister will be interested to see if RB 705-04 will operate correctly tomorrow.
(That's the one where the X51 arrives in Bloxwich around 655 isn't it?)

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 01, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 01, 2013, 11:59:08 AM
Some changes to running boards from tomorrow due to service changes, may potentially see some unusual workings.

Examples are:
1) X56-01, Dead to Boney Hay, 0645 X56 to Birmingham, 0806 997E to Pheasey, Dead to Depot

Reading the timetable ive got for the 997, it indicates that the 08:06 journey is SCH (School term time only), so what will happen when there is a holiday and that journey doesn't operate ?

The bus will run dead back to Walsall

The 08:06 997 is there solely to relieve overcrowding caused by the Great Barr School children on the following 997 journey so is not needed at other times
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 01, 2013, 11:59:08 AM
Some changes to running boards from tomorrow due to service changes, may potentially see some unusual workings.

Examples are:
1) X56-01, Dead to Boney Hay, 0645 X56 to Birmingham, 0806 997E to Pheasey, Dead to Depot

Reading the timetable ive got for the 997, it indicates that the 08:06 journey is SCH (School term time only), so what will happen when there is a holiday and that journey doesn't operate ?

The bus will run dead back to Walsall

The 08:06 997 is there solely to relieve overcrowding caused by the Great Barr School children on the following 997 journey so is not needed at other times

is that the journey that used to Start at Perry Barr an run to Asda ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 01, 2013, 06:20:39 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 01, 2013, 11:59:08 AM
Some changes to running boards from tomorrow due to service changes, may potentially see some unusual workings.

Examples are:
1) X56-01, Dead to Boney Hay, 0645 X56 to Birmingham, 0806 997E to Pheasey, Dead to Depot

Reading the timetable ive got for the 997, it indicates that the 08:06 journey is SCH (School term time only), so what will happen when there is a holiday and that journey doesn't operate ?

The bus will run dead back to Walsall

The 08:06 997 is there solely to relieve overcrowding caused by the Great Barr School children on the following 997 journey so is not needed at other times

is that the journey that used to Start at Perry Barr an run to Asda ?

yes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 06:36:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2013, 06:20:39 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 01:19:42 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 01, 2013, 11:59:08 AM
Some changes to running boards from tomorrow due to service changes, may potentially see some unusual workings.

Examples are:
1) X56-01, Dead to Boney Hay, 0645 X56 to Birmingham, 0806 997E to Pheasey, Dead to Depot

Reading the timetable ive got for the 997, it indicates that the 08:06 journey is SCH (School term time only), so what will happen when there is a holiday and that journey doesn't operate ?

The bus will run dead back to Walsall

The 08:06 997 is there solely to relieve overcrowding caused by the Great Barr School children on the following 997 journey so is not needed at other times

is that the journey that used to Start at Perry Barr an run to Asda ?

yes

Thanks....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 06:40:25 PM
Just a quick a question for anyone really;

are the following driver trainers used;

9???
9057
9697
9951
9955
9959
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 01, 2013, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 06:40:25 PM
Just a quick a question for anyone really;

are the following driver trainers used;

9???
9057
9697
9951
9955
9959

As far as I'm aware the only 2 Metro's that still see occasional use are 9951 and 9959, 9955 hasn't been used for years, but is still at Miller Street and had a little move a while back.

No idea on the Transits, but would imagine there still about, as far as trainers are concerned 9023 is the one I see most often knocking about, maybe up to 2-3 times a week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 01, 2013, 10:11:47 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 01, 2013, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 06:40:25 PM
Just a quick a question for anyone really;

are the following driver trainers used;

9???
9057
9697
9951
9955
9959

As far as I'm aware the only 2 Metro's that still see occasional use are 9951 and 9959, 9955 hasn't been used for years, but is still at Miller Street and had a little move a while back.

No idea on the Transits, but would imagine there still about, as far as trainers are concerned 9023 is the one I see most often knocking about, maybe up to 2-3 times a week

None of the Metros have been out for the last couple of months as they have been defective, one with a broken gearbox, but a spare gearbox has been found in stock, so they are both being worked on to return them back to their training roles soon. 9694 is completely rotton, hasn't been used for ages and next stop will be dog food tins. The other two minibuses are still in use for driver assessment
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
anyone seen 4764 today, due to it being unbranded from the 997 heaven knows were it is  ::)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on September 03, 2013, 10:43:30 AM
Rode 1786 on the X51 yesterday afternoon, left city centre just after 5pm. Nice thrashy driver, fast bus and no more than about 5 other passengers throughout the whole journey! Great ride.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 03, 2013, 11:29:08 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 03, 2013, 10:43:30 AM
Rode 1786 on the X51 yesterday afternoon, left city centre just after 5pm. Nice thrashy driver, fast bus and no more than about 5 other passengers throughout the whole journey! Great ride.

Not many passengers on 1786  as 4684 left 2 minutes infront on a X51 .

Also a B7RLE was operating a X56 journey to Pheasey yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 03:38:09 PM
is 4733 in refurb still or off the road, as I haven't seen it since it came over to WA? and just need 4764 & 4733 to complete my WA enviro set  ;D so proud  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on September 03, 2013, 03:44:44 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 03:38:09 PM
is 4733 in refurb still or off the road, as I haven't seen it since it came over to WA? and just need 4764 & 4733 to complete my WA enviro set  ;D so proud  ;D ;D

I think Tony said 4733 is in for Refurb :) but I'm not 100% sure
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 03, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
anyone seen 4764 today, due to it being unbranded from the 997 heaven knows were it is  ::)

More than likely on the X51, 997 or 934/5/6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/Smileys/default/angry.gif775 on September 03, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
anyone seen 4764 today, due to it being unbranded from the 997 heaven knows were it is  ::)

More than likely on the X51, 997 or 934/5/6

I will allow 4764 to come to me in its own time ;) ;D ;D hopefully thats soon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 03, 2013, 06:20:37 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
anyone seen 4764 today, due to it being unbranded from the 997 heaven knows were it is  ::)

4764 has never been branded for the 997 Nathan. 4770-76 were the ones originally 997 branded.

4764 was on the 51 yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 06:22:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 03, 2013, 06:20:37 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
anyone seen 4764 today, due to it being unbranded from the 997 heaven knows were it is  ::)

4764 has never been branded for the 997 Nathan. 4770-76 were the ones originally 997 branded.

4764 was on the 51 yesterday

I put that across wrong, what It was ment to say was due to it not being branded for the 997, but was in a rush earlier so typed that  ;D

I wasnt out Yesterday, too busy sorting out my list of buses I need/want a photo of
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 03, 2013, 09:43:14 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on September 01, 2013, 09:53:49 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 01, 2013, 06:40:25 PM
Just a quick a question for anyone really;

are the following driver trainers used;

9???
9057
9697
9951
9955
9959

As far as I'm aware the only 2 Metro's that still see occasional use are 9951 and 9959, 9955 hasn't been used for years, but is still at Miller Street and had a little move a while back.

No idea on the Transits, but would imagine there still about, as far as trainers are concerned 9023 is the one I see most often knocking about, maybe up to 2-3 times a week

9951 was out yesterday, have not seen a Metrobus in use for a while before then. Also saw 1345 training in Acocks Green today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ash on September 03, 2013, 10:09:22 PM
Is it ever going to be likely that a double decker appears on the 4/4H/4M or for example if there were only double deckers left in the garage that could be used and a bus was needed for the 4 would it be the case that an omnilink goes off the 301 for example onto the 4 and a double decker goes onto the 301.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 04, 2013, 07:56:49 AM
Currently on 1904 on the X56. Not a massive amount of people on board but doesn't seem any worse than when I used to see the Arriva minibus pull up in Birmingham. Not going to lie I felt a bit stupid deliberately letting an X51 go past just to catch this but hell I'll still be at work on time so all is good. Does mean that there will be an Omnilink on the 997E extra journey, which does strike me as a tad worrying because I know what the Great Barr school buses can be like.

Very tempted to wake up early one morning and get up to Brownhills just to catch it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 04, 2013, 12:47:09 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 04, 2013, 07:56:49 AM
Currently on 1904 on the X56. Not a massive amount of people on board but doesn't seem any worse than when I used to see the Arriva minibus pull up in Birmingham. Not going to lie I felt a bit stupid deliberately letting an X51 go past just to catch this but hell I'll still be at work on time so all is good. Does mean that there will be an Omnilink on the 997E extra journey, which does strike me as a tad worrying because I know what the Great Barr school buses can be like.

Very tempted to wake up early one morning and get up to Brownhills just to catch it

The PM Arriva X56 used to get a good load. Will hopefully see the X56 tomorrow PM, so i will be able to see the loadings
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 04, 2013, 02:54:11 PM
It leaves town before I get there from work so I never get to see it. Off all next week though with nothing better to do so it will go on my to do list
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 05, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/Smileys/default/angry.gif775 on September 03, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
anyone seen 4764 today, due to it being unbranded from the 997 heaven knows were it is  ::)

More than likely on the X51, 997 or 934/5/6

I will allow 4764 to come to me in its own time ;) ;D ;D hopefully thats soon

Nathan, 4764 was on the 934/5/6s today, if you have not found it yet (I know it more than likely too late now to tell you)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 06, 2013, 09:11:27 AM
Quote from: John on September 05, 2013, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 03, 2013, 05:45:58 PM
Quote from: John on September 03, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/Smileys/default/angry.gif775 on September 03, 2013, 10:30:55 AM
anyone seen 4764 today, due to it being unbranded from the 997 heaven knows were it is  ::)

More than likely on the X51, 997 or 934/5/6

I will allow 4764 to come to me in its own time ;) ;D ;D hopefully thats soon

Nathan, 4764 was on the 934/5/6s today, if you have not found it yet (I know it more than likely too late now to tell you)

Thanks for that john, but sadlly didnt see it :( so went home
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 06, 2013, 10:46:10 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 04, 2013, 07:56:49 AM
Very tempted to wake up early one morning and get up to Brownhills just to catch it

....so this morning I woke up (unintentionally) at 5 o'clock, and had far too much on my mind, so decided "screw it, I'm going to Brownhills".

Caught 1750 (which excited me in itself, love the Eclipses but was expecting an Omnilink), and thanks to a faulty Wayfarer it was late. There was already a handful of people on it, and by the time we got to Shire Oak and hit the stretch of countryside there was possibly a dozen of us on board. Someone got on asking if it went to Northgate, driver wrongly said yes and issued a ticket, woman quite rightly got a bit annoyed with the driver when one of the other passengers told her otherwise.

Only 5 people got on in Streetly, and one of them was talking to the woman behind me about the new route, with the phrase "that's a shame" mentioned, despite assurances it doesn't actually take longer.

The route through Pheasey (up to the church and down to Beacon Road) did seem stupid at the time, considering the number of other routes that go from that part of the world into the city, but stopping on the other side of the road, and trying to pull out onto Beacon Road involved waiting for a 997, because no cars would let us out. But then I saw the traffic on the Queslett Road in the direction we had come from and changed my mind. Some people got on further along the Queslett Road, which surprised me a bit.

So yeah, all in all, it turns up into town with a few more people than Arriva's effort, but still worryingly empty for a peak hour service.

And I really should just stay in bed next time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
4136 has still got 'route51' map inside the bus  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 10, 2013, 05:45:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
4136 has still got 'route51' map inside the bus  :D

Yes and 4686 still has preiemere 997 map on staircase
Well the last time I looked.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 05:49:52 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 10, 2013, 05:45:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 05:06:57 PM
4136 has still got 'route51' map inside the bus  :D

Yes and 4686 still has preiemere 997 map on staircase
Well the last time I looked.

Haven't been on a X51 Gemini for a while now, any reason for it still being on there ? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 10, 2013, 06:35:46 PM
Not done at the time and forgot about probably.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 10, 2013, 07:07:48 PM
Caught the 18:25 X56 short journey from the city centre just now, there was a grand total of 5 passengers on board, with about 20 people asking at Bull St "do you go to Kingstanding?"

I don't see much of a future for this route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 10, 2013, 07:10:12 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 10, 2013, 07:07:48 PM
Caught the 18:25 X56 short journey from the city centre just now, there was a grand total of 5 passengers on board, with about 20 people asking at Bull St "do you go to Kingstanding?"

I don't see much of a future for this route

More would board it if it went to Kingstanding like the Old X56 did
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 10, 2013, 09:00:40 PM
Nathan, 4764 was on the 997 today if you still needed to find it (obviously too late now) Just to let you know  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on September 10, 2013, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 10, 2013, 07:07:48 PM
Caught the 18:25 X56 short journey from the city centre just now, there was a grand total of 5 passengers on board, with about 20 people asking at Bull St "do you go to Kingstanding?"

I don't see much of a future for this route

I wonder how many people stood waiting for an X51 didn't realise they could possibly have used this X56. I know it's not always practical, but you'd think they may have had an inspector with each departure for the first couple of weeks, shouting out to all passengers where the bus was serving. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 10, 2013, 09:29:35 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 10, 2013, 09:21:41 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 10, 2013, 07:07:48 PM
Caught the 18:25 X56 short journey from the city centre just now, there was a grand total of 5 passengers on board, with about 20 people asking at Bull St "do you go to Kingstanding?"

I don't see much of a future for this route

I wonder how many people stood waiting for an X51 didn't realise they could possibly have used this X56. I know it's not always practical, but you'd think they may have had an inspector with each departure for the first couple of weeks, shouting out to all passengers where the bus was serving.

The driver did get off and ask people, didn't work
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 11, 2013, 07:48:05 PM
 :) finally got all the older Enviros at WA  :D, Now just need a few branded 51's and ill have all the WA enviros
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 11, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
anyone know what trips running board 934/20 does, got a glimpse of it in the cab and it looks like 2 trips ? or 3
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on September 11, 2013, 08:11:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 11, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
anyone know what trips running board 934/20 does, got a glimpse of it in the cab and it looks like 2 trips ? or 3

It does the PM 791 school service, then dead into Birmingham to operate the 1633 935 service, it then goes back into Birmingham as the 1755 934 and finally operates the 1850 935 into Walsall before returning dead to depot.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 11, 2013, 08:12:53 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 11, 2013, 08:11:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 11, 2013, 07:59:53 PM
anyone know what trips running board 934/20 does, got a glimpse of it in the cab and it looks like 2 trips ? or 3

It does the PM 791 school service, then dead into Birmingham to operate the 1633 935 service, it then goes back into Birmingham as the 1755 934 and finally operates the 1850 935 into Walsall before returning dead to depot.

Thanks  :), I knew it couldnt be many
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 02:46:28 PM
last one now  ::)

changes that happended at WA regards to service number changes , routes withdrawn and so forth, did have a list but seem to have lost it  ::) >:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 16, 2013, 09:26:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 02:46:28 PM
last one now  ::)

changes that happended at WA regards to service number changes , routes withdrawn and so forth, did have a list but seem to have lost it  ::) >:(

If you dig around on the likes of Google, you can find copies of the final review leaflets.

I'd upload them but they break the attachment limit.

Any particular ones you're interested in?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 16, 2013, 11:19:40 PM
mainly just ;
394/395/395A/395B what happended with that

Thanks much appreciated mate
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on September 17, 2013, 12:16:50 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 02:46:28 PM
last one now  ::)

changes that happended at WA regards to service number changes , routes withdrawn and so forth, did have a list but seem to have lost it  ::) >:(

Does this help?  ;):
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/web/FILES/North_Walsall_DL.pdf
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 17, 2013, 05:45:34 AM
I tried uploading that but the message said it was too big.

That's just a link isn't it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on September 17, 2013, 08:35:44 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 17, 2013, 05:45:34 AM
I tried uploading that but the message said it was too big.

That's just a link isn't it?

A link to the leaflet showing all the changes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 17, 2013, 10:45:37 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 16, 2013, 11:19:40 PM
mainly just ;
394/395/395A/395B what happended with that

Thanks much appreciated mate
What do you mean? If you mean which service replaced it then thats the 10/10A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 17, 2013, 06:59:43 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on September 17, 2013, 12:16:50 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 15, 2013, 02:46:28 PM
last one now  ::)

changes that happended at WA regards to service number changes , routes withdrawn and so forth, did have a list but seem to have lost it  ::) >:(

Does this help?  ;):
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/web/FILES/North_Walsall_DL.pdf

Sh4166 thats just what I was looking for, very grateful
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 20, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
244 back in service on 336 today

673 on 70A 2 days in a row

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 20, 2013, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 20, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
244 back in service on 336 today

673 on 70A 2 days in a row

Hopefully will be out Monday (: too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: NXWM Spectra on September 20, 2013, 05:17:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 20, 2013, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 20, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
244 back in service on 336 today

673 on 70A 2 days in a row

Hopefully will be out Monday (: too

It's very rarely out in normal service M-F.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 20, 2013, 06:02:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 20, 2013, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 20, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
244 back in service on 336 today

673 on 70A 2 days in a row

Hopefully will be out Monday (: too


Only out in normal service on Saturdays incase you never read Lynx1103's comment?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 20, 2013, 06:05:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 20, 2013, 06:02:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 20, 2013, 04:18:52 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 20, 2013, 01:49:57 PM
244 back in service on 336 today

673 on 70A 2 days in a row

Hopefully will be out Monday (: too


Only out in normal service on Saturdays incase you never read Lynx1103's comment?

He didn't post it in this topic
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 20, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
No i mean did you read his comment in general? I have seen it out only once in Mon-Fri service but that was some time back. Very rare spot it was :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 20, 2013, 06:09:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 20, 2013, 06:07:02 PM
No i mean did you read his comment in general? I have seen it out only once in Mon-Fri service but that was some time back. Very rare spot it was :)

Haven't seen it, but if thats the case then I wont see it Monday, and as I dont photograph on a Saturday I unless its in a very quite place then I wont catch it  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 24, 2013, 04:40:05 PM
1453 broken down in Wednesbury Bus Station on the 38.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 24, 2013, 08:28:14 PM
4128 seems to be coming out more but

4776 is hidi g away on college duties only to be seen on
Sat/Sunday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 24, 2013, 09:40:30 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 24, 2013, 08:28:14 PM
4128 seems to be coming out more but

4776 is hidi g away on college duties only to be seen on
Sat/Sunday

College bus driver must now have a digital tachograph card!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 25, 2013, 12:48:45 PM
Any reason why 4764 finished at the circle in the daytime before going back to WA on the 934 :/ , thought it had broke down but it it hadn't
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 25, 2013, 04:53:11 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 25, 2013, 12:48:45 PM
Any reason why 4764 finished at the circle in the daytime before going back to WA on the 934 :/ , thought it had broke down but it it hadn't

Some afternoon around 6 terminate at Kingstanding circle.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 25, 2013, 09:24:42 PM
This was around 12 lynx1103 ?

Just had a fantastic ride on the 2nd best bus at WA alongside 4775, newly refurb 4734 :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 25, 2013, 10:43:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 25, 2013, 09:24:42 PM
This was around 12 lynx1103 ?

Just had a fantastic ride on the 2nd best bus at WA alongside 4775, newly refurb 4734 :)


I caught 4734 a few weeks back on a Sunday and although the driver thrashed over the A34 flyovers it was one of the slower E400's
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 26, 2013, 09:42:41 PM
Are 4735 and 4736 still roaming about in TWM livery or is one in for refurb as 4733/4 are now done? I have not seen then for a while
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 26, 2013, 11:24:06 PM
John 4735 is still in the Toothpaste livery , last I seen it was on the 997 Yesterday I think it was, not seen 4736 though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 27, 2013, 06:10:43 AM
Walsall scania repainted I think 1896 but not sure.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 27, 2013, 09:37:18 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 26, 2013, 11:24:06 PM
John 4735 is still in the Toothpaste livery , last I seen it was on the 997 Yesterday I think it was, not seen 4736 though

Thanks Nathan. I guess one may go for refurb soon, as Walsall want them all in NXWM livery
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 27, 2013, 02:38:02 PM
10-10A 4735
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 28, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
Former Flights FJ11MLE/F/K/N/O are all parked in Walsall garage.
547 is back from accident repairs and 581 has transferred here from Wolverhampton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 28, 2013, 10:24:11 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
Former Flights FJ11MLE/F/K/N/O are all parked in Walsall garage.
547 is back from accident repairs and 581 has transferred here from Wolverhampton




Wonder why 581 has transferred? Only saw it the other day on the 59
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 28, 2013, 12:49:18 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 28, 2013, 10:24:11 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
Former Flights FJ11MLE/F/K/N/O are all parked in Walsall garage.
547 is back from accident repairs and 581 has transferred here from Wolverhampton

Wonder why 581 has transferred? Only saw it the other day on the 59

Obviously surplus at Wolverhampton and Walsall must need one more B6LE for their fleet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 28, 2013, 11:38:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
Former Flights FJ11MLE/F/K/N/O are all parked in Walsall garage.

It's strange that those 5 x Levante have turned up at WA, if they were destined for NX Ops, I've have expected them to go to Sipson Road for preparation.

Have the two parked behind 13114 been repainted allover white or just had NX logos removed?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 29, 2013, 08:35:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
Former Flights FJ11MLE/F/K/N/O are all parked in Walsall garage.
547 is back from accident repairs and 581 has transferred here from Wolverhampton

547 has been back a month but is yet to enter service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 29, 2013, 12:49:24 PM
1896 repainted with new logos looking fab
On 311/313 today Sunday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 01, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
Is that the one with the fleet name over the driver's window/front door?

Must admit I prefer the fleet name in the centre personally.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 01, 2013, 09:30:27 PM
Lots of Scanias!

A photo I haven't had on the internet since the collapse of fotopic!
http://wmbusphotos.com/zstockphotos/WalsallScanias.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 01, 2013, 09:32:37 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 01, 2013, 09:30:27 PM
Lots of Scanias!

A photo I haven't had on the internet since the collapse of fotopic!
http://wmbusphotos.com/zstockphotos/WalsallScanias.html

Looks like a computer graphics glitch..
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 01, 2013, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 01, 2013, 09:01:41 PM
Is that the one with the fleet name over the driver's window/front door?

Must admit I prefer the fleet name in the centre personally.

I do as well, but I have got used to the white logo now

It makes room for new branding in the future, but hopefully adverts are not posted in the space created by moving the logo forward
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: dayvid on October 01, 2013, 11:04:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2013, 10:17:28 AM
Former Flights FJ11MLE/F/K/N/O are all parked in Walsall garage.
547 is back from accident repairs and 581 has transferred here from Wolverhampton

How come these are here Tony?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 02, 2013, 09:30:56 AM
4734 no longer looks new, its lost its shiny rims shame :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 05, 2013, 12:17:24 AM
Anyone know the PVR for the X51/934/935A on sundays all together

And evening 997 PVR is 3 isn't it ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on October 05, 2013, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 05, 2013, 12:17:24 AM
Anyone know the PVR for the X51/934/935A on sundays all together

And evening 997 PVR is 3 isn't it ?
5, isn't it? X51 = 3 buses, 934E = 1 bus, 935A = 2 buses (don't quote me on that)
I think the evening and Sunday PVR of the 997 is 3. The full 997 requires 2 and the E requires 1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 05, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
Thanks SH4166
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on October 05, 2013, 11:30:10 AM
Quote from: Sh4166 on October 05, 2013, 12:29:34 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 05, 2013, 12:17:24 AM
Anyone know the PVR for the X51/934/935A on sundays all together

And evening 997 PVR is 3 isn't it ?
5, isn't it? X51 = 3 buses, 934E = 1 bus, 935A = 2 buses (don't quote me on that)
I think the evening and Sunday PVR of the 997 is 3. The full 997 requires 2 and the E requires 1

There are six 934 running boards on a Sunday (which includes workings on the X51 & 935A during the daytime). All these boards are out at the same time so the PVR is 6.

The 997 also has six running boards on a Sunday, although has a PVR of only 3 (in service) or 4 (if you include the bus running dead to start service). This is because at certain times the 997E vehicle returns back to depot for driver changeovers with dead running between Pheasey & Walsall Garage. For some reason, different stints on the 997E fall under different boards (although in reality it may use the same bus for more than 1 board).



Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 06, 2013, 05:53:26 PM
Anyone know why there's two 997's running together on a sunday ??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 06, 2013, 06:35:44 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 06, 2013, 05:53:26 PM
Anyone know why there's two 997's running together on a sunday ??

Wonder if something happened in Birmingham today because the 241 was 20 minutes late off a 140 in Dudley and the 126 was running very late today (Both 4583 and 4542 seen very late displaying not in service and 5510 was also put into service)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 06, 2013, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 06, 2013, 05:53:26 PM
Anyone know why there's two 997's running together on a sunday ??

When? Because I saw two 997 branded buses come from Pheasey onto beacon road together about half 2 this afternoon, but the one went up towards Barr beacon (presumably NIS back to garage) instead
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 06, 2013, 08:18:52 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 06, 2013, 07:13:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 06, 2013, 05:53:26 PM
Anyone know why there's two 997's running together on a sunday ??

When? Because I saw two 997 branded buses come from Pheasey onto beacon road together about half 2 this afternoon, but the one went up towards Barr beacon (presumably NIS back to garage) instead

around 17:50, seen presumably the late 997 - Walsall followed by the on time 997E to the pheasey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 06, 2013, 11:07:21 PM
1896 on 311/313 today, yes I know it's been back for a week or so but it was strange seeing an Omnilink in the new shade of red in Dudley!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 07, 2013, 04:19:56 PM
4736 repainted/refurbised on X51 today looking Fab.

Only 4735 in toothpaste livery
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4566 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Is 4737 getting the same treatment do you know?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 07, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Is 4737 getting the same treatment do you know?

Why would 4737 be getting the same treatment, it's already in NX livery?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 07, 2013, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 07, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Is 4737 getting the same treatment do you know?

Why would 4737 be getting the same treatment, it's already in NX livery?

So was 1896, and that is 18 months newer than 4737.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 07, 2013, 07:44:19 PM
Quote from: John on October 07, 2013, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 07, 2013, 07:10:41 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 07, 2013, 07:05:51 PM
Is 4737 getting the same treatment do you know?

Why would 4737 be getting the same treatment, it's already in NX livery?

So was 1896, and that is 18 months newer than 4737.

Tridents need doing before anyhing else some from new no repaint 12 years

4307 4308 4309 4329 4331 4332

And EX-51 Branded from 2006

4125 4126 4127 4129 4130 4131 4132 4133 4134 4137 4305 4306
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4566 on October 07, 2013, 11:10:30 PM
But the reds faded and the trim has had no or little attention since it was new, my point is it wouldnt be a matching set thats all
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 08, 2013, 08:50:20 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 07, 2013, 11:10:30 PM
But the reds faded and the trim has had no or little attention since it was new, my point is it wouldnt be a matching set thats all

This is the same as 4487 which may be getting another repaint when 4495 returns, that will be the odd one out, and the tattiest Gemini at Perry Barr. I do agree with you Ashley, 4737 could benefit from a refurb to make them all look smart
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4566 on October 08, 2013, 09:45:01 AM
I was also thinking of 4487, but whilst on the subject, another odd one out is 4695 as that didnt get new trim on repaint
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 09, 2013, 10:22:05 AM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 08, 2013, 09:45:01 AM
I was also thinking of 4487, but whilst on the subject, another odd one out is 4695 as that didnt get new trim on repaint

So has

1750 1752 1754 1755 1766 1767 1769 1770 1771 1772 1773 1774 1776 1777 1778 1779 1780
1781 1782 1783 1784 1787 all repaint but no Refurb. Should start with 1750 to complete this batch.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 09, 2013, 12:28:26 PM
Lynx1103, You say 1767 was repainted but not refurbed but it actually was refurbed into The grey dot moquette
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 09, 2013, 12:53:15 PM
I was a bit unsure about 1767 it was an EX Acocks Green which joined Walsall late 2010
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 11, 2013, 01:53:09 PM
So 1896/4736 are latest repaint/refurbed examples I wonder
What's going in next. Probably 4735 while tridents just stay neglected.

Although EX 51 route branded did have a refurb in 2006 that was 7 years ago
And they now need repain/refurbishment.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 14, 2013, 06:39:10 PM
Sister has just got home from Birmingham after first missing one Walsall bound bus.

The next one she got on has apparently caught fire so another collected them.

She's not in a good mood again!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 14, 2013, 06:43:19 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 14, 2013, 06:39:10 PM
Sister has just got home from Birmingham after first missing one Walsall bound bus.

The next one she got on has apparently caught fire so another collected them.

She's not in a good mood again!

More than likely a B7 on the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4566 on October 14, 2013, 07:36:35 PM
1752 1754 1755 (unsure of) but i know 1770 1781 1782 - got new trim on their repaint/refurb (now old moquette)

1751 1753 1756 - 1765 1775 1785 1786 - grey dot trim on repaint/refurb
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 14, 2013, 08:16:00 PM
4735 is in for refurb. 244 was in the engine bay having attention, so presumably they are trying to sort out the 'low power' again.

Four of the ex Rotala Levantes are currently at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on October 14, 2013, 09:45:44 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 14, 2013, 07:36:35 PM
1752 1754 1755 (unsure of) but i know 1770 1781 1782 - got new trim on their repaint/refurb (now old moquette)

1751 1753 1756 - 1765 1775 1785 1786 - grey dot trim on repaint/refurb

1754 has the old moquette seen it in Kingstanding on the 935 while I was on 4133 on the 934 heading into City
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 14, 2013, 09:58:19 PM
1642 is still dumped outside the paintshop, looking exactly the same as it did last time I mentioned it was there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 14, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 14, 2013, 09:58:19 PM
1642 is still dumped outside the paintshop, looking exactly the same as it did last time I mentioned it was there

Is it due to be repainted Tony as Merc repaints seemed to stop a while ago?

Is 4135 inside the paint shop?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 14, 2013, 10:08:17 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 14, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 14, 2013, 09:58:19 PM
1642 is still dumped outside the paintshop, looking exactly the same as it did last time I mentioned it was there

Is it due to be repainted Tony as Merc repaints seemed to stop a while ago?

Is 4135 inside the paint shop?

I didn't look inside the painshop today, just popped in to refuel our minibus and speak to the Operations manager about the visit
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 14, 2013, 10:23:09 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 14, 2013, 07:36:35 PM
1752 1754 1755 (unsure of) but i know 1770 1781 1782 - got new trim on their repaint/refurb (now old moquette)

1751 1753 1756 - 1765 1775 1785 1786 - grey dot trim on repaint/refurb

1755 isn't refurbed Ashley :) Rob, 1752 is in the moquette that was standard before the grey dot moquette :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4566 on October 14, 2013, 10:33:25 PM
Ahh ok thanks, its one I never ever see is 1755, either that or a wA B7RLE bash is called for
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on October 15, 2013, 11:27:49 PM
Anyone noticed that the logos on the side of 4681 don't quite line up with each other?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/10299379794/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on October 16, 2013, 07:04:07 AM
Quote from: N94 on October 15, 2013, 11:27:49 PM
Anyone noticed that the logos on the side of 4681 don't quite line up with each other?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/10299379794/

It's clearly had several lower panels replaced, one is from the nearside of another bus, as the connection bars go in the opposite direction.  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 16, 2013, 09:09:25 AM
Quote from: Stu on October 16, 2013, 07:04:07 AM
Quote from: N94 on October 15, 2013, 11:27:49 PM
Anyone noticed that the logos on the side of 4681 don't quite line up with each other?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/10299379794/

It's clearly had several lower panels replaced, one is from the nearside of another bus, as the connection bars go in the opposite direction.  ;)

That's quite a cool effect, I like it! These buses must be due a repaint fairly soon as quite a few are looking fairly tatty, but the interiors seem to have lasted really well though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on October 16, 2013, 10:26:43 AM
has one of the red panels under the driver window been replaced as well? looks to be a different shade of red or more faded than those around it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylan4579 on October 16, 2013, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 16, 2013, 09:09:25 AM
Quote from: Stu on October 16, 2013, 07:04:07 AM
Quote from: N94 on October 15, 2013, 11:27:49 PM
Anyone noticed that the logos on the side of 4681 don't quite line up with each other?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/10299379794/

It's clearly had several lower panels replaced, one is from the nearside of another bus, as the connection bars go in the opposite direction.  ;)

That's quite a cool effect, I like it! These buses must be due a repaint fairly soon as quite a few are looking fairly tatty, but the interiors seem to have lasted really well though
I don't know about WA gemini's, but WB's interiors are a state, with the seats half refurbed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 16, 2013, 05:52:24 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 16, 2013, 05:42:57 PM
I don't know about WA gemini's, but WB's interiors are a state, with the seats half refurbed

Those are from their Acocks Green days
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 16, 2013, 06:22:17 PM
547 finally put back in service
581 in yard

1688 repainted all over white
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on October 16, 2013, 07:13:08 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on October 16, 2013, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 16, 2013, 09:09:25 AM
Quote from: Stu on October 16, 2013, 07:04:07 AM
Quote from: N94 on October 15, 2013, 11:27:49 PM
Anyone noticed that the logos on the side of 4681 don't quite line up with each other?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101550299@N05/10299379794/

It's clearly had several lower panels replaced, one is from the nearside of another bus, as the connection bars go in the opposite direction.  ;)

That's quite a cool effect, I like it! These buses must be due a repaint fairly soon as quite a few are looking fairly tatty, but the interiors seem to have lasted really well though
I don't know about WA gemini's, but WB's interiors are a state, with the seats half refurbed

I think our gems are ok. With the exception of a few that let the side down - 4528
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
My favourite Geminis are the BJ03's, they sound best in my opinion.

Worst are the Walsall ones, slow and horrible
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
My favourite Geminis are the BJ03's, they sound best in my opinion.

Worst are the Walsall ones, slow and horrible

Slow & horrible? They are identical mechanically to all of AGs. The only difference is the seats and trim! They are certainly not slow, if you want them to they will beat Tridents and Enviros off from a standing start with the same load on
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on October 16, 2013, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
My favourite Geminis are the BJ03's, they sound best in my opinion.

Worst are the Walsall ones, slow and horrible

Slow & horrible? They are identical mechanically to all of AGs. The only difference is the seats and trim! They are certainly not slow, if you want them to they will beat Tridents and Enviros off from a standing start with the same load on

Tony, Scania Omnilinks also beat Tridents off the mark. And B7RLE's, and B6's.... (and that's the truth.)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:52:51 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 16, 2013, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
My favourite Geminis are the BJ03's, they sound best in my opinion.

Worst are the Walsall ones, slow and horrible

Slow & horrible? They are identical mechanically to all of AGs. The only difference is the seats and trim! They are certainly not slow, if you want them to they will beat Tridents and Enviros off from a standing start with the same load on

Tony, Scania Omnilinks also beat Tridents off the mark. And B7RLE's, and B6's.... (and that's the truth.)

I know. There is actually very little difference between all vehicle types, there is probably more difference between different vehicles of the same batches where either the engine or gearbox is 'worn' on some vehicles. But some people on here seem to think Tridents are fast.

I have just done the same duty on the 966 as yesterday, four buses I had were 4644, 4678 yesterday. 4667; 4646 today. 4644 was the worst with a well ropy gearbox, but all 4 had the power there if you wanted to use it.

I think what it is with tridents is they rev like mad if the driver floors it and they sound 'fast' whereas a good B7 will just go through the gears properly and actually be going much faster
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:40:30 PM

Slow & horrible? They are identical mechanically to all of AGs. The only difference is the seats and trim! They are certainly not slow, if you want them to they will beat Tridents and Enviros off from a standing start with the same load on

No, as I have explained before, certain buses can be worse than others which you'd expect to be identical on paper. The Walsall ones are horribly rough sounding, most of AG's aren't. They are also slow pulling off (even for B7s), a ZF Trident will leave any of those sheds standing off the mark, let alone a Euro 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 16, 2013, 08:07:16 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:40:30 PM

Slow & horrible? They are identical mechanically to all of AGs. The only difference is the seats and trim! They are certainly not slow, if you want them to they will beat Tridents and Enviros off from a standing start with the same load on

No, as I have explained before, certain buses can be worse than others which you'd expect to be identical on paper. The Walsall ones are horribly rough sounding, most of AG's aren't. They are also slow pulling off (even for B7s), a ZF Trident will leave any of those sheds standing off the mark, let alone a Euro 4

Have you travelled on all 7 recently to know they are all sheds. I am sorry Matt, but the couple that escaped onto V Festival this year were certainly not slow. It was one of those that a driver managed the fastest round trip with.

ZF gearboxes are sh*t. I hate them compared to Voith. They are the only bad thing about Geminis. They never change down smoothly without slight jerk to throw standing passengers. They have a habit of still trying to pull forward when you are down to 1-2 mph so you have to leave your foot on the brake slightly harder than with a voith so you don't get the perfect feathered stop without the slight rock back and generally seem more jumpy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on October 16, 2013, 08:13:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:52:51 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 16, 2013, 07:42:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:16:05 PM
My favourite Geminis are the BJ03's, they sound best in my opinion.

Worst are the Walsall ones, slow and horrible

Slow & horrible? They are identical mechanically to all of AGs. The only difference is the seats and trim! They are certainly not slow, if you want them to they will beat Tridents and Enviros off from a standing start with the same load on

Tony, Scania Omnilinks also beat Tridents off the mark. And B7RLE's, and B6's.... (and that's the truth.)

I know. There is actually very little difference between all vehicle types, there is probably more difference between different vehicles of the same batches where either the engine or gearbox is 'worn' on some vehicles. But some people on here seem to think Tridents are fast.

I have just done the same duty on the 966 as yesterday, four buses I had were 4644, 4678 yesterday. 4667; 4646 today. 4644 was the worst with a well ropy gearbox, but all 4 had the power there if you wanted to use it.

I think what it is with tridents is they rev like mad if the driver floors it and they sound 'fast' whereas a good B7 will just go through the gears properly and actually be going much faster

Well that's correct Tony. Although I, personally, would say out of alot of the buses past and present the tridents are of the slower end. However, the Enviro 400's BC have are definitely slowest at pull off, most likely due to the fuel saving ECU chip and the refusal of revving in 1st.

However, did you ever have the pleasure of the Scania N113's? From my recollection they were fast on the scale of motorcars, let alone buses. Brakes were horrendously screechy but I liked those machines none the less.

Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 08:07:16 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:40:30 PM

Slow & horrible? They are identical mechanically to all of AGs. The only difference is the seats and trim! They are certainly not slow, if you want them to they will beat Tridents and Enviros off from a standing start with the same load on

No, as I have explained before, certain buses can be worse than others which you'd expect to be identical on paper. The Walsall ones are horribly rough sounding, most of AG's aren't. They are also slow pulling off (even for B7s), a ZF Trident will leave any of those sheds standing off the mark, let alone a Euro 4

Have you travelled on all 7 recently to know they are all sheds. I am sorry Matt, but the couple that escaped onto V Festival this year were certainly not slow. It was one of those that a driver managed the fastest round trip with.

ZF gearboxes are sh*t. I hate them compared to Voith. They are the only bad thing about Geminis. They never change down smoothly without slight jerk to throw standing passengers. They have a habit of still trying to pull forward when you are down to 1-2 mph so you have to leave your foot on the brake slightly harder than with a voith so you don't get the perfect feathered stop without the slight rock back and generally seem more jumpy

I've stated that above comment previously Tony, but no one took the slight bit of notice. Also, the retarder will not slow down without a sudden change down of gear, so its effectively a 12 and a half ton catapult.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on October 16, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
Does anybody know which journey's the B7RLE operates on the 934/935/936 in the week? because I'm thinking of recording a vid of it :) on one of its journey's obviously ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on October 16, 2013, 08:17:18 PM
It amazes me how someone without a car licence let alone a PCV licence who has never driven thinks he knows better than people who drive these buses day in day out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 16, 2013, 08:19:07 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 16, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
Does anybody know which journey's the B7RLE operates on the 934/935/936 in the week? because I'm thinking of recording a vid of it :) on one of its journey's obviously ;)

I can't promise it was the correct working but the last time I photoed a B7RLE 934 it was the 11:18 departure from town, may not necessarily be the right board as it could have just been a second B7RLE on the route though but worth a go I guess.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on October 16, 2013, 08:31:19 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on October 16, 2013, 08:19:07 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 16, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
Does anybody know which journey's the B7RLE operates on the 934/935/936 in the week? because I'm thinking of recording a vid of it :) on one of its journey's obviously ;)

I can't promise it was the correct working but the last time I photoed a B7RLE 934 it was the 11:18 departure from town, may not necessarily be the right board as it could have just been a second B7RLE on the route though but worth a go I guess.

Thank You Joe ;) I can work on that because sometimes I see a B7RLE on the 936 in Pheasey heading for Brownhills around 9:35-9:40 while heading into Brum on a 934 that's a Great Help Joe thank you once again :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 16, 2013, 08:32:49 PM
Don't be silly, its all good! :P Good luck finding it ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 16, 2013, 08:33:34 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 16, 2013, 08:13:19 PM


However, did you ever have the pleasure of the Scania N113's? From my recollection they were fast on the scale of motorcars, let alone buses. Brakes were horrendously screechy but I liked those machines none the less.



Yes they were really fast when new but like all Scanias they aged quickly. The last couple I drove were no faster than a Metrobus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on October 16, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 08:33:34 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 16, 2013, 08:13:19 PM


However, did you ever have the pleasure of the Scania N113's? From my recollection they were fast on the scale of motorcars, let alone buses. Brakes were horrendously screechy but I liked those machines none the less.



Yes they were really fast when new but like all Scanias they aged quickly. The last couple I drove were no faster than a Metrobus.

Yes in their older days they were said just to be Metrobuses with a different skin. Obviously they weren't but its just drivers speak.

I thoroughly enjoyed the early days of this job. Get away with blue murder, but its all gone now with the reporting culture.

Never mind. This is a thread for Walsall speak haha
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on October 16, 2013, 09:00:13 PM
personally, i prefer zf over voith apart from the jerkyness. the tridents especially jumping around. im not sure but wn have a mix of both gearboxs on tridents, and the zf ones change at better times so the engine isnt revving hard. however in this age, you would have thought the manugacturers would have cured these problems so that in future/replacement units it is improved. it will be interesting to see how the i shift in the volvo hybrids lasts. anyway, i like wa's b7 singles, they sound and feel like they are set up right
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 16, 2013, 09:05:35 PM
Personally to me, the ZF tridents seem throw you about too much and can be very jumpy and jerky, the voith seem much smoother. more controlled and sounds much better :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 16, 2013, 10:01:09 PM
As it's a Walsall Garage thread....
I think the Gemini's on the X51 are a perfect choice, from a passenger point of view they just feel more suited to the express work and more comfortable than Tridents. Yes the tridents do "feel" faster (from the engine noise etc) if they do ever appear on the X51, and likewise the Omnilinks "feel" sluggish, but at speed listening to music ridiculously loud like I do, looking out the window I can't really notice any difference in how fast the wall of the underpass is going past me
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 10:37:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 08:07:16 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 07:55:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2013, 07:40:30 PM

Slow & horrible? They are identical mechanically to all of AGs. The only difference is the seats and trim! They are certainly not slow, if you want them to they will beat Tridents and Enviros off from a standing start with the same load on

No, as I have explained before, certain buses can be worse than others which you'd expect to be identical on paper. The Walsall ones are horribly rough sounding, most of AG's aren't. They are also slow pulling off (even for B7s), a ZF Trident will leave any of those sheds standing off the mark, let alone a Euro 4

Have you travelled on all 7 recently to know they are all sheds. I am sorry Matt, but the couple that escaped onto V Festival this year were certainly not slow. It was one of those that a driver managed the fastest round trip with.

ZF gearboxes are sh*t. I hate them compared to Voith. They are the only bad thing about Geminis. They never change down smoothly without slight jerk to throw standing passengers. They have a habit of still trying to pull forward when you are down to 1-2 mph so you have to leave your foot on the brake slightly harder than with a voith so you don't get the perfect feathered stop without the slight rock back and generally seem more jumpy

I don't bother to remember the numbers, but whenever I catch a WA Gemini, they sound horribly rough, you can hardly hear the engine. People most likely think they're faster because of the speed of the routes they are used on X51, 997 etc; but in reality any B7TL Gemini would feel the same on those routes.

I prefer ZFs over Voiths in vehicle types where both gearboxes are available. This is simply due to the fact that they sound better, in my personal opinion. However, B7TL Geminis are slower pulling off than Tridents.

My bus stop is situated at the bottom of a hill, I have countless times caught the WB 241 on a Gemini which has pulled off on full power up the hill, and again many times the BC 9 on a ZF Trident pulling off at full power, and the Trident is always considerably faster. Fact.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 17, 2013, 05:15:51 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on October 16, 2013, 08:19:07 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on October 16, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
Does anybody know which journey's the B7RLE operates on the 934/935/936 in the week? because I'm thinking of recording a vid of it :) on one of its journey's obviously ;)

I can't promise it was the correct working but the last time I photoed a B7RLE 934 it was the 11:18 departure from town, may not necessarily be the right board as it could have just been a second B7RLE on the route though but worth a go I guess.

Yes, 1759 left on the 934 this morning at that time, saw it on Moor Street at quarter past 11
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 17, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 10:37:12 PM

I don't bother to remember the numbers, but whenever I catch a WA Gemini, they sound horribly rough, you can hardly hear the engine. People most likely think they're faster because of the speed of the routes they are used on X51, 997 etc; but in reality any B7TL Gemini would feel the same on those routes.



They sound horribly rough....... You can hardly hear the engine

Hardly hearing the engine sounds like they are in reasonable mechanical condition to me.

As for speed, it used to be quite common to be driving a trident on the 51 in the inside lane when an X51 would pull alongside in the middle lane to go under 6 ways underpass at Newtown baths. You would stand no chance of beating the Gemini with a trident off the lights
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on October 17, 2013, 07:33:21 PM
Think your wasting your breath Tony.. During my short time at Walsall it was always a pleasure to have a gemini. We used to have them on the 301s most Saturdays and were with out doubt the best bus i drove during my time at Wa.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 17, 2013, 08:10:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 17, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 10:37:12 PM

I don't bother to remember the numbers, but whenever I catch a WA Gemini, they sound horribly rough, you can hardly hear the engine. People most likely think they're faster because of the speed of the routes they are used on X51, 997 etc; but in reality any B7TL Gemini would feel the same on those routes.



But in the same vein, in the same location, I've been on a trident X51 that's pulled away quicker than an enviro 51 and Gemini 907 before... All down to the driver?

They sound horribly rough....... You can hardly hear the engine

Hardly hearing the engine sounds like they are in reasonable mechanical condition to me.

As for speed, it used to be quite common to be driving a trident on the 51 in the inside lane when an X51 would pull alongside in the middle lane to go under 6 ways underpass at Newtown baths. You would stand no chance of beating the Gemini with a trident off the lights
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on October 17, 2013, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 17, 2013, 08:10:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 17, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 10:37:12 PM

I don't bother to remember the numbers, but whenever I catch a WA Gemini, they sound horribly rough, you can hardly hear the engine. People most likely think they're faster because of the speed of the routes they are used on X51, 997 etc; but in reality any B7TL Gemini would feel the same on those routes.



But in the same vein, in the same location, I've been on a trident X51 that's pulled away quicker than an enviro 51 and Gemini 907 before... All down to the driver?

They sound horribly rough....... You can hardly hear the engine

Hardly hearing the engine sounds like they are in reasonable mechanical condition to me.

As for speed, it used to be quite common to be driving a trident on the 51 in the inside lane when an X51 would pull alongside in the middle lane to go under 6 ways underpass at Newtown baths. You would stand no chance of beating the Gemini with a trident off the lights

Kev, how do you know they've both put their foot on the accelerator the same amount?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 17, 2013, 10:05:28 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 17, 2013, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 17, 2013, 08:10:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 17, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 10:37:12 PM

I don't bother to remember the numbers, but whenever I catch a WA Gemini, they sound horribly rough, you can hardly hear the engine. People most likely think they're faster because of the speed of the routes they are used on X51, 997 etc; but in reality any B7TL Gemini would feel the same on those routes.



But in the same vein, in the same location, I've been on a trident X51 that's pulled away quicker than an enviro 51 and Gemini 907 before... All down to the driver?

They sound horribly rough....... You can hardly hear the engine

Hardly hearing the engine sounds like they are in reasonable mechanical condition to me.

As for speed, it used to be quite common to be driving a trident on the 51 in the inside lane when an X51 would pull alongside in the middle lane to go under 6 ways underpass at Newtown baths. You would stand no chance of beating the Gemini with a trident off the lights

Kev, how do you know they've both put their foot on the accelerator the same amount?

Yes, it all of course depends on how enthusiastically the driver pulls off. When driving economically the performance of a bus is pretty irrelevant as pulling-off speeds will be pretty much the same

I don't know if it's just my over-observance but I can tell from the sound of the engine how far down the driver's foot is on the accelerator, particularly in ZFs and in Tridents. That way I know when a driver is giving it the beans and am able to judge the performance capability of the vehicle fairly well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on October 17, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
I think you have to accept it from the horse's mouth so to speak, i.e. those that drive these buses for a living. I agree with you Matt that Tridents tend to sound and feel quicker. The ALX B7s and Presidents always feel quite breathless by comparison. Given where I live I haven't travelled on that many B7 Geminis unfortunately.

But I never have and never will drive a bus and I don't think you can argue with those that drive these buses day in day out.

Spectras must be one of the slower buses in the current fleet, but the fastest driven bus I've ever been on has got to be 4015 on the 50 many years back. Ridiculous breakneck speed to the point of recklessness (one passenger was thrown out if his seat).

Most of the time it is down to the driver, not the bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: bususer12 on October 18, 2013, 12:03:48 AM
Quote from: Mike K on October 17, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
I think you have to accept it from the horse's mouth so to speak, i.e. those that drive these buses for a living. I agree with you Matt that Tridents tend to sound and feel quicker. The ALX B7s and Presidents always feel quite breathless by comparison. Given where I live I haven't travelled on that many B7 Geminis unfortunately.

But I never have and never will drive a bus and I don't think you can argue with those that drive these buses day in day out.

Spectras must be one of the slower buses in the current fleet, but the fastest driven bus I've ever been on has got to be 4015 on the 50 many years back. Ridiculous breakneck speed to the point of recklessness (one passenger was thrown out if his seat).

Most of the time it is down to the driver, not the bus.

Again, from observation, but spectras seems to coast well at 20, and once they're its not too bad, its just getting to 20.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 18, 2013, 06:58:36 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on October 17, 2013, 08:22:44 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 17, 2013, 08:10:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 17, 2013, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 16, 2013, 10:37:12 PM

I don't bother to remember the numbers, but whenever I catch a WA Gemini, they sound horribly rough, you can hardly hear the engine. People most likely think they're faster because of the speed of the routes they are used on X51, 997 etc; but in reality any B7TL Gemini would feel the same on those routes.



But in the same vein, in the same location, I've been on a trident X51 that's pulled away quicker than an enviro 51 and Gemini 907 before... All down to the driver?

They sound horribly rough....... You can hardly hear the engine

Hardly hearing the engine sounds like they are in reasonable mechanical condition to me.

As for speed, it used to be quite common to be driving a trident on the 51 in the inside lane when an X51 would pull alongside in the middle lane to go under 6 ways underpass at Newtown baths. You would stand no chance of beating the Gemini with a trident off the lights

Kev, how do you know they've both put their foot on the accelerator the same amount?

I don't, that's kinda the point, just saying that the bus I was on was quicker than the buses next to it, and that this experience has happened with various types of buses at the sane place, so its not particularly that one type of bus is quicker than another
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on October 18, 2013, 02:22:15 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 17, 2013, 10:28:30 PM
...
Spectras must be one of the slower buses in the current fleet, but the fastest driven bus I've ever been on has got to be 4015 on the 50 many years back. Ridiculous breakneck speed to the point of recklessness (one passenger was thrown out if his seat).
..

HAHAHA!! I laughed so hard at that post I herniated my gut! I'm literally crying lmao!

That's why they call it the race track.

I recall years ago with the 42xx's on there, you'll leave the outer and by the time you got down to the Maypole you'll be full. - and you still had people running for you!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 18, 2013, 02:33:09 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 16, 2013, 10:01:09 PM
As it's a Walsall Garage thread....
I think the Gemini's on the X51 are a perfect choice, from a passenger point of view they just feel more suited to the express work and more comfortable than Tridents. Yes the tridents do "feel" faster (from the engine noise etc) if they do ever appear on the X51, and likewise the Omnilinks "feel" sluggish, but at speed listening to music ridiculously loud like I do, looking out the window I can't really notice any difference in how fast the wall of the underpass is going past me

Seats arent particularly comfy though, considering they're meant to be DP...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Eric Shaw on October 18, 2013, 08:00:55 PM
I travelled on 4682 on the X51 yesterday morning. It pulled up at traffic lights alogside a Scania on the 907 and was left standing when they accelerated away togather. It was then left behind when  pulling away from a stop on the hill into Walsall by an Enviro on the51. I had thought it was running on time but another X51 followed it into the bus station so was presumably 20 mins late.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2013, 08:02:57 PM
Quote from: Eric Shaw on October 18, 2013, 08:00:55 PM
I travelled on 4682 on the X51 yesterday morning. It pulled up at traffic lights alogside a Scania on the 907 and was left standing when they accelerated away togather. It was then left behind when  pulling away from a stop on the hill into Walsall by an Enviro on the51. I had thought it was running on time but another X51 followed it into the bus station so was presumably 20 mins late.

Or it was on time and the other one was late?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 18, 2013, 09:16:04 PM
Quote from: Eric Shaw on October 18, 2013, 08:00:55 PM
I travelled on 4682 on the X51 yesterday morning. It pulled up at traffic lights alogside a Scania on the 907 and was left standing when they accelerated away togather. It was then left behind when  pulling away from a stop on the hill into Walsall by an Enviro on the51. I had thought it was running on time but another X51 followed it into the bus station so was presumably 20 mins late.

Was your driver on 4682 accelerating hard or softly?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on October 19, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
The WA Geminis are fantastic buses from memory. I have a few days at home next week and will try to catch a few of them. Quiet engines, just as they should be then.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 19, 2013, 10:35:41 PM
Quote from: andyr on October 19, 2013, 07:44:00 PM
The WA Geminis are fantastic buses from memory. I have a few days at home next week and will try to catch a few of them. Quiet engines, just as they should be then.

It's not so much that the engines are quiet, they are no quieter or louder than normal, but additional rough sounds on top make the engine seem quiet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Eric Shaw on October 20, 2013, 06:35:41 PM
4682 appeared to be working hard. The hydraulic was screeching any time the engine was revving. It left Walsall before the bus which followed it in.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 21, 2013, 03:28:33 PM
All Walsall tridents Previous TWM logos now have nxwm logos front
Back and side.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 21, 2013, 08:58:35 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on October 21, 2013, 03:28:33 PM
All Walsall tridents Previous TWM logos now have nxwm logos front
Back and side.

And the ex Walsall Rd branded tridents in TWM livery have gained the proper NX logos like WN and BC's tridents. Saw 4137 with the logos on the 89 in Wednesfield this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 21, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Some of walsalls tridents are looking a bit tatty now arent they.still ten times better than the horrific offerings arriva stick on the 19 though lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 4566 on October 21, 2013, 11:22:35 PM
Hey those "horrific offerings" on the 19 are beasts, they run well and are immaculate inside and out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 21, 2013, 11:26:10 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 21, 2013, 11:22:35 PM
Hey those "horrific offerings" on the 19 are beasts, they run well and are immaculate inside and out

I agree with you there Ashley, not much I like more than anything with a DAF DB250 chassis, the Arriva ones sound nice as well, better than the NXWM ones
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 22, 2013, 08:09:41 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 21, 2013, 11:26:10 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 21, 2013, 11:22:35 PM
Hey those "horrific offerings" on the 19 are beasts, they run well and are immaculate inside and out

I agree with you there Ashley, not much I like more than anything with a DAF DB250 chassis, the Arriva ones sound nice as well, better than the NXWM ones

I'll second that. When I have been on them on the 19 they have been smart inside and out, running well, a lot better condition than NXWMs Spectras, the Arriva DAFs are nowhere near as bad as made out by the 'Arriva hate club'. The ex-Walsall Road Trident are in a lot worse condition wise both inside and out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: NXWM Spectra on October 22, 2013, 08:11:59 AM
Quote from: John on October 22, 2013, 08:09:41 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 21, 2013, 11:26:10 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 21, 2013, 11:22:35 PM
Hey those "horrific offerings" on the 19 are beasts, they run well and are immaculate inside and out

I agree with you there Ashley, not much I like more than anything with a DAF DB250 chassis, the Arriva ones sound nice as well, better than the NXWM ones

I'll second that. When I have been on them on the 19 they have been smart inside and out, running well, a lot better condition than NXWMs Spectras, the Arriva DAFs are nowhere near as bad as made out by the 'Arriva hate club'

I live a short walk from the 19 route and I've only seen one broken down.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 22, 2013, 12:53:25 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on October 22, 2013, 08:11:59 AM
Quote from: John on October 22, 2013, 08:09:41 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on October 21, 2013, 11:26:10 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4566 on October 21, 2013, 11:22:35 PM
Hey those "horrific offerings" on the 19 are beasts, they run well and are immaculate inside and out

I agree with you there Ashley, not much I like more than anything with a DAF DB250 chassis, the Arriva ones sound nice as well, better than the NXWM ones

I'll second that. When I have been on them on the 19 they have been smart inside and out, running well, a lot better condition than NXWMs Spectras, the Arriva DAFs are nowhere near as bad as made out by the 'Arriva hate club'

I live a short walk from the 19 route and I've only seen one broken down.

The one I went on once squeaked!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 22, 2013, 05:59:33 PM
As NXWM Spectra says We both live 5 minutes away from the Lichfield Rd in Wednesfield so we get both the NXWM Spectras on the 59 and the Arriva ALX400 DAF's on the 19 and i ride both regually and the Arriva DAF's are fast compared to Spectras!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 22, 2013, 07:46:14 PM
One of the s reg arriva ones s292 jua poss has the worst sounding brakes ive ever heard. Screeching really bad the driver said it was doing his nut lol. Another has ripped and sticking up flooring by the buggy area and theyve got stupid seating downstairs.  But if they were good buses etc and a good service whys the 19 always so dead?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 22, 2013, 07:54:57 PM
Nothing wrong with the DAFs, I think they're excellent buses! Don't see why this debate is happening on this thread though :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 22, 2013, 08:12:36 PM
My mate says hes seen a few out of service nx buses ( one was a 56 plate bb7rle) pottering about the cannock area again lately. Training duties?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 22, 2013, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: bob on October 22, 2013, 08:12:36 PM
My mate says hes seen a few out of service nx buses ( one was a 56 plate bb7rle) pottering about the cannock area again lately. Training duties?

The X51s are still normally B7RLE and they run empty back to garage. The normal X51 route roadworks are due to finish on 7th November so Double deckers can go back on the Cannock's again
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 22, 2013, 08:27:56 PM
Wouldnt make much difference on tge to/from walsall section tony, a transit would probably be big enough lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 22, 2013, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: bob on October 22, 2013, 08:27:56 PM
Wouldnt make much difference on tge to/from walsall section tony, a transit would probably be big enough lol

It does make a big difference on that section though, because if someone travelling past Walsall cannot get on in Birmingham because the single deck bus is full of passengers to Great Barr and Walsall, that may be another passenger lost.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 22, 2013, 08:41:37 PM
Yes true. Has this been a problem?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 22, 2013, 08:42:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2013, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: bob on October 22, 2013, 08:27:56 PM
Wouldnt make much difference on tge to/from walsall section tony, a transit would probably be big enough lol

It does make a big difference on that section though, because if someone travelling past Walsall cannot get on in Birmingham because the single deck bus is full of passengers to Great Barr and Walsall, that may be another passenger lost.

On behalf of my sister,  you're not wrong there!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on October 25, 2013, 10:02:31 PM
4681 has an offside rear waist level panel reversed, meaning that the connecting bars make a perfect set of arrow heads pointing in the direction of travel!  Seen yesterday in Sutton about 1545 on the 366.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
has 4875 got NXWM logos now on the drivers side, not seen it since I snapped it on the 10A.

Also what routes are the B7RLE/Scanias allocated too other than the 4/H/M & 6/7/7A & 77 carnt think of them off the top of my head  :-\
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 26, 2013, 06:40:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
has 4875 got NXWM logos now on the drivers side, not seen it since I snapped it on the 10A

Don't think so. Has been like that for a good while now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:41:16 PM
Quote from: John on October 26, 2013, 06:40:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
has 4875 got NXWM logos now on the drivers side, not seen it since I snapped it on the 10A

Don't think so. Has been like that for a good while now

Take it the panels were replaced but not the logos
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on October 26, 2013, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
has 4875 got NXWM logos now on the drivers side, not seen it since I snapped it on the 10A.

Also what routes are the B7RLE/Scanias allocated too other than the 4/H/M & 6/7/7A & 77 carnt think of them off the top of my head  :-\

301 & 311/313
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:45:41 PM
Quote from: Sh4166 on October 26, 2013, 06:43:26 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:39:30 PM
has 4875 got NXWM logos now on the drivers side, not seen it since I snapped it on the 10A.

Also what routes are the B7RLE/Scanias allocated too other than the 4/H/M & 6/7/7A & 77 carnt think of them off the top of my head  :-\

301 & 311/313

thanks SH4166 i knew there was more than 1 route allocated scanias than the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 26, 2013, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:41:16 PM
Yeah, like most others after panel replacement.

With Tony mentioning panel replacement in the Bordesley Garage thread, I wonder if it means that logos will also be replaced immediately as well

Quote from: Tony on October 24, 2013, 07:55:05 PM
From Thursday 31st October Bordesley's entire fleet will be free from all window etching and outside panel damage. Any that does occur will be repaired immediately as per Birmingham City Transport tradition.

All vehicles will be fitted with improved video equipment which will always be working

Hopefully the first of 10 garages to get this treatment

PS. B7RLEs are not allocated to the 6 or 77, Tridents are the main allocation, B7RLEs are sometimes seen on these routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:56:38 PM
Quote from: John on October 26, 2013, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 26, 2013, 06:41:16 PM
Yeah, like most others after panel replacement.

With Tony mentioning panel replacement in the Bordesley Garage thread, I wonder if it means that logos will also be replaced immediately as well

Quote from: Tony on October 24, 2013, 07:55:05 PM
From Thursday 31st October Bordesley's entire fleet will be free from all window etching and outside panel damage. Any that does occur will be repaired immediately as per Birmingham City Transport tradition.

All vehicles will be fitted with improved video equipment which will always be working

Hopefully the first of 10 garages to get this treatment

PS. B7RLEs are not allocated to the 6 or 77, Tridents are the main allocation, B7RLEs are sometimes seen on these routes

usually see more B7'S on the 6 than tridents hence why I thought the allocation was B7's with a Trident thrown in
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 26, 2013, 08:23:21 PM
I'm pretty sure 4875 had logos when i saw it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 28, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
I saw 244 with a smashed up front end being towed through Kings Heath this morning on a Mansfield Lorry, heading southbound.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: NXWM Spectra on October 28, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on October 28, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
I saw 244 with a smashed up front end being towed through Kings Heath this morning on a Mansfield Lorry, heading southbound.

Think it's been off the road the majority of the time recently, it surely can't be worth the expense of repairing it again.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 28, 2013, 04:09:03 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on October 28, 2013, 04:04:15 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on October 28, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
I saw 244 with a smashed up front end being towed through Kings Heath this morning on a Mansfield Lorry, heading southbound.

Think it's been off the road the majority of the time recently, it surely can't be worth the expense of repairing it again.

I can't see it happening either tbh, I personally think it's time running for nxwm is over but you never know I guess.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 28, 2013, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on October 28, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
I saw 244 with a smashed up front end being towed through Kings Heath this morning on a Mansfield Lorry, heading southbound.

Wow. I saw 244 on WA39 last week. Didn't think it would be smashed a week later... I personally don't think it would be repaired but yeah, we'll see what happens with 244 soon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on October 28, 2013, 05:41:31 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 28, 2013, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on October 28, 2013, 03:30:30 PM
I saw 244 with a smashed up front end being towed through Kings Heath this morning on a Mansfield Lorry, heading southbound.

Wow. I saw 244 on WA39 last week. Didn't think it would be smashed a week later... I personally don't think it would be repaired but yeah, we'll see what happens with 244 soon.

We all thought the same about 547, I guess it will come down to who was at fault & who's insurance will be paying for the repairs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 28, 2013, 06:56:25 PM
I didn't get chance to have a proper look as it was just a quick glance as it went past but the windscreen didn't look right and I could see some gaps at the bottom so either the panels were removed completely for whatever reason or that is all that was left of them! It looked to me as though it had hit a bollard or something as the stuff I saw was more in the middle, the edges looked alright but like I say I got a 5 second glance of it so wouldn't like to speculate for sure as to what happened.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mikestone on October 28, 2013, 07:01:06 PM
Saw a double decker coming down Pleck Road just after lunch, not certain but think it was on the335.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on October 28, 2013, 07:43:08 PM
it was in service on the 89 in wolverhampton last week.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 28, 2013, 09:50:25 PM
Quote from: mranon on October 28, 2013, 07:43:08 PM
it was in service on the 89 in wolverhampton last week.

Are you sure it was the 89 :o Very odd working
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 29, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
is normal for B7's to come off the 7/7A onto Birmingham routes. Spotted 1784 in Alriidge on the 7A then when I went into town seen it on the X56 to the Pheasey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on October 29, 2013, 08:51:12 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 29, 2013, 06:48:10 PM
is normal for B7's to come off the 7/7A onto Birmingham routes. Spotted 1784 in Alriidge on the 7A then when I went into town seen it on the X56 to the Pheasey

Unless there's something different during school holidays it isn't.

The X56 workings in the AM are a short from Pheasey, which then goes on to a 51 board & the full length route, which then operates a 997E to Pheasey before returning dead to depot.

The PM workings are undertaken by either a bus that previously operates the 727 school service before operating a short to Pheasey and then dead back to Birmingham to operate the full length, with the other journey being a bus off the 934/5/6.

All the buses on the 7/7A remain on those routes all day (with the exception of one board that goes on to operate the 6/10 of the evening). Perhaps there was only a double deck available at WA and so it was swapped with a single deck off the 7?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 30, 2013, 09:04:31 PM
Anyone else know the 997 was running up an down the kings road of an evening :O just seen 4869 shooting down the kings road towards Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 30, 2013, 09:07:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 30, 2013, 09:04:31 PM
Anyone else know the 997 was running up an down the kings road of an evening :O just seen 4869 shooting down the kings road towards Walsall

It must be a diversion, maybe Aldridge Road is blocked. The only way to get back on route is to use Queslett Road from Asda to the island with Kings Road, then down Kings Road to Shady Lane and use Shady Lane to get back to route on Oscott School Lane. It obviously is not a regular thing
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 30, 2013, 09:22:06 PM
Quote from: John on October 30, 2013, 09:07:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on October 30, 2013, 09:04:31 PM
Anyone else know the 997 was running up an down the kings road of an evening :O just seen 4869 shooting down the kings road towards Walsall

It must be a diversion, maybe Aldridge Road is blocked. The only way to get back on route is to use Queslett Road from Asda to the island with Kings Road, then down Kings Road to Shady Lane and use Shady Lane to get back to route on Oscott School Lane. It obviously is not a regular thing

It was heading down the circle, I the only possible way I can think to Walsall from there is the up the Kingstanding road on the 56 route to bring it to Foley Arms then normal line of route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 31, 2013, 04:44:21 PM
4874 seen parked up on the other side of the West Midlands, in Halesowen at 12:40, don't think it was on the 4H. Displayed 'National Express' on the LEDs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 31, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Both 4764 and 4766 on the 51 today. Seems to be alot of Leather Seated E400's on the 51 recently during the week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 31, 2013, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 31, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Both 4764 and 4766 on the 51 today. Seems to be alot of Leather Seated E400's on the 51 recently during the week

They are on the 51 all the time Nathan, usually only one a day though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on October 31, 2013, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: John on October 31, 2013, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 31, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Both 4764 and 4766 on the 51 today. Seems to be alot of Leather Seated E400's on the 51 recently during the week

They are on the 51 all the time Nathan, usually only one a day though

I saw 4774 on the 51 yesterday. An older Enviro is on the 51 every day though so thought nothing of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 31, 2013, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: John on October 31, 2013, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on October 31, 2013, 06:49:56 PM
Both 4764 and 4766 on the 51 today. Seems to be alot of Leather Seated E400's on the 51 recently during the week

They are on the 51 all the time Nathan, usually only one a day though

Yes i know John its just i was saying they keep appearing more than usual over the past few weeks.

And they are usually on there Sundays mainly but as you say they are appearing Mon-Saturday aswell now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 31, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
A lot of 51 change to 934/935A evenings ussally
An unbranded vechile so this maybe while a leather seated enviro is allocated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 31, 2013, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on October 31, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
A lot of 51 change to 934/935A evenings ussally
An unbranded vechile so this maybe while a leather seated enviro is allocated.

Caught the morning X56 short a few weeks ago, that was a leather E400 (don't know if it usually is, too early for me) and that is a 51 board so could explain some sightings
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 31, 2013, 09:30:25 PM
Any idea why double deckers have been appearing on the 301/302 lately?

Mainly Saturdays,  but I caught one on the 302 back from Walsall the other night!

I can understand the peaks but during the day?

I've been on that route during the day & the single deckers have been practically empty.

In fact, it's been a source of mystery for yesrs why Mossley has a frequent service & Lower Farm doesn't.

I'd be interested to know the loadings north of Bloxwich & whether some buses would be better diverted to Lower Farm instead,  or even continue past Lower Farm through Turnberry onto Mossley that way (You could interwork 301 & 302 at Mossley! )

Failing that,  run them as 301e to & from Bloxwich only.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 06, 2013, 10:39:48 PM
Two 89's running together into Wolverhampton about 8PM tonight. 1784 was half hour late with 4307 on time.

Don't know what wss hsppening as 3-4 WN 59's were running together aswell about the same time!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on November 08, 2013, 06:30:12 PM
Any news on 4129 been a long time since July 2013 out of use due to
Fatal accident

Also 244 seems to if dissapered and 581 hasn't seen use yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 08, 2013, 06:33:56 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 08, 2013, 06:30:12 PM
Also 244 seems to if dissapered and 581 hasn't seen use yet.

244 was seen been towed through Kings Heath with front RTA damage sometime last month. Don't know where it was going
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on November 08, 2013, 07:56:46 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 08, 2013, 06:30:12 PM
Any news on 4129 been a long time since July 2013 out of use due to
Fatal accident

Also 244 seems to if dissapered and 581 hasn't seen use yet.

Asked Tony at Walsall last week, no news at the moment of 4129. as for 581 it was awaiting attention at WA, hasn't turned a wheel at WA yet, also last Friday, 582 was receiving attention.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on November 08, 2013, 08:31:25 PM
I remember 683 at Walsall must of only had one day of use
On 336 then withdrawn and never seen again.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on November 08, 2013, 11:12:50 PM
The tridents on the 246 in dudley, are any of em ex walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on November 08, 2013, 11:14:00 PM
Quote from: bob on November 08, 2013, 11:12:50 PM
The tridents on the 246 in dudley, are any of em ex walsall?

Just 4135
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on November 09, 2013, 11:58:16 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on November 08, 2013, 11:14:00 PM
Quote from: bob on November 08, 2013, 11:12:50 PM
The tridents on the 246 in dudley, are any of em ex walsall?

Just 4135

And in between spent time at WN before it transferred to PE.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on November 11, 2013, 10:00:54 PM
4196 spent just over a year at Walsall as well in 2010/11 if that counts
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 11, 2013, 11:37:40 PM
Of slight interest, 51 home from town was 4776, didn't pay attention to the fleetnumber when I got on but inside seemed different, had the high back seats but they were the dark blue with dots material not leather. Just searched on here and found out it was one of the tacho buses. Didn't expect to find it in normal service late in the evening
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 12, 2013, 09:27:57 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 11, 2013, 11:37:40 PM
Of slight interest, 51 home from town was 4776, didn't pay attention to the fleetnumber when I got on but inside seemed different, had the high back seats but they were the dark blue with dots material not leather. Just searched on here and found out it was one of the tacho buses. Didn't expect to find it in normal service late in the evening

It was refurbed in standard moquette instead of leather last year sometime
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 12, 2013, 09:36:47 PM
244 is at Yardley Wood having front accident damaged repaired. Already had the front new moulding fitted when I saw it today. 4048 was next to it being repaired still
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on November 13, 2013, 06:07:06 PM
582 is back in service, saw it on the 38 today!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: pb2012 on November 14, 2013, 08:45:03 PM
PD0001111/403 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmingham, City Centre, Dale End and Walsall, Bridge Street given service number 51/X51 effective from 05-Jan-2014. To amend Route.
PD0001111/707 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Birmongham, Lower Bull Street and Boney Hay, Oak Lane given service number X56 effective from 05-Jan-2014. To amend Route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 14, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Hopefully X56 is re-routed back through Kingstanding then to Pheasey then normal line of route (:

Also watched a driver put his trip into the Wayfare an wondered how routes such as 934E/935A/X51/4H/4M are entered into the wayfare
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on November 14, 2013, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 14, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Hopefully X56 is re-routed back through Kingstanding then to Pheasey then normal line of route (:

Also watched a driver put his trip into the Wayfare an wondered how routes such as 934E/935A/X51/4H/4M are entered into the wayfare

Have no idea, except maybe when the route eg 4, is put in the machine, the driver is asked to select from 4, 4M,or 4H
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 14, 2013, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 14, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Hopefully X56 is re-routed back through Kingstanding then to Pheasey then normal line of route (:

With the changes been to the X51/6, It is probably a change of route in Birmingham City Centre

I don't see a problem with the current route of the X56. It gives a direct route to Birmingham for people living on Queslett Road between Scott Arms and Asda, and it helps the X51 with loadings at peak times, which is a lot more busier than the 934/5/6s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 14, 2013, 09:19:08 PM
Erm.... ok, worrying... guessing it's only a minor route change? Potentially moving the X51 and X56 back round Masshouse circus with all the other A34 buses?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 14, 2013, 09:24:36 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 14, 2013, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 14, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Hopefully X56 is re-routed back through Kingstanding then to Pheasey then normal line of route (:

Also watched a driver put his trip into the Wayfare an wondered how routes such as 934E/935A/X51/4H/4M are entered into the wayfare

Have no idea, except maybe when the route eg 4, is put in the machine, the driver is asked to select from 4, 4M,or 4H

You can push a button to get letters on the main screen then select, but all services are programmed in in numerical order, so, for example, when I do a 97A I prefer to type in 97 and the press the down key which scrolls down the full list of routes at that garage. 97A is one below 97 so only requires one key push that way to find the A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 14, 2013, 09:42:02 PM
Quote from: John on November 14, 2013, 09:18:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 14, 2013, 09:10:07 PM
Hopefully X56 is re-routed back through Kingstanding then to Pheasey then normal line of route (:

With the changes been to the X51/6, It is probably a change of route in Birmingham City Centre

I don't see a problem with the current route of the X56. It gives a direct route to Birmingham for people living on Queslett Road between Scott Arms and Asda, and it helps the X51 with loadings at peak times, which is a lot more busier than the 934/5/6s

Not really seen the X56's that full yet, see the X51 carry heavier loads. its usualy the 17:40 journey I see which can get quite full the 2 shorts dont seem to carry a full load but at the same time its not empty.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 14, 2013, 10:02:04 PM
The full X56 (both am and pm) definitely do seem to be well loaded, the shorts quite the opposite
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 05:12:57 PM
What route is the X56 (18:25) trip from an what time does it get into town (:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on November 18, 2013, 05:31:43 PM
The 1825 is 934-04 board

Which is a 17xx on 934/935/936 all day from 0600 hours.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on November 18, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 05:12:57 PM
What route is the X56 (18:25) trip from an what time does it get into town (:

The full board is as follows:
Dead to Walsall
935 Walsall (0557) - Birmingham (0648)
935 Birmingham (0653) - Walsall (0745)
935 Walsall (0750) - Birmingham (0859)
936 Birmingham (0908) - Brownhills (1006)
936 Brownhills (1011) - Birmingham (1116)
934 Birmingham (1118) - Walsall (1204)
934 Walsall (1215) - Birmingham (1306)
936 Birmingham (1308) - Brownhills (1406)
936 Brownhills (1411) - Birmingham (1517)
934 Birmingham (1518) - Walsall (1608)
934 Walsall (1615) - Birmingham (1709)
935 Birmingham (1718) - George Fredrick Rd (1747)
935 Kingstanding (1752) - Birmingham (1819)
X56 Birmingham (1825) - Foley Arms (1857)
Dead to Depot
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 05:44:21 PM
Quote from: notepanel on November 18, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 05:12:57 PM
What route is the X56 (18:25) trip from an what time does it get into town (:

The full board is as follows:
Dead to Walsall
935 Walsall (0557) - Birmingham (0648)
935 Birmingham (0653) - Walsall (0745)
935 Walsall (0750) - Birmingham (0859)
936 Birmingham (0908) - Brownhills (1006)
936 Brownhills (1011) - Birmingham (1116)
934 Birmingham (1118) - Walsall (1204)
934 Walsall (1215) - Birmingham (1306)
936 Birmingham (1308) - Brownhills (1406)
936 Brownhills (1411) - Birmingham (1517)
934 Birmingham (1518) - Walsall (1608)
934 Walsall (1615) - Birmingham (1709)
935 Birmingham (1718) - George Fredrick Rd (1747)
935 Kingstanding (1752) - Birmingham (1819)
X56 Birmingham (1825) - Foley Arms (1857)
Dead to Depot

Thanks NotePanel
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 18, 2013, 05:45:12 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 05:44:21 PM
Quote from: notepanel on November 18, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 05:12:57 PM
What route is the X56 (18:25) trip from an what time does it get into town (:

The full board is as follows:
Dead to Walsall
935 Walsall (0557) - Birmingham (0648)
935 Birmingham (0653) - Walsall (0745)
935 Walsall (0750) - Birmingham (0859)
936 Birmingham (0908) - Brownhills (1006)
936 Brownhills (1011) - Birmingham (1116)
934 Birmingham (1118) - Walsall (1204)
934 Walsall (1215) - Birmingham (1306)
936 Birmingham (1308) - Brownhills (1406)
936 Brownhills (1411) - Birmingham (1517)
934 Birmingham (1518) - Walsall (1608)
934 Walsall (1615) - Birmingham (1709)
935 Birmingham (1718) - George Fredrick Rd (1747)
935 Kingstanding (1752) - Birmingham (1819)
X56 Birmingham (1825) - Foley Arms (1857)
Dead to Depot

Thanks NotePanel

That must be the B7RLE board daily, I'm sure it left Walsall at 12.15 on the 934
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on November 18, 2013, 06:05:49 PM
The X56 is single deck due to low trees on sundial lane
Great Barr close to Scott Arms
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 18, 2013, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 18, 2013, 06:05:49 PM
The X56 is single deck due to low trees on sundial lane
Great Barr close to Scott Arms

Pretty sure Tony mentioned a while back there was a decker on it... that would have been fun
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 18, 2013, 06:51:00 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on November 18, 2013, 06:05:49 PM
The X56 is single deck due to low trees on sundial lane
Great Barr close to Scott Arms

Pretty sure Tony mentioned a while back there was a decker on it... that would have been fun

Think it was 4128
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on November 18, 2013, 09:20:38 PM
Double deck can be used AM Peak as it does not use
Sundial lane

Newton Road then left At Scott Arms lights Walsall Road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
4733 and 4683 both on the 40/1 today. Seems to be alot of E400's and Gemimis on the 40/1 recently over tridents
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
4733 and 4683 both on the 40/1 today. Seems to be alot of E400's and Gemimis on the 40/1 recently over tridents

4683 was on the 77 this morning ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
4733 and 4683 both on the 40/1 today. Seems to be alot of E400's and Gemimis on the 40/1 recently over tridents

4683 was on the 77 this morning ?

Definetley 4683 i saw Nathan. Saw it going through Willenhall towards Wolverhampton about 15:30 this afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 19, 2013, 12:48:21 AM
When I seen it on the 77 this morning around 9ish, it must have been a peak working
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on November 19, 2013, 07:47:45 AM
4682 4683 and 4733 were on the 40/41 yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 19, 2013, 09:23:09 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 18, 2013, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 18, 2013, 09:23:39 PM
4733 and 4683 both on the 40/1 today. Seems to be alot of E400's and Gemimis on the 40/1 recently over tridents

4683 was on the 77 this morning ?

Definetley 4683 i saw Nathan. Saw it going through Willenhall towards Wolverhampton about 15:30 this afternoon

Yes just checked, 4683 did spend some time on the 77 and some time on the 40/41 yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 19, 2013, 04:04:35 PM
Quote from: Ashley on November 19, 2013, 07:47:45 AM
4682 4683 and 4733 were on the 40/41 yesterday

Yeah i was aboard 4733 when i saw 4683
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on November 20, 2013, 04:56:17 PM
244 returned back in Walsall yard
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on November 20, 2013, 06:23:20 PM
Has 244 been repaired or is there still visible damage?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 20, 2013, 07:41:45 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on November 20, 2013, 06:23:20 PM
Has 244 been repaired or is there still visible damage?

I reported a couple of weeks ago it was having a new front put on at Yardley Wood garage. Hardly like to have an accident damaged front put on!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on November 20, 2013, 08:10:29 PM
I must have missed that post Tony, sorry!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on November 21, 2013, 07:57:45 PM
244 was on the 39 yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 22, 2013, 11:36:58 AM
Quote from: Ashley on November 21, 2013, 07:57:45 PM
244 was on the 39 yesterday

Out on the 70 today, I know some people find that bus a bit elusive
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 22, 2013, 05:40:33 PM
I thought 244 only did College duties ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on November 22, 2013, 05:46:40 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 22, 2013, 05:40:33 PM
I thought 244 only did College duties ?

No, it's been treated pretty much like any other service bus for a while now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 22, 2013, 05:51:21 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 22, 2013, 05:40:33 PM
I thought 244 only did College duties ?

its usually 4127/8 or 4776:that does the college duties now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 26, 2013, 06:26:28 PM
anyone else viewed this video that James made;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ9OEFERcN4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUfwK39dNXEax93A9A-7HQvw

Just watching it now, is it me or does 4735 sound diffrent compared to 4737 that arrives afterwards

4735 is 06:23 - 06:53 or there abouts

It could just be me  :-\
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 26, 2013, 06:57:43 PM
Something I noticed a lot recently, in the evenings (around 6pm) leaving the city centre, I'll regularly see 935/936s with plenty of space on board, but when the X51 comes it's invariably full and standing room only. This evening especially an Eclipse went past on the 935 only half full, and an E400 on the 936 with not many more on board, and yet for some reason they put an Omnilink on the X51 to Cannock (which is always late and therefore has more than one bus load of people waiting) meaning it went past my stop by the Childrens Hospital without stopping. Where's the logic/wisdom in that?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 26, 2013, 09:33:31 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 26, 2013, 06:57:43 PM
Something I noticed a lot recently, in the evenings (around 6pm) leaving the city centre, I'll regularly see 935/936s with plenty of space on board, but when the X51 comes it's invariably full and standing room only. This evening especially an Eclipse went past on the 935 only half full, and an E400 on the 936 with not many more on board, and yet for some reason they put an Omnilink on the X51 to Cannock (which is always late and therefore has more than one bus load of people waiting) meaning it went past my stop by the Childrens Hospital without stopping. Where's the logic/wisdom in that?

My sister would agree 100% with you.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 26, 2013, 10:41:15 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 26, 2013, 06:57:43 PM
Something I noticed a lot recently, in the evenings (around 6pm) leaving the city centre, I'll regularly see 935/936s with plenty of space on board, but when the X51 comes it's invariably full and standing room only. This evening especially an Eclipse went past on the 935 only half full, and an E400 on the 936 with not many more on board, and yet for some reason they put an Omnilink on the X51 to Cannock (which is always late and therefore has more than one bus load of people waiting) meaning it went past my stop by the Childrens Hospital without stopping. Where's the logic/wisdom in that?

Does that diversion on the cannock X51 (PM peak) still apply that means/meant that double deckers can't/couldn't work the Cannock X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on November 26, 2013, 11:57:46 PM
No Nathan, i saw a Gemini in Cannock on friday evening so the diversion must be long gone
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 27, 2013, 06:58:42 AM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on November 26, 2013, 10:41:15 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 26, 2013, 06:57:43 PM
Something I noticed a lot recently, in the evenings (around 6pm) leaving the city centre, I'll regularly see 935/936s with plenty of space on board, but when the X51 comes it's invariably full and standing room only. This evening especially an Eclipse went past on the 935 only half full, and an E400 on the 936 with not many more on board, and yet for some reason they put an Omnilink on the X51 to Cannock (which is always late and therefore has more than one bus load of people waiting) meaning it went past my stop by the Childrens Hospital without stopping. Where's the logic/wisdom in that?

Does that diversion on the cannock X51 (PM peak) still apply that means/meant that double deckers can't/couldn't work the Cannock X51

nope, finished a couple of weeks ago i think, definitely usually deckers at the moment
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 27, 2013, 09:34:30 PM
Oh ok then :) Wasn't sure when the diversion finished but i had a feeling that it had finished
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on November 29, 2013, 04:09:24 PM
Apparently there are changes to the 40 & 69 routes from 26th January. I'm unsure exactly what this will involve, meanwhile the 8/89 are due yet another timetable change, as are the 70/70A from the same date.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 29, 2013, 06:25:07 PM
Quote from: notepanel on November 29, 2013, 04:09:24 PM
Apparently there are changes to the 40 & 69 routes from 26th January. I'm unsure exactly what this will involve, meanwhile the 8/89 are due yet another timetable change, as are the 70/70A from the same date.

Wonder how many of the leaflets will be available by that date?

Has the latest version of the 69 / 70 / 70a / 89 appeared with the updated 89 from October (?) yet?

There was a notice in Walsall Travel Shop saying if you want a 89 timetable,  pick up the version on the 8/8a leaflet!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 06:00:38 PM
anyone know some of the Old WA routes from 1990 - 2009?

I.e 958, 950, 951A 952 , ETC, came across a few old timetables and just curious to know a few more

Thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 30, 2013, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 06:00:38 PM
anyone know some of the Old WA routes from 1990 - 2009?

I.e 958, 950, 951A 952 , ETC, came across a few old timetables and just curious to know a few more

Thanks

Surely if you have the timetables you can see what they were and when/where they ran?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 06:03:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 30, 2013, 06:01:46 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 30, 2013, 06:00:38 PM
anyone know some of the Old WA routes from 1990 - 2009?

I.e 958, 950, 951A 952 , ETC, came across a few old timetables and just curious to know a few more

Thanks

Surely if you have the timetables you can see what they were and when/where they ran?

I put that across wrong, looking at it now, I meant were there any routes similar to the 950/1/1A/2/58 Etc  :) as I only have the timetables for them routes and wondered if there were anymore like them?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 01, 2013, 12:03:22 AM
Was there someone route learning on the 313 today, as the bus me & my sister caught yesterday morning around 930am from Walsall(& returned from Dudley roughly 1030am, as we got off just after Princes End!) had a Indian driver plus a white guy on there?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on December 01, 2013, 12:26:08 AM
Perhaps. Yesterday, I was on 39 going to Walsall. There were 2 NX people - 1 was obviously a driver and the other was writing on paper and chatting to the driver. I was a bit annoyed that it took an hour getting to Walsall, when it should take 44 minutes. I didn't think of anything that the driver was new to the route. After reading Westy's comment, it made me think perhaps this driver was "learning" the route as well?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: driver on December 01, 2013, 09:12:44 AM
assessors! in service assessments
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
I see 581 has been withdrawn without ever turning a wheel at WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
I see 581 has been withdrawn without ever turning a wheel at WA

Why? 581 is the best B6 they have, it must have some SERIOUS mechanical issues  :o
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BN on December 03, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
I see 581 has been withdrawn without ever turning a wheel at WA

Why? 581 is the best B6 they have, it must have some SERIOUS mechanical issues  :o

No, not really.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
I see 581 has been withdrawn without ever turning a wheel at WA

Why? 581 is the best B6 they have, it must have some SERIOUS mechanical issues  :o

probably NX have put a financial limit on the B6s for repairs, and it may have exceeded that, or maybe they could just do without it, great shame never the less.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 03, 2013, 08:05:50 PM
Quote from: BN on December 03, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
I see 581 has been withdrawn without ever turning a wheel at WA

Why? 581 is the best B6 they have, it must have some SERIOUS mechanical issues  :o

No, not really.

Is that no to both as I suspect BN? It is not the best, and it has no serious mechanical issues?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BN on December 03, 2013, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2013, 08:05:50 PM
Quote from: BN on December 03, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
I see 581 has been withdrawn without ever turning a wheel at WA

Why? 581 is the best B6 they have, it must have some SERIOUS mechanical issues  :o

No, not really.

Is that no to both as I suspect BN? It is not the best, and it has no serious mechanical issues?

Correct Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: BN on December 03, 2013, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2013, 08:05:50 PM
Quote from: BN on December 03, 2013, 08:00:08 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 03, 2013, 05:14:32 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2013, 04:54:28 PM
I see 581 has been withdrawn without ever turning a wheel at WA

Why? 581 is the best B6 they have, it must have some SERIOUS mechanical issues  :o

No, not really.

Is that no to both as I suspect BN? It is not the best, and it has no serious mechanical issues?

Correct Tony

Surplus to requirements then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
I'd rather see 581 in service compared to 244
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
I'd rather see 581 in service compared to 244

It does make me wonder sometimes, what level of thought goes into vehicle withdrawals. Yet another ridiculous decision from NX.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on December 04, 2013, 06:38:16 AM
I wouldnt say ridiculous because they'll all be withdrawn soon, just a case of 581 meeting its maker, a tad too early, there could be good reason though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on December 04, 2013, 08:27:35 AM
another b6 to bite the dust? no big loss really. maybe if its not that bad, it might go to reserve ready to come back out if another b6 has a major issue etc. maybe also out of walsall's allocation, 581 could be the worst out of the remaining b6's. for example, if wa's engineers have spent £££££'s refurbing replacing major components etc, then take overall condition (not seats/paint job - anyone can make a turd look good) i.e chassis structure, they would hold onto those first over any newly transferred. i know that was explained to me where i used to work on coaches. drivers moaned 2 in better nick, and newer were sold (1992 models) but 1988 were kept. as i was learning on the spanners, my boss showed me the reasons why. older ones were structually better plaxtons, and in the 5 years they had been in the fleet, both had been fitted with new engines. so it then makes sense
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 04, 2013, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
I'd rather see 581 in service compared to 244

It does make me wonder sometimes, what level of thought goes into vehicle withdrawals. Yet another ridiculous decision from NX.

Yet another ridiculous post! You don't know the condition, book value, MoT expiry date, work needed, expected time before major work is needed, and various other factors that are taken into account. Not just whether enthusiasts like the noise it makes. As 581 has spent most of its life doing 16 hour days at Walsall, and 244 has been trundling around Heathrow Airport, I would imagine 244 is much lower mileage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2013, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
I'd rather see 581 in service compared to 244

It does make me wonder sometimes, what level of thought goes into vehicle withdrawals. Yet another ridiculous decision from NX.

Yet another ridiculous post! You don't know the condition, book value, MoT expiry date, work needed, expected time before major work is needed, and various other factors that are taken into account. Not just whether enthusiasts like the noise it makes. As 581 has spent most of its life doing 16 hour days at Walsall, and 244 has been trundling around Heathrow Airport, I would imagine 244 is much lower mileage

Contradicting what "BN" said then? ::)

I have my doubts with NX, I really do.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 04, 2013, 10:51:06 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2013, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
I'd rather see 581 in service compared to 244

It does make me wonder sometimes, what level of thought goes into vehicle withdrawals. Yet another ridiculous decision from NX.

Yet another ridiculous post! You don't know the condition, book value, MoT expiry date, work needed, expected time before major work is needed, and various other factors that are taken into account. Not just whether enthusiasts like the noise it makes. As 581 has spent most of its life doing 16 hour days at Walsall, and 244 has been trundling around Heathrow Airport, I would imagine 244 is much lower mileage

Contradicting what "BN" said then? ::)

I have my doubts with NX, I really do.

Not contradicting what BN said at all! All he said was it had no major issues, but also that is wasn't one of the best. BN will have had no dealings with 244 so doesn't know the condition of that one. Let's just say when 244 came up from London it was given a trial refurbishment with a view to doing the complete batch. That cost around £20,000, one of the reasons why the rest of the batch were not done. When you have spent that amount of money on a bus you are likely to want to get your moneys worth out of it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 04, 2013, 02:30:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2013, 10:51:06 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 10:41:19 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2013, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 04, 2013, 12:01:42 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2013, 10:58:48 PM
I'd rather see 581 in service compared to 244

It does make me wonder sometimes, what level of thought goes into vehicle withdrawals. Yet another ridiculous decision from NX.

Yet another ridiculous post! You don't know the condition, book value, MoT expiry date, work needed, expected time before major work is needed, and various other factors that are taken into account. Not just whether enthusiasts like the noise it makes. As 581 has spent most of its life doing 16 hour days at Walsall, and 244 has been trundling around Heathrow Airport, I would imagine 244 is much lower mileage

Contradicting what "BN" said then? ::)

I have my doubts with NX, I really do.

Not contradicting what BN said at all! All he said was it had no major issues, but also that is wasn't one of the best. BN will have had no dealings with 244 so doesn't know the condition of that one. Let's just say when 244 came up from London it was given a trial refurbishment with a view to doing the complete batch. That cost around £20,000, one of the reasons why the rest of the batch were not done. When you have spent that amount of money on a bus you are likely to want to get your moneys worth out of it

Hence the reason why 244 was fixed after its rta, it still has a high book value.

Oh & Tony, being as you are an Inspector, any chance of ordering some new buses for WA please?  ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 07, 2013, 05:53:29 PM
Any reason why gemini 4680 I think it is has lost its advert frames an a few other bus have lost the adverts ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 07, 2013, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 07, 2013, 05:53:29 PM
Any reason why gemini 4680 I think it is has lost its advert frames an a few other bus have lost the adverts ?

No idea. 4680 did have advert frames on both sides added after repaint (as they are not painted).

I do know 4682 has never had on offside frame added ever since de-branding from the 997, it has a nearside advert frame. All the rest do have advert frames on both sides.

4737's offside advert frame is bent at the bottom towards the rear and has not had an advert for a few months now, it does look tatty without an advert
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on December 07, 2013, 06:12:22 PM

Yet another ridiculous post! You don't know the condition, book value, MoT expiry date, work needed, expected time before major work is needed, and various other factors that are taken into account. Not just whether enthusiasts like the noise it makes. As 581 has spent most of its life doing 16 hour days at Walsall, and 244 has been trundling around Heathrow Airport, I would imagine 244 is much lower mileage
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Have to agree here with Tony; he has explained to me before as to why some of the older B6s in a seemingly better condition (i.e interiors done up well) are withdrawn whilst some of the tattier examples trundle on. It is to do with the structural condition as well, i.e what we can't see underneath the body and the paint. 581 may have severe corrosion and several minor issues with the engine that make it not viable to keep in service. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on December 07, 2013, 08:52:58 PM
244 is one if the nicest B6 to drive. Smooth suspension
Quiet engine noise. I think she's had a better life at heathrow
Smoother road compared to Black Country roads rough.

It wouldn't surprise me if 244 is the last B6 to be withdrawn despite being
The oldest.

Also any news on 4129 not be seen for 4 months since
Accident in July.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 07, 2013, 09:02:46 PM
Yeah I do understand entirely. These buses are getting old, it is to be expected. In the grand scheme of things, 581 outlived most B6s, so it did alright.

This is turning into a euology...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 07, 2013, 11:30:15 PM
It might be 4682, not too sure, seen it a few times on the X51 but never made a note of it. Does look a bit better without adverts on.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 07, 2013, 11:39:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 07, 2013, 11:30:15 PM
It might be 4682, not too sure, seen it a few times on the X51 but never made a note of it. Does look a bit better without adverts on.

4682 definitely has no offside ad frame. There is always the chance 4680 has lost its ads too of course, the person to ask about that is Ashley who saw it on the 6 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on December 08, 2013, 12:34:06 AM
4680 has had its connection bars painted or re panelled over on the offside

4682 has no offside advert frame

4681 and 4683 both look exactly the same from memory

4684 - 6 X51 branded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 08, 2013, 12:35:36 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 08, 2013, 12:34:06 AM
4680 has had its connection bars painted or re panelled over on the offside

4682 has no offside advert frame

4681 and 4683 both look exactly the same from memory

4684 - 6 X51 branded

Did 4680 have adverts when you saw it today Ashley?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 08, 2013, 08:23:56 AM
I saw a Gemini on the 6 yesterday and I'm sure it had adverts
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on December 08, 2013, 10:47:33 AM
4680 was on the 6 John and it has adverts, 4682 was on the 77 and has no offside advert frames
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 08, 2013, 10:54:01 AM
Quote from: Ashley on December 08, 2013, 10:47:33 AM
4680 was on the 6 John and it has adverts, 4682 was on the 77 and has no offside advert frames

Thanks Ashley  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on December 08, 2013, 01:29:13 PM
No worries :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 12, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
4127 was parked in Walsall garage this morning, with 2 drivers in it displaying 126E, Dudley via Roseville.

It had 'College Bus' on the display this afternoon, still parked in the same place
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2013, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: John on December 12, 2013, 04:29:54 PM
4127 was parked in Walsall garage this morning, with 2 drivers in it displaying 126E, Dudley via Roseville.

It had 'College Bus' on the display this afternoon, still parked in the same place

I wonder why a WN route is programmed into a WA bus. Last time I saw something like that was B7RLE 2013 on WN 59 displaying BC's 59 destination
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 13, 2013, 03:26:47 PM
4129 is now repaired, parked outside the paintshop waiting to go in for a repaint
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on December 13, 2013, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: John on December 13, 2013, 03:26:47 PM
4129 is now repaired, parked outside the paintshop waiting to go in for a repaint
m
Good been a long time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 16, 2013, 01:49:18 PM
4769 out on the 7. Is it just me or when there's an E400 on the 7 its 4769 ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
anyone seen 4857 ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
anyone seen 4857 ?

Have you tried the 51?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 19, 2013, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
anyone seen 4857 ?

Have you tried the 51?

I saw it on Saturday I think, certainly in the last week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 19, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
anyone seen 4857 ?

Have you tried the 51?

It's not going to be on the 51 if it's VOR for any reason... I think that's what Nathan was trying to find out, if it's been out recently.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 06:23:06 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on December 19, 2013, 06:20:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 06:05:40 PM
anyone seen 4857 ?

Have you tried the 51?

It's not going to be on the 51 if it's VOR for any reason... I think that's what Nathan was trying to find out, if it's been out recently.

Well sorry! Was just suggesting incase it was in service and Nathan just hadn't spotted it! :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on December 19, 2013, 10:17:23 PM
4129 repainted and back at Walsall after 5 months out of use
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
Not seen in it a while, so just wondered if something had happended to it. But I know its still out an strong. Thanks for the replies guys (:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 19, 2013, 10:17:23 PM
4129 repainted and back at Walsall after 5 months out of use

Will it be in service by tommorow or Saturday?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on December 19, 2013, 10:20:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 19, 2013, 10:17:23 PM
4129 repainted and back at Walsall after 5 months out of use

Will it be in service by tommorow or Saturday?

I'll be going to Walsall tomorrow Nath I'll keep an eye out for it just in case :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on December 19, 2013, 10:24:26 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 19, 2013, 10:20:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 19, 2013, 10:17:23 PM
4129 repainted and back at Walsall after 5 months out of use

Will it be in service by tommorow or Saturday?

I'll be going to Walsall tomorrow Nath I'll keep an eye out for it just in case :)

Give it about a week as soon as I c it ill post it on here
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:24:54 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on December 19, 2013, 10:20:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:19:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 19, 2013, 10:17:23 PM
4129 repainted and back at Walsall after 5 months out of use

Will it be in service by tommorow or Saturday?

I'll be going to Walsall tomorrow Nath I'll keep an eye out for it just in case :)

Thanks for that :) Will look out if it wonders over here to Wednesfield/Wolverhampton area on the 40 or 89 :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 10:30:36 PM
What happened to 4129 ? For it to be out of use for 5months ? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2013, 10:33:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 10:30:36 PM
What happened to 4129 ? For it to be out of use for 5months ?

Accident damage after a head on collision with a car whilst on the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 19, 2013, 10:34:48 PM
Thanks Nath (:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: vinh1000 on December 19, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
I think I had that bus on the 77 today
The mouquet on seats is a lot.different never seen it before
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 20, 2013, 08:41:31 AM
Quote from: vinh1000 on December 19, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
I think I had that bus on the 77 today
The mouquet on seats is a lot.different never seen it before

4128 is the trident with the different seat moquette, It has the same as 4680-4686 from its days as spare bus for the 997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 20, 2013, 02:46:51 PM
4129 now repainted, been cleaned in Walsall today

Plus 1771 off the road due to accident damage to front offside last night
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 20, 2013, 04:26:50 PM
Managed to see 4857 today on the 51 as I was leaving town on the 56  ::) typical
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 21, 2013, 02:24:10 PM
Just curious to what can happen to driver for using his phone whilst driving a bus?. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on December 21, 2013, 02:42:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 21, 2013, 02:24:10 PM
Just curious to what can happen to driver for using his phone whilst driving a bus?. 

Obvious sack. You'll get the sack just for holding it in the cab with the bus isolated now.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 24, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
1446 has had its connection bars removed, and the side logos moved to the place where they are in the recent single decker repaints (not the best of pics, but...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11532441946/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: craighu on December 24, 2013, 03:47:12 PM
1446 looks better for it, cheers John!:-)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 24, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: John on December 24, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
1446 has had its connection bars removed, and the side logos moved to the place where they are in the recent single decker repaints (not the best of pics, but...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11532441946/

I noticed this the other day. It looks as if it has been partially repainted
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 24, 2013, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 24, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: John on December 24, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
1446 has had its connection bars removed, and the side logos moved to the place where they are in the recent single decker repaints (not the best of pics, but...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11532441946/

I noticed this the other day. It looks as if it has been partially repainted

The white does look like a fresh coat. The windows also look like they have been refurbished, with the  lack on 'No Smoking' stickers on them, which they had before
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on December 24, 2013, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: John on December 24, 2013, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 24, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: John on December 24, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
1446 has had its connection bars removed, and the side logos moved to the place where they are in the recent single decker repaints (not the best of pics, but...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11532441946/

I noticed this the other day. It looks as if it has been partially repainted

The white does look like a fresh coat. The windows also look like they have been refurbished, with the  lack on 'No Smoking' stickers on them, which they had before

Looks very smart. Hard to believe the B10Ls are 16 to 17 years old, the design is timeless which is more than can be said for the Mercs. Whilst the Mercs have been decent buses in many respects they certainly ain't easy on the eye.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on December 24, 2013, 11:11:45 PM
Quote from: Mike K on December 24, 2013, 08:19:53 PM
Quote from: John on December 24, 2013, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 24, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: John on December 24, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
1446 has had its connection bars removed, and the side logos moved to the place where they are in the recent single decker repaints (not the best of pics, but...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11532441946/

I noticed this the other day. It looks as if it has been partially repainted

The white does look like a fresh coat. The windows also look like they have been refurbished, with the  lack on 'No Smoking' stickers on them, which they had before

Looks very smart. Hard to believe the B10Ls are 16 to 17 years old, the design is timeless which is more than can be said for the Mercs. Whilst the Mercs have been decent buses in many respects they certainly ain't easy on the eye.

You can't fault the Wright Liberator bodywork, it has aged extremely well. The B10L's still look far more modern than their years especially the last of the batch that were refurbished.

The Mercs are very boxlike / square looking, they have certainly served the West Midlands well, but they are dropping like flys much quicker than the Volvo/Wright counterparts have. Have any any B10L's ever sustained fire damage? I can't think of any instances.....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on December 25, 2013, 12:01:22 AM
There have never been any B10L fires I don't think. The only one thats ever been badly damaged is 1425 when it had it's accident back in 2011. Apart from that they've done well considering they weren't expected to see 2014
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 25, 2013, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 24, 2013, 04:06:43 PM
Quote from: John on December 24, 2013, 03:28:30 PM
1446 has had its connection bars removed, and the side logos moved to the place where they are in the recent single decker repaints (not the best of pics, but...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/11532441946/

I noticed this the other day. It looks as if it has been partially repainted

When we visited Walsall, i noticed on the board that 1446 was shown as being at Carlyle Bus & Coach.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 26, 2013, 04:56:38 PM
The 89 has been B7RLE operated today (1754 was one of the two buses)

I seem to remember the 89/301/2 were fully dd operated last year on Boxing Day?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 26, 2013, 05:01:04 PM
4680 out on the 10/77 making a grinding noise, didn't sound to healthy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 26, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 26, 2013, 05:01:04 PM
4680 out on the 10/77 making a grinding noise, didn't sound to healthy

Thought those routes would have operated with B7RLE's like Sundays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on December 26, 2013, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 26, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 26, 2013, 05:01:04 PM
4680 out on the 10/77 making a grinding noise, didn't sound to healthy

Thought those routes would have operated with B7RLE's like Sundays

Probably didn't wanna risk a single on the 77 with Boxing Day shoppers travelling between Sutton & Walsall. Would I be right assuming the 6 was dd today too?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 26, 2013, 09:39:50 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on December 26, 2013, 09:36:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 26, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 26, 2013, 05:01:04 PM
4680 out on the 10/77 making a grinding noise, didn't sound to healthy

Thought those routes would have operated with B7RLE's like Sundays

Probably didn't wanna risk a single on the 77 with Boxing Day shoppers travelling between Sutton & Walsall. Would I be right assuming the 6 was dd today too?

Yes 6 interworks with the 10/77 so 4680/2,4737 and 4776 were the buses on there today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on December 27, 2013, 10:05:46 AM
Nice to see 4737 back in her home town.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 28, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
244 out on the 38 today, left Wednesbury about 11:45.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on December 28, 2013, 04:01:24 PM
Saw 4136 out of service outside of the 5 stop (outside the Bingo place) in Kingstanding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 06:42:07 PM
Oohh 244 is still well? Never to be found when I'm in Walsall =D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on December 28, 2013, 07:53:31 PM
Nathan4775, your not missing a thing with regard to 244 as many will know my opinion of it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 28, 2013, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 28, 2013, 07:53:31 PM
Nathan4775, your not missing a thing with regard to 244 as many will know my opinion of it

Agreed!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Just missing a photo;), last B6 I need at WA.

Also 1896 I think it is the recently refurb ominilink was on the 4 today. First time I've seen it come off the 311/3 since refurb
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 28, 2013, 11:14:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on December 28, 2013, 10:56:53 PM
Just missing a photo;), last B6 I need at WA.

Also 1896 I think it is the recently refurb ominilink was on the 4 today. First time I've seen it come off the 311/3 since refurb

Yes its 1896 Nath :) I've seen it on several services including the 301 and 4H
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 29, 2013, 01:00:14 AM
One of the Ommilinks (1885 I think?) is missing part of its fleet name on the drivers side.

Isn't there a Gem dd missing a fleet name too ISTR?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 29, 2013, 10:35:18 AM
Quote from: Westy on December 29, 2013, 01:00:14 AM
One of the Ommilinks (1885 I think?) is missing part of its fleet name on the drivers side.

Isn't there a Gem dd missing a fleet name too ISTR?

Yes, 1885 is missing the 'National' of its offside logo, and 4685 is missing an offside logo
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 31, 2013, 03:50:58 PM
Spotted another today.

1750 on the Brownhills route in Walsall Bus Station.

Before it gained the correct fleetnames, it used to have the white on red 'West Midlands part of National Express' stickers.

That fleetname is showing through the red paint on the nearside.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 37351ml on December 31, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
This evenings x56 didn't bother to observe the moor st queensway stop, just shot straight past at 17.36 in the outside lane showing "not in service" Luckily i was able get the x51 instead....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on December 31, 2013, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: 37351ml on December 31, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
This evenings x56 didn't bother to observe the moor st queensway stop, just shot straight past at 17.36 in the outside lane showing "not in service" Luckily i was able get the x51 instead....

What type of vehicle was it, a B7RLE?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 31, 2013, 08:43:20 PM
Quote from: Matt on December 31, 2013, 06:50:31 PM
Quote from: 37351ml on December 31, 2013, 06:38:48 PM
This evenings x56 didn't bother to observe the moor st queensway stop, just shot straight past at 17.36 in the outside lane showing "not in service" Luckily i was able get the x51 instead....

What type of vehicle was it, a B7RLE?

B7 1781 matt  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on January 04, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
I had 934/05 on the first journey today? How come it wasn't 934/01? Just curious ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on January 04, 2014, 08:33:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 04, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
I had 934/05 on the first journey today? How come it wasn't 934/01? Just curious ?

It's a mystery! Most WA routes are numbered in terms of the bus leaving depot (Other companies number them so 1 is followed by 2, which is followed by 3 etc.)
All other WA 934 boards are in such an order, with 935/05 mixed in the middle! I can only assume that maybe the first round trip was added in last minute/have swapped boards since introduction?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on January 04, 2014, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: notepanel on January 04, 2014, 08:33:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 04, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
I had 934/05 on the first journey today? How come it wasn't 934/01? Just curious ?

It's a mystery! Most WA routes are numbered in terms of the bus leaving depot (Other companies number them so 1 is followed by 2, which is followed by 3 etc.)
All other WA 934 boards are in such an order, with 935/05 mixed in the middle! I can only assume that maybe the first round trip was added in last minute/have swapped boards since introduction?

It could of ran dead to pick up service before 1/2/3/4 boards? Or something to do with the duties
It was the same thing for BC BR - Duty 4 - 63/04 started before duty 1 & 63/01!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JoNi on January 04, 2014, 09:21:22 PM
Sometimes buses do other routes before taking up route they belong to or a minor timetable revision to early journies that does not effect the main core of the timetable.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 04, 2014, 09:54:00 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on January 04, 2014, 08:58:34 PM
Quote from: notepanel on January 04, 2014, 08:33:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 04, 2014, 05:59:22 PM
I had 934/05 on the first journey today? How come it wasn't 934/01? Just curious ?

It's a mystery! Most WA routes are numbered in terms of the bus leaving depot (Other companies number them so 1 is followed by 2, which is followed by 3 etc.)
All other WA 934 boards are in such an order, with 935/05 mixed in the middle! I can only assume that maybe the first round trip was added in last minute/have swapped boards since introduction?

It could of ran dead to pick up service before 1/2/3/4 boards? Or something to do with the duties
It was the same thing for BC BR - Duty 4 - 63/04 started before duty 1 & 63/01!

It sometimes happens when the boards are first drawn up, then Centro put a small tender out which is added on to the front of a later board after the initial plans
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on January 07, 2014, 09:43:39 PM
4682 spent the day on the X51, then seen it on the 997 at about 17:40 ? Carnt remember if the 997/X51 interwork
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 08, 2014, 11:14:21 AM
predictably enough... Now the X51 is supposed to have changed routes in the city centre back to the old route, all the ones I've caught so far have still gone up Newton St and stopped there... Not complaining cause that bus stop is more useful for me, lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on January 08, 2014, 08:42:19 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 07, 2014, 09:43:39 PM
4682 spent the day on the X51, then seen it on the 997 at about 17:40 ? Carnt remember if the 997/X51 interwork

They sort of do.

Running boards X51/01 & X51/02 operate the 997/E in the morning peak, before switching on to the X51 for the remainder of the day. 
Running board X51/04 operates the X51 all day, before switching to the 997/E in the evening peak.
Running board 997/03 operates the 997/E all day, before switching on to the X51 in the evening peak.
Running board 997/06 operates the X51 in the morning peak, before switching to the 997/E all day before operating the 1915 X51 back from Birmingham.
Running board 997/07 operates the X51 in the morning peak before switching to the 997/E

All route changes take place in Birmingham.

Of note, there are also two morning peak boards on the 934/5/6, that operate back into Walsall from Birmingham as X51s.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on January 08, 2014, 09:31:38 PM
Thanks NotePanel(: much appreciated.


4137 - 302 but swapped with 1883, an 1755 on the 29 an swapped with 1903.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on January 08, 2014, 11:53:36 PM
Rain got into 4735, replaced with 4771 in Aldridge
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 16, 2014, 06:15:58 PM
4735 on the 40/1 today. Saw it on the 15:17 40 from Wolverhampton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 17, 2014, 06:54:12 PM
There was an Omnilink on the 39 today which I never managed to catch the fleet number of in Wolverhampton Bus Station this afternoon about 16:20. Omnilinks are starting to appear more regually now particually on that board

1430 was again on WA69/03

4733 was on the 89 alongside 4126/3 and 4309. The 89 is usually only allocated 2 tridents.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 21, 2014, 08:49:12 PM
For once board W69/03 wasn't allocated 1430 today. I caught 1753 on that board today (15:25 departure from Wolverhampton). Either it was having work done in the garage or it spent a day on another route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on January 21, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Before 1430 was regully allocated to W69-03 this board most likely to be a B7RLE

1430 was on a peak time working of 77 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 21, 2014, 09:32:52 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 21, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Before 1430 was regully allocated to W69-03 this board most likely to be a B7RLE

1430 was on a peak time working of 77 today

Have the allocations changed again? 1430 was on its usual W69/03 board yesterday. Up till November/Early December this was usually a B7RLE anyway
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 22, 2014, 08:52:55 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 21, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Before 1430 was regully allocated to W69-03 this board most likely to be a B7RLE

1430 was on a peak time working of 77 today

1430 is back to its usual board W69/03 again. Saw it on the 15:25 69 from Wolverhampton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on January 22, 2014, 11:16:46 PM
A question for lynx1103 or anybody at Walsall who may know. I'm pretty sure a B10L does a trip on the 77 most weekdays. Is that the case and if so what are the departure times?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 21, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Before 1430 was regully allocated to W69-03 this board most likely to be a B7RLE

1430 was on a peak time working of 77 today

It appears 1430 has been put back onto W69/03 every weekday again.It worked the board yesterday and today after having a break on Tuesday (1753 was on W69/03 on Tuesday). Will this allocation to the board stay the same from Sunday when the changes on into effect (Well Mon as the 69 doesn't operate on Sun)?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 09:57:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 09:51:30 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 21, 2014, 09:27:32 PM
Before 1430 was regully allocated to W69-03 this board most likely to be a B7RLE

1430 was on a peak time working of 77 today

It appears 1430 has been put back onto W69/03 every weekday again.It worked the board yesterday and today after having a break on Tuesday (1753 was on W69/03 on Tuesday). Will this allocation to the board stay the same from Sunday when the changes on into effect (Well Mon as the 69 does operate on Sun)?

Been thinking about this, 1430 sticking to this board is nothing to do with the tall driver who works for WA, i know 669 has to be alloocated to one board because its the only bus that he can drive, is 1430 on the 2nd half of his duty or am i barking up the wrong tree.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
No W69/03 regually has different drivers each day Stu :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
No W69/03 regually has different drivers each day Stu :)

just a thought  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
No W69/03 regually has different drivers each day Stu :)

just a thought  ::) ::) ::)

Oh Sorry Stu :( I wasn't saying it in a nasty way :( Was just answering your question.that's all,Sorry :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:16:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
No W69/03 regually has different drivers each day Stu :)

just a thought  ::) ::) ::)

Oh Sorry Stu :( I wasn't saying it in a nasty way :( Was just answering your question.that's all,Sorry :(

Nothing to be sorry for Nathan, it was just a thought!  :) :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 10:22:22 PM
Ok Stu ;) I looked at the emoticons you used and took it wrong ;) Well that board had B7RLE's during the week up till November and going back tridents and even the 468* ex 997 Gmini's were daily on that board. 4764 did W69/03 once too!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on January 23, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
No W69/03 regually has different drivers each day Stu :)

just a thought  ::) ::) ::)

You never know, could be a driver doing the same shift in the middle of the day each day, I don't know whether there would be any difference between 1430 and other B10Ls though. A wild guess, but if WA had a driver who struggles with operating the roller blinds, they might ensure he always has a bus with Hanovers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 10:36:05 PM
Its a possibility although whenever I see it during the day say in half term holidays,It still different drivers on the same journeys each day (09:25,11:25,13:25,15:25) but I could see your point possibly being a very possible explanation
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:38:04 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 23, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
No W69/03 regually has different drivers each day Stu :)

just a thought  ::) ::) ::)

You never know, could be a driver doing the same shift in the middle of the day each day, I don't know whether there would be any difference between 1430 and other B10Ls though. A wild guess, but if WA had a driver who struggles with operating the roller blinds, they might ensure he always has a bus with Hanovers

You could be right there Matt, as when 1430 wasn't used earlier this week, they didn't substitute another B10L, they used a B7.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 10:39:41 PM
I suppose someone like Lynx1103 could answer a question such as that? But B6's and Other B10's have appeared on the same board various times. Plus as I am aware it isn't just a particular driver on the duty and I would imagine the drivers on the Willenhall Rota will be on boards on the 69 that use the B10's with roller blind but as you said its a possibility and the only person who could answer the question is a member from NX (Particually WA Garage). It will be interesting to find out the reason behind 1430 being on W69/03 all of the time as it has been bugging me for some time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on January 23, 2014, 10:42:38 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:38:04 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 23, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
No W69/03 regually has different drivers each day Stu :)

just a thought  ::) ::) ::)

You never know, could be a driver doing the same shift in the middle of the day each day, I don't know whether there would be any difference between 1430 and other B10Ls though. A wild guess, but if WA had a driver who struggles with operating the roller blinds, they might ensure he always has a bus with Hanovers

You could be right there Matt, as when 1430 wasn't used earlier this week, they didn't substitute another B10L, they used a B7.

I'm probably not right, but it could be something along those lines, given 1430 has that one major difference to WA's other B10Ls, being all Hanover/no paper
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on January 23, 2014, 11:06:05 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 23, 2014, 10:42:38 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:38:04 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 23, 2014, 10:29:55 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2014, 10:02:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
No W69/03 regually has different drivers each day Stu :)

just a thought  ::) ::) ::)

You never know, could be a driver doing the same shift in the middle of the day each day, I don't know whether there would be any difference between 1430 and other B10Ls though. A wild guess, but if WA had a driver who struggles with operating the roller blinds, they might ensure he always has a bus with Hanovers

You could be right there Matt, as when 1430 wasn't used earlier this week, they didn't substitute another B10L, they used a B7.

I'm probably not right, but it could be something along those lines, given 1430 has that one major difference to WA's other B10Ls, being all Hanover/no paper

A large chunk of running board W69/03 is covered by duty 9540, which is a special duty outside of normal rotas. I'm not sure if this is a fixed line duty, but it involves operating board W41/07 on the 705 school service, then board 311/04 operating a return journey on the 311 before taking over W69/03 from 1419 until end of service.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 11:08:10 PM
Thanks for that Notepanel :) Now I finally know why 1430 is always on that particular board ;)

Sometime earlier this week there were a total of 5 double deckers on the 8/89. Is this how many are usually allocated as I know there are two boards that are always trident/E400 operated. There are at least 3 boards that are dd today it 4308,4733 and 4874 all on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on January 23, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
Can't think of no reason for 1430 to be allocated to the same board unless

The last journey from Walsall at 1835 only runs to New Invention
On manuel blinds display New Invention via Bentley

It's good if you're looking for 1430 you'll know where to find it.

Regarding 77 B10L

On the odd ocasstion peak time board

77-06 leaves garage at 1425 and does

1440 Walsall
1525 Sutton
1620 Walsall
1710 Sutton
1750 Walsall

This board occasionally has B10L allocated this week

Tuesday 1430
Wednesday 1453
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 23, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
Can't think of no reason for 1430 to be allocated to the same board unless

CCTV only on 1430/1436/1446
The last journey from Walsall at 1835 only runs to New Invention
On manuel blinds display New Invention via Bentley

It's good if you're looking for 1430 you'll know where to find it.

Regarding 77 B10L

On the odd ocasstion peak time board

77-06 leaves garage at 1425 and does

1440 Walsall
1525 Sutton
1620 Walsall
1710 Sutton
1750 Walsall

This board occasionally has B10L allocated this week

Tuesday 1430
Wednesday 1453

I have noticed sometimes drivers on the 69 use the blinds Wolverhampton Via Darlaston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on January 23, 2014, 11:33:47 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 23, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
The last journey from Walsall at 1835 only runs to New Invention
On manuel blinds display New Invention via Bentley

This seems a likely theory, perhaps board W69/03 is kept to vehicles with Hanovers where possible as the paper blinds would not have a suitable display for the final journey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 23, 2014, 11:37:54 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 23, 2014, 11:33:47 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 23, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
The last journey from Walsall at 1835 only runs to New Invention
On manuel blinds display New Invention via Bentley

This seems a likely theory, perhaps board W69/03 is kept to vehicles with Hanovers where possible as the paper blinds would not have a suitable display for the final journey

Does Wednesfield feature on the blinds of WA Vehicles? Reason I ask is because one of the last few journeys on the 69 will now terminate at Wednesfield instead of Wolverhampton. The board which covers that journey is a B10L mosrt of the time uncles they allocate B7's to the board now so it is programmed in n the LED display?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 24, 2014, 06:49:02 AM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 11:37:54 PM
Quote from: Matt on January 23, 2014, 11:33:47 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 23, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
The last journey from Walsall at 1835 only runs to New Invention
On manuel blinds display New Invention via Bentley

This seems a likely theory, perhaps board W69/03 is kept to vehicles with Hanovers where possible as the paper blinds would not have a suitable display for the final journey

Does Wednesfield feature on the blinds of WA Vehicles? Reason I ask is because one of the last few journeys on the 69 will now terminate at Wednesfield instead of Wolverhampton. The board which covers that journey is a B10L mosrt of the time uncles they allocate B7's to the board now so it is programmed in n the LED display?

Don't think Walsall have ever run only to Wednesfield.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 24, 2014, 08:08:43 AM
You may find that they programme it into the Dot Matrix/LED Displays so I think they may allocate B7's,Omnilink,tridents etc to the board.

Also I have just heard that Services 10/A and 159 are being diverted in the Walsall Wood area due to a serious accident
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on January 24, 2014, 08:35:42 AM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 23, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
Can't think of no reason for 1430 to be allocated to the same board unless

CCTV only on 1430/1436/1446
The last journey from Walsall at 1835 only runs to New Invention
On manuel blinds display New Invention via Bentley

It's good if you're looking for 1430 you'll know where to find it.

Regarding 77 B10L

On the odd ocasstion peak time board

77-06 leaves garage at 1425 and does

1440 Walsall
1525 Sutton
1620 Walsall
1710 Sutton
1750 Walsall

This board occasionally has B10L allocated this week

Tuesday 1430
Wednesday 1453

There's no Wednesfield on manuel blinds unless its added over the weekends
On most B10Ls there is no destination for 69 34 38 39
As the ones that do have them

Eg

34 Bilston then to Stowlan the number blind for this is 61B which is
Extension most of the time buses display Bilston via Darlaston

I have noticed sometimes drivers on the 69 use the blinds Wolverhampton Via Darlaston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 24, 2014, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 23, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
Can't think of no reason for 1430 to be allocated to the same board unless

The last journey from Walsall at 1835 only runs to New Invention
On manuel blinds display New Invention via Bentley

It's good if you're looking for 1430 you'll know where to find it.

Regarding 77 B10L

On the odd ocasstion peak time board

77-06 leaves garage at 1425 and does

1440 Walsall
1525 Sutton
1620 Walsall
1710 Sutton
1750 Walsall

This board occasionally has B10L allocated this week

Tuesday 1430
Wednesday 1453

I have noticed sometimes drivers on the 69 use the blinds Wolverhampton Via Darlaston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 24, 2014, 04:55:54 PM
1430 is on the 69 today but on another board. 1433 is on WA69/03 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 24, 2014, 05:32:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 24, 2014, 02:29:04 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 23, 2014, 11:32:20 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 23, 2014, 11:15:06 PM
Can't think of no reason for 1430 to be allocated to the same board unless

The last journey from Walsall at 1835 only runs to New Invention
On manuel blinds display New Invention via Bentley

It's good if you're looking for 1430 you'll know where to find it.

Regarding 77 B10L

On the odd ocasstion peak time board

77-06 leaves garage at 1425 and does

1440 Walsall
1525 Sutton
1620 Walsall
1710 Sutton
1750 Walsall

This board occasionally has B10L allocated this week

Tuesday 1430
Wednesday 1453

I have noticed sometimes drivers on the 69 use the blinds Wolverhampton Via Darlaston

Don't they angle the blind so only Wolverhampton is showing?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 24, 2014, 06:07:22 PM
Yes that's wat I meant :) Thanks.  Although Some drivers don't roll the blind enough so sometimes you can fully see darlaston on the blind
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 25, 2014, 10:29:05 AM
Anyone still after 244? It is on the 336 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 31, 2014, 06:41:00 PM
Seen 1419 going down the Black Country Route towards Willenhll Out Of Service early this afternoon. Saw 1419 later on working the 69 running very late alongside 1446
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on January 31, 2014, 09:27:27 PM
The 69/40 reliability has worsened since the
Re-routing of thease services.

69 today's was up to 30 mins late
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 31, 2014, 09:44:49 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on January 31, 2014, 09:27:27 PM
The 69/40 reliability has worsened since the
Re-routing of thease services.

69 today's was up to 30 mins late

And tbh I have noticed a decrease in the number of passengers since it was rerouted away from the Bus Station/Linthouse Lane. I would like to see them reinstate the Linthouse Lane section as that's where a lot of the passengers got off from Wolverhampton/Wednesfield. Also I would reroute it to serve the station but leave the City Centre via Queen St/Broad St
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 31, 2014, 10:31:52 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 31, 2014, 09:44:49 PM
And tbh I have noticed a decrease in the number of passengers since it was rerouted away from the Bus Station/Linthouse Lane. I would like to see them reinstate the Linthouse Lane section as that's where a lot of the passengers got off from Wolverhampton/Wednesfield. Also I would reroute it to serve the station but leave the City Centre via Queen St/Broad St

Personally, if the Linthouse Lane section was where a lot of passengers used the route, then I would expect NX to realise this and make sure a route of some sort went that way. But that should just be a route from Wolves/Wednesfield, not the 69 all the way through to Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 03, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
So how's this cat then, that was found on the 301, according to Danny Scouser on BBC WM today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on February 03, 2014, 06:34:42 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 03, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
So how's this cat then, that was found on the 301, according to Danny Scouser on BBC WM today?

Purr-fectly fine!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on February 08, 2014, 10:57:23 AM
Bentley Lane's closed by police on 69 route. 69's following 41 route to Stroud Avenue then 9 route, turned left onto 40 route, right onto Sandbeds Road, then onto High Road rejoining original route. That's the best description I can give sorry lol.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on February 08, 2014, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: Matt on February 08, 2014, 10:57:23 AM
Bentley Lane's closed by police on 69 route. 69's following 41 route to Stroud Avenue then 9 route, turned left onto 40 route, right onto Sandbeds Road, then onto High Road rejoining original route. That's the best description I can give sorry lol.

I quite like that new route! It would give passengers in Bentley an enhanced frequency to Walsall, whilst also providing new links for Stroud Avenue & Bentley to Reedswood Sainsbury's, Wednesfield & New Cross Hospital. Being controversial, you could possibly get away with scrapping the 40 if the 69 were to be re-routed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 10, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
4773 on a back of a Mansfield on Bloxwich Road now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on February 10, 2014, 03:30:22 PM
One of the 934/5/6 branded environs has had the front upstairs window replaced & has llost it's "FAST between" on the window
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on February 11, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is/are there any particular routes that 244 appears on regularly? Want to try and get it tomorrow......
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 11, 2014, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 11, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is/are there any particular routes that 244 appears on regularly? Want to try and get it tomorrow......

Your best bets are the 335/6,34/8/9 or the 70/70A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on February 11, 2014, 05:06:09 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 11, 2014, 05:02:31 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 11, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is/are there any particular routes that 244 appears on regularly? Want to try and get it tomorrow......

Your best bets are the 335/6,34/8/9 or the 70/70A

Thanks :-)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on February 11, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 11, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is/are there any particular routes that 244 appears on regularly? Want to try and get it tomorrow......

Does anybody know if 244 still appears on the College Bus duty, or is that solely in the hands of 4127, 4128, 4737 & 4774? now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on February 11, 2014, 05:14:34 PM
244 mostly to be found on the college contracts or the 70A. Not as regular anywhere else
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 11, 2014, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: notepanel on February 11, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 11, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is/are there any particular routes that 244 appears on regularly? Want to try and get it tomorrow......

Does anybody know if 244 still appears on the College Bus duty, or is that solely in the hands of 4127, 4128, 4737 & 4774? now?

Do you mean 4776 Note panel? 4774 is just a regular service bus (On the 89 last night)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 11, 2014, 05:20:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 11, 2014, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: notepanel on February 11, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 11, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is/are there any particular routes that 244 appears on regularly? Want to try and get it tomorrow......

Does anybody know if 244 still appears on the College Bus duty, or is that solely in the hands of 4127, 4128, 4737 & 4774? now?

Do you mean 4776 Note panel? 4774 is just a regular service bus (On the 89 last night)

Has 4737 got a taco then?

4776 is used on there as well, I guess why notepanel put a ? next to 4774
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 11, 2014, 10:34:01 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 10, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
4773 on a back of a Mansfield on Bloxwich Road now.

4736 was also on a tow truck on Birmingham road heading towards Walsall last night!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 11, 2014, 11:06:28 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on February 11, 2014, 10:34:01 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 10, 2014, 12:34:20 PM
4773 on a back of a Mansfield on Bloxwich Road now.

4736 was also on a tow truck on Birmingham road heading towards Walsall last night!

That must be the one I passed twice on Bull Street yesterday. I knew it was a 473* Enviro400 but couldn't remember which
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on February 12, 2014, 12:00:50 AM
Quote from: John on February 11, 2014, 05:20:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 11, 2014, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: notepanel on February 11, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 11, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is/are there any particular routes that 244 appears on regularly? Want to try and get it tomorrow......

Does anybody know if 244 still appears on the College Bus duty, or is that solely in the hands of 4127, 4128, 4737 & 4774? now?

Do you mean 4776 Note panel? 4774 is just a regular service bus (On the 89 last night)



Has 4737 got a taco then?

4776 is used on there as well, I guess why notepanel put a ? next to 4774

College bus

N01 choice is 4776
Reserve 4128 244

If you're looking for 244 best to come out on a Saturday.

Or college holidays Easter.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 13, 2014, 05:03:56 PM
On the double deckers, can they make the font smaller when they display Willenhall 40, as it looks cramped in my opinion?

Dunno about the single decks as I only saw it on a Trident yesterday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on February 14, 2014, 10:28:54 AM
1883 is on loan to Perry Barr today having a day on the 94
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on February 14, 2014, 12:12:57 PM
Quote from: John on February 11, 2014, 05:20:06 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 11, 2014, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: notepanel on February 11, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 11, 2014, 04:51:17 PM
Is/are there any particular routes that 244 appears on regularly? Want to try and get it tomorrow......

Does anybody know if 244 still appears on the College Bus duty, or is that solely in the hands of 4127, 4128, 4737 & 4774? now?

Do you mean 4776 Note panel? 4774 is just a regular service bus (On the 89 last night)

Has 4737 got a taco then?

4776 is used on there as well, I guess why notepanel put a ? next to 4774

Yes that's correct about 4774 - I knew it was one of them!

4737 was on the 159C the other morning - which is supposedly on one of the college boards. I also noticed it had a first aid kit, similar to the ones on 4127/4128 on board, so wondered if this was fitted with a tacho?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 15, 2014, 11:39:14 AM
244 out on Darlaston services today for those still after it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 15, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 11:39:14 AM
244 out on Darlaston services today for those still after it

Just saw 244 past me by Darlaston Bus Station at 11:43am. It is serving 39 to Wolverhampton. I assume it would arrive in Wolverhampton at 12:08pm and would depart at 12:16pm.

On a funny note, hope 244 won't break down again like last time. 😂
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on February 15, 2014, 11:51:59 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 15, 2014, 11:47:11 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 11:39:14 AM
244 out on Darlaston services today for those still after it

Just saw 244 past me by Darlaston Bus Station at 11:43am. It is serving 39 to Wolverhampton. I assume it would arrive in Wolverhampton at 12:08pm and would depart at 12:16pm.

On a funny note, hope 244 won't break down again like last time. 😂

If I get a chance I shall pop out providing its still out when I get a chance to go out (:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 15, 2014, 06:24:44 PM
1883 has been parked in Perry Barr garage today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 08:09:18 PM
Please check my Walsall fleetlist and make me aware of any problems. I've consulted with Tony's but I don't know if there has been any changes.

Volvo B6
Volvo B10L
Volvo B7RLE
Scania Omnilink
Dennis Trident
Gemini
Enviro400
244
1419
1750
1848
4125
4680
4733
547
1421
1751
1849
4126
4681
4734
582
1430
1752
1850
4127
4682
4735
669
1431
1753
1851
4128
4683
4736
673
1433
1754
1852
4129
4684
4737
677
1434
1755
1853
4130
4685
4763

1436
1756
1854
4131
4686
4764

1438
1757
1855
4132

4765

1439
1758
1856
4133

4766

1440
1759
1857
4134

4767

1446
1760
1858
4136

4768

1453
1761
1859
4137

4769

1454
1762
1860
4138

4770

1459
1763
1861
4305

4771

1474
1764
1862
4306

4772

1475
1765
1878
4307

4773

1477
1766
1879
4308

4774

1479
1767
1880
4309

4775


1768
1881
4329

4776


1769
1882
4330

4857


1770
1883
4331

4858


1771
1884
4332

4859


1772
1885


4860


1773
1886


4861


1774
1887


4862


1775
1888


4863


1776
1889


4864


1777
1890


4865


1778
1891


4866


1779
1892


4867


1780
1893


4868


1781
1894


4869


1782
1895


4870


1783
1896


4871


1784
1897


4872


1785
1898


4873


1786
1899


4874


1787
1900


4875



1901


4876



1902


4877



1903


4878



1904


4879






4880






4881






4882






4883






4884
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on February 15, 2014, 08:12:48 PM


Just missed out 669 and 673 LS. Other than that everything is there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 08:22:22 PM
Thank you Ashley, it's appreciated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 15, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 08:22:22 PM
Thank you Ashley, it's appreciated.

And I photographed both of them today! they were the two buses on the Alumwell Circulars
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 08:25:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 15, 2014, 08:24:00 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on February 15, 2014, 08:22:22 PM
Thank you Ashley, it's appreciated.

And I photographed both of them today! they were the two buses on the Alumwell Circulars

Next thing I'll be reading palms and telling you what the rare workings would be for next week! Great coincidence ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Christopher on February 15, 2014, 10:53:49 PM
586 on 47 at wednesbury aprox 13:59
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 15, 2014, 10:58:38 PM
Thought Walsall had more Gem DDs than 7?

Did they gain some then lose some?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: filbus1 on February 15, 2014, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 15, 2014, 10:58:38 PM
Thought Walsall had more Gem DDs than 7?

Did they gain some then lose some?
Did they have some of the ex AG ones for a while before they went to WB?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on February 15, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
Quote from: filbus1 on February 15, 2014, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 15, 2014, 10:58:38 PM
Thought Walsall had more Gem DDs than 7?

Did they gain some then lose some?
Did they have some of the ex AG ones for a while before they went to WB?

WA had three former PB examples (4489 & 4490 were two, I'm not sure of the other!) for a brief period in Summer 2010 (I believe July-August). These returned to PB after their stint at WA.

4523/4/5/7/8/31 all came to WA from AG during April/May 2010 and then also left to Perry Barr in August 2010, with the exception of 4531 which was done up and remained at WA until July 2011. Later these moved on to WB.

The August swap was to enable WA to regain the OmniLinks it lost to Perry Barr in the July following the LH closure and associated move arounds. I believe this may have had something to do with converting the 907 to single deck operation and quickly reverting it back.

The July PB-WA swap was a three way swap, which I believe involved a three way swap between WA-PB-BC involving Tridents, Gems & ALX400 B7s.

I believe originally, the AG Gems moving to WA was associated with an increased use of Double Decks following the North Walsall review.



Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 15, 2014, 11:27:03 PM
Quote from: Christopher on February 15, 2014, 10:53:49 PM
586 on 47 at wednesbury aprox 13:59

What does this have to do with WA? The 47 is a WB route and 586 is infact a WN bus so are you sure it was 586?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Christopher on February 15, 2014, 11:28:34 PM
Not sure is it was 566 or 586
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Christopher on February 15, 2014, 11:57:18 PM
It was 566
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 16, 2014, 07:56:23 AM
Quote from: notepanel on February 15, 2014, 11:18:46 PM
Quote from: filbus1 on February 15, 2014, 11:03:53 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 15, 2014, 10:58:38 PM
Thought Walsall had more Gem DDs than 7?

Did they gain some then lose some?
Did they have some of the ex AG ones for a while before they went to WB?

WA had three former PB examples (4489 & 4490 were two, I'm not sure of the other!) for a brief period in Summer 2010 (I believe July-August). These returned to PB after their stint at WA.

4523/4/5/7/8/31 all came to WA from AG during April/May 2010 and then also left to Perry Barr in August 2010, with the exception of 4531 which was done up and remained at WA until July 2011. Later these moved on to WB.

The August swap was to enable WA to regain the OmniLinks it lost to Perry Barr in the July following the LH closure and associated move arounds. I believe this may have had something to do with converting the 907 to single deck operation and quickly reverting it back.

The July PB-WA swap was a three way swap, which I believe involved a three way swap between WA-PB-BC involving Tridents, Gems & ALX400 B7s.

I believe originally, the AG Gems moving to WA was associated with an increased use of Double Decks following the North Walsall review.

The other Gemini to transfer to Walsall was 4488. Yes the plan was to convert the 907 to single deck operation, which as you said was a huge failure resulting in 7 of the 10 OmnLinks transferring back to Walsall the next month (I've always wondered whe 1905-7 stayed at Perry Barr)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on February 16, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
Does anyone know the running boards of the Evening 934/935A/51 were they interwork, thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Christopher on February 16, 2014, 06:04:34 PM
doesn't it tell you on the timetable
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on February 16, 2014, 06:34:52 PM
Quote from: Christopher on February 16, 2014, 06:04:34 PM
doesn't it tell you on the timetable

Na, it only gives you the times its due to arrive at the stops
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on February 16, 2014, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 16, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
Does anyone know the running boards of the Evening 934/935A/51 were they interwork, thanks

On weekdays...
Board 51/10
X56 0640 ex Foley Arms
51 0726 ex Birmingham
51 0815 ex Walsall
51 0912 ex Birmingham
51 1005 ex Walsall
51 1055 ex Birmingham
51 1149 ex Walsall
51 1239 ex Birmingham
51 1334 ex Walsall
51 1424 ex Birmingham
51 1518 ex Walsall
51 1611 ex Birmingham
51 1709 ex Walsall
51 1805 ex Birmingham
51 1857 ex Walsall
934 1947 ex Birmingham
934 2021 ex Pheasey
934 2047 ex Birmingham
934 2121 ex Pheasey
51 2147 ex Birmingham
51 2237 ex Walsall
51 2317 ex Birmingham

Board 51/12
51 0745 ex Walsall
51 0840 ex Birmingham
51 0941 ex Walsall
51 1031 ex Birmingham
51 1125 ex Walsall
51 1215 ex Birmingham
51 1309 ex Walsall
51 1359 ex Birmingham
51 1453 ex Walsall
51 1545 ex Birmingham
51 1644 ex Walsall
51 1739 ex Birmingham
51 1841 ex Walsall
51 1932 ex Birmingham
51 2037 ex Walsall
935A 2117 ex Birmingham
935A 2217 ex Brownhills West
935A 2317 ex Birmingham

Board 51/14
40 0640 ex Walsall
40 0728 ex Wolverhampton
51 0840 ex Walsall
51 0936 ex Birmingham
51 1029 ex Walsall
51 1119 ex Birmingham
51 1213 ex Walsall
51 1303 ex Birmingham
51 1358 ex Walsall
51 1448 ex Birmingham
51 1542 ex Walsall
51 1635 ex Birmingham
51 1739 ex Walsall
51 1835 ex Birmingham
51 1937 ex Walsall
935A 2017 ex Birmingham
935A 2117 ex Brownhills West
935A 2217 ex Birmingham
935A 2317 ex Brownhills West (to Kingstanding)


Board 934/03
936 0600 ex Brownhills
936 0703 ex Birmingham
936 0809 ex Brownhills
935 0928 ex Birmingham
935 1030 ex Walsall
935 1128 ex Birmingham
935 1230 ex Walsall
935 1328 ex Birmingham
935 1430 ex Walsall
935 1528 ex Birmingham
935 1635 ex Walsall
936 1740 ex Birmingham
Empty to Brownhills west
935A 1917 ex Brownhills West
51 2017 ex Birmingham
51 2107 ex Walsall
934 2147 ex Birmingham
934 2221 ex Pheasey
934 2247 ex Birmingham
934 2321 ex Pheasey
934 2347 ex Birmingham

Board 934/10
936 0707 ex Brownhills
934 0820 ex Birmingham
935 0930 ex Walsall
935 1028 ex Birmingham
935 1130 ex Walsall
935 1228 ex Birmingham
935 1330 ex Walsall
935 1428 ex Birmingham
935 1530 ex Walsall
936 1640 ex Birmingham
Empty to Brownhills West
935A 1817 ex Brownhills West
935 1932 ex Birmingham

Board 934/16
881 1510 ex Barr Beacon School
Dead to Birmingham
935 1703 ex Birmingham
934 1825 ex Walsall
935A 1917 ex Birmingham
935A 2017 ex Brownhills West
51 2117 ex Birmingham
51 2207 ex Walsall
51 2247 ex Birmingham
51 2327 ex Walsall
51 0007 ex Birmingham

Board 934/18
881 0805 ex Palfrey
Empty to Walsall
934 0915 ex Walsall
936 1008 ex Birmingham
936 1111 ex Brownhills
934 1218 ex Birmingham
934 1315 ex Walsall
936 1408 ex Birmingham
936 1511 ex Brownhills
934 1625 ex Birmingham
935 1735 ex Walsall
934 1830 ex Birmingham
934 1921 ex Pheasey
51 1947 ex Birmingham




Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on February 17, 2014, 08:02:56 PM
Quote from: notepanel on February 16, 2014, 09:36:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on February 16, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
Does anyone know the running boards of the Evening 934/935A/51 were they interwork, thanks

On weekdays...
Board 51/10
X56 0640 ex Foley Arms
51 0726 ex Birmingham
51 0815 ex Walsall
51 0912 ex Birmingham
51 1005 ex Walsall
51 1055 ex Birmingham
51 1149 ex Walsall
51 1239 ex Birmingham
51 1334 ex Walsall
51 1424 ex Birmingham
51 1518 ex Walsall
51 1611 ex Birmingham
51 1709 ex Walsall
51 1805 ex Birmingham
51 1857 ex Walsall
934 1947 ex Birmingham
934 2021 ex Pheasey
934 2047 ex Birmingham
934 2121 ex Pheasey
51 2147 ex Birmingham
51 2237 ex Walsall
51 2317 ex Birmingham

Board 51/12
51 0745 ex Walsall
51 0840 ex Birmingham
51 0941 ex Walsall
51 1031 ex Birmingham
51 1125 ex Walsall
51 1215 ex Birmingham
51 1309 ex Walsall
51 1359 ex Birmingham
51 1453 ex Walsall
51 1545 ex Birmingham
51 1644 ex Walsall
51 1739 ex Birmingham
51 1841 ex Walsall
51 1932 ex Birmingham
51 2037 ex Walsall
935A 2117 ex Birmingham
935A 2217 ex Brownhills West
935A 2317 ex Birmingham

Board 51/14
40 0640 ex Walsall
40 0728 ex Wolverhampton
51 0840 ex Walsall
51 0936 ex Birmingham
51 1029 ex Walsall
51 1119 ex Birmingham
51 1213 ex Walsall
51 1303 ex Birmingham
51 1358 ex Walsall
51 1448 ex Birmingham
51 1542 ex Walsall
51 1635 ex Birmingham
51 1739 ex Walsall
51 1835 ex Birmingham
51 1937 ex Walsall
935A 2017 ex Birmingham
935A 2117 ex Brownhills West
935A 2217 ex Birmingham
935A 2317 ex Brownhills West (to Kingstanding)


Board 934/03
936 0600 ex Brownhills
936 0703 ex Birmingham
936 0809 ex Brownhills
935 0928 ex Birmingham
935 1030 ex Walsall
935 1128 ex Birmingham
935 1230 ex Walsall
935 1328 ex Birmingham
935 1430 ex Walsall
935 1528 ex Birmingham
935 1635 ex Walsall
936 1740 ex Birmingham
Empty to Brownhills west
935A 1917 ex Brownhills West
51 2017 ex Birmingham
51 2107 ex Walsall
934 2147 ex Birmingham
934 2221 ex Pheasey
934 2247 ex Birmingham
934 2321 ex Pheasey
934 2347 ex Birmingham

Board 934/10
936 0707 ex Brownhills
934 0820 ex Birmingham
935 0930 ex Walsall
935 1028 ex Birmingham
935 1130 ex Walsall
935 1228 ex Birmingham
935 1330 ex Walsall
935 1428 ex Birmingham
935 1530 ex Walsall
936 1640 ex Birmingham
Empty to Brownhills West
935A 1817 ex Brownhills West
935 1932 ex Birmingham

Board 934/16
881 1510 ex Barr Beacon School
Dead to Birmingham
935 1703 ex Birmingham
934 1825 ex Walsall
935A 1917 ex Birmingham
935A 2017 ex Brownhills West
51 2117 ex Birmingham
51 2207 ex Walsall
51 2247 ex Birmingham
51 2327 ex Walsall
51 0007 ex Birmingham

Board 934/18
881 0805 ex Palfrey
Empty to Walsall
934 0915 ex Walsall
936 1008 ex Birmingham
936 1111 ex Brownhills
934 1218 ex Birmingham
934 1315 ex Walsall
936 1408 ex Birmingham
936 1511 ex Brownhills
934 1625 ex Birmingham
935 1735 ex Walsall
934 1830 ex Birmingham
934 1921 ex Pheasey
51 1947 ex Birmingham

Many thanks for these Notepanel very much appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on February 17, 2014, 10:57:23 PM
51 has 12 branded buses which are allocated to PVR of 11 boards.

Meaning one spare branded bus this is why if one of the 3 boards using unbranded vechiles
Reguluy has branded bus

51-12 which does

935A 2117 city which regular has a branded 51 bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 24, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
4131 was on the 934 this afternoon - number was on the left of the front display, with no destination at all (Heading towards Birmingham)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 24, 2014, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: John on February 24, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
4131 was on the 934 this afternoon - number was on the left of the front display, with no destination at all (Heading towards Birmingham)

Its been like that for a few weeks now. I had it on the 301 on Saturday with the number on the left with no destination and same when i saw it on the 335 last week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 24, 2014, 08:39:28 PM
I was thinking about B10Ls at Walsall today and I noticed that I haven't seen 1430, P430 EJW, for a while. Anyone might know or have information for this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on February 25, 2014, 08:26:31 AM
1430 parked in yard of Walsall for a few weeks now.
Also notices yesterday 69 1805 departure from Walsall to wednesfield
Was a B7RLE with Wednesfield programmed on the blinds.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 25, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 24, 2014, 08:22:45 PM
Quote from: John on February 24, 2014, 08:10:39 PM
4131 was on the 934 this afternoon - number was on the left of the front display, with no destination at all (Heading towards Birmingham)

Its been like that for a few weeks now. I had it on the 301 on Saturday with the number on the left with no destination and same when i saw it on the 335 last week

4658 was also like this today on the 31A, number on the right hand side of the display, but no destination
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 25, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on February 25, 2014, 08:26:31 AM
1430 parked in yard of Walsall for a few weeks now.
Also notices yesterday 69 1805 departure from Walsall to wednesfield
Was a B7RLE with Wednesfield programmed on the blinds.

The 18:05 from Walsall is usually a B7RLE every day
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on March 01, 2014, 04:14:36 PM
4770, Started leaking , currently parked up on CarrsLane
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Eric Shaw on March 07, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
I was in Walsall at about 11.a.m. this morning and then travelled on 582 to Wolverhampton on the 39. Saw the following.
677 on 335.
669 on 70A.
1862 on X51.[4 branded].
244 on 336.
4857 on 7A.[51 branded].
4136 on 70A.
1892 on 38.
1891 on 34.
673 on39.
Some of these not unusual, but interesting as a collection.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 07, 2014, 08:12:30 PM
Took an inspectors ticket off 673 and a B10L on the 39 at Wolves Bus Station whilst on duty with inspectors this morning as part of my Park Lane Work Experience.

Also a WA Omnilink parked up at WN Garage today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on March 07, 2014, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 07, 2014, 08:12:30 PM
Took an inspectors ticket off 673 and a B10L on the 39 at Wolves Bus Station whilst on duty with inspectors this morning as part of my Park Lane Work Experience.

Also a WA Omnilink parked up at WN Garage today

Bet that looked at bit strange seeing an Omnilink in WN Garage ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 07, 2014, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 07, 2014, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 07, 2014, 08:12:30 PM
Took an inspectors ticket off 673 and a B10L on the 39 at Wolves Bus Station whilst on duty with inspectors this morning as part of my Park Lane Work Experience.

Also a WA Omnilink parked up at WN Garage today

Bet that looked at bit strange seeing an Omnilink in WN Garage ;)

We have had all sorts down PL this week. We had 6031 from PB down here today. 591 from WB yesterday (Although it was supposed to b here today!) and also 1474 and 4308 have also been brought down whilst failing on the 39 and 40 respectivley
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on March 07, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
Wonder if 244 will show its face tomorrow  :)? I doubt it will as I am wanting a Photo of it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 07, 2014, 08:55:40 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 07, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
Wonder if 244 will show its face tomorrow  :)? I doubt it will as I am wanting a Photo of it

I will be going to Walsall tomorrow morning, if I see 244, I will post here unless someone posts before me. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 07, 2014, 09:03:21 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 07, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
Wonder if 244 will show its face tomorrow  :)? I doubt it will as I am wanting a Photo of it

I will be on the lookout for you Nathan :)

Also Matt and P419 EJW I will tell you if I see 1419 tommorow :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on March 07, 2014, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 07, 2014, 09:03:21 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 07, 2014, 08:53:23 PM
Wonder if 244 will show its face tomorrow  :)? I doubt it will as I am wanting a Photo of it

I will be on the lookout for you Nathan :)

Also Matt and P419 EJW I will tell you if I see 1419 tommorow :)

Many thanks Nathan P419 EJW & Matt much appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on March 07, 2014, 10:17:47 PM
So 244 did the B6 duty on WA6 tonight, so glad I didn't go to Walsall for it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 08, 2014, 06:41:49 PM
Yet again the 301 is mainly double decker operated today!  Didn't see a single decker whilst travelling along.

430*,4680,4737 and 4767 were all on the 301 today with 4307 on the 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 08, 2014, 09:31:08 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 08, 2014, 06:41:49 PM
Yet again the 301 is mainly double decker operated today!  Didn't see a single decker whilst travelling along.

430*,4680,4737 and 4767 were all on the 301 today with 4307 on the 302

Question is did they need double deckers?

If the combind frequency between Bloxwich & Walsall was 10  minutes or more,  I'd say yes.

Any less, no.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 08, 2014, 09:38:35 PM
When I had a trident on the 301 a few Saturday's back yes it was cetainly was needed but I didn't pay attention to passenger loadings today as I was aboard brand new Arriva 3798 on the 1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on March 09, 2014, 06:32:28 PM
Anyone know the times that the X51/997 Interwork a if possible the board number if they still do thanks  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on March 09, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 09, 2014, 06:32:28 PM
Anyone know the times that the X51/997 Interwork a if possible the board number if they still do thanks  :)

X51-01
997   0659 ex Walsall
997E   0810 ex Birmingham
997E   0859 ex Pheasey
X51   0940 ex Birmingham
Then X51 as follows:
ex Walsall 1020, 1140, 1300, 1420, 1550 & 1715      
ex Birmingham 1100, 1220, 1340, 1500, 1630 & 1755

X51-02
997E   0639 ex Pheasey
997E   0711 ex Birmingham
997E   0749 ex Pheasey
X51   0835 ex Birmingham
Then X51 as follows:
ex Walsall 0920, 1040, 1200, 1320, 1440, 1605 & 1735
ex Birmingham 1000, 1120, 1240, 1400, 1520, 1645 & 1815

X51-04
X51 as follows:
ex Walsall 0720, 0845, 1000, 1120, 1240 & 1400
ex Birmingham 0800, 0925, 1040, 1200, 1320 & 1440
Then
X51   1520 ex Walsall
997E   1603 ex Birmingham
997E   1646 ex Pheasey
997   1733 ex Birmingham

997-03
997   0558 ex Walsall
997   0701 ex Birmingham
997   0809 ex Walsall
997E   0933 ex Birmingham
997E   1014 ex Pheasey
997   1053 ex Birmingham
997   1204 ex Walsall
997E   1313 ex Birmingham
997E   1354 ex Pheasey
997E   1433 ex Birmingham
997E   1514 ex Pheasey
X51   1600 ex Birmingham
X51   1655 ex Walsall
X51   1735 ex Birmingham
X51   1820 ex Walsall
X51   1900 ex Birmingham

997-06
X51   0635 ex Walsall
X51   0710 ex Birmingham
X51   0750 ex Walsall
997E   0835 ex Birmingham
997E   0924 ex Pheasey
997E   1003 ex Birmingham
997E   1044 ex Pheasey
997   1123 ex Birmingham
997   1234 ex Walsall
997E   1343 ex Birmingham
997E   1424 ex Pheasey
997E   1503 ex Birmingham
997E   1546 ex Pheasey
997   1633 ex Birmingham
997   1759 ex Walsall
X51   1915 ex Birmingham

997-07
X51   0615 ex Walsall
X51   0650 ex Birmingham
X51   0730 ex Walsall
X51   0815 ex Birmingham
X51   0900 ex Walsall
997E   0943 ex Birmingham
997E   1024 ex Pheasey
997E   1103 ex Birmingham
997E   1144 ex Pheasey
997   1223 ex Birmingham
997   1334 ex Walsall
997E   1443 ex Birmingham
997E   1524 ex Pheasey
997   1613 ex Birmingham
997   1739 ex Walsall
997   1902 ex Birmingham
997   2034 ex Walsall
997   2132 ex Birmingham
997   2234 ex Walsall
997   2332 ex Birmingham


Other random boards (I.e. not school boards or exclusive boards) that contain X51 or 997 journeys are:
934-06
936   0630 ex Brownhills
936   0733 ex Birmingham
936   0839 ex Brownhills
X51   0950 ex Birmingham

934-09
935   0707 ex Walsall
935E   0812 ex Birmingham
935   0838 ex G.F. Road
X51   0915 ex Birmingham

934-19
X51   1510 ex Walsall
934   1548 ex Birmingham
934   1645 ex Walsall
935   1748 ex Birmingham

X56-01
X56   0645 ex Boney Hay
997E   0806 ex Birmingham (to Pheasey Church)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on March 09, 2014, 10:16:40 PM
Now that's what I call a memory...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on March 10, 2014, 06:25:34 PM
Probably already in the Noteworthy thread

4763 is on 301's at the moment (Was on 8/89)
4776 is on 302's
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 10, 2014, 06:30:45 PM
Quote from: Ashley on March 10, 2014, 06:25:34 PM
Probably already in the Noteworthy thread

4763 is on 301's at the moment (Was on 8/89)
4776 is on 302's

Neither have been posted in the Noteworthy Workings thread :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on March 10, 2014, 08:59:12 PM
Quote from: notepanel on March 09, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 09, 2014, 06:32:28 PM
Anyone know the times that the X51/997 Interwork a if possible the board number if they still do thanks  :)

X51-01
997   0659 ex Walsall
997E   0810 ex Birmingham
997E   0859 ex Pheasey
X51   0940 ex Birmingham
Then X51 as follows:
ex Walsall 1020, 1140, 1300, 1420, 1550 & 1715      
ex Birmingham 1100, 1220, 1340, 1500, 1630 & 1755

X51-02
997E   0639 ex Pheasey
997E   0711 ex Birmingham
997E   0749 ex Pheasey
X51   0835 ex Birmingham
Then X51 as follows:
ex Walsall 0920, 1040, 1200, 1320, 1440, 1605 & 1735
ex Birmingham 1000, 1120, 1240, 1400, 1520, 1645 & 1815

X51-04
X51 as follows:
ex Walsall 0720, 0845, 1000, 1120, 1240 & 1400
ex Birmingham 0800, 0925, 1040, 1200, 1320 & 1440
Then
X51   1520 ex Walsall
997E   1603 ex Birmingham
997E   1646 ex Pheasey
997   1733 ex Birmingham

997-03
997   0558 ex Walsall
997   0701 ex Birmingham
997   0809 ex Walsall
997E   0933 ex Birmingham
997E   1014 ex Pheasey
997   1053 ex Birmingham
997   1204 ex Walsall
997E   1313 ex Birmingham
997E   1354 ex Pheasey
997E   1433 ex Birmingham
997E   1514 ex Pheasey
X51   1600 ex Birmingham
X51   1655 ex Walsall
X51   1735 ex Birmingham
X51   1820 ex Walsall
X51   1900 ex Birmingham

997-06
X51   0635 ex Walsall
X51   0710 ex Birmingham
X51   0750 ex Walsall
997E   0835 ex Birmingham
997E   0924 ex Pheasey
997E   1003 ex Birmingham
997E   1044 ex Pheasey
997   1123 ex Birmingham
997   1234 ex Walsall
997E   1343 ex Birmingham
997E   1424 ex Pheasey
997E   1503 ex Birmingham
997E   1546 ex Pheasey
997   1633 ex Birmingham
997   1759 ex Walsall
X51   1915 ex Birmingham

997-07
X51   0615 ex Walsall
X51   0650 ex Birmingham
X51   0730 ex Walsall
X51   0815 ex Birmingham
X51   0900 ex Walsall
997E   0943 ex Birmingham
997E   1024 ex Pheasey
997E   1103 ex Birmingham
997E   1144 ex Pheasey
997   1223 ex Birmingham
997   1334 ex Walsall
997E   1443 ex Birmingham
997E   1524 ex Pheasey
997   1613 ex Birmingham
997   1739 ex Walsall
997   1902 ex Birmingham
997   2034 ex Walsall
997   2132 ex Birmingham
997   2234 ex Walsall
997   2332 ex Birmingham


Other random boards (I.e. not school boards or exclusive boards) that contain X51 or 997 journeys are:
934-06
936   0630 ex Brownhills
936   0733 ex Birmingham
936   0839 ex Brownhills
X51   0950 ex Birmingham

934-09
935   0707 ex Walsall
935E   0812 ex Birmingham
935   0838 ex G.F. Road
X51   0915 ex Birmingham

934-19
X51   1510 ex Walsall
934   1548 ex Birmingham
934   1645 ex Walsall
935   1748 ex Birmingham

X56-01
X56   0645 ex Boney Hay
997E   0806 ex Birmingham (to Pheasey Church)

Thanks Notepanel  :) very much appreciated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on March 10, 2014, 09:25:03 PM
4776 is out until end of play on 302's

Also a Gemini is on the 997 tonight, left Walsall on the 19:30 departure

673 was the B6 on the 6 tonight
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 11, 2014, 09:52:59 AM
As most of the X51 are mixed boards

X51 branded buses only work peak time boards and are rarely seen during the day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 13, 2014, 11:57:23 AM
1430, P430 EJW, is finally back in service! It is on 38, seen it in Darlaston at 11:51am, heading to Wednesbury. If anyone wants to see it or take a picture, you can work out the timetables for 1430.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on March 13, 2014, 02:30:06 PM
582 & an Omnilump on the 39 this afternoon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 15, 2014, 11:01:58 AM
1430 is on 39, departed Wolverhampton Bus Station at 10:56am, if anyone want to see it in Walsall later.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 18, 2014, 07:41:13 AM
244 on the 70/70 a in Beechdale this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 18, 2014, 08:15:10 AM
547 is working on the 69 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 18, 2014, 08:06:00 PM
Service 7 is booked to use

1 Trident
1 B7RLE

Service 7A.

1 trident out until 2346
1 B7RLE
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on March 19, 2014, 06:01:48 PM
4737 - 8/89
473x - 302
673 is on the 1925 6 ex Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 19, 2014, 06:35:32 PM
1430 is on the 69 today. Hasn't been on the 69 for a while
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on March 19, 2014, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 19, 2014, 06:35:32 PM
1430 is on the 69 today. Hasn't been on the 69 for a while

Was 1430 on its usual W69/03 or on a different board? :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 19, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 19, 2014, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 19, 2014, 06:35:32 PM
1430 is on the 69 today. Hasn't been on the 69 for a while

Was 1430 on its usual W69/03 or on a different board? :)

1430 hasn't done W63/03 for ages. But I think it was actually on board 69/03 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 19, 2014, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 19, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
Quote from: Rob H on March 19, 2014, 07:49:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 19, 2014, 06:35:32 PM
1430 is on the 69 today. Hasn't been on the 69 for a while

Was 1430 on its usual W69/03 or on a different board? :)

1430 hasn't done W63/03 for ages. But I think it was actually on board 69/03 today

Edit: Deleted the original post. According to lynx1103, 1430 did serve W69/03.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 19, 2014, 08:41:54 PM
W69-03 departs Walsall at 1635 1840

W69-01 departs 1600 1810 ussally electronic blind as it terminates at wednesfield
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 19, 2014, 08:42:44 PM
Alright, I stand corrected. :) Thanks, lynx1103.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on March 21, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Might be of interest

4331 is tonight's WA40
1438 on 302's all evening
669 did the one B6LE working on WA6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: HTA844N on March 22, 2014, 04:57:38 PM
Saw on Notice & Proceedings changes to timetable and routes 27/04/14 for 311 / 313 / 335. Does anyone know these changes? Tar!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on March 22, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: baker_06 on March 22, 2014, 04:57:38 PM
Saw on Notice & Proceedings changes to timetable and routes 27/04/14 for 311 / 313 / 335. Does anyone know these changes? Tar!

Think the 311/3 are not going to serve Wednesbury Parkway Metro stop anymore?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on March 22, 2014, 05:14:02 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 22, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: baker_06 on March 22, 2014, 04:57:38 PMhttp://wmbusphotos.com/forum/Smileys/aaron/lipsrsealed.gif
Saw on Notice & Proceedings changes to timetable and routes 27/04/14 for 311 / 313 / 335. Does anyone know these changes? Tar!

Think the 311/3 are not going to serve Wednesbury Parkway Metro stop anymore?

Correct. The 335/6 change is another similar one - they will no longer be serving Wilbraham Road.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 22, 2014, 10:30:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 22, 2014, 05:04:05 PM
Quote from: baker_06 on March 22, 2014, 04:57:38 PM
Saw on Notice & Proceedings changes to timetable and routes 27/04/14 for 311 / 313 / 335. Does anyone know these changes? Tar!

Think the 311/3 are not going to serve Wednesbury Parkway Metro stop anymore?

I will have to make sure I'm awake to get off at the stop after then!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on March 29, 2014, 05:07:29 PM
Has 1421 been out in service today ? didnt see it whilst in Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 29, 2014, 05:10:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 29, 2014, 05:07:29 PM
Has 1421 been out in service today ? didnt see it whilst in Walsall

Yes, 1421 was on 39 today when I saw it passing my bus 1474 on 39 in Herberts Park, Darlaston.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on March 29, 2014, 08:51:34 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 29, 2014, 05:10:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on March 29, 2014, 05:07:29 PM
Has 1421 been out in service today ? didnt see it whilst in Walsall

Yes, 1421 was on 39 today when I saw it passing my bus 1474 on 39 in Herberts Park, Darlaston.

That would explain why I didnt see it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on March 30, 2014, 05:31:05 PM
Anyone know the PVR of the 4/4H/4M ?, does the 4 have any extra peak workings as looking at the timetable I cannot work it out -_-
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 30, 2014, 06:09:06 PM
No extra peak time working.

21 running boards

18 branded vechiles.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 04, 2014, 10:06:55 AM
Noticed yesterday that 4870 has lost its nearside advert frame for some reason

EDIT - it is 4870, saw it again today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 06, 2014, 10:23:23 PM
4128 once again took part in the annual Sikh Vaisakhi Parade from Willenhall to Wednesfield today alongside WN's 4535 carrying people (mainly the elderly Sikhs between the Willenhall and Wednesfield temples)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 07, 2014, 09:03:10 AM
A fair few Omnilinks out yesterday although not that rare:
1897 was the bus on the 39-Bilston
190* was the bus on the 40
An Omnilink was on the 6/10/77 (
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 07, 2014, 06:57:13 PM
Was there any DD's on the Walsall to Bloxwich corridor on Saturday?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 07, 2014, 07:49:51 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 07, 2014, 06:57:13 PM
Was there any DD's on the Walsall to Bloxwich corridor on Saturday?

4776 was on the 302 on Saturday, the only decker I saw on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on April 07, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
1446 ran the 19:05 77 ex Scutton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 07, 2014, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 07, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
1446 ran the 19:05 77 ex Sutton

Yup, saw 1446 at 14:35, departed from Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on April 10, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
4883 is the bus that has lost the *Fast* on the upper window, in my opinion it looks better without the *fast* advert, some may disagree
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on April 12, 2014, 11:17:28 AM
Anyone seen 582 today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on April 12, 2014, 01:22:03 PM
4133-X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 12, 2014, 04:22:17 PM
Quote from: Matt on April 12, 2014, 11:17:28 AM
Anyone seen 582 today?

Last time I saw it was last week sometime on the 39
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 12, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
I don't know what happened, but there seemed to be what looked like a small collision between 4685 and 1845 on Bull Street this afternoon. 4685 (at an angle to the kerb) in front of 1845, with an ambulance in attendance, and someone on 1845 been treated in their seat
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 13, 2014, 01:56:36 PM
1474 has suffered severe front accident damage whilst
Working route 38 on pleck road by manor hospital around
Wednesday 9 April 2014
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on April 13, 2014, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 13, 2014, 01:56:36 PM
1474 has suffered severe front accident damage whilst
Working route 38 on pleck road by manor hospital around
Wednesday 9 April 2014


Presume that'll be a goner then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 13, 2014, 03:01:31 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 13, 2014, 01:56:36 PM
1474 has suffered severe front accident damage whilst
Working route 38 on pleck road by manor hospital around
Wednesday 9 April 2014

Oh, no, that's such a shame! :( I saw 1474 on that day. Hope not that would be another B10L withdrawn.

On a side note, have anyone seen 1453 recently? I have not seen it since 20th March, 2014.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 13, 2014, 03:22:29 PM
Here is 1474

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/13807715314/

1453 has been off road a while awaiting a new part. And 677 has been off the road a few weeks it was on on the 301 as a change bus for a scania on Wednesday 9 April but has not been seen since

673 is daily on 335-01 for a few weeks now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 13, 2014, 03:27:57 PM
Goodness me! Poor 1474! :( 😱 How did the accident happen, do you know? Thanks for the info on 1453. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on April 13, 2014, 04:24:38 PM
Will 677 and 1453 be back in service soon?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 13, 2014, 04:37:17 PM
1474 was working route 38 towards Walsall on pleck road
After turning left by Brown lion car was on wrong side of road and hit
1474 head on.

1474 was towed back in by a recovery truck
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 13, 2014, 04:55:07 PM
Urgh... Bloody incompetent people with their brilliant driving skills. 😒 Do you know if 1474 would be repaired or withdrawn? I will PM you, got more questions to ask. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on April 13, 2014, 06:22:32 PM
Poor thing :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 13, 2014, 07:54:10 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 13, 2014, 04:55:07 PM
Urgh... Bloody incompetent people with their brilliant driving skills. 😒 Do you know if 1474 would be repaired or withdrawn? I will PM you, got more questions to ask. :)

Not sure 547/1454 also had severe front damage and was repaired
If it is repaired it'll be at least 2 months before she returns to service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on April 13, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Given 1614 was withdrawn with damage not as bad as this. My arguably invalid spotters nous says 1474 is for coke cans now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 13, 2014, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 13, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Given 1614 was withdrawn with damage not as bad as this. My arguably invalid spotters nous says 1474 is for coke cans now

fear you could be right Ashley. It depends whether WA get the Enviro 200s they asked for. If not, maybe 1474 may be given a saty of execution. If it does would prefer it to be turned into Fanta cans, don't like Coke.  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve6544 on April 13, 2014, 10:08:50 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 13, 2014, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 13, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Given 1614 was withdrawn with damage not as bad as this. My arguably invalid spotters nous says 1474 is for coke cans now
[/quote

fear you could be right Ashley. It depends whether WA get the Enviro 200s they asked for. If not, maybe 1474 may be given a saty of execution. If it does would prefer it to be turned into Fanta cans, don't like Coke.  ;) ;) ;)

Haven't seen 1430 since 31st march is it off the road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 13, 2014, 11:29:57 PM
Quote from: Steve6544 on April 13, 2014, 10:08:50 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 13, 2014, 10:05:40 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 13, 2014, 10:01:44 PM
Given 1614 was withdrawn with damage not as bad as this. My arguably invalid spotters nous says 1474 is for coke cans now

fear you could be right Ashley. It depends whether WA get the Enviro 200s they asked for. If not, maybe 1474 may be given a saty of execution. If it does would prefer it to be turned into Fanta cans, don't like Coke.  ;) ;) ;)

Haven't seen 1430 since 31st march is it off the road

I saw 1430 on Thursday serving 39 and on Saturday, it was serving 34/38, if I remember correctly. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on April 14, 2014, 09:38:52 AM
Quote from: Daniel w on April 13, 2014, 11:31:50 PM
Seen it Saturday
On the 34/8 just rembered

Hold on, are you Daniel w or Steve 6544? Either way to post you haven't seen 1430 for 2 weeks and then to post again saying you saw it on Saturday is a little confusing
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve6544 on April 14, 2014, 09:41:20 AM
I am daniel w
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PM on April 14, 2014, 09:53:52 AM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on April 14, 2014, 09:38:52 AM
Quote from: Daniel w on April 13, 2014, 11:31:50 PM
Seen it Saturday
On the 34/8 just rembered

Hold on, are you Daniel w or Steve 6544? Either way to post you haven't seen 1430 for 2 weeks and then to post again saying you saw it on Saturday is a little confusing

A copy of P419EJW's post essentially...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on April 14, 2014, 09:56:42 AM
I think christopher is back........ AGAIN!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 14, 2014, 09:02:27 PM
677-70A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 15, 2014, 07:01:55 AM
She's a happy soul on the 7am from Walsall 313.

Ought to be a law against it!

(Only joking)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 15, 2014, 09:46:05 PM
1474 is too be scraped

Blinds removed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 15, 2014, 09:53:24 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 15, 2014, 09:46:05 PM
1474 is to be scraped

Blinds removed

Oh, no! :( :'( Goodbye 1474. She didn't deserve to leave in that state. :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve6544 on April 16, 2014, 07:53:06 AM
Does that mean that 1419 comes back to walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 16, 2014, 08:27:50 AM
Well Walsall are now 2 buses down so a replacement
Has to come from somewhere. Also haven't seen 4127 for
A long time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 16, 2014, 09:10:12 AM
Quote from: Daniel w on April 16, 2014, 07:53:06 AM
Does that mean that 1419 comes back to walsall

If that ever comes true in the future, I will like you for a long time. ;) It certainly would be lovely for 1419 to come back to Walsall! I miss 1419 not being in Walsall. :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 16, 2014, 10:21:10 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 16, 2014, 08:27:50 AM
Well Walsall are now 2 buses down so a replacement
Has to come from somewhere. Also haven't seen 4127 for
A long time.

4127 is in the body bays at Yardley Wood
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve6544 on April 16, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
Where's a replacement bus coming from tony ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 16, 2014, 10:58:57 PM
677 was on the 39 this afternoon. Seen heading down Bilston Road out of Wolverhampton shortly before 6PM
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 17, 2014, 05:33:52 AM
673 taken the Dailey role of 335-01

677 seems to be allocated now onto other boards maybe down to
High mileage of 335-01
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 17, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
Quote from: Daniel w on April 16, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
Where's a replacement bus coming from tony ?

What replacement bus?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on April 17, 2014, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
Quote from: Daniel w on April 16, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
Where's a replacement bus coming from tony ?

What replacement bus?

Could be wrong, but I think he means a replaement for 1474 ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve6544 on April 17, 2014, 09:00:15 AM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 17, 2014, 08:58:54 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2014, 08:53:47 AM
Quote from: Daniel w on April 16, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
Where's a replacement bus coming from tony ?

What replacement bus?

Could be wrong, but I think he means a replaement for 1474 ?

Yes I mean 1474
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on April 17, 2014, 09:13:09 AM
Yesterday in walsall

673 - 335/301
244 - 336/335/6

1438 - late 302's

1475 - 77

4764 and 4681 - late 89
4683 - late 997

4737 - late 51

Hope of interest possibly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve6544 on April 17, 2014, 09:16:27 AM
Surprised A b10 is out till late
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 17, 2014, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: Daniel w on April 17, 2014, 09:16:27 AM
Surprised A b10 is out till late

They will be out till late anyway on the 34 and 39
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 17, 2014, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: Ashley on April 17, 2014, 09:13:09 AM
Yesterday in walsall

673 - 335/301
244 - 336/335/6

1438 - late 302's

1475 - 77

4764 and 4681 - late 89
4683 - late 997


4737 - late 51

Hope of interest possibly


4681 was on the 19:05,21:05 and 23:05 89 departures from W'ton Victoria St and the 18:00,20:05 and 22:05 from Walsall

4764 was on the 20:05,22:05 from W'ton and 19:05,21:05 and 23:05 from Walsall

They would have done these journeys unless they were swapped?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 17, 2014, 09:31:08 AM
Quote from: John on April 17, 2014, 09:18:50 AM
Quote from: Daniel w on April 17, 2014, 09:16:27 AM
Surprised A b10 is out till late

They will be out till late anyway on the 34 and 39

I have noticed a few Omnilinks on the 34/9 most days so wouldn't the Omnilinks usually stay out in place of the B10L's?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on April 17, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
there was a 55 branded omnilink in matinence at WA

I also spotted 1474 with front bumper damage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on April 17, 2014, 03:07:12 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on April 17, 2014, 02:39:22 PM
there was a 55 branded omnilink in matinence at WA

I also spotted 1474 with front bumper damage

The Omnilink was either 1807 or 1812 as they are the latest from BY to go in :)

1474 is now sadly withdrawn due to the damage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on April 17, 2014, 04:31:26 PM
4764 and 4681 weren't swapped last night from WA89 just to clarify
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on April 17, 2014, 08:15:37 PM
got a pic of 1474 inside WA while having a garage tour

https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/13911540424/in/photostream/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 18, 2014, 10:03:37 PM
1785 is off road following accident damage at 1700hrs Rushall McDonald's
Whilst working route 89
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 18, 2014, 10:07:15 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 18, 2014, 10:03:37 PM
1785 is off road following accident damage at 1700hrs Rushall McDonald's
Whilst working route 89

Only caught 1785 on the 89 into Wolverhampton this morning as well!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on April 19, 2014, 03:34:58 PM
Shows how long it's been since I was in Walsall on a saturday

4767 and possibly 4871 - 10/10A
4130 plus another Trident I think - 70A
Gemini - 302

And probably much more but you probably know im a tad or rather very useless sometimes on most things so thats all folks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on April 19, 2014, 04:56:14 PM
Quote from: Ashley on April 19, 2014, 03:34:58 PM
Shows how long it's been since I was in Walsall on a saturday

4767 and possibly 4871 - 10/10A
4130 plus another Trident I think - 70A
Gemini - 302

And probably much more but you probably know im a tad or rather very useless sometimes on most things so thats all folks

4871 definitely on the 10 (: passed it in Brownhills , I think most boards except 1 (B7RLE) The rest arre tridents makes a nice change from B7RLE^S

487* - WA7
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on April 20, 2014, 02:28:35 PM
Just to add to yesterdays waffle

4680 - 302
430x - 29
4130 + another Trident - 70A
4682 - 69
4871 4767 plus 2 or 3 41xx Tridents - 10/10A
1769 seemed an odd sight on a daytime 6

Like I said shows how often I see Walsall on a saturday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on April 22, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
Noticed this morning that the X56 Journey from Boney Hay which workes a 997E to 'Pheasey Church' operated this morning ? I thought this 997E trip was on School days only or has something changed;


also on a Sunday when the 6/10/77 all interwork are the boards all under the one route i.e 06/01 06/02 06/03 etc or under the route they start on if that makes sense
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 22, 2014, 08:54:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 22, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
Noticed this morning that the X56 Journey from Boney Hay which workes a 997E to 'Pheasey Church' operated this morning ? I thought this 997E trip was on School days only or has something changed;


also on a Sunday when the 6/10/77 all interwork are the boards all under the one route i.e 06/01 06/02 06/03 etc or under the route they start on if that makes sense


On Sunday 6/10/77 are all under as

10 boards and also X51/934/935A interwork on Sundays and all down as 934 boards

Night interworking 934/935A/51 are either under 51/934 boards
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on April 22, 2014, 09:04:45 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 22, 2014, 08:54:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 22, 2014, 01:48:23 PM
Noticed this morning that the X56 Journey from Boney Hay which workes a 997E to 'Pheasey Church' operated this morning ? I thought this 997E trip was on School days only or has something changed;


also on a Sunday when the 6/10/77 all interwork are the boards all under the one route i.e 06/01 06/02 06/03 etc or under the route they start on if that makes sense


On Sunday 6/10/77 are all under as

10 boards and also X51/934/935A interwork on Sundays and ate down as 934 boards

Night interworking 934/935A/51 are either under 51/934 boards

thanks lynx1103
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on April 26, 2014, 11:25:42 AM
4332 and 4137-301
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on April 26, 2014, 06:53:28 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on April 26, 2014, 11:25:42 AM
4332 and 4137-301

4736 is out on the 301's aswell :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 26, 2014, 09:32:07 PM
6-244
7-1421
10/A-1901
69-41xx
302-4134
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 26, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 26, 2014, 09:32:07 PM
6-244
7-1421
10/A-1901
69-41xx
302-4134

4136 and 4329 were on the 69 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 29, 2014, 01:07:24 PM
Saw 1440 today, back in service on 29.

It's good to see 1453 back in service after many weeks of inactivity, it is on 302.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on April 29, 2014, 09:35:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 26, 2014, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 26, 2014, 09:32:07 PM
6-244
7-1421
10/A-1901
69-41xx
302-4134

4136 and 4329 were on the 69 today

My favourite Tridents at WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 30, 2014, 07:25:42 AM
Yesterday, I was on 335, did a circular. The driver did not serve Wilbraham Road (at the back of Manor Hospital, a small loop then back on the route). I was puzzled so I waited until I got to Walsall. Arriving in Walsall, I asked the driver how come he didn't serve that road, he said 335 no longer serves that road. I had a look on here for information I might have missed and I found the answer:

Quote from: Winston on March 05, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
PD0001111/13 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall Bus Station and Walsall Bus Station given service number 335/336 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

It was weird yesterday, after these years going on 335, I expected it to turn into Wilbraham Road but it didn't. Felt different.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on April 30, 2014, 07:30:43 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 30, 2014, 07:25:42 AM
Yesterday, I was on 335, did a circular. The driver did not serve Wilbraham Road (at the back of Manor Hospital, a small loop then back on the route). I was puzzled so I waited until I got to Walsall. Arriving in Walsall, I asked the driver how come he didn't serve that road, he said 335 no longer serves that road. I had a look on here for information I might have missed and I found the answer:

Quote from: Winston on March 05, 2014, 10:02:31 AM
PD0001111/13 - WEST MIDLANDS TRAVEL LTD T/A TRAVEL WEST MIDLANDS, 51 BORDESLEY GREEN, BIRMINGHAM, B9 4BZ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall Bus Station and Walsall Bus Station given service number 335/336 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Route and Timetable.

It was weird yesterday, after these years going on 335, I expected it to turn into Wilbraham Road but it didn't. Felt different.

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-27th-april-2014
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 30, 2014, 05:42:48 PM
Same will happen with the Wednesbury Parkway & 311/ 313 too for me.

(Just hope this reliability issue is now sorted out! )
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: crepello on May 01, 2014, 09:26:04 PM
1433 was having late afternoon spin on the 301 today and going well too!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 03, 2014, 03:20:53 PM
1751 has now gained a mega rear advert for Skegness (Same as the one 2018 at WN now has)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on May 03, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 03, 2014, 03:20:53 PM
1751 has now gained a mega rear advert for Skegness (Same as the one 2018 at WN now has)

A WB Enviro200 has it too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 03, 2014, 08:24:23 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on May 03, 2014, 08:09:22 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 03, 2014, 03:20:53 PM
1751 has now gained a mega rear advert for Skegness (Same as the one 2018 at WN now has)


A WB Enviro200 has it too.

That will be 812 :) Seen it last Sunday on the 49
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 05, 2014, 06:56:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 15, 2014, 07:01:55 AM
She's a happy soul on the 7am from Walsall 313.

Ought to be a law against it!

(Only joking)

And I've just found out she's the sister of someone I sort of work with, as her sister has just posted a pic of her on Facebook!

Good job I didn't slag her off!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 06, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
1453 back in service

1434/1475 off road

4128 has has its rear lea more windows advert removed looking very tatty
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 06, 2014, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 06, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
1453 back in service

1434/1475 off road

4128 has has its rear lea more windows advert removed looking very tatty

I did notice that! :( Haven't seen both of them for nearly 4 weeks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on May 07, 2014, 12:04:19 AM
Just a quick query.

If possible, can someone just let me know what vehicles are allocated to which routes at Walsall?

It'd be a great help, and greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 07, 2014, 06:48:35 AM
Quote from: Michael on May 07, 2014, 12:04:19 AM
Just a quick query.

If possible, can someone just let me know what vehicles are allocated to which routes at Walsall?

It'd be a great help, and greatly appreciated.

Well it's supposed to be Scanias on the 4, 301, 311 & 313 with  Eclipses on the 302, plus B6's on the 335/336, other that it seems anything goes!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 07, 2014, 08:46:28 AM
There are not enough scanias for the 4/301/311/313 to be 100 per cent scania
So 4/311/313 are fully scania and 301 has eclipse to make up.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 07, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 07, 2014, 08:46:28 AM
There are not enough scanias for the 4/301/311/313 to be 100 per cent scania
So 4/311/313 are fully scania and 301 has eclipse to make up.

There are atleast a couple of B7's on the 311/3 most days from my observation (I've seen them on Sundays too)

4/H/M-Scania Omnilink
6- Tridents( (Mon-Sat),B7RLE (Sundays and sometimes on Mon-Sat)
7/A-B7RLE (Mon-Sun),Trident
8/89-B7RLE (Mon-Sun), Trident (Mon-Sat). E400's are used sometimes too
10/A-B7RLE,Trident (Mon-Sat)
29-B7RLE
34/38/39- B10L (Mon-Sat), Omnilink (Mon-Sun). B7RLE's appear on sundays too
40/1- A mixture out of garage but primarily Tridents,B7RLE's and sometimes E400's
51-E400
69-B10L and B7RLE
70/A- B7RLE (Tridents also appear on the 70A)
77-Tridents (Mon-Sat). It was stated on here there is a peak board that can be allocated anything avaliable including B10L's
301-Omnilinks/B7RLE. (Doble deckers apper regually on Saturday)
302-B7RLE/Omnilinks
311/3- Omnilink/B7RLE
335/336- B6LE
934/934E/935/935A/936-E400  (One board during the week is usually B7RLE operated isn't it)
997-E400
X51-E400 & Wright Eclipse Gemini bodied B7TL
X56- B7RLE


On a Saturday the 69/70A and 301/2 regually have double deckers allocated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on May 07, 2014, 10:42:09 AM
Quote from: Nathan on May 07, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 07, 2014, 08:46:28 AM
There are not enough scanias for the 4/301/311/313 to be 100 per cent scania
So 4/311/313 are fully scania and 301 has eclipse to make up.

There are atleast a couple of B7's on the 311/3 most days from my observation (I've seen them on Sundays too)

4/H/M-Scania Omnilink
6- Tridents( (Mon-Sat),B7RLE (Sundays and sometimes on Mon-Sat)
7-B7RLE (Mon-Sunday),Trident
8/89-B7RLE (Mon-Sunday), Trident (Mon-Sat). E400's are used sometimes too
10/A-B7RLE,Trident (Mon-Sat)
29-B7RLE
34/38/39- B10L (Mon-Saturday), Omnilink (Mon-Sunday). B7RLe's appear on sundays too
40/1- A mixture out of garage but primarily Tridents,B7RLE's and sometimes E400's
51-E400
69-B10L and B7RLE
70/A- B7RLE
301-Omnilink. (Doble deckers apper regually on Saturday)
311/3- Omnilink/B7RLE
335/336- B6LE
934/5/6-E400
997-E400

There was 1 or 2 Tridents on the 70A today, and an Enviro 400 on the 301
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on May 07, 2014, 01:41:52 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 07, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 07, 2014, 08:46:28 AM
There are not enough scanias for the 4/301/311/313 to be 100 per cent scania
So 4/311/313 are fully scania and 301 has eclipse to make up.

There are atleast a couple of B7's on the 311/3 most days from my observation (I've seen them on Sundays too)

4/H/M-Scania Omnilink
6- Tridents( (Mon-Sat),B7RLE (Sundays and sometimes on Mon-Sat)
7-B7RLE (Mon-Sunday),Trident
8/89-B7RLE (Mon-Sunday), Trident (Mon-Sat). E400's are used sometimes too
10/A-B7RLE,Trident (Mon-Sat)
29-B7RLE
34/38/39- B10L (Mon-Saturday), Omnilink (Mon-Sunday). B7RLe's appear on sundays too
40/1- A mixture out of garage but primarily Tridents,B7RLE's and sometimes E400's
51-E400
69-B10L and B7RLE
70/A- B7RLE
301-Omnilink. (Doble deckers apper regually on Saturday)
311/3- Omnilink/B7RLE
335/336- B6LE
934/5/6-E400
997-E400

Don't forget the 302, with B7RLEs and Scanias.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 07, 2014, 02:22:13 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 07, 2014, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 07, 2014, 08:46:28 AM
There are not enough scanias for the 4/301/311/313 to be 100 per cent scania
So 4/311/313 are fully scania and 301 has eclipse to make up.

There are at least a couple of B7's on the 311/3 most days from my observation (I've seen them on Sundays too)

4/H/M - Scania Omnilink
6 - Tridents (Mon-Sat), B7RLE (Sundays and sometimes on Mon-Sat)
7 - B7RLE (Mon-Sunday), Trident
8/89 - B7RLE (Mon-Sunday), Trident (Mon-Sat). E400's are used sometimes too
10/A - B7RLE, Trident (Mon-Sat)
29 - B7RLE
34/38/39 - B10L (Mon-Saturday), Omnilink (Mon-Sunday). B7RLE's appear on Sundays too
40/1 - A mixture out of garage but primarily Tridents, B7RLE's and sometimes E400's
51 - E400
69 - B10L and B7RLE
70/A - B7RLE
301 - Omnilink. (Double deckers appear regularly on Saturday)
311/3 - Omnilink/B7RLE
335/336 - B6LE
934/5/6 - E400
997 - E400

7A usually have Wright Eclipse Urbans.
70A can have B6LEs too, can also have double deckers (Tridents and E400s).
77 usually have Tridents, there is a school board (iirc) that has B10L or still Trident.
302 have Wright Eclipse Urbans and Scanias.
935A usually have E400s.
X51 usually have Wright Eclipse Geminis, but can have E400s, few of Tridents.
X56 usually have Wright Eclipse Urbans. 

I think that should be all the WA routes. I have also corrected Nathan's spelling errors in his quote, it looks better now. Please proof-read your posts before posting, like I have asked you three times before.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on May 08, 2014, 08:14:43 AM
Nathan, you have also omitted the B6LE duties on the 6 and 301
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 08, 2014, 08:30:01 AM
Quote from: Ashley on May 08, 2014, 08:14:43 AM
Nathan, you have also omitted the B6LE duties on the 6 and 301


I had to rush out when i posted that so certain things i forgot to add! (And Spelling Mistakes i didn't have time to check!)  I will edit my post later on today. (I guess typing fast has something to do ith the spelling mistakes)

In other news 4134 replaced 4763 on WA89 yesterday (Late Night board W89/05)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 10, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 06, 2014, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 06, 2014, 09:30:13 PM
1453 back in service

1434/1475 off road

4128 has has its rear lea more windows advert removed looking very tatty

I did notice that! :( Haven't seen both of them for nearly 4 weeks.

1434 is back in service (yay). Just saw 1434 on 39 in Wolverhampton Bus Station, it will depart at 11:16.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 12, 2014, 01:09:30 PM
1475 is back in service. Just saw it on 34 in Darlaston Bus Station, heading to Stowlawn.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 12, 2014, 10:18:17 PM
1453 off road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 12, 2014, 10:33:04 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 12, 2014, 10:18:17 PM
1453 off road

Bloody hell... 1453 only just got back in service. Will PM you.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 13, 2014, 01:42:11 PM
582 served board 39/08 from 07:29 till 13:20. It had a technical issue with the fare machine so it had to go back to the garage. There will be a replacement bus to cover 582 to continue the service. It will run dead to Wolverhampton. Just asked the customer service manager about it.

Typical it came out today and goes back in the garage because of a technical issue.

Edit: 582 is back on 39. Saw it in Bilston at 16:17, heading to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on May 17, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
Can i ask how does the 34/8/9 interwork happed. Does it do the 34 then 39 then 38 so on and so on or is it a different way?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on May 17, 2014, 07:07:00 PM
Quote from: NXDom on May 17, 2014, 04:34:23 PM
Can i ask how does the 34/8/9 interwork happed. Does it do the 34 then 39 then 38 so on and so on or is it a different way?

In the normal daytime period, buses work the 34/38, with the 39 running on its own. At the beginning/end of peak time, or after the reduced early morning period of operation on Saturdays, buses often switch between running 39s to 34/38s and vice versa. It is a very similar set up to that involving the 934/936 and 935.

I believe there is only one board, on a Saturday, which works entirely 39's. (Other than the Sunday service of course and the weekday 38E Darlaston-Walsall journey which comes off a school service).

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on May 17, 2014, 09:43:03 PM
@ notepanel how does it happen on Sunday? Do the 34 and 39 interwork at Bilston or Walsall? Or both?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 17, 2014, 10:29:29 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on May 17, 2014, 09:43:03 PM
@ notepanel how does it happen on Sunday? Do the 34 and 39 interwork at Bilston or Walsall? Or both?

Taking a guess, the 34 terminates at Bilston BS while the 39 terminates at Bilston War Memorial. 

A short distance I believe,  but I suspect the interworking is at Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on May 17, 2014, 10:33:48 PM
@ Westy @ Sh4318 the interworking IIRC is at Walsall as I caught a 39 in Bradford Pl on the what had come in displaying 34 a few months ago on a Sunday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on May 18, 2014, 11:25:13 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 17, 2014, 10:33:48 PM
@ Westy @ Sh4318 the interworking IIRC is at Walsall as I caught a 39 in Bradford Pl on the what had come in displaying 34 a few months ago on a Sunday

As far as I'm aware the 34 & 39 do not interwork on Sundays. Each service has a round-trip time of 55ish minutes so there is no need to interwork. Each route also has it's own board 34/01 & 39/01.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JackC on May 20, 2014, 06:19:17 PM
Just passed an unidentified Scania being hooked up to a Mansfield lorry after expiring on All Saints Way while presumably running the 4 to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 22, 2014, 07:35:17 PM
1778 on the 89 this evening on board W89/03 which is always usually double deck operated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 23, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
I saw 2 drivers, on separate occasions, wearing a blue hi-vis jacket. Could anyone explain what the jacket is?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 23, 2014, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 23, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
I saw 2 drivers, on separate occasions, wearing a blue hi-vis jacket. Could anyone explain what the jacket is?


The blue hi viz jackets are for 301 drivers with Passenger Champion printed on them.
Also WB 40 route has the blue hi viz as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on May 23, 2014, 10:42:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 22, 2014, 07:35:17 PM
1778 on the 89 this evening on board W89/03 which is always usually double deck operated

I was on that bus. It's more often B7RLE's on that board with the other one being a Trident as was the case last night
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 23, 2014, 11:04:09 PM
@Ashley, I see the 19:05 ex Wolves most nights (Sometimes catch it if i can't be bothered to catch a 59) and it is pretty much always a double decker (Usually a Trident).

4332 is on WA89/03 tonight (The board 1778 was on)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 10:46:44 AM
@lynx1103 - Passenger Champion? What's that mean when it's at home?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 24, 2014, 11:39:46 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 23, 2014, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 23, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
I saw 2 drivers, on separate occasions, wearing a blue hi-vis jacket. Could anyone explain what the jacket is?

The blue hi viz jackets are for 301 drivers with Passenger Champion printed on them.
Also WB 40 route has the blue hi viz as well.

Thanks for the answer. I did not know it was exclusive to 301 because the first time I saw a male driver with a blue hi-vis jacket was on 1446 on 39. The second time was a female driver on 677 on 301. (I have a great memory haha!)

Can I ask are these blue hi-vis jackets being allocated to -every- 301 driver or just -specific- drivers whom have been chosen? LS just beat me to it, what is "Passenger Champion"?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on May 24, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 10:46:44 AM
@lynx1103 - Passenger Champion? What's that mean when it's at home?

@Liverpool Street - I'm guessing they've been trained in exemplary customer service - perhaps like Waitrose compared to Aldi. Unfortunately the word champion applied to everyday tasks as a dreamt up Managememt/HR/marketing term makes me think of Champion the Wonder Horse - not what's intended at all I guess. It wouldn't have happened in BCT days (or WCBC Transport days for that matter  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 11:51:19 AM
They are allocated to all 19 designated 301 drivers

Passenger champion is just an idea in a fight back to compete against diamond on 301.

WB 40 drivers have the same Hi Viz

One driver on Bradford Place rota has blue hiviz as he trains new drivers on routes
Known as buddy driver before they go out on there own.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: don on May 24, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 10:46:44 AM
@lynx1103 - Passenger Champion? What's that mean when it's at home?

@Liverpool Street - I'm guessing they've been trained in exemplary customer service - perhaps like Waitrose compared to Aldi. Unfortunately the word champion applied to everyday tasks as a dreamt up Managememt/HR/marketing term makes me think of Champion the Wonder Horse - not what's intended at all I guess. It wouldn't have happened in BCT days (or WCBC Transport days for that matter  ;)

Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one then ;) haha That's the one with Frankie Laine? [Or Lane, either way]
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 24, 2014, 12:21:38 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 11:51:19 AM
They are allocated to all 19 designated 301 drivers

Passenger champion is just an idea in a fight back to compete against diamond on 301.

WB 40 drivers have the same Hi Viz

One driver on Bradford Place rota has blue hiviz as he trains new drivers on routes
Known as buddy driver before they go out on their own.

Ahh, interesting! That explains why I saw one on 39. Thank you for answering.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on May 24, 2014, 01:57:03 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 11:51:19 AM
They are allocated to all 19 designated 301 drivers

Passenger champion is just an idea in a fight back to compete against diamond on 301.

WB 40 drivers have the same Hi Viz

One driver on Bradford Place rota has blue hiviz as he trains new drivers on routes
Known as buddy driver before they go out on there own.

Thanks for clarifying - anything which improves customer service has to be a good initiative.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on May 24, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: don on May 24, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 10:46:44 AM
@lynx1103 - Passenger Champion? What's that mean when it's at home?

@Liverpool Street - I'm guessing they've been trained in exemplary customer service - perhaps like Waitrose compared to Aldi. Unfortunately the word champion applied to everyday tasks as a dreamt up Managememt/HR/marketing term makes me think of Champion the Wonder Horse - not what's intended at all I guess. It wouldn't have happened in BCT days (or WCBC Transport days for that matter  ;)

Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one then ;) haha That's the one with Frankie Laine? [Or Lane, either way]

Indeed Frankie Laine sang the theme song along with Rawhide and Blazing Saddles - though he wasn't told before he did it the last one was a parody of old western films, a comedy involving such gems as baked bean eating cowboys and severe farting!! Off topic - smacked wrist.....sorry mods.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 02:10:00 PM
Quote from: don on May 24, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: don on May 24, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 10:46:44 AM
@lynx1103 - Passenger Champion? What's that mean when it's at home?

@Liverpool Street - I'm guessing they've been trained in exemplary customer service - perhaps like Waitrose compared to Aldi. Unfortunately the word champion applied to everyday tasks as a dreamt up Managememt/HR/marketing term makes me think of Champion the Wonder Horse - not what's intended at all I guess. It wouldn't have happened in BCT days (or WCBC Transport days for that matter  ;)

Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one then ;) haha That's the one with Frankie Laine? [Or Lane, either way]

Indeed Frankie Laine sang the theme song along with Rawhide and Blazing Saddles - though he wasn't told before he did it the last one was a parody of old western films, a comedy involving such gems as baked bean eating cowboys and severe farting!! Off topic - smacked wrist.....sorry mods.

John Agee was the person who trained Champion in those series, IIRC.

Proper western comedy, don't get any such gems in today's backward society. Thanks for the excellent flashbacks there, Don!

Suppose we better get back on topic though, I'm not one for breaking the rules.. lol

--

Do we know if it's only Walsall Garage which have these blue-viz'd drivers or is it rolled out across all garages?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 24, 2014, 02:28:26 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 02:10:00 PM
*snip*

Do we know if it's only Walsall Garage which have these blue-viz'd drivers or is it rolled out across all garages?

Lynx1103 did say WB40 drivers have the blue hi-vis jackets as well. Although, I am not entirely sure about other garages.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 24, 2014, 04:42:37 PM
Quote from: don on May 24, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 12:09:31 PM
Quote from: don on May 24, 2014, 11:43:04 AM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 10:46:44 AM
@lynx1103 - Passenger Champion? What's that mean when it's at home?

@Liverpool Street - I'm guessing they've been trained in exemplary customer service - perhaps like Waitrose compared to Aldi. Unfortunately the word champion applied to everyday tasks as a dreamt up Managememt/HR/marketing term makes me think of Champion the Wonder Horse - not what's intended at all I guess. It wouldn't have happened in BCT days (or WCBC Transport days for that matter  ;)

Haha, I'm glad I'm not the only one then ;) haha That's the one with Frankie Laine? [Or Lane, either way]

Indeed Frankie Laine sang the theme song along with Rawhide and Blazing Saddles - though he wasn't told before he did it the last one was a parody of old western films, a comedy involving such gems as baked bean eating cowboys and severe farting!! Off topic - smacked wrist.....sorry mods.

One of the first films we rented when we first got a video in 1983.

Still a favourite to this day, along with Police Academy!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on May 24, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Are NX turning up the heat on Diamond again?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PM on May 24, 2014, 05:45:54 PM
Undoubtedly as Diamond on the 301 are praised on their customer service. Quite how you will ever match customer service as long as there are assault screens though. I am aware of the fact NX buses need assault screens...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: nitromatt1 on May 24, 2014, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 24, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun- (http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-)

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Are NX turning up the heat on Diamond again?

NX can turn the heat up as much as they want, but diamond won't melt! (chemistry joke)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on May 24, 2014, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 24, 2014, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 24, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun- (http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-)

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Are NX turning up the heat on Diamond again?

NX can turn the heat up as much as they want, but diamond won't melt! (chemistry joke)

I wonder if Diamond's recently launched 'Value' tickets & other ticket promotions have had an effect on NX passenger numbers?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PM on May 24, 2014, 05:55:35 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 24, 2014, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 24, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun- (http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-)

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Are NX turning up the heat on Diamond again?

NX can turn the heat up as much as they want, but diamond won't melt! (chemistry joke)

Haha classic humour from someone doing GCSE's no doubt ;)

I also wonder, Winston, and also the real increase in quality on there as well with the DP b7rle's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on May 24, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Apart from different colour hi viz vests, have these drivers undergone any additional customer care training or anything like that? Are they required to do things like smile / acknowledge the passengers existence or things like that? (Yes I know some bus passengers don't deserve such courtesy).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Mike K on May 24, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Apart from different colour hi viz vests, have these drivers undergone any additional customer care training or anything like that? Are they required to do things like smile / acknowledge the passengers existence or things like that? (Yes I know some bus passengers don't deserve such courtesy).

Who's side are you on Mick?! Grrr....

[ ;) ]
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on May 24, 2014, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Mike K on May 24, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Apart from different colour hi viz vests, have these drivers undergone any additional customer care training or anything like that? Are they required to do things like smile / acknowledge the passengers existence or things like that? (Yes I know some bus passengers don't deserve such courtesy).

Who's side are you on Mick?! Grrr....

[ ;) ]

All very tongue in cheek LS, as you know. I'm not sure I'd acknowledge some of the creatures that infest our public transport if I were a driver.

But it'll take more than blue hi viz vests to beat Diamond.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 24, 2014, 08:59:05 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 24, 2014, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 24, 2014, 05:48:59 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 24, 2014, 05:39:36 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun- (http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-)

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Are NX turning up the heat on Diamond again?

NX can turn the heat up as much as they want, but diamond won't melt! (chemistry joke)

I wonder if Diamond's recently launched 'Value' tickets & other ticket promotions have had an effect on NX passenger numbers?

Surely it depends on where else the passenger is going onto?

If you're only going as far as Walsall, & you're not locked into a particular operator with a travel pass, then you catch the first operator that comes, unless you need a return ticket for some reason.

If you're going further than Walsall, Birmingham or in my case Wednesbury, there's no competing route, so you're stuck with NX whether you like it or not, so you have to have their day ticket/travel pass.

(Mind you, for reasons mentioned elsewhere, I will start coming home via Great Bridge & West Bromwich, if I don't get a lift, as the evening peak that way seems more reliable than via Wednesbury!)

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 09:21:16 PM
Quote from: Mike K on May 24, 2014, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Mike K on May 24, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Apart from different colour hi viz vests, have these drivers undergone any additional customer care training or anything like that? Are they required to do things like smile / acknowledge the passengers existence or things like that? (Yes I know some bus passengers don't deserve such courtesy).

Who's side are you on Mick?! Grrr....

[ ;) ]

All very tongue in cheek LS, as you know. I'm not sure I'd acknowledge some of the creatures that infest our public transport if I were a driver.

But it'll take more than blue hi viz vests to beat Diamond.

Oh, I know indeed Mike! I don't know how you'd supposed to give good service to some of the animals on board mate, I know I didn't! Although, 20 inch arms tended to get instant respect so it might explain why I didn't get much hassle ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on May 24, 2014, 09:35:13 PM
Quote from: Mike K on May 24, 2014, 08:53:58 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 07:32:34 PM
Quote from: Mike K on May 24, 2014, 06:07:02 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 05:36:23 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 24, 2014, 05:05:44 PM
Probably explains a bit further about these blue issue:

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/news/driving-mavericks-make-bus-top-gun-

No this is Seperate regarding blue ties

Passenger champion is a bid to drive more revenue onto NXWM from
Diamond routes.

Apart from different colour hi viz vests, have these drivers undergone any additional customer care training or anything like that? Are they required to do things like smile / acknowledge the passengers existence or things like that? (Yes I know some bus passengers don't deserve such courtesy).

Who's side are you on Mick?! Grrr....

[ ;) ]

All very tongue in cheek LS, as you know. I'm not sure I'd acknowledge some of the creatures that infest our public transport if I were a driver.

But it'll take more than blue hi viz vests to beat Diamond.

They'll need an MPD to go with those blue vests...... :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 10:12:08 PM
On 301 day returns are

NXWM £3.20 day return
Diamond £2.50 day return

If use the bus 2-3 times a week diamond more likely to apeal
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PM on May 24, 2014, 10:17:41 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 24, 2014, 10:12:08 PM
On 301 day returns are

NXWM £3.20 day return
Diamond £2.50 day return

If use the bus 2-3 times a week diamond more likely to apeal

Plus a £25 month ticket and links to West Brom, Halesowen, Great Bridge, Tipton and Bilston. Birmingham-bound services are Diamond's weak point.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on June 03, 2014, 07:20:01 PM
Some interesting running board changes to note over at WA from next week are listed below...

* Board W41/07, which currently operates the 705 service before going on to the 40/41 (including late night 40Es), will now operate a full length 997 and then a short X51 (Birmingham-Scott Arms) prior to following its original board. I'm unsure if this will likely be Enviro operated as a result.
* The 0924 302 service ex Walsall will now come off the X51 (having previously operated two round trips). Again, this is likely to be Gemini or Enviro operated.
* The PM X56 service will now be operated by a bus that has come off service 10/A (board 10/07). This will then operate an X51 (1655 ex Walsall) into Birmingham before operating the X56.
* Board 336/01 will no longer operate the round trip on the 6. It will return straight to depot after completing the 335.  Evening journeys on the 6 & 10 will all be operated by previous all day 6/10 boards.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 03, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: notepanel on June 03, 2014, 07:20:01 PM
Some interesting running board changes to note over at WA from next week are listed below...

* Board W41/07, which currently operates the 705 service before going on to the 40/41 (including late night 40Es), will now operate a full length 997 and then a short X51 (Birmingham-Scott Arms) prior to following its original board. I'm unsure if this will likely be Enviro operated as a result.
* The 0924 302 service ex Walsall will now come off the X51 (having previously operated two round trips). Again, this is likely to be Gemini or Enviro operated.
* The PM X56 service will now be operated by a bus that has come off service 10/A (board 10/07). This will then operate an X51 (1655 ex Walsall) into Birmingham before operating the X56.
* Board 336/01 will no longer operate the round trip on the 6. It will return straight to depot after completing the 335.  Evening journeys on the 6 & 10 will all be operated by previous all day 6/10 boards.

Are we still getting that B6 on the 301 that comes off the Alumwell route?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 04, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
1453 out today on 69

1130 Walsall
1330
1530
1740
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 04, 2014, 01:55:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 04, 2014, 11:25:03 AM
1453 out today on 69

1130 Walsall
1330
1530
1740

Thanks, lynx1103! I saw 1453 back in service on Monday, serving 39. Glad to see it back on road again.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on June 04, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 03, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: notepanel on June 03, 2014, 07:20:01 PM
Some interesting running board changes to note over at WA from next week are listed below...

* Board W41/07, which currently operates the 705 service before going on to the 40/41 (including late night 40Es), will now operate a full length 997 and then a short X51 (Birmingham-Scott Arms) prior to following its original board. I'm unsure if this will likely be Enviro operated as a result.
* The 0924 302 service ex Walsall will now come off the X51 (having previously operated two round trips). Again, this is likely to be Gemini or Enviro operated.
* The PM X56 service will now be operated by a bus that has come off service 10/A (board 10/07). This will then operate an X51 (1655 ex Walsall) into Birmingham before operating the X56.
* Board 336/01 will no longer operate the round trip on the 6. It will return straight to depot after completing the 335.  Evening journeys on the 6 & 10 will all be operated by previous all day 6/10 boards.

Are we still getting that B6 on the 301 that comes off the Alumwell route?

Yes board 335/01 will continue as currently, going on to the 301 & 302 for a light night.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on June 04, 2014, 08:02:07 PM
Quote from: notepanel on June 04, 2014, 07:17:55 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 03, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
Quote from: notepanel on June 03, 2014, 07:20:01 PM
Some interesting running board changes to note over at WA from next week are listed below...

* Board W41/07, which currently operates the 705 service before going on to the 40/41 (including late night 40Es), will now operate a full length 997 and then a short X51 (Birmingham-Scott Arms) prior to following its original board. I'm unsure if this will likely be Enviro operated as a result.
* The 0924 302 service ex Walsall will now come off the X51 (having previously operated two round trips). Again, this is likely to be Gemini or Enviro operated.
* The PM X56 service will now be operated by a bus that has come off service 10/A (board 10/07). This will then operate an X51 (1655 ex Walsall) into Birmingham before operating the X56.
* Board 336/01 will no longer operate the round trip on the 6. It will return straight to depot after completing the 335.  Evening journeys on the 6 & 10 will all be operated by previous all day 6/10 boards.

Are we still getting that B6 on the 301 that comes off the Alumwell route?

Yes board 335/01 will continue as currently, going on to the 301 & 302 for a light night.

So basically i've got thursday night and friday night to get my last two b6le journeys probably ever on the 6?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on June 05, 2014, 04:12:17 PM
Which B6 is on 3r5/02 today? If anybody knows I'd be grateful
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 06, 2014, 07:23:59 AM
1896 broke down in Wednesbury Bus station, blocking 311/313 Dudley stand.

Taking a guess, it was operating 649 311 from Walsall.

( I was on the 659 313 after! )
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: OH25 on June 07, 2014, 07:44:51 PM
1855 on the 4 must have been in an accident
by the McDonalds by Sandwell Hospital at 4:55pm
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 10, 2014, 07:27:13 AM
The guy driving 1893 this morning hasn't been on the 311/313 for sometime as he's just gone down Wednesbury Parkway by mistake!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 10, 2014, 11:45:07 AM
A Walsall bound 935 came out of Greenholm Road, and turned left onto Kingstanding Road at 11.20am. Don't know why as the next one I saw a few minutes later used the normal route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 10, 2014, 05:12:47 PM
A Gem double decker in service on the 41 has no working destination display,  displaying 41 Walsall on a A4 piece of paper.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 10, 2014, 05:50:45 PM
Quote from: John on June 10, 2014, 11:45:07 AM
A Walsall bound 935 came out of Greenholm Road, and turned left onto Kingstanding Road at 11.20am. Don't know why as the next one I saw a few minutes later used the normal route

Driver on autopilot? Thought he was doing a 997 run? Had that with an X56 a month or so back, he decided to go under at One Stop as per 934/5/6. Took a novel route to get back on course, via Wellhead Lane and the Wellington Rd roundabout
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on June 10, 2014, 05:56:03 PM
1441 was taken back to wn garage as it broke down at the island by bilston bus station and followed near enough the 25 route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 10, 2014, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: NXDom on June 10, 2014, 05:56:03 PM
1441 was taken back to wn garage as it broke down at the island by bilston bus station and followed near enough the 25 route.

I assume you mean 1431? :) 1441 isn't here, sadly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on June 10, 2014, 06:16:25 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 10, 2014, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: NXDom on June 10, 2014, 05:56:03 PM
1441 was taken back to wn garage as it broke down at the island by bilston bus station and followed near enough the 25 route.

I assume you mean 1431? :) 1441 isn't here, sadly.
No it had rollers. it was 1440 my mistake.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 10, 2014, 06:20:33 PM
Quote from: NXDom on June 10, 2014, 06:16:25 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 10, 2014, 06:00:05 PM
Quote from: NXDom on June 10, 2014, 05:56:03 PM
1441 was taken back to wn garage as it broke down at the island by bilston bus station and followed near enough the 25 route.

I assume you mean 1431? :) 1441 isn't here, sadly.
No it had rollers. it was 1440 my mistake.

Orite, gotcha. 1430 is the B10L that has a digital destination blind. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on June 15, 2014, 03:08:43 PM
Noticed 4769 displays have changed route number is bigger destination has gone smaller, superX i belive is the correct term
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 15, 2014, 07:57:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on June 15, 2014, 03:08:43 PM
Noticed 4769 displays have changed route number is bigger destination has gone smaller, superX i belive is the correct term

Yes it now has a Super-X display
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 18, 2014, 03:05:57 PM
4736 and 4873 are both on WA89 today. Seen 4736 at 08:35 on the Lichfield Rd in Wednesfield going towards Walsall. E400's and Omnilinks have been a commonplace on the route over the past few weeks (Tridents and B7RLE's still appear too)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 18, 2014, 07:11:51 PM
The 301 I catch every morning just after half 6 in Bloxwich has been a B7LRE the past 2 mornings rather than a Scania!

Update this morning : Back to a Scania!

Must admit prefer the B7 meself.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on June 20, 2014, 07:02:08 PM
4128 on X51 and 4137(?) on 935
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 20, 2014, 07:25:25 PM
Quote from: N94 on June 20, 2014, 07:02:08 PM
4128 on X51 and 4137(?) on 935

Seen quite a few tridents on the x51 recently, especially in the evening, maybe it's from the timetable changes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 23, 2014, 07:01:49 AM
1901 broken down in Walsall Bradford Place this morning.

Taking a guess it was down for the 649 311 departure unless anyone knows otherwise.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 24, 2014, 05:13:32 PM
1886 broken down at Bescot Road,  Pleck,  towards Walsall.

Was on the 313.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on June 25, 2014, 01:24:54 PM
4769 has gained an over the door advert (:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jay on June 27, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
been fined £150.000 over the death of the machine back in 2011 at the garge
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 27, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Naughty  driver on the 659am 313 left 5 minutes early from Walsall this morning.

I know he was early as he got to Wednesbury & the previous 311 was still on the stand!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 27, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 27, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Naughty  driver on the 659am 313 left 5 minutes early from Walsall this morning.

I know he was early as he got to Wednesbury & the previous 311 was still on the stand!

Well the GPS on his bus says he left Walsall a couple of minutes late. Remember he gets 21 minutes to get to Wednesbury. When I was driving at Walsall you used to get 12 on the early morning journeys!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 27, 2014, 11:33:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 27, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Naughty  driver on the 659am 313 left 5 minutes early from Walsall this morning.

I know he was early as he got to Wednesbury & the previous 311 was still on the stand!

Well the GPS on his bus says he left Walsall a couple of minutes late. Remember he gets 21 minutes to get to Wednesbury. When I was driving at Walsall you used to get 12 on the early morning journeys!

Normally I arrive at work about 740am, including the infamous walk from the Parkway stop down the Spine Road.

Today I went through the door at 730am & it was definitely a 313 I was on!

I remember looking at my watch when we left Walsall & it said 654.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 28, 2014, 08:35:38 AM
Quote from: Westy on June 27, 2014, 11:33:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 27, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Naughty  driver on the 659am 313 left 5 minutes early from Walsall this morning.

I know he was early as he got to Wednesbury & the previous 311 was still on the stand!

Well the GPS on his bus says he left Walsall a couple of minutes late. Remember he gets 21 minutes to get to Wednesbury. When I was driving at Walsall you used to get 12 on the early morning journeys!

Normally I arrive at work about 740am, including the infamous walk from the Parkway stop down the Spine Road.

Today I went through the door at 730am & it was definitely a 313 I was on!

I remember looking at my watch when we left Walsall & it said 654.

If it was 1894 then that was the 06:39 running 14 minutes late.
The 06:59 was 1884
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 28, 2014, 08:59:50 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 28, 2014, 08:35:38 AM
Quote from: Westy on June 27, 2014, 11:33:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2014, 08:06:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 27, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Naughty  driver on the 659am 313 left 5 minutes early from Walsall this morning.

I know he was early as he got to Wednesbury & the previous 311 was still on the stand!

Well the GPS on his bus says he left Walsall a couple of minutes late. Remember he gets 21 minutes to get to Wednesbury. When I was driving at Walsall you used to get 12 on the early morning journeys!

Normally I arrive at work about 740am, including the infamous walk from the Parkway stop down the Spine Road.

Today I went through the door at 730am & it was definitely a 313 I was on!

I remember looking at my watch when we left Walsall & it said 654.

If it was 1894 then that was the 06:39 running 14 minutes late.
The 06:59 was 1884

Sorry didn't check the number.

If he was 14 minutes late, depending on the reason why,  couldn't he have picked up service further along the route?

Another bus would have gone from Walsall by then surely?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on June 30, 2014, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: Jon on June 27, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
been fined £150.000 over the death of the machine back in 2011 at the garge

Could someone help me with this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 30, 2014, 11:20:54 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on June 30, 2014, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: Jon on June 27, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
been fined £150.000 over the death of the machine back in 2011 at the garge

Could someone help me with this?

http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/regional-affairs/national-express-west-midlands-fined-7339400
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on June 30, 2014, 11:56:30 AM
Quote from: Winston on June 30, 2014, 11:20:54 AM
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/regional-affairs/national-express-west-midlands-fined-7339400

Thank you.  Desperately tragic.  Enough said.

Yes! Best to leave it there, Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on July 01, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
1430 is to be scraped
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 01, 2014, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on July 01, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
1430 is to be scraped

Shame 1430 died. She was a great bus. The last B10L with a digital blind.

On another note, I saw 1453 this morning, it was not in service and presumably ran dead to Wolverhampton and then served WA69. What happened?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: NXWM Spectra on July 01, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 01, 2014, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on July 01, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
1430 is to be scraped

Shame 1430 died. She was a great bus. The last B10L with a digital blind.

On another note, I saw 1453 this morning, it was not in service and presumably ran dead to Wolverhampton and then served WA69. What happened?

What time was this? I've heard that the bus due to be at the stop by the Albion pub just before 08:00 this morning didn't turn up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 01, 2014, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 01, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 01, 2014, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on July 01, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
1430 is to be scraped

Shame 1430 died. She was a great bus. The last B10L with a digital blind.

On another note, I saw 1453 this morning, it was not in service and presumably ran dead to Wolverhampton and then served WA69. What happened?

What time was this? I've heard that the bus due to be at the stop by the Albion pub just before 08:00 this morning didn't turn up.

I was on 335 and saw 1453 past by the Crown Wharf, Walsall around 11:55am.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: NXWM Spectra on July 01, 2014, 08:29:33 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 01, 2014, 08:24:42 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on July 01, 2014, 08:23:00 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 01, 2014, 08:09:31 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on July 01, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
1430 is to be scraped

Shame 1430 died. She was a great bus. The last B10L with a digital blind.

On another note, I saw 1453 this morning, it was not in service and presumably ran dead to Wolverhampton and then served WA69. What happened?

What time was this? I've heard that the bus due to be at the stop by the Albion pub just before 08:00 this morning didn't turn up.

I was on 335 and saw 1453 past by the Crown Wharf, Walsall around 11:55am.

If that bus didn't turn up, a replacement would have been put out a lot sooner. I don't know what 1453 went on to do then.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 02, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Saw at least two 69E trips from Walsall towards W'ton yesterday (One was to Wednesfield but didn't see the destination of the other so i assume that was just to Wednesfield too)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on July 02, 2014, 12:42:41 PM
4313 at Walsall  on 29 today

51 branded 4868 on 77
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 02, 2014, 11:54:10 PM
Just come back home on the 2330 302 from Walsall.

Two kids aged 10 I'd say on the bus alone.

Why aren't their parents worried?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 03, 2014, 06:36:59 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 02, 2014, 11:54:10 PM
Just come back home on the 2330 302 from Walsall.

Two kids aged 10 I'd say on the bus alone.

Why aren't their parents worried?

maybe their parents don't actually care? Plenty of that sort around
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 03, 2014, 06:48:48 AM
First X51 this morning was either early or over 10 mins late, or indeed not running at all... Sure someone in the know will tell us which is correct, but now I'm late for being early for work (yeah work that one out....)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2014, 08:17:37 PM
I have got a nice train ride tomorrow morning. Off to pick up another Scania which is going to Walsall for about 5 weeks. No I haven't got the exact ID yet before anyone asks. I won't know until I arrive at the pick up point, but expect a photo tomorrow night!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: pb2012 on July 03, 2014, 08:20:17 PM
single or double?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on July 03, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 02, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Saw at least two 69E trips from Walsall towards W'ton yesterday (One was to Wednesfield but didn't see the destination of the other so i assume that was just to Wednesfield too)

One 69E terminates at Wednesfield High Street, the B7RLE dedicated journey. The 69E 30 minutes behind terminates at New Invention, Square, a destination that B10L's have on their blinds
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2014, 08:45:53 PM
Quote from: pb2012 on July 03, 2014, 08:20:17 PM
single or double?

Single deck
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 03, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 03, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 02, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Saw at least two 69E trips from Walsall towards W'ton yesterday (One was to Wednesfield but didn't see the destination of the other so i assume that was just to Wednesfield too)

One 69E terminates at Wednesfield High Street, the B7RLE dedicated journey. The 69E 30 minutes behind terminates at New Invention, Square, a destination that B10L's have on their blinds

Is there a chance Walsall's remaining roller blinds might be updated or is that it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 03, 2014, 09:17:48 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 03, 2014, 09:13:00 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 03, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 02, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Saw at least two 69E trips from Walsall towards W'ton yesterday (One was to Wednesfield but didn't see the destination of the other so i assume that was just to Wednesfield too)

One 69E terminates at Wednesfield High Street, the B7RLE dedicated journey. The 69E 30 minutes behind terminates at New Invention, Square, a destination that B10L's have on their blinds

Is there a chance Walsall's remaining roller blinds might be updated or is that it?

I doubt it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 03, 2014, 10:41:49 PM
Quote from: Ashley on July 03, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 02, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Saw at least two 69E trips from Walsall towards W'ton yesterday (One was to Wednesfield but didn't see the destination of the other so i assume that was just to Wednesfield too)

One 69E terminates at Wednesfield High Street, the B7RLE dedicated journey. The 69E 30 minutes behind terminates at New Invention, Square, a destination that B10L's have on their blinds

Yes thats the one that terminates at Wednesfield about 18:4* or round about :) One was seen displaying 69E on the side blinds in the middle of the day and another was a B7RLE just after 3PM displaying 69E to Wednesfield (However that one could have been a case of the wrong display showing)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on July 04, 2014, 10:52:40 PM
NX Levante SR102 is parked at WA garage

Look at Tony's fantastic picture of it on main site page
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 05, 2014, 07:01:48 PM
I was a bit surprised when 4735 arrived in Walsall Bus Station at 18:15, it finished the service, the driver changed the display to "Walsall Garage" front and side, the back displayed "WA". It looked great, different from "Sorry! Not in Service".
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 07, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Was there any issues on the Dudley to Walsall route this evening between 430 & 515?

Had to wait ages at the Parkway today!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 07, 2014, 10:09:10 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 07, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Was there any issues on the Dudley to Walsall route this evening between 430 & 515?

Had to wait ages at the Parkway today!

Don't know what it was, but I can see the gap you are on about.

The 16:35 from Wednesbury Bus Station was on time, you must have just missed that one
The 16:43 from Wednesbury broke down (1902) replaced by 1888 which started from Wednesbury Bus Station, so didn't get to you, then all the next few left Dudley on time but lost between 12 & 15 minutes between Dudley & Tipton creating a 42 minute gap where you were waiting
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 08, 2014, 05:08:50 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 07, 2014, 10:09:10 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 07, 2014, 06:35:11 PM
Was there any issues on the Dudley to Walsall route this evening between 430 & 515?

Had to wait ages at the Parkway today!

Don't know what it was, but I can see the gap you are on about.

The 16:35 from Wednesbury Bus Station was on time, you must have just missed that one
The 16:43 from Wednesbury broke down (1902) replaced by 1888 which started from Wednesbury Bus Station, so didn't get to you, then all the next few left Dudley on time but lost between 12 & 15 minutes between Dudley & Tipton creating a 42 minute gap where you were waiting

Cheers Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 10, 2014, 09:44:49 AM
A 997 branded just passed me on Bloxwich High St. I wonder what it was doing as it had nothing on the LED display
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on July 16, 2014, 08:55:51 PM
51 branded buses getting around a bit today

4857-X51
4858-302
48xx-10/10A

All PM peak board

301-1454
10/A-1881
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 16, 2014, 09:09:32 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on July 16, 2014, 08:55:51 PM
51 branded buses getting around a bit today

4857-X51
4858-302
48xx-10/10A

All PM peak board

301-1454
10/A-1881

probably why 4305 was on the 51 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on July 17, 2014, 11:33:37 AM
4 Y7** TOH ALX400's spotted on 934/5/6 this morning heading towards Birmingham.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 21, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
There were two Omnilinks (1885/6) parked up at Dudley bus station at 13:30 this afternoom NIS and a B7RLE had just left on the 311.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 21, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 21, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
There were two Omnilinks (1885/6) parked up at Dudley bus station at 13:30 this afternoom NIS and a B7RLE had just left on the 311.

Bet they still haven't fixed that offside fleetname on 1885 either?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on July 21, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 21, 2014, 07:42:56 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 21, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
There were two Omnilinks (1885/6) parked up at Dudley bus station at 13:30 this afternoom NIS and a B7RLE had just left on the 311.

Bet they still haven't fixed that offside fleetname on 1885 either?

There were two B7RLE's on 311/313 today, 1758 being one
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 22, 2014, 10:36:17 PM
Do the cannock bound x51s still run dead back to garage?  Saw one at 625 tonight headin along the walsall road in cannock displaying X51 Bloxwich! 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 22, 2014, 11:26:43 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 22, 2014, 10:36:17 PM
Do the cannock bound x51s still run dead back to garage?  Saw one at 625 tonight headin along the walsall road in cannock displaying X51 Bloxwich!

Think the last change involved them running back to Bloxwich in service.

The third bus from Birmingham that runs north of Walsall now only runs to Bloxwich!

(I suspect if there is no one on board by the time it reaches the Stokes Street stop on Somerfield Road,  it will finish early & turn right onto High Street & run dead back to the depot that way. I know for a fact that has happened in the past as I was on  one such vehicle! )
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 22, 2014, 11:43:37 PM
Yea bit of a daft trip tho cannock to bloxwich cant imagine therell be many takers.  Although possibly a cheaper option than the 2. Unless its advertised and known about though people wont use it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 23, 2014, 12:01:51 AM
I was waiting for X51 17:45 departure in Birmingham other day, the Gemini displayed "X51 Bloxwich". I thought it was a mistake but asked the driver if he was going to Cannock, he said no. I went on it anyway, to Walsall. There are now 17:05 and 17:25 departures to Cannock from Birmingham. I was wondering why the 17:45 departure route shortened to Bloxwich from Birmingham? The worst thing is, I didn't even know the route changes. I tried to look up on nwm website for information but nothing at all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 23, 2014, 07:24:25 PM
1434 is back in service. 1434 was serving WA 39, seen it in Oxford Street, Bilston at 16:53. Good to see her back on the road after a long break!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on July 23, 2014, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 23, 2014, 12:01:51 AM
I was waiting for X51 17:45 departure in Birmingham other day, the Gemini displayed "X51 Bloxwich". I thought it was a mistake but asked the driver if he was going to Cannock, he said no. I went on it anyway, to Walsall. There are now 17:05 and 17:25 departures to Cannock from Birmingham. I was wondering why the 17:45 departure route shortened to Bloxwich from Birmingham? The worst thing is, I didn't even know the route changes. I tried to look up on nwm website for information but nothing at all.

It was hidden amongst the details for the X51 Walsall-Birmingham frequency increase. I travelled on the first bus from Walsall-Cannock last week, which arrived after the second bus was meant to have departed (this was the day there was an accident on the M6 & another collision which would have caused traffic issues in Birmingham). I was the only passenger to board at Walsall (although to be fair there was a 1 & a 2 on stand at the same time) & about 6 of us got off in Cannock.

I then caught the second bus back (which was also twenty minutes late) back to Bloxwich, I was the only passenger on board and was guaranteed by the driver I would be the only passenger the whole way!

What was previously the third bus as previously stated now terminates at Bloxwich.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 23, 2014, 08:15:10 PM
Quote from: notepanel on July 23, 2014, 07:59:09 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 23, 2014, 12:01:51 AM
I was waiting for X51 17:45 departure in Birmingham other day, the Gemini displayed "X51 Bloxwich". I thought it was a mistake but asked the driver if he was going to Cannock, he said no. I went on it anyway, to Walsall. There are now 17:05 and 17:25 departures to Cannock from Birmingham. I was wondering why the 17:45 departure route shortened to Bloxwich from Birmingham? The worst thing is, I didn't even know the route changes. I tried to look up on nwm website for information but nothing at all.

It was hidden amongst the details for the X51 Walsall-Birmingham frequency increase. I travelled on the first bus from Walsall-Cannock last week, which arrived after the second bus was meant to have departed (this was the day there was an accident on the M6 & another collision which would have caused traffic issues in Birmingham). I was the only passenger to board at Walsall (although to be fair there was a 1 & a 2 on stand at the same time) & about 6 of us got off in Cannock.

I then caught the second bus back (which was also twenty minutes late) back to Bloxwich, I was the only passenger on board and was guaranteed by the driver I would be the only passenger the whole way!

What was previously the third bus as previously stated now terminates at Bloxwich.

Wonder how long they will last then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 09, 2014, 06:34:48 PM
4328 out on 40/41 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 11, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today

That's quite unexpected in my opinion. Maybe they are transferring Gemini's to WA which will displace Tridents to WN to replace some more Mercedes?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 11, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today

That's quite unexpected in my opinion. Maybe they are transferring Gemini's to WA which will displace Tridents to WN to replace some more Mercedes?

Why would they transfer tridents into Walsall (4327/8; 4139), if they were going to transfer Tridents out?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 11, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today

That's quite unexpected in my opinion. Maybe they are transferring Gemini's to WA which will displace Tridents to WN to replace some more Mercedes?

Why would they transfer tridents into Walsall (4327/8; 4139), if they were going to transfer Tridents out?

Sorry Tony, Completely forgot about those Tridents transferring back to WA. Its that time of night when i don't think properly ;)

Do you know if these are replacing anything at WA?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on August 11, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today

That's quite unexpected in my opinion. Maybe they are transferring Gemini's to WA which will displace Tridents to WN to replace some more Mercedes?

Why would they transfer tridents into Walsall (4327/8; 4139), if they were going to transfer Tridents out?

Sorry Tony, Completely forgot about those Tridents transferring back to WA. Its that time of night when i don't think properly ;)

Do you know if these are replacing anything at WA?

Replacements for 546, 1430 and 1474 as stated in earlier comments
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 11, 2014, 09:58:23 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 11, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today

That's quite unexpected in my opinion. Maybe they are transferring Gemini's to WA which will displace Tridents to WN to replace some more Mercedes?

Why would they transfer tridents into Walsall (4327/8; 4139), if they were going to transfer Tridents out?

Sorry Tony, Completely forgot about those Tridents transferring back to WA. Its that time of night when i don't think properly ;)

Do you know if these are replacing anything at WA?

Replacements for 546, 1430 and 1474 as stated in earlier comments

4139,4327 and 4328 have replaced those. I was asking if 4534 (And any others that transfer) will replace anything
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 12, 2014, 06:30:59 AM
Quote from: Ashley on August 11, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today

That's quite unexpected in my opinion. Maybe they are transferring Gemini's to WA which will displace Tridents to WN to replace some more Mercedes?

Why would they transfer tridents into Walsall (4327/8; 4139), if they were going to transfer Tridents out?

Sorry Tony, Completely forgot about those Tridents transferring back to WA. Its that time of night when i don't think properly ;)

Do you know if these are replacing anything at WA?

Replacements for 546, 1430 and 1474 as stated in earlier comments

547*  4327 was the extra Trident to replace 547 because it was not planned for 547 to die early.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 12, 2014, 06:43:51 AM
Appears to be a B10L broken down on Bloxwich High Street by the Pinfold,  near to yesterday morning's closure.

One of those little vans in attendance.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 12, 2014, 07:49:46 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 12, 2014, 06:30:59 AM
Quote from: Ashley on August 11, 2014, 09:45:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 09:05:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 11, 2014, 09:01:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today

That's quite unexpected in my opinion. Maybe they are transferring Gemini's to WA which will displace Tridents to WN to replace some more Mercedes?

Why would they transfer tridents into Walsall (4327/8; 4139), if they were going to transfer Tridents out?

Sorry Tony, Completely forgot about those Tridents transferring back to WA. Its that time of night when i don't think properly ;)

Do you know if these are replacing anything at WA?

Replacements for 546, 1430 and 1474 as stated in earlier comments

547*  4327 was the extra Trident to replace 547 because it was not planned for 547 to die early.

All movements in the next couple of weeks are more a case of just getting enough vehicles into all garages for their September schedules more than this is a replacement for that vehicle, although obviously garages that have had withdrawals over the summer need vehicles moved in, so look like replacements. You may find that some vehicles that move in August don't actually stay long at their new garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 12, 2014, 11:24:38 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 11, 2014, 08:25:06 PM
4534 now at Walsall made peak pm appearance on 934 today

On the 934/5/6s again today if anyone's looking for it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2014, 07:48:02 AM
Does anybody know if 4580 is still at WA today and if so which route/s its on :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 13, 2014, 08:21:29 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2014, 07:48:02 AM
Does anybody know if 4580 is still at WA today and if so which route/s its on :)

4580 is still at Walsall, but hasn't come out to play yet today

1832 is on the 301
4534 is on the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2014, 08:31:10 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2014, 08:21:29 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2014, 07:48:02 AM
Does anybody know if 4580 is still at WA today and if so which route/s its on :)

4580 is still at Walsall, but hasn't come out to play yet today

1832 is on the 301
4534 is on the X51

Cheets for that :) Will try and find 1832 and 4534 this afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 13, 2014, 09:16:05 AM
Extra buses for V festival weekend 15-18 August
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 13, 2014, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2014, 08:31:10 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2014, 08:21:29 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2014, 07:48:02 AM
Does anybody know if 4580 is still at WA today and if so which route/s its on :)

4580 is still at Walsall, but hasn't come out to play yet today

1832 is on the 301
4534 is on the X51

Cheets for that :) Will try and find 1832 and 4534 this afternoon

4534 departs Walsall Bus Station at 11:40. :) You could work out the timetable yourself for the time you want to catch it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 13, 2014, 11:58:38 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 13, 2014, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2014, 08:31:10 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 13, 2014, 08:21:29 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2014, 07:48:02 AM
Does anybody know if 4580 is still at WA today and if so which route/s its on :)

4580 is still at Walsall, but hasn't come out to play yet today

1832 is on the 301
4534 is on the X51

Cheets for that :) Will try and find 1832 and 4534 this afternoon

4534 departs Walsall Bus Station at 11:40. :) You could work out the timetable yourself for the time you want to catch it.

Was me bus to work this morning, got a picture by Aston uni just need to work out how to get it from phone to forum
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on August 13, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
I'm guessing 1832 4534 and 4580 are temps but 4139 4327 and 4328 are more permanent
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2014, 08:50:07 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 13, 2014, 08:22:13 PM
I'm guessing 1832 4534 and 4580 are temps but 4139 4327 and 4328 are more permanent

1832,4534 and 4580 are temporary cover
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2014, 06:18:09 AM
Sorry to ask again, but i need to find 1832,4534 and 4580. I just missed 4534 but didn't see 1832
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 14, 2014, 08:07:30 AM
1832 is sometimes on the 4/4H
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2014, 08:30:05 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 14, 2014, 08:07:30 AM
1832 is sometimes on the 4/4H

What do you mean its sometimes on the 4/4H?  Its only been here a couple of days on loan from BY?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 14, 2014, 09:23:02 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 14, 2014, 08:07:30 AM
1832 is sometimes on the 4/4H

1832 has never been on the 4/4H and is back at Bordesley on the 55 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2014, 01:23:50 PM
4580 back at WN now. Currently parked up in Wolverhampton Bus Station


And 4328 has visited its original homeland of Wolverhampton today. Saw it on Wednesfield High St on the 89 this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: tphi12000 on August 14, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
Just passed 1421 on the 4 in Oldbury
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 14, 2014, 02:23:48 PM
4534 still at Walsall, on the 997s today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 15, 2014, 06:58:52 PM
Quote from: John on August 14, 2014, 02:23:48 PM
4534 still at Walsall, on the 997s today

just passed it on the 934 heading for Birmingham so still with WA (: for anyone it may concern
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 15, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
4534 out all night

935A 1917 City
935A BHL
51 2122 City
51-2207 Walsall
51-2247 City
51-2327 Walsall
51 2407 City

302-1453 out all night
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 15, 2014, 08:22:58 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 15, 2014, 08:13:30 PM
4534 out all night

935A 1917 City
935A BHL
51 2122 City
51-2207 Walsall
51-2247 City
51-2327 Walsall
51 2407 City

302-1453 out all night

I worked it out correctly then (:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 16, 2014, 11:15:28 AM
Is 4534 still at WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 16, 2014, 04:33:14 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on August 16, 2014, 11:15:28 AM
Is 4534 still at WA

4534 is on 70A. Will depart Walsall Bus Station at 16:37.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 19, 2014, 07:38:43 PM
4132 out today on 997/X51 looking fab
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on August 19, 2014, 09:51:16 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 19, 2014, 07:38:43 PM
4132 out today on 997/X51 looking fab

4126 on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on August 23, 2014, 02:10:44 PM
2407?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 23, 2014, 02:48:26 PM
Is there a 301 duty that swops to a 302 during the day?

I went down on a Scania & came back around a hour or so later on a B7RLE but it was the same driver on both trips.

I know it was the same driver as he had a fare dodger problem down to Walsall!

(She tried to get away with a pass 13 days out of date!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 23, 2014, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 23, 2014, 02:48:26 PM
Is there a 301 duty that swops to a 302 during the day?

I went down on a Scania & came back around a hour or so later on a B7RLE but it was the same driver on both trips.

I know it was the same driver as he had a fare dodger problem down to Walsall!

(She tried to get away with a pass 13 days out of date!)

On Saturdays  some 301/302 boards interwork

Morning before 9am
After 5 PM
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 23, 2014, 10:10:57 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 23, 2014, 06:39:31 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 23, 2014, 02:48:26 PM
Is there a 301 duty that swops to a 302 during the day?

I went down on a Scania & came back around a hour or so later on a B7RLE but it was the same driver on both trips.

I know it was the same driver as he had a fare dodger problem down to Walsall!

(She tried to get away with a pass 13 days out of date!)

On Saturdays  some 301/302 boards interwork

Morning before 9am
After 5 PM

This was lunchtime though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on August 23, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
Noted 4136 on the 2005 7 ex Walsall then 4127 on the 2105 departure even though 4127 had been on the 6 all day
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on August 26, 2014, 08:37:09 AM
4534 is on the 997 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 26, 2014, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on August 26, 2014, 08:37:09 AM
4534 is on the 997 today

Do you know the departure times from City or Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on August 26, 2014, 01:27:35 PM
Quote from: John on August 26, 2014, 11:17:26 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on August 26, 2014, 08:37:09 AM
4534 is on the 997 today

Do you know the departure times from City or Walsall?

Saw it on Lower Bull Street, around 8:30, on a 997E. Could WA be getting some 45**s, it's probably just a loan? If they were, they can happily take 4518, but not 4512 or 4526
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
4140 has come home to Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 26, 2014, 03:29:04 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
4140 has come home to Walsall

With 4139/40 and 4327/8 rejoining WA,i wonder if 4325/6 will come back to WN from BC?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on August 26, 2014, 05:36:12 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
4140 has come home to Walsall

On X51 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 08:30:35 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 26, 2014, 03:29:04 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
4140 has come home to Walsall

With 4139/40 and 4327/8 rejoining WA,i wonder if 4325/6 will come back to WN from BC?


4139/4327 have not been seen in service or garage

4325 has never been at WA

4326 came for a few months in 2010
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 26, 2014, 10:26:13 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 08:30:35 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 26, 2014, 03:29:04 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
4140 has come home to Walsall

With 4139/40 and 4327/8 rejoining WA,i wonder if 4325/6 will come back to WN from BC?


4139/4327 have not been seen in service or garage

4325 has never been at WA

4326 came for a few months in 2010

Yes i'm aware 4325 was never at WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on August 27, 2014, 11:51:16 AM
4140 on 40/41 today, 1147 40 ex wolves
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 29, 2014, 02:29:44 PM
Just saw 1474 being towed by a Mansfield truck in New Town Row at 14:26. It still had 38 on the front and back, the destination blind has been removed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 01, 2014, 04:24:56 PM
Next stop announcements coming soon on service 4, 4M & 4H

X51 & 997 merging
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 01, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2014, 04:24:56 PM
Next stop announcements coming soon on service 4, 4M & 4H

X51 & 997 merging

What do you mean X51 & 997 'merging'?

They both run different routes between Brum & Walsall!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 01, 2014, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2014, 04:24:56 PM
Next stop announcements coming soon on service 4, 4M & 4H

X51 & 997 merging

What do you mean X51 & 997 'merging'?

They both run different routes between Brum & Walsall!

Not sure, there was a flyer in reception at walsall with it on, it also had information about the new E200's on it. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 01, 2014, 08:42:36 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2014, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2014, 04:24:56 PM
Next stop announcements coming soon on service 4, 4M & 4H

X51 & 997 merging

What do you mean X51 & 997 'merging'?

They both run different routes between Brum & Walsall!

Not sure, there was a flyer in reception at walsall with it on, it also had information about the new E200's on it.

Isn't it a bit early for April fools?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 01, 2014, 08:45:32 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 01, 2014, 08:42:36 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2014, 08:40:07 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 01, 2014, 04:24:56 PM
Next stop announcements coming soon on service 4, 4M & 4H

X51 & 997 merging

What do you mean X51 & 997 'merging'?

They both run different routes between Brum & Walsall!

Not sure, there was a flyer in reception at walsall with it on, it also had information about the new E200's on it.

Isn't it a bit early for April fools?

Not an april fools, ill have a proper look tomorrow. It may just be the duty's merging didn't really pay much attention to it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 01, 2014, 08:51:38 PM
X51/997 will be in own rota from 26 October 2014

All journeys will be X51 boards and all running boards will interwork

Example

997 Walsall to Birmingham
997E Birmingham to Pheasey
997 Pheasey to Birmingham
X51 Birmingham to Walsall

All branding will be removed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 01, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 01, 2014, 08:51:38 PM
X51/997 will be in own rota from 26 October 2014

All journeys will be X51 boards and all running boards will interwork

Example

997 Walsall to Birmingham
997E Birmingham to Pheasey
997 Pheasey to Birmingham
X51 Birmingham to Walsall

All branding will be removed

What a waste of money!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 01, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
The biggest waste of money I have seen was converting all Volvo B10L gas buses
To diesel starting from 2008 until 2009 only to withdrawal the majority in 2012 from service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on September 01, 2014, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 01, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
The biggest waste of money I have seen was converting all Volvo B10L gas buses
To diesel starting from 2008 until 2009 only to withdrawal the majority in 2012 from service.

Other examples would include 508 and all the money spent on walsalls metros only for them to be canned weeks or months later
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 01, 2014, 09:41:57 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 01, 2014, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 01, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
The biggest waste of money I have seen was converting all Volvo B10L gas buses
To diesel starting from 2008 until 2009 only to withdrawal the majority in 2012 from service.

Other examples would include 508 and all the money spent on walsalls metros only for them to be canned weeks or months later

What is the story with 508?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on September 01, 2014, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 01, 2014, 09:41:57 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 01, 2014, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 01, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
The biggest waste of money I have seen was converting all Volvo B10L gas buses
To diesel starting from 2008 until 2009 only to withdrawal the majority in 2012 from service.

Other examples would include 508 and all the money spent on walsalls metros only for them to be canned weeks or months later

What is the story with 508?

New front axle being fitted for a months more service if that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 01, 2014, 09:48:53 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 01, 2014, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 01, 2014, 09:41:57 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 01, 2014, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 01, 2014, 09:28:00 PM
The biggest waste of money I have seen was converting all Volvo B10L gas buses
To diesel starting from 2008 until 2009 only to withdrawal the majority in 2012 from service.

Other examples would include 508 and all the money spent on walsalls metros only for them to be canned weeks or months later

What is the story with 508?

New front axle being fitted for a months more service if that

Seems to be my catchphrase tonight, but What A Waste Of Money!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 01, 2014, 09:53:25 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 01, 2014, 09:11:27 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 01, 2014, 08:51:38 PM
X51/997 will be in own rota from 26 October 2014

All journeys will be X51 boards and all running boards will interwork

Example

997 Walsall to Birmingham
997E Birmingham to Pheasey
997 Pheasey to Birmingham
X51 Birmingham to Walsall

All branding will be removed

What a waste of money!

There aren't actually that many left to de-brand 4684-6 (X51 branded) & 4770-4775 (997 branded). The 997 branding is 7 years old (from new), so its more than paid for itself.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 01, 2014, 11:01:24 PM
Then you can still see where the branding was until said vehicle gets a repaint!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on September 01, 2014, 11:18:34 PM
pity I liked the Geminis on the X51, the branding looks great on them and the interiors suited the route :( It's been said but I'll agree what a waste branding them in the first place.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 01, 2014, 11:33:53 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2014, 11:01:24 PM
Then you can still see where the branding was until said vehicle gets a repaint!

Those buses can't now be far away from a repaint anyway, their NXWM livery is 7 years old.

As it was suggested following the Centenary Square celebrations the X51 may be inline for new high spec buses, with the interworking of the X51 & 997 from end of Oct, presumably the 997 will be in line for the same  :-\
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 02, 2014, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 01, 2014, 11:33:53 PM
As it was suggested following the Centenary Square celebrations the X51 may be inline for new high spec buses, with the interworking of the X51 & 997 from end of Oct, presumably the 997 will be in line for the same  :-\

yeah that's what I've just been thinking.

Always struck me as a bit strange that the 997 got any special attention, doesn't really strike me as being that important a route, even less so now that it doesn't go over Barr Beacon (granted, personal opinion).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 02, 2014, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 08:30:35 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 26, 2014, 03:29:04 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 26, 2014, 03:25:32 PM
4140 has come home to Walsall

With 4139/40 and 4327/8 rejoining WA,i wonder if 4325/6 will come back to WN from BC?


4139/4327 have not been seen in service or garage

4325 has never been at WA

4326 came for a few months in 2010

Just got home, so first chance to check this out
4139 currently parked in Walsall garage
4327 currently on the 7
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 03, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
4325 seen at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 04, 2014, 08:37:26 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 03, 2014, 05:53:44 PM
4325 seen at Walsall

One number out!
4325 spent yesterday on the Pershore & Bristol Roads
4326 did the morning peak on Bristol Road and then went to Walsall garage at 11am, and at 3pm went to Perry Barr where it is currently residing
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 07, 2014, 07:56:19 PM
1889 has been sat on the 301 stand for over an hour now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 08, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
2 left hand drive MAN demonstrators currently at walsall garage

H AL 3405 http://www.imgbox.de/users/Thomas478/H_Busse/H_AL3405_7_82_20130721_Allerw.jpg

M AN 7699 (Similar to this one)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7eYv7MFEk7E/UlseIH6VMCI/AAAAAAAAEOg/_w3kNPcecDI/s1600/MAN5042+MANLionsCity.JPG
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on September 08, 2014, 12:50:38 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 08, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
2 left hand drive MAN demonstrators currently at walsall garage

H AL 3405 & M AN 7699

There was an MAN demonstrator along with a Solo SR at Bordesley a couple of months ago. I believe they were being looked at with regards to future purchases for the non UK NX fleets.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on September 08, 2014, 04:51:49 PM
Saw what I think was one of these demonstrators driving around Masshouse around 1pm this afternoon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 08, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
M AN 7699 disappeared this afternoon so was probably that one.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 11, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
834 is currently at Walsall garage for driver training
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 11, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
What route leather seated enviro usually on?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on September 11, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 11, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
What route leather seated enviro usually on?

997 an im sure there are some unbranded ones which work 934/5/6, 51/X51


Could be wrong but i am 98% sure 4532 is about to work the 18:35 X51 from Birmingham - apologies if this has been mentioned elsewere - not looked through it yet (:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 11, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 11, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 11, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
What route leather seated enviro usually on?

997 an im sure there are some unbranded ones which work 934/5/6, 51/X51


Could be wrong but i am 98% sure 4532 is about to work the 18:35 X51 from Birmingham - apologies if this has been mentioned elsewere - not looked through it yet (:

It worked the (late) 16:55 from brum, was waiting for it by the childrens hospital and eventually came about 10 late, full to the brim so didnt stop.
So yeah, 17:45 back from Walsall, 18:35 ex city makes sense
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 11, 2014, 07:44:52 PM
4532/4533 now at Walsall

4326 on 6 today

4858 (51 Branded) 10/10A
4868 (51Branded) 301

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 11, 2014, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 11, 2014, 07:44:52 PM
4532/4533 now at Walsall

4326 on 6 today

4858 (51 Branded) 10/10A
4868 (51Branded) 301

Was those 2 working the 51 earlier & swopped to the other routes later or was they the only buses available at the time?

(By the way,  that's twice in two days I've seen a 51 branded on the 301!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on September 11, 2014, 09:36:29 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 11, 2014, 09:19:41 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 11, 2014, 07:44:52 PM
4532/4533 now at Walsall

4326 on 6 today

4858 (51 Branded) 10/10A
4868 (51Branded) 301

Was those 2 working the 51 earlier & swopped to the other routes later or was they the only buses available at the time?

(By the way,  that's twice in two days I've seen a 51 branded on the 301!)

In the past I've seen a 51 branded on the 41 to Willenhall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on September 12, 2014, 08:05:28 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 11, 2014, 07:05:44 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on September 11, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 11, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
What route leather seated enviro usually on?

997 an im sure there are some unbranded ones which work 934/5/6, 51/X51


Could be wrong but i am 98% sure 4532 is about to work the 18:35 X51 from Birmingham - apologies if this has been mentioned elsewere - not looked through it yet (:

It worked the (late) 16:55 from brum, was waiting for it by the childrens hospital and eventually came about 10 late, full to the brim so didnt stop.
So yeah, 17:45 back from Walsall, 18:35 ex city makes sense
They're also very occasionally used on the 40, 41, 301/302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 13, 2014, 09:14:14 AM
4326 now at WA. Currently parked up at Wolverhampton Bus Station on the 40
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on September 13, 2014, 10:55:37 AM
Are Tridents common on the 70/70A, cause i just saw one depart Walsall on the 70A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on September 13, 2014, 11:24:17 AM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on September 13, 2014, 10:55:37 AM
Are Tridents common on the 70/70A, cause i just saw one depart Walsall on the 70A

Normal on a saturday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 15, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
I'm assuming 2120 is awaiting collection from walsall and not parked up for type training ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 15, 2014, 10:15:02 AM
Quote from: Andrew on September 15, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
I'm assuming 2120 is awaiting collection from walsall and not parked up for type training ?

It was at Bus Driver Of The Year in Blackpool yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 15, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Not 100% sure but i think an E200 just followed me into the garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 15, 2014, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 15, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Not 100% sure but i think an E200 just followed me into the garage

Could it be the WB one that is there for type training?

Haven't seen any sightings reported of any E200's numbered as high as Walsall's on test/delivery
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 15, 2014, 03:32:22 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 15, 2014, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 15, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Not 100% sure but i think an E200 just followed me into the garage

Could it be the WB one that is there for type training?

Haven't seen any sightings reported of any E200's numbered as high as Walsall's on test/delivery

I believe 834 has been down the town doing driver training, so will probably be that one
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 15, 2014, 03:33:16 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 15, 2014, 03:18:51 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 15, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Not 100% sure but i think an E200 just followed me into the garage

Could it be the WB one that is there for type training?

Haven't seen any sightings reported of any E200's numbered as high as Walsall's on test/delivery

It's 845, parked near 834 outside the traffic office
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 16, 2014, 10:08:27 AM
834 & 845 parked up around the bus station area this morning.

(Only saw them as I'd gone to the dentist so I was sorta late for work! )
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dutsey on September 16, 2014, 10:54:41 PM
Are tridents common on the WA7? I saw one around 17:50 in Castlefort.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on September 16, 2014, 11:38:50 PM
Relatively common, along with B7RLE's, i think they're the primary allocation for the route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on September 17, 2014, 04:27:09 PM
4774 was driven away from WB bus station at 3:20 by an engineer
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 21, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
What should be the or what will the allocation be for the 301 & 302 now, bearing in mind at least one Omnilink has gone from Walsall to elsewhere,  plus double deckers are appearing more now?

In my opinion, it should be B7RLE on both routes with spare Omnilinks not used on the Dudley & West Bromwich routes reallocated on other Walsall routes.

(Bearing in mind B7RLE do appear  on the 301 as well, plus as Diamond are starting on the 302 soon, I think a consistent allocation of a certain type of vehicle could work, especially if Diamond don't have any spare B7s themselves & use anything spare in the depot. 

And if Nx could brand the 301 & 302 jointly as 'Every few minutes between Walsall & Bloxwich' even better! )
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PM on September 21, 2014, 03:28:30 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 21, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
What should be the or what will the allocation be for the 301 & 302 now, bearing in mind at least one Omnilink has gone from Walsall to elsewhere,  plus double deckers are appearing more now?

In my opinion, it should be B7RLE on both routes with spare Omnilinks not used on the Dudley & West Bromwich routes reallocated on other Walsall routes.

(Bearing in mind B7RLE do appear  on the 301 as well, plus as Diamond are starting on the 302 soon, I think a consistent allocation of a certain type of vehicle could work, especially if Diamond don't have any spare B7s themselves & use anything spare in the depot. 

And if Nx could brand the 301 & 302 jointly as 'Every few minutes between Walsall & Bloxwich' even better! )

Especially seeing as Diamond seem to be providing a quality, well-used service in the 301 with high backed seats on the brilliant ex Transdev "value" eclipses which seem to appear a lot on there. I hope the 302 service gets a similarly high standard of vehicle!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 21, 2014, 05:30:08 PM
What routes are walsalls new e200s going to be used on?  The 34/38/39?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 21, 2014, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 21, 2014, 05:30:08 PM
What routes are walsalls new e200s going to be used on?  The 34/38/39?

Not those routes, i know which ones they are for but not sure if i can say.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 21, 2014, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 21, 2014, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 21, 2014, 05:30:08 PM
What routes are walsalls new e200s going to be used on?  The 34/38/39?

Not those routes, i know which ones they are for but not sure if i can say.

335 and 336 are definates
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 21, 2014, 05:48:44 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 21, 2014, 03:28:30 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 21, 2014, 03:04:23 PM
What should be the or what will the allocation be for the 301 & 302 now, bearing in mind at least one Omnilink has gone from Walsall to elsewhere,  plus double deckers are appearing more now?

In my opinion, it should be B7RLE on both routes with spare Omnilinks not used on the Dudley & West Bromwich routes reallocated on other Walsall routes.

(Bearing in mind B7RLE do appear  on the 301 as well, plus as Diamond are starting on the 302 soon, I think a consistent allocation of a certain type of vehicle could work, especially if Diamond don't have any spare B7s themselves & use anything spare in the depot. 

And if Nx could brand the 301 & 302 jointly as 'Every few minutes between Walsall & Bloxwich' even better! )

Especially seeing as Diamond seem to be providing a quality, well-used service in the 301 with high backed seats on the brilliant ex Transdev "value" eclipses which seem to appear a lot on there. I hope the 302 service gets a similarly high standard of vehicle!

I don't see how Diamond could put any B7RLE on the 302, there aren't enough to go around without another routes loosing out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on September 21, 2014, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2014, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 21, 2014, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 21, 2014, 05:30:08 PM
What routes are walsalls new e200s going to be used on?  The 34/38/39?

Not those routes, i know which ones they are for but not sure if i can say.

335 and 336 are definates

I thought it had been announced the other buses were for the 70/70A?

If there are only six buses coming, and two are on the 335/336, that means there are only four buses remaining, which would fit nicely for the four buses on the 70/70A.

The only other options for a route that could be fully/all day boards converted (otherwise it seems a bit pointless having a mixture of new/old on the same route all day) would be the 6 (3 all day boards, 1 PM peak), the 69 (4 buses), the 7/7A (4 buses), the 77 (3 all days board, 2 morning peak & 1 PM peak), the 302 (4 all days board + 1 evening peak).

I would have thought based on observations & current allocations that the 6, 7/A, 69 & 77 may well struggle capacity wise. With Diamond coming onto the 302 shortly I guess that could be a possibility? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on September 21, 2014, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 21, 2014, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2014, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 21, 2014, 05:42:54 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 21, 2014, 05:30:08 PM
What routes are walsalls new e200s going to be used on?  The 34/38/39?

Not those routes, i know which ones they are for but not sure if i can say.

335 and 336 are definates

I thought it had been announced the other buses were for the 70/70A?

If there are only six buses coming, and two are on the 335/336, that means there are only four buses remaining, which would fit nicely for the four buses on the 70/70A.

The only other options for a route that could be fully/all day boards converted (otherwise it seems a bit pointless having a mixture of new/old on the same route all day) would be the 6 (3 all day boards, 1 PM peak), the 69 (4 buses), the 7/7A (4 buses), the 77 (3 all days board, 2 morning peak & 1 PM peak), the 302 (4 all days board + 1 evening peak).

I would have thought based on observations & current allocations that the 6, 7/A, 69 & 77 may well struggle capacity wise. With Diamond coming onto the 302 shortly I guess that could be a possibility?

According to the notice it says type training for 301, 335, 336, 70/70A drivers only.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 21, 2014, 07:47:53 PM
Are the B10Ls staying at walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 21, 2014, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 21, 2014, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 21, 2014, 06:37:11 PM

I thought it had been announced the other buses were for the 70/70A?

If there are only six buses coming, and two are on the 335/336, that means there are only four buses remaining, which would fit nicely for the four buses on the 70/70A.

The only other options for a route that could be fully/all day boards converted (otherwise it seems a bit pointless having a mixture of new/old on the same route all day) would be the 6 (3 all day boards, 1 PM peak), the 69 (4 buses), the 7/7A (4 buses), the 77 (3 all days board, 2 morning peak & 1 PM peak), the 302 (4 all days board + 1 evening peak).

I would have thought based on observations & current allocations that the 6, 7/A, 69 & 77 may well struggle capacity wise. With Diamond coming onto the 302 shortly I guess that could be a possibility?

According to the notice it says type training for 301, 335, 336, 70/70A drivers only.

70A makes little sense to me, purely based on every time I see it it's a decker so bit of a drop in capacity
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on September 21, 2014, 07:57:30 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 21, 2014, 07:48:28 PM
Quote from: Andrew on September 21, 2014, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 21, 2014, 06:37:11 PM

I thought it had been announced the other buses were for the 70/70A?

If there are only six buses coming, and two are on the 335/336, that means there are only four buses remaining, which would fit nicely for the four buses on the 70/70A.

The only other options for a route that could be fully/all day boards converted (otherwise it seems a bit pointless having a mixture of new/old on the same route all day) would be the 6 (3 all day boards, 1 PM peak), the 69 (4 buses), the 7/7A (4 buses), the 77 (3 all days board, 2 morning peak & 1 PM peak), the 302 (4 all days board + 1 evening peak).

I would have thought based on observations & current allocations that the 6, 7/A, 69 & 77 may well struggle capacity wise. With Diamond coming onto the 302 shortly I guess that could be a possibility?

According to the notice it says type training for 301, 335, 336, 70/70A drivers only.

70A makes little sense to me, purely based on every time I see it it's a decker so bit of a drop in capacity

The 70A is usually B6 operated on weekdays. It can quite often on Saturdays be a double deck, but isn't needed to be.

That makes sense - board 335/01 goes on to operate the 301/302 which explains why there is a need for those drivers to be type trained.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on September 21, 2014, 10:50:05 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 21, 2014, 07:47:53 PM
Are the B10Ls staying at walsall

B10La are staying at Walsall until 2015

Next years orders might see them off
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on September 21, 2014, 11:55:22 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on September 21, 2014, 10:50:05 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 21, 2014, 07:47:53 PM
Are the B10Ls staying at walsall


B10La are staying at Walsall until 2015

Next years orders might see them off

What is the orders for next year
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ronnoc on September 22, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
I saw AG 4677 on Dartmouth Middleway looking like it was heading towards Walsall or Perry Bar.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 22, 2014, 07:43:43 AM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 22, 2014, 06:28:51 AM
I saw AG 4677 on Dartmouth Middleway looking like it was heading towards Walsall or Perry Bar.

More than likely just heading to Perry Barr to start service on the 11
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 22, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
Welcome back 1421
Out on the 34/38/39 today, first time for a few weeks.
34/38/39 is 100% B10L again today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 22, 2014, 02:38:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 22, 2014, 01:01:04 PM
Welcome back 1421
Out on the 34/38/39 today, first time for a few weeks.
34/38/39 is 100% B10L again today

Just popped up to Walsall for a quick run around on a few routes, hoping to get a B10L... Caught 1440 which was a bit of a disappointment, doesn't sound anywhere near as nice as the rest
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 22, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
On 244 at the mo, doing the 301.

(Looks like I was wrong about having my one and only trip on it before it goes elsewhere! )
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 23, 2014, 07:38:14 AM
X51s on form this morning... 7:27 at tower hill (4685) sailed past 5 mins late full to the brim, closely followed by 4686 not in service, only to be seen in service half hour later on it's way back out of town while the next departure (4683, by this time about 10 late itself) is still loading at the Perry Park stop

I'm ok with this... Normally half hour early anyway and could do with some excitement
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 23, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
Any idea why there's at least a 45 minutes gap (possibly longer! ) on the 311 & 313 tonight ?

Got to the Wednesbury Parkway stop around 5 to 5 & was still waiting there until 20 to 6!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 23, 2014, 06:17:07 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 23, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
Any idea why there's at least a 45 minutes gap (possibly longer! ) on the 311 & 313 tonight ?

Got to the Wednesbury Parkway stop around 5 to 5 & was still waiting there until 20 to 6!

I am struggling to find an explanation for you from the one system I have at the moment. You do seem to be really unlucky, last time you had a long wait you had just missed a bus and the same tonight. The
16:55 from Wednesbury Bus Station went past the metro stop at 16:52, one minute late
17:03 is baffling me as it shows leaving Dudley 5 late, and the first stop after Wednesbury 5 late, but not what it did between
17:15 isn't showing, so I don't know what happened to that one
17:23 was there at 17:40 so presumably the one you caught
17:35 was there at 17:41
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 23, 2014, 09:04:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 23, 2014, 06:17:07 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 23, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
Any idea why there's at least a 45 minutes gap (possibly longer! ) on the 311 & 313 tonight ?

Got to the Wednesbury Parkway stop around 5 to 5 & was still waiting there until 20 to 6!

I am struggling to find an explanation for you from the one system I have at the moment. You do seem to be really unlucky, last time you had a long wait you had just missed a bus and the same tonight. The
16:55 from Wednesbury Bus Station went past the metro stop at 16:52, one minute late
17:03 is baffling me as it shows leaving Dudley 5 late, and the first stop after Wednesbury 5 late, but not what it did between
17:15 isn't showing, so I don't know what happened to that one
17:23 was there at 17:40 so presumably the one you caught
17:35 was there at 17:41

Thanks Tony

When I got to Wednesbury Bus Station, there was a 311 & 313 both ready to depart towards Dudley.

Guess that's not supposed to happen.

While I was waiting, I only saw one NX go towards Dudley, with one Diamond 23 coming back to Wednesbury.

By the way,  no more complaints about the X51 as my sister will be working in West Bromwich from today, so let's hope the 4 behaves for her!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 24, 2014, 05:02:14 PM
Damm just missed a 313!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 24, 2014, 05:24:55 PM
There was an X51 branded Gemini in Cannock bus station at 11.45 today at the stop it usually goes from in the morning.  Driver training?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on September 25, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
Interesting to read of yet another increase to the X51 frequency from 26 October - with the service being upped to every 15 minutes off-peak Monday-Friday.

I presume this will coincide with the increased interworking with the 997 mentioned previously?


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 25, 2014, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 25, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
Interesting to read of yet another increase to the X51 frequency from 26 October - with the service being upped to every 15 minutes off-peak Monday-Friday.

I presume this will coincide with the increased interworking with the 997 mentioned previously?

Don't understand how that'd work, the 997 is every 10 surely?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on September 25, 2014, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 25, 2014, 10:40:43 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 25, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
Interesting to read of yet another increase to the X51 frequency from 26 October - with the service being upped to every 15 minutes off-peak Monday-Friday.

I presume this will coincide with the increased interworking with the 997 mentioned previously?

Don't understand how that'd work, the 997 is every 10 surely?

The 997 doesn't need a 10 minute off peak frauency and a few may agree so maybe that will drop to every 15 minutes as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 25, 2014, 10:53:46 PM
Aren't some of the 997s short workings?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on September 26, 2014, 01:40:55 AM
I definitely agree with Ashley there, I've said for a while now 15 minutes during the daytime would be more than enough for the 997 (15 to pheasey, 30 to walsall).
One thing I am wondering is could the X51 increase just be for the pre Christmas rush or is it hopefully staying like that for good?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on September 26, 2014, 10:17:49 AM
Quote from: notepanel on September 25, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
Interesting to read of yet another increase to the X51 frequency from 26 October - with the service being upped to every 15 minutes off-peak Monday-Friday.

I presume this will coincide with the increased interworking with the 997 mentioned previously?

Maybe it'll interwork with the Pheasey 997 shorts (4 per hour)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on September 27, 2014, 08:27:59 AM
What will be the fate of the high-back seated Geminis, leather seated Enviros and 4733-4737 when the new buses for the X51/997 arrive I wonder?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: pb2012 on September 27, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
855/56 pics on facebook on m6 heading south presume there now at garage!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 27, 2014, 09:18:53 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 26, 2014, 10:17:49 AM
Quote from: notepanel on September 25, 2014, 10:12:59 PM
Interesting to read of yet another increase to the X51 frequency from 26 October - with the service being upped to every 15 minutes off-peak Monday-Friday.

I presume this will coincide with the increased interworking with the 997 mentioned previously?

Maybe it'll interwork with the Pheasey 997 shorts (4 per hour)

That'll be a bit of a strange interworking, one is 15 mins the other is every 10/20.
The service changes don't mention any decrease to the 997 though, so is possible
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 27, 2014, 10:24:04 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 27, 2014, 08:27:59 AM
What will be the fate of the high-back seated Geminis, leather seated Enviros and 4733-4737 when the new buses for the X51/997 arrive I wonder?

New buses for the X51/997?????
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 27, 2014, 10:36:02 AM
Quote from: Bob on September 27, 2014, 10:24:04 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 27, 2014, 08:27:59 AM
What will be the fate of the high-back seated Geminis, leather seated Enviros and 4733-4737 when the new buses for the X51/997 arrive I wonder?

New buses for the X51/997?????


It was mentioned at the Birmingham Bus Centenary event that they are looking at buying New MMC E400's for the X51 and 900/957. It appears these will be part of the new 'Gold Corridors'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 27, 2014, 10:52:32 AM
Quote from: pb2012 on September 27, 2014, 08:58:46 AM
855/56 pics on facebook on m6 heading south presume there now at garage!

Depends where on the M6 they were seen, they might be stopping off at Leyland first
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 30, 2014, 12:52:31 PM
855 just about to do the1257 301from Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 30, 2014, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2014, 12:52:31 PM
855 just about to do the1257 301from Walsall

Is that likely to still be out by teatime/early evening between 530 & 630?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 30, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 30, 2014, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2014, 12:52:31 PM
855 just about to do the1257 301from Walsall

Is that likely to still be out by teatime/early evening between 530 & 630?

Should be didn't check the running board when I caught it but it is on a normal board
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on September 30, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
Is 634 still at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: NXWM Spectra on September 30, 2014, 04:19:42 PM
857 is on WA40/41.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 30, 2014, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 30, 2014, 04:15:14 PM
Is 634 still at Walsall?

Yes, it's on 39 today. :) http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3161.msg114371#msg114371
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2014, 05:48:40 PM
Quote from: NXWM Spectra on September 30, 2014, 04:19:42 PM
857 is on WA40/41.
Any idea if it'll still be on in about 25 minutes?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 30, 2014, 09:04:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2014, 01:24:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 30, 2014, 01:15:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2014, 12:52:31 PM
855 just about to do the1257 301from Walsall

Is that likely to still be out by teatime/early evening between 530 & 630?

Should be didn't check the running board when I caught it but it is on a normal board

Saw it coming into town by Tesco as a 29 around 555pm then left town out of service passing the Stafford St stop while I was waiting for a Bloxwich.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 30, 2014, 10:12:07 PM
Some of us are old enough to remember the original 855 working out of Walsall to Mossley on the 3(0)1!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on September 30, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Apologies for being slow. But what are the new E200s route allocation at WA & WN?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on September 30, 2014, 10:41:26 PM
Walsall - 70, 70A, 301, 335, 336

Wolverhampton - pretty much anything

Quote from: clayderman on September 30, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Apologies for being slow. But what are the new E200s route allocation at WA & WN?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2014, 10:45:34 PM
I assume at Walsall, they'll replace B6's, so whatever routes those are on, probably 301(one B6 comes off 335 & goes onto 301's), 335/336, & maybe 34/38/39, & at Wton, they're assigned as primary allocation for the 28 & 81, with others appearing on the 2, 25A/C, 59 & 82
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on September 30, 2014, 10:47:07 PM
Quote from: Ashley on September 30, 2014, 10:41:26 PM
Walsall - 70, 70A, 301, 335, 336

Wolverhampton - pretty much anything

Quote from: clayderman on September 30, 2014, 10:38:43 PM
Apologies for being slow. But what are the new E200s route allocation at WA & WN?

Thanks. Tbh, I wouldn't have had the 301 upgraded from this list. Doesn't the service suffice from the B7RLEs, Scanias & the odd trident? Or is it to replace the trident allocation? (Sorry for going on a bit ::) )
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on September 30, 2014, 10:53:40 PM
If it weren't for one the Alumwell boards going on to the 301, then it probably wouldn't be included, not sure which board though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on October 01, 2014, 06:27:51 AM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on September 30, 2014, 10:53:40 PM
If it weren't for one the Alumwell boards going on to the 301, then it probably wouldn't be included, not sure which board though

335/01 is the board that does 301's until late
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 01, 2014, 10:42:12 AM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on September 30, 2014, 10:45:34 PM
I assume at Walsall, they'll replace B6's, so whatever routes those are on, probably 301(one B6 comes off 335 & goes onto 301's), 335/336, & maybe 34/38/39, & at Wton, they're assigned as primary allocation for the 28 & 81, with others appearing on the 2, 25A/C, 59 & 82

At W'ton they are for the 28 and 81 but have been making appearances on the 59 too (Usually the same running board).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 02, 2014, 12:38:24 PM
244 is on 34/8/9 again
also for anyone interested in plastic 856 is on its new route, the 335. Bye Bye Walsall B6s...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 02, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
Are the e200s really that bad? Least theyre better looking than streetlites which have got to be one of the ugliest things ever
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 02, 2014, 07:01:32 PM
856 has been swaped with 582 from 70A

So 582 will be on 301:302 all night
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dutsey on October 02, 2014, 07:42:28 PM
Maybe I am in the minority but I quite like the look of the E200s.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 02, 2014, 07:46:01 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on October 02, 2014, 07:01:32 PM
856 has been swaped with 582 from 70A

So 582 will be on 301:302 all night

one of the newest buses has to be swapped with one of the oldest, just hope somehow 582 survives a while longer. transfer to WN perhaps.

It's a shame that WA didn't repair 581, was agreat PE machine.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on October 02, 2014, 07:53:40 PM
Sorry Bob I didn't mean to give that impression, I too prefer them to the streetlite and I think the ones we have are the best new things we could hope for as B6 Replacements, mainly because they are voith, and I think the bodywork looks nice too (apart from the window spec). The only reason I call them plastic is because lets face it that is all they are!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on October 02, 2014, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: Bob on October 02, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
Are the e200s really that bad? Least theyre better looking than streetlites which have got to be one of the ugliest things ever

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who likes the E200s. The Streetlites are so ugly, such a contrast in aesthetics to its bigger brother, the Wright Eclipse Urban 2
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 02, 2014, 09:38:48 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 02, 2014, 09:24:47 PM
Quote from: Bob on October 02, 2014, 06:39:15 PM
Are the e200s really that bad? Least theyre better looking than streetlites which have got to be one of the ugliest things ever

Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who likes the E200s. The Streetlites are so ugly, such a contrast in aesthetics to its bigger brother, the Wright Eclipse Urban 2

I caught 855 on its first venture out of garage on Tuesday, had body rattles a new bus shouldn't have! I drove it around the garage, first time I had actually driven one and the general driving seemed quite nice, but those rattles!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 03, 2014, 12:39:16 AM
Theyre a fair bit quieter than a streetlite as well tony. Theyre quieter than a pulsar as well I think.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on October 03, 2014, 06:41:16 AM
That is useless if the body is already rattling - I really think NX should have gone Wrights, at least for the single deck fleet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on October 03, 2014, 05:29:44 PM
Every 64 plate enviro 200 I,ve travelled on staff bus does rattle from the front saloon door area, some even have annoying vibrations and rattles from the back seat. Some of the short version going the same way, very disappointing to say the least.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 03, 2014, 06:26:52 PM
1786 has just passed through Wednesfield High St on an 89 making an unhealthy loud screeching noise
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on October 03, 2014, 07:03:52 PM
Rather have a loud screeching 1786 any day compared to an Enviro 200 - just glad there's none of those things at AG and YW!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ronnoc on October 03, 2014, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 03, 2014, 07:03:52 PM
Rather have a loud screeching 1786 any day compared to an Enviro 200 - just glad there's none of those things at AG and YW!
Same here! Wouldn't want an Enviro 200 on the 3 and 2.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 03, 2014, 07:54:08 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 03, 2014, 07:03:52 PM
Rather have a loud screeching 1786 any day compared to an Enviro 200 - just glad there's none of those things at AG and YW!

Loud squeeling from Volvos is normally just stiff fan belts which goes off once the initial acceleration has happened and is nothing to worry about
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on October 03, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
Thanks Tony - always wondered what caused 627 to screech when it was at AG!
The Enviro 200s can stay away from YW - more than happy with the Scanias and Liberators!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 04, 2014, 09:12:11 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 03, 2014, 07:54:08 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 03, 2014, 07:03:52 PM
Rather have a loud screeching 1786 any day compared to an Enviro 200 - just glad there's none of those things at AG and YW!

Loud squeeling from Volvos is normally just stiff fan belts which goes off once the initial acceleration has happened and is nothing to worry about

I know that Tony but it appeared to be a constant noise. That's why i mentioned it as sounding unhealthy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 04, 2014, 04:28:02 PM
1783 - 4h not sure if it's noteworthy, but wow these are nice buses, first time I've been on one of these, very impressed interior a bit grubby, but almost as good as a scania
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 05, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
Are Walsall having short Enviro 200's as well as long ones?

(Thought short ones would've been better round the Alumwell personally! )
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on October 05, 2014, 09:25:05 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 05, 2014, 09:24:01 PM
Are Walsall having short Enviro 200's as well as long ones?

(Thought short ones would've been better round the Alumwell personally! )

No, no more short E200's on order this year
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on October 06, 2014, 05:15:58 PM
B10's on the 7 and 311/313 for anyone thinking they've all vanished
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 07, 2014, 12:55:25 PM
Is 1896 still out in service as it was the 709 311 this morning & it was having problems?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 07, 2014, 01:02:19 PM
Any ideas why I saw 244 come down Lakefield Rd then continue down Lichfield Rd towards Bloxwich displaying '302-Walsall Via Bloxwich'?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on October 07, 2014, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 07, 2014, 01:02:19 PM
Any ideas why I saw 244 come down Lakefield Rd then continue down Lichfield Rd towards Bloxwich displaying '302-Walsall Via Bloxwich'?

If it was around 0830ish this morning, then it would be operating board 336/01 (it has been mentioned on another topic that 244 is on the 335/6 today).

This operates the 700 school service to Grace Academy Darlaston before running dead to Lower Farm to operate a single 302 journey into Walsall (0854 ex Lower Farm). This then goes onto the 336 upon arrival into Walsall before turning into the 335 in the evening peak.

Presumably from Grace Academy it continued along past Thomas More, onto the Moseley Road/Nechells Road through Wednesfield to join the Lichfield Road all the way to Lower Farm.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 07, 2014, 02:30:43 PM
Quote from: notepanel on October 07, 2014, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 07, 2014, 01:02:19 PM
Any ideas why I saw 244 come down Lakefield Rd then continue down Lichfield Rd towards Bloxwich displaying '302-Walsall Via Bloxwich'?

If it was around 0830ish this morning, then it would be operating board 336/01 (it has been mentioned on another topic that 244 is on the 335/6 today).

This operates the 700 school service to Grace Academy Darlaston before running dead to Lower Farm to operate a single 302 journey into Walsall (0854 ex Lower Farm). This then goes onto the 336 upon arrival into Walsall before turning into the 335 in the evening peak.

Presumably from Grace Academy it continued along past Thomas More, onto the Moseley Road/Nechells Road through Wednesfield to join the Lichfield Road all the way to Lower Farm.

Yes that is 244's regular running board and still doing it most days at the moment. The three E200s so far in service seem to be settling onto the two 70A running boards and 335-01
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 07, 2014, 05:58:11 PM
1477 looks withdrawn parked next to dead B6s for a week now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 07, 2014, 08:31:58 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on October 07, 2014, 05:58:11 PM
1477 looks withdrawn parked next to dead B6s for a week now

Yes, Tony explained why 1477 has had to be withdrawn. See the post link below from the West Bromwich Garage thread on 2nd October.

http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5.msg114647#msg114647
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 08, 2014, 10:42:58 AM
Quote from: notepanel on October 07, 2014, 02:23:41 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 07, 2014, 01:02:19 PM
Any ideas why I saw 244 come down Lakefield Rd then continue down Lichfield Rd towards Bloxwich displaying '302-Walsall Via Bloxwich'?

If it was around 0830ish this morning, then it would be operating board 336/01 (it has been mentioned on another topic that 244 is on the 335/6 today).

This operates the 700 school service to Grace Academy Darlaston before running dead to Lower Farm to operate a single 302 journey into Walsall (0854 ex Lower Farm). This then goes onto the 336 upon arrival into Walsall before turning into the 335 in the evening peak.

Presumably from Grace Academy it continued along past Thomas More, onto the Moseley Road/Nechells Road through Wednesfield to join the Lichfield Road all the way to Lower Farm.

Yes it was. Cheers for that Notepanel
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:10:08 PM
858; 859 & 860 are all in service for the first time today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 09, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:10:08 PM
858; 859 & 860 are all in service for the first time today

Which routes are they on?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 09, 2014, 12:39:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2014, 12:10:08 PM
858; 859 & 860 are all in service for the first time today

Which routes are they on?

858 & 859 are on the 301
860 is on the 336
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on October 09, 2014, 03:28:34 PM
When is the next order if any more this year?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on October 09, 2014, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: leewhayward29 on October 09, 2014, 03:28:34 PM
When is the next order if any more this year?

A question already asked too many times and answered, nothing more for this year
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on October 09, 2014, 04:30:33 PM
Quote from: Ashley on October 09, 2014, 04:13:49 PM
Quote from: leewhayward29 on October 09, 2014, 03:28:34 PM
When is the next order if any more this year?


A question already asked too many times and answered, nothing more for this year

Oh okay thank you
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 10, 2014, 12:42:32 PM
4684 has lost it's X51 branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 11, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
X51 I got home today (believe it was 4776, forgot, wasn't really paying too much attention) had a piece of paper in the drivers cab window stating to passengers that "this bus doesn't stop in Newtown"... I love the fact that to this day people still try to get on/off there.
Spoke to the driver about it asking how many years of the X51 existing they still feel the need to advertise this, and his smart arse response was since the 60s when Midland Red had an service that didn't set down before / set down after Scott Arms, I wasn't personally counting them days but fair point lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 11, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 11, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
X51 I got home today (believe it was 4776, forgot, wasn't really paying too much attention) had a piece of paper in the drivers cab window stating to passengers that "this bus doesn't stop in Newtown"... I love the fact that to this day people still try to get on/off there.
Spoke to the driver about it asking how many years of the X51 existing they still feel the need to advertise this, and his smart arse response was since the 60s when Midland Red had an service that didn't set down before / set down after Scott Arms, I wasn't personally counting them days but fair point lol

Don't the other Walsall depot limited stop services 934, 935, 936 & 997 stop at the Bartons Arms, besides the 51?

If the X51 is supposed to interwork with the 997 in future,  hope the driver remembers which route he's doing!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 11, 2014, 08:05:54 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 11, 2014, 05:26:57 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 11, 2014, 03:33:47 PM
X51 I got home today (believe it was 4776, forgot, wasn't really paying too much attention) had a piece of paper in the drivers cab window stating to passengers that "this bus doesn't stop in Newtown"... I love the fact that to this day people still try to get on/off there.
Spoke to the driver about it asking how many years of the X51 existing they still feel the need to advertise this, and his smart arse response was since the 60s when Midland Red had an service that didn't set down before / set down after Scott Arms, I wasn't personally counting them days but fair point lol

Don't the other Walsall depot limited stop services 934, 935, 936 & 997 stop at the Bartons Arms, besides the 51?

If the X51 is supposed to interwork with the 997 in future,  hope the driver remembers which route he's doing!

No they don't stop at the Barton Arms. All apart from the X51 stop at St. Stephens Street stop by Royal Mail, the next stop after
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 13, 2014, 07:12:34 AM
Anyone reliant on the  board thats 0659 313 for starters,  it's running nearly 10 minutes late!

Didn't arrive at Bradford Place till 708am!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on October 13, 2014, 05:48:09 PM
857 on Beechdale Estate....1970 style!  https://www.flickr.com/photos/78104432@N07/9303191246/in/photostream
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 16, 2014, 07:21:14 AM
4527/4528 have come to Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 17, 2014, 02:20:07 PM
1421/1479 look withdrawn at Walsall

4518/4519 at Walsall not sure on loan or permanent

4518-301
4519-7A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on October 18, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
4518 and 4519 were back at WB today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 18, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
4770 is now without its 997 branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 18, 2014, 04:45:58 PM
4528 out on the 40 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 18, 2014, 04:56:18 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on October 18, 2014, 03:57:50 PM
4518 and 4519 were back at WB today.

Must of been a loan

4530 has come to walsall on 10/10A today

So waiting for 1900/2/3/4 to transfer to Yardley Wood

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 18, 2014, 04:58:59 PM
Quote from: John on October 18, 2014, 04:39:34 PM
4770 is now without its 997 branding

All X51 branded 4684/5/6 have lost there branding



Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on October 18, 2014, 07:38:58 PM
1899 is back at Walsall so not quite sure what the gen is with geminis and route branding etc. The 53 plate Geminis at WB are of a poor presentational standard, mismatches of trim, paintwork, panelling, connection bars and years of vandalism just being ignored, hopefully Walsall do something with them this time round
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on October 18, 2014, 08:57:13 PM
Or perhapes send them back to WB for them to sort them out and then WA except them..why should years of neglect come out of WA budget to correct.?.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on October 18, 2014, 10:02:57 PM
Not too sad to see 1899 go back to WA - not quite up to YW Scanias standards - the gearbox is jumpy at lower speeds and suspension at the rear needs some attention. It is fast, but is not as good as YW's current batch of Scanias.

The Geminis are a mess - worse than the Tridents in terms of presentation at the minute. AG's are similar - mismatches of panel colours and seat covers. Vandalism though is lower at AG and is dealt with pretty well. The majority of the Geminis need pushing through the refurb shop ASAP after the TWM livery has finally been eradicated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 19, 2014, 09:07:44 PM
1899 is still at Yardley Wood, was on the 6 in Birmingham at 8pm tonight
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on October 19, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Thanks John. Must just have been a short loan Ashley was on about.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 19, 2014, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 19, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Thanks John. Must just have been a short loan Ashley was on about.

Or it never went back
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2014, 07:06:35 AM
1763 on the board that starts 0659 313 from Walsall.

(Seems to be more regular a B7LRE on this one, so is it worth mentioning now?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on October 20, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 19, 2014, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 19, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Thanks John. Must just have been a short loan Ashley was on about.

Or it never went back

Was on the 4's on Friday, I looked more than once to be sure
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2014, 06:25:18 PM
Quote from: Ashley on October 20, 2014, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 19, 2014, 09:28:21 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on October 19, 2014, 09:22:12 PM
Thanks John. Must just have been a short loan Ashley was on about.

Or it never went back

Was on the 4's on Friday, I looked more than once to be sure


On Friday 1899
left YW garage at 07:54 and ran to Hawkesley and than at 08:34 returned to Yardley Wood garage arriving back at 08:51. It was then in YW garage until it came out of garage at 14:36 ran private to Solihull and was on the 6 until running back to Yardley Wood garage at 18:53.

Certainly nowhere near Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on October 20, 2014, 08:39:29 PM
Anyone know why 1881 ran not in service towards Wolverhampton? No 39's, 40's, 69's or 89's start off at Wolverhampton do they? ??? Seen passing Wednesfield High St
@0735
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on October 20, 2014, 08:59:26 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on October 20, 2014, 08:39:29 PM
Anyone know why 1881 ran not in service towards Wolverhampton? No 39's, 40's, 69's or 89's start off at Wolverhampton do they? ??? Seen passing Wednesfield High St
@0735

Seen it on the 39 at 17.16
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 22, 2014, 06:58:02 AM
Tony, was there a Dudley board running late this morning?

I just missed the 649 311 from Walsall, then a 313 turned up & left straightaway at 653, when the next one should be the 659 313 straight from garage.

(He wasn't running early surely?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 22, 2014, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 22, 2014, 06:58:02 AM
Tony, was there a Dudley board running late this morning?

I just missed the 649 311 from Walsall, then a 313 turned up & left straightaway at 653, when the next one should be the 659 313 straight from garage.

(He wasn't running early surely?)

Yes that was the 06:39 departure
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 22, 2014, 12:59:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 22, 2014, 09:16:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 22, 2014, 06:58:02 AM
Tony, was there a Dudley board running late this morning?

I just missed the 649 311 from Walsall, then a 313 turned up & left straightaway at 653, when the next one should be the 659 313 straight from garage.

(He wasn't running early surely?)

Yes that was the 06:39 departure

Thought as much.

They did that a few months back too!

Why didnt they run private to Myvod as the next Walsall departure was 659?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on October 22, 2014, 05:50:47 PM
Seen 582 on Wolverhampton bus station with 39 on it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on October 24, 2014, 02:45:16 PM
An article in this week's Halesowen News, the 4H will be diverted via Lodgefield Road "soon"

http://www.halesowennews.co.uk/news/11552204.Bus_route_diverted_onto_Cradley_Heath_estate_after_protest/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on October 25, 2014, 12:50:09 PM
4775 has now lost its 997 branding out on 51 today
4772 has also debranded - out on 934/6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 25, 2014, 05:15:53 PM
244,582 and 669 all on the 29 today.

Also several Gemini's on the 6 and 77 today although i presume this is a regular thing nowadays?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on October 27, 2014, 06:03:10 PM
How come 7 of the NXWM 301's i've seen have been B7's? Have all the Scanias been put on other routes [4/4H/4M, 311/313]?. Also what's the PVR of the 301 and 302?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on October 27, 2014, 06:10:34 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on October 27, 2014, 06:03:10 PM
How come 7 of the NXWM 301's i've seen have been B7's? Have all the Scanias been put on other routes [4/4H/4M, 311/313]?. Also what's the PVR of the 301 and 302?

See previous posts on route allocation changes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 27, 2014, 06:10:48 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on October 27, 2014, 06:03:10 PM
How come 7 of the NXWM 301's i've seen have been B7's? Have all the Scanias been put on other routes [4/4H/4M, 311/313]?. Also what's the PVR of the 301 and 302?

Walsall have lost OmniLinks to Yardley Wood replaced by ex-West Brom Geminis. These recent arrivals seem to have converted the 10/10A to mainly Decker operation, and the B7RLEs have replaced the OmniLinks on the 301. There was one OmniLink on the 301 today still
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 27, 2014, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on October 27, 2014, 06:03:10 PM
How come 7 of the NXWM 301's i've seen have been B7's? Have all the Scanias been put on other routes [4/4H/4M, 311/313]?. Also what's the PVR of the 301 and 302?

It was posted elsewhere that the 301 has 8 B7RLE's allocated to it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 27, 2014, 07:03:02 PM
So if the 301 is now mostly B7LRE & the 302 is staying B7LRE, theres no excuse to not brand up!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on October 28, 2014, 07:51:35 AM
4306 done on 7A yesterday
4130 done on 8/89 yesterday

All 10 are double deck apart from 10-07 which goes to X56 after 1640 hrs.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 28, 2014, 08:01:21 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on October 28, 2014, 07:51:35 AM
4306 done on 7A yesterday
4130 done on 8/89 yesterday

All 10 are double deck apart from 10-07 which goes to X56 after 1640 hrs.

and 10-08 also an eclipse today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on October 28, 2014, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on October 28, 2014, 07:51:35 AM
4306 done on 7A yesterday
4130 done on 8/89 yesterday

All 10 are double deck apart from 10-07 which goes to X56 after 1640 hrs.

Not sure what happened to it but the X56 departed Birmingham 35 minutes late this evening. The X51 at the same time was on time, so it can't have been traffic congestion on the previous X51 and I'd be surprised if it accumulated a 35 minute delay on the 10 during half term!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 28, 2014, 08:43:24 PM
Quote from: notepanel on October 28, 2014, 08:37:08 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on October 28, 2014, 07:51:35 AM
4306 done on 7A yesterday
4130 done on 8/89 yesterday

All 10 are double deck apart from 10-07 which goes to X56 after 1640 hrs.

Not sure what happened to it but the X56 departed Birmingham 35 minutes late this evening. The X51 at the same time was on time, so it can't have been traffic congestion on the previous X51 and I'd be surprised if it accumulated a 35 minute delay on the 10 during half term!

Something happened to 1771 on it's last trip on the 10, so 1779 which was just finishing a running board on the 301 was sent into Birmingham instead
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 30, 2014, 09:09:49 PM
Consequetive numbered B10Ls following each other. Not often you can get that now. 1434 with 1433 behind
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on October 30, 2014, 09:43:02 PM
Nice shot there Tony - 1434's paintwork has faded badly there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 03, 2014, 06:58:59 AM
1886 has just arrived on the Dudley board I normally catch still sporting its Rail Replacement poster on the nearside window.

(Suppose the Chase Line was off again!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 03, 2014, 07:35:34 PM
noticed today 4771 on the offside still carries the Birmingham/City University/Aldridge on the side (:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 03, 2014, 07:42:40 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 03, 2014, 07:35:34 PM
noticed today 4771 on the offside still carries the Birmingham/City University/Aldridge on the side (:

Doesn't in the photo I took last week
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4771.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on November 03, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
You can make out some faint words saying Birmingham, Aldridge etc. just above the door on 4771 in that photo.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 03, 2014, 07:52:08 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on November 03, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
You can make out some faint words saying Birmingham, Aldridge etc. just above the door on 4771 in that photo.

You can on every bus that has had branding removed, the paint is much brighter where it has been protected from light
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 03, 2014, 08:09:46 PM
One of the ex-997 Enviro400 still has the branding (just the white writing) on the offside above the drivers cab window
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 03, 2014, 08:51:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 03, 2014, 07:42:40 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on November 03, 2014, 07:35:34 PM
noticed today 4771 on the offside still carries the Birmingham/City University/Aldridge on the side (:

Doesn't in the photo I took last week
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4771.html

Psorry my mistake - above the drivers side
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wolves256 on November 03, 2014, 11:07:33 PM
I assume that when all the TravelWM buses have been repainted/retrimed then the 57 plate E400s will follow.
The debranded 997 and 50 branded examples look very tired
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on November 04, 2014, 12:24:52 AM
Are the leather seated enviros not used on the 997 anymore? ??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 04, 2014, 08:23:15 AM
Quote from: Bob on November 04, 2014, 12:24:52 AM
Are the leather seated enviros not used on the 997 anymore? ??

The X51/997 i believe interwork now meaning both X51 and 997 branded vehicles had to be debranded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on November 04, 2014, 11:15:24 AM
Quote from: Bob on November 04, 2014, 12:24:52 AM
Are the leather seated enviros not used on the 997 anymore? ??

I think the allocation of the X51/997 is a mix of Geminis and Enviros
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on November 04, 2014, 03:05:30 PM
Ah so in a way the original 997 Gemini are back on the route they were bought for :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on November 21, 2014, 02:57:49 PM
Nice to see a B10L on 301s today.  Well kept as well and pretty nippy still
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on November 21, 2014, 03:01:16 PM
Also saw one heading to town with 313 dudley on destination blind!  P436 JJW possibly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on November 21, 2014, 05:03:48 PM
1434 is on 311/313 today

And was on 301 yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on November 25, 2014, 07:04:39 PM
1759 recently back from its stint at WN now appears to have 'Super X' (or whatever the term is!) displays.

It was on the 29 yesterday, which had a thick B and 'curly' l's & 302 today with similar styling.


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 27, 2014, 07:15:12 AM
No 313 659am from Walsall this morning.
Everyone had to pile on the 709 311 which was slightly late anyway!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on November 29, 2014, 08:21:34 AM
do the WA Omnilinks have a door pedal or not?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 29, 2014, 09:45:52 AM
A B7Lre broken down on the Nx 301 stand in Walsall BS this morning.

(Forgot number)

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on December 03, 2014, 05:58:31 PM
Not sure if this has been posted before, and it could be posted to a more appropriate place, I guess, but in the course of my work today I came across this little beauty:

http://www.wrightsgroup.com/datasheets/Gemini%203.pdf
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 03, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
To show how good the Volvo B7/Eclipse combination can be, today all 38 7 year old Eclipse were allocated to service this morning peak, not one was under maintenance, which itself is excellent for any large batch of 7 year old buses, but up until now only one has had to be taken off service, 1782 on the 41 and this was immediately replaced in Walsall bus station and was not an actual breakdown.

Carrying on from that with the Volvo/Wright combination Walsall also sent all 14 remaining B10L out in service today, 12 covering all running boards on the 34/38/39 and two on the 301, again not one has broken down or had to be changed with all 14 still out in service at 18:00. 100% record for 17/18 year old buses.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on December 03, 2014, 07:00:58 PM
Incredible work by WA, and a testament to the Wright/Volvo build quality - I think you mentioned a few weeks ago Tony how WA had managed once again to get all the Liberators out in service, with no breakdown. Interesting that despite their proven reliability, NX still decide to invest in ADL.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: arrifirststage on December 03, 2014, 07:50:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
To show how good the Volvo B7/Eclipse combination can be, today all 38 7 year old Eclipse were allocated to service this morning peak, not one was under maintenance, which itself is excellent for any large batch of 7 year old buses, but up until now only one has had to be taken off service, 1782 on the 41 and this was immediately replaced in Walsall bus station and was not an actual breakdown.

Carrying on from that with the Volvo/Wright combination Walsall also sent all 14 remaining B10L out in service today, 12 covering all running boards on the 34/38/39 and two on the 301, again not one has broken down or had to be changed with all 14 still out in service at 18:00. 100% record for 17/18 year old buses.
This is really quite amazing........makes me wonder why different operators have different opinions about the same buses.Arriva Midlands for example have a similar batch of B7/Wright at leicester,but have never repeated it.
Is it to do with maintenance schedules,or favourable purchasing deals or some other reasons?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: arrifirststage on December 03, 2014, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
To show how good the Volvo B7/Eclipse combination can be, today all 38 7 year old Eclipse were allocated to service this morning peak, not one was under maintenance, which itself is excellent for any large batch of 7 year old buses, but up until now only one has had to be taken off service, 1782 on the 41 and this was immediately replaced in Walsall bus station and was not an actual breakdown.

Carrying on from that with the Volvo/Wright combination Walsall also sent all 14 remaining B10L out in service today, 12 covering all running boards on the 34/38/39 and two on the 301, again not one has broken down or had to be changed with all 14 still out in service at 18:00. 100% record for 17/18 year old buses.
This is really quite amazing........makes me wonder why different operators have different opinions about the same buses.Arriva Midlands for example have a similar batch of B7/Wright at leicester,but have never repeated it.
Is it to do with maintenance schedules,or favourable purchasing deals or some other reasons?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on December 03, 2014, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
To show how good the Volvo B7/Eclipse combination can be, today all 38 7 year old Eclipse were allocated to service this morning peak, not one was under maintenance, which itself is excellent for any large batch of 7 year old buses, but up until now only one has had to be taken off service, 1782 on the 41 and this was immediately replaced in Walsall bus station and was not an actual breakdown.

Carrying on from that with the Volvo/Wright combination Walsall also sent all 14 remaining B10L out in service today, 12 covering all running boards on the 34/38/39 and two on the 301, again not one has broken down or had to be changed with all 14 still out in service at 18:00. 100% record for 17/18 year old buses.

The Wright Volvo B7RLE is indeed a mighty fine bus. I don't see why the newer versions, which are quiet, smooth and rattle free get such a bad press from some on here, they are excellent vehicles.

As it is we now have only giant mutant hair dryers to look forward to for the next 5 years.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on December 03, 2014, 08:48:32 PM
Quote from: Mike K on December 03, 2014, 08:33:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
To show how good the Volvo B7/Eclipse combination can be, today all 38 7 year old Eclipse were allocated to service this morning peak, not one was under maintenance, which itself is excellent for any large batch of 7 year old buses, but up until now only one has had to be taken off service, 1782 on the 41 and this was immediately replaced in Walsall bus station and was not an actual breakdown.

Carrying on from that with the Volvo/Wright combination Walsall also sent all 14 remaining B10L out in service today, 12 covering all running boards on the 34/38/39 and two on the 301, again not one has broken down or had to be changed with all 14 still out in service at 18:00. 100% record for 17/18 year old buses.

The Wright Volvo B7RLE is indeed a mighty fine bus. I don't see why the newer versions, which are quiet, smooth and rattle free get such a bad press from some on here, they are excellent vehicles.

As it is we now have only giant mutant hair dryers to look forward to for the next 5 years.

My only complaint about the newer Wright Eclipse 2 B7RLEs is that despite the claims that they can carry 52 people standing, there is a distinct lack of handrails for passengers to hold on to while standing, while still allowing other passengers to freely move on and off the bus. Where these people are expected to stand still seems like a mathematically impossible task to me, though it doesn't help that standing passengers really prefer to stand next to the driver on the platform, rather than moving down the bus, or standing where the fold-down seats are!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on December 03, 2014, 08:59:01 PM
look after a volvo both in terms of mainrenance and driver behaviour they will give sterling service. i think wrights have slipped a bit the eclipse 2's are rattling alot esp cab area. i would guess adl must have done a hard to refuse deal to tie into them for 5 years. shame really especially as far as the lwb e200's cos they are shockingly bad.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on December 03, 2014, 11:20:02 PM
Quote from: arrifirststage on December 03, 2014, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
To show how good the Volvo B7/Eclipse combination can be, today all 38 7 year old Eclipse were allocated to service this morning peak, not one was under maintenance, which itself is excellent for any large batch of 7 year old buses, but up until now only one has had to be taken off service, 1782 on the 41 and this was immediately replaced in Walsall bus station and was not an actual breakdown.

Carrying on from that with the Volvo/Wright combination Walsall also sent all 14 remaining B10L out in service today, 12 covering all running boards on the 34/38/39 and two on the 301, again not one has broken down or had to be changed with all 14 still out in service at 18:00. 100% record for 17/18 year old buses.
This is really quite amazing........makes me wonder why different operators have different opinions about the same buses.Arriva Midlands for example have a similar batch of B7/Wright at leicester,but have never repeated it.
Is it to do with maintenance schedules,or favourable purchasing deals or some other reasons?

Reading the above,  the same could never be said about daf/vdl sb200 buses could it? Ive lost count of the amount of times thryve broken down.  And they are nowhere near as smooth or quiet as 56 plate volvos. Then again look at the wright bodied trio of volvo B10BLEs that cannock had. They were off road more often than one. 3619 left in bus stn overnight on one occasion.  How come nx can have smooth reliable 17/18 yr old buses but arriva have W plate ones that were unreliable sheds???? Despite being newer!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on December 04, 2014, 02:23:20 AM
Quote from: Bob on December 03, 2014, 11:20:02 PM
Quote from: arrifirststage on December 03, 2014, 07:50:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
To show how good the Volvo B7/Eclipse combination can be, today all 38 7 year old Eclipse were allocated to service this morning peak, not one was under maintenance, which itself is excellent for any large batch of 7 year old buses, but up until now only one has had to be taken off service, 1782 on the 41 and this was immediately replaced in Walsall bus station and was not an actual breakdown.

Carrying on from that with the Volvo/Wright combination Walsall also sent all 14 remaining B10L out in service today, 12 covering all running boards on the 34/38/39 and two on the 301, again not one has broken down or had to be changed with all 14 still out in service at 18:00. 100% record for 17/18 year old buses.
This is really quite amazing........makes me wonder why different operators have different opinions about the same buses.Arriva Midlands for example have a similar batch of B7/Wright at leicester,but have never repeated it.
Is it to do with maintenance schedules,or favourable purchasing deals or some other reasons?

Reading the above,  the same could never be said about daf/vdl sb200 buses could it? Ive lost count of the amount of times they've broken down.  And they are nowhere near as smooth or quiet as 56 plate volvos. Then again look at the wright bodied trio of volvo B10BLEs that cannock had. They were off road more often than one. 3619 left in bus stn overnight on one occasion.  How come nx can have smooth reliable 17/18 yr old buses but arriva have W plate ones that were unreliable sheds???? Despite being newer!

Arriva is shit, that's why.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 04, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
And to prove it wasn't a fluke all 38 B7/Eclipse out again today, although 1475 of the B10Ls is having a day of rest!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on December 04, 2014, 11:18:06 AM
Id say its an example of good maintenance Tony! I went on a p reg b10l a couple of weeks ago, sweet as a nut, well kept interior etc. I went on a cannock dart yesterday,  BU51 KWM, and it was on a par with something sunny or grs would operate.  Vibrated so badly that the coins inthe cab were rattling,  faded threadbare seats, screeching brakes, and the bus rattled generally when it wasnt vibrating when idling or slowing to turn corners.  Imagine if that was someones first impression of arriva.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on December 08, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
301/302 have reduced return fares of £2.50 from today on destination blinds
But nit advertised anywhere.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on December 09, 2014, 07:53:02 PM
19:37 51 from walsall failed to show up... Half hour wait here it is then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 09, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 08, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
301/302 have reduced return fares of £2.50 from today on destination blinds
But nit advertised anywhere.

Hmm. Having a crack at Diamond then?

Only thing is if Diamond axe the routes, then theres nothing to stop Nx putting the fare back up  & maybe amending the timetable!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on December 09, 2014, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 09, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 08, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
301/302 have reduced return fares of £2.50 from today on destination blinds
But nit advertised anywhere.

Hmm. Having a crack at Diamond then?

Only thing is if Diamond axe the routes, then theres nothing to stop Nx putting the fare back up  & maybe amending the timetable!

The wonders of a deregulated bus service. ...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 10, 2014, 05:08:51 AM
Quote from: Bob on December 09, 2014, 10:48:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 09, 2014, 10:08:00 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on December 08, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
301/302 have reduced return fares of £2.50 from today on destination blinds
But nit advertised anywhere.

Hmm. Having a crack at Diamond then?

Only thing is if Diamond axe the routes, then theres nothing to stop Nx putting the fare back up  & maybe amending the timetable!

The wonders of a deregulated bus service. ...

Too true.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on December 12, 2014, 12:44:20 PM
301/302 route branded £2.50 return fare 1750-1758

1755 on 8/89 today with branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 12, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
And to prove it wasn't a fluke all 38 B7/Eclipse out again today,

The B7RLEs are really showing their class today
Out of 186 Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse 1750-87 & 2001-29/59-177 the only one not used in service this morning was 2006 at Wolverhampton. That is 99.4% availability. If only all buses were that good!

The Enviro 400s that are in the same age range never get anywhere near that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on December 12, 2014, 01:02:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
And to prove it wasn't a fluke all 38 B7/Eclipse out again today,

The B7RLEs are really showing their class today
Out of 186 Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse 1750-87 & 2001-29/59-177 the only one not used in service this morning was 2006 at Wolverhampton. That is 99.4% availability. If only all buses were that good!

The Enviro 400s that are in the same age range never get anywhere near that

Which begs the question why NX signed a multi-year deal with ADL??? They may have a got a cheaper deal, but you get what you pay for.

I'd have liked to have seen NX standardize on Wright products myself for single deckers at least and ADL E400MMC for double deck requirements

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on December 12, 2014, 09:43:29 PM
i havent seen 2006 out for a few days either.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on December 13, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
And to prove it wasn't a fluke all 38 B7/Eclipse out again today,

The B7RLEs are really showing their class today
Out of 186 Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse 1750-87 & 2001-29/59-177 the only one not used in service this morning was 2006 at Wolverhampton. That is 99.4% availability. If only all buses were that good!

The Enviro 400s that are in the same age range never get anywhere near that

Would be interesting to see the figures for the Gemini deckers as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 13, 2014, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 13, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
And to prove it wasn't a fluke all 38 B7/Eclipse out again today,

The B7RLEs are really showing their class today
Out of 186 Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse 1750-87 & 2001-29/59-177 the only one not used in service this morning was 2006 at Wolverhampton. That is 99.4% availability. If only all buses were that good!

The Enviro 400s that are in the same age range never get anywhere near that

Would be interesting to see the figures for the Gemini deckers as well

West Bromwich get all 18 47xx out most days
Walsall have had all of 4680-6 out all this week
Yesterday AG just had 4 not in use, two of which are in paint at walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 13, 2014, 02:15:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 13, 2014, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 13, 2014, 02:09:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 12, 2014, 12:50:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 04, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
And to prove it wasn't a fluke all 38 B7/Eclipse out again today,

The B7RLEs are really showing their class today
Out of 186 Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse 1750-87 & 2001-29/59-177 the only one not used in service this morning was 2006 at Wolverhampton. That is 99.4% availability. If only all buses were that good!

The Enviro 400s that are in the same age range never get anywhere near that

Would be interesting to see the figures for the Gemini deckers as well

West Bromwich get all 18 47xx out most days
Walsall have had all of 4680-6 out all this week
Yesterday AG just had 4 not in use, two of which are in paint at walsall

They aren't as good as the singles generally because they are older
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on December 13, 2014, 02:36:25 PM
Tony as your in a position to see vehicle types out in service how about a once a month league table on vehicle types, Just an idea i thought i,d throw out there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on December 14, 2014, 09:50:54 AM
What do think's going to happen to Walsall' fleet when the new buses arrive?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 14, 2014, 10:08:53 AM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on December 14, 2014, 09:50:54 AM
What do think's going to happen to Walsall' fleet when the new buses arrive?

B10Ls will sadly be withdrawn.... :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on December 15, 2014, 07:52:57 PM
Can anyone answer why the 41 journey that arrives at Cornwall Gate @1729 (timetabled to, at least) is almost always late, as most times i use it, it arrives around 1740, only 5 mins ahead of the 28, not good for a quarter hourly service on that road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 15, 2014, 07:58:03 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on December 15, 2014, 07:52:57 PM
Can anyone answer why the 41 journey that arrives at Cornwall Gate @1729 (timetabled to, at least) is almost always late, as most times i use it, it arrives around 1740, only 5 mins ahead of the 28, not good for a quarter hourly service on that road

Spot on time tonight if you mean towards Willenhall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on December 15, 2014, 08:08:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 15, 2014, 07:58:03 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on December 15, 2014, 07:52:57 PM
Can anyone answer why the 41 journey that arrives at Cornwall Gate @1729 (timetabled to, at least) is almost always late, as most times i use it, it arrives around 1740, only 5 mins ahead of the 28, not good for a quarter hourly service on that road

Spot on time tonight if you mean towards Willenhall

Typical, the day i get a lift, the damn thing's on time!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on December 16, 2014, 05:30:47 PM
Alright, anyone able to think of an excuse as to why only the 41 i seem to go for, seems to have its timetable screwed up, as the same journey is now supposed to arrive around 1750 not 1729 as it should
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on December 18, 2014, 01:20:23 PM
WB-4508 is on 934/936 today

0915 1315 934 Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on December 26, 2014, 12:47:42 PM
Board 4/09 is 4130
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on December 26, 2014, 04:31:19 PM
Do the 34/39 interwork on Sundays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on December 26, 2014, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on December 26, 2014, 04:31:19 PM
Do the 34/39 interwork on Sundays

I don't believe so if they do its at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on December 26, 2014, 05:29:12 PM
Quote from: NXDom on December 26, 2014, 04:38:07 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on December 26, 2014, 04:31:19 PM
Do the 34/39 interwork on Sundays

I don't believe so if they do its at Walsall

No interworking on Sundays. Just 1 bus on the 39(E) & 1 bus on the 34(E).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on December 26, 2014, 08:28:43 PM
Deckers on the 4m again like last year
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 29, 2014, 02:04:58 PM
There's a b7 on 4H departed halesowen at 12:03
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 29, 2014, 07:52:53 PM
I've got a day out tomorrow to fetch a Levante from Sipson Road for Walsall garage to use for driver training although I believe this one is not staying so won't actually joining Walsall's fleet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 30, 2014, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 29, 2014, 07:52:53 PM
I've got a day out tomorrow to fetch a Levante from Sipson Road for Walsall garage to use for driver training although I believe this one is not staying so won't actually joining Walsall's fleet.

Former Rotala SR171 is now on loan to Walsall for a couple of week for driver familiarisation. This one is not expected to be used by Walsall. Initially it is the current Whittles Levantes that will be on loan.

SR171 was chosen as it is identical to the Whittles vehicles
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andrew1991 on January 05, 2015, 01:18:29 PM
Any idea why there was a 51 branded enviro driving around Stourbridge ring road this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley on January 07, 2015, 10:54:19 AM
1439 is the B10 on 40/41, 1117 40 ex Wolverhampton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 09, 2015, 10:41:22 AM
Walsall's first day operating coaches is this Sunday (11/1) initially using some of the Whittles coaches hired from East Yorkshire and two coaches borrowed from Sipson Road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on January 11, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Can anyone clarify if there was an E200 on the WA89 today, as Liam, off the forum, says that one has appeared today. Is this true?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 11, 2015, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 11, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Can anyone clarify if there was an E200 on the WA89 today, as Liam, off the forum, says that one has appeared today. Is this true?

Not true, 1771 & 1787 have operated all journeys on the 89 today between them. All 6 were in the garage when I popped in earlier and none are showing as being used
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on January 11, 2015, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2015, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 11, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Can anyone clarify if there was an E200 on the WA89 today, as Liam, off the forum, says that one has appeared today. Is this true?

Not true, 1771 & 1787 have operated all journeys on the 89 today between them. All 6 were in the garage when I popped in earlier and none are showing as being used

Thanks Tony, thought it seemed unlikely on a Sunday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 11, 2015, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2015, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 11, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Can anyone clarify if there was an E200 on the WA89 today, as Liam, off the forum, says that one has appeared today. Is this true?

Not true, 1771 & 1787 have operated all journeys on the 89 today between them. All 6 were in the garage when I popped in earlier and none are showing as being used
If all 6 E200's were in garage then what operated the 70 today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 11, 2015, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 11, 2015, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2015, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 11, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Can anyone clarify if there was an E200 on the WA89 today, as Liam, off the forum, says that one has appeared today. Is this true?

Not true, 1771 & 1787 have operated all journeys on the 89 today between them. All 6 were in the garage when I popped in earlier and none are showing as being used
If all 6 E200's were in garage then what operated the 70 today?

What is normally on the 70 on a Sunday, two Eclipse
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 11, 2015, 08:29:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2015, 08:28:02 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 11, 2015, 07:55:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 11, 2015, 07:48:07 PM
Quote from: ARJ2901 on January 11, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Can anyone clarify if there was an E200 on the WA89 today, as Liam, off the forum, says that one has appeared today. Is this true?

Not true, 1771 & 1787 have operated all journeys on the 89 today between them. All 6 were in the garage when I popped in earlier and none are showing as being used
If all 6 E200's were in garage then what operated the 70 today?

What is normally on the 70 on a Sunday, two Eclipse

The last few Sundays i was in Walsall, the 70 was E200 operated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on January 23, 2015, 12:36:49 PM
4 branded Omnlink heading to Dudley along 140/241 route through Rowley about 8:30, a result of the Birchley island chaos this morning?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 23, 2015, 05:11:34 PM
I gather, thanks to a loud radio, that at least 2 Walsall drivers came a cropper this morning due to ice in the depot(one of them being my friend's sister!)!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on January 23, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
Oooh

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10937859_10152981275298116_1442708350_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=af5d1cf6e48f368442683b60edd68c85&oe=54C52FCF&__gda__=1422211294_70147f0fa243eada975b069b69f717b3)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2015, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 23, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
Oooh

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10937859_10152981275298116_1442708350_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=af5d1cf6e48f368442683b60edd68c85&oe=54C52FCF&__gda__=1422211294_70147f0fa243eada975b069b69f717b3)

@the trainbasher Announcements as well?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on January 23, 2015, 08:04:27 PM
@Stuharris 6360 yes a bloke doing them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on January 23, 2015, 08:07:59 PM
Have to see that tomorrow, good job i'm headed to Walsall  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on January 23, 2015, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2015, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 23, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
Oooh

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10937859_10152981275298116_1442708350_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=af5d1cf6e48f368442683b60edd68c85&oe=54C52FCF&__gda__=1422211294_70147f0fa243eada975b069b69f717b3)

@the trainbasher Announcements as well?

@the trainbasher  Which bus was this? Curious to know, and do you know if it's on any other bus?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on January 23, 2015, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: clayderman on January 23, 2015, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2015, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 23, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
Oooh

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10937859_10152981275298116_1442708350_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=af5d1cf6e48f368442683b60edd68c85&oe=54C52FCF&__gda__=1422211294_70147f0fa243eada975b069b69f717b3)

@the trainbasher Announcements as well?

@the trainbasher  Which bus was this? Curious to know, and do you know if it's on any other bus?

@clayderman 1852. Not checked the other buses.

Has anyone noticed the mistake on it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on January 23, 2015, 09:08:22 PM
Yes, the 4M doesn't operate via Halesowen, it should read Cradley Heath instead.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on January 23, 2015, 09:33:12 PM
I noticed earlier 4772 has a black box attached to its side, just above the lower windows on the nearside, near the back. Anyone know what it is/what I'm on about? (I can't find any pictures of it with it on)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on January 23, 2015, 10:29:09 PM
1407/1408 Parked at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on January 23, 2015, 10:48:21 PM
Quote from: N94 on January 23, 2015, 09:33:12 PM
I noticed earlier 4772 has a black box attached to its side, just above the lower windows on the nearside, near the back. Anyone know what it is/what I'm on about? (I can't find any pictures of it with it on)

I seem to remember hearing/reading that it was a trial safety device to do with bikes - but I may have made that up!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 23, 2015, 11:18:27 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on January 23, 2015, 08:02:10 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 23, 2015, 08:00:21 PM
Oooh

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10937859_10152981275298116_1442708350_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=af5d1cf6e48f368442683b60edd68c85&oe=54C52FCF&__gda__=1422211294_70147f0fa243eada975b069b69f717b3)

@the trainbasher Announcements as well?

They were doing my sister's head in apparantly!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sayeed on January 24, 2015, 06:36:33 PM
4137 on the 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on January 26, 2015, 03:05:05 PM
Went on 3 branded Scanias today, 1861 was the only one without announcements
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 29, 2015, 07:54:34 PM
An article in express and star stating that a 4H bus was so cold that he had to get off at blackheath( planned journey walsall to halesowen) and stamp his feet, because they were so cold.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
How often did the 997 run when it only went to aldridge?
How often did the 997A run?
And was the 997A successful?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 30, 2015, 08:36:59 AM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
How often did the 997 run when it only went to aldridge?
How often did the 997A run?
And was the 997A successful?

The 997 has never 'only run to Aldridge'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 30, 2015, 10:23:40 AM
From Monday 2 Feb, according to a link on the NX website,  revised timetable on the 51 & x51(operated by Walsall) & 529(operated by Wolves), & to provide extra buses as well, due to current M6 problems.

(Cannock x51's are starting earlier too, with first departure at 6am, which means it reaches Bloxwich at 624, which means me & sister need to get our a**es into gear , or give up & walk round to the Bloxwich Road instead!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on January 30, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
How often did the 997 run when it only went to aldridge?
How often did the 997A run?
And was the 997A successful?

997A to Kingstanding was every 20 minutes combined with the 997 to Walsall making it every 10 minutes between Birmingham & Pheasey 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RR378 on January 30, 2015, 02:31:25 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 29, 2015, 07:54:34 PM
An article in express and star stating that a 4H bus was so cold that he had to get off at blackheath( planned journey walsall to halesowen) and stamp his feet, because they were so cold.

You always get one who will open the windows, link me
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on January 30, 2015, 02:37:02 PM
@RR378 it's like in my office...everyone has their heaters on...I have my fan on!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 30, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
How often did the 997 run when it only went to aldridge?
How often did the 997A run?
And was the 997A successful?

997A to Kingstanding was every 20 minutes combined with the 997 to Walsall making it every 10 minutes between Birmingham & Pheasey
So was it successful?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on January 30, 2015, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 30, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
How often did the 997 run when it only went to aldridge?
How often did the 997A run?
And was the 997A successful?

997A to Kingstanding was every 20 minutes combined with the 997 to Walsall making it every 10 minutes between Birmingham & Pheasey
So was it successful?

If it was successful, then it will still be running!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dutsey on January 30, 2015, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: John on January 30, 2015, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 30, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
How often did the 997 run when it only went to aldridge?
How often did the 997A run?
And was the 997A successful?

997A to Kingstanding was every 20 minutes combined with the 997 to Walsall making it every 10 minutes between Birmingham & Pheasey
So was it successful?

If it was successful, then it will still be running!

Is this just the same as the 997E?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on January 30, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Dutsey on January 30, 2015, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: John on January 30, 2015, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 30, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
How often did the 997 run when it only went to aldridge?
How often did the 997A run?
And was the 997A successful?

997A to Kingstanding was every 20 minutes combined with the 997 to Walsall making it every 10 minutes between Birmingham & Pheasey
So was it successful?

If it was successful, then it will still be running!

Is this just the same as the 997E?

No, it carried on from Pheasey to Kingstanding Circle, I think via the 451 route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 09:02:37 PM
What's the PVR of the 997/X51?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: D10 on January 30, 2015, 09:15:08 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 09:02:37 PM
What's the PVR of the 997/X51?

I believe it is 19.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on January 30, 2015, 10:45:16 PM
Quote from: John on January 30, 2015, 03:02:53 PM
Quote from: Dutsey on January 30, 2015, 02:58:50 PM
Quote from: John on January 30, 2015, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 02:43:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on January 30, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 30, 2015, 07:26:47 AM
How often did the 997 run when it only went to aldridge?
How often did the 997A run?
And was the 997A successful?

997A to Kingstanding was every 20 minutes combined with the 997 to Walsall making it every 10 minutes between Birmingham & Pheasey
So was it successful?

If it was successful, then it will still be running!

Is this just the same as the 997E?

No, it carried on from Pheasey to Kingstanding Circle, I think via the 451 route

I belive the 934A which served Doe Bank Lane was withdrawn replaced with 997A covering the withdrawn 934A around doe bank lane then from Buffet Island it went straight down the Kings Road (451 route) to terminate at Kingstanding Circle.  I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on January 31, 2015, 08:15:51 AM
Do the X51 and 997 interwork during the off peak hours? E.g

1140 from Walsall arrives into Birmingham at 1215.
Does it then work the 1218 X51 back to Walsall, or the 1223 997 to Walsall?

Or do they just interwork during the peaks?

Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me on this.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on January 31, 2015, 08:34:31 AM
Does anyone know what routes 4733 - 4736 & 4763 - 4776 are on today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 31, 2015, 08:56:55 AM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 31, 2015, 08:34:31 AM
Does anyone know what routes 4733 - 4736 & 4763 - 4776 are on today?

997 & X51 with one on the 10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on January 31, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
Looks like they'll be no 48**'s on the 997/X51 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 31, 2015, 09:10:31 AM
Quote from: Liberator9 on January 31, 2015, 08:15:51 AM
Do the X51 and 997 interwork during the off peak hours? E.g

1140 from Walsall arrives into Birmingham at 1215.
Does it then work the 1218 X51 back to Walsall, or the 1223 997 to Walsall?

Or do they just interwork during the peaks?

Thanks to anyone who can enlighten me on this.

From what I can work out the X51 interworks with the 997E shorts, the full 997 is stand alone during the day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on January 31, 2015, 09:37:57 AM
It does a 997E there and back, then a 997 there and back, then another 997E there and back, then a X51 there and back, then another X51 there and back, And then goes round again.
From what I can work out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on January 31, 2015, 10:25:35 AM
Thanks for the explanation - can get a bit complex at times then!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on January 31, 2015, 10:27:44 AM
Does anyone know why the 997 & X51 now interwork?

Could the 997 & X51 change so they don't interwork?


TheFox4846, please 'EDIT' your posts to add additional questions to prevent double posting, Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on January 31, 2015, 10:45:55 AM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on January 31, 2015, 10:30:57 AM
Could the 997 & X51 change so they don't interwork?

I'd imagine they could. I'd take a guess that the main reason for the change is to allow better duties to be created for drivers.

Previously, they'd do a 997 to Birmingham, 997E to Pheasey, 997E to Birmingham, 997E to Pheasey, 997E to Birmingham, 997 to Walsall. This meant an unbreakable on bus total of 4h50. The standard driver works an average 7h36 shift, which would be awkward to achieve.

The current workings mean there are more opportunities for driver reliefs at Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on January 31, 2015, 10:54:27 AM
Yes but they do get a break at the deers leap
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on January 31, 2015, 12:58:02 PM
Does the 997 interwork with anything on a Sunday? Or do the X51 & 934E/935A still interwork?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 01, 2015, 09:08:06 AM
What buses are on 934E, 935A, 997 & X51 today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on February 01, 2015, 10:39:49 AM
I assume that dears leap is the outer terminus if so the company has put in drop back time there these aren't breaks its company time. I.e if lay over is of ten minutes and bus your driving is running late it allows you to recover the time on the return journey, not always possible. Drivers at NX west Midlands don't get paid breaks. As for better dutys don't make me laugh, while at Walsall the other I had a look at there dutys they are terrible and I thought the west brom dutys were crap.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 02, 2015, 10:03:03 AM
Now here's one to make a few people on here smile.

1408 freshly reinstated this morning at Walsall has just come out as a change bus on the 10/10A, just left Walsall Bus Station
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 02, 2015, 11:00:27 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 02, 2015, 10:03:03 AM
Now here's one to make a few people on here smile.

1408 freshly reinstated this morning at Walsall has just come out as a change bus on the 10/10A, just left Walsall Bus Station

Oooh, my God! ;D That's great to hear. Will catch it later. ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on February 02, 2015, 04:54:41 PM
1406/1407/1408 have been parked in Walsall yard for a few weeks. I thought they was either just stored here or to be converted to Trainers.

I`m glad 1408 is re-instated hopefully 1406/1407 will be as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 03, 2015, 06:44:23 AM
Enterprising driver on the first X51 from Cannock this morning, handing out photostat timetables of the temporary change until May.

Centro havent updated roadside timetables yet though.

Not many people on that bus though unless they are waiting for the earlier second bus?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2015, 08:27:03 AM
Walsall have now got 1407 fit for service and its first day out today is on a 34/38/39 running board.

The extra two B10Ls mean that they are spreading there wings a bit 1436 is out all day on the 77, 1419 is on a morning peak board on the 77
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 08:27:03 AM
Walsall have now got 1407 fit for service and its first day out today is on a 34/38/39 running board.

The extra two B10Ls mean that they are spreading there wings a bit 1436 is out all day on the 77, 1419 is on a morning peak board on the 77

And with both 1434 & 1439 out on the 301 Walsall managed to get all 16 remaining B10Ls out in service this morning!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on February 04, 2015, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 08:27:03 AM
Walsall have now got 1407 fit for service and its first day out today is on a 34/38/39 running board.

The extra two B10Ls mean that they are spreading there wings a bit 1436 is out all day on the 77, 1419 is on a morning peak board on the 77

And with both 1434 & 1439 out on the 301 Walsall managed to get all 16 remaining B10Ls out in service this morning!

Brilliant! Where's 1408 Tony?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 04, 2015, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 08:27:03 AM
Walsall have now got 1407 fit for service and its first day out today is on a 34/38/39 running board.

The extra two B10Ls mean that they are spreading there wings a bit 1436 is out all day on the 77, 1419 is on a morning peak board on the 77

And with both 1434 & 1439 out on the 301 Walsall managed to get all 16 remaining B10Ls out in service this morning!

Shows how reliable these older buses are!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on February 04, 2015, 02:54:30 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 04, 2015, 02:04:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 08:27:03 AM
Walsall have now got 1407 fit for service and its first day out today is on a 34/38/39 running board.

The extra two B10Ls mean that they are spreading there wings a bit 1436 is out all day on the 77, 1419 is on a morning peak board on the 77

And with both 1434 & 1439 out on the 301 Walsall managed to get all 16 remaining B10Ls out in service this morning!

Brilliant! Where's 1408 Tony?

Found it!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 04, 2015, 02:56:14 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on February 04, 2015, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 12:40:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2015, 08:27:03 AM
Walsall have now got 1407 fit for service and its first day out today is on a 34/38/39 running board.

The extra two B10Ls mean that they are spreading there wings a bit 1436 is out all day on the 77, 1419 is on a morning peak board on the 77

And with both 1434 & 1439 out on the 301 Walsall managed to get all 16 remaining B10Ls out in service this morning!

Shows how reliable these older buses are!

Absolutely! ;D

I hope there will be a B10L or two creeping back onto WA 69 soon. ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on February 04, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
Unfortunately 1407 has broken down (blown up) and is awaiting assistance on the Black Country Route just short of Oxford Street Island in Bilston  :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 04, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 04, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
Unfortunately 1407 has blown up and as awaiting assistance on the Black Country Route just short of Oxford Street Island in Bilston  :(

Blown up? :o Like boom, bus on fire...? ::) Surely that is a wrong description. Could it be 'broken down'?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on February 04, 2015, 03:41:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 04, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 04, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
Unfortunately 1407 has blown up and as awaiting assistance on the Black Country Route just short of Oxford Street Island in Bilston  :(

Blown up? :o Like boom, bus on fire...? ::) Surely that is a wrong description. Could it be 'broken down'?

Does it really matter???? It's the same thing that people say in different ways!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 04, 2015, 03:43:34 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 04, 2015, 03:41:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 04, 2015, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 04, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
Unfortunately 1407 has blown up and as awaiting assistance on the Black Country Route just short of Oxford Street Island in Bilston  :(

Blown up? :o Like boom, bus on fire...? ::) Surely that is a wrong description. Could it be 'broken down'?

Does it really matter???? It's the same thing that people say in different ways!!

Yes. It does matter.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on February 04, 2015, 05:39:11 PM
Well 1406 will not be joining the Walsall fleet but glad 1407/1408 hang on a llittle longer at Walsall.

Be nice if original Walsall 1401 1404 1472 1473 ever was reinstated to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 04, 2015, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: X94 on February 04, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
Unfortunately 1407 has broken down (blown up) and is awaiting assistance on the Black Country Route just short of Oxford Street Island in Bilston  :(

Hardly 'blown up' The engineer got it going again and it completed that running board
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 04, 2015, 08:56:19 PM
What is the PVR of WA10/10A?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on February 05, 2015, 07:56:10 AM
4139 appeared to give up the ghost this morning when it got into brum on the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 05, 2015, 08:08:15 AM
Quote from: Kevin on February 05, 2015, 07:56:10 AM
4139 appeared to give up the ghost this morning when it got into brum on the X51

No, arrived in City 07:36, left City exactly on time at 07:45
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on February 05, 2015, 08:21:56 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 05, 2015, 08:08:15 AM
Quote from: Kevin on February 05, 2015, 07:56:10 AM
4139 appeared to give up the ghost this morning when it got into brum on the X51

No, arrived in City 07:36, left City exactly on time at 07:45

Ok, curious why the driver kicked everyone off at moor st then instead of the usual going out of service and heading round to park up out of the way
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 07, 2015, 07:45:10 AM
Any Deckers on the 10/10A today?
If so what Deckers are they?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 07, 2015, 03:44:51 PM
theres the freshly painted trident (43XX I cant remember which one) and a Gemini I saw whilst on my training
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on February 07, 2015, 04:00:29 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 07, 2015, 07:45:10 AM
Any Deckers on the 10/10A today?
If so what Deckers are they?

4768, 4134 & 4326 are out on the 10/10A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 07, 2015, 07:46:17 PM
Been on 4768 & 4769 today nice buses but I've started to see bits of seats replaced with the new seats.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on February 07, 2015, 08:58:26 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 07, 2015, 07:46:17 PM
Been on 4768 & 4769 today nice buses but I've started to see bits of seats replaced with the new seats.

The leather-seated Enviros & the ex-Premier Geminis are all looking quite shabby on the inside now and would benefit from a refurb. Particularly on the buses with the creamish leather the seats look quite dirty, and towards the back upstairs the seats tend to be more like sun-loungers.

As mentioned, a number do have replacement cushions on certain chairs (which are of standard NX fabric).

From a passenger perspective, a refurbished Trident is probably a nicer experience than the supposedly 'Premier' vehicles as things currently stand.

A large chunk of the similarly aged standard Enviros have now been refurbed and I imagine that if the X51 does go Platinum, these buses will be refurbished before moving onto pastures new.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 11, 2015, 07:07:52 PM
How often do the 934/5/6 interwork?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on February 11, 2015, 08:54:34 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 11, 2015, 07:07:52 PM
How often do the 934/5/6 interwork?

As a general rule, during the main 'daytime' period, the 934 interworks with the 936 at Birmingham, whilst the 935 works on its own. During peak periods (and early morning/evening on Saturdays), the 935/E is also mixed in due to increased journey times.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 11, 2015, 09:29:15 PM
Which routes do the peak time extras for the 935/E come of?

What's the PVR of the 934/5/6?

Also what's the PVR of the 51?

Use the 'Modify' button to combine your posts in future, or face having them deleted!

If you're that concerned with route Pvrs, download a timetable & work it out for yourself as others have to!!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 12, 2015, 09:31:48 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 12, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Also what's the PVR of the 51?

You can click the modify button on the previous quote, which will save clogging up the thread
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 12, 2015, 09:51:47 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 12, 2015, 09:29:14 PM
Also what's the PVR of the 51?

However many times you ask these questions you will not get an answer from an NX employee.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on February 15, 2015, 09:22:24 PM
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3547.120;topicseen
1475 was on the 38 yesterday
and posted its on the 39 today next routenumber  sequence
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 19, 2015, 08:39:57 PM
Why do I always see at least one 476* enviro (4763 - 4767) a day on the 934/5/6?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2015, 08:44:41 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 19, 2015, 08:39:57 PM
Why do I always see at least one 476* enviro (4763 - 4767) a day on the 934/5/6?
Probably because that is one of the route they work on!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on February 19, 2015, 09:43:41 PM
1780 on the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 20, 2015, 07:11:02 AM
Whats happened to the 311/313 board that starts as the 659 313 from Walsall this morning?

Hasnt turned up.

Ended up getting the 709 311, which is a board already out!

Edit : Its just passed us at Pleck!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 23, 2015, 05:17:14 PM
Oops.

Whoever is driving 1881 at the moment on the 313 needs an A to Z, as he's took the wrong turning(Hales Road?) & missed the Myvod out!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 25, 2015, 04:32:50 PM
4395 freshly repainted

Should this not be posted in the YW garage thread? Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 03, 2015, 07:04:55 AM
The displays being shown on the 301 & 302 have been altered from alternating destination & via with the £2.50 return on a separate page to final destination on top line with the via & the return scrolling on the bottom line.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 03, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on February 25, 2015, 04:32:50 PM
4395 freshly repainted

Should this not be posted in the YW garage thread? Winston

sorry, only put it here as I saw it at Walsall garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on March 06, 2015, 08:05:27 AM
Where is the best place to find the most b10 to photograph
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on March 06, 2015, 08:24:14 AM
Quote from: Rhys S on March 06, 2015, 08:05:27 AM
Where is the best place to find the most b10 to photograph

@Rhys S 34/38/39
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 06, 2015, 10:17:18 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on March 06, 2015, 08:02:53 AM
Walsall B10Ls are out and about today

1419-29
1421-8/89
1454-10/A

What's the timings for 1421 ex Walsall?

Edit: @Nathan gave the time in the noteworthy thread when he saw 1421 so I know the timings. Thanks, Nathan.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 09, 2015, 12:01:59 PM
Nice bit of variety out on the 10 today
Tridents, Geminis, an Enviro 400 and 1408!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on March 10, 2015, 01:20:42 PM
Oneof the ex-997 Enviro400s has the route number on the left and a large destination alternating between Birmingham and Express Service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on March 10, 2015, 03:06:32 PM
@John Its 4772
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 13, 2015, 05:27:45 PM
Any reason why the diversion route for the 313 in Myvod cant be via Ikea/j9 Retail Park instead of having to double back to Hobs Road & go over speed humps!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on March 16, 2015, 08:56:41 AM
I noticed 4131 in Miller Street earlier. When did that get moved to Miller Street?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sayeed on March 16, 2015, 10:01:51 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 16, 2015, 08:56:41 AM
I noticed 4131 in Miller Street earlier. When did that get moved to Miller Street?
Probably came there to receive parts from the 4355?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on March 17, 2015, 10:50:04 PM
Is Walsall the "Paint Shop" of NXWM ?! I'm assuming so as I've seen many buses here (Photographs).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on March 17, 2015, 10:52:18 PM
Quote from: BusFan on March 17, 2015, 10:50:04 PM
Is Walsall the "Paint Shop" of NXWM ?! I'm assuming so as I've seen many buses here (Photographs).
Yes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on March 17, 2015, 10:52:47 PM
Yeap walsall garage has the paint shop facilities
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on March 17, 2015, 10:54:31 PM
That explains the big parking outside (Ariel view). What do other garages have that make them stand out ?!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on March 17, 2015, 10:55:32 PM
Quote from: BusFan on March 17, 2015, 10:54:31 PM
That explains the big parking outside (Ariel view). What do other garages have that make them stand out ?!
To. Me not much just a clean fleet of buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on March 18, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
1408 expired today in Wolverhampton bus station on the 39 - engine trouble, I think.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 18, 2015, 08:02:41 PM
Quote from: Stevo on March 18, 2015, 06:34:32 PM
1408 expired today in Wolverhampton bus station on the 39 - engine trouble, I think.

Apparently 1408 is a complete nail
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 20, 2015, 07:13:08 AM
Quote from: Westy on February 20, 2015, 07:11:02 AM
Whats happened to the 311/313 board that starts as the 659 313 from Walsall this morning?

Hasnt turned up.

Ended up getting the 709 311, which is a board already out!

Edit : Its just passed us at Pleck!

Looks like the same has happened today.

The 313 did turn up eventually at Bradford Place but it was a B10L rather than a Scania or B7Lre.

In the meantime, the 311 turned up & its full already before Pleck!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on March 20, 2015, 10:51:02 AM
4776 just passed me at Stafford Rd, Stafford Close, on the Sapphire 1/2E route, are we allowed to know why?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2015, 11:09:28 AM
Quote from: Alex on March 20, 2015, 10:51:02 AM
4776 just passed me at Stafford Rd, Stafford Close, on the Sapphire 1/2E route, are we allowed to know why?

Probably on its Walsall college contract it does most days. Takes the college football team to wherever they are playing
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2015, 11:43:48 AM
Quote from: Westy on March 20, 2015, 07:13:08 AM
Looks like the same has happened today.

The 313 did turn up eventually at Bradford Place but it was a B10L rather than a Scania or B7Lre.

In the meantime, the 311 turned up & its full already before Pleck!

Three B10Ls having a day out today
1475 is the one on the 311 all day
1431 on the 301
1439 on the 10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 20, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 20, 2015, 11:43:48 AM
Three B10Ls having a day out today
1475 is the one on the 311 all day
1431 on the 301
1439 on the 10

Was the B10 the original allocation for the shift?

I think not seeing it was late.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2015, 01:05:26 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 20, 2015, 12:58:49 PM
Was the B10 the original allocation for the shift?

I think not seeing it was late.

I think not, but without being at the garage all I can see is which buses actually run each journey. If they are pulled before they start service they don't show.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Eric Shaw on March 20, 2015, 07:35:24 PM
4259 on the X51 this afternoon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on March 21, 2015, 09:51:46 PM
Have the transfered Volvos been refurbished ? Walsall early Trident are looking really smart and will be a pity to loose them for buses in a poorer condition.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 21, 2015, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: andyr on March 21, 2015, 09:51:46 PM
Have the transfered Volvos been refurbished ? Walsall early Trident are looking really smart and will be a pity to loose them for buses in a poorer condition.

4258/9 that have moved to date are fairly recent refurbs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 21, 2015, 10:30:32 PM
The b7 alx seem to be quite unloved in General with lots quite vandalised
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 22, 2015, 04:13:13 PM
Whats loadings like today in Walsall compared to normal?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 22, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 22, 2015, 04:13:13 PM
Whats loadings like today in Walsall compared to normal?

4776-81 all carried full loads to Wembley
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 22, 2015, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
4776-81 all carried full loads to Wembley

Ok, but what about Walsall itself?

Was there a marked drop in patronage, compared to normal?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ronnoc on March 22, 2015, 08:18:13 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on March 21, 2015, 10:30:32 PM
The b7 alx seem to be quite unloved in General with lots quite vandalised
I love them, they are beasts. I have never been on one and they are nearing their retiring age. I might film one next. They may get so much criticism but they are much better then a lot of buses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on March 22, 2015, 08:22:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
4776-81 all carried full loads to Wembley

Sorry for my ignorance @Tony but were 4776-81 used because they have tachographs?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 22, 2015, 08:25:26 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on March 22, 2015, 08:22:10 PM
Sorry for my ignorance @Tony but were 4776-81 used because they have tachographs?

Correct Stu. All the buses would have had to have been ones that were tachograph fitted.

Anyway, Just there was an Omnilink parked up about 20:05 in Walsall Bus Station with its lights off. A few moments later 857 pulled in on the 29 and set down its passengers  The Omnilink then pulled off and went back towards garage. Any ideas?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on March 22, 2015, 08:26:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 22, 2015, 08:25:26 PM
Correct Stu. All the buses would have had to have been ones that were tachograph fitted.

Thanks @Nathan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 22, 2015, 08:27:56 PM
What's tachograph fitted?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on March 23, 2015, 06:37:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2015, 05:30:59 PM
4776-81 all carried full loads to Wembley

Tony, thanks for a fantastic day. All professionally organised and your team of drivers and managers did an excellent job. The Scanias can certainly move!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on March 23, 2015, 06:39:55 PM
Quote from: Matt on March 22, 2015, 08:36:15 PM
Legal requirement for private hires...they measure your speed and time spend driving, or at rest

@Trident 4194 did you mean what fleet numbers are tacho fitted?

WN4535 and WA4776 are tacho buses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 23, 2015, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on March 23, 2015, 06:39:55 PM
@Trident 4194 did you mean what fleet numbers are tacho fitted?

WN4535 and WA4776 are tacho buses.

As are PB's DD Omnicities and 4634 at BC
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on March 24, 2015, 09:04:50 AM
Not sure if this one has already been mentioned but 4261 is now at WA, on the 997 this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: filbus1 on March 24, 2015, 09:33:37 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 23, 2015, 06:42:36 PM
As are PB's DD Omnicities and 4634 at BC
4354 always had one at YW when we used it for rallies, not sure if it's been removed now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 24, 2015, 09:36:41 AM
4260 out on 77
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 24, 2015, 11:30:13 AM
4260/4261 at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 24, 2015, 11:32:18 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on March 24, 2015, 11:30:13 AM
4260/4261 at Walsall

Have any more Y Reg Tridents made the move over to WN?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B.C Driver on March 24, 2015, 11:52:47 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on March 24, 2015, 09:36:13 AM
4260 - 77 (WA)

Was on the 67 yesterday so today is its first day at Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on March 24, 2015, 12:39:54 PM
Not gonna lie, not looking forward to the prospect of seeing what looks like a trident coming down the road and it turns out to be a B7TL...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on March 24, 2015, 01:07:10 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on March 24, 2015, 11:30:13 AM
4260/4261 at Walsall

I did see 4260 in Sutton this morning. Glad to see the back of 4261, but we must be losing 4262 soon, and that is one of our best

Do we know how many Walsall will receive from us in total?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 24, 2015, 02:29:52 PM
Haven't heard anything about type training on them so I presime all the controls will be the same as the geminis?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 24, 2015, 04:14:07 PM
Quote from: John on March 24, 2015, 01:07:10 PM
I did see 4260 in Sutton this morning. Glad to see the back of 4261, but we must be losing 4262 soon, and that is one of our best

Do we know how many Walsall will receive from us in total?

4261 has made it onto peak time X51

11 in total for now 4258-4263 4300-4304
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on March 24, 2015, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on March 24, 2015, 04:14:07 PM
4261 has made it onto peak time X51

11 in total for now 4258-4263 4300-4304

4259 was stretching its legs to Cannock tonight, and another was on the 997 today (thinking about it, it could be the same one). Its strange seeing them on Walsall routes shame the Dundee ones are going, apart from 4301, they are nice buses, 4300 especially
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 24, 2015, 11:02:13 PM
Are these the things that look like Tridents but have the grills at the back?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 24, 2015, 11:37:20 PM
Yeah that's the ones
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: sarai949 on March 25, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
Anyone here knows what's happening with 34/38/39 national express they r amending route and timetable?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 25, 2015, 03:41:09 PM
Quote from: sarai949 on March 25, 2015, 02:01:20 PM
Anyone here knows what's happening with 34/38/39 national express they r amending route and timetable?

34, 34A, 38 and 39 - new service 34A has been introduced to operate every 20 minutes between Walsall and Rough Hay. Times have been revised on the 34, 38 and 39. Overall frequency between Walsall and Darlaston is increased to every 5 minutes.

See here (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3627.0) for more information on service changes on 26th April.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on March 25, 2015, 05:12:11 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 24, 2015, 11:02:13 PM
Are these the things that look like Tridents but have the grills at the back?

Nearly.

Tridents are the rrrrubbish things with not enough grilles that look like Sutton Lines' finest  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 25, 2015, 10:07:55 PM
Tridents are amazing!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lauren1993 on March 26, 2015, 02:07:42 PM
I must admit I do prefer the b7tl alx400 to the trident, as Coventry also operate both.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on March 26, 2015, 09:58:40 PM
It's been a while since more than 2 garages (excluding Coventry) operated ALX B7s, not since Lea Hall closed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 27, 2015, 01:37:29 PM
1438 has now been retired
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on March 27, 2015, 11:10:40 PM
Walsall must be quite the hectic place with the all buses from other garages coming for a paint job
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on March 28, 2015, 05:59:54 PM
1454 arrived at the bus station with 301 on the blinds, dropped off passengers and left NIS at 13:30
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on March 28, 2015, 06:08:36 PM
1777 was on the 4H
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 28, 2015, 06:54:12 PM
Quote from: N94 on March 28, 2015, 05:59:54 PM
1454 arrived at the bus station with 301 on the blinds, dropped off passengers and left NIS at 13:30

301 is reduced frequency to Every 10 Mins after 1330hrs on Saturday with 302 increased frequency to 10 Mins.

bus every 5 mins Walsall-Bloxiwch until 1800hrs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 28, 2015, 06:57:02 PM
4260 on the 6

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/16956353042/

1446 on the 10

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/16921197916/in/photostream/

27.03.2015


Shame that 41xx residents are leaving Walsall after being based from new 14 Years ago April-May 2001

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on March 28, 2015, 09:41:19 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on March 28, 2015, 06:57:02 PM
4260 on the 6

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/16956353042/

1446 on the 10

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/16921197916/in/photostream/

27.03.2015


Shame that 41xx residents are leaving Walsall after being based from new 14 Years ago April-May 2001

ALX B7TLs on WA routes just look weird. Are the 43** Tridents also departing to Wolverhampton? (Haven't seen it mentioned, can't be bothered to search)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 28, 2015, 09:43:14 PM
@Sh4318 possibly when WA's Platinums arrive in the summer to see off any remaining B6's or Spectra's that are left by then.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on March 28, 2015, 09:45:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 28, 2015, 09:43:14 PM
@Sh4318 possibly when WA's Platinums arrive in the summer to see off any remaining B6's or Spectra's that are left by then.

Cheers @Nathan. It will be interesting to learn the fate of the ex-Premier 997 buses and 4733-4737
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Chris2301 on March 28, 2015, 10:15:57 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on March 28, 2015, 09:45:36 PM
Cheers @Nathan. It will be interesting to learn the fate of the ex-Premier 997 buses and 4733-4737

BC will probably have them to see off more tridents to outer city garages. Isn't the emissions due to change soon for inner city birmingham?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on March 28, 2015, 10:42:23 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on March 28, 2015, 09:41:19 PM
ALX B7TLs on WA routes just look weird.

Well you say that...
Caught the last X51 home yesterday (19:30) and had my headphones on as normal so didn't hear a difference, and from glancing I assumed it was a trident ... only when I got off at Tower Hill I noticed the fleetnumber (4259 I think, can't remember now), that driver knew how to shift it cause I'm used to them struggling to pull off or climb hills on PB routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on March 29, 2015, 02:51:09 AM
Quote from: Chris2301 on March 28, 2015, 10:15:57 PM
BC will probably have them to see off more tridents to outer city garages. Isn't the emissions due to change soon for inner city birmingham?

What are the changes and whats effected ?!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 29, 2015, 12:15:09 PM
E200 0855 0856 0857 are branded £2.50 return 69 70 70A Walsall-beechdale
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 29, 2015, 12:36:30 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on March 29, 2015, 12:15:09 PM
E200 0855 0856 0857 are branded £2.50 return 69 70 70A Walsall-beechdale

Might be some eclipse done for the 10 as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on March 29, 2015, 06:05:45 PM
I'm hearing E40D 4871 has been involved in a RTC with a Diamond Dart near Moor Street.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on March 29, 2015, 06:45:43 PM
860 is on the 40E today. Is this the norm for a Sunday?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/16758464457
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on March 29, 2015, 06:48:05 PM
Quote from: John on March 29, 2015, 06:45:43 PM
860 is on the 40E today. Is this the norm for a Sunday?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/16758464457

Yes and 29 7 on a Sunday but might be different now with the branded E200 .
The 7 had 1890 on today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on March 31, 2015, 07:16:34 PM
From noteworthy working thread

Quote from: OH25 on March 31, 2015, 06:41:38 PM
4258 left Birmingham at 6:25 on the X51

Getting normal to see one on the peak X51s atm, had a few in the past week. Was on that one today meself actually without headphones just to hear the engine scream along the express bit of the A34. Still crap up hills though, pulling away from the Bartons Arms lights was painful.

EDIT
as if to emphasise that point... 4259 Was me bus into town this morning, 07:08 from Tower Hill
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 02, 2015, 09:17:15 AM
@nxwmbusfan1999 Tridents and either type of B7TL are regularly on the 93*s along the Enviro400s. The same with the X51/997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 02, 2015, 09:17:52 AM
4263 is having it's first day at WA on the 29.

Bit of a waste, was a lovely bus to drive last night, held 40mph all the Way up to Tower Hill last night, although it does have the usual ALX rattles everywhere
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 02, 2015, 09:22:11 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 02, 2015, 09:17:52 AM
4263 is having it's first day at WA on the 29.

Bit of a waste, was a lovely bus to drive last night, held 40mph all the Way up to Tower Hill last night, although it does have the usual ALX rattles everywhere

4263 was one of our good ones I remember, as well as 4262 and 4300. Has 4262 left PB yet Tony?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 02, 2015, 09:27:29 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 02, 2015, 09:17:52 AM
4263 is having it's first day at WA on the 29.

Bit of a waste, was a lovely bus to drive last night, held 40mph all the Way up to Tower Hill last night, although it does have the usual ALX rattles everywhere

Why is it a waste Tony? Atleast its on the road making money on a route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 02, 2015, 09:30:36 AM
4300 at Walsall on 10/A today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B.C Driver on April 02, 2015, 01:02:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 02, 2015, 09:17:52 AM
4263 is having it's first day at WA on the 29.

Bit of a waste, was a lovely bus to drive last night, held 40mph all the Way up to Tower Hill last night, although it does have the usual ALX rattles everywhere

I am presuming it was empty at the time as you was taking it to WA?
Most of them were very sluggish at pulling away when at BC, most drivers were glad to see the back of them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on April 02, 2015, 05:17:57 PM
Tony tracing a coach on 409 service 5ish
In Birmingham
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 02, 2015, 06:12:53 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on April 02, 2015, 05:17:57 PM
Tony tracing a coach on 409 service 5ish
In Birmingham

I was changing a coach on the 409.

Took 85 there to relieve 89 which was due an inspection. Now some on here would post that as a breakdown, but as far as I could tell there's nothing wrong with 89
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on April 02, 2015, 06:34:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 02, 2015, 06:12:53 PM
I was changing a coach on the 409.

Took 85 there to relieve 89 which was due an inspection. Now some on here would post that as a breakdown, but as far as I could tell there's nothing wrong with 89
1230 NX409 departure from Birmingham-VCS was
Hills (Wolverhampton) BK58URF

picture- https://www.flickr.com/photos/115199517@N06/16823012508/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on April 06, 2015, 02:06:18 PM
@OH25 '1784 on the 34
              just left Walsall'

Not noteworthy B7RLE's are the regular allocation for Sunday service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 06, 2015, 05:06:35 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 06, 2015, 02:06:18 PM
@OH25 '1784 on the 34
              just left Walsall'

Not noteworthy B7RLE's are the regular allocation for Sunday service.

Well I didnt know!

Couldve used Scanias as those have been seen during the week!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 07, 2015, 08:37:57 AM
Apparently the 311/313 is getting deckers next month.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 07, 2015, 08:39:34 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 07, 2015, 08:37:57 AM
Apparently the 311/313 is getting deckers next month.

Where are the omnilinks going to go on then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on April 07, 2015, 08:46:37 AM
Do we know if these are to be new Deckers or existing ones?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 07, 2015, 08:49:25 AM
1408 is having its final day on the 34 & 38.

It will do the 09:18 38 and then the 10:12 34 and stay alternating until finishing in Bradford Place at 18:33
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 07, 2015, 08:50:32 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 07, 2015, 08:39:34 AM
Where are the omnilinks going to go on then?

I'm not sure just heard it from another driver
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 07, 2015, 08:54:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 07, 2015, 08:50:16 AM
Seen the plans then have you Nathan? No didn't think so.

Didn't say i had ::) That was just my thoughts, hence the question mark. I've deleted the message as i don't want an argument

Anyway,

There is an ALX400 bodied B7TL on the 89 today. Passed Lichfield Rd in Wednesfield about 08:30 going towards Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on April 07, 2015, 09:12:20 AM
Quote from: Nathan on April 07, 2015, 08:54:45 AM
Didn't say i had ::) That was just my thoughts, hence the question mark. I've deleted the message as i don't want an argument

Anyway,

There is an ALX400 bodied B7TL on the 89 today. Passed Lichfield Rd in Wednesfield about 08:30 going towards Walsall.

4300 is the vehicle Nathan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 07, 2015, 09:18:46 AM
Quote from: Nathan on April 07, 2015, 08:54:45 AM
Didn't say i had ::) That was just my thoughts, hence the question mark. I've deleted the message as i don't want an argument

Anyway,

There is an ALX400 bodied B7TL on the 89 today. Passed Lichfield Rd in Wednesfield about 08:30 going towards Walsall.

There was no question mark when you first posted it, you added that as I replied
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 07, 2015, 09:52:51 AM
Apologies Tony, i edited my post realising that my post sounded as if i was posting it as fact.

Cheers Ashley for clarifying the Fleet no.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 07, 2015, 11:21:11 AM
Someone coughed up mucus and spat it on a seat at the back on 1439. Disgusting. I've notified the driver and don't know what will happen next, I just got off.

Update: 1439 arrived in WN and the seat is clean now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on April 07, 2015, 11:37:26 AM
1408 have ticket mechine problmes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 07, 2015, 01:42:17 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on April 07, 2015, 11:37:26 AM
1408 have ticket mechine problmes

Sounds like the least of its problems
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on April 08, 2015, 10:15:25 AM
Just sitting on the back seat of 4332. This bus is in serious need of a interior refurbishment. The exterior is pristine.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 08, 2015, 11:48:25 AM
Quote from: andyr on April 08, 2015, 10:15:25 AM
Just sitting on the back seat of 4332. This bus is in serious need of a interior refurbishment. The exterior is pristine.

4133 4308 4332 was repainted but interior not touched.

4308 looks okay old style seating but recently replaced
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on April 08, 2015, 07:12:36 PM
2nd trip of the day on WA 4125. What a credit to both garage and company, a stark contrast to 4332. Apart from the rattle from the top deck stair bannister you would never know this bus was 14 years old.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 08, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
@Tony, did 1408 get withdrawn as planned yesterday?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 08, 2015, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 08, 2015, 07:20:11 PM
@Tony, did 1408 get withdrawn as planned yesterday?

Yes it did
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on April 08, 2015, 09:21:44 PM
If these rumours for the 311/313 are true, which type of decker would it be allocated?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 09, 2015, 03:15:33 PM
@OH25 B7RLE's are the main allocation on the 40/41.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: D10 on April 09, 2015, 08:47:04 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 08, 2015, 09:21:44 PM
If these rumours for the 311/313 are true, which type of decker would it be allocated?

As the E400s and high back seated Geminis are used on the routes into Birmimgham, I would have thought that Tridents, B7/ALX400 or standard bus seated Geminis would be used.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on April 09, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Quote from: D10 on April 09, 2015, 08:47:04 PM
As the E400s and high back seated Geminis are used on the routes into Birmimgham, I would have thought that Tridents, B7/ALX400 or standard bus seated Geminis would be used.

Thinking about it, it would make sense as the B10's are going so the omnilinks move onto the 34/8/9 and deckers on the 311/3
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 09, 2015, 09:03:40 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 09, 2015, 08:52:11 PM
Thinking about it, it would make sense as the B10's are going so the omnilinks move onto the 34/8/9 and deckers on the 311/3

How long before the first deroofed decker?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on April 09, 2015, 09:43:37 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 09, 2015, 09:03:40 PM
How long before the first deroofed decker?

I'd give it a week after it becomes the main allocation (If it happens)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on April 09, 2015, 10:03:30 PM
Quote from: NXDom on April 09, 2015, 09:43:37 PM
I'd give it a week after it becomes the main allocation (If it happens)

Only if someone takes it under Bridgeman Str bridge.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 09, 2015, 10:48:38 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on April 09, 2015, 10:03:30 PM
Only if someone takes it under Bridgeman Str bridge.

And of course drivers are banned from taking buses under there, even single decks, except when operating the 38 service, so no 311 buses have been under there for a couple of years
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 09, 2015, 10:55:36 PM
Find it strange my regular routes, the Bloxwich routes & Dudley routes, after many years as single decks, are having regular double deck operation.

When was the last time Walsall depot regularly had double deckers on Bradford Place routes?

Must be sometime in the early 90's, might even be late 80's?

Might have been when they closed off The Bridge, which was officially on the old 301 Dudley route until then!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 09, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 09, 2015, 10:48:38 PM
And of course drivers are banned from taking buses under there, even single decks, except when operating the 38 service, so no 311 buses have been under there for a couple of years

Great anomaly there with the 38!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 09, 2015, 10:59:17 PM
By the way, are all Walsall drivers type trained on single & double deckers or are we likely to see different drivers from normal when the Dudley goes double deck?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 09, 2015, 11:00:04 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2015, 10:55:36 PM
Find it strange my regular routes, the Bloxwich routes & Dudley routes, after many years as single decks, are having regular double deck operation.

When was the last time Walsall depot regularly had double deckers on Bradford Place routes?

Must be sometime in the early 90's, might even be late 80's?

Might have been when they closed off The Bridge, which was officially on the old 301 Dudley route until then!

The 305 was regular Metro right up until they retired, There is a photo of an Enviro 400 on the 305 on the main site in 2007
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 09, 2015, 11:23:17 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2015, 10:59:17 PM
By the way, are all Walsall drivers type trained on single & double deckers or are we likely to see different drivers from normal when the Dudley goes double deck?

I started last month and have been type trained on everything bar an enviro 200 which was only because there was never any at the garage during the day!

As a guess I would say maybe b7 alx or something to do with the enviros been displaced when the mmc's show up
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mikestone on April 10, 2015, 10:32:58 AM
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2015, 10:56:51 PM
Great anomaly there with the 38!
;
I would have thought that would be a perfect excuse to reroute the 38 and avoid the odd interval between the Brown Lion and Darlaston?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 10, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
Looking at the new timetable for 34 38 39 it looks like the 38 and 34 stay on route all day enabling
34/39 to be B7 RLE operation.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on April 10, 2015, 12:11:47 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on April 10, 2015, 12:07:49 PM
Looking at the new timetable for 34 38 39 it looks like the 38 and 34 stay on route all day enabling
34/39 to be B7 RLE operation.


Also the Sunday daytime frequency has been doubled (to every 15 minutes) between Darlaston and Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 10, 2015, 01:10:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 09, 2015, 11:00:04 PM
The 305 was regular Metro right up until they retired, There is a photo of an Enviro 400 on the 305 on the main site in 2007

Hmm late as that!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on April 11, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
Got 1784 on the 311 from Dudley to Walsall this afternoon. It went down Alexandra Road instead of Powis Avenue... is there a diversion I didn't know about?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 979 on April 11, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on April 11, 2015, 04:51:14 PM
Got 1784 on the 311 from Dudley to Walsall this afternoon. It went down Alexandra Road instead of Powis Avenue... is there a diversion I didn't know about?
Powis Avenue is closed until 20th April.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on April 11, 2015, 05:02:50 PM
Quote from: 979 on April 11, 2015, 04:56:28 PM
Powis Avenue is closed until 20th April.

Thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Chris2301 on April 11, 2015, 08:01:43 PM
Do any of the B10s run on a sunday?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on April 11, 2015, 08:06:53 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on April 11, 2015, 08:01:43 PM
Do any of the B10s run on a sunday?
No
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 11, 2015, 08:20:43 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on April 11, 2015, 08:01:43 PM
Do any of the B10s run on a sunday?

Very rarely. Happened twice to my knowledge. Once on the 89 and the other was not long ago as a swap for a B7RLE on the 39.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 13, 2015, 04:42:37 PM
@NXWM Spectra in reference to 1891 on the 39, Omnilinks are commonplace (Even more with the withdrawals of some B10L's) on Darlaston Corridor.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 13, 2015, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 13, 2015, 04:42:37 PM
@NXWM Spectra in reference to 1891 on the 39, Omnilinks are commonplace (Even more with the withdrawals of some B10L's) on Darlaston Corridor.

Yes I caught one when I went to wolves the other day, it was 1894
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 13, 2015, 06:44:46 PM
What should be the future allocation at Walsall once the next lot of changes happen?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on April 13, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 13, 2015, 06:44:46 PM
What should be the future allocation at Walsall once the next lot of changes happen?



Far too much plastic tat with Scania badges on, some jazzed up deckers and some better old deckers.

Edit

It was an unbalanced opinion answer to the original question ruined by autocorrect and also mangled my own what could have been joke.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on April 13, 2015, 09:02:53 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on April 13, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
Far too much plastic tat with Scania badges on, dome jazzed up deckers and some better old deckers

Dome jazzed up! Like a bus roof vajazzle?

Every day a revelation on here.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 13, 2015, 09:14:07 PM
So the B7Lres are going then?

Prefer them to the Scanias personally.

(Mind you at least deckers are coming back to the Dudley route!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on April 13, 2015, 09:22:24 PM
In response to Westy's question  :)

@Westy

I expect the Scanias at AG will likely go to WA, replacing the B10Ls and Volvo B7RLEs. There are currently 34 Scanias at AG.

Now there are 11 B10Ls hanging in there I think at WA currently.
38 B7RLEs and 33 Scanias.

If the 311/313 goes double deck as I saw rumoured on here (?) that would release 12 buses. Conveniently just one or two off for likely requirement for the  34/34A/38/39.

With the arrival of 34 Scanias that would give that extra number to easily replace the B10Ls. That would also replace a large majority of the B7RLEs at WA, with the remaining few replaced by a few more incoming Volvo ALX 400s from PB.

I expect if the 311/313 did go DD, it would be after the Platinums arrive, releasing E400s and Geminis. Some of those no doubt could be used on it, with the rest going to BC perhaps to replace some Tridents on the 97 or Pershore/Bristol Roads. I could see YW get a few to replace its 13 Presidents.

The other thing is that I can see more ALX400s going to WA, replacing Tridents which will move to WN, to see off the Spectras. That would standardise on Volvo B7s at WA, and Tridents only at WN. There are 24 Tridents at WA currently, and PB have 36 left, including 4304.

Those 24 Tridents could see off the Spectras, as well as a B6 or two, at WN. The remaining 12 Volvo B7s at PB could stay there, or move to WB, to replace the 12-14 Mercs left there. That would solve the Merc problem at WB, increase capacity there and allow the Volvo ALX 400s to just be allocated to two garages again, WA and WB.

My thoughts on it - just predictions at the minute but would seem logical.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on April 13, 2015, 09:58:38 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 13, 2015, 09:02:53 PM
Dome jazzed up! Like a bus roof vajazzle?

Every day a revelation on here.

My phones autocorrect is terrible. The jazzed up deckers are the Platinum's but ill edit the original.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on April 17, 2015, 04:50:38 PM
1787 is on WA69? Thought this was now in Dundee?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kiewii on April 17, 2015, 05:12:05 PM
Quote from: Alex on April 17, 2015, 04:50:38 PM
1787 is on WA69? Thought this was now in Dundee?

Nope, I reported that only 1687 was in Dundee on Wednesday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 17, 2015, 05:17:05 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on April 17, 2015, 05:12:05 PM
Nope, I reported that only 1687 was in Dundee on Wednesday

Have to admit that i am sure i saw that 1787 had been transferred to Dundee, seems somebody got the number wrong!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 17, 2015, 05:44:10 PM
1453 having day out
AM peak 77
PM Peak 10/A

4294 at Walsall on 934/5 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 17, 2015, 07:09:01 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on April 17, 2015, 05:12:05 PM
Nope, I reported that only 1687 was in Dundee on Wednesday

Tony stated that although 1787 may have not physically reached Dundee, it is now of WA's books:

http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1377.msg140444#msg140444
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lauren1993 on April 19, 2015, 05:07:30 AM
I have heard from a number of people that 4763-4776 are being transferred to Coventry.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on April 19, 2015, 07:38:07 AM
If they did then it would be better from them going to Dundee as I wouldn't get to see them 😀
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on April 19, 2015, 06:21:14 PM
Quote from: lauren1993 on April 19, 2015, 05:07:30 AM
I have heard from a number of people that 4763-4776 are being transferred to Coventry.
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on April 19, 2015, 07:38:07 AM
If they did then it would be better from them going to Dundee as I wouldn't get to see them 😀

They'd be more likely to go to Dundee than they would to go to Coventry ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on April 19, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
They could go to Coventry for the 11 and 12
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lauren1993 on April 20, 2015, 05:10:46 PM
Yes, I've heard that they are going to be on the 11/12 as well.
I'm not sure but the drivers seem certain they are coming.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 20, 2015, 05:17:08 PM
Shame that coventry get leather seated envirosn
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on April 20, 2015, 05:18:50 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 20, 2015, 05:17:08 PM
Shame that coventry get leather seated envirosn

Seeing as 4776 had its seats replaced into normal trim when it was painted, I doubt will they remain leather whatever happens to them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on April 20, 2015, 06:54:27 PM
Well, I guess that would be a good place for them as they go via Warwick uni and the 11 goes into stagecoach' terf. Plus I could go to Leamington via the 900 and 11.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on April 20, 2015, 07:05:48 PM
Oh and I also think 4680 - 4686, the high seated gemini's should go to AG for the 966 as it goes to the airport and deserves some good buses and would withdraw some presidents
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 20, 2015, 07:13:00 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on April 20, 2015, 07:05:48 PM
Oh and I also think 4680 - 4686, the high seated gemini's should go to AG for the 966 as it goes to the airport and deserves some good buses and would withdraw some presidents

I was just about to ask what bus is used on the 966
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on April 20, 2015, 07:15:30 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 20, 2015, 07:13:00 PM
I was just about to ask what bus is used on the 966

Presidents and Geminis normally (single decks on Sunday).

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on April 20, 2015, 09:42:21 PM
|s it right to say all buses in the fleet have visited Walsall at 1 point
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on April 20, 2015, 09:43:18 PM
Well most have been there when they have been on delivery, or going for a repaint.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 20, 2015, 09:46:02 PM
Quote from: BusFan on April 20, 2015, 09:42:21 PM
|s it right to say all buses in the fleet have visited Walsall at 1 point

No, none of 6123-35 have for a start, 4895-913 are more
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on April 20, 2015, 11:07:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 20, 2015, 09:46:02 PM
No, none of 6123-35 have for a start, 4895-913 are more

My bad, I just stated because I remember see photos of PE's MMCs there plus being the paint shop, I thought they've all visited it with the change of liveries.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on April 20, 2015, 11:31:32 PM
Although they've all been withdrawn now, there was a small handful of Mercs that may not have visited WA due to never having a repaint since new.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 21, 2015, 07:51:17 AM
Do the DP seated Geminis have a lower seating capacity than the ordinary ones. I find the DP ones have loads of legroom and find them really comfy buses to travel on but on the last X51 out of cannock this morning theres a bus seated example on and I couldn't find a seat with enough legroom apart from the back seat downstairs!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on April 21, 2015, 01:43:22 PM
I know there's less buggy zone space on DP genini and leather seated enviro
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on April 21, 2015, 02:25:10 PM
Looking at Tonys fleetlist the DP Geminis are CH42/29F compared to H43/29F on standard Geminis.
Where is the missing seat upstairs? Is it four on the backseat compared to five?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on April 21, 2015, 02:59:59 PM
Quote from: Gareth on April 21, 2015, 02:25:10 PM
Looking at Tonys fleetlist the DP Geminis are CH42/29F compared to H43/29F on standard Geminis.
Where is the missing seat upstairs? Is it four on the backseat compared to five?

Yeah, only four along the back. The rest of the seats upstairs are spaced slightly further apart as well so the aisle is slightly narrower.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 21, 2015, 07:24:28 PM
Are the ALX B7TLs a permanent transfer to Walsall or just passing through?  The one that was on the (running very late) 5.05pm X51 to Cannock tonight was a bit of a mess, an un refurbished example with almost every window etched upstairs lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on April 21, 2015, 07:29:21 PM
Quote from: Bob on April 21, 2015, 07:24:28 PM
Are the ALX B7TLs a permanent transfer to Walsall or just passing through?  The one that was on the (running very late) 5.05pm X51 to Cannock tonight was a bit of a mess, an un refurbished example with almost every window etched upstairs lol

Nope, they're permanent
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on April 21, 2015, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 21, 2015, 07:29:21 PM
Nope, they're permanent

I also had my first ride on a WA ALX400 B7TL today, but found that mine (4298) was in a great condition inside! 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 21, 2015, 08:27:43 PM
I saw another one heading into brum on an inbound X51, looked good and was a refurbished example
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 21, 2015, 10:43:26 PM
Don't think I've been on one yet, as I seem to be permantly on B7LRE & Scanias!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on April 27, 2015, 12:54:45 PM
@Other Walsall Tony No, B10L's can just display 40E Willenhall, as Willenhall is on the blind for the 41  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on April 27, 2015, 12:55:40 PM
Seeing as my post on this got deleted (even though it was a genuine question!!) surely B10s have Darlaston on the rollers as I know WA used to have the 337 service which terminated there.

Couldn't the 34A just display Darlaston on Rough Hay bound journeys and then just display Walsall via Darlaston on Walsall bound trips?

The reason I suggest this is because it has been done before with routes and technically Rough Hay is part of Darlaston is it not?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 27, 2015, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 27, 2015, 12:55:40 PM
Seeing as my post on this got deleted (even though it was a genuine question!!) surely B10s have Darlaston on the rollers as I know WA used to have the 337 service which terminated there.

Couldn't the 34A just display Darlaston on Rough Hay bound journeys and then just display Walsall via Darlaston on Walsall bound trips?

The reason I suggest this is because it has been done before with routes and technically Rough Hay is part of Darlaston is it not?

But it isn't going to encourage the residents of Rough hay to get on the bus if they think it is terminating by the Asda.

As there are now nowhere near enough B10Ls available for the 34/38/39 and are going to be replaced on there by Scanias at some point this year anyway, it makes more sense to do it now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on April 27, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 27, 2015, 01:00:42 PM
But it isn't going to encourage the residents of Rough hay to get on the bus if they think it is terminating by the Asda.

As there are now nowhere near enough B10Ls available for the 34/38/39 and are going to be replaced on there by Scanias at some point this year anyway, it makes more sense to do it now

Theoretically though the 34A terminates (according to Centro) at the stop  after asda anyway so Darlaston would be an appropriate destination.

Furthermore the lack of one type for all diagrams hasn't stopped NXWM before running with one type on its own. Look at the 311/313, 45 or even 301!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 27, 2015, 01:23:22 PM
Is the 311/3 now decker operated?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 27, 2015, 01:27:21 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 27, 2015, 01:23:22 PM
Is the 311/3 now decker operated?

No, virtually all B7RLEs this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 27, 2015, 01:30:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 27, 2015, 01:27:21 PM
No, virtually all B7RLEs this morning

Thanks @Tony didn't think they would make it decker operated, and the B7rles are so much nicer than the Scanias.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 27, 2015, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 27, 2015, 01:30:10 PM
Thanks @Tony didn't think they would make it decker operated, and the B7rles are so much nicer than the Scanias.

The Walsall fleet isn't in its final state yet with 40 brand new buses still to arrive along with lots more transfers in and out, so some more routes will need different vehicle types in the coming months
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 27, 2015, 05:32:44 PM
So to find a b10 I now need to go on the 40/41?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 28, 2015, 07:49:16 AM
What are the chances of getting leather seated e400 on x51 in May time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 28, 2015, 07:56:41 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 28, 2015, 07:49:16 AM
What are the chances of getting leather seated e400 on x51 in May time

Until the Platinum buses arrive (which they are sometime in May) quite good chances
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 28, 2015, 09:18:26 AM
Quote from: John on April 28, 2015, 07:56:41 AM
Until the Platinum buses arrive (which they are sometime in May) quite good chances

You certainly won't see a Platinum at Walsall in May. So yes leather E400s Will still be around
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 28, 2015, 07:59:51 PM
Was there any b10s on 34/38/39 today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 28, 2015, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 28, 2015, 07:59:51 PM
Was there any b10s on 34/38/39 today?

Yes on the 39. Forgot the fleet number but saw one pull into Wolverhampton this afternoon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on April 28, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 28, 2015, 08:01:08 PM
Yes on the 39. Forgot the fleet number but saw one pulln into Wolverhampton this afternoon.

Would make sense, as there were two OmniLinks on the 40/41, 1893 and 1895
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 28, 2015, 08:08:29 PM
Quote from: Alex on April 28, 2015, 08:03:57 PM
Would make sense, as there were two OmniLinks on the 40/41, 1893 and 1895

Not necessarily, there were no Omnilinks on the 40/1 yesterday but there was still a B10L on the 39

4299,4332 and 4769 all on the 69 today. All were on yesterday.

4763,4765 and 4771 all noted on the 89 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 28, 2015, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 28, 2015, 07:59:51 PM
Was there any b10s on 34/38/39 today?

1407 and 1446 served WA 39 if my memory serves me correctly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 28, 2015, 08:34:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 28, 2015, 09:18:26 AM
You certainly won't see a Platinum at Walsall in May. So yes leather E400s Will still be around

Sorry, Its Central in May isn't it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2015, 07:05:24 PM
Which b10s are voith? Also which ones are thee ones that like Rev a bit whilst your stationary or make the noise whilst stationary
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on April 29, 2015, 07:07:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2015, 07:05:24 PM
Which b10s are voith? Also which ones are thee ones that like Rev a bit whilst your stationary or make the noise whilst stationary

There all voith except for 1431-1440, or is it 1430-1439? One of them lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 29, 2015, 07:09:01 PM
Quote from: John on April 28, 2015, 08:34:17 PM
Sorry, Its Central in May isn't it?

Yeah central may, then ours are due throughout june
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 29, 2015, 07:10:06 PM
For certain people who keep asking about B10's on the 39:

Yes there was one again today and there are bound to be a couple on there most days as a few boards do not work 34A's
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2015, 07:15:19 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 29, 2015, 07:10:06 PM
For certain people who keep asking about B10's on the 39:

Yes there was one again today and there are bound to be a couple on there most days as a few boards do not work 34A's

Do you know what boards/timings they operate then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 07:18:47 PM
Surely a B10L could operate the 34A, just wind the blinds to blank.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on April 29, 2015, 07:23:33 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2015, 07:05:24 PM
Which b10s are voith? Also which ones are thee ones that like Rev a bit whilst your stationary or make the noise whilst stationary

Voith -1407, 1419, 1421, 1446, 1447, 1453, 1475
ZF - 1431, 1436, 1440

Think that list is correct
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 29, 2015, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 07:18:47 PM
Surely a B10L could operate the 34A, just wind the blinds to blank.

If Vosa are monitoring and a vehicle is showing a blank destination, that Journey can be counted as failed to operate! NX now do as much as possible to avoid blank destinations including buses loaned for just a couple of hours are reprogrammed. Even the 5 buses on hire to First Rail Support last Saturday in Milton Keynes had the correct destinations programmed in!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 29, 2015, 07:26:18 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 07:18:47 PM
Surely a B10L could operate the 34A, just wind the blinds to blank.

Surely thats going back to the 'bad old days' ?

You might as well shove a sign in the window saying Rough Hay!

Remember them putting Cheslyn Hay in a similar position when there was short journeys on the Cannock route a few years ago!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 29, 2015, 07:27:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2015, 07:24:26 PM
If Vosa are monitoring and a vehicle is showing a blank destination, that Journey can be counted as failed to operate! NX now do as much as possible to avoid blank destinations including buses loaned for just a couple of hours are reprogrammed. Even the 5 buses on hire to First Rail Support last Saturday in Milton Keynes had the correct destinations programmed in!

@Tony Thanks for explaining that!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 30, 2015, 06:43:44 PM
Do x51 and 997 interwork still?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 30, 2015, 06:50:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 30, 2015, 06:43:44 PM
Do x51 and 997 interwork still?

Yes, Mon-Sat daytime.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 30, 2015, 06:51:13 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 30, 2015, 06:43:44 PM
Do x51 and 997 interwork still?

Yes, and sometimes a 935 will come back as an x51 on the evening
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 30, 2015, 06:54:36 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 30, 2015, 06:51:13 PM
Yes, and sometimes a 935 will come back as an x51 on the evening

At least the issue about branded buses will longer be an issue with the Platinums. I presume late night 934/5 will come off the 51 as opposed to the other way round?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 30, 2015, 06:57:58 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 30, 2015, 06:50:46 PM
Yes, Mon-Sat daytime.

So the chances of getting leather seat e400 on either off these is extremely high?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 30, 2015, 06:59:59 PM
To be honest the leather enviros seem random now the 997 has been getting a lot of anything (Gemini's b7 alx, tridents and enviro!)

I know the 935a's change to a  normal 51 on the night and vice versa
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on April 30, 2015, 07:03:58 PM
I seen a WA Enviro that had these weird black fans on the rear just above the destination number. What is this ?!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 30, 2015, 07:05:51 PM
Quote from: BusFan on April 30, 2015, 07:03:58 PM
I seen a WA Enviro that had these weird black fans on the rear just above the destination number. What is this ?!

those are the leather enviros :)something to do aith "airchill" but I think they've all been disconnected
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on April 30, 2015, 07:21:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 30, 2015, 06:57:58 PM
So the chances of getting leather seat e400 on either off these is extremely high?

I dunno, recently been seeing just as many on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 01, 2015, 07:07:28 PM
What's pvr of 40/41? Has it been solid b10 the last few days?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on May 01, 2015, 07:09:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 01, 2015, 07:07:28 PM
What's pvr of 40/41? Has it been solid b10 the last few days?

@Trident 4194 PVR is 7, and, no, the 40/41 has one board which is allocated a decker as it does late night 40E's, and there are normally 1-2 OmniLinks on there

@Matt No, OmniLinks are not normal, but i think it may have came off the 40/41, as 1 late night board does come off and go onto the 89
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 01, 2015, 07:13:54 PM
Quote from: Alex on May 01, 2015, 07:09:46 PM
@Trident 4194 PVR is 7, and, no, the 40/41 has one board which is allocated a decker as it does late night 40E's, and there are normally 1-2 OmniLinks on there

@Matt No, OmniLinks are not normal, but i think it may have came off the 40/41, as 1 late night board does come off and go onto the 89

Don't suppose you know the board which is operated by a decker? Thankyou
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 01, 2015, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: Alex on May 01, 2015, 07:09:46 PM
@Trident 4194 PVR is 7, and, no, the 40/41 has one board which is allocated a decker as it does late night 40E's, and there are normally 1-2 OmniLinks on there

@Matt No, OmniLinks are not normal, but i think it may have came off the 40/41, as 1 late night board does come off and go onto the 89

Do you know what board the decker is on?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on May 01, 2015, 07:17:01 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 01, 2015, 07:14:38 PM
Do you know what board the decker is on?

Not certain, but might be Board 41/07, could be wrong, though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on May 01, 2015, 07:53:54 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 01, 2015, 07:15:13 PM
Omnilinks normal on the 89? There was one on there the night before last

Noteworthy. If it's not a decker of some sorts then its a B7RLE
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 01, 2015, 08:54:55 PM
I'm told 1436 will do the 89 ex Walsall at 21:05.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 02, 2015, 10:00:28 AM
A long row of buses on Bloxwich Rd due to a smash near Walsall Garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 03, 2015, 10:19:53 PM
Sikh driver doing the Bloxwich corridor tonight has the patience of a saint.

Despite local louts giving him some lip including a bit of racism, he kept his cool.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on May 05, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
Traveled on two Wa based buses today on the 89..recently transferred 4258 and always Wa based 4132. Both are a credit to the garage and the company as were there drivers. Both in full uniform, shirt and tie and both greeted every passenger and aknowledged the thank you when  I left the bus. The way public transport should be.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 05, 2015, 04:33:17 PM
Quote from: andyr on May 05, 2015, 04:06:55 PM
Traveled on two Wa based buses today on the 89..recently transferred 4258 and always Wa based 4132. Both are a credit to the garage and the company as were there drivers. Both in full uniform, shirt and tie and both greeted every passenger and aknowledged the thank you when  I left the bus. The way public transport should be.

I always reply to customers if they say good morning or thanks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 05, 2015, 04:41:08 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 05, 2015, 04:33:17 PM
I always reply to customers if they say good morning or thanks.

Shame pensnett drivers don't!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2015, 05:30:50 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 05, 2015, 04:41:08 PM
Shame pensnett drivers don't!

Shame, i have always found most PE drivers most courteous!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 05, 2015, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2015, 05:30:50 PM
Shame, i have always found most PE drivers most courteous!!

Maybe I'm just unlucky then, I hardly ever get a hello or THankyou when I'm on board NX vehicles in general. Although I know West Bromwich drivers that have said thankyou to me. That's where diamond win hands down for me...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: danny on May 05, 2015, 05:42:57 PM
I find PE drivers too be the friendliest of all the garages :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on May 05, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
1446 on WA34A today is this rare
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on May 05, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
1446 on WA34A today is this rare

Would have thought so, B10ls aren't used on that service because they don't have the correct destination on the blind.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 05, 2015, 06:08:27 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
Would have thought us, B10ls aren't used on that service because they don't have the correct destination on the blind.

Any boards on Darlaston Corridor that work 34A's should be buses that do not have roller blinds. 1446 apparently showed 'Darlaston' which, I guess is better than a blank display but still not the correct one.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Chris2301 on May 05, 2015, 08:02:25 PM
Quick question, the pic of 1771 top photo says 908 Wolverhampton via Wednesfield. Did that become the 89?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on May 05, 2015, 08:12:29 PM
Quote from: Chris2301 on May 05, 2015, 08:02:25 PM
Quick question, the pic of 1771 top photo says 908 Wolverhampton via Wednesfield. Did that become the 89?

Yup :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 05, 2015, 08:16:49 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2015, 05:59:16 PM
Would have thought so, B10ls aren't used on that service because they don't have the correct destination on the blind.

Why is this an issue for 3 years B10Ls was being used on 34 to Stowlan with the majority displaying
Bilston via darlaston. 1446 is better than nothing allocated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 05, 2015, 08:24:57 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 05, 2015, 08:16:49 PM
Why is this an issue for 3 years B10Ls was being used on 34 to Stowlan with the majority displaying
Bilston via darlaston. 1446 is better than nothing allocated

It is just poor allocation. 5 B10Ls have been deliberately moved off that corridor onto the 40/41 to make it easy for all 34A boards to be Scania operated, and there is no reason to allocate B10Ls onto those boards from garage. Obviously change buses are slightly different.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 05, 2015, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2015, 08:24:57 PM
It is just poor allocation. 5 B10Ls have been deliberately moved off that corridor onto the 40/41 to make it easy for all 34A boards to be Scania operated, and there is no reason to allocate B10Ls onto those boards from garage. Obviously change buses are slightly different.

Since when was Walsall so fussy! the other week I was given 4863 on streetlys and seen a streetly enviro on the 51!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 05, 2015, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 05, 2015, 08:27:09 PM
Since when was Walsall so fussy! the other week I was given 4863 on streetlys and seen a streetly enviro on the 51!!

The MD has already visited Walsall once about vehicle allocations. YW get an email now if a trident gets seen on the 50!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on May 05, 2015, 08:39:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2015, 08:35:13 PM
The MD has already visited Walsall once about vehicle allocations. YW get an email now if a trident gets seen on the 50!

@Tony Does the same apply if a Trident goes near the PE9?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 06, 2015, 03:47:21 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 05, 2015, 08:35:13 PM
The MD has already visited Walsall once about vehicle allocations. YW get an email now if a trident gets seen on the 50!

They had 934 branded bus on 997 and another on the 7 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on May 06, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
Does anyone know what the diversion for the 41 (Same for 28) is from 11th May, as Willenhall, Union St is closed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 07, 2015, 07:19:28 PM
Theres a 313E Walsall to Wednesbury around 910am I noticed.

After doing that journey, where does it go onto?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 08, 2015, 10:15:47 AM
WB based Gemini 4716 on WA89. Saw it on Lichfield Rd (A4124) in Wednesfield this morning about 09:50 going towards Wolverhampton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 08, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Probably doing school service 703 New Invention-St Thomas school
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 08, 2015, 11:33:57 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 08, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Probably doing school service 703 New Invention-St Thomas school

Seen 4716 on 8 1135 Walsall must be a loan

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 08, 2015, 11:40:13 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 08, 2015, 10:33:02 AM
Probably doing school service 703 New Invention-St Thomas school

I did say on the 89
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on May 08, 2015, 06:01:55 PM
Walsall have changed their 'Not In Service' displays on Dot Matrix displays, with NIS in bold on the top line and www.nxbus.com underneath
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 08, 2015, 06:24:53 PM
Quote from: John on May 08, 2015, 06:01:55 PM
Walsall have changed their 'Not In Service' displays on Dot Matrix displays, with NIS in bold on the top line and www.nxbus.com underneath

I noticed a lot of the displays have the scrolling via points now also on the Hanover screen in the cab some say not in service v2 and others have not in service (hireourbus.co.uk)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on May 08, 2015, 07:02:03 PM
To which the hireourbus website redirects to http://nxbus.co.uk/error.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on May 08, 2015, 07:54:38 PM
Quote from: John on May 08, 2015, 06:01:55 PM
Walsall have changed their 'Not In Service' displays on Dot Matrix displays, with NIS in bold on the top line and www.nxbus.com underneath

I saw one of AG's flip-dot examples the other evening, shows "Not In Service" on the top line, and the 'hire this bus' link on the lower line.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 09, 2015, 06:19:25 PM
@Rhys S b7s on 4/4H/4M are not that unusual usually at least one on there per day now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on May 09, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 09, 2015, 06:19:25 PM
@Rhys S b7s on 4/4H/4M are not that unusual usually at least one on there per day now
Ok but Omnilinks are the usual Allocation
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 09, 2015, 06:22:04 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on May 09, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
Ok but Omnilinks are the usual Allocation

Yes but you can also expect to find at least 1 b7 each day on there, I got one on there last Saturday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 09, 2015, 07:16:11 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on May 09, 2015, 06:20:21 PM
Ok but Omnilinks are the usual Allocation

Running board 4-01 is actually marked to be a B7 on the marking up sheet, so definately normal allocation
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on May 09, 2015, 07:32:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2015, 07:16:11 PM
Running board 4-01 is actually marked to be a B7 on the marking up sheet, so definately normal allocation
Is that the board that is due at Walsall for 1723
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 10, 2015, 12:12:54 PM
Can anyone find a picture of the 47** leather seat interiors please?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on May 10, 2015, 12:29:57 PM
It's not the best photo, but here is mine of 4775 from late 2010. I'm not sure how to embed a photo, so here is a Flickr link.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/discogareth/5308352340/in/set-72157625444684193
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 12:31:07 PM
4763-4767 have different styles to the 997 ones
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 12:32:17 PM
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/42207416@N07/17279163345/

That's 4763-4767 style
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 10, 2015, 12:41:30 PM
Which bus series tend to be on 997?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on May 10, 2015, 12:48:01 PM
Does anyone know the PVR of the 51?
Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on May 10, 2015, 01:38:12 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 10, 2015, 12:41:30 PM
Which bus series tend to be on 997?

Can be 41xx/43xx Tridents, 42xx 45xx 46xx B7TL's, 47xx 48xx E400's
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sayeed on May 10, 2015, 02:25:11 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on May 10, 2015, 12:48:01 PM
Does anyone know the PVR of the 51?
No offence but it seems you forgot what you have been told before

Winston's quote -
If you're that concerned with route Pvrs, download a timetable & work it out for yourself as others have to!!!

and

Quote from: Tony on February 12, 2015, 09:51:47 PM
However many times you ask these questions you will not get an answer from an NX employee.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 03:16:09 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 10, 2015, 12:41:30 PM
Which bus series tend to be on 997?

Originally it was 4768-4776 which were 997 branded but now it gets any walsall decker.

4763-4767 were new to Pb for the 993
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 10, 2015, 06:39:25 PM
The 997 is booked to use High back seat vechiles 46xx Gemini
47xx leather seated enviro. Other buses are used as fill ins.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 06:50:45 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 10, 2015, 06:39:25 PM
The 997 is booked to use High back seat vechiles 46xx Gemini
47xx leather seated enviro. Other buses are used as fill ins.

The last month it keeps getting b7 alx' and the leather enviros seem to be all over the place. 4771 was on 29 other day
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 10, 2015, 07:21:59 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 06:50:45 PM
The last month it keeps getting b7 alx' and the leather enviros seem to be all over the place. 4771 was on 29 other day

So there is a decreasing chance of getting a leather seated one?
Which ones are more comfortable, the ones with beige seats and blue poles or black seats and red poles?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 07:30:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 10, 2015, 07:21:59 PM
So there is a decreasing chance of getting a leather seated one?
Which ones are more comfortable, the ones with beige seats and blue poles or black seats and red poles?

I don't really think there's a difference in comfort but the 997 style seem to rattle more? Maybe something with how the bars are mounted.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on May 10, 2015, 08:49:42 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 07:30:06 PM
I don't really think there's a difference in comfort but the 997 style seem to rattle more? Maybe something with how the bars are mounted.

Some of them, 4770 - 72 in particular rattle from front to back, top to bottom. I prefer 4763-68 but all of them bar 4776 really need a good clean up, more vehicles which adorn vandalism from years ago plus standard wear and tear.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 10, 2015, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 10, 2015, 08:49:42 PM
Some of them, 4770 - 72 in particular rattle from front to back, top to bottom. I prefer 4763-68 but all of them bar 4776 really need a good clean up, more vehicles which adorn vandalism from years ago plus standard wear and tear.

4776 needs cleaning too. Downstairs at the back has some terrible window etching.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 09:16:44 PM
They all have odd seats where leather has been replaced with moquette particularly the hard seats over wheel arches and at back downstairs.

They are still nice and I do often get comments from happy passengers when I drive them saying how "posh" they are!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 10, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 09:16:44 PM
They all have odd seats where leather has been replaced with moquette particularly the hard seats over wheel arches and at back downstairs.

They are still nice and I do often get comments from happy passengers when I drive them saying how "posh" they are!

The second one will be going in for paint/retrim very soon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 10, 2015, 09:24:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2015, 09:18:37 PM
The second one will be going in for paint/retrim very soon

It's a shame to lose the leather. Would be nice if they recovered the best seats from the lot and used them to keep one or two fully leather but I know it would be a nightmare to do!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 11, 2015, 04:00:56 AM
Quote from: Nathan on May 10, 2015, 08:53:34 PM
4776 needs cleaning too. Downstairs at the back has some terrible window etching.

4776/4737 spend majority of time doing college contract rather than
Service work.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 11, 2015, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on May 05, 2015, 08:16:49 PM
Why is this an issue for 3 years B10Ls was being used on 34 to Stowlan with the majority displaying
Bilston via darlaston. 1446 is better than nothing allocated

Just spotted 1475 displaying 34a Darlaston in town.

Does that settle the argument?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Chris2301 on May 11, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
Is the 311/313 still going to double deck operation in the foreseeable future?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on May 12, 2015, 02:41:41 AM
@Liam no decker on the 69 is noteworthy its booked.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: LiamthebusGuy on May 12, 2015, 07:18:45 AM
Quote from: jack4325 on May 12, 2015, 02:41:41 AM
@Liam no decker on the 69 is noteworthy its booked.

@jack4325 Nathan told me it was noteworthy...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 12, 2015, 08:31:33 AM
Quote from: jack4325 on May 12, 2015, 02:41:41 AM
@Liam no decker on the 69 is noteworthy its booked.

Tridents are booked. Gemini and ALX400's also appear. E400'snot so much now the allocation has set in. Plus the fact its 4776 which spend most of the week on the College Contract or on the Brum run
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 12, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2015, 08:31:33 AM
Tridents are booked. Gemini and ALX400's also appear. E400'snot so much now the allocation has set in. Plus the fact its 4776 which spend most of the week on the College Contract or on the Brum run

Nothing is booked 'Trident' at Walsall, the allocation sheet gives three types of decker
ALX400/Bus Gemini
High back seat (4680-6/4763-76)
E400
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on May 12, 2015, 10:54:16 AM
2 X51 4772 & 4767 are running more a less together
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:12:21 PM
I think the b10s on the 40/41 aren't the actual allocation, as quite a few on 301/302 lately
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:27:46 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
They are! There are more B10's left than the PVR of the 40/41 so spares are used on other routes.

Thank you for clearing that up
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 12, 2015, 06:30:42 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2015, 06:15:19 PM
They are! There are more B10's left than the PVR of the 40/41 so spares are used on other routes.

They are not allocated to the 40/41!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 12, 2015, 06:30:42 PM
They are not allocated to the 40/41!

Where are they allocated to then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 12, 2015, 06:32:41 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:31:53 PM
Where are they allocated to then?

They are looking for homes for them!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:34:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 12, 2015, 06:32:41 PM
They are looking for homes for them!

Oh ok, just put them back on the darlaston corridor if I was them!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 12, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 12, 2015, 06:30:42 PM
They are not allocated to the 40/41!

So is it deckers from now on then? I wasn't aware they took the B10's off. I do apologise @Tony ::)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 12, 2015, 06:39:00 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 12, 2015, 06:35:56 PM
So is it deckers from now on then? B10's didn't last long on there then!

Was all deckers yesterday and today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:41:18 PM
What other routes could they suit? I doubt they would want to keep them on 301/302 with diamond in competition.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on May 12, 2015, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:41:18 PM
What other routes could they suit? I doubt they would want to keep them on 301/302 with diamond in competition.

I would have thought that withdrawing them was an option!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:48:34 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 12, 2015, 06:45:00 PM
I would have thought that withdrawing them was an option!

There not ready for withdrawal yet. Still perfectly ok
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 12, 2015, 06:50:40 PM
I would like B10s scattered around

2 Darlaston corridor
2 Wilenhall 40/41
2 10/A
2 8/89
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on May 12, 2015, 06:55:41 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:48:34 PM
There not ready for withdrawal yet. Still perfectly ok

With further new buses on the horizon, B10Ls have a very short life left.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:57:07 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 12, 2015, 06:55:41 PM
With further new buses on the horizon, B10Ls have a very short life left.

Will last another two weeks though hopefully
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on May 12, 2015, 07:26:03 PM
Leather on the 51 & a 51 branded Enviro400 on a peak X51...
Such logic.

Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 12, 2015, 06:41:18 PM
What other routes could they suit? I doubt they would want to keep them on 301/302 with diamond in competition.

Put them all on the city routes! Just for a day!
Lol, can but dream
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Chris2301 on May 13, 2015, 01:52:52 PM
Just been on the 936 and you get some really nice views of Birmingham City Centre and West Brum especially on a nice day like this
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on May 13, 2015, 04:47:09 PM
Think the b10ls home is 311/3 as they are on there quite a bit
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 13, 2015, 04:47:41 PM
Can @Tony tell us where b10s are?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on May 13, 2015, 04:49:11 PM
1407 is on WA 311/3
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 13, 2015, 05:07:04 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on May 13, 2015, 04:47:09 PM
Think the b10ls home is 311/3 as they are on there quite a bit

Thats mainly B7Lre & Scania at the mo.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Chris2301 on May 13, 2015, 05:37:29 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 13, 2015, 04:47:41 PM
Can @Tony tell us where b10s are?

1 on 311/313
few on 34/A maybe one on 38
thats all i see  whilst in walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 14, 2015, 06:19:34 PM
Has the allocator designated a route to b10s yet?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 14, 2015, 09:10:56 PM
1447 on 10a today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 18, 2015, 05:10:20 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 18, 2015, 04:57:18 PM
What route(s) are B10s most commonly used on these days?

Last week i noticed darlaston corridor and 302 10/A

I think they'll return to 40/41 when the diversion in wilenhall is over.

Today

302-1447
302-1407
70A-1475
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 18, 2015, 08:02:25 PM
I'm planning to do a trip next Wednesday however our planned b10 route, may not be b10. Any ideas what are chances of b10 on 40/41 next week?

I know I keep asking, but I need to know
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 18, 2015, 08:09:36 PM
Just wait In Bradford place one will show up
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on May 18, 2015, 08:16:05 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 18, 2015, 08:02:25 PM
I'm planning to do a trip next Wednesday however our planned b10 route, may not be b10. Any ideas what are chances of b10 on 40/41 next week?

I know I keep asking, but I need to know

The roadworks in Willenhall are due to finish at the end of this week, so in theory the 40/41 should be back to B10 operation from next week. Remember, one of the buses on there should always be double deck (starting with the 0910 ex Walsall through until the late night bus on the 40E).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 18, 2015, 08:30:58 PM
Quote from: notepanel on May 18, 2015, 08:16:05 PM
The roadworks in Willenhall are due to finish at the end of this week, so in theory the 40/41 should be back to B10 operation from next week. Remember, one of the buses on there should always be double deck (starting with the 0910 ex Walsall through until the late night bus on the 40E).

Ok, do the 40/41 inter work?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Chris2301 on May 18, 2015, 08:34:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 18, 2015, 08:30:58 PM
Ok, do the 40/41 inter work?

Yes at walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on May 19, 2015, 08:19:15 AM
1763 on WA69
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 19, 2015, 06:43:32 PM
What buses were on 40/41 today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 19, 2015, 06:56:48 PM
B10 on 302 again
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 19, 2015, 07:00:03 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on May 19, 2015, 08:19:15 AM
1763 on WA69

1784 and 1761 too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 20, 2015, 02:23:40 PM
1440 and 1432 on 301 for the b10 hunters
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 20, 2015, 10:33:07 PM
Is the 4 group of services still operated by Walsall, as I needed a phone number for the depot for my sis in law, so I picked up the first leaflet in my collection that I thought was operated by Walsall, but the leaflet said Lost Property was handled by West Bromwich.

It was the most recent leaflet as well.

(The lost property concerned was lost on the 29 btw!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on May 20, 2015, 10:34:12 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 20, 2015, 10:33:07 PM
Is the 4 group of services still operated by Walsall, as I needed a phone number for the depot for my sis in law, so I picked up the first leaflet in my collection that I thought was operated by Walsall, but the leaflet said Lost Property was handled by West Bromwich.

It was the most recent leaflet as well.

(The lost property concerned was lost on the 29 btw!)

@Westy Yes, the 4/H/M is still operated by Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on May 21, 2015, 05:50:21 PM
Was 1421 swapped off the 34 today? @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 21, 2015, 07:27:18 PM
Are b10s expected to return on 40/41 next week?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: filbus1 on May 26, 2015, 06:50:51 AM
4683 spent the day at Wythall bus museum on bank holiday Monday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 26, 2015, 07:23:54 AM
Diversion for the Beechdale & x51 Cannock at the mo.

Accident at Green Lane has closed the road between Stephenson Avenue & Hospital St.

Diversion via Hospital St, Bloxwich Road, Leamore itself, Four Crosses Kfc & back down Green Lane, with the x51 having to serve Green Lane, turn round at Sainsburys & double back to Four Crosses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 26, 2015, 08:20:17 AM
Where are b10s today now that roadworks have finished
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 26, 2015, 08:52:38 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 26, 2015, 08:20:17 AM
Where are b10s today now that roadworks have finished

@Trident 4194 1475 is on the 39. Parked up at Wolverhampton Bus Station at 08:51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on May 26, 2015, 09:23:01 AM
E400 on 301/2
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 26, 2015, 12:46:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 26, 2015, 07:23:54 AM
Diversion for the Beechdale & x51 Cannock at the mo.

Accident at Green Lane has closed the road between Stephenson Avenue & Hospital St.

Diversion via Hospital St, Bloxwich Road, Leamore itself, Four Crosses Kfc & back down Green Lane, with the x51 having to serve Green Lane, turn round at Sainsburys & double back to Four Crosses.

Police are saying the road will be shut for two days!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 26, 2015, 01:11:03 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 26, 2015, 12:46:41 PM
Police are saying the road will be shut for two days!

It didnt look that bad at the time.

Obviously a lot worse than I thought.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 26, 2015, 01:14:27 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 26, 2015, 01:11:03 PM
It didnt look that bad at the time.

Obviously a lot worse than I thought.

Current diversion for 69 & 70 is Old Birchills, Bentley Lane, Reedswood Road, back to Sainsbury's.

Was the accident on the canal bridge? that might explain it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 26, 2015, 02:04:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 26, 2015, 01:14:27 PM
Current diversion for 69 & 70 is Old Birchills, Bentley Lane, Reedswood Road, back to Sainsbury's.

Was the accident on the canal bridge? that might explain it

Yes it was:

http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2015/05/26/woman-injured-and-road-closed-after-car-crashes-into-walsall-railway-bridge/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 26, 2015, 02:13:58 PM
Now had further details,

It appears it is a single car RTC with the wall of the bridge over the disused railway trackbed and the wall is now unstable and could fall either way
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on May 26, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 26, 2015, 02:13:58 PM
Now had further details,

It appears it is a single car RTC with the wall of the bridge over the disused railway trackbed and the wall is now unstable and could fall either way

That's the Chase line surely?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 26, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on May 26, 2015, 03:13:49 PM
That's the Chase line surely?

No, it is the trackbed of the long closed Wolverhampton line. The Chase line is much further up Green Lane
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on May 26, 2015, 03:19:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 26, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
No, it is the trackbed of the long closed Wolverhampton line. The Chase line is much further up Green Lane

Ah yes, with you.  The Google map accompanying the article in the Express & Star is bang wrong in that case.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 26, 2015, 03:57:21 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 26, 2015, 02:05:50 PM
4125 on the x51

As is 4258

4872 is on the 301. Seen in Walsall Bus Station at 15:56.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 26, 2015, 06:50:51 PM
What are the x51 loadings like compared to the 997?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on May 26, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 26, 2015, 06:50:51 PM
What are the x51 loadings like compared to the 997?

Bit of a strange question...
But both are normally quite full in peaks, during the day X51 seems to be busy 997 less so
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 26, 2015, 07:21:35 PM
Quote from: Kevin on May 26, 2015, 07:18:30 PM
Bit of a strange question...
But both are normally quite full in peaks, during the day X51 seems to be busy 997 less so

Sorry, @Matt  is refusing to go on the x51 on Thursday because it gets too busy and apparently isn't as nice as the 997 even though it takes half the time!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on May 26, 2015, 07:25:12 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 26, 2015, 07:21:35 PM
Sorry, @Matt  is refusing to go on the x51 on Thursday because it gets too busy and apparently isn't as nice as the 997 even though it takes half the time!

Ahh, fair enough.
To be fair, if you're going to Walsall I actually prefer the 934, goes up and over the Beacon and a little bit more direct than the 997 without being busy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 27, 2015, 07:16:19 AM
Green Lane now open this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 27, 2015, 09:02:36 AM
B10s now allocated to 69? Or is just three rare working?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 27, 2015, 09:08:08 AM
It has been a long time for a B10L, let alone three, to appear on WA 69. Looking forward to catch them today!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2015, 09:13:34 AM
1446 is on the 10
1421; 1431 & 1475 on Darlastons
1440 not out

If anyone is looking for all of the B10Ls

1407 & 1440 will die in the next couple of weeks taking the fleet down to 6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: paulb1973 on May 27, 2015, 02:31:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2015, 09:13:34 AM
1446 is on the 10
1421; 1431 & 1475 on Darlastons
1440 not out

If anyone is looking for all of the B10Ls

1407 & 1440 will die in the next couple of weeks taking the fleet down to 6


Tony, I assume 1453 [expected last day 24/5] is now withdrawn?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2015, 02:53:55 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on May 27, 2015, 02:31:12 PM

Tony, I assume 1453 [expected last day 24/5] is now withdrawn?

Yes, it actually died about a week before. It is possible the last 6 will see it out to the end
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on May 27, 2015, 04:05:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2015, 02:53:55 PM
Yes, it actually died about a week before. It is possible the last 6 will see it out to the end

When can we expect the end July when platinums arrive also any plans for more
B10L to join the Tranning fleet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 27, 2015, 06:55:04 PM
1407
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/17976015588/

1436
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18157471335/

1447
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18159675182/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on May 27, 2015, 08:06:11 PM
cant remember which b10l i boarded around 11am, but i have to say what a shame this particular beast is about to die. it should be sent to wrights/adl to show them how a bus should be. powerful, smooth, warm, very very few rattles - which given the Age and mileage you would expect. these put the e200 adls and newer wright bodies to shame. i know our roads to vehicles no favours, but if i was an operator, having spent as much on vehicle investment as nxwm, id be calling wrights and adl in and make them improve the build quality before i took anymore.

i think we will be lucky to see these latest additions last as long as these b10ls/b6's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on May 27, 2015, 08:49:54 PM
The B10Ls have been excellent - the B6s (well some of them) have been good as well. Wrights buses are still pretty good - the 12/13 reg Eclipse 2s NX have are very good though and are a reliable workhorse seemingly - remember Tony last year posting about how many had made it out in service with very few defects.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on May 27, 2015, 10:29:09 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on May 27, 2015, 08:49:54 PM
The B10Ls have been excellent - the B6s (well some of them) have been good as well. Wrights buses are still pretty good - the 12/13 reg Eclipse 2s NX have are very good though and are a reliable workhorse seemingly - remember Tony last year posting about how many had made it out in service with very few defects.

The 56 reg RLE's are superb.

Eclipse 2's I'm warming to but they do come with niggles.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on May 27, 2015, 10:32:02 PM
@Ashley 60171

The 56 regs are great - wish there were more of them! Really liked having them on the 37 - shame they all moved on to WA, and potentially now some going to Dundee.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on May 27, 2015, 10:36:54 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on May 27, 2015, 10:32:02 PM
@Ashley 60171

The 56 regs are great - wish there were more of them! Really liked having them on the 37 - shame they all moved on to WA, and potentially now some going to Dundee.

@Liberator9

I wish NXWM had ordered more MK 1 B7RLE's. Enthusiasts from outside of WM have mentioned to me many times ours are much better than any other company with the type. That comparison is normally between NX and most First divisions.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on May 27, 2015, 10:45:28 PM
@Ashley 60171

I've only been on a few outside of the west mids, mainly First, and they're right - NX's versions are the best by a mile - I just hope WA don't end up losing them as they're suited to the work at WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on May 27, 2015, 10:47:11 PM
Which routes do the B7RLE's find themselves on mostly ?! I intend to make a long journey over there just to ride the bus and I don't want it to be in vain !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on May 27, 2015, 10:49:27 PM
@BusFan

They run on the 301/302 mainly - best off trying to get one on there. They sometimes pop up on the 4, 311, 313 as well. Sometimes on the 10 which is a good run if one is on there. 301/302 is best though as won't take long to get on one if you just hang around the bus station.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2015, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on May 27, 2015, 10:45:28 PM
@Ashley 60171

I've only been on a few outside of the west mids, mainly First, and they're right - NX's versions are the best by a mile - I just hope WA don't end up losing them as they're suited to the work at WA.

I love some of these quotes - suited to Walsall routes - they have to be kept of several running boards because they don't fit!

Another is B10Ls are solid buses, hmm the training fleet are trying to find a couple that are not rotton underneath so will last a few more years!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 27, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2015, 10:50:03 PM
I love some of these quotes - suited to Walsall routes - they have to be kept of several running boards because they don't fit!


Which routes are those, as I'm sure I've seen them on most Walsall routes at one time or other?

Maybe the Darlaston corridor?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on May 27, 2015, 11:29:07 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 27, 2015, 11:23:38 PM
Which routes are those, as I'm sure I've seen them on most Walsall routes at one time or other?

Maybe the Darlaston corridor?


Think Alumwell is another place they're too big for
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 28, 2015, 09:38:11 AM
Anyone looking for B10L's today, 1407 and 1436 are on the 69 (other two buses are B7RLE)

1436's departures from Wolverhampton: 08:23,10:28,12:28,14:28 etc

1407's departures from Wolverhampton, 09:58,11:58,13:58 etc.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on May 28, 2015, 11:06:32 AM
I was unaware of them being incapable of being on certain running boards (although I do know that they are not allowed on the 38 in normal service) - I was talking more in that they are fairly settled at WA on routes such as the 301/302 and seem to be performing well in terms of reliability. Remember last year at some point there was some post about the reliability of the B7RLEs.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 28, 2015, 12:43:57 PM
Quote from: Matt on May 28, 2015, 12:34:57 PM
No, the 12:28 69 is 4533 not 1436


Its been swapped then!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 28, 2015, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 28, 2015, 12:43:57 PM

Its been swapped then!

Taken off at Walsall bus station at 11:24
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on May 29, 2015, 01:52:15 PM
Anyone know where the b10's are today? Seen 1421 on the 34 but that's it so far......
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 29, 2015, 01:54:50 PM
Quote from: X94 on May 29, 2015, 01:52:15 PM
Anyone know where the b10's are today? Seen 1421 on the 34 but that's it so far......

There were at least three on darlaston corridor yesterday, but good luck people actually helping you to find them. When I was there yesterday I had to find out for myself where they were. Because I didn't get any help I would like to help you, so look at Bradford place
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on May 29, 2015, 02:09:50 PM
Quote from: X94 on May 29, 2015, 01:52:15 PM
Anyone know where the b10's are today? Seen 1421 on the 34 but that's it so far......

@X94

It's worth going over to the bus station - some B10Ls do work on the 301/302/69. The other day saw 3/4 of them on the 301/302.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 29, 2015, 02:15:21 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on May 29, 2015, 02:09:50 PM
@X94

It's worth going over to the bus station - some B10Ls do work on the 301/302/69. The other day saw 3/4 of them on the 301/302.

Not on the 69 today it seems. At least 3 out of the 4 buses are Tridents
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on May 29, 2015, 02:16:51 PM
@Nathan

Thanks Nathan - the B10Ls seem to be hopping around the different routes at WA in their last few weeks - one day most of the buses on the 69 are B10Ls, then there's none  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on May 29, 2015, 02:22:59 PM
wouldn't mind one dropping in Halesowen or merry hill...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 01, 2015, 05:20:25 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 01, 2015, 05:19:02 PM
1436 just arrived in Blackheath on the 4, but left not in service.

Your doomed with that bus! Twice now!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 01, 2015, 06:19:48 PM
Quote from: Matt on June 01, 2015, 05:19:02 PM
1436 just arrived in Blackheath on the 4, but left not in service.

Now back on time and back in service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on June 01, 2015, 06:57:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 01, 2015, 06:19:48 PM
Now back on time and back in service

Sorry if its a daft question but is 1436 staying out? If so I'm heading out for it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 03, 2015, 07:59:11 PM
One of Walsalls B7RLEs branded for the 301/2 is having front end repairs in Perry Barr. Can't remember the fleetnumber though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 03, 2015, 09:17:15 PM
Anyone know which B10L was on the Dudley this morning?

It was working the 739 out of Bradford Place this morning.

(I had a lie in this morning!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on June 04, 2015, 06:59:30 AM
Decided to do something different today so currently on 51 branded 4867 on the X56. Quick question, does the bus on the 6:40 X56 go on the 51 after from town? Noticed this is always a 51 branded E40D.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2015, 11:37:22 AM
1446 is having a day on the 69. Seen on Fryer St in Wolverhampton at 11:34
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 04, 2015, 07:35:06 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 04, 2015, 06:59:30 AM
Decided to do something different today so currently on 51 branded 4867 on the X56. Quick question, does the bus on the 6:40 X56 go on the 51 after from town? Noticed this is always a 51 branded E40D.

Yes, spends all day on the 51 whennit gets to town.
And usually branded yeah, I aim for that bus most mornings from Tower Hill meself
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on June 05, 2015, 10:01:30 AM
Is the rumours about 311/3 going double Decker true
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 05, 2015, 04:48:32 PM
1771 on the 40/1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 05, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on June 05, 2015, 10:01:30 AM
Is the rumours about 311/3 going double Decker true

Word in the garage is that it is going DD.

I personally think it will be once the platinums arrive, maybe enviros for 311/3 and then b7rle to Dundee? - just a theory!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on June 05, 2015, 05:53:55 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 05, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Word in the garage is that it is going DD.

I personally think it will be once the platinums arrive, maybe enviros for 311/3 and then b7rle to Dundee? - just a theory!
Well they sure need doubles on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 05, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on June 05, 2015, 05:53:55 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 05, 2015, 05:40:40 PM
Word in the garage is that it is going DD.

I personally think it will be once the platinums arrive, maybe enviros for 311/3 and then b7rle to Dundee? - just a theory!
Well they sure need doubles on there

Surely singles are better, if double then a 10 min service woulkdn't be needed!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 05, 2015, 06:44:33 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 05, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Well they sure need doubles on there


Surely singles are better, if double then a 10 min service woulkdn't be needed!

Hope it dont reduce.

I have to wait long enough at night as it is!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 05, 2015, 07:03:42 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 05, 2015, 05:58:23 PM
Surely singles are better, if double then a 10 min service woulkdn't be needed!

Hell no. Every half hour each? Only every 15 mins between
three major Black Country towns and past a major tourist attraction?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: D10 on June 07, 2015, 10:54:52 AM
Pictures released of three scum bags wanted for the attempted robbery at Walsall garage in April:

http://www.walsalladvertiser.co.uk/CCTV-men-released-police-hunt-Walsall-bus-depot/story-26635713-detail/story.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on June 07, 2015, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: D10 on June 07, 2015, 10:54:52 AM
Pictures released of three scum bags wanted for the attempted robbery at Walsall garage in April:

http://www.walsalladvertiser.co.uk/CCTV-men-released-police-hunt-Walsall-bus-depot/story-26635713-detail/story.html
Some people have no shame do they I hope they catch them before they try to rob somebody else
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 07, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
Have b10s moved back to the 40/41 now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 08, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 07, 2015, 06:07:05 PM
Have b10s moved back to the 40/41 now?

All 5 B10Ls that are on the road today are on the 40/41 (1407/21/36/46/7). The other remaining one 1475 is not out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on June 08, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 08, 2015, 10:05:04 AM
All 5 B10Ls that are on the road today are on the 40/41 (1407/21/36/46/7). The other remaining one 1475 is not out

1447 now on 10/10A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 08, 2015, 06:34:43 PM
Any reason why NX didnt put anything on Facebook(dunno about Twitter) about the RTC in Bloxwich today when both Arriva & Diamond did?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 08, 2015, 06:39:47 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 08, 2015, 06:34:43 PM
Any reason why NX didnt put anything on Facebook(dunno about Twitter) about the RTC in Bloxwich today when both Arriva & Diamond did?

They did on Twitter. :) Click  here (https://twitter.com/nxwestmidlands/status/607826085531779072) to see the tweet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2015, 11:36:04 AM
Today it is 4 B10Ls on the 40/41; one is on the 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 09, 2015, 12:44:54 PM
What was this in aid of?


http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4865.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 09, 2015, 12:59:04 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 08, 2015, 06:39:47 PM
They did on Twitter. :) Click  here (https://twitter.com/nxwestmidlands/status/607826085531779072) to see the tweet.

Well that was only one service out of how many.

Nice to see a 'local' wrote the tweet...not!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 09, 2015, 03:58:58 PM
1842 has come out on pm peak 10/10A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 06:07:40 PM
What is 1407s death date? Also the pvr of the 40/41 is 8 correct?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2015, 06:12:52 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 06:07:40 PM
What is 1407s death date? Also the pvr of the 40/41 is 8 correct?

It could obviously die earlier, but last day possible is 19th June
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 06:16:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2015, 06:12:52 PM
It could obviously die earlier, but last day possible is 19th June

Oh no 😔 any other b10s due to be withdrawn before the middle of July?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 09, 2015, 07:00:22 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 06:07:40 PM
What is 1407s death date? Also the pvr of the 40/41 is 8 correct?

No 7 boards on the 40/1, plus one in the morning that goes onto the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
And one is booked a decker? Is this even on Saturdays?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on June 09, 2015, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 07:12:48 PM
And one is booked a decker? Is this even on Saturdays?

Seemingly, at least two boards are now deckers as there aren't enough B10L's for the PVR of 7 (Only 6, 1407, 1421, 1436, 1446, 1447, 1475 and in the past few days, only 5 have been out) and that may increase as the rest of the B10's meet their maker, and one board is booked as a decker to do late night 40E's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 09, 2015, 08:03:21 PM
Seemingly, at least two boards are now deckers as there aren't enough B10L's for the PVR of 7 (Only 6, 1407, 1421, 1436, 1446, 1447, 1475 and in the past few days, only 5 have been out) and that may increase as the rest of the B10's meet their maker, and one board is booked as a decker to do late night 40E's.

Thanks for that, what bus is the decker? Or is it random?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on June 09, 2015, 08:29:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 08:19:00 PM
Thanks for that, what bus is the decker? Or is it random?

The late night board is board 41/07, i think

@Trident 4194 don't take these as definite, though, as i could be wrong
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 08:36:08 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 09, 2015, 08:29:08 PM
The late night board is board 41/07, i think

@Trident 4194 don't take these as definite, though, as i could be wrong

Yes it is, is it geminis on that board?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on June 09, 2015, 08:38:45 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 08:36:08 PM
Yes it is, is it geminis on that board?

Any decker but the E400's get on there, really
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2015, 08:43:12 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 09, 2015, 08:36:08 PM
Yes it is, is it geminis on that board?

As I have stated several times, Walsall do not allocate deckers by vehicle type except on the 51 & 934 boards, it is either standard seats or high back seats! So every boards except those on the X51 can get any decker
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2015, 08:45:22 PM
This week will probably be the last chance to photograph or ride on 4680-6 in the West Midlands. You have been warned!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on June 09, 2015, 08:49:15 PM
Interesting - suggestion that they are Dundee bound  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on June 09, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
With only 8 other Geminis at Walsall I wonder whether this will spell the end of that vehicle type there once all the Platinums are delivered and the various cascades have all happened.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 09, 2015, 08:53:34 PM
Quote from: Mike K on June 09, 2015, 08:51:45 PM
With only 8 other Geminis at Walsall I wonder whether this will spell the end of that vehicle type there once all the Platinums are delivered and the various cascades have all happened.

Ahem ahem
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 09, 2015, 09:09:56 PM
I love driving the Gemini's , a lot of drivers aren't keen but ive definitely got a soft spot for them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2015, 09:14:35 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 09, 2015, 09:09:56 PM
I love driving the Gemini's , a lot of drivers aren't keen but ive definitely got a soft spot for them

4680-6 were new while I was a driver at Walsall, always been some of my favourite buses to drive, sad to see them leaving
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 09, 2015, 09:16:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2015, 09:14:35 PM
4680-6 were new while I was a driver at Walsall, always been some of my favourite buses to drive, sad to see them leaving

I rememeber when they were new in premier997 livery and how good and unusual they looked :(

Walsall are taking a right beating with tridents moving out, Mk1 enviros and geminis going :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 09, 2015, 09:17:13 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2015, 09:14:35 PM
4680-6 were new while I was a driver at Walsall, always been some of my favourite buses to drive, sad to see them leaving


@Tony

Driving wise are they any different to 4635-79?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 09, 2015, 09:16:30 PM
I rememeber when they were new in premier997 livery and how good and unusual they looked :(

Walsall are taking a right beating with tridents moving out, Mk1 enviros and geminis going :(

Lots of buses to arrive there yet, including a couple of surprises
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 09, 2015, 09:18:55 PM
Quote from: MW on June 09, 2015, 09:17:13 PM

@Tony

Driving wise are they any different to 4635-79?

Not really, with the heavier seats they do seem more stable than any other bus, They were never scary driving them over the A34 flyovers in high winds like E400s are.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on June 09, 2015, 09:51:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2015, 09:17:28 PM
Lots of buses to arrive there yet, including a couple of surprises

More buses then the platinum's coming?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 09, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
Are all Tridents going from walsall?  Shame if so
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 09, 2015, 10:46:57 PM
Whats the most likely types on the early X51 cannock trips ive gotta catch it tomorrow.  Alx B7?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 09, 2015, 10:48:59 PM
Isn't likely to be a new type not previously operated by Walsall, is it?

They wouldn't move any of those Omnicity things would they?

(Only other types I could think of, Mercs & Spectras, are going anyway!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 09, 2015, 10:51:37 PM
Quote from: Bob on June 09, 2015, 10:46:57 PM
Whats the most likely types on the early X51 cannock trips ive gotta catch it tomorrow.  Alx B7?

On Journey 2 from Cannock, it's mainly Enviro with occasional Gem DD. Once in a blue moon, a Trident.

(Haven't seen one of those recent transfers on the Cannock X51's yet!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 09, 2015, 10:51:55 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 09, 2015, 10:48:59 PM
Isn't likely to be a new type not previously operated by Walsall, is it?

They wouldn't move any of those Omnicity things would they?

(Only other types I could think of, Mercs & Spectras, are going anyway!)

And hybrids! Albeit very unlikely!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on June 10, 2015, 09:42:52 AM
Perry Barrs scania double decks to Walsall maybe that would be a surprise
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 10, 2015, 10:35:35 AM
Or new b7rle? Seems like an obvious choice
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 10, 2015, 10:45:22 AM
Only 4 B10Ls out today, 1 on the 34, 3 on the 10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 10, 2015, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: 2900 on June 10, 2015, 09:42:52 AM
Perry Barrs scania double decks to Walsall maybe that would be a surprise

We'll have them on the Dudley route please!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 10, 2015, 03:18:55 PM
There's 5 B10Ls on 10/A today

1407/1475 as also come out

1407/1421 out all night if stay on original board

1407
1421
1436
1447
1475
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 10, 2015, 04:57:09 PM
That's good to know 1475 is back in service. :) Shame I'm not in Walsall today. :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on June 10, 2015, 08:11:11 PM
1407 on 20:00 6 from Slutton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 10, 2015, 08:14:50 PM
Quote from: lynx1103 on June 10, 2015, 03:18:55 PM
1407/1421 out all night if stay on original board

Currently on 1421 on the 10
Figured my chances of bashing these are pretty slim with the way works looking so making use of every chance I can get
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on June 10, 2015, 11:05:23 PM
Quote from: Kevin on June 10, 2015, 08:14:50 PM
Currently on 1421 on the 10
Figured my chances of bashing these are pretty slim with the way works looking so making use of every chance I can get

I got off 1421 when it came in on the 6. Never had one on there but yeah endangered species. Adorning a spotter smile still but I wont be getting much sleep tonight.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 10, 2015, 11:21:58 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on June 10, 2015, 08:11:11 PM
1407 on 20:00 6 from Slutton

Is that Slutton Codfield??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on June 10, 2015, 11:52:02 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on June 10, 2015, 11:21:58 PM
Is that Slutton Codfield??

Slutton or Scutton but was unusually quiet tonight. Still a nicer place to wait for a bus than Walsall or Wolvertrampton lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on June 11, 2015, 12:03:36 AM
I missed the event due to other commitments but sounds like a deliberate swansong to me. Would've been cool to see from the bar of The Gate!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 11, 2015, 07:46:06 AM
What is replacing the high backed geminis? Also with 4763-4775 going to Coventry what will replace these on the x51/997? I know platinum mmcs are due but not that soon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on June 11, 2015, 08:12:33 AM
The Platinum MMCs will be within a month or two - WA are probably up a few buses to requirements at the moment anyway - have a few extra Scanias and ALX400s which can easily cover for any outgoing buses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 11, 2015, 09:22:12 AM
Been told the platinums won't be arriving until the end of July
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lynx1103 on June 11, 2015, 11:44:34 AM
4141 out in the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 11, 2015, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 11, 2015, 09:22:12 AM
Been told the platinums won't be arriving until the end of July

I'm ok with a month of Tridents to work  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 12, 2015, 12:10:24 PM
For the B10L fans, 1407 and 1446 are on the 301, 1436 is on 10/10A. 1475 has come out onto the 301 now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 12, 2015, 06:33:06 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 12, 2015, 12:10:24 PM
For the B10L fans, 1407 and 1446 are on the 301, 1436 is on 10/10A. 1475 has come out onto the 301 now.
Around 1725, 1436 was receiving some attention to its os bodywork in the bus station.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on June 13, 2015, 08:48:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2015, 09:14:35 PM
4680-6 were new while I was a driver at Walsall, always been some of my favourite buses to drive, sad to see them leaving

Sorry if I've been a bit slow or missed something but why have they gone to Dundee?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 13, 2015, 09:41:45 PM
301/2 return branded on the 34E tonight. Seen shortly before 9pm in Bilston.

1475 also on late night Darlastons tonight. I thought the late boards would be Scania's. Nice to see a B10L on lates
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2015, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on Today at 04:45:46 PM

    4298 on 51, overtook by another 42xx on 997, and passed on the opposit side by 4263 on 934. All on a Sunday!


That's because nearly all the unbranded Enviro 400s are on 'Iron Man' services today, here is the bus I was driving, 4875
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4875.html

I know that photo looks like I stopped and caused a traffic jam to get the photo, but honestly I was in a queue of Stationary traffic!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 14, 2015, 05:43:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2015, 05:36:54 PM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on Today at 04:45:46 PM

    4298 on 51, overtook by another 42xx on 997, and passed on the opposit side by 4263 on 934. All on a Sunday!


That's because nearly all the unbranded Enviro 400s are on 'Iron Man' services today, here is the bus I was driving, 4875
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4875.html

I know that photo looks like I stopped and caused a traffic jam to get the photo, but honestly I was in a queue of Stationary traffic!

Was this the one that came past Bloxwich Asda between 2 & 3 this afternoon towards depot, as I saw an Enviro with 'Iron Man' on the side display?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2015, 05:45:23 PM
Not me, I was back in garage by 11:30, but there were about 12 vehicles on there, I was running board 'N'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 14, 2015, 11:16:21 PM
For the B10L fans, here is 1407 and 1421 on the 41 and 1421 a few days later on the 69

1421 on the 69:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18555448168/

1421 on the 41:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18413880988/

1407 on the 41:
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/trident_4609/18597588812/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on June 15, 2015, 09:56:54 AM
1883 on 8/89
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 15, 2015, 10:10:00 AM
All six remaining B10Ls are out today and all on the same routes - the 40/41
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 15, 2015, 01:29:23 PM
4878 now debranded and named Sadie
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 16, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
1407, 1436, 1446, 1447, and 1475 are on the 40/41.
1421 is on the 39 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 16, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 16, 2015, 03:45:17 PM
1407, 1436, 1446, 1447, and 1475 are on the 40/41.
1421 is on the 39 today.

1407 only has 3 days left
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2015, 03:56:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
1407 only has 3 days left

Will the rest last another 3 weeks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 16, 2015, 04:03:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
1407 only has 3 days left

Oh, no. :( Thanks for sharing the info, I shall have the last ride on 1407 soon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Niall on June 16, 2015, 05:34:19 PM
1855 got a little lost on its way to Halesowen on the 4H. Passed it on Dudley Road on the 241 route in Springfield, he had to ask the 241 for directions.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2015, 06:12:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2015, 03:48:47 PM
1407 only has 3 days left

So is it to be withdrawn on Friday or saturday?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 17, 2015, 10:16:28 AM
4876 now also debranded but I forgot the name
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 17, 2015, 11:02:59 AM
Quote from: Niall on June 16, 2015, 05:34:19 PM
1855 got a little lost on its way to Halesowen on the 4H. Passed it on Dudley Road on the 241 route in Springfield, he had to ask the 241 for directions.

There was a diversion yesterday around that time on the 4's
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 17, 2015, 01:22:29 PM
Quote from: John on June 17, 2015, 10:16:28 AM
4876 now also debranded but I forgot the name

Ocea
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 17, 2015, 06:50:17 PM
Quote from: John on June 17, 2015, 06:37:07 PM
WA | 1446 | X51 | Passed it in Newtown just after 5pm

What?!!! It was on 10/10A earlier! Jesus Christ, I'm at home now, wish I was on 1446. Well done, that's the ultra rare working!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on June 17, 2015, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 17, 2015, 06:50:17 PM
What?!!! It was on 10/10A earlier! Jesus Christ, that's an ultra rare working!

I believe it was on the 10 board that then goes on to operate the X51 into Birmingham and then X56 to Boney Hay.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 18, 2015, 03:37:22 AM
Wouldnt the X51 element be in breach of the emissions thing?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 18, 2015, 07:53:52 AM
Quote from: notepanel on June 17, 2015, 06:51:42 PM
I believe it was on the 10 board that then goes on to operate the X51 into Birmingham and then X56 to Boney Hay.

@notepanel, do you know which 10/? running board this was?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on June 18, 2015, 10:53:43 AM
Just spotted PMG truck towing E400 4877 to Walsall depot
Passed M6 (Chelmsey Wood) 1050
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 18, 2015, 10:55:11 AM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 18, 2015, 10:53:43 AM
Just spotted PMG truck towing E400 4877 to Walsall depot
Passed M6 (Chelmsey Wood) 1050

Been down to Cummins at Wellingborough for work
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 18, 2015, 06:42:29 PM
Managed a ride on 1407 on the 40E from Walsall at 1730, but no photo, alas!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on June 19, 2015, 07:15:11 AM
how many B10L's Walsall have now

as im planning to head up Walsall today to photograph last ones
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: filbus1 on June 19, 2015, 07:59:23 AM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 19, 2015, 07:15:11 AM
how many B10L's Walsall have now

as im planning to head up Walsall today to photograph last ones
6 left
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on June 19, 2015, 08:07:04 AM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on June 19, 2015, 07:15:11 AM
how many B10L's Walsall have now

as im planning to head up Walsall today to photograph last ones

1421 is on the 34, 08:07 dep from Bilston.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on June 22, 2015, 07:42:53 AM
4880 now debranded. Didn't catch the name though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on June 22, 2015, 07:47:05 AM
4884 also debranded. No name yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on June 22, 2015, 07:49:14 AM
51 branded 4863 now named 'Fay'.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 22, 2015, 11:47:06 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 22, 2015, 07:49:14 AM
51 branded 4863 now named 'Fay'.

They've all been named the 51 branded ones over the weekend, you can see where they rubbed the dirt away to add the name!

I've also seen a georgia
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 22, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 22, 2015, 11:47:06 AM
They've all been named the 51 branded ones over the weekend, you can see where they rubbed the dirt away to add the name!

I've also seen a georgia

Now they have been done I will add them to the main site tonight, but the list is
Kaytlyn   4857
Hazel   4858
Brinlee   4859
Dakota Rose   4860
Suhana   4861
Lola   4862
Fay   4863
Patsie   4864
Jenne   4865
Amelia    4866
Georgie   4867
Emilia    4868
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on June 22, 2015, 11:52:39 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 22, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
Now they have been done I will add them to the main site tonight, but the list is
Kaytlyn   4857
Hazel   4858
Brinlee   4859
Dakota Rose   4860
Suhana   4861
Lola   4862
Fay   4863
Patsie   4864
Jenne   4865
Amelia    4866
Georgie   4867
Emilia    4868
Don't forget the 487*'s. Or are they named after BC drivers' daughters?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 22, 2015, 12:43:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 22, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
Now they have been done I will add them to the main site tonight, but the list is
Kaytlyn   4857
...

Has it lost the "Alexander Stadium" name then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on June 22, 2015, 03:27:23 PM
Quote from: Dom on June 19, 2015, 08:07:04 AM
1421 is on the 34, 08:07 dep from Bilston.

when is the B10L's going out of service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 22, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
What buses operate on 89 service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on June 22, 2015, 05:01:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 22, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
What buses operate on 89 service?

Volvo B7RLE's, Volvo B7TL's, Tridents mostly. Can be other vehicle types if required. The 89 interworks with the 8 to save another question.

Quote from: leewhayward29 on June 22, 2015, 03:27:23 PM
when is the B10L's going out of service

In a month or two at the most.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 22, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on June 22, 2015, 05:01:15 PM
Volvo B7RLE's, Volvo B7TL's, Tridents mostly. Can be other vehicle types if required. The 89 interworks with the 8 to save another question.

In a month or two at the most.

There's no immediate rush with the remaining five, there are other things more important to do with the new vehicles at the moment
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on June 22, 2015, 06:19:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 22, 2015, 06:11:39 PM
There's no immediate rush with the remaining five, there are other things more important to do with the new vehicles at the moment
Like getting them finished properly so that they can be finally be delivered to their respective depots so they can be used in service I guess Tony ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on June 22, 2015, 06:44:53 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 22, 2015, 07:42:53 AM
4880 now debranded. Didn't catch the name though.

Named Shy-Ann
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 22, 2015, 07:01:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 22, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
Now they have been done I will add them to the main site tonight, but the list is
Kaytlyn   4857
Hazel   4858
Brinlee   4859
Dakota Rose   4860
Suhana   4861
Lola   4862
Fay   4863
Patsie   4864
Jenne   4865
Amelia    4866
Georgie   4867
Emilia    4868

I would have thought that the 51 branding might have been completed (to go with the 33 branding, stripe on the side and under the window-screen) when the names were applied
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on June 22, 2015, 07:10:51 PM
Not read everything on here yet, but do we know what is going to happen to the E400's on the 997 etc when the new lot arrive. Has it been announced which route they are being cascaded to yet, or is it still going to the Pershore Rd as the 900/957 ones didn't/don't provide enough buses. Cheers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on June 22, 2015, 09:32:11 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on June 22, 2015, 09:23:39 PM
Is there only one left?

Christ, you turn your back for five minutes and look what happens.

@The Real 4778

Five B10L's left. I said above they'd be gone in a couple of months but Tony's response suggests they'll see out the "summer" in service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 23, 2015, 10:01:58 AM
@nxwmbusfan1999 Tridents on the X51/997s are not unusual. On there all the time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on June 23, 2015, 10:22:56 AM
Any B10's on 34/39 today?

Seen 1475/1447 on 40
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 23, 2015, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: Kevin on June 22, 2015, 12:43:51 PM
Has it lost the "Alexander Stadium" name then?

And to answer my own question .. .. ..
4857 just passed me in Town with both names on...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 23, 2015, 12:44:53 PM
@nxwmbusfan1999 Double Deckers are not unusual on the 69.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
The 40/41 should consist of if I am correct 5 b10s, 1 b7rle urban and a decker of some sort?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 23, 2015, 07:15:29 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
The 40/41 should consist of if I am correct 5 b10s, 1 b7rle urban and a decker of some sort?

It can vary. B7RLE's are not usually on there. The amount of B10's on there does vary so there could be a couple of double deckers then the rest B10's, then the next day it may be an extra double decker and one less B10.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:03:32 PM
Am I right I assuming 4763-4768 go to Coventry and 4769-4776 stay at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:07:05 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:03:32 PM
Am I right I assuming 4763-4768 go to Coventry and 4769-4776 stay at Walsall?

No
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:07:05 PM
No

Oh, do nx have plans for them then? BC maybe?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:18:37 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:16:23 PM
Oh, do nx have plans for them then? BC maybe?

Off course NX have plans for them, they have plans for all 1535 operational vehicles! Just wondering why you had a guess at 6 vehicles for Coventry and think you may have the correct number
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:18:37 PM
Off course NX have plans for them, they have plans for all 1535 operational vehicles! Just wondering why you had a guess at 6 vehicles for Coventry and think you may have the correct number

Because 4763-4768 are different to 4769-4776 regarding interior and you said not all are going to Coventry
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on June 23, 2015, 08:30:40 PM
Just a thought but what about, 4733 - 4737 & 4763 - 4767 to Coventry, makes 10 plus same interior and engine except for the high backed seats. And 4768 - 4776 to either BC, PB of WB?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:33:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:26:23 PM
Because 4763-4768 are different to 4769-4776 regarding interior and you said not all are going to Coventry

4763-4776 are all identical interiors, once they have been retrimmed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:35:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:33:19 PM
4763-4776 are all identical interiors, once they have been retrimmed

And that will take quite a long time, may I ask why there getting rid of the leather seats?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on June 23, 2015, 08:37:03 PM
Probably because the leather now looks a bit worse for wear - better to have smart retrimmed seats than worn out leather.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:35:43 PM
And that will take quite a long time, may I ask why there getting rid of the leather seats?

It takes the trimshop a couple of days to retrim a bus, not exactly a long time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on June 23, 2015, 08:42:52 PM
NX do refurb and repaint pretty quick - already got through a fair number of the 48XX Enviro 400s and some of the 57 E400s.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
It takes the trimshop a couple of days to retrim a bus, not exactly a long time

Yes but there focusing on getting 474* and 48** at the moment, so it won't be soon, surely leather is still respected as a luxury for customers. I mean I haven't travelled on a leather seated e400 so can't cast a judgement, but surely they can't be that worn out, I mean the diamond Royales are still in outstanding conditions
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on June 23, 2015, 08:45:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
It takes the trimshop a couple of days to retrim a bus, not exactly a long time

Will they still a high back seat or normal seat, if you can say.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on June 23, 2015, 08:46:14 PM
Leather seats over time wear out - the leather crumples up. The Royales will be in better condition due to the lower passenger numbers - the E400s have high loads in comparison and thus wear down. I have leather buses on my route and personally prefer normal fabric - hate the sliding around and looks worn out fairly quickly. I'd rather have a good quality fabric seat than worn out leather seat.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on June 23, 2015, 08:47:20 PM
Quote from: Dom on June 23, 2015, 08:45:09 PM
Will they still a high back seat or normal seat, if you can say.

They'll still have high back seats :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:49:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:43:59 PM
Yes but there focusing on getting 474* and 48** at the moment, so it won't be soon, surely leather is still respected as a luxury for customers. I mean I haven't travelled on a leather seated e400 so can't cast a judgement, but surely they can't be that worn out, I mean the diamond Royales are still in outstanding conditions

4764 delivered to Coventry today, 4763 finished at Walsall, 4766 being repanelled, two more to go in in the next week, and the rest that are going to Coventry aren't far behind, don't just guess what is being done by what has been done in the past
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:51:34 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on June 23, 2015, 08:46:14 PM
Leather seats over time wear out - the leather crumples up. The Royales will be in better condition due to the lower passenger numbers - the E400s have high loads in comparison and thus wear down. I have leather buses on my route and personally prefer normal fabric - hate the sliding around and looks worn out fairly quickly. I'd rather have a good quality fabric seat than worn out leather seat.

I disagree with you on that one, leather seats are the comfiest seats out, the platinum 900s/957s are a bit of a letdown because they only have partial leather seating. I agree that nx have high usage, but so do diamonds, having many years on the 9,4/4H and 002
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:49:26 PM
4764 delivered to Coventry today, 4763 finished at Walsall, 4766 being repanelled, two more to go in in the next week, and the rest that are going to Coventry aren't far behind, don't just guess what is being done by what has been done in the past

So they should be retrimmed in the next 3 weeks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on June 23, 2015, 08:57:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:49:26 PM
4764 delivered to Coventry today, 4763 finished at Walsall, 4766 being repanelled, two more to go in in the next week, and the rest that are going to Coventry aren't far behind, don't just guess what is being done by what has been done in the past
These were, by far, my favourite buses, when new. Although, I was, and have always been quite skeptical about the Premier 997 branding with the NX Brand. It looked a little too plain for a 'high-profile' route... If anything, I would've guessed the (now former) YW Enviros would be transferred to Coventry. What with it's light blue interior, it really would've suited the livery well, if not better, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on June 23, 2015, 08:58:18 PM
Personally prefer the fabric - have high backed leather on my route and don't like them - NX's seats are much better for back support and comfort. Walsall really are working flat out - doing a great job as well on the repaints of the E400s.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2015, 09:01:59 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 23, 2015, 08:52:44 PM
So they should be retrimmed in the next 3 weeks?

Sometimes I think I am fighting a losing battle.....No! The will be retrimmed when they are repainted in Coventry colours, so while they will be going into the paintshop as soon as Walsall can spare them, they will still take the usual amount of time before they re-appear
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ossie on June 23, 2015, 11:22:53 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but .... noted FJ11GKA on the Aston Expressway today.  This was one of the six ex-Whittle National Express liveried coaches that went "on loan" to Walsall and was fleet-numbered 9087 by NXWM.  Just wondering - are they still "on loan" to NXWM, or have they since moved on to another company?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 23, 2015, 11:30:05 PM
Quote from: Ossie on June 23, 2015, 11:22:53 PM
Not sure if this is the right thread to ask, but .... noted FJ11GKA on the Aston Expressway today.  This was one of the six ex-Whittle National Express liveried coaches that went "on loan" to Walsall and was fleet-numbered 9087 by NXWM.  Just wondering - are they still "on loan" to NXWM, or have they since moved on to another company?

Yes they are still on loan to NXWM working former Whittle's NX diagrams

Tony posted a picture of 87 FJ11GKA on the 19th June
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0116-0422/87.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ossie on June 23, 2015, 11:34:03 PM
Ah, brilliant - thanks, Winston!  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2015, 06:19:56 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2015, 08:33:19 PM
4763-4776 are all identical interiors, once they have been retrimmed

The seats are a different shape on 4763-7 compared to the ex997 ones
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2015, 06:22:34 AM
Quote from: clayderman on June 23, 2015, 08:57:34 PM
These were, by far, my favourite buses, when new. Although, I was, and have always been quite skeptical about the Premier 997 branding with the NX Brand. It looked a little too plain for a 'high-profile' route... If anything, I would've guessed the (now former) YW Enviros would be transferred to Coventry. What with it's light blue interior, it really would've suited the livery well, if not better, in my opinion.

4763-7 hsve light blue plastic, 4768-76 have grey and blue poles :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on June 24, 2015, 05:47:12 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 24, 2015, 06:22:34 AM
4763-7 hsve light blue plastic, 4768-76 have grey and blue poles :)
Yet, am I right in saying all of them had the rear grill, above the display?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on June 24, 2015, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: clayderman on June 24, 2015, 05:47:12 PM
Yet, am I right in saying all of them had the rear grill, above the display?

Yes it was an 'air chill' system similar to those fitted to TfL spec vehicles I believe. Not now in use on any of them any more from what I've read.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 24, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
Registrations for 6719-58 are now on the main site
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/5001-9959.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on June 24, 2015, 07:46:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
Registrations for 6719-58 are now on the main site
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/5001-9959.html

can't wait to see them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 24, 2015, 07:51:35 PM
Quote from: leewhayward29 on June 24, 2015, 07:46:38 PM
can't wait to see them.

Might be some photos of them on the main site tomorrow
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on June 24, 2015, 08:02:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2015, 07:51:35 PM
Might be some photos of them on the main site tomorrow

I thought they was coming late July
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Matt.N0056 on June 25, 2015, 11:49:55 AM
934/5/6 buses starting to be debranded. Seen at least two the last week - 4880/4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 25, 2015, 12:29:24 PM
Is there a route '40-and-a-half'? I ask because on the B10Ls working the 40 and 41  the rear blind is usually set half way between the '1' and '0' .
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on June 25, 2015, 12:44:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2015, 07:51:35 PM
Might be some photos of them on the main site tomorrow
The new WA Platinum buses coming from Scotland like the standard MMC's or still from Scarborough as I see they have the SN prefix not the YX of the BC variety. Just wondering that's all @Tony??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on June 25, 2015, 12:49:10 PM
6701-18 were built in Scarborough and 6719-58 are/will be Falkirk built.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on June 25, 2015, 01:00:28 PM
Quote from: Gareth on June 25, 2015, 12:49:10 PM
6701-18 were built in Scarborough and 6719-58 are/will be Falkirk built.
Cheers @Gareth that explains the registration prefix plus I couldn't remember where exactly the others were built just knew is was up north somewhere lol. Did think at first I was seeing things until I double checked
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 25, 2015, 01:34:27 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on June 25, 2015, 12:29:24 PM
Is there a route '40-and-a-half'? I ask because on the B10Ls working the 40 and 41  the rear blind is usually set half way between the '1' and '0' .

Its because the drivers havent got  time to keep changing the blinds!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 25, 2015, 01:36:14 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on June 25, 2015, 11:49:55 AM
934/5/6 buses starting to be debranded. Seen at least two the last week - 4880/4

Theres one ex 997 that has only been partially debranded, with the stopping points still listed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 25, 2015, 02:08:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 25, 2015, 01:36:14 PM
Theres one ex 997 that has only been partially debranded, with the stopping points still listed.

4771
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 25, 2015, 04:20:42 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 25, 2015, 01:34:27 PM
Its because the drivers havent got  time to keep changing the blinds!

I had assumed that, but it still looks odd!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on June 25, 2015, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on June 25, 2015, 12:29:24 PM
Is there a route '40-and-a-half'? I ask because on the B10Ls working the 40 and 41  the rear blind is usually set half way between the '1' and '0' .

See if im 100% honest thats driver laziness. Ok drivers may not have masses amount of time but passengers still have to get off the bus. Why not change it then when you do the destination.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on June 25, 2015, 06:29:25 PM
Used to happen when NX ran the 40A/C and the S2/S3. Used to put just 40 on the rear blind and just an "S" if they were on one of the S2/S3 interworking boards. Just easier and many use the front/side displays anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 25, 2015, 06:55:04 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 25, 2015, 01:34:27 PM
Its because the drivers havent got  time to keep changing the blinds!

Maybe but they have time to have a chat with other drivers. ::) The time used for chatting could be used for changing the rear blind. Only takes 30 seconds to walk up, change the blind, walk back.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on June 25, 2015, 07:10:01 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 25, 2015, 01:34:27 PM
Its because the drivers havent got  time to keep changing the blinds!

Drivers used to do it on Metrobuses on the 128 & 129
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 25, 2015, 08:51:05 PM
Have seen it on the old 370 / 371 in Walsall, even on the side blinds!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on June 25, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
On the main site @Tony put pics of some of walsall platinums at falkirk. They look good, wonder what colour the branding will be. Im thinking a sky blue for X51 and maybe a red branding for the 934/5/6?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on June 25, 2015, 11:24:23 PM
wow i can't wait to see them in person, in walsall town centre.

What route/routes will be 1st with getting them?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on June 25, 2015, 11:39:32 PM
Quote from: Chris on June 25, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
On the main site @Tony put pics of some of walsall platinums at falkirk. They look good, wonder what colour the branding will be. Im thinking a sky blue for X51 and maybe a red branding for the 934/5/6?

On MMC deliveries they have kept the same branding colours so far on the 50, 900 and 957 so I wonder whether 934/5/6 will stay green? This will be the third style of branding the 935 has had in only 4 years (short lived orange branding before the current one).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on June 25, 2015, 11:56:39 PM
Quote from: Mike K on June 25, 2015, 11:39:32 PM
On MMC deliveries they have kept the same branding colours so far on the 50, 900 and 957 so I wonder whether 934/5/6 will stay green? This will be the third style of branding the 935 has had in only 4 years (short lived orange branding before the current one).

I remember the orange one. Maybe a yellow branding of some sort? Red for 997?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 26, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Well, the X51's branding was similar to the 51 blue and the 93x similar to the 33 green, which made sense.
But as it all seems to be an interworking nightmare at the moment I'd actually put money on lumping them all together in one "express" brand
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: arrifirststage on June 26, 2015, 09:29:24 AM
Quote from: Kevin on June 26, 2015, 07:54:44 AM
Well, the X51's branding was similar to the 51 blue and the 93x similar to the 33 green, which made sense.
But as it all seems to be an interworking nightmare at the moment I'd actually put money on lumping them all together in one "express" brand
As usual,there seems to be more discussion and energy spent on branding suggestions.
A better idea is to scrap all branding ,put the fleet into one livery and use the resources saved into improving important things.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 26, 2015, 09:30:38 AM
As it stands everything inter works with each other including normal 51!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on June 26, 2015, 10:35:40 AM
Routes inter working blind changes back in 98-00 at hockley garage the union  and the then management came to an agreement for the 128/129 where the driverscould just blank the rear blind off rather than just leave 12 8 and 9 in between, personally I hated changing the rear blind asking people to move.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 26, 2015, 02:23:47 PM
4864 just passed me on the A4124 Lichfield Rd with an engineer driving. It pulled out of Linthouse Lane so i presume it had visited Park Lane depot.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 26, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
About 5 or 6 platinums now been delivered to Walsall! Presuming tony will have pics up imminently!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on June 26, 2015, 10:34:48 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 26, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
About 5 or 6 platinums now been delivered to Walsall! Presuming tony will have pics up imminently!
@BU07 LGO - Well, judging by what's on the main site tonight, with no 'courtesy of' photos, I'm guessing Tony's a bit further north than Walsall, at the moment. lol  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 26, 2015, 10:35:15 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 26, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
About 5 or 6 platinums now been delivered to Walsall! Presuming tony will have pics up imminently!

And don't expect any more for three weeks. There is nothing wrong and the break is planned. The Falkirk plant still has a fortnight 'industrial holiday break' so production stops, although conspiracy theorists and ill-informed will no doubt think that there is something delaying them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 26, 2015, 10:36:46 PM
Quote from: clayderman on June 26, 2015, 10:34:48 PM
@BU07 LGO - Well, judging by what's on the main site tonight, with no 'courtesy of' photos, I'm guessing Tony's a bit further north than Walsall.

No, those photos were dated yesterday, the photo of the Farid white coach is the one dated today, parked outside 1 lancaster Circus where I work
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on June 26, 2015, 10:41:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 26, 2015, 10:36:46 PM
No, those photos were dated yesterday, the photo of the Farid white coach is the one dated today, parked outside 1 lancaster Circus where I work
Apologies for not checking the date stamp. Any reason why they wasn't place in the correct date? It looks like the main site could've accommodated for another three photos... ???

On the other hand, they are great photos. It gives us an insight to what bus manufacturers look like from the inside.  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 26, 2015, 10:43:45 PM
Quote from: clayderman on June 26, 2015, 10:41:02 PM
Apologies for not checking the date stamp. Any reason why they wasn't place in the correct date? It looks like the main site could've accommodated for another three photos... ???

On the other hand, they are great photos. It gives us an insight to what bus manufacturers look like from the inside.

Perhaps it was because I had been to Falkirk on a day trip and was tired when I got home and couldn't be bothered to put every photo taken on!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on June 27, 2015, 09:33:48 AM
Tony: great shots from ADL,s Falkirk factory, are  the chassis still built in Guildford at the Dennis plant or has everything been intregated at Falkirk and Scarborough sites.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 27, 2015, 10:23:36 AM
Quote from: 2900 on June 27, 2015, 09:33:48 AM
Tony: great shots from ADL,s Falkirk factory, are  the chassis still built in Guildford at the Dennis plant or has everything been intregated at Falkirk dand Scarborough sites.

Mostly Guildford, but they have got a chassis assembly shop at Falkirk
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on June 27, 2015, 02:04:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2015, 10:23:36 AM
Mostly Guildford, but they have got a chassis assembly shop at Falkirk
I don't fancy travelling on 6729/34/46 as their bodies are missing vital bits especially 6734 & 6746 at the moment ;D ;). It's nice to see pictures of how the buses are built. I gather Falkirk is a massive factory judging by the pictures. Be nice to see them on the road in Walsall/Brum when completed & delivered after the 2 week break at ADL
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 27, 2015, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 26, 2015, 09:44:35 PM
About 5 or 6 platinums now been delivered to Walsall! Presuming tony will have pics up imminently!

Only four of them arrived, 6719-22
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 27, 2015, 10:25:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2015, 08:06:19 PM
Only four of them arrived, 6719-22

I had a little look inside, they look much better in person. The new car/bus smell is soo strong!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on June 28, 2015, 04:52:40 PM
Just looked at lynx1103's pic of 4763. What's happening with 2685? It's looking a bit sorry for itself.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 28, 2015, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 27, 2015, 10:25:17 PM
I had a little look inside, they look much better in person. The new car/bus smell is soo strong!

It's strong in the 200s too! I had a in depth look at one today, was going to take pictures of the interior for @Liberator9 but I didn't have enough time. They've got two seats behind the driver like the Scanias, but the passengers can't see the driver so that's good!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on June 28, 2015, 08:04:30 PM
@MW

Thanks for thinking about doing that - don't worry, can wait till they come out in service  :) Bet the drivers are pleased about that - that's the one thing I wouldn't like about Scanias if I was a driver is the partial transparent cab wall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on June 28, 2015, 10:53:01 PM
If your doing nothing wrong why a problem with passengers seeing you. They can all see you through the interior mirror anyway
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on June 28, 2015, 10:55:58 PM
Quote from: MW on June 28, 2015, 07:58:42 PM
It's strong in the 200s too! I had a in depth look at one today, was going to take pictures of the interior for @Liberator9 but I didn't have enough time. They've got two seats behind the driver like the Scanias, but the passengers can't see the driver so that's good!

I used to try to see the driver ! I was intrigued on how the driver drove the bus although it makes for quite the awkward ride, the passengers behind must have been thinking "What is this fool doing" ! You can imagine my joy when I seen the seats for the Enviro 400s !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 28, 2015, 11:36:38 PM
Quote from: andyr on June 28, 2015, 10:53:01 PM
If your doing nothing wrong why a problem with passengers seeing you. They can all see you through the interior mirror anyway

Because I don't like being watched whilst working.

It's just personal preference. It's like having CCTV in your living room fed to, say the Council/Police.

It's not about doing something wrong or having something to hide, it's just don't watch me.

That's my personal view anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 29, 2015, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: MW on June 28, 2015, 11:36:38 PM
Because I don't like being watched whilst working.

It's just personal preference. It's like having CCTV in your living room fed to, say the Council/Police.

It's not about doing something wrong or having something to hide, it's just don't watch me.

That's my personal view anyway.

The problem these days is that the E400s, B7Rles etc all have seats at the very front from which the driver can be viewed. Unfortunately there isn't much that can be done about it, it similar to the old DMUs on the railway. However, in that case, a driver could choose whether to drop the blind behind him, or all the blinds in his cab if he didn't want to be watched.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on June 29, 2015, 12:20:55 AM
Seats at the front are nothing new. Fleetlines, lynxes, nationals all had seats at the front facing the driver. And as a child they were always one of the best places to sit. Watching the driver changing gears on the Fleetlines always fascinated me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 29, 2015, 12:33:01 AM
Quote from: Gareth on June 29, 2015, 12:20:55 AM
Seats at the front are nothing new. Fleetlines, lynxes, nationals all had seats at the front facing the driver. And as a child they were always one of the best places to sit. Watching the driver changing gears on the Fleetlines always fascinated me.

Oh yes happy memories of the fleetlines. Used to enjoy sitting on the D9s and watching the driver through the side window, brilliant.

I personally don't think drivers should worry about passengers watching them!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 29, 2015, 07:36:04 AM
Driver of 4863 on 51 out of town ~7:30 this morning was wearing a suit. In readiness for Platinum services per chance?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 29, 2015, 11:02:56 AM
Quote from: Kevin on June 29, 2015, 07:36:04 AM
Driver of 4863 on 51 out of town ~7:30 this morning was wearing a suit. In readiness for Platinum services per chance?

A few of the older drivers wear them anyway, the 51 drivers aren't been given platinum uniform as they won't be on them unless they do overtime, which apparently they are keeping a spare jacket at the garage for!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on June 29, 2015, 11:14:23 AM
One size fits all type of jacket, NICE
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 29, 2015, 11:43:40 AM
Quote from: 2900 on June 29, 2015, 11:14:23 AM
One size fits all type of jacket, NICE

Can imagine that will go down well lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 29, 2015, 12:12:08 PM
In the book 'Silence of Trolleybuses' by Robert Jowitt there is a photo taken in Walsall bus station circa 1964, showing two trolley bus crews. One driver looks like a Teddy boy and both conductors have their Setright ticket machines hanging off their hips in the usual Walsall manner. The caption? 'Walsall crews far from immaculate'!  It was ever thus... At least until Platinum.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 29, 2015, 12:48:35 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 29, 2015, 11:02:56 AM
A few of the older drivers wear them anyway, the 51 drivers aren't been given platinum uniform as they won't be on them unless they do overtime, which apparently they are keeping a spare jacket at the garage for!!

Yeah I get that, well used to some of the older drivers dressing smarter, christ they've always been like that I remember them going to school.
But this guy was younger. I dunno. Maybe his personal preference I just figured with Platinum buses en route soon etc...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 29, 2015, 02:12:11 PM
Did it say platinum on it?

Luckily mine hasn't turned up yet :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on July 01, 2015, 11:27:01 AM
Have not seen any B10Ls today.  Did they finish on the 30th?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 01, 2015, 11:28:48 AM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on July 01, 2015, 11:27:01 AM
Have not seen any B10Ls today.  Did they finish on the 30th?

Yes, 1446 left Wolverhampton on the 39 not long ago.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on July 01, 2015, 12:47:26 PM
1421 is on the 4. Left walsall 5/10 mins ago.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on July 01, 2015, 03:37:35 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on June 29, 2015, 12:12:08 PM
In the book 'Silence of Trolleybuses' by Robert Jowitt there is a photo taken in Walsall bus station circa 1964, showing two trolley bus crews. One driver looks like a Teddy boy and both conductors have their Setright ticket machines hanging off their hips in the usual Walsall manner. The caption? 'Walsall crews far from immaculate'!  It was ever thus... At least until Platinum.

Far from immaculate? Haha
You should see the drivers uniform standards today!
I think they should reinstate the mirrors in the corridors at BC and YW..,
"Clean shaven
Combed hair
Tie
Brushed jacket
Tucked in shirt
Polished shoes"
I think certain staff will benefit.

Although thinking about it, I didn't much care for the uniform either in my day. Can't blame them, when most the stuff doesn't even fit, and the shirts are more like tents! Its as if they expect all drivers to be portly so they give a wider waist on the shirts.. Pah, time for some tailoring for some lads methinks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on July 01, 2015, 06:07:30 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 01, 2015, 03:37:35 PM
Far from immaculate? Haha
You should see the drivers uniform standards today!
I think they should reinstate the mirrors in the corridors at BC and YW..,
"Clean shaven
Combed hair
Tie
Brushed jacket
Tucked in shirt
Polished shoes"
I think certain staff will benefit.

Although thinking about it, I didn't much care for the uniform either in my day. Can't blame them, when most the stuff doesn't even fit, and the shirts are more like tents! Its as if they expect all drivers to be portly so they give a wider waist on the shirts.. Pah, time for some tailoring for some lads methinks.

YW and AG have those mirrors, or at least 1 anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on July 01, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
Quote from: MW on July 01, 2015, 06:07:30 PM
YW and AG have those mirrors, or at least 1 anyway.

I doubt if Walsall ever had such a thing, or Wolverhampton for that matter!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 01, 2015, 07:28:23 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on July 01, 2015, 07:18:50 PM
I doubt if Walsall ever had such a thing, or Wolverhampton for that matter!

No, they are a Birmingham City Transport thing, All BCT garage have/had them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 01, 2015, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on July 01, 2015, 03:37:35 PM
Far from immaculate? Haha
You should see the drivers uniform standards today!
I think they should reinstate the mirrors in the corridors at BC and YW..,
"Clean shaven
Combed hair
Tie
Brushed jacket
Tucked in shirt
Polished shoes"
I think certain staff will benefit.

Although thinking about it, I didn't much care for the uniform either in my day. Can't blame them, when most the stuff doesn't even fit, and the shirts are more like tents! Its as if they expect all drivers to be portly so they give a wider waist on the shirts.. Pah, time for some tailoring for some lads methinks.

I let all appearance go today, I was literally dying in that cab! Had fans on full which just seemed to blow warm air at me and shirt untucked and half unbuttoned haha
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on July 02, 2015, 10:41:23 AM
On a day as hot and humid as the 1st of July screw the uniform its stifling in the cab of a Gemini all fans blew out warm air come winter it,ll be cold as usual.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on July 02, 2015, 02:07:35 PM
Quote from: 2900 on July 02, 2015, 10:41:23 AM
On a day as hot and humid as the 1st of July screw the uniform its stifling in the cab of a Gemini all fans blew out warm air come winter it,ll be cold as usual.

Something that worked in 4661, (which doesn't have the add on fan thing), just leave the window open then every few minutes blast the built in fans to cold and they blew cold air for around a minute. Then switch off again and keep doing its every so often, it was nice lol. If you just left it on it got warm after at most a minute.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 02, 2015, 08:42:48 PM
any ideas what timings board 4/01 does from Halesowen on 4H?
Where were b10s today?

Thankyou
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on July 02, 2015, 08:44:38 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 02, 2015, 08:42:48 PM
any ideas what timings board 4/01 does from Halesowen on 4H?
Where were b10s today?

Thankyou

1475 was on the 40/41 today, hadn't seen any others, though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on July 02, 2015, 08:56:14 PM
1447 was on 40/1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 02, 2015, 09:09:25 PM
1436, 1446, 1447, 1475 were on WA 40/41 today. I haven't seen 1421 but it was reported 1421 was on WA 38.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 03, 2015, 11:36:54 AM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on July 03, 2015, 10:51:47 AM
4729-YW3
4330-WA935
4491-PB33
4872/4875-WA997

Enviro400s on the 997 are usual
So are Tridents on the 93* services (until MMCs are in service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 03, 2015, 06:00:25 PM
What are the changes to the Cannock end of the X51 later this month?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 06, 2015, 10:30:02 AM
@Michael Bevan what time did you see 4536 and where?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Cheese on July 06, 2015, 10:33:46 AM
Quote from: Bob on July 03, 2015, 06:00:25 PM
What are the changes to the Cannock end of the X51 later this month?

Slight timetable changes on the AM peak journeys, nothing else.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 06, 2015, 01:27:38 PM
Don't think it has been mentioned, but 4877 is now de-branded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 06, 2015, 01:35:45 PM
Quote from: John on July 06, 2015, 01:27:38 PM
Don't think it has been mentioned, but 4877 is now de-branded

Just 3 still branded, 4879; 4882; 4883 until next weekend
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 06, 2015, 04:23:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2015, 01:35:45 PM
Just 3 still branded, 4879; 4882; 4883 until next weekend

Hopefully they put loads of tridents and b7 alx out on the streetlys route before the platinums come out :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on July 06, 2015, 04:48:06 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 06, 2015, 04:23:12 PM
Hopefully they put loads of tridents and b7 alx out on the streetlys route before the platinums come out :)

People will be sitting their thinking their both the same type of vehicle (Little do they know) and they'll mistake a B7TL ALX400 for a Trident (I used to be the same)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on July 07, 2015, 08:30:29 AM
I know I've mentioned this before, but does anyone else think it would be a good idea if one of Walsall's Platinum was named after R. Edgley Cox, last general manager of Walsall Corporation Transport? 
Who makes these decisions and could take a suggestion?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on July 07, 2015, 07:51:38 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on July 07, 2015, 08:30:29 AM
I know I've mentioned this before, but does anyone else think it would be a good idea if one of Walsall's Platinum was named after R. Edgley Cox, last general manager of Walsall Corporation Transport? 
Who makes these decisions and could take a suggestion?

Agreed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 08, 2015, 07:08:56 AM
1421 on Darlaston rota so far this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 08, 2015, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 08, 2015, 07:08:56 AM
1421 on Darlaston rota so far this morning.

In case anyone is interested - 1421 will depart Wolverhampton Bus Station on the 39 at 11:35. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on July 08, 2015, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on July 07, 2015, 08:30:29 AM
I know I've mentioned this before, but does anyone else think it would be a good idea if one of Walsall's Platinum was named after R. Edgley Cox, last general manager of Walsall Corporation Transport? 
Who makes these decisions and could take a suggestion?
I second that! Mr Edgley Cox should be honoured as I mentioned before in the Preserved Buses thread
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 08, 2015, 05:16:23 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 08, 2015, 11:34:07 AM
In case anyone is interested - 1421 will depart Wolverhampton Bus Station on the 39 at 11:35.

On 1421 at the mo after getting a lift to Darlo.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on July 12, 2015, 11:20:35 AM
6721 at AMRTM.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 12, 2015, 11:31:45 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 12, 2015, 11:20:35 AM
6721 at AMRTM.

Branded?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 12, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2015, 11:31:45 AM
Branded?

Not yet, they are being done Mon/Tue
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 12, 2015, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 12, 2015, 11:45:54 AM
Not yet, they are being done Mon/Tue

I've been told that streetly and City express are been put back into one group so will that mean a generic "birmingham-walsall" branding?


Edit: forgot about 936,935a which go to brownhills!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 12, 2015, 04:35:23 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 12, 2015, 02:41:08 PM
I've been told that streetly and City express are been put back into one group so will that mean a generic "birmingham-walsall" branding?


Edit: forgot about 936,935a which go to brownhills!

They wouldn't include 935a, as it's subsidised surely?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on July 12, 2015, 04:35:40 PM
When will the next Platinums be delivered?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 12, 2015, 05:11:36 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 12, 2015, 04:35:23 PM
They wouldn't include 935a, as it's subsidised surely?

The branding might not involve the number itself but the would say "Aldridge" and "Brownhills" for the 936 so covers the 935a journeys well enough I'd say
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on July 12, 2015, 05:16:30 PM
Having been on 6721 I must say that the new style bell is horrid. Instead of being yellow with a red button they are red with a yellow button and it does not work well IMO
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on July 12, 2015, 05:37:46 PM
I was told at Aldridge that ALL Platinum E400MMCs are now limited to 50mph, including those on the 900.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on July 12, 2015, 05:44:17 PM
It could be something like:
Fast services from Birmingham to Kingstanding, Walsall, Aldridge & Brownhills
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 12, 2015, 07:04:13 PM
1) is it mainly Volvo b7rles allocated to 311/313?
2) what routes are the high backed omnilinks allocated or is it random?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on July 12, 2015, 07:07:40 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 12, 2015, 07:04:13 PM
1) is it mainly Volvo b7rles allocated to 311/313?
2) what routes are the high backed omnilinks allocated or is it random?

1) Yes
2) I've seen a few on the 34,38,39 but I believe it is random
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 12, 2015, 07:29:08 PM
Quote from: Dom on July 12, 2015, 07:07:40 PM
1) Yes
2) I've seen a few on the 34,38,39 but I believe it is random

There was one on the 4M yesterday i do believe. Can't remember what time tho
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on July 14, 2015, 04:27:17 PM
When will 6721 receive branding?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on July 15, 2015, 01:45:38 PM
1839 on WA8/89 just left wolves
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on July 16, 2015, 04:49:08 PM
1862 doing a 4E to Oldbury from West Bromwich not sure if it's timetabled or not.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on July 16, 2015, 05:27:05 PM
1475 was on the 10 this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on July 16, 2015, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on July 15, 2015, 01:45:38 PM
1839 on WA8/89 just left wolves
On 38 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 18, 2015, 11:04:43 AM
1436 on 301's currently.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on July 18, 2015, 10:03:49 PM
4876 in Brownhills today debranded but named "Ocea", not sure if anyone has already reported this.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on July 21, 2015, 08:00:05 AM
Last night 1436 left the bus station at about 20.30 on the 29
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
4884 on the 40/1 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 23, 2015, 11:40:19 AM
1436 just passed my house towed by a Mansfield.

Was doing 301's, according to the blind.

Is that the end?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on July 23, 2015, 03:30:53 PM
@Westy Nope, 1436 is back out on 40/41's, will do the 1540 41 off Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 23, 2015, 04:26:32 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on July 14, 2015, 04:27:17 PM
When will 6721 receive branding?

Both 6721/22 have the same branding as 6701/2. (Pretty sure those two were the ones parked at the back of Walsall garage)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
Is 4306 the booked decker board on the 40E?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on July 24, 2015, 08:23:29 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
Is 4306 the booked decker board on the 40E?

Was on the 366 about two hours ago.

(the 6 for those unable to remember three digit numbers)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on July 24, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 24, 2015, 08:23:29 PM
Was on the 366 about two hours ago.

(the 6 for those unable to remember three digit numbers)

Eh? It was on the 40/41 around 3pm, unless it goes onto the 6/10 after finishing its 41 board?

@Trident 4194 4308 is the late night bus today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2015, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: Alex on July 24, 2015, 08:27:44 PM
Eh? It was on the 40/41 around 3pm, unless it goes onto the 6/10 after finishing its 41 board?

@Trident 4194 4308 is the late night bus today

Yes that was the one I was hoping to catch a b10 on. Did the 11:45 from wolves to walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 24, 2015, 08:43:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2015, 08:34:15 PM
Yes that was the one I was hoping to catch a b10 on. Did the 11:45 from wolves to walsall

The late night one is always the double deck, not a B10L
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2015, 08:46:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 24, 2015, 08:43:03 PM
The late night one is always the double deck, not a B10L

Yes i know, didn't know the timings of the decker board though, at least I know for next time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on July 26, 2015, 04:47:52 PM
1860 has (or had been, at least) parked in Merry Hill Bus Station due to the front suspension being froze in the kneeling position, and the rear suspension in the highest possible position, arrived in Merry Hill at 1255 after working a 4M, and was still there at 1514. Looked incredibly ungainly trying to maneuver into the layover point. I'll put a link to the photo when i get home.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 26, 2015, 04:57:58 PM
Quote from: Alex on July 26, 2015, 04:47:52 PM
1860 has (or had been, at least) parked in Merry Hill Bus Station due to the front suspension being froze in the kneeling position, and the rear suspension in the highest possible position, arrived in Merry Hill at 1255 after working a 4M, and was still there at 1514. Looked incredibly ungainly trying to maneuver into the layover point. I'll put a link to the photo when i get home.

Still there now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on July 26, 2015, 05:05:17 PM
Quote from: Alex on July 26, 2015, 04:47:52 PM
1860 has (or had been, at least) parked in Merry Hill Bus Station due to the front suspension being froze in the kneeling position, and the rear suspension in the highest possible position, arrived in Merry Hill at 1255 after working a 4M, and was still there at 1514. Looked incredibly ungainly trying to maneuver into the layover point. I'll put a link to the photo when i get home.
1860 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130213023@N08/19839583298/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on July 26, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
Quote from: Alex on July 26, 2015, 04:47:52 PM
1860 has (or had been, at least) parked in Merry Hill Bus Station due to the front suspension being froze in the kneeling position, and the rear suspension in the highest possible position, arrived in Merry Hill at 1255 after working a 4M, and was still there at 1514. Looked incredibly ungainly trying to maneuver into the layover point. I'll put a link to the photo when i get home.

1860 when it arrived at 12.55:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97592007@N08/19839666960/in/dateposted/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on July 26, 2015, 05:11:38 PM
Quote from: Dom on July 26, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
1860 when it arrived at 12.55:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/97592007@N08/19839666960/in/dateposted/
Not the best place to have a mechanical breakdown is it really?  Are they waiting for a tow truck to take it back to Walsall??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on July 26, 2015, 05:13:16 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on July 26, 2015, 05:11:38 PM
Not the best place to have a mechanical breakdown is it really?  Are they waiting for a tow truck to take it back to Walsall??

It didn't break down there it was just moving around to the patch but got a pic of the side to show how it was in the best possibly way. I don't know if a tow truck would work although when going over the speed bumps, the underside was hitting off of the speed bumps and had his hazards on all the way down.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on July 26, 2015, 05:15:17 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on July 26, 2015, 05:11:38 PM
Not the best place to have a mechanical breakdown is it really?  Are they waiting for a tow truck to take it back to Walsall??
If you look at my photo which was taken at 1420 it was in a space so no it did not break down on stand f
Yes i spoke to the driver of 1860 and he said he is wating for mansfield to take it away
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on July 26, 2015, 05:21:11 PM
Quote from: Dom on July 26, 2015, 05:13:16 PM
It didn't break down there it was just moving around to the patch but got a pic of the side to show how it was in the best possibly way. I don't know if a tow truck would work although when going over the speed bumps, the underside was hitting off of the speed bumps and had his hazards on all the way down.
Oh right @Dom I thought that was where its kneeling suspension had failed. Did it arrive at Merry Hill like that or did the suspension go while at Merry Hill???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on July 26, 2015, 05:23:30 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on July 26, 2015, 05:15:17 PM
If you look at my photo which was taken at 1420 it was in a space so no it did not break down on stand f
Yes i spoke to the driver of 1860 and he said he is wating for mansfield to take it away
Wasn't looking at your photo Rhys I was looking at @Dom's picture when I made my comment
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on July 26, 2015, 05:26:38 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on July 26, 2015, 05:21:11 PM
Oh right @Dom I thought that was where its kneeling suspension had failed. Did it arrive at Merry Hill like that or did the suspension go while at Merry Hill???

@Squiz1971 I think it may of been the kneeling failing although may of just f***ed the suspension. Yup arrived at merry hill like it, was like it since the boulavard. I think the small cobble island on High Street, just before you turn on to Pedmore road as there was a lound clunk from the back end although may be wrong.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on July 26, 2015, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: Dom on July 26, 2015, 05:26:38 PM
@Squiz1971 I think it may of been the kneeling failing although may of just f***ed the suspension. Yup arrived at merry hill like it, was like it since the boulavard. I think the small cobble island on High Street, just before you turn on to Pedmore road as there was a lound clunk from the back end although may be wrong.
An expensive repair methinks mate to sort the suspension out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on July 26, 2015, 06:50:34 PM
still there at 1815
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on July 26, 2015, 08:01:20 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 26, 2015, 06:50:34 PM
still there at 1815
centro won't allow tow trucks into merry hill until after 1830 now when the bus station is quieter
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on July 26, 2015, 08:31:45 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on July 26, 2015, 05:05:17 PM
1860 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130213023@N08/19839583298/in/dateposted-public/

Excellent picture Rhys - shows the problem with that bus very clearly.

If that's correct what a ludicrous rule the owners of the bus station have imposed - applying even on a Sunday? I wonder what would happen if a vehicle broke down in a position that blocked the main entry/exit!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on July 26, 2015, 08:37:34 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on July 26, 2015, 05:05:17 PM
1860 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130213023@N08/19839583298/in/dateposted-public/

I'd be quite worried about the large black thing hanging off the the rear axle on Rhys and Dom's photos. That doesn't look too cheap to repair, unless its something that i've just never noticed before on all OmniLinks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 27, 2015, 10:33:20 AM
4869 now has mega rear drive our bus ad
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on July 27, 2015, 11:41:32 AM
Quote from: Alex on July 26, 2015, 08:37:34 PM
I'd be quite worried about the large black thing hanging off the the rear axle on Rhys and Dom's photos. That doesn't look too cheap to repair, unless its something that i've just never noticed before on all OmniLinks?

Cant have been a huge problem out in service on the 4 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 27, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
@dw1308 i think you will be see any decker on the 997/934/935/936/X51s til the platinums start. I had 4301 earlier on 935 to walsall from birmingham
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 27, 2015, 04:53:31 PM
Quote from: Chris on July 27, 2015, 03:56:25 PM
@dw1308 i think you will be see any decker on the 997/934/935/936/X51s til the platinums start. I had 4301 earlier on 935 to walsall from birmingham

You do see any Decker on those services at present. 2 ALX400s and at least 2 Geminis on the X51/997s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on July 27, 2015, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: John on July 27, 2015, 04:53:31 PM
You do see any Decker on those services at present. 2 ALX400s and at least 2 Geminis on the X51/997s

At least 2 E400's on there as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on July 27, 2015, 05:02:13 PM
Quote from: John on July 27, 2015, 04:53:31 PM
You do see any Decker on those services at present. 2 ALX400s and at least 2 Geminis on the X51/997s

WA have obviously already lost the 7 x DP Gemini's to Dundee (4680-86) from the X51

3 x DP E400's to CV (4763/4/6) with 2 x DP E400's in the paintshop en-route to NXC (4767/71) from the 997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on July 27, 2015, 07:14:33 PM
When did 4767 go in?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on July 27, 2015, 07:23:26 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on July 27, 2015, 07:14:33 PM
When did 4767 go in?

Does this help?
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=3492.msg152340#msg152340
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2015, 07:24:19 PM
4774 now in as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 27, 2015, 07:25:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 27, 2015, 07:24:19 PM
4774 now in as well

Looks like I'm never going to get a leather seated e400 ever again
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on July 27, 2015, 07:28:00 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 27, 2015, 07:25:54 PM
Looks like I'm never going to get a leather seated e400 ever again

4775 is/was out today on the X51, so still a chance but act quickly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on July 27, 2015, 07:35:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 27, 2015, 07:25:54 PM
Looks like I'm never going to get a leather seated e400 ever again

There's always the ones on the 900/957? I was having a look at one today actually, at Solihull Station. Very nice interior they've got, I've not experienced one before, just seen the pictures!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on July 27, 2015, 07:43:40 PM
So 4763/4/6/7/71/74 in now? Also is 4774 being repainted into Coventry colours?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 27, 2015, 07:46:43 PM
Quote from: MW on July 27, 2015, 07:35:15 PM
There's always the ones on the 900/957? I was having a look at one today actually, at Solihull Station. Very nice interior they've got, I've not experienced one before, just seen the pictures!

There not fully leather though, should have acted sooner.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on July 27, 2015, 07:52:13 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 27, 2015, 07:46:43 PM
There not fully leather though, should have acted sooner.
there are always diamonds
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on July 27, 2015, 10:06:47 PM
Prefer having the part leather seats the Platinums have - never been struck on all leather bus seats - tend to "slide" on sharp corners!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 28, 2015, 04:54:03 AM
Has it been confirmed where the ex997 ones are going because so far it's only the ex Pb that have gone to cv?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on July 28, 2015, 07:54:32 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 28, 2015, 04:54:03 AM
Has it been confirmed where the ex997 ones are going because so far it's only the ex Pb that have gone to cv?

IIRC they are going to Coventry hence the retrim and repaint
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 28, 2015, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 28, 2015, 04:54:03 AM
Has it been confirmed where the ex997 ones are going because so far it's only the ex Pb that have gone to cv?

4771 is off to CV so that is at least one ex 997 E400....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 28, 2015, 09:21:44 AM
For anyone interested, 4869 also has a recruitment mega rear like 4933 and 4913
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 28, 2015, 03:18:17 PM
Quote from: John on July 28, 2015, 09:21:44 AM
For anyone interested, 4869 also has a recruitment mega rear like 4933 and 4913

I posted on the last page ;) it was on streetly (934/5/6) yesterday and 51 I think today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 28, 2015, 03:20:48 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 28, 2015, 03:18:17 PM
I posted on the last page ;) it was on streetly (934/5/6) yesterday and 51 I think today?

So you did, sorry!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on July 31, 2015, 12:57:41 PM
Driver of 4527 has got a football shirt on! Found it funny.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 31, 2015, 01:31:47 PM
None uniform today at walsall to raise money for acorns

£1 each
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 31, 2015, 05:18:56 PM
17 mins for a 311/313 at Wednesbury Parkway!

Been here at least 10 so far, maybe more!

Edit : now arrived 1740.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 31, 2015, 10:13:20 PM
The newest pic of 4300, seems like someone being playing with the blinds. It says 311 Dudley via Wednesbury. Are the alx 400 b7tls due to be allocated to 311/313 when the b7lres go to dundee...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 31, 2015, 10:41:15 PM
are all the b7rles going to Dundee? whatll replace them?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on August 01, 2015, 06:15:31 PM
I had a great driver on 4775 earlier (1603 x51 Scott arms WA bound.). Called out what stop we was at and very friendly. A credit to nxwm!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on August 01, 2015, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 31, 2015, 01:31:47 PM
None uniform today at walsall to raise money for acorns

£1 each
I heard later on. What a good thing to do!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 02, 2015, 12:51:25 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 31, 2015, 10:41:15 PM
are all the b7rles going to Dundee? whatll replace them?
AG Scania's I think when the E200MMC's are fully delivered. Only so many 56 plates are going to Dundee check the Repaints thread for more details @Bob
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 02, 2015, 04:10:31 PM
Latest news is x51 and 997 to be platinum from 10th whilst 934/5/6 will be september
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 02, 2015, 06:51:39 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 02, 2015, 04:10:31 PM
Latest news is x51 and 997 to be platinum from 10th whilst 934/5/6 will be september
I thought 934/5/6 along with X51 & 997 were going to all be out 10 august be I take it al the buses haven't come down yet for the services
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 02, 2015, 08:02:49 PM
Four Volvo B10s lined up last night, but all very different!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on August 02, 2015, 08:51:01 PM
6729's branding looks nice. Though, with that "splash" styled branding, in red, I might add, I would've thought the frequency circle and desination halo would've matched it... Nevertheless, it looks nice, and I guess it keeps consistency to the 900/957 branding. Also, I've noticed the outline of the 'splash' branding is the Birmingham skyline. Nice touch.  :P

Edit: Edit made to fleetnumber, now corrected, but I had 6029 written before.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 02, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
Quote from: clayderman on August 02, 2015, 08:51:01 PM
6029's branding looks nice. Though, with that "splash" styled branding, in red, I might add, I would've thought the frequency circle and desination halo would've matched it... Nevertheless, it looks nice, and I guess it keeps consistency to the 900/957 branding.
Don't U mean 6729 as 6029 is a Scania bendibus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on August 02, 2015, 09:27:16 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 02, 2015, 09:03:56 PM
Don't U mean 6729 as 6029 is a Scania bendibus
Yeah... lol! That's what happens when you type too fast on your phone!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 03, 2015, 09:06:49 AM
What are the chances of finding a leather enviro on x51? Which ones are still out?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 03, 2015, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 03, 2015, 09:06:49 AM
What are the chances of finding a leather enviro on x51? Which ones are still out?

You will get one eventuLly, Saturday the 997/x51 was mostly gemini lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 03, 2015, 12:48:30 PM
Quote from: clayderman on August 02, 2015, 09:27:16 PM
Yeah... lol! That's what happens when you type too fast on your phone!
that's no excuse lol. I agree the halo should be red really but if U look at the bus to 6729's right it has green 997 route branding on the rear
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on August 03, 2015, 01:04:39 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 03, 2015, 09:11:19 AM
You will get one eventuLly, Saturday the 997/x51 was mostly gemini lol

There was 2 or three on there Saturday (4775 I know was one of them)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on August 03, 2015, 01:16:43 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 03, 2015, 09:06:49 AM
What are the chances of finding a leather enviro on x51? Which ones are still out?

4765/68/69/70/72/73/75/76
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 03, 2015, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 03, 2015, 01:16:43 PM
4765/68/69/70/72/73/75/76

4776 is not leather though. Re-trimmed with the grey dot moquette
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2015, 07:31:06 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 03, 2015, 01:16:43 PM
4765/68/69/70/72/73/75/76

All of which, except 4776 will be taken into the paintshop as soon as slots are available, so get them while you can
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 03, 2015, 07:39:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 03, 2015, 07:31:06 PM
All of which, except 4776 will be taken into the paintshop as soon as slots are available, so get them while you can
which livery nxc or crimson?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on August 03, 2015, 07:44:49 PM
Quote from: clayderman on August 02, 2015, 08:51:01 PM
6729's branding looks nice. Though, with that "splash" styled branding, in red, I might add, I would've thought the frequency circle and desination halo would've matched it... Nevertheless, it looks nice, and I guess it keeps consistency to the 900/957 branding. Also, I've noticed the outline of the 'splash' branding is the Birmingham skyline. Nice touch.  :P

Edit: Edit made to fleetnumber, now corrected, but I had 6029 written before.

I hadn't realised that was the Birmingham skyline - at first glance it looked as though someone had hurled a tin of red paint at the side of the bus. Is this 997 branding or generic X51/997 branding? I can see the 997 on the rear of the bus next to it but can't see any service numbers on 6729.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 03, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
Some have 997 on and some have x51 but as they both inter work I can only assume it's just an advert for the route with some advertising x51 and some 997.

The 934/5/6 are now apparently not been converted until September and I would imagine these will have adverts for each route on different buses?

The main branding on the side just says fast to Birmingham with no reference to walsall which would suggest the 934/5/6 will use the same buses as 997/x51 (936 to brownhills)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 03, 2015, 07:57:46 PM
Some have 997 on and some have x51 but as they both inter work I can only assume it's just an advert for the route with some advertising x51 and some 997.

The 934/5/6 are now apparently not been converted until September and I would imagine these will have adverts for each route on different buses?

The main branding on the side just says fast to Birmingham with no reference to walsall which would suggest the 934/5/6 will use the same buses as 997/x51 (936 to brownhills)

6723-40 will have this branding for the X51/997
6741-54 will have different branding for the 934/5/6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 03, 2015, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 03, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
6723-40 will have this branding for the X51/997
6741-54 will have different branding for the 934/5/6

That's good, is it true they aren't due until September for streetly?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2015, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 03, 2015, 08:06:27 PM
That's good, is it true they aren't due until September for streetly?

They will carry on arriving at around four per week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on August 03, 2015, 08:20:46 PM
Quote from: Mike K on August 03, 2015, 07:44:49 PM
I hadn't realised that was the Birmingham skyline - at first glance it looked as though someone had hurled a tin of red paint at the side of the bus. Is this 997 branding or generic X51/997 branding? I can see the 997 on the rear of the bus next to it but can't see any service numbers on 6729.
So did I! I first saw it from my phone, but later opened it up on my computer for closer inspection... That's when I noticed the Selfridges building, with, what I believe resembles, St Martins Church next to it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 05, 2015, 12:39:20 PM
One of WA's Platinum MMC's in Wolverhampton this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 05, 2015, 01:20:43 PM
Can anyone tell me if the decker board is the 10:55 40 exiting Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 05, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
So is it confirmed that 997/X51 are to be Platinum from Monday 10th August?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 05, 2015, 02:22:43 PM
Which Enviro 400s are to be transferred from Walsall-Birmingham Central? 4869-4884?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 05, 2015, 02:28:35 PM
Once the platinums have all arrived at walsall whats the odds one might stray onto other WA routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 05, 2015, 02:35:59 PM
Quote from: Chris on August 05, 2015, 02:28:35 PM
Once the platinums have all arrived at walsall whats the odds one might stray onto other WA routes

0% Just like BC
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 05, 2015, 02:48:08 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 05, 2015, 02:35:59 PM
0% Just like BC

But didn't one of BCs do a 9 and school run?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 05, 2015, 02:58:02 PM
Quote from: Chris on August 05, 2015, 02:48:08 PM
But didn't one of BCs do a 9 and school run?

Yes because its on a 900 board.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 05, 2015, 03:23:36 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 05, 2015, 02:58:02 PM
Yes because its on a 900 board.

Is it? That's news to me......


Thought it did the 9/829 then dead back to depot.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 05, 2015, 03:28:58 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 05, 2015, 03:23:36 PM
Is it? That's news to me......


Thought it did the 9/829 then dead back to depot.

Thats what I was thinking. I was aware it's a journey to Halesowen, then the school run but I also read somewhere it runs back to depot after. Aren't their two of these 9E journeys ?!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 05, 2015, 04:36:47 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 05, 2015, 03:23:36 PM
Is it? That's news to me......


Thought it did the 9/829 then dead back to depot.

@Nathan I am sure it does the 9, then 829, then empty to Quinton for a 9E to City.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 05, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
Quote from: BusFan on August 05, 2015, 03:28:58 PM
Thats what I was thinking. I was aware it's a journey to Halesowen, then the school run but I also read somewhere it runs back to depot after. Aren't their two of these 9E journeys ?!
There are 2 9E journeys to Halesowen wich then both do the 829 school service then 2 9 journeys from Quinton church.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 05, 2015, 05:21:53 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 05, 2015, 04:36:47 PM
@Nathan I am sure it does the 9, then 829, then empty to Quinton for a 9E to City.

I knew the trips but thanks anyway :) I was just making a ppint that it has nothing to do with the 900
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 07, 2015, 07:40:51 PM
6721 was in Hatherton Rd this afternoon with 'Staff Bus' displayed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on August 07, 2015, 07:41:46 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 07, 2015, 07:40:51 PM
6721 was in Hatherton Rd this afternoon with 'Staff Bus' displayed.
Photoed it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 07, 2015, 07:47:37 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 07, 2015, 07:40:51 PM
6721 was in Hatherton Rd this afternoon with 'Staff Bus' displayed.

Final day of type training it also did a run of 997 route out of service

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on August 07, 2015, 07:57:16 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 05, 2015, 02:18:29 PM
So is it confirmed that 997/X51 are to be Platinum from Monday 10th August?

Seems like it:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/welcome-to-platinum/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 07, 2015, 08:02:05 PM
Quote from: AV4248 on August 07, 2015, 07:57:16 PM
Seems like it:
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/welcome-to-platinum/

Walsall told me they may put them out on Sunday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 08, 2015, 08:58:23 AM
Garage is now absolutely full of platinums
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on August 08, 2015, 11:56:59 AM
Maybe it'll be the last day to ride a leather seats environment 47xx series
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 08, 2015, 12:00:42 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on August 08, 2015, 11:56:59 AM
Maybe it'll be the last day to ride a leather seats environment 47xx series

I would expect there to be a fair few cascades centred around WA during the course of the next week or so with Platinum's 6719-6727 & 6729-31 all due to enter service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on August 08, 2015, 12:06:58 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 08, 2015, 12:00:42 PM
I would expect there to be a fair few cascades centred around WA during the course of the next week or so with Platinum's 6719-6727 & 6729-31 all due to enter service

I wonder if at least some of the cascades may be delayed a few weeks until after V Fest?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 08, 2015, 12:22:31 PM
Quote from: notepanel on August 08, 2015, 12:06:58 PM
I wonder if at least some of the cascades may be delayed a few weeks until after V Fest?

V Festival buses normally come from existing resources with it being over a weekend / whilst reduced summer timetables are in operation.

There may be further WA B7RLE & DP E400 released for refurb for Dundee & Coventry respectively, which may delay the cascade process a little
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2015, 12:27:17 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 08, 2015, 12:00:42 PM
I would expect there to be a fair few cascades centred around WA during the course of the next week or so with Platinum's 6719-6727 & 6729-31 all due to enter service

Strangely enough, no. All the buses coming off are going to either Coventry or Dundee so are just being parked up waiting their turn in the paint shop
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 08, 2015, 01:41:46 PM
And the B10Ls?   1436 and 1447 at least are on the 40/41 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 08, 2015, 01:48:22 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 08, 2015, 01:41:46 PM
And the B10Ls?   1436 and 1447 at least are on the 40/41 today.

1475 is on it as well. I haven't seen all of the 40/41 buses yet.

1446 on 40/41, too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 08, 2015, 01:41:46 PM
And the B10Ls?   1436 and 1447 at least are on the 40/41 today.

No, B10Ls staying for another month
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 08, 2015, 03:07:25 PM
Been told 4733-4737 are going to cv too? And 45xx geminis also going to Dundee?

Not sure if there's any truth to this?

I had to take 4765 back up to garage last night and was told to park it by paint shop so not sure if that's gone in?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2015, 03:17:45 PM
Walsall not sending Platinums out tomorrow now, the bus allocation sheets have just been changed. Any remaining buses in the 1774-1786 range will be parked up tomorrow and not used again. Any buses in the 4763-4775 range will be parked up, but are initially keeping ticket machines in, just in case of any problems. All will go into the paintshop as soon as there is the capacity to take them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 08, 2015, 04:36:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2015, 02:32:55 PM
No, B10Ls staying for another month

Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 08, 2015, 06:15:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2015, 03:17:45 PM
Walsall not sending Platinums out tomorrow now, the bus allocation sheets have just been changed. Any remaining buses in the 1774-1786 range will be parked up tomorrow and not used again. Any buses in the 4763-4775 range will be parked up, but are initially keeping ticket machines in, just in case of any problems. All will go into the paintshop as soon as there is the capacity to take them

Has tomorrows allocation been decided yet? I've got a 5.30am start was hoping to get the first platinum :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 08, 2015, 06:15:34 PM
Has tomorrows allocation been decided yet? I've got a 5.30am start was hoping to get the first platinum :(

Yes, I was in the engineers office earlier, they have crossed out all the 'platinums' in the vehicle type on tomorrows sheet. There should be 15 Platinums out on Monday, first ones at Walsall into service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 08, 2015, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
Yes, I was in the engineers office earlier, they have crossed out all the 'platinums' in the vehicle type on tomorrows sheet. There should be 15 Platinums out on Monday, first ones at Walsall into service
Do you know wich other ones have been delivered yet the main site says only 12 of them are currently here.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 08, 2015, 06:44:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2015, 06:24:23 PM
Yes, I was in the engineers office earlier, they have crossed out all the 'platinums' in the vehicle type on tomorrows sheet. There should be 15 Platinums out on Monday, first ones at Walsall into service

Don't suppose you could tell me whats on 934/03 tomorrow :)?

Will Mondays platinums all be for x51/997 or any on 934/5/6?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 08, 2015, 07:05:50 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 08, 2015, 06:44:23 PM
Don't suppose you could tell me whats on 934/03 tomorrow :)?

Will Mondays platinums all be for x51/997 or any on 934/5/6?

The NX website says it is just the X51 and 997 for now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 08, 2015, 07:16:27 PM
Quote from: Stu on August 08, 2015, 07:05:50 PM
The NX website says it is just the X51 and 997 for now.

I know, but seeing how many was at garage today there looked like loads!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2015, 07:26:45 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 08, 2015, 07:16:27 PM
I know, but seeing how many was at garage today there looked like loads!

The first three for the 934/5/6 have arrived (6743-5), see photos on main site. They won't be branded until Thursday, so if those three do go out they can go on the 997/X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on August 09, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
Re the X51 / 997 branding, from what I can tell its exactly the same apart from the rear of the bus having X51 or 997 on it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 09, 2015, 02:25:01 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on August 09, 2015, 01:41:05 PM
Re the X51 / 997 branding, from what I can tell its exactly the same apart from the rear of the bus having X51 or 997 on it?

They both interwork anyway so its more of an advert displaying where the route goes than what route the bus is on
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on August 09, 2015, 05:19:43 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 09, 2015, 02:25:01 PM
They both interwork anyway so its more of an advert displaying where the route goes than what route the bus is on


Is it possible with the pending timetable changes they won't inter work
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2015, 05:43:54 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on August 09, 2015, 05:19:43 PM

Is it possible with the pending timetable changes they won't inter work

They are going to interwork. At the moment there are 13 vehicles looking like they will be out tomorrow
6719-23/5-31/4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 09, 2015, 06:44:08 PM
hopefulyy I get a few tridents before 934/5/6 go platinum!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 09, 2015, 09:40:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 09, 2015, 05:43:54 PM
They are going to interwork. At the moment there are 13 vehicles looking like they will be out tomorrow
6719-23/5-31/4

Don't suppose you know whether any of them are on the 2nd journey from Cannock tomorrow morning?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 09, 2015, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 09, 2015, 09:40:55 PM
Don't suppose you know whether any of them are on the 2nd journey from Cannock tomorrow morning?

It stands a good chance as that board stays out until after midnight
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 09, 2015, 10:12:24 PM
Would be nice to see an hourly extension throughout the day of the X51, taking on arriva sapphires.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on August 09, 2015, 10:53:04 PM
Arrivas Sapphire are about to suffer journey & frequency cuts as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 37351ml on August 10, 2015, 06:31:07 AM
6722-Bella on the first x51 from Scott arms.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 10, 2015, 06:58:53 AM
6727 on the 2nd Cannock.

The first Cannock also had one but I didnt see the number!

6724 waiting in Hatherton Road showing 997.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 08:40:29 AM
6732 out unbranded and 6719 I think taken back to garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on August 10, 2015, 08:46:44 AM
6724, 6725 and another platinum have gone past me on Bull Street all left not in service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 10, 2015, 08:57:23 AM
Quote from: AV4248 on August 10, 2015, 08:46:44 AM
6724, 6725 and another platinum have gone past me on Bull Street all left not in service.

And then come back around again to pick up on their departure times. Lots of 51s & X51s have 'recovery time' in their timetable, so come in Not in Service to drop off, and then go around the block to start their next journey. Both are actually in service at the moment
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 10, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 10, 2015, 09:15:30 AM
6734 is at Walsall ready to operate first 997 09:15

Not sure what you mean by that, there are a lot of 997s before 09:15 and it is not 6734's first journey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on August 10, 2015, 10:07:37 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 10, 2015, 09:39:15 AM
Not sure what you mean by that, there are a lot of 997s before 09:15 and it is not 6734's first journey
Okay sorry about that @Tony
I remove the post
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 10, 2015, 10:20:42 AM
4871 out on X51/997 so that is at least one non Platinum. Anymore Non Platinums out?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 10, 2015, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: Nathan on August 10, 2015, 10:20:42 AM
4871 out on X51/997 so that is at least one non Platinum. Anymore Non Platinums out?

As I have been posting, the aim today was to have all the 'all day' boards Platinum, so yes there were 3 non-platinums on X51 running boards. 4871 is not one of them as this is on a 934 running board which runs back to garage from Birmingham as an X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 10, 2015, 11:28:29 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 10, 2015, 10:38:21 AM
As I have been posting, the aim today was to have all the 'all day' boards Platinum, so yes there were 3 non-platinums on X51 running boards. 4871 is not one of them as this is on a 934 running board which runs back to garage from Birmingham as an X51

Thanks for the explanation @Tony. I'm not familiar with the X51/997, 934/5/6 running boards so wouldn't have been aware.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 11:41:18 AM
In other news I just had 4734, the best bus ive ever driven! Was so quick and smooth
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on August 10, 2015, 11:57:55 AM
Does anybody know 6719's current location?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 12:01:57 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on August 10, 2015, 11:57:55 AM
Does anybody know 6719's current location?

6719 looked to be heading back to garage this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JoNi on August 10, 2015, 12:06:28 PM
Old dear getting off X51 in front of me asked driver "are all the X's going to be black from now on"!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on August 10, 2015, 12:08:27 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on August 10, 2015, 11:57:55 AM
Does anybody know 6719's current location?
6719 is on X51 @Rob2832

Should be on its way now to Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on August 10, 2015, 12:15:04 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 10, 2015, 12:08:27 PM
6719 is on X51 @Rob2832

Should be on its way now to Walsall

Thank You Buddy :) I'm on 6719 now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on August 10, 2015, 12:19:15 PM
Is 6725 and 6726 out by any chance?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on August 10, 2015, 12:30:29 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 10, 2015, 12:19:15 PM
Is 6725 and 6726 out by any chance?

6725 is out and I may have seen 6726 but I'm not 100% sure. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 10, 2015, 12:31:28 PM
6726 just left City on a 997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on August 10, 2015, 12:32:27 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 10, 2015, 12:19:15 PM
Is 6725 and 6726 out by any chance?

One of those two just left Bull Street.
6728 is leaving as a 997E if anyone's looking for it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on August 10, 2015, 12:32:38 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on August 10, 2015, 12:30:29 PM
6725 is out and I may have seen 6726 but I'm not 100% sure. :)
@Rob2832
Spotted 6726 leaving bull street on 997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on August 10, 2015, 02:32:48 PM
6744 in walsall by the royal mail
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 10, 2015, 03:38:20 PM
What are the PVR Peak Vehicle Requirements for each of the WA depot routes such as the 29, 89, 51, X51 and any cross linkings etc etc and does any one have or could get me any offical schedules or duty sheets, please PM me.

Regards
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 10, 2015, 03:49:16 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 10, 2015, 03:38:20 PM
What are the PVR Peak Vehicle Requirements for each of the WA depot routes such as the 29, 89, 51, X51 and any cross linkings etc etc and does any one have or could get me any offical schedules or duty sheets, please PM me.

Regards

It is confidential information and any member of staff passing that sort of detail on would be liable to disciplinary action
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 10, 2015, 03:52:31 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 08:40:29 AM
6732 out unbranded and 6719 I think taken back to garage
6719 was out on inward 997 followed it past Barton Arms towards Newtown Row about 11:30 this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 10, 2015, 03:58:28 PM
The MMCs I saw earlier today were:6719/20/22/23/24/26/27/28/29/30/31/32/34. Is this all that have been out today other than 6725/6744
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on August 10, 2015, 03:59:55 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 10, 2015, 03:58:28 PM
The MMCs I saw earlier today were:6719/20/22/23/24/26/27/28/29/30/31/32/34. Is this all that have been out today other than 6725/6744
6725 is out today @Dylanbusboy45
it was on 997E last time I photographed it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 10, 2015, 04:02:07 PM
Ok thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on August 10, 2015, 04:02:56 PM
I noticed some differences in unlaiden weight on some of the vehicles. 11155kg on some 11265kg on others. Anyone know why the extra weight on some? Are weight saving measures an ongoing development in manufacture?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 10, 2015, 04:09:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 10, 2015, 03:49:16 PM
It is confidential information and any member of staff passing that sort of detail on would be liable to disciplinary action


What about just the number of buses per routes? I worked out the 29 is 6 buses usually 5 SD and 1 DD.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 10, 2015, 04:10:52 PM
The destination display at the  back is different to Birmingham Centals.
These just display X51

Birmingham Centrals display

957 Solihull Station
   Via Swan Island
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on August 10, 2015, 04:21:35 PM
Just as I alighted from 6727 on the 997 6729 pulled in displaying 934 Walsall not sure whether it was the wrong destination or it actually operated the journey to Walsall. I did get a pic of it I'll post link later.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 10, 2015, 04:31:06 PM
@Michael Bevan that's not noteworthy they will soon be the main allocation did it have the fast to Birmingham 997/X51 branding, if it did it will be 6730 if not and was advertising Platinum it will be 6720.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on August 10, 2015, 04:41:25 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 10, 2015, 04:10:52 PM
The destination display at the  back is different to Birmingham Centals.
These just display X51

Birmingham Centrals display

957 Solihull Station
   Via Swan Island

Some of the X51 were just showing the route number. A couple I saw had the full display at the rear.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JoNi on August 10, 2015, 04:46:02 PM
Saw 6721 with just 997 on back. Full destinations seen for all routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on August 10, 2015, 04:21:35 PM
Just as I alighted from 6727 on the 997 6729 pulled in displaying 934 Walsall not sure whether it was the wrong destination or it actually operated the journey to Walsall. I did get a pic of it I'll post link later.

I've been driving the 934/5/6 all day and haven't passed one yet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 10, 2015, 04:52:14 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 04:50:13 PM
I've been driving the 934/5/6 all day and haven't passed one yet
Someone has mentioned on here 6720 is on the 934? @Michael Bevan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 10, 2015, 04:52:14 PM
Someone has mentioned on here 6720 is on the 934? @Michael Bevan

They all inter work, it might be but I haven't seen it yet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 10, 2015, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 05:03:18 PM
They all inter work, it might be but I haven't seen it yet
If it was on the 997 earlier is there any chance it could now be on the 934.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 10, 2015, 05:33:06 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 10, 2015, 05:12:59 PM
If it was on the 997 earlier is there any chance it could now be on the 934.

I'm not sure now the summer boards are on but I think one used to before do a x51,934,935,936
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nathan4775 on August 10, 2015, 07:50:09 PM
6729 is/was on the 936
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/20465017735/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on August 10, 2015, 08:26:36 PM
6730 has not long left brum on the 935a.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on August 10, 2015, 08:28:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 10, 2015, 08:57:23 AM
And then come back around again to pick up on their departure times. Lots of 51s & X51s have 'recovery time' in their timetable, so come in Not in Service to drop off, and then go around the block to start their next journey. Both are actually in service at the moment

Alright, I never knew about that. Thanks for letting me know.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 10, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
I see the Express and Star is calling them 'Phantoms'!  Can't they even print a press release these days?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 11, 2015, 07:18:40 AM
6729 on 2nd Cannock this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 11, 2015, 09:43:58 AM
Some has got on X51 didn't know he didn't stop till Perry Barr needs a sign
On cab door non stop from city to Perry Barr
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 11, 2015, 10:01:08 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on August 11, 2015, 09:43:58 AM
Some has got on X51 didn't know he didn't stop till Perry Barr needs a sign
On cab door non stop from city to Perry Barr

No other just needs less idiots boarding the bus.
Still to this day how people aren't aware of this amazes me
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 11, 2015, 03:45:43 PM
If of interest to anyone, 6722 has just pulled onto Bull St as a 934 back to Walsall.

6745 now out, on the X51 closely followed by 4876 (Presumably a board that will go onto the 934/5/6)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 11, 2015, 04:13:52 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 11, 2015, 03:45:43 PM
If of interest to anyone, 6722 has just pulled onto Bull St as a 934 back to Walsall.

Will also do a 935 then 936
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ossie on August 11, 2015, 06:51:43 PM
I noted 6719/22-25/27-31/34 variously working the X51 and the 997E early this afternoon. That was while riding 6731 from Walsall>Birmingham.

One lady very confused that 6731 didn't stay as an X51 in Bull Street, but switched to a 997E (which she only realised from the bus-stop it pulled up at).  I think she may have got on at Aston University inbound with the intention of travelling on outbound ....  :-\
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 11, 2015, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: Ossie on August 11, 2015, 06:51:43 PM
I noted 6719/22-25/27-31/34 variously working the X51 and the 997E early this afternoon. That was while riding 6731 from Walsall>Birmingham.

One lady very confused that 6731 didn't stay as an X51 in Bull Street, but switched to a 997E (which she only realised from the bus-stop it pulled up at).  I think she may have got on at Aston University inbound with the intention of travelling on outbound ....  :-\

They always do that same with 934/5/6 as they inter work but that is an inbound stop and the destination is only updTed before moor street so really they should cross over and wait by the childrebs hospital
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on August 11, 2015, 07:53:51 PM
Saw one coming down the motorway this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on August 11, 2015, 09:40:43 PM
All the routes I do are interworked I change blinds before I enter the city loop to save aggro and abuse from joe public , the electronic stops on great Charles St and snow hill show times 127 for example but there's no mention its going to terminate at colmore row and leave as a 128 from colmore row as per running card, cause I change blinds before hand it now doesn't tally with the info at the stops, many passengers using the inbound stops to go outbound do ask if I,m staying as a 127/8/9 on the way out, to which I reply already changed over.  I think this inbound and outbound stop situation needs reviewing. Customers/ passengers call them what you will do get confused with all this changing of services.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 11, 2015, 09:55:25 PM
Quote from: 2900 on August 11, 2015, 09:40:43 PM
....I think this inbound and outbound stop situation needs reviewing. Customers/ passengers call them what you will do get confused with all this changing of services.

Well in some cases yeah maybe, but at Aston Uni there is a bus stop for services into city - quite clearly station "to city centre" on and the real time display has all routes showing as "to city", and then across the road by the Children's Hospital is the outbound bus stop where all the normal people go to get the bus out of the city
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 11, 2015, 10:15:34 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 11, 2015, 09:55:25 PM
Well in some cases yeah maybe, but at Aston Uni there is a bus stop for services into city - quite clearly station "to city centre" on and the real time display has all routes showing as "to city", and then across the road by the Children's Hospital is the outbound bus stop where all the normal people go to get the bus out of the city
They do that to be the first person on the bus rather than  boarding a packed bus when leaving the City Centre they usually sit upstairs seen people do it on the 55/70/94. Often when people see a 56 coming up the Priory Queensway the crowd from the 55/94 stop will run to the 56/70 stop only to walk back down when it comes background on a 70E. Infact a couple of weeks ago  someone boarded the 70E on a Sunday thinking it was going to Marston Green. I also can not believe some people catch it from the City Centre to Solihull.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on August 11, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
Yes l,ve seen people board the 101 from newhall St rather than wait with masses at livery St to me that makes sense,  that bus stays as a 101 outbound.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on August 11, 2015, 10:32:20 PM
Quote from: 2900 on August 11, 2015, 10:24:38 PM
Yes l,ve seen people board the 101 from newhall St rather than wait with masses at livery St to me that makes sense,  that bus stays as a 101 outbound.
I do that... Well, the 101 can't really change to any other service, can it? Haha! Same with the 16, I guess. Waiting at Priory Queensway - then again, the only problem is that, from experience, you may have to change onto the bus in front at the Markets...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 12, 2015, 07:01:50 AM
So my first day back at work was also meant to be the first day of Platinums, and I got excited. Instead I was ill. Now going back to work today and a plain E400 turns up instead.

Damnit all you kids on holiday trying them out on my route and I haven't even had one yet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on August 12, 2015, 08:21:20 AM
Quote from: Kevin on August 12, 2015, 07:01:50 AM
So my first day back at work was also meant to be the first day of Platinums, and I got excited. Instead I was ill. Now going back to work today and a plain E400 turns up instead.

Damnit all you kids on holiday trying them out on my route and I haven't even had one yet
Sorry!  :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 12, 2015, 01:20:07 PM
4770 is still hanging on in service at WA. On the 40/1 today.


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 12, 2015, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 12, 2015, 01:20:07 PM
4770 is still hanging on in service at WA. On the 40/1 today.

I saw 4770 this morning and if it stays on that board, it would go on the 89 later in the evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2015, 04:09:04 PM
4820 at walsall ive got a 935 on it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 12, 2015, 04:43:31 PM
I must say I'm very glad my destinations are being used on the new platinums.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: settlerman on August 12, 2015, 07:40:41 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 10, 2015, 09:08:55 PM
I see the Express and Star is calling them 'Phantoms'!  Can't they even print a press release these days?
Probably better still I heard them referred to as "Elephants"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Eric Shaw on August 12, 2015, 08:04:10 PM
6745 0n the X51 this afternoon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 12, 2015, 08:14:39 PM
Let's hope there not "White Elephants"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 12, 2015, 08:15:24 PM
Oh for the love.... Usual bus home for me turned out to be a plain E400 as well.... Wanna go on one now I've seen them
I know I could have waited for the next one but meh...Just a casual moan lol

Anyway, curious point, been talking to me mate (who is slowly turning into one of us  :D ) who commutes on the 997 so has caught a few already.
The green colour used for the "branding" (I use " " because it's more an advert, but there is apparently a route diagram of the 997 and X51 inside as well?).
Originally the X51 branding made it seem a part of the 51 route (similar colour, just italics for the lettering) and the 934/5/6 were equally similar to the 33, which all made a bit of sense and speaking to non geeky friends in the area they did pick up on this (talk of "the blue route" and "the green route"). Now though, already seems to me and my mate at least anyway to give the impression that the 997 and X51 are lumped in together and with the 934/5/6 routes (if their "branding" is gonna be a similar colour to the previous).
Almost making it seem a separate entity to the 51 (I know it kinda is, bit same route and all)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on August 12, 2015, 08:18:28 PM
PB-4819 is on WA934 tonight
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2015, 08:23:09 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on August 12, 2015, 08:18:28 PM
PB-4819 is on WA934 tonight

4801,4819 and 4820 are all on loan, I had the pleasure of 4820 for a 935
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 12, 2015, 08:53:30 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2015, 08:23:09 PM
4801,4819 and 4820 are all on loan, I had the pleasure of 4820 for a 935

Why do WA need loans when they've just had a load of Platinum's enter service / should have excess?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2015, 09:11:48 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 12, 2015, 08:53:30 PM
Why do WA need loans when they've just had a load of Platinum's enter service / should have excess?

They seemed to have a few platinums down today, was a few enviros on x51/997 at the evening peak and a fair few b7rle and enviro's are going through paint maybe?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on August 12, 2015, 09:19:35 PM
How many more seats does a standard Enviro 400 MMC have than a Platinum Enviro 400 MMC?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on August 12, 2015, 09:27:31 PM
Platinums have 43 up, 30 down, whilst Standards have 47 up, 32 down.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 12, 2015, 09:52:02 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 12, 2015, 09:11:48 PM
They seemed to have a few platinums down today, was a few enviros on x51/997 at the evening peak and a fair few b7rle and enviro's are going through paint maybe?

WA now have up to 18 Platinum's in service, with only 6 x B7RLE in paint for Dundee (some of these may have been released by ex PB Omnilinks). No further 47-- DP E400's have entered the paintshop for NXC as yet. I currently have WA's allocation as 202 buses which includes 1774-7/82 & 84 & 4767 & 4774 which are currently under refurbishment for cascade, that still makes 194 and with summer timetables in place there should be plenty to cover the total pvr.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 12, 2015, 10:33:32 PM
How many Platinums should Walsall have eventually?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 12, 2015, 10:34:17 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 12, 2015, 10:33:32 PM
How many Platinums should Walsall have eventually?

@Westy 40 x Platinum's
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 13, 2015, 07:09:33 AM
2nd Cannock X51 not turned up at my stop by 703(timed at 657).

Had to race round to Bloxwich Road & luckily a 302 popped up!

(Has the X51 broken down?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on August 13, 2015, 08:15:05 AM
Quote from: Winston on August 12, 2015, 08:53:30 PM
Why do WA need loans when they've just had a load of Platinum's enter service / should have excess?

Could be for V festival weekend 14-17 August
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 13, 2015, 12:11:19 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on August 13, 2015, 08:15:05 AM
Could be for V festival weekend 14-17 August

WN runs V festival routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: Chris on August 13, 2015, 12:11:19 PM
WN runs V festival routes

Both WN and WA run the V Festival services. WN mostly with their own vehicles (and some loaned) an WA run with a mixture of their own and loaned buses from other garages.

And as @John said drivers from all garages can put their names down to drive the shuttles.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 13, 2015, 12:32:16 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Both WN and WA run V Festival services. WN mostly with their own vehicles (and some loaned) an WA run with a mixture of their own and loaned buses off other garages.

With drivers from all garages that put their names down. I'm still waiting to see if I'm down to do it. Its actually the weekend after that was stated earlier, so it seems too early to send buses for it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on August 13, 2015, 01:13:59 PM
4801 on 936 (Crimson E400)
Will do 1320 from Birmingham
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on August 13, 2015, 01:19:55 PM
It's actually organised by AG as far as I'm aware. I was going to do it but took y name off. I see Tony is doing it, as the duties are up in garage here, with all the names.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 13, 2015, 01:26:10 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 13, 2015, 12:27:33 PM
Both WN and WA run the V Festival services. WN mostly with their own vehicles (and some loaned) an WA run with a mixture of their own and loaned buses from other garages.

And as @John said drivers from all garages can put their names down to drive the shuttles.

Apologies @Nathan and @John reason i thought it was just WN as last year going through wolvo to work i only saw WN buses on the shuttles (the couple i saw before heading of on the 529)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 13, 2015, 01:29:41 PM
Quote from: Chris on August 13, 2015, 01:26:10 PM
Apologies @Nathan and @John reason i thought it was just WN as last year going through wolvo to work i only saw WN buses on the shuttles (the couple i saw before heading of on the 529)
Tony's third picture down shows some of the AG presidents wich were used on it last year @Chris . http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4043.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 13, 2015, 02:04:07 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 13, 2015, 01:29:41 PM
Tony's third picture down shows some of the AG presidents wich were used on it last year @Chris . http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4043.html

Cheers @2206
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 13, 2015, 03:40:52 PM
4820 on x51 city bound a few mins ago
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 13, 2015, 04:21:57 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on August 13, 2015, 01:13:59 PM
4801 on 936 (Crimson E400)
Will do 1320 from Birmingham

I was driving it! Was it you taking pics just in Walsall?!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on August 13, 2015, 04:23:46 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 13, 2015, 04:21:57 PM
I was driving it! Was it you taking pics just in Walsall?!
no I wasn't @BU07 LGO 
I spotted it while on 6714 home
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on August 13, 2015, 04:41:29 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 13, 2015, 04:21:57 PM
I was driving it! Was it you taking pics just in Walsall?!
It was me!  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 13, 2015, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 13, 2015, 04:41:29 PM
It was me!  ;)

It was really nice bus better than 4820
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on August 13, 2015, 04:48:39 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 13, 2015, 04:47:35 PM
It was really nice bus better than 4820
Oh yeah! One of my favourite at PB!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 13, 2015, 05:01:50 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 13, 2015, 04:48:39 PM
Oh yeah! One of my favourite at PB!

I had someone ask if they can use their bus pass on it!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 13, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
And in amongst all the Platinums / non platinum E400s.... Saw either a Trident or a B7TL on the X51 disappearing down Walsall road 20 mins ago
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 13, 2015, 07:35:02 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 13, 2015, 07:26:11 PM
And in amongst all the Platinums / non platinum E400s.... Saw either a Trident or a B7TL on the X51 disappearing down Walsall road 20 mins ago

4308. :) I am on it as I type.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on August 13, 2015, 08:11:31 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 13, 2015, 07:35:02 PM
4308. :) I am on it as I type.

Or possibly 4128. That was on earlier.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 13, 2015, 08:20:26 PM
Quote from: Gareth on August 13, 2015, 08:11:31 PM
Or possibly 4128. That was on earlier.

Around 19:05? 4308 fit perfectly with the time Kevin stated. 4308 arrived in Birmingham at 19:21, departed at 19:30.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on August 13, 2015, 08:30:05 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 13, 2015, 05:01:50 PM
I had someone ask if they can use their bus pass on it!
We've had that at PB.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 13, 2015, 09:59:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 10, 2015, 03:49:16 PM
It is confidential information and any member of staff passing that sort of detail on would be liable to disciplinary action

Tony

How come you warning stuff not to send me any working information for WA buses? every one else seems to know the board numbers etc and what each bus turns into during trips...

so why say no to me?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 13, 2015, 10:13:21 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 13, 2015, 09:59:39 PM
Tony

How come you warning stuff not to send me any working information for WA buses? every one else seems to know the board numbers etc and what each bus turns into during trips...

so why say no to me?

No one else asks for PVR's so what Tony is saying is correct.Running board numbers and PVR's are totally different things. In my case, i know the running boards through my own knowledge.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on August 13, 2015, 10:46:54 PM
Yeah - number of running boards and PVRs are closely guarded by NX; can't be posted publicly. You can work out the PVRs yourself most of the time by working through the timetables. For the usual daytime requirement simply add up the total round trip for a bus (including break) and divide by the frequency.

E.g Route 76

64 mins from Solihull to QE
6   mins break at QE
64 mins from QE to Solihull
6   mins break at Solihull

Add that up = 140 mins. Divide by frequency of 20 mins = 7 buses needed for normal service. If you want the peak figures you'll have to look closely at the timetable. E.g 76 needs 8 in the morning. It's possible to work it all out though - only one I can't follow is the X51/997 and 934/935/936!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on August 13, 2015, 11:47:22 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on August 13, 2015, 10:46:54 PM
Yeah - number of running boards and PVRs are closely guarded by NX; can't be posted publicly. You can work out the PVRs yourself most of the time by working through the timetables. For the usual daytime requirement simply add up the total round trip for a bus (including break) and divide by the frequency.

E.g Route 76

64 mins from Solihull to QE
6   mins break at QE
64 mins from QE to Solihull
6   mins break at Solihull

Add that up = 140 mins. Divide by frequency of 20 mins = 7 buses needed for normal service. If you want the peak figures you'll have to look closely at the timetable. E.g 76 needs 8 in the morning. It's possible to work it all out though - only one I can't follow is the X51/997 and 934/935/936!
So basically do the trip to wherever break wherever break add up and divide
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 13, 2015, 11:50:08 PM
Quote from: RS on August 13, 2015, 11:47:22 PM
So basically do the trip to wherever break wherever break add up and divide

Wooow... I never knew that(!) Thanks for that(!) <claps slowly>
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on August 14, 2015, 12:57:39 PM
1778's dundee repaint. seen with an enginer in Bloxwich
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 14, 2015, 01:00:22 PM
Quote from: jack4325 on August 14, 2015, 12:57:39 PM
1778's dundee repaint job now finished. seen with an enginer in Bloxwich

@jack4325 Are you sure it was 1778? As that hasn't been on Tony's last two repaint lists
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 14, 2015, 01:04:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 14, 2015, 01:00:22 PM
@jack4325 Are you sure it was 1778? As that hasn't been on Tony's last two repaint lists

It looked like it. We passed it at the Sand Bank/Sneyd Lane junction whilst on an 89 so couldn't have got a closer look. If not then could have been 1776?

Cheers @Tony. I did think that i possibly misread the fleetnumber.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 14, 2015, 01:04:37 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 14, 2015, 01:00:22 PM
@jack4325 Are you sure it was 1778? As that hasn't been on Tony's last two repaint lists

I suspect it was actually 1776 which was due to go for MoT today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: arrifirststage on August 14, 2015, 04:04:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 14, 2015, 01:04:37 PM
I suspect it was actually 1776 which was due to go for MoT today

Tony,I can quite understand why NX regard information re PVR and route allocations as private,I imagine many operators feel the same.
The thing that surprises me is that Stagecoach appear to have no such shyness..........monthly fleet cards showing types to routes and number of buses on routes are readily available.
Also,the proposed allocation of new vehicles is advertised well in advance,and almost used to generate good publicity.........again NX appear shy to the point of reclusivity (if there is such a word)........do you think this depends on the views of the senior management at the time?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 14, 2015, 07:50:43 PM
Exactly, even in London, all the working info is made avaible for varius sources.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 14, 2015, 08:01:35 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 14, 2015, 07:50:43 PM
Exactly, even in London, all the working info is made avaible for varius sources.

It doesn't matter what others do, releasing that info by an NX employee is a disciplinary offence, so having a go up thread at me because I said no doesn't exactly endear you to me after I told you via PM why I couldn't a couple of days ago
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 14, 2015, 08:10:23 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 14, 2015, 07:50:43 PM
Exactly, even in London, all the working info is made avaible for various sources.

London however @Tomf1993 is a totally different operation, routes are operated by one operator under contract to TFL, therefore letting people know the PVR isn't a problem, there is no competition.

Don't blame @Tony , the decision has nothing to do with him.  If you want to know the PVR of a particular route, have a go at working it out yourself, its not that difficult unless its a complicated route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 14, 2015, 09:50:19 PM
Total chaos on the 51 and X51 today due to severe congestion. Two hours from City centre to Scott Arms.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 14, 2015, 10:00:40 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 14, 2015, 09:50:19 PM
Total chaos on the 51 and X51 today due to severe congestion. Two hours from City centre to Scott Arms.
@Other Walsall Tony the M6 motorway was closed causing late buses on the Birchfield Road and Soho Road, 28/67/71/966 were also running late due to roadworks on the Chester Road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 14, 2015, 11:16:03 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 14, 2015, 08:10:23 PM
London however @Tomf1993 is a totally different operation, routes are operated by one operator under contract to TFL, therefore letting people know the PVR isn't a problem, there is no competition.

Don't blame @Tony , the decision has nothing to do with him.  If you want to know the PVR of a particular route, have a go at working it out yourself, its not that difficult unless its a complicated route.

If you do work it out yourself, are you allowed to post it on here or not?

@Westy - You can post any Pvr workings out on the forum, just don't expect anyone from NX to confirm whether or not it is correct, Winston

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 14, 2015, 11:27:35 PM
Apart from a few more Platinums to enter service, has Walsall settled down now with allocations?

It seems to be mainly Scanias on the Darlaston & West Brom corridor, Enviro 200's on the 70/70a & the Alumwell, Enviro 400's on the Brum routes(or will be!), with the remaining routes having mixed allocations, or is there still 'work to do'?

We still don't know for sure whether the Dudley corridor is getting double decks eventually.

The Bloxwich corridor is definetely a mix of single & doubles. Whether that is the ultimate plan, god knows!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on August 15, 2015, 01:42:17 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 14, 2015, 11:27:35 PM
Apart from a few more Platinums to enter service, has Walsall settled down now with allocations?

That reminds me... I definitely saw a 48** Enviro on the 997, on Thirsday. Spotted at Newtown Swimming Baths, circa 1720, heading outbound.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 15, 2015, 07:18:35 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 14, 2015, 11:16:03 PM
If you do work it out yourself, are you allowed to post it on here or not?

@Westy - You can post any Pvr workings out on the forum, just don't expect anyone from NX to confirm whether or not it is correct, Winston

Whats with the blue ink? Feel like Im back at school! LOL

To be honest the only info I know for definete is the Cannock X51 am's & 0659 313 start from the depot.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 15, 2015, 09:38:04 AM
6745 (?) broken down on just before square peg.

900 platinum just infront. Any idea why?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 15, 2015, 09:43:31 AM
6743 now branded for the 934/5/6. Currently in Walsall on the 934.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on August 15, 2015, 09:49:57 AM
does anybody know if 4801 is on the way to Birmingham
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 15, 2015, 12:35:11 PM
Any news from Walsall Town Centre with the Edl?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 15, 2015, 05:48:38 PM
First two new Levantes have now arrived at Walsall

BK15 AJU  http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0116-0422/BK15AJU.html
BK15 AJV  http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0116-0422/BK15AJV.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 15, 2015, 07:08:22 PM
I have now put all 40 names for the Platinums on the main site, along with photos of those those delivered so far.

6749 shows the full 934 branding in the sun
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6749.html

6746 shows the rear branding
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6746.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 15, 2015, 07:35:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 15, 2015, 07:08:22 PM
I have now put all 40 names for the Platinums on the main site, along with photos of those those delivered so far.

6749 shows the full 934 branding in the sun
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6749.html

6746 shows the rear branding
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6746.html

Some very nice names, but nothing for Edgley Cox!  Also seems a pity they could not find a third Grace...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 16, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
4876 doing one of the X51's today.

Where's the Platinums then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 16, 2015, 10:34:07 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 16, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
4876 doing one of the X51's today.

Where's the Platinums then?

4819 is out on 997s too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on August 16, 2015, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 16, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
4876 doing one of the X51's today.

Where's the Platinums then?
Whatever bus they can get to first in the garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 16, 2015, 11:02:40 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 16, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
4876 doing one of the X51's today.

Where's the Platinums then?

Maybe they don't want them on the 934E/935A so are using standard E400's untill the 934/5/6 are upgraded fully? (Just my thoughts but saying that they get onto 934/5/6 trips during peak times due to all the interworking)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 16, 2015, 11:03:18 AM
Quote from: John on August 16, 2015, 10:34:07 AM
4819 is out on 997s too

No platinum x51s today because it's unterworking with 934/935a
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 16, 2015, 11:25:42 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 16, 2015, 10:32:42 AM
4876 doing one of the X51's today.

Where's the Platinums then?

Also 4872
And haven't seen any come past the other way on either route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 16, 2015, 01:29:10 PM
And 4876 on the way back to Walsall!

To be honest, I would've prefered generic 'Fast To Birmingham' branding rather than specific routes!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 16, 2015, 01:31:56 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 16, 2015, 11:03:18 AM
No platinum x51s today because it's unterworking with 934/935a
in the week there has been platinum out on 934/5 so what's the difference today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 16, 2015, 01:35:52 PM
6743 is out on 934e/x51 for it's second day out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 16, 2015, 05:06:05 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 15, 2015, 07:35:16 PM
Some very nice names, but nothing for Edgley Cox!  Also seems a pity they could not find a third Grace...

'Sister Dora' would have been a nice touch, too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 16, 2015, 05:23:43 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 16, 2015, 01:35:52 PM
6743 is out on 934e/x51 for it's second day out

A 934/5/6 branded MMC was just heading into City on a 935A. Don't know if it the same one?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 16, 2015, 05:48:46 PM
Quote from: John on August 16, 2015, 05:23:43 PM
A 934/5/6 branded MMC was just heading into City on a 935A. Don't know if it the same one?

Most likely, its the only one ive seen all day
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 17, 2015, 09:42:03 AM
6743 is out on the 93*s. Left City on what I think was the 9.08 936
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 17, 2015, 10:01:49 AM
4801 out on X51 just saw it on Moor Street Queensway 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 17, 2015, 10:08:01 AM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 17, 2015, 10:01:49 AM
4801 out on X51 just saw it on Moor Street Queensway

saw it in bull st with not in service on the blinds
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 17, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
All five B10Ls out on 40/1 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 17, 2015, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 17, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
All five B10Ls out on 40/1 today.

Including running board 41-01 which does the late night 89s until midninght
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 17, 2015, 11:31:27 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 17, 2015, 11:20:40 AM
Including running board 41-01 which does the late night 89s until midninght

Yes, indeed, it is 1436. One of the two B10Ls that is allowed to be out for the night service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 17, 2015, 12:09:10 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on August 17, 2015, 10:08:01 AM
saw it in bull st with not in service on the blinds
It was following 6730 I think when I saw 4801 they lay over in Bull Street before going out on 997/E I think someone will verify this @Solo1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 17, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 17, 2015, 12:09:10 PM
It was following 6730 I think when I saw 4801 they lay over in Bull Street before going out on 997/E I think someone will verify this @Solo1

4801 was out this morning but baxk at garage now

There's a platinum 934/5/6 out again today. Any idea when the rest are due @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 17, 2015, 12:46:57 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 17, 2015, 12:44:16 PM
4801 was out this morning but baxk at garage now

There's a platinum 934/5/6 out again today. Any idea when the rest are due @Tony

6743 & 6745 are both out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 17, 2015, 12:53:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 17, 2015, 12:46:57 PM
6743 & 6745 are both out

I had 6743 on Saturday but it was taken off me in town
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on August 17, 2015, 09:37:52 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 17, 2015, 12:53:56 PM
I had 6743 on Saturday but it was taken off me in town

By town do you mean Birmingham or Walsall? If Birmingham, why?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 17, 2015, 09:41:11 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on August 17, 2015, 09:37:52 PM
By town do you mean Birmingham or Walsall? If Birmingham, why?

Walsall. I heard it wasn't supposed to be allocated and was sent out by mistake. When it arrived back it was swapped
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 17, 2015, 09:48:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 17, 2015, 09:41:11 PM
Walsall. I heard it wasn't supposed to be allocated and was sent out by mistake. When it arrived back it was swapped

You're half correct, @Nathan. 6743 arrived in Birmingham and it went to Not in Service. @BU07 LGO waited for the replacement bus which was 4299. The engineer took 6743 back to the garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 17, 2015, 09:53:41 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 17, 2015, 09:48:36 PM
You're half correct, @Nathan. 6743 arrived in Birmingham and it went to Not in Service. @BU07 LGO waited for the replacement bus which was 4299. The engineer took 6743 back to the garage.

Ah, ok Cheers @P419 EJW.


Does anyone know if the B10 has stayed on 41/01? I might go out to get a photo in a bit.

Damn it! Cheers @P419 EJW. You've saved me the short walk to the main rd!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 17, 2015, 09:55:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 17, 2015, 09:53:41 PM
Ah, ok Cheers @P419 EJW.


Does anyone know if the B10 has stayed on 41/01? I might go out to get a photo in a bit.

No, 1436 got swapped by 4297...  >:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 18, 2015, 06:00:14 PM
Is the 301/302 interlinked ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 18, 2015, 07:17:18 PM
Depot ops manager was more helpfull lol  :D although their was one thing he wouldnt do, he said he didnt have time to go and take pics of the undercover parking area, so i was thinking do any of you guys have pics of the parking areas inside the garage? teh fuel area wash are pit area etc, outside bit Ive figured out a rough estimate of total buses can fit as bing.com shows the painted lanes etc,

Do all TWM buses like Trident have kickdown, as hardly no drivers use it.


Regards
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 18, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
6733 6735 & 6747 out this evening see photo link page  for photos
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 18, 2015, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on August 18, 2015, 07:28:51 PM
6733 6735 & 6747 out this evening see photo link page  for photos

6743 and 6749 also out, branded for the 93*s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ian Hardy on August 18, 2015, 07:54:22 PM
When are the 934/5/6 planned to be converted to Platinum status?

Many thanks

Ian Hardy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 18, 2015, 08:19:20 PM
Quote from: Ian Hardy on August 18, 2015, 07:54:22 PM
When are the 934/5/6 planned to be converted to Platinum status?

Many thanks

Ian Hardy

It's happening now slowly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 19, 2015, 12:00:51 PM
For those who are interested - loaned PB 4813 is on the 51 today, departed Walsall Bus Station at 11:47.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 12:24:59 PM
Scheduled working I think, ops manager told me, some routes run from more then 1 garage, like the 4 both WA and WB do trips on their.

Regards

@Tomf1993 4813 is on loan to WA and therefore not a scheduled working, neither do WB do any trips on the 4, Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 19, 2015, 12:32:45 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 12:24:59 PM
Scheduled working I think, ops manager told me, some routes run from more then 1 garage, like the 4 both WA and WB do trips on their.




Regards

If you are referring to 4813 on the 51, it is on loan to WA. PB work no trips on the 51 (or X51/997,934/5/6 for that matter)

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
According to the NXWM route allocations spreadsheet the 4 is under WA and WB if you look at the whole spread sheet? what buses have so far been replaced by the MMC?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 12:37:27 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 19, 2015, 12:32:45 PM
If you are referring to 4813 on the 51, it is on loan to WA. PB work no trips on the 51 (or X51/997,934/5/6 for that matter)

Thanks :-)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 19, 2015, 12:38:15 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
According to the NXWM route allocations spreadsheet the 4 is under WA and WB if you look at the whole spread sheet? what buses have so far been replaced by the MMC?

It is out of date! WA have done all the 4 / 4H & 4M trips for some time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 12:41:25 PM
Ok mate, thanks for letting me know, is their any other changes on that list which are out of date? might be good if it was updated.  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 19, 2015, 12:53:48 PM
One peak journey operated by West Brom on the 4 ain't it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 01:10:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2015, 03:17:45 PM
Walsall not sending Platinums out tomorrow now, the bus allocation sheets have just been changed. Any remaining buses in the 1774-1786 range will be parked up tomorrow and not used again. Any buses in the 4763-4775 range will be parked up, but are initially keeping ticket machines in, just in case of any problems. All will go into the paintshop as soon as there is the capacity to take them

Are all the above withdrawn then? or some still stray out? any more withdrawn after this list? and whats long term VOR etc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 19, 2015, 01:12:50 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 01:10:48 PM
Are all the above withdrawn then? or some still stray out? any more withdrawn after this list? and whats long term VOR etc

That post was 11 days ago! None of withdrawn just moving to Dundee and Coventry respectively
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 19, 2015, 01:12:50 PM
That post was 11 days ago! None of withdrawn just moving to Dundee and Coventry respectively


Is 4776 also withdrawn from WA waiting transfer elsewhere
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 19, 2015, 01:23:46 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 01:21:02 PM

Is 4776 also withdrawn from WA waiting transfer elsewhere

I post transfers and withdrawals as they happen, only very occasionally in advance, so chances are if it hasn't been mentioned it hasn't happened
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 02:02:42 PM
Thanks Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 19, 2015, 06:56:55 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 12:36:51 PM
According to the NXWM route allocations spreadsheet the 4 is under WA and WB if you look at the whole spread sheet? what buses have so far been replaced by the MMC?
Quote from: Winston on August 19, 2015, 12:38:15 PM
It is out of date! WA have done all the 4 / 4H & 4M trips for some time
Quote from: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 12:41:25 PM
Ok mate, thanks for letting me know, is their any other changes on that list which are out of date? might be good if it was updated.  :)

I have removed WB 4 from the sheet, don't know who put that there in the first place! I rely on fellow users to keep this sheet updated, but I'm going to have a good clear through at the weekend and remove some of the trivial details, try and tidy it up a bit.
If it's okay with the mods/admins, I'll create a new thread for discussion of this sheet, suggested amendments etc, as I know some users are unable to edit it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 07:09:48 PM
Excellent  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 19, 2015, 07:17:43 PM
I saw 6736  on X51 I waited in Birmingham  for it to return but I didn't see it any one know what happened worked it out to be 1710 or 1720 from Walsall thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on August 19, 2015, 07:20:47 PM
West Bromwich do do a one way trip on the 4 AFAIAA. This then goes onto a 6E
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on August 19, 2015, 07:25:53 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 19, 2015, 07:20:47 PM
West Bromwich do do a one way trip on the 4 AFAIAA. This then goes onto a 6E

What trip is this?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 37351ml on August 19, 2015, 10:54:29 PM
It is around 07.30 from WB as I had 4952 on it 16/6/15. On a different note 6734 is issuing tickets showing WA654. Must have the old B6's ticket machine!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on August 19, 2015, 11:30:12 PM
Quote from: 37351ml on August 19, 2015, 10:54:29 PM
It is around 07.30 from WB as I had 4952 on it 16/6/15. On a different note 6734 is issuing tickets showing WA654. Must have the old B6's ticket machine!

Love it! Even though 654 was a shed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on August 20, 2015, 12:35:23 AM
Quote from: 37351ml on August 19, 2015, 10:54:29 PM
It is around 07.30 from WB as I had 4952 on it 16/6/15. On a different note 6734 is issuing tickets showing WA654. Must have the old B6's ticket machine!

Loving that too!  Recall one of the 47XX batch issuing PB Metrobus tickets for a short time, I'm pretty sure.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 20, 2015, 09:58:02 AM
@jack4325 sounds like the Platinum is on the 302 trip which comes off the X51. It then goes back to garage.  Still a good spot though. Usually a standard E400.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 20, 2015, 10:47:55 AM
4242 is on the 40/41, not sure if this is a transfer or another loan from Perry Barr.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 20, 2015, 10:50:59 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 20, 2015, 10:47:55 AM
4242 is on the 40/41, not sure if this is a transfer or another loan from Perry Barr.

Loan for V Fest
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 20, 2015, 11:15:51 AM
Walsall's gone crazy today, 934/5/6 had 2 platinums that I saw,4813, a b7 alx, loads of tridents

Trident on 51, 6748 on 302!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on August 20, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 20, 2015, 11:15:51 AM
Walsall's gone crazy today, 934/5/6 had 2 platinums that I saw,4813, a b7 alx, loads of tridents

Trident on 51, 6748 on 302!!
6748 is it still out please
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 20, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 20, 2015, 11:15:51 AM
Walsall's gone crazy today, 934/5/6 had 2 platinums that I saw,4813, a b7 alx, loads of tridents

Trident on 51, 6748 on 302!!

4530 is also on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 20, 2015, 12:05:04 PM
Quote from: John on August 20, 2015, 12:01:03 PM
4530 is also on the 51

And guess whoes got stuck with 4875 for both parts.... :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on August 20, 2015, 12:09:18 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 20, 2015, 12:05:04 PM
And guess whoes got stuck with 4875 for both parts.... :(

4531 on 934/5/6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on August 20, 2015, 12:43:20 PM
Quote from: Nathan on August 20, 2015, 09:58:02 AM
@jack4325 sounds like the Platinum is on the 302 trip which comes off the X51. It then goes back to garage.  Still a good spot though. Usually a standard E400.
It happened the other day but don't think anyone noticed. Someone is in big trouble again at WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 20, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 20, 2015, 12:43:20 PM
It happened the other day but don't think anyone noticed. Someone is in big trouble again at WA.

Not really if it is a platinum on a running board that involve platinum routes!

Also @Michael Bevan  when was someone in big trouble at WA in the first place!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on August 20, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 20, 2015, 12:51:30 PM
Not really if it is a platinum on a running board that involve platinum routes!

Also @Michael Bevan  when was someone in big trouble at WA in the first place!
Basically that running board should have not been a Platinum since Platinum's are just for the 934/5/6, 997 and X51 and should not be on other routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on August 20, 2015, 05:56:15 PM
From a passenger point of view, it's far better to have a platinum bus on a non platinum route than a non platinum bus on a platinum route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 20, 2015, 06:18:50 PM
Walsall ' 4306  heading to bc from the camp hill  area came off the road next to the by pass
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 20, 2015, 06:34:19 PM
Meanwhile.... 4292 on the 18:35 X51 from brum
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 20, 2015, 07:49:42 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 20, 2015, 01:48:29 PM
Basically that running board should have not been a Platinum since Platinum's are just for the 934/5/6, 997 and X51 and should not be on other routes.

I saw and photographed it leave Walsall at about 9.25. There were a lot of hivis jackets around before it left...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 12:31:18 PM
1436 looks like it has got no destination blind.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on August 21, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
Can anybody please tell me when 1421 will be on 4m next today ? Please ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 21, 2015, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: RS on August 21, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
Can anybody please tell me when 1421 will be on 4m next today ? Please ?


It won't. The board it's on doesn't do any 4Ms
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on August 21, 2015, 01:19:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 21, 2015, 01:18:28 PM

It won't. The board it's on doesn't do any 4Ms
4 4H then ? Please
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 02:01:47 PM
Quote from: RS on August 21, 2015, 01:19:44 PM
4 4H then ? Please

It will only do the 4 all day. Just departed Blackheath at 14:00.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 03:04:25 PM
1421 got pulled off from the 4 and put on the 39.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 21, 2015, 05:08:07 PM
Why do they move them off one route to another?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 05:13:43 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 21, 2015, 05:08:07 PM
Why do they move them off one route to another?

The driver who was taking over 1421 on the 4 complained, I quote, "I don't want to drive this fucking shit bus to Merry Hill. I'm phoning the garage!" She managed to get 1844 off the 39. That's why 1421 got put on the 39.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 21, 2015, 05:21:37 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 05:13:43 PM
The driver who was taking over 1421 on the 4 complained, I quote, "I don't want to drive this fucking shit bus to Merry Hill. I'm phoning the garage!" She managed to get 1844 off the 39. That's why 1421 got put on the 39.

Is she insane?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 21, 2015, 05:26:14 PM
Do hope it wasnt my friend who does the Dudley rota?

I know she sometimes goes on the 4's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 21, 2015, 05:27:12 PM
1475 on 301 in Walsall Bus Station by the way.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 21, 2015, 05:29:00 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 05:13:43 PM
The driver who was taking over 1421 on the 4 complained, I quote, "I don't want to drive this fucking shit bus to Merry Hill. I'm phoning the garage!" She managed to get 1844 off the 39. That's why 1421 got put on the 39.

Whoever was at the garage should have told her that she drives what she is given, and if she don't like it, then she be given directions to the nearest Jobcentre.

If there is nothing wrong with the bus, there is no reason to get it swapped.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on August 21, 2015, 05:44:50 PM
Well perhaps 1421 is a bit of a shed to drive. If she's got a few hours in the same bus she deserves a good one. 1844 would have a far better cab environment in comparison and smoother to drive as well. Can't have been any problem considering the garage were clearly willing to swap the bus - if you ask me that's quite good listening to the drivers. Rather have a driver happy and comfortable with the bus at the wheel than someone who hates it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 21, 2015, 05:46:52 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on August 21, 2015, 05:44:50 PM
Well perhaps 1421 is a bit of a shed to drive. If she's got a few hours in the same bus she deserves a good one. 1844 would have a far better cab environment in comparison and smoother to drive as well. Can't have been any problem considering the garage were clearly willing to swap the bus - if you ask me that's quite good listening to the drivers. Rather have a driver happy and comfortable with the bus at the wheel than someone who hates it.

What about the driver of the 39 though? Maybe he prefers b10s?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on August 21, 2015, 05:48:23 PM
1759 is on the 4M just coming into merry hill
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 05:55:00 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on August 21, 2015, 05:44:50 PM
Well perhaps 1421 is a bit of a shed to drive. If she's got a few hours in the same bus she deserves a good one. 1844 would have a far better cab environment in comparison and smoother to drive as well. Can't have been any problem considering the garage were clearly willing to swap the bus - if you ask me that's quite good listening to the drivers. Rather have a driver happy and comfortable with the bus at the wheel than someone who hates it.

Oh, for Gods sake, I can't stand these kind of posts. 1421 is not a shed! I have been told by a number of Walsall bus drivers that 1421 is a nice bus to drive and she certainly has the power. I know I shouldn't say this but a bus is a bus. You should drive the bus regardless if you like the bus or not. The driver on the 39 was a bit reluctant to drive 1421 but he still drove it. So the attitude from the driver who was taking over on the 4 was disgusting. That driver chose the job to drive buses, she should accept buses what have been allocated.

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 21, 2015, 05:29:00 PM
Whoever was at the garage should have told her that she drives what she is given, and if she don't like it, then she be given directions to the nearest Jobcentre.

If there is nothing wrong with the bus, there is no reason to get it swapped.

Exactly!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on August 21, 2015, 06:51:20 PM
Saw more arriving down the m6 this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: arrifirststage on August 21, 2015, 07:10:02 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 05:55:00 PM
Oh, for Gods sake, I can't stand these kind of posts. 1421 is not a shed! I have been told by a number of Walsall bus drivers that 1421 is a nice bus to drive and she certainly has the power. I know I shouldn't say this but a bus is a bus. You should drive the bus regardless if you like the bus or not. The driver on the 39 was a bit reluctant to drive 1421 but he still drove it. So the attitude from the driver who was taking over on the 4 was disgusting. That driver chose the job to drive buses, she should accept buses what have been allocated.

Exactly!
My impression ,if this quote is correct,is that her vocabulary is at the very least limited,and had anyone had to listen to it it is nothing less than depressing.
Is this really the level to which we have sunk?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 21, 2015, 07:23:21 PM
Quote from: arrifirststage on August 21, 2015, 07:10:02 PM
My impression ,if this quote is correct,is that her vocabulary is at the very least limited,and had anyone had to listen to it it is nothing less than depressing.
Is this really the level to which we have sunk?

ive heard a driver complaining he didn't want a b10 because they don't have cctv tp protect them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 07:25:40 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 21, 2015, 07:23:21 PM
ive heard a driver complaining he didn't want a b10 because they don't have cctv tp protect them

Yes, I also know a certain driver who has the same opinion every time when a non-CCTV fitted B10L goes on the 89 on 41/01 board. She accepts 1436 and 1446 but not 1421, 1447 or 1475. That is perfectly understandable but what the driver said about 1421 today was just unnecessary.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 21, 2015, 07:28:04 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 07:25:40 PM
Yes, I also know a certain driver who has the same opinion every time when a non-CCTV fitted B10L goes on the 89 on 41/01 board. She accepts 1436 and 1446 but not 1421, 1447 or 1475. That is perfectly understandable but what the driver said about 1421 today was just unnecessary.

If they can refuse to drive a certain type I might refuse every time I get a mk2 enviro haha
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on August 21, 2015, 07:29:51 PM
Well perhaps she just isn't used to B10Ls, and wasn't comfortable driving one. Don't forget could be the amount of rattling she didn't want to put up with, suspension, driver's seat etc. If another driver agreed to swap, then can't really see an issue. I like B10Ls as an enthusiast, but she is more likely not one and just wants a decent all round bus.

@BU07 LGO

haha sounds like a good idea
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on August 21, 2015, 07:29:51 PM
Well perhaps she just isn't used to B10Ls, and wasn't comfortable driving one. Don't forget could be the amount of rattling she didn't want to put up with, suspension, driver's seat etc. If another driver agreed to swap, then can't really see an issue. I like B10Ls as an enthusiast, but she is more likely not one and just wants a decent all round bus.

@BU07 LGO

haha sounds like a good idea

That driver has been driving B10Ls for a year and a half on the 34/38/39 so I can't see why she refused today? The buses were swapped because the garage gave a "Yes" to her, she was estatic when she heard the approval.

@BU07 LGO Hahaha! ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on August 21, 2015, 07:34:52 PM
Well perhaps she's just got fed up of them and tried her luck - anyway enough speculation on it now from me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on August 21, 2015, 07:35:12 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on August 21, 2015, 07:29:51 PM
Well perhaps she just isn't used to B10Ls, and wasn't comfortable driving one. Don't forget could be the amount of rattling she didn't want to put up with, suspension, driver's seat etc. If another driver agreed to swap, then can't really see an issue. I like B10Ls as an enthusiast, but she is more likely not one and just wants a decent all round bus.

@BU07 LGO

haha sounds like a good idea

Yes but if everyone said that, you may as well withdraw half the fleet at the end of service tonight. If you are asked to drive a bus and there is nothing mechanically wrong with it, then you are paid to drive it!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on August 21, 2015, 09:54:08 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on August 21, 2015, 07:35:12 PM
Yes but if everyone said that, you may as well withdraw half the fleet at the end of service tonight. If you are asked to drive a bus and there is nothing mechanically wrong with it, then you are paid to drive it!

She may not want to drive it because she is not comfortable driving a bus not used to.
The 4 rotaa rarely gets B10L on while Bradford place drivers are used to and more comfortable driving a bus
There used to. Another reason is there is no destination blinds for the 4s on Walsall blinds

1421 is one of Walsall finest followed by 1446 1447 1436

1475 not so good.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 10:02:17 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on August 21, 2015, 09:54:08 PM
She may not want to drive it because she is not comfortable driving a bus not used to.
The 4 rotaa rarely gets B10L on while Bradford place drivers are used to and more comfortable driving a bus
There used to. Another reason is there is no destination blinds for the 4s on Walsall blinds

1421 is one of Walsall finest followed by 1446 1447 1436

1475 not so good.

If you read my post above, that driver has been driving the B10Ls on the 34/38/39 for a year and a half so she is familiar of the B10Ls. She just went into a tantrum. She drives on any Bradford Place routes. You're correct about the destination blind, it does not have 'Blackheath', 'Merry Hill', and 'Halesowen'. Anyway, I'm going to stop talking about this.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on August 21, 2015, 10:54:16 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 21, 2015, 10:02:17 PM
She drives on any Bradford Place routes. You're correct about the destination blind, it does not have 'Blackheath', 'Merry Hill', and 'Halesowen'. Anyway, I'm going to stop talking about this.

Forgive me if I'm being dense but is this not a a fundamental reason why a professional operator would not allocate the bus to the service - as it is not suitable (unless it has some form of temporary destination indicator).

It does seem that Walsall garage has a problem occasionally with allocations at the moment - Platinum on a normal route is about as absurd as Midland Red using 26 seat touring coaches on local peak period services in Birmingham back in the 70s. How can you create a brand image with that going on?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on August 22, 2015, 12:55:47 PM
1886 on 34. Doesnt sound too healthy. Fan permanently on also
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on August 22, 2015, 03:14:52 PM
Maybe there is a reason this driver asked for a different bus. For example when mercs were at pl a couple of them had seats which wouldn't adjust enough for a few of the drivers to be able to drive comfortably. I.e its no good if you can't reach the pedals etc. At the end of the day a driver can be expected to spend up to 5hrs 30 mins in the cab so it is only fair that the driver feels happy with all aspects of each vehicle. Whether an allocated , engineer, or any other person disagrees. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on August 22, 2015, 03:25:40 PM
@mranon

Exactly what I thought

Remember when 1898 came to YW from WA - that sounded bad as well, so was the suspension.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 24, 2015, 03:24:30 PM
For anyone looking for the 47XX E400s before they get repainted/transferred 4776 is on the 935 today.MMCs 6749/6744/6746 also on 934/5/6 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 24, 2015, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 24, 2015, 03:24:30 PM
For anyone looking for the 47XX E400s before they get repainted/transferred 4776 is on the 935 today.MMCs 6749/6744/6746 also on 934/5/6 today

4776 has been out on 934/5/6 most days the last week. I believe this one is staying at WA as its the college bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 24, 2015, 03:41:35 PM
Oh Ok. thanks for the info @BU07 LGO. I was just assuming all would go to Coventry and was quite surprised to see it. That will explain why.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 25, 2015, 05:08:34 PM
There is a decker board on the 40/41 which is what 4733 is most likely on.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 25, 2015, 05:10:24 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 25, 2015, 05:08:34 PM
There is a decker board on the 40/41 which is what 4733 is most likely on.

It's on 41/01 board if I remember correctly. Will go on the 89 later.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on August 25, 2015, 05:48:38 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 25, 2015, 05:10:24 PM
It's on 41/01 board if I remember correctly. Will go on the 89 later.

There are two, 4733 and 4736. 4258 is also on there. Double Deckers are a regular (and often daily occurance) on the 40/1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 25, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
Regarding the NX coaches at Walsall. What routes do they operate?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 25, 2015, 06:50:24 PM
Quote from: John on August 25, 2015, 06:46:58 PM
Regarding the NX coaches at Walsall. What routes do they operate?

The former Whittle's NX diagrams 409, 444 & 545
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 25, 2015, 07:02:16 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2015, 06:50:24 PM
The former Whittle's NX diagrams 409, 444 & 545

Thanks Winston. Is that all journeys or just some?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 25, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
Quote from: John on August 25, 2015, 07:02:16 PM
Thanks Winston. Is that all journeys or just some?

I believe it is all on the 409 & 545, and some on the 444 (starting/finishing in Hereford)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on August 25, 2015, 07:15:58 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 25, 2015, 07:03:10 PM
I believe it is all on the 409 & 545, and some on the 444
@John
NX409 arrive at Birmingham Digbeth 1230 and departs about 1330 (Could be one of Ex Whittles or new BK15 NXWM B9Rs)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on August 26, 2015, 09:45:32 AM
I see that 6738 appears to have the reg LFG 'greyed out' and not LFD. Have the regs been changed?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 26, 2015, 12:34:56 PM
Quote from: Stevo on August 26, 2015, 09:45:32 AM
I see that 6738 appears to have the reg LFG 'greyed out' and not LFD. Have the regs been changed?
@Stevo if U look very carefully at the reg plate of 6738 it does read SN15LFD as the tape  seems to distort the D to look like a G
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 04:33:39 PM
Hello all,

I wouldn't post this but I'm having trouble deciohering the X51 timetable (I have a Cannock appointment tomorrow). When does the first journey start at which frequency (To Cannock not Walsall) and how long is it from Birmingham to Cannock.

Thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 26, 2015, 04:36:48 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 04:33:39 PM
Hello all,

I wouldn't post this but I'm having trouble deciohering the X51 timetable (I have a Cannock appointment tomorrow). When does the first journey start at which frequency (To Cannock not Walsall) and how long is it from Birmingham to Cannock.

Thanks

2 journeys in the afternoon - 17:05 and 17:25 ex Birmingham. It takes 1 hour and 13 minutes to Cannock.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 04:44:41 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 26, 2015, 04:36:48 PM
2 journeys in the afternoon - 17:05 and 17:25 ex Birmingham. It takes 1 hour and 13 minutes to Cannock.

Are their any morning journeys ?!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 26, 2015, 04:45:48 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 04:44:41 PM
Are their any morning journeys ?!

I would have mentioned them if there were any... ::) The (early) morning journeys are from Cannock to Birmingham.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 04:51:06 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 26, 2015, 04:45:48 PM
I would have mentioned them if there were any... ::) The (early) morning journeys are from Cannock to Birmingham.

Well this is awkward, how do I get to Cannock for 9 in the morning !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 26, 2015, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 04:51:06 PM


Well this is awkward, how do I get to Cannock for 9 in the morning !

Bus into Wolverhampton then 154 at 07.25 to get there for 9
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on August 26, 2015, 04:56:13 PM
Alternatively there is the train or Arriva Service 1 from Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 26, 2015, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 26, 2015, 04:54:53 PM
Bus into Wolverhampton then 154 at 07.25 to get there for 9

Or Train

Or X51 to Walsall then number 1

Or 936/56 to Brownhills then 33
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 05:06:40 PM
I'm not knowledgeable on Trains but getting into Wolverhampton for 7:25 when I live Stechford seems awfully long and tiring

I'm thinking of the Arriva service 1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 26, 2015, 05:17:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 26, 2015, 05:05:48 PM
Or Train

Or X51 to Walsall then number 1

Or 936/56 to Brownhills then 33

Sorry @Tony but he didn't specify if he can use arriva ect. so just used the NX option
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 26, 2015, 06:04:43 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 26, 2015, 05:17:30 PM
Sorry @Tony but he didn't specify if he can use arriva ect. so just used the NX option

He didn't specify NX only either, so why send him probably the longest route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on August 26, 2015, 06:05:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 26, 2015, 06:04:43 PM
He didn't specify NX only either, so why send him probably the longest route

Just at that point the only route that sprung to mind, I apologise for not knowing all routes to Cannock.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on August 26, 2015, 06:55:59 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 05:06:40 PM
I'm not knowledgeable on Trains but getting into Wolverhampton for 7:25 when I live Stechford seems awfully long and tiring

I'm thinking of the Arriva service 1

A lot quicker than catching 2/3 buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 08:51:58 PM
I heavily appreciate all the help but I'll be taking the X51 and then the Arriva No 1, do I get fhe latter from the bus station ?!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 26, 2015, 08:53:56 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 08:51:58 PM
I heavily appreciate all the help but I'll be taking the X51 and then the Arriva No 1, do I get fhe latter from the bus station ?!

It goes from a stop outside the job centre, virtually opposite where the buses go into the main part of the bus station
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Cheese on August 26, 2015, 09:03:26 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on August 26, 2015, 08:51:58 PM
I heavily appreciate all the help but I'll be taking the X51 and then the Arriva No 1, do I get fhe latter from the bus station ?!

You would need to be on the 07:10 X51 from Birmingham to Walsall to properly connect with the 08:08 1 to Cannock, the next X51 from Birmingham only arrives 3 mins before the 1 leaves which might not be enough to get to Hatherton Road, and the next 1 doesn't get to Cannock till after 9.  Or, just get the 08:07 train from New Street to Cannock arriving 08:43...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on August 26, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Try Traveline west midlands. Put in Stechford to Cannock arrive by 9 and you get the 14, the Outer Circle and other routes you'd never think of. Good entertainment when there's not much on telly!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 26, 2015, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: Stevo on August 26, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Try Traveline west midlands. Put in Stechford to Cannock arrive by 9 and you get the 14, the Outer Circle and other routes you'd never think of. Good entertainment when there's not much on telly!

I remember doing that trying to find the best route from Bloxwich to Great Bridge by bus.

It came up with changing at Stone Cross I seem to recall.

Wonder why it did that?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 27, 2015, 02:04:40 PM
I found myself on 6733 on the X51 today and could not stop myself whistling Banjo Patterson's greatest hit!  (Work it out...)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 28, 2015, 08:57:00 AM
All Platinums up to 6750 are now delivered
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on August 28, 2015, 09:11:59 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 28, 2015, 08:57:00 AM
All Platinums up to 6750 are now delivered
Are any 934/5/6 ones out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 28, 2015, 09:46:42 AM
Quote from: RS on August 28, 2015, 09:11:59 AM
Are any 934/5/6 ones out

They've been out weeks!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 28, 2015, 11:35:39 AM
6720 is out on display outside Walsall Art Gallery.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 28, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 28, 2015, 11:35:39 AM
6720 is out on display outside Walsall Art Gallery.
Seems to nameless..
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 28, 2015, 02:29:00 PM
Would NX have the X51 going to Cannock once an hour? With its frequency going up to every 10 mins once an hour off peak as trial wouldn't hurt

Also i remember the 40 was diverted to serve portabello last year as a trial was it successful as the times i used to go to willenhall its had a few loadings?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on August 28, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on August 28, 2015, 01:14:42 PM
Seems to nameless..
I assume its for a competition... That's what they did with 6702 at the Bullring a while back. The ptize prize is a year's free travel, isn't it?

EDIT: I was using my phone to write this; hence the typo... Haha! @P419 EJW
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 28, 2015, 03:53:59 PM
Quote from: clayderman on August 28, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
I assume its for a competition... That's what they did with 6702 at the Bullring a while back. The ptize is a year's free travel, isn't it?

Yes, the ptize was a year's free travel on bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 28, 2015, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 28, 2015, 11:35:39 AM
6720 is out on display outside Walsall Art Gallery.

Saw that in Bradford Place around 545 tonite.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 28, 2015, 10:40:54 PM
Quote from: Chris on August 28, 2015, 02:29:00 PM
Would NX have the X51 going to Cannock once an hour? With its frequency going up to every 10 mins once an hour off peak as trial wouldn't hurt

Also i remember the 40 was diverted to serve portabello last year as a trial was it successful as the times i used to go to willenhall its had a few loadings?

WA40 still runs via Moseley and Vaughan Roads
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on August 29, 2015, 08:17:54 AM
Itd be great if they did once an hour. Maybe run it direct after Bridgtown to Walsall, cant see it happening tho.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on August 29, 2015, 11:45:04 AM
Haven't seen this mentioned yet. Walsall low fare zone

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/walsall-low-fare-zone
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 29, 2015, 02:26:14 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on August 29, 2015, 11:45:04 AM
Haven't seen this mentioned yet. Walsall low fare zone

http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/walsall-low-fare-zone

Strange that it goes as far as west brom
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 29, 2015, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 29, 2015, 02:26:14 PM
Strange that it goes as far as west brom

Doesn't NXWM already offer special return fares on their 4/4H & 4M?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 29, 2015, 03:52:09 PM
They've kept it quiet.

Only noticed on that West Midlands Bus User Facebook page today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 29, 2015, 03:54:50 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 29, 2015, 03:52:09 PM
They've kept it quiet.

Only noticed on that West Midlands Bus User Facebook page today.

And I only shared it there after uniquicity posted the link here.  ;)

Looks like they 'tweeted' it only this morning, talk about leaving it to the last minute.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 29, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
Quote from: Stu on August 29, 2015, 03:54:50 PM
And I only shared it there after uniquicity posted the link here.  ;)

Looks like they 'tweeted' it only this morning, talk about leaving it to the last minute.

Bit like the changes this weekend, the posters for the Walsall changes only appeared yesterday morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 29, 2015, 06:17:15 PM
Also the 936 route is changing next week, couldn't see any info online but it will do the 935a route between anchor bridge and streets corner via chester road and shire oak
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 31, 2015, 12:35:38 PM
The allocation for Sunday service on the 6 (and whatever it interworks with on Sunday service) seems to have changed from B7RLE to Enviro400. 2 473*s and 4869 are what I've seen
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on August 31, 2015, 07:04:32 PM
Quote from: John on August 31, 2015, 12:35:38 PM
The allocation for Sunday service on the 6 (and whatever it interworks with on Sunday service) seems to have changed from B7RLE to Enviro400. 2 473*s and 4869 are what I've seen
4338 on there too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 31, 2015, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: RS on August 31, 2015, 07:04:32 PM
4338 on there too

Think you are getting confused there Rhys, check the heading this post is in
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on August 31, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 31, 2015, 07:12:00 PM
Think you are getting confused there Rhys, check the heading this post is in
Thanks Tony are we talking about WA 6 OR YW6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: NXWM Spectra on August 31, 2015, 07:27:02 PM
Quote from: RS on August 31, 2015, 07:21:26 PM
Thanks Tony are we talking about WA 6 OR YW6

What garage are the three buses previously mentioned allocated to?
What thread is this discussion in?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jack5512 on September 01, 2015, 10:00:21 AM
i dont think 4737 is on 336 ive just seen
859 on 336
860 on 335
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 01, 2015, 10:03:19 AM
Quote from: jack4325 on September 01, 2015, 10:00:21 AM
i dont think 4737 is on 336 ive just seen
859 on 336
860 on 335

4737 did the first part of running board 336-01, but is now back in garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 01, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
1475 i on 40/1 today.  I thought they were due to be withdrawn at the end of August?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on September 01, 2015, 12:38:34 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on September 01, 2015, 12:19:27 PM
1475 i on 40/1 today.  I thought they were due to be withdrawn at the end of August?

1447 also on 40/41 I hear.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 02, 2015, 12:07:35 PM
1421 on 39
1436 on 40/1
1446 on 8

A Trident and a B7TL on 29
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on September 02, 2015, 12:28:53 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on September 02, 2015, 12:07:35 PM
1421 on 39
1436 on 40/1
1446 on 8

A Trident and a B7TL on 29

Anyone got any ideas of the timings for 1436 on the 40/41? Thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 02, 2015, 01:10:22 PM
From Walsall 1325 40, W'ton 1415 40, Wal 1510 41, Wal 1655 40.   I think!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 598 on September 02, 2015, 01:19:53 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on September 02, 2015, 01:10:22 PM
From Walsall 1325 40, W'ton 1415 40, Wal 1510 41, Wal 1655 40.   I think!

Cheers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 02, 2015, 02:58:04 PM
1446 involved a RTC with a car. It's my second bus crash..... ::) >:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on September 02, 2015, 03:22:32 PM
    :(  Is that the end of 1446 then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on September 02, 2015, 03:42:44 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 02, 2015, 03:22:32 PM
    :(  Is that the end of 1446 then?

Definitely yes if the picture on Aldridge Fires Twitter is anything to go by.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: trident4370 on September 02, 2015, 04:00:02 PM
https://twitter.com/AldridgeFire/status/639081008936169472
So the woman who's fault it was can afford an Audi but not a booster seat for her kid, says it all really.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 02, 2015, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 02, 2015, 03:22:32 PM
    :(  Is that the end of 1446 then?

I'm fine, thanks for asking(!) ::) 1446 is smashed on the left front, it is very likely for 1446 to head to the scrap yard.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on September 02, 2015, 05:06:23 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 02, 2015, 04:17:33 PM
I'm fine, thanks for asking(!) ::) 1446 is smashed on the left front, it is very likely for 1446 to head to the scrap yard.
Lucky escape for you wasn't it @P419 EJW unlike the drivers of 4520 & 1926 still a bad crash for you none the less matey. Shame 1446 is to be written off a few months or so before its time.

Did you have many passengers on 1446 before the crash??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 02, 2015, 05:10:44 PM
Repair budget for the B10Ls is likely to be £0, so sadly (as it was one of my favourite B10Ls when it was at PE) it will be goodbye 1446!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 02, 2015, 05:46:28 PM
I really need to get hunting again for them, I would really like to catch 1421 or 1436. I've caught 1475 and 1447 already
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on September 02, 2015, 06:18:07 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on September 02, 2015, 05:06:23 PM
Lucky escape for you wasn't it @P419 EJW unlike the drivers of 4520 & 1926 still a bad crash for you none the less matey. Shame 1446 is to be written off a few months or so before its time.

Did you have many passengers on 1446 before the crash??

I don't think he was driving.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 02, 2015, 06:52:44 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on September 02, 2015, 05:06:23 PM
Lucky escape for you wasn't it @P419 EJW unlike the drivers of 4520 & 1926 still a bad crash for you none the less matey. Shame 1446 is to be written off a few months or so before its time.

Did you have many passengers on 1446 before the crash??

I am not a bus driver but I am flattered to be assumed of. ;) I was a passenger on 1446. There were 9 passengers and a driver. Most of them were older aged around 50-70+ and me and this young guy. Bye bye 1446. :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on September 02, 2015, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 02, 2015, 06:52:44 PM
I am not a bus driver but I am flattered to be assumed of. ;) I was a passenger on 1446. There were 9 passengers and a driver. Most of them were older aged around 50-70+ and me and this young guy. Bye bye 1446. :(
Sorry bud it was the way I read it I took it U drove lol not a passenger my apologies @P419 EJW Yes bye bye 1446 another B10L to bite the dust
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ronnoc on September 02, 2015, 07:31:15 PM
How many B10L's does that leave us with?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on September 02, 2015, 07:34:13 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 02, 2015, 07:31:15 PM
How many B10L's does that leave us with?

1421, 1436, 1447, 1475
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 02, 2015, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 02, 2015, 07:31:15 PM
How many B10L's does that leave us with?

4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 02, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
1421 only has a couple of weeks left as well, hopefully the others will survive for a finale
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 02, 2015, 07:44:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
1421 only has a couple of weeks left as well, hopefully the others will survive for a finale

Mot expiry?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 02, 2015, 10:26:49 PM
Are Walsall actually short of buses at the moment?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 03, 2015, 11:06:27 AM
6751 is now out unbranded on the 934/5/6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 03, 2015, 01:45:58 PM
Quote from: John on September 03, 2015, 11:06:27 AM
6751 is now out unbranded on the 934/5/6

Theres another 6752?

They look loads better unbranded I think
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 03, 2015, 01:56:40 PM
6753 should be 'available'
6754 & 6755 will be ready tomorrow with
6756; 6757 & 6758 all due to be delivered today finishing the batch off
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 03, 2015, 02:24:08 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 03, 2015, 01:56:40 PM
6753 should be 'available'
6754 & 6755 will be ready tomorrow with
6756; 6757 & 6758 all due to be delivered today finishing the batch off

Great :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 03, 2015, 03:54:20 PM
Why do the Voith B7's rarely seem to get out of first gear lol?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on September 03, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
1446 dumped in yard all ticket machine equipment took off it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on September 03, 2015, 06:06:28 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on September 03, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
1446 dumped in yard all ticket machine equipment took off it
Pensnett Or Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on September 03, 2015, 06:07:42 PM
What thread is it in derrrr
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 03, 2015, 06:14:36 PM
Quote from: RS on September 03, 2015, 06:06:28 PM
Pensnett Or Walsall

Is it not obvious by the thread it is in?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 03, 2015, 06:15:28 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on September 03, 2015, 05:52:01 PM
1446 dumped in yard all ticket machine equipment took off it

Officially withdrawn today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 03, 2015, 06:21:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 03, 2015, 06:15:28 PM
Officially withdrawn today

Farewell and RIP
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 03, 2015, 07:33:31 PM
@Tony  4533 is parked up in the dead row with "do not move stickers" is it broken or about to transfer?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 03, 2015, 09:44:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 03, 2015, 01:56:40 PM
6753 should be 'available'
6754 & 6755 will be ready tomorrow with
6756; 6757 & 6758 all due to be delivered today finishing the batch off

@Tony  When you say "6754 & 6755 will be ready tomorrow"... Does that mean they will be ready for service tomorrow or they will be made ready tomorrow?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on September 03, 2015, 09:46:23 PM
I'm sure I saw 6755 tonight
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JIM H on September 03, 2015, 11:38:09 PM
Caught 6755 from Perry Barr to Birmingham this afternoon at about 14.30
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 05:11:30 PM
Something interesting about to pass Sandwell and Dudley for Halesowen if @Trident 4194 is interested...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 04, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 05:11:30 PM
Something interesting about to pass Sandwell and Dudley for Halesowen if @Trident 4194 is interested...

A B10L on 4H?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2015, 05:14:29 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 05:11:30 PM
Something interesting about to pass Sandwell and Dudley for Halesowen if @Trident 4194 is interested...

B10? 1475?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 05:16:28 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2015, 05:14:29 PM
B10? 1475?

Quote from: P419 EJW on September 04, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
A B10L on 4H?

It's 1447....its just passed the Sainsburys megastore in Oldbury
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2015, 05:18:46 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 05:16:28 PM
It's 1447....its just passed the Sainsburys megastore in Oldbury

I've already had a ride on that one 😉 need 1421 next weekend though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 04, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 05:16:28 PM
It's 1447....its just passed the Sainsburys megastore in Oldbury

Aha! So that's where 1447 is! Thanks, @the trainbasher. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2015, 05:31:36 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 04, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
Aha! So that's where 1447 is! Thanks, @the trainbasher. :)

Where were the rest of the b10s?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 04, 2015, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 05:16:28 PM
It's 1447....its just passed the Sainsburys megastore in Oldbury

Ive always considered it a superstore personally :p
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on September 04, 2015, 08:16:39 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 04, 2015, 08:12:10 PM
Ive always considered it a superstore personally :p

Me and my family still refer to it as the 'Savacentre'  8)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 08:26:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on September 04, 2015, 08:16:39 PM
Me and my family still refer to it as the 'Savacentre'  8)

Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 04, 2015, 08:12:10 PM
Ive always considered it a superstore personally :p

I was tempted to say Sainsbury's SavaCentre but I didn't want to confuse any of the under 20s on here ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2015, 08:30:37 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 04, 2015, 08:26:23 PM
I was tempted to say Sainsbury's SavaCentre but I didn't want to confuse any of the under 20s on here ;)

I know as it as saver centre I'm 15
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 04, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
65 plate mmc at garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 05, 2015, 10:02:02 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 04, 2015, 08:47:23 PM
65 plate mmc at garage

Picutres on Flickr show

6757 as 'SN65 ZBW'
6758 as 'SN65 ZBX'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 05, 2015, 10:11:26 AM
Quote from: John on September 05, 2015, 10:02:02 AM
Picutres on Flickr show

6757 as 'SN65 ZBW'
6758 as 'SN65 ZBX'

I wonder if the others that entered service this week would possibly be re registered? I suppose it depends when they were taxed?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 05, 2015, 11:15:43 AM
Driver of the X51 from Cannock the other morning said there's talk of SIX possible new routes potentially into Staffordshire!  Wonder if this'll come to anything
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on September 05, 2015, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: John on September 05, 2015, 10:02:02 AM
Picutres on Flickr show

6757 as 'SN65 ZBW'
6758 as 'SN65 ZBX'

There's a ZBY too. Guess this is 6758, with those two being 6756 & 6757...


https://www.flickr.com/photos/45168281@N05/21143479945/in/photolist-ydnRXF (https://www.flickr.com/photos/45168281@N05/21143479945/in/photolist-ydnRXF)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 05, 2015, 02:12:51 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 05, 2015, 11:15:43 AM
Driver of the X51 from Cannock the other morning said there's talk of SIX possible new routes potentially into Staffordshire!  Wonder if this'll come to anything

And whats the betting i54 will be involved in some way?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 05, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 05, 2015, 11:15:43 AM
Driver of the X51 from Cannock the other morning said there's talk of SIX possible new routes potentially into Staffordshire!  Wonder if this'll come to anything

Anything is possible I guess, we never expected NXWM to bid for SCC tenders originally. As they already operate deep in to Staffordshire with the 54/154/854 routes and the smaller operators appear to be doing well competing against Arriva, there's always a chance NXWM might decide to expand their presence further in to Staffs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2015, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on September 05, 2015, 01:58:17 PM
There's a ZBY too. Guess this is 6758, with those two being 6756 & 6757...


https://www.flickr.com/photos/45168281@N05/21143479945/in/photolist-ydnRXF (https://www.flickr.com/photos/45168281@N05/21143479945/in/photolist-ydnRXF)

ZBY has the VIN I have for 6756
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 05, 2015, 03:55:32 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 05, 2015, 02:15:28 PM
Anything is possible I guess, we never expected NXWM to bid for SCC tenders originally. As they already operate deep in to Staffordshire with the 54/154/854 routes and the smaller operators appear to be doing well competing against Arriva, there's always a chance NXWM might decide to expand their presence further in to Staffs

My money would be on a Cannock to Walsall route. Especially now Arriva have f#### up the 1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on September 05, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
Walsall buses have £2.50 return route branding 2nd window n/s next to buggy zone

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/20549960283/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2015, 05:48:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2015, 02:34:42 PM
ZBY has the VIN I have for 6756

Just confirmed ZBY is 6756
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 05, 2015, 05:50:12 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on September 05, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
Walsall buses have £2.50 return route branding 2nd window n/s next to buggy zone

Which ones? Surely not all buses have it or do they?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2015, 05:51:01 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 05, 2015, 05:50:12 PM
Which ones? Surely not all buses have it or do they?

Yes, all are having them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 05, 2015, 05:51:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2015, 05:51:01 PM
Yes, all are having them

Oh, is it because of the low fare zone?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on September 05, 2015, 06:10:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2015, 05:48:36 PM
Just confirmed ZBY is 6756

Thanks for confirming that. Now waiting to see what reg 2225 and 2235 get :p
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on September 05, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
Quote from: uniquicity on September 05, 2015, 06:10:01 PM
Thanks for confirming that. Now waiting to see what reg 2225 and 2235 get :p
the main site says 2235 is YX65PXA @uniquicity
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on September 05, 2015, 09:57:21 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on September 05, 2015, 06:12:04 PM
the main site says 2235 is YX65PXA @uniquicity

Yeah it's in the garage. Seen the day before yesterday, or was it yesterday, I can't remember. 2234/5 getting fueled up. Presumably for the first time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 06, 2015, 12:41:46 AM
Quote from: B10L1473 on September 05, 2015, 05:12:41 PM
Walsall buses have £2.50 return route branding 2nd window n/s next to buggy zone

https://www.flickr.com/photos/74108043@N06/20549960283/

If you look at the map on the flyer, they have a funny definition of the Walsall area!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on September 06, 2015, 12:54:00 AM
@Westy I think it goes to West Bromwich to compete against a company which has Urbans branded as "Value"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 06, 2015, 01:01:45 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 06, 2015, 12:54:00 AM
@Westy I think it goes to West Bromwich to compete against a company which has Urbans branded as "Value"

@the trainbasher

Do you remember the old Walsall area travelcard?

That included trips to Wednesbury Bus Station(Sandwell), the section of the 79 between Darlo & Wednesbury, in fact the whole Walsall borough, then Cannock & Hednesford later.

The Walsall western boundary as per the 529 is the Portobello island, not Shepwell Green.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on September 06, 2015, 01:04:45 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 06, 2015, 01:01:45 AM
@the trainbasher

Do you remember the old Walsall area travelcard?

That included trips to Wednesbury Bus Station(Sandwell), the section of the 79 between Darlo & Wednesbury, in fact the whole Walsall borough, then Cannock & Hednesford later.

The Walsall western boundary as per the 529 is the Portobello island, not Shepwell Green.

I think that may have been a little before my time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on September 06, 2015, 01:40:50 PM
Quote from: MW on September 05, 2015, 09:57:21 PM
Yeah it's in the garage. Seen the day before yesterday, or was it yesterday, I can't remember. 2234/5 getting fueled up. Presumably for the first time.
I know its off topic but is 2225 at AG yet @MW
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 06, 2015, 04:58:37 PM
I had 6721 today the only platinum so far to have the next stop announcements working (well on x51 and 997 they do) and it reads out two stops the x51 doesn't stop at! - Walsall Road/Booths farm road and cant remember what its called but the one in Walsall by the lidl just after shell!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on September 06, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 06, 2015, 04:58:37 PM
I had 6721 today the only platinum so far to have the next stop announcements working (well on x51 and 997 they do) and it reads out two stops the x51 doesn't stop at! - Walsall Road/Booths farm road and cant remember what its called but the one in Walsall by the lidl just after shell!

I had this bus the other day and noticed the same. It also refers to the Birmingham Rd/Ring Road stop as the Travelodge. I know to locals they'll know what this is and the stop is actually called this, but the actual hotel is now the Metro Inn.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 06, 2015, 05:06:54 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 06, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
I had this bus the other day and noticed the same. It also refers to the Birmingham Rd/Ring Road stop as the Travelodge. I know to locals they'll know what this is and the stop is actually called this, but the actual hotel is now the Metro Inn.


I noticed that too, that actual fare stage is Travelodge though!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 06, 2015, 07:01:14 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 06, 2015, 05:06:54 PM

I noticed that too, that actual fare stage is Travelodge though!

Most people I know know it as the Boundary hotel
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 07, 2015, 08:15:03 AM
Can @Tony clarify as to wether the 700 School Service has the main allocations as Double Decks or still E200's as 4262 is on this morning when it was E200's every day last academic year
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 07, 2015, 08:59:53 AM
Quote from: Dom on September 07, 2015, 08:15:03 AM
Can @Tony clarify as to wether the 700 School Service has the main allocations as Double Decks or still E200's as 4262 is on this morning when it was E200's every day last academic year

It's allocated  trident / b7 alx
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 07, 2015, 11:16:29 AM
@jamesodonoghue126 that's not noteworthy but does belong in route branded off route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 07, 2015, 06:56:36 PM
Has anyone got the names of 4882/4884? (And any others that may have been done)

I appreciate most of these have moved on to Central
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 07, 2015, 07:39:32 PM
Quote from: John on September 07, 2015, 06:56:36 PM
Has anyone got the names of 4882/4884? (And any others that may have been done)

I appreciate most of these have moved on to Central

Can't remember which is which but there's a becky but that might be 4883?

4884 is a long double barrel Name begins with sh I think, it's bugging me now!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 07, 2015, 07:45:42 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 07, 2015, 07:39:32 PM
Can't remember which is which but there's a becky but that might be 4883?

4884 is a long double barrel Name begins with sh I think, it's bugging me now!

4884 isn't supposed to be named
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 07, 2015, 07:46:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 07, 2015, 07:45:42 PM
4884 isn't supposed to be named

There's defibateky one of the 13 plates with a long sh name! 4881 is Lucy, maybe it's another one

Edit: it's 4880 shy-Ann I was thinking of!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on September 07, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
Quote from: John on September 07, 2015, 06:56:36 PM
Has anyone got the names of 4882/4884? (And any others that may have been done)

I appreciate most of these have moved on to Central

@John 4882 is named Becky :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 07, 2015, 08:40:21 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on September 07, 2015, 08:26:14 PM
@John 4882 is named Becky :)

Thanks Rob.

Did any of the other 487*s (not the old Express branded ones) now at Central get named before departure? I could of sworn that I saw a couple of these with names while still at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on September 08, 2015, 09:34:54 AM
6752 on 935 (0930 from Birmingham)
6755 on X51 (0932 from Birmingham)
6754 on X51 (1010 from Birmingham)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
Hi All ,

Just one quick question, on the shift boards/duty cards, top right corner for example, in big bold e.g 29-WA05 is that the duty no/shift no or the bus run no/bus working no?

Regards
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on September 10, 2015, 12:57:03 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 12:54:13 PM
Hi All ,

Just one quick question, on the shift boards/duty cards, top right corner for example, in big bold e.g 29-WA05 is that the duty no/shift no or the bus run no/bus working no?

Regards

Running board number.

For example, I take over 11C/10 later.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 01:02:53 PM
Cheers, thought it was, so if the MF rte 29 1805 walsall to bloxwich is WA29-05 will the next bus due out be 06? or does it not work in order like in London bar the spread over/layovers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 03:25:02 PM
Is the total Walsall bus fleet now at 183 buses ?

DE855
DE856
DE857
DE858
DE859
DE860
1421
1436
1446
1447
1475
1750
1751
1752
1753
1754
1755
1756
1757
1758
1759
1760
1761
1762
1763
1764
1765
1766
1767
1768
1769
1770
1771
1772
1773
1848
1849
1850
1851
1852
1853
1854
1855
1856
1857
1858
1859
1860
1861
1862
1978
1979
1980
1981
1982
1983
1984
1985
1986
1987
1988
1989
1990
1991
1992
1993
1994
1995
1918
4125
4126
4127
4128
4129
4130
4131
4132
4133
4142
4305
4306
4307
4308
4309
4326
4327
4328
4329
4330
4331
4332
4258
4259
4260
4261
4262
4263
4264
4292
4293
4294
4295
4296
4297
4298
4299
4300
4301
4302
4303
4304
4527
4528
4529
4530
4531
4532
4533
4534
4733
4734
4735
4736
4737
4776
4869
4870
4871
4872
4857
4858
4859
4860
4861
4862
4863
4864
4865
4866
4867
4868
4877
4881
6719
6720
6721
6722
6723
6724
6725
6726
6727
6728
6729
6730
6731
6732
6733
6734
6735
6736
6737
6738
6739
6740
6741
6742
6743
6744
6745
6746
6747
6748
6749
6750
6751
6752
6753
6754
6755
6756
6757
6758
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kiewii on September 10, 2015, 03:32:51 PM
What are 1978 to 1995?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 10, 2015, 03:38:33 PM
I make it 193 buses at present:

1446 is withdrawn
1837-1847 & 4105 are all missing off your list
4872 may still be at WA (unless I've missed a report)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 10, 2015, 03:43:42 PM
Quote from: Kiewii on September 10, 2015, 03:32:51 PM
What are 1978 to 1995?

1878-1895
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on September 10, 2015, 03:44:56 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 10, 2015, 03:38:33 PM
I make it 193 buses at present:

1446 is withdrawn
1837-1847 & 4105 are all missing off your list
4872 may still be at WA (unless I've missed a report)

4105 was sighted on the 451, so appears to be working off WB.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 10, 2015, 03:46:33 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on September 10, 2015, 03:44:56 PM
4105 was sighted on the 451, so appears to be working off WB.

It's on loan I believe, but still allocated to WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 03:55:44 PM
Cheers Guys
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 10, 2015, 03:46:33 PM
It's on loan I believe, but still allocated to WA

Thought 4105 was a loan to WA? now its moved to WB, probably left WA as WA dont have any more plaxton presidents
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 04:01:41 PM
My updated WA Fleet, thanks guys for pointing out the mistakes = 193 now.

855   1421   1750   1762   1837   1848   1982   4125   4258   4527   4733   6719   6743
856   1436   1751   1763   1838   1849   1983   4126   4259   4528   4734   6720   6744
857   1446w   1752   1764   1839   1850   1984   4127   4260   4529   4735   6721   6745
858   1447   1753   1765   1840   1851   1985   4128   4261   4530   4736   6722   6746
859   1475   1754   1766   1841   1852   1986   4129   4262   4531   4737   6723   6747
860      1755   1767   1842   1853   1987   4130   4263   4532   4776   6724   6748
      1756   1768   1843   1854   1988   4131   4264   4533   4869   6725   6749
      1757   1769   1844   1855   1989   4132   4292   4534   4870   6726   6750
      1758   1770   1845   1856   1990   4133   4293      4871   6727   6751
4105      1759   1771   1846   1857   1991   4142   4294      4872   6728   6752
      1760   1772   1847   1858   1992   4305   4295      4857   6729   6753
      1761   1773      1859   1993   4306   4296      4858   6730   6754
               1860   1994   4307   4297      4859   6731   6755
               1861   1995   4308   4298      4860   6732   6756
               1862   1918   4309   4299      4861   6733   6757
               1978      4326   4300      4862   6734   6758
               1979      4327   4301      4863   6735   
               1980      4328   4302      4864   6736   
               1981      4329   4303      4865   6737   
                     4330   4304      4866   6738   
                     4331         4867   6739   
                     4332         4868   6740   
                              4877   6741   
                              4881   6742   
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on September 10, 2015, 04:05:28 PM
Are all the platinums in service then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 04:14:47 PM
Looks that way mate  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on September 10, 2015, 04:23:09 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on September 10, 2015, 03:44:56 PM
4105 was sighted on the 451, so appears to be working off WB.
451?!? Going back a few years aren't you! ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on September 10, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
4527 4533 look withdrawn at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 04:32:53 PM
Have they not been used lately? I thought It was only some E400s and those Volvo Single deckers being withdawn once all the MMC arrived?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 10, 2015, 07:00:07 PM
When is 1421 going to die?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 10, 2015, 07:01:35 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 10, 2015, 07:00:07 PM
When is 1421 going to die?

Very soon (I haven't got an exact date); 1475 probably won't run again. 1436 & 1447 should be the two on the last day of B10Ls
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on September 10, 2015, 07:25:08 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 10, 2015, 07:01:35 PM
Very soon (I haven't got an exact date); 1475 probably won't run again. 1436 & 1447 should be the two on the last day of B10Ls
Will 1421 make it to Saturday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bryan on September 10, 2015, 07:39:37 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 10, 2015, 07:01:35 PM
Very soon (I haven't got an exact date); 1475 probably won't run again. 1436 & 1447 should be the two on the last day of B10Ls

I was extremely happy today to get a chance to ride on 1447 on the 39 from Wolverhampton to Walsall today, the first time I had been on one of the type for a few years, and no doubt my last whilst in service :-(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 10, 2015, 07:40:42 PM
Quote from: Bryan on September 10, 2015, 07:39:37 PM
I was extremely happy today to get a chance to ride on 1447 on the 39 from Wolverhampton to Walsall today, the first time I had been on one of the type for a few years, and no doubt my last whilst in service :-(

They were certainly better than B10bs!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 10, 2015, 07:56:09 PM
Tony

Route 29, how comes the deckers dont stay out till late ? Or are they allocated to working nos that finish early in the evenings?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JIM H on September 10, 2015, 08:01:07 PM
6756 & 6757 worked into Birmingham this afternoon without fleet numbers on the fronts and sides, only applied on the rears.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on September 10, 2015, 08:35:51 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on September 10, 2015, 04:30:33 PM
4527 4533 look withdrawn at Walsall
If they're not to be disposed of I wonder of they'll be the first B7TLs in crimson as they both have old repaints.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on September 10, 2015, 09:35:19 PM
Quote from: Stevo on September 10, 2015, 08:35:51 PM
If they're not to be disposed of I wonder of they'll be the first B7TLs in crimson as they both have old repaints.
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I think they'll transfer somewhere but waiting for repaint retrim first
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 10, 2015, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on September 10, 2015, 09:35:19 PM
Quote from: Stevo on September 10, 2015, 08:35:51 PM
If they're not to be disposed of I wonder of they'll be the first B7TLs in crimson as they both have old repaints.

I think they'll transfer somewhere but waiting for repaint retrim first

Can't see them withdrawing them!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 10, 2015, 09:44:43 PM
Double quotes?!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on September 10, 2015, 09:46:18 PM
So - Dundee green, then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 10, 2015, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 10, 2015, 09:44:43 PM
Double quotes?!

Only because i corrected the previous quote!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 10, 2015, 09:48:02 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 10, 2015, 09:47:15 PM
Only because i corrected the previous quote!

Oh
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on September 11, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 10, 2015, 04:23:09 PM
451?!? Going back a few years aren't you! ;)

LOL - it will always be the 451 to Suttonians, likewise the 377 and 366.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 11, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
Does the 89 and 8 buses do both routes in one day or is it just the duties that do the two routes?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 11, 2015, 12:24:59 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on September 11, 2015, 12:12:04 PM
Does the 89 and 8 buses do both routes in one day or is it just the duties that do the two routes?

The 8/89 interwork at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on September 11, 2015, 12:40:30 PM
Cheers Nathan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 11, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on September 11, 2015, 09:00:34 AM
LOL - it will always be the 451 to Suttonians, likewise the 377 and 366.

And 107!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 11, 2015, 01:46:10 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 11, 2015, 01:39:25 PM
And 107!

But go back far enough and the 366 was the 6!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on September 11, 2015, 03:13:52 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on September 11, 2015, 01:46:10 PM
But go back far enough and the 366 was the 6!

Indeed - that's the one I can forgive  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 11, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
Either theres a fault with the Nx app or theres a missing bus.

Got to Parkway just before 1650 & there was a Scania parked up Not In Service.

This bus then departed a few mins later, changing to 311 as it did so.

The app now says 1710 for the next bus, so where is the one around 1700 then?

1718 & 1768 turns up, driven by my friend's sister, who said she was hslf hour behind(I think).

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bryan on September 11, 2015, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 11, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
Either theres a fault with the Nx app or theres a missing bus.

Got to Parkway just before 1650 & there was a Scania parked up Not In Service.

This bus then departed a few mins later, changing to 311 as it did so.

The app now says 1710 for the next bus, so where is the one around 1700 then?

1718 & 1768 turns up, driven by my friend's sister, who said she was hslf hour behind(I think).

Was this a NX app or the information provided at a bus stop by Centro?

A few days ago I was stood at a stop with a countdown of the time reducing until my bus until shown as 'Due'. It stayed as due for a couple of minutes and then changed to 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on September 11, 2015, 08:31:54 PM
Quote from: Bryan on September 11, 2015, 08:04:15 PM
Was this a NX app or the information provided at a bus stop by Centro?

A few days ago I was stood at a stop with a countdown of the time reducing until my bus until shown as 'Due'. It stayed as due for a couple of minutes and then changed to 5 minutes.
To be honest, I've always found the app quite reliable. I know the real time departures can be off by one minute, at most - and if it shows a 'due time', then I'll just give up hope that it'll turn up in the first place! - and it's happened before... ::) *cough* 24 *cough*
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on September 11, 2015, 08:58:37 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 11, 2015, 05:02:53 PM
Either theres a fault with the Nx app or theres a missing bus.

Got to Parkway just before 1650 & there was a Scania parked up Not In Service.

This bus then departed a few mins later, changing to 311 as it did so.

The app now says 1710 for the next bus, so where is the one around 1700 then?

1718 & 1768 turns up, driven by my friend's sister, who said she was hslf hour behind(I think).

Could have been worse. It wasn't raining. I love how people in urban areas get worked up waiting an extra few minutes for a bus for any of the usual, non fictional reasons. Mind you country bumpkins aren't much more forgiving.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 12, 2015, 03:57:31 PM
It's supposed to be a 10 minute service!

Anyway 1447(I think?) was on the 302 earlier around 1330 in Bloxwich.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 12, 2015, 04:11:22 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 12, 2015, 03:57:31 PM
It's supposed to be a 10 minute service!

Anyway 1447(I think?) was on the 302 earlier around 1330 in Bloxwich.

Yes, 1436 and 1447 are on 302 today. 1421 and 1475 were not out today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on September 12, 2015, 04:19:01 PM
6757 out again today on X51 still with only numbers on the back.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on September 15, 2015, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 15, 2015, 04:44:30 PM
Just heard 6751 and 6757 are on the 77 and the driver of 4301 had a Platinum tie on. Is the 77 going Platinum?

If the 77 was a platinum probably a peak time board.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 15, 2015, 04:59:03 PM
Tony already posted on here, theres 2 on 77 today as they were spare and it was probably a platinum driver on overtime
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 15, 2015, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 15, 2015, 04:44:30 PM
Just heard 6751 and 6757 are on the 77 and the driver of 4301 had a Platinum tie on. Is the 77 going Platinum?

NO!! Tony has stated that they were spares @Michael Bevan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 15, 2015, 10:27:25 PM
No need to post noteworthy sightings about a double decker on WA336 because it does the school route 858 in the morning then do 336 till the end. The vehicle allocation can be either an E200 or a double decker, particularly a Volvo B7TL ALX400 (that's what it was written in pen on the running board today).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 16, 2015, 08:33:02 AM
President is on School Service 701. Is this 4105 or has it he operated by WB today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 16, 2015, 08:44:45 AM
Quote from: Dom on September 16, 2015, 08:33:02 AM
President is on School Service 701. Is this 4105 or has it he operated by WB today?

Yes

Walsall are using 4105 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on September 17, 2015, 08:01:15 AM
4105 came out on a pm peak board 10/A yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on September 17, 2015, 10:22:50 AM
Has the withdrawal of 1421 and 1475 been confirmed?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 17, 2015, 12:41:15 PM
1436 and 1447 on 34/8/9 today. Together in Darlaston at 11.30.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on September 17, 2015, 04:26:16 PM
6723 lying dead on Doe Bank Lane
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Cheese on September 19, 2015, 12:53:26 PM
6721 is on the 77, just about to leave Walsall Bus Station, looks like it's the 12:40 running about 13 late so maybe a bus swop?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on September 19, 2015, 02:53:38 PM
4105 was towed from wolves bus station by a mansfield truck around ten past one.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 19, 2015, 05:44:41 PM
Wasn't 4105 brought to Walsall for a contract service or something similar? I thought I read it wasn't for normal service. Hopefully it is out next week when I get back
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 19, 2015, 06:10:23 PM
Spotted a X51 branded vehicle on the 934 earlier in Walsall.

Surely it should be a generic Platinum branded vehicle?

Does this happen often?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 19, 2015, 06:19:01 PM
Quote from: John on September 19, 2015, 05:44:41 PM
Wasn't 4105 brought to Walsall for a contract service or something similar? I thought I read it wasn't for normal service. Hopefully it is out next week when I get back

Well @John I think considering that Platinums are getting onto the 77 there's got to be some shortage meaning anything FFS will probably be out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on September 19, 2015, 06:20:45 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 19, 2015, 06:10:23 PM
Spotted a X51 branded vehicle on the 934 earlier in Walsall.

Surely it should be a generic Platinum branded vehicle?

Does this happen often?

It happens pretty much everyday and it's mentioned like it's a crime. If they subbed it for a B10L then I could understand. Its like people moaning about Arriva Streetlites on the 110. No drop in service quality, just promotes other services
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 19, 2015, 06:26:27 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 19, 2015, 06:19:01 PM
Well @John I think considering that Platinums are getting onto the 77 there's got to be some shortage meaning anything FFS will probably be out.

No shortage
Walsall have 182 buses for a PVR of 163 exactly in line with NX's spares policy and have put a full service out every day. That means 19 engineering spares or buses that can be off the road at any time. If all 40 Platinums are serviceable and 19 other buses are due inspection or off the road then spare Platinums will be used, the same as BC send them out on the 829 / 9 some days
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 19, 2015, 07:51:34 PM
Here is Walsall's latest new addition which I had the pleasure of driving today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0116-0422/92.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on September 19, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
Quote from: John on September 19, 2015, 05:44:41 PM
Wasn't 4105 brought to Walsall for a contract service or something similar? I thought I read it wasn't for normal service. Hopefully it is out next week when I get back

With 4105, the only President at Walsall as far as I'm aware, being used on regular services is there an issue in finding drivers who a type trained for this vehicle?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 19, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on September 19, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
With 4105, the only President at Walsall as far as I'm aware, being used on regular services is there an issue in finding drivers who a type trained for this vehicle?

Volvo B7TL, Walsall have loads of them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bryan on September 19, 2015, 08:54:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 19, 2015, 07:51:34 PM
Here is Walsall's latest new addition which I had the pleasure of driving today
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0116-0422/92.html

I've no doubt I will not be popular here for saying this, but the vehicle design to me is just plain ugly!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on September 19, 2015, 09:35:51 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on September 19, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
With 4105, the only President at Walsall as far as I'm aware, being used on regular services is there an issue in finding drivers who a type trained for this vehicle?

I believe all 3 B7TL vehicles are the same to drive. WA already have plentiful of Geminis and ALX400 so a Plaxton shouldn't be too much of a stretch !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 19, 2015, 09:48:27 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on September 19, 2015, 09:35:51 PM
I believe all 3 B7TL vehicles are the same to drive. WA already have plentiful of Geminis and ALX400 so a Plaxton shouldn't be too much of a stretch !

I had a nosey on 4105 at garage it's identical to the other b7s the controls!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: windy miller on September 19, 2015, 10:17:27 PM
 ...to my complete surprise a WA 'new' platinum (6721) turned up on the 77 service around lunchtime today (Saturday) presumably a 'one off'? ... :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on September 19, 2015, 10:25:50 PM
Differences between Plaxton and Gemini is the interior lighting is overhead on the Geminis, and on the actual dash for Plaxton. Master switch on Plaxton is a turn switch, like a key, but a button on Gemini. The door controls have a "open" and "close" and "open wing" button. Gem is one button to open and close. The heater buttons are different, and overall cab is smaller with a bigger steering wheel, and you can't stretch your left leg in a Plaxton, but can on Gemini. Also the Plaxtons don't have a foot pedal to open doors. Also the wing mirrors are mounted in a position that a lot of passengers bash there head on them on the way out.

That's the main stuff.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 19, 2015, 10:36:05 PM
Quote from: windy miller on September 19, 2015, 10:17:27 PM
...to my complete surprise a WA 'new' platinum (6721) turned up on the 77 service around lunchtime today (Saturday) presumably a 'one off'? ... :-\ :-\

Nope not a one off, there were two on there on Tuesday (6751/55)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 20, 2015, 08:11:26 AM
Is it still mainly Volvo b7s on 311/313?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on September 20, 2015, 08:47:34 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 20, 2015, 08:11:26 AM
Is it still mainly Volvo b7s on 311/313?

Few more OmniStinks appearing recently as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 20, 2015, 08:53:52 AM
Does this mean the double deckers on the Dudley were just a rumour?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on September 20, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 20, 2015, 08:53:52 AM
Does this mean the double deckers on the Dudley were just a rumour?

I think so, i know i have said this before, and routes to & from depot are now printed on running boards, but all you need is a driver running late and not thinking and he decides to take a quick route back to garage (as has happened before) and WA have a new single decker bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: LiamthebusGuy on September 21, 2015, 09:25:28 PM
@Trident4538


Further to your post in 'Noteworthy Workings - September 2015', what is the red box at
Walsall bus station?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on September 21, 2015, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: Liam on September 21, 2015, 09:25:28 PM
@Trident4538


Further to your post in 'Noteworthy Workings - September 2015', what is the red box at
Walsall bus station?

Just to let you know it's 4583, also I believe it is the the red box at the entrance of the Walsall BS coming off Hatherton Road where some buses use to park up if there stand if busy.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 22, 2015, 05:16:09 AM
The gemini demonstrator was at walsall yesterdat with nx logos
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on September 22, 2015, 07:33:49 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 22, 2015, 05:16:09 AM
The gemini demonstrator was at walsall yesterdat with nx logos
Is it still at WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on September 22, 2015, 08:26:34 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 22, 2015, 05:16:09 AM
The gemini demonstrator was at walsall yesterdat with nx logos

Does anyone have a photo of this !!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on September 22, 2015, 08:29:39 PM
That's what I was wondering too @GeminiFan1991 !!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 23, 2015, 07:09:57 AM
Have been told the 2nd Cannock X51 has broken down at Bloxwich.

Me & my sister had to rush round to the Bloxwich Road route.

Sister saw a friend on there & her friend told her this.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 23, 2015, 07:25:41 AM
Yes it has I was on it. It was a bit annoying cos the driver was on the phone for nearly ten mins and two buses past usbefore he said eeveryone off. There was a woman on who missed her connecting train at Walsall she went a bit ape. Lol. I was just about ok got 301 & now on the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 23, 2015, 12:57:22 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 23, 2015, 07:25:41 AM
Yes it has I was on it. It was a bit annoying cos the driver was on the phone for nearly ten mins and two buses past usbefore he said eeveryone off. There was a woman on who missed her connecting train at Walsall she went a bit ape. Lol. I was just about ok got 301 & now on the 4

Wonder if u were on the same Bloxwich Road bus as me & my sister?

I was wearing a brown coat & had a bright green rucksack.

Sister had a scowl as she was moaning about the Nx app not saying it had broken down!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 24, 2015, 06:27:07 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 24, 2015, 03:52:32 PM
WA 4736 is on WA 77.
Not unusual now they are no longer needed for the Walsall to Birmingham services and 936 @Michael Bevan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 24, 2015, 06:29:39 PM
4776 is out on the X51's, 18:25 ex brum, feels weird to be on it I have to say
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 24, 2015, 06:41:20 PM
I am a bit confused with the X51's via destination point... "X51 Walsall/Birmingham via Great Barr". It doesn't go to Great Barr... It should display "X51 Walsall/Birmingham via Scott Arms" instead. Who did the destination points? ::)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 24, 2015, 06:45:26 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 24, 2015, 06:41:20 PM
I am a bit confused with the X51's via destination point... "X51 Walsall/Birmingham via Great Barr". It doesn't go to Great Barr... It should display "X51 Walsall/Birmingham via Scott Arms" instead. Who did the destination points? ::)
The X51 dose go to Great Barr @P419 EJW  Scott Arms is the name of the area were the shops are.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 24, 2015, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 24, 2015, 06:41:20 PM
I am a bit confused with the X51's via destination point... "X51 Walsall/Birmingham via Great Barr". It doesn't go to Great Barr... It should display "X51 Walsall/Birmingham via Scott Arms" instead. Who did the destination points? ::)

The Scott Arms is only the name of a pub, which has also been adopted by the shopping centre. It is in Great Barr
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 24, 2015, 07:00:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 24, 2015, 06:46:36 PM
The Scott Arms is only the name of a pub, which has also been adopted by the shopping centre. It is in Great Barr

Aha, thanks for the clarification, @Tony and @2206. I didn't know about that fact; I just assumed Scott Arms was actually a place. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 24, 2015, 07:56:33 PM
Didnt the 51 show 'Via Scott Arms' years ago?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on September 24, 2015, 08:27:14 PM
I was very surprised by 51-branded 4864 heading up Boldmere Road shortly before 7.30pm last night!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 24, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on September 24, 2015, 08:27:14 PM
I was very surprised by 51-branded 4864 heading up Boldmere Road shortly before 7.30pm last night!
Possibly on the A52? @The Real 4778
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on September 24, 2015, 09:16:19 PM
The A52? Ashbourne Road?

Joking apart I have no idea what the A52 is!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 24, 2015, 09:18:50 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on September 24, 2015, 09:16:19 PM
The A52? Ashbourne Road?

Joking apart I have no idea what the A52 is!
A52 route from Amazon Ruegley to Erdington
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/getting-to-amazon-fulfilment-centre-rugeley-/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on September 25, 2015, 07:41:21 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on September 24, 2015, 09:16:19 PM
The A52? Ashbourne Road?

Joking apart I have no idea what the A52 is!

A few A52 journeys have used 51 branded Enviro 400s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on September 25, 2015, 10:18:41 AM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on September 25, 2015, 07:41:21 AM
A few A52 journeys have used 51 branded Enviro 400s

Aha!  Cheers for the clarification!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 25, 2015, 10:25:14 AM
4105 on the 40/41 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 25, 2015, 12:14:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 25, 2015, 10:25:14 AM
4105 on the 40/41 today

4105 just departed Walsall on the 41 at 12:10.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Old Wyrley Boy on September 25, 2015, 02:54:00 PM
859 and 4131 on the 301.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 25, 2015, 05:37:08 PM
@Alex, 4295 on 335 comes from the 336 daytime. That board either has an E200 or a double decker, it does the school service 858 in the morning. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 27, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
Has there been much call for the special £5 daysaver for the Birmingham weekend?

Me & my brother had to help the 301 driver out with the ticket issuing, as she wasnt aware!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on September 27, 2015, 10:40:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 27, 2015, 09:39:15 PM
Has there been much call for the special £5 daysaver for the Birmingham weekend?

Me & my brother had to help the 301 driver out with the ticket issuing, as she wasnt aware!

The guy that was driving the x96 towards merry hill, gave a £5 ticket to couple with two kids. He knew about it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on September 27, 2015, 10:57:47 PM
I only found out about it after seeing it on the Daysaver screen. Sold around 3 of them on Saturday, a few happy passengers saving 3 quid lol.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 28, 2015, 03:59:35 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 24, 2015, 07:56:33 PM
Didnt the 51 show 'Via Scott Arms' years ago?

the x51 branding on the platinums also says scott arms
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 28, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 28, 2015, 03:59:35 PM
the x51 branding on the platinums also says scott arms

To be honest, I should have said the old roller blinds!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on September 29, 2015, 02:04:00 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 28, 2015, 11:00:13 PM
To be honest, I should have said the old roller blinds!

The original 51 service (BCT and later WMPTE) terminated at the Birmingham City boundary and the blinds showed the name Scott Arms. To be honest the junction has always been known as the Scott Arms as long as I can remember - the original pub on the corner was demolished to make way for the dualling of the two routes and was replaced by the one as part of the shopping centre.

The Walsall CT (later WMPTE) and Midland Red joint service from Walsall to Birmingham (118) was re numbered 51 in the mid 70s and IIRC the via blind said via Scott Arms (pretty sure it did in WMPTE days).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident4583 on September 29, 2015, 07:58:55 AM
Is 6747 an all day on the 77 please
thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 29, 2015, 12:27:44 PM
4105 on 6, 11.00 from Walsall, about 10 minutes late.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on September 29, 2015, 02:12:11 PM
Quote from: Trident4583 on September 29, 2015, 07:58:55 AM
Is 6747 an all day on the 77 please
thanks

The 77 does fit well with the platinum routes serving Serving Streetly with 935/997 and
Walsall-Barr Beacon corridor with 934/935
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 30, 2015, 07:13:37 AM
Got 1760 on the 4 this morning so much more comfortable than an omnilink.  The legroom on them is on a par with a b6!  So a volvo was a nice treat
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 30, 2015, 07:18:28 AM
Some b#####d has smashed up the bus shelter in Carmer to pieces, got police tape around it and it's bent to the point  of almost caving in. Talk about scum
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 30, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
Quote from: Bob on September 30, 2015, 07:18:28 AM
Some b#####d has smashed up the bus shelter in Carmer to pieces, got police tape around it and it's bent to the point  of almost caving in. Talk about scum

Scum? Did it not cross your mind that a there may have been an accident & a vehicle has crashed in to it? Highly doubt the police would tape it off for a vandal attack!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 30, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
President out on 77
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 30, 2015, 12:34:48 PM
436 on 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 30, 2015, 01:00:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 30, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
Scum? Did it not cross your mind that a there may have been an accident & a vehicle has crashed in to it? Highly doubt the police would tape it off for a vandal attack!

By the way its spelt Caldmore.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 30, 2015, 01:03:54 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 30, 2015, 09:55:08 AM
President out on 77

4105? Or 4029/32 do you know? (Have these two been out in service yet?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on September 30, 2015, 01:04:43 PM
@Other Walsall Tony 436?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 30, 2015, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: John on September 30, 2015, 01:03:54 PM
4105? Or 4029/32 do you know? (Have these two been out in service yet?)

@John It's 4105. :) Departed Walsall at 12:10.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 30, 2015, 04:17:04 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 30, 2015, 09:09:43 AM
Scum? Did it not cross your mind that a there may have been an accident & a vehicle has crashed in to it? Highly doubt the police would tape it off for a vandal attack!

Possibility, never thought of that. Regardless though, anyone who vandalises anything is a scumbag tho right
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on September 30, 2015, 04:37:21 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 30, 2015, 01:04:43 PM
@Other Walsall Tony 436?

1436, of course!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Justin Tyme on September 30, 2015, 05:43:38 PM
Quote from: don on September 29, 2015, 02:04:00 AM
The original 51 service (BCT and later WMPTE) terminated at the Birmingham City boundary and the blinds showed the name Scott Arms. To be honest the junction has always been known as the Scott Arms as long as I can remember - the original pub on the corner was demolished to make way for the dualling of the two routes and was replaced by the one as part of the shopping centre.

The Walsall CT (later WMPTE) and Midland Red joint service from Walsall to Birmingham (118) was re numbered 51 in the mid 70s and IIRC the via blind said via Scott Arms (pretty sure it did in WMPTE days).

I think the 51 in BCT days showed "Great Barr" rather than Scott Arms - although Scott Arms would have been a better choice, especially as the 28 to Dyas Road at Old Oscott also showed Great Barr!  When WMPTE standard Fleetlines arrived their upper blinds showed "Great Barr Scott Arms" in two lines.

It would probably be fairer to say that the 51 and 118 were merged as 51 in 1975 (the new 51 route in Birmingham city centre was different to both the old 51 and the 118), but I agree that via blinds from both Miller Street and Walsall garages showed "via Scott Arms".

West Bromwich Corporation also referred to Scott Arms, and I think Scott Arms also appeared on Walsall Corporation blinds.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 01, 2015, 07:20:12 AM
@Westy I know how it's spelt lol but NO BODY says Caldmore unless they're posh. Even the next stop announcement say "the next stop is...Carmer Green'. I'm from  Cannock and even my mum and dad have always said Carmer, usually with bloody hole in the same sentence lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 01, 2015, 07:58:07 AM
Quote from: Bob on October 01, 2015, 07:20:12 AM
@Westy I know how it's spelt lol but NO BODY says Caldmore unless they're posh. Even the next stop announcement say "the next stop is...Carmer Green'. I'm from  Cannock and even my mum and dad have always said Carmer, usually with bloody hole in the same sentence lol

@Bob - Point taken!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 01, 2015, 03:18:59 PM
1762 seen on the 4M earlier!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 01, 2015, 11:29:35 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 20, 2015, 12:59:58 PM
I think so, i know i have said this before, and routes to & from depot are now printed on running boards, but all you need is a driver running late and not thinking and he decides to take a quick route back to garage (as has happened before) and WA have a new single decker bus.

There was an E400 driving down Bloxwich Road (North of the depot in Leamore btw), displaying 313 Dudley around 230 / 300pm today.

Can I assume whoever was driving was playing with the display & not testing the route ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 02, 2015, 08:53:33 PM
Quick question, whats faster to Walsall from Merry Hill, 4M direct or X96 to Dudley then 311/313 to Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on October 02, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Quote from: Chris on October 02, 2015, 08:53:33 PM
Quick question, whats faster to Walsall from Merry Hill, 4M direct or X96 to Dudley then 311/313 to Walsall?

Probably about the same time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 02, 2015, 09:13:01 PM
Quote from: Dom on October 02, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Probably about the same time

Cheers @Dom, @2206 pm me with the same answer. I finish work at 11am then dart to walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 02, 2015, 09:14:25 PM
I catching 4h either nx or diamond depending on vehicle
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 03, 2015, 06:05:45 PM
@Dylanbusboy45

Deckers are on the 301/2 quite a bit on Saturdays. I'm sure there was another one as well as 4264
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 03, 2015, 06:09:59 PM
There were 2 b7rles on the 4M/4H/4 circuit
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2015, 06:10:48 PM
Quote from: Chris on October 03, 2015, 06:09:59 PM
There were 2 b7rles on the 4M/4H/4 circuit

Yes could have got 1 but 30822 is such a beast!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 03, 2015, 06:12:40 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2015, 06:10:07 PM
4254

Perry Barr bus that is. I did see it out on one of our routes today too. 4295 rings a bell
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 03, 2015, 06:13:07 PM
What amazes me about the 4 is that, considering how many buses operate on it, every bus seems really busy!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on October 03, 2015, 06:13:20 PM
Ok thanks for the information @John
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 03, 2015, 06:14:00 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2015, 06:10:48 PM
Yes could have got 1 but 30822 is such a beast!

Only got regional pass :) so nx will do. Tho a wright cadet did give a little race on the main road leading to walsalls ringway
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2015, 06:14:41 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 03, 2015, 06:13:07 PM
What amazes me about the 4 is that, considering how many buses operate on it, every bus seems really busy!!

I know, the normal diamond 4 seems to just get cadets
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2015, 06:25:23 PM
Nx drivers on 301 were not happy saying they should have done it on a Sunday due to late workings, and passengers also didn't like all the spotters it seems
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 03, 2015, 07:06:34 PM
1447 is on 301 until midnight.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 03, 2015, 07:10:31 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2015, 06:25:23 PM
Nx drivers on 301 were not happy saying they should have done it on a Sunday due to late workings, and passengers also didn't like all the spotters it seems

Its not as though it happens every week, so the locals have nothing to worry about and I also spoke to a driver who wasn't very happy, but that was because some people who were photographing at Walsall bus station were standing in dangerous areas.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 03, 2015, 08:09:23 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 03, 2015, 07:10:31 PM
Its not as though it happens every week, so the locals have nothing to worry about and I also spoke to a driver who wasn't very happy, but that was because some people who were photographing at Walsall bus station were standing in dangerous areas.

Must admit I tried to find a safe place where possible in Walsall, as this is the first time I've done 'on street spotting', the other occasions being being at the open days.

By the post office back doors, where 4001 was parked, seemed to be a popular place initially.

Other people were standing on the traffic island, within the barriers, which gave you buses in 2 directions, coming into Walsall & coming out of the bus station.

I stood by the row of shops as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 04, 2015, 06:05:09 PM
4125 on the 6/10 today. Its not often WA Tridents are used on Sunday's. Since these two routes appeared to convert to double deck operation on Sunday's, it has appeared to be either an E400 or a Gemini.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 08:05:38 PM
What are the bus numbers for the WA29? WA29-01 02 03 04 05?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 08:12:06 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 08:05:38 PM
What are the bus numbers for the WA29? WA29-01 02 03 04 05?

Like on the driver's duty cards it has a large font in bold on top right hand corner e.g WA29/01 so WA is Walsall Garage code and 29 for route 29 and whats the numbers stand for like 01 02 03 04 05 etc?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 08:12:06 PM
Like on the driver's duty cards it has a large font in bold on top right hand corner e.g WA29/01 so WA is Walsall Garage code and 29 for route 29 and whats the numbers stand for like 01 02 03 04 05 etc?

That is the running card number, for example 29/03 is the third bus on the 29.

Even the specials on the 301 yesterday, they had running cards, i think? the one i saw was 301/93.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
Cheers Stuart, I thought it was mate, was not sure if it was the bus running number or the driver duty number, glad I know now, been trying to find out for a while so I can start putting the bus running numbers, down on the timetables I have.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 08:26:10 PM
That means the weekday 1805 Walsall to Bloxwich is running number 05 from what ive seen. I assume this will then do the 1835 back to Walsall unless they go onto a different route after the trip? Its hard to work out each trips, as some times a bus may have loads stand time or straight in and out with little stand time, to work out the exact TT you would need to watch the service start to finish. do any 29s return the garage during the day/night as layover buses or just for driver change overs/breaks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 04, 2015, 08:27:48 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
That is the running card number, for example 29/03 is the third bus on the 29.

Even the specials on the 301 specials yesterday, they had running cards although i think? the one i saw was 301/93.

This has reminded me, the weekend running boards have changed at several garages (except Walsall and PB it seems). Saturdays are now start from **/41 and Sundays now start from **/71.

For example at WN, the first bus out of garage on a Saturday would be 79/41. On Sundays for example, the first 59 would be 59/71.


Also, another addition to the running boards is the vehicle type printed so at WN, a Trident allocated route has 'Trid' on the board. The 904 i had today mentioned 'Sutton Branded E400' on the board.
I did think it was just WN but i caught 49/43 and 9/41 last Saturday so both PN and WB have changed their boards too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on October 04, 2015, 08:29:39 PM
Yeah pensnett are running on new boards as I've seen a Saturday 246/45 board with allocated types of vehicles noted on the boards too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 08:30:33 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 08:26:10 PM
That means the weekday 1805 Walsall to Bloxwich is running number 05 from what ive seen. I assume this will then do the 1835 back to Walsall unless they go onto a different route after the trip? Its hard to work out each trips, as some times a bus may have loads stand time or straight in and out with little stand time, to work out the exact TT you would need to watch the service start to finish. do any 29s return the garage during the day/night as layover buses or just for driver change overs/breaks?

Sadly you just have to watch the service and see what happens.

Certainly in my area, come early evening, buses start swapping routes!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 08:33:03 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on October 04, 2015, 08:29:39 PM
Yeah pensnett are running on new boards as I've seen a Saturday 246/45 board with allocated types of vehicles noted on the boards too

That probably makes sense when running numbers are different on Saturdays and Sundays to weekdays.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 08:41:45 PM
Oh and if anybody from WA garage reads this, can you put some ink into 1859s ticket machine, the NBus ticket i purchased yesterday was barely readable!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on October 04, 2015, 08:42:25 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 08:15:09 PM

Even the specials on the 301 yesterday, they had running cards, i think? the one i saw was 301/93.

Yes, I got a picture of one from 1613, was 301/93.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:23:51 PM
thanks mate  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:26:28 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 04, 2015, 08:27:48 PM
This has reminded me, the weekend running boards have changed at several garages (except Walsall and PB it seems). Saturdays are now start from **/41 and Sundays now start from **/71.

For example at WN, the first bus out of garage on a Saturday would be 79/41. On Sundays for example, the first 59 would be 59/71.


Also, another addition to the running boards is the vehicle type printed so at WN, a Trident allocated route has 'Trid' on the board. The 904 i had today mentioned 'Sutton Branded E400' on the board.
I did think it was just WN but i caught 49/43 and 9/41 last Saturday so both PN and WB have changed their boards too.


Would be nice if some one from WA would email me all the WA boards as a one off goodwill gesture so I can work it all out easily  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:30:08 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 04, 2015, 08:27:48 PM
This has reminded me, the weekend running boards have changed at several garages (except Walsall and PB it seems). Saturdays are now start from **/41 and Sundays now start from **/71.

For example at WN, the first bus out of garage on a Saturday would be 79/41. On Sundays for example, the first 59 would be 59/71.


Also, another addition to the running boards is the vehicle type printed so at WN, a Trident allocated route has 'Trid' on the board. The 904 i had today mentioned 'Sutton Branded E400' on the board.
I did think it was just WN but i caught 49/43 and 9/41 last Saturday so both PN and WB have changed their boards too.


So do the running boards stay with the bus all day? start till finish and only way drivers know when to come off is when his trip has a circle on it? or do the drivers also have a running board aswell which has a selection of each trips they must do? so for example a running board for WA29/01 starts at 05 am end at say 7pm and the trips will be split between say 3 or 4 drivers?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 09:31:37 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:26:28 PM

Would be nice if some one from WA would email me all the WA boards as a one off goodwill gesture so I can work it all out easily  :D

Sorry @Tomf1993 but you don't stand a chance there!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 09:34:48 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:30:08 PM

So do the running boards stay with the bus all day? start till finish and only way drivers know when to come off is when his trip has a circle on it? or do the drivers also have a running board aswell which has a selection of each trips they must do? so for example a running board for WA29/01 starts at 05 am end at say 7pm and the trips will be split between say 3 or 4 drivers?

The running board stays with the bus all day, except if the bus breaks down and needs to be swapped.

The circles you see on the running board are probably done by drivers so its easier to remember when they are due for relief!

The drivers are told what running board they are covering and from what time!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:37:40 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 09:31:37 PM
Sorry @Tomf1993 but you don't stand a chance there!

I know so I have been told, you never know though, some nice people out their might send me something, who knows..  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on October 04, 2015, 09:38:19 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:30:08 PM

So do the running boards stay with the bus all day? start till finish and only way drivers know when to come off is when his trip has a circle on it? or do the drivers also have a running board aswell which has a selection of each trips they must do? so for example a running board for WA29/01 starts at 05 am end at say 7pm and the trips will be split between say 3 or 4 drivers?

Running boards stay on bus, they do not change with drivers, the drivers have specific duties that require them to be on several different buses, hence the circle or line marking the end of a duty part.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:40:16 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2015, 09:34:48 PM
The running board stays with the bus all day, except if the bus breaks down and needs to be swapped.

The circles you see on the running board are probably done by drivers so its easier to remember when they are due for relief!

The drivers are told what running board they are covering and from what time!

Blimey, so drivers dont have individual duty cards to refer to like in London? each driver has their duty which tells them their bus run nos, the trips they cover, the times they due off for break etc ? (//)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 09:42:23 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 09:30:08 PM

So do the running boards stay with the bus all day? start till finish and only way drivers know when to come off is when his trip has a circle on it? or do the drivers also have a running board aswell which has a selection of each trips they must do? so for example a running board for WA29/01 starts at 05 am end at say 7pm and the trips will be split between say 3 or 4 drivers?

Running boards are usually giving out by the allocator based on how they are parked in the garage, it includes times such as leaving and returning to garage and and if the route interworks with another, what times they switch.

Only way you can get running board info is to get a good look when its with the driver ! I was lucky to get some good info from the driver trainer at WB who kindly showed me the 83/01 board. Gives you a good insight into bus logistics !

Drivers know which rota they're on and Im not fully sure on this so someone please correct me otherwise but drivers only perform 1 lap of a route before they get relieved ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on October 04, 2015, 09:46:59 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 09:42:23 PM
Drivers know which rota they're on and Im not fully sure on this so someone please correct me otherwise but drivers only perform 1 lap of a route before they get relieved ?

That depends on the route! On certain long journeys (such as the full 126 in the daytime) that will be the case, but on something like the 29 at Walsall it can be many more. Drivers can be driving for up to 5h30mins before requiring a break - with built in breaks the driver can be on the same bus for 8h30mins!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 04, 2015, 09:48:23 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 09:42:23 PM
Running boards are usually giving out by the allocator based on how they are parked in the garage, it includes times such as leaving and returning to garage and and if the route interworks with another, what times they switch.

Only way you can get running board info is to get a good look when its with the driver ! I was lucky to get some good info from the driver trainer at WB who kindly showed me the 83/01 board. Gives you a good insight into bus logistics !

Drivers know which rota they're on and Im not fully sure on this so someone please correct me otherwise but drivers only perform 1 lap of a route before they get relieved ?

London buses have running numbers as well, some companies still use the plates on the side, Abellio use A4 in the windscreen, see http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/9554.html

If drivers only did one circuit, the 335 would need a lot of drivers!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 09:56:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2015, 09:48:23 PM
London buses have running numbers as well, some companies still use the plates on the side, Abellio use A4 in the windscreen, see http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/9554.html

If drivers only did one circuit, the 335 would need a lot of drivers!

I was chatting to a driver outside AG who was awaiting his 11A duty so I illogically made a generic assumption !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 10:00:59 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2015, 09:48:23 PM
London buses have running numbers as well, some companies still use the plates on the side, Abellio use A4 in the windscreen, see http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/9554.html

If drivers only did one circuit, the 335 would need a lot of drivers!

yes Tony, Im from London and have vast amounts of info form London United in partular, driver duty cards, WTT schedule with all trips on duty etc etc, but moved to Walsall last month so just getting to grips with buses around here and how they operate mate.  thanks for every one who has posted the last few posts about this, big help. im starting to understand how it works here now with TWM.

Although the running boards that stay with the buses all day and drivers not having one is a bit odd to me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 10:04:51 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 10:00:59 PM
yes Tony, Im from London and have vast amounts of info form London United in partular, driver duty cards, WTT schedule with all trips on duty etc etc, but moved to Walsall last month so just getting to grips with buses around here and how they operate mate.  thanks for every one who has posted the last few posts about this, big help. im starting to understand how it works here now with TWM.

Although the running boards that stay with the buses all day and drivers not having one is a bit odd to me.

Its NXWM now !

drivers are aware of what time they start duty and where, from what I understand drivers have varied duties, i.e if you catch the same bus at the same time every day, the driver necessarily won't be same, 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on October 04, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 10:04:51 PM
Its NXWM now !

drivers are aware of what time they start duty and where, from what I understand drivers have varied duties, i.e if you catch the same bus at the same time every day, the driver necessarily won't be same,

Correct bar few there are a few drivers who have the same duty due to personal reasons or whatever. For example there is a WN driver on Bilston rota who has the same duty everyday, including the 1500 82 ex Dudley
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 10:14:11 PM
Quote from: Dom on October 04, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
Correct bar few there are a few drivers who have the same duty due to personal reasons or whatever. For example there is a WN driver on Bilston rota who has the same duty everyday, including the 1500 82 ex Dudley

You have a point, I've noted my early morning 6.00 11A journey has the same face behind the wheel !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 10:29:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2015, 09:48:23 PM
London buses have running numbers as well, some companies still use the plates on the side, Abellio use A4 in the windscreen, see http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/9554.html

If drivers only did one circuit, the 335 would need a lot of drivers!

Tony how many running boards are on the WA29? MF SAT SUN
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 11:17:45 PM
Quote from: Dom on October 04, 2015, 09:38:19 PM
Running boards stay on bus, they do not change with drivers, the drivers have specific duties that require them to be on several different buses, hence the circle or line marking the end of a duty part.


Do the running boards go out in numerical order, so for each route like 29 , they would go out in this order WA29/01 02 03 04 05 etc ? so for example WA29/01 @ 05AM WA29/02 0515 etc or wil it be WA29/01 then WA29/05?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 11:21:59 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 04, 2015, 11:17:45 PM

Do the running boards go out in numerical order, so for each route like 29 , they would go out in this order WA29/01 02 03 04 05 etc ? so for example WA29/01 @ 05AM WA29/02 0515 etc or wil it be WA29/01 then WA29/05?

From my knowledge its in numerical order i.e (For the Outer Circle 11A/C) The 11A/01 would leave first then 11A/02 then so on, only peak boards come back after.... peak time ! I could fantastically wrong however, a more experienced member of the forum could shed better light although thats my understanding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 04, 2015, 11:30:13 PM
Quote from: Dom on October 04, 2015, 10:08:38 PM
Correct bar few there are a few drivers who have the same duty due to personal reasons or whatever. For example there is a WN driver on Bilston rota who has the same duty everyday, including the 1500 82 ex Dudley

Same in Walsall. Not sure if he is still working now but in the past I used to see the same driver every morning on 335, same duty on the specific B6s. He was a tall guy so he used to drive 648 and 650 regularly. The passengers seemed to know him well and he used to wave or beep the horn every time he saw someone he knew. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on October 05, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 09:56:32 PM
I was chatting to a driver outside AG who was awaiting his 11A duty so I illogically made a generic assumption !

You don't always have one lap on the 11 and then a break. On average, you do 3 trips on the 11 each duty. Actually it's more common 2 and a half.

This is duty 2227 at AG. It compromises of two portions, I.e a split shift. Just to give you a better understanding.

11A/71 WES1122-1401WES
11A/57 WES1536-1956DEPOT
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on October 05, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on October 04, 2015, 11:21:59 PM
From my knowledge its in numerical order i.e (For the Outer Circle 11A/C) The 11A/01 would leave first then 11A/02 then so on, only peak boards come back after.... peak time ! I could fantastically wrong however, a more experienced member of the forum could shed better light although thats my understanding

Not all routes' running boards leave garage in numeric order.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 05, 2015, 01:10:04 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 05, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
Not all routes' running boards leave garage in numeric order.

For example at WN, first 2 out of garage is 2/04.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 05, 2015, 01:26:04 PM
Quote from: MW on October 05, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
You don't always have one lap on the 11 and then a break. On average, you do 3 trips on the 11 each duty. Actually it's more common 2 and a half.

This is duty 2227 at AG. It compromises of two portions, I.e a split shift. Just to give you a better understanding.

11A/71 WES1122-1401WES
11A/57 WES1536-1956DEPOT

You call that a split shift!? Today I'm on 0850-1137 then back on at 1450-1957
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on October 05, 2015, 03:41:05 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 05, 2015, 01:26:04 PM
You call that a split shift!? Today I'm on 0850-1137 then back on at 1450-1957

So an 11 hour day but you only get paid for 8? Don't envy you that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 05, 2015, 08:40:05 AM
Not all routes' running boards leave garage in numeric order.

Do they run in order thought during the day like WA29/01/02/03/04/05/06/07 etc all in order?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 06:52:23 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 06:48:10 PM
Do they run in order thought during the day like WA29/01/02/03/04/05/06/07 etc all in order?

That depends on the route, although you may find that one bus will go to start service at Walsall and the next one will take up service at Blakenhall & Bloxwich. So the Boards get mixed up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 06:52:23 PM
That depends on the route, although you may find that one bus will go to start service at Walsall and the next one will take up service at Blakenhall & Bloxwich. So the Boards get mixed up.

Cheers Stu, I thought about it, but even in London most the run nos slot in to order say 1-20 and e.g 19/20 being lay over buses, would slot in any where.

Hope Tony our WA guy can shed more light
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 07:47:11 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
Cheers Stu, I thought about it, but even in London most the run nos slot in to order say 1-20 and e.g 19/20 being lay over buses, would slot in any where.

Hope Tony our WA guy can shed more light

I've never seen London buses in order, it's impossible on a lot of London routes because of the short workings on many, even if they started off in order as soon as one did a short it would be out of order
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 07:48:17 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 07:37:25 PM
Cheers Stu, I thought about it, but even in London most the run nos slot in to order say 1-20 and e.g 19/20 being lay over buses, would slot in any where.

Hope Tony our WA guy can shed more light

@Tomf1993 Yes, plus in London most buses run from one garage and start from one particular point.

eg: 13 operates from London Sovereigns Edgware garage and all start service at Golders Green, so the routes will follow in order. The night service journeys mean no services need to start from Aldwych. Also in London it is easier to find out information on services as only one operator operates each service, and TFL have in the past under Freedom Of Information act sent out full details of what all running cards are and what each bus does through the day. However even this is set to change because although operators are willing to show the full timetables for there services, they now want information about running numbers and duty numbers removed from these requests.

In the West Midlands, NE have competition on certain routes and are reluctant to reveal Running Card details as they are commercially sensitive.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 07:52:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 05, 2015, 07:47:11 PM
I've never seen London buses in order, it's impossible on a lot of London routes because of the short workings on many, even if they started off in order as soon as one did a short it would be out of order

Thinking about that @Tony, so many buses are used on some routes that bus 1 will leave and do a round trip, then will do it's next trip. However bus 2 will do the same , however before it does it next trip, bus 11 may come out and fit in between.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
Stuart

Having been in London for years upto last month, I know about FOI and that is not the case, TFL are still making the requests available they have stopped them because of duplicate requests and they intend to publish them online in due course, they are updating the CEASAR system for this to happen mate. Yes the 13 all buses start and end at Golders Green because of the garage is far away aswell the 82, all buses start and finish at North Finchley.

Here is a few pages of the route 281 schedule, see during the day all the run nos are in order bar lay overs.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 07:58:38 PM
Some pages of the route 281 current MF sch day schedule
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 08:12:23 PM
Judging by the copy of the 13 schedule that I have, they do run in bus order because the buses don't come out of garage in order.

In August 2013, first bus out was 4, followed by 7, 10 & 13, then during the rest of the rush hour buses fitted in so that all buses did indeed run in order!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 08:17:40 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 07:56:16 PM
Stuart

Having been in London for years upto last month, I know about FOI and that is not the case, TFL are still making the requests available they have stopped them because of duplicate requests and they intend to publish them online in due course, they are updating the CEASAR system for this to happen mate. Yes the 13 all buses start and end at Golders Green because of the garage is far away aswell the 82, all buses start and finish at North Finchley.

Here is a few pages of the route 281 schedule, see during the day all the run nos are in order bar lay overs.

So you said London are in order on your original post, yet the 281 you have just posted shows the first four journeys operated by buses 9, 381, 18, 21, 23
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:20:03 PM
Buses dont usually go out in run order as if they did that it's unlikely they run in order.

Right so I've shown you all 2 pages of a London United schedule , that's what controllers have in their ibus room and drivers have their duty cards , different companys use different schedules software so LU LS Arriva London Metroline Stagecoach London use an old LT formatt. Where as Abellio first GAL use different style ones

Regards
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:21:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 05, 2015, 08:17:40 PM
So you said London are in order on your original post, yet the 281 you have just posted shows the first four journeys operated by buses 9, 381, 18, 21, 23



Thats start of day Tony mate, early morning , and evenings won't be in order their will be gaps as the service winds down.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 08:25:48 PM
Thinking we are loosing this conversation, so lets bring it back to the West Midlands.

Here we have interworking, eg 140/1/241 and journeys can begin at any of numerous points like Dudley, Marry Hill, Halesowen, Bearwood, so the chance of these routes running in board order are very remote.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
Tried looking for 4105 today. Waited at wasall for ages, no show so went on 4534 on 7A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 08:33:45 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:31:17 PM
Tried looking for 4105 today. Waited at wasall for ages, no show so went on 4534 on 7A

If you would have put it on 'buses to find' I would have told you it was in garage, I had time to reply to any requests today (and did, but don't always, so don't complain if you do ask and don't get a reply)

Incidently 4027 is now at BC receiving attention to put it back into use at WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 05, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 05, 2015, 08:33:45 PM
If you would have put it on 'buses to find' I would have told you it was in garage, I had time to reply to any requests today (and did, but don't always, so don't complain if you do ask and don't get a reply)

Incidently 4027 is now at BC receiving attention to put it back into use at WA

@Tony, he did post in Buses to Find thread at 11:20. See below for his quote. :)

Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 11:20:21 AM
4105 please guys and any idea what time it's out till?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:36:17 PM
cheers Tony, I went on X51 other week, so the yard a Miller Street loads presidents in their, which ones are these and are they withdawn? is their a list of what is their?

Sorry to throw the thread off towards London, Just very interested about TWM running boards and how they stay with the bus rather then the drivers have their own individual ones.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 08:42:48 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:36:17 PM
cheers Tony, I went on X51 other week, so the yard a Miller Street loads presidents in their, which ones are these and are they withdawn? is their a list of what is their?

Sorry to throw the thread off towards London, Just very interested about TWM running boards and how they stay with the bus rather then the drivers have their own individual ones.

It is no different to London. In London the buses have runnings, these are shown as the bus number in those lists you have posted exactly the same as NX running boards and the drivers have duty cards exactly the same.

The only difference is the exact content of what the drivers does is printed on a different bit of paper
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:44:31 PM
cheers Tony,

How comes most operators out side London do not show the running numbers, either in front window like Abellio London/Stagecoach or by running plates on the sides?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:44:31 PM
cheers Tony,

How comes most operators out side London do not show the running numbers, either in front window like Abellio London/Stagecoach or by running plates on the sides?

NX don't need to, It is to aid bus identification by on street supervisory staff. NX Inspector have Ipads which they can check the running numbers of buses on. If you have a look at photos of West Midlands Buses around 25 years ago the running board was put against the windscreen with the number in white numbers on the back.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:52:30 PM
How comes the running boards have all the trips the bus does, but dont show when the drivers change overs or anything? just some circle which is circled on the cards, looks a bit messy that way
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 08:55:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 05, 2015, 08:49:20 PM
NX don't need to, It is to aid bus identification by on street supervisory staff. NX Inspector have Ipads which they can check the running numbers of buses on. If you have a look at photos of West Midlands Buses around 25 years ago the running board was put against the windscreen with the number in white numbers on the back.

Plus in London, Centrecomm tend to use CCTV heavily, so its easy to focus in on the running number of a bus if they need to!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:57:29 PM
London has brilliant IBUS, contollers know exactly where each bus etc, run no, duty no fleet no, speed its doing etc, and IBUS passengers have next bus stop info, Ive only seen this on TWM route 4 which the system anit that good on
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
Next stop info also available on

Wolverhampton 1
Birmingham 22/23
Dudley 222
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on October 05, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
Next stop info also available on

Wolverhampton 1
Birmingham 22/23
Dudley 222

Don't forget the Platinum routes!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 05, 2015, 09:01:37 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 05, 2015, 09:00:12 PM
Next stop info also available on

Wolverhampton 1
Birmingham 22/23
Dudley 222
The 900 and 957 also have the next stop announcements @Stuharris 6360 
The X51, 997, 934, 935, 936 and 997 also have it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 09:02:19 PM
Oh their was something I wanted to ask about the Scania on the 4s, are they programmed for all next stop info route like the 29/301 as these buses run on those routes but the system never works on the routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 09:02:39 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 05, 2015, 08:57:29 PM
London has brilliant IBUS, contollers know exactly where each bus etc, run no, duty no fleet no, speed its doing etc, and IBUS passengers have next bus stop info, Ive only seen this on TWM route 4 which the system anit that good on

And NXWM has Vix Horizons which is just as good for control purposes, not sure what you are getting at with all these comparisons but I think you will find NX is just as, if not more advanced than London in most respects. I won't answer a lot of your questions because you keep asking the same questions, that I have replied are commercially sensitive information and it is getting a bit monotonous. Because of the way London buses are run, not on a commercial basis, this doesn't apply down there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 09:04:58 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 05, 2015, 08:35:37 PM
@Tony, he did post in Buses to Find thread at 11:20. See below for his quote. :)

ah sorry, that was after I had last checked it and answered everyone elses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 05, 2015, 09:15:16 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 05, 2015, 03:41:05 PM
So an 11 hour day but you only get paid for 8? Don't envy you that.

paid for 7.5:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on October 05, 2015, 09:52:22 PM
Is there any chance of 4027/32 entering service at WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
Quote from: RS on October 05, 2015, 09:52:22 PM
Is there any chance of 4027/32 entering service at WA

They should do
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tara4352 on October 05, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 05, 2015, 09:53:15 PM
They should do
What would they be put on route wise do you think ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 05, 2015, 09:56:40 PM
Quote from: RS on October 05, 2015, 09:54:52 PM
What would they be put on route wise do you think ?

They will just be used the same as the B7/ALX400 and Tridents while they are there, remember they are only reserve fleet vehicles needed at Walsall, not full fleet memebers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on October 06, 2015, 12:10:13 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 05, 2015, 09:15:16 PM
paid for 7.5:(

Whenever I get these long duties, I give them back and get something else. Works about 90% of the time :D lol

Also don't do any stupidly early stuff. For me, that's anything before 8am.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 06, 2015, 06:10:17 AM
Quote from: MW on October 06, 2015, 12:10:13 AM
Whenever I get these long duties, I give them back and get something else. Works about 90% of the time :D lol

Also don't do any stupidly early stuff. For me, that's anything before 8am.

Wish I could do that haha, 90% of mine starts before 8!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on October 06, 2015, 07:02:07 AM
Quote from: MW on October 06, 2015, 12:10:13 AM
Whenever I get these long duties, I give them back and get something else. Works about 90% of the time :D lol

Also don't do any stupidly early stuff. For me, that's anything before 8am.

If it was me I'd take anything that's before 8am the sooner I start the sooner I finish (in most cases)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 06, 2015, 07:14:48 AM
Quote from: Dom on October 06, 2015, 07:02:07 AM
If it was me I'd take anything that's before 8am the sooner I start the sooner I finish (in most cases)

That's why I prefer the earlier duties. It's harder to get up for them, but at least you finish early enough in the day to at least do things in the afternoon. Unless you get collared for overtime!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 07, 2015, 03:39:05 PM
Had nice ride on route 29 today 4105, bus bit sluggish, but was quick driver running board WA29/04 any idea when its out till? what will its final trip be?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 07, 2015, 03:42:07 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 07, 2015, 03:39:05 PM
Had nice ride on route 29 today 4105, bus bit sluggish, but was quick driver running board WA29/04 any idea when its out till? what will its final trip be?

4105 on 10/10A now. Don't know how long it will be out for so don't ask me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 07, 2015, 03:47:44 PM
didnt know the 29/10/10A crosslinked buses?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 07, 2015, 03:56:48 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 07, 2015, 03:47:44 PM
didnt know the 29/10/10A crosslinked buses?

They don't. Must have been taken off the 29 and put onto the 10 for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 07, 2015, 06:53:00 PM
Ive been told that all the WA running boards use the same bus running nos, so WA29/01/02/03/04/05 etc the same will  be for the the 69 WA69/01/02/03/04/05 etc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 02:38:00 PM
How comes the 301 has different running boards on friday compared to Mon tue wed thur? same for 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 04:17:02 PM
WA fleet , yes I know the main site lists all the vehicles, but I just want to see , who lists depot lists instead of having to search the main list  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 08, 2015, 04:28:48 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 04:17:02 PM
WA fleet , yes I know the main site lists all the vehicles, but I just want to see , who lists depot lists instead of having to search the main list  :D
Have 4527/29/33 actually gone to AG yet?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
No idea, thats the point of my list, so I can correct it with every ones input mate  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 08, 2015, 04:55:28 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 04:30:47 PM
No idea, thats the point of my list, so I can correct it with every ones input mate  :)

The list doesn't need correcting
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 05:01:17 PM
Cheers Tony, so its correct bar 4027 away yeah?  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 08, 2015, 05:16:56 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 05:01:17 PM
Cheers Tony, so its correct bar 4027 away yeah?  :)

The list is correct including 4027 as at 1/8/15.

4027 is still allocated to Walsall and will need to be joined by some more Presidents soon as well due to increased requirements
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 08, 2015, 05:18:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 08, 2015, 05:16:56 PM
The list is correct including 4027 as at 1/8/15.

4027 is still allocated to Walsall and will need to be joined by some more Presidents soon as well due to increased requirements

Its a shame PE or WV don't have any B7's as they'd be a good dumping ground for presidents and WA could have their tridents :)

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 05:21:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 08, 2015, 05:16:56 PM
The list is correct including 4027 as at 1/8/15.

4027 is still allocated to Walsall and will need to be joined by some more Presidents soon as well due to increased requirements

Cheers Tony anything else off road like 4027 4032 and the 3 volvo you mentioned in the other thread?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 08, 2015, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 05:21:34 PM
Cheers Tony anything else off road like 4027 4032 and the 3 volvo you mentioned in the other thread?

4871 I believe has been out of action for weeks. Tony said its having engine work at cummins?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 08, 2015, 05:24:48 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 05:21:34 PM
Cheers Tony anything else off road like 4027 4032 and the 3 volvo you mentioned in the other thread?

There are lots of buses off the road at any time that is why companies own about 10% more buses than they need.

I am taking one away for warranty repairs on Saturday. Nice long drive for me and a few places to visit when on the train home
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 08, 2015, 05:26:40 PM
In London their is a site called LVF https://lvf.io/ you can search any route it will tell you all the buses on it, wish their was something for here  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mranon on October 08, 2015, 09:54:39 PM
what type tony?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on October 09, 2015, 12:00:06 AM
I looked around the garage (AG) today. Couldn't see any of the 4527-4534 lot (can't remember which 3 are to be/have transferred). Looked at the allocation sheet too, and the "map" of where everything is parked. Nothing.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 09, 2015, 08:23:34 AM
Quote from: MW on October 09, 2015, 12:00:06 AM
I looked around the garage (AG) today. Couldn't see any of the 4527-4534 lot (can't remember which 3 are to be/have transferred). Looked at the allocation sheet too, and the "map" of where everything is parked. Nothing.

Because Walsall have had them parked up for a month, which never does a bus any good, they need some work doing on them, the same as the only reserve fleet Presidents actually in use so far are the 3 that have kept their wheels rolling 4042/3 at Dundee and 4105 at Walsall.

At least one of the 3 Geminis has been at Trailways having some work done
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 09, 2015, 09:47:32 AM
Why Are WA getting rid of them?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 09, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 09, 2015, 08:23:34 AM
Because Walsall have had them parked up for a month, which never does a bus any good, they need some work doing on them, the same as the only reserve fleet Presidents actually in use so far are the 3 that have kept their wheels rolling 4042/3 at Dundee and 4105 at Walsall.

At least one of the 3 Geminis has been at Trailways having some work done

Tony , what other buses are parked up at WA currently? anything like Spectra, Merc, Librator's?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AV4248 on October 09, 2015, 10:59:23 AM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 09, 2015, 09:47:32 AM
Why Are WA getting rid of them?

Probably because they are not needed at WA, all the Platinum deliveries making them redundant I assume.

It would be nice of them to return to AG, back to their home garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 09, 2015, 10:59:41 AM
4533 is a nice Gemini, and 4534 the coolers are on constantly! Haven't drove any others except the Dundee ones
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 09, 2015, 11:57:21 AM
If they were not needed at WA, why are they getting VP4105/4027/4032 in and possibly more in? The MMC replaced some E400/Single Deck Volvo
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 09, 2015, 12:13:41 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 09, 2015, 11:57:21 AM
If they were not needed at WA, why are they getting VP4105/4027/4032 in and possibly more in? The MMC replaced some E400/Single Deck Volvo

Because the people who plan the fleet work on 1540 vehicles and 10 garages and the requirements of them all
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 09, 2015, 07:45:04 PM
What bus is usually allocated to that college bus WA do?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 09, 2015, 07:48:22 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 09, 2015, 07:45:04 PM
What bus is usually allocated to that college bus WA do?
4737/4776
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 10, 2015, 11:32:44 AM
For some reason the announcement on the Platinums mentions Booths Farm Road as a stop
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 10, 2015, 03:42:58 PM
4308 is on the 336. I know they use Tridents if there are no E200's spare, however Deckers rarely appear on Saturdays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 10, 2015, 05:44:23 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 10, 2015, 11:32:44 AM
For some reason the announcement on the Platinums mentions Booths Farm Road as a stop

I know and ablewell street in walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 10, 2015, 07:55:51 PM
Two more new Levantes at Walsall

93 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0116-0422/93.html
94 http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0116-0422/94.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 11, 2015, 09:57:05 AM
Caught 6751 this morning - my first completely non branded platinum - and I have to say it is a joy to have a window at the back, makes it feel so much brighter upstairs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on October 12, 2015, 07:59:47 AM
1842 is back on the road already! Just seen it on the 77.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 14, 2015, 03:10:47 PM
At least 2 non platinum buses out, currently on 4869 on the X51 and sure I had a 47xx bus this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 14, 2015, 03:11:58 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 14, 2015, 03:10:47 PM
At least 2 non platinum buses out, currently on 4869 on the X51 and sure I had a 47xx bus this morning

I'm sure I saw 4870 on the X51 too this afternoon too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on October 14, 2015, 04:46:10 PM
4105 on 40/41
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 14, 2015, 07:47:38 PM
yeah 4869 /70 out today and yesterday I had the joy of 4733 on the x51/997! Had a few comments from the oldies "don't they trust you with a new bus" haha
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on October 16, 2015, 07:39:34 AM
Destination board has been updated on the 936 to say "Brownhills West".
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 16, 2015, 05:10:13 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 14, 2015, 07:47:38 PM
yeah 4869 /70 out today and yesterday I had the joy of 4733 on the x51/997! Had a few comments from the oldies "don't they trust you with a new bus" haha

4870 is on the 997/X51 again this afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John Stait on October 16, 2015, 09:46:51 PM
4869 on 997 too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 16, 2015, 11:13:01 PM
Finally worked out the WA29 workings its 6 buses numbered WA29/01/02/03/04/05/06

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on October 16, 2015, 11:37:29 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 16, 2015, 11:13:01 PM
Finally worked out the WA29 workings its 6 buses numbered WA29/01/02/03/04/05/06

Well of course it's going to be 01/02/03 etc.  That's how all running boards are numbered on weekdays.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 16, 2015, 11:43:58 PM
Quote from: Dom on October 16, 2015, 11:37:29 PM
Well of course it's going to be 01/02/03 etc.  That's how all running boards are numbered on weekdays.

Weekends for WA are same, on friday though 301s are 51plus no idea why 301s are different on fridays to mon - thur.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 17, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 16, 2015, 11:43:58 PM
Weekends for WA are same, on friday though 301s are 51plus no idea why 301s are different on fridays to mon - thur.

Some 51 branded vehicles have been seen on the 301.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on October 17, 2015, 03:16:15 PM
6756, 6757 and 6720 all on the 77.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 17, 2015, 03:54:15 PM
WA have loads spare Platinums of the weekends, so it makes sense to use them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 18, 2015, 04:29:54 PM
4126 out on the 10, not ALXs are scheduled for use on WA on Sunday according to allocation sheets, 1762 most lively bus ive been on so far is on the 29 usually E200 on a sunday as the bus does the 301/302 in the evenings switches from the 29 into at 301 at Walsall at 2015
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 18, 2015, 06:13:54 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 18, 2015, 04:29:54 PM
4126 out on the 10, not ALXs are scheduled for use on WA on Sunday according to allocation sheets, 1762 most lively bus ive been on so far is on the 29 usually E200 on a sunday as the bus does the 301/302 in the evenings switches from the 29 into at 301 at Walsall at 2015

4126 and 4300 in use on the 6/10 today. 4294 is todays 40E.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2015, 08:27:29 AM
4032 first day on the road at Walsall today, on the 8 & 89
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 04:21:21 PM
Tony mate, sort out 4032 I went on it the upper deck stinks of piss and damp, so I didnt sit down incase it one those buses I heard that man likes to piss and graffiti on , I told the driver, he said he knows the bus is shit.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 20, 2015, 04:33:02 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 04:21:21 PM
Tony mate, sort out 4032 I went on it the upper deck stinks of piss and damp, so I didnt sit down incase it one those buses I heard that man likes to piss and graffiti on , I told the driver, he said he knows the bus is shit.

Don't they all😉
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on October 20, 2015, 05:08:25 PM
If you have a complaint about a vehicle's condition, follow the correct channels and use the NX comments page. It's not Tony's job to sort out the fleet's presentation/condition whilst in service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 05:16:57 PM
I know that, but he is high in the ranks at TWM and its his job to allocate the buses to all the depot, so really it is part of his job to make sure all vehicles are in tip top condition...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2015, 06:41:25 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 05:16:57 PM
I know that, but he is high in the ranks at TWM and its his job to allocate the buses to all the depot, so really it is part of his job to make sure all vehicles are in tip top condition...

No I'm not high up, vehicle condition is nothing to do with me, as said complaint go via proper procedures, not me
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on October 20, 2015, 06:43:44 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 05:16:57 PM
I know that, but he is high in the ranks at TWM and its his job to allocate the buses to all the depot, so really it is part of his job to make sure all vehicles are in tip top condition...

I would like to know, how can one person have oversight of the smell and condition of 1500 buses?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 20, 2015, 06:41:25 PM
No I'm not high up, vehicle condition is nothing to do with me, as said complaint go via proper procedures, not me

Tony you said in an email to me on the weekend, you were in charge of all the buses can are the one who decides what depot get what buses, now surely after knowing these buses have been stored for so long you should ensure proper checks are done before putting back into use? or is this not at TWM? so its like Abellio London where TAs comes out not been on the road since say April and has not MOT done no rota done just gets blinds and put out in service? with loads of defects?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: T840MAK on October 20, 2015, 08:24:06 PM
Proper checks didn't include smelling the bus and using air freshner on it the last I knew, I'm sure checks are mechanical to make sure the bus works fine, drives fine and is not a H&S hazard.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 20, 2015, 08:24:20 PM
Spoke to a driver tonight who want best pleased with 4032 apparentky it broke down on him twice
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on October 20, 2015, 08:27:38 PM
Loving the hate being expressed for Presidents tonight
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 20, 2015, 08:28:04 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:22:38 PM
Tony you said in an email to me on the weekend, you were in charge of all the buses can are the one who decides what depot get what buses, now surely after knowing these buses have been stored for so long you should ensure proper checks are done before putting back into use? or is this not at TWM? so its like Abellio London where TAs comes out not been on the road since say April and has not MOT done no rota done just gets blinds and put out in service? with loads of defects?

@Tomf1993 But Tony doesn't have to physically check each vehicle when it is moved, that is up to the receiving depot. Surely soneone at WA must have walked around the bus and checked it before it was allocated service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on October 20, 2015, 08:29:13 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 20, 2015, 08:28:04 PM
@Tomf1993 But Tony doesn't have to physically check each vehicle when it is moved, that is up to the receiving depot. Surely soneone at WA must have walked around the bus and checked it before it was allocated service.

Plus I've never heard of anybody employing a seat sniffer :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:32:33 PM
I told my controller friend at Walsall Bus Stn about it, he said he will look in to it, he said they are staying at WA for long anyway just as a stop gap for repaints and refurbs happening next few months. he also yet me see some of his WTTs , printed some stuff of for me.  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2015, 08:33:24 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:22:38 PM
Tony you said in an email to me on the weekend, you were in charge of all the buses can are the one who decides what depot get what buses, now surely after knowing these buses have been stored for so long you should ensure proper checks are done before putting back into use? or is this not at TWM? so its like Abellio London where TAs comes out not been on the road since say April and has not MOT done no rota done just gets blinds and put out in service? with loads of defects?

Yeh OK, you know that for a fact about Abellio.

I think you will find proper checks were done on the presidents before they re-entered service. A qualified fitter has done a full check on all 9, listed all the defects, even very negligible ones like 'cab window stiff' These vehicles were then taken to the garages along with the paperwork listing all the defects and the garages are having to repair them all before they re-enter service.  This is why it has taken 4 weeks just to get one into service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:38:45 PM
Cheers for the info @Tony   :) btw yes Abellio London Buses are a death trap waiting to happen lol, fires, breakdowns, defect on every vehicles which dont get fixed.... thats the abellio way mate, speak to any driver at Walworth and they will tell you lots of stories, not just WL, QB, BC,
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 20, 2015, 08:43:06 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:38:45 PM
Cheers for the info @Tony   :) btw yes Abellio London Buses are a death trap waiting to happen lol, fires, breakdowns, defect on every vehicles which dont get fixed.... thats the abellio way mate, speak to any driver at Walworth and they will tell you lots of stories, not just WL, QB, BC,

Thanks @Tomf1993 , Abeillio are taking over my favourite London route, the 159 in December with NB4L's from BC, if that is the case god help us all. Still don't know why the contract wasn't awarded to Arriva London, but that argument is for another place.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 20, 2015, 08:48:07 PM
I was on 4105 yesterday and found it great. Pretty nippy to on the long road up towards Aldridge. Comfy as well. By contrast ST02 MAO (4301 I think? ) is I think one of the worst B7TL  I've been on, makes a bad creaking sound at the front, and SLOW isn't the word! Driver on 41 today revving the arse off it and it still moved at a snails pace. Horrible to travel on.  I like voith boxes but they seem to cripple a b7tl , they didn't seem to with Metros
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:48:43 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 20, 2015, 08:43:06 PM
Thanks @Tomf1993 , Abeillio are taking over my favourite London route, the 159 in December with NB4L's from BC, if that is the case god help us all. Still don't know why the contract wasn't awarded to Arriva London, but that argument is for another place.

159 will be based at QB mate
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 20, 2015, 08:49:18 PM
ST02 MZO even. Lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:49:33 PM
4105 is good like i said before, VOITH ALX yuck too slow, ZF is the best
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 20, 2015, 08:50:27 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:48:43 PM
159 will be based at QB mate

Didn't think Battersea Had enough room for it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2015, 08:55:41 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:38:45 PM
Cheers for the info @Tony   :) btw yes Abellio London Buses are a death trap waiting to happen lol, fires, breakdowns, defect on every vehicles which dont get fixed.... thats the abellio way mate, speak to any driver at Walworth and they will tell you lots of stories, not just WL, QB, BC,

Oh yes, Canteen gossip, off course!

I think you'll find TfL do very comprehensive checks on their contractors
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bryan on October 20, 2015, 08:57:21 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:38:45 PM
Cheers for the info @Tony   :) btw yes Abellio London Buses are a death trap waiting to happen lol, fires, breakdowns, defect on every vehicles which dont get fixed.... thats the abellio way mate, speak to any driver at Walworth and they will tell you lots of stories, not just WL, QB, BC,

I sincerely doubt any of that about Abellio. If it was true they wouldn't have an operators licence or have Transport for London bus contracts.

It would be nice if people reported facts and not hearsay.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 09:02:48 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 20, 2015, 08:50:27 PM
Didn't think Battersea Had enough room for it?

Battersea is huge they have space, they have stored E200s TA DART RM and the rest of the junk will have to move out though. plus BC is being rebuilt. bus garages always look bigger then they are.  Stu have you see GAL Q at night lol their buses are all lined up down camberwell station road and out on to camberwell new road its funny lol no cars can pass down station road. all garages have this run in problems
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 09:04:24 PM
Quote from: Bryan on October 20, 2015, 08:57:21 PM
I sincerely doubt any of that about Abellio. If it was true they wouldn't have an operators licence or have Transport for London bus contracts.

It would be nice if people reported facts and not hearsay.

Its facts, its not like major defects like that ofcourse. its more mechanically to do with the buses, like wipers dont have fluiq in it, over reving gear boxes, rear light bulbs gone, etc ect loads silyl things which can be fixed in 5 mins..
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liberator9 on October 20, 2015, 09:06:59 PM
None of those issues likely to lead to being a death trap....so hardly a need to be defamatory towards Abellio.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Liverpool Street on October 20, 2015, 09:08:25 PM
I legit didn't know Walsall was in London. Even more interesting is Abellio running in Birmingham with PG9's??

Amazing, isn't it @Tony

Back on topic.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2015, 09:11:37 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 09:04:24 PM
Its facts, its not like major defects like that ofcourse. its more mechanically to do with the buses, like wipers dont have fluiq in it, over reving gear boxes, rear light bulbs gone, etc ect loads silyl things which can be fixed in 5 mins..

I am in Battersea garage regularly, see my photos I have posted of the Abellio fleet. Any of those defects are found by the driver on his 'walk around check' same as all bus companies do and are fixed before the bus leaves garage. If they are on the road with them it is the drivers own fault for not defecting the bus before leaving the garage.

Battersea is not being rebuilt, it is so short of space that NX are allowed to use spare space to park coaches on layover, anf the Routemaster and other junk you refer to is run by a private company who rend yard space of Abellio
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 20, 2015, 09:12:30 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:49:33 PM
4105 is good like i said before, VOITH ALX yuck too slow, ZF is the best

The Voith tridents aren't too bad tbf. I've been on better voith alx volvos as well but that one today was awful.  They are generally slower than the zf ones though,  have to say I prefer the sound of the Voith tho, think the zf ones sound pretty dull and theyve got the vrt/fleetline-esque whine in top gear
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2015, 09:14:22 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 20, 2015, 08:49:33 PM
4105 is good like i said before, VOITH ALX yuck too slow, ZF is the best

You really are posting some rubbish tonight
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 20, 2015, 09:16:21 PM
Why Tony? I found 4105 good too. From a passenger point of view  so to speak
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Adam 404 on October 20, 2015, 09:21:57 PM
@Bob I think Tony is referring to the clogging up of posts and gossip. You had already mentioned 4105 and doesn't really need the same views being said.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 20, 2015, 09:25:52 PM
Ah ok I see :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 21, 2015, 11:13:16 AM
6747 currently parked on Stand U in Wolverhampton Bus Station for a mobility scooter training excercise
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 21, 2015, 07:03:02 PM
My mom just caught a platinum on the 41!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 21, 2015, 07:06:40 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 21, 2015, 07:03:02 PM
My mom just caught a platinum on the 41!

See noteworthy workings thread. I posted it :)  I will link up that photo which i said i had.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on October 21, 2015, 07:18:19 PM
Unless i'm hallucinating, I seem to remember when the Platinums were on to BC, it was mentioned they will only be relegated to the 900/957, and apart from a school working which is part of board (?) They seem to be on their routes whereas the Walsall Platinums make their way into other routes, is it because Walsall are attempting to get them all out on the road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 21, 2015, 07:19:27 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on October 21, 2015, 07:18:19 PM
Unless i'm hallucinating, I seem to remember when the Platinums were on to BC, it was mentioned they will only be relegated to the 900/957, and apart from a school working which is part of board (?) They seem to be on their routes whereas the Walsall Platinums make their way into other routes, is it because Walsall are attempting to get them all out on the road
The BC ones have done the peak 9E journeys
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 21, 2015, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on October 21, 2015, 07:18:19 PM
Unless i'm hallucinating, I seem to remember when the Platinums were on to BC, it was mentioned they will only be relegated to the 900/957, and apart from a school working which is part of board (?) They seem to be on their routes whereas the Walsall Platinums make their way into other routes, is it because Walsall are attempting to get them all out on the road

There are three routes that WA's Platinum's are 'allowed' to stray onto when they are spare. They are the 6,7 and 77 (Although they have only made it onto the 77 so far).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on October 21, 2015, 07:35:43 PM
I see Walsall garage have 2 buses operating in to Cheslyn Hay High school each day..also 2 from Wolverhampton garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 21, 2015, 07:38:53 PM
Quote from: andyr on October 21, 2015, 07:35:43 PM
I see Walsall garage have 2 buses operating in to Cheslyn Hay High school each day..also 2 from Wolverhampton garage.

Yes, 854 (Cheslyn Hay-Brinsford Via Fetherstone) from WN garage and 868 (Cheslyn Hay-Bloxwich via Essington) from WA depot.


The 854 is two boards in the morning and two boards in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on October 21, 2015, 07:52:55 PM
Quote from: 2206 on October 21, 2015, 07:19:27 PM
The BC ones have done the peak 9E journeys

Those are part of the school journeys (829) mentioned. I don't think these have anything to do with a 900 board.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 21, 2015, 07:57:48 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 21, 2015, 07:52:55 PM
Those are part of the school journeys (829) mentioned. I don't think these have anything to do with a 900 board.
They go back to the garage after the 9 from Quinton
also do a school journey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 21, 2015, 08:02:06 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 21, 2015, 07:03:02 PM
My mom just caught a platinum on the 41!

6746 just departed Willenhall on WA 40 at 19:58.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on October 21, 2015, 08:04:42 PM
Quote from: 2206 on October 21, 2015, 07:57:48 PM
They go back to the garage after the 9 from Quinton

But they also do an 829 from City to St Pauls school after the inbound 9 Halesowen to City trip, that's what I meant.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 21, 2015, 08:11:31 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 21, 2015, 07:52:55 PM
Those are part of the school journeys (829) mentioned. I don't think these have anything to do with a 900 board.

Think @Tony has said before that they are part of a 900 board!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 21, 2015, 08:15:39 PM
With 40 buses they take up a large proportion of the WA fleet do it's inevitable they'll have to go elsewhere when needed. It'll only be a couple of years till they're repainted into standard livery anyway!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on October 21, 2015, 08:21:15 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on October 21, 2015, 08:11:31 PM
Think @Tony has said before that they are part of a 900 board!

Well one is usually a B7RLE and you don't see those on the 900. See also:

http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1861.msg143665;topicseen#msg143665
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 22, 2015, 08:49:41 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 22, 2015, 08:40:14 PM
2100 366 (6) off Scutton
2140 395 (10) off Walsall

@Ashley 60171 It's always nice to see old bus route numbers. Nostalgic! ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 22, 2015, 10:46:21 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 22, 2015, 08:49:41 PM
@Ashley 60171 It's always nice to see old bus route numbers. Nostalgic! ;D

Just a shame it's technically wrong, 395 went up through Pelsall didn't it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 22, 2015, 11:01:46 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 22, 2015, 10:46:21 PM
Just a shame it's technically wrong, 395 went up through Pelsall didn't it?

@Kevin, 395 used to be Walsall - Brownhills - Burntwood (Church) via Walsall Wood and Chasetown. You might be thinking of the 396A and 396C. 396A Walsall - Brownhills Circular via Norton Canes, Pelsall, Rushall. 396C reverse of 396A.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 23, 2015, 06:39:16 AM
395 did do Pelsall before it got withdrawn in 2010.

I caught it one night to my bro's when he lived in Brownhills at that point!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 23, 2015, 07:03:26 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2015, 06:39:16 AM
395 did do Pelsall before it got withdrawn in 2010.

I caught it one night to my bro's when he lived in Brownhills at that point!

Yep, just checked my maps and the last one before the changes dated Oct 2009 has it running up through Pelsall and along the Lichfield Rd to Brownhills
Check and mate  ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on October 23, 2015, 08:14:51 AM
Quote from: Kevin on October 23, 2015, 07:03:26 AM
Yep, just checked my maps and the last one before the changes dated Oct 2009 has it running up through Pelsall and along the Lichfield Rd to Brownhills
Check and mate  ;D

That'll teach me haha :) I'll edit it now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 23, 2015, 09:58:16 AM
The starting date of the timetable booklet I have was 7th May 2006. My information must be obsolete then... Next time, I will leave it to the 'experts'.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 23, 2015, 11:33:38 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 23, 2015, 09:58:16 AM
The starting date of the timetable booklet I have was 7th May 2006. My information must be obsolete then... Next time, I will leave it to the 'experts'.

Sorry bud, just couldn't resist proving myself correct for a change, I know those routes have been chopped and changed over the years before and since (and to be fair no doubt always will be)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 23, 2015, 10:12:38 PM
Judging by the pic tony uploaded of 673* that the old 934/5/6 branding is going to be replaced by the generic platinum branding? I actually liked the 934 branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 23, 2015, 10:42:00 PM
Quote from: Chris on October 23, 2015, 10:12:38 PM
Judging by the pic tony uploaded of 673* that the old 934/5/6 branding is going to be replaced by the generic platinum branding? I actually liked the 934 branding

Wrong!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on October 23, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: Chris on October 23, 2015, 10:12:38 PM
Judging by the pic tony uploaded of 673* that the old 934/5/6 branding is going to be replaced by the generic platinum branding? I actually liked the 934 branding

That's the X51/997 branding that's been applied. Checking the index page, it shows 4739/40 as X51/997 branded whereas previous photos show them with 934-6 branding.

I agree with you though the 934-6 branding is smart, the X51/997 isn't so good.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on October 23, 2015, 11:02:37 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 23, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
That's the X51/997 branding that's been applied. Checking the index page, it shows 4739/40 as X51/997 branded whereas previous photos show them with 934-6 branding.

I agree with you though the 934-6 branding is smart, the X51/997 isn't so good.

I wouldn't even call it branding. It's more "mentioning of the routes"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 23, 2015, 11:04:30 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 23, 2015, 10:43:33 PM
That's the X51/997 branding that's been applied. Checking the index page, it shows 4739/40 as X51/997 branded whereas previous photos show them with 934-6 branding.

I agree with you though the 934-6 branding is smart, the X51/997 isn't so good.

Sorry @Tony and will the branding change slightly to accommodate 937 being added into the loop?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident4583 on October 24, 2015, 08:37:16 AM
4032 is on WA40/41 today if anybody wants to find it.
It will be the 8.45 departure off wolverhampton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 24, 2015, 01:30:27 PM
Noticed 1841 on 4M displaying £2.50 off peak return between Walsall and west brom. Trying to compete with diamond?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on October 24, 2015, 02:52:25 PM
6721 (SN15LDD)
was in attendance at Pensnett open day today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on October 24, 2015, 03:24:12 PM
@Trident 4194 it's the Walsall low fare zone advertising
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 24, 2015, 05:24:19 PM
4033 on the 29
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 24, 2015, 10:04:59 PM
4128 had one of it's top deck windows shattered this evening whilst on an 89. Looked as if it had been shot at with a pellet gun. Passengers were transferred onto a 59 behind.

This happened on Wolverhampton Rd by New Cross Hospital.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 24, 2015, 10:55:30 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 24, 2015, 10:04:59 PM
4128 had one of it's top deck windows shattered this evening whilst on an 89. Looked as if it had been shot at with a pellet gun. Passengers were transferred onto a 59 behind.

I remember someone aiming a brick at an evening 562 when TWM operated it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on October 25, 2015, 11:41:18 AM
Referring to discussions from the past week regarding the use of old route numbers.

@Alex the 529 is an obvious one but its a PL route these days so that won't happen again most likely. Probably programmed. Didn't 4051 get an LED about a year before getting ita toothpaste refurb?

Maybe there could be a thread for this I'm not sure but is it ok to use the old route numbers where possible or would it just confuse people?

Answers on a postcard to me in my house lol.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 26, 2015, 08:30:10 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on October 26, 2015, 07:51:43 AM
(WA) 4033 on rt40/41 today on rt41 to Willenhall leaves new invention square at 7:57 arr 8:11 Willenhall Dep 8:15 arr 9:09 Walsall

4033 is on 41/01 board. If it manages to stay on the board all day with no issues then it will do the 89 tonight.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on October 26, 2015, 09:37:02 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 26, 2015, 08:30:10 AM
4033 is on 41/01 board. If it manages to stay on the board all day with no issues then it will do the 89 tonight.
@P419 EJW have you got timings ex Wolves and Walsall please ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 26, 2015, 09:59:26 AM
Quote from: Rhys 1436 on October 26, 2015, 09:37:02 AM
@P419 EJW have you got timings ex Wolves and Walsall please ?

10:15 40 ex Wolverhampton.
11:10 41 ex Walsall.
12:00 41 ex Willenhall.
12:55 40 ex Walsall.
13:45 40 ex Wolverhampton.
14:40 41 ex Walsall.
15:30 41 ex Willenhall.
Etc. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on October 26, 2015, 10:02:05 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 26, 2015, 09:59:26 AM
10:15 40 ex Wolverhampton.
11:10 41 ex Walsall.
12:00 41 ex Willenhall.
12:55 40 ex Walsall.
13:45 40 ex Wolverhampton.
14:40 41 ex Walsall.
15:30 41 ex Willenhall.
Etc. :)
Thanks @P419 EJW
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 26, 2015, 01:14:08 PM
The amended 93* branding has an extra darker circle with 937 and Peak Times added to the 936. The map on the rear has 937 also
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 26, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
Is it just me but has 6739 been changed from 934 branding to 997/x51?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on October 26, 2015, 05:38:12 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 26, 2015, 05:25:22 PM
Is it just me but has 6739 been changed from 934 branding to 997/x51?

No it's not you BU07LGO, 6740 has also been done - see messages 2679 to 2681 in this thread.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 26, 2015, 06:38:40 PM
Quote from: Mike K on October 26, 2015, 05:38:12 PM


No it's not you BU07LGO, 6740 has also been done - see messages 2679 to 2681 in this thread.

Thanks for that, 6739 is a bad one the doors take ages!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on October 26, 2015, 06:40:30 PM
Did the 937 on 6742 earlier not a bad route tbf, makes a change to have the wifi and high back seats .
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 27, 2015, 07:17:30 AM
The 2nd Cannock x51 is running around 10 mins late this morning.

At least I havent had to catch it this morning as Im elsewhere today.

Sister has already given up & walked round to Bloxwich Road.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 27, 2015, 09:02:19 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 27, 2015, 07:17:30 AM
The 2nd Cannock x51 is running around 10 mins late this morning.

At least I havent had to catch it this morning as Im elsewhere today.

Sister has already given up & walked round to Bloxwich Road.

I've got a Cannock one Thursday for the first time hopefully I don't get lost haha
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on October 27, 2015, 12:13:50 PM
4032/3 on 40/41 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James4368 on October 27, 2015, 04:12:26 PM
( Not my image)

1883 getting service at Keltruck

https://www.flickr.com/photos/keltruck/21897577154/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on October 28, 2015, 08:02:40 AM
Latest transfer or loan to (WA) Enviro 200 837 on rt6 just left Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 28, 2015, 08:06:54 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on October 28, 2015, 08:02:40 AM
Latest transfer or loan to (WA) Enviro 200 837 on rt6 just left Walsall

Did it operate as a 6E-Aldridge? If so, then it is a trip that WB operate on there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 28, 2015, 08:15:51 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on October 28, 2015, 08:02:40 AM
Latest transfer or loan to (WA) Enviro 200 837 on rt6 just left Walsall

It is on the WB running on the 6, not on loan to WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on October 28, 2015, 10:55:44 AM
1769 sounds like it's in a bad shape. Just screeched out of Walsall!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 28, 2015, 11:32:26 AM
Anyone looking for Presidents? 4032 has just passed through Wednesfield High St on the 89 going towards Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 28, 2015, 11:58:37 AM
Quote from: Nathan on October 28, 2015, 11:32:26 AM
Anyone looking for Presidents? 4032 has just passed through Wednesfield High St on the 89 going towards Walsall.

4033 is also on the 89.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on October 28, 2015, 07:02:12 PM
Ive been on all the WA Presidents nowm not very impressed. knackered is the word.  also why an earth do some have ALX headlights?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on October 28, 2015, 08:45:04 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on October 28, 2015, 07:02:12 PM
Ive been on all the WA Presidents nowm not very impressed. knackered is the word.  also why an earth do some have ALX headlights?

I believe the bulbs are a lot easier to change on the round lights as oppose to square, hence the change when refurbished.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 28, 2015, 08:58:52 PM
Have any Presidents been spotted on the 301 or 302 yet?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: domino.99 on October 28, 2015, 08:59:53 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 28, 2015, 08:58:52 PM
Have any Presidents been spotted on the 301 or 302 yet?

Yes, 4105 was on there on Monday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on October 29, 2015, 02:24:47 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 28, 2015, 08:58:52 PM
Have any Presidents been spotted on the 301 or 302 yet?

4105 has been on it a few times. Saw it broken down in St. Pauls Bus Station on Monday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2015, 08:04:26 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 29, 2015, 02:24:47 AM
4105 has been on it a few times. Saw it broken down in St. Pauls Bus Station on Monday.

4105 is on there today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 29, 2015, 12:34:04 PM
Just had a thought.

When the Presidents were previously at Walsall, there was one on the 301 one Sunday.

We only got as far as the depot, when we turned in there & we had to swop to a B6.

Dont think I saw a President after that, so it must have been the last day before they transferred over to Birmingham.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 29, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on October 29, 2015, 03:31:29 PM
4033 is on 10/A

If it stays on board it will do

x51 Walsall 1655
X56 Birmingham 1740

If it did I will be gutted! Had the chance to leave work early at 5 and if I did that would have been me ride home on the X56!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 29, 2015, 08:11:51 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 29, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
If it did I will be gutted! Had the chance to leave work early at 5 and if I did that would have been me ride home on the X56!

It did work the X51. Unless it broke down, yes it would have done the X56 too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 29, 2015, 08:14:19 PM
Damnit.
Totally would have rode it all the way to Burntwood as well, because I didn't have any plans for the evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 29, 2015, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 29, 2015, 08:00:57 PM
If it did I will be gutted! Had the chance to leave work early at 5 and if I did that would have been me ride home on the X56!

Can confirm 4033 did serve the X56. Got pictures of it on X51 and X56.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MrBevan2000 on October 30, 2015, 12:36:06 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 29, 2015, 11:31:30 PM
Can confirm 4033 did serve the X56. Got pictures of it on X51 and X56.

The only day I'm not out and the X51/X56 is a President! I hope they allocate a President on that running board tomorrow!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 30, 2015, 10:08:55 AM
the second 936 from brownhills in the morning seems to be enviro ran
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 31, 2015, 02:28:55 PM
@James4368

Its not uncommon to get deckers on the 301/2 on a Saturday.

I think there are 3 deckers on the 301 and an Enviro400 on the 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 01, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
Anyone know what normally does the morning X56? Never see it myself cause it's too late for my 8am start at work. Just wondering whether it's a Platinum or not.
I know the morning short is a 51 board so usually branded and the evening run is from the 10 so any old decker
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 01, 2015, 10:27:55 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 01, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
Anyone know what normally does the morning X56? Never see it myself cause it's too late for my 8am start at work. Just wondering whether it's a Platinum or not.
I know the morning short is a 51 board so usually branded and the evening run is from the 10 so any old decker

I saw it one morning last week and it was an unbranded Enviro400 (4869 or 4870)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 01, 2015, 10:33:34 PM
Quote from: John on November 01, 2015, 10:27:55 PM
I saw it one morning last week and it was an unbranded Enviro400 (4869 or 4870)

Ah nice one.
Also anyone know if it still then goes onto a 997 short working after?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on November 01, 2015, 10:56:40 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 01, 2015, 10:33:34 PM
Ah nice one.
Also anyone know if it still then goes onto a 997 short working after?

Yes, it still does then returns back to garage. I believe it is booked a Platinum, but due to the nature of the board its probably not uncommon to find E400s or even Tridents on it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on November 01, 2015, 11:02:18 PM
I've seen a handful of X56s and they have always been Platinums (My Observation)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on November 02, 2015, 08:32:35 AM
It used to be 51 branded but seems to always be platinum when I see it now, it then does a 997e to pheasey church to help with the great barr kids in Perry Barr
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on November 03, 2015, 07:10:18 AM
1889 sounds terrible.  Very loud whirring/vibrating coming from back left hand side.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on November 03, 2015, 02:19:52 PM
4024 is out on the 8/89 today. Departed on the 89 from Wolverhampton Bus Station at 14:13.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 03, 2015, 06:28:03 PM
860 on the 301 around lunchtime today, then I saw a Trident on the 336.

Is there normally a reason for this, as I thought the E200 appeared later in the day on the 301, off the Alumwell rota?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 03, 2015, 06:36:39 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 03, 2015, 06:28:03 PM
860 on the 301 around lunchtime today, then I saw a Trident on the 336.

Is there normally a reason for this, as I thought the E200 appeared later in the day on the 301, off the Alumwell rota?


There's one on there all day nearly every day now a Decker does the 336
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on November 04, 2015, 05:41:30 PM
4033 is on the X56 Boney Hay, just loading in Bull St in the city centre as I type.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on November 04, 2015, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Mike K on November 04, 2015, 05:41:30 PM
4033 is on the 944 Boney Hay, just loading in Union St in the city centre as I type.

Spookily, with the very minor modifications shown, this would have probably been true 43 years ago as well!!

I wonder how 4033 got on today? Quite a hard and well loaded run?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 05, 2015, 06:35:18 AM
Gah! Another missed opportunity!

Quote from: don on November 04, 2015, 11:29:02 PM
I wonder how 4033 got on today? Quite a hard and well loaded run?

On the X56? Unless there was an X51 missing just before it, then no it wouldn't have been. Never really is loaded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on November 05, 2015, 08:20:54 AM
(WA) 4024 on rt 10/10A today on rt10 just leaving Walsall 8:20/25
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 05, 2015, 10:37:59 AM
4065 out on the 6 today

First day at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 05, 2015, 03:05:39 PM
Are all remaining Presidents transfering to Walsall or just certain ones?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on November 05, 2015, 03:14:34 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 05, 2015, 03:05:39 PM
Are all remaining Presidents transfering to Walsall or just certain ones?

The Presidents are only at Walsall to cover for the increase in work this side of Xmas due to the Amazon contract, once that finishes, I'd expect them to re-enter reserve
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 05, 2015, 03:16:35 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 05, 2015, 03:05:39 PM
Are all remaining Presidents transfering to Walsall or just certain ones?

Don't think Walsall needs around 70 Presidents
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on November 06, 2015, 10:39:53 AM
Quote from: Tony on November 05, 2015, 10:37:59 AM
4065 out on the 6 today

First day at Walsall

Great to see more of these charismatic old girls around Scutter.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: filbus1 on November 06, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
Quote from: Westy on November 05, 2015, 03:05:39 PM
Are all remaining Presidents transfering to Walsall or just certain ones?
4071 looking very dead in Bearwood so this one may not.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 06, 2015, 02:30:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 05, 2015, 10:37:59 AM
4065 out on the 6 today

First day at Walsall

After nipping down to Walsall today, to get one of these free Swiftcards, I went up to Pelsall, to see these knitted poppies & got 4065 up to there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 06, 2015, 02:33:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 05, 2015, 10:37:59 AM
4065 out on the 6 today

First day at Walsall

On the 8/89 if anybody is looking?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on November 10, 2015, 12:36:13 PM
4072 out today on 77 1240 Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 11, 2015, 06:54:32 AM
4105 and 4293 both on the A52 this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on November 11, 2015, 07:16:24 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 11, 2015, 06:54:32 AM
4105 and 4293 both on the A52 this morning.

4032 was on the A51 yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 11, 2015, 07:32:50 PM
Just a quick question as i have lost track?

How many Presidents are at WA and are in service?

I have 4024,4032,4033,4065, 4072 and 4105.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 11, 2015, 07:33:37 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 11, 2015, 07:32:50 PM
Just a quick question as i have lost track?

How many Presidents are at WA and are in service?

I have 4032,4033,4072 and 4105.

4024 has been out, but is currently at Trailways
4065 is also out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 11, 2015, 07:38:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 11, 2015, 07:33:37 PM
4024 has been out, but is currently at Trailways
4065 is also out

Thanks, i knew there were two more but couldn't remember the fleet numbers for some reason.

I do recall catching 4024 on the 89 so know that has been out as you say.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on November 12, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
How come 934 had a envrio &937 had a trident
I thought they had enough of the new buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on November 12, 2015, 06:06:47 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on November 12, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
How come 934 had a envrio &937 had a trident
I thought they had enough of the new buses

They did have enough Platinum's before Diamond withdrew their 56 & the 937 was introduced
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 12, 2015, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 12, 2015, 06:06:47 PM
They did have enough Platinum's before Diamond withdrew their 56 & the 937 was introduced

Because of course NX didn't expect Diamond to withdraw their service....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on November 12, 2015, 06:39:49 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 12, 2015, 06:35:31 PM
Because of course NX didn't expect Diamond to withdraw their service....

They may well have expected it, but when & if was the question mark, they can't afford to buy extra Platinum's on the back of if's, but's & maybe's....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 13, 2015, 02:42:04 PM
1846 being driven by an engineer down the main Lichfield Rd then up Linthouse Lane in Wednesfield towards Park Lane Garage about 12:50
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on November 13, 2015, 05:38:10 PM
Just had 6752 it's now got 934/5/6/7 branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on November 13, 2015, 08:55:49 PM
4035 on rt10 tonight leaves Walsall 21:10 & 4105 on rt89 tonight leaves Walsall 21:05
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on November 13, 2015, 09:14:14 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on November 13, 2015, 08:55:49 PM
4035 on rt10 tonight leaves Walsall 21:10 & 4105 on rt89 tonight leaves Walsall 21:05

4065 also on WA 10. Probably will do the 6 at 21:25.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 15, 2015, 10:07:25 PM
Anyone seen the revised leaflet for the Brownhills to Brum corridor yet?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on November 15, 2015, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 15, 2015, 10:07:25 PM
Anyone seen the revised leaflet for the Brownhills to Brum corridor yet?
they are out  in walall & Birmingham travel shopss
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 16, 2015, 03:11:06 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on November 15, 2015, 10:48:33 PM
they are out  in walall & Birmingham travel shopss

Birmingham never had any on Saturday when I looked
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: uniquicity on November 16, 2015, 03:40:08 AM
Quote from: John on November 16, 2015, 03:11:06 AM
Birmingham never had any on Saturday when I looked

I got one from the New St travel shop at the Stephenson St entrance
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 16, 2015, 06:21:06 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on November 15, 2015, 10:48:33 PM
they are out  in walall & Birmingham travel shopss

Well they wasnt in Walsall when I checked Friday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 16, 2015, 07:17:52 AM
709 311 from Walsall has broken down between new Bescot roundabout & J9

Bus is 1769.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on November 16, 2015, 08:49:48 AM
Rare working enviro 200 (859) on rt69 on 8:25 off Walsall left 8:42
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 16, 2015, 12:53:27 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 15, 2015, 10:07:25 PM
Anyone seen the revised leaflet for the Brownhills to Brum corridor yet?

I managed to pick the last one up in West Bromwich on Saturday! It looks really smart!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 16, 2015, 01:32:06 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on November 16, 2015, 08:49:48 AM
Rare working enviro 200 (859) on rt69 on 8:25 off Walsall left 8:42

That is rare! First E200 to appear on there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on November 17, 2015, 07:31:38 PM
Rarest Enviro 200 yet! (855) on rt89 just left pelsall heading for Wolverhampton dep 20:03 & 22:03 should be out all night unless it gets changed dep Walsall 21:05 & 23:05 they must be short on buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on November 17, 2015, 07:41:27 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on November 17, 2015, 07:31:38 PM
Rarest Enviro 200 yet! (855) on rt89 just left pelsall heading for Wolverhampton dep 20:03 & 22:03 should be out all night unless it gets changed dep Walsall 21:05 & 23:05 they must be short on buses

It'll return to garage from Walsall at 2100

The 2105 Walsall 89 is covered by a 41 board
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 17, 2015, 08:22:38 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on November 17, 2015, 07:31:38 PM
Rarest Enviro 200 yet! (855) on rt89 just left pelsall heading for Wolverhampton dep 20:03 & 22:03 should be out all night unless it gets changed dep Walsall 21:05 & 23:05 they must be short on buses

No, the one you reported yesterday was. That was the first time an E200 has been on the 69. And E200 appeared on the 89 sometime last year when the E200's were new.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on November 17, 2015, 08:26:18 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on November 17, 2015, 07:31:38 PM
Rarest Enviro 200 yet! (855) on rt89 just left pelsall heading for Wolverhampton dep 20:03 & 22:03 should be out all night unless it gets changed dep Walsall 21:05 & 23:05 they must be short on buses

21:05 and 23:05 departures ex Walsall are from the RB 41/01. That E200 will go back to garage when it gets back to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on November 20, 2015, 07:13:15 PM
@Tony do you know why theres a B10L on the engineering bay? My only thought is they might be stripping parts off it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 20, 2015, 07:24:26 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 20, 2015, 07:13:15 PM
@Tony do you know why theres a B10L on the engineering bay? My only thought is they might be stripping parts off it?

One of the trainers needs a replacement engine
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 23, 2015, 09:14:35 AM
4027 out for the first time today, on the 10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on November 23, 2015, 10:44:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 23, 2015, 09:14:35 AM
4027 out for the first time today, on the 10

A lot of drivers like the presidents, especially the fact you can open one door at once so the school kids cant force on!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on November 23, 2015, 10:50:02 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 23, 2015, 10:44:04 PM
A lot of drivers like the presidents, especially the fact you can open one door at once so the school kids cant force on!

Lol that's the only pro of them. And also, if you keep the close door button pressed, the emergency button from outside won't open the doors. Same if you keep the open button pressed, the emergency exit above the doors inside can't be closed (like some idiots who try to be funny).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on November 24, 2015, 10:54:00 AM
Most drivers on west broms 5 service like the presidents , only negative comment is cab space but majority like the way they drive.
I had 4057 the other day seriously pleasant bus to drive it's not the quickest but it made up for that in comfortable ride , downside the cab having the steering from a sailing ship no need a shirt button is all that is required.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 25, 2015, 09:15:24 PM
For the President Fans (The buses, not Obama!)

4027 on late night 89s. Worked the 21:05 from Wolverhampton so will work the 22:05 from Walsall and 23:05 from Wolverhampton.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on November 25, 2015, 09:20:03 PM
Quote from: 2900 on November 24, 2015, 10:54:00 AM
Most drivers on west broms 5 service like the presidents , only negative comment is cab space but majority like the way they drive.
I had 4057 the other day seriously pleasant bus to drive it's not the quickest but it made up for that in comfortable ride , downside the cab having the steering from a sailing ship no need a shirt button is all that is required.

4078 is one of the pleasant ones to drive here. Occasional cooling fans but quickly go off.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 26, 2015, 03:26:03 PM
4072 out on the 40/41 today. I think it is the first time that one has been in service at WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 26, 2015, 03:33:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 26, 2015, 03:26:03 PM
4072 out on the 40/41 today. I think it is the first time that one has been in service at WA

Nope, 4072 has been in use for abit now. Had it on the 89 at the start of last week.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on November 26, 2015, 03:46:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 26, 2015, 03:26:03 PM
4072 out on the 40/41 today. I think it is the first time that one has been in service at WA

I'm sure I caught it on the A52 last week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 26, 2015, 05:37:31 PM
4065 (I think it was) is on the 6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on November 26, 2015, 06:08:04 PM
Quote from: John on November 26, 2015, 05:37:31 PM
4065 (I think it was) is on the 6

It was indeed 4065. :) I saw it in Walsall at 11:54.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on November 28, 2015, 08:53:53 PM
Quote from: RS on November 28, 2015, 08:51:17 PM
6764 - 77
@RS no NXWM has 6764 as a fleet nummber
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on November 28, 2015, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 28, 2015, 08:53:53 PM
@RS no NXWM has 6764 as a fleet nummber
Cheers @2206 i mean 6754 must have done a typo
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 28, 2015, 09:02:41 PM
@RS
Spare Platinums are used on the 77, especially on Saturdays (as there are more spare than in the week), so not unusual
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on November 30, 2015, 03:49:58 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on November 30, 2015, 03:24:56 PM
4027 is on 10/A

It will do

X51 1655 Walsall
X56 1740 Birmingham

If it's not replaced.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on December 02, 2015, 08:19:15 PM
Looks like the halo on 6738 isn't a halo any more. :P See here (https://flic.kr/p/ANCo31).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on December 02, 2015, 09:38:23 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 02, 2015, 08:19:15 PM
Looks like the halo on 6738 isn't a halo any more. :P See here (https://flic.kr/p/ANCo31).

It's been like that months! Apparently the wiper went the wrong way according to a driver?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 03, 2015, 10:11:46 AM
4073 on the 77 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 06, 2015, 11:20:45 PM
@RS

1839 on the 7
1843 on the 301
B7RLE's on the 89
4733 on the 6/10

Non of these are noteworthy in the slightest. Especially the middle one.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on December 06, 2015, 11:53:03 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 06, 2015, 11:20:45 PM
@RS

1839 on the 7
1843 on the 301
B7RLE's on the 89
4733 on the 6/10

Non of these are noteworthy in the slightest. Especially the middle one.
I dont go to walsall that often so they are noteworthy to me
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on December 09, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
4073 on 51!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 09, 2015, 02:14:01 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 09, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
4073 on 51!

How long has it lasted on the 51?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on December 09, 2015, 02:15:05 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 09, 2015, 09:06:30 AM
4073 on 51!

Is it still on there?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 09, 2015, 02:48:02 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 09, 2015, 02:15:05 PM
Is it still on there?

It did three round trips, but has now been changed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on December 10, 2015, 07:16:54 PM
4532 is parked by Walsall paintshop leaving just 4528 hanging on
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B.C Driver on December 11, 2015, 12:49:00 AM
Could have sworn I saw 4090 on WA school route 885 yesterday. @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on December 11, 2015, 12:56:23 AM
Quote from: Bham Central Driver on December 11, 2015, 12:49:00 AM
Could have sworn I saw 4090 on WA school route 885 yesterday. @Tony

4090 is a YW one isn't it? If you mean the 885 down here, YW seem to have a running board on it, as well as gaining the 899, which is often MMC run.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jaysnerz007 on December 11, 2015, 01:32:11 AM
Mr MW did you get sack from AG ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on December 11, 2015, 02:58:52 AM
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on December 11, 2015, 01:32:11 AM
Mr MW did you get sack from AG ?

Yup
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on December 11, 2015, 10:54:49 AM
MW, Sorry to read you have been dismissed just before Christmas as well , at least you,ve experienced what it's like being nx driver it's not easy as people make out , MR and Mrs joe public just think your sat on on your Arse in a warm comfortable environment turning that wheel here and there. They don't see realise what a nx driver has to do to get the basic 38 hr pay especially with ever increasing compasses, currently 8hrs 45 is the max at west brom before a duty is considered to be split duty, I hear at BC it's 9hrs 15 mins is the max compass on a normal duty, may be some one can enlighten me.
I,ve rambled on again.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jaysnerz007 on December 11, 2015, 11:39:36 AM
Will you be going to diamond or
Another bus company now MW ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on December 11, 2015, 12:27:23 PM
I'll comment on this in detail after my appeals hearing depending on the result.

Nah Jay, after this, I probably won't go near a bus company, maybe coach when I'm older (not old enough yet lol)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 11, 2015, 12:45:24 PM
4076 did the 159 this morning. Think that is the first time that one has come out at WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jaysnerz007 on December 11, 2015, 12:45:33 PM
Awww thats a shame its put you off but thats the job these days every driver i speak to says they hate the job now !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 12, 2015, 04:38:37 PM
@Westy just incase you were not aware, Presidents appear on the 8/89 most days sometimes daily.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on December 12, 2015, 06:39:30 PM
i got pics of 4027 and 4033 today lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on December 18, 2015, 01:17:35 PM
4273 is on WA 40/41, is it just a loan or a transfer? Just passed me around 1313 in Lower Lodge Farm/Bentley area.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on December 21, 2015, 01:52:54 PM
For anybody it may interest. Walsall's Plaxtons are out on the following.

4024 - 302 +1 UID
4032 4065 + 1 or 2 others UID - 40/41
4033 - 7
4105 4035 - 8/89 + 1 UID
4072 - 6
4027 - 69

Edit

Cheers John. Cameras gone and broke so that's 4 hours I'll never get back lol.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 21, 2015, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 21, 2015, 01:52:54 PM
For anybody it may interest. Walsall's Plaxtons are out on the following.

4024 - 302
4032 4065 + 1 or 2 others UID - 40/41
4033 4035 - 7
4105 - 8/89 + 1 UID

4072 is on the 6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 21, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
UID ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 21, 2015, 07:32:11 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 21, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
UID ?

Unidentified perhaps?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 21, 2015, 07:39:05 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 21, 2015, 07:30:37 PM
UID ?

Short for 'unidentified'.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on December 29, 2015, 01:44:58 PM
Quote from: Ossie on December 29, 2015, 01:44:01 PM
WA | 6758 | 77 - noted in Sutton Coldfield
Spare Platinum E400 MMC are used on the 77
@Ossie
Plus its Saturday Service Today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 02, 2016, 12:04:44 PM
Loving the allocation on the 77 today... Platinum and a President...  Oldest and newest deckers in the fleet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 02, 2016, 02:54:11 PM
How long before Walsall lose the Presidents as they were only there while the Amazon contract was serviced, wasnt they?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on January 02, 2016, 07:08:14 PM
Walsall have lost 45xx gemi s plus 4129/4130 loan to BC and 4133 to WN

I expect at least 5/6 will be retained for some time.

5 may be withdrawn. 4068 has still yet to enter service.

I do like them at Walsal.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on January 02, 2016, 07:16:12 PM
Its worth noting that the Amazon services may continue albeit with 1 bus per journey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on January 05, 2016, 07:06:42 PM
4033 was tonight's X56
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 09, 2016, 04:52:45 PM
First new vehicle delivery of 2016

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/0116-0422/95.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 11, 2016, 06:54:58 AM
4869 on the 2nd Cannock X51 journey this morning.
(Normally a Platinum vehicle)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 11, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
4068 on the 10 if anyones in Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on January 11, 2016, 04:34:56 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 11, 2016, 09:23:28 AM
4068 on the 10 if anyones in Walsall

One of 2 buses back on the road after a long time 4735 on 77
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 11, 2016, 05:30:39 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on January 11, 2016, 04:34:56 PM
One of 2 buses back on the road after a long time 4735 on 77

Yes, all 11 Presidents at WA have now worked, although 4076 has only done half a day and is currently at BC receiving repairs for a fresh MoT
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 11, 2016, 06:07:20 PM
4068 looks as though the rear end was repainted
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 11, 2016, 06:12:00 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 11, 2016, 06:07:20 PM
4068 looks as though the rear end was repainted

It has had quite a tidy up, a lot of fresh red paint as well as white, actually looks quite presentable. All done by hand with a roller it hasn't actually visited the paintshop
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 11, 2016, 06:26:36 PM
she did look smart, i think all the presidents at WA look smart to be fair
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on January 11, 2016, 07:01:27 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on January 11, 2016, 04:34:56 PM
One of 2 buses back on the road after a long time 4735 on 77
Thought I hadn't seen 4735 for ages. Its not as nice as the other 47xx to drive though it doesn't kick down when you want it to or rev as freely, and the tracking was out when I last had it!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 11, 2016, 07:30:26 PM
I thought 4735 went to cov lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 14, 2016, 03:12:21 PM
Hi guys. Was with a driver on a PB based E40D the other day and while we were sat at terminus, we decided to have a look through the display and found 934/5/6 (I don't think 937 is on PB blinds yet). We decided to have a look through the options and found "934E Aston Six Ways" on the blinds. Does anyone know why this is on there? The 934/5/6/7 don't even stop at Aston Six Ways!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on January 14, 2016, 03:36:00 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 14, 2016, 03:12:21 PM
Hi guys. Was with a driver on a PB based E40D the other day and while we were sat at terminus, we decided to have a look through the display and found 934/5/6 (I don't think 937 is on PB blinds yet). We decided to have a look through the options and found "934E Aston Six Ways" on the blinds. Does anyone know why this is on there? The 934/5/6/7 don't even stop at Aston Six Ways!

Perhaps not, but that would provide a sensible finishing point to send a vehicle empty to shed via Witton Road and Aston Lane.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on January 14, 2016, 04:33:35 PM
@Jack6101 860 has not been anywhere near Dudley since it left garage at 6:06 exactly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on January 14, 2016, 05:01:12 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 14, 2016, 03:12:21 PM
Hi guys. Was with a driver on a PB based E40D the other day and while we were sat at terminus, we decided to have a look through the display and found 934/5/6 (I don't think 937 is on PB blinds yet). We decided to have a look through the options and found "934E Aston Six Ways" on the blinds. Does anyone know why this is on there? The 934/5/6/7 don't even stop at Aston Six Ways!

Ill have a look to see if ours have it I don't recall it though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on January 14, 2016, 05:10:51 PM
Quote from: WN on January 14, 2016, 04:33:35 PM
Not been anywhere near Dudley since it left garage at 6:06 exactly

That clears it up nicely, then.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 15, 2016, 11:46:32 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on January 14, 2016, 05:01:12 PM
Ill have a look to see if ours have it I don't recall it though.

I suspect it's only for PB if they are called to operate on the route. Although if it is on WA, I'd suspect it is for late running services. If they terminate at Aston Six Ways, they can just turn around on the island and go back over the Flyover avoiding City. Probably the easiest place to turn around too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on January 15, 2016, 05:58:22 PM
@WN but there was a e200 on there yesterday I said I thought it was that plus how to u know where 860 was
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 15, 2016, 07:42:27 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 15, 2016, 05:58:22 PM
@WN but there was a e200 on there yesterday I said I thought it was that plus how to u know where 860 was

It was 859 that did two trips to Dudley yesterday morning, One 311 and one 313
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on January 16, 2016, 05:40:36 PM
@Dylanbusboy45

1841 on the 10 and 4735 on the 7 are noteworthy. The rest are normal. The 301 does see at least 1 decker on some Saturdays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on January 16, 2016, 05:41:18 PM
Ok thanks @John
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 16, 2016, 09:52:35 PM
2. deckers on 301 today 4327 & 4261
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 19, 2016, 06:54:14 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 19, 2016, 04:49:48 PM
1767/4733 - WA7
4869 - WA6
4737 - WA51
4735 - WA X51/997
4236/4246 - PB Sutton Lines

4737 probably did the first X56 this morning which then goes on the 51. Always either a Trident Enviro 400 or an E40D.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 19, 2016, 07:08:33 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 19, 2016, 06:54:14 PM
4737 probably did the first X56 this morning which then goes on the 51. Always either a Trident Enviro 400 or an E40D.

Why on earth is an Walsall Enviro 400 on Walsall's only Enviro 400 route considered in the slightest bit noteworthy?

Michael's comment is also incorrect. Walsall do not differentiate in the slightest between unbranded 48xx and the 47xx buses.

Some of the 'rare workings' mentioned are just getting too silly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on January 19, 2016, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 19, 2016, 07:08:33 PM
Why on earth is an Walsall Enviro 400 on Walsall's only Enviro 400 route considered in the slightest bit noteworthy?

Michael's comment is also incorrect. Walsall do not differentiate in the slightest between unbranded 48xx and the 47xx buses.

Some of the 'rare workings' mentioned are just getting too silly

The 10 running boards say that should be enviro but there's obviously not enough to go around
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 19, 2016, 08:19:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 19, 2016, 07:08:33 PM
Why on earth is an Walsall Enviro 400 on Walsall's only Enviro 400 route considered in the slightest bit noteworthy?

Michael's comment is also incorrect. Walsall do not differentiate in the slightest between unbranded 48xx and the 47xx buses.

Some of the 'rare workings' mentioned are just getting too silly

I was on about the X56 run being a Trident Enviro or E40D. For the past few weeks it has been a Trident Enviro which then does the 51 all day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 19, 2016, 08:32:16 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 19, 2016, 08:19:50 PM
I was on about the X56 run being a Trident Enviro or E40D. For the past few weeks it has been a Trident Enviro which then does the 51 all day.

And that is pure chance as Walsall do not differentiate. NXWM do not recoginse Trident Enviros and E40Ds as anything different.

4737 was not on the X56 this morning, it was on 51-08 which does a 41 first which is why it is an unbranded bus.
4736 has also been on the 51 all day on 51-07 which is the board that does the X56 and again will be an unbranded bus which is why it stands more chance of being a 47xx, but is just as likely to be 4869 or 4870
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 20, 2016, 06:52:03 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 19, 2016, 08:32:16 PM
And that is pure chance as Walsall do not differentiate. NXWM do not recoginse Trident Enviros and E40Ds as anything different.

4737 was not on the X56 this morning, it was on 51-08 which does a 41 first which is why it is an unbranded bus.
4736 has also been on the 51 all day on 51-07 which is the board that does the X56 and again will be an unbranded bus which is why it stands more chance of being a 47xx, but is just as likely to be 4869 or 4870

Ah ok. Thank you for correcting me. 4869 is on the first X56 this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 23, 2016, 12:16:30 PM
Currently on 6727 on the X51...The on board screen advertises it as X51 Cannock -Bloxwich -Walsall - Great Barr -Birmingham. ..isn't that a bit confusing for passengers considering there's only three/two starting from & going to and no journeys either way at weekends?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 23, 2016, 06:31:47 PM
Quote from: Bob on January 23, 2016, 12:16:30 PM
Currently on 6727 on the X51...The on board screen advertises it as X51 Cannock -Bloxwich -Walsall - Great Barr -Birmingham. ..isn't that a bit confusing for passengers considering there's only three/two starting from & going to and no journeys either way at weekends?

And the journeys from Cannock, due to the Gps(?) show Walsall Bus Station, then Lichfield Street Town Hall then Six Ways Lysways Street before reaching the Bus Station stop!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on January 23, 2016, 07:06:48 PM
Quote from: Bob on January 23, 2016, 12:16:30 PM
Currently on 6727 on the X51...The on board screen advertises it as X51 Cannock -Bloxwich -Walsall - Great Barr -Birmingham. ..isn't that a bit confusing for passengers considering there's only three/two starting from & going to and no journeys either way at weekends?

It's only baffled you though. Nobody else would have batted an eyelid.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on January 23, 2016, 07:13:23 PM
Maybe nx will go cannock brum once an hour? Must be a potential market there?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 23, 2016, 08:27:42 PM
Quote from: Chris on January 23, 2016, 07:13:23 PM
Maybe nx will go cannock brum once an hour? Must be a potential market there?

Maybe if Arriva behave & dont rip down the timetables like whats been quoted on here re the 154 in the past!

Id be very surprised if they do go back into Cannock full time!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on January 23, 2016, 08:33:36 PM
Quote from: Chris on January 23, 2016, 07:13:23 PM
Maybe nx will go cannock brum once an hour? Must be a potential market there?

It's a good idea I would have thought the demand was always there ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 24, 2016, 10:37:57 AM
Scania Omnilink 1883 is on the Tame Bridge Parkway-Rugeley Trent Valley Rail Replacement today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 24, 2016, 12:00:52 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 23, 2016, 07:06:48 PM
It's only baffled you though. Nobody else would have batted an eyelid.

Well if you were from out of area and saw it you could be forgiven for thinking it ran from Cannock. ....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 24, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 23, 2016, 08:27:42 PM
Maybe if Arriva behave & dont rip down the timetables like whats been quoted on here re the 154 in the past!

Id be very surprised if they do go back into Cannock full time!

Yea can't see it happening.  The Cannock  to Walsall routes used to be  pretty busy a few years ago but seemed to have died a death. Even the 1 is never that busy whenever I've been on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 24, 2016, 03:19:33 PM
Quote from: Bob on January 24, 2016, 12:03:39 PM
Yea can't see it happening.  The Cannock  to Walsall routes used to be  pretty busy a few years ago but seemed to have died a death. Even the 1 is never that busy whenever I've been on there

Is that despite Artiva's recent mucking about with the route?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 24, 2016, 03:36:02 PM
yep. but also you'd think sapphire upgrade would have increased patronage. maybe there's just not the market for cannock  to  walsall services anymore especially with the train improvement  coming
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 25, 2016, 06:32:44 PM
Where can I find 4776?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on January 25, 2016, 06:57:58 PM
It has a tachograph so most of the time its on the colleage run
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 25, 2016, 07:09:23 PM
Quote from: RS on January 25, 2016, 06:57:58 PM
It has a tachograph so most of the time its on the colleage run

Never in public service on Saturdays?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 25, 2016, 07:17:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 25, 2016, 07:09:23 PM
Never in public service on Saturdays?

It's in service some weekdays when not required on the college, and when it is in public service it will be where any Walsall Enviros are.

There is a list of routes / vehicles in the files specifically for that purpose
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 25, 2016, 07:25:28 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 25, 2016, 06:32:44 PM
Where can I find 4776?

It was on the 51 earlier.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on January 25, 2016, 07:51:34 PM
It was on the 302 Saturday just gone. In the last weeks before the 93x routes went platinum it kept turning up on those! Those were the days! I had 4734, 4776,4819,4820,4801 all in one week!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 27, 2016, 09:22:33 AM
Anybody after Walsall presidents

4027 is on 301
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on January 29, 2016, 09:18:41 PM
President (4035 I think) on the Alumwell route today.

First time Ive seen one on there anyway.

It was indeed 4035. It appeared on the 335 at about 10 to 4 having come from the garage. I made it 8 presidents in service today at walsall:  4024/32/3/5/65/8/72/73. Those were the ones I saw this afternoon anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on January 29, 2016, 10:57:01 PM
One of them makes a nice roaring sound lol needs some coolant in it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on January 30, 2016, 11:10:22 AM
4033 is on the 302 if anyone wants it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 30, 2016, 11:27:22 AM
I posted in buses to find about 4033 lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on January 30, 2016, 09:39:56 PM
Bit of useless gen but Walsall now appear to be re-applying the National Express logo in the red part of the livery to fit in with the 184* style by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 30, 2016, 10:07:31 PM
Quote from: WN on January 30, 2016, 09:39:56 PM
Bit of useless gen but Walsall now appear to be re-applying the National Express logo in the red part of the livery to fit in with the 184* style by the looks of it.

On which vehicles? I assume you mean the 58/09 plate Omnilinks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on January 30, 2016, 10:08:42 PM
Quote from: Nathan on January 30, 2016, 10:07:31 PM
On which vehicles? I assume you mean the 58/09 plate Omnilinks?

Yes. Just the 09 plates from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 31, 2016, 09:55:27 AM
Quote from: WN on January 30, 2016, 09:39:56 PM
Bit of useless gen but Walsall now appear to be re-applying the National Express logo in the red part of the livery to fit in with the 184* style by the looks of it.

Are you sure you haven't just seen 1896 & 1918 the two later ones that have had a repaint?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on January 31, 2016, 10:28:33 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 31, 2016, 09:55:27 AM
Are you sure you haven't just seen 1896 & 1918 the two later ones that have had a repaint?

99% certain. I saw a few on Friday I'll be able to double check Monday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 900 on February 02, 2016, 09:30:32 AM
4105 is back out and on the 77 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 03, 2016, 02:23:02 PM
For those who are interested - 4105 is on the 8/89, it departed Wolverhampton Bus Station on the 89 at 14:13.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on February 04, 2016, 12:51:57 PM
For anybody looking for presidents
4105 40
4068 40
4033 336
4024 10
4044 (Wb) 45
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on February 05, 2016, 02:15:08 PM
Is 4262 still at Walsall, not seen her for a while
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 05, 2016, 02:16:46 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on February 05, 2016, 02:15:08 PM
Is 4262 still at Walsall, not seen her for a while

Yes. It was on the 69 earlier in the week I think.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 05, 2016, 05:54:18 PM
I got 4068 on 29, 1755 Walsall dep. Now this ill happily pay 4.00 to ride on for few rounders .  4714 also on 45
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 08, 2016, 05:06:22 PM
Just boarded 1890 on the 39 and it has a scanner that isn't working at all. Does this make the bus defective as on the vcr it says to record ticket machine and scanner issues
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 09, 2016, 05:35:09 PM
Someone is going to be in big trouble for this considering that apparently only double deckers are allowed on the X51! Scania Omnilink on WA10/10A/X51/X56.
How do you know someones going to be in big trouble? There could be many possible reasons for why its on there. @Michael Bevan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on February 09, 2016, 05:41:20 PM
Quote from: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
How do you know someones going to be in big trouble? There could be many possible reasons for why its on there. @Michael Bevan
isnt a bus better than no bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 09, 2016, 05:46:07 PM
@Michael Bevan oh really? Then why aren't people getting in to trouble when single decks get on the 126? Or maybe the Merc on the 74?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 09, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
Quote from: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 05:39:40 PM
How do you know someones going to be in big trouble? There could be many possible reasons for why its on there. @Michael Bevan

I am told that the only other vehicles allowed on there are Enviro 400's and the decker for the X56.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 09, 2016, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 09, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
I am told that the only other vehicles allowed on there are Enviro 400's and the decker for the X56.

Yes but you were also told central Buses are having Citaros...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 05:56:19 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 09, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
I am told that the only other vehicles allowed on there are Enviro 400's and the decker for the X56.
I'm sure the X51 has had Omnilinks/Volvo B7RLE before. 1446 was on there in June 2015 and 1891 in December 2015.

How do you know it didn't just possibly replace a breackdown? Its better than no bus at all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 09, 2016, 06:11:03 PM
Quote from: WN on February 09, 2016, 05:54:23 PM
Yes but you were also told central Buses are having Citaros...

You do know I don't get all my information from one source? I do know other people.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on February 09, 2016, 06:14:44 PM
S/d buses have been on x51 before, could be on this site 1 of the 56 plate Volvos on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 09, 2016, 06:17:35 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 09, 2016, 05:51:32 PM
I am told that the only other vehicles allowed on there are Enviro 400's and the decker for the X56.

So 4870 (allocated bus on that board this morning) breaks down and someone replaces it with 1842 to keep the service running. Somehow I doubt he will be in trouble for keeping the service running
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 06:19:14 PM
@Tony  WA should have enough Platinums though or standard deckers like ALX.PLAXTON E400? since deckers are on the 69, the ENG could have took one of that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 09, 2016, 06:21:55 PM
1842 a high backed omnilink? If so there's nothing to complain about.  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 06:24:14 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 09, 2016, 06:21:55 PM
1842 a high backed omnilink? If so there's nothing to complain about.  :)
No its not. The interior 1837 - 1843 is the same as the interior on the Bordesley Omnilinks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on February 09, 2016, 06:28:28 PM
Does it really matter it's a Walsall bus on a Walsall route picking up customers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 09, 2016, 06:30:39 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 06:19:14 PM
@Tony  WA should have enough Platinums though or standard deckers like ALX.PLAXTON E400? since deckers are on the 69, the ENG could have took one of that.

You have no idea how a garage works have you?
You don't put a platinum on the 10 so you haven't got one for the evening peak board on the platinum routes
You cannot just magic a decker off the 69 to put it on the 10, you need to get whatever bus is available out as quickly as possible to replace a defective bus to lose as little mileage s possible, not prat around going out of garage with a single deck chasing a 69, taking the passengers off that bus, just to then charge over to Brownhills or where ever you need to put a bus into service on the 10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:28:44 PM
Then, who ever the people on the AM run out, need to insure they do the allocation properly, single deckers on single deck routes and dds on dd routes. very simple really.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 09, 2016, 07:31:13 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:28:44 PM
Then, who ever the people on the AM run out, need to insure they do the allocation properly, single deckers on single deck routes and dds on dd routes. very simple really.

They do, Tell me one incorrect allocation at Walsall this morning?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:32:48 PM
I cant answer that as I am not up at 8am in the morning to observe the  services, I saw deckers on the 69 this afternoon, and that route is down as Volvo B7 like the 29 is.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 09, 2016, 07:34:43 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 06:19:14 PM
@Tony  WA should have enough Platinums though or standard deckers like ALX.PLAXTON E400? since deckers are on the 69, the ENG could have took one of that.

WA did have enough Platinum's originally,  but Diamond withdrew their 56 & NXWM provided a replacement 937 service whilst retaining the previous 936 as a peak only service, thus increasing total Pvr since they entered service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on February 09, 2016, 07:35:38 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:32:48 PM
I cant answer that as I am not up at 8am in the morning to observe the  services, I saw deckers on the 69 this afternoon, and that route is down as Volvo B7 like the 29 is.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 06:19:14 PM
@Tony  WA should have enough Platinums though or standard deckers like ALX.PLAXTON E400? since deckers are on the 69, the ENG could have took one of that.

Im hazarding a guess that a platinum decker isnt gonna be alllocated to that specific board because it works the 10/A and X56 which are non platinum the other thing is if a driver radios through to traffic office the instant thing the staff would do is locate the nearest bus in garage and send it out to continue service as per @Tony said

@Tomf1993 since the 69 was single decker it mainly gets Plaxtons with the slight chance of a single deck again you cant go and get a singles off the 29 and put doubles on else you will be moaning about that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:36:01 PM
Oh yes, Winston, that is correct, their was a change to the 934 935 997 etc thanks for that, completely slipped my mind.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on February 09, 2016, 07:37:08 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:36:01 PM
Oh yes, Winston, that is correct, their was a change to the 934 935 997 etc thanks for that, completely slipped my mind.
And 4869/70 and 4733-37/76 can be used on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 09, 2016, 07:39:04 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:32:48 PM
I cant answer that as I am not up at 8am in the morning to observe the  services, I saw deckers on the 69 this afternoon, and that route is down as Volvo B7 like the 29 is.

The 69 is an either route deliberately to allow for variations in the number of Single/double deck vehicles available. Every garage has one
AG - 1
BC - 29
PB - 52
WN - 11/32/33
YW - 6
WB - 45
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:41:22 PM
29 hardly gets deckers now days, 69 is always priority it seems, @Tony  what are the chances of ZF ALXs to WA any time soon?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 07:51:41 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:41:22 PM
29 hardly gets deckers now days, 69 is always priority it seems, @Tony  what are the chances of ZF ALXs to WA any time soon?
Tony said the BC 29 not the WA 29
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 09, 2016, 07:54:45 PM
Quote from: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 07:51:41 PM
Tony said the BC 29 not the WA 29

And Tomf was talking WA 29 & 69 before Tony posted the list of which routes are allocated both singles & doubles as required
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 09, 2016, 08:01:36 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 07:41:22 PM
29 hardly gets deckers now days, 69 is always priority it seems, @Tony  what are the chances of ZF ALXs to WA any time soon?

What's wrong having deckers on WA 69?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:06:46 PM
Hello, have you not heard how WA had single deckers on X51 today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 08:08:17 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:06:46 PM
Hello, have you not heard how WA had single deckers on X51 today?
It was one single decker.
I'm sure the passengers would prefer a bus rather than no bus. It replaced a breackdown.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 09, 2016, 08:10:07 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:06:46 PM
Hello, have you not heard how WA had single deckers on X51 today?

No they didn't have single deckers (plural) on the X51.

One journey from Walsall to Birmingham in the evening peak, ie against the main passenger flow was a Scania. This has happened before and will happen again as that journey is not a platinum journey and is operated by a bus that has been on the 10. It is regularly operated by a Plaxton President

Nothing at all to get excited about despite Michael protestations
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:11:29 PM
Well Ive seen how busy the X51 is, hardly all passengers fit on a decker at Bull Street, so cant imagine how many people were left behind? So how is a single decker better than no bus, when half the people cant get on the single decker lol Those stored bendy buses would be good for the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:12:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2016, 08:10:07 PM
No they didn't have single deckers (plural) on the X51.

One journey from Walsall to Birmingham in the evening peak, ie against the main passenger flow was a Scania. This has happened before and will happen again as that journey is not a platinum journey and is operated by a bus that has been on the 10. It is regularly operated by a Plaxton President

Nothing at all to get excited about despite Michael protestations


@Tony  what trip is this, I would love to ride a President on the X51,  what board is it usually on and the Walsall dep time?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 09, 2016, 08:22:30 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:11:29 PM
Well Ive seen how busy the X51 is, hardly all passengers fit on a decker at Bull Street, so cant imagine how many people were left behind? So how is a single decker better than no bus, when half the people cant get on the single decker lol Those stored bendy buses would be good for the X51

How many more times Tom?

You are getting really annoying with this, not one journey on the X51 from Birmingham this evening was operated by a single deck.

That is zero, nil, no passengers left behind from Birmingham this evening because of a single deck, because no single decks left Birmingham on the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:24:37 PM
Fair enough, I didnt read the posts properly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 09, 2016, 08:28:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2016, 08:10:07 PM
No they didn't have single deckers (plural) on the X51.

One journey from Walsall to Birmingham in the evening peak, ie against the main passenger flow was a Scania. This has happened before and will happen again as that journey is not a platinum journey and is operated by a bus that has been on the 10. It is regularly operated by a Plaxton President

Nothing at all to get excited about despite Michael protestations

I done a 10 before on 1838 which went into the x51/x56! As Tony says it happens daily!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 09, 2016, 08:30:16 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:12:48 PM

@Tony  what trip is this, I would love to ride a President on the X51,  what board is it usually on and the Walsall dep time?
Walsall - Birmingham X51 - 16:55 - 17:32
Birmingham - Boney Hay X56 - 17:40 - 18:49
@Tomf1993
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on February 09, 2016, 08:53:04 PM
But still.if people were "left behind" it's a frequent enough service plus the 51 is an option too

I disagree about bendy buses for x51though, I could be wrong but think they have less capacity than a decker
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on February 09, 2016, 09:24:39 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on February 09, 2016, 08:53:04 PM
But still.if people were "left behind" it's a frequent enough service plus the 51 is an option too

I disagree about bendy buses for x51though, I could be wrong but think they have less capacity than a decker
I believe that was it. Less capacity than a decker; large space taken in garage; and wasn't fuel consumption another problem? I think they were just really inefficient to operate.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on February 09, 2016, 10:13:26 PM
I think there was various reasons and pretty sure if Nx thought they was ideal for further use elsewhere they would of gone off the reserve fleet sooner?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 10, 2016, 02:26:21 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:11:29 PM
Those stored bendy buses would be good for the X51

Yes, very good having to turn them short of the City Centre because they wouldn't be allowed in on a regular basis as they don't meet the SQPS rules.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 10, 2016, 03:44:20 PM
Then, what is the point of keeping 54 reg buses stored? buses kept doing nothing is not very good for the bus at all. you might aswell pass them on to Coverntry who can use them or sell them to Ensign Bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 10, 2016, 03:47:11 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 10, 2016, 03:44:20 PM
Then, what is the point of keeping 54 reg buses stored? buses kept doing nothing is not very good for the bus at all. you might aswell pass them on to Coverntry who can use them or sell them to Ensign Bus.

You might not have noticed but you can only sell things if people want to buy them. Dealers are not charities
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 10, 2016, 03:51:37 PM
Ensign take loads of buses, contact Ross Newman, a good friend of mine, might have them, although his is no keen on those ex London Merc Bendy Buses all over the UK in fields, note some since 2007 believe it or not.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 10, 2016, 03:54:29 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 10, 2016, 03:51:37 PM
Ensign take loads of buses, contact Ross Newman, a good friend of mine, might have them, although his is no keen on those ex London Merc Bendy Buses all over the UK in fields, note some since 2007 believe it or not.

You have a lot to learn yet Tom, You might not have noticed but NXWM know Mr Newman as well, he has just purchased 6 Spectras!

I hope 'Ben Grantly' isn't anyone you know
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 10, 2016, 03:56:15 PM
Ben Grantly? no idea @Tony Yes - seen the 6 Spectra, good to see these are still in good condition.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 10, 2016, 05:31:16 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 10, 2016, 03:44:20 PM
Then, what is the point of keeping 54 reg buses stored? buses kept doing nothing is not very good for the bus at all. you might aswell pass them on to Coverntry who can use them or sell them to Ensign Bus.

The Scania Bendi-buses were so unreliable at the end. Only 2 or 3 were in use regularly daily on the 67
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JoNi on February 10, 2016, 05:59:26 PM
Just been held up while travelling on express service while two of the Bendybuses Coventry has now passed each other!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/eg52k7
No thanks.....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 11, 2016, 05:05:43 PM
For those hunting for 4032, I'm currently at One Stop on it towards Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 11, 2016, 05:10:09 PM
I will be going on that later tonight, lets see what sort of thrash it gets on the 51 later tonight.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 11, 2016, 10:26:58 PM
Is 4032 still out on the 51 or it got swapped eventually?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 11, 2016, 10:37:08 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 11, 2016, 10:26:58 PM
Is 4032 still out on the 51 or it got swapped eventually?

it was still out when I did my last trip
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 12, 2016, 08:12:39 AM
Quote from: Nathan on February 11, 2016, 10:55:49 PM
@Tony 4032 will work the 01:02 51 from Birmingham. The 23:47 from City works the 00:25 from Walsall.

No @Nathan, it did the 23:47 like I said it would

It did the 20:37 which was the bus in front of @BU07 LGO who can confirm that. The 22:17 & the 23:47
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 12, 2016, 08:39:46 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 12, 2016, 08:12:39 AM
No @Nathan, it did the 23:47 like I said it would

It did the 20:37 which was the bus in front of @BU07 LGO who can confirm that. The 22:17 & the 23:47

I know it worked the 23:47. It is just that the timetable suggests it works the 00:25 off Walsall (So 01:02 offBrum also). It must be operated by another bus  My bad then. Apologies.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 12, 2016, 10:09:03 AM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 09, 2016, 08:11:29 PM
Well Ive seen how busy the X51 is, hardly all passengers fit on a decker at Bull Street, so cant imagine how many people were left behind? So how is a single decker better than no bus, when half the people cant get on the single decker lol Those stored bendy buses would be good for the X51

Tom, if you read my post, I said it was on the X56 aswell. The bus goes into Birmingham City Centre from Walsall as the X51 then does the 17:4* X56 from Birmingham City Centre to Boney Hay.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 12, 2016, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: Nathan on February 12, 2016, 08:39:46 AM
I know it worked the 23:47. It is just that the timetable suggests it works the 00:25 off Walsall (So 01:02 offBrum also). It must be operated by another bus  My bad then. Apologies.

It does
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 12, 2016, 11:44:36 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 12, 2016, 08:12:39 AM
No @Nathan, it did the 23:47 like I said it would

It did the 20:37 which was the bus in front of @BU07 LGO who can confirm that. The 22:17 & the 23:47

From my note book, as I remember this WA51/14 well as it does that school route as before xmas, they was a ALX/Gemeni Volvo DD on it and the times I wrote down were WA51/14
route 788 Bear Becaon School 1510 Arr Walsall 1528 dep Walsall 1547 route 51 arr Birm 1639 dep birm 1645 arr wal 1739 dep wal 1747 arr birm 1840 dep birm 1845 arr wal 1933 dep wal 1950 arr birm 2034 dep birm 2037 arr wal 2114 dep wal 2135 arr birm 2214 dep birm 2217 arr wal 2254 dep wal 2305 arr birm 2344 dep birm 2347 arr wal 0024 dep wal 0025 arr birm 0100 dep birm 0102 arr wal 0139 arr WA GAR about 0140

All from my observations of course and some input from the driver about the last 4 trips, some X51s do some school routes aswell, not sure which though. Was the Plaxton subbed for the bus in front then last night?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 12, 2016, 12:45:52 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 12, 2016, 11:44:36 AM

Was the Plaxton subbed for the bus in front then last night?

No, it operated what it should have done
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 12, 2016, 05:04:00 PM
Rta in Whitley Street Wednesbury.

313 & 310 on diversion!

Official diversion for 313 at least is via Hobs Road & Wood Green Road in & out of Wednesbury.

(My bus, due to where it was parked, had to emergency divert from Wednesbury via a couple of narrow streets, Park St & Hall End, after checking with control via radio)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 13, 2016, 01:20:43 PM
If anyone is looking for 4776, it's on 10 to Burntwood atm, departed Walsall Bus Station at 13:10.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 13, 2016, 01:35:50 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 13, 2016, 01:20:43 PM
If anyone is looking for 4776, it's on 10 to Burntwood atm, departed Walsall Bus Station at 13:10.

Will be looking for that on Tuesday please
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on February 15, 2016, 02:29:18 PM
4301 now has an LED front blind.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 16, 2016, 12:52:21 PM
Was there problems with some Walsall vehicles this morning, as me & sister came out for the 2nd Cannock X51.

A bus turned up practically straightaway & I thought ' That's early?'

Got to Walsall & sister noticed another X51 behind us coming out of Green Lane with one passenger on.

Suspect we were on the first Cannock bus that was running late.

I got round to Bradford Place & noticed a 313 in the stand, where it should have been a 311.( I know they interwork as the 709 311 from Walsall comes in as a 313!)

We left & the bus followed the 313 route, so I suspect the 659 313 was late !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 16, 2016, 01:30:20 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 16, 2016, 12:52:21 PM
Was there problems with some Walsall vehicles this morning, as me & sister came out for the 2nd Cannock X51.

A bus turned up practically straightaway & I thought ' That's early?'

Got to Walsall & sister noticed another X51 behind us coming out of Green Lane with one passenger on.

Suspect we were on the first Cannock bus that was running late.

I got round to Bradford Place & noticed a 313 in the stand, where it should have been a 311.( I know they interwork as the 709 311 from Walsall comes in as a 313!)

We left & the bus followed the 313 route, so I suspect the 659 313 was late !

The First X51 left Cannock Bus Station on time but lost 11 minutes due to some unscheduled roadworks in Bridgtown, because this driver informed the garage of the problem the second one was able to avoid them, hence your sighting. The 6:59 313 was 6 minutes late
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 16, 2016, 09:25:22 PM
Cheers Tony, but what is it about that 659 313 that comes straight from depot that makes it occasionally late?
I'd understand if the bus was late while it was already out but coming straight from depot?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 17, 2016, 07:58:22 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 16, 2016, 09:25:22 PM
Cheers Tony, but what is it about that 659 313 that comes straight from depot that makes it occasionally late?
I'd understand if the bus was late while it was already out but coming straight from depot?

Could be anything such as a defect been identified which needs repairing
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 900 on February 18, 2016, 12:07:53 PM
4860 parked up in wolves on stand U any idea why?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 18, 2016, 12:39:08 PM
Quote from: 900 on February 18, 2016, 12:07:53 PM
4860 parked up in wolves on stand U any idea why?

Mobility Scooter training by the looks of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 19, 2016, 12:37:30 PM
For those interested in 4734, it just departed Walsall on 997 at 12:36.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on February 19, 2016, 02:25:53 PM
Saw it, 4735 was on 51, 4065 301 and 4105 10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 21, 2016, 01:02:48 PM
I haven't said anything yet, but I was mugged just over a week ago on Thursday 11th February.
The incident happened on the 935 service towards Walsall at the bus stop on Kingstanding road by the pharmacy at around 16:25. I was sitting on the seat on the bottom deck as a young black male snatched my phone out of my hand and ran. I still haven't got a response back from the police yet. The driver did the best he could and stopped the service until I returned back after chasing after him. I have put this up here to see if anything extra can be done.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 21, 2016, 01:21:31 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 21, 2016, 01:02:48 PM
I haven't said anything yet, but I was mugged just over a week ago on Thursday 11th February.
The incident happened on the 935 service towards Walsall at the bus stop on Kingstanding road by the pharmacy at around 16:25. I was sitting on the seat on the bottom deck as a young black male snatched my phone out of my hand and ran. I still haven't got a response back from the police yet. The driver did the best he could and stopped the service until I returned back after chasing after him. I have put this up here to see if anything extra can be done.
Possibly contact Safer Travel and report it?
http://www.safertravel.info/gallery.asp?catID=5
http://www.safertravel.info/page/95/Incident-Reporting.htm
@The Fox 4846
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2016, 01:27:33 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 21, 2016, 01:02:48 PM
I haven't said anything yet, but I was mugged just over a week ago on Thursday 11th February.
The incident happened on the 935 service towards Walsall at the bus stop on Kingstanding road by the pharmacy at around 16:25. I was sitting on the seat on the bottom deck as a young black male snatched my phone out of my hand and ran. I still haven't got a response back from the police yet. The driver did the best he could and stopped the service until I returned back after chasing after him. I have put this up here to see if anything extra can be done.

That's awful, society we are living in is an absolute disgrace. I hope your ok
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JoNi on February 21, 2016, 01:30:38 PM
I contacted NX after being robbed on an 87 in Smethwick a few years ago but they confirmed the bus didn't have CCTV. I presume most buses have operational CCTV certainly a Platinum bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 21, 2016, 02:10:11 PM
Yeh, I'm fine just extremely hacked off.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: S570 on February 21, 2016, 02:10:43 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 21, 2016, 01:02:48 PM
I haven't said anything yet, but I was mugged just over a week ago on Thursday 11th February.
The incident happened on the 935 service towards Walsall at the bus stop on Kingstanding road by the pharmacy at around 16:25. I was sitting on the seat on the bottom deck as a young black male snatched my phone out of my hand and ran. I still haven't got a response back from the police yet. The driver did the best he could and stopped the service until I returned back after chasing after him. I have put this up here to see if anything extra can be done.

Do you have a copy of the phones IMEI number? Mobile network operators can track phones using the IMEI, so if you do you can at the very least get the phone blacklisted.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 21, 2016, 02:12:10 PM
Have done, contacted Apple. Unfortunately, it hasn't been online yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on February 21, 2016, 02:42:53 PM
IMEI doesn't do anything. You can change the phones IMEI number on the black market. I.e get a crap nokia for a tenner, and swap the IMEIs from the Nokia and the iPhone, and the Nokia is therefore blocked and the iPhone is fine. Or you can send it out of the EU.

On the other hand, I actually sell iPhones and iPads if you want to buy another one lol.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 21, 2016, 02:52:33 PM
How full was the bus, out of curiosity?

Must admit I don't bother getting the phone out, if it looks a dodgy area that I don't know & the bus isn't full of non dodgy passengers.

Normally, the pocket DAB goes on, on tedious journies!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: S570 on February 21, 2016, 02:54:27 PM
Quote from: MW on February 21, 2016, 02:42:53 PM
IMEI doesn't do anything. You can change the phones IMEI number on the black market. I.e get a crap nokia for a tenner, and swap the IMEIs from the Nokia and the iPhone, and the Nokia is therefore blocked and the iPhone is fine. Or you can send it out of the EU.

On the other hand, I actually sell iPhones and iPads if you want to buy another one lol.

True, but its still worth getting it blocked. You don't know how 'clever' the thief is.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 21, 2016, 05:33:21 PM
Just before I got off the bus I saw 6740 overtake and going towards Birmingham. When I got on the bus only 1 person was on it, suggesting that it had started at wellhead lane. I got on the stop after wellhead lane.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 21, 2016, 06:18:17 PM
Why is Walsall town so dead on a Sunday, hardly any buses or anything..
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 21, 2016, 06:35:18 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 21, 2016, 06:18:17 PM
Why is Walsall town so dead on a Sunday, hardly any buses or anything..

(https://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on February 21, 2016, 06:36:45 PM
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 21, 2016, 06:18:17 PM
Why is Walsall town so dead on a Sunday, hardly any buses or anything..

Up here in the grim north, Sunday is still considered a day of rest to alot of people.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 21, 2016, 07:53:50 PM
It hasn't been too bad when I've gone down.

There's a fair few people on a Sunday night in the pubs, on the odd occasion I've been down as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on February 23, 2016, 03:36:29 PM
i saw several buses sunday when I camwe back from wolves on 529, I had 1757 home on the 301 and couldn't help but notice that somebody had pinched the shatter proof hammer leaving the glass and the rubber seal on the back seat!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 23, 2016, 04:01:42 PM
Any idea where 4073 was going? I saw it on the A34 overpass heading into Birmingham around 3.40pm Not In Service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on February 23, 2016, 04:07:56 PM
Quote from: John on February 23, 2016, 04:01:42 PM
Any idea where 4073 was going? I saw it on the A34 overpass heading into Birmingham around 3.40pm Not In Service

886 school service maybe?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tomf1993 on February 23, 2016, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on February 23, 2016, 03:36:29 PM
i saw several buses sunday when I camwe back from wolves on 529, I had 1757 home on the 301 and couldn't help but notice that somebody had pinched the shatter proof hammer leaving the glass and the rubber seal on the back seat!!

I was on the 89 couple weeks ago, kids at the back decided to take off all the seat cushions at the back and remove the plastic hand on the seats. same bunch of kids were on the 29 on sunday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 24, 2016, 12:15:30 AM
Quote from: John on February 23, 2016, 04:01:42 PM
Any idea where 4073 was going? I saw it on the A34 overpass heading into Birmingham around 3.40pm Not In Service

It was going to a school in Edgbaston to operate the 886 school service to Walsall. It passed me in Perry Barr around 16:40.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 27, 2016, 08:08:08 AM
Not posting this in 'Noteworthy Workings' as it has become very common. But 6755 is on the 77 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 27, 2016, 09:41:14 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 27, 2016, 08:08:08 AM
Not posting this in 'Noteworthy Workings' as it has become very common. But 6755 is on the 77 today.

They are booked on there on Saturdays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on March 06, 2016, 09:35:37 AM
Can anyone tell me what's happening with 4076? The last I heard it was at bc. Has it returned to walsall and is it now in service regularly? I've seen the others at walsall fairly often but not 4076. Any info would be much appreciated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on March 06, 2016, 11:05:49 AM
I didn't think 4076 had been to Walsall?

Thought it was 4024,4033,4068,4072,4073,4105? Could be wrong
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 06, 2016, 11:06:18 AM
Quote from: WMT3000 on March 06, 2016, 09:35:37 AM
Can anyone tell me what's happening with 4076? The last I heard it was at bc. Has it returned to walsall and is it now in service regularly? I've seen the others at walsall fairly often but not 4076. Any info would be much appreciated.

I haven't seen it at wa
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on March 06, 2016, 11:09:44 AM
4105 is the last I need to have a ride on lol, always about when I don't have a daysaver lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 06, 2016, 11:19:44 AM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on March 06, 2016, 11:05:49 AM
I didn't think 4076 had been to Walsall?

Thought it was 4024,4033,4068,4072,4073,4105? Could be wrong

Why not just check the fleetlist?

They have 11 at Walsall, 4076 so far has done the 159 school bus once. It is currently being MoT'd
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 06, 2016, 11:19:56 AM
Quote from: WMT3000 on March 06, 2016, 09:35:37 AM
Can anyone tell me what's happening with 4076? The last I heard it was at bc. Has it returned to walsall and is it now in service regularly? I've seen the others at walsall fairly often but not 4076. Any info would be much appreciated.

That's a good question! I haven't seen 4076 at Walsall. 4076 only did 159 in the morning on 11th December 2015, then went to BC to receive repairs for the MoT - that was on 11th January 2016.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on March 06, 2016, 11:30:12 AM
Thanks for the info re: 4076 chaps. Hopefully it will make an appearance soon!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on March 06, 2016, 08:33:54 PM
Quote from: Nathan on March 06, 2016, 03:31:29 PM
4870 on WA89. Seen on Wednesfield Rd in Heath Town at 15:21. Very rare. Usually single deckers (B7RLE's/Omnilinks on Sundays)

Probably a change bus, travelled full length of 89 on the 11:05 ex Walsall today on an Eclipse and passed the other one in Bloxwich which was also an Eclipse
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 06, 2016, 08:59:16 PM
Quote from: Kevin on March 06, 2016, 08:33:54 PM
Probably a change bus, travelled full length of 89 on the 11:05 ex Walsall today on an Eclipse and passed the other one in Bloxwich which was also an Eclipse

@Kevin it replaced 1768 which was originally allocated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 06, 2016, 09:49:55 PM
4307 was changed for 1881 much to my disappointment (10s and 6's late night board)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 07, 2016, 07:47:14 AM
Ive seen a Walsall Omnilink and a Walsall B7 this morning in Roseville. Anyone know why?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on March 07, 2016, 08:56:15 PM
I'm not sure but it could be rail replacement would explain 4201 loaned and
3 deckers on 301 today 4027 4073 4260
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 08, 2016, 07:41:40 PM
Congratulations to the driver of the 719 313 from Walsall this morning, deciding to come on stand 10 mins early, preventing the 709 311 picking up properly & not telling his own passengers that an earlier bus was due to go out!  >:(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 08, 2016, 08:04:40 PM
Walsall wasted no time in using 4031, it was out on an afternoon board on the 77 today7
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on March 08, 2016, 09:28:15 PM
I bet it appears after I left Walsall.. Just my luck that is lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 09, 2016, 10:08:41 AM
New arrival 4031 is on the 70 today if anyone wants to find it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 900 on March 09, 2016, 01:59:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 09, 2016, 10:08:41 AM
New arrival 4031 is on the 70 today if anyone wants to find it
Has it now being swapped cause all the 70s seem to be E200
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 09, 2016, 02:03:12 PM
Quote from: 900 on March 09, 2016, 01:59:17 PM
Has it now being swapped cause all the 70s seem to be E200

Yes, went back into garage at 11:50
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on March 09, 2016, 05:48:25 PM
Platinum 6745 is this evening's X56. Was it on the 10 today or the usual B7TL swapped?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on March 13, 2016, 04:18:04 PM
Does any one know why Walsall platinum buses have different colour stop buttons to bc platinum and normal
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on March 13, 2016, 07:56:45 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on March 13, 2016, 04:18:04 PM
Does any one know why Walsall platinum buses have different colour stop buttons to bc platinum and normal

Possibly because they were built at Falkirk compared to Scarborough? Or spec was quickly changed after the first 18 entered service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 13, 2016, 08:16:35 PM
Any plans for the Walsall to Dudley routes to be rebranded?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on March 15, 2016, 10:48:14 AM
What happened to 4035 it's parked at Walsall opposite Walsall council offices with do not start do not move sticker in front window & yellow cover over steering wheel
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 15, 2016, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on March 15, 2016, 10:48:14 AM
What happened to 4035 it's parked at Walsall opposite Walsall council offices with do not start do not move sticker in front window & yellow cover over steering wheel

They have to use the sticker and steering wheel cover for nearly every defect now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 16, 2016, 11:24:12 AM
Anyone spotted the leaflet in Walsall BS or the link online re proposed changes to services?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 16, 2016, 11:36:46 AM
Quote from: Westy on March 16, 2016, 11:24:12 AM
Anyone spotted the leaflet in Walsall BS or the link online re proposed changes to services?

Link to document here:
http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NXWestMids/misc/NXWMWalsallServiceChangesprintready1.pdf
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 16, 2016, 11:47:37 AM
Cheers Winston. Bit of a problem with calling the 89 the 9.... Arriva operate a 9 in Wolverhampton already (Wolverhampton-Bridgenorth-Telford)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 16, 2016, 04:54:01 PM
Has 4063 officially transferred to Walsall? Didn't see any mention of it. I saw it on 77 earlier at Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 16, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on March 16, 2016, 04:54:01 PM
Has 4063 officially transferred to Walsall? Didn't see any mention of it. I saw it on 77 earlier at Walsall.

Yes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on March 16, 2016, 06:56:31 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 16, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
Yes.
When did it transfer?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 16, 2016, 07:32:35 PM
Quote from: 2206 on March 16, 2016, 06:56:31 PM
When did it transfer?

Last day or so
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on March 16, 2016, 07:42:35 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 16, 2016, 07:32:35 PM
Last day or so
Only one I can find mentioned on here is 4031 which transferred from AG to WA a couple of days ago.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 16, 2016, 07:44:16 PM
Quote from: 2206 on March 16, 2016, 07:42:35 PM
Only one I can find is 4031 which transferred from AG to WA a couple of days ago.

That is because it hasn't been posted by Tony as his out & about. It is a recent transfer!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on March 16, 2016, 07:49:21 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 16, 2016, 07:44:16 PM
That is because it hasn't been posted by Tony as his out & about. It is a recent transfer!
Ok thanks for the information.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 16, 2016, 10:37:28 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 16, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
Yes.

Thanks Winston. :) Did suspect it was a transfer, just needed confirmation. By the way, 2206, Winston wouldn't have confirmed 4063 as a transfer, if he didn't know it wasn't.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 18, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
@NXWM Spectra the E200 on that late night board is booked as Enviro 200.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on March 18, 2016, 11:36:06 PM
I have had an alx 400 b7 on 89 at night before last month some time never see an e200
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 18, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 18, 2016, 11:36:06 PM
I have had an alx 400 b7 on 89 at night before last month some time never see an e200

Its a recent thing put in place. The board states that a decker has to swap to an E200 (if avaliable) on the late night. If not avaliable, B7RLE's or Omnilinks. The 41 board (41/01) that goes onto late night 89's is usually a Single Decker too (Omnilink/B7RLE).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: notepanel on March 19, 2016, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: Nathan on March 18, 2016, 11:38:38 PM
Its a recent thing put in place. The board states that a decker has to swap to an E200 (if avaliable) on the late night. If not avaliable, B7RLE's or Omnilinks. The 41 board (41/01) that goes onto late night 89's is usually a Single Decker too (Omnilink/B7RLE).

It actually was on the 41 board. The E200 was taken off the 301 and swapped around 1630, presumably due to an issue with/on the B7RLE on the board originally.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 19, 2016, 06:14:05 PM
All three 77's were none platinum, 4869, 4870 and an ALX (not sure whether it was trident or B7)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on March 25, 2016, 02:58:07 PM
What are the Staffordshire end changes to the X51 from April?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Cheese on March 25, 2016, 03:51:55 PM
Quote from: Bob on March 25, 2016, 02:58:07 PM
What are the Staffordshire end changes to the X51 from April?

None.  The 51/X51 on the same reg, changes to the 51 only I believe.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on March 25, 2016, 04:15:25 PM
Oh. It's listed on the Staffordshire County council website under Cannock area service changes along with 154
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jaysnerz007 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:47 PM
Does anyone know in tonys pic of 1452 there is a metrobus next to it 2685 are they keeping it or has someone brought it ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 26, 2016, 12:27:56 AM
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on March 25, 2016, 11:05:47 PM
Does anyone know in tonys pic of 1452 there is a metrobus next to it 2685 are they keeping it or has someone brought it ?

It's just stored at WA garage, has been for a couple of years
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jaysnerz007 on March 26, 2016, 04:23:57 AM
I thought it would have gone for scrap like most of the others ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 26, 2016, 09:55:24 AM
Quote from: Jaysnerz007 on March 26, 2016, 04:23:57 AM
I thought it would have gone for scrap like most of the others ?

It's stored for preservation
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on March 26, 2016, 01:36:37 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 26, 2016, 09:55:24 AM
It's stored for preservation

Not budged since early 2009.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on March 30, 2016, 07:27:43 PM
Saw 4776 on the X51 today.  Out of interest, does 4776 still have high-back leather seats?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on March 30, 2016, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: clayderman on March 30, 2016, 07:27:43 PM
Saw 4776 on the X51 today.  Out of interest, does 4776 still have high-back leather seats?
No.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on March 30, 2016, 07:41:35 PM
Quote from: clayderman on March 30, 2016, 07:27:43 PM
Saw 4776 on the X51 today.  Out of interest, does 4776 still have high-back leather seats?

No, refurbished with the grey dot NX moquette
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 30, 2016, 08:04:10 PM
Quote from: John on March 30, 2016, 07:41:35 PM
No, refurbished with the grey dot NX moquette

Same as high backed omnilinks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 30, 2016, 08:09:20 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 30, 2016, 08:04:10 PM
Same as high backed omnilinks?

Yeah the same :

https://flic.kr/p/uE9nyb
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on March 30, 2016, 09:07:01 PM
I thought they all went to coventry
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 30, 2016, 09:07:34 PM
4776 stayed as the college bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on March 30, 2016, 10:02:24 PM
Quote from: John on March 30, 2016, 07:41:35 PM
No, refurbished with the grey dot NX moquette
Thanks - had only crossed my mind today; I could still see the high-back seat layout through the front window, but couldn't make out if it was either moquette, or leather.

Quote from: BU07 LGO on March 30, 2016, 09:07:34 PM
4776 stayed as the college bus
4776 is fitted with a tachograph, right?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on March 30, 2016, 10:23:26 PM
Quote from: clayderman on March 30, 2016, 10:02:24 PM
Thanks - had only crossed my mind today; I could still see the high-back seat layout through the front window, but couldn't make out if it was either moquette, or leather.
4776 is fitted with a tachograph, right?

Yeah that's right and 4737 has one! I put a pic of the seats on last page if your interested
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on March 30, 2016, 10:38:28 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on March 30, 2016, 10:23:26 PM
Yeah that's right and 4737 has one! I put a pic of the seats on last page if your interested
I saw it; thanks for that, by the way. :) Looks a bit odd, in my opinion - I guess i'm just used to NX's normal 'Lazzerini Practico 3845' choice for seats. :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 02, 2016, 11:11:17 PM
I saw the 41xx Walsall Tridents today and I realised where's 4132? I haven't seen 4132 for a long time. Is there anything wrong with 4132? ???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on April 02, 2016, 11:39:04 PM
Wasn't 4132 Wolverhampton?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 02, 2016, 11:54:46 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on April 02, 2016, 11:39:04 PM
Wasn't 4132 Wolverhampton?

According to Tony's fleetlist, 4132 was transferred to Wolverhampton on 11/14, and then transferred back to Walsall on 1/15.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 06, 2016, 03:53:36 PM
Crimson 1750 is out on 301 today if anyone is interested. It looks fantastic in person.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 06, 2016, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 06, 2016, 03:53:36 PM
Crimson 1750 is out on 301 today if anyone is interested. It looks fantastic in person.

I've noticed it still retains it's old 301/302 branding.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 06, 2016, 10:40:12 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 06, 2016, 03:56:56 PM
I've noticed it still retains it's old 301/302 branding.

Did 1750 come out of service before 1730, as I thought I would've seen it on the Bloxwich Road/Lower Bloxwich High St  at some point?

(Even went to the Pinfold Chippy & I normally see a few buses while I'm waiting!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 06, 2016, 10:48:03 PM
Is there plans for the Walsall to Dudley route to regain branding, as it used to have branding years ago?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on April 07, 2016, 08:22:43 AM
Slightly Rare president 4072 on rt6 dep 8:25 Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 07, 2016, 08:24:49 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on April 07, 2016, 08:22:43 AM
Slightly Rare president 4072 on rt6 dep 8:25 Walsall

It was on there the other day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 07, 2016, 08:50:51 AM
It's not rare to have Presidents on the 6. I see them on that route several times.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 07, 2016, 02:15:02 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 07, 2016, 08:50:51 AM
It's not rare to have Presidents on the 6. I see them on that route several times.
Yeah its not rare its not the only one on the 6 today, 4068 is also on the 6 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
What's the story behind 4260s interior? Downstairs is refurbed in original style moquette but upstairs is threadbare and badly etched?!

https://flic.kr/p/G7mzU3
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on April 11, 2016, 08:39:10 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 10, 2016, 07:15:01 PM
What's the story behind 4260s interior? Downstairs is refurbed in original style moquette but upstairs is threadbare and badly etched?!

https://flic.kr/p/G7mzU3

4260 was a very early repaint dating back to 2009 while at BC.Repainted but not refurbished.
4260 was done while at Walsall alongside 4308 4332 4304 which also as new old style seating.

4260 4304 4128 could do with a repaint.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 11, 2016, 04:58:12 PM
Quote from: B10L1473 on April 11, 2016, 08:39:10 AM
4260 was a very early repaint dating back to 2009 while at BC.Repainted but not refurbished.
4260 was done while at Walsall alongside 4308 4332 4304 which also as new old style seating.

4260 4304 4128 could do with a repaint.

Thanks, it's strange how the upstairs looks untouched though but downstairs is quite respectable
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 11, 2016, 06:08:35 PM
Did the evening X56 run from Birmingham today? As I got the 16:50 X51 into Birmingham and whilst waiting for the 937 I didn't see it pull in. Is it running late?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 11, 2016, 06:21:00 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 11, 2016, 06:08:35 PM
Did the evening X56 run from Birmingham today? As I got the 16:50 X51 into Birmingham and whilst waiting for the 937 I didn't see it pull in. Is it running late?

It should have been 4299, but that is stuck in Brownhills due to the overturned lorry and is running 1h40 late.

But you don't expect NX to completely abandon a route & passengers do you? 4328 has been nicked off another board, but due to all the chaos is still running 30 min late on the X56
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 11, 2016, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 11, 2016, 06:21:00 PM
It should have been 4299, but that is stuck in Brownhills due to the overturned lorry and is running 1h40 late.

But you don't expect NX to completely abandon a route & passengers do you? 4328 has been nicked off another board, but due to all the chaos is still running 30 min late on the X56

Saw it pass me earlier 'Not In Service' after I posted. I thought it was weird I didn't see it as it's once a day and if it doesn't run, people are stranded. Good to hear they got home anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 11, 2016, 08:34:17 PM
Was just going to say I did see a Trident on the x56
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on April 11, 2016, 08:57:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 11, 2016, 06:21:00 PM
It should have been 4299, but that is stuck in Brownhills due to the overturned lorry and is running 1h40 late.

But you don't expect NX to completely abandon a route & passengers do you? 4328 has been nicked off another board, but due to all the chaos is still running 30 min late on the X56

Can I ask, how does work i.e taking a bus off 1 board onto another, doesn't it deprive that route of a bus, if that route gets a replacement (Which is what I'm thinking) why not use that bus to begin with ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 11, 2016, 09:07:55 PM
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on April 11, 2016, 08:57:31 PM
Can I ask, how does work i.e taking a bus off 1 board onto another, doesn't it deprive that route of a bus, if that route gets a replacement (Which is what I'm thinking) why not use that bus to begin with ?

its usually off a route like the 301 where a missing bus wont cause so much issues as its frequent
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 11, 2016, 09:16:53 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 11, 2016, 09:07:55 PM
its usually off a route like the 301 where a missing bus wont cause so much issues as its frequent

4328 was used on its way back to garage anyway, so no loss
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 14, 2016, 10:21:56 AM
Recently repainted 4105 should put an appearance in Birmingham City Centre this evening, it is currently on running board 10-07 which does the 16:50 Walsall-Birmingham X51 and then the evening X56
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 14, 2016, 11:26:07 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 11, 2016, 09:07:55 PM
its usually off a route like the 301 where a missing bus wont cause so much issues as its frequent

Just as long as they dont nick it off the 302, as the Lower Farm lot will moan!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on April 14, 2016, 06:54:47 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 14, 2016, 06:48:06 PM
Where can I phone for lost property on bus?

The garage that operates the bus you lost your property on.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 14, 2016, 07:09:10 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 14, 2016, 06:56:34 PM
The opening hours are out.
9:30-3:30

Then you wait until they're open?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 16, 2016, 08:53:01 AM
@Michael Bevan Niether of those are even remotely rare.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on April 19, 2016, 08:09:25 PM
First time 1750 in crimson has been on another route other than 301/2  just started rt89 dep walsall 20:05 & 22:05 dep Wolverhampton 21:05 & 23:05
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 19, 2016, 09:19:26 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on April 19, 2016, 08:09:25 PM
First time 1750 in crimson has been on another route other than 301/2  just started rt89 dep walsall 20:05 & 22:05 dep Wolverhampton 21:05 & 23:05

Is that the first sighting of a crimson vehicle in Wolves?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 19, 2016, 09:25:43 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 19, 2016, 09:19:26 PM
Is that the first sighting of a crimson vehicle in Wolves?

In service yes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 19, 2016, 09:28:17 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 19, 2016, 09:25:43 PM
In service yes.

Unless you count the Crimson's that were on the recent Rail Replacement.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 19, 2016, 11:39:33 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on April 19, 2016, 08:09:25 PM
First time 1750 in crimson has been on another route other than 301/2  just started rt89 dep walsall 20:05 & 22:05 dep Wolverhampton 21:05 & 23:05

Thanks @Wright liberator, I caught 1750 at the 22:05 departure ex Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on April 21, 2016, 06:46:31 PM
I know it was only a rumour, but any truth behind the X51 getting a frequency increase? Because it needs it quite badly at peak times, 18:25 ex city journey hardly ever stops at the Children's Hospital stop because it's over crowded, and that isn't even the busiest time. Morning services regularly miss out Tower Hill and Perry Avenue. And if there's ever problems on the trains from Walsall then naturally everyone piles onto the X51, leading to reports of an all out non stop journey because it's full and standing from the bus station.
Meanwhile the Kingstanding buses and the 997 go past half full...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on April 21, 2016, 08:13:24 PM
Quote from: Kevin on April 21, 2016, 06:46:31 PM
I know it was only a rumour, but any truth behind the X51 getting a frequency increase? Because it needs it quite badly at peak times, 18:25 ex city journey hardly ever stops at the Children's Hospital stop because it's over crowded, and that isn't even the busiest time. Morning services regularly miss out Tower Hill and Perry Avenue. And if there's ever problems on the trains from Walsall then naturally everyone piles onto the X51, leading to reports of an all out non stop journey because it's full and standing from the bus station.
Meanwhile the Kingstanding buses and the 997 go past half full...

Was this not mentioned in the "Proposed Service Changes" thread were their proposed changes were forwarded to NX for review ? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 21, 2016, 08:31:32 PM
I found a quote in the "New Platinum services?" thread.

Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 26, 2015, 05:21:07 PM
There's rumours that WA are getting 4 more platinums with the x51 been upped to every 7 mins

Don't know whether that will actually happen or not.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 21, 2016, 09:20:48 PM
That's what I heard and apparently that's why Walsall are getting another 5 platinums?

In other WA news I've been told they've started fitting microphones in the cabs of the scania omnilinks so wouldn't be surprised if it happens at other garages too :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 21, 2016, 09:26:13 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 21, 2016, 09:20:48 PM
That's what I heard and apparently that's why Walsall are getting another 5 platinums?

In other WA news I've been told they've started fitting microphones in the cabs of the scania omnilinks so wouldn't be surprised if it happens at other garages too :(
Is the 937 being extended to replace the X56?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 21, 2016, 09:28:32 PM
Quote from: 2206 on April 21, 2016, 09:26:13 PM
Is the 937 being extended to replace the X56?

Just a few peak journeys I think, it's part of the consultation where passengers can give their opinion on which route it will take (via rising sun and hednesford road or via 10 route from tinman island)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 21, 2016, 09:38:20 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 21, 2016, 09:20:48 PM
In other WA news I've been told they've started fitting microphones in the cabs of the scania omnilinks so wouldn't be surprised if it happens at other garages too :(

No way... :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 21, 2016, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 21, 2016, 09:38:20 PM
No way... :(

1843 is one that's been done apparently
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 21, 2016, 10:08:19 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 21, 2016, 09:42:19 PM
1843 is one that's been done apparently

I take it that the other types of buses (Enviros, Volvos etc) will have them fitted too?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 21, 2016, 10:09:41 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on April 21, 2016, 10:08:19 PM
I take it that the other types of buses (Enviros, Volvos etc) will have them fitted too?

It would seem logical. Sadly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on April 21, 2016, 10:36:56 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 21, 2016, 09:20:48 PM

In other WA news I've been told they've started fitting microphones in the cabs of the scania omnilinks so wouldn't be surprised if it happens at other garages too :(
Well, well, well. Dudley Road, anyone? ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 24, 2016, 11:53:54 AM
Engineer told me every bus will be getting microphones in the cab, can you confirm @Tony ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 27, 2016, 06:08:53 PM
Another Crimson bus out for the first time tonight is 1752 on the 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on April 27, 2016, 07:01:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 27, 2016, 06:08:53 PM
Another Crimson bus out for the first time tonight is 1752 on the 302

Looks good as well, by chance followed it out of Bloxwich on my way home this evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 07, 2016, 11:27:28 AM
Just saw D959 NDA in Bloxwich 😀
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on May 09, 2016, 08:59:35 AM
First day out in crimson 1763 on rt29 left Walsall 8:52 for blakenhall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on May 11, 2016, 09:28:19 AM
4733 on rt937 today left brownhills west 9:22 for Birmingham
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 11, 2016, 01:01:35 PM
Managed to see all 3 crimson singles in the space of a minute in Walsall around 7am this morning, including the one already mentioned on the 29!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on May 12, 2016, 05:01:08 PM
1763 has just left dudley on a 311 to Walsall if of interest to anyone.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 12, 2016, 05:33:25 PM
Quote from: Dom on May 12, 2016, 05:01:08 PM
1763 has just left dudley on a 311 to Walsall if of interest to anyone.

Would have been too early for me anyway(Had a lift to Portabello for the 529!).

Dont suppose it was the friendly black lady driver was it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on May 12, 2016, 05:50:56 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 12, 2016, 05:33:25 PM
Would have been too early for me anyway(Had a lift to Portabello for the 529!).

Dont suppose it was the friendly black lady driver was it?

Im just annoyed as my picture didnt come out with the destination visible.

Nope mate, white male.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on May 18, 2016, 05:59:23 PM
Think 4033 needs a very very good clean. I caught it this afternoon and what a disgrace.  The smell of damp and mould was over powering. The entrance area was filthy.  Having said all that was quick and smooth. Just tidy it up...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 18, 2016, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: andyr on May 18, 2016, 05:59:23 PM
Think 4033 needs a very very good clean. I caught it this afternoon and what a disgrace.  The smell of damp and mould was over powering. The entrance area was filthy.  Having said all that was quick and smooth. Just tidy it up...

What time? I had it from 1405 till the end?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on May 18, 2016, 07:21:46 PM
You drove the bus... very smooth. But how could that beven in service in that condition  ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 18, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
It drove quite nice but I did notice a banging noise and lots of creaking round the front!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 18, 2016, 07:34:51 PM
https://flic.kr/p/Hh3FMc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on May 21, 2016, 02:44:23 PM
Crimson B7RLE (think its 1750) has not long left Wolverhampton on the 39.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 21, 2016, 02:53:01 PM
Quote from: Nathan on May 21, 2016, 02:44:23 PM
Crimson B7RLE (think its 1750) has not long left Wolverhampton on the 39.

Yes it is 1750, replaced 1847, possible the first time a Crimson bus has been in service in Wolverhampton Bus Station
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on May 21, 2016, 03:17:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2016, 02:53:01 PM
Yes it is 1750, replaced 1847, possible the first time a Crimson bus has been in service in Wolverhampton Bus Station

Nope 1750 was on the 89 last month.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 21, 2016, 03:39:47 PM
@Tony Did 1762 (i think?) get took off service last night off the Dudley at Walsall around 1730, as someone threw a stone when it went through Myvod, causing a crack in the window, according to another passenger?

The black lady driver (no names but I'm sure you know who I mean!) was driving!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 24, 2016, 09:11:56 PM
4869 is on the X51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 25, 2016, 07:10:47 AM
1763 on 311/313 this morning, assuming we are counting repaints as unusual ?

(Also a Diamond Streetlite on their 4, as sister has caught it!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on May 26, 2016, 03:00:48 PM
The streetlights are intended for the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 26, 2016, 05:28:17 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on May 26, 2016, 03:00:48 PM
The streetlights are intended for the 4

Apparantly he had a problem with his ticket machine, so my sister said.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 27, 2016, 02:37:21 PM
Just been told all of the school boards this afternoon have been allocated Platinum's and also 4297 has been put on a 311 board. Can anyone confirm?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2016, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 27, 2016, 02:37:21 PM
Just been told all of the school boards this afternoon have been allocated Platinum's and also 4297 has been put on a 311 board. Can anyone confirm?

4297 was sent out onto running board 41-01 to release a single deck for the 311
A lot of Walsall's schools are on Platinum boards anyway, and any spare platinums if all 40 are available which they are today, are normally allocated to school boards the same as BC's 18th does the 29S
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 31, 2016, 05:50:25 PM
Three buses out for the first time this afternoon

repainted 1751 out on the 301
returnee 4125 on the 302
returnee 4126 obviously like Birmingham as it is on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 31, 2016, 06:35:38 PM
4024 was on the X51 and X56 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on June 01, 2016, 07:52:36 PM
4869 is on the 997/X51 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on June 02, 2016, 03:40:59 PM
4326 is on the 336 today
1891 is on the 40 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 02, 2016, 03:48:58 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on June 02, 2016, 03:40:59 PM
4326 is on the 336 today
1891 is on the 40 today

Both completely normal
40-01 is normally a Scania and the 336 is always a decker
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on June 02, 2016, 03:53:57 PM
Ok wasn't sure so I just looked at the spreadsheet but it said they were noteworthy, it obviously needs changing then.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 10, 2016, 01:29:43 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 10, 2016, 11:57:59 AM
860 on WA39. Seen in Wolverhampton Bus Station at 11:15.

I think it's been swapped as a Scania passed me earlier in Walsall heading towards Bradford Place and 860 passed me later on in St. Paul's Bus Station. I didn't see where it went after but I assume it was heading back to Walsall Garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 10, 2016, 04:28:07 PM
Quote from: Dom on June 10, 2016, 04:20:54 PM
858 | WA301 | Vice B7RLE

@Dom happen's daily and I think some boards are allocated Enviro 200's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on June 10, 2016, 04:47:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 03, 2015, 06:36:39 PM
@Westy asked about 860 on 301 last year and Tony responded accordly

There's one on there all day nearly every day now a Decker does the 336
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 10, 2016, 04:49:26 PM
I apologise,  wasn't aware of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 14, 2016, 08:20:25 AM
@Michael Bevan 34 doesn't interwork with the 34A.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 14, 2016, 08:23:17 AM
Quote from: Dom on June 14, 2016, 08:20:25 AM
@Michael Bevan 34 doesn't interwork with the 34A. It interworks with the 38.

34/38 no longer interwork together.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 14, 2016, 08:24:04 AM
Quote from: Dom on June 14, 2016, 08:20:25 AM
@Michael Bevan 34 doesn't interwork with the 34A. It interworks with the 38.

Well the driver came in with "34A Walsall" displayed and left with "34 Stowlawn" displayed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2016, 08:25:43 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 14, 2016, 08:23:17 AM
34/38 no longer interwork together.

There still is some interworking
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 14, 2016, 08:29:35 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 14, 2016, 08:25:43 AM
There still is some interworking

Yeah, I'm aware of that, 34/38 interworking takes place later in the late afternoon, not all day like before. :) 34/10 and 34/13 now iirc?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 14, 2016, 12:59:40 PM
Anyone interested, the 709 311 from Walsall is part of duty 311/02 !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on June 14, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Are the Crimson pained B7s being given a sweep and mop each day to keep them nice or just the usual sweep ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on June 14, 2016, 02:17:07 PM
Quote from: andyr on June 14, 2016, 02:03:57 PM
Are the Crimson pained B7s being given a sweep and mop each day to keep them nice or just the usual sweep ?

They're cleaned daily when they're back in the garage, but they aren't treated any different to other buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on June 14, 2016, 02:38:30 PM
So just swept.  Not long till there interrors are filthy.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 14, 2016, 02:40:01 PM
My friend and I noticed Crimson B7RLEs' ceilings are dirty and there are couple of old seat backs and faded red seat handles.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 16, 2016, 03:39:01 PM
@Other Walsall Tony A trident on the 89 is not rare, plus this has already been mentioned in the 'Buses On Loan' thread.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Demonstrator4698 on June 17, 2016, 01:18:05 PM
Question: What happened to 4776 being in service ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on June 17, 2016, 08:04:13 PM
?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: lauren1993 on June 23, 2016, 03:39:44 AM
Is 4776 going to be transferred to Coventry and painted into the new livery to join the rest of its batch seeing as there seems to be a shortage of E400s to cover the 11/11U & 12X.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 23, 2016, 07:17:35 AM
Quote from: lauren1993 on June 23, 2016, 03:39:44 AM
Is 4776 going to be transferred to Coventry and painted into the new livery to join the rest of its batch seeing as there seems to be a shortage of E400s to cover the 11/11U & 12X.

No, it is staying at Walsall for the college route iirc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on June 23, 2016, 10:54:24 AM
Isn't 4776 1 with a tachograph in?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on June 23, 2016, 10:59:37 AM
Simply search 4776 answers why it's stays at walsall...

quote author=busfan2847 link=topic=3636.msg147991#msg147991 date=1433876109]
Tony had recently provided a list of tacho fitted buses.

"AG 2201/2 & 2120 have tachographs
BC have 6701/2; 4634 & a B7RLE
PB have 4777-81 & 1847 (not sure if 1844-6 have current tachos)
YW have 6147/8 & 3225
WA have 4127/8 & 4737; 4776
WN have 862; 863 & a trident
Two of the 47xx E400s transferred to WB have tachos, but they are not currently calibrated, so cannot be used at the moment
CV have two tridents, but they are not currently calibrated"

so no it is not all Platinum vehicles
[/quote]
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on June 27, 2016, 07:57:40 AM
I've just been told by a close friend that the 77 could be transferring to Perry Barr somepoint next month is there any truth in this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 27, 2016, 08:07:12 AM
Quote from: Nxwm on June 27, 2016, 07:57:40 AM
I've just been told by a close friend that the 77 could be transferring to Perry Barr somepoint next month is there any truth in this?

I've heard this rumor from people at Perry Barr and Walsall too. Apparently it's happening on the 24th of July but I don't know how true it is.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on June 27, 2016, 04:20:24 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 27, 2016, 08:07:12 AM
I've heard this rumor from people at Perry Barr and Walsall too. Apparently it's happening on the 24th of July but I don't know how true it is.
Maybe @Tony  could clarify this for us?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 27, 2016, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 27, 2016, 05:35:16 PM
Walsall's PVR actually increases on that date, I have to find them some more extra buss

Sure PN will have some more spare Tridents by then Tony!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 27, 2016, 06:23:34 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 27, 2016, 06:09:23 PM
Sure PN will have some more spare Tridents by then Tony!

3 have left PN already before the 4 Streetdecks have entered service, doubt they'll be many more to spare
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 27, 2016, 06:26:15 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 27, 2016, 06:23:34 PM
3 have left PN already before the 4 Streetdecks have entered service, doubt they'll be many more to spare

true @Winston , but none left when the 297 was lost, so I make that 3 that should be available.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on June 27, 2016, 07:00:40 PM
And more leaving when the X10 starts?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 27, 2016, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: Chris on June 27, 2016, 07:00:40 PM
And more leaving when the X10 starts?

Wouldn't have thought so as the X10 PVR will be very similar to the 141, cutting the 241 back may through up a bus or two.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on June 27, 2016, 08:33:26 PM
The X10 is getting platinum there fore most likely more Trident cascades from PN?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on June 27, 2016, 08:34:39 PM
Quote from: Chris on June 27, 2016, 08:33:26 PM
The X10 is getting platinum there fore most likely more Trident cascades from PN?

Hang On @Chris Who said the X10 was going Platinum
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 27, 2016, 08:37:54 PM
@RS On this page.

http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4241.msg188915#msg188915
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on June 27, 2016, 08:39:34 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 27, 2016, 08:37:54 PM
@RS On this page.

http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4241.msg188915#msg188915
Apologies Chris thanks for clarification @Nathan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 27, 2016, 08:54:21 PM
Quote from: Chris on June 27, 2016, 08:33:26 PM
The X10 is getting platinum there fore most likely more Trident cascades from PN?

At some point Platinum's will arrive, but not by the X10's launch date
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 27, 2016, 08:55:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 27, 2016, 08:54:21 PM
At some point Platinum's will arrive, but not by the X10's launch date

Late September I've been hearing.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on June 30, 2016, 09:05:16 AM
WA 1772 out for first time in crimson on rt6 left Walsall 9:00am
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 30, 2016, 09:10:12 AM
4218 is on 10/07 today. Will do the X51/X56 this evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 30, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on June 30, 2016, 09:05:16 AM
WA 1772 out for first time in crimson on rt6 left Walsall 9:00am

It was out yesterday (think it may have been the 311/13 i saw it on)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on June 30, 2016, 09:34:38 AM
I court 1760 yesterday morning on 311 then I sore 1763 on311  as well plus think they have change some of the flags to 11/13
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 30, 2016, 09:39:39 AM
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
It was out yesterday (think it may have been the 311/13 i saw it on)

It was on the 4 all day Tuesday as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 30, 2016, 10:38:15 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 30, 2016, 09:10:12 AM
4218 is on 10/07 today. Will do the X51/X56 this evening.

;D

One for me to find this afternoon then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 30, 2016, 10:45:45 AM
Quote from: John on June 30, 2016, 10:38:15 AM
;D

One for me to find this afternoon then

I'm catching it later.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: je1791 on June 30, 2016, 05:35:48 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 30, 2016, 09:29:25 AM
It was out yesterday (think it may have been the 311/13 i saw it on)

It was out in crimson before today here's when I saw it on the 29 https://www.flickr.com/photos/je1791/27740824392/in/dateposted/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 02, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
How bad was the Pelsall  corridor this afternoon, according to the 'management'?

This was due to the carnival.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 02, 2016, 05:43:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 02, 2016, 05:22:45 PM
How bad was the Pelsall  corridor this afternoon, according to the 'management'?

This was due to the carnival.

I was on the 8 / 89 and road was closed when I got to the finger post so I had to carry on straight to Brownhills and do the 10A route to Walsall! Surprisingly made it on time to Walsall! Was funny to be on a 89 in Brownhills though!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 02, 2016, 06:05:35 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 02, 2016, 05:43:14 PM
I was on the 8 / 89 and road was closed when I got to the finger post so I had to carry on straight to Brownhills and do the 10A route to Walsall! Surprisingly made it on time to Walsall! Was funny to be on a 89 in Brownhills though!

The 8 was unusually busy, of course it was expected because of the carnival. Coming back to Walsall was interesting, full bus with 2 pushchairs.

The 89 going to Brownhills was definitely interesting, it felt weird going there!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 02, 2016, 09:56:55 PM
I saw one 8 between 3 & 4 on normal route.

In addition, one Arriva 3 to Walsall.

Luckily I managed to go  to & from Bloxwich & Pelsall on an Igo 25 but they had to take a diversion as their normal route was blocked by parked carnival floats to the Allens Lane(I think) corner, the one that leads to Slacky Lane!

At that point, someone got on & the person that was waiting with them proceeded to give the lady Igo driver some grief in response to her telling them that they should be waiting opposite the bus stop slightly further up the road, as some drivers would not stop on the corner.

The person that got on was very apologetic about her 'friend' when she got off at the Forest Estate.

By the way, I never saw anything on social media about the diversions & the app was working 'normally' !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on July 08, 2016, 11:21:23 AM
The a platinum in west bromwich I think it's 6757
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John Stait on July 12, 2016, 01:21:29 PM
4575 on the 301 today, just arrived into Walsall (13:20) Loan I guess?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 16, 2016, 08:21:07 AM
@RS It's quite common to find 934/5/6/7 branded vehicles on the 997/X51 and vice versa with the 997/X51 branded vehicles. This is since some 934 boards do X51's (934/01 actually does X51's and 997's all day apart from a 935 to Birmingham and a round trip on the 937 in the morning) and also some X51 boards start and finish as 937's. Also you have the interworking at night with the X51 and 937A/934E unbranded Platinum's are used on a Sunday). I've given up posting when they are on other Platinum routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 16, 2016, 11:01:27 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 16, 2016, 08:21:07 AM
@RS It's quite common to find 934/5/6/7 branded vehicles on the 997/X51 and vice versa with the 997/X51 branded vehicles. This is since some 934 boards do X51's (934/01 actually does X51's and 997's all day apart from a 935 to Birmingham and a round trip on the 937 in the morning) and also some X51 boards start and finish as 937's. Also you have the interworking at night with the X51 and 937A/934E unbranded Platinum's are used on a Sunday). I've given up posting when they are on other Platinum routes.

Why didn't they have a generic 'Fast to Birmingham' branding on all of Walsall's Plats, instead of branding up for certain routes, if this amount of interworking is happening?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 17, 2016, 07:59:49 PM
@Stuharris 6360 maybe the 4's will the next a scanias into repaint and treated with a new branding ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 17, 2016, 08:21:48 PM
Quote from: Chris on July 17, 2016, 07:59:49 PM
@Stuharris 6360 maybe the 4's will the next a scanias into repaint and treated with a new branding ?

I was just wondering as the branding still has the 4H as a new service and from next week will show the 4M as a 30 minute service even though it will be every 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on July 17, 2016, 08:46:26 PM
Is it possible they've started taken branding off them as there has been 3/4 Volvos working the 4's the past couple of days?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on July 22, 2016, 09:15:46 AM
Must be first time a crimson bus on rt40/1 1772 is doing dep Walsall 9:25 rt40 and the last crimson on rt40 only 1 more day left of 40route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on July 22, 2016, 10:43:32 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on July 22, 2016, 09:15:46 AM
Must be first time a crimson bus on rt40/1 1772 is doing dep Walsall 9:25 rt40 and the last crimson on rt40 only 1 more day left of 40route

The first and most likely the last
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 22, 2016, 05:01:57 PM
4261 will be doing the last X56 today. I'm currently on it on the X51 to Birmingham. And what a beast it is! Coolant fans roaring all the way down the Birmingham Road!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on July 23, 2016, 12:45:07 PM
@Trident 4194 B7's on the 4's are not rare in the slightest
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Quote from: Dom on July 23, 2016, 12:45:07 PM
@Trident 4194 B7's on the 4's are not rare in the slightest

Crimson?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 23, 2016, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Crimson?

They're all going crimson, Walsall don't differentiate in livery
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on July 23, 2016, 12:57:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
Crimson?

Still not noteworthy at all
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2016, 01:15:44 PM
Quote from: Dom on July 23, 2016, 12:57:03 PM
Still not noteworthy at all

Shows how little I know
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on July 23, 2016, 07:02:44 PM
2024 and 4044 parked outside garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 23, 2016, 07:05:27 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on July 23, 2016, 07:02:44 PM
2024 and 4044 parked outside garage

Both have been in  paint to accident repairs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 37351ml on July 24, 2016, 08:10:02 AM
1888 worked the last 38 @18.49 from wednesbury yesterday evening. Enthusiast on board taking photos (the cockney fellow who works on the metro).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B10L1473 on July 25, 2016, 08:26:07 AM
The 10 is now branded pink at Walsall using ex 529 buses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 25, 2016, 08:31:08 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 25, 2016, 08:03:01 AM
860 on WA8/89.

@Michael Bevan 860 will be on 36/01. Starts its day on the 89, 8 then goes onto the 36.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 25, 2016, 09:00:59 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 25, 2016, 08:03:01 AM
860 on WA8/89.

Would probably be on 36/01. Does the 89 from 06:05 - 07:57, the 8s from 08:05 - 09:28 then start doing 36 from 09:40.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 26, 2016, 07:33:14 AM
For the record, I know it was quite obvious it would happen, but the extra X51 in the morning that replaces the previous X56 short is still on the same board, so will spend the day on the 51. Potential for a regular 51 branded bus on the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Adam 404 on July 26, 2016, 08:38:29 AM
Quote from: B10L1473 on July 25, 2016, 08:26:07 AM
The 10 is now branded pink at Walsall using ex 529 buses.
It looks good on @Tony 's website. Very good.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on July 26, 2016, 03:55:08 PM
Im not that familiar with WA routes but saw these today:
29:4258/4346/4131
301:1838/184x
And some tridents on 301/302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 26, 2016, 04:20:07 PM
I'm amazed at how new some of the omnilinks still look.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 26, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
4603 is out on 10/10A now. Should have done the 15:50 departure ex Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 26, 2016, 04:22:33 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 26, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
4603 is out on 10/10A now. Should have done the 15:50 departure ex Walsall.

It did. I just photographed it. Change bus for 4303 ironically
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 26, 2016, 05:23:48 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 26, 2016, 04:20:07 PM
I'm amazed at how new some of the omnilinks still look.

The original Walsall Scanias are a different matter.

You've probably seen the ex PB repaints.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 26, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 26, 2016, 04:20:32 PM
4603 is out on 10/10A now. Should have done the 15:50 departure ex Walsall.

4602 has come out as well but it has no pink cover around the front destination.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on July 26, 2016, 05:54:41 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 26, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
4602 has come out as well but it has no pink cover around the front destination.

They would come out after I have left... Will have to look for them another day
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on July 27, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
WA 4605 on rt10 left brownhills 9:10 for burntwood
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2016, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on July 27, 2016, 09:21:07 AM
WA 4605 on rt10 left brownhills 9:10 for burntwood

Unsurprisingly 4602/3/5 are all on the 10 as they are branded for it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on July 27, 2016, 05:29:22 PM
I wonder if the three kids at 1315 by Walsall paint shop had permission to be there and guess who one of them was
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on July 27, 2016, 05:44:36 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on July 27, 2016, 05:29:22 PM
I wonder if the three kids at 1315 by Walsall paint shop had permission to be there and guess who one of them was

How do these kids even manage to get it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on July 27, 2016, 06:29:31 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on July 27, 2016, 05:29:22 PM
I wonder if the three kids at 1315 by Walsall paint shop had permission to be there and guess who one of them was
Before you even go there no I was not at Walsall Paintshop I haven't even been to Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on July 27, 2016, 06:43:37 PM
Quote from: RS on July 27, 2016, 06:29:31 PM
Before you even go there no I was not at Walsall Paintshop I haven't even been to Walsall
you have a identical brother then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on July 27, 2016, 07:11:42 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on July 27, 2016, 06:43:37 PM
you have a identical brother then
Look I haven't been to Walsall so quit it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 27, 2016, 07:12:25 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on July 27, 2016, 06:43:37 PM
you have a identical brother then

Did you drive a bus for repaint then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2016, 07:15:08 PM
Wasn't anything to see anyway, just a tatty YW Scania outside waiting to be started and even looking inside through the door all you could see was 4440 having the advert removed and a couple of fronts that everyone knows is in there as they are on the last list I did
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 28, 2016, 06:40:22 AM
Quote from: karl724223 on July 27, 2016, 05:29:22 PM
I wonder if the three kids at 1315 by Walsall paint shop had permission to be there and guess who one of them was

How did you notice them Karl?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 28, 2016, 01:24:38 PM
6720 was parked in Stourbridge bus station, left around 15 minutes ago
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on July 28, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 28, 2016, 06:40:22 AM
How did you notice them Karl?
I was at Walsall bus garage and I know what rs looks like and I've had the unfortunate pleasure of having him on a 222 with passengers that know him as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: TinnedPeaches on July 28, 2016, 05:55:11 PM
It's petty sniping like all the above that stops me coming on here to read/post anything.

The one time I log in hoping to read something relevant and interesting and this is what I find.

If you don't like each other, don't wind each other up. There's enough real hatred in the world without people raking muck like this in a forum that's about BUSES/PUBLIC TRANSPORT and not petty arguments.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on July 28, 2016, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: TinnedPeaches on July 28, 2016, 05:55:11 PM
It's petty sniping like all the above that stops me coming on here to read/post anything.

The one time I log in hoping to read something relevant and interesting and this is what I find.

If you don't like each other, don't wind each other up. There's enough real hatred in the world without people raking muck like this in a forum that's about BUSES/PUBLIC TRANSPORT and not petty arguments.

Well said that man (or woman, I'm not sure, sorry!) (https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi253.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh77%2FSanzLuisGarcia%2F5.gif&hash=889b71e3b4fa43d119cbfb8ba5bbf8be13d3ab8d)

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on July 28, 2016, 06:22:29 PM
Give it a rest the lot of you, move on & get back on topic!

All the crap being posted is ruining the forum for others,

Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on July 28, 2016, 06:29:10 PM
Agreed @Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: TinnedPeaches on July 28, 2016, 07:57:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 28, 2016, 06:12:31 PM
Well said that man (or woman, I'm not sure, sorry!) (https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi253.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh77%2FSanzLuisGarcia%2F5.gif&hash=889b71e3b4fa43d119cbfb8ba5bbf8be13d3ab8d)

Man. And I'm glad you echo my sentiments.

Now let's get back to buses and stuff!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 31, 2016, 07:22:44 AM
997/X51 branded 6735 is on the 934/71 (which does X51's, 934E's and 937A's). Whilst it's not noteworthy since it's the type of vehicle booked, it is unusual to get a branded MMC on the 934 boards since they are all supposed to be unbranded MMC's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on July 31, 2016, 08:59:21 AM
Travelled on 4605 yesterday. Such a pity a newly branded bus couldn't of been given a interior deep cleaning and re fresh. Dirty interior panels and dirty saggy seats downstairs. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on July 31, 2016, 12:19:02 PM
Quote from: andyr on July 31, 2016, 08:59:21 AM
Travelled on 4605 yesterday. Such a pity a newly branded bus couldn't of been given a interior deep cleaning and re fresh. Dirty interior panels and dirty saggy seats downstairs.
That's what 10 years on the 529 does...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on July 31, 2016, 02:17:17 PM
4218 on the 10 today is that a transfer I have missed or a loan?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on July 31, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Thats a transfer @888DUK
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on July 31, 2016, 02:20:00 PM
Quote from: 888DUK on July 31, 2016, 02:17:17 PM
4218 on the 10 today is that a transfer I have missed or a loan?

Silly me just checked the fleetlist ::)

Sorry Guys
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Driver03 on July 31, 2016, 02:38:46 PM
Quote from: andyr on July 31, 2016, 08:59:21 AM
Travelled on 4605 yesterday. Such a pity a newly branded bus couldn't of been given a interior deep cleaning and re fresh. Dirty interior panels and dirty saggy seats downstairs.
Please have some respect for the cleaners that clean buses. I know for a fact that those buses left Wolves immaculate (cleanliness wise) and no doubt Walsall cleaners have cleaned them to the same high standards, bear in mind that it's certain types of passengers that ruin them and it's not because they aren't cleaned.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 31, 2016, 08:23:59 PM
@RS The 89 is now booked Double Deckers on Sundays (posting to inform incase you weren't aware). Changed last Sunday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on August 01, 2016, 09:54:27 AM
Driver 03..
Passengers don't make roof and side panels dirty and encrust them with months of dirt.

There not to blame for filthy interior light fittings.
No disrespect to the cleaners intended but for a bus intended to promote a service care and attention should of been shown. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 01, 2016, 12:37:47 PM
4737s little near side window before doors is thick with grime!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 02, 2016, 02:01:16 PM
Quote from: RS on August 02, 2016, 01:49:02 PM
4024 on the 7A

I will do what some people on here post the 'That's not noteworthy' post. Here it is. @RS, 4024 on 7A is not noteworthy or rare. Neither is 4105.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 05, 2016, 07:00:46 AM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 04, 2016, 05:57:56 PM
2125 on the BC47
4869 on the 935
7024 on the 16
4780 on the 46

I'm afraid @Dylanbusboy45 that an standard E400 on any Platinum route is not noteworthy as they are used when no Platinum's are available.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 05, 2016, 07:20:07 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 05, 2016, 07:00:46 AM
I'm afraid @Dylanbusboy45 that an standard E400 on any Platinum route is not noteworthy as they are used when no Platinum's are available.

So its pointless me mentioning the occasional standard vehicle on the Cannock X51s then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 05, 2016, 09:06:26 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 05, 2016, 07:00:46 AM
I'm afraid @Dylanbusboy45 that an standard E400 on any Platinum route is not noteworthy as they are used when no Platinum's are available.

Oh right. I know if i see it happen again it isnt noteworthy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 05, 2016, 01:55:50 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 05, 2016, 07:20:07 AM
So its pointless me mentioning the occasional standard vehicle on the Cannock X51s then?

Well it's interesting to hear, but not noteworthy.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 05, 2016, 02:54:44 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 05, 2016, 09:06:26 AM
Oh right. I know if i see it happen again it isnt noteworthy
If in doubt put it in the respective garage thread instead may save on any comments as I do if I ain't too sure if it a noteworthy post or not @Dylanbusboy45
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on August 05, 2016, 04:04:12 PM
When will 4033 be in city
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on August 05, 2016, 04:18:08 PM
Quote from: RS on August 05, 2016, 04:04:12 PM
When will 4033 be in city

Why ask in two threads? Also a please is usually appreciated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 05, 2016, 04:57:51 PM
@Tony Are you hearing about complaints traveling through the Myvod in Wednesbury?

Second time Ive come through here(I use both routes everyday!) & a little darling is using the bus for target practice!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 05, 2016, 06:07:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 05, 2016, 04:57:51 PM
@Tony Are you hearing about complaints traveling through the Myvod in Wednesbury?

Second time Ive come through here(I use both routes everyday!) & a little darling is using the bus for target practice!

Contact the police if you have any information.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 05, 2016, 06:54:03 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 05, 2016, 02:54:44 PM
If in doubt put it in the respective garage thread instead may save on any comments as I do if I ain't too sure if it a noteworthy post or not @Dylanbusboy45

Yes I usually do but was quite sure it was noteworthy. Thanks for the advice anyway @Squiz1971
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 05, 2016, 10:30:31 PM
Quote from: Stu on August 05, 2016, 06:07:38 PM
Contact the police if you have any information.

I dont. I just heard the window crack as I went past!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 10, 2016, 09:03:55 AM
Does the 11/13 both go to ikea/next etc? Is it fairly obvious where to get off?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on August 10, 2016, 11:04:12 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 10, 2016, 09:03:55 AM
Does the 11/13 both go to ikea/next etc? Is it fairly obvious where to get off?

?? Neither the 11 or the 13 doesn't go by ikea.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 10, 2016, 11:13:11 AM
Quote from: Dom on August 10, 2016, 11:04:12 AM
?? Neither the 11 or the 13 doesn't go by ikea.
About a 15 minute walk from it.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/52.5688045,-2.0155563/52.564785,-2.0050007/@52.5677685,-2.0148934,16.75z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2

The 34, 37, 39, 333L, 333X, 334 and 339 all stop nearer to it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 10, 2016, 11:18:24 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 10, 2016, 09:03:55 AM
Does the 11/13 both go to ikea/next etc? Is it fairly obvious where to get off?

Catch 34/37/39 and get off A4038 Walsall Road, Park Lane bus stop and walk from there. It's not that far.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 10, 2016, 01:17:17 PM
Interesting to note, despite notices being put in the stops concerned, me & another bloke, plus one of the 51 drivers had to tell X51 passengers to go to Stand G at Walsall instead!

(Walsall Bus Station stops are in progress of having doors fitted!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 10, 2016, 01:24:42 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 10, 2016, 11:18:24 AM
Catch 34/37/39 and get off A4038 Walsall Road, Park Lane bus stop and walk from there. It's not that far.

You're looking for Gala Bingo & Blakemore Food Service, if you're not familiar with the area!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 10, 2016, 01:41:37 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 10, 2016, 01:24:42 PM
You're looking for Gala Bingo & Blakemore Food Service, if you're not familiar with the area!

I know, thanks. :) I looked on the Google Maps link 2206 provided and 34/37/39 looks closer.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 10, 2016, 03:22:56 PM
THANKYOU @2206 @P419 EJW @Westy

I am very unfamiliar with the area.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on August 10, 2016, 10:16:45 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 10, 2016, 01:17:17 PM
Interesting to note, despite notices being put in the stops concerned, me & another bloke, plus one of the 51 drivers had to tell X51 passengers to go to Stand G at Walsall instead!

(Walsall Bus Station stops are in progress of having doors fitted!)

How is the obvious fact that most people are just dippy an interesting thing to note?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 11, 2016, 06:57:23 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 10, 2016, 10:16:45 PM
How is the obvious fact that most people are just dippy an interesting thing to note?

Well surely if your bus hadnt turned up, youd find out what happened!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mikestone on August 11, 2016, 07:27:52 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 10, 2016, 01:41:37 PM
I know, thanks. :) I looked on the Google Maps link 2206 provided and 34/37/39 looks closer.
Next is certainly far closer to the Wednesbury routes. While looking for the name of the stop spotted that traveline sems to think the routes are un-numbered and an equally strange idea of what constitutes Kings Hill.
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http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&itdLPxx_dateDay=20160811&dateDay=20160811&command=direct&net=cen&line=33011&sup=A&project=y11&itdLPxx_direction=H&direction=H&contentFilter=TIMINGPOINTS&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=NXB
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 11, 2016, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: mikestone on August 11, 2016, 07:27:52 PM
Next is certainly far closer to the Wednesbury routes. While looking for the name of the stop spotted that traveline sems to think the routes are un-numbered and an equally strange idea of what constitutes Kings Hill.
;
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&itdLPxx_dateDay=20160811&dateDay=20160811&command=direct&net=cen&line=33011&sup=A&project=y11&itdLPxx_direction=H&direction=H&contentFilter=TIMINGPOINTS&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=NXB
Ikea is closer to the Darlaston routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 13, 2016, 05:17:30 PM
1773 making some odd hissing (sounds like letting out air) as it's accelerates and slows down
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 14, 2016, 11:07:00 AM
6725 is on the X51's/934E's/936A's today. Came out as a change bus for 6753.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 15, 2016, 02:01:59 PM
So Walsall in the process of removing the branding of the 4'S, majority now been removed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 15, 2016, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 15, 2016, 02:01:59 PM
So Walsall in the process of removing the branding of the 4'S, majority now been removed.

They've all been off for nearly two weeks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on August 15, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
There's only 1880 that still has branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 15, 2016, 02:35:27 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 15, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
There's only 1880 that still has branding

That should have been removed 10 days ago, I was told it had been done
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 15, 2016, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 15, 2016, 02:31:55 PM
There's only 1880 that still has branding

I saw one just in blackheath on the 4, probably 1880, that's why I mentioned it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on August 15, 2016, 09:39:22 PM
Yes only 1 left with branding lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 16, 2016, 11:31:47 AM
Anybody know why 4868 has different rear lights on the bottom picture when new?

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4868.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 16, 2016, 03:42:05 PM
6732 on the X51 is displaying the fleet number on the left (When you look at it) ain't seen that format in a while !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 16, 2016, 06:49:25 PM
6754 going down Church Road in Perry Barr on the X51 atm, because the driver forgot what route he was doing
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on August 17, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
WA 4603 has escaped onto rt89 dep Walsall 9:25
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 17, 2016, 12:49:16 PM
What is 6733 doing parked by the entrance to the bus station at  West Bromwich
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 17, 2016, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on August 17, 2016, 12:49:16 PM
What is 6733 doing parked by the entrance to the bus station at  West Bromwich

One parked up in WB Friday aswell. 672* it was
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 18, 2016, 07:38:28 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 18, 2016, 07:33:49 AM
4105 on WA51.

I'm guessing that's a peak board?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 18, 2016, 08:29:18 AM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 18, 2016, 07:38:28 AM
I'm guessing that's a peak board?

It's actually got itself onto a board that is out until midnight if no-one changes it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 18, 2016, 08:33:10 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2016, 08:29:18 AM
It's actually got itself onto a board that is out until midnight if no-one changes it

Could I have some sort of timing/location please @Tony ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: RS on August 18, 2016, 10:39:23 AM
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2016, 08:29:18 AM
It's actually got itself onto a board that is out until midnight if no-one changes it
Is it still out please if so where please
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 23, 2016, 07:38:43 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on August 23, 2016, 07:17:39 PM
855 on A51.

Those services are still running !

From what I've gathered during my time working at Amazon, pretty much every vehicle type at WA (Bar OmniLinks) have appeared on the A51/2. Even Geminis appeared before they left WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 27, 2016, 11:22:19 AM
6751 hooked up to a RS truck on the little island bit of Walsall Bus Station.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 27, 2016, 03:02:40 PM
4105 is on the 301 today
Edit:Not sure how common these are but referring to the allocation spreadsheet they are all not usual alloactions:
4776 on the 41
4189/4331/4298/4304 on the 29
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 27, 2016, 07:27:58 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 27, 2016, 03:02:40 PM
4105 is on the 301 today
Edit:Not sure how common these are but referring to the allocation spreadsheet they are all not usual alloactions:
4776 on the 41
4189/4331/4298/4304 on the 29

Deckers on the 301 and 29 are quite commonplace
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on August 27, 2016, 07:31:43 PM
Quote from: John on August 27, 2016, 07:27:58 PM
Deckers on the 301 and 29 are quite commonplace

Yeh thought they are as had a feeling I had seen deckers on 29 before. It needs to be added to spreadsheet then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on August 30, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
A destination display I've never seen before is 'Change over bus' just seen on a Platinum in the City Centre.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on August 30, 2016, 04:07:25 PM
Quote from: Gareth on August 30, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
A destination display I've never seen before is 'Change over bus' just seen on a Platinum in the City Centre.
I'm sure this was used before by BC (Harbornes) - for a short amount of time - when the relief point was changed from Snow Hill Queensway to Colmore Row..

For some perspective, this was when the Harbornes still served SH1 on Colmore Row.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on August 30, 2016, 04:31:12 PM
Quote from: clayderman on August 30, 2016, 04:07:25 PM
I'm sure this was used before by BC (Harbornes) - for a short amount of time - when the relief point was changed from Snow Hill Queensway to Colmore Row..

For some perspective, this was when the Harbornes still served SH1 on Colmore Row.

I recall they used something different. Saying something along the lines of driver change over or something similar. The display seem on the platinum looks like it's used when passengers have to change onto another due to a fault or breakdown etc.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 01, 2016, 06:57:16 AM
Different driver to normal on the second Cannock X51 this morning, but nice to see the cover driver is actually wearing the proper Platinum uniform unlike the usual driver!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2016, 11:22:45 AM
4600 complete with pink bits is out on the 301 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2016, 07:07:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2016, 11:22:45 AM
4600 complete with pink bits is out on the 301 today

Was on the 89 by this afternoon (still with 529 branding).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on September 05, 2016, 10:41:28 PM
I am not sure if I am going mad but did I see an Crimson Scania single deck in Lichfield by the station was a rail replacement or could it be speculation for some other reason?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 05, 2016, 10:55:16 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 05, 2016, 10:41:28 PM
I am not sure if I am going mad but did I see an Crimson Scania single deck in Lichfield by the station was a rail replacement or could it be speculation for some other reason?
Would of been a PB, or YW Omnilink then.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on September 10, 2016, 08:29:46 AM
WA platinum 6758 on rt6 leaving Walsall 8:30
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 10, 2016, 03:12:02 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 10, 2016, 01:39:08 PM
1849 on 301
6722 on 7

@Dylanbusboy45 neither are noteworthy. Scania's regularly get on the 301 and 302. Also Platinum's are allocated to the 6, 7 and 7A on Saturday's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on September 10, 2016, 03:16:35 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 10, 2016, 03:12:02 PM
@Dylanbusboy45 neither are noteworthy. Scania's regularly get on the 301 and 302. Also Platinum's are allocated to the 6, 7 and 7A on Saturday's.

Oh yes. Now you say it I remember you saying about the Platinums on 7 not being noteworthy anymore. I know for next time (if i can remember...)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 10, 2016, 06:42:31 PM
Lots of b7s on 4/4H/4M at 15:30-16:30 there didn't seem anything but b7s. Coincidence?

Also 1880 still got 4 branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Walsall1955 on September 10, 2016, 06:48:56 PM
Quote from: Gareth on August 30, 2016, 02:52:45 PM
A destination display I've never seen before is 'Change over bus' just seen on a Platinum in the City Centre.
I have seen this CHANGE OVER BUS display several times in Walsall, 2008 - 2012:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/28745665854/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/29260751182/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/28745665854/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 18, 2016, 09:04:57 AM
Quote from: 37351ml on September 18, 2016, 08:38:49 AM
One from yesterday: 6757-6 leaving Walsall @ 10.25.

Not nnoteworthy on a Saturday @37351ml as they are allocated to the 6, 7 and 7A on a Saturday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 21, 2016, 08:12:30 PM
Any reason why 4660 was parked up at the back of the printers opposite The Wharf Bar in Walsall around 6pm tonight?

Couldnt see a driver on board.

Correction, it was 4600. It was one of the ex WN 529's!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on September 21, 2016, 08:17:18 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 21, 2016, 08:12:30 PM
Any reason why 4660 was parked up at the back of the printers opposite The Wharf Bar in Walsall around 6pm tonight?

Couldnt see a driver on board.
having a quick pint
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on September 23, 2016, 01:50:21 PM
1845 on 4s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 24, 2016, 06:01:03 PM
Quote from: OH25 on September 24, 2016, 05:59:09 PM
a platinum E400MMC (believe it was 6721) was on WA6 earlier

@OH25 not noteworthy on a Saturday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 24, 2016, 07:07:55 PM
4073 appears withdrawn ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 25, 2016, 02:22:52 AM
Are the ex 529s replacing the Presidents
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 25, 2016, 07:47:41 AM
Quote from: Bob on September 25, 2016, 02:22:52 AM
Are the ex 529s replacing the Presidents

Appears they are replacing their ALX400 bodied Volvo B7TL's (42**'s) to AG and WB.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 25, 2016, 10:11:03 AM
Strange one for a Sunday :
4776 is out on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 25, 2016, 10:44:04 AM
Quote from: Kevin on September 25, 2016, 10:11:03 AM
Strange one for a Sunday :
4776 is out on the 51

Might be the board that does the Amazon this evening ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 25, 2016, 10:58:00 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 25, 2016, 10:44:04 AM
Might be the board that does the Amazon this evening ?

Pass. 10:15 Scott Arms towards city if that qualifies owt
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 25, 2016, 12:09:38 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on September 25, 2016, 10:44:04 AM
Might be the board that does the Amazon this evening ?

No, it is not. 51s all day until 20:15 back at garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 25, 2016, 04:11:32 PM
My manager knows some people at Walsall Garage & he & his family got invited on a private Drayton Manor trip for the drivers recently.

Is it likely 4776 was the vehicle used or are there other tacho enabled vehicles at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 979 on September 25, 2016, 08:12:31 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 25, 2016, 04:11:32 PM
My manager knows some people at Walsall Garage & he & his family got invited on a private Drayton Manor trip for the drivers recently.

Is it likely 4776 was the vehicle used or are there other tacho enabled vehicles at Walsall?
It's not private and it's not only for drivers it's for all staff and they can purchase as many tickets as they like!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 25, 2016, 09:55:23 PM
Quote from: 979 on September 25, 2016, 08:12:31 PM
It's not private and it's not only for drivers it's for all staff and they can purchase as many tickets as they like!

So non staff were able to go if they knew staff as I suspected!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 26, 2016, 03:05:54 PM
4598 - 7 , first day out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 27, 2016, 06:11:43 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 27, 2016, 05:48:16 PM
1772 on WA51.

Scott Arms now (18:10) city bound
Probably ~18:40 in city if people want to watch it get hammered
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 27, 2016, 06:23:54 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 27, 2016, 06:11:43 PM
Scott Arms now (18:10) city bound
Probably ~18:40 in city if people want to watch it get hammered

18:35 from City, then back to garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 27, 2016, 09:58:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2016, 06:23:54 PM
18:35 from City, then back to garage

If I'm correct, this is the first time a Crimson B7RLE has ever been on the 51 isn't it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on September 28, 2016, 11:17:51 AM
Quote from: Kevin on September 27, 2016, 06:11:43 PM
Scott Arms now (18:10) city bound
Probably ~18:40 in city if people want to watch it get hammered

I thought the Square Peg was more crowded than usual.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 28, 2016, 12:47:26 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on September 28, 2016, 11:17:51 AM
I thought the Square Peg was more crowded than usual.

Because double decks won't fit through the doors  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 28, 2016, 05:47:12 PM
4105 is doing the A51 this evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 01, 2016, 06:23:35 PM
Quote from: JoNi on October 01, 2016, 06:19:09 PM
6720 - 6
Not unusual.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 03, 2016, 05:52:07 PM
6727 is on the A51 this evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 03, 2016, 05:54:19 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on October 03, 2016, 04:50:22 PM
4736 on the X51

@MasterPlan Enviro 400's are not noteworthy on any Platinum routes as they are used in the event of a Platinum being unavailable.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2016, 06:23:58 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 03, 2016, 05:54:19 PM
@MasterPlan Enviro 400's are not noteworthy on any Platinum routes as they are used in the event of a Platinum being unavailable.

I disagree, what are the spare platinums doing then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on October 03, 2016, 06:25:12 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2016, 06:23:58 PM
I disagree, what are the spare platinums doing then?

Walsall doesn't have many/any spare to cover, since the 937 was introduced
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 03, 2016, 06:39:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2016, 06:23:58 PM
I disagree, what are the spare platinums doing then?

Now which spares are those? Walsall have 40 buses for 40 running boards at the moment.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 03, 2016, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 03, 2016, 06:25:12 PM
Walsall doesn't have many/any spare to cover, since the 937 was introduced

Forgot about the 937 apologies
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 03, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
Quote from: WMT3000 on October 03, 2016, 08:39:16 PM
There's a platinum, either 6728 or 6729, just departing brum on the 51.

I'm sure that's the board 51/13 which goes back to garage at 01:45. Was it a swap or was it allocated from the beginning?

It's 6729.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 04, 2016, 07:21:58 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 03, 2016, 08:47:01 PM
I'm sure that's the board 51/13 which goes back to garage at 01:45. Was it a swap or was it allocated from the beginning?

It's 6729.

I know the usual debate of "It's a bus, it doesn't matter" but surely this sort of thing should be avoided as much as possible
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 04, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
I had to post this I think ex Wolvo garage Branded Tridents are in a right state with the pink line still in them and nxwm badges at the front removed the engine on 4592 4599 4590 and 4600 sound horrible the interior is a mess Walsall made 4604 and 4603 look good in the 10 10A branding but these are a mess. I see these pretty much everyday on the 701 and 41 they need to either brand them like 4604 or repaint them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on October 04, 2016, 06:46:47 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 04, 2016, 06:39:55 PM
I had to post this I think ex Wolvo garage Branded Tridents are in a right state with the pink line still in them and nxwm badges at the front removed the engine on 4593 4599 4590 and 4600 sound horrible the interior is a mess Walsall made 4604 and 4603 look god in the 10 10A branding but these are a mess. I see these pretty much everyday on the 701 and 41 they need to either brand them like 4604 or repaint them.
Funny I thought 4593 had an unfortunate engine fire in Feb so how can the engine sound horrible when it is no longer in service @BusFan94???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 04, 2016, 06:53:37 PM
I meant 4592
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 04, 2016, 06:54:56 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on October 04, 2016, 06:46:47 PM
Funny I thought 4593 had an unfortunate engine fire in Feb so how can the engine sound horrible when it is no longer in service @BusFan94???

And 4590 was never branded and isn't at Walsall.

Not quite sure how Walsall have made a mess of 4603 & 4604 in a couple of weeks either as as far as I know they have not received any damage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 04, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on October 04, 2016, 06:46:47 PM
Funny I thought 4593 had an unfortunate engine fire in Feb so how can the engine sound horrible when it is no longer in service @BusFan94???
What was wrong with the engine by the way and do we have after fire images
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on October 04, 2016, 07:00:48 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 04, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
What was wrong with the engine by the way and do we have after fire images

Haven't got a link to a photo to hand, but imagine a bus not being there. That's what it looked like afterwards. Hardly anything left of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 04, 2016, 07:01:18 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 04, 2016, 06:55:46 PM
What was wrong with the engine by the way and do we have after fire images

It was actually an electrical fire under the stairs, there are plenty of images on the internet including
http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2016-02-07/firefighters-tackle-burning-bus-in-wolverhampton/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on October 04, 2016, 07:04:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2016, 07:01:18 PM
It was actually an electrical fire under the stairs, there are plenty of images on the internet including
http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2016-02-07/firefighters-tackle-burning-bus-in-wolverhampton/

and in the E&S

http://www.expressandstar.com/picture-galleries/news-pictures/2016/02/07/pictured-wolverhampton-firefighters-tackle-blazing-bus/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on October 04, 2016, 07:14:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2016, 07:01:18 PM
It was actually an electrical fire under the stairs, there are plenty of images on the internet including
http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2016-02-07/firefighters-tackle-burning-bus-in-wolverhampton/
Sorry @Tony for my incorrect info I thought I had read somewhere on the article it was an ordinary engine fire not an electrical fault causing the fire I do apologise for that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 05, 2016, 04:34:39 PM
4125 is back in service on 10, after the accident on the 41 couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 05, 2016, 04:43:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2016, 06:54:56 PM
And 4590 was never branded and isn't at Walsall.

Not quite sure how Walsall have made a mess of 4603 & 4604 in a couple of weeks either as as far as I know they have not received any damage.

Not 4604 or 4603 I meant 4600 4601 4602 and 4599 the ex 529 branding still shows with a pink line and the paint looks horrible and dirty the interior looks horrible and the engine sounds horrible I would have thought that Walsall Garage would have a better job of repainting them out of the 529 branding or reuse it for 10 10A branding I saw 4601 a few hours ago and it looks horrible and dirty but there is no damage but exterior and interior are awful.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 05, 2016, 04:44:24 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 05, 2016, 04:34:39 PM
4125 is back in service on 10, after the accident on the 41 couple of weeks ago.

Do have any information about it's crash and images
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 07, 2016, 10:07:14 AM
Should 4105 be in service with a totally blank display?

Thought there was some rule?

(On the 8 / 89's currently!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 07, 2016, 10:43:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 07, 2016, 10:07:14 AM
Should 4105 be in service with a totally blank display?

Thought there was some rule?

(On the 8 / 89's currently!)

It's fine now. Displays 89 Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on October 12, 2016, 08:49:25 AM
Must be transfer or loan to WA 4152 on rt8 arriving into Walsall bus station 8:52/5
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 12, 2016, 08:57:10 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on October 12, 2016, 08:49:25 AM
Must be transfer or loan to WA 4152 on rt8 arriving into Walsall bus station 8:52/5

Transfer
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 13, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
Repainted 1882 on the Darlaston corridor today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 13, 2016, 06:36:30 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 13, 2016, 05:53:14 PM
Repainted 1882 on the Darlaston corridor today.
Saw it around 07:50 I thought it was 1845 at first but it looks brilliant in crimson.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 13, 2016, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 13, 2016, 06:36:30 PM
Saw it around 07:50 I thought it was 1845 at first but it looks brilliant in crimson.

1845 was on the 4s. Saw it in Merry Hill early afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 13, 2016, 06:50:15 PM
Quote from: John on October 13, 2016, 06:44:16 PM
1845 was on the 4s. Saw it in Merry Hill early afternoon
I know it wasn't about 1845 is in crimson and I thought it was because I never knew that 1882 was painting in crimson.

Also can anyone tell me why I always see a not in service Walsall Garage Scania Omnilink going through Darlaston at around 07:52 does anyone know where it is going.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on October 13, 2016, 06:51:46 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 13, 2016, 06:50:15 PM

I know it wasn't about 1845 is in crimson and I thought it was because I never knew that 1882 was painting in crimson.

Also can anyone tell me why I always see a not in service Walsall Garage Scania Omnilink going through Darlaston at around 07:52 does anyone know where it is going.

Probably to pick up the 7:58 34 from Darlaston.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 14, 2016, 04:34:17 PM
Quote from: Dom on October 13, 2016, 06:51:46 PM
Probably to pick up the 7:58 34 from Darlaston.
Oh ok the 34 does have buses behind each other sometimes or one comes every minute whereas the 39 and 37 run up to like 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 17, 2016, 07:12:13 AM
1860 on 11/13's but still has its 4 'Next Stop' screen switched on, so the next stop is 'Oldbury Road Regis Heath Road'!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 18, 2016, 04:38:58 PM
I saw 1855 today parked up on St Lawrence Way it didn't look broken down but the driver was messing with the doors. It was too early to be the 07:58 34 From Darlo so does anyone know why it was parked there and what service it was going on or come off.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 18, 2016, 06:46:30 PM
4024 currently on the 302, probably the last working of a President from Walsall garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on October 18, 2016, 10:22:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 18, 2016, 06:46:30 PM
4024 currently on the 302, probably the last working of a President from Walsall garage

I think it was on the 41 earlier in the day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 18, 2016, 10:56:56 PM
Must admit, I have mixed feelings about the Presidents.

While it was nice seeing a bit of variety on the Bloxwich route, I was never keen on the staircase!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on October 19, 2016, 10:31:37 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 18, 2016, 10:56:56 PM
Must admit, I have mixed feelings about the Presidents.

While it was nice seeing a bit of variety on the Bloxwich route, I was never keen on the staircase!

Me neither.  I normally accessed the upper level by pogo stick.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 19, 2016, 07:23:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 18, 2016, 06:46:30 PM
4024 currently on the 302, probably the last working of a President from Walsall garage

4024 is still going today! Was on the 301 earlier.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on October 19, 2016, 10:17:16 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on October 19, 2016, 10:31:37 AM
Me neither.  I normally accessed the upper level by pogo stick.

Are pogo sticks aloud on buses  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 20, 2016, 06:48:10 AM
Quote from: Kevin on October 19, 2016, 10:41:17 PM
Standard E400 (can't ID properly from pub window) on late night 997s

@Kevin standard E400's are not noteworthy on Platinum routes. Although I have noticed a lot of sstandard E400's getting onto Platinum routes lately! I had 4869 yesterday into Walsall on the 997.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 20, 2016, 07:11:48 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 20, 2016, 06:48:10 AM
@Kevin standard E400's are not noteworthy on Platinum routes. Although I have noticed a lot of sstandard E400's getting onto Platinum routes lately! I had 4869 yesterday into Walsall on the 997.

Very much aware of that.
Was more the fact it was on a late evening run
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on October 20, 2016, 08:00:35 AM
4599 is on the 51. Came into Birmingham with just the pink stripe (no route) branding.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on October 20, 2016, 08:23:43 AM
Quote from: Lukeee on October 19, 2016, 10:17:16 PM
Are pogo sticks aloud on buses  ;)

Mine's fitted with a silencer!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on October 20, 2016, 08:26:42 AM
Quote from: Kevin on October 20, 2016, 07:11:48 AM
Very much aware of that.
Was more the fact it was on a late evening run

Which is abit of a treat these days.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on October 20, 2016, 11:42:57 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on October 20, 2016, 08:23:43 AM
Mine's fitted with a silencer!

Smart move
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 27, 2016, 05:48:58 PM
How badly were Walsall operations affected today by the bridge crash?

The majority of the buses would have been out already, but how did it affect shift changes, as drivers normally get on & off by The Doghouse?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 28, 2016, 09:38:06 AM
What routes are we talking about
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 28, 2016, 01:14:58 PM
301 and 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on October 28, 2016, 03:14:39 PM
What Bridge the one after Abbots Road or the one in Bloxwich after the Walsall Garage turn off
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 28, 2016, 05:06:29 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on October 28, 2016, 03:14:39 PM
What Bridge the one after Abbots Road or the one in Bloxwich after the Walsall Garage turn off

The one opposite the Go Kart place!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 28, 2016, 06:32:14 PM
2118 is out today on the A51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 29, 2016, 10:59:31 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 28, 2016, 06:32:14 PM
2118 is out today on the A51.

Currently parked NIS outside Walsall bus station
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 29, 2016, 12:34:06 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 29, 2016, 10:59:31 AM
Currently parked NIS outside Walsall bus station

Type training
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 29, 2016, 01:48:04 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 29, 2016, 12:34:06 PM
Type training

The layout that different to the other earlier b7rles?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 29, 2016, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 29, 2016, 01:48:04 PM
The layout that different to the other earlier b7rles?

Apparently so, I haven't had a look yet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 29, 2016, 03:21:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 29, 2016, 01:48:04 PM
The layout that different to the other earlier b7rles?

Different dashboard.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 31, 2016, 03:28:55 PM
2119 is out on 301 now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 31, 2016, 04:45:10 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 31, 2016, 03:28:55 PM
2119 is out on 301 now.

2118 is also on the 886 at the moment.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on November 09, 2016, 06:42:18 PM
Does if anyone know how badly damaged 1772 was damaged after it's fire on the 11 oink Wdnesbury
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 10, 2016, 12:29:21 AM
Thank god Ive been off this week.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on November 10, 2016, 12:55:02 AM
Quote from: BusFan94 on November 09, 2016, 06:42:18 PM
Does if anyone know how badly damaged 1772 was damaged after it's fire on the 11 oink Wdnesbury

Minor electrical fire , mostly damaged underneath so I'm told
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 10, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
Another repaint due then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Adam 404 on November 10, 2016, 04:27:49 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 10, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
Another repaint due then?
1772 has already been repainted... https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.591284597710144.1073742281.369276339910972/600871623418108/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on November 10, 2016, 04:38:59 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on November 09, 2016, 09:31:23 PM
I didn't know they kept pigs in Wednesbury. Unless its a local term for scum who set fire to buses.
I typed Or not ' oink' so I don't how it ended up like that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 10, 2016, 05:35:13 PM
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 10, 2016, 04:27:49 PM
1772 has already been repainted... https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.591284597710144.1073742281.369276339910972/600871623418108/?type=3&theater

So it will be repainted again then!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on November 11, 2016, 03:48:51 PM
4350 ventured out for first time at WA, was not in service so not sure what route it's going onto
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on November 11, 2016, 03:58:15 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 10, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
Another repaint due then?

I doubt a full repaint will happen-more likely a tidy up of the affected panels.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on November 11, 2016, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 11, 2016, 03:48:51 PM
4350 ventured out for first time at WA, was not in service so not sure what route it's going onto

sorry but been down with flu, so been missing of here fore few days, 4350 has transferred from PN to WA, would have thought 4181 would have gone or am i missing something? Looked through vehicle transfers but dont see anything mentioned?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on November 11, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 11, 2016, 03:48:51 PM
4350 ventured out for first time at WA, was not in service so not sure what route it's going onto

It has gone back to garage shortly afterwards, it did not have a ticket machine.

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on November 11, 2016, 09:26:38 PM
Sorry but been down with flu, so been missing of here for few days, 4350 has transferred from PN to WA, would have thought 4181 would have gone or am I missing something? Looked through vehicle transfers but don't see anything mentioned?

Tony's mention of 4350's transfer (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=10.msg200001#msg200001).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on November 11, 2016, 09:39:25 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 11, 2016, 09:32:53 PM
It has gone back to garage shortly afterwards, it did not have a ticket machine.

Tony's mention of 4350's transfer (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=10.msg200001#msg200001).

Thanks @P419 EJW
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on November 12, 2016, 12:47:56 AM
4350 was still at pensnett around 3/11/11 it was dead
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on November 14, 2016, 08:30:54 AM
WA 4350 on rt6 dep 8:25 Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 14, 2016, 04:54:15 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on November 14, 2016, 08:30:54 AM
WA 4350 on rt6 dep 8:25 Walsall

Now on the 10. Just departed Walsall to Burntwood.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on November 14, 2016, 07:16:00 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 14, 2016, 04:54:15 PM
Now on the 10. Just departed Walsall to Burntwood.

Replaced 4127, only had it for one trip
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 28, 2016, 06:56:58 AM
Assume we're a Plat down, as 4870 is on the 2nd Cannock this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on November 28, 2016, 07:53:27 AM
New branding on 1757 for 301/2 in blue
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 28, 2016, 09:51:02 AM
Quote from: Wright liberator on November 28, 2016, 07:53:27 AM
New branding on 1757 for 301/2 in blue

1750, 1751, 1753, 1754, 1755 and 1756 are also branded.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 28, 2016, 10:41:54 AM
4354 is out on the 89 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on November 28, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
4299 back at WA 301 Or 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 28, 2016, 01:48:41 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on November 28, 2016, 01:33:41 PM
4299 back at WA 301 Or 302

It's on the 301. I had it earlier.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on November 28, 2016, 04:57:17 PM
I was thinking about this while on a 529 to Wolverhampton and I thought why did Walsall Garage withdraw of the 40 and replace it with the 37 between Walsall and Willenhall when you've got the 41 it doesn't make any sense.
The reasons I thought of are The 529 being made a Platinum route meaning more people will use it.
You've also got the 69 to provide links with New Cross.
The 40 wasn't doing very well.
The 37 was introduced to provide Darlaston and Willenhall links.
But I've seen 37 with no passengers on now not including the 333X I have also noticed the 41 seems to have more people on it and the 40 would have been busy with the 41. Now I think they brought the 37 to provide a link with the Manor Hospital and Willenhall but then scrapped it and made the 39 serve the manor. Can anyone shed any light on what NXWM or Walsall Garage were thinking when withdrawing the 40.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on December 04, 2016, 11:49:59 AM
On the 301 and 302 when drivers board the bus going to the garage do they have to pay fare or use passes or do they get on for free.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on December 04, 2016, 11:54:07 AM
Quote from: BusFan94 on December 04, 2016, 11:49:59 AM
On the 301 and 302 when drivers board the bus going to the garage do they have to pay fare or use passes or do they get on for free.

I'm assuming you mean NX staff. If they're in uniform they can just walk on, if not I believe they can use some type of company ID to get on. Bus travel is free for company employees.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on December 04, 2016, 03:18:00 PM
Yeah NXWM drivers I meant.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 04, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Ive seen Diamond drivers let on free as well.

(Guess Diamond return the favour to NX as well!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 04, 2016, 10:03:45 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 28, 2016, 09:51:02 AM
1750, 1751, 1753, 1754, 1755 and 1756 are also branded.

Why not 1752 as well?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on December 04, 2016, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 04, 2016, 10:02:25 PM
Ive seen Diamond drivers let on free as well.

(Guess Diamond return the favour to NX as well!)

Yup. Social Travel also let drivers on. Caught it from AG garage to Sarehole Mill many times
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on December 04, 2016, 11:46:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 04, 2016, 10:03:45 PM
Why not 1752 as well?

I assume 1752 is also branded. But I haven't seen it myself yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on December 05, 2016, 10:19:04 AM
Quote from: MW on December 04, 2016, 10:14:19 PM
Caught it from AG garage to Sarehole Mill many times

Ah, yes, lovely Sarehole, best anagram in the neighbourhood!  :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on December 05, 2016, 01:41:53 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on December 05, 2016, 10:19:04 AM
Ah, yes, lovely Sarehole, best anagram in the neighbourhood!  :P

Haha, I've never actually thought of that!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on December 06, 2016, 08:14:44 AM
WA 4356 on rt41 dep Walsall 8:15 willenhall arr 9:04 dep 9:18 Walsall arr 10:02
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on December 06, 2016, 04:29:07 PM
Seen it today around 15:25 at the Homestead followed by 4352 on the 701 seen around two minutes after 4356
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 07, 2016, 06:53:16 PM
Has 4599 been 10 branded, or will it receive the gold ticket branding?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on December 07, 2016, 06:56:02 PM
Quote from: John on December 07, 2016, 06:53:16 PM
Has 4599 been 10 branded, or will it receive the gold ticket branding?

It's 10/10A branded iirc.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 07, 2016, 09:05:42 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 07, 2016, 06:56:02 PM
It's 10/10A branded iirc.

Thanks. Hadn't seen it for a while
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 10, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
Anyone seen the serious allegation re one of the 51 drivers on the NX Facebook page.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on December 10, 2016, 09:46:18 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 10, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
Anyone seen the serious allegation re one of the 51 drivers on the NX Facebook page.
Quote from: Westy on December 10, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
Anyone seen the serious allegation re one of the 51 drivers on the NX Facebook page.

Sounds like they bought wrong ticket then came up with pack of lies once they got caught. It's passengers responsibility to check their ticket plus if the discussion really was going on for 4 minutes can you blame the driver for fobbing them off?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on December 10, 2016, 10:00:25 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 10, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
Anyone seen the serious allegation re one of the 51 drivers on the NX Facebook page.

How would another passenger know it was an autistic child? Autism is not always obvious, so he cannot determine that the child -is- autistic by judging the book cover. I doubt the driver would "collude" with an inspector over how late he was... I suspect the writer of the post got caught on the bus for something and may have vented his anger about something entirely irrelevant to him.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: jc on December 13, 2016, 06:21:51 PM
4346 present at Yardley Wood on the pits yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2016, 08:26:28 PM
Never realised the 40/41 was withdrawn?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on December 18, 2016, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2016, 08:26:28 PM
Never realised the 40/41 was withdrawn?

... 40 Wolverhampton to Willenhall withdrawn and the other part Willenhall to Walsall is now the 37 Willenhall to Walsall via Darlaston

41 upped to every 20 mins

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on December 18, 2016, 08:45:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2016, 08:26:28 PM
Never realised the 40/41 was withdrawn?

You're nearly 5 months too late... ::)

The 37 is Walsall - Willenhall, same route as the old 333. 41 is every 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2016, 08:55:56 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 18, 2016, 08:45:11 PM
You're nearly 5 months too late... ::)

The 37 is Walsall - Willenhall, same route as the old 333. 41 is every 20 minutes.

Thankyou both, shows how little I know about that area
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 18, 2016, 10:33:46 PM
Must admit I'm surprised the loadings have gone up enough for NX to start the majority of an evening & Sunday service on the 41.

When was the last time WMT(as was!) did evening & Sunday 341's (as was!)?

Must be sometime in the 90's!

(Did they ever do the 342?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Walsall1955 on December 19, 2016, 07:16:09 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 18, 2016, 10:33:46 PM
Must admit I'm surprised the loadings have gone up enough for NX to start the majority of an evening & Sunday service on the 41.

When was the last time WMT(as was!) did evening & Sunday 341's (as was!)?

Must be sometime in the 90's!

(Did they ever do the 342?)

It might have been 1992 when WMT were replaced by Choice Travel on the evenings + Sundays 341 as following photos were both taken on Sundays in 1992:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5614591404/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/16196236410/in/photolist-qFcWPm-ejXZp4-ihekfj-iiBoD2-iiABHx-cr72Ss-bKg6pp-brxrz4-b23Zkz-aCDd4f-aoVijH-9G3NXV-9AZkvR-9AfCri-9weUG6-agukNq-9uyT6A-9y9fq5-9fpxVH-9jnNYD-9ciUSF-8CETP7-8u4LGt-8o8Fnu-7WyRVi-hVBRnL-9vidMG-v8qmxj

At a later stage evenings and Sundays 341 became 342 as passengers wanted an evening and Sunday 364 service (to mirror daytime Chase 364) - what they got instead was withdrawal of 341 evenings and Sundays buses from Lane Head and Bloxwich Road North to provide a 342 via Beechdale and Leamore Lane.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 19, 2016, 07:57:06 PM
Did Wmt / Twm use that Centro blind much?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Walsall1955 on December 20, 2016, 09:13:51 AM
Quote from: Westy on December 19, 2016, 07:57:06 PM
Did Wmt / Twm use that Centro blind much?

Not often in my recollection, but here's another example (and I'm not sure if the service concerned actually was subsidised:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/7288344612/in/photolist-kcxzAG-jKMrqG-c73EW1-bTbDbH-bv83jZ-aPKx3F-aCD8n9-9qAQWo-8NNbmh-8tH8gk-8qrafK-8qrafP-8hGrfn-8hEf1u-8fwGJf-aEFStu-bGJqV4


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 21, 2016, 06:55:44 AM
4870 covering the 2nd from Cannock X51 this morning.

(Normally a Platty!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on December 22, 2016, 12:31:09 PM
I have heard rumours that WA37 is to be withdrawn.  Any comments?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on December 22, 2016, 12:53:14 PM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on December 22, 2016, 12:31:09 PM
I have heard rumours that WA37 is to be withdrawn.  Any comments?
Not Surprised they didn't get many Passengers on the Service The 41 was beating it Passenger Wise along with Sandwell Travel's 333X having to commute to Willenhall alot meant I could see the loadings on the 37 there was about3 to 5 people on it no need to put Omnilink on it put E200's which I have seen on there before on it still nowhere near full.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 22, 2016, 01:07:52 PM
Lets hope nothing happens to Sandwell Travel then!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 26, 2016, 03:01:13 PM
Popping down Walsall today, it looks the 301 & 302 are using the Saturday allocation of vehicles on the Sunday service.

I've spotted an E400 & 2 43xx Tridents alongside a usual branded B7Lre on that corridor.

(No Diamonds on this corridor today unlike normal!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on December 26, 2016, 05:59:55 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 26, 2016, 03:01:13 PM
Popping down Walsall today, it looks the 301 & 302 are using the Saturday allocation of vehicles on the Sunday service.

I've spotted an E400 & 2 43xx Tridents alongside a usual branded B7Lre on that corridor.

(No Diamonds on this corridor today unlike normal!)

I think the allocation today was deckers due to Diamond not being out in Walsall at all today (which is why the 29 also had a Trident). The branded B7RLE was a change bus for 4735.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 31, 2016, 01:33:51 PM
There will be a rare working tomorrow with Walsall garage operating the 10:20 420 Wolverhampton - London journey

It is very rare for NXWM coaches to operate into Wolverhampton & Dudley (10:40) Bus Stations.

The same coach will then do the 15:30 410 service London - Wolverhampton via Walsall arriving in Wolverhampton at 19:05
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 31, 2016, 01:37:41 PM
Are you driving it @Tony ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 31, 2016, 01:40:58 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 31, 2016, 01:37:41 PM
Are you driving it @Tony ?

How did you guess!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 31, 2016, 01:46:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 31, 2016, 01:40:58 PM
How did you guess!

Can think of better ways of spending New Years Day than being stuck on the M1 and all that traffic in London @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on January 01, 2017, 12:10:28 AM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 31, 2016, 01:46:07 PM
Can think of better ways of spending New Years Day than being stuck on the M1 and all that traffic in London @Tony

Depends on which route he will be taking to get into and out of Victoria tbh...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on January 02, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 02, 2017, 02:30:02 PM
WA 857 on the 7, 14:28 Walton Road Aldridge

@Kevin, just to let you know that the Enviro 200 is the booked type on the 7 on Sundays. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 02, 2017, 04:43:41 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 02, 2017, 02:58:06 PM
@Kevin, just to let you know that the Enviro 200 is the booked type on the 7 on Sundays. :)

Changed recently then, had Platinums only like a month ago
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on January 02, 2017, 06:20:54 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 02, 2017, 04:43:41 PM
Changed recently then, had Platinums only like a month ago

It's Saturday's that it's platinum mate, e200 on Sunday though it's often Scania or b7rle
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on January 03, 2017, 08:34:36 PM
Is 4329 off the road or have repairs done ? I haven't seen it for 1-2months
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 03, 2017, 08:36:53 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on January 03, 2017, 08:34:36 PM
Is 4329 off the road or have repairs done ? I haven't seen it for 1-2months

Currently away having engine repairs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on January 05, 2017, 09:44:49 AM
1760 on rt70 dep Walsall 9:45
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 06, 2017, 06:55:04 AM
4869 covering the board that includes the second x51 Cannock journey.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on January 06, 2017, 08:15:43 AM
4154 on rt70 left Walsall 8:10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on January 06, 2017, 08:40:50 AM
1848 crimson omnilinks on rt29 dep 8:42 Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on January 06, 2017, 03:59:00 PM
Today as I walking along Darlaston Road in Darlaston I went Past A&R Veichels Services due to the footpath being blocked by a lorry parked up going to the Housing Development on the old Servis Factory land I saw a NXWM Dennis Trident and was wondering were it was from after reading about 4329 having engine repairs  I was wondering is it there and I thought WA would have repaired it at the garage  but it might have been another Trident I was to far away to get a Fleet Number or reg but just wondering why it was there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 06, 2017, 04:08:06 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on January 06, 2017, 03:59:00 PM
Today as I walking along Darlaston Road in Darlaston I went Past A&R Veichels Services due to the footpath being blocked by a lorry parked up going to the Housing Development on the old Servis Factory land I saw a NXWM Dennis Trident and was wondering were it was from after reading about 4329 having body damage I was wondering is it there and I thought WA had a Body Shop but it might have been another Trident I was to far away to get a Fleet Number or reg but just wondering why it was there

Where have you read 4329 has body damage?

It hasn't and that is not  4329
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on January 06, 2017, 04:26:41 PM
I wonder if it's getting steam cleaned from underneath?

Is it Birmingham garages only that use the place near BC?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on January 07, 2017, 11:00:11 AM
Quote from: MW on January 06, 2017, 04:26:41 PM
I wonder if it's getting steam cleaned from underneath?

Is it Birmingham garages only that use the place near BC?

Walsall was jetwashing the platinums the other night
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 09, 2017, 06:55:20 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 06, 2017, 06:55:04 AM
4869 covering the board that includes the second x51 Cannock journey.

And again this morning. Are we short of a Platty at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on January 09, 2017, 11:33:52 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 09, 2017, 06:55:20 AM
And again this morning. Are we short of a Platty at Walsall?

Aren't there 40 buses for 40 running boards? So if there's one off the road, then you're short.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on January 09, 2017, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: Gareth on January 09, 2017, 11:33:52 AM
Aren't there 40 buses for 40 running boards? So if there's one off the road, then you're short.

Something like that, at one point WA was potentially have a 1 or 2 of BC's 15 plate Platinum's to allow for spares, but obviously plans changed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 10, 2017, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: Gareth on January 09, 2017, 11:33:52 AM
Aren't there 40 buses for 40 running boards? So if there's one off the road, then you're short.

Wouldn't be sure now.
My usual bus home (I say usual, only when I actually go home from work as opposed via somewhere else) 18:35 X51 from city appears to be a regular non Platinum,  and from what I can tell so is the Boney Hay 937
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 10, 2017, 08:33:03 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 10, 2017, 06:59:27 PM
Wouldn't be sure now.
My usual bus home (I say usual, only when I actually go home from work as opposed via somewhere else) 18:35 X51 from city appears to be a regular non Platinum,  and from what I can tell so is the Boney Hay 937

The Boney Hay 937 is hardly ever a Platinum. Most of the time it's a 47** or 48** (or occasionally a Trident).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 11, 2017, 07:24:33 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 10, 2017, 08:33:03 PM
The Boney Hay 937 is hardly ever a Platinum. Most of the time it's a 47** or 48** (or occasionally a Trident).

Is it on a Platinum board though or does it come off another route like the old X56? I know that particular X51 is a peak bus so likely whatever available in garage at the time, but still I think all journeys on that board are city expresses so should be a Platinum bus
The one morning run on X51 into Brum is a 51 board so I'll let that one slide
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 11, 2017, 08:30:03 AM
Quote from: Kevin on January 11, 2017, 07:24:33 AM
Is it on a Platinum board though or does it come off another route like the old X56? I know that particular X51 is a peak bus so likely whatever available in garage at the time, but still I think all journeys on that board are city expresses so should be a Platinum bus
The one morning run on X51 into Brum is a 51 board so I'll let that one slide

It's a peak Streetly board (934/24). Does the 159C school first and then 937 from Aldridge to Birmingham before doing the Boney Hay.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on January 11, 2017, 09:11:09 AM
Thing is, its quite unlikely all 40 Platinum buses will be out on the road together at any 1 time. I've visited a number of garages during my time and I've always noted the engineering bays always have a variety of buses seeking some form of attention and invariably at WA this will include Platinums as after the OmniLinks they are the most populous bus type at WA.
It's like saying at AG if all the 11 branded Geminis (I believe their to be 36) can be on the 11 at any 1 point as PVR I believe to be over 40 (Please don't quote me on this). Their is a minute chance of that being a reality but you wouldn't put a bet on it.
It's not just about being looked engineering wise, I believe it was mentioned on here a while back that buses once a month a steam cleaned (Or some other type of deep cleaning) so I believe they are out of action for a day and especially with Platinums chances are they might be used for private hire jobs as some customers may prefer a "better" vehicle.

This is merely what I've observed/ noted from seeing garages work and whatnot. I'm happy to be correctly informed if im wrong  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 12, 2017, 06:52:07 PM
1845 A51 journey from Rugeley to Walsall (19:30) is being operated by 4350 freshly repainted red/white
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on January 12, 2017, 08:20:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 12, 2017, 06:52:07 PM
1845 A51 journey from Rugeley to Walsall (19:30) is being operated by 4350 freshly repainted red/white

Tony, why has 435o been freshly re-painted red / white, I though all re-paints were crimson?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 12, 2017, 08:56:31 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on January 12, 2017, 08:20:02 PM
Tony, why has 435o been freshly re-painted red / white, I though all re-paints were crimson?

4425 and over receive Crimson. 4350 was a bit of a state at PN
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on January 13, 2017, 01:36:50 PM
4357 in the entrance to the paint shop not long ago. Having its ad removed? Possible repaint even?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on January 16, 2017, 06:42:05 PM
Anyone know why I saw 51 Branded Envrio 400 near Tesco Willenhall I then followed it after filling up my car the Bus then turned right towards the McDonald's island and then turned left onto the 529 route seen it around 08:30AM
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on January 16, 2017, 07:46:44 PM
Coming from school routes

700 Ryecroft  -  Grace Academy, Darlaston
701 Leamore - Thomas Moore School, Willenhall
703 New Invention - Thomas Moore School, Willenhall

any of these would bring a bus to that point operating back to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 17, 2017, 07:26:15 PM
Quote from: chris123 on January 17, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
934/23 a usual ALX working.

@chris123 really? Usually a Platinum whenever I see it, the 18:35 ex city seems to always be non Platinum but not this one. Anyone else clarify?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: chris123 on January 17, 2017, 07:32:46 PM
I know it was a ALX last week. Could be wrong then, I know its a PM peak bus off a school bus probably.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 17, 2017, 07:41:08 PM
Quote from: chris123 on January 17, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
934/23 a usual ALX working.

Wrong. 4326 was on X51/24, not 934/23 (which departs on an X51 at 18:35, not 18:25). 934/23 was an E40D today. Secondly there is no "usual ALX working" on Platinum routes. All are supposed to be Platinum's or Enviro 400's. 934/23 isn't usually an ALX400 anyway. For the past few week's I have seen it, it's been an Enviro 400 of some kind. Thirdly 934/23 does not do a school. It start's as an X51 at 15:30 from Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: chris123 on January 17, 2017, 08:24:51 PM
How do you guys all know the times and boards etc? Is it still out?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on January 17, 2017, 09:21:25 PM
He used to work at Walsall until he got sacked @Dom
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on January 17, 2017, 09:27:40 PM
Quote from: chris123 on January 17, 2017, 07:03:08 PM
934/23 a usual ALX working.

Actually, it was on X51/24... And it is usually a Platinum, so 4326 was a noteworthy.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: chris123 on January 17, 2017, 09:33:17 PM
And how do you know its X51/24?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on January 17, 2017, 10:30:13 PM
Would I be right in saying that WA has the most "parking" capacity of any of the garages ?

I say this because they house like 179 buses (Going off the fleet summary) and they have a number of trainer vehicles and coaches not to mention they also process the vehicles for paint/ refubs. However I get the feeling BC may rival or even exceed WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 17, 2017, 11:11:17 PM
Since the Darlaston changes last year, has anyone see a bus displaying Bilston 39?

I've seen buses display Bilston 39E, but the 39E doesnt technically exist now does it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on January 18, 2017, 08:03:27 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 17, 2017, 11:11:17 PM
Since the Darlaston changes last year, has anyone see a bus displaying Bilston 39?

I've seen buses display Bilston 39E, but the 39E doesnt technically exist now does it?

Yes, several of them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 18, 2017, 11:10:25 AM
Does it matter what running board it is
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on January 18, 2017, 04:39:49 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 17, 2017, 11:11:17 PM
Since the Darlaston changes last year, has anyone see a bus displaying Bilston 39?

I've seen buses display Bilston 39E, but the 39E doesnt technically exist now does it?
Seen one today there seemed to be one driver who always put 39E up but he's stopped it now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on January 18, 2017, 07:27:22 PM
Drivers can only put up what's programmed into the blinds
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on January 26, 2017, 07:43:49 PM
Some request for views on changing the route of the x51 into the city.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on January 26, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on January 26, 2017, 07:43:49 PM
Some request for views on changing the route of the x51 into the city.
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/x51-possible-route-change-we-want-your-views-
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on January 26, 2017, 08:16:21 PM
Quote from: 2206 on January 26, 2017, 07:50:48 PM
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-change/x51-possible-route-change-we-want-your-views-
That's similar to the diversionary route (other than the tunnel part) that's used when there's any running/cycling/farting & jumping events in town. I've got no preference really as I don't very often catch the x51 but surely it would be quicker at peaks and other busy times like Christmas. It does, however, make you wonder if other routes would use dale end/newton st if the x51 started using them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 26, 2017, 08:53:18 PM
I don't see a need for this change. The X51 did this about 3 years ago (not the tunnel part, Newton Street) and it got rerouted to follow the 51. It will just get stuck in the traffic after the tunnel, as does the current route.

If they do reroute the X51 then they can reroute the 9** Platnium routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 27, 2017, 07:28:01 AM
I see the need. And to be fair I see the need for it in both directions, not many people really use the Children's hospital stop outbound and peak buses are regularly going past there without stopping as it is because they're too full
It would make the route more attractive tbf, save queuing at Lancaster Circus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on January 31, 2017, 02:04:37 PM
4352 is on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on February 02, 2017, 08:25:22 AM
1762 on rt10/A dep Walsall rt10 8:45
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on February 03, 2017, 08:37:12 AM
4357 on rt7 dep Walsall 8:40
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 04, 2017, 03:51:43 PM
1837 on route training for new 4H
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on February 04, 2017, 10:34:54 PM
Now, now leave the Walsall garage alone now it does the Hayley green circular
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 05, 2017, 10:08:33 PM
Quote from: Chris on February 04, 2017, 10:34:54 PM
Now, now leave the Walsall garage alone now it does the Hayley green circular

Saw my friend from work's sister, who normally switches between the 11/13, the 4's & helping with the training.

I asked her, had she got her A to Z for Hayley Green!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 07, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
Sods law or what.

When you want to get home asap & hoping for an 11 or Thandi 311, you always get a 13 or Thandi 313, which goes via the Myvod!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on February 14, 2017, 05:49:59 PM
How come I saw platinums on school services & then non platinum  on  platinums services
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 14, 2017, 05:55:25 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on February 14, 2017, 05:49:59 PM
How come I saw platinums on school services & then non platinum  on  platinums services

Because the school services probably go onto Platinum routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 14, 2017, 11:34:53 PM
Can't believe you put the Plats on the school routes?

Do the little darlings behave themselves?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on February 15, 2017, 04:23:22 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 14, 2017, 11:34:53 PM
Can't believe you put the Plats on the school routes?

Do the little darlings behave themselves?
Judging from seeing the 700 in Walsall a few days ago yes most of them are on there phone.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 18, 2017, 01:25:47 PM
Red and white b7rle on 4. May be of some interest considering most now repainted
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 18, 2017, 01:47:02 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 18, 2017, 01:25:47 PM
Red and white b7rle on 4. May be of some interest considering most now repainted

You're going to have to start being more specific as Walsall have both types of B7RLE now, Eclipse Urban and Eclipse 2 ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 18, 2017, 03:20:19 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 18, 2017, 01:47:02 PM
You're going to have to start being more specific as Walsall have both types of B7RLE now, Eclipse Urban and Eclipse 2 ;)

Knew someone would say that 😉. Eclipse 2 haven't been repainted yet though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on February 18, 2017, 04:52:39 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 18, 2017, 03:20:19 PM
Knew someone would say that 😉. Eclipse 2 haven't been repainted yet though.

And a couple of b7rles Eclipse 1s ain't done... and I do look forward to the Eclipse 2s being repainted though hopefully they will be started soon but there are a ton of scanias to be done first!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 18, 2017, 07:08:46 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 18, 2017, 01:25:47 PM
Red and white b7rle on 4. May be of some interest considering most now repainted

Saw 1762 on 4H in West Brom about an hour or so ago.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 18, 2017, 07:24:51 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on February 18, 2017, 07:08:46 PM
Saw 1762 on 4H in West Brom about an hour or so ago.

I must say I do like the older seating in the URBANS.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 19, 2017, 11:33:10 AM
Just out of interest does anyone know if the mk2 eclipse have been approved for 34,37,39 as they don't have the pods on roof? @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on February 20, 2017, 08:27:24 AM
WA 4376 on rt8 dep Walsall 8:25 & WA 4337 on rt6 dep 8:25
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 20, 2017, 01:17:56 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on February 19, 2017, 11:33:10 AM
Just out of interest does anyone know if the mk2 eclipse have been approved for 34,37,39 as they don't have the pods on roof? @Tony

Would have thought to keep it simple is to keep both types off anyway!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on February 25, 2017, 07:38:48 PM
WA 1752 on rt10 dep Walsall 19:40 & another 301/2 branded one on rt10 aswell
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 25, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
Quote from: Wright liberator on February 25, 2017, 07:38:48 PM
WA 1752 on rt10 dep Walsall 19:40 & another 301/2 branded one on rt10 aswell

1753, as noted in the Route Branded Buses Off Route thread (here (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=1567.msg208287#msg208287)), @Wright liberator. 1752 is still out on the late 6/10s.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 27, 2017, 09:33:41 PM
4329 back out this evening, first time out since breaking down on vfest in August!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 28, 2017, 01:26:30 PM
@Tony Was the 2nd Cannock X51 running late this morning?

Had to catch Arriva instead!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 28, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 28, 2017, 01:26:30 PM
@Tony Was the 2nd Cannock X51 running late this morning?

Had to catch Arriva instead!

It was only 6 late in Bloxwich, was right time leaving Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on February 28, 2017, 02:37:17 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on February 27, 2017, 09:33:41 PM
4329 back out this evening, first time out since breaking down on vfest in August!

4329 is on the 10/10A today. Nice to see it back on road after so long.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 28, 2017, 05:50:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2017, 01:40:22 PM
It was only 6 late in Bloxwich, was right time leaving Walsall

That would be right as Arriva turned the corner at Wisemore around 8 after 7, the X51 rolled up from the Green Lane junction.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2017, 05:52:36 PM
Quick question: @Nathan reported e200 on 4/4M. Does the 4H not Interwork with them anymore?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 28, 2017, 06:04:14 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2017, 05:52:36 PM
Quick question: @Nathan reported e200 on 4/4M. Does the 4H not Interwork with them anymore?

During the day buses stay on one of the 4, 4H or 4M, there is a bit of interworking in peaks, but I haven't noticed any board that does both a 4H and a 4M
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 28, 2017, 06:12:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 28, 2017, 06:04:14 PM
During the day buses stay on one of the 4, 4H or 4M, there is a bit of interworking in peaks, but I haven't noticed any board that does both a 4H and a 4M

Oh right thanks tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 01, 2017, 12:29:32 PM
NX 4H now gone to pot. The curse of Hayley green.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 01, 2017, 12:41:02 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 01, 2017, 12:29:32 PM
NX 4H now gone to pot. The curse of Hayley green.
Are you sure it's not you that's on the pot?

Every 4H has run today, up until 11:30, they were all on time, Between 11:30 and 12:30 they suffered delays of 10 minutes getting into Halesowen from Blackheath. The 12:36 to Hayley Green is on time.

I supposed your beloved blue buses didn't get stuck in this traffic and all ran on time in that hour
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 01, 2017, 12:45:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 01, 2017, 12:41:02 PM
Are you sure it's not you that's on the pot?

Best. Reply. Ever.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 01, 2017, 01:08:13 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 01, 2017, 12:41:02 PM
Are you sure it's not you that's on the pot?

Every 4H has run today, up until 11:30, they were all on time, Between 11:30 and 12:30 they suffered delays of 10 minutes getting into Halesowen from Blackheath. The 12:36 to Hayley Green is on time.

I supposed your beloved blue buses didn't get stuck in this traffic and all ran on time in that hour

Are those roadworks still on just outside Halesowen?

When I was on a Diamond the other week, had to wait ages there.

It put the bus behind so much, he kicked us all off at the bus stop before West Brom Bus Station!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on March 01, 2017, 03:24:45 PM
Yes stop and go boards bottom of Coombs wood by tesco express
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 01, 2017, 04:55:23 PM
Is it a coincidence that they are using Crimson buses on 4H too?

The beloved blues put on their toos and were only running 2-5 mins late


Driver training still going on on the 4H. Got on one today and it was painfully slow, whilst 3087* went flying past.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on March 01, 2017, 10:51:04 PM
Why shouldn't a crimson be on 4H?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 02:33:35 PM
4H drivers have to keep asking passengers for directions. And you can't tell me they are running on time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 03:17:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 02:33:35 PM
4H drivers have to keep asking passengers for directions. And you can't tell me they are running on time

No, can't tell you anything!

Yes all late due to getting stuck in traffic between Oldbury & Blackheath, and Blackheath & Halesowen delaying BOTH operators
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 04:24:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 03:17:03 PM
No, can't tell you anything!

Yes all late due to getting stuck in traffic between Oldbury & Blackheath, and Blackheath & Halesowen delaying BOTH operators

Strange how diamond running bang on time though!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 04:34:53 PM
Really?

Checked every running board have you
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 03, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 04:34:53 PM
Really?

Checked every running board have you

Tracks them from the power of his crystal ball, got it for £2 from Oldbury market
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 04:42:21 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 04:34:53 PM
Really?

Checked every running board have you

Pretty much yes. Something called sampling. When the four diamond 4Hs are running with pinpoint accuracy then I presume the rest of them are also running on time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 04:50:03 PM
You're talking rubbish. diamond haven't got wings. How do you know what time each bus was due? How do you know it wasn't the one in front running on the next one's time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 03, 2017, 04:54:24 PM
Quote from: Dom on March 03, 2017, 04:41:58 PM
Tracks them from the power of his crystal ball, got it for £2 from Oldbury market

Oldbury is the only option for residents of Hasbury these days, as all the buses now go there...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 04:50:03 PM
You're talking rubbish. diamond haven't got wings. How do you know what time each bus was due? How do you know it wasn't the one in front running on the next one's time

Please just take my word for it. You go to west brom or blackheath and check the departures of 4H please. Oh wait you can't tell your just presuming diamond are Late. Diamond have different time tabling??

True that @Winston went on a crimson b7rle today and there quite good.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
Please just take my word for it. You go to west brom or blackheath and check the departures of 4H please. Oh wait you can't tell your just presuming diamond are Late. Diamond have different time tabling??



Diamond have 2 extra minutes in their timetable. I know they're not on time, because they are not overtaking the NXWM buses which are being delayed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 05:15:37 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 05:08:06 PM
Diamond have 2 extra minutes in their timetable. I know they're not on time, because they are not overtaking the NXWM buses which are being delayed

How do you know there not overtaking NX?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 05:19:11 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 05:15:37 PM
How do you know there not overtaking NX?

For every Diamond to be on time this afternoon every NXWM bus would have had to be overtaken by two Diamond ones, every Diamond bus would have had to overtake two NXWM buses just between Oldbury and Halesowen. Ask one of our drivers if he was overtaken - No was the answer
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 05:22:46 PM
This is the situation at 17:00

Due the ongoing roadworks and temporary lights on Muntz Street causing congestion around Green Lane and Small Heath, the following delays are occuring;
Service 8A - up to 45 minutes
Service 8C - up to 50 minutes
Service 17 - up to 60 minutes
Service 58,59,60 - up to 30 minutes
Due to roadworks on Newbury Lane reducing it down to one lane towards Wolverhampton, the following delays are occuring;
Service 126 - up to 35 minutes
Due to a sink hole appearing on Bristol Road at Selly Oak reducing it by one lane, there is heavy congestion in the area. We are experiencing the following delays;
Service X61,63 - up to 45 minutes
Due to congestion across the network, we are experiencing the following delays;
Service 45,47 - up to 45 minutes
Service 27 - up to 40 minutes
Service 35 - up to 40 minutes
Service 50 - up to 30 minutes
Service X3,X4,X5 - up to 25 minutes
Service 11A,11C - up to 30 minutes
Service 11,13 - up to 25 minutes (Walsall)
Service 4,4H,4M - up to 35 minutes (Walsall)
Service 42,43,44,47,47A - up to 30 minutes (West Bromwich)
Service 120,140,127,128,129 - up to 35 minutes

Perhaps you can explain how Diamond would possibly avoid the congestion causing the delays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 05:30:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 05:19:11 PM
For every Diamond to be on time this afternoon every NXWM bus would have had to be overtaken by two Diamond ones, every Diamond bus would have had to overtake two NXWM buses just between Oldbury and Halesowen. Ask one of our drivers if he was overtaken - No was the answer

I can't explain it-  NX carry more people between blackheath and Walsall. Bunching would mean lots of passengers get on one bus.

How late was 1771?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 05:30:18 PM
I can't explain it-  NX carry more people between blackheath and Walsall. Bunching would mean lots of passengers get on one bus.

How late was 1771?

You don't know? so how do you know which other Diamond & NX are not on time?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 06:18:26 PM
You don't know? so how do you know which other Diamond & NX are not on time?

Well I presumed 1771 was 4-5 mins late which is not bad- if case diamond could easily stay on time
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on March 03, 2017, 06:30:19 PM
@Tony it is pointless arguing  with him he will keep being Adamant that Diamond are on time when I agree with you Tony you work for NXWM after all unless @Trident 4194 you work for Diamond how do you know that every single Diamond service is  on time unless of course they are  doing illegal things. While on the 4H 4M

Back on Topic do you know @Tony  if sometimes buses on the 34/37/39  Swap  with buses on  the 4H/4M because sometimes E200's have been found on the 34/37/39 and also does say for example 1894 work a 34/37/39 and then work a 4H or 4M journey or does it go onto to the 11 and 13.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 03, 2017, 06:34:27 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 03, 2017, 04:54:24 PM
Oldbury is the only option for residents of Hasbury these days, as all the buses now go there...

They just don't understand how to change buses to get to Dudley market.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 03, 2017, 06:36:42 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on March 03, 2017, 06:30:19 PM
@Tony it is pointless arguing  with him he will keep being Adamant that Diamond are on time when I agree with you Tony you work for NXWM after all unless @Trident 4194 you work for Diamond how do you know that every single Diamond service is  on time unless of course they are  doing illegal things. While on the 4H 4M

Back on Topic do you know @Tony  if sometimes buses on the 34/37/39  Swap  with buses on  the 4H/4M because sometimes E200's have been found on the 34/37/39 and also does say for example 1894 work a 34/37/39 and then work a 4H or 4M journey or does it go onto to the 11 and 13.

None of them, it stays on the 34,37,39.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 03, 2017, 06:57:56 PM
Quote from: Dom on March 03, 2017, 06:34:27 PM
They just don't understand how to change buses to get to Dudley market.

They just don't want to change, its not convenient, takes longer over a direct service & you get charged twice for the privledge.....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 07:05:07 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 03, 2017, 06:57:56 PM
They just don't want to change, its not convenient, takes longer over a direct service & you get charged twice for the privledge.....

£3.00 return (75p per bus?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 03, 2017, 07:12:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 07:05:07 PM
£3.00 return (75p per bus?)

That's only a recent development & may apply in this example but won't apply to the people that currently use the 99 where that route is being split.

No one wants to mess around changing buses to destinations that are only 5-6 miles away, especially this time of year.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 03, 2017, 07:12:35 PM
That's only a recent development & may apply in this example but won't apply to the people that currently use the 99 where that route is being split.

No one wants to mess around changing buses to destinations that are only 5-6 miles away, especially this time of year.

£3 day ticket what a genius. Shame there's not a special ticket for the Birmingham area from the Black Country.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 03, 2017, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
£3 day ticket what a genius. Shame there's not a special ticket for the Birmingham area from the Black Country.

There is, but as distances tend to be longer it's £4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 03, 2017, 07:37:28 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 03, 2017, 07:16:32 PM
£3 day ticket what a genius. Shame there's not a special ticket for the Birmingham area from the Black Country.
[/b]

*Facepalm*

Have you never heard of a Daysaver? You know that ticket that gives you travel for a full day in the Birmingham area and the Black Country.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 03, 2017, 07:43:24 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 03, 2017, 06:57:56 PM
They just don't want to change, its not convenient, takes longer over a direct service & you get charged twice for the privledge.....
[/b]

Convenience is a good point but it's not convenient that I have to change in Dudley to get West Bromwich from Coseley isn't really very convenient with getting to college but I get on with it, it's life. I've quite often gone around Hayley Green on the 244 and a majority of passengers either use/buy a Daysaver or have a concession pass, so don't really get charged twice. The fact that it is cheaper to get a daysaver than two adult singles also makes that point redundant.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on March 03, 2017, 07:57:11 PM
Quote from: Dom on March 03, 2017, 07:43:24 PM
[/b]

Convenience is a good point but it's not convenient that I have to change in Dudley to get West Bromwich from Coseley isn't really very convenient with getting to college but I get on with it, it's life. I've quite often gone around Hayley Green on the 244 and a majority of passengers either use/buy a Daysaver or have a concession pass, so don't really get charged twice. The fact that it is cheaper to get a daysaver than two adult singles also makes that point redundant.

You have no other alternative. Unless you get a scooter due to your age.

My point isn't redundant, as you're wrongly assuming I would be making a return journey. One way previously £2.40 now £3.

People just want to get from A from to B as quick as possible, it will not encourage people to use bus services when they have to travel A - B then B - C for a journey that was previously direct. As shown by all the recorded service delays Tony posted further up the thread, it will be impossible to make a quick connection at certain times of the day without a long wait in between.

Yes, I've noticed all your reports from Hayley Green. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 03, 2017, 08:35:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 03, 2017, 05:22:46 PM
This is the situation at 17:00

Due the ongoing roadworks and temporary lights on Muntz Street causing congestion around Green Lane and Small Heath, the following delays are occuring;
Service 8A - up to 45 minutes
Service 8C - up to 50 minutes
Service 17 - up to 60 minutes
Service 58,59,60 - up to 30 minutes
Due to roadworks on Newbury Lane reducing it down to one lane towards Wolverhampton, the following delays are occuring;
Service 126 - up to 35 minutes
Due to a sink hole appearing on Bristol Road at Selly Oak reducing it by one lane, there is heavy congestion in the area. We are experiencing the following delays;
Service X61,63 - up to 45 minutes
Due to congestion across the network, we are experiencing the following delays;
Service 45,47 - up to 45 minutes
Service 27 - up to 40 minutes
Service 35 - up to 40 minutes
Service 50 - up to 30 minutes
Service X3,X4,X5 - up to 25 minutes
Service 11A,11C - up to 30 minutes
Service 11,13 - up to 25 minutes (Walsall)
Service 4,4H,4M - up to 35 minutes (Walsall)
Service 42,43,44,47,47A - up to 30 minutes (West Bromwich)
Service 120,140,127,128,129 - up to 35 minutes

Perhaps you can explain how Diamond would possibly avoid the congestion causing the delays

Must admit I was lucky with the bus from Wednesbury Parkway for a change, but there was an 11 & 13 running together at that point & god knows where Thandi was as usual!
(I was with a woman who works on the same estate as me, for a different company, but her hubby is a PB driver on the Sutton rota!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on March 03, 2017, 11:23:51 PM
Quote from: Dom on March 03, 2017, 07:43:24 PM
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Convenience is a good point but it's not convenient that I have to change in Dudley to get West Bromwich from Coseley isn't really very convenient with getting to college but I get on with it, it's life. I've quite often gone around Hayley Green on the 244 and a majority of passengers either use/buy a Daysaver or have a concession pass, so don't really get charged twice. The fact that it is cheaper to get a daysaver than two adult singles also makes that point redundant.

It may not be convenient @Dom , but it has always been like that, we are discussing where a route is being chopped in half and people (many people because when i have been on the 99, a lot of people travel from one side of the QE to the other) are to be inconvenienced.

I am sure if there was a real need for a service between West Bromwich and Coseley, one would have been invented by now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on March 03, 2017, 11:31:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on March 03, 2017, 07:12:35 PM
That's only a recent development & may apply in this example but won't apply to the people that currently use the 99 where that route is being split.

No one wants to mess around changing buses to destinations that are only 5-6 miles away, especially this time of year.

Exactly, Tony said in the PN thread that the 99 was a profitable route, but then he said it could not sustain adding another bus to the PVR, to me that either means it's not as profitable as they are saying or probably more to the point, they want to have a reliable service between City and the QE.

If I was @Simon Dunn , I would be thinking, maybe it's time for Diamond to give the 99 go??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on March 04, 2017, 08:28:18 AM
Quote from: Dom on March 03, 2017, 06:36:42 PM
None of them, it stays on the 34,37,39.

Ok Thanks they must rotate between the 37/34/39 as I knew it did only then and not the 4's or 11 and 13's as I thought they did
CAN WE GET BACK ONTO THE SUBJECT OF WALSALL GARAGE PLEASE
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 04, 2017, 08:35:05 AM
Quote from: BusFan94 on March 04, 2017, 08:28:18 AM
Ok Thanks they must rotate between the 37/34/39 and not the 4's or 11 and 13's as I thought they did
CAN WE GET BACK ONTO THE SUBJECT OF WALSALL GARAGE PLEASE

They do! It has been stated several times.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on March 04, 2017, 08:36:39 AM
Ok I knew they did I will edit my post to the according of what I knew
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 04, 2017, 08:42:32 AM
Quote from: BusFan94 on March 04, 2017, 08:36:39 AM
Ok I knew they did I will edit my post to the according of what I knew

Well you obviously didn't know it though did you.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on March 04, 2017, 08:47:11 AM
Quote from: BusFan94 on March 04, 2017, 08:36:39 AM
Ok I knew they did I will edit my post to the according of what I knew
Obviously you never knew. If you knew, why did you ask?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on March 04, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
Well I knew they stayed on the 34/37/39 as I had seen them swap but wondered if a bus would end up on a 11 or 123 or 4 after doing a 37/39/34
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 04, 2017, 11:19:16 AM
Quote from: BusFan94 on March 04, 2017, 11:17:14 AM
Well I knew they stayed on the 34/37/39 as I had seen them swap but wondered if a bus would end up on a 11 or 123 or 4 after doing a 37/39/34

None are planned to, but can be swapped if needed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 07, 2017, 06:39:29 PM
Is Bromsgrove programmed onto Walsall destinations list?? Seems strange to me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on March 07, 2017, 07:05:10 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 07, 2017, 06:39:29 PM
Is Bromsgrove programmed onto Walsall destinations list?? Seems strange to me.

And why the hell would Bromsgrove be on Walsall blinds?!?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 07, 2017, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 07, 2017, 07:05:10 PM
And why the hell would Bromsgrove be on Walsall blinds?!?

Rail replacements?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on March 07, 2017, 07:43:01 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 07, 2017, 07:17:23 PM
Rail replacements?

I doubt Walsall would operate them. Probably Birmingham Central, Perry Barr or one of the South Birmingham garages (I could be completely wrong though).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on March 07, 2017, 07:46:07 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 07, 2017, 07:43:01 PM
I doubt Walsall would operate them. Probably Birmingham Central, Perry Barr or one of the South Birmingham garages (I could be completely wrong though).

I suppose that it depends on what garage has buses to spare when Rail Replacements need to operate, so yes Walsall wouldn't be the ideal choice, I don't suppose that it would be impossible for them to operate them either.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on March 07, 2017, 07:46:53 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 07, 2017, 07:43:01 PM
I doubt Walsall would operate them. Probably Birmingham Central, Perry Barr or one of the South Birmingham garages (I could be completely wrong though).

It's not that farfetched. Vehicles have other garages routes programmed into them so having Rail Replacements also programmed doesn't seem too off.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on March 07, 2017, 08:01:06 PM
The NX vehicles I've seen on rail replacement duties have always just shown "Rail Replacement" with the old British Rail logo on the front displays, with the same logo shown on the rear display. I've seen some of AG's E200s that scroll the stations on the side display. But I've never seen any that showed the destination on the front.

With regards to which garage would operate RR services, it would depend on if a garage had vehicles spare and the proximity to the line they were being used on. In recent years, I do tend to see AG's E200s used on Snow Hill replacements between Snow Hill and Dorridge, alongside Johnsons. But I did a few years back see a PB Omnilink on RR duties at Olton station.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on March 07, 2017, 08:04:00 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 07, 2017, 08:01:06 PM
The NX vehicles I've seen on rail replacement duties have always just shown "Rail Replacement" with the old British Rail logo on the front displays, with the same logo shown on the rear display. I've seen some of AG's E200s that scroll the stations on the side display. But I've never seen any that showed the destination on the front.

With regards to which garage would operate RR services, it would depend on if a garage had vehicles spare and the proximity to the line they were being used on. In recent years, I do tend to see AG's E200s used on Snow Hill replacements between Snow Hill and Dorridge, alongside Johnsons. But I did a few years back see a PB Omnilink on RR duties at Olton station.
NX vehicles i've seen recently display rail replacement and then bellow the stations it is calling at are scrolling.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Walsall1955 on March 07, 2017, 09:47:15 PM
In April 2015 on Chase Line rail replacements I noticed that most buses had no destinations / station names displayed (instead just "RAIL REPLACEMENT" or similar, a few did however have station names additionally displayed, here are some of the photos taken that day showing the variation observed:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/33270552996/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/33270551796/in/dateposted-public/

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 08, 2017, 07:12:43 AM
856 on the 11/13.

Its on the board that does the 709 11 out of Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 08, 2017, 07:43:56 AM
Quote from: Westy on March 08, 2017, 07:12:43 AM
856 on the 11/13.

Its on the board that does the 709 11 out of Walsall.

Late night board then.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on March 08, 2017, 03:30:44 PM
One of WA unpainted B7RLE has lost against a bollard at the new stand C at Merry Hill
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 08, 2017, 04:13:47 PM
There's Only 1 unpainted 17xx
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 08, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 08, 2017, 03:30:44 PM
One of WA unpainted B7RLE has lost against a bollard at the new stand C at Merry Hill

1762 I presume
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 08, 2017, 07:49:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 08, 2017, 04:32:51 PM
1762 I presume


NX 4H driver went wrong way and didn't bother rectifying!!!!!


Very good route training provided there!!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on March 08, 2017, 07:56:34 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 08, 2017, 07:49:16 PM

NX 4H driver went wrong way and didn't bother rectifying!!!!!


Very good route training provided there!!!
do you suffer from ocd by any chance  as you are constantly ballyacheing about the 244 4H and Nxwm   
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on March 08, 2017, 09:24:40 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 07, 2017, 08:01:06 PM

the old British Rail logo on the front displays, with the same logo shown on the rear display.


Happily, the double-arrow has survived privatization etc and remains the logo for 'National Rail.'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 08, 2017, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on March 08, 2017, 07:56:34 PM
do you suffer from ocd by any chance  as you are constantly ballyacheing about the 244 4H and Nxwm

I don't moan as much as bob with arriva haha. I just find it very unprofessional that bus drivers are going wrong way on routes and it's regular atm- driver training obviously isn't efficient
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 08, 2017, 10:14:52 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 08, 2017, 09:50:20 PM
I don't moan as much as bob with arriva haha. I just find it very unprofessional that bus drivers are going wrong way on routes and it's regular atm- driver training obviously isn't efficient

Regular?

You've mentioned once
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on March 08, 2017, 10:16:52 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 08, 2017, 07:49:16 PM

NX 4H driver went wrong way and didn't bother rectifying!!!!!


Very good route training provided there!!!

What's 1762s bump got to do with route training, so you have watched every 4H do the whole Hayley green loop via helicopter? and yes you moan even more that bob as you moan bloody every day about the 4H/244
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 08, 2017, 10:39:52 PM
Quote from: Chris on March 08, 2017, 10:16:52 PM
What's 1762s bump got to do with route training.

He never said it did though.... He's on about a different subject.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on March 08, 2017, 11:15:32 PM
Quote from: Dom on March 08, 2017, 10:39:52 PM
He never said it did though.... He's on about a different subject.

I think you'll find that he did... (added your smug '...' at the end for bants)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 09, 2017, 06:58:29 AM
My apologies, didn't see he'd quoted it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 04:05:37 PM
Who the bloody hell invented that 4H timetable. They need sacking. Whole timetable seems out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Adam 404 on March 14, 2017, 04:45:35 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 04:05:37 PM
Who the bloody hell invented that 4H timetable. They need sacking. Whole timetable seems out.
A bit rude.
I bet you couldn't make a better timetable... Your comment isn't constructive either so how could someone improve a timetable if you just say "it's terrible"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 14, 2017, 05:32:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 04:05:37 PM
Who the bloody hell invented that 4H timetable. They need sacking. Whole timetable seems out.

And why this time?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 14, 2017, 05:36:25 PM
Quote from: Dom on March 14, 2017, 05:32:03 PM
And why this time?

Journey time Walsall to Hayley Green is the same as the Diamond timetable, but that one is wonderful!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 05:53:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2017, 05:36:25 PM
Journey time Walsall to Hayley Green is the same as the Diamond timetable, but that one is wonderful!

It's out of proportion mate. Rushed from Halesowen to Walsall but could walk quicker between Hayley green and Halesowen
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on March 14, 2017, 06:09:23 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 05:53:16 PM
It's out of proportion mate. Rushed from Halesowen to Walsall but could walk quicker between Hayley green and Halesowen

Thought you never wanted to go to Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 14, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 05:53:16 PM
It's out of proportion mate. Rushed from Halesowen to Walsall but could walk quicker between Hayley green and Halesowen

There is all of two minutes difference - have you actually looked at the timetables
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 06:57:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 14, 2017, 06:12:49 PM
There is all of two minutes difference - have you actually looked at the timetables


There's more than that NX take 20 minutes circular and then has 5 mins in Halesowen, which is 25 mins. Diamond do whole route in 15 minutes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 14, 2017, 07:05:48 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 06:57:36 PM

There's more than that NX take 20 minutes circular and then has 5 mins in Halesowen, which is 25 mins. Diamond do whole route in 15 minutes

So, You moan NXWM are always late, by saying NXWM have too much time?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on March 14, 2017, 07:08:58 PM
@Trident 4194

Diamond only do the whole section in 15 because nobody hardly uses their 4H!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 07:24:07 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 14, 2017, 07:08:58 PM
@Trident 4194

Diamond only do the whole section in 15 because nobody hardly uses their 4H!

Now that's a load of bs. Have you seen the loading? Nx don't carry any more than diamond in fact less! Nx should be able to do in 15 mins also then if that case @the trainbasher
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on March 14, 2017, 07:38:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 14, 2017, 07:24:07 PM
Now that's a load of bs. Have you seen the loading? Nx don't carry any more than diamond in fact less! Nx should be able to do in 15 mins also then if that case @the trainbasher

I've done my fair number of loops round on Diamond to know the most passengers except me out of Halesowen has been 16, and that was because the preceding Diamond 4H had not turned up
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on March 15, 2017, 07:20:51 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on March 14, 2017, 07:38:19 PM
I've done my fair number of loops round on Diamond to know the most passengers except me out of Halesowen has been 16, and that was because the preceding Diamond 4H had not turned up

Tbf he has/had a habit of doing that loop over and over and over so I'd believe him
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on March 23, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
Any idea why I saw what looked a 57 plate Omnilink Coming Not In Service from The Moxley Direction By Darlaston Bus Station I saw this while on the 33X that's why I couldn't get fleet number or tell If a 58 plate or 09 plate Omnilink
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident4590 on March 29, 2017, 04:55:09 PM
Eclipse 2 on the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 29, 2017, 05:22:53 PM
Quote from: Trident4590 on March 29, 2017, 04:55:09 PM
Eclipse 2 on the 4

2119.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on April 02, 2017, 01:18:49 PM
Whats happened at west Bromwich as the 4 bus has police cars all-round
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 03, 2017, 07:00:06 AM
Must be something in this rumour about the X51 being extended to Cannock during the day.

Yet another driver route learning, with our usual driver 'baby sitting' him!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 03, 2017, 08:04:43 AM
Quote from: Westy on April 03, 2017, 07:00:06 AM
Must be something in this rumour about the X51 being extended to Cannock during the day.

Yet another driver route learning, with our usual driver 'baby sitting' him!

Are you sure it's not a Buddy Driver? As I've noticed quite a few on the City Express over the past week. It's probably just that the usual driver's duty involves a Cannock and the Buddy Driver is probably paired with the usual driver.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 03, 2017, 12:57:39 PM
6723 parked up in Dudley bus station for some reason.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 03, 2017, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 03, 2017, 08:04:43 AM
Are you sure it's not a Buddy Driver? As I've noticed quite a few on the City Express over the past week. It's probably just that the usual driver's duty involves a Cannock and the Buddy Driver is probably paired with the usual driver.

Maybe. It just seems strange that the comment was made on the Arriva thread then I start seeing all these extra drivers on the Cannock x51's!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 03, 2017, 01:14:18 PM
Now is Walsall going to retaliate against Diamond reducing its fares on the 301 & 302, according to a FB post?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 13, 2017, 05:48:43 PM
@Tony Any idea whats up with the 11 & 13, as one only appeared at Lea Avenue in Wednesbury around 530, so at least 2 went astray between just after 5 & then.

1882 is rammed!

(And Thandi running to Wednesbury only when they should be running to Walsall is not helping!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 15, 2017, 09:16:42 AM
Just seen a 4H to the delves?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 15, 2017, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 15, 2017, 09:16:42 AM
Just seen a 4H to the delves?

Where would it turn round?

When they ran 404e's back in 1980(?), the bus turned round at Joseph Leckie!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 15, 2017, 07:43:51 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 15, 2017, 07:39:24 PM
Where would it turn round?

When they ran 404e's back in 1980(?), the bus turned round at Joseph Leckie!

Tbh I didn't know where the delves was.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 17, 2017, 01:38:36 PM
Does anyone know what board the Sunday 1305 89 from Walsall is on, as looking at the app, it seems to be 15 mins late at least into Bloxwich?

Any idea what would've caused the earlier delay?

(On behalf of my sister!)

Edit : Turned up at around 1352!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 18, 2017, 12:32:27 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 17, 2017, 01:38:36 PM
Does anyone know what board the Sunday 1305 89 from Walsall is on, as looking at the app, it seems to be 15 mins late at least into Bloxwich?

Any idea what would've caused the earlier delay?

(On behalf of my sister!)

Edit : Turned up at around 1352!

The Sunday 89's have been suffering reliability problems, mainly due to tight running time and traffic at Bentley Bridge. They're usually 20-p30 mins late. Apparently they will be interworking on same boards as the 6 and 10 on a Sunday but each journey will still be done by drivers of their own rota.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 18, 2017, 09:36:28 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 18, 2017, 12:32:27 PM
The Sunday 89's have been suffering reliability problems, mainly due to tight running time and traffic at Bentley Bridge. They're usually 20-p30 mins late. Apparently they will be interworking on same boards as the 6 and 10 on a Sunday but each journey will still be done by drivers of their own rota.

Doesnt help when she has to set out 90 mins before her shift!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 18, 2017, 10:35:23 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 18, 2017, 09:36:28 PM
Doesnt help when she has to set out 90 mins before her shift!

They should shorten it to wednesfield imo, would keep it on time and the 59 is frequent enough to Wolverhampton.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 24, 2017, 07:01:11 PM
Reserve fleet 4192 & 4201 both at Walsall tonight and likely to be used in service tomorrow.
4127 & 4737 are out on a Private hire and these two are covering
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2017, 07:05:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2017, 07:01:11 PM
Reserve fleet 4192 & 4201 both at Walsall tonight and likely to be used in service tomorrow.
4127 & 4737 are out on a Private hire and these two are covering

So do we take it, the other buses in the reserve fleet are in fact withdrawn?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 24, 2017, 07:09:02 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2017, 07:05:54 PM
So do we take it, the other buses in the reserve fleet are in fact withdrawn?

No, They are reserve. 4144 & 4190 being prime examples of now being back in use. 4172 also on the way back

Withdrawn vehicles getting pulled apart for spares. The reserve fleet is all still MoT'd and taxed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on April 24, 2017, 07:12:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2017, 07:09:02 PM
No, They are reserve. 4144 & 4190 being prime examples of now being back in use. 4172 also on the way back

Withdrawn vehicles getting pulled apart for spares. The reserve fleet is all still MoT'd and taxed

Thanks for the clarification @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 25, 2017, 07:31:57 AM
Anyone after the reserve pair doing the odd day at Walsall

4192-10
4201-89
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 25, 2017, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 25, 2017, 07:31:57 AM
Anyone after the reserve pair doing the odd day at Walsall

4192-10
4201-89

Thanks, @Tony.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 25, 2017, 03:20:57 PM
@Chris no it's the 4H which seems to run on diamond times now...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on April 25, 2017, 05:06:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 25, 2017, 03:20:57 PM
@Chris no it's the 4H which seems to run on diamond times now...

How??? When diamond 4H is every 15 mins and NX every 20 mins? NX buses been flying again?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 25, 2017, 05:10:14 PM
Quote from: Chris on April 25, 2017, 05:06:56 PM
How??? When diamond 4H is every 15 mins and NX every 20 mins? NX buses been flying again?

The 2 4Hs I saw today we're both running 7-10 mins late
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on May 06, 2017, 09:36:48 PM
Is it true that 6749 gone back to adl for a rebuild of something ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on May 07, 2017, 05:45:44 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 07, 2017, 03:38:52 PM
51 branded 4857 on WAX51.

Technically its still on the same route but misses out certain stops
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 08, 2017, 08:59:26 AM
Quote from: WB Driver on May 07, 2017, 05:45:44 PM
Technically its still on the same route but misses out certain stops

Well yeah. But it's still on a different route, as the 51 goes a slightly different way.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 10, 2017, 06:55:30 AM
4735 covering the Platty board that does the 2nd Cannock X51, complete with knackered smartcard reader!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 10, 2017, 08:41:57 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 10, 2017, 06:55:30 AM
4735 covering the Platty board that does the 2nd Cannock X51, complete with knackered smartcard reader!

Tracking for the apps doesn't appear to work either. As it wasn't showing up on the Boney Hay 937 yesterday evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ChrisMcCarthy on May 10, 2017, 02:49:01 PM
4862 was recovered from Lower Bull Street yesterday after being sat there for roughly 3 hours. Not sure what was wrong with it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 10, 2017, 08:21:05 PM
Caught that this morning. Driver let us on with our n train pass as the train was cancelled
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 11, 2017, 06:55:37 AM
4735 again this morning.

Is the normal vehicle on other duties or are we short of a Plattie for some reason?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on May 11, 2017, 09:55:53 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 11, 2017, 06:55:37 AM
4735 again this morning.

Is the normal vehicle on other duties or are we short of a Plattie for some reason?

There's at least 2 off the road, and one had a window put through other night but I presume that's back now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 11, 2017, 11:24:57 AM
Are Tridents on 51 noteworthy now? It seems they are on 51 quite a lot recently, so perhaps pointless having to report them on 51 judging the poster's regular posts on the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 11, 2017, 12:49:08 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 11, 2017, 11:24:57 AM
Are Tridents on 51 noteworthy now? It seems they are on 51 quite a lot recently, so perhaps pointless having to report them on 51 judging the poster's regular posts on the 51.

Thanks for the indirect post...At the end of the day, I'm only posting them as they're uncommon on the 51 (although they're used when no Enviro 400's are spare). It's certainly quite unusual to have more than two on there too (which also might be of interest to some people). The only reason multiple are getting on there at the moment is due to the amount of Platinum's off the road, meaning Enviro 400's are being used on Platinum routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 11, 2017, 12:55:06 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 11, 2017, 12:49:08 PM
Thanks for the indirect post about me...

You're welcome.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 11, 2017, 03:24:27 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on May 11, 2017, 11:24:57 AM
Are Tridents on 51 noteworthy now? It seems they are on 51 quite a lot recently, so perhaps pointless having to report them on 51 judging the poster's regular posts on the 51.
I'd make the most it while you can. Tridents will be barred from the 51 after the end of this month.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on May 11, 2017, 03:42:31 PM
Quote from: Jack B on May 11, 2017, 03:24:27 PM
I'd make the most it while you can. Tridents will be barred from the 51 after the end of this month.

Not necessarily if it has an exhaust trap fitted it's at euro 6 standard which some of the Tridents and alx 400 are getting so can enter the city centre

Also the euro rules only apply to very frequent routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 11, 2017, 03:57:43 PM
Quote from: Chris on May 11, 2017, 03:42:31 PM
Not necessarily if it has an exhaust trap fitted it's at euro 6 standard which some of the Tridents and alx 400 are getting so can enter the city centre

Also the euro rules only apply to very frequent routes
As far as I know the Tridents at Walsall arent getting the Traps. They only appear on the 51 when there's no spare E400's.

The 51 is a frequent route. @Chris
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on May 11, 2017, 04:12:33 PM
I'll put it here but 4597 is on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 16, 2017, 06:54:58 AM
4870(I think) covering 2nd X51 Cannock board this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on May 18, 2017, 11:22:37 AM
4358 on the 51, Aston Six Ways heading into City
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on May 22, 2017, 08:17:19 AM
Awaiting the comments asking why the Walsall fare zone branding isn't as big as Sandwell and Dudley.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on May 22, 2017, 11:06:37 AM
Quote from: Dom on May 22, 2017, 08:17:19 AM
Awaiting the comments asking why the Walsall fare zone branding isn't as big as Sandwell and Dudley.

Looks a lot better as well. At least you can see out of the windows, and the vinyl has been attached straight and not just plonked on like some of the West Brom buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on May 22, 2017, 11:49:21 AM
Quote from: John on May 22, 2017, 11:06:37 AM
Looks a lot better as well. At least you can see out of the windows, and the vinyl has been attached straight and not just plonked on like some of the West Brom buses

It does look a lot smarter to be honest.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 22, 2017, 01:49:01 PM
 They were giving them out down in Walsall BS this morning, according to my other (big) sister!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 02, 2017, 06:51:41 PM
Just passed 2119 at Lancaster Circus heading into Birmingham out of service. Is it involved in a transfer or going into Birmingham for the cricket? As I doubt it would be in service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 02, 2017, 06:56:13 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 02, 2017, 06:51:41 PM
Just passed 2119 at Lancaster Circus heading into Birmingham out of service. Is it involved in a transfer or going into Birmingham for the cricket? As I doubt it would be in service.

In service on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 02, 2017, 06:59:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 02, 2017, 06:56:13 PM
In service on the 51

Well that's my theory blown out of the water. Thanks anyway @Tony.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Isobel6725 on June 03, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
Apologies, newbie here.
I'm a Walsall driver so thought this be the best place to say hello as I'm struggling to adapt to the forum lifestyle. Don't mind me 😄
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 03, 2017, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: Isobel6725 on June 03, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
Apologies, newbie here.
I'm a Walsall driver so thought this be the best place to say hello as I'm struggling to adapt to the forum lifestyle. Don't mind me 😄

Welcome to the forum, @Isobel6725! ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 03, 2017, 11:37:53 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 03, 2017, 09:32:00 AM
Welcome to the forum, @Isobel6725! ;D

Do you know Elaine?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 03, 2017, 07:04:46 PM
Quote from: Isobel6725 on June 03, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
Apologies, newbie here.
I'm a Walsall driver so thought this be the best place to say hello as I'm struggling to adapt to the forum lifestyle. Don't mind me 😄

Welcome to the madhouse @Isobel6725!  :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Isobel6725 on June 03, 2017, 07:20:59 PM
Westy... Yes I do, Elaine who is based at Bradford Place?

And hello guys  :D :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on June 03, 2017, 08:04:31 PM
Quote from: Isobel6725 on June 03, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
Apologies, newbie here.
I'm a Walsall driver so thought this be the best place to say hello as I'm struggling to adapt to the forum lifestyle. Don't mind me 😄
Welcome to the forum @Isobel6725
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rob H on June 03, 2017, 09:02:21 PM
Quote from: Isobel6725 on June 03, 2017, 08:26:45 AM
Apologies, newbie here.
I'm a Walsall driver so thought this be the best place to say hello as I'm struggling to adapt to the forum lifestyle. Don't mind me 😄

Welcome to the Forum @Isobel6725 8)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 03, 2017, 09:48:34 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on June 03, 2017, 09:02:21 PM
Welcome to the Forum @Isobel6725 8)

I thought that new members were supposed to introduce thereselves in the new members thread in the "Notices" thread, oh hang on, the thread is locked so nobody can post in it. I did ask why the thread had been locked, but the person who locked it wasn't polite enough to answer me, so maybe @Tony can answer my question.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on June 03, 2017, 10:10:27 PM
sorry for my rudeness, welcome to the forum @Isobel6725
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 03, 2017, 10:35:31 PM
Welcome to the forum @Isobel6725
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Isobel6725 on June 03, 2017, 11:28:49 PM
Thankyou everyone for being so welcoming.  :D
I did notice that the Newbie thread was locked, hence me posting in here as I drive for WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on June 03, 2017, 11:36:11 PM
Quote from: Isobel6725 on June 03, 2017, 11:28:49 PM
Thankyou everyone for being so welcoming.  :D
I did notice that the Newbie thread was locked, hence me posting in here as I drive for WA.

Makes sense I suppose. Being a driver for WA, you could make valuable contributions to the thread especially in regards to workings at WA.

Welcome to the forum !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 04, 2017, 03:45:41 PM
Apparently the buses on 6/10 have been swapped for Scania's due to a diversion on the 6 (due to the Fun Run). Just seen 1857 leave Walsall on a 10 to Burntwood.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 15, 2017, 08:48:33 AM
Quote from: Ian Hardy on June 14, 2017, 10:26:55 PM
4508 11 Branded on 72 13/06/17
6727 997 Branded on X51 13/06/17

@Ian Hardy You do realise 6727 is branded for both the 997 and X51? The "Fast and Frequent" branding on 6723-40 is for both the 997 and X51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on June 15, 2017, 02:59:33 PM
@Michael Bevan is that the express bit between Bromford and the city lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 15, 2017, 03:20:41 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 15, 2017, 08:48:33 AM
@Ian Hardy You do realise 6727 is branded for both the 997 and X51? The "Fast and Frequent" branding on 6723-40 is for both the 997 and X51.
I think he means the lower rear deck window branding. Some say 997 and some say X51. @Michael Bevan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ian Hardy on June 15, 2017, 09:25:08 PM
No I did not, I saw 997 but did notice the X51 on the branding.

Many thanks

Ian Hardy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 15, 2017, 10:48:09 PM
Quote from: Ian Hardy on June 15, 2017, 09:25:08 PM
No I did not, I saw 997 but did notice the X51 on the branding.

Many thanks

Ian Hardy
The 997/E and X51 interwork at points during the day. It's usual @Ian Hardy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 16, 2017, 06:34:44 AM
If the buses interwork, why didn't they dual brand for both routes?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2017, 06:58:59 PM
Walsall driver was moaning about a diamond 4H driver earlier to the passengers saying they have no safety. He only pulled round the bus station in front of him.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 16, 2017, 07:01:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2017, 06:58:59 PM
Walsall driver was moaning about a diamond 4H driver earlier to the passengers saying they have no safety. He only pulled round the bus station in front of him.

And the rest of the route?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2017, 07:07:41 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 16, 2017, 07:01:08 PM
And the rest of the route?

Have you had reports of diamond drivers driving dangerously?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on June 16, 2017, 09:56:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 16, 2017, 07:07:41 PM
Have you had reports of diamond drivers driving dangerously?

No but when it comes to common sense diamond drivers don't have any. A diamond driver told me three of her colleagues had ended up in hospital for opening the coolant flap and getting burnt by the pressurised Water behind it when they were told not to do it and call for an engineer. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 16, 2017, 10:45:39 PM
Quote from: WB Driver on June 16, 2017, 09:56:44 PM
No but when it comes to common sense diamond drivers don't have any. A diamond driver told me three of her colleagues had ended up in hospital for opening the coolant flap and getting burnt by the pressurised Water behind it when they were told not to do it and call for an engineer.

I can second that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 17, 2017, 12:34:46 AM
Quote from: WB Driver on June 16, 2017, 09:56:44 PM
No but when it comes to common sense diamond drivers don't have any. A diamond driver told me three of her colleagues had ended up in hospital for opening the coolant flap and getting burnt by the pressurised Water behind it when they were told not to do it and call for an engineer.

A Diamond driver in Walsall did the same action and scolded his arm.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 17, 2017, 04:20:53 AM
Quote from: Dom on June 16, 2017, 10:45:39 PM
I can second that.

I can third that. After working at Diamond for 2 days (thank god not in service), I can also say as an insider, there's not even proper checks on the buses.

Shambles. That applies to both Tividale and Redditch (spent a day at each).

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 17, 2017, 09:31:20 AM
Thats surprising, considering they're supposed to be the second biggest company in the area!

You'd expect this from the lesser ones!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 18, 2017, 12:30:52 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 18, 2017, 11:38:35 AM
6722, 6739 and 6754 are all on WA51.

No
Dear God please no
I get they don't want the platty's in garage doing nothing on Sunday, but not the 51
Literally any other route will be fine: Brownhills, 6/7, 41... hell even stick them on the Mossley/Lower Farm estates... Just not the 51 when they're associated with the express version of THAT EXACT ROUTE!!
People will be letting it go past because it's the Platinum bus, and on a 15 minute Sunday service that is not acceptable
If it's because the rotas have merged or whatever then fine, but put normal buses on the X51 so this doesn't happen
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on June 18, 2017, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: Kevin on June 18, 2017, 12:30:52 PM
No
Dear God please no
I get they don't want the platty's in garage doing nothing on Sunday, but not the 51
Literally any other route will be fine: Brownhills, 6/7, 41... hell even stick them on the Mossley/Lower Farm estates... Just not the 51 when they're associated with the express version of THAT EXACT ROUTE!!
People will be letting it go past because it's the Platinum bus, and on a 15 minute Sunday service that is not acceptable
If it's because the rotas have merged or whatever then fine, but put normal buses on the X51 so this doesn't happen
Surely they can read what is on the destination display, if they don't read it then it is there own fault if they let it go past.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 18, 2017, 01:09:58 PM
Quote from: 2206 on June 18, 2017, 01:08:34 PM
Surely they can read what is on the destination display, if they don't read it then it is there own fault if they let it go past.

On any other route where the display is not significantly different yes
But "51 Birmingham" and "X51 Birmingham"
Come on

Anyway, would you like to tell that to the old people I literally just saw let it go past on the Walsall Road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 18, 2017, 01:11:41 PM
Quote from: Kevin on June 18, 2017, 12:30:52 PM
No
Dear God please no
I get they don't want the platty's in garage doing nothing on Sunday, but not the 51
Literally any other route will be fine: Brownhills, 6/7, 41... hell even stick them on the Mossley/Lower Farm estates... Just not the 51 when they're associated with the express version of THAT EXACT ROUTE!!
People will be letting it go past because it's the Platinum bus, and on a 15 minute Sunday service that is not acceptable
If it's because the rotas have merged or whatever then fine, but put normal buses on the X51 so this doesn't happen

If they removed the 'ban' on the Bradford Place double deckers, then nice day like today, stick them  on the Dudley route, for the zoo & Black Country Museum.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 18, 2017, 01:14:41 PM
This maybe a long shot but could possibly explain the Platinum E400MMC's on the 51. Are NX providing buses for
today's Iron man challenge in Staffordshire (Cannock Chase to Shrugborough Hall)? They have in previous years using WA vehicles

https://www.expressandstar.com/entertainment/staffordshire-entertainment/2017/06/18/staffordshire-ironman-2017-hundreds-brave-scorching-temperatures-for-big-challenge/

4875 pictured on said duties in 2015 (6th photo down).
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4875.html


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 18, 2017, 02:18:32 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2017, 01:14:41 PM
This maybe a long shot but could possibly explain the Platinum E400MMC's on the 51. Are NX providing buses for
today's Iron man challenge in Staffordshire (Cannock Chase to Shrugborough Hall)? They have in previous years using WA vehicles

https://www.expressandstar.com/entertainment/staffordshire-entertainment/2017/06/18/staffordshire-ironman-2017-hundreds-brave-scorching-temperatures-for-big-challenge/

4875 pictured on said duties in 2015 (6th photo down).
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4875.html
Yeah. They used most of 4857-4870 when they last did it. Tridents were used as 'covers' on the 51. WA can't use Tridents as they aren't compliant for the Euro rules in the City.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 18, 2017, 03:15:35 PM
I don't get why they didn't use any of 4733-4737 or 4597-4598 on the 51. They're better substitutes than Platinums to avoid confusion and they are compliant to the Euro emissions.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 18, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Let's get a fine for sending 4597/8 into Birmingham then shall we?

It's only bus spotters objecting, most passengers will be glad of a bit of extra comfort
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 18, 2017, 03:44:26 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 18, 2017, 03:15:35 PM
I don't get why they didn't use any of 4733-4737 or 4597-4598 on the 51. They're better substitutes than Platinums to avoid confusion and they are compliant to the Euro emissions.
4597/4598 aren't compliant. They don't have the traps fitted. TBH I'm not sure why WA can't put 4733-4737 can't be on the 51 unless they are been used on the Shugborough contract. Tridents are banned from the 51 now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 18, 2017, 03:48:37 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Let's get a fine for sending 4597/8 into Birmingham then shall we?

It's only bus spotters objecting, most passengers will be glad of a bit of extra comfort
Vandalism will happen on them, especially if they're on the 51 after 10PM between Perry Barr and City.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 18, 2017, 04:01:38 PM
I don't get the fuss about it if I'm honest. It's a bus covering a service, whoppie doo!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 18, 2017, 04:09:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Let's get a fine for sending 4597/8 into Birmingham then shall we?

It's only bus spotters objecting, most passengers will be glad of a bit of extra comfort

Sorry, it slipped my mind about 4597/8 not having traps fitted.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 18, 2017, 05:19:52 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Let's get a fine for sending 4597/8 into Birmingham then shall we?

It's only bus spotters objecting, most passengers will be glad of a bit of extra comfort

It isn't only bus spotters objecting
I spoke to the two old people that let it go past and they were rather furious that it happened and they'd have to wait another 15 minutes, and they won't be the only people that it happened to.
I get that it's at least a bus honestly I do, but come on of all the routes surely this situation should be avoided
Couldn't any other buses be used for the contract?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 18, 2017, 05:25:52 PM
Quote from: Kevin on June 18, 2017, 05:19:52 PM
It isn't only bus spotters objecting
I spoke to the two old people that let it go past and they were rather furious that it happened and they'd have to wait another 15 minutes, and they won't be the only people that it happened to.
I get that it's at least a bus honestly I do, but come on of all the routes surely this situation should be avoided
Couldn't any other buses be used for the contract?
What contract? even that is just guesswork everyone is taking as gospel.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 18, 2017, 05:35:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Let's get a fine for sending 4597/8 into Birmingham then shall we?

It's only bus spotters objecting, most passengers will be glad of a bit of extra comfort
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You're quite right there @Tony. Heard quite a few comments from passengers and even drivers who were quite glad to hear a Platinum on the 51. One Streetly driver was quite overjoyed when 6754 turned up on a 51 instead of a standard Enviro 400.

Quote from: Jack B on June 18, 2017, 03:48:37 PM
Vandalism will happen on them, especially if they're on the 51 after 10PM between Perry Barr and City.

Well someone threw up on 6739 earlier if that counts? Was going to go on it into City until someone threw up on it and it had to go back to garage to be cleaned. It's back out now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 18, 2017, 06:01:26 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 18, 2017, 05:35:48 PM
Well someone threw up on 6739 earlier if that counts? Was going to go on it into City until someone threw up on it and it had to go back to garage to be cleaned. It's back out now.
Haven't heard or seen anyone throw up on the 51 for a long time. At least it's cleaned. Hopefully they don't get trashed tonight on there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on June 18, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
Quote from: Jack B on June 18, 2017, 06:01:26 PM
Haven't heard or seen anyone throw up on the 51 for a long time. At least it's cleaned. Hopefully they don't get trashed tonight on there.
So what if you haven't seen anyone throw up on the 51 for a long time, its probably happened in the past, you can't have been on every single 51 journey.

A bus, is the bus, I don't get what all the fuss is about, its better than no bus as only the E400, E400 MMC, Omnilinks and MK2 B7RLE at Walsall can enter the City Centre. Surely most will be able to spot there isn't a big X on the front of the bus, isn't it just the same as before the X51 went platinum?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 18, 2017, 07:51:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 05:25:52 PM
What contract? even that is just guesswork everyone is taking as gospel.

Valid
But where were all the 51 buses then?

Quote from: 2206 on June 18, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
A bus, is the bus, I don't get what all the fuss is about, its better than no bus as only the E400, E400 MMC, Omnilinks and MK2 B7RLE at Walsall can enter the City Centre. Surely most will be able to spot there isn't a big X on the front of the bus.

As I've said, I know, but others don't, and it's hardly a "big X"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 18, 2017, 09:53:13 PM
Quote from: 2206 on June 18, 2017, 07:44:53 PM
So what if you haven't seen anyone throw up on the 51 for a long time, its probably happened in the past, you can't have been on every single 51 journey.

A bus, is the bus, I don't get what all the fuss is about, its better than no bus as only the E400, E400 MMC, Omnilinks and MK2 B7RLE at Walsall can enter the City Centre. Surely most will be able to spot there isn't a big X on the front of the bus, isn't it just the same as before the X51 went platinum?
Do you think I`m that stupid to be on EVERY single 51 of the day!
What about people who can`t see the destination display very well? Most people presume the silver LEDs is an X51. Most people think that the Platniums = X51 on Walsall Road, especially the elderly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 18, 2017, 09:54:13 PM
Quote from: Jack B on June 18, 2017, 09:53:13 PM
Do you think I`m that stupid to be on EVERY single 51 of the day!
What about people who are can`t see the destination display very well? Most people presume the silver LEDs is an X51. Most people think that the Platniums = X51 on Walsall Road, especially the elderly.

I don't think it's NX's fault if people are retarded tbh
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 18, 2017, 09:55:49 PM
Quote from: Jack B on June 18, 2017, 09:53:13 PM
Do you think I`m that stupid to be on EVERY single 51 of the day!
What about people who are can`t see the destination display very well? Most people presume the silver LEDs is an X51. Most people think that the Platniums = X51 on Walsall Road, especially the elderly.

How do you know 'what most people think' ?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 18, 2017, 10:00:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 09:55:49 PM
How do you know 'what most people think' ?
General observations. People are use to Platniums been put on the X51, not the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 18, 2017, 10:38:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 09:55:49 PM
How do you know 'what most people think' ?

In his defence, we're both from the area and, speaking for myself, know what people (perhaps not every person, but general consensus) think.

People here have always had the express bus, back in the day it was known more as "the Timesaver" than the 951, and if a Timesaver bus came along that actually was a 51 they would have let it go past (and I have a very distinct memory of that happening as a child and letting it go past - although now dubious on whether they were ever both the same garage)

It's the same with Diamond buses on the 16. There have been occasions where a red coloured B7RLE has come and a Diamond regular has let it go past thinking it's the other company. Other numerous examples out there where people still catch a bus that still have the display for the previous journey because they know what sort of bus they're looking for

It's the same with the one morning X51 journey that's on a 51 board and so is regularly a 51 branded bus,  people that aren't used to it don't catch it because it's not the Platinum bus. In an area where the bus route itself has an identity this matters, whether bus enthusiasts like it or not. Call these people thick all you want, but they're the customers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 18, 2017, 11:13:50 PM
Why wasnt Tridents used on the Iron Man contract?

In fact, what types of buses are supposed to be available for private hire?

Bearing in mind the Birmingham situation, surely the priority should be compliant buses over the mass vehicle contract?

For the Virgin Weston Park contract, anything was sent out, even Spectras I seem to recall one year.

Do all Nx garages take part in private hires, as a few years ago, Hockley was used for private hire ISTR?

Per day, how many private hires are operated by one garage?

If its one or two buses, you could get with losing newer buses for a day!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 18, 2017, 11:23:55 PM
Quote from: MW on June 18, 2017, 09:54:13 PM
I don't think it's NX's fault if people are retarded tbh
Neither do I. But people can't help it if they can't see the display of a bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 18, 2017, 11:26:26 PM
Quote from: Jack B on June 18, 2017, 11:23:55 PM
Neither do I. But people can't help it if they can't see the display of a bus.

Isn't the ring and ride service available for those people?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 18, 2017, 11:28:01 PM
Quote from: MW on June 18, 2017, 11:26:26 PM
Isn't the ring and ride service available for those people?
They are. But don't  see that many round Great Barr as there use to be.
There is the 424 which goes everywhere in Great Barr!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 19, 2017, 06:21:33 AM
Quote from: Westy on June 18, 2017, 11:13:50 PM
Why wasnt Tridents used on the Iron Man contract?

In fact, what types of buses are supposed to be available for private hire?

Bearing in mind the Birmingham situation, surely the priority should be compliant buses over the mass vehicle contract?

For the Virgin Weston Park contract, anything was sent out, even Spectras I seem to recall one year.

Do all Nx garages take part in private hires, as a few years ago, Hockley was used for private hire ISTR?

Per day, how many private hires are operated by one garage?

If its one or two buses, you could get with losing newer buses for a day!

For the second time. There was no Iron man contract

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 19, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Let's get a fine for sending 4597/8 into Birmingham then shall we?

So 4597 IS on the 51 today. 07:10 Scott Arms
So pray tell Mr Tony, put rumours to bed and tell us where the 51 branded buses are
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 19, 2017, 07:13:22 AM
Quote from: Kevin on June 19, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
So 4597 IS on the 51 today. 07:10 Scott Arms
So pray tell Mr Tony, put rumours to bed and tell us where the 51 branded buses are
Wonderful. Where's all of 4733-37 gone?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 19, 2017, 07:50:16 AM
Looks like a nice fine going over to NX this morning. I think someone's in trouble
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 19, 2017, 08:03:14 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 18, 2017, 03:44:04 PM
Let's get a fine for sending 4597/8 into Birmingham then shall we?

It's only bus spotters objecting, most passengers will be glad of a bit of extra comfort

I guess Walsall's answer to that is "Yes! Let's get a fine!"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on June 19, 2017, 08:03:48 AM
Maybe the 51 branded are going for repaint? Just a thought
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on June 19, 2017, 08:17:52 AM
I'm sure that allowances are made for when there are no compliant buses available. Would you rather gaps in the service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 19, 2017, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: Kevin on June 19, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
So 4597 IS on the 51 today. 07:10 Scott Arms
So pray tell Mr Tony, put rumours to bed and tell us where the 51 branded buses are

Apparently there's four Trident's on the 51 today according to a driver.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on June 19, 2017, 08:40:55 AM
The tridents  might have traps fitted or euro 5 engine
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 19, 2017, 08:44:14 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on June 19, 2017, 08:40:55 AM
The tridents  might have traps fitted or euro 5 engine

No Trident's at Walsall are trapped.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 19, 2017, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: Kevin on June 19, 2017, 07:10:32 AM
So 4597 IS on the 51 today. 07:10 Scott Arms
So pray tell Mr Tony, put rumours to bed and tell us where the 51 branded buses are

Haha, what did I say yesterday? :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 19, 2017, 12:25:29 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 19, 2017, 08:38:40 AM
Apparently there's four Trident's on the 51 today according to a driver.

Should have used 529 branded plattys used on 51. Sure the 529 passengers wouldn't mind, avoids a fine too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on June 19, 2017, 12:29:34 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 19, 2017, 12:25:29 PM
Should have used 529 branded plattys used on 51. Sure the 529 passengers wouldn't mind, avoids a fine too
529 is operated by Wolverhampton 51 is operated by Walsall so unless Wolves leased some to Walsall highly unlikely as WN would Need  work them to Peak Workings on other routes eg 1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on June 19, 2017, 01:13:49 PM
Quote from: Jack B on June 18, 2017, 09:53:13 PM
Do you think I`m that stupid to be on EVERY single 51 of the day!


Priceless  ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 19, 2017, 03:26:27 PM
Where's all the Trident Enviros gone? :P Not that I'm complaining, loving the Tridents on the 51!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 19, 2017, 03:29:57 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 19, 2017, 08:38:40 AM
Apparently there's four Trident's on the 51 today according to a driver.
435* is on the 51 aswell.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 19, 2017, 03:49:59 PM
Quote from: Jack B on June 19, 2017, 03:26:27 PM
Where's all the Trident Enviros gone? :P Not that I'm complaining, loving the Tridents on the 51!

4733 is on 70A.
4734 is on 51.
4736 is on 935.
4737 is on 7A.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 21, 2017, 12:26:26 PM
Any accidents on royutes 4/4H/4M seem to be suffering severe delays?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on June 21, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
6757 on 937 pulled out of service as a child's weed on a seat
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 21, 2017, 04:06:36 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on June 21, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
6757 on 937 pulled out of service as a child's weed on a seat

Couldn't you wait until you got off?  :P
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 21, 2017, 05:11:36 PM
1840 not sounding good at all smoking away
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on June 21, 2017, 07:40:04 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on June 21, 2017, 03:40:52 PM
6757 on 937 pulled out of service as a child's weed on a seat

I'd have pocketed it and smoked it later.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 21, 2017, 11:08:17 PM
Quote from: Mike K on June 21, 2017, 07:40:04 PM
I'd have pocketed it and smoked it later.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFb3AUjE49I
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on June 22, 2017, 12:51:02 AM
Quote from: Mike K on June 21, 2017, 07:40:04 PM
I'd have pocketed it and smoked it later.

Pure class - comedy gold Mike!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 22, 2017, 06:55:45 AM
4734 covering the Plattie board that starts off with the 2nd from Cannock X51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 23, 2017, 11:55:39 AM
Whilst Walsall still have some E400s out of service, their Tridents have managed a remarkable feat this morning. All 42 of them in service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 23, 2017, 12:52:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 23, 2017, 11:55:39 AM
Whilst Walsall still have some E400s out of service, their Tridents have managed a remarkable feat this morning. All 42 of them in service

Reminds me of the B10L updates we used to get!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 23, 2017, 05:02:48 PM
4869 is on the X51/997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 23, 2017, 05:21:02 PM
4126 displaying 'Blakena 29' in Walsall Bus Station.

Think they need to programme a smaller font!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on June 23, 2017, 06:06:32 PM
So it looks like WA37's staying after talks of it being Withdrawn Does anyone know If it gets busier in the Evenings after the Thandi 37's have stopped running I myself use both.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 23, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
Quote from: BusFan94 on June 23, 2017, 06:06:32 PM
So it looks like WA37's staying after talks of it being Withdrawn Does anyone know If it gets busier in the Evenings after the Thandi 37's have stopped running I myself use both.

Now that Sandwell Travel's gone, a decent alternative to Thandi is needed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on June 23, 2017, 08:59:42 PM
So presume NXWM are getting Busier
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 24, 2017, 09:51:28 PM
Must say Walsall drivers seem to be extremely friendly compared to other garages
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 24, 2017, 10:15:00 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 24, 2017, 09:51:28 PM
Must say Walsall drivers seem to be extremely friendly compared to other garages

Which reminds me @Tony , is Elaine from the 11/13 Walsall to Dudley rota still in circulation?
Haven't seen her for ages, but I know she helps with the training anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 24, 2017, 10:22:00 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 24, 2017, 09:51:28 PM
Must say Walsall drivers seem to be extremely friendly compared to other garages

Birmingham drivers under more stress due to busier services maybe?

But in all seriousness, every garage has its friendly and not friendly drivers. How do you define friendly?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on June 24, 2017, 10:33:18 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 24, 2017, 10:15:00 PM
Which reminds me @Tony , is Elaine from the 11/13 Walsall to Dudley rota still in circulation?
Haven't seen her for ages, but I know she helps with the training anyway.

I think I know who is Elaine. She was on my 1861 on 4H not long ago, she was on a buddy driving duty.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 25, 2017, 07:16:20 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 24, 2017, 10:33:18 PM
I think I know who is Elaine. She was on my 1861 on 4H not long ago, she was on a buddy driving duty.

I don't know who Elaine is however we have been having a couple of women drivers on the 4H. Does she have blonde/ white hair and wear glasses?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 25, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
Quote from: Westy on June 23, 2017, 08:16:17 PM
Now that Sandwell Travel's gone, a decent alternative to Thandi is needed.

There is. NXWM.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on June 25, 2017, 10:35:47 AM
Unless you have have prior knowledge of the route/rota this driver is on and you know what she looks like, I would imagine finding her would be fairly tricky.

I remember I had a job interview at NX a few years back for Operations Supervisor @ BY and I was told, I'd be looking after over 100 drivers. If that's a rough estimate of how many drivers are based at BY (The smallest of the garages based on size, vehicles/ routes allocated & drivers), it's fair to say a garage like WA has well over a few hundred drivers.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 25, 2017, 02:29:37 PM
Please don't do anything that could identify someone not on here to others.

They might not want complete strangers finding out their name.

I have deleted a couple of posts
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 25, 2017, 09:55:29 PM
Apologies @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 28, 2017, 09:16:12 PM
4172 at WA not sure if it's paint related or for use
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 28, 2017, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 28, 2017, 09:16:12 PM
4172 at WA not sure if it's paint related or for use

Its just come back from Trailways after floor repairs to reinstate it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on June 28, 2017, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: MW on June 24, 2017, 10:22:00 PM
Birmingham drivers under more stress due to busier services maybe?

But in all seriousness, every garage has its friendly and not friendly drivers. How do you define friendly?

This could be one theory why WA drivers seem more friendly. There is another possible theory.

Drivers at WB, WN, WA and to a certain extent PN mostly relief at central points ie bus stations where there are rest rooms, there is more opportunity for interaction between drivers and drivers getting to know each other which I think has a positive impact of general friendliness. You see drivers from different rotas in groups at the bus stations chatting etc.
Relief points for BC, AG, YW are much more spread out and the same opportunities don't exist. Certainly around B'ham City Centre there are more places for drivers to disperse to as individuals.

Just a theory!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Isobel6725 on July 01, 2017, 07:08:41 AM
@fleetline6477 I agree with your theory. I didn't know that some garages had different relief points.. like when you said they're spread out. As a Walsall driver we have relief in town or garage. Your theory makes me think now.. hmm  ::) :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on July 01, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
Quote from: Isobel6725 on July 01, 2017, 07:08:41 AM
@fleetline6477 I agree with your theory. I didn't know that some garages had different relief points.. like when you said they're spread out. As a Walsall driver we have relief in town or garage. Your theory makes me think now.. hmm  ::) :)

Yes, for example
Perry Barr includes :
Aston University : Aston Expressway - Sutton routes, 65, 67
Witton : 7
Grove Lane : 101
Hamstead Road : 16
Perry Barr (One Stop outbound, Wellhead Lane inbound) : 33, 46, 52, 907
?? : 28
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 01, 2017, 08:22:40 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on July 01, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
Yes, for example
Perry Barr includes :
Aston University : Aston Expressway - Sutton routes, 65, 67
Witton : 7
Grove Lane : 101
Hamstead Road : 16
Perry Barr (One Stop outbound, Wellhead Lane inbound) : 33, 46, 52, 907
?? : 28
What about the 38, 94 and 96? The 54 is the same as the Perry Barr Routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on July 01, 2017, 08:31:42 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on July 01, 2017, 08:18:17 PM
Yes, for example
Perry Barr includes :
Aston University : Aston Expressway - Sutton routes, 65, 67
Witton : 7
Grove Lane : 101
Hamstead Road : 16
Perry Barr (One Stop outbound, Wellhead Lane inbound) : 33, 46, 52, 907
?? : 28
The 94 as well, which is Priory Queensway, Birmingham City Centre.
The 28 is Hawthorn Road next to Warren Farm Road in Kingstanding.
The 71 is Sutton Coldfield, South Parade, I think?

At AG its :
37 - Acocks Green Village.
11A, 11C, 31 and 1 - Acocks Green Garage.
58, 72 and 73 - Solihull Station.
5 - Sarehole Mill.
X12 - Priory Queensway, Birmingham City Centre.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 01, 2017, 10:39:44 PM
Yes, 71 is Sutton and 96 is at Kingstanding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on July 01, 2017, 10:45:21 PM
Quote from: 2206 on July 01, 2017, 08:31:42 PM
X12 - Priory Queensway, Birmingham City Centre.

Is it really in Birmingham City Centre? That doesn't make any sense to me. Why wouldn't it be Solihull? If Birmingham, surely it'd make more sense to send the route to BC in exchange for the 60?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on July 01, 2017, 10:46:11 PM
Quote from: MW on July 01, 2017, 10:45:21 PM
Is it really in Birmingham City Centre? That doesn't make any sense to me. Why wouldn't it be Solihull? If Birmingham, surely it'd make more sense to send the route to BC in exchange for the 60?
Yes the drivers change in the City Centre.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on July 01, 2017, 11:00:26 PM
Quote from: 2206 on July 01, 2017, 10:46:11 PM
Yes the drivers change in the City Centre.

How do the drivers get there? Drivers are paid from booking on at the garage to get to the relief point aren't they?

Can @Tony confirm this? It seems odd to me.

Edit: when I say how do they get there, I'm suggesting that it's quicker to get to Solihull from AG so surely it's more cost effective to have the relief point at Solihull. Unless they've got some sort of deal with London Midland, using Spring Road to Moor Street?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 03, 2017, 01:14:26 PM
In an attempt to change the subject, has Nx got any plans in place this weekend, to inform the travelling public about buses in Pelsall during the period of the carnival, as no Nx buses to my knowledge managed to get into Pelsall during that period last year.

I heard later that the 89 was diverted via Brownhills, but no one waiting at Pelsall bus stops knew, plus no one was minding Twitter or Facebook.

The only bus that managed it was an Igo 25!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on July 03, 2017, 05:48:55 PM
I presume they will Westy but they might need to wait until Management confirms the Diversion Route before saying anything over Twitter
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 04, 2017, 08:23:46 AM
6749 is back in service after being off the road for a while due to an RTA. Just seen it leave Birmingham on a 997E to Pheasey Church.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 07, 2017, 01:14:59 AM
4127 was parked in the front of Perry Barr garage just now, ticket machine removed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 07, 2017, 05:15:22 PM
Quote from: John on July 07, 2017, 01:14:59 AM
4127 was parked in the front of Perry Barr garage just now, ticket machine removed.

4127 is back at Walsall, currently sat down on a layby on Hatherton Road.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on July 13, 2017, 06:04:52 PM
Just on WA 4127 and surprised by the amount of graffiti on the upper deck.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 19, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
To be honest I think the red and white livery suits the omnilinks. 1846 loooks brand new interior and exterior wise. And look even better without a rear advert on the panel
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 19, 2017, 01:07:54 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 19, 2017, 11:31:23 AM
To be honest I think the red and white livery suits the omnilinks. 1846 loooks brand new interior and exterior wise. And look even better without a rear advert on the panel
It looks so unfinished! Just look at the state of some of the red/white Omnilinks at Walsall. 1855 looks terrible.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 19, 2017, 01:37:34 PM
Quote from: Jack B on July 19, 2017, 01:07:54 PM
It looks so unfinished! Just look at the state of some of the red/white Omnilinks at Walsall. 1855 looks terrible.

A fresh repainted one looks nice, but when they get replacement panels painted in different shades of red and white they start to look awful. Just look at some of the Bordesley ones. Crimson suits them a lot better
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 19, 2017, 02:11:50 PM
Quote from: John on July 19, 2017, 01:37:34 PM
A fresh repainted one looks nice, but when they get replacement panels painted in different shades of red and white they start to look awful. Just look at some of the Bordesley ones. Crimson suits them a lot better
They BY ones look slightly orangy now. I think red/white is terrible. Crimson and Toothpaste made them look smart.
1847's roof looks a mess. Faded red on a more neater looking red. The ex Yardley ones at PB look a right mess compared to the Crimsons.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 20, 2017, 02:30:43 PM
1760 and 1761 are now 301/302 branded.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2017, 04:10:17 PM
I can't help but not understand why the nx 4H is having 8 minute waits in Halesowen. I'm surprised centro have allowed such a wait on a bus stand. To me diamond have got their timetable far better suited giving less time for the Hayley green loop where there are less people and more faster roads, well for diamond anyway. It's possible to do nx 4H loop in 17 mins with nx and sometimes less than 15 mins with diamond. And then the diamond is given more time from Halesowen to walsall where the roads are more congested which is the complete opposite to nx.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 24, 2017, 06:42:19 PM
1766 had a nice 10 minute wait on stand in Halesowen heading from walsall, timetables to have 5 minutes wait
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusFan94 on August 02, 2017, 11:39:43 AM
Any Idead why I saw a Not In service Omnilink Red and White going not in service Past The Manor Hospital seen at 11:05AM after I could out from visiting a relative it looked like it was heading straight at Bridgman Street junction With Pleck road looked like it had headed from Pleck Road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 11, 2017, 04:44:10 PM
Has there been a change to the allocations for the 11/13? Been seeing the newer bodied B7RLEs on the routes both this morning and this evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 11, 2017, 06:26:17 PM
Bit late now to flag it properly but the Bloxwich Road services were diverted northbound at Leamore via Leamore Lane & Somerfield Road due to an accident outside Farmfoods!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 13, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
Any chance WA will put extra buses on the X51 this next week with no trains from Walsall or are us Great Barr commuters going to suffer?
Answers on a postcard
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 13, 2017, 09:31:43 PM
Are  there replacement facilities for the Cannock train journeys?

Has NX spread the word re the Cannock X51 journeys?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on August 14, 2017, 09:18:08 AM
Anyone using chase line can, for these next two wks use the swift pass from penkridge.  Was great! Fast an comfy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 17, 2017, 07:44:34 PM
858 still on 11/13 at 5pm !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 25, 2017, 01:06:43 PM
Is the E200 on the 11/13 just covering for unavailable vehicles or has there been a change in allocation?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on August 25, 2017, 02:13:22 PM
Rail replacement being ran by Walsall so Scania are being used on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BN on August 27, 2017, 08:42:41 AM
Quote from: Chris on August 25, 2017, 02:13:22 PM
Rail replacement being ran by Walsall so Scania are being used on there

The rail contract is WN's and 3 lines of the schedule are being run by WA for them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 03:42:49 PM
Kid's are opening up the back of the buses on the 41 when they are on shelley road and kents road.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 30, 2017, 07:14:13 PM
Is it a possibility the service could be taken off the route if it continues?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 30, 2017, 07:14:13 PM
Is it a possibility the service could be taken off the route if it continues?

What can national express west midlands do to stop them from doing it. If they can. I think I know where on of the kids is coming from but I'm not 100% sure. I will put the address up if it's needed!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 30, 2017, 07:58:54 PM
Quote from: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 07:41:51 PM
What can national express west midlands do to stop them from doing it. If they can. I think I know where on of the kids is coming from but I'm not 100% sure. I will put the address up if it's needed!!

If you have an idea of who's responsible, you should let the Police know.

At very least, report anti-social behaviour to Safer Travel:
http://www.safertravel.info/asb
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 30, 2017, 08:01:26 PM
New arrival expected at Walsall garage on Friday, should be in service next week

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/LA146.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 08:02:38 PM
Quote from: Stu on August 30, 2017, 07:58:54 PM
If you have an idea of who's responsible, you should let the Police know.

At very least, report anti-social behaviour to Safer Travel:
http://www.safertravel.info/asb

Thanks @Stu I just want to put a end to the kids and keep the service on the estate
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 08:02:38 PM


Thanks stu. I just want to put a end to the kids and keep the service on the estate

How do we tell the next Walsall bus that the kids are waiting for it now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 30, 2017, 08:47:53 PM
Quote from: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 08:23:05 PM


How do we tell the next Walsall bus that the kids are waiting for it now.

Tell the police
Simples
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 08:51:18 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 30, 2017, 08:47:53 PM
Tell the police
Simples

I've reported to safer travel
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 09:20:32 PM
I have got a question.
Should the back of the buses be locked and be opened when it's needed? @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on August 30, 2017, 09:29:02 PM
Quote from: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 09:20:32 PM
I have got a question.
Should the back of the buses be locked and be opened when it's needed? @Tony

The whole point of it is to be able to switch the engine off, if there's a fire. I've had kids mess around with my bus before too. There's nothing you can do.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: leewhayward29 on August 30, 2017, 09:36:19 PM
Quote from: MW on August 30, 2017, 09:29:02 PM
The whole point of it is to be able to switch the engine off, if there's a fire. I've had kids mess around with my bus before too. There's nothing you can do.

Thank you @MW. I didn't think of that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GeminiFan1991 on August 30, 2017, 11:15:43 PM
Quote from: MW on August 30, 2017, 09:29:02 PM
The whole point of it is to be able to switch the engine off, if there's a fire. I've had kids mess around with my bus before too. There's nothing you can do.

Isn't that slightly counter intuitive to open the engine cover if theirs a fire ?! I'd understand if it's a trained professional is doing it but shouldnt their be some type mechanism like in a car were it could be open via a button or lever from the cab. I've seen far too many drivers being harassed by kids pulling these types of shenanigans. The driver would come out of the cab, close the lid and the kids would then re open it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 01, 2017, 06:58:59 PM
Just been reported on a Facebook group that WA have now got Caetano Levante (Volvo B9R) FJ11 MJY for coach operations.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 01, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 01, 2017, 06:58:59 PM
Just been reported on a Facebook group that WA have now got Caetano Levante (Volvo B9R) FJ11 MJ for coach operations.

See my post on here two days ago about 8 up on this very thread!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 01, 2017, 07:11:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
See my post on here two days ago about 8 up on this very thread!

Have WA gained some more NX coach workings? I assume the Facebook post is wrong as it quotes an 11 plate
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 01, 2017, 07:12:58 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 01, 2017, 07:02:52 PM
See my post on here two days ago about 8 up on this very thread!

Must have missed that @Tony. But it appears to be a different coach than what was previously stated. Although I think it's only temporary.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 01, 2017, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 01, 2017, 07:11:15 PM
Have WA gained some more NX coach workings? I assume the Facebook post is wrong as it quotes an 11 plate

@Winston The Facebook post includes photo's of the coach I stated parked at WA, as it was posted by a coach driver.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 01, 2017, 07:27:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 30, 2017, 08:01:26 PM
New arrival expected at Walsall garage on Friday, should be in service next week

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/LA146.html

Looks like LA146 wasn't got fit in time them, so 135 is cover. Walsall have an extra return trip on the 410 to London from Monday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
1764 having 10 minutes on stand in Halesowen. Might want to check the early running @Tony. If it was diamond blocking the stand on the other hand no doubt you would all throw your dummies out the pram. Thought it was maximum 3 minutes on stand?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 04, 2017, 05:44:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2017, 04:55:44 PM
1764 having 10 minutes on stand in Halesowen. Might want to check the early running @Tony. If it was diamond blocking the stand on the other hand no doubt you would all throw your dummies out the pram. Thought it was maximum 3 minutes on stand?


That bus did not leave any timing point early, he left Blackheath on time at 16:15 and arrived in Halesowen at 16:26 and departed at 16:36. That journey and the next one have an extra 8 minutes allowance which wasn't needed today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 04, 2017, 07:21:41 PM
Just read in a group on Facebook that 4128 (Y719 TOH) has been towed to a scrapyard today. :(  :'(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2017, 07:25:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 04, 2017, 05:44:26 PM

That bus did not leave any timing point early, he left Blackheath on time at 16:15 and arrived in Halesowen at 16:26 and departed at 16:36. That journey and the next one have an extra 8 minutes allowance which wasn't needed today.

Surely should not be waiting on stand for 10 minutes??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on September 04, 2017, 08:55:10 PM
Why? Diamond do it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2017, 08:57:46 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on September 04, 2017, 08:55:10 PM
Why? Diamond do it

When???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 04, 2017, 10:17:42 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 04, 2017, 07:21:41 PM
Just read in a group on Facebook that 4128 (Y719 TOH) has been towed to a scrapyard today. :(  :'(

Most famous as one of the Golden Jubliee liveried vehicles!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on September 04, 2017, 11:17:20 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 04, 2017, 08:57:46 PM
When???

Almost every journey! When they're not running late!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Walsall1955 on September 05, 2017, 08:50:46 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 04, 2017, 10:17:42 PM
Most famous as one of the Golden Jubliee liveried vehicles!
Also received a service 997 "stand in" livery which I think was unique to this bus, here are some pictures showing most of the liveries that it once carried:
https://www.flickr.com/search/?user_id=31762625%40N06&sort=date-taken-desc&text=4128&view_all=1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 07, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
Shoutout to the 4H drivers some of the politest drivers I've encountered at nx.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on September 08, 2017, 03:20:20 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 07, 2017, 05:04:49 PM
Shoutout to the 4H drivers some of the politest drivers I've encountered at nx.

Obviously not me this week, apparently I'm a f**king c**t according to one of the clientele haha
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 11, 2017, 06:54:39 AM
4870 on the 2nd Cannock X51 this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 11, 2017, 08:46:04 PM
Missing vinyls have now started to be reapplied to Walsall's Platinum's. I noticed earlier that 6725 has finally had it's halo reapplied after about a year and a half without it...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 11, 2017, 11:00:52 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 11, 2017, 08:46:04 PM
Missing vinyls have now started to be reapplied to Walsall's Platinum's. I noticed earlier that 6725 has finally had it's halo reapplied after about a year and a half without it...
They better do 6741. That one is terrible, missing so much branding. 6735? I think it's that the one that's missing Branding on its nearside panel.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 12, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
More drivers route learning the X51?

Two sitting at the front by the driver on 6724 this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 14, 2017, 06:57:02 AM
Second time this week for a red & white on the Cannock X51.

4735 doing the second one.

(Also our regular driver seems to be on hols this week as well!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 04, 2017, 07:12:21 AM
4870 again on second X51 from Cannock.

Is this supposed to be a regular thing, if theres still Platties off the road?

I know I saw a red & white recently on a 997 so there must be some sort of rota?

Also, the 77 departure around 7am from Walsall has managed to break down in the middle of Hatherton Road!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 04, 2017, 07:25:55 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 04, 2017, 07:12:21 AM
4870 again on second X51 from Cannock.

Is this supposed to be a regular thing, if theres still Platties off the road?

I know I saw a red & white recently on a 997 so there must be some sort of rota?

Also, the 77 departure around 7am from Walsall has managed to break down in the middle of Hatherton Road!

Standard Enviro 400's are used on Platinum routes when there's not enough Platinum's available. They mainly end up putting them on peak boards, and I think the second morning Cannock is a peak board. That's why it ends up being a standard Enviro 400 sometimes. Same with the afternoon Boney Hay 937. That's a peak board, which is why standard Enviro 400's get on it commonly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on October 04, 2017, 09:11:48 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 04, 2017, 07:25:55 AM
Standard Enviro 400's are used on Platinum routes when there's not enough Platinum's available. They mainly end up putting them on peak boards, and I think the second morning Cannock is a peak board. That's why it ends up being a standard Enviro 400 sometimes. Same with the afternoon Boney Hay 937. That's a peak board, which is why standard Enviro 400's get on it commonly.

It's not a Walsall route, but the 126 also gets Enviro 400's on it on occasion, albeit I've only ever seen the Hybrid ones on there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 04, 2017, 12:38:33 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 12, 2017, 06:56:05 AM
More drivers route learning the X51?

Two sitting at the front by the driver on 6724 this morning.

Maybe they're gonna increase it or something. Pity they never increase the cannock end 😐
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 04, 2017, 04:13:58 PM
Quote from: DJ98 on October 04, 2017, 09:11:48 AM
It's not a Walsall route, but the 126 also gets Enviro 400's on it on occasion, albeit I've only ever seen the Hybrid ones on there.
As Hybrids are the only other compliant Decker WN have.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 04, 2017, 04:48:26 PM
Quote from: DJ98 on October 04, 2017, 09:11:48 AM
It's not a Walsall route, but the 126 also gets Enviro 400's on it on occasion, albeit I've only ever seen the Hybrid ones on there.
Obviously your not going to see standard E400 on there, because Wolverhampton don't have any!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on October 04, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2017, 04:13:58 PM
As Hybrids are the only other compliant Decker WN have.

Ah, didn't think of that, cheers. Are Tridents compliant or not, since the 126 used to be operated by them iirc, or was the regulations changed around the time it became a Platinum route?

Quote from: 2206 on October 04, 2017, 04:48:26 PM
Obviously your not going to see standard E400 on there, because Wolverhampton don't have any!

Didn't know that, thanks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 04, 2017, 07:35:37 PM
Quote from: DJ98 on October 04, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
Ah, didn't think of that, cheers. Are Tridents compliant or not, since the 126 used to be operated by them iirc, or was the regulations changed around the time it became a Platinum route?
They don't have traps so are Euro 3.
Any bus service entering Birmingham City Centre has to use Euro 4+ vehicles. Routes with less than 3 buses per hour with frequencies of every 30 minutes or less, like the X70 and A52 are excluded from it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 04, 2017, 07:36:28 PM
Quote from: DJ98 on October 04, 2017, 06:57:23 PM
Ah, didn't think of that, cheers. Are Tridents compliant or not, since the 126 used to be operated by them iirc, or was the regulations changed around the time it became a Platinum route.
Tridents aren't compliant. Plattys were on the 126 in September 2016 before the more recent rules came in May. Hybrids are now used instead of Tridents.

Quote from: 2206 on October 04, 2017, 07:35:37 PM
They don't have traps so are Euro 3.
Any bus service entering Birmingham City Centre has to use Euro 4+ vehicles. Routes with less than 3 buses per hour with frequencies of every 30 minutes or less, like the X70 and A52 are excluded from it.
WB 89 is every 30 Minutes, see's any ALX400, compliant or not.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: V89MOA on October 04, 2017, 07:41:15 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 04, 2017, 07:36:28 PM
Tridents aren't compliant. Plattys were on the 126 in September 2016 before the more recent rules came in May. Hybrids are now used instead of Tridents.
4586 is compliant but the chances of it being available in the event of a breakdown are very slim!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin2017 on October 05, 2017, 12:36:02 AM
Are the Tridents allowed on the 529s? they used to have such a nice fleet or ZFs.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on October 05, 2017, 01:16:45 AM
Quote from: V89MOA on October 04, 2017, 07:41:15 PM
4586 is compliant but the chances of it being available in the event of a breakdown are very slim!

Is that a 'prototype' one off from the non-Birmingham garaged members of that batch or is their a ongoing programme planned?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on October 05, 2017, 01:36:41 AM
Quote from: don on October 05, 2017, 01:16:45 AM
Is that a 'prototype' one off from the non-Birmingham garaged members of that batch or is their a ongoing programme planned?

I think it had a new engine fitted at one point. I think it's Euro 4. Or is that 4186? There was a swap between 4175 and 4186 years ago because one was fitted with an AdBlue tank. They were swapped from BC and WN. I may be confusing 4186 and 4586.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 05, 2017, 08:57:42 AM
Quote from: Kevin2017 on October 05, 2017, 12:36:02 AM
Are the Tridents allowed on the 529s? they used to have such a nice fleet or ZFs.

Tridents are fine on 529. They often appear on the route. I had 4545 yesterday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: V89MOA on October 05, 2017, 10:02:02 AM
Quote from: MW on October 05, 2017, 01:36:41 AM
I think it had a new engine fitted at one point. I think it's Euro 4. Or is that 4186? There was a swap between 4175 and 4186 years ago because one was fitted with an AdBlue tank. They were swapped from BC and WN. I may be confusing 4186 and 4586.

Both 4186 and 4586 have a newer Euro 4 engine, 4586 was a one off done years ago.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 05, 2017, 03:38:55 PM
Quote from: MW on October 05, 2017, 01:36:41 AM
I think it had a new engine fitted at one point. I think it's Euro 4. Or is that 4186? There was a swap between 4175 and 4186 years ago because one was fitted with an AdBlue tank. They were swapped from BC and WN. I may be confusing 4186 and 4586.
4148/4166/4172/4176/4177/4178/4179/4185/4186/4586/4619/4633/4634 are the Euro 4's. TBH it's shame they didn't do more ZF's, as they sound superb. The Euro 4 Voiths sound quirky. All were done during 2011/2012.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 07, 2017, 07:44:46 PM
1859 has had route branding applied for the 4 corridor.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 07, 2017, 08:33:12 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 07, 2017, 07:44:46 PM
1859 has had route branding applied for the 4 corridor.

I have seen the pictures and the first impressions from me aren't good. Will have a look in person when it comes out so I can make a proper judgement.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 07, 2017, 09:03:25 PM
@Nathan do you have a picture?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 08, 2017, 12:17:54 AM
Are the Scanias that had the screens inside the bus for the 4 group being rebranded for the 4 once they are crimsoned?

One of those was on the 11 / 13 the other day with the screen stuck on the '4' description.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 08, 2017, 10:34:08 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 08, 2017, 12:17:54 AM
Are the Scanias that had the screens inside the bus for the 4 group being rebranded for the 4 once they are crimsoned?

One of those was on the 11 / 13 the other day with the screen stuck on the '4' description.
1848-1862 and 1878-1880 were the ones branded so I'd say those will be branded again. Correct me if I'm wrong but do 1881/2 have the announcements for the 4?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 09, 2017, 09:40:13 AM
Quote from: Jack on October 08, 2017, 10:34:08 AM
1848-1862 and 1878-1880 were the ones branded so I'd say those will be branded again. Correct me if I'm wrong but do 1881/2 have the announcements for the 4?

I'm sure 1880 has announcements
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on October 09, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Can't remember about 1880 but 1878/79 did
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 09, 2017, 03:17:33 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 09, 2017, 09:40:13 AM
I'm sure 1880 has announcements

Quote from: Busman Jamie on October 09, 2017, 10:50:56 AM
Can't remember about 1880 but 1878/79 did
All the previous branded Omnilinks did. But I'm positive 1881/2 have them as spares.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mercedes1665 on October 10, 2017, 10:13:32 PM
4H got a bit lost this morning missed its turning instead of going dunstall road carried on towards the Lutley oak pub. Couldn't get fleet number was to far.

It was between 8:22 to 8:28

Can Tony confirm this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 11, 2017, 06:55:43 AM
4734 covering 2nd Cannock X51 this morning.

(Normally the cover is a 48xx!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 11, 2017, 08:17:56 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 11, 2017, 06:55:43 AM
4734 covering 2nd Cannock X51 this morning.

(Normally the cover is a 48xx!)

The alternative vehicles are either 4733-37 or 4869-70.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 12, 2017, 05:00:30 PM
Why to this day do some Platinum drivers still relent when idiots want to get off the X51 in Newtown?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on October 12, 2017, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 12, 2017, 05:00:30 PM
Why to this day do some Platinum drivers still relent when idiots want to get off the X51 in Newtown?
its called conflict avoidance
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 14, 2017, 10:22:37 AM
Quote from: Mercedes1665 on October 10, 2017, 10:13:32 PM
4H got a bit lost this morning missed its turning instead of going dunstall road carried on towards the Lutley oak pub. Couldn't get fleet number was to far.

It was between 8:22 to 8:28

Can Tony confirm this?

Why grass? Everybody makes mistakes...

1848 now branded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 14, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 14, 2017, 10:22:37 AM
Why grass? Everybody makes mistakes...

1848 now branded

I wouldn't have classed him as grassing merely stating
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on October 14, 2017, 01:15:45 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on October 14, 2017, 10:22:37 AM
Why grass? Everybody makes mistakes...

1848 now branded

Has been all week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on October 14, 2017, 06:53:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 14, 2017, 11:50:50 AM
I wouldn't have classed him as grassing merely stating

Why would you need Tony to confirm it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on October 14, 2017, 07:20:52 PM
I went the wrong way down the 31 route once. Towards City I basically went all the way down Gospel Lane instead of going through the estate. I only realised when I noticed trees smacking into the top of the bus only to realise S*IT I've gone off route. Just blended it off and continued on the normal line of route. I did press the radio button but nobody responded, so I thought screw it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on October 14, 2017, 08:19:48 PM
Quote from: MW on October 14, 2017, 07:20:52 PM
I went the wrong way down the 31 route once. Towards City I basically went all the way down Gospel Lane instead of going through the estate. I only realised when I noticed trees smacking into the top of the bus only to realise S*IT I've gone off route. Just blended it off and continued on the normal line of route. I did press the radio button but nobody responded, so I thought screw it.

You thought 'screw it' meanwhile at the bus stops on Severne Road...

(https://i.stack.imgur.com/WsC4R.png)

:D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on October 14, 2017, 09:17:41 PM
Quote from: Stu on October 14, 2017, 08:19:48 PM
You thought 'screw it' meanwhile at the bus stops on Severne Road...

:D

@Stu lol I did think that at the time. There was nothing I could do really. I did think about going via the 1 route (Pollard Road/Pool Farm Road) left onto Shirley Road, left onto Lakey Lane, back into the Gospel and then left onto Broom Hall Crescent. The reason I didn't was drivers basically seem to get into trouble for using their initiative in my experience. I didn't get a reply so continued on.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jordan on October 15, 2017, 04:06:11 PM
its just a question but the x51 that goes to cannock from birmingham does that do a return journey to birmingham after or does it go back to the garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 15, 2017, 04:17:10 PM
Quote from: Jordan on October 15, 2017, 04:06:11 PM
its just a question but the x51 that goes to cannock from birmingham does that do a return journey to birmingham after or does it go back to the garage
Return journey to Bloxwich only.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 15, 2017, 07:16:46 PM
Were any Walsall routes diverted today due to the incident last night in town?

I did come down, to go to Aston Manor, but I only used Lichfield Street North towards the Arbo & the shuttle bus came back via Littleton Street & Stafford Street as usual & the only closure I saw was Upper Forster St.

What about services using Lichfield St & Bridge St?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 15, 2017, 07:21:45 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 15, 2017, 07:16:46 PM
Were any Walsall routes diverted today due to the incident last night in town?

I did come down, to go to Aston Manor, but I only used Lichfield Street North towards the Arbo & the shuttle bus came back via Littleton Street & Stafford Street as usual & the only closure I saw was Upper Forster St.

What about services using Lichfield St & Bridge St?
The 51 was going round the ring road. I saw a 10 going on the ring road and following the 301/2 into Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 15, 2017, 10:41:17 PM
So looks like Rushall direction routes were diverting via Littleton St or Lichfield St / Hatherton Rd.

The Bridge St routes, thinking about it, surely would have had a problem accessing Walsall BS surely, if the cordon is where  I think it is, unless just Leicester St was blocked off, as parts of Lichfield St, according to the telly, were blocked as well.

Didnt see anything on Twitter about it!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 06:25:53 PM
Have nx ever considered splitting the 4H Hayley-green to West Brom 4 West Brom- walsall during the roadworks? Seems logical to me
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on October 17, 2017, 06:39:42 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 06:25:53 PM
Have nx ever considered splitting the 4H Hayley-green to West Brom 4 West Brom- walsall during the roadworks? Seems logical to me

Why on earth would they do that?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 06:58:52 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on October 17, 2017, 06:39:42 PM
Why on earth would they do that?

Have you seen the reliability of the 4H/4M it's nothing short of diabolical
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 17, 2017, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 06:58:52 PM
Have you seen the reliability of the 4H/4M it's nothing short of diabolical

Then diamond get more passengers unless they do the same the diamond 4H must be diabolical then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on October 17, 2017, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 06:58:52 PM
Have you seen the reliability of the 4H/4M it's nothing short of diabolical

Is it? It gets caught around Birchley Island but because of dropback it makes the time up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 08:46:22 PM
Quote from: Dom on October 17, 2017, 07:56:26 PM
Is it? It gets caught around Birchley Island but because of dropback it makes the time up.

I don't think it does especially at peaks and diamond are good during the day but at peaks also have difficulties
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 17, 2017, 08:51:09 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 08:46:22 PM
I don't think it does especially at peaks and diamond are good during the day but at peaks also have difficulties

Please tell me how Diamond avoid the traffic jams at Birchley crossing then if they are better than NXWM
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 09:34:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 17, 2017, 08:51:09 PM
Please tell me how Diamond avoid the traffic jams at Birchley crossing then if they are better than NXWM

It's something to do with the speed of the bus maybe, and also the fact diamond buses don't take years to open and close doors
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 17, 2017, 10:08:50 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 09:34:45 PM
It's something to do with the speed of the bus maybe, and also the fact diamond buses don't take years to open and close doors
So your saying Diamonds are faster than NX crossing Birchley? No it takes the exact same time sitting in stationary traffic on Churchbridge. Diamonds door are pretty much the exact same speed as NX's doors.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 17, 2017, 10:14:09 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 17, 2017, 09:34:45 PM
It's something to do with the speed of the bus maybe, and also the fact diamond buses don't take years to open and close doors

Or the fact you don't actually know what time each Diamond bus is due, so if a bus arrives on the time the following one is due you think it's on time.

Your othrr comments are just complete stupidity
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on October 17, 2017, 11:04:45 PM
Also there is four way traffic lights bottom of Coombs wood affecting both dia and nx
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 18, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
1859 now branded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 18, 2017, 03:19:37 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 18, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
1859 now branded
1859 was the first branded and has been for 2 weeks! Surely you've seen it with branding before now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 18, 2017, 04:53:33 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 18, 2017, 02:58:03 PM
1859 now branded

See reply #3796 on page 254

Quote from: Nathan on October 07, 2017, 07:44:46 PM
1859 has had route branding applied for the 4 corridor.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on October 18, 2017, 05:19:38 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 07, 2017, 07:44:46 PM
1859 has had route branding applied for the 4 corridor.
how many are now route branded for the 4 service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: S570 on October 18, 2017, 06:45:22 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on October 17, 2017, 11:04:45 PM
Also there is four way traffic lights bottom of Coombs wood affecting both dia and nx

A diamond 4H passed me going up Hereward Rise yesterday morning, must have saved a good few minutes not waiting at the lights. :P

They were gone this afternoon so that should clear some of the congestion.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on October 22, 2017, 10:24:41 AM
1770 is operating the first nx 35 service to Aldridge.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 22, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
Quote from: WMT3000 on October 22, 2017, 10:24:41 AM
1770 is operating the first nx 35 service to Aldridge.

1773 is the second 35/77 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 22, 2017, 11:59:35 AM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 22, 2017, 11:16:39 AM
1773 is the second 35/77 today.

Been swapped for 6723 now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 22, 2017, 07:40:48 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 22, 2017, 11:59:35 AM
Been swapped for 6723 now.

Volvo B7RLe is vehicle type for 35/77

1849/1879 now branded for the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on October 24, 2017, 08:09:32 PM
Has Walsall garage thread had a falling out with the other garages @Tony @Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 27, 2017, 04:27:59 PM
4737 - 934/5/7
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 29, 2017, 04:24:25 PM
Do you know what 4737 has been doing @Tony? I passed it on Wood End Road in Erdington at approximatley 15:45 while on 4662 on the 11C, it was Comming from the direction of Ward End and going towards Six Ways, following benhond a 11 branded Gemini on the 11C.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 29, 2017, 05:42:37 PM
Quote from: 2206 on October 29, 2017, 04:24:25 PM
Do you know what 4737 has been doing @Tony? I passed it on Wood End Road in Erdington at approximatley 15:45 while on 4662 on the 11C, it was Comming from the direction of Ward End and going towards Six Ways, following benhond a 11 branded Gemini on the 11C.
Isn't that fitted with a tacho? Probably doing a Private Hire?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 30, 2017, 06:24:02 PM
Did the 7:56 4H from Halesowen to walsall not turn up?? I waited for ages and it said 3 mins on tracker but never turned up?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on November 02, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
Laughable how many people dive off an X51 when they see an orange hi viz pulling the bus over
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 03, 2017, 08:53:20 AM
Quote from: Dom on November 02, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
Laughable how many people dive off an X51 when they see an orange hi viz pulling the bus over

That the stop it isn't even meant to stop at just before Lancaster Circus?
Strange how many people suddenly need that stop when it gets pulled over
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 03, 2017, 09:12:17 AM
Quote from: Dom on November 02, 2017, 04:28:12 PM
Laughable how many people dive off an X51 when they see an orange hi viz pulling the bus over

You shouldn't have been stopping the X51s there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on November 03, 2017, 09:32:11 AM
Quote from: Tony on November 03, 2017, 09:12:17 AM
You shouldn't have been stopping the X51s there

Yes we were. Prior permission was granted.

We were instructed to count everything except the FD and CG.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 05, 2017, 03:53:59 PM
1854 now 4 branded.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on November 05, 2017, 04:43:10 PM
Quote from: Jordan on November 05, 2017, 03:45:18 PM
6720 on WA35
This is the 3rd week NX have operated the WA 35 and WA 77 on a Sunday and so far an E400 MMC has been on the 35/77 every week, is it really unusual if it's happening every week?
6748 last week and 6723 the week before.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 05, 2017, 05:34:36 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 05, 2017, 04:43:10 PM
This is the 3rd week NX have operated the WA 35 and WA 77 on a Sunday and so far an E400 MMC has been on the 35/77 every week, is it really unusual if it's happening every week?
6748 last week and 6723 the week before.

Presumbly its a better vehicle than what is on the 35 during the week!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 05, 2017, 06:47:29 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 05, 2017, 04:43:10 PM
This is the 3rd week NX have operated the WA 35 and WA 77 on a Sunday and so far an E400 MMC has been on the 35/77 every week, is it really unusual if it's happening every week?
6748 last week and 6723 the week before.

It was mentioned when they started that they were booked as Eclipses
But seeing as they've been solid Platinum perhaps that has changed already
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 05, 2017, 06:50:35 PM
Quote from: Kevin on November 05, 2017, 06:47:29 PM
It was mentioned when they started that they were booked as Eclipses
But seeing as they've been solid Platinum perhaps that has changed already

Because they are the most fuel efficient vehicles, Platinums are being used by WN & WA on lots of services on Sundays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 05, 2017, 10:48:46 PM
I read something in a Buses magazine years ago that was an article on WMT, as it was then, when discussing tendered services, said they were selective over what journeys they bid for, as the cheap buses used were disappearing from the fleet.

I took that to be the Nationals & Fleetlines, as they were the older vehicles at the time!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 06, 2017, 10:55:15 AM
Quote from: Westy on November 05, 2017, 10:48:46 PM
I read something in a Buses magazine years ago that was an article on WMT, as it was then, when discussing tendered services, said they were selective over what journeys they bid for, as the cheap buses used were disappearing from the fleet.

I took that to be the Nationals & Fleetlines, as they were the older vehicles at the time!

Could also be the metro riders they started disappearing 1996 onwards
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 09, 2017, 06:47:25 PM
Any chance of looking at the front display of 860 as it was supposed to be displaying 'Walsall via Bloxwich 301' this evening, but the display I saw looked nothing like it!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on November 11, 2017, 03:04:13 PM
Been like it for a while
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on November 12, 2017, 04:04:46 PM
Just would like to praise the drivers on the 4H. Despite their late runnings, the drivers always are extremely polite and will occasionally wait for you if you show your intentions of trying to board the bus. I know I've said this before but overall they seem a lot happier than PN drivers who well let's say look like they would rather not be driving.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on November 14, 2017, 04:27:43 PM
2 4H in convoy at 10:15 in Halesowen bus station both red and white scanias
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on November 14, 2017, 04:30:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 14, 2017, 04:27:43 PM
2 4H in convoy at 10:15 in Halesowen bus station both red and white scanias
Imagine if we all listed every convey of 2 we saw.
It'd just clog up the forum, i've seen loads of conveys of 2 today, 4300 and 4504 on the 11C this morning and 4674, 4231 and 4509 at the Fox and Goose on the 11A at about 17:00 this evening and lots of others aswell.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on November 14, 2017, 05:05:20 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 14, 2017, 04:30:51 PM
Imagine if we all listed every convey of 2 we saw.
It'd just clog up the forum, i've seen loads of conveys of 2 today, 4300 and 4504 on the 11C and lots of others.

Yeah, it happens pretty much every day somewhere on the network, not really noteworthy. I saw two WA13's in convoy this evening, and I usually end up in front or behind another 79 some mornings too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on November 14, 2017, 05:24:51 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 14, 2017, 04:30:51 PM
Imagine if we all listed every convey of 2 we saw.
It'd just clog up the forum, i've seen loads of conveys of 2 today, 4300 and 4504 on the 11C and lots of others.

Except for the 4H is every 20 mins not every 8 or whatever the 11 is
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on November 16, 2017, 03:26:29 PM
For some reason the 997's from Dyas rd toward pheasey are all late and the 28e not shown up again either. Any reason why?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on November 16, 2017, 06:57:07 PM
Are there any issues with the 11/13 tonight? 1848 13 from outside Wood Green High School hasn't turned up and the stop's display says the next bus isn't until 1936, so I'm guessing the 1906 isn't coming either...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on November 20, 2017, 02:53:51 PM
Nx 4H got lost round Loop today 7:52 from Halesowen to loop I presume
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on December 12, 2017, 12:53:23 PM
Quote from: 900 on December 12, 2017, 12:43:22 PM
1852 on WA36

Can full size singles even get around Alumwell?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Walsall1955 on December 12, 2017, 01:39:19 PM
Quote from: Kevin on December 12, 2017, 12:53:23 PM
Can full size singles even get around Alumwell?
I once photographed a Leyland Lynx on 336...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4846257374/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: barry on December 19, 2017, 08:01:57 AM
Considering 1878 is fresh out of the paint shop the offside looks decidedly battered. Looks like it's had a panel change but there also looks to be some filler repair just below the windows towards the rear. Thought it looked quite tatty... mind you it was also covered in road grime too!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on December 29, 2017, 09:25:56 PM
is 1858 & 1887 back out from the paint shop as 1856 is out
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 29, 2017, 09:39:50 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on December 29, 2017, 09:25:56 PM
is 1858 & 1887 back out from the paint shop as 1856 is out
The 'Repaints and Retrims' thread will help you there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on December 30, 2017, 01:09:56 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on December 29, 2017, 09:25:56 PM
is 1858 & 1887 back out from the paint shop as 1856 is out

Unlikely, the paintshop is normally closed prior to Xmas until early Jan.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 31, 2017, 07:35:51 PM
Tomorrow I am driving the 10:20 420 service from Wolverhampton (10:40 from Dudley) to London. Only day of the year Walsall coaches get into Wolverhampton & Dudley Bus stations if anyone want a photo of a Walsall coach somewhere different!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 01, 2018, 05:37:27 PM
Has any of the 'proper' 301 / 302 branded vehicles been operating on the route today?

Had to slip up to Bloxwich Asda briefly earlier, & I saw 2 Scanias, one a 4 branded & one plain on the route.

(Saw a similar thing a few weeks back as well!)

Also something else, which I will have to get confirmed by my sister when she comes in from work, but was the 932am 89 from Bloxwich to Wolves supposed to run today, as according to my mom, my sister had checked the app before she was due to go out & the first bus was apparently after 10am!

So she had to get a taxi instead.

Was there an app issue?

(She is now relying on that 1805 from Wolves to Bloxwich, to get home, otherwise the local taxi firm gets a call!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 01, 2018, 06:06:43 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 01, 2018, 05:37:27 PM
Has any of the 'proper' 301 / 302 branded vehicles been operating on the route today?

Had to slip up to Bloxwich Asda briefly earlier, & I saw 2 Scanias, one a 4 branded & one plain on the route.

(Saw a similar thing a few weeks back as well!)

Also something else, which I will have to get confirmed by my sister when she comes in from work, but was the 932am 89 from Bloxwich to Wolves supposed to run today, as according to my mom, my sister had checked the app before she was due to go out & the first bus was apparently after 10am!

So she had to get a taxi instead.

Was there an app issue?

(She is now relying on that 1805 from Wolves to Bloxwich, to get home, otherwise the local taxi firm gets a call!)

301/2 is now allocated Scania's on a Sunday allocation as per Head Office instructions. That's why you'll see 4 branded ones on there near enough every Sunday...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on January 01, 2018, 06:10:53 PM
Don't forget Walsall is the next garage having new ticket machines fitted so some buses might be being kept back for the new machines to be fitted
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on January 01, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 01, 2018, 05:37:27 PM
Also something else, which I will have to get confirmed by my sister when she comes in from work, but was the 932am 89 from Bloxwich to Wolves supposed to run today, as according to my mom, my sister had checked the app before she was due to go out & the first bus was apparently after 10am!

So she had to get a taxi instead.

Was there an app issue?

(She is now relying on that 1805 from Wolves to Bloxwich, to get home, otherwise the local taxi firm gets a call!)

No, 09:32 from Bloxwich did not operate today. Today, 89 started at 10:05 from Walsall and Wolverhampton. Last departure was 18:05 from Walsall and Wolverhampton as 89E to Bloxwich. Next time next year, I advise you to look on the timetable on networkwestmidlands.com - Timetable for 89. (https://journeyplanner.networkwestmidlands.com/Timetables/Download/cen_33089_L_H_y11/6/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_89/True)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 01, 2018, 07:13:53 PM
One can presume the scanias are more fuel efficient than the b7rles mk1 then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 01, 2018, 08:42:44 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 01, 2018, 07:13:53 PM
One can presume the scanias are more fuel efficient than the b7rles mk1 then?
Aren't the MK2 B7RLE's more fuel efficient than the both of them. I know WA don't have as many though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin2017 on January 01, 2018, 09:22:41 PM
As answered in a  PM from some one earlier, WA use all their newer vehicles on a Sunday schedule, due to reliability etc

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on January 01, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
The fuel gauges on the Scanias are hilarious, as I'm sure any of the relevant drivers on the forum can confirm.

I speak in relation to the 1909-1953 batch. The gauge constantly going up and down. It might be full then it might be 3/4 then it might be half and then it'll be full again! Every single Scania I drove was like that.

Scanias in general tend to do less miles per gallon than other manufacturers from what I've read somewhere. I do remember seeing figures like 7 mpg on the trip computer on them, although that wouldn't be accurate.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 01, 2018, 10:29:29 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on January 01, 2018, 06:49:47 PM
No, 09:32 from Bloxwich did not operate today. Today, 89 started at 10:05 from Walsall and Wolverhampton. Last departure was 18:05 from Walsall and Wolverhampton as 89E to Bloxwich. Next time next year, I advise you to look on the timetable on networkwestmidlands.com - Timetable for 89. (https://journeyplanner.networkwestmidlands.com/Timetables/Download/cen_33089_L_H_y11/6/National%20Express%20West%20Midlands_89/True)

We looked at Nx's own web site & we looked at the New Year's day changes as well, & that said there was a 932 from Bloxwich to Wolves !

http://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2017-timetables/New-Years-Day/W89_1Jan18.pdf

Someone was wrong then & it wasn't us!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin2017 on January 01, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
Atleast Diamond let us view tracker now to see if a bus is actually out Real Time, rather then silly non Real time apps that just have a typical Timetabled times on it etc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 01, 2018, 11:07:43 PM
Quote from: Kevin2017 on January 01, 2018, 11:05:06 PM
Atleast Diamond let us view tracker now to see if a bus is actually out Real Time, rather then silly non Real time apps that just have a typical Timetabled times on it etc

What you on about? I must admit nx tracking system is far superior to diamonds currently.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 01, 2018, 11:19:49 PM
Quote from: MW on January 01, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
The fuel gauges on the Scanias are hilarious, as I'm sure any of the relevant drivers on the forum can confirm.

I speak in relation to the 1909-1953 batch. The gauge constantly going up and down. It might be full then it might be 3/4 then it might be half and then it'll be full again! Every single Scania I drove was like that.

Scanias in general tend to do less miles per gallon than other manufacturers from what I've read somewhere. I do remember seeing figures like 7 mpg on the trip computer on them, although that wouldn't be accurate.
I presume the Ex Dundee Omnilinks will be like that, they were part of the same batch. I thought the Omnilinks were heavy on fuel, the Omnicitys and Bendy Scania's were/are extremely high on fuel I've been told.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on January 01, 2018, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: MW on January 01, 2018, 09:27:43 PM
The fuel gauges on the Scanias are hilarious, as I'm sure any of the relevant drivers on the forum can confirm.

I speak in relation to the 1909-1953 batch. The gauge constantly going up and down. It might be full then it might be 3/4 then it might be half and then it'll be full again! Every single Scania I drove was like that.

Scanias in general tend to do less miles per gallon than other manufacturers from what I've read somewhere. I do remember seeing figures like 7 mpg on the trip computer on them, although that wouldn't be accurate.

Same on the E200s, happens with both fuel and the ad blue gauges on the display.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 03, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
@Michael Bevan are you sure 1897 is on the 51? On Tony's repaint list it's suppose to be in for repaint for refurb?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 03, 2018, 06:03:51 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 03, 2018, 06:01:30 PM
@Michael Bevan are you sure 1897 is on the 51? On Tony's repaint list it's suppose to be in for repaint for refurb?

I'm 100% sure...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on January 03, 2018, 06:53:46 PM
Michael is right.... I've seen the picture ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 03, 2018, 07:36:23 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on January 03, 2018, 06:53:46 PM
Michael is right.... I've seen the picture ;)

Misinformation on the repaint list. WA ones can't be identified from the tracker as they are already there. It was in the body bay, must of just been having a new panel
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 20, 2018, 02:30:03 PM
Catching the 89 between Pelsall & Bloxwich earlier & going through Pelsall Wood reminded me that I've heard nothing recently about the locals complaining about the use of double deckers on that strech of route for privacy reasons.

Was that finally resolved?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on January 20, 2018, 07:24:17 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 20, 2018, 02:30:03 PM
Catching the 89 between Pelsall & Bloxwich earlier & going through Pelsall Wood reminded me that I've heard nothing recently about the locals complaining about the use of double deckers on that strech of route for privacy reasons.

Was that finally resolved?

Privacy reasons?! Put some bloody net curtains up and stop whinging.

I live on a bus free road, apart from once a week when a Green Bus double decker drives past. Maybe I should complain, it's quite a shock waking up, getting out of bed and seeing that drive past!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on January 20, 2018, 07:41:55 PM
Been told some very strong rumors regarding the 8 and the 89 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on January 20, 2018, 07:53:18 PM
Quote from: Dom on January 20, 2018, 07:41:55 PM
Been told some very strong rumors regarding the 8 and the 89 today.

Whatever it is, I will wait and see what happens then. Rumours are not always reliable.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 20, 2018, 08:43:59 PM
Whatever it is, I hope it doesn't changing the buses between Bloxwich & Wednesfield, because my sister will moan again!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on January 22, 2018, 11:22:57 AM
Saw 4594 on Willenhall Road about 20 minutes ago. I presume that was for the drivers route learning the 89?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 27, 2018, 11:35:39 AM
Couple of red and white scanias on 4H if of any interest to anyone.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on January 30, 2018, 10:26:44 PM
Service changes on 10A starting tomorrow (31/1/18). See here (http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-alerts/service-10a-changes-wednesday-31st-january-2018).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on January 31, 2018, 12:20:56 PM
Changes to Darlaston services in the latest TFWM service change email
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on January 31, 2018, 01:23:15 PM
34 to terminate at Bilston.
37 daytime mon-sat journeys are withdrawn.
39 extended to cover stowlawn.

Also some changes for the suttons, all Sutton line services will have a flexible route in place between Aston Uni and Graveley Hil.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 31, 2018, 06:53:39 PM
Would be nice for TfWm to include Thandi's daytime journeys in replacement for Nx's in the printed timetable.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on January 31, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
So thandi has won on 37.  Why didn't  nx bus change the times
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 31, 2018, 10:14:02 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 31, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
So thandi has won on 37.  Why didn't  nx bus change the times

Ive noticed them running close together.

Things must be bad if Thandi can beat Nx.

Dunno about the southern section but the northern section should be quicker between Bentley & Willenhall compared to the 41, while the middle section (Bentley Road North & Queen Liz Avenue) is a short walk to the 529 route, as I can testify.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 01, 2018, 05:34:53 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 31, 2018, 10:14:02 PM
Ive noticed them running close together.

Things must be bad if Thandi can beat Nx.

Dunno about the southern section but the northern section should be quicker between Bentley & Willenhall compared to the 41, while the middle section (Bentley Road North & Queen Liz Avenue) is a short walk to the 529 route, as I can testify.

Whats to say Thandi are 'beating' NX. Maybe NX have decided that they do not wish to operate the 37 as perhaps it's not as profitable as first expected? And to be honest when you have cowboys like Thandi running aroud 2 minutes in front its not a surprise they pull passengers on.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 01, 2018, 05:36:25 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 31, 2018, 07:10:51 PM
So thandi has won on 37.  Why didn't  nx bus change the times

Thandi hasn't won the 37. The 37 is only tendered in the evenings and Sunday daytime.

Regarding changing the times, why would NX bother doing so when Thandi will just follow  suit which ks exactly what they've done on the 334 for years and more recently the 311 and short lived 313. I expect the same will happen when they come on the 39.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 01, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Perhaps TfWm should do more co-ordinated timetables like they do on the 4?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Cheese on February 01, 2018, 01:15:07 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 01, 2018, 12:42:38 PM
Perhaps TfWm should do more co-ordinated timetables like they do on the 4?

Do operators pay TfWM to provide the publicity? Can't remember if they do or not but would suggest that maybe Thandi etc don't want to pay TfWM so they don't publicise them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 01, 2018, 06:21:52 PM
Quote from: Cheese on February 01, 2018, 01:15:07 PM
Do operators pay TfWM to provide the publicity? Can't remember if they do or not but would suggest that maybe Thandi etc don't want to pay TfWM so they don't publicise them.

Thandi obviously do not want passengers then, if they can afford to finish around 5pm & not publicise their services!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on February 01, 2018, 07:15:53 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 01, 2018, 06:21:52 PM
Thandi obviously do not want passengers then, if they can afford to finish around 5pm & not publicise their services!
not another 5pm finish mention
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 04, 2018, 09:27:36 PM
Quote from: Kevin2017 on January 01, 2018, 09:22:41 PM
As answered in a  PM from some one earlier, WA use all their newer vehicles on a Sunday schedule, due to reliability etc

Would these be the following types only ? :

Scanias

E200

E400

Platties

Eclipse Mk2's only , assuming no Mk 1's are out?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on February 05, 2018, 08:08:43 AM
Quote from: Westy on February 04, 2018, 09:27:36 PM
Would these be the following types only ? :

Scanias

E200

E400

Platties

Eclipse Mk2's only , assuming no Mk 1's are out?

Mmc, e200 and Scania
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 05, 2018, 08:11:33 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on February 05, 2018, 08:08:43 AM
Mmc, e200 and Scania

And standard E400
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 06, 2018, 12:48:52 PM
Noticed 860's display was knackered again on the Alumwell service while I was in Walsall yesterday!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 10, 2018, 04:03:24 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 06, 2018, 12:48:52 PM
Noticed 860's display was knackered again on the Alumwell service while I was in Walsall yesterday!
Was like that again today on the 36.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 10, 2018, 04:17:33 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 06, 2018, 12:48:52 PM
Noticed 860's display was knackered again on the Alumwell service while I was in Walsall yesterday!

It's been like it for a good few months now...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 10, 2018, 04:30:50 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 10, 2018, 04:17:33 PM
It's been like it for a good few months now...

Was fine when it was on the 301 when I was working on Walsall Bus Station the other evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on February 10, 2018, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: Dom on February 10, 2018, 04:30:50 PM
Was fine when it was on the 301 when I was working on Walsall Bus Station the other evening.

Not everything is screwed up permanently, you know...
And for the record, it was like that Thursday. Glitches out seemingly, meaning the lower line seems to ''jump'' to the top, overlapping it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 10, 2018, 10:50:34 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 10, 2018, 10:49:20 PM
Not everything is screwed up permanently, you know...
And for the record, it was like that Thursday. Glitches out seemingly, meaning the lower line seems to ''jump'' to the top, overlapping it.

I've got a photo of it on the 10/A a few months ago too...And it was exactly the same...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ChrisMcCarthy on February 10, 2018, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 10, 2018, 10:50:34 PM
I've got a photo of it on the 10/A a few months ago too...And it was exactly the same...

It has its moments, some days its fine others its not.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 10, 2018, 10:56:40 PM
So is it going to be looked at, at some point?

In the old days, they would have shoved a piece of paper in the front windscreen.

I suppose that's probably not allowed now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ChrisMcCarthy on February 10, 2018, 11:00:36 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 10, 2018, 10:56:40 PM
So is it going to be looked at, at some point?

In the old days, they would have shoved a piece of paper in the front windscreen.

I suppose that's probably not allowed now?

Trouble is, when the engineers go to look at it its fine and doesn't have an issue.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 10, 2018, 11:00:47 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 10, 2018, 10:56:40 PM
So is it going to be looked at, at some point?

In the old days, they would have shoved a piece of paper in the front windscreen.

I suppose that's probably not allowed now?

I've seen paper used quite recently. Actually I remember it happening in the first few weeks of the 35 being operated by NX. As some of the Platinum's still had "35 Alumwell Circular" on the blinds, I remember one Sunday they put a paper "35" blind in one.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 11, 2018, 01:15:30 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 10, 2018, 11:00:47 PM
I've seen paper used quite recently. Actually I remember it happening in the first few weeks of the 35 being operated by NX. As some of the Platinum's still had "35 Alumwell Circular" on the blinds, I remember one Sunday they put a paper "35" blind in one.

Why would the 35 be programmed in as the Alumwell route?

Cancelled renumbering scheme?

(Does that mean the 9 that was going to replace the 89 & the 31 & 32 which would've replaced the 301 & 302 are still in the system or not?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 11, 2018, 01:36:50 AM
Quote from: Westy on February 11, 2018, 01:15:30 AM
Why would the 35 be programmed in as the Alumwell route?

Cancelled renumbering scheme?

(Does that mean the 9 that was going to replace the 89 & the 31 & 32 which would've replaced the 301 & 302 are still in the system or not?)

Blinds on some Walsall buses have not been updated so still show the old 35 route instead of the current one
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 11, 2018, 09:39:19 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 10, 2018, 11:00:47 PM
I've seen paper used quite recently. Actually I remember it happening in the first few weeks of the 35 being operated by NX. As some of the Platinum's still had "35 Alumwell Circular" on the blinds, I remember one Sunday they put a paper "35" blind in one.

Lets hope we weren't watching them then! That doesn't go down well with our department.

And before anyone says it, the same goes for any other operator.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 11, 2018, 11:26:17 AM
Quote from: Dom on February 11, 2018, 09:39:19 AM
Lets hope we weren't watching them then! That doesn't go down well with our department.

And before anyone says it, the same goes for any other operator.

Would there be any exceptions to that rule, such as how Diamond loaned 20883 to Central, who had a 74A paper sign stuck in the window?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 11, 2018, 12:21:50 PM
Would all Walsall area destinations/services, irrespective of operator, be on the Walsall blind, just in case the tender is won at some point, eg would the 3A to Brownhills West be on there anyway?

Is the 2E Evening & Sunday service on the Walsall blind?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 11, 2018, 12:22:55 PM
Quote from: DJ98 on February 11, 2018, 11:26:17 AM
Would there be any exceptions to that rule, such as how Diamond loaned 20883 to Central, who had a 74A paper sign stuck in the window?

Regarding that, I wouldn't be able to be 100% sure, I'd have to speak to a supervisor.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 11, 2018, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 11, 2018, 12:21:50 PM
Would all Walsall area destinations/services, irrespective of operator, be on the Walsall blind, just in case the tender is won at some point, eg would the 3A to Brownhills West be on there anyway?

Is the 2E Evening & Sunday service on the Walsall blind?

No.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Straightlines on February 12, 2018, 08:46:52 AM
Quote from: DJ98 on February 11, 2018, 11:26:17 AM
Would there be any exceptions to that rule, such as how Diamond loaned 20883 to Central, who had a 74A paper sign stuck in the window?

No there wouldn't be, as that would involve using some common sense which isn't there strong point.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 12, 2018, 09:10:44 AM
Quote from: Straightlines on February 12, 2018, 08:46:52 AM
No there wouldn't be, as that would involve using some common sense which isn't there strong point.

Didn't know you did my job? How would you know one of our policies?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Straightlines on February 12, 2018, 09:17:35 AM
Quote from: Dom on February 12, 2018, 09:10:44 AM
Didn't know you did my job? How would you know one of our policies?

I know way more about your 'Policies' regarding Bus Service Monitoring than you will ever understand!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 12, 2018, 05:58:47 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 11, 2018, 12:21:50 PM
Would all Walsall area destinations/services, irrespective of operator, be on the Walsall blind, just in case the tender is won at some point, eg would the 3A to Brownhills West be on there anyway?

No lol its an Arriva service

Is the 2E Evening & Sunday service on the Walsall blind?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 12, 2018, 06:17:27 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 12, 2018, 05:58:47 PM


I know its an Arriva service.

Just wondered whether Nx would put them on the displays, if they won the tender.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 12, 2018, 06:35:30 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 12, 2018, 06:17:27 PM
Just wondered whether Nx would put them on the displays, if they won the tender.

They'd programme them into the displays when they had won the tender. Don't really think someone would go to all the trouble of programming in every single route if they were never likely to operate it!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dutsey on February 15, 2018, 05:47:39 AM
Ive heard rumours the 10 will no longer be running to Burntwood is that correct?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 15, 2018, 06:36:26 PM
Quote from: Dutsey on February 15, 2018, 05:47:39 AM
Ive heard rumours the 10 will no longer be running to Burntwood is that correct?

Probably would be to do with the Staffs County Council funding issue that has caused Arriva to cut their services from April 1st.

Would the service cut back to Brownhills West & run as a 10a?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Cheese on February 15, 2018, 07:17:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 15, 2018, 06:36:26 PM
Probably would be to do with the Staffs County Council funding issue that has caused Arriva to cut their services from April 1st.

Would the service cut back to Brownhills West & run as a 10a?

SCC only fund eves/Sun on the 10 (between Brownhills and Burntwood), daytime service to Burntwood is commercial.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on February 15, 2018, 07:19:57 PM
Well maybe that's where the rumour is coming from then? Perhaps evening and Sundays will be cut?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on February 17, 2018, 04:23:57 PM
2118 is on the 4 today. No idea how noteworthy but thought it was worth a mention
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 17, 2018, 06:13:33 PM
Quote from: John on February 17, 2018, 04:23:57 PM
2118 is on the 4 today. No idea how noteworthy but thought it was worth a mention

Eclipse 2's were rare in Bradford  Place when I last caught a bus there around 5 months ago.
(But that will change in a couple of weeks:( )

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 17, 2018, 06:16:00 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 17, 2018, 06:13:33 PM
Eclipse 2's were rare in Bradford  Place when I last caught a bus there around 5 months ago.
(But that will change in a couple of weeks:( )
Don't WA try and keep them off Bradford Place services? They never really stray off the 29, they are quite common on the 301/2.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 17, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 17, 2018, 06:13:33 PM
Eclipse 2's were rare in Bradford  Place when I last caught a bus there around 5 months ago.
(But that will change in a couple of weeks:( )

What's changing in a couple of weeks?

Also, don't Diamond have Eclipse 2's on the 4/4H quite regularly?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 17, 2018, 07:54:57 PM
Quote from: DJ98 on February 17, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
Also, don't Diamond have Eclipse 2's on the 4/4H quite regularly?
Everyday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 17, 2018, 08:30:26 PM
Quote from: DJ98 on February 17, 2018, 07:09:36 PM
What's changing in a couple of weeks?

Also, don't Diamond have Eclipse 2's on the 4/4H quite regularly?

My job is moving back to Great Bridge!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 17, 2018, 09:36:25 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 17, 2018, 08:30:26 PM
My job is moving back to Great Bridge!

Oh, got you, I thought you meant something was changing with the buses that meant there'd be more Eclipse 2's in Bradford Place!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 21, 2018, 06:34:23 PM
Any reason why the 2nd Cannock X51 in a morning has been a red & white Enviro so far this week?

We normally only get a red & white at least once a week!

Are we short of Platties at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 21, 2018, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 21, 2018, 06:34:23 PM
Any reason why the 2nd Cannock X51 in a morning has been a red & white Enviro so far this week?

We normally only get a red & white at least once a week!

Are we short of Platties at Walsall?
Are you going to keep mentioning the red/white E400's on the X51? I wouldn't bother, most of the time the Cannock X51's are E400's. We don't need to know this everyday! Just as annoying as when you posted Thandi not running after 5pm!

If there's no more Platniums left in garage then an E400 will be used.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
Quote from: Jack on February 21, 2018, 06:36:32 PM
Are you going to keep mentioning the red/white E400's on the X51? I wouldn't bother, most of the time the Cannock X51's are E400's. We don't need to know this everyday! Just as annoying as when you posted Thandi not running after 5pm!

If there's no more Platniums left in garage then an E400 will be used.

Do you not agree it's silly that a platinum  route is not operated solely by platinums though? If they haven't got the correct amount then don't advertise it as a platinum service. Same goes for the x10 at PN rarely is it fully platinum operated- yet advertised as a platinum route.

Also have platinum drivers lost their suits or was this got rid of ages ago?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 21, 2018, 07:21:25 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
Do you not agree it's silly that a platinum  route is not operated solely by platinums though? If they haven't got the correct amount then don't advertise it as a platinum service. Same goes for the x10 at PN rarely is it fully platinum operated- yet advertised as a platinum route.

Also have platinum drivers lost their suits or was this got rid of ages ago?
Same for the X12, three Gemini's were on it today. I guess it's better than not having any bus at all. I'd rather have the E400's on the 997 then the Platniums, just my opinion. The X1 I was on today the driver was wearing the grey tie. Haven't seen one wearing them for a while, but I doubt anybody really notices.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 21, 2018, 08:11:15 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 21, 2018, 06:34:23 PM
Any reason why the 2nd Cannock X51 in a morning has been a red & white Enviro so far this week?

We normally only get a red & white at least once a week!

Are we short of Platties at Walsall?

I think that one that does the second Cannock is a morning peak board. Does the Cannock into Birmingham, short X51 to Great Barr then 705 school. Walsall usually put standard Enviro's on these peak boards instead of all day boards. So that's probably why it has been a standard Enviro quite a bit.

Also Walsall only have 40 Platinum's for around 40 running boards (including morning and afternoon peak boards combined). So if a couple of Platinum's are off the road (which is common occurrence due to break downs etc) , Walsall will use the standard Enviro 400's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 21, 2018, 08:31:43 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2018, 06:53:48 PM
Do you not agree it's silly that a platinum  route is not operated solely by platinums though? If they haven't got the correct amount then don't advertise it as a platinum service. Same goes for the x10 at PN rarely is it fully platinum operated- yet advertised as a platinum route.

Also have platinum drivers lost their suits or was this got rid of ages ago?

If I was paying extra for the privilege of using Platinum buses I might be aggrieved.

But they don't cost any more. If I'm waiting for an X1/X2 and a standard Enviro400 or Trident turns up, I'll catch it, without complaint. I'm honestly not bothered, I just want to get on the bus that will take me where I want to go.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 21, 2018, 09:55:56 PM
Look.

I agree a bus is a bus, whatever colour it is.

I was just intrigued why we had a red & white all 3 days so far this week.

Its a forum, not an arguing shop!

And if I want to moan about Thandi then I will.

At least I wont have to catch them when I'm back over Great Bridge, as they're coming off the 311!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 23, 2018, 10:03:04 PM
Quote from: Jack on February 23, 2018, 03:21:24 PM
856 - 301

There was a 473* E400 on the 70A earlier, can't remember which one though.

@Jack Enviro 200's get onto the 301 every day as one of the 36 boards does late night 301's and 302's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 23, 2018, 10:33:58 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 23, 2018, 10:03:04 PM
@Jack Enviro 200's get onto the 301 every day as one of the 36 boards does late night 301's and 302's.
Oh ok, never knew, thanks for the confirmation!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 23, 2018, 10:48:58 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 23, 2018, 10:03:04 PM
@Jack Enviro 200's get onto the 301 every day as one of the 36 boards does late night 301's and 302's.

Not at 3:20 though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 23, 2018, 10:52:59 PM
Yes, 856 was unusually on 301-02 all day
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 24, 2018, 08:33:05 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 23, 2018, 10:52:59 PM
Yes, 856 was unusually on 301-02 all day

Whoops. Didn't read the time it was posted. Thanks @Tony.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 26, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
858 makes a right racket at the back. Something must need tightening as it is really loud.
860 displaying rubbish on the 36 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 26, 2018, 05:46:41 PM
Quote from: Jack on February 26, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
858 makes a right racket at the back. Something must need tightening as it is really loud.
860 displaying rubbish on the 36 today.

Dont they have a spare display unit for a E200 to swap with the one in 860, so it can be seriously looked at ?

It isnt a loose wire is it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 26, 2018, 05:55:48 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 26, 2018, 05:46:41 PM
Dont they have a spare display unit for a E200 to swap with the one in 860, so it can be seriously looked at ?

It isnt a loose wire is it?
Looks terrible. It actually hurts my eyes!
2112's rear display was flashing today on the 29!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 28, 2018, 12:45:05 PM
First trip back to Great Bridge today & my friend's sister was driving the 719am 13 from Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 28, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
Its as if Ive never been away.

Bloody 11 & 13!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 28, 2018, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 28, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
Its as if Ive never been away.

Bloody 11 & 13!

If you're talking about any delays, then keep in mind there's roadworks on Leabrook Road which is affecting the two routes pretty badly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on March 12, 2018, 07:30:10 AM
Quote from: John on March 12, 2018, 07:19:21 AM
4596 on the 51 again. Getting less noteworthy now it's known they can be used in City

Apparently it's on 51/01 according to @ChrisMcCarthy. So would have been one of the first buses out of garage. It's nice to see them being used on the Birmingham routes though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 12, 2018, 04:47:43 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 12, 2018, 07:30:10 AM
Apparently it's on 51/01 according to @ChrisMcCarthy. So would have been one of the first buses out of garage. It's nice to see them being used on the Birmingham routes though.
It's nice having Tridents on the 51, even nicer that they are Crimson ones too!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 13, 2018, 07:12:11 AM
What is it about the 659am 13 from Walsall that makes it mostly late?

I actually swopped from that to the 709am 11 instead ages as it couldnt be relied on.

Yet I'm on that 13 now, as it is over 5 mins late.

It only has to come from the garage, so I'd understand if it was already delayed on a journey coming into Walsall!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on March 15, 2018, 06:02:17 PM
There's about a dozen people at the Children's hospital stop in Brum complaining that they've been waiting over half an hour for an X51 to actually stop
Will they ever actually get more buses for it? Dare I say it even take some buses off the Kingstanding routes where they're running only half full?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 15, 2018, 07:19:16 PM
Quote from: Kevin on March 15, 2018, 06:02:17 PM
There's about a dozen people at the Children's hospital stop in Brum complaining that they've been waiting over half an hour for an X51 to actually stop
Will they ever actually get more buses for it? Dare I say it even take some buses off the Kingstanding routes where they're running only half full?

There are more buses for the X51 in the next timetable change very soon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 15, 2018, 07:40:03 PM
Happened to see my particular 13 was running 22 minutes late tonight!

Don't think there was much difference even when there's no roadworks!

There isnt a reasonable alternative if I get a bus to Wednesbury BS, to change.

Dont suppose anyone in the Dudley review considered splitting the service at Wednesbury?

Even running the bus as far as Parkway Tram station from Walsall would do!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on March 16, 2018, 05:51:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 15, 2018, 07:19:16 PM
There are more buses for the X51 in the next timetable change very soon

None to Cannock though i bet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 20, 2018, 12:41:56 PM
According to Walsall North News on Facebook, a Platty has been spotted on the 302 this morning.

Isnt this one that comes off an X51 working?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on March 20, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 20, 2018, 12:41:56 PM
According to Walsall North News on Facebook, a Platty has been spotted on the 302 this morning.

Isnt this one that comes off an X51 working?

It did the morning school service 868 to Cheslyn Hay then one trip on 302 - 08:54 from Lower Farm and 09:24 from Walsall. That was 6722 and it then got put on the 51 later in the morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on March 22, 2018, 04:27:48 PM
Today is the first day that 4733 has been in City since having the crimson treatment. Been in 6's all week. But got swapped with 4596 on 934/23 earlier. The reason apparently being that 4596 "isn't compliant" for city...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 22, 2018, 05:40:04 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 22, 2018, 04:27:48 PM
Today is the first day that 4733 has been in City since having the crimson treatment. Been in 6's all week. But got swapped with 4596 on 934/23 earlier. The reason apparently being that 4596 "isn't compliant" for city...
Someone must be half a sleep, they've been used on the 51 and not being taken off for that stupid excuse which isn't even true.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on March 22, 2018, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 22, 2018, 05:40:04 PM
Someone must be half a sleep, they've been used on the 51 and not being taken off for that stupid excuse which isn't even true.

Have you not thought that 4596 could have developed a fault and needed a change bus?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 22, 2018, 07:21:54 PM
Quote from: John on March 22, 2018, 06:04:36 PM
Have you not thought that 4596 could have developed a fault and needed a change bus?
Not really, I was talking about the daft reason that apparently it isn't compliant for the city that was said in the post before my original one.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on March 22, 2018, 08:55:12 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 22, 2018, 07:21:54 PM
Not really, I was talking about the daft reason that apparently it isn't compliant for the city that was said in the post before my original one.

That's what the driver told me the reason was...But I think she was happy with having 4733 instead.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on March 23, 2018, 02:16:10 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on March 22, 2018, 08:55:12 PM
That's what the driver told me the reason was...But I think she was happy with having 4733 instead.
4594/5/6 were made Euro 6 compliant while at BC IIRC with the 03 & the other 54 plated Tridents. Must not like driving the Tridents then that woman driver @Michael Bevan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 23, 2018, 03:39:54 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on March 23, 2018, 02:16:10 PM
4594/5/6 were made Euro 6 compliant while at BC IIRC with the 03 & the other 54 plated Tridents. Must not like driving the Tridents then that woman driver @Michael Bevan
Or she was just making an excuse up to get 4596 swapped with 4733...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on March 23, 2018, 08:45:24 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 23, 2018, 03:39:54 PM
Or she was just making an excuse up to get 4596 swapped with 4733...

It was apparently the garage who chose to make the swap...She was just following orders...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on March 24, 2018, 11:17:02 AM
Does anyone know what's happened to the 10:28 935 from Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 24, 2018, 02:13:53 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on March 24, 2018, 11:17:02 AM
Does anyone know what's happened to the 10:28 935 from Walsall?

Anything to do with the Brum city protest rallies?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 26, 2018, 08:36:06 PM
High Street in Bloxwich closed, due to accident outside the banks, according to Facebook.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 26, 2018, 08:37:25 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 26, 2018, 08:36:06 PM
High Street in Bloxwich closed, due to accident outside the banks, according to Facebook.

Back open again now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jordan on March 28, 2018, 07:04:26 PM
are you allowed to take photos while the buses are outside the paintshop ready to go to the new garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on March 28, 2018, 07:29:19 PM
Quote from: Jordan on March 28, 2018, 07:04:26 PM
are you allowed to take photos while the buses are outside the paintshop ready to go to the new garage
private property
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on March 29, 2018, 11:18:25 AM
Quote from: karl724223 on March 28, 2018, 07:29:19 PM
private property

If you can get a view of it from somewhere that's public property though, then it's fair game.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 01, 2018, 09:04:44 AM
Any idea when the evening & Sunday service 37 is up for tender?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on April 02, 2018, 12:59:09 PM
For anyone interested there is a new book on Walsall trolleybuses. By Bob Rowe, published by Trolleybooks at £32.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 02, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 01, 2018, 09:04:44 AM
Any idea when the evening & Sunday service 37 is up for tender?

Not yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 02, 2018, 01:20:53 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 02, 2018, 01:03:51 PM
Not yet.

It'll be interesting to see if they win it, bearing in mind, they've got shot of the daytime service!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on April 02, 2018, 05:35:10 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 02, 2018, 01:20:53 PM
It'll be interesting to see if they win it, bearing in mind, they've got shot of the daytime service!
But no competition evenings and Sundays...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 06, 2018, 03:27:19 PM
There is a red/white Trident on the 6 displaying 'SPECIAL'. Has just passed me on Walsall Road in Four Oaks towards Sutton. Is a 435*.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 06, 2018, 06:30:29 PM
Note on the 301 & 302 route in Leamore (also affecting Diamond & Arriva), the Bloxwich Road Green Lane stops have been suspended for roadworks & replaced with temporary bus stops at the Lamp Tavern to Walsall & The Gunners Club to Bloxwich.

@Tony Do you know how long the works are on for?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 06, 2018, 06:49:24 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 06, 2018, 06:30:29 PM
Note on the 301 & 302 route in Leamore (also affecting Diamond & Arriva), the Bloxwich Road Green Lane stops have been suspended for roadworks & replaced with temporary bus stops at the Lamp Tavern to Walsall & The Gunners Club to Bloxwich.

@Tony Do you know how long the works are on for?

Due to run until the 15th
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on April 06, 2018, 06:52:03 PM
Quote from: Jack on April 06, 2018, 03:27:19 PM
There is a red/white Trident on the 6 displaying 'SPECIAL'. Has just passed me on Walsall Road in Four Oaks towards Sutton. Is a 435*.
that display was just for you @Dom
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on April 06, 2018, 07:00:13 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on April 06, 2018, 06:52:03 PM
that display was just for you @Dom

Can you keep your personal lives off the forum....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on April 06, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 06, 2018, 07:00:13 PM
Can you keep your personal lives off the forum....
you havnt wrote in blue pen  do you feel ok 😂

@karl724223 - Yes, all good thanks for asking. I've been busy, so had to leave the idiots to ruin the forum unfortunately......
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 06, 2018, 07:43:22 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on April 06, 2018, 07:19:05 PM
you havnt wrote in blue pen  do you feel ok 😂
Please don't start filling up the Walsall thread of your rubbish, there's enough of it in the Pensnett thread  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on April 08, 2018, 06:19:46 PM
Quote from: Jack on April 06, 2018, 07:43:22 PM
Please don't start filling up the Walsall thread of your rubbish, there's enough of it in the Pensnett thread  :)

And yet....

Quote from: Jack on April 07, 2018, 06:01:41 PM
4296 was blaring its fans today, on the 73, haven't heard a ALX400 blaring its fans for while. Echoed up Common Lane in Sheldon.

Really?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 08, 2018, 08:00:14 PM
Quote from: Kevin on April 08, 2018, 06:19:46 PM
And yet....

Really?
It's bus related, not crap related, don't take it personally.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2018, 12:58:44 PM
Only just realised how crap the Omnilinks are for the elderly. Lowering the platform still doesn't really go anywhere near enough to the ground for the elderly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 10, 2018, 01:56:45 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2018, 12:58:44 PM
Only just realised how crap the Omnilinks are for the elderly. Lowering the platform still doesn't really go anywhere near enough to the ground for the elderly
Really? PB's Omnilinks go down really low, for passengers. The Euro 5's make sound like they are releasing air when lifting back up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2018, 04:33:36 PM
Quote from: Jack on April 10, 2018, 01:56:45 PM
Really? PB's Omnilinks go down really low, for passengers. The Euro 5's make sound like they are releasing air when lifting back up.

Mine was a 4 branded. It needs looking at if it's not meant to be like that. Driver said to the struggling old lady- it's as low as it will go- and it was still stupidly high
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: j789 on April 10, 2018, 05:00:19 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2018, 04:33:36 PM
Mine was a 4 branded. It needs looking at if it's not meant to be like that. Driver said to the struggling old lady- it's as low as it will go- and it was still stupidly high

The problem is not just the bus it is the lack of suitable kerbing at every bus stop (Cassle kerbing???) Some of the Volvo Centros I drive at Worcester garage do not lower as much as would be wished for and at stops without proper kerbing there is still a step up to the bus. However, where kerbing is in place these buses are fine as the kerb is raised so the bus doesn't need to go any lower. Having never driven a Scania in service I can't comment directly on it but I assume it is the same issue with those.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 10, 2018, 07:34:07 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2018, 04:33:36 PM
Mine was a 4 branded. It needs looking at if it's not meant to be like that. Driver said to the struggling old lady- it's as low as it will go- and it was still stupidly high
The 4 branded Omnilinks are the exact same as PB's 28 branded Omnilinks (both BX58) the 28 brandeds go really low. The 4 branded you caught must of been faulty.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 11, 2018, 09:32:27 PM
Re the upcoming changes to the X51, does this mean there will be more red & white / crimson vehicles on the route or are there more Platties coming from somewhere, to service the increased frequency?

Also where is 'King Edwards School' ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on April 11, 2018, 09:45:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 11, 2018, 09:32:27 PM
Re the upcoming changes to the X51, does this mean there will be more red & white / crimson vehicles on the route or are there more Platties coming from somewhere, to service the increased frequency?

Also where is 'King Edwards School' ?

King Edwards School is the high school in Edgbaston.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 11, 2018, 10:49:33 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 11, 2018, 09:32:27 PM
Re the upcoming changes to the X51, does this mean there will be more red & white / crimson vehicles on the route or are there more Platties coming from somewhere, to service the increased frequency?

Also where is 'King Edwards School' ?
Its a Independent School in the Edgbaston area on Edgbaston Park Road by Pritchatts Road and next door to the University of Birmingham.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/King+Edward's+School/@52.4516126,-1.928598,17z/data=!4m8!1m2!2m1!1sking+edwards+school!3m4!1s0x0:0xa8577b285d9a6707!8m2!3d52.4508442!4d-1.9236803
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 13, 2018, 03:41:37 PM
At least diamond don't think f*** the Hayley green lot when there running late. Some have been waiting in Halesowen for absolutely ages now. 2 diamonds came together heading towards Hayley green both very late but still.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on April 13, 2018, 11:13:41 PM
Quote from: Mike K on April 11, 2018, 09:45:38 PM
King Edwards School is the high school in Edgbaston.
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An X51 journey will run to King Edward school one AM/PM journey to replace school serrvice 886 which is being withdrawn 22 April
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on April 13, 2018, 11:20:10 PM
Are there many students that go from Walsall and Great Barr to King Edwards then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Straightlines on April 13, 2018, 11:43:08 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on April 13, 2018, 11:20:10 PM
Are there many students that go from Walsall and Great Barr to King Edwards then?

No, hence why the dedicated provision is being merged into the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on April 14, 2018, 12:23:09 AM
Quote from: Straightlines on April 13, 2018, 11:43:08 PM
No, hence why the dedicated provision is being merged into the X51

Well this is why I'm asking. Why is the X51 going there at all? There can't be that much of a demand.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on April 14, 2018, 12:50:35 AM
Quote from: MasterPlan on April 14, 2018, 12:23:09 AM
Well this is why I'm asking. Why is the X51 going there at all? There can't be that much of a demand.

The King Edwards schools in general, and the High School in particular, pull in pupils from across the West Midlands, such is the demand for places. Whenever I see the 886 (it is currently run by Perry Barr) loadings have looked reasonable enough. I guess it's no different to the many Green Bus services that run from all over Birmingham and the West Midlands to King Edwards VI Camp Hill, Five Ways, Aston and Handsworth schools.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 14, 2018, 09:17:30 AM
Quote from: MasterPlan on April 14, 2018, 12:23:09 AM
Well this is why I'm asking. Why is the X51 going there at all? There can't be that much of a demand.

And it will also provide a link for workers from that side of city to Five Ways
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 14, 2018, 09:36:20 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 14, 2018, 09:17:30 AM
And it will also provide a link for workers from that side of city to Five Ways

If it was going to be that useful then why isn't there more journeys operating it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 14, 2018, 09:37:08 AM
Quote from: Mike K on April 14, 2018, 12:50:35 AM
The King Edwards schools in general, and the High School in particular, pull in pupils from across the West Midlands, such is the demand for places. Whenever I see the 886 (it is currently run by Perry Barr) loadings have looked reasonable enough. I guess it's no different to the many Green Bus services that run from all over Birmingham and the West Midlands to King Edwards VI Camp Hill, Five Ways, Aston and Handsworth schools.
The PM 886 is currently operated by Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Straightlines on April 14, 2018, 09:42:52 AM
NX have been trying to withdraw the 886 for nearly two years.

It's current loadings are unviable to justify a dedicated provision, hopefully the X51 merger will relieve capacity issues on the Walsall - Birmingham corridor and sustain the service for the cluster of kids within the Great Barr and Walsall area.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 14, 2018, 10:14:24 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 14, 2018, 09:36:20 AM
If it was going to be that useful then why isn't there more journeys operating it?

Back in the early days of the 951, all journeys went to Bearwood via Five Ways, but didn't that get withdrawn due to congestion/reliability issues?

As long as it doesn't mess up the rest of the X51, it's fine by me. (But then again, it's not often I need Brum anyway!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on April 14, 2018, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Westy on April 14, 2018, 10:14:24 AM
Back in the early days of the 951, all journeys went to Bearwood via Five Ways, but didn't that get withdrawn due to congestion/reliability issues?

As long as it doesn't mess up the rest of the X51, it's fine by me. (But then again, it's not often I need Brum anyway!)

I shouldn't worry - it's only a single journey each school day that extends to / from the school
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on April 14, 2018, 12:02:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 14, 2018, 09:17:30 AM
And it will also provide a link for workers from that side of city to Five Ways

Not gonna lie I assumed the 886 ran down the Bristol Road not via 5 Ways
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 14, 2018, 12:06:12 PM
Quote from: Kevin on April 14, 2018, 12:02:04 PM
Not gonna lie I assumed the 886 ran down the Bristol Road not via 5 Ways
The 886 used the Bristol Road.
Traveline WM shows the X51 will also use the Bristol Road.
It'd probably be more useful if it actually went to Five Ways.
Though I suppose if you were to change onto the 8 its only a minute or 2 to Five Ways from the Bristol Road, or about a 15 minute walk.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 15, 2018, 12:56:54 AM
When was the last time Walsall to Pelsall journeys terminated at Shortlands Lane?

Remember early to mid 80's, 346E journeys terminating there!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: V89MOA on April 16, 2018, 09:45:38 AM
Recent transfer 4609 is on 934/7 if anyone needs it, 9:10 ish 937 off Brum.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on April 16, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
What a nice story I just read on goggle about one of your drivers saving a little girls life. Beaver they are calling him.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 16, 2018, 09:27:24 PM
Quote from: V89MOA on April 16, 2018, 09:45:38 AM
Recent transfer 4609 is on 934/7 if anyone needs it, 9:10 ish 937 off Brum.

4606 ended up coming out again as a change bus on the 51 again. Also 4607 was out on the 10 earlier. I believe it was it's first time out since transferring to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: V89MOA on April 16, 2018, 09:42:11 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 16, 2018, 09:27:24 PM
4606 ended up coming out again as a change bus on the 51 again. Also 4607 was out on the 10 earlier. I believe it was it's first time out since transferring to Walsall.
I saw 4606 in the end in Walsall but not 07, typical... 4608 was still clinging on at BC today, on the 29.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on April 18, 2018, 09:21:58 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 18, 2018, 09:16:00 PM
4309 | WA37/41
4607 | WA37/41

The deckers on evening 37 & 41 will be normal from now on. I was informed by a Walsall inspector that there was an email sent other night regarding the deckers on 37 & 41. The vehicle type ALX400/DD is allocated on the boards that have evening 37 & 41; which are 41/01, 41/03, and 41/05.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on April 18, 2018, 10:14:33 PM
4349 Was the other one this evening
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 19, 2018, 01:39:00 PM
1772 finally back at Walsall repaired from its electrical fire nearly two years ago, now Walsall just have to replace all the body panels robbed while it was waiting repairs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 19, 2018, 03:11:45 PM
4606 is on the 51 too as well as 4608
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 19, 2018, 07:54:25 PM
4733 (Crimson) on the 2nd Cannock X51 this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 19, 2018, 09:15:17 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 19, 2018, 07:54:25 PM
4733 (Crimson) on the 2nd Cannock X51 this morning.
First Crimson E400 on the X51? Unless 4866 has done it before.
(Hopefully we won't start to get constant posts of Crimson E400's on the Cannock X51's)...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on April 19, 2018, 09:23:39 PM
Quote from: Jack on April 19, 2018, 09:15:17 PM
First Crimson E400 on the X51? Unless 4866 has done it before.
(Hopefully we won't start to get constant posts of Crimson E400's on the Cannock X51's)...

It will be a rarity whilst there are so few crimson e400s on a bus service that happens a few times in the morning and return runs in the evening . So people would like to see/ride them. Not like the daily occurrence @Jack "cough" e200 on the 52/A everyday report "cough"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 19, 2018, 09:28:19 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on April 19, 2018, 09:23:39 PM
It will be a rarity whilst there are so few crimson e400s on a bus service that happens a few times in the morning and return runs in the evening . So people would like to see/ride them. Not like the daily occurrence @Jack "cough" e200 on the 52/A everyday report "cough"
E200's aren't daily on the 52/A at all. (Be good if you stick to your local routes than mine). You might get the occasional one on a Saturday and that's it. It isn't a rarity to get E400's (whether they are Crimson or Red/White) on the X51, it will probably be daily soon anyway!

I haven't posted an E200 on the 52/A in a while, and by far means is no longer everyday thing since 731 went back to Dundee.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on April 19, 2018, 09:34:57 PM
I will as I mainly catch the one bus to and from work :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 19, 2018, 09:36:44 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on April 19, 2018, 09:34:57 PM
I will as I mainly catch the one bus to and from work :)
Good for you  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on April 19, 2018, 09:39:02 PM
With the increase of peak time frequency to Every 7 mins peak times the X51 is becoming more popular does this warrant a few more platinums?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 19, 2018, 09:40:46 PM
Quote from: Jack on April 19, 2018, 09:15:17 PM
First Crimson E400 on the X51? Unless 4866 has done it before.
(Hopefully we won't start to get constant posts of Crimson E400's on the Cannock X51's)...

4866 and 4733 have both been on the X51 a couple of times since repaint.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 20, 2018, 05:25:18 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on April 19, 2018, 09:40:46 PM
4866 and 4733 have both been on the X51 a couple of times since repaint.

Even on the Cannock runs?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 20, 2018, 09:08:29 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 20, 2018, 05:25:18 PM
Even on the Cannock runs?

I've seen 4866 on the Cannock X51 before.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: V89MOA on April 23, 2018, 02:41:03 PM
4595 is on the X51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 23, 2018, 03:21:48 PM
At 15:09 a generic branded Platinum was on Beeches Road by Hassop Road heading towards Aldridge Road.
Anyone what is was doing?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 23, 2018, 03:22:54 PM
Quote from: Jack on April 23, 2018, 03:21:48 PM
At 15:09 a generic branded Platinum was on Beeches Road by Hassop Road heading towards Aldridge Road.
Anyone what is was doing?

Probably running dead to Great Barr School for the 997 school journey they now run
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on April 23, 2018, 07:11:17 PM
A Walsall depot ALX 400 has been standing in Featherstone for the past 4 hours. I presume it has broken down
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: V89MOA on May 02, 2018, 11:22:11 AM
Repainted 4867 is on the 51 if anyone wants it, currently Walsall bound at Perry Barr.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 02, 2018, 06:33:13 PM
Driver & ' Buddy Driver' on my 11 into Walsall earlier.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 03, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
How long has the 6 been displaying Four Oaks as a via point?

Has Tony or an other been playing with the 'master' list of destinations on the computer again?

If so, any chance of 'Walsall via Bloxwich & Leamore' & 'Mossley/Lower Farm via Leamore & Bloxwich' as well, as the 29 shows via Coalpool & Harden Road thesedays?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 03, 2018, 09:55:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 03, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
How long has the 6 been displaying Four Oaks as a via point?

Has Tony or an other been playing with the 'master' list of destinations on the computer again?

If so, any chance of 'Walsall via Bloxwich & Leamore' & 'Mossley/Lower Farm via Leamore & Bloxwich' as well, as the 29 shows via Coalpool & Harden Road thesedays?
2014, 4 years ago -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/adams_buspics/15283125589/in/photolist-UhEssL-awDm5c-nPPeUP-phw1Mk-ckJ5xo-dujJkt-e2Vjjm-ny1CKJ-9HWGRD-VjEa3o-FshCL9-ZFK7cD-YV992q-YV9fv7-BTfBFo-RfrKL2-Uk5si8-a8KHNa-nbHvuG-TA1y93-msHmyS-qquNzy-MvAL6o-MMARsS-Pdm7Tw-LEASx1-JnUpGH-Xijcz6-Xi65GV-Wdehp4-WUnajq-AKSrtT-LE6DeH-cKsvyJ-6WtGMd-VCiy7G-W1Z2Mx-6cNzjH-92Tmbf-7EEbvj-Wfu6w4-DiTt7F-Wa4ZQo-XraDTd-XvbALK-RpHCV7-WU9Fiu-WeCrVj-XvcsyF-Xvbt76/

2017, last year - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mattenigma/34319119144/in/photolist-UhEssL-awDm5c-nPPeUP-phw1Mk-ckJ5xo-dujJkt-e2Vjjm-ny1CKJ-9HWGRD-VjEa3o-FshCL9-ZFK7cD-YV992q-YV9fv7-BTfBFo-RfrKL2-Uk5si8-a8KHNa-nbHvuG-TA1y93-msHmyS-qquNzy-MvAL6o-MMARsS-Pdm7Tw-LEASx1-JnUpGH-Xijcz6-Xi65GV-Wdehp4-WUnajq-AKSrtT-LE6DeH-cKsvyJ-6WtGMd-VCiy7G-W1Z2Mx-6cNzjH-92Tmbf-7EEbvj-Wfu6w4-DiTt7F-Wa4ZQo-XraDTd-XvbALK-RpHCV7-WU9Fiu-WeCrVj-XvcsyF-Xvbt76/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127316282@N03/32324937581/in/photolist-UhEssL-awDm5c-nPPeUP-phw1Mk-ckJ5xo-dujJkt-e2Vjjm-ny1CKJ-9HWGRD-VjEa3o-FshCL9-ZFK7cD-YV992q-YV9fv7-BTfBFo-RfrKL2-Uk5si8-a8KHNa-nbHvuG-TA1y93-msHmyS-qquNzy-MvAL6o-MMARsS-Pdm7Tw-LEASx1-JnUpGH-Xijcz6-Xi65GV-Wdehp4-WUnajq-AKSrtT-LE6DeH-cKsvyJ-6WtGMd-VCiy7G-W1Z2Mx-6cNzjH-92Tmbf-7EEbvj-Wfu6w4-DiTt7F-Wa4ZQo-XraDTd-XvbALK-RpHCV7-WU9Fiu-WeCrVj-XvcsyF-Xvbt76/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 03, 2018, 10:04:49 PM
Quote from: 2206 on May 03, 2018, 09:55:38 PM
2014, 4 years ago -
https://www.flickr.com/photos/adams_buspics/15283125589/in/photolist-UhEssL-awDm5c-nPPeUP-phw1Mk-ckJ5xo-dujJkt-e2Vjjm-ny1CKJ-9HWGRD-VjEa3o-FshCL9-ZFK7cD-YV992q-YV9fv7-BTfBFo-RfrKL2-Uk5si8-a8KHNa-nbHvuG-TA1y93-msHmyS-qquNzy-MvAL6o-MMARsS-Pdm7Tw-LEASx1-JnUpGH-Xijcz6-Xi65GV-Wdehp4-WUnajq-AKSrtT-LE6DeH-cKsvyJ-6WtGMd-VCiy7G-W1Z2Mx-6cNzjH-92Tmbf-7EEbvj-Wfu6w4-DiTt7F-Wa4ZQo-XraDTd-XvbALK-RpHCV7-WU9Fiu-WeCrVj-XvcsyF-Xvbt76/

2017, last year - https://www.flickr.com/photos/mattenigma/34319119144/in/photolist-UhEssL-awDm5c-nPPeUP-phw1Mk-ckJ5xo-dujJkt-e2Vjjm-ny1CKJ-9HWGRD-VjEa3o-FshCL9-ZFK7cD-YV992q-YV9fv7-BTfBFo-RfrKL2-Uk5si8-a8KHNa-nbHvuG-TA1y93-msHmyS-qquNzy-MvAL6o-MMARsS-Pdm7Tw-LEASx1-JnUpGH-Xijcz6-Xi65GV-Wdehp4-WUnajq-AKSrtT-LE6DeH-cKsvyJ-6WtGMd-VCiy7G-W1Z2Mx-6cNzjH-92Tmbf-7EEbvj-Wfu6w4-DiTt7F-Wa4ZQo-XraDTd-XvbALK-RpHCV7-WU9Fiu-WeCrVj-XvcsyF-Xvbt76/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/127316282@N03/32324937581/in/photolist-UhEssL-awDm5c-nPPeUP-phw1Mk-ckJ5xo-dujJkt-e2Vjjm-ny1CKJ-9HWGRD-VjEa3o-FshCL9-ZFK7cD-YV992q-YV9fv7-BTfBFo-RfrKL2-Uk5si8-a8KHNa-nbHvuG-TA1y93-msHmyS-qquNzy-MvAL6o-MMARsS-Pdm7Tw-LEASx1-JnUpGH-Xijcz6-Xi65GV-Wdehp4-WUnajq-AKSrtT-LE6DeH-cKsvyJ-6WtGMd-VCiy7G-W1Z2Mx-6cNzjH-92Tmbf-7EEbvj-Wfu6w4-DiTt7F-Wa4ZQo-XraDTd-XvbALK-RpHCV7-WU9Fiu-WeCrVj-XvcsyF-Xvbt76/
There's a photo of 4133 on the 6 displaying via Four Oaks from the 7th December 2013. On the main site.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on May 03, 2018, 10:15:02 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 03, 2018, 09:40:37 PM
How long has the 6 been displaying Four Oaks as a via point?

Long time. Flipdot and LED has Four Oaks on the via points. Here is a fairly recent picture of 4353 displaying via Four Oaks in June 2017: https://flic.kr/p/WxL6st

4302 displaying via Four Oaks in August 2016: https://flic.kr/p/KmywVo
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 04, 2018, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: CL on May 04, 2018, 04:20:49 PM
6857 on the 63
4856 on the 934 (I understand it's transferred)

@CL E40D's are not noteworthy on Walsall Platinum routes. 4856 transferred a week or two ago.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 04, 2018, 06:20:42 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 04, 2018, 05:58:43 PM
@CL E40D's are not noteworthy on Walsall Platinum routes. 4856 transferred a week or two ago.
Neither are the Trident E400's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 04, 2018, 06:26:16 PM
Quote from: Jack on May 04, 2018, 06:20:42 PM
Neither are the Trident E400's.

Neither are any of the compliant Transbus Tridents now @Jack if you want to list everything that isn't "Noteworthy".
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on May 04, 2018, 06:28:51 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 04, 2018, 05:58:43 PM
@CL E40D's are not noteworthy on Walsall Platinum routes. 4856 transferred a week or two ago.
Duly noted. There's loads on there today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 05, 2018, 03:52:23 PM
Freshly repainted 4736 and 4867 are on the 51 if anyone wants them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 12, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
4594 - 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on May 13, 2018, 07:42:18 AM
Quote from: Jack on May 12, 2018, 03:23:14 PM
4594 - 51
This was posted an hour and a half before you spotted it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on May 13, 2018, 07:42:54 AM
Quote from: Jack on May 05, 2018, 03:52:23 PM
Freshly repainted 4736 and 4867 are on the 51 if anyone wants them.
4867 is a regular on the 51 and will continue to be.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 13, 2018, 11:02:36 AM
Quote from: WMT3000 on May 13, 2018, 07:42:54 AM
4867 is a regular on the 51 and will continue to be.
If you read my post it said that if anyone wants freshly repainted 4736 and 4867 then they were both on the 51. I said that (just in case) anybody was looking for them to get a photograph  as they had been released from the paint shop that week.
I don't really need your input on what is regular/not regular on the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 13, 2018, 01:16:05 PM
Quote from: Jack on May 13, 2018, 11:02:36 AM
If you read my post it said that if anyone wants freshly repainted 4736 and 4867 then they were both on the 51. I said that (just in case) anybody was looking for them to get a photograph  as they had been released from the paint shop that week.
I don't really need your input on what is regular/not regular on the 51.

If people wanted it they would put it in bus to find thread. Stop blocking up threads
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 15, 2018, 05:25:04 PM
Theres a thing.

As they are normally on different routes to what I use, 2 Eclipse 2's on the way home tonight.

2113 on the 13 & 2117 on the 301!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 23, 2018, 07:15:36 AM
1769 taken out of service due to a problem with the doors, so no 709 11 from Walsall so far.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 31, 2018, 01:59:00 PM
As a bit of a surprise, 4601 will come out of paint next week in Walsall heritage livery. The same livery as Metrobus 2888 was painted, but with the yellow stripes slightly different to match the lines of an ALX400
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on May 31, 2018, 03:00:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 31, 2018, 01:59:00 PM
As a bit of a surprise, 4601 will come out of paint next week in Walsall heritage livery. The same livery as Metrobus 2888 was painted, but with the yellow stripes slightly different to match the lines of an ALX400
any date for when 4601 will out on the road  please
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on May 31, 2018, 04:50:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 31, 2018, 01:59:00 PM
As a bit of a surprise, 4601 will come out of paint next week in Walsall heritage livery. The same livery as Metrobus 2888 was painted, but with the yellow stripes slightly different to match the lines of an ALX400

That should look very good on a Trident. How long is it intended to be in the livery?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on May 31, 2018, 05:36:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 31, 2018, 01:59:00 PM
As a bit of a surprise, 4601 will come out of paint next week in Walsall heritage livery. The same livery as Metrobus 2888 was painted, but with the yellow stripes slightly different to match the lines of an ALX400
Sounds good.   Any plans for buses in the other municipal liveries?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 31, 2018, 05:48:28 PM
The intention is it will stay in blue for the rest of it's life. Other heritage liveries will depend on the reaction to this one
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on May 31, 2018, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 31, 2018, 05:48:28 PM
The intention is it will stay in blue for the rest of it's life. Other heritage liveries will depend on the reaction to this one
The Metrobuses & the BC Scania all looked great in the BCT/WCT/CT/WB & WA liveries. Would be nice to see a few of the new breed of buses in the various municipality liveries pre/early WMPTE days
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 31, 2018, 09:04:18 PM
How long is the vehicle's projected life?

(Must admit, I did wonder why a later vehicle was used, because surely if it was only say for a couple of years, then it would be crimsoned after that, but if the livery was only on for a limited time, why not use an older vehicle, then withdraw it in that livery instead?)

Aint they doing this for 50 years of Wmpte then?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 31, 2018, 09:11:44 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on May 31, 2018, 03:00:53 PM
any date for when 4601 will out on the road  please
Just wait until Tony says!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 01, 2018, 06:36:19 PM
The day got off great this morning, with my work friend's sister back on the 11/13.

I might be slightly biased, but a 'happy' driver does really make a difference to the journey, with the right amount of rebuke to certain passengers trying to pull a fast one!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on June 01, 2018, 09:39:36 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 01, 2018, 06:36:19 PM
The day got off great this morning, with my work friend's sister back on the 11/13.

I might be slightly biased, but a 'happy' driver does really make a difference to the journey, with the right amount of rebuke to certain passengers trying to pull a fast one!

The 11/13 always seems to have nice, happy drivers. I've never had a bad experience on that route in the past 5 years of living right next to it, and before that catching it occasionally into Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 01, 2018, 09:46:06 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 01, 2018, 06:36:19 PM
The day got off great this morning, with my work friend's sister back on the 11/13.

I might be slightly biased, but a 'happy' driver does really make a difference to the journey, with the right amount of rebuke to certain passengers trying to pull a fast one!

Some women drivers on the 4H are nice too, potentially the same one maybe
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 01, 2018, 10:28:10 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on June 01, 2018, 09:39:36 PM
The 11/13 always seems to have nice, happy drivers. I've never had a bad experience on that route in the past 5 years of living right next to it, and before that catching it occasionally into Walsall.

Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 01, 2018, 09:46:06 PM
Some women drivers on the 4H are nice too, potentially the same one maybe
Shame the drivers on the 51 aren't the same.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on June 02, 2018, 05:10:44 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 01, 2018, 09:46:06 PM
Some women drivers on the 4H are nice too, potentially the same one maybe

Some of the drivers seem to do both sets of routes, as I've recognised some of my usual drivers when catching the 4H from near Quarry Bank a few times.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 02, 2018, 06:56:46 AM
Quote from: StourValley98 on June 02, 2018, 05:10:44 AM
Some of the drivers seem to do both sets of routes, as I've recognised some of my usual drivers when catching the 4H from near Quarry Bank a few times.

Thats because its on the same rota...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 02, 2018, 07:23:13 AM
Yes, she does both 11/13's & the 4's, plus she's involved in training, she told me, as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2018, 05:14:56 PM
@MasterPlan it isn't noteworthy to have Crimson Tridents on the WA routes that serve the city.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on June 05, 2018, 05:51:40 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 05, 2018, 05:14:56 PM
@MasterPlan it isn't noteworthy to have Crimson Tridents on the WA routes that serve the city.

I would've thought it would be on the X51 as it's a platinum route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 05, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
4601 in Walsall blue

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on June 05, 2018, 07:06:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
4601 in Walsall blue

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html
Looking great in the Walsall Heritage livery, lets hope the other heritage liveries will be rolled out sometime later this year
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2018, 07:19:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
4601 in Walsall blue

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html
Love it! Has it been refurbed too?

Quote from: MasterPlan on June 05, 2018, 05:51:40 PM
I would've thought it would be on the X51 as it's a platinum route.
As are the 9** routes, but it's usual to see them on any of them if there's an MMC down, just as common as an E400.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 05, 2018, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 05, 2018, 07:19:26 PM
Love it! Has it been refurbed too?


Been retrimmed in Crimson red dot moquette
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 05, 2018, 07:26:27 PM
How come we never get a single deck version of these heritage liveries?

Wouldnt minded seeing it on the Bradford Place routes!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 05, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 05, 2018, 07:26:27 PM
How come we never get a single deck version of these heritage liveries?

Wouldnt minded seeing it on the Bradford Place routes!

Strange you ask that as I have just suggested a single deck for the next one
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 05, 2018, 08:01:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
Strange you ask that as I have just suggested a single deck for the next one
Urban 2?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 05, 2018, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on June 05, 2018, 05:51:40 PM
I would've thought it would be on the X51 as it's a platinum route.

I saw 4607 on the first afternoon Cannock X51 earlier (17:05 off Birmingham). That journey has been a Trident quite often recently. As @Jack has said, the crimson Trident's are used the same as E400's on Platinum routes. So they aren't "Noteworthy".
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 05, 2018, 10:19:08 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
Strange you ask that as I have just suggested a single deck for the next one
What livery will that be, Tony?   West Brom would be nice...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on June 05, 2018, 11:14:14 PM
@Tony did 4601 gain 4391's DPF filter so it can be compliant for bham?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 07, 2018, 05:05:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
Strange you ask that as I have just suggested a single deck for the next one
Are there any plans to name 4601?  With the 70th aniversary of the NHS coming soon, can I again suggest 'Sister Dora'?  Could be some good publiclty around this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on June 07, 2018, 05:09:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2018, 06:56:06 PM
4601 in Walsall blue

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html

That looks the business. 👍
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 08, 2018, 03:23:01 PM
@Ian Hardy, E400 MMC's are a usual sight on the 6 (7/A too) on Saturdays.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on June 10, 2018, 05:55:22 PM
From the 22nd of july NXWM are going to be extending the route number 10 to Lichfield
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 10, 2018, 06:06:27 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on June 10, 2018, 05:55:22 PM
From the 22nd of july NXWM are going to be extending the route number 10 to Lichfield

Where have you seen this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mark114 on June 10, 2018, 06:08:39 PM
That is very interesting i hope whoever runs this service more then likely nx I hope they have thought about the ticket system as Lichfield is outside of the West Midlands
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on June 10, 2018, 06:12:15 PM
NXWM will be operating it. Also to answer your question Dom i seen an article on the subject
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 10, 2018, 06:14:09 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on June 10, 2018, 06:12:15 PM
NXWM will be operating it. Also to answer your question Dom i seen an article on the subject

Can you link the article, please? I know a lot of us would rather see proof than go off someone simply saying it.

@Dom
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5133.0
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 10, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
Quote from: Dom on June 10, 2018, 06:06:27 PM
Where have you seen this?

For some reason there's two threads on this. In the other one there's a link to someone's blog, and a copy of the timetable. Says that it's commercial, so maybe that's why you've not heard about it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 10, 2018, 06:15:08 PM

For some reason there's two threads on this. In the other one there's a link to someone's blog, and a copy of the timetable. Says that it's commercial, so maybe that's why you've not heard about it?


Edit: @Dom https://brownhillsbob.com/2018/06/10/a-great-new-bus-service-to-lichfield-starts-this-summer/

There's a copy of the timetable if you scroll down that page
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mark114 on June 10, 2018, 06:16:39 PM
Thank you busman Greg for you post my apologies i did not read it correct on whom was operating it again my apologies
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 10, 2018, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: MW on June 10, 2018, 06:14:29 PM
For some reason there's two threads on this. In the other one there's a link to someone's blog, and a copy of the timetable. Says that it's commercial, so maybe that's why you've not heard about it?

Just seen the thread, with that many pinned threads I can't even see any of the unpinned threads.

@Tony @Winston Why is May's noteworthy thread still pinned? We're nearly half way through June!

@Dom - I am sorry! I've been away on holiday in to early June / come back to load of work, clearly I haven't got my priorities correct! Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on June 10, 2018, 06:17:48 PM
That is alright Mark114
Here is the article
https://brownhillsbob.com/2018/06/10/a-great-new-bus-service-to-lichfield-starts-this-summer/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mark114 on June 10, 2018, 06:20:38 PM
Thank you again busman Greg into for the article and info which is greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 10, 2018, 06:25:56 PM
Quote from: Dom on June 10, 2018, 06:16:43 PM
Just seen the thread, with that many pinned threads I can't even see any of the unpinned threads.

@Tony @Winston Why is May's noteworthy thread still pinned? We're nearly half way through June!

http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?action=unread

@Dom follow that link. I usually use that. It brings up all the posts you haven't read. I have it bookmarked.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 11, 2018, 09:43:15 PM
Quote from: Dom on June 10, 2018, 06:16:43 PM
Just seen the thread, with that many pinned threads I can't even see any of the unpinned threads.

@Tony @Winston Why is May's noteworthy thread still pinned? We're nearly half way through June!

@Dom - I am sorry! I've been away on holiday in to early June / come back to load of work, clearly I haven't got my priorities correct! Winston

Not having a pop. Just saying.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 12, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
Personally would love to know why a bus has 13 mins layover not at the terminus. Must be incredibly frustrating for those who have to wait on the bus for 13 mins+. I get to Hedge against demand but really it's a bit excessive?? Shame the 4H can't run on time during the day!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 13, 2018, 08:03:18 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 05, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
Strange you ask that as I have just suggested a single deck for the next one

Any more news on 4601, Tony?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 13, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on June 13, 2018, 08:03:18 AM
Any more news on 4601, Tony?

Waiting for the number transfers and Walsall Corporation fleetnames to come from the printers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 13, 2018, 08:26:11 AM
A photo on a Facebook group has shown National Express Levante FJ60 KVS. It currently has fleet number NX16 on, but I believe it is ex SR116. FJ60 KVS is apparently covering for 135 for a short while whilst 135 is rebuilt. I was told it had an incident the other week that caused quite a bit of damage to the coach.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 13, 2018, 08:33:32 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 13, 2018, 08:26:11 AM
A photo on a Facebook group has shown National Express Levante FJ60 KVS. It currently has fleet number NX16 on, but I believe it is ex SR116. FJ60 KVS is apparently covering for 135 for a short while whilst 135 is rebuilt. I was told it had an incident the other week that caused quite a bit of damage to the coach.

116 had been on loan to Whippets earlier in the year. The NX16 is their fleetnumber and nothing to do with National Express
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 13, 2018, 08:37:19 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2018, 08:33:32 AM
116 had been on loan to Whippets earlier in the year. The NX16 is their fleetnumber and nothing to do with National Express

Oh I see. That makes sense now. Cheers @Tony.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on June 13, 2018, 08:47:52 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
Waiting for the number transfers and Walsall Corporation fleetnames to come from the printers

Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 20, 2018, 03:09:26 PM
1881 has been branded for the 34/39 in purple
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 20, 2018, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: John on June 20, 2018, 03:09:26 PM
1881 has been branded for the 34/39 in purple

And already out in service. Branding looks nice aswell.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 27, 2018, 07:57:28 AM
Quote from: CL on June 26, 2018, 09:29:58 PM
Saw a photo, earlier this evening, of an Omnilink doing an X51 to Cannock. Not sure if it's the exact one you're referring to but...

looks as if it's 1888.

It is the same one @CL. The 17:05 X51 to Cannock does the 868 school beforehand, then the 16:17 X51 into Birmingham. I was going to try and get a photo of it in Walsall, but it went completely to pot on the X51 yesterday and for some reason it wasn't tracking on the app. So I ended up missing it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 29, 2018, 04:41:25 PM
1838 is stuck in Wednesbury Bus Station overheating!

Driver is going to give it 10 minutes!

Now he's giving it another go!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 29, 2018, 06:02:21 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 29, 2018, 04:41:25 PM
1838 is stuck in Wednesbury Bus Station overheating!

Driver is going to give it 10 minutes!

Now he's giving it another go!

The omnilinks are so loud in this weather!!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 29, 2018, 06:05:05 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 29, 2018, 06:02:21 PM
The omnilinks are so loud in this weather!!!
Maybe because they have constant fans!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on June 29, 2018, 08:35:08 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 29, 2018, 06:02:21 PM
The omnilinks are so loud in this weather!!!

The (Crimson at least) AG Geminis seem to be behaving themselves. What are the Platinum MMCs like in this weather?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 29, 2018, 08:53:15 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 29, 2018, 08:35:08 PM
The (Crimson at least) AG Geminis seem to be behaving themselves.
They have e-Fan crap fitted that's why. Take it you don't like blaring cooling fans?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on June 29, 2018, 08:53:36 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 29, 2018, 08:35:08 PM
The (Crimson at least) AG Geminis seem to be behaving themselves. What are the Platinum MMCs like in this weather?

Take a look at the 11 lol. Blaring cooling fans as they used to on all of them! I've seen and heard a couple AG ALX400s with loud cooling fans around too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on June 29, 2018, 09:26:29 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 29, 2018, 08:53:15 PM
They have e-Fan crap fitted that's why. Take it you don't like blaring cooling fans?

They do, don't they? Forgot about that.

Quote from: MW on June 29, 2018, 08:53:36 PM
Take a look at the 11 lol. Blaring cooling fans as they used to on all of them! I've seen and heard a couple AG ALX400s with loud cooling fans around too.

Yup, when there's an 11 round the corner in this weather, you know about it. If I'm driving past a branded Gemini with the windows down, I've learnt to cover my ear.

4518 was surprisingly quiet when I saw it last week, a shadow of its former self
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 29, 2018, 09:32:29 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 29, 2018, 09:26:29 PM
They do, don't they? Forgot about that.
Correct, all Crimson Gemini's have them, sadly  :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin_Brum12 on July 04, 2018, 02:12:03 PM
Has been a pretty tough day on the Walsall Road routes owing to various car accidents, there was an incident at Scott Arms and another on the he canal bridge going out of city after Lancaster Circus. Still managed to beat one of our bosses to work though. Am on 6725 coming out of Brum now and thankfully it looks like things ate getting back to normal.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on July 04, 2018, 02:14:56 PM
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on July 04, 2018, 02:12:03 PM
Has been a pretty tough day on the Walsall Road routes owing to various car accidents, there was an incident at Scott Arms and another on the he canal bridge going out of city after Lancaster Circus. Still managed to beat one of our bosses to work though. Am on 6725 coming out of Brum now and thankfully it looks like things ate getting back to normal.

Issue and diversion is city bound only. Walsall bound is NLR.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 05, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
The finished 4601
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 05, 2018, 06:59:28 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 05, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
The finished 4601
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html

Any chance of it appearing at Aston Manor on Sunday?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on July 05, 2018, 07:02:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 05, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
The finished 4601
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html
Looking great now fully complete, looked great at the AG open in the Walsall Heritage minus the decals etc.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 05, 2018, 07:13:22 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 05, 2018, 06:59:28 PM
Any chance of it appearing at Aston Manor on Sunday?

It all the faults have been fixed. Not sure yet. 2957 & 3225 should be attending
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on July 05, 2018, 07:34:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 05, 2018, 06:56:49 PM
The finished 4601
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html

Wow. Utterly fantastic.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 05, 2018, 07:59:20 PM
Quote from: markcf83 on July 05, 2018, 07:34:29 PM
Wow. Utterly fantastic.
Wonderful! Shame it didn't have 4391's trap, means it can't be used on the 51 :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 05, 2018, 08:02:17 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 05, 2018, 07:59:20 PM
Wonderful! Shame it didn't have 4391's trap, means it can't be used on the 51 :(

That was the whole point. So that it stays on local Walsall routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 05, 2018, 08:03:20 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 05, 2018, 07:59:20 PM
Wonderful! Shame it didn't have 4391's trap, means it can't be used on the 51 :(
If it would have had a trap it would have been painted crimson. One of the reasons it got authorised was because it didn't have one
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 05, 2018, 10:18:49 PM
Quote from: John on July 05, 2018, 08:02:17 PM
That was the whole point. So that it stays on local Walsall routes

But not the ones running from Bradford Place!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 06, 2018, 04:25:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 05, 2018, 10:18:49 PM
But not the ones running from Bradford Place!

Well there's a chance it may get on late night 37's, as that does get deckers (apart from on a Sunday).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 06, 2018, 08:04:55 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 06, 2018, 04:25:40 PM
Well there's a chance it may get on late night 37's, as that does get deckers (apart from on a Sunday).

Well thats interesting.

I thought DD's were 'discouraged' from Bradford Place?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 06, 2018, 08:23:55 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 06, 2018, 08:04:55 PM
Well thats interesting.

I thought DD's were 'discouraged' from Bradford Place?

The 45 sometimes gets them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 06, 2018, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on July 06, 2018, 08:23:55 PM
The 45 sometimes gets them
The 45 is not a WA operated route, so doesn't use the Bridgeman Street bridge to return to garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on July 06, 2018, 09:04:05 PM
The 45 gets 2/3 DD's during the week and normally the 45 is all DD on Saturday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on July 06, 2018, 09:22:04 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 06, 2018, 08:35:25 PM
The 45 is not a WA operated route, so doesn't use the Bridgeman Street bridge to return to garage.

Neither does any route even if it is operated by Walsall. The only Bradford Place route that wouldn't be able to use deckers would be the 34/39 circuit.

Before trying to be a smart arse, get your facts correct.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 06, 2018, 09:22:29 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 06, 2018, 08:35:25 PM
The 45 is not a WA operated route, so doesn't use the Bridgeman Street bridge to return to garage.

I was not referring to the Walsall corporation livery bus, @Westy said he thought that double deckers were discouraged to go to bradford place but this is not the case as the WB 45 using them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 06, 2018, 10:36:09 PM
Quote from: Dom on July 06, 2018, 09:22:04 PM
Neither does any route even if it is operated by Walsall. The only Bradford Place route that wouldn't be able to use deckers would be the 34/39 circuit.

Before trying to be a smart arse, get your facts correct.
Much need in that? No not really! Sorry I rattled your cage, but really your bitchiness was really not needed here at all. If I'm honest all you do is cause bloody arguments because not one person ever agrees with you, cough TfWM cough. Or if someone makes a mistake like I did above, you have turn against them as it angers you that much!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 07, 2018, 08:16:44 AM
Quote from: Jack on July 06, 2018, 10:36:09 PM
Much need in that? No not really! Sorry I rattled your cage, but really your bitchiness was really not needed here at all. If I'm honest all you do is cause bloody arguments because not one person ever agrees with you, cough TfWM cough. Or if someone makes a mistake like I did above, you have turn against them as it angers you that much!

Please stop it
You're just as bad
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 07, 2018, 08:17:30 PM
I forgot to factor the WB45 in, not that it matters, as it wouldn't be affected, as someone else said.

Has 860 had it's display fixed or was it 'having a good day' on the 36, as I saw it in Walsall Bus Station earlier?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 09, 2018, 02:27:04 PM
I have been informed by a Walsall driver that 4601 will be going out on an afternoon peak board. It will apparently do the 701 at around 15:10 from St Thomas Moore to Harden Road, Bloxwich Road. It will then go onto the 302 at the Bus Station from 16:12-21:15, and then finish with two trips on the 6 from 21:25-23:41.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 09, 2018, 05:00:15 PM
Might stand a chance seeing it on the 302 then!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 10, 2018, 07:09:27 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 09, 2018, 05:00:15 PM
Might stand a chance seeing it on the 302 then!

Admittedly I didnt see it on the 302(Wrong place , wrong time presumbly, plus I caught a Diamond, as I needed the chippy!), but it's just left Walsall on the 7!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 10, 2018, 05:17:09 PM
@CL, it isn't noteworthy to see the Crimson Tridents on the Birmingham services, just as common as a E400 as there's never enough Platinums.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 10, 2018, 11:01:42 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 10, 2018, 05:17:09 PM
@CL, it isn't noteworthy to see the Crimson Tridents on the Birmingham services, just as common as a E400 as there's never enough Platinums.

If it's of any interest to you @CL, 4607 actually did the X51S earlier. So it should be on late night 937A's at the moment on it's last trip of the night,

Quote from: metrocity on July 10, 2018, 07:27:10 PM
4605 (branded for Route 10) heading into City just after 1700 on 937 this evening

@metrocity This would have operated the 17:30 937 to Boney Hay.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 11, 2018, 05:03:47 PM
Anyone know what the Sunday timetable change will be for the 89 on 22/7?

Is it likely to interwork with the 10/10a?

(As usual, on behalf of my sister!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 11, 2018, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 11, 2018, 05:03:47 PM
Anyone know what the Sunday timetable change will be for the 89 on 22/7?

Is it likely to interwork with the 10/10a?

(As usual, on behalf of my sister!)

Sunday 89 will depart Walsall and Wolverhampton at 55 minutes past the hour. From Walsall, from 18:05 and onwards, it will depart at 05 minutes past the hour as normal. From Wolverhampton, from 19:08 and onwards, it will depart at 08 minutes past the hour. It will interwork with some routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 12, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
Hang on.

Re Tony's comment in the Noteworthy thread.

Have I misunderstood something here.

I thought 4601 wasn't supposed to go into Brum, because it didn't have a 'trap' on?


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on July 12, 2018, 06:33:44 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 12, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
Hang on.

Re Tony's comment in the Noteworthy thread.

Have I misunderstood something here.

I thought 4601 wasn't supposed to go into Brum, because it didn't have a 'trap' on?
It won't usually be found on there, hence why Tony posted it in the noteworthy workings thread.
Its the same with the 11 branded  gemini at AG (Other than 4660/69/79 they aren't trapped), but they have got into Birmingham  City Centre in the past. Same with the Presidents when they were at AG and the B7TL ALX400 currently at AG, I went on 4066 into Birmingham City Centre on a 37 a few years back in January 2016.
But i'm sure its been said they can still use it if nothing else is available, to keep the service running.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on July 12, 2018, 06:36:32 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 12, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
Hang on.

Re Tony's comment in the Noteworthy thread.

Have I misunderstood something here.

I thought 4601 wasn't supposed to go into Brum, because it didn't have a 'trap' on?

Sometimes they have no choice but to allocate Tridents to keep buses double deck.

Would you rather a single deck allocated to Platinum services. 1840 was allocated to an X51 board on Tuesday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 12, 2018, 06:39:59 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 12, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
Hang on.

Re Tony's comment in the Noteworthy thread.

Have I misunderstood something here.

I thought 4601 wasn't supposed to go into Brum, because it didn't have a 'trap' on?

There is a bit in the SQPS that says non-compliant vehicles can be used occasionally if it means keeping the service running
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 14, 2018, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: CL on July 14, 2018, 01:55:14 PM
6758 on the WA6. According to the spreadsheet, MMCs are only common on Sundays.

@CL They're common on the 6/7/7A on Saturday's too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on July 14, 2018, 11:36:30 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 14, 2018, 10:12:41 PM
@CL They're common on the 6/7/7A on Saturday's too.
Duly noted. I'm not often in this part of the region, so I usually go by what's on the spreadsheet. :) Thanks for the heads up
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 18, 2018, 06:42:00 PM
Anyone noted the traffic notice regarding Staffordshire child fares appearing?

Suppose this ties in with the Lichfield service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 19, 2018, 03:15:56 PM
4596 - 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 19, 2018, 06:57:11 PM
Bit of action near the depot tonight, as a group of men ran out of Carl St onto Bloxwich Road & proceeded to give two other men a right kicking.

By the time, I got to Leamore, the police were already on their way!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 21, 2018, 11:28:46 PM
Is there genuinely someone sent by Walsall to patrol the Bull Street bus stops on a Saturday night or is there a kid pretending to have a job with the buses again?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 23, 2018, 09:43:59 AM
Quote from: Kevin on July 21, 2018, 11:28:46 PM
Is there genuinely someone sent by Walsall to patrol the Bull Street bus stops on a Saturday night or is there a kid pretending to have a job with the buses again?

I heard a story of a kid trying to impersonate a Revenue Inspector and attempting to check everyone's tickets on Saturday. I'm not sure if this is the same kid you're on about?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 23, 2018, 12:04:35 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 23, 2018, 09:43:59 AM
I heard a story of a kid trying to impersonate a Revenue Inspector and attempting to check everyone's tickets on Saturday. I'm not sure if this is the same kid you're on about?

I could take a good guess as to who that is
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: V89MOA on July 23, 2018, 12:18:08 PM
Quote from: John on July 23, 2018, 12:04:35 PM
I could take a good guess as to who that is
Does it Rhyme with Ken Digby by any chance? 😂😂. He's known for it, inspectors have told him off before and he doesn't care.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 23, 2018, 12:29:19 PM
Quote from: John on July 23, 2018, 12:04:35 PM
I could take a good guess as to who that is

It sounds like it's a new kid from the description I've been told. Apparently it's a white kid with blonde hair. He was wearing an orange hi viz and a "walkie talkie" too. He was apparently trying to impersonate an Inspector by trying to check passenger's tickets. That's just what I've been told by a couple of people anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 23, 2018, 12:29:46 PM
Quote from: V89MOA on July 23, 2018, 12:18:08 PM

Does it Rhyme with Ken Digby by any chance? 😂😂. He's known for it, inspectors have told him off before and he doesn't care.

Wasn't him
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 23, 2018, 12:43:31 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 23, 2018, 11:43:55 AM
4328 and 4606 are on the 70A.

4328 is on 77 and has just left Walsall, @Jack.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 23, 2018, 12:53:30 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on July 23, 2018, 12:43:31 PM
4328 is on 77 and has just left Walsall, @Jack.
It's 4330 on the 70A, have no idea why I put 4328!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 23, 2018, 01:47:12 PM
Quote from: V89MOA on July 23, 2018, 12:18:08 PM

Does it Rhyme with Ken Digby by any chance? 😂😂. He's known for it, inspectors have told him off before and he doesn't care.

No wasn't thinking of him
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 23, 2018, 01:48:36 PM
Are the Tridents still used on the 10, and B7RLEs on the 10A, or do both now have single deckers?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 23, 2018, 01:52:21 PM
Quote from: John on July 23, 2018, 01:48:36 PM
Are the Tridents still used on the 10, and B7RLEs on the 10A, or do both now have single deckers?

The 10/A will now be predominantly B7RLE allocated now according to a comment that was put on Facebook the other day. Although I believe two boards will still be allocated deckers. On Saturday's and Sunday's the 10/A should have Platinum's allocated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 23, 2018, 02:00:09 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 23, 2018, 01:52:21 PM
The 10/A will now be predominantly B7RLE allocated now according to a comment that was put on Facebook the other day. Although I believe two boards will still be allocated deckers. On Saturday's and Sunday's the 10/A should have Platinum's allocated.

So I take it the Tridents will be debranded? Guess the loadings to Brownhills don't warrant a decker
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2018, 02:03:39 PM
I assume the pvr of the 10/A is less than 7. If so why not use the 12 plate B7RLES at Walsall, could even give them a bit of branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on July 23, 2018, 02:17:30 PM
It needs at least 9 minimum.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 23, 2018, 02:40:38 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2018, 02:03:39 PM
I assume the pvr of the 10/A is less than 7. If so why not use the 12 plate B7RLES at Walsall, could even give them a bit of branding
As they are nearly always on the 29. I would Crimson them before branding any of them, they are pink!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on July 23, 2018, 02:41:28 PM
Quote from: John on July 23, 2018, 01:48:36 PM
Are the Tridents still used on the 10, and B7RLEs on the 10A, or do both now have single deckers?

The timetable suggests interworking in Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 23, 2018, 06:27:32 PM
Quote from: Kevin on July 23, 2018, 02:41:28 PM
The timetable suggests interworking in Walsall

Thanks. I haven't seen the combined timetable for both. Only seen the 10A one
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 23, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: John on July 23, 2018, 01:47:12 PM
No wasn't thinking of him

What is he trying to achieve by doing this?

How does Joe Public know this bloke isnt kosher?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 23, 2018, 06:56:21 PM
Typical.

4601 on the 301 today, but I'd already committed to the Arriva 2!

(Brother did catch it earlier, but the card reader wasnt working, he said!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 24, 2018, 12:29:09 AM
Something that may be of interest to some people, as this blind will be a common sight in Birmingham from now on. I saw it being used yesterday whilst on Moor Street Queensway. So after asking a few of the drivers I know, I managed to find out what it's purpose is...

The blind has been introduced to avoid the confusion caused on Moor Street Queensway with the Walsall Platinum routes (934/935/936/937/937A/997/997E/X51) inter-working in Birmingham.

If a bus has less than 12 minutes before they are due out of Lower Bull Street, they are to change the blind to the service they are going to be going out as and make sure the ticket machine is set correctly for the outbound journey.

However if a bus has more than 12 minutes before they are due out of Lower Bull Street, they have been instructed to use this "I'm dropping off only" blind. This is to prevent people getting confused and getting on the wrong bus. The instruction is to use this blind to Lower Bull Street, then loop back to Moor Street Queensway via Priory Queensway to load up there 7 minutes prior to departure from Lower Bull Street.

To be honest, I think this is a good idea to introduce this new blind. I've seen people get confused with the inter-workings which happen with Walsall's Platinum routes. They've got on a bus showing the blind of the inbound service, then it has changed onto another route for the outbound service which wasn't the one they wanted.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on July 24, 2018, 02:48:33 AM
@Michael Bevan

It's certainly a smart and, I can't speak for anyone else but, welcome initiative on NX's part. The blind doesn't look too shabby either! Looks a bit like the ReadingBuses font :P

I recall something similar was put into place on BC's routes when the Harborne corridor's relief point was moved from Snow Hill Queensway to Colmore Row. The destination told passengers that the drivers were changing over, thus, instructing them not to board. Didn't seem to last very long, though. Hopefully not the same case here. :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on July 24, 2018, 08:57:01 AM
I don't understand why passengers are getting on the wrong bus. Drivers should be telling passengers who are getting on at Moor Street or Bull Street what route they are if they haven't changed their display yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 24, 2018, 09:10:04 AM
There is no 'confusion'. The buses either come onto Moor Street with the route displayed that it is leaving on, or not in service if they are laying over before leaving
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on July 24, 2018, 09:33:36 AM
Quote from: John on July 24, 2018, 09:10:04 AM
There is no 'confusion'. The buses either come onto Moor Street with the route displayed that it is leaving on, or not in service if they are laying over before leaving

Exactly my thinking. At the end of the day 99.9% of passengers don't look at it anyway. It's far easier for the driver to blank it off than go scrolling through the changer to find 'I'm dropping off only'.

Can't see it being used much if I'm honest.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 24, 2018, 09:55:40 AM
Quote from: John on July 24, 2018, 09:10:04 AM
There is no 'confusion'. The buses either come onto Moor Street with the route displayed that it is leaving on, or not in service if they are laying over before leaving

I've seen buses come into Moor Street Queensway with the inbound service blind still on. That's what sometimes causes confusion.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 24, 2018, 10:00:00 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 24, 2018, 09:55:40 AM
I've seen buses come into Moor Street Queensway with the inbound service blind still on. That's what sometimes causes confusion.
I have aswell. Some confused people I've seen get without the displays being changed, so I think it should work.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on July 24, 2018, 10:30:27 AM
The route is changed while at the stop as people are getting off, either to the outbound route or to not in service. Still not 'confusing' as people will see this while waiting at the stop and not get on....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 24, 2018, 05:01:16 PM
Saw that on a OOS Plattie this morning on the Bloxwich Road!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on July 24, 2018, 05:13:07 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 24, 2018, 05:01:16 PM
Saw that on a OOS Plattie this morning on the Bloxwich Road!
6737 was using it in the City Centre earlier at 16:00.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on July 24, 2018, 11:16:41 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2018, 02:03:39 PM
I assume the pvr of the 10/A is less than 7. If so why not use the 12 plate B7RLES at Walsall, could even give them a bit of branding


The 10/A is now a pvr of 10 and daytime service as 9. One extra board added before the changes. The 10 does warrant double deckers especially at peak times putting single decks on is not a good idea. unless frequency incresees. Why not separate Lichfield boards and keep the 10 double deck 10A single deck.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 25, 2018, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on July 24, 2018, 11:16:41 PM

The 10/A is now a pvr of 10 and daytime service as 9. One extra board added before the changes. The 10 does warrant double deckers especially at peak times putting single decks on is not a good idea. unless frequency incresees. Why not separate Lichfield boards and keep the 10 double deck 10A single deck.

Cheaper that way I suppose.

Look what they did with the Wolves to Stafford service to make that pay!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 25, 2018, 06:59:06 PM
4601 looking smart has spent the day on the 6. Some of the elderly passengers were commenting on how clean and fresh the bus looked. Others were saying it looks as good as new.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 25, 2018, 10:32:53 PM
X51 changes to a 937 or 997 at Brum I believe.

When should they do the change?

Moor Street or Bull Street?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 29, 2018, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 25, 2018, 10:32:53 PM
X51 changes to a 937 or 997 at Brum I believe.

When should they do the change?

Moor Street or Bull Street?
They change to a 997/E? They change at either really.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 01, 2018, 10:33:19 PM
Is it possible to publish a list of what is actually on a Walsall garage destination display currently, including any 'special' displays, like the destinations only used at snow time/other rare occasions, plus the 'newer' ones, like the 'Dropping Off Only' display?

Just curious.

Or does this come under things like 'Don't ask for PVR' ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 02, 2018, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 01, 2018, 10:33:19 PM
Is it possible to publish a list of what is actually on a Walsall garage destination display currently, including any 'special' displays, like the destinations only used at snow time/other rare occasions, plus the 'newer' ones, like the 'Dropping Off Only' display?

Just curious.

Or does this come under things like 'Don't ask for PVR' ?

I'm disappointed, I used to use Walsall garage but it's been removed on the latest update. All we have now as special is:

"Not in service"
"Dropping off only"
"National express West Midlands"
"Walsall staff bus"
"Vasaikh festival"

That's it from memory but there used to be tons more
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 03, 2018, 08:36:27 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on August 02, 2018, 10:01:01 PM
I'm disappointed, I used to use Walsall garage but it's been removed on the latest update. All we have now as special is:

"Not in service"
"Dropping off only"
"National express West Midlands"
"Walsall staff bus"
"Vasaikh festival"

That's it from memory but there used to be tons more

Dont some 301 / 302 from Bloxwich run to garage late night? If so, whats used for those?

301E Garage for example.

Or am I confusing with the Sunday journeys running from garage?

Dont you have 'Serving main roads only' for  the snow days now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on August 03, 2018, 10:21:00 PM
The 301/302e are still there I mean the Walsall garage desti on its own lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 11:12:42 AM
Ok thx @mikestone
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2018, 12:53:19 PM
Can you please timetable the 4H so it actually runs on time not 10-20 mins late every time! Diamond can manage it so why can't this company?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on August 06, 2018, 12:54:40 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2018, 12:53:19 PM
Can you please timetable the 4H so it actually runs on time not 10-20 mins late every time! Diamond can manage it so why can't this company?

Surely this is a question for NXWM, not a bus forum?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 06, 2018, 01:02:23 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2018, 12:53:19 PM
Can you please timetable the 4H so it actually runs on time not 10-20 mins late every time! Diamond can manage it so why can't this company?

You serious?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 01:48:17 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2018, 12:53:19 PM
Can you please timetable the 4H so it actually runs on time not 10-20 mins late every time! Diamond can manage it so why can't this company?
Maybe because of bad traffic and diamond get lucky not to get in the traffic
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 06, 2018, 01:58:17 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2018, 12:53:19 PM
Can you please timetable the 4H so it actually runs on time not 10-20 mins late every time! Diamond can manage it so why can't this company?

If it goes on a similar route to the 4M it goes everywhere there is traffic and 2 or 3 bus stations so it will be late. You need to contact NXWM they won't read this.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 02:02:44 PM
just a quick question who sorts out the buses each day to go on a route so for an example a driver goes to the garage gets what route he's or she's doing does he or she get told What bus to drive or do the drivers pick What one
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on August 06, 2018, 02:37:27 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 01:48:17 PM
Maybe because of bad traffic and diamond get lucky not to get in the traffic


Probably because diamond has fewer passengers less stops no door interlock on vechiles so able to keep time better.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 06, 2018, 02:49:53 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 06, 2018, 01:58:17 PM
If it goes on a similar route to the 4M it goes everywhere there is traffic and 2 or 3 bus stations so it will be late. You need to contact NXWM they won't read this.

There are people who work at NXWM who frequent this forum, in fact, the owner of this site is a senior manager at NXWM. Still, you'd be right in saying that contacting them directly would be the best option.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 06, 2018, 03:25:39 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 02:02:44 PM
just a quick question who sorts out the buses each day to go on a route so for an example a driver goes to the garage gets what route he's or she's doing does he or she get told What bus to drive or do the drivers pick What one
they are allacated  a bus like other ops think it's done late due to parking of the buses & management  know where the buses are
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 03:32:39 PM
thanks @Solo1 I'm very interested how they did beens that I'm a kid
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 06, 2018, 03:58:27 PM
@I love Walsall buses,

Not noteworthy to see Tridents on the 29, 301/2 at all now the 10/10A are B7RLE (Urban 1 and Urban 2).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 04:14:55 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 06, 2018, 03:58:27 PM
@I love Walsall buses,

Not noteworthy to see Tridents on the 29, 301/2 at all now the 10/10A are B7RLE (Urban 1 and Urban 2).
thank you @Jack as a kid u not sure if to put it on or not
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 04:17:45 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 06, 2018, 03:58:27 PM
@I love Walsall buses,

Not noteworthy to see Tridents on the 29, 301/2 at all now the 10/10A are B7RLE (Urban 1 and Urban 2).
@Jack is the urban 1 the older B7RLES and urban 2 the newer B7RLES
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 06, 2018, 04:21:53 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 04:17:45 PM
@Jack is the urban 1 the older B7RLES and urban 2 the newer B7RLES
Yes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 06, 2018, 04:24:40 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 06, 2018, 04:21:53 PM
Yes.
does anybody know a couple of weeks ago a platinum was on the 302 on a morning peak bored sorry couldnt get fleet number
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 06, 2018, 06:25:03 PM
4601 was on the 302 today.

(I even managed to catch it to Walsall at 649am today. Same driver is doing the morning board irrespective whether its single or double!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2018, 09:09:26 PM
What buses confirmed to be on the 10 on Saturday for the heritage day?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 06, 2018, 09:34:20 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2018, 09:09:26 PM
What buses confirmed to be on the 10 on Saturday for the heritage day?

I've heard the heritage running day has been postponed. So probably just standard B7RLE's or Platinum's on Saturday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 06, 2018, 09:37:33 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 06, 2018, 09:34:20 PM
I've heard the heritage running day has been postponed. So probably just standard B7RLE's or Platinum's on Saturday.
any reason why is been postponed if it's true
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 06, 2018, 09:50:55 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on August 06, 2018, 09:37:33 PM
any reason why is been postponed if it's true

To make sure everything is spot on. Watch  for an announcement on a new date very soon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 07, 2018, 11:36:17 AM
Why do the new 10/A have B7RLES haven't they programmed them into the tridents yet or enviro 400
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 07, 2018, 02:53:44 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 07, 2018, 11:36:17 AM
Why do the new 10/A have B7RLES haven't they programmed them into the tridents yet or enviro 400

As it's been said quite a few times on the forum, the allocation for the 10/A is now predominantly B7RLE's. I've been told though that apparently there will be two decker boards once the schools return.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 07, 2018, 04:06:31 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 07, 2018, 02:53:44 PM
As it's been said quite a few times on the forum, the allocation for the 10/A is now predominantly B7RLE's. I've been told though that apparently there will be two decker boards once the schools return.
The 29 seems to have to gone to Trident allocation now since the Urban 2's have gone to the 10/10A.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 07, 2018, 07:45:49 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 07, 2018, 04:06:31 PM
The 29 seems to have to gone to Trident allocation now since the Urban 2's have gone to the 10/10A.
It's rare if u get a enviro 400 and on a Sunday we get enviro 200
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 08, 2018, 05:25:20 AM
Was there any particular reason why 855 was on the 13 yesterday evening? I have noticed various 301/302 branded B7RLE's and 37 or 4 branded Omnilinks on the 11/13 as of late, do Walsall no longer have enough non-branded ones to cover the whole requirement for the route?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on August 08, 2018, 11:06:58 AM
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 08, 2018, 05:25:20 AM
Was there any particular reason why 855 was on the 13 yesterday evening? I have noticed various 301/302 branded B7RLE's and 37 or 4 branded Omnilinks on the 11/13 as of late, do Walsall no longer have enough non-branded ones to cover the whole requirement for the route?

Probably because BP can only have single deck with the 10/A now single deck using 9 boards. 29/301/302 will have Tridents on. As there are 12 branded 301/2 enough for all day boards they'll often be elsewhere.  1751/1754 was on 10 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 08, 2018, 12:21:43 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on August 08, 2018, 11:06:58 AM
Probably because BP can only have single deck with the 10/A now single deck using 9 boards. 29/301/302 will have Tridents on. As there are 12 branded 301/2 enough for all day boards they'll often be elsewhere.  1751/1754 was on 10 today.

BP can have deckers, the 45 gets them on occasion. The issue is a low bridge between the depot and BP as far as I'm aware, so Walsall garage don't put them on routes out of there. There has been deckers on the 11/13 in the past, I've seen a photo of one at the stop outside the Builders Merchants next to the Piano Bridge in Tipton.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 08, 2018, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 08, 2018, 12:21:43 PM
BP can have deckers, the 45 gets them on occasion. The issue is a low bridge between the depot and BP as far as I'm aware, so Walsall garage don't put them on routes out of there. There has been deckers on the 11/13 in the past, I've seen a photo of one at the stop outside the Builders Merchants next to the Piano Bridge in Tipton.
The 45 is allocated Deckers everyday apart from Sundays. BP also gets Deckers on the 4 from Diamond. Yes the low bridge on Bridgeman Street.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 08, 2018, 05:13:51 PM
855 was on service from the 719 13 from Walsall yesterday because I was on it, due to 1837 failing on the 709 11!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 08, 2018, 05:30:58 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 08, 2018, 05:13:51 PM
855 was on service from the 719 13 from Walsall yesterday because I was on it, due to 1837 failing on the 709 11!

Ah, cheers for the explanation. Was that 0709 then, as I caught it in the evening peak from Dudley, so it must've stayed out all day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 08, 2018, 07:01:00 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 08, 2018, 05:30:58 PM
Ah, cheers for the explanation. Was that 0709 then, as I caught it in the evening peak from Dudley, so it must've stayed out all day.

It was the 719 13 it came out on.

Whether it was the scheduled vehicle for that board in the first place, I dont know, but I suspect not!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 10, 2018, 01:43:39 AM
So something rare last night on a urban 2 B7RLE on 301 saying
301 Mossley
via bloxwich 301/302 will become 31/32 from the 2nd of September
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 10, 2018, 05:30:59 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 10, 2018, 01:43:39 AM
So something rare last night on a urban 2 B7RLE on 301 saying
301 Mossley
via bloxwich 301/302 will become 31/32 from the 2nd of September

That isn't rare...It's just that the vehicle has had it's blinds updated, and that must be the new 301/302 blind until the changes on the 2nd of September.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on August 10, 2018, 01:32:59 PM
Reserve 4155 (Y751 TOH) is on 8 & 89 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 10, 2018, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 10, 2018, 05:30:59 AM
That isn't rare...It's just that the vehicle has had it's blinds updated, and that must be the new 301/302 blind until the changes on the 2nd of September.
It's only on the urban 2 B7RLES which are saying it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 11, 2018, 12:09:22 PM
So theres actually no 'Via' on that display?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 11, 2018, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 11, 2018, 12:09:22 PM
So theres actually no 'Via' on that display?
There is via bloxwich then it says it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 11, 2018, 05:14:31 PM
Oh right.

I did see one earlier in town.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 12, 2018, 06:43:09 AM
@I love Walsall buses

4597 not noteworthy in the slightest as there is an 89 board on a Saturday that does a 10A Burntwood trip before going back to garage booked for a Trident
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 12, 2018, 11:26:16 AM
Quote from: John on August 12, 2018, 06:43:09 AM
@I love Walsall buses

4597 not noteworthy in the slightest as there is an 89 board on a Saturday that does a 10A Burntwood trip before going back to garage booked for a Trident
Oh OK thx for that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 12, 2018, 01:25:42 PM
Read on the front display (not into the technical jargon) that the 301 and 302 will be called 31 and 32 from September 1st. Anybody know why other than it's nearer other local numbers such as 29? There's a lot of bus flags and timetables to change!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 12, 2018, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 12, 2018, 01:25:42 PM
Read on the front display (not into the technical jargon) that the 301 and 302 will be called 31 and 32 from September 1st. Anybody know why other than it's nearer other local numbers such as 29? There's a lot of bus flags and timetables to change!

Basically continuing the renumbering into a simpler system!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 13, 2018, 12:52:54 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 10, 2018, 09:20:01 PM
It's only on the urban 2 B7RLES which are saying it
It's on the scanias aswell
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 13, 2018, 12:58:07 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 13, 2018, 12:52:54 AM
It's on the scanias aswell

It was also on a Scania on the 13 earlier on, advising of the change to the 11A.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 13, 2018, 02:22:54 AM
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 13, 2018, 12:58:07 AM
It was also on a Scania on the 13 earlier on, advising of the change to the 11A.
ok I got on 1847 and it said it to lower farm but then on the Walsall display it was the normal
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on August 13, 2018, 07:32:46 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 13, 2018, 02:22:54 AM
ok I got on 1847 and it said it to lower farm but then on the Walsall display it was the normal

Please refrain from using the moving text/marquee tags as some people find this difficult to read, thank you.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 15, 2018, 04:55:09 PM
4H on stand in Halesowen for 13 minutes whilst blocking the 202 from getting into stand. Where's the inspectors to fine them when you need them?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on August 15, 2018, 06:42:31 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 15, 2018, 04:55:09 PM
4H on stand in Halesowen for 13 minutes whilst blocking the 202 from getting into stand. Where's the inspectors to fine them when you need them?

Inspectors? Fine?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 15, 2018, 08:28:29 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 15, 2018, 06:42:31 PM
Inspectors? Fine?
I haven't saw a lot of inspectors recently
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 16, 2018, 05:55:32 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 15, 2018, 08:28:29 PM
I haven't saw a lot of inspectors recently
I've seen revenue inspectors, no more or less than usual.
NX still have quite a few revenue inspectors around the West Midlands, there's often some somewhere in Birmingham City Centre - there were some on Jennens Road checking tickets on the 55/94's the other day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on August 16, 2018, 07:02:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 15, 2018, 04:55:09 PM
4H on stand in Halesowen for 13 minutes whilst blocking the 202 from getting into stand. Where's the inspectors to fine them when you need them?

Centro bus station inspectors do seem to let NX get away with things they don't allow other operators especially Diamond to.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 16, 2018, 07:37:39 PM
Quote from: fleetline6477 on August 16, 2018, 07:02:15 PM
Centro bus station inspectors do seem to let NX get away with things they don't allow other operators especially Diamond to.

Tell me about it this 4H driver didn't even get a word from the Centro inspector despite him standing  in front of the bus by the pelican crossing
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 17, 2018, 12:43:54 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 15, 2018, 08:28:29 PM
I haven't saw a lot of inspectors recently

There was a ticket inspector on two occasions on the X51. Probably because this crosses several ticket boundaries. E.g. the Walsall low fare zone which is not valid past Scott Arms, and the Staffordshire boundary at Sandstone Road.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 17, 2018, 10:32:59 AM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 17, 2018, 12:43:54 AM
There was a ticket inspector on two occasions on the X51. Probably because this crosses several ticket boundaries. E.g. the Walsall low fare zone which is not valid past Scott Arms, and the Staffordshire boundary at Sandstone Road.
They've been at Price Street and Adderley Street a lot lately.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 17, 2018, 10:39:51 PM
Whilst not specifically "Noteworthy", it may be of interest to some...There's two Tridents on late night Streetly workings tonight. 4606 is on late night 937A's (21:17 and 23:17 journeys off Birmingham), and 4607 is on late night 934/E's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 18, 2018, 06:32:51 PM
That is noteworthy cause it's usually platinums
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 18, 2018, 06:34:44 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 18, 2018, 06:32:51 PM
That is noteworthy cause it's usually platinums

No it isn't as Tridents are regularly on there too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on August 18, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
One change that I have only just noticed, the 36 is moving over Bradford Place.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 18, 2018, 06:35:52 PM
Quote from: John on August 18, 2018, 06:34:44 PM
No it isn't as Tridents are regularly on there too
It's unusual though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 18, 2018, 06:37:43 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 18, 2018, 06:35:52 PM
It's unusual though
No it isn't...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 18, 2018, 07:30:52 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 18, 2018, 06:37:43 PM
No it isn't...
Ok I stand incorrect then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 18, 2018, 07:31:43 PM
I see the 29s are getting single deckers now after the arrival of the BC volvos
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on August 18, 2018, 09:21:45 PM
Quote from: John on August 18, 2018, 06:34:44 PM
No it isn't as Tridents are regularly on there too

It's quite rare for Tridents to be on platinum late boards
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 18, 2018, 09:46:20 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 18, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
One change that I have only just noticed, the 36 is moving over Bradford Place.

I saw that change on Diamond's page.

Didn't think it affected NX, as I hadn't seen anything!

Is there space issues again at St Paul's?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 18, 2018, 09:59:24 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 18, 2018, 09:46:20 PM
I saw that change on Diamond's page.

Didn't think it affected NX, as I hadn't seen anything!

Is there space issues again at St Paul's?
I think it might be diamond idea because Bradford place is quicker to the depot than from the main bus station
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 18, 2018, 10:23:57 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on August 18, 2018, 09:21:45 PM
It's quite rare for Tridents to be on platinum late boards

It's certainly uncommon @PB2938, even though they aren't 'Noteworthy' as such. I only posted it as it's quite uncommon to see the Tridents on late night boards. Walsall don't seem to like putting them on late night boards quite often...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 18, 2018, 11:32:30 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 18, 2018, 10:23:57 PM
It's certainly uncommon @PB2938, even though they aren't 'Noteworthy' as such. I only posted it as it's quite uncommon to see the Tridents on late night boards. Walsall don't seem to like putting them on late night boards quite often...
Agree
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on August 19, 2018, 07:21:56 AM
Quote from: Dom on August 18, 2018, 06:34:55 PM
One change that I have only just noticed, the 36 is moving over Bradford Place.

Makes a bit of sense given it's that side of town, but it would inconvenience people going to Manor Hospital now having to get across town between buses. Perhaps it's to aid reliability?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on August 19, 2018, 04:05:22 PM
Will walsall ever ditch the 3x  ex cannock and 2x ex brum a day X51 extensions? Do they turn a profit?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on August 19, 2018, 04:23:52 PM
Quote from: Bob on August 19, 2018, 04:05:22 PM
Will walsall ever ditch the 3x  ex cannock and 2x ex brum a day X51 extensions? Do they turn a profit?
must pay otherwise would not run it unless it a contract but would be cheaper on the bus than the train
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on August 19, 2018, 04:58:44 PM
Quote from: Kevin on August 19, 2018, 07:21:56 AM
Makes a bit of sense given it's that side of town, but it would inconvenience people going to Manor Hospital now having to get across town between buses. Perhaps it's to aid reliability?

It's a good idea it'll help reliability and passengers have the 39 as well nx and thandi to manor hospital.

The 36 will be on 34 boards and interwork with 39.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on August 19, 2018, 05:01:21 PM
The 36 at 40 10 past the hour is reguly late because it can take too long from bus station to Hospital 8 minutes getting stuck at every red light. While the 36 at 55 and 25 past ussally runs on time as it is timed thandi.

The 36 should be more reliable service from Bradford Place. Not sure which stand it'll use.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 19, 2018, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on August 19, 2018, 05:04:16 PM

The 34, 37, 39 stand?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on August 19, 2018, 05:37:33 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 19, 2018, 05:36:30 PM
The 34, 37, 39 stand?

Doubt it. That stand can easily become overcrowded with buses as it. I can see it moving on to the lesser used 45 stand.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 19, 2018, 05:38:20 PM
Quote from: Dom on August 19, 2018, 05:37:33 PM
Doubt it. That stand can easily become overcrowded with buses as it. I can see it moving on to the lesser used 45 stand.
What about that small stand just behind the 45 and 401E stand?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 19, 2018, 05:39:12 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 19, 2018, 05:38:20 PM
What about that small stand just behind the 45 and 401E stand?

The 'temporary' one?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 19, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 19, 2018, 05:39:12 PM
The 'temporary' one?
That must be it. Pretty sure the 333X stopped there at some point when it ran.

Quote from: Dom on August 19, 2018, 05:37:33 PM
Doubt it. That stand can easily become overcrowded with buses as it. I can see it moving on to the lesser used 45 stand.
Forgotten about the 401E?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ginger66 on August 19, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Unless 45/401 gets rerouted to main station.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on August 19, 2018, 06:40:22 PM
Quote from: Ginger66 on August 19, 2018, 06:12:46 PM
Unless 45/401 gets rerouted to main station.

Really can't see that happening
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on August 19, 2018, 06:57:45 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 19, 2018, 05:39:50 PM
Forgotten about the 401E?

No, just didn't think to mention it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 19, 2018, 11:34:31 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on August 19, 2018, 05:01:21 PM
The 36 at 40 10 past the hour is reguly late because it can take too long from bus station to Hospital 8 minutes getting stuck at every red light. While the 36 at 55 and 25 past ussally runs on time as it is timed thandi.

The 36 should be more reliable service from Bradford Place. Not sure which stand it'll use.
will they still use the enviro 200 on the 36 if it does interiors with 39 nice to see it in bilston and stowlawn
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 20, 2018, 05:02:11 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 19, 2018, 05:36:30 PM
The 34, 37, 39 stand?
according to west midlands bus times its saying on the 34/37/39 stand 36 from the 2nd of september including diamonds 36 aswell
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 20, 2018, 10:01:38 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 20, 2018, 05:02:11 PM
according to west midlands bus times its saying on the 34/37/39 stand 36 from the 2nd of september including diamonds 36 aswell

But how can the 36 go from Bradford place to the Wharf which is it's first stop?? Am I being thick?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 20, 2018, 10:35:40 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 20, 2018, 10:01:38 PM
But how can the 36 go from Bradford place to the Wharf which is it's first stop?? Am I being thick?

It won't serve The Wharf.

It will go straight up Bridgeman Street like the 39.

(Actually, I'm surprised they haven't found a way of ditching the 36 & incorporating it into the 39! Alumwell would be the issue!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 21, 2018, 06:56:03 AM
1753 & 1761 now debranded from 301/302.

Just spotted by Bloxwich Leisure Centre.

1752 also debranded, on 11 / 13.

I assume we're keeping these at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on August 21, 2018, 11:55:15 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 21, 2018, 06:56:03 AM
1753 & 1761 now debranded from 301/302.

Just spotted by Bloxwich Leisure Centre.

1752 also debranded, on 11 / 13.

I assume we're keeping these at Walsall?

Maybe 21xx from BC are being repainted to the corporate livery for 31/32 but to repaint 9 buses in 2 weeks is a bit tight.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 21, 2018, 12:05:30 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on August 21, 2018, 11:55:15 AM
Maybe 21xx from BC are being repainted to the corporate livery for 31/32 but to repaint 9 buses in 2 weeks is a bit tight.
1750-1761 could then go onto the 29 and 10/A.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 21, 2018, 05:22:36 PM
For those who aren't aware, NX have won the tender for the evening/Sunday 19 and Sunday 3A. NX will be cutting the 3A back to Brownhills Parade though, and renumbering it the 3.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on August 21, 2018, 05:33:11 PM
I'd be surprised if NX don't go commercial on the 19, 3 & 35A as they'd probably be quite successful.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 21, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned or how long it's been, but 1756 no longer has branding for the 301/2, presumably due to the upcoming changes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 21, 2018, 07:32:24 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 21, 2018, 07:22:52 PM
Not sure if it's been mentioned or how long it's been, but 1756 no longer has branding for the 301/2, presumably due to the upcoming changes.

I did mention other members of the batch in an earlier post(add 1750 to that!).

They seem to have made a good job of debranding.

You'd never be able to tell, if you didnt know the numbers already!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 21, 2018, 07:43:59 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 21, 2018, 07:32:24 PM
I did mention other members of the batch in an earlier post(add 1750 to that!).

They seem to have made a good job of debranding.

You'd never be able to tell, if you didnt know the numbers already!

I could see where the vinyl had been towards the rear of the bus when I got off, but you'd only really notice if you were looking for it, like I was. I agree that they've done a good job of it, now all they need to do is add branding for the 11/11A. ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 21, 2018, 08:00:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 21, 2018, 06:56:03 AM
1753 & 1761 now debranded from 301/302.

Just spotted by Bloxwich Leisure Centre.

1752 also debranded, on 11 / 13.

I assume we're keeping these at Walsall?
1754/1760 now debranded aswell I think 1759 might get de branded at yardley wood because it still there or will Walsall de brand it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 21, 2018, 08:06:10 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 21, 2018, 05:22:36 PM
For those who aren't aware, NX have won the tender for the evening/Sunday 19 and Sunday 3A. NX will be cutting the 3A back to Brownhills Parade though, and renumbering it the 3.

Where did you get that info from? Just curious!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on August 21, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 21, 2018, 08:06:10 PM
Where did you get that info from? Just curious!

And also when is this happening
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 22, 2018, 12:24:30 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on August 21, 2018, 11:16:38 PM
And also when is this happening
October
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on August 22, 2018, 08:42:01 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 22, 2018, 12:24:30 AM
October

Are all tenders up for renewal end of October does that mean Sunday 36/41 35/77 could change operators.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 22, 2018, 06:25:22 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on August 22, 2018, 08:42:01 AM
Are all tenders up for renewal end of October does that mean Sunday 36/41 35/77 could change operators.
I'm not sure
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Alex on August 22, 2018, 11:30:37 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on August 22, 2018, 08:42:01 AM
Are all tenders up for renewal end of October does that mean Sunday 36/41 35/77 could change operators.

No. The only Walsall tenders up for renewal were the 3A and the Evening and Sunday 19s.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 25, 2018, 11:42:41 PM
Some of the Walsall routes will be moved in the bus station
New 31 will be at stand D with diamond
New 32 will be at stand E with diamond
Route 29 will move from stand M to stand F
Route 8/89 will move from stand J to stand H
Route 41 will move from stand H to stand M with thandis 335
That's all I think hope I could help
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 25, 2018, 11:50:08 PM
Also all buses from stand A to C will move onto Lichfield street from 3rd of September to 23rd of September I think for refurbishment on the other part of the bus station except diamonds 74 which will go to stand F for the time beane
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 26, 2018, 02:21:51 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 25, 2018, 11:50:08 PM
Also all buses from stand A to C will move onto Lichfield street from 3rd of September to 23rd of September I think for refurbishment on the other part of the bus station except diamonds 74 which will go to stand F for the time beane

Hope they keep the Platinum branding on the stands like they have now and in wolverhampton for the 529
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on August 27, 2018, 06:40:31 PM
Does anyone know which crimson Trident took Myra Syal around Essington?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 27, 2018, 07:17:30 PM
I didn't know about that I'm curious now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 27, 2018, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 27, 2018, 07:17:30 PM
Not sure
If you don't know, then surely there's no need to reply with an unnecessary comment?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 27, 2018, 07:55:16 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 27, 2018, 07:25:59 PM
If you don't know, then surely there's no need to reply with an unnecessary comment?
I have now edited it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 27, 2018, 09:34:36 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on August 21, 2018, 05:33:11 PM
I'd be surprised if NX don't go commercial on the 19, 3 & 35A as they'd probably be quite successful.

This will be the first time in 8 years that NX will have operated on the 19(319).

I thought the Monday to Saturday operation on the 319 as was, was fairly profitable for NX back in the day.

It was a surprise that they didn't re-register it back in 2010.

As for the 3, it isn't a surprise it was cut back to Brownhills, as the 10 is now operated to Brownhills West evenings & Sundays!

Does anyone use the Pelsall Road section evening & Sundays, as I would've thought a 10B serving Clayhanger & Brownhills West would have been a good idea instead, possibly interworking with the normal 10?

(Pelsall Lane, maybe the 8 could operate evening & Sundays instead?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 27, 2018, 10:31:02 PM
Used the 10A today it was really busy... only a couple got off in Lichfield however there were enough getting off near the bus station to make it worthwhile continuing. There was also a large queue at the bus station waiting to get on towards Walsall. For those interested a non-route specific Platinum bus was used.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 28, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 27, 2018, 10:31:02 PM
Used the 10A today it was really busy... only a couple got off in Lichfield however there were enough getting off near the bus station to make it worthwhile continuing. There was also a large queue at the bus station waiting to get on towards Walsall. For those interested a non-route specific Platinum bus was used.

Dont forget the Food Festival was on this weekend.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 28, 2018, 07:27:43 PM
1880 parked up causing a bit of chaos don't know why he stopped to be honest, didn't look like a breakdown to me
Quote from: Westy on August 28, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Dont forget the Food Festival was on this weekend.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 28, 2018, 09:30:23 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 28, 2018, 07:10:06 PM
Dont forget the Food Festival was on this weekend.

Ah yes very true. On another note definitely a bad route for a decker there are some tight roads especially when cars are parked on either side.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 28, 2018, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 28, 2018, 09:30:23 PM
Ah yes very true. On another note definitely a bad route for a decker there are some tight roads especially when cars are parked on either side.

I'd be interested to see what happens, if it's still running by then, for the loadings for Lichfield Bower, as Walsall used to run frequent shuttle buses to & from Lichfield back in the early to mid 80's & every bus left Walsall full!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 28, 2018, 10:04:30 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 28, 2018, 09:30:23 PM
Ah yes very true. On another note definitely a bad route for a decker there are some tight roads especially when cars are parked on either side.

What difference do parked cars make for a double decker?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 28, 2018, 10:18:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 28, 2018, 10:04:30 PM
What difference do parked cars make for a double decker?

Just felt generally more awkward (I dont drive so pure passenger perspective!) and there were alot of branches crashing on the roof.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on August 29, 2018, 06:47:29 PM
l.murphy123. Height of bus as nothing to do with the manoiverability of the bus.  It's the wheel base and front and rear overhang that is important
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 29, 2018, 09:43:13 PM
Quote from: andyr on August 29, 2018, 06:47:29 PM
l.murphy123. Height of bus as nothing to do with the manoiverability of the bus.  It's the wheel base and front and rear overhang that is important

I assumed a taller bus would be wider
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 30, 2018, 08:05:19 AM
just so people know.

Saturday's running day is just that. There is nothing going on at Walsall garage, and no access to enthusiasts.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 30, 2018, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 30, 2018, 08:05:19 AM
just so people know.

Saturday's running day is just that. There is nothing going on at Wassail garage, and no access to enthusiasts.
OK tony thanks for that i was just about to ask that but you've beet me to it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 30, 2018, 07:57:28 PM
See the Express & Star have given Saturday a plug but spot the mistake!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 30, 2018, 11:12:21 PM
New timetable for the new 32 is at lower farm saw it today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on August 31, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
again that makes absolutely no sense at all you seem to comment on every singlethread  and every time your comment makes no sense or you end up having to apoligise after. so alittle word of advice DONT COMMENT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on August 31, 2018, 10:47:53 AM
I apologize for my last post but im just getting a little fed up with the same thing every day from the same person
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on August 31, 2018, 12:16:33 PM
Quote from: cris 99 on August 31, 2018, 10:44:00 AM
again that makes absolutely no sense at all you seem to comment on every singlethread  and every time your comment makes no sense or you end up having to apoligise after. so alittle word of advice DONT COMMENT UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT

I understand this one perfectly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: tuthertony on August 31, 2018, 12:31:00 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 30, 2018, 07:57:28 PM
See the Express & Star have given Saturday a plug but spot the mistake!
Strange Metro bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 31, 2018, 05:23:22 PM
Quote from: cris 99 on August 31, 2018, 10:47:53 AM
I apologize for my last post but im just getting a little fed up with the same thing every day from the same person

Who is this aimed at?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 31, 2018, 05:54:26 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 31, 2018, 05:23:22 PM
Who is this aimed at?
Is it not clear who he is replying to, read the post directly above his?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 31, 2018, 06:12:22 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 31, 2018, 05:54:26 PM
Is it not clear who he is replying to, read the post directly above his?
Ok sorry I won't post then I have edited the post and I will with diamond one aswell
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on August 31, 2018, 09:51:20 PM
Saw a X51 branded displaying "I'm dropping off only!" coming into city yesterday but it came up corporation street
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 31, 2018, 10:01:47 PM
Quote from: Hammad on August 31, 2018, 09:51:20 PM
Saw a X51 branded displaying "I'm dropping off only!" coming into city yesterday but it came up corporation street

@Hammad I put a post up with an explanation about the use of the blind last month...

Quote from: Michael Bevan on July 24, 2018, 12:29:09 AM
Something that may be of interest to some people, as this blind will be a common sight in Birmingham from now on. I saw it being used yesterday whilst on Moor Street Queensway. So after asking a few of the drivers I know, I managed to find out what it's purpose is...

The blind has been introduced to avoid the confusion caused on Moor Street Queensway with the Walsall Platinum routes (934/935/936/937/937A/997/997E/X51) inter-working in Birmingham.

If a bus has less than 12 minutes before they are due out of Lower Bull Street, they are to change the blind to the service they are going to be going out as and make sure the ticket machine is set correctly for the outbound journey.

However if a bus has more than 12 minutes before they are due out of Lower Bull Street, they have been instructed to use this "I'm dropping off only" blind. This is to prevent people getting confused and getting on the wrong bus. The instruction is to use this blind to Lower Bull Street, then loop back to Moor Street Queensway via Priory Queensway to load up there 7 minutes prior to departure from Lower Bull Street.

To be honest, I think this is a good idea to introduce this new blind. I've seen people get confused with the inter-workings which happen with Walsall's Platinum routes. They've got on a bus showing the blind of the inbound service, then it has changed onto another route for the outbound service which wasn't the one they wanted.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 31, 2018, 10:33:43 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 31, 2018, 10:01:47 PM
@Hammad I put a post up with an explanation about the use of the blind last month...
I saw 1752 saying it aswell in the bus station after coming off a 302 last Saturday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 01, 2018, 09:53:30 AM
4606 is on the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 01, 2018, 07:26:58 PM
The driver turned the engine of on 6732 at the Birmingham Road, Broadway X51 stop in Walsall this afternoon (17:20 from Walsall) after 5 men just tried to walk on with no valid ticket and without paying.
Whilst 5 men held the bus up for a while, trying to threaten and intimidate him into giving them a free ride.
I feel sorry for the drivers who have to put up with these idiots on a daily basis.
To be honest the 2 idiots shouting repetively "Come on move, you get paid whether you move or not anyway" and the man who made a comment "no you don't" when the driver said "I get paid whether I wait here all night anyway", are no better themselves.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 01, 2018, 11:50:31 PM
Quote from: 2206 on September 01, 2018, 07:26:58 PM
The driver turned the engine of on 6732 at the Birmingham Road, Broadway X51 stop in Walsall this afternoon (17:20 from Walsall) after 5 men just tried to walk on with no valid ticket and without paying.
Whilst 5 men held the bus up for a while, trying to threaten and intimidate him into giving them a free ride.
I feel sorry for the drivers who have to put up with these idiots on a daily basis.
To be honest the 2 idiots shouting repetively "Come on move, you get paid whether you move or not anyway" and the man who made a comment "no you don't" when the driver said "I get paid whether I wait here all night anyway", are no better themselves.

Are these 2 separate 'Idiots' already on the bus, or out of the 5 wanting a free ride?

By the way, I thought drivers had an alert button for things like this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2018, 12:01:08 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2018, 11:50:31 PM
Are these 2 separate 'Idiots' already on the bus, or out of the 5 wanting a free ride?

By the way, I thought drivers had an alert button for things like this?
It's a code red button in the cab to call the police straight away I think I thought he would've beens he's getting abused
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on September 02, 2018, 12:02:39 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2018, 12:01:08 AM
It's a code red button in the cab to call the police straight away I think I thought he would've beens he's getting abused

Unless there is violence the best they can do is ring the bandit alarm.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2018, 12:05:25 AM
Quote from: Dom on September 02, 2018, 12:02:39 AM
Unless there is violence the best they can do is ring the bandit alarm.
Agree @Dom did the bus depart @2206 with them stupid people on it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 02, 2018, 09:03:06 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 01, 2018, 11:50:31 PM
Are these 2 separate 'Idiots' already on the bus, or out of the 5 wanting a free ride?

By the way, I thought drivers had an alert button for things like this?
Already on the bus.
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2018, 12:05:25 AM
Agree @Dom did the bus depart @2206 with them stupid people on it
Yes.
The driver stood his ground and after about 10 minutes they came back down from the top deck to argue about it, they ended up purchasing a family daysaver (then shouting some verbal abuse as they went back up the stairs).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mikestone on September 02, 2018, 10:05:56 AM
When I first saw 4601 I thought the yellow bands on 4601 were too deep? I was hoping to do a direct comparison with 116 but didn't see them together yesterday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 02, 2018, 11:58:07 AM
Quote from: mikestone on September 02, 2018, 10:05:56 AM
When I first saw 4601 I thought the yellow bands on 4601 were too deep? I was hoping to do a direct comparison with 116 but didn't see them together yesterday.

There is a photo on Facebook.

Try looking for A Stuart Williams.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 02, 2018, 12:01:47 PM
Deleted - Other party made a mistake!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on September 02, 2018, 12:16:32 PM
Quote from: mikestone on September 02, 2018, 10:05:56 AM
When I first saw 4601 I thought the yellow bands on 4601 were too deep? I was hoping to do a direct comparison with 116 but didn't see them together yesterday.
@CL has a picture of the 2 of them together, I believe there is a link in the photo thread @mikestone for his flickr page if that helps
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 02, 2018, 12:19:12 PM
see link below
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on September 02, 2018, 03:39:41 PM
How many buses are ready for the 31/32 services  on the
New livery of wmbus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: tuthertony on September 02, 2018, 05:34:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 02, 2018, 12:19:12 PM
see link below
I IRC in WCT days through yellow bands followed the construction of the bodywork.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2018, 07:52:31 PM
Will the 31/32 still interwork with each other on the night
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 03, 2018, 09:41:13 PM
Has there been/will there be a change to the 'Scania, E200,E400, Plattie only' policy on Sundays only, since the change, as by rights, they should be using the transferred Mark 2 Eclipses when they've been painted, on 31 & 32 all week?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 03, 2018, 11:28:59 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 03, 2018, 09:41:13 PM
Has there been/will there be a change to the 'Scania, E200,E400, Plattie only' policy on Sundays only, since the change, as by rights, they should be using the transferred Mark 2 Eclipses when they've been painted, on 31 & 32 all week?
Yes there was only one scania on yesterday all the rest was Mark 2 eclipses on the 31/32
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 03, 2018, 11:37:27 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 03, 2018, 11:26:55 PM
Trident on a WA 31 today

Tridents aren't "Noteworthy" on the 31, as there are a few peak and school boards that still have journeys on the 31. I believe there is also one school board that does a 32 in the morning too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 12:32:52 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 03, 2018, 11:37:27 PM
Tridents aren't "Noteworthy" on the 31, as there are a few peak and school boards that still have journeys on the 31. I believe there is also one school board that does a 32 in the morning too.
Oh ok didn't know that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 04, 2018, 11:30:37 AM
4335 on loan to Walsall on 41 today
4363 on loan on 89

1765-7

Nice selection on the 10 today

1858 4 Branded
1887 34 Branded
4597
4603
4733
1755
1762
1769
2115
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 04, 2018, 03:11:31 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 03:07:02 PM
1851-29

Scania OmniLinks will be the main allocation type on the 29.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 05:40:33 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 04, 2018, 03:11:31 PM
Scania OmniLinks will be the main allocation type on the 29.
For now one then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 04, 2018, 05:59:33 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 05:40:33 PM
For now one then
Omnilinks have been common on the 29 for ages.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 04, 2018, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 04, 2018, 05:59:33 PM
Omnilinks have been common on the 29 for ages.

Not quite. B7RLE mk2s were the main allocation type for the 29. It has changed from 2nd September 2018.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 06:37:23 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 04, 2018, 06:27:11 PM
Not quite. B7RLE mk2s were the main allocation type for the 29. It has changed from 2nd September 2018.
Mark 1s then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 04, 2018, 07:21:23 PM
Does anyone know the interworking arrangements for the 34/36/39?

(The lady driver I know from the 11's, whose sister works at the same company as me, I spotted driving a 39 last Tuesday & I spotted her on my 11 on Friday & she said (I think?) all the Bradford Place services were on the same rota!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on September 04, 2018, 07:25:25 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 04, 2018, 07:21:23 PM
Does anyone know the interworking arrangements for the 34/36/39?

(The lady driver I know from the 11's, whose sister works at the same company as me, I spotted driving a 39 last Tuesday & I spotted her on my 11 on Friday & she said (I think?) all the Bradford Place services were on the same rota!)

Well, you've just answered your own question?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on September 04, 2018, 07:44:59 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 04, 2018, 07:25:25 PM
Well, you've just answered your own question?

All being on the same drivers rota doesn't necessarily mean they inter-work though?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 07:55:19 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 04, 2018, 07:25:25 PM
Well, you've just answered your own question?
Inter-work  means routes which are on the same running bored like the old 301/302 on a night they would inter work like the driver would do a 301 and then he get back to Walsall and do 302
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on September 04, 2018, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 07:55:19 PM
Inter-work  means routes which are on the same running bored like the old 301/302 on a night they would inter work like the driver would do a 301 and then he get back to Walsall and do 302

I think I know.

Sorry @Westy. From what I can gather, the 36 is on some 34 running boards with the 34/39. These boards are booked Enviro 200.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 08:32:38 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 04, 2018, 08:08:26 PM
I think I know.

Sorry @Westy. From what I can gather, the 36 is on some 34 running boards with the 34/39. These boards are booked Enviro 200.
I was going to say I can't be scania operated because around alumwell it will strugle
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 04, 2018, 10:58:53 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 08:32:38 PM
I was going to say I can't be scania operated because around alumwell it will strugle

I would agree you can't be Scania operated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 04, 2018, 11:07:24 PM
just imagine mark 2 B7RLES on a 34/39 boared
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on September 05, 2018, 04:29:25 PM
Work has started on Walsall Bus Station... stands A B and C (for 51, X51, 934, 935, 952) are closed off... I believe you have to board these round the corner but cant say for sure. Also at Bradford place outside the Saddlers centre the 39 departs from stand V (on the corner, flag says not in use).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 05, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on September 05, 2018, 04:29:25 PM
Work has started on Walsall Bus Station... stands A B and C (for 51, X51, 934, 935, 952) are closed off... I believe you have to board these round the corner but cant say for sure. Also at Bradford place outside the Saddlers centre the 39 departs from stand V (on the corner, flag says not in use).
Never knew the 952 has been extended to Walsall...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on September 05, 2018, 04:35:42 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 05, 2018, 04:32:34 PM
Never knew the 952 has been extended to Walsall...

Apologies that's the perry beeches one from brum... just looked the 77 is also Stand C
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 05, 2018, 07:01:00 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on September 05, 2018, 04:29:25 PM
Work has started on Walsall Bus Station... stands A B and C (for 51, X51, 934, 935, 952) are closed off... I believe you have to board these round the corner but cant say for sure. Also at Bradford place outside the Saddlers centre the 39 departs from stand V (on the corner, flag says not in use).
Ive said about the work on a previous post about the stand a,b,c and thx for the info about the 39
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 05, 2018, 07:23:57 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on September 05, 2018, 04:29:25 PM
Work has started on Walsall Bus Station... stands A B and C (for 51, X51, 934, 935, 952) are closed off... I believe you have to board these round the corner but cant say for sure. Also at Bradford place outside the Saddlers centre the 39 departs from stand V (on the corner, flag says not in use).

You have to board these services at the next stop on Lichfield Street. Buses are unloading just before the Sattelite stands (Stand A, B and C), having their dropback on Hatherton Road, then commencing service from Lichfield Street.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 05, 2018, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 05, 2018, 07:23:57 PM
You have to board these services at the next stop on Lichfield Street. Buses are unloading just before the Sattelite stands (Stand A, B and C), having their dropback on Hatherton Road, then commencing service from Lichfield Street.
Seems reasonable instead of going all the around the bus station I bet it makes them a lot early
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2018, 09:02:10 PM
1772 has now been handed back to the garage, so should be on the way back soon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 05, 2018, 09:09:38 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 05, 2018, 07:55:02 PM
Seems reasonable instead of going all the around the bus station I bet it makes them a lot early

The journeys that arrive from Cannock in the morning, where are they unloading?

Hatherton Road (Outside the job centre, the 'To Cannock' stop) or Lichfield Street?

Hatherton Road would be closer to the Bus Station, than Lichfield Street.


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 05, 2018, 09:14:15 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 05, 2018, 09:09:38 PM
The journeys that arrive from Cannock in the morning, where are they unloading?

Hatherton Road (Outside the job centre, the 'To Cannock' stop) or Lichfield Street?

Hatherton Road would be closer to the Bus Station, than Lichfield Street.
I'm guessing probably hatherton street
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 05, 2018, 09:14:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2018, 09:02:10 PM
1772 has now been handed back to the garage, so should be on the way back soon
Do you know where it went Tony



(You probably think I'm nosey)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 06, 2018, 07:35:56 AM
2128/2131 have gained front West Midlands bus logos.

2128 on 10s today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 08, 2018, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 08, 2018, 06:07:59 PM
1752 and 1754 on the 41 today

All 41 today are B7RLe
All 10/A platinum
All 8/89 double deck Trident /Enviro
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 08, 2018, 11:41:30 PM
Does the 35 still run between Walsall and Aldridge in a Sunday

And also does anyone know what routes inter work by Walsall garage if do it would be very much appreciated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on September 08, 2018, 11:48:55 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 08, 2018, 11:41:30 PM
Does the 35 still run between Walsall and Aldridge in a Sunday

And also does anyone know what routes inter work by Walsall garage if do it would be very much appreciated

Interworks with the 77, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 08, 2018, 11:51:36 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on September 08, 2018, 11:48:55 PM
Interworks with the 77, doesn't it?
Thanks do you know any others by any chance or not
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 09, 2018, 01:10:25 PM
Doesnt the 89 & 10a interwork on Sundays, which would explain the recent timetable change on the Sunday 89(which is great for my sister going to work, but rubbish for her coming back!)?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on September 09, 2018, 01:42:21 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 09, 2018, 01:10:25 PM
Doesnt the 89 & 10a interwork on Sundays, which would explain the recent timetable change on the Sunday 89(which is great for my sister going to work, but rubbish for her coming back!)?

From what I've seen it interworks with the 10 and the 35.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 09, 2018, 01:52:12 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 09, 2018, 01:42:21 PM
From what I've seen it interworks with the 10 and the 35.

Daytime workings are

77/6
89/35/10
10A

Morning/Evening journeys may be

35/77
6/10A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 09, 2018, 06:08:48 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 09, 2018, 01:52:12 PM
Daytime workings are

77/6
89/35/10
10A

Morning/Evening journeys may be

35/77
6/10A
Is the this daytime Monday-Saturday or Sunday only and thanks @Dom ,@PB2938,@Westy and @Sh4318 for your help does the 31/32 still interwork
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 09, 2018, 07:13:57 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 09, 2018, 06:08:48 PM
Is the this daytime Monday-Saturday or Sunday only and thanks @Dom ,@PB2938,@Westy and @Sh4318 for your help does the 31/32 still interwork


This is Sunday I meant some morning/Evenings may differ to daytime workings.

EG a 77 board doing late night 10s.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 14, 2018, 06:39:17 PM
so I've seen 2125,2129,2130 in new west midland bus livery is there more or is that all in service until more get painted correct me if more have been painted
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on September 14, 2018, 07:49:30 PM
Does anyone know what happened to the 1930 11A from Bradford Place? I've been waiting at the stop for around 45 minutes now and nothing's turned up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 14, 2018, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 14, 2018, 06:39:17 PM
so I've seen 2125,2129,2130 in new west midland bus livery is there more or is that all in service until more get painted correct me if more have been painted

2125 is in paint.

All of 2124-2132 should be in WM bus livery but it'll take time. There's also at least 3 diamond in WM bus livery so they're getting there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 14, 2018, 10:33:19 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 14, 2018, 10:23:49 PM
2125 is in paint.

All of 2124-2132 should be in WM bus livery but it'll take time. There's also at least 3 diamond in WM bus livery so they're getting there.
Is it?
It was out in service in the WM bus livery on the 10A on September 1st.
Tony's latest post dated 03/09 in the repaint and retrims thread shows 2125 as done and 2124 plus 2129 in for repaint.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 14, 2018, 10:34:30 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 14, 2018, 10:23:49 PM
2125 is in paint.

All of 2124-2132 should be in WM bus livery but it'll take time. There's also at least 3 diamond in WM bus livery so they're getting there.
I suspect 2125 is in paint for branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 14, 2018, 10:39:30 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 14, 2018, 10:34:30 PM
I suspect 2125 is in paint for branding
The branding isn't painted on they're vinyls.
They don't go into paint to receive branding.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 14, 2018, 11:03:43 PM
Quote from: 2206 on September 14, 2018, 10:39:30 PM
The branding isn't painted on they're vinyls.
They don't go into paint to receive branding.
Sorry well i don't know what it's in for then it's just a suggestion
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 14, 2018, 11:29:03 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on September 14, 2018, 07:49:30 PM
Does anyone know what happened to the 1930 11A from Bradford Place? I've been waiting at the stop for around 45 minutes now and nothing's turned up.

If it's anything like the afternoon peak service, you have my symphapy.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on September 15, 2018, 08:36:25 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 14, 2018, 11:29:03 PM
If it's anything like the afternoon peak service, you have my symphapy.

I'm not sure if there's any truth to it, but I got talking to a woman at the stand in Walsall and she'd been waiting since before 7, so apparently the 1900 departure hadn't turned up either. I did see an 11A arrive at the station, but it then left out of service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 17, 2018, 10:49:46 AM
2112 2117 2118 have gained wm bus logos.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on September 17, 2018, 12:21:47 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 17, 2018, 10:49:46 AM
2112 2117 2118 have gained wm bus logos.

2113 has also got them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 17, 2018, 08:44:06 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 17, 2018, 12:21:47 PM
2113 has also got them.

And 2119 "think entire batch have them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 17, 2018, 10:18:36 PM
How come the fleetnames have been added before the repaint to the WM Bus livery?


They didn't do that when changing from 'Travel West Midlands' to 'National Express West Midlands' !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on September 17, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 17, 2018, 10:18:36 PM
How come the fleetnames have been added before the repaint to the WM Bus livery?

They didn't do that when changing from 'Travel West Midlands' to 'National Express West Midlands' !
There's actually quite a few photographs on the main site of TWM liveried buses carrying the NXWM logo. The "new" logos certainly did crop up on the TWM liveried vehicles when that god-awful green frequency branding plagued the fleet!

Lots of photos on the main site of the toothpaste E400s with the new logos; 4698 & 4732, for instance. The example I referenced above is demonstrated on a few photos of 4167.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on September 18, 2018, 01:46:38 AM
Quote from: CL on September 17, 2018, 10:53:44 PM
There's actually quite a few photographs on the main site of TWM liveried buses carrying the NXWM logo. The "new" logos certainly did crop up on the TWM liveried vehicles when that god-awful green frequency branding plagued the fleet!

Lots of photos on the main site of the toothpaste E400s with the new logos; 4698 & 4732, for instance. The example I referenced above is demonstrated on a few photos of 4167.

You also had the case of some buses having NXWM livery, but with the older TWM logo. I recall seeing it on some Omnilinks and Presidents at the time, although there could be others.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on September 18, 2018, 04:51:09 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 17, 2018, 10:18:36 PM
How come the fleetnames have been added before the repaint to the WM Bus livery?


They didn't do that when changing from 'Travel West Midlands' to 'National Express West Midlands' !

I just imagine it is an interim thing before they get repainted
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 18, 2018, 10:00:11 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 17, 2018, 10:18:36 PM
How come the fleetnames have been added before the repaint to the WM Bus livery?


They didn't do that when changing from 'Travel West Midlands' to 'National Express West Midlands' !


The NXWM logos wasn't applied to 2013 around 5 years after being named NXWM. I remember some BC Tridents with awful green branding in TWM livery gained NXWM logos.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 18, 2018, 05:30:43 PM
Something you dont hear that often nowadays!

Heard on the 32 this morning.

'Anyone got change for a fiver?'

What is the percentage of cash fares against passes / Swift thesedays?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 18, 2018, 07:47:59 PM
This was an interesting sight in West Bromwich a couple of days ago
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/43979113114/in/feed

(Not my photo)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 18, 2018, 07:51:45 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 17, 2018, 10:49:46 AM
2112 2117 2118 have gained wm bus logos.
So has WB 816
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/44696603241/in/dateposted/

Once again credit to Nathan Carter James
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 18, 2018, 07:52:26 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 18, 2018, 07:47:59 PM
This was an interesting sight in West Bromwich a couple of days ago
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90949252@N04/43979113114/in/feed

(Not my photo)

Eclipse Mark 1 do appear on the 4's fairly regulary.

Are you refering to the fact its an Eclipse Mark 2 vehicle on the 4's?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 18, 2018, 08:13:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 18, 2018, 07:52:26 PM
Eclipse Mark 1 do appear on the 4's fairly regulary.

Are you refering to the fact its an Eclipse Mark 2 vehicle on the 4's?
Yes it's rare to see it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 20, 2018, 06:43:11 PM
I'm not sure where to put this it's a photo from Walsal garage of 4153 showing a bus next it brutally disinter grated does anyone know why or what the fleet number is
Here's the link the picture is on 19th may 2018
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4153.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 20, 2018, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 20, 2018, 06:43:11 PM
I'm not sure where to put this it's a photo from Walsal garage of 4153 showing a bus next it brutally disinter grated does anyone know why or what the fleet number is
Here's the link the picture is on 19th may 2018
http://www.wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4153.html
The bus next to it is ex Yardley Wood 4391.
It went under a low bidge in Bournville Birmingham in December 2017.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-42435613
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 20, 2018, 06:50:50 PM
Quote from: 2206 on September 20, 2018, 06:46:22 PM
The bus next to it is ex Yardley Wood 4391.
It went under a low bidge in Bournville Birmingham in December 2017.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-42435613
Ok thanks for that is it withdrawn then or are NX building it up again the front looks like it's been took of aswell
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on September 20, 2018, 07:08:51 PM
The front end went into 4601
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 20, 2018, 07:13:23 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on September 20, 2018, 07:08:51 PM
The front end went into 4601
I did see a picture of 4601 with its front end off so I think 4391 is withdrawn then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 20, 2018, 07:15:30 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 20, 2018, 07:13:23 PM
I did see a picture of 4601 with its front end off so I think 4391 is withdrawn then

4391 is now minced up in a scrapyard. I spend ages on the main website trying to put as much information on as possible so easy enough to check
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on September 27, 2018, 07:34:00 PM
I really beg to differ that Tridents are noteworthy on the 51. The spreadsheet agrees.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2018, 07:34:58 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 27, 2018, 07:34:00 PM
I really beg to differ that Tridents are noteworthy on the 51.
Ones that aren't Crimson and without traps are noteworthy on the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on September 27, 2018, 07:37:14 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 27, 2018, 07:34:58 PM
Ones that aren't Crimson and without traps are noteworthy on the 51.

A trident is a trident at the end of the day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 27, 2018, 08:03:30 PM
I think that the 34-39 branded buses will get debranded soon now the 34/36 interwork with enviro 200s on the and not a lot of scania well scanias are to big around alumwell so I think they will get debranded by the end of this year
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 27, 2018, 08:48:52 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 27, 2018, 08:03:30 PM
I think that the 34-39 branded buses will get debranded soon now the 34/36 interwork with enviro 200s on the and not a lot of scania well scanias are to big around alumwell so I think they will get debranded by the end of this year

They've only just been branded!

Why debrand that soon?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 27, 2018, 08:49:08 PM
Quote from: Dom on September 27, 2018, 07:37:14 PM
A trident is a trident at the end of the day.

Whilst the trapped Transbus Tridents (4594-96 and 4606-09) are common on Birmingham routes, I only post Dennis Tridents or un-trapped Tranbus Tridents as "noteworthy"...You're welcome to your opinion though, as am I welcome to mine.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2018, 09:03:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 27, 2018, 08:48:52 PM
They've only just been branded!

Why debrand that soon?
Rebrand them for the 11/13 or 29? I agree they've only just been branded and look really smart in purple.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 27, 2018, 09:04:28 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 27, 2018, 08:48:52 PM
They've only just been branded!

Why debrand that soon?


There are 13 34 boards
6 are E200
7 are scania
As there are 7 branded scania 1881-1882 1884-1888 a usual good day will be fully scania branded and 6 E200.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2018, 09:06:21 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 27, 2018, 09:04:28 PM

There are 13 34 boards
6 are E200
7 are scania
As there are 7 branded scania 1881-1882 1884-1888 a usual good day will be fully scania and 6 E200.
1883 will probably be branded once it's Crimsoned, it would be weird being left out without branding.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 27, 2018, 09:07:52 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 27, 2018, 09:06:21 PM
1883 will probably be branded once it's Crimsoned, it would be weird being left out without branding.

Same as 1851 being the odd one out previously a 4 branded vechile.

And 1862 crimsoned not branded yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2018, 09:15:41 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 27, 2018, 09:07:52 PM
Same as 1851 being the odd one out previously a 4 branded vechile.

And 1862 crimsoned not branded yet.
Correct, I completely forgot about those two.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 27, 2018, 09:31:04 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 27, 2018, 09:03:14 PM
Rebrand them for the 11/13 or 29? I agree they've only just been branded and look really smart in purple.

11 / 11a Walsall to Dudley - Every 10 mins Monday to Saturday daytime!

Please dont tempt me into engaging sarcasm mode.

You wouldnt like it when Im sarcastic!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on September 28, 2018, 09:35:55 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 27, 2018, 08:03:30 PM
I think that the 34-39 branded buses will get debranded soon now the 34/36 interwork with enviro 200s on the and not a lot of scania well scanias are to big around alumwell so I think they will get debranded by the end of this year

Anyone confirm what the interworking is on the Darlastons at the moment? It does seem to me that the 36/39 interwork using the E200s and the Scanias stay on the 34
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 28, 2018, 10:19:03 AM
Quote from: Kevin on September 28, 2018, 09:35:55 AM
Anyone confirm what the interworking is on the Darlastons at the moment? It does seem to me that the 36/39 interwork using the E200s and the Scanias stay on the 34

Basic daytime working is 39/36 and 34 by itself.

But all 6 E200 boards have 36 on and 34 journeys. One board does 34 lates booked to use E200 as it has 36 on in daytime.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 28, 2018, 07:44:42 PM
1896 has a very bright display saw it today on the 29,overheard this women say to the driver I can see this display cause it's nice and bright unlike the others,but it is certainly the brightest display I've ever seen probably some brighter than that in Birmingham but I haven't been to Birmingham ever so could be brighter displays there or anywhere else
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 28, 2018, 07:47:43 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 28, 2018, 07:44:42 PM
1896 has a very bright display saw it today on the 29,overheard this women say to the driver I can see this display cause it's nice and bright unlike the others,but it is certainly the brightest display I've ever seen probably some brighter than that in Birmingham but I haven't been to Birmingham ever so could be brighter displays there or anywhere else
1926 and 1929 at Perry Barr have very bright displays, really easy to notice them coming.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 28, 2018, 07:52:41 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 28, 2018, 07:44:42 PM
1896 has a very bright display saw it today on the 29,overheard this women say to the driver I can see this display cause it's nice and bright unlike the others,but it is certainly the brightest display I've ever seen probably some brighter than that in Birmingham but I haven't been to Birmingham ever so could be brighter displays there or anywhere else
That doesn't make any sense to me at all?
You also say you've never been to Birmingham so how would you know that?
Most buses from Birmingham Garages that i've seen have had bright and clear displays that are easily readable.
The only exception i've Noticedx was a E200 MMC in the YW 6 with a rather dim destination display.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 28, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
Quote from: 2206 on September 28, 2018, 07:52:41 PM
That doesn't make any sense to me at all.
You also say you've never been to Birmingham so how would you know that?
Most buses from Birmingham Garages that i've seen have had bright and clear displays that are easily readable.
The only exception i've Noticedx was a E200 MMC in the YW 6 with a rather dim destination display.

All LEDs have two settings, Day & night settings which are supposed to be automatic.

They are bright on day setting, and much dimmer on night setting. If one is stuck on the night setting during the day then it looks very poor.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 28, 2018, 07:56:42 PM
Quote from: 2206 on September 28, 2018, 07:52:41 PM
That doesn't make any sense to me at all?
You also say you've never been to Birmingham so how would you know that?
Most buses from Birmingham Garages that i've seen have had bright and clear displays that are easily readable.
The only exception i've Noticedx was a E200 MMC in the YW 6 with a rather dim destination display.
You say you don't understand.what I'm stating is I haven't been to Birmingham in my life so I haven't seen if they have bright display also I've seen I dim platinum display on the WN 529
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 02, 2018, 10:13:45 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 02, 2018, 09:18:14 PM
Scania omnilink on the WA8/89 today couldn't get fleet number as on a coach back to blakenall

There were a few OmniLinks on 8 & 89 today. You will see them on these routes regularly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 02, 2018, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 02, 2018, 10:13:45 PM
There were a few OmniLinks on 8 & 89 today. You will see them on these routes regularly.
I was just going from the spreadsheet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 02, 2018, 10:51:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
All LEDs have two settings, Day & night settings which are supposed to be automatic.

They are bright on day setting, and much dimmer on night setting. If one is stuck on the night setting during the day then it looks very poor.

Think I saw a Diamond like that the other day!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 02, 2018, 10:54:29 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 02, 2018, 10:51:18 PM
Think I saw a Diamond like that the other day!
Was it 20737 by any chance
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 03, 2018, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 02, 2018, 10:54:29 PM
Was it 20737 by any chance

Pass.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 03, 2018, 05:04:17 PM
2129 Wmb liveried on the 11/11a.

(Not sure what you would class that as?)

Edit : Someone flagged it as a 'Noteworthy Working' later!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 03, 2018, 10:00:48 PM
Do WA do a 529 journey in the morning because I saw this

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42207416@N07/44233194704/in/photostream/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 03, 2018, 10:01:13 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 03, 2018, 05:04:17 PM
2129 Wmb liveried on the 11/11a.

(Not sure what you would class that as?)

Edit : Someone flagged it as a 'Noteworthy Working' later!

All WM bus liveried off route are noteworthy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 03, 2018, 10:03:57 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 03, 2018, 10:00:48 PM
Do WA do a 529 journey in the morning because I saw this

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42207416@N07/44233194704/in/photostream/
The destination display has just been set for the photo.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 03, 2018, 10:04:55 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 27, 2018, 09:31:04 PM
11 / 11a Walsall to Dudley - Every 10 mins Monday to Saturday daytime!

Please dont tempt me into engaging sarcasm mode.

You wouldnt like it when Im sarcastic!

Between 2009 and 2011 service 311/313 ran quite well reliable there was an extra bus in the system.

01hr50 round trip daytime.
02hr peak
If was late could always catch up.
Then to save a bus journey time cut down to 43 mins 7 mins standing and now constantly late.

01h40 daytime
01h50 peak
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 03, 2018, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2018, 10:03:57 PM
The destination display has just been set for the photo.
Thanks @2206
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 03, 2018, 10:31:23 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 03, 2018, 10:00:48 PM
Do WA do a 529 journey in the morning because I saw this

https://www.flickr.com/photos/42207416@N07/44233194704/in/photostream/

Someone's answered the question on that Flickr post anyway, but according to previous posts from the Wolverhampton open day of a few years ago, it appears certain depots will have displays for certain other depot routes for 'emergency' use, so Walsall should have 529, plus I guess Wolves will have 89 in return(does that mean Wolves has Walsall 8 displays as well?).

Does that mean Wb should have the Walsall 4 group on their displays too?

Maybe another discussion?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 03, 2018, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 03, 2018, 10:31:23 PM
Someone's answered the question on that Flickr post anyway, but according to previous posts from the Wolverhampton open day of a few years ago, it appears certain depots will have displays for certain other depot routes for 'emergency' use, so Walsall should have 529, plus I guess Wolves will have 89 in return(does that mean Wolves has Walsall 8 displays as well?).

Does that mean Wb should have the Walsall 4 group on their displays too?

Maybe another discussion?
I asked that on Flickr before here
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 03, 2018, 10:34:42 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 03, 2018, 10:31:23 PM
Someone's answered the question on that Flickr post anyway, but according to previous posts from the Wolverhampton open day of a few years ago, it appears certain depots will have displays for certain other depot routes for 'emergency' use, so Walsall should have 529, plus I guess Wolves will have 89 in return(does that mean Wolves has Walsall 8 displays as well?).

Does that mean Wb should have the Walsall 4 group on their displays too?

Maybe another discussion?
Quote from: Dom on September 29, 2018, 01:23:52 PM
BC PB and BY share a database as well.
PN and WB did but don't anymore following the September 2nd changes.
YW and AG buses can display route numbers from both garages.
It was mentioned that BY/PB/BC buses can display each other's route numbers as well  and also that PN and WB used to be the same as well, but they are both now seperate.
In the past i've seen drivers on the AG 11 put up the YW 2 and 3 on the displays.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on October 04, 2018, 11:06:05 AM
While we're on the topic of blinds, 2113 was still displaying 301 yesterday. Surely all of the old numbers should have been removed by now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 04, 2018, 06:34:52 PM
Not sure if this is noteworthy but 2113/2115/2119 was on the 29 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 04, 2018, 06:55:01 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on October 04, 2018, 11:06:05 AM
While we're on the topic of blinds, 2113 was still displaying 301 yesterday. Surely all of the old numbers should have been removed by now?

Thats a rare fail for NX in Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on October 04, 2018, 07:46:48 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 04, 2018, 06:55:01 PM
Thats a rare fail for NX in Walsall.

Perhaps the driver didn't like the new numbers and was rebelling lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 05, 2018, 07:01:23 PM
What does the school services 700 and 701 interwork with

Also if you want NX 29 until the 14th October if departs from stand H
And WA 8/89 depart from stand j
And WN 529 departs from stand L
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 05, 2018, 08:49:55 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 05, 2018, 07:01:23 PM
What does the school services 700 and 701 interwork with

Also if you want NX 29 until the 14th October if departs from stand H
And WA 8/89 depart from stand j
And WN 529 departs from stand L
Both the AM & PM 700's are on 89 boards. There is a second bus in the morning (not sure on afternoon) that is standalone.

701 in the morning runs private from St Thomas Moore to Mossley and does a round trip on the 31. The afternoon one goes onto the 31 as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 05, 2018, 09:14:05 PM
Thanks for that @Nathan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 09, 2018, 07:56:43 PM
Re 'new' service 3.

Was anyone aware of 'reliability problems', as mentioned on the web page?

Dont think its been flagged on here.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 09, 2018, 08:08:50 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 09, 2018, 07:56:43 PM
Re 'new' service 3.

Was anyone aware of 'reliability problems', as mentioned on the web page?

Dont think its been flagged on here.
On arrivas web
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on October 09, 2018, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 09, 2018, 07:56:43 PM
Re 'new' service 3.

Was anyone aware of 'reliability problems', as mentioned on the web page?

Dont think its been flagged on here.

I think that's just an excuse to stop going as far as Brownhills West. Also I've passed the 3A several times at night and it's been empty so I'm surprised they have taken it on.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 09, 2018, 08:58:36 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 09, 2018, 07:56:43 PM
Re 'new' service 3.

Was anyone aware of 'reliability problems', as mentioned on the web page?

Dont think its been flagged on here.

Likely just potential reliability problems when they inevitably interwork it with something else
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 09, 2018, 09:40:12 PM
Do you think a version of the 8a should have been reintroduced going to Bloxwich, but diverting via Little Bloxwich(Abbotts  Street), covering the 19, the Blakenall Church loop, then Ingram Road & Field Road/The Pinfold, covering the 29?

Or perhaps the normal 8 tendered instead?

How many people use Pelsall Road in Brownhills evening & Sundays?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident4590 on October 10, 2018, 05:24:13 PM
1761 looks like it's had it's Windows smashed
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 11, 2018, 09:13:29 PM
Does the 7S interwork with the 89 on an afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 11, 2018, 09:54:39 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 11, 2018, 09:13:29 PM
Does the 7S interwork with the 89 on an afternoon

No.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 12, 2018, 06:35:29 PM
Do you know what it interwork with then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 12, 2018, 09:57:59 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 12, 2018, 06:35:29 PM
Do you know what it interwork with then

The 7S interworks with the 41 in the afternoon. It's the 700 that interworks with the 89 in the afternoon (doing one round trip to Wolverhampton and back after the school route).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 12, 2018, 10:08:49 PM
Thank you @Michael Bevan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 13, 2018, 04:23:27 PM
4609 - 51
4870 - X51/997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 17, 2018, 06:03:06 PM
Is 4155 now based at Walsall I seen it a lot of times of the weeks currently on the 29 to bloxwich
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 17, 2018, 06:51:42 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 17, 2018, 06:03:06 PM
Is 4155 now based at Walsall I seen it a lot of times of the weeks currently on the 29 to bloxwich

That swapped with 1886 earlier. 4155 did the 159C then had to head to Walsall Bus Station to swap with a compliant vehicle to head into Birmingham. It was swapped with 1886 then that went into Birmingham to do the afternoon Boney Hay 937.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 17, 2018, 07:01:12 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 17, 2018, 06:51:42 PM
That swapped with 1886 earlier. 4155 did the 159C then had to head to Walsall Bus Station to swap with a compliant vehicle to head into Birmingham. It was swapped with 1886 then that went into Birmingham to do the afternoon Boney Hay 937.
Thanks for the information @Michael Bevan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 19, 2018, 07:17:46 PM
Just thought when the new services 3 (evenings and Sunday's only) wouldn't it make sense having the 3 interworking with 10 and the 19 (Sunday service only) to interwork with the 29
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Adam 404 on October 19, 2018, 07:36:09 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 19, 2018, 07:17:46 PM
Just thought when the new services 3 (evenings and Sunday's only) wouldn't it make sense having the 3 interworking with 10 and the 19 (Sunday service only) to interwork with the 29
That would not be logical @I love Walsall buses . The 19 and 29 operate at a different frequency so you would result in buses being parked up and the nature of the 3 and 10's timetable doesn't owe itself to interworking. Interworking is applied to routes to improve vehicle usage efficiency where there is significant down time at the end of journeys or if there is a reliability problem that can be compensated by bolting it onto another service that then spreads the additional assets required to reduce cost.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 19, 2018, 08:32:21 PM
Quote from: Adam 404 on October 19, 2018, 07:36:09 PM
That would not be logical @I love Walsall buses . The 19 and 29 operate at a different frequency so you would result in buses being parked up and the nature of the 3 and 10's timetable doesn't owe itself to interworking. Interworking is applied to routes to improve vehicle usage efficiency where there is significant down time at the end of journeys or if there is a reliability problem that can be compensated by bolting it onto another service that then spreads the additional assets required to reduce cost.
So that's why on the bus radio said a bus on the 29 To go on 4M or have I got the complete wrong end of the stick and thanks for the info aswell @Adam 404
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on October 19, 2018, 08:33:13 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 19, 2018, 08:32:21 PM
So that's why on the bus radio said a bus on the 29 To go on 4M or have I got the complete wrong end of the stick and thanks for the info aswell @Adam 404

Completely wrong end of the stick.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 19, 2018, 08:34:25 PM
Quote from: Dom on October 19, 2018, 08:33:13 PM
Completely wrong end of the stick.
Ok I'm not saying any more and embarrass myself saying things which are not correct
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 20, 2018, 01:12:31 PM
4856, 4862 and 4863 are all out on the X51 and 997 today. Unusual for a Saturday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2018, 02:18:55 PM
On behalf of my sister, was there a problem with the vehicle operating the 89 that was supposed to depart  Bloxwich at 2132 towards Wolves yesterday, as she was there in good time but the app was saying 24 mins away?

Eventually she had to book a taxi, which got her into Wednesfield about 2 mins to ten!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on October 20, 2018, 06:01:52 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 20, 2018, 02:18:55 PM
On behalf of my sister, was there a problem with the vehicle operating the 89 that was supposed to depart  Bloxwich at 2132 towards Wolves yesterday, as she was there in good time but the app was saying 24 mins away?

Eventually she had to book a taxi, which got her into Wednesfield about 2 mins to ten!
why don't you moan on nx Facebook page like you usually do
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2018, 08:55:45 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on October 20, 2018, 06:01:52 PM
why don't you moan on nx Facebook page like you usually do

Why don't you mind your own business if you can't offer a constructive answer!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2018, 09:09:42 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 20, 2018, 02:18:55 PM
On behalf of my sister, was there a problem with the vehicle operating the 89 that was supposed to depart  Bloxwich at 2132 towards Wolves yesterday, as she was there in good time but the app was saying 24 mins away?

Eventually she had to book a taxi, which got her into Wednesfield about 2 mins to ten!

The app was correct. The bus did runs but was late, I don't know why, but at least via the app NX had informed you of its lateness
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2018, 11:30:01 PM
Thank you Tony.

At least someone can give a constructive answer, even though my sister was nearly late for work & it's only a hourly service!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on October 20, 2018, 11:32:15 PM
1773 was in Woodside today (Dudley ) seen Turning left towards merry hill from Stourbridge road anyone know why
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 27, 2018, 05:02:18 PM
4609 is on the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on October 27, 2018, 05:08:13 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 27, 2018, 05:02:18 PM
4609 is on the 51.

So are 4607 and 4608
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 27, 2018, 09:27:02 PM
Quote from: John on October 27, 2018, 05:08:13 PM
So are 4607 and 4608

Nice selection on the 10/10A today

6722
6723
6753
6754
6757
4860
4866
4867
4869 later replaced by 4858 (51 branded)

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 27, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
Will they just be 1 bus on the NEW 3 to brownhills or will there be 2
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 28, 2018, 12:07:08 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 27, 2018, 11:22:01 PM
Will they just be 1 bus on the NEW 3 to brownhills or will there be 2


Looking at the timetable on the NX site suggests the round trip would be done comfortably within an hour & no interworking, but I bow to other posters superior knowledge on these matters.

Edit : Looks the same for the 19 too.

Under what circumstances would routes/vehicles interwork ?

How much 'waiting time' would NX allow a vehicle at a terminus before interworking a route?


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 28, 2018, 08:41:06 PM
Anyone know what was on the 19 and 3 I'm guessing scanias
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on October 28, 2018, 08:46:39 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 28, 2018, 08:41:06 PM
Anyone know what was on the 19 and 3 I'm guessing scanias

Saw pictures on Facebook that 858 was on the 19, and 1859 was on the 3.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 28, 2018, 09:07:12 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 28, 2018, 08:41:06 PM
Anyone know what was on the 19 and 3 I'm guessing scanias

The 19 was 858 and the 3 is 1859.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 28, 2018, 11:23:44 PM
Thanks for the information @P419 EJW and @Nathan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 29, 2018, 06:51:25 PM
Ran into my friend from work's sister driving the 11/11a this morning.

It took her 3 attempts to get a working bus this morning, she said, due to the temperatures!

I was on the 709, but as usual the 659 was late, as both journeys were chasing each others tails between Walsall & Wood Green.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 02, 2018, 03:14:41 PM
1772 out on the 29 today after a long time out of service looking immaculate.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 02, 2018, 04:35:27 PM
i have just been on it to bloxwich (16:00 from walsall) comfy seats nice sound paintwork really stands out aswell especially the back
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WestMidlandsTravels on November 03, 2018, 03:40:13 PM
Does anyone know where 1772 is? Apparently it was on the 29. But a mate was trying to wait for it now it's disappeared.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 03, 2018, 03:56:30 PM
Quote from: WestMidlandsTravels on November 03, 2018, 03:40:13 PM
Does anyone know where 1772 is? Apparently it was on the 29. But a mate was trying to wait for it now it's disappeared.

You're a day late!

It was yesterday it was mentioned as being on the 29.
It hasn't been out today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WestMidlandsTravels on November 03, 2018, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 03, 2018, 03:56:30 PM
You're a day late!

It was yesterday it was mentioned as being on the 29.
It hasn't been out today

Oh okay, apologies.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 04, 2018, 08:35:14 AM
Nothing noteworthy about Crimson Tridents on the 51 whatever day it is. I saw a LED Trident on there too yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 04, 2018, 09:08:32 AM
Quote from: John on November 04, 2018, 08:35:14 AM
Nothing noteworthy about Crimson Tridents on the 51 whatever day it is. I saw a LED Trident on there too yesterday

It used to be @John, as Walsall used to keep Trident's off the 51's and non Platinum vehicles off the City (X51/997(E)/Streetly (934/935/936/937/937A) on a Saturday and Sunday. But since the 10/A has been allocated Platinum's, more Trident's have crept onto the 51 and more non Platinum's are ending up on City and Streetly on a Saturday...It's still "noteworthy" for a Sunday though, as Trident's aren't meant to be out, and I don't think a non Platinum vehicle has ever been out on one of WA's Platinum routes since they got them all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 04, 2018, 12:58:24 PM
Quote from: John on November 04, 2018, 08:35:14 AM
Nothing noteworthy about Crimson Tridents on the 51 whatever day it is. I saw a LED Trident on there too yesterday
They are usual to be honest, I don't get the whole fuss about it. There was four on it yesterday: 4596, 4607, 4608 and 4609.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 04, 2018, 07:08:32 PM
Anyone know if the 29 is running as the last two journeys haven't turned up

EDIT:it is now running missed out 3 full journeys with a Volvo B7RLE running
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 05, 2018, 08:10:59 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 05, 2018, 04:15:58 PM
6741 on WA 51.

@P419 EJW that was on an X51 board which is booked to do the 15:47 51 from Walsall to Birmingham. The King Edwards school run has now changed to a 51 journey from today. So the morning and afternoon trips both operate as 51. This means there's another 51 board that does an X51 at 07:25 from Walsall and the peak X51 board now does the 788 and 15:47 51 into Birmingham. The King Edwards journey is now on the 07:15 51 from Walsall and goes onto the 16:45 51 from Birmingham in the afternoon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on November 05, 2018, 08:21:44 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 05, 2018, 08:10:59 PM
@P419 EJW that was on an X51 board which is booked to do the 15:47 51 from Walsall to Birmingham. The King Edwards school run has now changed to a 51 journey from today. So the morning and afternoon trips both operate as 51. This means there's another 51 board that does an X51 at 07:25 from Walsall and the peak X51 board now does the 788 and 15:47 51 into Birmingham. The King Edwards journey is now on the 07:15 51 from Walsall and goes onto the 16:45 51 from Birmingham in the afternoon.

I saw a 51 today with a Platinum bus. It was going from Walsall, would have been about half 3. & somebody mentioned the 10A, it's quite a long journey at peak times it would be nice for it to be Platinum full-time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 05, 2018, 08:24:23 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on November 05, 2018, 08:21:44 PM
I saw a 51 today with a Platinum bus. It was going from Walsall, would have been about half 3. & somebody mentioned the 10A, it's quite a long journey at peak times it would be nice for it to be Platinum full-time.

@l.murphy123 That was probably 6741 on the 788. It arrived into Walsall at around 15:30. There were no Platinum's on the 51 today from what I saw when I was in Walsall earlier.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on November 06, 2018, 05:56:12 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 05, 2018, 08:24:23 PM
@l.murphy123 That was probably 6741 on the 788. It arrived into Walsall at around 15:30. There were no Platinum's on the 51 today from what I saw when I was in Walsall earlier.
seen that platinum in perry barr around 18:00
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 06, 2018, 08:55:11 PM
Quote from: Nxwm on November 06, 2018, 05:56:12 AM
seen that platinum in perry barr around 18:00

788 school pm. And 1547 51 from Walsall is book as platinum. It would turn into an X51 From Birmingham 1643 and continue on. X51/934/X51 then 937A all evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 06, 2018, 09:15:39 PM
The little darlings are bored near me, so they decided to throw a brick at the Plattie doing the first Brum to Cannock tonight from the railway bridge on Green Lane in Leamore!

Thank god for safety glass.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 06, 2018, 09:18:57 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 06, 2018, 09:15:39 PM
The little darlings are bored near me, so they decided to throw a brick at the Plattie doing the first Brum to Cannock tonight from the railway bridge on Green Lane in Leamore!

Thank god for safety glass.
Guessing it ran to bloxwich and went back to garage or did it carry on to Cannock
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 06, 2018, 09:22:41 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 06, 2018, 09:18:57 PM
Guessing it ran to bloxwich and went back to garage or did it carry on to Cannock

It won't be going anywhere if a window was broken
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on November 06, 2018, 09:24:13 PM
I'm hearing 952 is to transfer to walsall garage any truth
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2018, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 06, 2018, 09:15:39 PM

Thank god for safety glass.

No thanks to safety glass bricks will go straight through that leaving thousands of little  cubes that can fly into people's eyes.

NXWM  put a very strong plastic coating on the inside of all glass which is what protects people from these morons
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 06, 2018, 10:17:14 PM
Speaking of thus the 29 has had a lot if smashed windows overt the last couple of months I actually think it's disgusting behaviour abs need to be tough a lesson
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 07, 2018, 06:41:54 AM
Quote from: Westy on November 06, 2018, 09:15:39 PM
The little darlings are bored near me, so they decided to throw a brick at the Plattie doing the first Brum to Cannock tonight from the railway bridge on Green Lane in Leamore!

Thank god for safety glass.

@Westy Sounds like that board had a very unlucky run...Apparently the vehicle that was on it broke down in Bloxwich after doing the 868 school. I think 6727 replaced it if I remember correctly, as I saw that pass through Walsall on a Cannock run.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 07, 2018, 01:12:29 PM
Quote from: Nxwm on November 06, 2018, 09:24:13 PM
I'm hearing 952 is to transfer to walsall garage any truth

Didnt the old 52 get run by Walsall at some point?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 07, 2018, 01:21:09 PM
Looks like the 659 11a from Walsall to Dudley didnt run this morning, as the 709 11 had its passengers as well as its own, plus some of the passengers who would normally catch the 719 11a  caught it as well, so we had a well full single decker with standing passengers all the way to Wednesbury Parkway, possibly the whole route.

But another 2 weeks or so, I'm transferring back to our Willenhall depot, to start a new role in our warehouse, so I'll be catching the 326 instead!

:) :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 07, 2018, 03:07:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 07, 2018, 01:12:29 PM
Didnt the old 52 get run by Walsall at some point?

Yes. About 15 years ago.

I heard the rumour last week and I do actually believe it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 07, 2018, 04:04:19 PM
Quote from: John on November 07, 2018, 03:07:14 PM
Yes. About 15 years ago.

I heard the rumour last week and I do actually believe it
I believe it too.
The 52 was at WA until 2007 (or 2008), transferred to Perry Barr around that time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on November 07, 2018, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: John on November 07, 2018, 03:07:14 PM
Yes. About 15 years ago.

I heard the rumour last week and I do actually believe it

Could the PB allocation be being shrunk in advance of any depot move.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 07, 2018, 04:57:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 07, 2018, 01:21:09 PM
Looks like the 659 11a from Walsall to Dudley didnt run this morning, as the 709 11 had its passengers as well as its own, plus some of the passengers who would normally catch the 719 11a  caught it as well, so we had a well full single decker with standing passengers all the way to Wednesbury Parkway, possibly the whole route.

But another 2 weeks or so, I'm transferring back to our Willenhall depot, to start a new role in our warehouse, so I'll be catching the 326 instead!

:) :)

Tonight, not much better.

According to one of my fellow passengers, he'd been at Parkway since 420 waiting for a Walsall bus.

One has turned up around 455!

Update : Someone got on at Wednesbury BS & gave a load of sarcasm involving Christmas to the driver!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on November 07, 2018, 05:51:44 PM
The 11/11A is prone to being late due to the traffic it in counters on route. Maybe due to the traffic an untimetabled E working happen to try and keep the route running. Bradford place could of had traffic issues. It's rush hour so delays do happen!

Last week there was roadworks at kford cross and commonside which caused the 15 to bunch up. I remember waiting for a wolves bound 15 and both the Wolves 15 and wall heath 15E turned up at the same time.

Face it with the congestion around many towns getting worse beyond ANY operators control, there will be lateness during the peak hours.

I know NX/Diamond tries its best to keep to timetable and provide PVR vehicles to help with gaps but with the traffic getting worse; delays will happen
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 07, 2018, 07:16:18 PM
Quote from: Nxwm on November 06, 2018, 09:24:13 PM
I'm hearing 952 is to transfer to walsall garage any truth

I've been told that the 952 will be transferring as of the 25th of November. Apparently drivers at Walsall are being asked to go onto the rota.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 07, 2018, 07:25:55 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 07, 2018, 07:16:18 PM
I've been told that the 952 will be transferring as of the 25th of November. Apparently drivers at Walsall are being asked to go onto the rota.
Will it be on its own rota? I wonder if some Omnilinks are going to move with the 952? As I don't think theres enough if the 952 will move, really can't see it going to Double Deckers, really doesn't require them at all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on November 07, 2018, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 07, 2018, 07:25:55 PM
Will it be on its own rota? I wonder if some Omnilinks are going to move with the 952? As I don't think theres enough if the 952 will move, really can't see it going to Double Deckers, really doesn't require them at all.

Maybe WA will get 6711-18 from PN to cover the 952?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on November 07, 2018, 07:46:19 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on November 07, 2018, 07:42:53 PM
Maybe WA will get 6711-18 from PN to cover the 952?
It wouldn't need 8 buses.
Maybe 6711 - 6712 could go to AG for the X12, so AG have enough. Then 6713 - 6718 to WA for the 952.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on November 07, 2018, 07:47:53 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 07, 2018, 07:46:19 PM
I wouldn't need 8 buses.
Maybe 6711 - 6712 could go to AG for the X12, so AG have enough. Then 6713 - 6718 to WA for the 952.

Yes I know it would not need 8 buses but WA are short of platinums to cover all their platinum routes!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 07, 2018, 10:37:29 PM
4870 was displaying think you 100 with the new destination display type it was in the 937 in brownhills at 08:05
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on November 07, 2018, 11:07:19 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 07, 2018, 07:16:18 PM
I've been told that the 952 will be transferring as of the 25th of November. Apparently drivers at Walsall are being asked to go onto the rota.
952 to Walsall garage, seriously ! ....... dead mileage anyone ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on November 07, 2018, 11:14:22 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on November 07, 2018, 11:07:19 PM
952 to Walsall garage, seriously ! ....... dead mileage anyone ?

I'm glad someone said it, although, there are plenty of interworking options... i.e. 51, 934-937, 997 (the X51 doesn't run late nights, so I left that out)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 08, 2018, 10:03:02 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 07, 2018, 11:14:22 PM
I'm glad someone said it, although, there are plenty of interworking options... i.e. 51, 934-937, 997 (the X51 doesn't run late nights, so I left that out)

Loads if strange garage allocations through the 00s.

52 at WA October 2001-October 2005
900 at WA October 2001-May 2002
258 at WN October 2000-May 2002

All down to Driver shortages on Birmingham side.
Service 11C passed to AG October 2005 with PB ganning Private hire from AG and 52 from WA.

As for dead mileage there's loads on 934/997 to from Pheasey so Perry beeches won't make much difference.

This transfer is temporary if its permanent I'm sure some interworking will take place.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 08, 2018, 10:06:24 AM
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Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on November 08, 2018, 11:08:45 AM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on November 07, 2018, 11:07:19 PM
952 to Walsall garage, seriously ! ....... dead mileage anyone ?

Can't be any worse than the 72 in that respect.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 08, 2018, 12:12:21 PM
4309 is back at Walsall on the 6 today. No idea if just a loan or a transfer
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 08, 2018, 04:11:39 PM
Loan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 08, 2018, 05:35:23 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on November 07, 2018, 07:42:53 PM
Maybe WA will get 6711-18 from PN to cover the 952?
That would be nice, but the 952 doesn't need Double Deckers, full size Single Deckers do the job fine. Also it's been told that apparently the 952 doesn't meet Platinum standards. But if 6711-6718 went to Walsall it could help on the Birmingham routes.

Will Walsall have enough Omnilinks for the 952 when it moves over?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 08, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
Saw the A51 in Walsall with 4605 after I had a nice chat with @Solo1 with the A smaller than the 51 with the new display also 1768 displaying #thankyou100 on the 70 also 4736 displaying #thankyou100
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on November 08, 2018, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 07, 2018, 10:37:29 PM
4870 was displaying think you 100 with the new destination display type it was in the 937 in brownhills at 08:05
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 08, 2018, 06:38:59 PM
Saw the A51 in Walsall with 4605 after I had a nice chat with @Solo1 with the A smaller than the 51 with the new display also 1768 displaying #thankyou100 on the 70 also 4736 displaying #thankyou100
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 08, 2018, 04:39:02 PM
The platinums have the new display also with #thankyou100 on the 529 think it might be on a of the platinums
Plenty of buses now are. Do you relay need to list every single one you see?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 08, 2018, 07:01:56 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 08, 2018, 06:41:10 PM
Plenty of buses now are. Do you relay need to list every single one you see?
I will not from now on then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 08, 2018, 07:17:24 PM
Must admit I havent seen one yet!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on November 08, 2018, 07:36:59 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 08, 2018, 05:35:23 PM
That would be nice, but the 952 doesn't need Double Deckers, full size Single Deckers do the job fine. Also it's been told that apparently the 952 doesn't meet Platinum standards. But if 6711-6718 went to Walsall it could help on the Birmingham routes.

Will Walsall have enough Omnilinks for the 952 when it moves over?

Platinum standards, in that in terms of profitability/ passenger numbers then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 08, 2018, 09:54:45 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on November 07, 2018, 11:07:19 PM
952 to Walsall garage, seriously ! ....... dead mileage anyone ?

Hardly a million miles between Walsall and Perry Beeches is it? Considering the dead mileage involved in other PB and WA routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on November 08, 2018, 10:28:51 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 08, 2018, 05:35:23 PMAlso it's been told that apparently the 952 doesn't meet Platinum standards.

What exactly does that mean? What are the standards?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on November 09, 2018, 08:56:30 AM
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 08, 2018, 10:28:51 PM
What exactly does that mean? What are the standards?

Could probably be better expressed as '952 doesn't meet threshold/ characteristics for Platinum to be considered'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 09, 2018, 09:29:47 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on November 09, 2018, 08:56:30 AM
Could probably be better expressed as '952 doesn't meet threshold/ characteristics for Platinum to be considered'

Make the 952 as platinum X52 same stops as X51.
Reroute some journeys on 28 as 28A to Perry Barr one stop keeping link Perry beeches - One stop just an idea.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on November 09, 2018, 10:32:38 AM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on November 09, 2018, 08:56:30 AM
Could probably be better expressed as '952 doesn't meet threshold/ characteristics for Platinum to be considered'

That's just rewording what he said. What are the characteristics then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on November 09, 2018, 03:46:27 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on November 09, 2018, 10:32:38 AM
That's just rewording what he said. What are the characteristics then?

I reworded it because it wasn't understood as written!     :o

The characteristics will be route profile, demand and revenue related I imagine; I'm a rail industry person rather than a bus practitioner, so I am relying on National Express (or other bus company) chums to provide the details!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 09, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
Red and white 54 reg Trident on the 937A tonight
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 09, 2018, 09:52:51 PM
Quote from: John on November 09, 2018, 09:29:00 PM
Red and white 54 reg Trident on the 937A tonight

I've been told it's 4598. Will do the 22:17 937A from Birmingham and 23:17 short 937A from Brownhills West to Kingstanding.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 09, 2018, 10:08:54 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 09, 2018, 09:52:51 PM
I've been told it's 4598. Will do the 22:17 937A from Birmingham and 23:17 short 937A from Brownhills West to Kingstanding.
And then back to garage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 11, 2018, 12:16:37 AM
Been a right mixed variety on the 51 today...

Along with a couple of the usual E40D's, 4604, 4605 and 1841 ended up on the 51 today. Also Platinum's 6721 and 6729 were put on the 51. I also heard 4599 was also apparently meant to be on the 51, but I believe one of the Platinum's swapped it before it got into service. 4604 was swapped with the other Platinum.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 13, 2018, 08:04:32 PM
Not sure where to put this, as there's no thread for generic publicity(unless its worth starting one in General Discussion, but as I was on a certain Wa route, this seemed the best place!), but I've spotted stop posters for the Nbus versions of the local tickets in Bradford Place(Walsall) & the Parkway stop(Dudley/Sandwell).

Aint these been available for a few months already?

How come its taken so long to publicise them?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 14, 2018, 09:44:30 PM
Not sure where to put this but this thread sounds ok I was in Walsall and an inspector in the main bus station was shouting at a driver to get the bus out as he was out of his cab and I never seen I person move a bus so quick. in my 11 years I never seen an inspector shout at a bus driver
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 15, 2018, 05:17:15 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 14, 2018, 09:44:30 PM
Not sure where to put this but this thread sounds ok I was in Walsall and an inspector in the main bus station was shouting at a driver to get the bus out as he was out of his cab and I never seen I person move a bus so quick. in my 11 years I never seen an inspector shout at a bus driver

Name wasnt Cyril Blake was it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on November 16, 2018, 10:30:13 PM
Quote from: WestMidlandsTravels on November 16, 2018, 05:54:47 PM
4607 on 936. Parked up at Bull Street.

Not "Noteworthy" in the week @WestMidlandsTravels...4594-96 and 4606-09 are regularly used in the week on WA's Birmingham routes. The journey you saw it actually tends to be a non Platinum quite often.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 18, 2018, 05:49:47 PM
So I tried to make a display with the 29 this is how it went
https://youtu.be/oYUGzfM5V-w
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 22, 2018, 06:42:53 PM
Has the 952 moved to Walsall yet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on November 22, 2018, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 22, 2018, 06:42:53 PM
Has the 952 moved to Walsall yet

Sunday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on November 22, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
Quote from: Nathan on November 22, 2018, 07:55:07 PM
Sunday.

Do we know if the allocation will change also?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 22, 2018, 08:13:38 PM
Are they likely to run 'placing' journeys on the 51 to get the vehicles over to the 952 route or is it going to be dead mileage to & from Walsall?

(An idea I had when I was coming back from Brum the other week, was perhaps Nx could take on the Walsall 74 & extend that route to Great Barr, similar to what happened with the 76 & 934, linking up with the existing 952 route!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 22, 2018, 08:22:06 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 22, 2018, 08:09:46 PM
Do we know if the allocation will change also?

No, will still be allocated OmniLinks. Wouldn't be surprised though if other buses made an appearance at times

Quote from: Westy on November 22, 2018, 08:13:38 PM
Are they likely to run 'placing' journeys on the 51 to get the vehicles over to the 952 route or is it going to be dead mileage to & from Walsall?

(An idea I had when I was coming back from Brum the other week, was perhaps Nx could take on the Walsall 74 & extend that route to Great Barr, similar to what happened with the 76 & 934, linking up with the existing 952 route!)

No there are no positioning journeys. All boards start at Hassop Road and finish there or at Perry Barr Station
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on November 23, 2018, 08:58:49 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 22, 2018, 08:13:38 PM
...
(An idea I had when I was coming back from Brum the other week, was perhaps Nx could take on the Walsall 74 & extend that route to Great Barr, similar to what happened with the 76 & 934, linking up with the existing 952 route!)

In the nicest way possible
No
Just. No
The 74 (old 374/378/whatever) was/is never anywhere near as busy as the 76 (376) was
It's just a local thing for local people, the 376 was a fairly well used inter-suburban service

Personally the Beeches estate would be better served by a service along Aldridge Road and the length of Thornbridge Avenue and up to the Scott Arms. But hell 30 years living in the area my opinion is just as an armchair enthusiast...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 24, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
@WestMidlandsTravels E400's aren't noteworthy on the 997 at all, they are used daily as there's never enough Platinums.

4870 was on the Streetly's today. Saw it on the 934 earlier.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on November 24, 2018, 06:07:31 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 24, 2018, 05:02:52 PM
@WestMidlandsTravels E400's aren't noteworthy on the 997 at all, they are used daily as there's never enough Platinums.

4870 was on the Streetly's today. Saw it on the 934 earlier.

Yet the 10A had at least 2 or 3 platinums on it, along with one on the A51, why not put E400s on those rather than on the 997?

Saying that, I did see a crimson E400 on the 10A too, but still.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on November 25, 2018, 05:27:39 PM
New Platinum routes coming but none in Walsall... the Platinum site has finally been updated.

9 - Birmingham to Stourbridge
11 & 12X - Coventry to Warwick University (the only Platinum not stemming from Birmingham other than the 529)
50 - Birmingham to Druids Heath
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on November 25, 2018, 05:30:34 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on November 25, 2018, 05:27:39 PM
New Platinum routes coming but none in Walsall... the Platinum site has finally been updated.

9 - Birmingham to Stourbridge
11 & 12X - Coventry to Warwick University (the only Platinum not stemming from Birmingham other than the 529)
50 - Birmingham to Druids Heath

I could have sworn that WA depot already had 40 Platinum's and will mostly likely get an allocation top up from PN. Plus the Platinum 529 serves Walsall. 75 new buses will only stretch so far...........
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 25, 2018, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on November 25, 2018, 05:27:39 PM
New Platinum routes coming but none in Walsall... the Platinum site has finally been updated.

9 - Birmingham to Stourbridge
11 & 12X - Coventry to Warwick University (the only Platinum not stemming from Birmingham other than the 529)
50 - Birmingham to Druids Heath
It's been updated but there's nothing about the X70 with Platinums 'coming soon' and the 23/24 aren't even on it. Yet the X21 is shown...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on November 25, 2018, 06:56:52 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 25, 2018, 06:54:42 PM
It's been updated but there's nothing about the X70 with Platinums 'coming soon' and the 23/24 aren't even on it. Yet the X21 is shown...
The 23/24/X70 have been added to the platinum network map at the top of the page, but not the list of routes bellow.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 25, 2018, 06:58:19 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 25, 2018, 06:56:52 PM
The 23/24/X70 have been added to the platinum network map at the top of the page, but not the list of routes bellow.
Correct, that's what I was talking about...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on November 25, 2018, 07:36:06 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 25, 2018, 06:56:52 PM
The 23/24/X70 have been added to the platinum network map at the top of the page, but not the list of routes bellow.

I didn't notice that. First time it's been updated though since the X12 launch.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 02, 2018, 02:53:59 PM
Has Sunday 31 & 32 gone back to Scanias, or was the one I saw in Bloxwich earlier just a one off?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 02, 2018, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 02, 2018, 02:53:59 PM
Has Sunday 31 & 32 gone back to Scanias, or was the one I saw in Bloxwich earlier just a one off?
Probaly a one off
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on December 05, 2018, 09:44:24 AM
Red/White Trident on the 51. Or maybe even the 952. See just now in Perry Barr but didn't see the route number
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 05, 2018, 10:06:32 AM
Quote from: John on December 05, 2018, 09:44:24 AM
Red/White Trident on the 51. Or maybe even the 952. See just now in Perry Barr but didn't see the route number

It's 4346 sent out as a change bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 08, 2018, 07:16:32 PM
4609 - 934 (Saw earlier in Pheasey).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 12, 2018, 04:44:48 PM
File this under ''Its a small world....".

One of the people in the warehouse Im now working in, used to work at Nx Walsall!

(Apparantly she's a relative by marriage to the other driver Ive mentioned in the past!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on December 13, 2018, 07:43:58 AM
What's the rules about using the "dropping off only" blind? Is it meant to be just when having too much time in city centre? Because my sister is saying she's seen it a bit in Great Barr when peak buses can't cope with the volume of passengers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 13, 2018, 09:35:01 AM
2112-4H lovely buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 19, 2018, 04:25:14 PM
Anybody know if the 70 and 70A interwork
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 19, 2018, 04:51:24 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 19, 2018, 04:25:14 PM
Anybody know if the 70 and 70A interwork

No. They're standalone on seperate running boards.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 19, 2018, 05:25:23 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 19, 2018, 04:51:24 PM
No. They're standalone on seperate running boards.
Thank you @Nathan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on December 21, 2018, 05:40:47 PM
I presume this has caused some issues today with the routes along that road?

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2018/12/21/armed-police-block-off-main-road-in-walsall/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 21, 2018, 05:58:37 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on December 21, 2018, 05:40:47 PM
I presume this has caused some issues today with the routes along that road?

https://www.expressandstar.com/news/crime/2018/12/21/armed-police-block-off-main-road-in-walsall/
That's why the 4s were running in 2s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on December 21, 2018, 06:34:19 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 21, 2018, 05:58:37 PM
That's why the 4s were running in 2s

It wouldn't have affected the 4, as it doesn't go down that way.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 21, 2018, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on December 21, 2018, 06:34:19 PM
It wouldn't have affected the 4, as it doesn't go down that way.

Bet it had a knock on the 11/11a!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 21, 2018, 07:03:34 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 21, 2018, 06:51:20 PM
Bet it had a knock on the 11/11a!
Yep 2 came down not in service 1764 and 1765 managed to get a pic of them
Check photo link if u want
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 21, 2018, 10:20:33 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 21, 2018, 07:03:34 PM
Yep 2 came down not in service 1764 and 1765 managed to get a pic of them
Check photo link if u want

To be honest, you only have to sneeze & thats a 20 minute delay on that route!

Least now I'm back at Willenhall,  I've got a choice of routes, for example, if the 529 plays up, I can always catch a 326 instead!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on December 22, 2018, 08:38:37 AM
Quote from: Westy on December 21, 2018, 06:51:20 PM
Bet it had a knock on the 11/11a!

I just missed an 11A when I arrived in Wednesbury off a 41A, I ended up waiting 20 minutes then two came at once.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 22, 2018, 04:15:48 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on December 22, 2018, 08:38:37 AM
I just missed an 11A when I arrived in Wednesbury off a 41A, I ended up waiting 20 minutes then two came at once.
That's probably when I saw two come in not in service then go on the 11
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 22, 2018, 07:43:52 PM
Revised timetable changes to the 29,70,70A
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-6th-january-2019

Looks like the 29 and 70A will interwork so will the 29 still do a blakenall then a bloxwich then a 70A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 22, 2018, 07:46:18 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 22, 2018, 07:43:52 PM
Revised timetable changes to the 29,70,70A
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-6th-january-2019

Looks like the 29 and 70A will interwork so will the 29 still do a blakenall then a bloxwich then a 70A

What makes you think that?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 22, 2018, 08:10:40 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 22, 2018, 07:46:18 PM
What makes you think that?

I heard a rumour that its gonna happen @Tony can u confirm if that's true or not
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on January 01, 2019, 03:40:24 PM
When will 2131 be going to be used in service as I've yet to see that one in the nbus livery thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 01, 2019, 03:50:25 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on January 01, 2019, 03:40:24 PM
When will 2131 be going to be used in service as I've yet to see that one in the nbus livery thanks
I did get that a couple of weeks ago but haven't seen it since there was a report of it breaking down if that helps
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 01, 2019, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 01, 2019, 03:50:25 PM
I did get that a couple of weeks ago but haven't seen it since there was a report of it breaking down if that helps

You're didn't get it a couple of weeks ago and no talk of it breaking  down. Both see buses away from home garage thread.  It's at BC having an electrical loom replaced
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 01, 2019, 06:14:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 01, 2019, 05:01:10 PM
You're didn't get it a couple of weeks ago and no talk of it breaking  down. Both see buses away from home garage thread.  It's at BC having an electrical loom replaced
Oops sorry @Tony that must of been 2132 I have seen it in Wm bus livery though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on January 02, 2019, 08:00:02 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 01, 2019, 05:01:10 PM
You're didn't get it a couple of weeks ago and no talk of it breaking  down. Both see buses away from home garage thread.  It's at BC having an electrical loom replaced
thanks Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on January 04, 2019, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: mrboshell on January 04, 2019, 02:49:12 PM
1893 on WA952
Why is an Omnilink on an Omnilnk route noteworthy  ???
In fact the 952 doesn't see anything else but Omnilinks very often?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusDriverBosh on January 04, 2019, 03:03:35 PM
Quote from: 2206 on January 04, 2019, 02:58:23 PM
Why is an Omnilink on an Omnilnk route noteworthy  ???
In fact the 952 doesn't see anything else but Omnilinks very often?
they're usually crimson on the 952, not the old red and white ones
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 04, 2019, 04:35:24 PM
6717 is out at Walsall this afternoon on WA934/21. It's just left Walsall on the 16:25 X51 to Birmingham and will do the 17:10 937 to Brownhills West before returning to garage.

Credit to @Michael Bevan for posting this on Facebook
I myself did see this parked up on Lichfield road behind 4599
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on January 04, 2019, 08:06:57 PM
Quote from: 2206 on January 04, 2019, 02:58:23 PM
Why is an Omnilink on an Omnilnk route noteworthy  ???
In fact the 952 doesn't see anything else but Omnilinks very often?

@2206 please stop being rude with new members @mrboshell made a point about the red/white scanias (which Walsall has not got many left) if people want to find them. Boshell works for the company and you do not

Ps please do not PM me and reply in thread it's annoying
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on January 04, 2019, 08:10:23 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on January 04, 2019, 08:06:57 PM
@2206 please stop being rude with new members @mrboshell made a point about the red/white scanias (which Walsall has not got many left) if people want to find them. Boshell works for the company and you do not

Ps please do not PM me and reply in thread it's annoying

I don't think @2206 intended to be rude, understandable if it came across that way.

Is it work noting 4 branded Omnlinks on the 4? This seems to be a regular occurence
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 04, 2019, 08:50:06 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on January 04, 2019, 08:06:57 PM
@2206 please stop being rude with new members @mrboshell made a point about the red/white scanias (which Walsall has not got many left) if people want to find them. Boshell works for the company and you do not

Ps please do not PM me and reply in thread it's annoying
It's usual actually. I see the route daily unlike yourself.

Quote from: Sh4318 on January 04, 2019, 08:10:23 PM

Is it work noting 4 branded Omnlinks on the 4? This seems to be a regular occurence
May as well start noting 34/39 branded Omnilinks on the 34 and 39, it's very regular like branded Omnilink on the 952, and red and white ones.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on January 04, 2019, 09:14:57 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 04, 2019, 08:50:06 PM
It's usual actually. I see the route daily unlike yourself.
May as well start noting 34/39 branded Omnilinks on the 34 and 39, it's very regular like branded Omnilink on the 952, and red and white ones.

I know the allocation of the 952 as you bang on about that route all the time... just because I live in Pensnett does not mean I only know main pensnett allocations. And walsalls red and white scanias (only 4 left) are fastly becoming crimson HENCE why mrboshell pointed out it's rare to see a red and white one on the 952...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 04, 2019, 09:30:32 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on January 04, 2019, 09:14:57 PM
I know the allocation of the 952 as you bang on about that route all the time... just because I live in Pensnett does not mean I only know main pensnett allocations. And walsalls red and white scanias (only 4 left) are fastly becoming crimson HENCE why mrboshell pointed out it's rare to see a red and white one on the 952...
It isn't rare, 1893 today, 1889 the other day and others on other days...
Just because an Omnilink is in a different livery doesn't make it rare, especially on a route that's allocated Omnilinks, everyone may as well just report 4 brandeds and 34/39 brandeds on their branded routes as its usual, like red and whites on the 952...
The red and white Omnilinks don't have an allocated route (ever noticed?) so they go on any Omnilink operated route. Should just report them on the 4, 29 etc as they usual on them...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on January 04, 2019, 09:34:33 PM
Red and white omnilink on 4H today. Don't hate for the post
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on January 04, 2019, 10:13:38 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on January 04, 2019, 08:10:23 PM
I don't think @2206 intended to be rude, understandable if it came across that way.

Is it work noting 4 branded Omnlinks on the 4? This seems to be a regular occurence
I did not intend it to come across as rude and I apologise if it did come across that way.
Quote from: Jack on January 04, 2019, 09:30:32 PM
It isn't rare, 1893 today, 1889 the other day and others on other days...
Just because an Omnilink is in a different livery doesn't make it rare, especially on a route that's allocated Omnilinks, everyone may as well just report 4 brandeds and 34/39 brandeds on their branded routes as its usual, like red and whites on the 952...
The red and white Omnilinks don't have an allocated route (ever noticed?) so they go on any Omnilink operated route. Should just report them on the 4, 29 etc as they usual on them...
I agree with this, WA don't differentiate with these Omnilinks and the 952 gets any Omnilink, whatever colour it is, from what i've seen whenever i'm in the City Centre.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on January 05, 2019, 01:07:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 05, 2019, 12:50:27 PM
1776 is also allocated to the training fleet

@Tony Will any of Walsall's B7RLEs be used as trainers at all in the near-ish future?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on January 05, 2019, 09:25:18 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 04, 2019, 04:35:24 PM
6717 is out at Walsall this afternoon on WA934/21. It's just left Walsall on the 16:25 X51 to Birmingham and will do the 17:10 937 to Brownhills West before returning to garage.

Credit to @Michael Bevan for posting this on Facebook
I myself did see this parked up on Lichfield road behind 4599

So you're definitely not too young for Facebook.... 😂
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 05, 2019, 09:49:08 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 05, 2019, 09:25:18 PM
So you're definitely not too young for Facebook.... 😂
I ain't repeating myself again @Kevin after this my parents check my account every night wanna know who checks aswell do you
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusDriverBosh on January 06, 2019, 07:14:45 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 05, 2019, 09:49:08 PM
I ain't repeating myself again @Kevin after this my parents check my account every night wanna know who checks aswell do you
clearly too young to even own a computer
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 06, 2019, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: mrboshell on January 06, 2019, 07:14:45 PM
clearly too young to even own a computer
For your information I don't own a computer if your referring to my peofile picture that is a laptop which I don't so call use it for Facebook and I haven't even connected to my internet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 07, 2019, 06:48:36 PM
Brand new for Walsall garage
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/260.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 07, 2019, 07:00:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 07, 2019, 06:48:36 PM
Brand new for Walsall garage
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/260.html
Looks very smart can't wait to see it In real life
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on January 07, 2019, 08:11:50 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 07, 2019, 06:48:36 PM
Brand new for Walsall garage
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/260.html

Is this a one off / replacement for one of the 60/11 plate Levantes 116 or 135?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 07, 2019, 08:27:34 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 07, 2019, 08:11:50 PM
Is this a one off / replacement for one of the 60/11 plate Levantes 116 or 135?

replacement on the NX network for 135
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on January 07, 2019, 08:37:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 07, 2019, 08:27:34 PM
replacement on the NX network for 135

Cheers Boss.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mikestone on January 08, 2019, 03:30:57 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 07, 2019, 07:00:27 PM
Looks very smart can't wait to see it In real life
I saw one at KX on the A8 -  even though I am generally of the opinion that PCV styling is largely a case of bull***t baffling brains this does seem a truly retrograde change.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 12, 2019, 11:47:01 PM
Does anybody know where the 22:49 32 from lower farm was and me and my family have to walk home and my family are saying "national express is getting worser instead of better" I did try to convince that it probably a breakdown or something else but if anybody know where the bus was it would be greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 13, 2019, 11:32:06 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 12, 2019, 11:47:01 PM
Does anybody know where the 22:49 32 from lower farm was and me and my family have to walk home and my family are saying "national express is getting worser instead of better" I did try to convince that it probably a breakdown or something else but if anybody know where the bus was it would be greatly appreciated

Did the 2230 operate from Walsall, as that would have become the 2249 from Lower Farm?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 13, 2019, 09:01:47 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 13, 2019, 11:32:06 AM
Did the 2230 operate from Walsall, as that would have become the 2249 from Lower Farm?
I did see a driver on Stafford street coming up from Walsall not in service and it was a 211* and the driver of it (I saw him operate a 32 at about 1800 towards Walsall just coming down Stafford street as I was on 2126 going up to lower farm) and the vechiele looked perfectly fine no smashed windows or no damage that I could see
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 14, 2019, 07:07:39 PM
2132 now branded for the 31/32
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 15, 2019, 07:11:49 PM
4155 was broken down. In Barr beacon while on the 77 so probably the end for that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 15, 2019, 09:00:36 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 15, 2019, 07:11:49 PM
4155 was broken down. In Barr beacon while on the 77 so probably the end for that

Not necessarily.

I remember posting about one of the B10ls around the time they were being withdrawn, that broke down near me, & thinking that was it for that particular vehicle, but it reappeared for a further stint!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 15, 2019, 09:03:30 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 15, 2019, 07:11:49 PM
4155 was broken down. In Barr beacon while on the 77 so probably the end for that

It went back out later on in the afternoon. I saw it at 18:15 on a 77E to Beggars Bush.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 15, 2019, 10:41:14 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on January 15, 2019, 09:03:30 PM
It went back out later on in the afternoon. I saw it at 18:15 on a 77E to Beggars Bush.
Thank god it's back in service but for how long though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on January 17, 2019, 11:39:16 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on January 15, 2019, 10:41:14 PM
Thank god it's back in service but for how long though

It's not, taken out of service last night after failing regular inspection; 'Withdrawals' topic refers.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 17, 2019, 01:04:31 PM
So will Walsall get something to replace it eventually?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on January 17, 2019, 01:05:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 17, 2019, 01:04:31 PM
So will Walsall get something to replace it eventually?

They're having extra Platinum's from PN 6712-8
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on January 19, 2019, 01:09:44 AM
Quote from: Winston on January 17, 2019, 01:05:41 PM
They're having extra Platinum's from PN 6712-8

I thought 6712 was at AG? Or have I got my wires crossed?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on January 19, 2019, 01:13:07 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on January 19, 2019, 01:09:44 AM
I thought 6712 was at AG? Or have I got my wires crossed?
ex PN 6711 is the AG one.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on January 20, 2019, 09:02:57 PM
1851 now branded for the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on January 20, 2019, 11:02:55 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 20, 2019, 09:02:57 PM
1851 now branded for the 4
Apparently all of 2125-2132 are now 31/32 branded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on January 24, 2019, 02:57:37 PM
6719 is on the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 24, 2019, 03:07:52 PM
4127 is parked against the fence at Walsall, not sure if it's finished yet, but probably is.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: V89MOA on January 29, 2019, 11:39:17 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on January 20, 2019, 09:02:57 PM
1851 now branded for the 4
1862 also now done.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jordan on February 03, 2019, 06:46:50 PM
The 1834 997 didn't turn up does anyone know why
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 06, 2019, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on February 06, 2019, 09:10:17 AM
Crimson Omnilink - WA89

Omnilinks are on the 8/89 daily buddy 👍
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 06, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
Quote from: Nathan on February 06, 2019, 12:50:29 PM
Omnilinks are on the 8/89 daily buddy 👍

They're not listed on the spreadsheet  ::)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 06, 2019, 05:48:12 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on February 06, 2019, 05:39:45 PM
They're not listed on the spreadsheet  ::)
A lot of things aren't listed on it...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 06, 2019, 06:48:52 PM
Is the 952 going to return to Perry Barr? Driver told me it's going back soon?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 12, 2019, 02:46:09 PM
Noted at least 1  e200 on 4H over past week. Today 857 is on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jordan on February 13, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
Anyone know why their is a Walsall platinum in West Bromwich
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on February 13, 2019, 02:54:09 PM
Quote from: Jordan on February 13, 2019, 12:36:17 PM
Anyone know why their is a Walsall platinum in West Bromwich

MOT or work to be done to it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on February 13, 2019, 05:38:35 PM
tony hunter reported it this morning having branding done 6931
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on February 14, 2019, 12:17:59 AM
Quote from: cris 99 on February 13, 2019, 05:38:35 PM
tony hunter reported it this morning having branding done 6931
i had 6931 on X10  9 branded bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on February 18, 2019, 04:31:03 PM
1757 on the 34 if anyone wants it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on February 21, 2019, 09:35:21 AM
@Michael Bevan Not on a school board as its half term. There is no schools.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on February 21, 2019, 09:43:32 AM
Quote from: Dom on February 21, 2019, 09:35:21 AM
@Michael Bevan Not on a school board as its half term. There is no schools.

Actually @Dom it's on the 701 board which does a round trip on the 31 in the morning (09:30 from Walsall).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on February 25, 2019, 05:20:52 PM
4346-31
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 01, 2019, 08:48:44 AM
4125 off to Wolverhampton this morning, presumably for MoT
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 08, 2019, 05:17:01 PM
Omnilinks are usual on the 8/89, @StourValley98.
Pretty sure you already got told by someone else that it is.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on March 08, 2019, 06:24:32 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 08, 2019, 05:17:01 PM
Omnilinks are usual on the 8/89, @StourValley98.
Pretty sure you already got told by someone else that it is.

If you read my post, you'd see that I'm basing it off what's on the spreadsheet for that thread. I'm not that clued up on what's noteworthy or not in some places so I just base it off there, if it's not correct then it's not my issue.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wright liberator on March 08, 2019, 08:15:35 PM
Wa enviro SN64OEP (860) was on rt3 saw at pelsall 18:50/55 probs still on rt3
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on March 08, 2019, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 08, 2019, 05:17:01 PM
Omnilinks are usual on the 8/89, @StourValley98.
Pretty sure you already got told by someone else that it is.

Quote from: StourValley98 on March 08, 2019, 06:24:32 PM
If you read my post, you'd see that I'm basing it off what's on the spreadsheet for that thread. I'm not that clued up on what's noteworthy or not in some places so I just base it off there, if it's not correct then it's not my issue.

@StourValley98 If the spreadsheet is not correct, then that's because I have not been notified in the relevant thread (http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4016.0) here. I have now adjusted the spreadsheet accordingly, and I can see this was reported by Jack, however no-one has verified this information.

As I have explained previously, I am also "not clued up" as to what is noteworthy or not, as I don't work for NXWM and am not privy to route allocation information.

@Jack you seem to have far more knowledge on bus route allocations than I do, and you also seem to have far more spare time than I do which allows you to travel around and observe buses. So I am surprised that you have not bravely volunteered to help out with the editing of the spreadsheet in order to keep it up to date.

In fact, it is worth pointing out that despite my appeal for help, no-one at all has offered to assist me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on March 08, 2019, 09:01:30 PM
@Stu

I would probably say your best source for this info would be

@karl724223 and @pndriver for pensnett
@BN for wolves
@BU07 LGO for Walsall
BC Driver for Birmingham
@2900 and @wbdriver for West Brom

For the up to date info
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 08, 2019, 10:38:30 PM
@Stu I can help out accurately with information updating the types on the spreadsheets if i get chance (WN & WA in particular)

While on the subject, as one of my local routes and a daily user of it, i can confirm B7RLE's (both Eclipse Urban and Urban 2 bodied examples) and Omnilinks are the main types on the 89 during the week. Tridents and E400's are commonly used (usually a couple of deckers during the week and main allocation on a Saturday).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on March 09, 2019, 12:16:18 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on March 08, 2019, 09:01:30 PM
@Stu

I would probably say your best source for this info would be

@karl724223 and @pndriver for pensnett
@BN for wolves
@BU07 LGO for Walsall
BC Driver for Birmingham
@2900 and @wbdriver for West Brom

For the up to date info
You forgot @John for PB
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on March 09, 2019, 12:35:23 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on March 08, 2019, 09:01:30 PM
@Stu

I would probably say your best source for this info would be

@karl724223 and @pndriver for pensnett
@BN for wolves
@BU07 LGO for Walsall
BC Driver for Birmingham
@2900 and @wbdriver for West Brom

For the up to date info

I can help out for WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on March 09, 2019, 01:37:22 PM
Sorry @John and @Dom for forgetting you guys
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on March 09, 2019, 05:18:32 PM
Platinum bus on the 10A route showing date and time instead of just "National Express" on the upstairs display. More useful 👍. It has no route branding or USB sockets for those interested.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on March 09, 2019, 05:21:49 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on March 09, 2019, 05:18:32 PM
USB sockets for those interested.
It was never going to.
No WA or AG (2015) Platinums have USB sockets.
Only the ones new from 2016 onwards at other garages.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on March 10, 2019, 06:36:29 PM
Quote from: 2206 on March 09, 2019, 05:21:49 PM
It was never going to.
No WA or AG (2015) Platinums have USB sockets.
Only the ones new from 2016 onwards at other garages.

I'm aware of that, was just in case somebody wanted to know specifically. Is the 529 Walsall garage as those have USBs?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 10, 2019, 06:40:37 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on March 10, 2019, 06:36:29 PM
I'm aware of that, was just in case somebody wanted to know specifically. Is the 529 Walsall garage as those have USBs?

There's the clue!
Walsall buses do not have USBs, the 529 does!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on March 10, 2019, 07:28:20 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on March 10, 2019, 06:36:29 PM
I'm aware of that, was just in case somebody wanted to know specifically. Is the 529 Walsall garage as those have USBs?

529 is Wolverhampton operated. Has been since July 2011.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on March 14, 2019, 03:15:37 PM
4348 was on the 07:37 29 to blakenall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on March 16, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Service 11/11A timetable changes 24 March 2019 with an extra bus added in peak hours. Hopefully this should improve reliability and reduced big gaps in service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on March 16, 2019, 11:59:59 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on March 16, 2019, 08:44:47 PM
Service 11/11A timetable changes 24 March 2019 with an extra bus added in peak hours. Hopefully this should improve reliability and reduced big gaps in service.

Good news, hopefully it will result in an improvement overall as like you've said, there are big gaps in service at times.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on March 27, 2019, 04:35:24 PM
4 | 4H | 4M branded bus on the X51 just now 🤔 Platinum 51 the other day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 11:10:39 AM
The 4Hs are stuck in Hayley green. 2 parked up on fallowfield road as unable to get through whilst dunstall being resurfaced
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on April 01, 2019, 11:12:20 AM
Why didn't the council notify nx bus about resurfacing in Hayley green
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 11:20:00 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on April 01, 2019, 11:12:20 AM
Why didn't the council notify nx bus about resurfacing in Hayley green

Dunno short notice perhaps. The diversion is a way too narrow road. Diamond are managing to turn buses round on the road and go a different route. Nx on the other hand are happy to sit there with the hazards on
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 01, 2019, 12:25:01 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 11:20:00 AM
Dunno short notice perhaps. The diversion is a way too narrow road. Diamond are managing to turn buses round on the road and go a different route. Nx on the other hand are happy to sit there with the hazards on

Diamond are carrying on down Fallowfield Road using the grass verge to go past the stuck NX 4H.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 12:32:17 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 01, 2019, 12:25:01 PM
Diamond are carrying on down Fallowfield Road using the grass verge to go past the stuck NX 4H.

I can reassure you they are not. I've seen it with my own eyes they were all turning round and going up meadowbrook road. Road reopened now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 01, 2019, 12:47:20 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 12:32:17 PM
I can reassure you they are not. I've seen it with my own eyes they were all turning round and going up meadowbrook road. Road reopened now

I've been sat there since 10am, they are. The road is still closed aswell, hasn't reopened at all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 01, 2019, 12:47:20 PM
I've been sat there since 10am, they are. The road is still closed aswell, hasn't reopened at all.

So your the one that buggered it up for the rest of them? Did you not see the diamond buses reversing and going back up the road? Why could you not get through if so called diamond are pushing past you?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on April 01, 2019, 01:12:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
So your the one that buggered it up for the rest of them? Did you not see the diamond buses reversing and going back up the road? Why could you not get through if so called diamond are pushing past you?
How's is it his fault if his bus has broken down it wasn't his choice was it !!!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 01:16:15 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on April 01, 2019, 01:12:27 PM
How's is it his fault if his bus has broken down it wasn't his choice was it !!!!

I doubt his bus broke down, he just couldn't manoeuvre it!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 01, 2019, 03:48:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 12:54:47 PM
So your the one that buggered it up for the rest of them? Did you not see the diamond buses reversing and going back up the road? Why could you not get through if so called diamond are pushing past you?

Right, I wasn't the one that buggered everything up. I was going over the 4H loop as I haven't driven it in ages. The road was closed at the time. There was no road ahead closed signs up. The driver followed the signed diversion, this lead to a tight road that is far too narrow for a bus to get down and narrows out further towards the top. It was advised by AVL that the driver stays where he is and that an inspector would come out to him. I stayed with the driver, once the inspector arrived another 4H was stuck. We can not just
reverse a bus, a banksman is required, that is the law and not an NX policy.

When the driver tried to restart the bus, the battery was flat so wouldn't start and had to await for engineers to come out to boost start it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 01, 2019, 04:12:04 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 01, 2019, 03:48:36 PM
Right, I wasn't the one that buggered everything up. I was going over the 4H loop as I haven't driven it in ages. The road was closed at the time. There was no road ahead closed signs up. The driver followed the signed diversion, this lead to a tight road that is far too narrow for a bus to get down and narrows out further towards the top. It was advised by AVL that the driver stays where he is and that an inspector would come out to him. I stayed with the driver, once the inspector arrived another 4H was stuck. We can not just
reverse a bus, a banksman is required, that is the law and not an NX policy.

When the driver tried to restart the bus, the battery was flat so wouldn't start and had to await for engineers to come out to boost start it.
Sounds like you did...
If you see a road that looks too tight to accommodate a bus then why turn down it?
Surely common sense would tell you that...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 01, 2019, 04:32:36 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 01, 2019, 03:48:36 PM
Right, I wasn't the one that buggered everything up. I was going over the 4H loop as I haven't driven it in ages. The road was closed at the time. There was no road ahead closed signs up. The driver followed the signed diversion, this lead to a tight road that is far too narrow for a bus to get down and narrows out further towards the top. It was advised by AVL that the driver stays where he is and that an inspector would come out to him. I stayed with the driver, once the inspector arrived another 4H was stuck. We can not just
reverse a bus, a banksman is required, that is the law and not an NX policy.

When the driver tried to restart the bus, the battery was flat so wouldn't start and had to await for engineers to come out to boost start it.

Surely common sense would prevail and you would stand at the top of that road ensuring that another nx bus didn't also get stuck...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ashley 60171 on April 01, 2019, 04:46:12 PM
The dross have got their claws out good and proppa today ay they DBN? @Dom
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 01, 2019, 04:59:28 PM
Quote from: Jack on April 01, 2019, 04:12:04 PM
Sounds like you did...
If you see a road that looks too tight to accommodate a bus then why turn down it?
Surely common sense would tell you that...

How did I? I wasn't driving so your point is invalid. The driver was going the way he was told by control  and that was signed on the diversion signs.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on April 01, 2019, 07:01:25 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 01, 2019, 04:59:28 PM
How did I? I wasn't driving so your point is invalid. The driver was going the way he was told by control  and that was signed on the diversion signs.
They didn't read what you put properly I think
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 10, 2019, 05:07:51 PM
@Michael Bevan  not anymore, broke down in city.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 10, 2019, 05:28:44 PM
Quote from: Dom on April 10, 2019, 05:07:51 PM
@Michael Bevan  not anymore, broke down in city.

I've already posted that in another thread @Dom, along with 4862 which is still broken down in City.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on April 10, 2019, 09:06:03 PM
Anyone know whether the A51 still runs, only asking as its listed on traveline, with up to date service updates (Easter service etc) Thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BU07 LGO on April 11, 2019, 12:52:24 AM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on April 10, 2019, 09:06:03 PM
Anyone know whether the A51 still runs, only asking as its listed on traveline, with up to date service updates (Easter service etc) Thanks

No it hasn't ran since jan
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on April 11, 2019, 07:22:26 AM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on April 11, 2019, 12:52:24 AM
No it hasn't ran since jan

Thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on April 17, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on April 17, 2019, 04:34:15 PM
I believe they do. 34/39 branded 1888 is on there too, plus another 31/32 branded B7RLE on the 10.

Ive just thought, do the 34/39 branded Omnilinks ever actually make it onto the 39? Every time I see the 39, there's an E200 on it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 17, 2019, 07:25:56 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 17, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Ive just thought, do the 34/39 branded Omnilinks ever actually make it onto the 39? Every time I see the 39, there's an E200 on it

There seems to be a branded bus on the 29 pretty regular.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on April 17, 2019, 07:41:18 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 17, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Ive just thought, do the 34/39 branded Omnilinks ever actually make it onto the 39? Every time I see the 39, there's an E200 on it

Most 39's interwork with the 36, hence the E200's. The boards that just cover 34's are allocated Omnilinks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 17, 2019, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Nathan on April 17, 2019, 07:41:18 PM
Most 39's interwork with the 36, hence the E200's. The boards that just cover 34's are allocated Omnilinks.

Maybe some ought to be debranded, but without knowing how many branded versus how many boards .....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on April 17, 2019, 10:53:57 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 17, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Ive just thought, do the 34/39 branded Omnilinks ever actually make it onto the 39? Every time I see the 39, there's an E200 on it

Didn't they brand the entire pvr and then almost immediately start interworking the 36 & 39? Therefore having too many vehicles branded?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on April 17, 2019, 11:42:39 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on April 17, 2019, 07:22:03 PM
Ive just thought, do the 34/39 branded Omnilinks ever actually make it onto the 39? Every time I see the 39, there's an E200 on it

I think the same... standing in the main bus station I see 34/39 and 4/4M/4H branded buses doing other routes, usually the 29
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 18, 2019, 12:22:20 AM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on April 17, 2019, 11:42:39 PM
I think the same... standing in the main bus station I see 34/39 and 4/4M/4H branded buses doing other routes, usually the 29
Every day theres a branded his on the 29 even on a sunday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 19, 2019, 11:21:40 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on April 18, 2019, 12:22:20 AM
Every day theres a branded his on the 29 even on a sunday
You get the branded Omnilinks everywhere, the 34/39 branding looks smart and they've not been a branded a year, maybe some could have the branding changed brand the 29?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 19, 2019, 12:11:26 PM
Quote from: Jack on April 19, 2019, 11:21:40 AM
You get the branded Omnilinks everywhere, the 34/39 branding looks smart and they've not been a branded a year, maybe some could have the branding changed brand the 29?

The 29 interworks with the 70/70a doesn't it?

Rebrand the 11 / 11a maybe?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 19, 2019, 02:28:22 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 19, 2019, 12:11:26 PM
The 29 interworks with the 70/70a doesn't it?

Rebrand the 11 / 11a maybe?
@Westy yes only certain boreds interwork with the 70A doesn't interwork with the 70
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mesub on April 19, 2019, 08:51:13 PM
What is:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Nottingham/920.html
Doing in the nxwm Walsall garage?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on April 19, 2019, 09:02:51 PM
Quote from: mesub on April 19, 2019, 08:51:13 PM
What is:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Nottingham/920.html
Doing in the nxwm Walsall garage?
some said repainting it for Nottingham city transport
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 19, 2019, 11:31:50 PM
Quote from: mesub on April 19, 2019, 08:51:13 PM
What is:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Nottingham/920.html
Doing in the nxwm Walsall garage?
A post on Facebook suggests it's going green to match the streetlites and put it on the 10 10H and 10S
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 19, 2019, 11:34:45 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on April 19, 2019, 11:31:50 PM
A post on Facebook suggests it's going green to match the streetlites and put it on the 10 10H and 10S
If it was true it wouldn't even be able to go on the 10S.
Its been said that this has to have short single decks.
10H/36 maybe though?

If its true I wander whether it will get onto the commercial services, such as the 14, 60, etc. as well. Though the green could suggest its only temporary, before going to Dundee maybe?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 19, 2019, 11:37:12 PM
Quote from: 2206 on April 19, 2019, 11:34:45 PM
If it was true it wouldn't even be able to work the 10S.
10H/36 maybe though?
Anyway the lilac line is getting an upgrade to enviro400 city diesel I think so maybe more to come if it is getting painted into green
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 20, 2019, 07:23:05 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on April 19, 2019, 11:37:12 PM
Anyway the lilac line is getting an upgrade to enviro400 city diesel I think so maybe more to come if it is getting painted into green

You really think that is true?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on April 20, 2019, 08:09:40 AM
I would have thought that if NXWM or Xplore were to be buying second hand then they'd go for a vehicle type already operated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on April 20, 2019, 08:14:11 AM
Quote from: Gareth on April 20, 2019, 08:09:40 AM
I would have thought that if NXWM or Xplore were to be buying second hand then they'd go for a vehicle type already operated.

Depends if there is the quantity required available to them at the quality they need.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 20, 2019, 08:45:42 AM
Quote from: Dom on April 20, 2019, 08:14:11 AM
Depends if there is the quantity required available to them at the quality they need.

Nottingham 920 is at Walsall for nothing more than a repaint, it will then go back to Nottingham
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Speebird96 on April 20, 2019, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on April 19, 2019, 11:37:12 PM
Anyway the lilac line is getting an upgrade to enviro400 city diesel I think so maybe more to come if it is getting painted into green

Nope, Lilac Line 27 is receiving gas-powered Enviro400City's with the batch of 6 already being delivered to Keltruck, Nottingham.

920 is merely being repainted into NCT's spare colours like 918-919/921-923 which have already been repainted from Lilac Line branding.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Crosville on April 21, 2019, 12:09:46 PM
Paying a visit to the West Midlands on Friday, was in Walsall briefly changing from the 4 to the X51, so observing a few movements at the bus station, a couple routes look have platinum buses allocated, well the 6 & 10/10A from what i observed although i was in Walsall for about 20 minutes, got me wondering whether the normal 51 should be upgraded to platinum deckers as well?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 21, 2019, 12:44:32 PM
Quote from: Crosville on April 21, 2019, 12:09:46 PM
Paying a visit to the West Midlands on Friday, was in Walsall briefly changing from the 4 to the X51, so observing a few movements at the bus station, a couple routes look have platinum buses allocated, well the 6 & 10/10A from what i observed although i was in Walsall for about 20 minutes, got me wondering whether the normal 51 should be upgraded to platinum deckers as well?
6 and 10/A would have been spares. Friday was Saturday service so there would have been more spares available.
Same as the 60 at BC, it doesn't mean they are platinum routes.
In regards to the 51, not every route can have new platinum buses either. There aren't enough.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Crosville on April 21, 2019, 01:21:49 PM
Quote from: 2206 on April 21, 2019, 12:44:32 PM
6 and 10/A would have been spares. Friday was Saturday service so there would have been more spares available.
Same as the 60 at BC, it doesn't mean they are platinum routes.
In regards to the 51, not every route can have new platinum buses either. There aren't enough.

I get it, was more of making the use of spare platinums.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 21, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Has Walsall got all the early Platties now?


There isn't any left at the other depots, that have the same type of gearbox as the Walsall ones, is there?


I suppose if Walsall increased its Platty routes, it would necessitate them having a complete change of vehicle stock, due to the gearbox or whatever, that is different to the later batches?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WMT3000 on April 21, 2019, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 21, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Has Walsall got all the early Platties now?


There isn't any left at the other depots, that have the same type of gearbox as the Walsall ones, is there?


I suppose if Walsall increased its Platty routes, it would necessitate them having a complete change of vehicle stock, due to the gearbox or whatever, that is different to the later batches?
I think 6701 - 6711 at AG would be the same wouldn't they?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on April 21, 2019, 04:49:31 PM
Quote from: WMT3000 on April 21, 2019, 04:45:09 PM
I think 6701 - 6711 at AG would be the same wouldn't they?

Yeh they are the exact same
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 21, 2019, 05:10:27 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 21, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Has Walsall got all the early Platties now?


There isn't any left at the other depots, that have the same type of gearbox as the Walsall ones, is there?


I suppose if Walsall increased its Platty routes, it would necessitate them having a complete change of vehicle stock, due to the gearbox or whatever, that is different to the later batches?

Why not just look at the fleetlist I spend a long time providing?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on April 21, 2019, 06:37:38 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 21, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Has Walsall got all the early Platties now?


There isn't any left at the other depots, that have the same type of gearbox as the Walsall ones, is there?


I suppose if Walsall increased its Platty routes, it would necessitate them having a complete change of vehicle stock, due to the gearbox or whatever, that is different to the later batches?

Acocks Green still have 6701-11
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on April 21, 2019, 07:48:10 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 21, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Has Walsall got all the early Platties now?


There isn't any left at the other depots, that have the same type of gearbox as the Walsall ones, is there?


I suppose if Walsall increased its Platty routes, it would necessitate them having a complete change of vehicle stock, due to the gearbox or whatever, that is different to the later batches?
AG has 11 of the 15 regs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on April 21, 2019, 08:39:21 PM
West-facing suspect not as Acocks Green have about ten for the X12(or whatever it is numbered).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on April 21, 2019, 08:59:24 PM
Quote from: markcf83 on April 21, 2019, 08:39:21 PM
West-facing suspect not as Acocks Green have about ten for the X12(or whatever it is numbered).
I just mentioned the have 11 for the X12 6701-6711
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 21, 2019, 09:05:45 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 21, 2019, 04:43:01 PM
Has Walsall got all the early Platties now?


There isn't any left at the other depots, that have the same type of gearbox as the Walsall ones, is there?


I suppose if Walsall increased its Platty routes, it would necessitate them having a complete change of vehicle stock, due to the gearbox or whatever, that is different to the later batches?
No acocks green still have 6701-6711
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 21, 2019, 10:09:10 PM
Why have 5 people posted the same reply?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on April 22, 2019, 12:32:16 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 21, 2019, 10:09:10 PM
Why have 5 people posted the same reply?
apologies Tony wasn't paying attention
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 22, 2019, 03:14:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 21, 2019, 10:09:10 PM
Why have 5 people posted the same reply?
Sorry Tony didnt realise people had all ready posted my sincere apologies
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 08, 2019, 12:46:33 PM
Just seen 6724 on West Bromwich Road headed towards Tame Bridge Parkway out of service. Any idea what it's doing heading down this way?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 37351ml on May 08, 2019, 01:07:13 PM
Maybe Returning from MOT at WB.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 08, 2019, 01:38:44 PM
Quote from: 37351ml on May 08, 2019, 01:07:13 PM
Maybe Returning from MOT at WB.

It'd be heading the other way if it was coming back from WB, I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on May 08, 2019, 08:59:29 PM
Maybe going to WB for a MOT
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on May 08, 2019, 09:20:18 PM
Don't forget Walsall Platinums regularly do the mobility scooter training
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 09, 2019, 03:34:27 PM
@2938, hardly noteworthy seeing Tridents on the 51...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 09, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Jack on May 09, 2019, 03:34:27 PM
@2938, hardly noteworthy seeing Tridents on the 51...

3 is noteworthy Mon-fri
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 09, 2019, 08:44:42 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on May 09, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
3 is noteworthy Mon-fri
If you say so. I don't class it though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 10, 2019, 12:25:18 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on May 09, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
3 is noteworthy Mon-fri

@PB2938 4595-96 and 4606-09 regularly used on the 51 on weekdays and Saturdays (although I will admit that I haven't seen one on there in the last few weeks until recently). I suspect we'll see them on the 51 more often with the Euro 6 conversions happening with the Enviro 400's at the moment...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BH2004 on May 11, 2019, 11:00:31 PM
What's happening to 4125 is it going training
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 12, 2019, 08:04:29 AM
How have the cannock loadings been on the X51? Encouraging?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 12, 2019, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: BH2004 on May 11, 2019, 11:00:31 PM
What's happening to 4125 is it going training

I don't want to reveal anything out of respect for who confirmed it, but keep an eye on the main site over the coming days.  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: sonic84 on May 12, 2019, 10:55:12 AM
Quote from: Bob on May 12, 2019, 08:04:29 AM
How have the cannock loadings been on the X51? Encouraging?

The x51 I took from birmingham to cannock on Saturday had a fair few on board around 1pm leaving the city

The return journey was quieter but passengers were enquiring about a Sunday service. Seems encouraging!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 12, 2019, 12:20:38 PM
Quote from: sonic84 on May 12, 2019, 10:55:12 AM
The x51 I took from birmingham to cannock on Saturday had a fair few on board around 1pm leaving the city

The return journey was quieter but passengers were enquiring about a Sunday service. Seems encouraging!

Coming from brum tho did many stay on to Cannock?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on May 12, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
Quote from: Bob on May 12, 2019, 08:04:29 AM
How have the cannock loadings been on the X51? Encouraging?

One went past on Friday about half 4 in Wyrley and it looked really busy downstairs. However how many have concessionary passes? They only get £1 per scan which is rubbish for operators I think.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 12, 2019, 01:11:01 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 12, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
One went past on Friday about half 4 in Wyrley and it looked really busy downstairs. However how many have concessionary passes? They only get £1 per scan which is rubbish for operators I think.

Slightly off topic, but do you know how much they get per scan of an nBus pass?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: sonic84 on May 12, 2019, 02:20:08 PM
Quote from: Bob on May 12, 2019, 12:20:38 PM
Coming from brum tho did many stay on to Cannock?

Not sure to be honest as was sat upstairs. There were 3/4 upstairs who went from birmingham to cannock.

On the way back no-one travelled the full distance but there were people who got on in Bloxwich and stayed on til Birmingham.

No one got on or off in Great Wyrley in either direction.

Out of interest did many used to use the service from Cheslyn Hay before it was rerouted?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on May 12, 2019, 06:47:18 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 12, 2019, 10:44:07 AM
I don't want to reveal anything out of respect for who confirmed it, but keep an eye on the main site over the coming days.  ;)

Hopefully it'll appear in TWM livery for its semi preserved status. I was never a huge fan of red white and blue, but it's far better than the red and white monstrosity!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on May 12, 2019, 06:50:10 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 12, 2019, 12:58:31 PM
One went past on Friday about half 4 in Wyrley and it looked really busy downstairs. However how many have concessionary passes? They only get £1 per scan which is rubbish for operators I think.

I didn't think it was as clean cut as x amount per scan. I thought it was a lot more complicated process and can actually vary by operator.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Cheese on May 13, 2019, 05:36:53 AM
Quote from: Gareth on May 12, 2019, 06:50:10 PM
I didn't think it was as clean cut as x amount per scan. I thought it was a lot more complicated process and can actually vary by operator.

Thought nBus was worked out by the number sold overall and revenue was apportioned by the percentage of services operated? Concessions are definitely not £1 per scan of a card, they are worked out on an average fare basis so all operators will be different.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on May 13, 2019, 07:47:08 AM
Currently sat on the 0745 X51 ex. Birmingham, and I notice it has the new-style announcements (with the female voice) for the Cannock journeys (and presumably Walsall, then).. ;) I mean - it could only be expected, but I had honestly thought it'd be a while yet.

edit: having passed several WA Platinums, with updated-style destinations, I can only assume it was a prompt rolliout over the past week, or so - which included the new announcements for the Platinum routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mesub on May 13, 2019, 07:48:30 AM
Quote from: CL on May 13, 2019, 07:47:08 AM
Currently sat on the 0745 X51 ex. Birmingham, and I notice it has the new-style announcements (with the female voice) for the Cannock journeys (and presumably Walsall, then).. ;) I mean - it could only be expected, but I had honestly thought it'd be a while yet.

That's Mr Platinum gone then

Edit: either that or they're having different voices for different zones.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on May 13, 2019, 04:50:20 PM
Quote from: mesub on May 13, 2019, 07:48:30 AM
That's Mr Platinum gone then

Edit: either that or they're having different voices for different zones.

Yes female voice now. Not keen really the destination announcement gets rather annoying, and that's a limited stop service, it would drive me mad on a non-express. Prefer the road name before the stop name too rather than just the stop.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mesub on May 13, 2019, 05:03:47 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 13, 2019, 04:50:20 PM
Yes female voice now. Not keen really the destination announcement gets rather annoying, and that's a limited stop service, it would drive me mad on a non-express. Prefer the road name before the stop name too rather than just the stop.

Phil Upton and Mr. Platinum (version 1, before it announced the destination) did read the road name and the stop name. I suppose just the stop name is alright, but I don't think it'll be friendly to people who don't always use the route often (ass they might know the road name but not the stop name)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 13, 2019, 05:10:22 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 13, 2019, 04:50:20 PM
Yes female voice now. Not keen really the destination announcement gets rather annoying, and that's a limited stop service, it would drive me mad on a non-express. Prefer the road name before the stop name too rather than just the stop.
Announcements on the X1/X2 don't really bother me.
I don't find the announcement of the destination annoying. Don't think it is any different or anymore annoying than hearing "the next stop is Rowood Drive", etc, every 30 seconds for an hour on the X12.

I think what the X20/X21/X22 announcements do is good and helpful to passengers not familiar with the stops and route, etc. Announcing major locations on the route after the stop name.
e.g. - University Station for Queen Elizabeth Hospital, New Fosse Way for the Olleaster, Westmere for University Conference Centre etc.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on May 13, 2019, 05:58:24 PM
Quote from: 2206 on May 13, 2019, 05:10:22 PM
Announcements on the X1/X2 don't really bother me.
I don't find the announcement of the destination annoying. Don't think it is any different or anymore annoying than hearing "the next stop is Rowood Drive", etc, every 30 seconds for an hour on the X12.

I think what the X20/X21/X22 announcements do is good and helpful to passengers not familiar with the stops and route, etc. Announcing major locations on the route after the stop name.
e.g. - University Station for Queen Elizabeth Hospital, New Fosse Way for the Olleaster, Westmere for University Conference Centre etc.

Which is why I'm surprised the reinstated stops on the X20/X21 don't say "for Selly Oak Shopping Park", as the other announcements are helpful.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on May 13, 2019, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: 2206 on May 13, 2019, 05:10:22 PM
I think what the X20/X21/X22 announcements do is good and helpful to passengers not familiar with the stops and route, etc. Announcing major locations on the route after the stop name.
e.g. - University Station for Queen Elizabeth Hospital, New Fosse Way for the Olleaster, Westmere for University Conference Centre etc.

X51 now has some of those. "James Watt Queensway for Aston University & Children's Hospital", "Corporation Street for Law Courts", "Corporation Street for Children's Hospital" and "Walsall Hatherton Road for Walsall Bus Station". Didn't go past Walsall today but I doubt anywhere in Bloxwich, Wyrley or Cannock would have anywhere of significance. Unless it states "for Landywood Station" at Wardles Lane which would be useful.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mesub on May 13, 2019, 08:40:48 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on May 13, 2019, 05:58:24 PM
Which is why I'm surprised the reinstated stops on the X20/X21 don't say "for Selly Oak Shopping Park", as the other announcements are helpful.

Probably because Mr. Platinum is not available for whatever reason and they can't be bothered to re-record the whole thing to a female voice
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 13, 2019, 08:52:52 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 13, 2019, 08:29:46 PM
X51 now has some of those. "James Watt Queensway for Aston University & Children's Hospital", "Corporation Street for Law Courts", "Corporation Street for Children's Hospital" and "Walsall Hatherton Road for Walsall Bus Station". Didn't go past Walsall today but I doubt anywhere in Bloxwich, Wyrley or Cannock would have anywhere of significance. Unless it states "for Landywood Station" at Wardles Lane which would be useful.
Be good if they did one for Perry Avenue: "Perry Avenue for Alexandra Stadium".
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mikestone on May 14, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 13, 2019, 08:29:46 PM
X51 now has some of those. "James Watt Queensway for Aston University & Children's Hospital", "Corporation Street for Law Courts", "Corporation Street for Children's Hospital" and "Walsall Hatherton Road for Walsall Bus Station". Didn't go past Walsall today but I doubt anywhere in Bloxwich, Wyrley or Cannock would have anywhere of significance. Unless it states "for Landywood Station" at Wardles Lane which would be useful.
In what world would someone get off an X51 to catch a train at Landywood?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 14, 2019, 03:11:17 PM
Quote from: mikestone on May 14, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
In what world would someone get off an X51 to catch a train at Landywood?

I don't know the area, but is the stop closer to Landywood station than Cannock Bus Station is to the rail station there? Someone could live along the route and want to get up to Rugeley or further afield, using the Trent Valley line, and it might be easier to change from the bus there than in Cannock.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 14, 2019, 04:31:21 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 14, 2019, 03:11:17 PM
I don't know the area, but is the stop closer to Landywood station than Cannock Bus Station is to the rail station there? Someone could live along the route and want to get up to Rugeley or further afield, using the Trent Valley line, and it might be easier to change from the bus there than in Cannock.

You'd catch the train at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on May 14, 2019, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 14, 2019, 03:11:17 PM
I don't know the area, but is the stop closer to Landywood station than Cannock Bus Station is to the rail station there? Someone could live along the route and want to get up to Rugeley or further afield, using the Trent Valley line, and it might be easier to change from the bus there than in Cannock.

Yes. On the old route it went past it, now it turns slightly before but its only a 2 minute walk. It's a very well used station.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on May 14, 2019, 05:48:37 PM
Quote from: mikestone on May 14, 2019, 10:03:56 AM
In what world would someone get off an X51 to catch a train at Landywood?

It's a place of significance that could be on the announcements is all im saying. But people in my area get a bus to the station. It's a long walk from Cheslyn Hay or Churchbridge and if you were to go to Cannock it's a long walk from there too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 14, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 14, 2019, 04:31:21 PM
You'd catch the train at Walsall

I was thinking of someone who lives on a part of the route after Walsall, as an example. I don't see why they'd go back on themselves.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 14, 2019, 07:41:55 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 14, 2019, 07:33:33 PM
I was thinking of someone who lives on a part of the route after Walsall, as an example. I don't see why they'd go back on themselves.

Anyone between Walsall and Bloxwich can, and has always been able to get the 31 to Bloxwich North Sattion

The Walsall Road, Cannock (2 before the bus station) stop is also only a short walk to Cannock Station
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 14, 2019, 07:52:25 PM
Seeing it was mentioned on the other thread about people walking from Turnberry onto Stafford Road for an X51, do many, especially evenings & Sundays, walk to the nearest 31 at Mossley Eagle Hotel?

Wouldve thought crossing Broad Lane railway bridge might be an issue?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 14, 2019, 08:13:48 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 14, 2019, 07:52:25 PM
Seeing it was mentioned on the other thread about people walking from Turnberry onto Stafford Road for an X51, do many, especially evenings & Sundays, walk to the nearest 31 at Mossley Eagle Hotel?

Wouldve thought crossing Broad Lane railway bridge might be an issue?

As far as I know most people on Turnberry Road are not scared of heights, or unable to cross a road safely, specially one with dedicated pedestrian refuges in the middle of it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 14, 2019, 08:22:13 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 14, 2019, 08:13:48 PM
As far as I know most people on Turnberry Road are not scared of heights, or unable to cross a road safely, specially one with dedicated pedestrian refuges in the middle of it

I only asked, because its not often I go up that way!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 18, 2019, 10:21:35 AM
10.16 X51 to brum hasnt turned up. Big queue since 10.05 most of which will probably now get the 1 if they arent travelling to Brum
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 18, 2019, 10:26:23 AM
10.16 to brum even. Most got on the 1 the rest got on the 2. Leaving 3 passengers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on May 18, 2019, 10:53:05 AM
Quote from: Bob on May 18, 2019, 10:26:23 AM
10.16 to brum even. Most got on the 1 the rest got on the 2. Leaving 3 passengers

Ouch that's not good for NX - great for Arriva though. At least they can change in Bloxwich or Walsall if they still need the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 18, 2019, 03:01:26 PM
Its not a good day at all for the X51, in addition to the 10.16 from Cannock not running at all this morning the 1.25 from brum which was several mins late, has made it back to Cannock and appears to have broken down. Still there at 2.55 with hazards on
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on May 18, 2019, 11:46:17 PM
Hi with the 29 route main road up to Coalpool and through to harden road closing from the 20-25 from 19:00 till 05:00 where will the 29s be diverting I thought the 19 way but them roads are way to thin for a scania or B7Rle
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 19, 2019, 10:50:50 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on May 18, 2019, 11:46:17 PM
Hi with the 29 route main road up to Coalpool and through to harden road closing from the 20-25 from 19:00 till 05:00 where will the 29s be diverting I thought the 19 way but them roads are way to thin for a scania or B7Rle

Would E200's fit, assuming WA are in a position to swap round for a few days?

Alternatively double decks are shorter in length, so swop with those instead!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 19, 2019, 11:20:58 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 19, 2019, 10:50:50 AM
Would E200's fit, assuming WA are in a position to swap round for a few days?

Alternatively double decks are shorter in length, so swop with those instead!

Could a B7RLE or Scania fit round the 39? I know there are Scanias branded for it but it seems to have E200s most of the time, so if a longer bus can fit on there, it would make sense to do a swap.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 19, 2019, 11:30:21 AM
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 19, 2019, 11:20:58 AM
Could a B7RLE or Scania fit round the 39? I know there are Scanias branded for it but it seems to have E200s most of the time, so if a longer bus can fit on there, it would make sense to do a swap.

The reason for the E200s on the 39 are the interworking with the 36

E200s are the same width as any other bus!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 19, 2019, 01:13:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 19, 2019, 11:30:21 AM
The reason for the E200s on the 39 are the interworking with the 36

E200s are the same width as any other bus!

I wasn't aware of the interworking, that makes sense then.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on May 19, 2019, 10:36:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 19, 2019, 10:50:50 AM
Would E200's fit, assuming WA are in a position to swap round for a few days?

Alternatively double decks are shorter in length, so swop with those instead!
Quote from: StourValley98 on May 19, 2019, 11:20:58 AM
Could a B7RLE or Scania fit round the 39? I know there are Scanias branded for it but it seems to have E200s most of the time, so if a longer bus can fit on there, it would make sense to do a swap.
So does anybody know where there diverting
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on May 24, 2019, 12:02:45 AM
Had a flyer pushed through my door offering a free day saver and advertising the X51 and it's platinum benefits. Other side of the village someone had the same flyer except theirs was a voucher for a day saver for £2 instead of £4.00/£4.60.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on May 24, 2019, 04:18:56 PM
Yes I have
Quote from: l.murphy123 on May 24, 2019, 12:02:45 AM
Had a flyer pushed through my door offering a free day saver and advertising the X51 and it's platinum benefits. Other side of the village someone had the same flyer except theirs was a voucher for a day saver for £2 instead of £4.00/£4.60.
one through my door aswell the exact same one as yours then it must be used before the 31st may
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 24, 2019, 07:07:08 PM
Nothing through the door in my street.

Must be the 'favoured few' again!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on May 24, 2019, 08:43:59 PM
The ex x10 platinums (6711-5) now have advert frames
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on May 24, 2019, 10:23:14 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on May 24, 2019, 08:43:59 PM
The ex x10 platinums (6711-5) now have advert frames
on both sides or just the right
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: busboy31 on May 26, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: SK68MEV on May 24, 2019, 10:23:14 PM
on both sides or just the right
It is on both sides but the price branded platinums don't have them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on May 26, 2019, 02:37:20 PM
Quote from: busboy31 on May 26, 2019, 02:29:14 PM
It is on both sides but the price branded platinums don't have them.
oh ok
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 04, 2019, 12:28:46 PM
Its now £2 return on the Darlo corridor, according to the scrolling display!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on June 04, 2019, 02:52:11 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 04, 2019, 12:28:46 PM
Its now £2 return on the Darlo corridor, according to the scrolling display!

Yes £2 return Walsall - Darlaston only to compete against Thandi.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 04, 2019, 04:39:02 PM
16:06 from Halesowen to Hayley green not turned up. Not tracking either. Does that mean it broke down?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 04, 2019, 06:56:16 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on June 04, 2019, 02:52:11 PM
Yes £2 return Walsall - Darlaston only to compete against Thandi.

According to the flyer I picked up, only until 29/6 & only available using cash or contactless between Bilston & Darlo.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 04, 2019, 07:06:27 PM
Standing room on the 32 that arrives in Leamore around 648 / 650am by the time it arrives in Walsall.

Do hope Nx powers that be are reconsidering their decision not to allow 31/32 tickets to be issued / accepted on the X51?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 04, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 04, 2019, 07:06:27 PM
Do hope Nx powers that be are reconsidering their decision not to allow 31/32 tickets to be issued / accepted on the X51?

Why would they accept them on the X51? People would  e travelling to Birmingham or Cannock on a 31/32 day saver
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 04, 2019, 09:40:39 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 04, 2019, 07:38:35 PM
Why would they accept them on the X51? People would  e travelling to Birmingham or Cannock on a 31/32 day saver

You've taken my sentence out of context & besides that's the job of the revenue team to police!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 04, 2019, 10:55:17 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 04, 2019, 09:40:39 PM
You've taken my sentence out of context & besides that's the job of the revenue team to police!

I get the context, over crowded 31/32, but my point is still valid and probably one of the main reasons they don't accept. Yes its the job of the revenue team but they don't check every bus so they would still lose out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 05, 2019, 04:06:40 PM
UID 34/37/39 Scania broke down at the Gala Bingo roundabout in Darlaston.

(Right outside yours truly's current place of work for the next few weeks!)

Recovery in attendance.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on June 05, 2019, 08:53:10 PM
Caught 6728 (I believe) into Birmingham on an X51, and, as expected, it changed onto a 997 short to Pheasey upon arrival to the City Centre.

When I got off, I noticed that the displayed have been updated in a way which omits the 'E' suffix from the display. It doesn't show 'part route', either.

Didn't NX get rid of the 'E' from short workings a while back, only to have them brought back again? I can't pinpoint which garage got rid of them for a while; I think it may have been either WB or YW ??? - but it was around the time the 'ThankYou100' blinds were introduced, iirc.

Anyhow, it was just an observation. Seeing as this is a timetabled short working, I wonder if others across the network would receive the same "update", if you will; perhaps 74E workings to West Bromwich could be updated to just show 74?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on June 05, 2019, 09:04:33 PM
Quote from: CL on June 05, 2019, 08:53:10 PM
Caught 6728 (I believe) into Birmingham on an X51, and, as expected, it changed onto a 997 short to Pheasey upon arrival to the City Centre.

When I got off, I noticed that the displayed have been updated in a way which omits the 'E' suffix from the display. It doesn't show 'part route', either.

Didn't NX get rid of the 'E' from short workings a while back, only to have them brought back again? I can't pinpoint which garage got rid of them for a while; I think it may have been either WB or YW ??? - but it was around the time the 'ThankYou100' blinds were introduced, iirc.

Anyhow, it was just an observation. Seeing as this is a timetabled short working, I wonder if others across the network would receive the same "update", if you will; perhaps 74E workings to West Bromwich could be updated to just show 74?

I've noticed in the last week or so the 87 that only go to oldbury on a night now display ' OLDBURY 87 and it's very confusing cause it looks like Dudley with out me glasses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mesub on June 05, 2019, 09:06:05 PM
Quote from: CL on June 05, 2019, 08:53:10 PM


Didn't NX get rid of the 'E' from short workings a while back, only to have them brought back again? I can't pinpoint which garage got rid of them for a while; I think it may have been either WB or YW
BC did it as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: aSingh on June 06, 2019, 05:48:52 AM
Quote from: CL on June 05, 2019, 08:53:10 PM
Caught 6728 (I believe) into Birmingham on an X51, and, as expected, it changed onto a 997 short to Pheasey upon arrival to the City Centre.

When I got off, I noticed that the displayed have been updated in a way which omits the 'E' suffix from the display. It doesn't show 'part route', either.

Didn't NX get rid of the 'E' from short workings a while back, only to have them brought back again? I can't pinpoint which garage got rid of them for a while; I think it may have been either WB or YW ??? - but it was around the time the 'ThankYou100' blinds were introduced, iirc.

Anyhow, it was just an observation. Seeing as this is a timetabled short working, I wonder if others across the network would receive the same "update", if you will; perhaps 74E workings to West Bromwich could be updated to just show 74?

Some people that get on the 74 from Bham till West Brom don't even bother looking at the destination display. Some stay on the 74E when we reach last stop at WB bus station only to realise that its not going towards Dudley when we park it the layover or take it round the ringway to bring it back onto Birmingham stand. Its quite funny sometimes  considering how many times it happens.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on June 06, 2019, 07:38:18 AM
Quote from: mesub on June 05, 2019, 09:06:05 PM
BC did it as well

WB definitely have them. For me, you only need an "E" suffix or "PART ROUTE", I'm not sure both are required
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on June 06, 2019, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on June 06, 2019, 07:38:18 AM
WB definitely have them. For me, you only need an "E" suffix or "PART ROUTE", I'm not sure both are required

They are both needed. Even then people still won't take a blind bit of notice

Even with our announcements on the X4 people still expect every one to go to Minworth
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mikestone on June 06, 2019, 09:35:12 AM
Quote from: aSingh on June 06, 2019, 05:48:52 AM
Some people that get on the 74 from Bham till West Brom don't even bother looking at the destination display. Some stay on the 74E when we reach last stop at WB bus station only to realise that its not going towards Dudley when we park it the layover or take it round the ringway to bring it back onto Birmingham stand. Its quite funny sometimes  considering how many times it happens.
I would suggest there is nothing funny about drivers failing to ensure their bus is empty before parking up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 06, 2019, 03:05:05 PM
Quote from: CL on June 05, 2019, 08:53:10 PM
Caught 6728 (I believe) into Birmingham on an X51, and, as expected, it changed onto a 997 short to Pheasey upon arrival to the City Centre.

When I got off, I noticed that the displayed have been updated in a way which omits the 'E' suffix from the display. It doesn't show 'part route', either.

Didn't NX get rid of the 'E' from short workings a while back, only to have them brought back again? I can't pinpoint which garage got rid of them for a while; I think it may have been either WB or YW ??? - but it was around the time the 'ThankYou100' blinds were introduced, iirc.

Anyhow, it was just an observation. Seeing as this is a timetabled short working, I wonder if others across the network would receive the same "update", if you will; perhaps 74E workings to West Bromwich could be updated to just show 74?

The "E" and "Part Route" are still on some destination blinds. It depends which one the driver displays. Although the next stop announcements don't work if the driver uses a "Part Route" blind from what I've noticed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mesub on June 06, 2019, 04:38:14 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 06, 2019, 03:05:05 PM
The "E" and "Part Route" are still on some destination blinds. It depends which one the driver displays. Although the next stop announcements don't work if the driver uses a "Part Route" blind from what I've noticed.
I'm pretty sure that inly affects the old announcement system. The 23E to woodgate (outbound) works all the way to Wood lane, where it then says that it terminates there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on June 06, 2019, 06:17:05 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 06, 2019, 03:05:05 PM
The "E" and "Part Route" are still on some destination blinds. It depends which one the driver displays. Although the next stop announcements don't work if the driver uses a "Part Route" blind from what I've noticed.
55/94 and 11 still display both "E" and "Part Route". University routes and X1/X2 still display "Part Route".

Announcements still work on the X1/X2 when a part route blind is used.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 06, 2019, 07:28:56 PM
Quote from: 2206 on June 06, 2019, 06:17:05 PM
55/94 and 11 still display both "E" and "Part Route". University routes and X1/X2 still display "Part Route".

Announcements still work on the X1/X2 when a part route blind is used.

@2206 I was referring to the ones on the Walsall Platinum blinds. As I've been on an X51 before which has used the "Walsall Part Route" blind and also a 935E to Kingstanding which used the "Kingstanding Part Route" blind, and the next stop announcements didn't work on both.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mesub on June 06, 2019, 09:53:35 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 06, 2019, 07:28:56 PM
@2206 I was referring to the ones on the Walsall Platinum blinds. As I've been on an X51 before which has used the "Walsall Part Route" blind and also a 935E to Kingstanding which used the "Kingstanding Part Route" blind, and the next stop announcements didn't work on both.
Are they still running on the old announcement system?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on June 07, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
Are the WA 67xx MMCs ever going to get USB charging points retrofitted?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 08, 2019, 01:23:24 AM
Quote from: mesub on June 06, 2019, 09:53:35 PM
Are they still running on the old announcement system?

No @mesub. They've updated to the new announcement system with the new voice.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 08, 2019, 11:52:28 PM
Why has Bloxwich Bulls Head stop been renamed Victoria Avenue? It's on the flags, X51 next stop announcements and app
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 09, 2019, 03:46:25 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 08, 2019, 11:52:28 PM
Why has Bloxwich Bulls Head stop been renamed Victoria Avenue? It's on the flags, X51 next stop announcements and app

Probably due to a process of elimination, plus it's the next road down & the Bulls Head doesn't exist now anyway!

Can't use High Street, as that will be the next stop down, can't use Park Road or Wolverhampton Road either.

Think Arriva's new timetables from end of this month also refer to 'Victoria Avenue' as well?

Don't think any other services say Victoria Avenue, unless its a gradual update?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 11, 2019, 04:24:30 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 06, 2019, 03:05:05 PM
The "E" and "Part Route" are still on some destination blinds. It depends which one the driver displays. Although the next stop announcements don't work if the driver uses a "Part Route" blind from what I've noticed.

Next stop announcement now says 997E instead of 997 for the short journey to Pheasey which you or somebody else pointed out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 11, 2019, 06:07:21 PM
Anyone know how the X51 extensions are doing? Arriva are evidently rattled....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 11, 2019, 06:17:04 PM
Quote from: Bob on June 11, 2019, 06:07:21 PM
Anyone know how the X51 extensions are doing? Arriva are evidently rattled....

It seems that way, as a large chunk of Arriva's service charges are putting more resources on & targeting new & older extensions in to Staffs (i.e. 10A & X51 plus competing on part of the NXWM 29).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 11, 2019, 08:25:14 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 11, 2019, 06:17:04 PM
It seems that way, as a large chunk of Arriva's service charges are putting more resources on & targeting new & older extensions in to Staffs (i.e. 10A & X51 plus competing on part of the NXWM 29).

Wonder why competing on the 29?

Surely they know Diamond didnt last the distance?

Wouldve thought the Blakenall to Walsall section of the 19 might have been better for Arriva, but if the 19 itself is tendered, that might have been a problem introducing a commercial service(assuming that 2 section now is!) on that bit, unless the Blakenall to Bloxwich section became a 29a?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on June 11, 2019, 10:52:30 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 11, 2019, 08:25:14 PM
Wonder why competing on the 29?

Surely they know Diamond didnt last the distance?

Wouldve thought the Blakenall to Walsall section of the 19 might have been better for Arriva, but if the 19 itself is tendered, that might have been a problem introducing a commercial service(assuming that 2 section now is!) on that bit, unless the Blakenall to Bloxwich section became a 29a?

Maybe a fightback for nx going on X51. Another option was possibly diverting the 2 at The Four croses/KFC right Leamore Lane serve Beechdale on the way to Walsall providing a link to Cannock.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 11, 2019, 11:12:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 11, 2019, 08:25:14 PM
Wonder why competing on the 29?

Surely they know Diamond didnt last the distance?

Wouldve thought the Blakenall to Walsall section of the 19 might have been better for Arriva, but if the 19 itself is tendered, that might have been a problem introducing a commercial service(assuming that 2 section now is!) on that bit, unless the Blakenall to Bloxwich section became a 29a?

They've just diverted a route via NXWM's 29, so not a separate route as per Diamond's version.

The Arriva changes may yet provoke a response NXWM with further extensions / amendments within Staffordshire. A nice little run in to Tamworth may be the order of the day for NX....

That said, with all the additional work they've won / taken on, I suspect NX need more of the new order before contemplating any further expansion
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 11, 2019, 11:36:19 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 11, 2019, 11:12:40 PM
They've just diverted a route via NXWM's 29, so not a separate route as per Diamond's version.

The Arriva changes may yet provoke a response NXWM with further extensions / amendments within Staffordshire. A nice little run in to Tamworth may be the order of the day for NX....

That said, with all the additional work they've won / taken on, I suspect NX need more of the new order before contemplating any further expansion

I could imagine NX taking over the 110 Birmingham - Tamworth route in the future. Perhaps as another express route - X11 maybe?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 11, 2019, 11:54:55 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 11, 2019, 11:36:19 PM
I could imagine NX taking over the 110 Birmingham - Tamworth route in the future. Perhaps as another express route - X11 maybe?

I don't know about taking over the 110, competing with it maybe.

Either through a new route in direct competition or an extension/variation of the existing X5 to offer new links / journey opportunities through to Tamworth.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 12, 2019, 07:27:33 AM
I've just received a message from a driver I know at Walsall stating that 4125 is apparently going out on the 31/32 today for it's first day in service. It will be entering service with the 07:57 32 from Walsall Bus Station and finishing with the 17:56 31 from Moseley back to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 12, 2019, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on June 11, 2019, 10:52:30 PM
Maybe a fightback for nx going on X51. Another option was possibly diverting the 2 at The Four croses/KFC right Leamore Lane serve Beechdale on the way to Walsall providing a link to Cannock.

Already asked Simon Dunn that one.

Was considered.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 12, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 11, 2019, 11:36:19 PM
I could imagine NX taking over the 110 Birmingham - Tamworth route in the future. Perhaps as another express route - X11 maybe?

In my opinion that would be unacceptable. Arriva have operated that service for years and years commercially. I certainly don't want nx taking or competing with them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 12, 2019, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 12, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
In my opinion that would be unacceptable. Arriva have operated that service for years and years commercially. I certainly don't want nx taking or competing with them

And? It's business..... it's a competitive market, operators need to keep on their toes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 12, 2019, 04:16:26 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 12, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
In my opinion that would be unacceptable. Arriva have operated that service for years and years commercially. I certainly don't want nx taking or competing with them

Why would it? Arriva never bothered much with Walsall to Cannock services in previous years then muscled in on Chase and NXWM using clapped out Dart midibuses initially. Its competition
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 12, 2019, 06:07:47 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 12, 2019, 07:27:33 AM
I've just received a message from a driver I know at Walsall stating that 4125 is apparently going out on the 31/32 today for it's first day in service. It will be entering service with the 07:57 32 from Walsall Bus Station and finishing with the 17:56 31 from Moseley back to Walsall.

Spotted it around half 4 in the bus station!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 12, 2019, 07:48:39 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 12, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
In my opinion that would be unacceptable. Arriva have operated that service for years and years commercially. I certainly don't want nx taking or competing with them

I'm not necessarily talking any hostility, even an agreement for NX to takeover the route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 12, 2019, 08:27:15 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 12, 2019, 07:48:39 PM
I'm not necessarily talking any hostility, even an agreement for NX to takeover the route.

I would imagine without the 110 Tamworth garage would be pretty much unviable....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on June 14, 2019, 08:26:48 AM
Quote from: Bob on June 12, 2019, 08:27:15 PM
I would imagine without the 110 Tamworth garage would be pretty much unviable....

Likewise without the 1/2 you'd imagine Cannock wouldn't survive
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 14, 2019, 08:53:13 AM
Quote from: Kevin on June 14, 2019, 08:26:48 AM
Likewise without the 1/2 you'd imagine Cannock wouldn't survive

Id think it could. Id imagine the 1 and 2 dont generate that much profits? Surely the Stafford services and the 60 would be bigger money spinners. They arent competing with a train service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 14, 2019, 09:54:58 AM
I can see why Arriva are worried . Just got on the 9.51 X51 in Cannock and it has an almost full load downstairs! Leaving nobody waiting for the following Arriva 1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 14, 2019, 12:26:18 PM
Hows Swift in Cannock affecting things?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 15, 2019, 09:23:46 PM
Another Trident on the 937A tonight in the form of 4608 on the 21:17 and 23:17 departures off Birmingham.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 15, 2019, 09:53:17 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 15, 2019, 09:23:46 PM
Another Trident on the 937A tonight in the form of 4608 on the 21:17 and 23:17 departures off Birmingham.
It was on the X51 earlier in the day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 20, 2019, 10:50:51 AM
Ive now changed my swift pass from train to nxwm so i can use X51 for work. I just hope they dont cancel it. On it now and the weekday loadings mid morning look dismal to say the least and could be even less when Arriva start their pathetic predatory behaviour in a couple of weeks!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 20, 2019, 06:14:42 PM
Quote from: Bob on June 20, 2019, 10:50:51 AM
Ive now changed my swift pass from train to nxwm so i can use X51 for work. I just hope they dont cancel it. On it now and the weekday loadings mid morning look dismal to say the least and could be even less when Arriva start their pathetic predatory behaviour in a couple of weeks!

I've seen it full and empty at various time of day, can't work out a pattern yet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 20, 2019, 06:30:34 PM
Noticed a Trident coming off Alumwell onto Pleck Road earlier, with a display of  a 700 series number plus a display showing 'NX Bus Garage - Bloxwich Road'.

That's new surely?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 20, 2019, 06:33:15 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 20, 2019, 06:30:34 PM
Noticed a Trident coming off Alumwell onto Pleck Road earlier, with a display of  a 700 series number plus a display showing 'NX Bus Garage - Bloxwich Road'.

That's new surely?

No, long standing school service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 20, 2019, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2019, 06:33:15 PM
No, long standing school service


Must admit I'm not usually going that way, but the 39 turned up first at James Bridge!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on June 22, 2019, 02:21:33 AM
Quote from: Westy on June 20, 2019, 06:30:34 PM
Noticed a Trident coming off Alumwell onto Pleck Road earlier, with a display of  a 700 series number plus a display showing 'NX Bus Garage - Bloxwich Road'.

That's new surely?
That would be the 700 school which comes from Grace Academy in alumwell and terminates at Carl street
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 24, 2019, 12:12:37 PM
Back onto the 'saga' of the X51 loadings & this morning the second from Cannock had a few extra passengers between Bloxwich & Walsall as the 32 timed around the same time failed to show.

(Unless Tony's 'box of tricks' says otherwise of course!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 25, 2019, 06:27:44 AM
First X51 never ran due to faulty wipers and drove off. Which means the traffic into brum will be a lot worse and ill be late!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on June 25, 2019, 06:59:05 AM
Quote from: Bob on June 25, 2019, 06:27:44 AM
First X51 never ran due to faulty wipers and drove off. Which means the traffic into brum will be a lot worse and ill be late!
Better to be safe then sorry
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on June 25, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Quote from: Bob on June 25, 2019, 06:27:44 AM
First X51 never ran due to faulty wipers and drove off. Which means the traffic into brum will be a lot worse and ill be late!

So do you want a driver to drive a defective vehicle in the rain?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 25, 2019, 12:53:03 PM
Quote from: Dom on June 25, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
So do you want a driver to drive a defective vehicle in the rain?

He didn't say that did he, he was just stating a fact
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 25, 2019, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on June 25, 2019, 12:53:03 PM
He didn't say that did he, he was just stating a fact

It was just a pain in the bum that was all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ash on June 30, 2019, 06:43:41 PM
Look to be 1898 with the fire brigade behind it and engine cover open by the Hargate Arms in West Bromwich could be precautionary though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 30, 2019, 07:36:25 PM
Quote from: Ash on June 30, 2019, 06:43:41 PM
Look to be 1898 with the fire brigade behind it and engine cover open by the Hargate Arms in West Bromwich could be precautionary though.

Have any vehicles actually overheated this time round?

Last year, I was on an 11 / 11a that had to stop in Wednesbury BS for a few mins because of that.

(Think that was a Scania as well. I was on one on the Darlaston corridor one morning last week & the doors were having trouble closing, to the point the driver had to radio for advice. Always seems to be Scanias that have a problem. Don't remember other types having door issues!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 01, 2019, 11:43:57 AM
Anybody know about the 'revised timetable' on the X51 from 21st July? Hope they aren't cutting back Cannock.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on July 01, 2019, 11:52:37 AM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on July 01, 2019, 11:43:57 AM
Anybody know about the 'revised timetable' on the X51 from 21st July? Hope they aren't cutting back Cannock.

Summer holiday timetable only
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 01, 2019, 04:55:35 PM
4346 out on the 77.

Didn't it know it was in Greatest  Hits  Radio livery!

(Don't recall it  being  flagged  as  such  in the  reprints thread!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 01, 2019, 08:17:44 PM
Is Arriva's desperate retiming of the 1 having any effect on the X51?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 01, 2019, 08:19:11 PM
Saw what i thought was an X51 heading through Bloxwich completely empty about 2.15 ish
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 01, 2019, 11:05:42 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 01, 2019, 08:17:44 PM
Is Arriva's desperate retiming of the 1 having any effect on the X51?

Both look fairly evenly split between the two. Can't imagine it will make much difference as people paying to use the X51 will continue paying. They have no incentive to swap to paying for the number 1. The only people they may gain back is concessionary pass users who can get on whichever arrives first.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: windy miller on July 04, 2019, 02:05:44 PM
   I have seen what looked to be a trident in the old walsall blue colours with the walsall logo on the side  it carries the number 4601 in large digits and has a BX54 prefix   I have seen it twice in sutton marked 'not in service'??? is this bus in private ownership? ???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on July 04, 2019, 02:22:25 PM
Quote from: windy miller on July 04, 2019, 02:05:44 PM
   I have seen what looked to be a trident in the old walsall blue colours with the walsall logo on the side  it carries the number 4601 in large digits and has a BX54 prefix   I have seen it twice in sutton marked 'not in service'??? is this bus in private ownership? ???

No.  It's been in those colours for over 12 months as is still part of NXWM WA active fleet:
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4475-4699/4601.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 04, 2019, 04:48:13 PM
Quote from: windy miller on July 04, 2019, 02:05:44 PM
   I have seen what looked to be a trident in the old walsall blue colours with the walsall logo on the side  it carries the number 4601 in large digits and has a BX54 prefix   I have seen it twice in sutton marked 'not in service'??? is this bus in private ownership? ???

It is a proper Nx owned vehicle.

Suspect it's been on a 77 beforehand.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: windy miller on July 05, 2019, 11:46:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 04, 2019, 04:48:13 PM
It is a proper Nx owned vehicle.

Suspect it's been on a 77 beforehand.

  Thanks for the info.  I obviously had not seen it in service.  funnily enough I saw a WB 5 yesterday in the old West brom corpn colours of yellow and blue  41xx ?I think  I hope they prove to be candidates for ultimate preservation.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 05, 2019, 12:39:19 PM
How long is the contract for Greatest Hits Radio on 4346 on for?

Will it get repainted in red & white or likely to be withdrawn in GHR livery?

In fact, is it a proper repaint or 'wrapped'?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 05, 2019, 12:54:44 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 05, 2019, 12:39:19 PM
How long is the contract for Greatest Hits Radio on 4346 on for?

Will it get repainted in red & white or likely to be withdrawn in GHR livery?

In fact, is it a proper repaint or 'wrapped'?

It's a wrap, as per all the other vehicles that have had the adverts fitted
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on July 05, 2019, 07:32:41 PM
Quote from: windy miller on July 05, 2019, 11:46:14 AM
  Thanks for the info.  I obviously had not seen it in service.  funnily enough I saw a WB 5 yesterday in the old West brom corpn colours of yellow and blue  41xx ?I think  I hope they prove to be candidates for ultimate preservation.
@windy miller It is Gemini 4679 in the West Brom colours as 4651 is in BCT colours too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on July 05, 2019, 11:41:52 PM
Quote from: windy miller on July 04, 2019, 02:05:44 PM
   I have seen what looked to be a trident in the old walsall blue colours with the walsall logo on the side  it carries the number 4601 in large digits and has a BX54 prefix   I have seen it twice in sutton marked 'not in service'??? is this bus in private ownership? ???
no its owned by nx used to be 10/10A branded before the 10A got extended to lichfield
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on July 06, 2019, 11:10:07 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on July 05, 2019, 11:41:52 PM
no its owned by nx used to be 10/10A branded before the 10A got extended to lichfield

And 529 branded before that, which is where the pink branding originated, since the 10/10A retained it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 16, 2019, 06:11:57 PM
Does anyome think theyll consider re routing the X51 back through Cheslyn Hay? Could be missing a trick there, itd provide a much more direct service to Walsall than Arriva's insane changes to the 2 and miss out the sometimes pretty bad traffic on A5 ( particulatly Brum bound direction)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: j789 on July 16, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 16, 2019, 06:11:57 PM
Does anyome think theyll consider re routing the X51 back through Cheslyn Hay? Could be missing a trick there, itd provide a much more direct service to Walsall than Arriva's insane changes to the 2 and miss out the sometimes pretty bad traffic on A5 ( particulatly Brum bound direction)

To really put pressure on Arriva they could renumber every second x51 as a x52 with that following the 2 route to Cannock and the x51 continuing to follow its current route. Would mean a bus to Cannock from NXWM every 10 mins which I think would soon see off Arriva on that route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 16, 2019, 09:31:16 PM
Quote from: j789 on July 16, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
To really put pressure on Arriva they could renumber every second x51 as a x52 with that following the 2 route to Cannock and the x51 continuing to follow its current route. Would mean a bus to Cannock from NXWM every 10 mins which I think would soon see off Arriva on that route.

Due to.the new shopping village being built theyre closing the lichfield road for 2 mths shortly which will massively increase the traffic through churchbridge/bridgtown which could cause delays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 16, 2019, 10:36:49 PM
Quote from: j789 on July 16, 2019, 09:09:00 PM
To really put pressure on Arriva they could renumber every second x51 as a x52 with that following the 2 route to Cannock and the x51 continuing to follow its current route. Would mean a bus to Cannock from NXWM every 10 mins which I think would soon see off Arriva on that route.

There's no chance that would happen. Plus when Landywood railway bridge closes for works (at some point?!) it will have to go the current route anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 17, 2019, 12:36:04 PM
Does anyone know the name of someone high up at NXWM who I could contact.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on July 17, 2019, 12:55:20 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on July 17, 2019, 12:36:04 PM
Does anyone know the name of someone high up at NXWM who I could contact.

Go through Tony for starters.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on July 17, 2019, 01:18:51 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on July 17, 2019, 12:36:04 PM
Does anyone know the name of someone high up at NXWM who I could contact.

What area do you need to speak to?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 17, 2019, 03:55:46 PM
4607, 4608 and 4609 are all on the X51/997(E) today on all day boards.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 17, 2019, 10:18:43 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on July 17, 2019, 01:18:51 PM
What area do you need to speak to?

Someone that oversees routes and network
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 19, 2019, 10:31:01 AM
I would imagine travelling up the A34 will be the death of the X51. Caught 10.11 from cannock and we have not left bridgetown yet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 19, 2019, 10:36:17 AM
Quote from: Bob on July 19, 2019, 10:31:01 AM
I would imagine travelling up the A34 will be the death of the X51. Caught 10.11 from cannock and we have not left bridgetown yet

Standard everywhere in Cannock at the moment with Lichfield Road shut.

It took my daughter twice as long in a car from my house to Cannock Wednesday evening as it does for me to walk it normally
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 19, 2019, 11:02:02 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 19, 2019, 10:36:17 AM
Standard everywhere in Cannock at the moment with Lichfield Road shut.

It took my daughter twice as long in a car from my house to Cannock Wednesday evening as it does for me to walk it normally

Its ridiculous. I hope this designer village is worth it. Hows the X51 doing? Hard to gauge sometimes it has more on than arriva other times not but neither seem to have many passengers. Im imagining the situation cant last and itll end up with who blinks first. Id imagine the 2 is sufferong bad losses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on July 26, 2019, 08:45:20 PM
What exactly is the 937B? Never seen that before.

Registration number PD0001111/648
Licence Number PD0001111
Variation number 17
Status Registered
Service number. 934, 934, 935, 936, 937, 937A, 937B
Service type Normal Stopping
Start point Walsall to Birmingham
Finish point Walsall to Birmingham
Via Streetly and Kingstanding
Date received 18 Jul 2019
Effective date 21 Jul 2019
End date 31 Aug 2019
Supported by subsidies? No
Local authorities covered by route West Midlands Combined Authority (WMCA)
Staffordshire County Council
TAOs covered by route West Midlands
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 26, 2019, 09:14:07 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on July 26, 2019, 08:45:20 PM
What exactly is the 937B? Never seen that before.

Registration number PD0001111/648
Licence Number PD0001111
Variation number 17
Status Registered
Service number. 934, 934, 935, 936, 937, 937A, 937B
Service type Normal Stopping
Start point Walsall to Birmingham
Finish point Walsall to Birmingham
Via Streetly and Kingstanding
Date received 18 Jul 2019
Effective date 21 Jul 2019
End date 31 Aug 2019
Supported by subsidies? No
Local authorities covered by route West Midlands Combined Authority (WMCA)
Staffordshire County Council
TAOs covered by route West Midlands

The Boney Hay trips, although they just display 937 on the blind.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 26, 2019, 09:36:51 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 26, 2019, 09:14:07 PM
The Boney Hay trips, although they just display 937 on the blind.

They should call it 937B the same as they should have called it X51A when it was a limited peak time service to Cannock.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 26, 2019, 09:42:14 PM
What is the reason behind the 4/4H/4M having next stop announcements? And why haven't they done this on other routes?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 27, 2019, 11:32:22 AM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on July 26, 2019, 09:42:14 PM
What is the reason behind the 4/4H/4M having next stop announcements? And why haven't they done this on other routes?
The 4H announcements only work up until Halesowen bus station. And a few of them don't work: 1851, 1862 and 1879 are ones I can think of.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BH2004 on July 29, 2019, 07:49:36 PM
Has 4868 been branded for the 51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on July 29, 2019, 08:04:25 PM
I didn't know what thread to put this question in. Did nx have to buy the new hanover font @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 29, 2019, 08:06:24 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on July 29, 2019, 08:04:25 PM
I didn't know what thread to put this question in. Did nx have to buy the new hanover font @Tony

A contractor does all the destinations, and provides them on memory sticks for garages to update buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on July 30, 2019, 12:39:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 29, 2019, 08:06:24 PM
A contractor does all the destinations, and provides them on memory sticks for garages to update buses

The new font looks remarkable like Arial - is it @Tony ???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 08, 2019, 09:29:31 AM
If it's of interest to anyone, there is now a booked Platinum journey on the 32 over the six weeks holiday. There is a 934 board that does the 08:59 32 from Lower Farm, and 09:27 32 from Walsall. It's 6714 this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 03:28:36 PM
I have been in contact with TfWM asking why the Hatherton Road stand (WD) for Cannock services doesn't have a real-time departure screen. They told me it doesn't have a nearby power supply which is a lame excuse given they are spending £680,000 on refurbing the bus station. It's not much to ask!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2019, 03:38:35 PM
I presume you have had a quote and know how much council tax money would be needed to provide it then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 05:45:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2019, 03:38:35 PM
I presume you have had a quote and know how much council tax money would be needed to provide it then

I was hoping for a sarcastic comment and you didn't let me down. They are spending nearly £700,000 but cant fit an additional display with a cable to the nearest point.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2019, 06:09:02 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 05:45:18 PM
I was hoping for a sarcastic comment and you didn't let me down. They are spending nearly £700,000 but cant fit an additional display with a cable to the nearest point.

Where's the nearest point then?
How long has the pavement got to be dug up for?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 07:55:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2019, 06:09:02 PM
Where's the nearest point then?
How long has the pavement got to be dug up for?

That's up to them to sort out with their £700,000 and skilled workforce. If I asked for Greggs to bring out a new pastie I wouldn't expect to be asked for the recipe or costs.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2019, 08:12:40 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 07:55:17 PM
That's up to them to sort out with their £700,000 and skilled workforce. If I asked for Greggs to bring out a new pastie I wouldn't expect to be asked for the recipe or costs.

You really haven't a clue have you.
TfWM don't employ people who dig roads up. They have to pay contractors which can run to 6 figures.
Why don't you go and ask Greggs to bring out a new pasty and see what answer you get
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 08:51:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 08, 2019, 08:12:40 PM
You really haven't a clue have you.
TfWM don't employ people who dig roads up. They have to pay contractors which can run to 6 figures.
Why don't you go and ask Greggs to bring out a new pasty and see what answer you get

Why are you so sarcastic and rude to members on your forum? It's really not very nice. Rather than be so rude about it all you needed to say was the second line of your previous message.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on August 08, 2019, 09:42:19 PM
Tbh, I can see both sides of the argument, yes it would cost quite a bit to do it as a stand alone project due to contractors, etc, fees.

On the other hand it is seen by most as an extension of the bus station, and not having RTI or similar on a stand used by numerous buses is a poor showing.

Really, the services that use that stand should be forced to use the bus station (in the case of Cannock bound services - maybe in the same row as the 31/32 perhaps?) Or that stand should have been included as part of the bus station improvements to improve passenger facilities.

In reality though, both local and national governments have been forced to go down a path of austerity thanks to the Conservatives, a path which Britain did not need to go down.

There again, the Conservatives do have a habit of cutting things/forcing others to do their dirty work by funding it and then blaming local government/others when cuts come swinging.

At least labour spent money where it was needed, not leaving councils on the verge of going bust (such as Northamptonshire!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 08, 2019, 09:42:19 PM
Tbh, I can see both sides of the argument, yes it would cost quite a bit to do it as a stand alone project due to contractors, etc, fees.

On the other hand it is seen by most as an extension of the bus station, and not having RTI or similar on a stand used by numerous buses is a poor showing.

Really, the services that use that stand should be forced to use the bus station (in the case of Cannock bound services - maybe in the same row as the 31/32 perhaps?) Or that stand should have been included as part of the bus station improvements to improve passenger facilities.

In reality though, both local and national governments have been forced to go down a path of austerity thanks to the Conservatives, a path which Britain did not need to go down.

There again, the Conservatives do have a habit of cutting things/forcing others to do their dirty work by funding it and then blaming local government/others when cuts come swinging.

At least labour spent money where it was needed, not leaving councils on the verge of going bust (such as Northamptonshire!)

Thanks this is the kind of comment I was actually hoping for! Now is the best time to do it I should think, while contractors are doing other jobs on the station. They did try to get the number 1 and 2 in the main bus station but they didn't fit (source for Tony: Simon at Arriva) which is a shame as they'd be more likely to pick people up going to Bloxwich.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on August 08, 2019, 09:57:36 PM
Is Arriva's desperate re hash of the number 1 ( despite not having anywhere near enough Sapphire buses for it and use of tat daily)causing any issues with stand blocking etc either end? Somethings surely got to give, Arriva must be losing a lot of money, especially on the 2 with its insane rerouting and journey time!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: Bob on August 08, 2019, 09:57:36 PM
Is Arriva's desperate re hash of the number 1 ( despite not having anywhere near enough Sapphire buses for it and use of tat daily)causing any issues with stand blocking etc either end? Somethings surely got to give, Arriva must be losing a lot of money, especially on the 2 with its insane rerouting and journey time!

Very often two buses by the Job Centre at a time but doesn't block the main bus station. Cannock end as you know the 1 and X51 depart together bar 1 minute so yes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 08, 2019, 10:07:57 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 08, 2019, 03:28:36 PM
I have been in contact with TfWM asking why the Hatherton Road stand (WD) for Cannock services doesn't have a real-time departure screen. They told me it doesn't have a nearby power supply which is a lame excuse given they are spending £680,000 on refurbing the bus station. It's not much to ask!
There must be thousands of passengers who use the hundreds of bus stops without RTI screens across the West Midlands, every single day and they all seem to manage fine. My local stop on the Washwood Heath Road doesn't have one, the only ones that have one on this corridor are at Saltley Gate & Fox & Goose I think. You could just download an app on your phone to check when the bus is coming, if you wanted to know.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 09, 2019, 12:25:41 PM
Isn't there any services that could swop, to get all the Bloxwich Road routes together?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 09, 2019, 04:30:42 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 08, 2019, 10:07:57 PM
There must be thousands of passengers who use the hundreds of bus stops without RTI screens across the West Midlands, every single day and they all seem to manage fine. My local stop on the Washwood Heath Road doesn't have one, the only ones that have one on this corridor are at Saltley Gate & Fox & Goose I think. You could just download an app on your phone to check when the bus is coming, if you wanted to know.

There's a difference between a general stop and a bus station stand. The amount of people mostly elderly that stand looking at the paper timetable. Just a thought considering the 700,000 budget.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on August 14, 2019, 12:04:02 AM
It looks like Walsall have a couple of new school services being introduced from the 1st of September. The 837 is a new route which I believe will run along the same route as the 159C, however it'll additionally be serving Aldridge School as well as St. Francis of Assisi. Walsall will also be running into the Tamworth area too with two school services running from Wilnecote to St. Francis of Assisi. One will be running via Fazeley and the other one will be running via Amington, Tamworth Railway Station and Hopwas. All timetables for these services are on the NX website.


SFA1/SFA2:

https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2019-Timetables/1st-Sept-2019/wSFA1_SFA_2_010919.pdf

837:

https://nxbus.co.uk/files/NX-West-Midlands/current_timetables/2019-Timetables/1st-Sept-2019/b837_010919.pdf
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Roy on August 14, 2019, 11:35:23 AM
934-936 branded 6752 was parked at Merry Hill Bus Station at 10:30 and left out of service shortly afterwards.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on September 05, 2019, 09:10:29 AM
808 has just passed me in Bloxwich on a 32.. Unsure whether this is a loan or transfer, hence posting here
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on September 05, 2019, 09:39:08 AM
Quote from: CL on September 05, 2019, 09:10:29 AM
808 has just passed me in Bloxwich on a 32.. Unsure whether this is a loan or transfer, hence posting here

I assume possibly a transfer, replaced by 2234 @ WB
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 05, 2019, 10:28:53 AM
Quote from: Winston on September 05, 2019, 09:39:08 AM
I assume possibly a transfer, replaced by 2234 @ WB

807 & 808 are transfers to Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on September 07, 2019, 12:43:14 AM
X51 and 934 (and presumably all the rest) platinums have next stop names on the downstairs screen now like they used to.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on September 08, 2019, 12:01:35 PM
Random question, could I ask why I'm assuming the 0100 hrs from city on the 51 going towards Walsall on the section m6 to Walsall; why would the driver not use the dedicated bus lane section even when in service ???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 08, 2019, 12:13:55 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on September 08, 2019, 12:01:35 PM
Random question, could I ask why I'm assuming the 0100 hrs from city on the 51 going towards Walsall on the section m6 to Walsall; why would the driver not use the dedicated bus lane section even when in service ???
Otherwise it would miss out two bus stops... Lochranza Croft and The Post House stops.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on September 08, 2019, 12:44:24 PM
I was driving in the car and I still don't understand why he wouldn't stick to the bus section ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 08, 2019, 01:36:31 PM
Was this by the bus gates either at The Bell or chapel lane. Could be because a long wait in traffic lights 🚥 sequence.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on September 08, 2019, 01:47:03 PM
It was that bit, that makes sense.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 08, 2019, 02:25:26 PM
The bus gates towards city if your in a line of buses and it goes red that the bus will have to wait until a bus behind comes to change the traffic lights. That's why if a bus is already there it may miss it out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 08, 2019, 07:10:44 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 08, 2019, 02:25:26 PM
The bus gates towards city if your in a line of buses and it goes red that the bus will have to wait until a bus behind comes to change the traffic lights. That's why if a bus is already there it may miss it out.
The two Sandwell ones are awful anyway. Buses are suppose to have priority, the ones at Chapel Lane make the bus wait longer at times. And the other one when you're coming from the bridge is quite bad. Cars often get confused and wait on a red light when that red light is for the bus lane only.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 08, 2019, 07:29:23 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 08, 2019, 02:25:26 PM
The bus gates towards city if your in a line of buses and it goes red that the bus will have to wait until a bus behind comes to change the traffic lights. That's why if a bus is already there it may miss it out.

I've got that sorted now. There was a detector for stationary vehicles which was defective, but it has been fixed now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 11, 2019, 12:54:34 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on September 11, 2019, 12:47:34 PM
Crikey, won't last long on the Beechdale!!!!

@Wumpty Platinums get onto late night 70's daily in the week, as one comes off an X51 board. So I'm sure if a Platinum can survive late night 70's, it can survive a day on there...  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 11, 2019, 07:38:15 PM
Bit of a random question but have the 4 branded Omnilinks had their announcements removed? Because the majority of the ones that did work just display 'National Express West Midlands'.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on September 17, 2019, 04:36:08 PM
Is Nbus valid on the X51 from Cannock?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on September 17, 2019, 04:53:16 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on September 17, 2019, 04:36:08 PM
Is Nbus valid on the X51 from Cannock?
No, I don't believe it is.. Here's the nBus & nxbus travelcard area maps :)

https://static.centro.org.uk/nwmAssets/apps/ticketing-swift/build/img//nbus_nnetworkMap.png
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/miscellaneous/operating-area
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 17, 2019, 04:53:38 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on September 17, 2019, 04:36:08 PM
Is Nbus valid on the X51 from Cannock?

No. Nbus has never been valid in Cannock. It's only valid upto the Walsall & South Staffordshire border on the A34 just after Bloxwich.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on September 17, 2019, 07:51:19 PM
@BusMan Greg come in, pull your self together, you should know that the nbus isn't valid in Cannock lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on September 26, 2019, 03:58:06 PM
Platinum bus on the 31 Walsall - Mossley. Not seen that before.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 26, 2019, 04:15:39 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on September 26, 2019, 03:58:06 PM
Platinum bus on the 31 Walsall - Mossley. Not seen that before.

6724. Noteworthy but it has happened numerous times previously.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 26, 2019, 05:33:20 PM
Wasn't there a 32 journey operated by one last year?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 26, 2019, 09:37:30 PM
If the journey was around 0930 from Walsall it it was a 701 board doing one daily full round trip.

As regards to the 32 the 302 back in 2015 did have a platinum booked for half a trip. This was soon changed about6 weeks after to a 36 board.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on September 26, 2019, 11:02:14 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 26, 2019, 09:37:30 PM
If the journey was around 0930 from Walsall it it was a 701 board doing one daily full round trip.

As regards to the 32 the 302 back in 2015 did have a platinum booked for half a trip. This was soon changed about6 weeks after to a 36 board.

It was the time posted 3:50pm ish so probably was a school bus prior. There was a single decker on the X51 too which I've not seen before... the are the wrong way round lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Vulcan on September 29, 2019, 08:50:47 PM
Question my son asked me, why the 10&10A Walsall. Burntwood  Lichfield run saloons all day then deckers in evening & most of weekends
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 29, 2019, 10:05:03 PM
Quote from: Vulcan on September 29, 2019, 08:50:47 PM
Question my son asked me, why the 10&10A Walsall. Burntwood  Lichfield run saloons all day then deckers in evening & most of weekends

Sundays, they use the most fuel efficient buses, which is why you get Scanias, E200s & the E400 range of buses only, apart from the buses used on the 31/32, as the Diamond versions are similar.

Rest of the week, god knows.

(Tony's gonna say I'm wrong now, ain't he?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on September 30, 2019, 10:13:46 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 29, 2019, 10:05:03 PM
Sundays, they use the most fuel efficient buses, which is why you get Scanias, E200s & the E400 range of buses only, apart from the buses used on the 31/32, as the Diamond versions are similar.

Rest of the week, god knows.

(Tony's gonna say I'm wrong now, ain't he?)

There are usually at least a couple of double deckers during the day, presumably they're allocated to boards that cover the busiest rush hour trips, and happen to be boards that stay out late.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Vulcan on September 30, 2019, 03:01:29 PM
The 10 & 10A certainly don't need deckers for capacity on an evening & weekends !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 04, 2019, 06:56:30 PM
4601 has finally made a return to the road. It's on the 6 this evening as a change bus for 4607.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 04, 2019, 09:05:00 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 04, 2019, 06:56:30 PM
4601 has finally made a return to the road. It's on the 6 this evening as a change bus for 4607.

It returned yesterday on W7 but broke down on 1310 departure.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: darthdc on October 05, 2019, 06:20:50 PM
Does 6738 still have a name? Photographed it today in Bull Street (X51) and there was no name on the front. Didn't check the rear.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 06, 2019, 01:12:09 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on October 04, 2019, 09:05:00 PM
It returned yesterday on W7 but broke down on 1310 departure.
I know abit late but it was due the day before that on the 701 school
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 07, 2019, 09:18:25 AM
Quote from: darthdc on October 05, 2019, 06:20:50 PM
Does 6738 still have a name? Photographed it today in Bull Street (X51) and there was no name on the front. Didn't check the rear.

Yes it does @darthdc. The name on it is "Lois Faith". It's missing the name on the front as it was involved in an RTC quite some time ago. For some reason, the name was never put back on after the vehicle had been repaired.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: darthdc on October 07, 2019, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 07, 2019, 09:18:25 AM
Yes it does @darthdc. The name on it is "Lois Faith". It's missing the name on the front as it was involved in an RTC quite some time ago. For some reason, the name was never put back on after the vehicle had been repaired.

I've noticed a few buses in the short time I've been spotting, that are missing the names on the front. In my neighbourhood, I've noticed that 6908 is now missing the name on the front. There is a single decker that runs from YW that has a slightly different name on the front (1914 Grace Isobel - Grace Christine on the front).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 17, 2019, 06:03:00 PM
Are we short of a Platinum at Walsall?

Have seen a 46xx & normal E400's on the odd Platinum route lately?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 21, 2019, 07:08:40 PM
Is the X51 doing ok now? Considering the shambles of the train service currently i would hope so!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 21, 2019, 09:59:20 PM
Quote from: Bob on October 21, 2019, 07:08:40 PM
Is the X51 doing ok now? Considering the shambles of the train service currently i would hope so!

Dunno  about  the Cannock section,  but it does come in useful if a 31/32 is running late!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 23, 2019, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: CL on October 23, 2019, 02:04:42 PM
4607 - WA10A

This is a daily occurance buddy 👍. There are at least two double deck booked running boards.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on October 23, 2019, 04:06:05 PM
Quote from: Nathan on October 23, 2019, 03:50:09 PM
This is a daily occurance buddy 👍. There are at least two double deck booked running boards.
Noted :) Cheers

Was just going off the spreadsheet - 4854 was another decker on there, today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on October 23, 2019, 04:12:01 PM
Quote from: CL on October 23, 2019, 04:06:05 PM
Noted :) Cheers

Was just going off the spreadsheet - 4854 was another decker on there, today

I assumed it was on there already. Just thought i'd give you a heads up :)

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 26, 2019, 03:09:32 PM
Noted recently 860's display is now working, as it used to display gobbledgook not so long back.

Was the original display fixed, or was a new unit installed?

(Guessing it was a loose wire?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on October 27, 2019, 11:13:09 AM
has the 45 transferred to walsall now with 1909-1912 going?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on October 27, 2019, 11:17:05 AM
Quote from: cris 99 on October 27, 2019, 11:13:09 AM
has the 45 transferred to walsall now with 1909-1912 going?

Yes however WB will Still be Operating Late Night trips and Two Early Morning Weekday trips.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on October 27, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Many thanx for that mate
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BN on October 27, 2019, 11:32:12 AM
Quote from: cris 99 on October 27, 2019, 11:13:09 AM
has the 45 transferred to walsall now with 1909-1912 going?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ash on October 27, 2019, 12:46:14 PM
4 branded 1857 making an appearance on the 45 along with 2x 57 reg omnilinks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 29, 2019, 05:29:35 PM
Id imagine the X51 has done well today given the joke of a train service!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2019, 05:48:22 PM
Quote from: Bob on October 29, 2019, 05:29:35 PM
Id imagine the X51 has done well today given the joke of a train service!

I'm currently sat on 6730 which left Walsall to Cannock fully seated and some standing passengers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on October 29, 2019, 05:55:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2019, 05:48:22 PM
I'm currently sat on 6730 which left Walsall to Cannock fully seated and some standing passengers

Doing very well then!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2019, 06:35:34 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 29, 2019, 05:55:23 PM
Doing very well then!

Except it will be a nominal payment off WMT for accepting all their train Passengers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on October 29, 2019, 06:42:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2019, 05:48:22 PM
I'm currently sat on 6730 which left Walsall to Cannock fully seated and some standing passengers

I got on it from Great Wyrley to an appointment in Cannock and I was suprised to see it so full. The only problem with the X51 is the traffic on the A5 in Bridgtown which is annoying but not their fault. There's no timetables along there either if anyone on here works for NX can you pass it on.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 29, 2019, 10:01:12 PM
Hows the X51 doing generally? Are they planning to keep it going? Its obviously had an effect on the 1 and 2
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 09, 2019, 02:53:37 PM
Any reason why the '997E' has just randomly gone? Off the flags, RTI's and buses themselves. Yet they now just display '997 Pheasey' which is just confusing for people who want to travel past the Pheasey... Been a number of times people have been turfed off at the Deers Leap who want to go past there now since they no longer display 997E.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 09, 2019, 03:39:16 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 09, 2019, 02:53:37 PM
Any reason why the '997E' has just randomly gone? Off the flags, RTI's and buses themselves. Yet they now just display '997 Pheasey' which is just confusing for people who want to travel past the Pheasey... Been a number of times people have been turfed off at the Deers Leap who want to go past there now since they no longer display 997E.

It's not confusing. People don't read the destination, only looking at the number. Same with the X4 Lodge with announcements people expect you to go to Asda
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on November 09, 2019, 04:14:55 PM
Quote from: John on November 09, 2019, 03:39:16 PM
It's not confusing. People don't read the destination, only looking at the number. Same with the X4 Lodge with announcements people expect you to go to Asda

It was changed they announced it on their website. I agree with the above they need to read the front of the bus its there for a reason. You could say the same about the X51 with Cannock. You only need it for untimetabled changes really, like the 529E someone spotted once.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 09, 2019, 05:24:58 PM
I thought 'Part Journey' was on the displays for a reason?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on November 09, 2019, 06:33:05 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 09, 2019, 05:24:58 PM
I thought 'Part Journey' was on the displays for a reason?
Quote from: John on November 09, 2019, 03:39:16 PM
It's not confusing. People don't read the destination, only looking at the number. Same with the X4 Lodge with announcements people expect you to go to Asda
A small number of people on the 11 still expect the bus to carry on even when it displays both "11E" and "Part Route".
Seen it loads of times on the 11, for example when an 11A terminates at Fox and Goose, someone will always still be sat down expecting it to carry on towards  Erdington. For some reason a few people don't read the displays.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 09, 2019, 07:59:47 PM
Yes it is confusing... the 'E'  on the display clearly marked it was going to the Pheasey... now that's gone everyone thinks every 997 goes to Walsall, and hardly anyone pay attention to announcements.

On another hand people were on the X51 today and had a row with the driver over not stopping on Newtown Row... people will never learn...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: John on November 09, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 09, 2019, 07:59:47 PM
Yes it is confusing... the 'E'  on the display clearly marked it was going to the Pheasey... now that's gone everyone thinks every 997 goes to Walsall, and hardly anyone pay attention to announcements.

On another hand people were on the X51 today and had a row with the driver over not stopping on Newtown Row... people will never learn...

Pheasey as the destination is clearly showing where the bus is terminating. People don't pay any attention to this. Its not confusing if you read the destination of the bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on November 09, 2019, 11:44:39 PM
It is confusing just saying Pheasey as 997's have been known to turn short at the church which is not distinguished from the dears leap.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on November 10, 2019, 08:17:13 AM
I think people just need to learn to read the displays... I haven't ever seen anyone have an issue with the WB42 terminating short at Tipton.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on November 10, 2019, 08:26:54 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on November 09, 2019, 11:44:39 PM
It is confusing just saying Pheasey as 997's have been known to turn short at the church which is not distinguished from the dears leap.

A simple solution with the 997E would be to renumber the Pheasey journeys 998. The 99x buses via Kingstanding were renumbered to fit in with the old 998 City to Pheasey which had been a long-standing route. The short journeys run throughout most of the day, 7 days a week, so it's not like they are an 'E'xception to the normal route, they're the norm. No shortage of spare route numbers in the 99x series either.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busboy105 on November 10, 2019, 09:21:09 PM
Quote from: Mike K on November 10, 2019, 08:26:54 PM
A simple solution with the 997E would be to renumber the Pheasey journeys 998. The 99x buses via Kingstanding were renumbered to fit in with the old 998 City to Pheasey which had been a long-standing route. The short journeys run throughout most of the day, 7 days a week, so it's not like they are an 'E'xception to the normal route, they're the norm. No shortage of spare route numbers in the 99x series either.
Or even three digit numbers for that matter. Can't remember the last time a new route that has come about that has been given a number above 100. But you don't need me to know how I feel about there being 3-4 iterations of the same number in the West Midlands excluding Coventry.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on November 10, 2019, 10:11:29 PM
Won't the 93*s and 997 be renumbered with an X prefix at some point
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busboy105 on November 10, 2019, 10:34:29 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 10, 2019, 10:11:29 PM
Won't the 93*s and 997 be renumbered with an X prefix at some point
Considering that the rest of the 9** services have been given that treatment I assume so. The 301 and 302 were only renumbered last year remember.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on November 10, 2019, 11:44:06 PM
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 10, 2019, 10:11:29 PM
Won't the 93*s and 997 be renumbered with an X prefix at some point

Quite possibly so. If that were the case it would still be no issue to give the Pheasey 997s a different number to the full route ones.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 11, 2019, 08:26:36 AM
Quote from: John on November 09, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
Pheasey as the destination is clearly showing where the bus is terminating. People don't pay any attention to this. Its not confusing if you read the destination of the bus

Agree John - the information on the new LED destination displays is far better than the ambiguous roller blinds that used to show numbered 'E' workings with no destination displayed at all!

Whilst having all of this information is useful to passengers, I still believe we need passenger buy-in to this with some form of common sense. Failing that, just ask the driver when it stops.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on November 11, 2019, 09:21:48 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 11, 2019, 08:26:36 AM
Agree John - the information on the new LED destination displays is far better than the ambiguous roller blinds that used to show numbered 'E' workings with no destination displayed at all!

The best ambiguous roller blinds were on routes such as the 405E where the B6s would display Circular Service with no clarifier on where to on them
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 11, 2019, 10:57:31 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 11, 2019, 09:21:48 AM
The best ambiguous roller blinds were on routes such as the 405E where the B6s would display Circular Service with no clarifier on where to on them

Many of the Walsall drivers on E workings would use the lower blind only. On a 373E it would show 'via Blakenall' - a couple of the old Track drivers said they'd put the VIA blind up a sit could run via Blakenall to any part of it - the upper blind would define it as terminating at the acknowledged timing point.

Still, much better than Birmingham Coach Company displaying only 'Service' on the blinds!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on November 11, 2019, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 11, 2019, 10:57:31 AM
Many of the Walsall drivers on E workings would use the lower blind only. On a 373E it would show 'via Blakenall' - a couple of the old Track drivers said they'd put the VIA blind up a sit could run via Blakenall to any part of it - the upper blind would define it as terminating at the acknowledged timing point.

Still, much better than Birmingham Coach Company displaying only 'Service' on the blinds!

Or Pete's who would sometime just display the route number
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on November 18, 2019, 08:21:09 PM
Will Walsalls platinums receive USB ports like their sisters?

I wouldn't be surprised if Walsall will get a newer batch of platinums towards the 2022 commonwealth games maybe the E400 XLBs that Edinburgh have as there aren't super tight corners?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 18, 2019, 08:25:32 PM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on November 18, 2019, 08:21:09 PM
Will Walsalls platinums receive USB ports like their sisters?

I wouldn't be surprised if Walsall will get a newer batch of platinums towards the 2022 commonwealth games maybe the E400 XLBs that Edinburgh have as there aren't super tight corners?

Apart from the fact the 51 never got it's proposed bendibuses because of difficulties getting them around
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on November 18, 2019, 08:27:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 18, 2019, 08:25:32 PM
Apart from the fact the 51 never got it's proposed bendibuses because of difficulties getting them around

Fair point I did not know the 51 was at one point going to get bendi buse
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: danny on November 18, 2019, 10:22:05 PM
 If memory serves me right wasn't it the 51/61-62-63 and obs the 67 that were all shortlisted for the bendys, with the 67 being the winner.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 19, 2019, 08:14:54 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on November 11, 2019, 09:21:48 AM
The best ambiguous roller blinds were on routes such as the 405E where the B6s would display Circular Service with no clarifier on where to on them

I remember as a young lad shopping with my Nan - we'd gone to Wolverhampton and the then 505/6/7 were all destination as WOLVERHAMPTON via (respective lower blinds) - we caught one by the market expecting it to go to the bus station and ended up in Pendeford!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 21, 2019, 08:05:39 AM
Anyone know when the January changes on Notice & Proceeding (I think?) will be available online?

I've been given an allegation about a certain route, that I want to check it's kosher!

If the allegation I've been given is correct,  I'm intrigued to know why it's happening,  considering said route already has issues anyway
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on November 21, 2019, 10:18:40 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 21, 2019, 08:05:39 AM
Anyone know when the January changes on Notice & Proceeding (I think?) will be available online?

I've been given an allegation about a certain route, that I want to check it's kosher!

If the allegation I've been given is correct,  I'm intrigued to know why it's happening,  considering said route already has issues anyway

What have you heard? PM me if you'd rather not say
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: darthdc on November 25, 2019, 06:20:21 PM
Got a photo of 4870 today, but can't make out the second name. First name is Isabella, and the second name begins with M - looks like Mariah. Just another named bus that I've photographed in the past few days that isn't listed anywhere as having a name.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 25, 2019, 06:27:01 PM
Quote from: darthdc on November 25, 2019, 06:20:21 PM
Got a photo of 4870 today, but can't make out the second name. First name is Isabella, and the second name begins with M - looks like Mariah. Just another named bus that I've photographed in the past few days that isn't listed anywhere as having a name.

That's because they have only just been named, and although I have a list of the names, I haven't a list of which buses they have been applied to
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 03, 2019, 08:06:12 AM
Special mention today for the 'Driver Mentor' on the Darlaston corridor.

Hearing that someone on the 39 at 0725 had left something on a 29, he offered to ring the depot for them.

Offer was declined, as the party involved was sorting it out themselves,  but it's the thought that counts!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 07, 2019, 02:06:13 PM
Anyone know why the Reedswood Sainsburys bus stop is out of action until further notice?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on December 07, 2019, 04:52:11 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 07, 2019, 02:06:13 PM
Anyone know why the Reedswood Sainsburys bus stop is out of action until further notice?
Quote from: Westy on December 07, 2019, 02:06:13 PM
Anyone know why the Reedswood Sainsburys bus stop is out of action until further notice?
bad potholes there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 13, 2019, 05:28:39 PM
Any reason why the 19 has to use E200's?

When Nx ran the route as the 319, prior to the North Walsall review, I used to see B7LRE's on it, & I don't recall any route changes since then, unless there's been an increase in parked cars on route since Nx last operated it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 13, 2019, 06:05:58 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 13, 2019, 05:28:39 PM
Any reason why the 19 has to use E200's?

When Nx ran the route as the 319, prior to the North Walsall review, I used to see B7LRE's on it, & I don't recall any route changes since then, unless there's been an increase in parked cars on route since Nx last operated it.

It doesn't have to. It just makes sense to. Why would you want to use anything bigger than a 37 seater on it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on December 16, 2019, 05:10:00 PM
Just been on a single decker X51 to Cannock... that's a first
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 16, 2019, 06:21:31 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 16, 2019, 05:10:00 PM
Just been on a single decker X51 to Cannock... that's a first

They have done so under the old Cheslyn Hay route due to bridge works in the past.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on December 18, 2019, 03:55:13 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 16, 2019, 05:10:00 PM
Just been on a single decker X51 to Cannock... that's a first

Believe it was mention that a few vehicles off the road due to contamination to diesel so will be a few unusual workings at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on December 19, 2019, 12:46:49 AM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on December 18, 2019, 03:55:13 PM
Believe it was mention that a few vehicles off the road due to contamination to diesel so will be a few unusual workings at Walsall

Yes quite a few 'non platinum' buses on platinum routes in Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on December 19, 2019, 07:31:46 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 16, 2019, 05:10:00 PM
Just been on a single decker X51 to Cannock... that's a first

Bet there were plenty of seats after Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on December 20, 2019, 07:42:52 AM
Quote from: Tony on December 13, 2019, 06:05:58 PM
It doesn't have to. It just makes sense to. Why would you want to use anything bigger than a 37 seater on it?

It's never carried great numbers in recent years so, you're right Tony, a large bus isn't needed - in fact, I remember Johnny Horan doing permanant lates on the 319s and having the standalone Dodge S56 minibus on it. He also kept B6 640 on it too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 20, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
Just saw 4607 in Bradford Place on the 700 school service.

Would I be correct in thinking that this is the only regular double deck into BP?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 20, 2019, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: Westy on December 20, 2019, 08:20:44 AM
Just saw 4607 in Bradford Place on the 700 school service.

Would I be correct in thinking that this is the only regular double deck into BP?

The evening 37 is often a double decker.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on December 20, 2019, 09:36:11 PM
All the 37S after 8pm are double deck

2 are 6 boards
1 is 7A board.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on December 20, 2019, 09:43:25 PM
Quote from: Bob on December 19, 2019, 07:31:46 PM
Bet there were plenty of seats after Walsall

Short of Deckers at WA a lot of 51 Branded off and platinums. WA still have 1935 1945 and 4959 on loan. Not sure about 4311 and 4340 they might of gone back.

With 4306 and 4365 returning to WA.

4595 4596 4606 4607 4608 4609 will probably spend most of there time on 51 and platinum routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on December 20, 2019, 11:13:26 PM
4311 is back at WN, saw it on the 11 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on December 23, 2019, 08:03:00 PM
Went on the 4M today (braved Merry Hill!) - neither were branded with next stop announcements and didn't see many pass by that were. Has that phased out now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 23, 2019, 08:10:12 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 23, 2019, 08:03:00 PM
Went on the 4M today (braved Merry Hill!) - neither were branded with next stop announcements and didn't see many pass by that were. Has that phased out now?

There were 10 on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 23, 2019, 10:50:06 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 23, 2019, 08:03:00 PM
Went on the 4M today (braved Merry Hill!) - neither were branded with next stop announcements and didn't see many pass by that were. Has that phased out now?
If you're talking about the announcements on the branded Omnilinks then yes they've slowly been phased out of the blue, well from the majority of the working ones. But the non-branded Omnilinks have never had announcements.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on December 24, 2019, 01:56:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 23, 2019, 08:10:12 PM
There were 10 on there

Not surprised they are long routes and frequent. Lots of Diamonds too. The 11/11A I have read will serve Merry Hill now from Walsall, looks about 10 mins faster on timetable. p.s. Merry Christmas for tomorrow everyone.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 24, 2019, 02:05:43 PM
Quote from: Jack on December 23, 2019, 10:50:06 PM
If you're talking about the announcements on the branded Omnilinks then yes they've slowly been phased out of the blue, well from the majority of the working ones. But the non-branded Omnilinks have never had announcements.
Interesting @Jack about the phasing out thats good to know  I can honestly say whenever I use the 4M I rarely see the stop announcement workings I just took this as typical of rubbish operations and third rate service of NXWM we suffer in Blackheath from those cowboys good to know it isnt for once but a policy decision.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 24, 2019, 05:01:45 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 24, 2019, 01:56:00 PM
Not surprised they are long routes and frequent. Lots of Diamonds too. The 11/11A I have read will serve Merry Hill now from Walsall, looks about 10 mins faster on timetable. p.s. Merry Christmas for tomorrow everyone.
I'm pretty sure there will be no difference in how long the 4M and the 11/11A will take, the 4M takes (1hr 21 mins, could be wrong) and the 11/11A will go along Baptist End and Netherton so an extra 20 mins, the take right under an hour to get to Dudley (with no traffic) and it would do the 81, so down Baptist End and through Netherton. So I'd say it they will take around the same time, but I can see the 11A being the fastest, as it currently is out of the 11/11A, and obviously the 4M via everywhere.


Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 24, 2019, 02:05:43 PM
Interesting @Jack about the phasing out thats good to know  I can honestly say whenever I use the 4M I rarely see the stop announcement workings I just took this as typical of rubbish operations and third rate service of NXWM we suffer in Blackheath from those cowboys good to know it isnt for once but a policy decision.
I haven't seen them work in ages, the ones that had them working just display 'National Express West Midlands', 1853 for example. But ones that have broken screens like 1862 and 1879 have worked since 2016.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on December 24, 2019, 09:56:45 PM
Quote from: Jack on December 24, 2019, 05:01:45 PM
and obviously the 4M via everywhere.

Yep - black country tour bus! Think we were the only two that went the full length of the route other than the driver lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 24, 2019, 10:14:37 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 24, 2019, 09:56:45 PM
Yep - black country tour bus! Think we were the only two that went the full length of the route other than the driver lol
Quite a few do the whole journey, I bet the driver is surprised you are still on it or forgot you was on it lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busman Jamie on December 25, 2019, 12:16:02 AM
I didn't find the 4M that long a route in honesty?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on December 25, 2019, 12:10:17 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on December 25, 2019, 12:16:02 AM
I didn't find the 4M that long a route in honesty?

It was brutal first and second time I got it. Not so bad on Monday especially coming back. Tried an iGo bus a few years ago from Bilston or Wolverhampton cant remember which, not thinking it's iGo for a reason and it went down every side street in Dudley lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 25, 2019, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: Busman Jamie on December 25, 2019, 12:16:02 AM
I didn't find the 4M that long a route in honesty?
When you first do it does feel like it, but after a number of times it doesn't feel like it.

But again that's why I like a lot of the long Black Country routes, they just keep going and it's nice going through everywhere before getting somewhere lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on December 28, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
Interesting to see a red West Mids Bus advert pop up on the stand C screen at Walsall bus station for Lichfield. It read "Explore Lichfield up to 3 buses an hour..." (i.e. 10A, 35).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 28, 2019, 03:30:22 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on December 28, 2019, 02:53:54 PM
Interesting to see a red West Mids Bus advert pop up on the stand C screen at Walsall bus station for Lichfield. It read "Explore Lichfield up to 3 buses an hour..." (i.e. 10A, 35).

Suspect it's popping up on all screens, as I've seen it on the 31 & 32 stop screens.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 30, 2019, 03:50:47 PM
@Dylanbusboy45, Tridents are the second type on the 51, so they do appear every now and again.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on December 30, 2019, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: Jack on December 30, 2019, 03:50:47 PM
@Dylanbusboy45, Tridents are the second type on the 51, so they do appear every now and again.

Yeh I just popped it on the end of my post as I thought it's quite significant to have 4 of them all on routes into City on a Saturday. I understand they aren't that rare on the 51 though  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 02, 2020, 02:56:21 PM
Just been informed of the passing of bus driver and forum member Isobel Gall @Isobel6725 who sadly passed away on New Years Eve after her battle with Mesothelioma.

She will be missed by us all.  :'(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: richardjones210368 on January 02, 2020, 04:04:46 PM
Please accept My Deepest Sympathies & My thoughts are with her family
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on January 02, 2020, 04:22:41 PM
I never really spoke to Izzy but my deepest sympathy goes to her and the family. She will be missed by us all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B.C Driver on January 02, 2020, 07:49:40 PM
51s need frequency improving. Particularly between 6pm and 10pm leaving Birmingham. Oh so often extremely full. Standing on stairs and refusing buggy etc.
Since the 52 changed the 33 and 51 have seen no improvements to frequency.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: busboy31 on January 02, 2020, 10:13:22 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on January 02, 2020, 04:22:41 PM
I never really spoke to Izzy but my deepest sympathy goes to her and the family. She will be missed by us all.
Wonder if 6725 gets its name updated?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busboy105 on January 03, 2020, 01:30:39 AM
Quote from: B.C Driver on January 02, 2020, 07:49:40 PM
51s need frequency improving. Particularly between 6pm and 10pm leaving Birmingham. Oh so often extremely full. Standing on stairs and refusing buggy etc.
Since the 52 changed the 33 and 51 have seen no improvements to frequency.
Didn't the 33 and the 51 get frequency downgrades?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 03, 2020, 11:03:03 AM
Quote from: Busboy105 on January 03, 2020, 01:30:39 AM
Didn't the 33 and the 51 get frequency downgrades?
Nope they stayed at every 10 mins. They ideally need to be every 7/8 mins.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: richardjones210368 on January 03, 2020, 11:23:44 AM
Quote from: Jack on January 03, 2020, 11:03:03 AM
Nope they stayed at every 10 mins. They ideally need to be every 7/8 mins.
I cannot see it going to every 7/8 remember in the pursuit of greater shareholder dividends at the expense of passengers NXWM cut the main Quinton 9 trunk route from every 7/8mins to every 10 mins as well as the axing the 140 stopping service with no replacement resulting in the 9 now being horribly overcrowded now on Hagley Road in the peaks as a result as well as the cuts now made to 12 12A 13 13A so I do not hold out much hope for 33 or 51 getting a 7 to 8min frequency.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on January 03, 2020, 09:38:57 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 03, 2020, 11:03:03 AM
Nope they stayed at every 10 mins. They ideally need to be every 7/8 mins.

Well the X51 has had a few extra peak journeys to Walsall so can't see why that 51 couldnt too. Perhaps part route (51E?) if its not rammed all the way to Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 03, 2020, 09:40:56 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on January 03, 2020, 09:38:57 PM
Well the X51 has had a few extra peak journeys to Walsall so can't see why that 51 couldnt too. Perhaps part route (51E?) if its not rammed all the way to Walsall?
Yes 51E's to the Scott Arms wouldn't be bad, it would ease the heavy loadings on the 33 between City and One Stop, only problem is the combined frequency with the routes will be lost.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin_Brum12 on January 03, 2020, 10:15:36 PM
Really, really sad news about @Isobel6725 - she was one of the brightst lights in NXWM and its sad she never got the chance to go to the National Bs Driver of the Year final.  Condolences and sympathy to her family, friends and all who knew her at Walsall garage.

Bloody cancer. :-(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on January 03, 2020, 10:22:58 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 03, 2020, 11:03:03 AM
Nope they stayed at every 10 mins. They ideally need to be every 7/8 mins.

They used to be 7/8mins when the E400s were first introduced to the routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 03, 2020, 11:01:50 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on January 03, 2020, 10:22:58 PM
They used to be 7/8mins when the E400s were first introduced to the routes
They were for as long as I can remember, right up before the E400's were introduced.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: busboy31 on January 04, 2020, 06:12:01 PM
What a fitting way to see 6725 5 days after @Isobel6725's passing, I wonder if she saw 4817 when she was driving the X51s/997s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on January 06, 2020, 08:47:34 AM
Quote from: B.C Driver on January 02, 2020, 07:49:40 PM
51s need frequency improving. Particularly between 6pm and 10pm leaving Birmingham. Oh so often extremely full. Standing on stairs and refusing buggy etc.
Since the 52 changed the 33 and 51 have seen no improvements to frequency.

I agree 51/33 was downgraded to 10 minutes each combined 5 minute frequency when the 52 was introduced in 2016 combining a 3 minute frequency. Now the 52 has disappeared no extra frequecy was introduced. What they need is EXTRA SHORT Journeys 33E to Perry Barr so instead of any PB buses running private from city back to garage between 6-10pm is run in service from Birmingham to Perry Barr as 33E after Perry Bsrr the buses are ussally half full.

Later X51s might help 51 out a bit fom 5 January
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 08, 2020, 06:10:35 PM
Its a shame theres no later X51s to Cannock, with the shambolic train service NX could be missing a trick!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 09, 2020, 07:47:26 AM
The X51 coming into Cannock this morning ( the one that leaves at 7.15 ) had a really good load on it! I was surprised!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on January 11, 2020, 07:44:53 AM
Or will the X51s Cannock extension have the same fate as the 154???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on January 11, 2020, 10:18:57 AM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on January 11, 2020, 07:44:53 AM
Or will the X51s Cannock extension have the same fate as the 154???

The 154 was funded by i54, once that funding ceased, it wasn't viable to continue running it commercially.

The X51 is a commercial extension.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on February 08, 2020, 12:01:53 PM
Just passed 4125 on the 7A, complete with Travel West Midlands logos now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: busboy31 on February 08, 2020, 12:48:16 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 08, 2020, 12:01:53 PM
Just passed 4125 on the 7A, complete with Travel West Midlands logos now
Have they put the old TWM logo on the front and sides?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on February 08, 2020, 12:55:56 PM
Quote from: busboy31 on February 08, 2020, 12:48:16 PM
Have they put the old TWM logo on the front and sides?

On the sides above the doors yes, the front has the NXWM logo
https://flic.kr/p/2iqDYhZ
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on February 08, 2020, 01:22:31 PM
How long has 4125 got until it's withdrawn
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 15, 2020, 10:31:28 PM
Are the Amazon services available for public use? A5 runs through Cannock wondered whether I could use it on a Sunday to get to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 16, 2020, 08:49:47 AM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 15, 2020, 10:31:28 PM
Are the Amazon services available for public use? A5 runs through Cannock wondered whether I could use it on a Sunday to get to Walsall.

What Amazon service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on February 16, 2020, 09:25:47 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2020, 08:49:47 AM
What Amazon service?

https://bustimes.org/services/a5-wolverhampton-rugeley-amazon-via-willenhall

That one I guess.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 16, 2020, 09:35:25 AM
Quote from: ellspurs on February 16, 2020, 09:25:47 AM
https://bustimes.org/services/a5-wolverhampton-rugeley-amazon-via-willenhall

That one I guess.

Well you will have a long wait.

Might be on in November
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on February 16, 2020, 09:54:03 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2020, 09:35:25 AM
Well you will have a long wait.

Might be on in November

On a related note, did NX run the Amazon services over the last Christmas period? I don't recall seeing any A5's at all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 16, 2020, 03:55:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2020, 09:35:25 AM
Well you will have a long wait.

Might be on in November

Yes the A5 - it shows are running twice daily in both directions on Google maps and bustimes.org?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on February 16, 2020, 10:10:59 PM
Don't Fastline operate Amazon services. They do A51 in Walsall and I'm sure I've seen them on Chester road. Streetly A52?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 16, 2020, 10:30:52 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 16, 2020, 03:55:39 PM
Yes the A5 - it shows are running twice daily in both directions on Google maps and bustimes.org?

That's why it's normally better to use operators or TfWM for info
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 25, 2020, 06:11:57 PM
18.05 X51 was a bit of a joke tonight! I couldnt get on because people dont know how to queue and its a free for all! Now stuck till 18.45 and if i cant get on that im screwed!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on February 25, 2020, 07:33:46 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 25, 2020, 06:11:57 PM
18.05 X51 was a bit of a joke tonight! I couldnt get on because people dont know how to queue and its a free for all! Now stuck till 18.45 and if i cant get on that im screwed!
I know how you feel mate, I had the same trouble last week when I needed to get back to Cannock in the evening
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2020, 07:34:52 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 25, 2020, 07:33:46 PM
I know how you feel mate, I had the same trouble last week when I needed to get back to Cannock in the evening

I always get on at the Moor Street Queensway stop, normally solves that problem
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on February 25, 2020, 07:36:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 25, 2020, 07:34:52 PM
I always get on at the Moor Street Queensway stop, normally solves that problem
Ah ok I'll have to try that instead of Lower bull Strett
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 25, 2020, 09:06:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 25, 2020, 07:34:52 PM
I always get on at the Moor Street Queensway stop, normally solves that problem

Hi Tony do they definitely always change the blinds there?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 25, 2020, 09:34:37 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 25, 2020, 09:06:27 PM
Hi Tony do they definitely always change the blinds there?

Yes, drivers don't want the abuse of wrong passengers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 25, 2020, 09:48:28 PM
I'll remember that. Should i be there say 10 mins before the bull st time?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 25, 2020, 09:50:55 PM
Btw, according to an Arriva driver NX are axing the Cannock X51s from the end of March! I'd imagine its more likely Arriva would be axing some of their Walsall journeys, if the best they can do is 18 year old knackers on it or even Solos on the 1 regularly they must be doing fantastic!  :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 26, 2020, 06:23:22 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 25, 2020, 09:50:55 PM
Btw, according to an Arriva driver NX are axing the Cannock X51s from the end of March! I'd imagine its more likely Arriva would be axing some of their Walsall journeys, if the best they can do is 18 year old knackers on it or even Solos on the 1 regularly they must be doing fantastic!  :)

What a load of nonsense why would they withdraw 😂
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 26, 2020, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 26, 2020, 06:23:22 PM
What a load of nonsense why would they withdraw 😂

No idea. I dont know what the loadings are like in general. Arriva seem to have given up completely in Cannock though so if there was ever a time for a competitor.....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Justin Tyme on February 26, 2020, 08:36:31 PM
I now use the X51 twice a week, and for the past few weeks I have endured morning chaos northbound leading up to the M6 flyover.  It is down to one lane with a 20 mph speed limit.

I have tried to find out why and what is supposed to be happening, but without success so far.  Sandwell Council's website indicates an emergency closure and/or maybe some streetlight work lasting until, perhaps, either the end of March, May or June.  I haven't actually seen anything happening.

Does anyone know the details?  In the meantime, my sympathies to X51 and 51 drivers, who are having to show extra patience - and seem likely to be "rewarded" when it's over by the demolition of Perry Barr flyover!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on February 26, 2020, 09:51:55 PM
Quote from: Justin Tyme on February 26, 2020, 08:36:31 PM
I now use the X51 twice a week, and for the past few weeks I have endured morning chaos northbound leading up to the M6 flyover.  It is down to one lane with a 20 mph speed limit.

I have tried to find out why and what is supposed to be happening, but without success so far.  Sandwell Council's website indicates an emergency closure and/or maybe some streetlight work lasting until, perhaps, either the end of March, May or June.  I haven't actually seen anything happening.

Does anyone know the details?  In the meantime, my sympathies to X51 and 51 drivers, who are having to show extra patience - and seem likely to be "rewarded" when it's over by the demolition of Perry Barr flyover!

It's too do with streetlight updating works don't know if they started it yet tho this website is really helpful https://one.network/custom/sandwell/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Justin Tyme on February 26, 2020, 10:08:46 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on February 26, 2020, 09:51:55 PM
It's too do with streetlight updating works don't know if they started it yet tho this website is really helpful https://one.network/custom/sandwell/

Thanks for the information and link.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 27, 2020, 01:23:42 AM
Does anyone know why 1754 had it's old TWM blinds? I can't imagine it was down to an error of sorts, as I don't think they had DG3s when new? Just an engineer having a play that forgot to change them back?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 27, 2020, 01:06:58 PM
Quote from: StourValley98 on February 27, 2020, 01:23:42 AM
Does anyone know why 1754 had it's old TWM blinds? I can't imagine it was down to an error of sorts, as I don't think they had DG3s when new? Just an engineer having a play that forgot to change them back?

Is the 11A shorter than the 4M between Walsall and Merry Hill?? I've used the last 11 of the night from Dudley but that's nothing to go by.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busboy105 on February 27, 2020, 01:18:54 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 27, 2020, 01:06:58 PM
Is the 11A shorter than the 4M between Walsall and Merry Hill?? I've used the last 11 of the night from Dudley but that's nothing to go by.
Yes, definitely. The 4M takes a whole year to get to Merry Hill.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 27, 2020, 03:05:16 PM
Quote from: Busboy105 on February 27, 2020, 01:18:54 PM
Yes, definitely. The 4M takes a whole year to get to Merry Hill.

They both take around the same time, the 4M might be quicker depending on traffic, or the 11/11A might be. Both are long routes and pass busy motorway junctions, so delays can and do happen. I'll stick with the 11/11A though, but just because it's a few minutes walk from where I live.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 27, 2020, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: Busboy105 on February 27, 2020, 01:18:54 PM
Yes, definitely. The 4M takes a whole year to get to Merry Hill.

Thank god - the 4M should be an open top bus called the tour of the black country!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 27, 2020, 06:26:50 PM
Quote from: Busboy105 on February 27, 2020, 01:18:54 PM
Yes, definitely. The 4M takes a whole year to get to Merry Hill.

That's a complete exaggeration. The 4M takes about an hour and half between Merry Hill and Walsall.

The 11A takes about an hour and 15 mins.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 27, 2020, 09:37:39 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 27, 2020, 06:26:50 PM
That's a complete exaggeration. The 4M takes about an hour and half between Merry Hill and Walsall.

The 11A takes about an hour and 15 mins.

Im sure he wasn't suggesting it takes 8,760 hours.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 28, 2020, 09:13:09 AM
Quote from: StourValley98 on February 27, 2020, 01:23:42 AM
Does anyone know why 1754 had it's old TWM blinds? I can't imagine it was down to an error of sorts, as I don't think they had DG3s when new? Just an engineer having a play that forgot to change them back?
Nothing wrong with some nostalgia! That number is a lot better and not confusing like the 11A!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 29, 2020, 03:39:20 AM
Quote from: Jack on February 28, 2020, 09:13:09 AM
Nothing wrong with some nostalgia! That number is a lot better and not confusing like the 11A!

I don't really find the new system confusing, although it seems certain systems do. I was checking the times at my local stop in Tipton yesterday which is served by the 11 and 11A, and Google Maps was warning me of a diversion near Bearwood on the AG11A/11C.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 29, 2020, 10:38:33 AM
Quote from: StourValley98 on February 29, 2020, 03:39:20 AM
I don't really find the new system confusing, although it seems certain systems do. I was checking the times at my local stop in Tipton yesterday which is served by the 11 and 11A, and Google Maps was warning me of a diversion near Bearwood on the AG11A/11C.
Well it wasn't confusing when it was the 11 and 13, more stupid simplification when they renumbered the Dudley services. Only re-numbered because of the 13's...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on March 17, 2020, 10:01:38 AM
NX still haven't put timetables up along the A5 in Bridgtown for the X51 (Cross Street & Walkmill Lane). One missing at Station Road (Great Wyrley) towards Brum also.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on March 19, 2020, 10:09:29 AM
I wonder whether NX and Thandi will do a West Midlands Bus partnership on the 34 (334) and 37?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busboy105 on March 19, 2020, 11:42:33 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on March 19, 2020, 10:09:29 AM
I wonder whether NX and Thandi will do a West Midlands Bus partnership on the 34 (334) and 37?
What with Thandi's old ass Darts? No way!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on April 25, 2020, 11:31:04 AM
West Midlands Police are seeking information about a passenger who allegedly spat at a NXWM 51 driver twice on Monday 6th April  at 12.30 m after being challenged about a fake ticket. The passenger allegedly shouted "Coronavirus " on leaving the vehicle. If anyone has any information on this awful assault call #101 anytime.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 27, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
4 route 100% platinum today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on April 27, 2020, 05:33:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 27, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
4 route 100% platinum today

I did think it was weird to follow a Platinum 4M out of Merry Hill and into Cradley Heath today.

Also there was a single decker X8 on the Birmingham New Road. Didn't register in my head until I had passed it in me lorry.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on April 28, 2020, 12:58:28 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 27, 2020, 02:22:59 PM
4 route 100% platinum today

It's quite tight along Coldmore Road when cars are parked up! Hats off to the drivers.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 28, 2020, 01:11:05 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on April 28, 2020, 12:58:28 PM
It's quite tight along Coldmore Road when cars are parked up! Hats off to the drivers.

Platinums make it easier as they are smaller
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on April 28, 2020, 01:45:32 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on April 27, 2020, 05:33:07 PM
I did think it was weird to follow a Platinum 4M out of Merry Hill and into Cradley Heath today.

Also there was a single decker X8 on the Birmingham New Road. Didn't register in my head until I had passed it in me lorry.
Would it be viable to upgrade the 4's to Platinum or at least decker operated?  Whenever I use the 4, it is always packed with little available space.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on April 28, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 28, 2020, 01:45:32 PM
Would it be viable to upgrade the 4's to Platinum or at least decker operated?  Whenever I use the 4, it is always packed with little available space.

The 4's are a high pvr route, where do you propose spare Platinum's of double deckers in normal circumstances will come from ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 28, 2020, 02:07:38 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 28, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
The 4's are a high pvr route, where do you propose spare Platinum's of double deckers in normal circumstances will come from ?

I use the 4 quite regularly West Bromwich to Tame Bridge Station stretch and have never suffered a bus leaving people. with the frequent service from both operators single decks cope well on there. Occasionally I will choose a Diamond over NX just to get a double seat to myself, but would never have not got a seat
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on April 28, 2020, 02:18:43 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 28, 2020, 02:01:57 PM
The 4's are a high pvr route, where do you propose spare Platinum's of double deckers in normal circumstances will come from ?
They upgraded the 50, which has a higher PVR.
Quote from: Tony on April 28, 2020, 02:07:38 PM
I use the 4 quite regularly West Bromwich to Tame Bridge Station stretch and have never suffered a bus leaving people. with the frequent service from both operators single decks cope well on there. Occasionally I will choose a Diamond over NX just to get a double seat to myself, but would never have not got a seat
I use it in the other direction, and granted it doesn't leave people behind, but it can be a squash, especially with prams and shopping trolleys, which can make boarding and alighting more difficult.  Also, it is harder for the infirm to access seats further back as the ones at the front are always taken.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 28, 2020, 02:21:22 PM
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 28, 2020, 02:18:43 PM
Also, it is harder for the infirm to access seats further back as the ones at the front are always taken.
Ideally people would be considerate to others and yourself and anyone else able to sat at the front should move to those seats further back then, so the infirm can take those seats at the front.
Can't see how it would be any different on a double decker - they're not going to be able to go upstairs.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on April 28, 2020, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 28, 2020, 02:07:38 PM
I use the 4 quite regularly West Bromwich to Tame Bridge Station stretch and have never suffered a bus leaving people. with the frequent service from both operators single decks cope well on there. Occasionally I will choose a Diamond over NX just to get a double seat to myself, but would never have not got a seat

The Hasbury end of the 4H is never that busy either, there are too many 4H's with 7bph between NXWM & Diamond.

Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 28, 2020, 02:18:43 PM
They upgraded the 50, which has a higher PVR

And? You're missing the point. Where are these double deckers - Platinum or standard going to come from? And where will the spare Omnilinks go when there are already too many single deckers in the fleet?

Doubt NX will be placing any new decker orders until well after the impact of all this is known.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on April 28, 2020, 02:31:24 PM
Quote from: 2206 on April 28, 2020, 02:21:22 PM
Ideally people would be considerate to others and yourself and anyone else able to sat at the front should move to those seats further back then, so the infirm can take those seats at the front.
Can't see how it would be any different on a double decker - they're not going to be able to go upstairs.
I always give up my seat for the infirm and move, however I can't speak for everyone.  It would be easier on a decker as the distance for them to walk to available seating, which may be at the back is much shorter then on a Scania or B7.  Those who are able can sit upstairs, freeing up space on the lower decks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on April 28, 2020, 06:50:01 PM
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on April 28, 2020, 02:18:43 PM
They upgraded the 50, which has a higher PVR.I use it in the other direction, and granted it doesn't leave people behind, but it can be a squash, especially with prams and shopping trolleys, which can make boarding and alighting more difficult.  Also, it is harder for the infirm to access seats further back as the ones at the front are always taken.

The 50 is one of the busiest routes in Europe
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on April 29, 2020, 03:42:58 PM
Please can we sign and share this https://www.change.org/X51Sundays. Appreciate the circumstances but want to get the ball rolling. Thanks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: D10 on April 29, 2020, 08:30:22 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on April 29, 2020, 03:42:58 PM
Please can we sign and share this https://www.change.org/X51Sundays. Appreciate the circumstances but want to get the ball rolling. Thanks.

I would have thought that the priority for NXWM and all their staff will be getting the existing network up and running and making money again and not launching speculative services in the Evenings and Sundays.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on April 29, 2020, 10:06:36 PM
Quote from: D10 on April 29, 2020, 08:30:22 PM
I would have thought that the priority for NXWM and all their staff will be getting the existing network up and running and making money again and not launching speculative services in the Evenings and Sundays.

If you bother to read it clearly states that we want to start getting signatures to put it forward at an appropriate time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 30, 2020, 09:53:48 AM
6741 on 4H. Weird seeing these on the 4H
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: D10 on April 30, 2020, 09:17:29 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on April 29, 2020, 10:06:36 PM
If you bother to read it clearly states that we want to start getting signatures to put it forward at an appropriate time.

I did read it, and you don't mention when you are going to take further action. Perhaps this should be stated so people don't get their hopes up.

We don't know when an appropriate time is going to be, so what is the point in collecting signatures for a petition then when you can't even predict when this might even be passed on. It will be many months before things stand a chance of getting back to how they were.

There is no point getting peoples hopes up when even if this did happen it will be a very long time in the future, and then it's even talking about more services in the Cannock area!

Sorry to appear negative, but I don't think this is the right time to do this kind of thing when the industry is in such turmoil.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on May 01, 2020, 12:44:15 AM
Quote from: D10 on April 30, 2020, 09:17:29 PM
Sorry to appear negative, but I don't think this is the right time to do this kind of thing when the industry is in such turmoil.

I'll make it more clear on there. We discussed it as a group and decided to start getting signatures, particularly as more people are at home. Its a continuation of our last petition 2 years ago that was in the local news, we never got a solution.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 04, 2020, 01:15:05 PM
current operational fleet
859
860
861
1773
1893
1894
1909
2112
2113
2118
2119
2124
2126
2128
2133
2134
2135
6718
6719
6720
6721
6722
6723
6724
6725
6726
6728
6730
6731
6732
6733
6734
6735
6736
6737
6738
6739
6740
6741
6742
6743
6744
6745
6746
6747
6748
6749
6750
6751
6752
6753
6754
6755
6756
6757
6758
on loan from BC
8356
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on May 04, 2020, 09:20:44 PM
Thanks for doing all this work! So 1773 is the oldest operational bus in the fleet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 04, 2020, 10:01:08 PM
Quote from: Stevo on May 04, 2020, 09:20:44 PM
Thanks for doing all this work! So 1773 is the oldest operational bus in the fleet.

At the moment, hopefully be beaten soon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 05, 2020, 12:19:22 PM
Thanks for info

Is 6713 - 6717 likely to be Reinstated from the 10 May with 51 & 4 frequency increase.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 05, 2020, 12:41:52 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on May 05, 2020, 12:19:22 PM
Thanks for info

Is 6713 - 6717 likely to be Reinstated from the 10 May with 51 & 4 frequency increase.

along with 4868
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 05, 2020, 02:23:00 PM
Thanks for info I hope Tridents will start appearing again soon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on May 14, 2020, 12:55:59 PM
I've seen quite a few comments from passengers about liking Platinum double deckers on the 4, 4H and 4M. When these routes start going back to normal these passengers are going to be disappointed to be back on single deckers again !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 14, 2020, 03:20:27 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on May 14, 2020, 12:55:59 PM
I've seen quite a few comments from passengers about liking Platinum double deckers on the 4, 4H and 4M. When these routes start going back to normal these passengers are going to be disappointed to be back on single deckers again !
Why will they be disappointed? Is there a capacity problem on that route?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busboy105 on May 14, 2020, 03:57:31 PM
Quote from: 2206 on May 14, 2020, 03:20:27 PM
Why will they be disappointed? Is there a capacity problem on that route?
A user had said that the 4/4H/4M aren't suitable for single deckers. Isn't the only service in the West Midlands to have that issue.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on May 14, 2020, 05:32:01 PM
Quote from: 2206 on May 14, 2020, 03:20:27 PM
Why will they be disappointed? Is there a capacity problem on that route?
If you my original status,  surely it's obvious that the passengers comments where about comfort, leg room etc, nothing to do with capacity
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 14, 2020, 05:35:05 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on May 14, 2020, 05:32:01 PM
If you my original status,  surely it's obvious that the passengers comments where about comfort, leg room etc, nothing to do with capacity
In that case I can't see the problem, they should just be happy they have a bus with pleanty of capacity that gets them to their destination.
There are loads of passsengers across the West Midlands on many routes who won't have platinum vehicles anymore.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 16, 2020, 12:56:52 AM
The 4 previous 404 has been successful with single decker since June 1997 with leyland Lynxs followed by mercs in 1998 them scanias since 2009. With a high frequency of every 7 minutes single decks arnt really an issue.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 16, 2020, 08:03:44 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on May 16, 2020, 12:56:52 AM
The 4 previous 404 has been successful with single decker since June 1997 with leyland Lynxs followed by mercs in 1998 them scanias since 2009. With a high frequency of every 7 minutes single decks arnt really an issue.

Not forgetting Diamond as well so virtually a 4 min frequency for passengers who use either
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 24, 2020, 11:22:22 AM
1909 was on the 4H yesterday. Presumably going back to single deck operation
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 24, 2020, 11:46:31 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 24, 2020, 11:22:22 AM
1909 was on the 4H yesterday. Presumably going back to single deck operation

It will be double deck if enough doubles are available
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 24, 2020, 12:27:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 24, 2020, 11:46:31 AM
It will be double deck if enough doubles are available

Even after the 1st June?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on May 24, 2020, 07:14:53 PM
Walsall are back to running the 45 by the looks of things.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 25, 2020, 12:05:14 PM
4601 out on the 29 today being the third heritage livery back in use.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on May 26, 2020, 12:14:34 PM
6727  is missing it's side branding for the x51/997 seen on a pic on Facebook
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident4590 on May 27, 2020, 11:31:23 AM
saw a trainer out today, is it now okay to apply or not?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on May 27, 2020, 12:51:49 PM
Heritage Trident 4601 is on the 4H today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 27, 2020, 02:24:25 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 27, 2020, 12:51:49 PM
Heritage Trident 4601 is on the 4H today

Indeed was round Hayley green about 12:00
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on May 27, 2020, 02:40:05 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 27, 2020, 02:24:25 PM
Indeed was round Hayley green about 12:00

That's where I saw it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4609 on June 08, 2020, 09:04:14 PM
Quote from: Stu on June 08, 2020, 08:31:40 PM
4568 was on the 6 (YW) this evening - been a long time since I saw anything other than an E400MMC on there

Quote from: Tony on June 08, 2020, 08:42:17 PM
It's last day at YW as well!

Out of interest, is it another one destined for long term loan at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 10, 2020, 12:23:16 AM
Spotted a few of the Pheasey 997's today with the new via points. They now display 'Pheasey' on the top line and the new via point being 'Stanhope Way' which is completely stupid as thats where the Pheasey shorts terminate, why couldn't they just have 'via Perry Barr and Old Oscott'? Would make more sense than Stanhope Way.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 15, 2020, 03:24:25 PM
Looks like 6722 broken down in Cannock on Walsall Road, by the first stop after Cannock Bus Stn
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on June 18, 2020, 03:13:09 AM
Have Walsall taken over the De courcey coach contracts?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 18, 2020, 06:02:55 AM
Quote from: Nxwm on June 18, 2020, 03:13:09 AM
Have Walsall taken over the De courcey coach contracts?

No one is running any contracts
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 18, 2020, 08:11:33 AM
4348 on 4H. First 43** series I've seen on here
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on June 18, 2020, 08:46:45 PM
Sorry I should have said coach services obviously given the current situation I know they ain't running
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on June 22, 2020, 11:10:42 AM
4601 just gone past on the 4H on it's way to Hayley Green
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 22, 2020, 03:26:22 PM
First time I have seen 'bus full' on the front... it was a 31 Mossley to Walsall single decker
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 22, 2020, 05:16:38 PM
Is there any truth in the rumour that the 8 might be extended to Cannock?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on June 22, 2020, 06:54:06 PM
Quote from: Bob on June 22, 2020, 05:16:38 PM
Is there any truth in the rumour that the 8 might be extended to Cannock?

Through Norton Canes? Makes sense if there is a clamour for it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 22, 2020, 08:14:25 PM
Quote from: Bob on June 22, 2020, 05:16:38 PM
Is there any truth in the rumour that the 8 might be extended to Cannock?

I've said for a few weeks now it hasn't came back and the number 8 is the same route up until Brownhills so I reckon they will replace the 3 hourly. Not sure why NX copied the route round Clayhanger.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 22, 2020, 09:28:46 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on June 22, 2020, 06:54:06 PM
Through Norton Canes? Makes sense if there is a clamour for it.

Well Arriva have completely stopped running it from March yet are running empty duplicates on the 2. Theres no bus between CsnnockBrownhills Pelsall etc at all
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 22, 2020, 09:29:30 PM
It would also pass ndar the new shopping centre when it opens
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on June 23, 2020, 11:31:22 AM
Quote from: Bob on June 22, 2020, 09:28:46 PM
running empty duplicates on the 2.

That one I dont understand, two buses with fresh air
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 30, 2020, 09:20:51 AM
Quote from: CL on June 30, 2020, 08:56:07 AM
1772 - (WA)X51

@CL I'm guessing it was the morning Dynamic Spare that's at Scott Arms, as judging by bustimes.org 6741 broke down at 07:34 at Alexander Stadium and 1772 was in service at Scott Arms for 07:40. Looks like it's finished now though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on June 30, 2020, 09:51:03 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 30, 2020, 09:20:51 AM
@CL I'm guessing it was the morning Dynamic Spare that's at Scott Arms, as judging by bustimes.org 6741 broke down at 07:34 at Alexander Stadium and 1772 was in service at Scott Arms for 07:40. Looks like it's finished now though.
A shame - though I'm not surprised 😂 Thanks for the info; did manage a quick dash to Newtown to catch a snap of it heading Walsall-bound ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 07:58:16 AM
Utter madness in Coombes Wood this morning TWO West Midlands Travel Ltd Tridents in the old red & white colours running together on the 4H from Halesowen towards Walsall followed by a DIAMOND VALUE B7 all completely empty at 7.30am Tears for fears were so right it really is a Mad World.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 06, 2020, 09:00:06 AM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 07:58:16 AM
Utter madness in Coombes Wood this morning TWO West Midlands Travel Ltd Tridents in the old red & white colours running together on the 4H from Halesowen towards Walsall followed by a DIAMOND VALUE B7 all completely empty at 7.30am Tears for fears were so right it really is a Mad World.
Those tridents could have been duplicates.  In case you hadn't realised, the government has put people off using public transport, which is why you'll see empty vehicles.  Hardly madness is it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 10:00:28 AM
Quote from: Pat on July 06, 2020, 09:00:06 AM
Those tridents could have been duplicates.  In case you hadn't realised, the government has put people off using public transport, which is why you'll see empty vehicles.  Hardly madness is it?
So why the duplicates @Pat ? It is utterly stupid I do not need three buses arriving at the stop when I would be the sole passenger on the route it is madness & having used our bus service throughout the pandemic for essential journeys to QEHB I need no advice from you or anyone on the government's advice on the ludicrous spectacle of this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 06, 2020, 10:37:43 AM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 10:00:28 AM
So why the duplicates @Pat ? It is utterly stupid I do not need three buses arriving at the stop when I would be the sole passenger on the route it is madness & having used our bus service throughout the pandemic for essential journeys to QEHB I need no advice from you or anyone on the government's advice on the ludicrous spectacle of this morning.

Maybe it's dead on that section but could soon pickup between blackheath and Walsall.

Also I've just seen a Scania displaying 3 West Bromwich going up Coombes wood. Presumably wrong route set, however could get bad when it reaches blackheath and people think it's a 3 not a 4H!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 10:51:00 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 06, 2020, 10:37:43 AM
Maybe it's dead on that section but could soon pickup between blackheath and Walsall.

Also I've just seen a Scania displaying 3 West Bromwich going up Coombes wood. Presumably wrong route set, however could get bad when it reaches blackheath and people think it's a 3 not a 4H!!
Fully agree about it being dead between Halesowen & Blackheath @Trident 4194 but surely the duplicate should be on the 4 then and not the 4H I have not seen another passenger on the 4H in the last three months.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 06, 2020, 10:52:23 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 06, 2020, 10:37:43 AM
Maybe it's dead on that section but could soon pickup between blackheath and Walsall.

Also I've just seen a Scania displaying 3 West Bromwich going up Coombes wood. Presumably wrong route set, however could get bad when it reaches blackheath and people think it's a 3 not a 4H!!
Part of Powke Lane is closed until late August meaning the 3, 4M and 24 are on Coombes Wood and Gorsty Hill.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 06, 2020, 10:58:05 AM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 07:58:16 AM
Utter madness in Coombes Wood this morning TWO West Midlands Travel Ltd Tridents in the old red & white colours running together on the 4H from Halesowen towards Walsall followed by a DIAMOND VALUE B7 all completely empty at 7.30am Tears for fears were so right it really is a Mad World.
Sure one of the Tridents wasn't a 4M, Richard?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 11:05:30 AM
Quote from: Jack on July 06, 2020, 10:52:23 AM
Part of Powke Lane is closed until late August meaning the 3, 4M and 24 are on Coombes Wood and Gorsty Hill.
I am aware of that but these were three 4H's togther not 3 or 4M or 24. I am surprised the diversionary route isn't via Perry Park Road ; it is for 24; it coped for years with the 415 yet another stupid decision to divert the 3 & 4M via Coombes Wood resulting in a very long diversion thru Haden Hill utter madness. The operator is not responsible for the diversion NXWM are merely following Sandwell Councils Advisory Route for the 3 & 4M
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: P419 EJW on July 06, 2020, 11:58:43 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 06, 2020, 10:37:43 AM
Maybe it's dead on that section but could soon pickup between blackheath and Walsall.

Also I've just seen a Scania displaying 3 West Bromwich going up Coombes wood. Presumably wrong route set, however could get bad when it reaches blackheath and people think it's a 3 not a 4H!!

3, 4M, and 24 are on diversion for 7 weeks. Read it on disruptions: https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/plan-your-journey/disruptions/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 06, 2020, 12:16:14 PM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 10:00:28 AM
So why the duplicates @Pat ? It is utterly stupid I do not need three buses arriving at the stop when I would be the sole passenger on the route it is madness & having used our bus service throughout the pandemic for essential journeys to QEHB I need no advice from you or anyone on the government's advice on the ludicrous spectacle of this morning.
I was unaware of the diversions, so that may have possibly caused the three buses to come at once.  If they were duplicates, NX may have done this as it gets busier further down the route, as has already been said.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 02:01:51 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 06, 2020, 12:16:14 PM
I was unaware of the diversions, so that may have possibly caused the three buses to come at once.  If they were duplicates, NX may have done this as it gets busier further down the route, as has already been said.
There was no other traffic in Coombes Wood this morning to cause any delays @Pat  just a convoy of 4H's in threes the comments about the route being busier beyond Blackheath simply do not stand up if the route was busier beyond Blackheath the duplicate would be on Service 4 Blackheath to Walsall not the 4H
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: midlandred2003 on July 06, 2020, 02:43:02 PM
4M due Blackheath 07:15,4H due 07:22,3 due 07:30 one running slightly late one a little early perhaps? Because of diversion no problem?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: midlandred2003 on July 06, 2020, 02:43:02 PM
4M due Blackheath 07:15,4H due 07:22,3 due 07:30 one running slightly late one a little early perhaps? Because of diversion no problem?
So how do you explain two TRIDENTS with 4H on the Hanover & B7 stopping together in Coombes Rd together then with a 4M Trident behind the B7?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: midlandred2003 on July 06, 2020, 03:22:40 PM
I am not in a position to explain operations I  am merely giving a reason why 2 buses were together!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 03:30:14 PM
Quote from: midlandred2003 on July 06, 2020, 03:22:40 PM
I am not in a position to explain operations I  am merely giving a reason why 2 buses were together!
I have clearly posted there were 2 Tridents on the 4H so what is your reasoning that one is a 4M when a 4M Trident came round the corner and stopped behind the Diamond 4H in all there were 4 buses together eventually so how can that explain your reason for 2 buses together I don't follow?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 06, 2020, 03:53:55 PM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
So how do you explain two TRIDENTS with 4H on the Hanover & B7 stopping together in Coombes Rd together then with a 4M Trident behind the B7?

Perhaps you can give me the fleet numbers, or at least the time so I can check for a reason
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: midlandred2003 on July 06, 2020, 04:00:55 PM
At the beginning you said there were 3 buses together now you are saying 4?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 04:10:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2020, 03:53:55 PM
Perhaps you can give me the fleet numbers, or at least the time so I can check for a reason
It was 7.28am this morning in Coombes Road, as I said to you previously I record each bus I board unfortunately I let the two empty Tridents thru & boarded 30943. It just seems such a waste of your valuable resources at the current time on the first day of your new timetable especially with the 4M diversion it not a criticism of NXWM just an observation to be honest I really don't need 4 buses together just to get me to my GP BLOODS at Sandwell Hospital.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 04:12:27 PM
Quote from: midlandred2003 on July 06, 2020, 04:00:55 PM
At the beginning you said there were 3 buses together now you are saying 4?
I clearly said there were 3 4H's together the 4M is a separate service and does not serve Halesowen & is of no relevance to my observation it was @midlandred2003 who mentioned the 4M as an explanation not me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on July 06, 2020, 04:15:23 PM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 04:10:10 PM
It was 7.28am this morning in Coombes Road, as I said to you previously I record each bus I board unfortunately I let the two empty Tridents thru & boarded 30943. It just seems such a waste of your valuable resources at the current time on the first day of your new timetable especially with the 4M diversion it not a criticism of NXWM just an observation to be honest I really don't need 4 buses together just to get me to my GP BLOODS at Sandwell Hospital.

30943 has been returned off lease.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 04:18:25 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 06, 2020, 04:15:23 PM
30943 has been returned off lease.
Oh I thought it was 30943 it was a Diamond Value one with part of the signage missing that why I recorded it as I never take much notice of the Diamond fleet numbers using them so much. Could have been 30832. Thank you for the correction @Winston much appreciated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 06, 2020, 05:07:48 PM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 04:18:25 PM
Oh I thought it was 30943 it was a Diamond Value one with part of the signage missing that why I recorded it as I never take much notice of the Diamond fleet numbers using them so much. Could have been 30832. Thank you for the correction @Winston much appreciated.
30832 isn't value branded.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 05:30:38 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 06, 2020, 05:07:48 PM
30832 isn't value branded.
Yes I know but it used to be on the 301 as I posted the signage is now missing.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on July 06, 2020, 05:42:28 PM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 05:30:38 PM
Yes I know but it used to be on the 301 as I posted the signage is now missing.

30832 is in two tone blue livery & looks nothing like it did when on the 301
https://www.flickr.com/photos/68628359@N04/49777642093
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on July 06, 2020, 05:51:23 PM
The Powke Lane diversion wasn't on today as I've driven up and down Powke Lane and even saw 4601 on a 4M coming down it towards Merry Hill. However noticed Part of Cradley Heath is shut as saw and X10 using the 3 route into Merry Hill.

Just looked at NX diversion sheet and Powke Lane wont be shut it'll be Temp traffic Lights from 24/08.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 06:17:39 PM
Quote from: WB Driver on July 06, 2020, 05:51:23 PM
The Powke Lane diversion wasn't on today as I've driven up and down Powke Lane and even saw 4601 on a 4M coming down it towards Merry Hill. However noticed Part of Cradley Heath is shut as saw and X10 using the 3 route into Merry Hill.

Just looked at NX diversion sheet and Powke Lane wont be shut it'll be Temp traffic Lights from 24/08.
3, 4M & 24 are going down Powke Lane but not coming up it as clearly stated on the West Midlands Network website.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 06:33:38 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 06, 2020, 05:42:28 PM
30832 is in two tone blue livery & looks nothing like it did when on the 301
https://www.flickr.com/photos/68628359@N04/49777642093
Yes fully agree @Winston it now in the new Diamond livery but used to be in the  Diamond Value livery then they removed the Value & 301/2 branding now its much smarter I describe Diamond buses as I always remember them 30826 will always be Black Diamond Royale to me
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 06, 2020, 06:37:53 PM
The vehicles seen were
4597 which had come from Merry Hill on the 4M and left Halesowen at 07:31
4599 which had come from Hasbury on the 4H and left Halesowen at 07:33

I cannot tell what they were displaying on then destination screens
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 06, 2020, 06:39:37 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 06, 2020, 06:37:53 PM
The vehicles seen were
4597 which had come from Merry Hill on the 4M and left Halesowen at 07:31
4599 which had come from Hasbury on the 4H and left Halesowen at 07:33

I cannot tell what they were displaying on then destination screens
Thought I was correct. Should get his eyes tested.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 06:49:57 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 06, 2020, 06:39:37 PM
Thought I was correct. Should get his eyes tested.
Most of me is falling apart with disease but my eyesight is perfect in Coombes Wood this morning at 7.28 there were TWO Tridents on the 4H from NXWM followed by a Diamond B7 4H and followed by a 4M whatever anyone posts or says I was at the bus stop & FOUR buses ran together THREE from NXWM & ONE from Diamond Bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on July 06, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 06:17:39 PM
3, 4M & 24 are going down Powke Lane but not coming up it as clearly stated on the West Midlands Network website.

Well I went up and down it and there were no sign to say the road was or was going to be shut and traffic was flowing in both directions so whoever the person at West Midlands Network say its shut should go and look rather than sit behind a desk.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 06, 2020, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: WB Driver on July 06, 2020, 07:10:28 PM
Well I went up and down it and there were no sign to say the road was or was going to be shut and traffic was flowing in both directions so whoever the person at West Midlands Network say its shut should go and look rather than sit behind a desk.

It's nothing to do with Network West Midlands. They take the info for documents that have been sent to them from operators or the council, then they update the divertions page. so @WB Driver  don't have a go at NWM until you've got all the information. Look a little closer to home in this case i.e. the operator or the Council.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on July 06, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 06, 2020, 07:24:59 PM
It's nothing to do with Network West Midlands. They take the info for documents that have been sent to them from operators or the council, then they update the divertions page. so @WB Driver  don't have a go at NWM until you've got all the information. Look a little closer to home in this case i.e. the operator or the Council.

Ok jeez, so why is there such a difference between NWM saying the Roadworks start today and NX's diversions sheet saying they'll start on 24th August.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on July 06, 2020, 09:16:29 PM
Works meant to of started today it's saying on google maps it's one way and on the roadwork map Sandwell council work it's saying it's one way but will check tommorow as going that https://one.network/custom/sandwell/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 06, 2020, 09:39:46 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on July 06, 2020, 09:16:29 PM
Works meant to of started today it's saying on google maps it's one way and on the roadwork map Sandwell council work it's saying it's one way but will check tommorow as going that https://one.network/custom/sandwell/
I think between @Tony & myself  commenting on  his records which are a matter for himself & me actually standing at the bus stop observing what  was actually occurring we are both in agreement that towards Walsall the 3 & 4M are actually using Halesowen Rd,  Coombes Rd, Gorsty Hill Rd & Halesowen Street whether or not Powke Lane is open & the WMN website is correct.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 07, 2020, 09:02:35 AM
Quote from: WB Driver on July 06, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Ok jeez, so why is there such a difference between NWM saying the Roadworks start today and NX's diversions sheet saying they'll start on 24th August.

Quote from: Jack6101 on July 06, 2020, 09:16:29 PM
Works meant to of started today it's saying on google maps it's one way and on the roadwork map Sandwell council work it's saying it's one way but will check tommorow as going that https://one.network/custom/sandwell/

I don't know why there's such a difference. All I can say is possibly the council have given the wrong info to either NX or WMN. Dont know which one though. Also if the post below is correct then that suggest that the divertion sheet that you have is incorrect and not NWM.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 07, 2020, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 07, 2020, 09:02:35 AM
I don't know why there's such a difference. All I can say is possibly the council have given the wrong info to either NX or WMN. Dont know which one though. Also if the post below is correct then that suggest that the divertion sheet that you have is incorrect and not NWM.
No surprise.  Councils can be pretty useless when it comes to informing operators of disruptions.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 979 on July 07, 2020, 08:13:18 PM
Quote from: WB Driver on July 06, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Ok jeez, so why is there such a difference between NWM saying the Roadworks start today and NX's diversions sheet saying they'll start on 24th August.
communication at its poorest, All last week Oldbury Interchange was closed throughout the evenings and there was no information displayed on the shelters advising passengers. They were left waiting for a magic bus to arrive.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: 979 on July 07, 2020, 08:13:18 PM
communication at its poorest, All last week Oldbury Interchange was closed throughout the evenings and there was no information displayed on the shelters advising passengers. They were left waiting for a magic bus to arrive.

Again communication between Council and operator at it's poorest. nothing to do with NWM. As this wasn't on their website either.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 11:11:08 AM
Quote from: Pat on July 07, 2020, 12:02:44 PM
No surprise.  Councils can be pretty useless when it comes to informing operators of disruptions.

Your right there. Although saying that thay are on the ball most times. It just takes a little time for the divertions/disruptions page to be updated. Also if the diversion or disruption is delayed then that could be why the diversion sheet that @WB Driver has got says the division starts in August. to be honest I don't know why this is such a big problem @WB Driver, one of the things is obviously going to be correct. Does it really matter which one?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 08, 2020, 11:47:20 AM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 11:11:08 AM
one of the things is obviously going to be correct. Does it really matter which one?
Yes it does.  The diversion sheet is what the driver carries with them and what they'll follow, so it is vital that the information is correct.  There has been incidents before where a decker has wedged itself under a bridge on a diversion, or has had to do a three point turn as they can't get under the bridge.  Mind you, some of that may be down to driver error and not reading the sheet correctly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 12:14:42 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 08, 2020, 11:47:20 AM
Yes it does.  The diversion sheet is what the driver carries with them and what they'll follow, so it is vital that the information is correct.  There has been incidents before where a decker has wedged itself under a bridge on a diversion, or has had to do a three point turn as they can't get under the bridge.  Mind you, some of that may be down to driver error and not reading the sheet correctly.

I understand where you're coming from @Pat  but to start arguing about it, it seam a bit silly doesn't it?

Arguing isn't going to solve anything so as I've said before in above posts. one of the things will be correct and also the council isn't always fast at getting the correct I for to the right placed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 12:17:26 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on July 06, 2020, 09:16:29 PM
Works meant to of started today it's saying on google maps it's one way and on the roadwork map Sandwell council work it's saying it's one way but will check tommorow as going that https://one.network/custom/sandwell/

Thanks for backing my side of the argument up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on July 08, 2020, 02:39:46 PM
It's not a big problem but I do most route operated from WB and also Private hires and it gets confusing when you look on the sheet to see when their may be diversions coming up and then find they already started. There's been several occasions on WB route were Roadworks have sprung up that the company didn't know about because of a missed email or Roadworks have been scheduled but never happen. I apologise for being harsh on NMW.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 03:22:36 PM
Quote from: WB Driver on July 08, 2020, 02:39:46 PM
It's not a big problem but I do most route operated from WB and also Private hires and it gets confusing when you look on the sheet to see when their may be diversions coming up and then find they already started. There's been several occasions on WB route were Roadworks have sprung up that the company didn't know about because of a missed email or Roadworks have been scheduled but never happen. I apologise for being harsh on NMW.

As I said earlier most of the diversions are done by Council althority and not WMN. Although there are some times wehe it is down to WMN.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 08, 2020, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 12:14:42 PM
I understand where you're coming from @Pat  but to start arguing about it, it seam a bit silly doesn't it?

Arguing isn't going to solve anything so as I've said before in above posts. one of the things will be correct and also the council isn't always fast at getting the correct I for to the right placed.
I'm not arguing in the slightest.  I simply stated the importance of the diversion sheet and how the information on it needs to be correct.  Drivers can't simply look up the diversion on the NWM website, so it is vital that the information they have is correct.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 04:14:15 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 08, 2020, 03:56:03 PM
I'm not arguing in the slightest.  I simply stated the importance of the diversion sheet and how the information on it needs to be correct.  Drivers can't simply look up the diversion on the NWM website, so it is vital that the information they have is correct.


I understand about the  diversion sheet. But there is a way that all drivers could help. the first driver who has the divertion sheet could cross reference some of the direction against the WMN website. Then if there's something wrong on the sheet  they could screenshot the NWM site and forward it to the person how drew it up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 979 on July 08, 2020, 04:27:31 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 11:03:49 AM
Again communication between Council and operator at it's poorest. nothing to do with NWM. As this wasn't on their website either.
Operators were aware of it as there was notices on the drivers running boards, nothing informing the passengers in the shelters though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 04:44:35 PM
Quote from: 979 on July 08, 2020, 04:27:31 PM
Operators were aware of it as there was notices on the drivers running boards, nothing informing the passengers in the shelters though.

Well  again maybe the Council didn't inform WMN and that's why there were no notices up on the bus stops.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 08, 2020, 05:00:07 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 04:14:15 PM

I understand about the  diversion sheet. But there is a way that all drivers could help. the first driver who has the divertion sheet could cross reference some of the direction against the WMN website. Then if there's something wrong on the sheet  they could screenshot the NWM site and forward it to the person how drew it up.
But why should drivers have to do this?  They may not have the time or facilities to check over someone else's work that should have been correct in the first place.  And how would you get corrected diversion sheets out to drivers.  In the case of the 4/H/M, it would be rather difficult I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:14:45 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 08, 2020, 05:00:07 PM
But why should drivers have to do this?  They may not have the time or facilities to check over someone else's work that should have been correct in the first place.  And how would you get corrected diversion sheets out to drivers.  In the case of the 4/H/M, it would be rather difficult I'd imagine.

I'm with you on things that haven't been done correctly. However I recon most drivers have a smart phone that thay can just double check the route out against the sheet. I understand that they have a job to do and a timetable to stick to. However when it comes to diversions if they find it's wrong on the sheet when they cross reference it (when they have time to) then as I stated in my last post. they could screen shot it and sent it to the relevant person how deals with the sheet so when they update it with more diversion they would correct the wrong info and then the sheet would then be re distributed to the drivers on the next shift.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 08, 2020, 05:44:55 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:14:45 PM
I'm with you on things that haven't been done correctly. However I recon most drivers have a smart phone that thay can just double check the route out against the sheet. I understand that they have a job to do and a timetable to stick to. However when it comes to diversions if they find it's wrong on the sheet when they cross reference it (when they have time to) then as I stated in my last post. they could screen shot it and sent it to the relevant person how deals with the sheet so when they update it with more diversion they would correct the wrong info and then the sheet would then be re distributed to the drivers on the next shift.
But a driver isn't necessarily going to look at the WMN website before they start a trip.  They're still going to come across the wrong diversion on their first trip.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 08, 2020, 05:48:13 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 08, 2020, 05:00:07 PM
But why should drivers have to do this?  They may not have the time or facilities to check over someone else's work that should have been correct in the first place.  And how would you get corrected diversion sheets out to drivers.  In the case of the 4/H/M, it would be rather difficult I'd imagine.
As I live about five minutes walk from Powke Lane I can confirm notices have been up for weeks the road is to be partly closed. The diversion is clearly posted on the West Midlands Network website, the diversiery route is on the Sandwell Council website & I can confirm the 4M was following  THREE 4H's yesterday morning to be frankly @Pat there is no excuse for any driver not being aware of the work being undertaken.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:49:59 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 08, 2020, 05:44:55 PM
But a driver isn't necessarily going to look at the WMN website before they start a trip.  They're still going to come across the wrong diversion on their first trip.
They may have time to. If they don't when they find out the diversion on their first trip then they could radio it through?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2020, 05:50:23 PM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 08, 2020, 05:48:13 PM
As I live about five minutes walk from Powke Lane I can confirm notices have been up for weeks the road is to be partly closed. The diversion is clearly posted on the West Midlands Network website, the diversiery route is on the Sandwell Council website & I can confirm the 4M was following  THREE 4H's yesterday morning to be frank @Pat there is no excuse for any driver not being aware of the work being undertaken.

I have been working in Walsall garage both yesterday and today and can confirm there have been no 4H duplicates operated in the morning, and none was running exceptionally early/late
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:53:43 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 08, 2020, 05:00:07 PM
But why should drivers have to do this?  They may not have the time or facilities to check over someone else's work that should have been correct in the first place.  And how would you get corrected diversion sheets out to drivers.  In the case of the 4/H/M, it would be rather difficult I'd imagine.

Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 08, 2020, 05:48:13 PM
As I live about five minutes walk from Powke Lane I can confirm notices have been up for weeks the road is to be partly closed. The diversion is clearly posted on the West Midlands Network website, the diversiery route is on the Sandwell Council website & I can confirm the 4M was following  THREE 4H's yesterday morning to be frankly @Pat there is no excuse for any driver not being aware of the work being undertaken.

Also in this case it look like the fault is NX's and not WMN or the Councils.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 08, 2020, 05:57:36 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2020, 05:50:23 PM
I have been working in Walsall garage both yesterday and today and can confirm there have been no 4H duplicates operated in the morning, and none was running exceptionally early/late
You may have been working in Walsall garage yesterday & today @Tony but when I got the 4H on Monday morning at 7.28 I had two NXWM 4H, Diamond 4H which I boarded & a NXWM 4M in Coombes Road which I used to Sandwell Hospital which has been confirmed to me by a senior member of management of West Midlands Travel Limited. Before anyone posts I thought you went to QEHB I was going for GP Bloods.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:57:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2020, 05:50:23 PM
I have been working in Walsall garage both yesterday and today and can confirm there have been no 4H duplicates operated in the morning, and none was running exceptionally early/late

Well how do you explain the case from @WyreForestShuttle  then? If he was standing  at a bus stop on Coombes Wood and saw two or however may 4H going to Walsall, surely one must have been a duplicate or running late/early.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 08, 2020, 05:59:25 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:49:59 PM
They may have time to. If they don't when they find out the diversion on their first trip then they could radio it through?
My point being, the driver would have no reason to check the NWM website on their first trip, as they would be following their diversion sheet which they believe to be correct at the time of leaving the start point.
Yes, they can always radio through and most do.  I had this happen on a 79 once where other buses were continuing to use the diversion, but my bus went along the normal line of route without problem.  A message was then relayed over the radio by the controller for all vehicles to continue normal line of route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 06:03:39 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 08, 2020, 05:59:25 PM
My point being, the driver would have no reason to check the NWM website on their first trip, as they would be following their diversion sheet which they believe to be correct at the time of leaving the start point.
Yes, they can always radio through and most do.  I had this happen on a 79 once where other buses were continuing to use the diversion, but my bus went along the normal line of route without problem.  A message was then relayed over the radio by the controller for all vehicles to continue normal line of route.

Well maybe from now on this should be the second port of call for both the drivers and people how draw up the diversion sheets?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 08, 2020, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:57:57 PM
Well how do you explain the case from @WyreForestShuttle  then? If he was standing  at a bus stop on Coombes Wood and saw two or however may 4H going to Walsall, surely one must have been a duplicate or running late/early.
No need to pursue this @Bus Man K2 I have had to do a Conference Call in the course of my work with a senior member of West Midlands Travel Limited management today who has confirmed back to me I was correct. @Tony has more important things to do than worry about my 4H's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2020, 06:05:16 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:57:57 PM
Well how do you explain the case from @WyreForestShuttle  then? If he was standing  at a bus stop on Coombes Wood and saw two or however may 4H going to Walsall, surely one must have been a duplicate or running late/early.

Probably one of the X8s he 'didn't see' that did run in Blackheath.

Walsall garage also only were using Single decks as their dynamic spares as they haven't enough double decks for all the boards they want to use them on.

I can tell you where every Red/White trident was at that time, and two were running close to each other, but as I said one had come from Merry Hill and the other from Hayley Green. What I don't know is what was on the front.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 06:11:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2020, 06:05:16 PM
Probably one of the X8s he 'didn't see' that did run in Blackheath.

Walsall garage also only were using Single decks as their dynamic spares as they haven't enough double decks for all the boards they want to use them on.

I can tell you where every Red/White trident was at that time, and two were running close to each other, but as I said one had come from Merry Hill and the other from Hayley Green. What I don't know is what was on the front.

Now there's no need to bring up the X8 feasco again. The thing is though is that if he didn't see the X8 in Blackheath and then came across it later on along the route then surely that one would be running early so he's right to moan but maybe not to carry it on. Or for that matter anyway else.As I'm getting board of going over old stuff.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2020, 06:12:50 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 06:03:39 PM
Well maybe from now on this should be the second port of call for both the drivers and people how draw up the diversion sheets?

NXWM draw up their diversions from information provided from the people who are actually doing the roadworks.

For anyone to impose temporary traffic management they have to apply to the council to do so, and one of the conditions on the application form is that they notify bus companies. So National Express get a copy of this form (as do other bus companies affected).

Most of the councils do provided the information as well, but it is quite often roadworks are actioned on different days to what is applied for.
Birmingham Council are actually very good at asking if bus companies object to roadworks before granting permission. Obviously emergency roadworks like burst pipes are a different matter.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2020, 06:13:52 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 06:11:31 PM
Now there's no need to bring up the X8 feasco again. The thing is though is that if he didn't see the X8 in Blackheath and then came across it later on along the route then surely that one would be running early so he's right to moan but maybe not to carry it on. Or for that matter anyway else.As I'm getting board of going over old stuff.

Same as I am with your posts, blaming people for things without knowing facts
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on July 08, 2020, 06:14:04 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 05:57:57 PM
Well how do you explain the case from @WyreForestShuttle  then? If he was standing  at a bus stop on Coombes Wood and saw two or however may 4H going to Walsall, surely one must have been a duplicate or running late/early.

With respect, WyreForestShuttle's stories have time and time again proved to be fabricated, whether it's sightings of Diamond vehicles or NXWM vehicles. This is in reference to not only this occasion, but his sightings of a Coventry bus on the Birmingham 8A/8C, and his lies about X8's missing in the past. I also refer to his nonsense comments many months ago about what was running on the Diamond 4H, which was proven wrong by me.

As far as I'm concerned, anything he says has no credibility, whether it is on this forum or the RailForum (he has been called out on there too).

Perhaps we should ignore his sightings on what's late and what's not in future?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 06:15:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2020, 06:12:50 PM
NXWM draw up their diversions from information provided from the people who are actually doing the roadworks.

For anyone to impose temporary traffic management they have to apply to the council to do so, and one of the conditions on the application form is that they notify bus companies. So National Express get a copy of this form (as do other bus companies affected).

Most of the councils do provided the information as well, but it is quite often roadworks are actioned on different days to what is applied for.
Birmingham Council are actually very good at asking if bus companies object to roadworks before granting permission. Obviously emergency roadworks like burst pipes are a different matter.

Well obviously the Powke Lane divertion went un detected!! So surely they should make sure the sheet is correct before handing it out?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 08, 2020, 06:22:12 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 04:44:35 PM
Well  again maybe the Council didn't inform WMN and that's why there were no notices up on the bus stops.

They were informed. They have known since the 5th June
06/07/2020   23/08/2020         Powke Lane, Rowley Regis   Gas Works   3, 4M, 24   Operational Order Live   Yes   05/06/2020
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: MW on July 08, 2020, 06:14:04 PM
With respect, WyreForestShuttle's stories have time and time again proved to be fabricated, whether it's sightings of Diamond vehicles or NXWM vehicles. This is in reference to not only this occasion, but his sightings of a Coventry bus on the Birmingham 8A/8C, and his lies about X8's missing in the past. I also refer to his nonsense comments many months ago about what was running on the Diamond 4H, which was proven wrong by me.

As far as I'm concerned, anything he says has no credibility, whether it is on this forum or the RailForum (he has been called out on there too).

Perhaps we should ignore his sightings on what's late and what's not in future?
I know he can go on, but with some things he can be correct. yes I grant you some could seem a little out there, but shouldn't everyone take everything with a 'pinch of salt' however is commenting until it's backed up. By all means if  things are wrong then pick up on it but then don't respond any further if they don't believe it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 06:27:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 08, 2020, 06:22:12 PM
They were informed. They have known since the 5th June
06/07/2020   23/08/2020         Powke Lane, Rowley Regis   Gas Works   3, 4M, 24   Operational Order Live   Yes   05/06/2020

If that's the case then OK. However as all TFWM staff are working from home until further notice we can't moan at them for not informing passengers. Also the case is they are all working from home and also are not sending any information to contractors as they too aren't working. so to be honest this problem seems to have died the death.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 08, 2020, 06:27:28 PM
Quote from: MW on July 08, 2020, 06:14:04 PM
With respect, WyreForestShuttle's stories have time and time again proved to be fabricated, whether it's sightings of Diamond vehicles or NXWM vehicles. This is in reference to not only this occasion, but his sightings of a Coventry bus on the Birmingham 8A/8C, and his lies about X8's missing in the past. I also refer to his nonsense comments many months ago about what was running on the Diamond 4H, which was proven wrong by me.

As far as I'm concerned, anything he says has no credibility, whether it is on this forum or the RailForum (he has been called out on there too).

Perhaps we should ignore his sightings on what's late and what's not in future?
@MW the Travel Coventry Trident was on loan to BC at the time which was operating a 8E School Duplicate which I used. I never noticed the 226 branding on the Streetlites which I fully accepted on the 4H which competes with NXWM 4H from WA. As for Railforums I was pleased to put the record straight about comments about  Midland Red West Limited , First Midland Red Buses Limited & Diamond Bus Limited from posters who obviously never used the companies. As they used to say on Channel 4's NETWORK 7 - Fact is stranger than fiction judge for yourself what is the truth @MW !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 08, 2020, 06:45:01 PM
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on July 08, 2020, 06:27:28 PM
@MW the Travel Coventry Trident was on loan to BC at the time which was operating a 8E School Duplicate which I used. I never noticed the 226 branding on the Streetlites which I fully accepted on the 4H. As for Railforums I was pleased to put the record straight about comments about  Midland Red West Limited , First Midland Red Buses Limited & Diamond Bus Limited from posters who obviously never used the companies. As they used to say on Channel 4's NETWORK 7 - Fact is stranger than fiction judge for yourself what is the truth @MW !
I'd argue against the comments made on RailForums.  You can't prove that those posters have never used Diamond.  You obviously have an extremely biased outlook on Diamond, and argue that they can do no wrong and are superior to NX.  Surely as a TfWM insider, you know about all the AQPS regulations (that your authority drew up) that Diamond are breaking, yet refused to even acknowledge the extremely obvious fact that they were running vehicles around in previous operator livery.

Moderators, please excuse this off topic post.  I'm not going to say any more on the matter.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WyreForestShuttle on July 08, 2020, 06:54:42 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 08, 2020, 06:45:01 PM
I'd argue against the comments made on RailForums.  You can't prove that those posters have never used Diamond.  You obviously have an extremely biased outlook on Diamond, and argue that they can do no wrong and are superior to NX.  Surely as a TfWM insider, you know about all the AQPS regulations (that your authority drew up) that Diamond are breaking, yet refused to even acknowledge the extremely obvious fact that they were running vehicles around in previous operator livery.

Moderators, please excuse this off topic post.  I'm not going to say any more on the matter.
@Pat I have never worked for or have any direct connection with TfWM & have no insider knowledge of the organisation.As @WyreForestShuttle I have constantly praised National Express West Midlands for the excellent service they operate throughout the West Midlands especially on the 4H operated by WA on this forum & led the criticism of Diamond Bus over its withdrawal of the 303 & the company posting timetables and removing them subsequently and the company's position on Government support.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 09, 2020, 06:07:05 PM
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on July 08, 2020, 06:22:48 PM
I know he can go on, but with some things he can be correct. yes I grant you some could seem a little out there, but shouldn't everyone take everything with a 'pinch of salt' however is commenting until it's backed up. By all means if  things are wrong then pick up on it but then don't respond any further if they don't believe it.
You are just as bad! You are going on and on and its boring people... just like Blackheath Billy...

I already pointed out it was a 4M and 4H and Tony proved that one was from Hayley Green and the other from Mezza... and the Powke Lane roadworks have been advertised on the website for weeks, not NX though, for some reason they only put on longstanding closures/diversions...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on July 09, 2020, 07:43:22 PM
That's quite enough of all this bickering - this thread gets back on-topic from now on, or it won't just be posts getting removed from here...

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on July 12, 2020, 12:25:53 AM
Why has 6727 offside branding been removed

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6727.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on July 12, 2020, 09:42:03 AM
Quote from: SK68MEV on July 12, 2020, 12:25:53 AM
Why has 6727 offside branding been removed

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/5001-9959/6727.html
Replacement panels ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on July 12, 2020, 01:01:09 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on July 12, 2020, 09:42:03 AM
Replacement panels ?
yes it could be replacement panels
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 12, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
Quote from: SK68MEV on July 12, 2020, 01:01:09 PM
yes it could be replacement panels

Are they going to have Cannock added to the branding?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on July 13, 2020, 03:28:42 AM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on July 12, 2020, 02:46:45 PM
Are they going to have Cannock added to the branding?
@Tony could you provide us with more info whether it will Recieve Cannock branding or it was just replacement panels as I think you would know best
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 13, 2020, 06:35:43 AM
Quote from: SK68MEV on July 13, 2020, 03:28:42 AM
@Tony could you provide us with more info whether it will Recieve Cannock branding or it was just replacement panels as I think you would know best

Why would a one of bus receive branding on one side only with the other side having what would be an incorrect slogan on it "every 10 minutes"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 13, 2020, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 13, 2020, 06:35:43 AM
Why would a one of bus receive branding on one side only with the other side having what would be an incorrect slogan on it "every 10 minutes"

I wasn't referring to the panels on this bus, it was a general question timed wrongly or not clarified
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: SK68MEV on July 14, 2020, 01:15:24 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 13, 2020, 06:35:43 AM
Why would a one of bus receive branding on one side only with the other side having what would be an incorrect slogan on it "every 10 minutes"
sorry I didn't think that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on July 14, 2020, 03:25:16 PM
Does anyone know what times 4125 should be arriving in MH on the 4M (need to nip up after work for a few bits so I can get a snap of it if I time it right)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on July 14, 2020, 05:00:24 PM
I'm not sure but it did the 9:54 4H from Walsall earlier soo you could work it out if you look at the timetable
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 14, 2020, 05:14:06 PM
Quote from: Jack6101 on July 14, 2020, 05:00:24 PM
I'm not sure but it did the 9:54 4H from Walsall earlier soo you could work it out if you look at the timetable

Use Bustimes like others have. The 4 is one route that works on there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on July 14, 2020, 05:28:32 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 14, 2020, 05:14:06 PM
Use Bustimes like others have. The 4 is one route that works on there

4H/M doesn't track on there (as I checked on my lunch break) nor does the 11/A
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 14, 2020, 05:45:44 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 14, 2020, 05:28:32 PM
4H/M doesn't track on there (as I checked on my lunch break) nor does the 11/A

As I stated the 4 does track and 4125 is currently on the 4 (ps it will next be at Merry Hill at 20:02)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on July 14, 2020, 06:42:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 14, 2020, 05:45:44 PM
As I stated the 4 does track and 4125 is currently on the 4 (ps it will next be at Merry Hill at 20:02)
The 4/H/M interwork at Walsall if I'm not mistaken?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 14, 2020, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Pat on July 14, 2020, 06:42:10 PM
The 4/H/M interwork at Walsall if I'm not mistaken?
Prior to the lockdown they did on weekdays. Not sure if they still are during the current timetables.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 15, 2020, 10:40:27 AM
Is the X51 now back to every 20 mins? Nx website timetable is wrong
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 15, 2020, 12:22:50 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 15, 2020, 10:40:27 AM
Is the X51 now back to every 20 mins? Nx website timetable is wrong

Yes has been since the last increase. I did tell NX on Facebook but they insisted all the timetables on their site were correct.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on July 15, 2020, 02:38:49 PM
2957 seen on the back of a tow truck heading towards Birmingham on the Aston expressway any idea what's wrong with the bus?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 15, 2020, 02:44:43 PM
Quote from: Nxwm on July 15, 2020, 02:38:49 PM
2957 seen on the back of a tow truck heading towards Birmingham on the Aston expressway any idea what's wrong with the bus?

Nothing! Long story not yet sorted
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on July 24, 2020, 06:39:19 PM
Was too far away to ID but was certainly strange seeing one of WA's 4-branded Scanias in Sparkbrook this evening on Highgate Road, presumably on the 8C.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 24, 2020, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 24, 2020, 06:39:19 PM
Was too far away to ID but was certainly strange seeing one of WA's 4-branded Scanias in Sparkbrook this evening on Highgate Road, presumably on the 8C.

1854 - the only one still at BY
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on July 25, 2020, 02:13:02 PM
Saw a decker on the stafford road yesterday towards Cannock bus station, away from Huntington/Stafford. Driver training perhaps or route testing?  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 29, 2020, 01:37:30 PM
4601 on 4M
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on July 29, 2020, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 29, 2020, 01:37:30 PM
4601 on 4M

Nothing new 4599 and 4595 also on there to
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on August 11, 2020, 06:06:56 PM
Noticed something odd on Bloxwich High Street... there's two route descriptions for the 31, one of which says via West Brom?? Confused.com
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 20, 2020, 07:29:04 AM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on August 11, 2020, 06:06:56 PM
Noticed something odd on Bloxwich High Street... there's two route descriptions for the 31, one of which says via West Brom?? Confused.com

And the Wolverhampton Road stop too, which is also missing details for the 70, on poster, on sign & RTI!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Nxwm on August 29, 2020, 01:15:39 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 15, 2020, 02:44:43 PM
Nothing! Long story not yet sorted

Is 2957 sorted yet @Tony ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on September 24, 2020, 10:25:13 AM
4125 not long left Perry Barr for Walsall on 51 if anyone's interested
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 24, 2020, 04:34:31 PM
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 24, 2020, 10:25:13 AM
4125 not long left Perry Barr for Walsall on 51 if anyone's interested

Another addition 4601 is on W41-04 it will then be on X51, 997 from 1715 Walsall and spend the night on 934E to Pheasey church out till 0030.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: bususer28 on September 26, 2020, 06:52:57 PM
Has the 45 moved from WB to Walsall as I was in West Brom today and saw at least 4 Wright Eclipses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 26, 2020, 07:08:04 PM
Quote from: bususer28 on September 26, 2020, 06:52:57 PM
Has the 45 moved from WB to Walsall as I was in West Brom today and saw at least 4 Wright Eclipses.

It's been at Walsall for ages
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: bususer28 on September 26, 2020, 07:59:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 26, 2020, 07:08:04 PM
It's been at Walsall for ages
Oh right! I should probably pay more attention.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 27, 2020, 12:29:46 PM
Didn't the 45 move back to WB during the early part of the pandemic then came back to WA later, or am I thinking of another route?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 27, 2020, 08:54:18 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 27, 2020, 12:29:46 PM
Didn't the 45 move back to WB during the early part of the pandemic then came back to WA later, or am I thinking of another route?

Yes think it moved April then returned to WA 24 May 2020.

I think WB still do Early morning and evening journeys.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 10, 2020, 02:33:04 PM
Ran into an old workmate I hadn't seen for a good 20 years (She & her now ex boyfriend used to give me a lift home when I first started work!).

She has been working at NX Walsall for the past few years, I suspect on the Bradford Place rota, as she knows my other friend who I've mentioned on the odd occasion.

(Sadly I gather 'other friend ' has been off sick since all this kicked off!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on December 17, 2020, 12:50:02 PM
Saw 4125 on Moor Street Queensway on the 51 earlier. With a Scania on the 997 - 1890 I think.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 08, 2021, 03:32:26 PM
Ive got to get an X51 to brum from Cannock tomorrow. Are the flyover roadworks etc creating much of a delay?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 08, 2021, 03:39:25 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 08, 2021, 03:32:26 PM
Ive got to get an X51 to brum from Cannock tomorrow. Are the flyover roadworks etc creating much of a delay?

Not too bad at all today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 16, 2021, 03:49:08 PM
X51 rerouted in Cannock from 21st March to serve the new designer village
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Busboy105 on February 16, 2021, 05:16:37 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2021, 03:49:08 PM
X51 rerouted in Cannock from 21st March to serve the new designer village
Am I the only one who's surprised at how well the X51 is doing at the Cannock section?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 16, 2021, 05:20:09 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2021, 03:49:08 PM
X51 rerouted in Cannock from 21st March to serve the new designer village

We all knew that was coming. Chaserider have said the 60A will run through it (assuming no changes) didn't mention the 3 which passes it. How will it run Tony, as an extension from Cannock? Will all journeys serve there?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 16, 2021, 05:30:16 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 16, 2021, 05:20:09 PM
We all knew that was coming. Chaserider have said the 60A will run through it (assuming no changes) didn't mention the 3 which passes it. How will it run Tony, as an extension from Cannock? Will all journeys serve there?

Didn't all know it was coming. The designer village owners put a wedge of money out to tender for operators to serve there and NX won the tender
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 16, 2021, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2021, 05:30:16 PM
Didn't all know it was coming. The designer village owners put a wedge of money out to tender for operators to serve there and NX won the tender

So Chaserider can still run through but commercially? When will NX release the new route?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 16, 2021, 06:34:17 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 16, 2021, 06:32:07 PM
So Chaserider can still run through but commercially? When will NX release the new route?

Yes, but the money almost certainly guarantees the X51 to Cannock will run for the next 3 years
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 16, 2021, 07:14:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 16, 2021, 05:30:16 PM
Didn't all know it was coming. The designer village owners put a wedge of money out to tender for operators to serve there and NX won the tender

Just the X51 or any other routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on February 16, 2021, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: Busboy105 on February 16, 2021, 05:16:37 PM
Am I the only one who's surprised at how well the X51 is doing at the Cannock section?
How do you know it's doing so well?  Just because it's been routed to serve the Designer Outlet, doesn't necessarily mean it's doing well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: fleetline6477 on February 16, 2021, 09:08:01 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 16, 2021, 07:50:50 PM
How do you know it's doing so well?  Just because it's been routed to serve the Designer Outlet, doesn't necessarily mean it's doing well.

If it was doing well the Cannock section would either be cut back in frequency or withdrawn.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 18, 2021, 01:35:48 PM
Buses in Cannock on a Sunday

X51 goes 7 days a week from 21st March
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 18, 2021, 02:22:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2021, 01:35:48 PM
Buses in Cannock on a Sunday

X51 goes 7 days a week from 21st March

This will make a lot of people very happy
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: metrocity on February 18, 2021, 05:52:44 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 18, 2021, 02:22:04 PM
This will make a lot of people very happy
As a result of S106 funding from the McArthurGlen developers apparently. Hopefully enough people use it to ensure its sustainable to operate commercially once the funding runs out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 18, 2021, 06:19:12 PM
Quote from: metrocity on February 18, 2021, 05:52:44 PM
As a result of S106 funding from the McArthurGlen developers apparently. Hopefully enough people use it to ensure its sustainable to operate commercially once the funding runs out.

Hopefully it will build a structure for other services if its viable. For example a connection between Cannock and Lichfield which will both have Sunday services. I'm sure having connections helps passenger numbers. Cannock train station is walking distance from the village so a threat there for bus operators, to an extent.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 18, 2021, 06:51:29 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 18, 2021, 02:22:04 PM
This will make a lot of people very happy

Bloxwich to Birmingham on a Sunday without changing buses (once this 'crap' is over!)

That will do for me!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: metrocity on February 18, 2021, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 18, 2021, 06:51:29 PM
Bloxwich to Birmingham on a Sunday without changing buses (once this 'crap' is over!)

That will do for me!
The last I heard unless something has changed is that the Sunday X51 will be Walsall - Cannock only
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 18, 2021, 07:07:25 PM
Quote from: metrocity on February 18, 2021, 07:02:05 PM
The last I heard unless something has changed is that the Sunday X51 will be Walsall - Cannock only

Not correct, it goes to Birmingham. As there is already a Birmingham-Walsall Sunday X51 why would you have two separate services?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 18, 2021, 07:25:50 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 18, 2021, 06:19:12 PM
Hopefully it will build a structure for other services if its viable. For example a connection between Cannock and Lichfield which will both have Sunday services. I'm sure having connections helps passenger numbers. Cannock train station is walking distance from the village so a threat there for bus operators, to an extent.

How about possibly extending the 937 onwards from Brownhills West as well via the Chaserider 3?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 18, 2021, 07:28:17 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 18, 2021, 07:25:50 PM
How about possibly extending the 937 onwards from Brownhills West as well via the Chaserider 3?

Do you really think now is a good time to be spending hundreds of thousands of pounds a year competing?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: metrocity on February 18, 2021, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2021, 07:07:25 PM
Not correct, it goes to Birmingham. As there is already a Birmingham-Walsall Sunday X51 why would you have two separate services?
I did wonder !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 18, 2021, 08:14:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2021, 07:28:17 PM
Do you really think now is a good time to be spending hundreds of thousands of pounds a year competing?

Just a suggestion!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 18, 2021, 11:12:27 PM
Will the X51 be rerouted via Turnberry Estate to provide a replacement service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 19, 2021, 03:43:26 AM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 18, 2021, 11:12:27 PM
Will the X51 be rerouted via Turnberry Estate to provide a replacement service?

I've heard that it will be, but I don't think it's been confirmed by NX as of yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2021, 06:06:10 AM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on February 18, 2021, 11:12:27 PM
Will the X51 be rerouted via Turnberry Estate to provide a replacement service?

Yes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 19, 2021, 10:53:21 AM
Apart from Cheslyn Hay to Walsall & my bit of Leamore, no need for the 2 to come back!

Sorry Chaserider,  brave try!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 19, 2021, 05:33:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 19, 2021, 06:06:10 AM
Yes

Woah that will add journey time. Will the X51 run later in evenings? Any changes to the route elsewhere? When will the timetables be posted? Sorry for all the questions!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 06:24:35 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 19, 2021, 10:53:21 AM
Apart from Cheslyn Hay to Walsall & my bit of Leamore, no need for the 2 to come back!

Sorry Chaserider,  brave try!
I'd say the 70 (D&G) has a chance of being cut back to the Scotlands, but isn't the New cross section a contract?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 19, 2021, 06:51:12 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 06:24:35 PM
I'd say the 70 (D&G) has a chance of being cut back to the Scotlands, but isn't the New cross section a contract?

Is there anything of note at The Scotlands?

The WN 11 stops there doesn't it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2021, 06:57:28 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 06:24:35 PM
I'd say the 70 (D&G) has a chance of being cut back to the Scotlands, but isn't the New cross section a contract?

Having caught the 70 home a few times, and driven it in the past I would say not. The vast majority of its trade seems to be Wolverhampton to Featherstone, without that the route would be completely useless
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2021, 06:58:01 PM
X51 timetable attached
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 07:00:12 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 19, 2021, 06:57:28 PM
Having caught the 70 home a few times, and driven it in the past I would say not. The vast majority of its trade seems to be Wolverhampton to Featherstone, without that the route would be completely useless
I would have thought Canock to Featherstone is the been better section, but since New cross has been added I'm not so sure
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2021, 07:03:13 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 07:00:12 PM
I would have thought Canock to Featherstone is the been better section, but since New cross has been added I'm not so sure

No, Featherstone people tend to head to Wolverhampton, far more there than Cannock at the moment
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 07:10:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 19, 2021, 07:03:13 PM
No, Featherstone people tend to head to Wolverhampton, far more there than Cannock at the moment
The people of Featherstone have always relied on the 70 as it's the most direct bus link to Wolverhampton! I think that was partly why the 154 didn't last.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 19, 2021, 07:12:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 19, 2021, 06:58:01 PM
X51 timetable attached

Thanks have you got a route map? Unfortunate it won't be every 20 mins week days but cant complain at every half hour Sundays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2021, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 19, 2021, 07:12:01 PM
Thanks have you got a route map?
No
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on February 19, 2021, 07:14:01 PM
Will the X51 shorts still run? And will the interworking with the 997 change?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 19, 2021, 08:25:56 PM
Looks like the equivalent of those later journeys that ran from Walsall to Brum & back(wasn't the service out as late as half 10 / 11pm?) have gone, but it looks like the old 2e journeys have mostly been replaced.

Presumably the likes of the 8am from Walsall to Cannock on Sunday are mainly for the employees to get there, again with the 1853 back from Cannock?

Also note the service also serves the Orbital Retail Park as well!

It's also nice to see that the tendered Service 31 journeys that Diamond run on Sunday mornings don't appear to be affected either.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 19, 2021, 08:31:00 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 19, 2021, 08:25:56 PM
Looks like the equivalent of those later journeys that ran from Walsall to Brum & back(wasn't the service out as late as half 10 / 11pm?)
All the current short journeys aren't shown on that timetable. If they are all going, I wander if they will have enough spare platinums to make the 51 platinum?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2021, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 19, 2021, 08:25:56 PM
Looks like the equivalent of those later journeys that ran from Walsall to Brum & back(wasn't the service out as late as half 10 / 11pm?) have gone, but it looks like the old 2e journeys have mostly been replaced.

Presumably the likes of the 8am from Walsall to Cannock on Sunday are mainly for the employees to get there, again with the 1853 back from Cannock?

Also note the service also serves the Orbital Retail Park as well!

It's also nice to see that the tendered Service 31 journeys that Diamond run on Sunday mornings don't appear to be affected either.

That is only the Cannock service. The X51 isn't going down to every 30 minutes between Birmingham & Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 19, 2021, 08:42:05 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 19, 2021, 08:25:56 PM

Also note the service also serves the Orbital Retail Park as well!


Yeah interesting it will be doing that as Arriva ran a circular service round the orbital and apparently it wasn't well used. Probably just OAPs doing their shopping. Certainly useful though!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Cheese on February 19, 2021, 09:05:38 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 19, 2021, 08:42:05 PM
Yeah interesting it will be doing that as Arriva ran a circular service round the orbital and apparently it wasn't well used. Probably just OAPs doing their shopping. Certainly useful though!

That was run using S106 funding from Kingswood Lakeside, without the funding the service would likely not have operated past there. Or at all probably.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 19, 2021, 09:43:54 PM
Quote from: Cheese on February 19, 2021, 09:05:38 PM
That was run using S106 funding from Kingswood Lakeside, without the funding the service would likely not have operated past there. Or at all probably.

From memory, as I don't go that way very often, doesn't serving the Retail Park mean a massive diversion from the 'main road'/nearest main bus route?

It was a one way system in & out ISTR.

We're not talking a 5 minute diversion in & out on the Walsall to Beechdale service, to serve their Sainsburys & adjecent retail park are we?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 19, 2021, 09:57:39 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 19, 2021, 09:43:54 PM
From memory, as I don't go that way very often, doesn't serving the Retail Park mean a massive diversion from the 'main road'/nearest main bus route?

It was a one way system in & out ISTR.

We're not talking a 5 minute diversion in & out on the Walsall to Beechdale service, to serve their Sainsburys & adjecent retail park are we?
It probably adds 2 minutes maximum to the journey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 10:02:54 PM
Quote from: l.murphy123 on February 19, 2021, 08:42:05 PM
Yeah interesting it will be doing that as Arriva ran a circular service round the orbital and apparently it wasn't well used. Probably just OAPs doing their shopping. Certainly useful though!
The 19 & 20 yes! Ran from 2015-2016, it served the Bevan Lee estate (No longer served) which was previously served by the 62! It also replaced the short lived service 34 (32 replacement) if my memory is correct!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on February 19, 2021, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 06:24:35 PM
I'd say the 70 (D&G) has a chance of being cut back to the Scotlands, but isn't the New cross section a contract?
Why?  Would completely put people off using the bus, as they'd have to change for an 11.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 10:51:44 PM
Quote from: Pat on February 19, 2021, 10:24:15 PM
Why?  Would completely put people off using the bus, as they'd have to change for an 11.
They did the same for the 3!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 20, 2021, 08:37:24 AM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 10:51:44 PM
They did the same for the 3!

The 3 was completely different, virtually no through passengers on it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on February 20, 2021, 12:29:49 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on February 19, 2021, 10:51:44 PM
They did the same for the 3!
But you've got plenty services/shops in Brownhills for people to travel to, whereas there's practically nothing in The Scotlands.

Just because they've done it for one route, doesn't mean they have to to it for all routes.  There's so much more than just looking at a route map and choosing somewhere random to curtail to.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on February 20, 2021, 04:26:14 PM
Brownhills is a natural turning point as opposed to the Scotlands.

It's like when the 3 was the 289 and NX cut it at Old Hill. To me, the natural turning point would have been Cradley or Rowley Hospital but had it done the latter it would have left half of Brickhouse Farm unserved and the former would have required a extra bus.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 20, 2021, 04:56:11 PM
How much of a walk is the section of the X51 route from both Walsall Road & Cheslyn Hay & parts of Landywood, assuming there will be no change to the X51, as it goes 'down the middle' anyway, into Hilton Lane(I think?) ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 20, 2021, 09:59:18 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 20, 2021, 04:56:11 PM
How much of a walk is the section of the X51 route from both Walsall Road & Cheslyn Hay & parts of Landywood, assuming there will be no change to the X51, as it goes 'down the middle' anyway, into Hilton Lane(I think?) ?

About 10 mins from top of Cheslyn Hay, Upper Landywood about the same worst case, relatively central though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
Didn't know WA did the 4H on a Sunday???
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 21, 2021, 03:42:47 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2021, 03:02:03 PM
Didn't know WA did the 4H on a Sunday???

They don't!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2021, 10:03:36 PM
I could have sworn I saw a WA style B7RLE on the 4H. Would have been at 2:00 in Hayley green area
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 21, 2021, 10:12:50 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2021, 10:03:36 PM
I could have sworn I saw a WA style B7RLE on the 4H. Would have been at 2:00 in Hayley green area

Well you didn't
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on February 21, 2021, 10:16:25 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2021, 10:03:36 PM
I could have sworn I saw a WA style B7RLE on the 4H. Would have been at 2:00 in Hayley green area

PN do the 4H on a sunday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on February 21, 2021, 10:17:14 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 21, 2021, 10:03:36 PM
I could have sworn I saw a WA style B7RLE on the 4H. Would have been at 2:00 in Hayley green area

You should know PN runs evening and Sunday 4Hs... Why would Walsall send a bus all the way to Halesowen just to operate the Halesowen to Hayley Green route...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 21, 2021, 11:56:06 PM
Tony I assume then the X51 will do a one way loop round Cannock Orbital as the KFC entrance is one-way? Also assuming the designer village shops don't open on 21st March due to covid, will it just skip that?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 22, 2021, 06:18:39 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 21, 2021, 10:12:50 PM
Well you didn't

Blunt as usual
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on February 22, 2021, 10:17:55 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 22, 2021, 06:18:39 AM
Blunt as usual

The thing is you know Walsall don't operate the 4H on a Sunday and it could of been a pensnett b7, theres too much dead milage between Halesowen and Walsall plus the 4H InterWorks with the 14 evenings and Sundays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 22, 2021, 10:51:05 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 22, 2021, 06:18:39 AM
Blunt as usual
Ever realised WA and PE have the exact same Urban 2 B7's? Surprised you wasnt looking at the tracker because 2097 was apparently on there 🤔
Think that answers your question...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 22, 2021, 10:54:06 AM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on February 22, 2021, 10:17:55 AM
The thing is you know Walsall don't operate the 4H on a Sunday and it could of been a pensnett b7, theres too much dead milage between Halesowen and Walsall plus the 4H InterWorks with the 14 evenings and Sundays

I've been following the lockdown rules and therefore don't have a clue what goes on anymore! Excuse me for following the rules and therefore not leaving the house much. If only others followed the rules we would have been out of lockdown ages ago!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 22, 2021, 11:05:22 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 22, 2021, 10:54:06 AM
I've been following the lockdown rules and therefore don't have a clue what goes on anymore! Excuse me for following the rules and therefore not leaving the house much. If only others followed the rules we would have been out of lockdown ages ago!

That's a coincidence, as this Flickr account seems to have been very active in the Huntingree Road, Whitley Avenue, Stourbridge Road areas of Hasbury:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/189323366@N05/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 22, 2021, 11:29:09 AM
Quote from: Winston on February 22, 2021, 11:05:22 AM
That's a coincidence, as this Flickr account seems to have been very active in the Huntingree Road, Whitley Avenue, Stourbridge Road areas of Hasbury:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/189323366@N05/

Hate to tell you buddy but:
A) I don't take pictures of buses
B) my names not Kieran

But good one winston nice try
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on February 22, 2021, 11:48:16 AM
Quote from: Winston on February 22, 2021, 11:05:22 AM
That's a coincidence, as this Flickr account seems to have been very active in the Huntingree Road, Whitley Avenue, Stourbridge Road areas of Hasbury:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/189323366@N05/

I believe the person who owns that Flickr account lives in that area
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 22, 2021, 11:52:43 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 22, 2021, 11:48:16 AM
I believe the person who owns that Flickr account lives in that area

No way! Really...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 22, 2021, 12:19:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 21, 2021, 10:12:50 PM
Well you didn't
Why didn't you just tell him it was PN that did it ? There was no need for that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 22, 2021, 12:39:57 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 22, 2021, 12:19:16 PM
Why didn't you just tell him it was PN that did it ? There was no need for that

Because he knows it is PN that operate it, he has posted about it enough times.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: l.murphy123 on February 22, 2021, 12:55:22 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 22, 2021, 12:19:16 PM
Why didn't you just tell him it was PN that did it ? There was no need for that

People lick admins arses because they are scared to be kicked off despite  their attitude, no manners at all. Change it or we will all leave.

Adios then! Winston
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 09, 2021, 11:37:11 PM
Notice the X51 new timetable now available on the website.

Do we have a breakdown of the exact route available?

Does the service serve Cannock Sainsburys in both directions,  as it's one way in that area?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on March 10, 2021, 12:18:13 AM
 Not only is the X51 being amended but the 997 is changing to every 20 mins to walsall, alternate 20 mins to Deers Leap. Hopefully this means the end of the interworking with the 997 shorts alternating with the Walsall's to get drivers to relief. Should help improve reliability and I wonder if it will grow patronage on the full section.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 10, 2021, 12:27:13 AM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on March 10, 2021, 12:18:13 AM
Not only is the X51 being amended but the 997 is changing to every 20 mins to walsall, alternate 20 mins to Deers Leap. Hopefully this means the end of the interworking with the 997 shorts alternating with the Walsall's to get drivers to relief. Should help improve reliability and I wonder if it will grow patronage on the full section.
About time the full 997 goes to every 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 11, 2021, 05:22:31 PM
Just had a look at the Sunday early timetable for the X51 & compared it with the same early journeys for the 31 on Sundays.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems possible to get from Bloxwich to Brum as early as 730am, changing at Walsall from a Diamond 31 to an Nx X51, with a few minutes gap.

Are those Diamond journeys tendered?

If so, how is the patronage from Mossley on those journeys, because I'm thinking, next time those journeys come up, whether NX might be with a chance of getting those journeys instead & linking those journeys to those first few X51 journeys, as I believe it was said in the past along the lines of tenders could be won, if it was easy to add those tendered journeys to the front of commercial journeys?

Anyone willing to have a look & see what they think?

(I'm assuming the 31 & 32 are still on the January 2021 timetables, as they haven't changed since!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 11, 2021, 05:48:55 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 11, 2021, 05:22:31 PM
Just had a look at the Sunday early timetable for the X51 & compared it with the same early journeys for the 31 on Sundays.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems possible to get from Bloxwich to Brum as early as 730am, changing at Walsall from a Diamond 31 to an Nx X51, with a few minutes gap.

Are those Diamond journeys tendered?

If so, how is the patronage from Mossley on those journeys, because I'm thinking, next time those journeys come up, whether NX might be with a chance of getting those journeys instead & linking those journeys to those first few X51 journeys, as I believe it was said in the past along the lines of tenders could be won, if it was easy to add those tendered journeys to the front of commercial journeys?

Anyone willing to have a look & see what they think?

(I'm assuming the 31 & 32 are still on the January 2021 timetables, as they haven't changed since!)

No Journies on the 31/32 of either operator are tendered.

It is a joint timetable between the two operators fully commercial and done to be the most efficient for both operators
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on March 12, 2021, 01:54:09 PM
Confirmation of revised X51 between Bloxwich and Cannock:
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/service-997-x51-and-x529-changes

QuoteThe route in Bloxwich will serve Bloxwich Road, Bloxwich High Street, Wolverhampton Road, Broad Lane, Turnberry Road and Stafford Road.
Between Walsall Road (A5 junction) and Cannock, buses will serve Voyager Drive and Orbital Way (for the Orbital Retail Park), Eastern Way and Lichfield Road.
The X51 will no longer serve the A5, Delta Way or Walsall Road directly.

I'm not familiar with the area, I presume there will be stops on Lichfield Road for access to the new designer outlet park.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 12, 2021, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 12, 2021, 01:54:09 PM
Confirmation of revised X51 between Bloxwich and Cannock:
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/service-997-x51-and-x529-changes

I'm not familiar with the area, I presume there will be stops on Lichfield Road for access to the new designer outlet park.

There's already bus stops on Lichfield Road, but once the designer village is open buses will go into the actual village
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on March 16, 2021, 03:00:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 12, 2021, 02:05:49 PM
There's already bus stops on Lichfield Road, but once the designer village is open buses will go into the actual village

Wonder if itll improve patronage. Hopefully
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 16, 2021, 09:33:01 PM
They've started to update the timetable posters along the route now.

(Well the West Midlands bit at least.  Don't know about the Staffs bit, as the person who would know is no longer with us!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on March 19, 2021, 12:51:13 PM
How come the Walsall 7/7A are booked platinum? As for the last 4 days the 4 day boards have all been platinum spec vehicles.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 19, 2021, 12:58:20 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on March 19, 2021, 12:51:13 PM
How come the Walsall 7/7A are booked platinum? As for the last 4 days the 4 day boards have all been platinum spec vehicles.

So what should the spare platinums be doing then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Fox 4846 on March 19, 2021, 07:16:00 PM
I would've thought they would be best suited to the city's such as the 51 board that does the 997 evening shorts or even instead of tridents on city's. I have no problem I just thought it odd that all 4 boards are regularly booked all platinum when there are tridents and enviros on the city's all the time. And also I'm not intending to start an argument however I just asked a question based on an observation there is no need to imply attitude with belittling questions as you could have just said there is enough spare to cover for instance.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 19, 2021, 07:35:05 PM
I think 4125 was on 51 according to bus times today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 19, 2021, 07:38:01 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 19, 2021, 07:35:05 PM
I think 4125 was on 51 according to bus times today

It's normally first choice for the 51s out of all the tridents.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on March 19, 2021, 08:20:21 PM
Quote from: The Fox 4846 on March 19, 2021, 07:16:00 PM
you could have just said there is enough spare to cover for instance.

You've just answered your own question. Because if there wasn't enough 'spare' they wouldn't be allocated.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 19, 2021, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 19, 2021, 07:38:01 PM
It's normally first choice for the 51s out of all the tridents.

Think I recall seeing it in Walsall 7am this morning!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 20, 2021, 08:58:26 AM
Quote from: Westy on March 19, 2021, 08:21:31 PM
Think I recall seeing it in Walsall 7am this morning!
It's on the 51 most days of the week, as are most of the Trident's now, don't exactly understand what's happened to all the E400's the last few months but the 51 now just gets dumped with any Decker and any Euro Compliant Single, the peak 51's this week have all been Scania's this week which is absolute joke when you want to put social distancing into account. I know I'm ranting here but the 51 and most other routes I've noticed just get dumped with anything now. It makes no sense when there's Single Deckers doing peak boards but according to yesterday on the tracker 6713 was out on the 70A. There's suppose to 9 branded E400's but its usually 3/4 with a pair of unbranded ones and a load of Tridents (usually 3/4). I love having the Tridents on the 51 but I don't really understand why all of a sudden the E400's have gone. I don't understand why the spare Platinums can't be used on the peak 51's instead of the Single Deckers, shoving Single Deckers out on busy double deck routes during peak times is a joke and then being waiting passengers left behind at bus stops which I've seen a few times this week on the Walsall Road.

Rant over
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 20, 2021, 11:28:04 AM
Yeah , I remember seeing a Plattie on the 7's & 70's this week.

The thing is, you can't complain too much, as at least you're getting a bus!

What sort of level of service is it supposed to be,  if there is spare Platinums in the first place?

It's not Sunday service, or that level of service you got last spring/summer, where you got Platinums on the 31& even the 4 & 34, & it's not proper non covid service level either?

(Not Walsall of course, but the service level on the 529 even went down to half hourly during the day as well.  That's got to be the worst frequency Covid related  so far!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 20, 2021, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: Westy on March 20, 2021, 11:28:04 AM
Yeah , I remember seeing a Plattie on the 7's & 70's this week.

The thing is, you can't complain too much, as at least you're getting a bus!

What sort of level of service is it supposed to be,  if there is spare Platinums in the first place?

It's not Sunday service, or that level of service you got last spring/summer, where you got Platinums on the 31& even the 4 & 34, & it's not proper non covid service level either?

(Not Walsall of course, but the service level on the 529 even went down to half hourly during the day as well.  That's got to be the worst frequency Covid related  so far!)
But it makes no sense to shove Deckers on services that don't need them at all really, 7/7A, 29/70/70A etc. But then shove a Single Decker on a service that can't cope.

No, you aren't getting a bus if it is a single decker that sails past your stop with a full load.

Platinum's were used in the first lockdown because of the mass service reductions and using the vehicles that were lowest on fuel to reduce costs on fuel. Even after that lockdown ended Deckers were used on those services for a while and the 51 was still having Deckers as there was enough of them. Even with Walsall now having a few more 43** Tridents it somehow meant that the buses used on the 41 have now made themselves onto busy double deck services, after watching the tracker. I don't think Walsall has a shortage of Deckers, they are just being used on the services that don't require them, even in peaks yet you have the Birmingham services getting Omnilinks and Urban 2's in the peak time at max capacity.

You're one to talk about not complaining, I don't forget the constant 11/11A's supposedly running late daily, oh but you was still about to get on the bus, whereas the 51 will sail past because its a rammed Single Decker...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on March 20, 2021, 11:56:16 AM
Be careful Tony looks like Jack is after your job.🤣🤣
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2021, 12:02:49 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 20, 2021, 11:42:19 AM
But it makes no sense to shove Deckers on services that don't need them at all really, 7/7A, 29/70/70A etc. But then shove a Single Decker on a service that can't cope.


Please don't make comments you know nothing about.

The 7 suffers some of the most overcrowding of any Walsall route on certain journies.

Some 29 journies require double decks as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 20, 2021, 12:19:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 20, 2021, 12:02:49 PM
Please don't make comments you know nothing about.

The 7 suffers some of the most overcrowding of any Walsall route on certain journies.

Some 29 journies require double decks as well
'Certain journies'... the 6/7/7A have a 10 minute frequency between Walsall and Aldridge, I can't quite see how Castlefort exactly fills a fast double decker up let alone a single. I've even used the odd 7 in the peak before the lockdown and it wouldn't be rammed, and it usually empties out by the time its at Aldridge, leaving a quarter of passengers aboard for Castlefort. In peak times even a Single Deck would suffice. The 7/7A were single deckers a few years ago and they coped from my remembrance with the 6 easing them out with the Deckers.

I understand with the 29 at peaks but it's absolutely stupid because that same Decker then goes onto the 70A after arriving into Walsall and is wasted, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2021, 12:26:42 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 20, 2021, 12:19:24 PM
'Certain journies'... the 6/7/7A have a 10 minute frequency between Walsall and Aldridge, I can't quite see how Castlefort exactly fills a fast double decker up let alone a single. I've even used the odd 7 in the peak before the lockdown and it wouldn't be rammed, and it usually empties out by the time its at Aldridge, leaving a quarter of passengers aboard for Castlefort. In peak times even a Single Deck would suffice. The 7/7A were single deckers a few years ago and they coped from my remembrance with the 6 easing them out with the Deckers.

I understand with the 29 at peaks but it's absolutely stupid because that same Decker then goes onto the 70A after arriving into Walsall and is wasted, in my opinion.

Try catching a number 7 around 08:30 or 15:00. I presume you are such a skilled scheduler you could do better than the NX ones at rearranging timetables and running boards to avoid the emptier trips and find trips that needed those deckers in the middle of the day that are currently booked single decks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 20, 2021, 12:29:23 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 20, 2021, 11:42:19 AM
But it makes no sense to shove Deckers on services that don't need them at all really, 7/7A, 29/70/70A etc. But then shove a Single Decker on a service that can't cope.

No, you aren't getting a bus if it is a single decker that sails past your stop with a full load.

Platinum's were used in the first lockdown because of the mass service reductions and using the vehicles that were lowest on fuel to reduce costs on fuel. Even after that lockdown ended Deckers were used on those services for a while and the 51 was still having Deckers as there was enough of them. Even with Walsall now having a few more 43** Tridents it somehow meant that the buses used on the 41 have now made themselves onto busy double deck services, after watching the tracker. I don't think Walsall has a shortage of Deckers, they are just being used on the services that don't require them, even in peaks yet you have the Birmingham services getting Omnilinks and Urban 2's in the peak time at max capacity.

You're one to talk about not complaining, I don't forget the constant 11/11A's supposedly running late daily, oh but you was still about to get on the bus, whereas the 51 will sail past because its a rammed Single Decker...

Have you ever had to wait up to an hour on one occasion, mainly half an hour on most occasions, to get a 51?

I did on the 11/11a, and it was a similar sort of frequency supposedly to the 51, even without help from the X51!

And I bet the local authority cut the trees down, so you could run double deckers all the time, instead of being rammed on a single decker!

I'm old enough to remember double deckers on the Dudley corridor on a regular basis, basically as it was rare to see the Pte single deckers out in service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 20, 2021, 01:10:59 PM
Is there any reason why the 31/32 branded seem to be escaping onto other single deck routes?

I  can understand swopping single deck & double decks round , to give a better balance but surely the 31/32's should be staying on their own routes, or is this down to parking in the depot again?

(There's only 6 for Nx isn't there, with 5 operational currently,  & surely the  Pvr currently for both Nx & Diamond is more than that?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 20, 2021, 01:23:06 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 20, 2021, 01:10:59 PM
Is there any reason why the 31/32 branded seem to be escaping onto other single deck routes?

I  can understand swopping single deck & double decks round , to give a better balance but surely the 31/32's should be staying on their own routes, or is this down to parking in the depot again?

(There's only 6 for Nx isn't there, with 5 operational currently,  & surely the  Pvr currently for both Nx & Diamond is more than that?)

There was one on the 4H yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Fred on March 20, 2021, 05:12:43 PM
Walsall was a shocker today.

These noted in a 45 min window in Walsall this afternoon.

1854 on 8
1766 on 31
1880 on 8A
2118 on 31
2130 on 29
4605 on 51
4863 on 997
4866 on 10
6717 on 7
6718 on 7A
6746 on X51

Lots more wrong allocations noted on bustimes.

This amount of wrong allocation is just being slack. I'm sure the NXWM can do no wrong camp will try and claim lots of reasons, but there are just far too many.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on March 20, 2021, 05:50:07 PM
Quote from: Fred on March 20, 2021, 05:12:43 PM
Walsall was a shocker today.

These noted in a 45 min window in Walsall this afternoon.

1854 on 8
1766 on 31
1880 on 8A
2118 on 31
2130 on 29
4605 on 51
4863 on 997
4866 on 10
6717 on 7
6718 on 7A
6746 on X51

Lots more wrong allocations noted on bustimes.

This amount of wrong allocation is just being slack. I'm sure the NXWM can do no wrong camp will try and claim lots of reasons, but there are just far too many.

Did any of these that you noted from your armchair affect your life in any way, shape or form?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2021, 06:07:26 PM
Quote from: Fred on March 20, 2021, 05:12:43 PM
Walsall was a shocker today.

These noted in a 45 min window in Walsall this afternoon.

1854 on 8
1766 on 31
1880 on 8A
2118 on 31
2130 on 29
4605 on 51
4863 on 997
4866 on 10
6717 on 7
6718 on 7A
6746 on X51

Lots more wrong allocations noted on bustimes.

This amount of wrong allocation is just being slack. I'm sure the NXWM can do no wrong camp will try and claim lots of reasons, but there are just far too many.

Can I ask why 1766 & 2118 on the 31 are shockers?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 20, 2021, 06:16:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 20, 2021, 06:07:26 PM
Can I ask why 1766 & 2118 on the 31 are shockers?
But as he posted 2130 out on the 29's? That makes 0 sense again. And Westy pointed out that during the week the 31/32 buses are venturing elsewhere during the week, Diamond seem to do a good job at keeping WMB liveried vehicles on the 31/32.

Walsall just shove out anything and everything on anything now...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on March 20, 2021, 06:26:23 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 20, 2021, 06:16:43 PM
But as he posted 2130 out on the 29's? That makes 0 sense again. And Westy pointed out that during the week the 31/32 buses are venturing elsewhere during the week, Diamond seem to do a good job at keeping WMB liveried vehicles on the 31/32.

Walsall just shove out anything and everything on anything now...

Maybe there are operational reasons for this happening?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 20, 2021, 06:36:08 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 20, 2021, 06:16:43 PM
But as he posted 2130 out on the 29's? That makes 0 sense again. And Westy pointed out that during the week the 31/32 buses are venturing elsewhere during the week, Diamond seem to do a good job at keeping WMB liveried vehicles on the 31/32.

Walsall just shove out anything and everything on anything now...

You are an expert vehicle allocator now as well are you!

If 2130 was not fit when the 31/32 boards were allocated it cannot go out on one. If it is then fixed it can go out.

You have never replied to my request as to ehat job you do so we can critisize your performance
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: bususer28 on March 21, 2021, 02:08:19 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 20, 2021, 06:16:43 PM
Diamond seem to do a good job at keeping WMB liveried vehicles on the 31/32.


Hmmmmm! I don't live anywhere near Walsall but a couple of days this week I've seen either 42/43 or 31/32 branded buses on the 002 so I beg to differ.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on March 21, 2021, 03:56:04 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 20, 2021, 06:16:43 PM
But as he posted 2130 out on the 29's? That makes 0 sense again. And Westy pointed out that during the week the 31/32 buses are venturing elsewhere during the week, Diamond seem to do a good job at keeping WMB liveried vehicles on the 31/32.

Walsall just shove out anything and everything on anything now...

Diamond had one on the 16 last week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 22, 2021, 03:30:07 PM
3304 is the first Streetdeck back into service. It ran the 703 this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 22, 2021, 04:59:34 PM
Quote from: bususer28 on March 21, 2021, 02:08:19 PM
Hmmmmm! I don't live anywhere near Walsall but a couple of days this week I've seen either 42/43 or 31/32 branded buses on the 002 so I beg to differ.

I think you will find the 31/32 branded vehicles only appear on the 002 peak boards, where they are running together with a streetlite.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on March 22, 2021, 07:10:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 22, 2021, 03:30:07 PM
3304 is the first Streetdeck back into service. It ran the 703 this morning
good ode sly gypo
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 23, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
3302 out on the 703 this afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 23, 2021, 04:48:54 PM
2117 hooked up to a RS recovery truck in Walsall Bus Station at the moment!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BN on March 23, 2021, 08:10:17 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 23, 2021, 03:19:46 PM
3302 out on the 703 this afternoon
Nice one, all 5 soon!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 23, 2021, 08:23:11 PM
Quote from: BN on March 23, 2021, 08:10:17 PM
Nice one, all 5 soon!!

3302 will probably be on the 703 again in the morning, but none of the other 4 are playing ball yet.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on March 24, 2021, 08:11:37 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 23, 2021, 08:23:11 PM
3302 will probably be on the 703 again in the morning, but none of the other 4 are playing ball yet.

Tony,

Will these be used on a specific route when all are available or just be on general use?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on March 24, 2021, 09:04:29 AM
Quote from: 888DUK on March 24, 2021, 08:11:37 AM
Tony,

Will these be used on a specific route when all are available or just be on general use?
think tony said will on 7 to start then after a while on others
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 25, 2021, 12:37:14 PM
Walsall In Pictures on Facebook has put a picture on of a Streetdeck.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 26, 2021, 04:13:06 PM
3301 and 3302 both out this afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 30, 2021, 11:01:59 PM
How come some of the stops have been renamed onboard the bus on the X51, since the last change?

At least one (Wiltshire Close) while correct,  the physical bus stop is still Hospital Street on the  flag!

Even the bus depot stop is now 'Bloxwich Industrial Estate '!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 07, 2021, 01:41:48 PM
Any plans to introduce any new services into Cannock? With it not looking likely D and G are going to reinstate the 2 maybe an hourly route linking Cannock with Bridg5own Cheslyn Hay and Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2021, 09:56:43 AM
Why did Nx not reduce the journey times for the likes of the 4,4H and 4M. Anybody with a brain travelling on this route would use diamond considering they are running a 10 minute frequency service with incredibly fast running time?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on April 10, 2021, 10:11:42 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2021, 09:56:43 AM
Why did Nx not reduce the journey times for the likes of the 4,4H and 4M. Anybody with a brain travelling on this route would use diamond considering they are running a 10 minute frequency service with incredibly fast running time?

The Diamond 4H running time clearly isn't sufficient, as the past couple of weeks you often see them running around in 2's even in the middle of the day, on odd occasions 3's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on April 10, 2021, 12:48:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2021, 10:11:42 AM
The Diamond 4H running time clearly isn't sufficient, as the past couple of weeks you often see them running around in 2's even in the middle of the day, on odd occasions 3's.
I've had a look at the timetables and the Diamond 4H's have at least 10 minutes shorter journey time than the NX 4H's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mikestone on April 10, 2021, 03:19:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 10, 2021, 09:56:43 AM
Why did Nx not reduce the journey times for the likes of the 4,4H and 4M. Anybody with a brain travelling on this route would use diamond considering they are running a 10 minute frequency service with incredibly fast running time?
Do you seriously think any normal passenger *ever* lets a bus go, unless they happen to have an operator specific ticket?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: sonic84 on April 11, 2021, 06:13:26 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 10, 2021, 10:11:42 AM
The Diamond 4H running time clearly isn't sufficient, as the past couple of weeks you often see them running around in 2's even in the middle of the day, on odd occasions 3's.

I too have seen the 4H running in 2s and 3s around Oldbury during the day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 13, 2021, 12:17:44 PM
Have the Streetdecks entered 'normal service' yet, or are they still driver training?

I know at least one has done the odd school service so far.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 15, 2021, 04:53:04 PM
2x 51 branded E400 and a 4 branded Omnilink currently parked up at Cannock bus stn
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on April 15, 2021, 09:33:26 PM
i know 4867 was on the X51 today saw it leave birmingham. Then  just after a 4  branded scania 1880 also left with driver training so i suspect thats the same one too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 22, 2021, 09:55:18 AM
Are there any plans for other services into Cannock? Poss restore a Bridgtown/Cheslyn Hay to Walsall link as Chaserider dont appear to have any plans to do so. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 22, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
Quote from: Bob on April 22, 2021, 09:55:18 AM
Are there any plans for other services into Cannock? Poss restore a Bridgtown/Cheslyn Hay to Walsall link as Chaserider dont appear to have any plans to do so.

Have they looked at the survey results yet though, even though they know we need another Cannock to Walsall link for that reason?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on April 22, 2021, 01:18:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 22, 2021, 10:53:33 AM
Have they looked at the survey results yet though, even though they know we need another Cannock to Walsall link for that reason?
Would a 937 extension to Cannock work? Maybe combine it with the 3 under an agreement with D&G! The 3 between Brownhills and Cannock seems rather pointless. Obviously just an idea of course. Regarding a Cheslyn Hay to Walsall link, maybe an extension to one of the Blocwich-Walsall services 🤔
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on April 22, 2021, 03:52:18 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 22, 2021, 01:18:41 PM
Would a 937 extension to Cannock work? Maybe combine it with the 3 under an agreement with D&G! The 3 between Brownhills and Cannock seems rather pointless. Obviously just an idea of course. Regarding a Cheslyn Hay to Walsall link, maybe an extension to one of the Blocwich-Walsall services 🤔
How is the 3 pointless? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on April 22, 2021, 08:19:10 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 22, 2021, 03:52:18 PM
How is the 3 pointless?
The 3 has the potential to be manifested into something alot bigger! At the moment it doesn't have a great deal of purpose. NX made the X51 work so they could potentially make a 937 to Cannock work! Another birmingham bus to the designer outlet too!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 22, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 22, 2021, 08:19:10 PM
The 3 has the potential to be manifested into something alot bigger! At the moment it doesn't have a great deal of purpose. NX made the X51 work so they could potentially make a 937 to Cannock work! Another birmingham bus to the designer outlet too!

When I knew the figures for Cannock depot in 2000 what is now the 3 was Cannock's most profitable route after the Pye Greens, to say it doesn't have a great deal of purpose is a very incorrect statement. There's a lot of potential bus passengers in Norton Canes and Heath Hayes (including me)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 22, 2021, 09:18:42 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 22, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
When I knew the figures for Cannock depot in 2000 what is now the 3 was Cannock's most profitable route after the Pye Greens, to say it doesn't have a great deal of purpose is a very incorrect statement. There's a lot of potential bus passengers in Norton Canes and Heath Hayes (including me)

Based on your answer, it's a shame the routes in that area kept being messed around!

(For the record, I had an aunt & uncle who used to live in Norton East Road!)

Wonder where we would be if the 'original ' Chaserider hadn't happened in 1980?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 22, 2021, 09:51:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 22, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
When I knew the figures for Cannock depot in 2000 what is now the 3 was Cannock's most profitable route after the Pye Greens, to say it doesn't have a great deal of purpose is a very incorrect statement. There's a lot of potential bus passengers in Norton Canes and Heath Hayes (including me)

Theyre not being served very well at the moment. Maybe D & G plan to run to Walsall again who knows....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on April 22, 2021, 11:14:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 22, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
When I knew the figures for Cannock depot in 2000 what is now the 3 was Cannock's most profitable route after the Pye Greens, to say it doesn't have a great deal of purpose is a very incorrect statement. There's a lot of potential bus passengers in Norton Canes and Heath Hayes (including me)
I go back on my comment regarding it's importance as a route. However, with the right investment I think the 3 and many other routes in the area have got potnetial.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 24, 2021, 12:27:53 PM
3303 is out on the 7 today. First one at Walsall not on a school board
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 24, 2021, 12:35:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2021, 12:27:53 PM
3303 is out on the 7 today. First one at Walsall not on a school board

Bugger.

Only saw the Platinum on the 7 when I was passing through an hour ago!

Edit - Seeing the note on 'Noteworthy Workings', couldn't we class it as a 'debut appearance' at least?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 29, 2021, 04:08:56 PM
Just got off 1753 on the 29 and the passenger at the stop before didn't have a face mask and as i was ready to get off i could see the driver clicking a button saying NO FACE COVERING anyone know what this does
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 29, 2021, 04:23:55 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on April 29, 2021, 04:08:56 PM
Just got off 1753 on the 29 and the passenger at the stop before didn't have a face mask and as i was ready to get off i could see the driver clicking a button saying NO FACE COVERING anyone know what this does

Records passengers without face masks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Pat on April 29, 2021, 04:29:05 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2021, 04:23:55 PM
Records passengers without face masks
But realistically, what can NX do with that information?  All they will have is a number of people not wearing face masks.  How do drivers know that those not wearing are exempt? (They may choose not to wear identification for personal reasons)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 29, 2021, 05:50:44 PM
Quote from: Pat on April 29, 2021, 04:29:05 PM
But realistically, what can NX do with that information?  All they will have is a number of people not wearing face masks.  How do drivers know that those not wearing are exempt? (They may choose not to wear identification for personal reasons)

It gives the safer travel police an idea of the best locations to visit, the same as the smokers button and the fare discrepancy button do.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 29, 2021, 08:04:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2021, 05:50:44 PM
It gives the safer travel police an idea of the best locations to visit, the same as the smokers button and the fare discrepancy button do.

Thanks for that Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 29, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
Driver on the X51 this afternoon told another passenger NX have got a service between walsall and cannock via cheslyn hay planned and itd be an extension of a 31 or 32 but he wasnt sure which....
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 29, 2021, 08:37:48 PM
Quote from: Bob on April 29, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
Driver on the X51 this afternoon told another passenger NX have got a service between walsall and cannock via cheslyn hay planned and itd be an extension of a 31 or 32 but he wasnt sure which....



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Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 29, 2021, 09:30:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2021, 08:37:48 PM


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Yep that was what he said Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 29, 2021, 10:47:28 PM
Quote from: Bob on April 29, 2021, 08:24:35 PM
Driver on the X51 this afternoon told another passenger NX have got a service between walsall and cannock via cheslyn hay planned and itd be an extension of a 31 or 32 but he wasnt sure which....

How would that affect the 'joint' operation of that particular route with Diamond,  if that's the case?

Surely they would have to give it a separate number, say '33' for example?

(And if true, definitely no chance of return for Chaserider on that section!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on May 03, 2021, 05:43:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on April 24, 2021, 12:27:53 PM
3303 is out on the 7 today. First one at Walsall not on a school board

Has this occurred since? I've only seen (on Bustimes), 3303 and 3305 on schools (705) since then. The Streetdecks don't seem to be getting much usage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 03, 2021, 05:46:46 PM
Quote from: don on May 03, 2021, 05:43:47 PM
Has this occurred since? I've only seen (on Bustimes), 3303 and 3305 on schools (705) since then. The Streetdecks don't seem to be getting much usage.

3303 & 3305 both went out on the 7 last Saturday as well (1st may)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 04, 2021, 05:10:33 PM
How much of an effect are the flyover/sprint roadworks having on X51? The journey time from Brum to Cannock is now ridiculous and made worse by the stupid idea to get rid of the flyover
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on May 08, 2021, 03:55:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 03, 2021, 05:46:46 PM
3303 & 3305 both went out on the 7 last Saturday as well (1st may)

Noted 3305 has been on the 7 today - 3303 not out? What about the other three - likely to re-enter service at any time soon? The 6, 7, 7A and 10 appear to have see large number of 'vintage' Tridents!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 08, 2021, 05:17:48 PM
Quote from: don on May 08, 2021, 03:55:47 PM
Noted 3305 has been on the 7 today - 3303 not out? What about the other three - likely to re-enter service at any time soon? The 6, 7, 7A and 10 appear to have see large number of 'vintage' Tridents!!

I saw on Facebook that WA are waiting on parts to get the others on the road.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 10, 2021, 07:16:15 AM
3303 is out on the Aldridge route this morning!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on May 10, 2021, 09:07:22 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 10, 2021, 07:16:15 AM
3303 is out on the Aldridge route this morning!

3305 also out on the 7 by the looks of it on bustracker.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 10, 2021, 05:02:03 PM
Quote from: 888DUK on May 10, 2021, 09:07:22 AM
3305 also out on the 7 by the looks of it on bustracker.

3305 was out till 1105 the night changed with a trident.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on May 10, 2021, 06:30:25 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on May 10, 2021, 05:02:03 PM
3305 was out till 1105 the night changed with a trident.

Was on the 159 this afternoon but back in garage after.

3303 doing well - still out on 7A!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 10, 2021, 10:17:06 PM
Quote from: don on May 10, 2021, 06:30:25 PM
Was on the 159 this afternoon but back in garage after.

3303 doing well - still out on 7A!!

Ended up on the 37/41 this evening, but was changed with a Scania at around 21:00 as the driver who was taking over wasn't type trained on the Streetdeck.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BusMan Greg on May 14, 2021, 04:12:18 PM
D&G are bringing back the 1 between Cannock and Walsall! I though there was an agreement between the two companies to not tread on each others toes 🤔
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on May 15, 2021, 12:58:59 PM
3303 and 3305 seem to be back to their normal haunts on the 7, 7A today after a day or so off. One was on the 29 yesterday PM.

However 3301 seemed be around in public yesterday PM, claiming to be on the 7 (which it has claimed today also) but seemed to be motionless in The Broadway fir a long period (is it stating service correctly or should it be dead?). Seems to have been on the 7 mid week though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 15, 2021, 01:14:27 PM
Quote from: don on May 15, 2021, 12:58:59 PM
3303 and 3305 seem to be back to their normal haunts on the 7, 7A today after a day or so off. One was on the 29 yesterday PM.

However 3301 seemed be around in public yesterday PM, claiming to be on the 7 (which it has claimed today also) but seemed to be motionless in The Broadway fir a long period (is it stating service correctly or should it be dead?). Seems to have been on the 7 mid week though.

3301 has bad GPS kit.

All 3 are on the 7/7A today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 15, 2021, 05:06:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 15, 2021, 01:14:27 PM
3301 has bad GPS kit.

All 3 are on the 7/7A today

Yeah, about that... 3305 just got swapped onto the 70A for a trip, since the driver taking over on the 7 isn't type trained.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on May 15, 2021, 05:08:13 PM
Ok thanks - a couple of B7RLEs on the 7 now. Presumably they've all gone home for the day - one showing on 7A in the garage!

Good they're gradually coming back though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 15, 2021, 06:03:36 PM
Did 3305 get into Blakenall as well, seeing 70a & 29 interwork, I believe?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on May 15, 2021, 06:43:25 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 15, 2021, 06:03:36 PM
Did 3305 get into Blakenall as well, seeing 70a & 29 interwork, I believe?

Yeah, it went out on a 29 when it returned to Walsall, before going back to garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 22, 2021, 01:46:32 PM
Are there now E200 duties on the 31 / 32, combined with other duties, like there used to be, when a B6 came off the Alumwell route onto the 301 a few years ago?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 22, 2021, 08:17:54 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 22, 2021, 01:46:32 PM
Are there now E200 duties on the 31 / 32, combined with other duties, like there used to be, when a B6 came off the Alumwell route onto the 301 a few years ago?

No but after 36 and 19 allocations there is 4 spare so the 31 might get the odd one as the 8 and 29 has this week.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on May 23, 2021, 04:27:49 AM
I thought 39 was E200 as well
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 23, 2021, 08:18:52 AM
Quote from: Solo1 on May 23, 2021, 04:27:49 AM
I thought 39 was E200 as well

39 is on the 6 allocated 36 boards
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 24, 2021, 07:12:06 AM
3305 out this morning on the Aldridge!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 24, 2021, 03:43:13 PM
RE closure of Lower Bull st. Does anyome know where i would board the X51 in Birmingham back to Cannock? I cant find any info online
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 24, 2021, 05:13:18 PM
Quote from: Bob on May 24, 2021, 03:43:13 PM
RE closure of Lower Bull st. Does anyome know where i would board the X51 in Birmingham back to Cannock? I cant find any info online

High Street outside boots X51 51

McDonald's 934 935 936 937 997

Wait for confirmation. Plan may change.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 25, 2021, 07:25:58 AM
4125 out on the Brownhills today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: metrocity on May 27, 2021, 09:34:41 PM
X51 increased to every 20 minutes between Walsall and Cannock from 6th June. Timetable on TFWM website.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 27, 2021, 10:40:39 PM
Quote from: metrocity on May 27, 2021, 09:34:41 PM
X51 increased to every 20 minutes between Walsall and Cannock from 6th June. Timetable on TFWM website.

Maybe what they should do is leave the X51 as it is then do a more direct route to compete with the 1 that runs on Saturdays...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 27, 2021, 11:02:58 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 25, 2021, 07:25:58 AM
4125 out on the Brownhills today.

And today as well, with 4601 spotted on the 41 around half 4!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 05, 2021, 09:06:19 AM
Re the comment in Noteworthy Workings re 6114, surely until we see more of them in service, we will have the same thoughts regarding the Streetdecks?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 05, 2021, 09:22:03 AM
The StreetDecks normal route will be the 7
The 61xx at PB will be general crimson double decks with no specific route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 05, 2021, 03:22:47 PM
Yeah, but until all 5 are sorted out & are regulary in service, they will be a novelty to most people.

Don't know about anyone else, but I've only seen the 2 operational ones a handful of times, since they moved to Walsall.

Has there been much local feedback re the Streetdecks, or is it a case of 'It's a bus, so what' ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on June 06, 2021, 06:52:56 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 05, 2021, 03:22:47 PM
Yeah, but until all 5 are sorted out & are regulary in service, they will be a novelty to most people.

Don't know about anyone else, but I've only seen the 2 operational ones a handful of times, since they moved to Walsall.

Has there been much local feedback re the Streetdecks, or is it a case of 'It's a bus, so what' ?

3303 has been the only one out this week on the 7 leaving Walsall at 40 mins past out until 2342.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on June 09, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
This early morning (about 5-6am I think?), I saw a Y-plated TWM-liveried bus on service 10 going into Walsall.

Around 11am or so, I was on Newfield Close, and I looked over the fence into the NX Walsall yard and saw a TWM-liveried bus parked up.

Were they both 4125? That's the only bus I can find listed on the fleet list that I think matches the description.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on June 09, 2021, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on June 09, 2021, 04:01:43 PM
This early morning (about 5-6am I think?), I saw a Y-plated TWM-liveried bus on service 10 going into Walsall.

Around 11am or so, I was on Newfield Close, and I looked over the fence into the NX Walsall yard and saw a TWM-liveried bus parked up.

Were they both 4125? That's the only bus I can find listed on the fleet list that I think matches the description.

It would've been, yeah.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on June 09, 2021, 04:27:20 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 05, 2021, 03:22:47 PM
Yeah, but until all 5 are sorted out & are regulary in service, they will be a novelty to most people.

Don't know about anyone else, but I've only seen the 2 operational ones a handful of times, since they moved to Walsall.

Has there been much local feedback re the Streetdecks, or is it a case of 'It's a bus, so what' ?

When you say sorted out? Is there something wrong with them then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on June 09, 2021, 05:01:50 PM
4125 was on the 10 till 0840. It broke down went back to garage got replaced with 4333.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on June 09, 2021, 07:15:20 PM
Quote from: Bob on June 09, 2021, 04:27:20 PM
When you say sorted out? Is there something wrong with them then

WA were waiting on parts from Wright/Bamford when I last spoke with someone at the garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 4679 on June 09, 2021, 08:18:33 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on June 09, 2021, 05:01:50 PM
4125 was on the 10 till 0840. It broke down went back to garage got replaced with 4333.
Must have been fixed fairly quick as it did the afternoon 51s from King Edwards.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on July 02, 2021, 10:38:57 AM
4125 was running around 15 minutes late on the 29 driver said he had to isolate the bus 3 times each time for 5 minutes before switching on the Master Switch after every go
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 08, 2021, 05:50:22 PM
Was on 4125 earlier this afternoon. Gave a great performance on the 10. Chaos in the bus stn earlier broken down E400 literally at the exit
Buses were allowed to go through in reverse direction to get things moving again 👍
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 09, 2021, 09:51:18 AM
2125 back in service I noticed on the 31/32 this morning, after coming back from 'injury' early on  in the pandemic.

Is this it's first day back in service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 09, 2021, 10:04:49 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 09, 2021, 09:51:18 AM
2125 back in service I noticed on the 31/32 this morning, after coming back from 'injury' early on  in the pandemic.

Is this it's first day back in service?

No, been back over a week now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 09, 2021, 10:21:40 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 09, 2021, 10:04:49 AM
No, been back over a week now

Ah, admittedly wasn't using your buses, apart from an X51 last Friday,  plus I've been off this week as well!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 27, 2021, 02:41:03 PM
Out of the Streetdecks 3303 seems to be the only one creeping out into service, are the other 4 having issues?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on July 27, 2021, 03:09:23 PM
Was on 7525 on the X20 earlier heading from University towards Birmingham City Centre and as it crossed the bus gate at George Road, there was a NXWM Hydrogen Streetdeck (H1001) waiting for 7525 to cross the bus gate at the lights on the ring road heading towards Five Ways Island.
Where is it going?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on July 27, 2021, 04:02:15 PM
Quote from: 2206 on July 27, 2021, 03:09:23 PM
Was on 7525 on the X20 earlier heading from University towards Birmingham City Centre and as it crossed the bus gate at George Road, there was a NXWM Hydrogen Streetdeck (H1001) waiting for 7525 to cross the bus gate at the lights on the ring road heading towards Five Ways Island.
Where is it going?

According to facebook I think it was going to bham library for a promo of some discription
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 07, 2021, 04:09:30 PM
Details of the first 6 '21' plate coaches at Walsall are now on the main site, these follow on from 27 '21' plate Levantes at Stanstead & Luton

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/coachfleet.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 07, 2021, 04:19:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 07, 2021, 04:09:30 PM
Details of the first 6 '21' plate coaches at Walsall are now on the main site, these follow on from 27 '21' plate Levantes at Stanstead & Luton

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/coachfleet.html

Should they not be B11RT's being tri-axle ?

How many are due in total ?

Also, what's happened to the former Igo Optare Solo's that were numbered 323-7? i.e. same fleetnumbers as new Stansted Levante 3's?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 07, 2021, 04:26:45 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 07, 2021, 04:19:06 PM
Should they not be B11RT's being tri-axle ?

How many are due in total ?

Also, what's happened to the former Igo Optare Solo's that were numbered 323-7? i.e. same fleetnumbers as new Stansted Levante 3's?

The 'T' isn't on the chassis plate, it is a PSV Circle invention to indicate tri-axles.

Coaches are officiially C3xx so no clash

There's another 6 Volvos parked up awaiting allocation to an operator which will 'probably' come to Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on August 07, 2021, 04:33:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 07, 2021, 04:26:45 PM
The 'T' isn't on the chassis plate, it is a PSV Circle invention to indicate tri-axles.

Fair enough, it's just you'd got 'B11RT' down against 269-75 & 283 above

Are these 6 new coaches + potential 6 extras additions to the WA NX coach fleet?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 07, 2021, 04:37:18 PM
Quote from: Winston on August 07, 2021, 04:33:55 PM
Fair enough, it's just you'd got 'B11RT' down against 269-75 & 283 above

Are these 6 new coaches + potential 6 extras additions to the WA NX coach fleet?

Some of 90-95 may be moving on to other NX operators, but they are looking at the Walsall allocation increasing up to close to 50 this year
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: bususer28 on August 07, 2021, 05:36:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 07, 2021, 04:09:30 PM
Details of the first 6 '21' plate coaches at Walsall are now on the main site, these follow on from 27 '21' plate Levantes at Stanstead & Luton

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/fleetlist/coachfleet.html
Aren't all new NX vehicles supposed to be electric, they look like the same caetano ones to me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 07, 2021, 05:45:56 PM
Quote from: bususer28 on August 07, 2021, 05:36:06 PM
Aren't all new NX vehicles supposed to be electric, they look like the same caetano ones to me.

Please tell me where you have read all new coaches are electric.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on August 07, 2021, 09:33:16 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 07, 2021, 05:45:56 PM
Please tell me where you have read all new coaches are electric.

He's obviously referring to NXWM not buying any more diesel buses and assumed it applies to the coaching arm too. Whilst incorrect, you can see where he's coming from and why he'd think that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 07, 2021, 10:33:47 PM
I didn't think there was such a beast as an electric coach, as it wouldn't have the charge for such a long journey!

(Someone's gonna tell me I'm wrong, aren't they?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on August 07, 2021, 10:36:18 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 07, 2021, 10:33:47 PM
I didn't think there was such a beast as an electric coach, as it wouldn't have the charge for such a long journey!

(Someone's gonna tell me I'm wrong, aren't they?)

There is the Yutong TCe12, which can do 'well in excess of 200 miles on a full charge' according to their website. I don't think there's any on the market that would be suitable for the work required for National Express though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 08, 2021, 08:10:16 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 07, 2021, 10:33:47 PM
I didn't think there was such a beast as an electric coach, as it wouldn't have the charge for such a long journey!

(Someone's gonna tell me I'm wrong, aren't they?)

Well there's already an electric coach service running between Dundee an Edinburgh
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 25, 2021, 01:34:29 PM
4125 having a day between Birmingham and Cannock
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 25, 2021, 01:48:53 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 25, 2021, 01:34:29 PM
4125 having a day between Birmingham and Cannock

It does regularly, being one of the euro 6 fleet
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 25, 2021, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 25, 2021, 01:34:29 PM
4125 having a day between Birmingham and Cannock
also it seems that single decker's get on to the Birmingham routes quite regularly now as of the past couple of days
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 25, 2021, 02:19:06 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on August 25, 2021, 01:50:36 PM
also it seems that single decker's get on to the Birmingham routes quite regularly now as of the past couple of days

They will in preference to a 43xx or 44xx where possible
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: busfan2847 on August 25, 2021, 05:22:43 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 25, 2021, 01:48:53 PM
It does regularly, being one of the euro 6 fleet
Is there a list of buses retrofitted to euro 6?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 25, 2021, 05:52:20 PM
Quote from: busfan2847 on August 25, 2021, 05:22:43 PM
Is there a list of buses retrofitted to euro 6?

It is all single decks, except 1750-1773
4125, 4607 at WA
4449, 4466-74, 4594-4600, 4602-6, 4608-18, 4620-23, 4625-32 at BC
4476-96 at PB
4523, 4687-96 at WB
4535 at WN
4667/72/74 at CV

all buses in the range 4718-4995
5401/3-8/13/14/16/18 all others in this range are in process
4619/33/34 will follow these
5501-18
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 25, 2021, 06:14:38 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 25, 2021, 05:52:20 PM
4449, 4466-72, 4594-4600, 4602-6, 4608-18, 4620-23, 4625-32 at BC
4476-96 at PB
Are 4473/4474 not euro 6?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 25, 2021, 06:16:34 PM
Quote from: 2206 on August 25, 2021, 06:14:38 PM
Are 4473/4474 not euro 6?

Yes, typo, now corrected
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 25, 2021, 06:26:44 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 25, 2021, 01:48:53 PM
It does regularly, being one of the euro 6 fleet

First I've heard of it on the X51, especially north of Walsall.

Normally only see that vehicle on the Aldridge, 41 or 10's!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 25, 2021, 06:29:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 25, 2021, 06:26:44 PM
First I've heard of it on the X51, especially north of Walsall.

Normally only see that vehicle on the Aldridge, 41 or 10's!

It gets on there about twice a week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: busfan2847 on August 25, 2021, 07:46:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 25, 2021, 05:52:20 PM
It is all single decks, except 1750-1773
4125, 4607 at WA
4449, 4466-74, 4594-4600, 4602-6, 4608-18, 4620-23, 4625-32 at BC
4476-96 at PB
4523, 4687-96 at WB
4535 at WN
4667/72/74 at CV

all buses in the range 4718-4995
5401/3-8/13/14/16/18 all others in this range are in process
4619/33/34 will follow these
5501-18
Thanks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on August 28, 2021, 10:15:38 PM
Anyone know why 4360 got swapped off the 10 and onto the 31/32 and 2127 onto the 10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2021, 04:50:12 PM
Regarding the Mk1 B7RLES was 1760/62 to costly for repair and are anymore of these set for withdrawal in the coming weeks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 02, 2021, 08:55:58 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2021, 04:50:12 PM
Regarding the Mk1 B7RLES was 1760/62 to costly for repair and are anymore of these set for withdrawal in the coming weeks

Wasn't 1760 one of the original 301 branded buses.

My main memory of 1762, was on the 313, driven by my work friend's sister (You know the one Tony!), when the little darlings on the Myvod decided to take aim & leave it with a shattered window!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 02, 2021, 09:34:25 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 02, 2021, 08:55:58 PM
Wasn't 1760 one of the original 301 branded buses.

My main memory of 1762, was on the 313, driven by my work friend's sister (You know the one Tony!), when the little darlings on the Myvod decided to take aim & leave it with a shattered window!
yes 1760 was. 1762 was also my first memory of getting on a bus so sad to see it go
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 02, 2021, 10:32:55 PM
When brand new 1757 - 1768 branded for 311 313

1750 - 1754 €2 return 301 branding around 2009
1760 - 1763 £2 return 302 around 2009 /2010

1750 1758 301 302 red white branding around 2014

1750 - 1761 crimson 301 302 blue Branding around 2016 up to September 2018.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: windy miller on September 03, 2021, 02:40:53 AM
Quote from: 2206 on July 27, 2021, 03:09:23 PM
Was on 7525 on the X20 earlier heading from University towards Birmingham City Centre and as it crossed the bus gate at George Road, there was a NXWM Hydrogen Streetdeck (H1001) waiting for 7525 to cross the bus gate at the lights on the ring road heading towards Five Ways Island.
Where is it going?
Q how did you identify the vehicle   none of the firat 4 appear to have fleet numbers  judging by tonys images  ?/ pres the reg plate I imagine?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on September 03, 2021, 09:24:22 AM
Quote from: windy miller on September 03, 2021, 02:40:53 AM
       Q how did you identify the vehicle   none of the firat 4 appear to have fleet numbers  judging by tonys images  ?/ pres the reg plate I imagine?
At the time of posting, H1001 was the only one that had been delivered. It's also (currently) the only one with any vinyls applied, which would make it easier to differentiate.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MasterPlan on September 08, 2021, 04:52:37 PM
Just seen 3302 on the 51 on Priory Queensway if anyone wants it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 08, 2021, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 08, 2021, 04:52:37 PM
Just seen 3302 on the 51 on Priory Queensway if anyone wants it.

Did the afternoon 51S from King Edwards judging by bustimes.org. 3303 was on the afternoon one yesterday two, meaning a Streetdeck has been in City three days in a row this week. Probably something that hasn't happened since they were at Pensnett! 😂
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 20, 2021, 03:54:10 PM
4860 has been debranded from the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 20, 2021, 04:56:42 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 20, 2021, 03:54:10 PM
4860 has been debranded from the 51.


4859 has as well

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 24, 2021, 06:19:55 AM
Just passed a Streetdeck Hydroliner on The Broadway heading towards the Birmingham Road.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on September 24, 2021, 10:39:08 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 24, 2021, 06:19:55 AM
Just passed a Streetdeck Hydroliner on The Broadway heading towards the Birmingham Road.
It was most likely same one I saw around 6:35, this morning on the M6 just before J6 heading into Birmingham
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 24, 2021, 10:58:43 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 20, 2021, 04:56:42 PM

4859 has as well

Is Walsall keeping the debranded 51 vehicles  or are they going elsewhere?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 28, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
77 very StreetDeck today with both 3302 & 3303 on there all day
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on September 28, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
77 very StreetDeck today with both 3302 & 3303 on there all day

It appears that they've found their 'happy' place at Walsall and the 77s.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 28, 2021, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 28, 2021, 11:42:38 AM
77 very StreetDeck today with both 3302 & 3303 on there all day

Got a ride on 3302 on the full route of the 77 today. Sad that these left PN, however a couple of students on the bus seemed to be impressed with its London like look.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 28, 2021, 07:33:39 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on September 28, 2021, 01:10:18 PM
It appears that they've found their 'happy' place at Walsall and the 77s.

@Wumpty I've noticed they can usually be found on WA7 or WA77. They also seem to creep onto WA6, WA10, WA37, WA41 and WA51 (afternoon 51S school working) occasionally. Then every so often one will creep onto a City Platinum route (usually as a change bus or off an afternoon school working).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 28, 2021, 10:38:38 PM
What's currently allowed out on Sundays?

Just Platties, other E400's, E200's, Scanias & Eclipse 2's.

Have I missed anything?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 28, 2021, 10:43:33 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 28, 2021, 10:38:38 PM
What's currently allowed out on Sundays?

Just Platties, other E400's, E200's, Scanias & Eclipse 2's.

Have I missed anything?
Eclipse 1's on the 11/11A on Sundays...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on September 29, 2021, 08:25:06 AM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 28, 2021, 07:33:39 PM
@Wumpty I've noticed they can usually be found on WA7 or WA77. They also seem to creep onto WA6, WA10, WA37, WA41 and WA51 (afternoon 51S school working) occasionally. Then every so often one will creep onto a City Platinum route (usually as a change bus or off an afternoon school working).

@Tony keeps us well informed on their locations and useage and it's great to get additional eyes on their moves too, so thanks Michael. I'm really pleased that these are now coming into their own. Much of bus travel is psychology, with perceived "new" buses (like these 5 year old Streetdecks and the Scania Omnis on the WA-WN9) creating a sense of further investment and refreshing the public's perception of bus travel.

Some of the average travelling public may even notice the same bodies on these and the Hydrogen buses which may further whet their appetite for things to come.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 29, 2021, 06:32:58 PM
3304 passed an MoT today, couple of things still to do, but will hopefully be in service for the first time since transfer to Walsall later this week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: windy miller on September 29, 2021, 11:39:29 PM
   I notice that the new Hydrogen series all appear to have no clearly
  visible fleet numbers ?  at least not in the usual positions?  is there a
  any particular reason ?   thanks.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on September 30, 2021, 08:06:43 AM
Quote from: windy miller on September 29, 2021, 11:39:29 PM
   I notice that the new Hydrogen series all appear to have no clearly
  visible fleet numbers ?  at least not in the usual positions?  is there a
  any particular reason ?   thanks.
Haven't been applied yet, presumably
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 30, 2021, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: windy miller on September 29, 2021, 11:39:29 PM
   I notice that the new Hydrogen series all appear to have no clearly
  visible fleet numbers ?  at least not in the usual positions?  is there a
  any particular reason ?   thanks.

They will be applied when the rest of the livery & branding is applied
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on September 30, 2021, 04:03:13 PM
Noticed a WA platinum with a cheeky little West Midlands Travel sticker by its fare sticker in near side window. 😃
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on September 30, 2021, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 30, 2021, 08:11:02 AM
They will be applied when the rest of the livery & branding is applied

Is the plan for them to go into service this year or have recent events complicated things?

(or was it to have it ready for the Commonwealth games)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 30, 2021, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on September 30, 2021, 04:38:03 PM
Is the plan for them to go into service this year or have recent events complicated things?

(or was it to have it ready for the Commonwealth games)

Still looking at November at the moment
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 30, 2021, 05:26:07 PM
3304 has made its Walsall debut tonight. It is out on the 7, but not tracking, so computer spotters haven't noticed. I hope the young lad photographing in Walsall in the rain gets a photo
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 37351ml on October 02, 2021, 08:43:59 AM
Can anyone confirm why 4860 left 7 minutes early on todays 00.27 51 from Walsall leaving myself  and a few others stranded and having to fork out on a  £15 taxi fare back to scott arms. Ironically i had gone back via that  route due to another no show on the last  WB 40  @ 23.10 from wednesbury  (possibly 4738) opting instead for  a prolonged stay in wednesbury spoons and then catching the 11 to walsall @ 00.10 which is normally a +3 for the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on October 02, 2021, 03:15:57 PM
Quote from: 37351ml on October 02, 2021, 08:43:59 AM
Can anyone confirm why 4860 left 7 minutes early on todays 00.27 51 from Walsall leaving myself  and a few others stranded and having to fork out on a  £15 taxi fare back to scott arms. Ironically i had gone back via that  route due to another no show on the last  WB 40  @ 23.10 from wednesbury  (possibly 4738) opting instead for  a prolonged stay in wednesbury spoons and then catching the 11 to walsall @ 00.10 which is normally a +3 for the 51.

If you have an actual complaint, get in touch with the company rather than raising it on here. They might even be able to compensate you for the taxi fare, if it did leave early.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 04, 2021, 09:34:21 AM
3302 is spending a full day on City today on the X51/997. It did the 08:08 X51 from Walsall to Birmingham and has not long left Birmingham on the 09:13 997 to Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 04, 2021, 09:54:58 AM
So how many Streetdecks are active now?

Is it 3 or 4?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 04, 2021, 10:12:59 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 04, 2021, 09:54:58 AM
So how many Streetdecks are active now?

Is it 3 or 4?

I think it's three. 3302 and 3303 are currently out daily at the moment. I know @Tony posted about 3304 being out recently too. 3301 and 3305 have been in service at Walsall but haven't been out in some time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 04, 2021, 02:49:11 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 04, 2021, 09:34:21 AM
3302 is spending a full day on City today on the X51/997. It did the 08:08 X51 from Walsall to Birmingham and has not long left Birmingham on the 09:13 997 to Walsall.

3303 is also on City this afternoon on the 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 05, 2021, 06:28:22 PM
It appears Walsall maybe abit short of single deckers with platinums on the 31/32 and other double deckers getting on single decker routes with also 2097 being joined from Pensnett for the day and now also 2133 off the road with a smashed window how many single deckers at walsall are currently off the road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 05, 2021, 10:07:33 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 05, 2021, 06:28:22 PM
It appears Walsall maybe abit short of single deckers with platinums on the 31/32 and other double deckers getting on single decker routes with also 2097 being joined from Pensnett for the day and now also 2133 off the road with a smashed window how many single deckers at walsall are currently off the road

Looking at bustimes.org, not surprised to notice 2133 got copped in the usual Coalpool area!

Years ago the old 319 route (now the 19) used to get affected, as at one point it was routed via Beddows Road, which is part of a notorious area.

(You used to have Shakespeare Crescent not very far away in Harden as another dodgy area!)

Is Nx looking at that area, along with Underhill in Wolverhampton?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 05, 2021, 11:38:32 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 05, 2021, 10:07:33 PM
Looking at bustimes.org, not surprised to notice 2133 got copped in the usual Coalpool area!

Years ago the old 319 route (now the 19) used to get affected, as at one point it was routed via Beddows Road, which is part of a notorious area.

(You used to have Shakespeare Crescent not very far away in Harden as another dodgy area!)

Is Nx looking at that area, along with Underhill in Wolverhampton?
Problem is in that area in coalpool and harden is that theres alot passenger which get off and to get on to blakenall/bloxwich get to walsall also with Morning school kids all heading to Walsall it is absolutely rammed along with school kids in the afternoon all getting off in the coalpool/harden area and theres only about 3 or 4 who actually go straight through to blakenall so i would of thought this section of the route is a key income for the 29 service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on October 06, 2021, 02:58:44 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 05, 2021, 11:38:32 PM
Problem is in that area in coalpool and harden is that theres alot passenger which get off and to get on to blakenall/bloxwich get to walsall also with Morning school kids all heading to Walsall it is absolutely rammed along with school kids in the afternoon all getting off in the coalpool/harden area and theres only about 3 or 4 who actually go straight through to blakenall so i would of thought this section of the route is a key income for the 29 service

They'll be getting a lot less income if the buses are continually having their windows break however.

If the windows are continually being broken in an area and noone seems to be doing much about it, then NX should just refuse to serve the area until the police or the parents sort it out. They stopped serving an estate in Coventry on the 13 (might've been the 8 - I just remember it was the lovely estate north of Bell Green) because of anti-social behaviour until it got sorted out.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 06, 2021, 06:57:02 AM
Looks like the 41 has the pleasure of 3302 this morning, as I've just seen it parked up in Walsall Bus Station!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 06, 2021, 08:37:18 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 06, 2021, 06:57:02 AM
Looks like the 41 has the pleasure of 3302 this morning, as I've just seen it parked up in Walsall Bus Station!
Joined by 3303 aswell
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on October 06, 2021, 09:41:36 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 05, 2021, 10:07:33 PM
Looking at bustimes.org, not surprised to notice 2133 got copped in the usual Coalpool area!

Years ago the old 319 route (now the 19) used to get affected, as at one point it was routed via Beddows Road, which is part of a notorious area.

(You used to have Shakespeare Crescent not very far away in Harden as another dodgy area!)

Is Nx looking at that area, along with Underhill in Wolverhampton?

The (3)19 has had a number of route changes over the years from its original route, primarily due to vandalism. It doesn't actually serve the traditional Goscote area as it bypasses the bottom end of Goscote Lane, choosing Harden Road, Walker Road then covers the top end of Goscote Lane and back through Blakenall as its original line of route. Granted, much of the old Goscote estate has been knocked down over time that stopped some of the vandalism and facilitated the route change. The whole Coalpool/Harden/Goscote/Blakenall area has suffered from vandalism ever since I've been boy growing up in that area, but the issue is more political.

Bus companies can change routes as they see fit, but the issues are more complex. The cost of windows is far out-weighed by the revenue generated from these less affluent areas (though this doesn't justify such damage), the area absolutely NEEDS a bus service being less affluent, and I'm sure the usual politicals would wade in if the routes were curtailed for any reason.


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 06, 2021, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on October 06, 2021, 09:41:36 AM
The (3)19 has had a number of route changes over the years from its original route, primarily due to vandalism. It doesn't actually serve the traditional Goscote area as it bypasses the bottom end of Goscote Lane, choosing Harden Road, Walker Road then covers the top end of Goscote Lane and back through Blakenall as its original line of route. Granted, much of the old Goscote estate has been knocked down over time that stopped some of the vandalism and facilitated the route change. The whole Coalpool/Harden/Goscote/Blakenall area has suffered from vandalism ever since I've been boy growing up in that area, but the issue is more political.

Bus companies can change routes as they see fit, but the issues are more complex. The cost of windows is far out-weighed by the revenue generated from these less affluent areas (though this doesn't justify such damage), the area absolutely NEEDS a bus service being less affluent, and I'm sure the usual politicals would wade in if the routes were curtailed for any reason.

Tony will probably have his opinion on this, but why not put the soon to be withdrawn buses on this route?

There must be some real knackers in the fleet, that might not fetch much, or only suitable for scrap!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 06, 2021, 10:57:49 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 06, 2021, 09:53:04 AM
Tony will probably have his opinion on this, but why not put the soon to be withdrawn buses on this route?

There must be some real knackers in the fleet, that might not fetch much, or only suitable for scrap!
It might not need to be fully double deckers as well and most of the older buses are.
If its allocated Omnilinks they are the oldest single decks in the fleet anyway, with most  17XX gone.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 06, 2021, 11:00:22 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 06, 2021, 09:53:04 AM
Tony will probably have his opinion on this, but why not put the soon to be withdrawn buses on this route?

There must be some real knackers in the fleet, that might not fetch much, or only suitable for scrap!

I cannot see any advantage at all, you still have to pay for replacement glass, glass for newer buses is normally easier to obtain
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on October 06, 2021, 12:37:50 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on October 04, 2021, 06:34:43 PM
1756 WA - Withdrawn
4569 YW - WA

Only 4 B7RLE mk1 left 1761 1767 1770 1772

Given the Mk1 B7RLEs are on their way out, anyone know if they'll survive til at least Saturday? Will have to get myself one last ride
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 06, 2021, 02:33:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 06, 2021, 11:00:22 AM
I cannot see any advantage at all, you still have to pay for replacement glass, glass for newer buses is normally easier to obtain

How long does it take to fix a window then?

A day?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 06, 2021, 03:13:49 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 06, 2021, 12:37:50 PM
Given the Mk1 B7RLEs are on their way out, anyone know if they'll survive til at least Saturday? Will have to get myself one last ride
Well there is only 2 left 1761 and 1767 i would of thought they will due to walsall struggles with single deckers at the minute but at the minute only 1767 is out today on the 29
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on October 06, 2021, 05:05:18 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 06, 2021, 02:33:06 PM
How long does it take to fix a window then?

A day?

Depends if the glass place has the glass in stock, and whether they have anyone available to go fit it.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 06, 2021, 06:41:41 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 06, 2021, 02:33:06 PM
How long does it take to fix a window then?

A day?

Gasket windows about 30 minutes, bonded ones a bit longer removing the old bonding and waiting for the new to set
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on October 07, 2021, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 06, 2021, 06:41:41 PM
Gasket windows about 30 minutes, bonded ones a bit longer removing the old bonding and waiting for the new to set

Weren't the Lynxes a pain to wait for the new bonding to set?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 07, 2021, 09:40:36 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on October 07, 2021, 08:58:04 AM
Weren't the Lynxes a pain to wait for the new bonding to set?

Yes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on October 07, 2021, 01:36:50 PM
Are there many vehicles in the current fleet with bonded glazing, apart from coaches? Most seem to have gasket glazing or the flush glazing system on E200 MMCs and E400mmcs.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on October 07, 2021, 02:40:59 PM
Quote from: Stevo on October 07, 2021, 01:36:50 PM
Are there many vehicles in the current fleet with bonded glazing, apart from coaches? Most seem to have gasket glazing or the flush glazing system on E200 MMCs and E400mmcs.

Scanias and Streetdecks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on October 08, 2021, 10:02:37 AM
Quote from: CL on October 07, 2021, 02:40:59 PM
Scanias and Streetdecks
Thanks. And H1001-20?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on October 08, 2021, 10:21:33 AM
Quote from: Stevo on October 08, 2021, 10:02:37 AM
Thanks. And H1001-20?
Indeed - by the looks of it :)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 11, 2021, 07:36:23 PM
3302 (935/937/937A), 3303 (946/937), 3304 (51) all out this afternoon

3305 going for MoT tomorrow, so getting there.

3301 has an oil leak which  needs a partial engine rebuild, but hopefully have a full set soon!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BBS on October 11, 2021, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 11, 2021, 07:36:23 PM
3302 (935/937/937A), 3303 (946/937), 3304 (51) all out this afternoon

3305 going for MoT tomorrow, so getting there.

3301 has an oil leak which  needs a partial engine rebuild, but hopefully have a full set soon!
946? Typo or some new route lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 11, 2021, 10:53:36 PM
Hoping one will be popping on the 31 or 32 at some point, seeing they seem to going on a few different routes at the moment,  rather than the 7 as originally mentioned!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on October 12, 2021, 07:16:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 11, 2021, 10:53:36 PM
Hoping one will be popping on the 31 or 32 at some point, seeing they seem to going on a few different routes at the moment,  rather than the 7 as originally mentioned!

Thay kayp 'em on the posh routes so thay dow smosh the windaz! Thay wow purrum on the Mossley or Blayknull!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 12, 2021, 01:26:02 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on October 12, 2021, 07:16:14 AM
Thay kayp 'em on the posh routes so thay dow smosh the windaz! Thay wow purrum on the Mossley or Blayknull!
One of them managed a day on the 29/70A and came back intact, and they've been used on the 37/41 at night and came back fine, so I don't quite get what your comment is about, wouldn't exactly say the 51 is a posh route either.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 12, 2021, 01:33:38 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 12, 2021, 01:26:02 PM
One of them managed a day on the 29/70A and came back intact, and they've been used on the 37/41 at night and came back fine, so I don't quite get what your comment is about, wouldn't exactly say the 51 is a posh route either.
Im sure it only did one 70A trip and 1 trip to bloxwich on the 29 as it got swapped off from the 10
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on October 12, 2021, 01:38:07 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 12, 2021, 01:26:02 PM
One of them managed a day on the 29/70A and came back intact, and they've been used on the 37/41 at night and came back fine, so I don't quite get what your comment is about, wouldn't exactly say the 51 is a posh route either.

Appreciate YOU may not get what the comment was about, though I'm sure @Westy will as it was aimed at him, given we both know the area and the build up of posts prior.

You wouldn't exactly say the 51 is a posh route either, though I doubt it suffers the same amount of vandalism and broken windows as the Track routes do (that's what the comment was actually about).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 12, 2021, 01:45:14 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on October 12, 2021, 01:38:07 PM
Appreciate YOU may not get what the comment was about, though I'm sure @Westy will as it was aimed at him, given we both know the area and the build up of posts prior.

You wouldn't exactly say the 51 is a posh route either, though I doubt it suffers the same amount of vandalism and broken windows as the Track routes do (that's what the comment was actually about).
Well Walsall are being brave anyway with 6718 on the 29/70A although only did 2 trips on the 70A before being swapped onto the 51 with 6721 now on the 29/70A after doing the morning SFA1 and will do the Afternoon SFA1 later on
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 12, 2021, 01:52:51 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 12, 2021, 01:45:14 PM
Well Walsall are being brave anyway with 6718 on the 29/70A although only did 2 trips on the 70A before being swapped onto the 51 with 6721 now on the 29/70A after doing the morning SFA1 and will do the Afternoon SFA1 later on
Platinums have been on the 29/70A a lot before so I don't see why its only the 'better buses' that aren't getting attacked when it could be any vehicle, doubt the vandals care.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 12, 2021, 02:06:48 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 12, 2021, 01:52:51 PM
Platinums have been on the 29/70A a lot before so I don't see why its only the 'better buses' that aren't getting attacked when it could be any vehicle, doubt the vandals care.
Well the problem these vandals dont strike usually till late evening when there with there so called "gangs" but its unusual for a platinum to be on there late evening as it would usually be on the SFA1 board which finishes on the 29 at about 15:00 anyway
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on October 12, 2021, 02:13:00 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 12, 2021, 01:52:51 PM
Platinums have been on the 29/70A a lot before so I don't see why its only the 'better buses' that aren't getting attacked when it could be any vehicle, doubt the vandals care.
The vandals most probably don't, though I'd wager that Walsall have risk assessed the route and the time of day that they've deployed these buses (given the kids "should" be at school), and taken a calculated risk of using them. Either that, or given the number of single deckers that have been targeted, that these are the only buses available for service at that time.

Like I've posted before, NXWM are operating a socially necessary service that generates a profit of some margin that out-weighs the cost of glass replacement. The resultant outcry of them pulling the buses would be a political nightmare for them - they just can't win either way.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on October 12, 2021, 02:59:19 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on October 12, 2021, 02:13:00 PM
The vandals most probably don't, though I'd wager that Walsall have risk assessed the route and the time of day that they've deployed these buses (given the kids "should" be at school), and taken a calculated risk of using them. Either that, or given the number of single deckers that have been targeted, that these are the only buses available for service at that time.

Like I've posted before, NXWM are operating a socially necessary service that generates a profit of some margin that out-weighs the cost of glass replacement. The resultant outcry of them pulling the buses would be a political nightmare for them - they just can't win either way.

There was a point last year (I think, can't find the news articles/posts now) where NXC stopped running to one of the estates in Coventry, as the buses were getting attacked and one of them had someone attack the driver trying to rob him.

Similar incidents found via Google which all seem to have happened in the last month:

https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/19627196.bus-service-suspended-vandalism-attacks-holme-wood/
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/in-your-area/lanarkshire/vital-lanarkshire-village-bus-service-25055698
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/crime/lothian-buses-services-halted-again-after-vandals-smash-windows-3397070
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/bus-driver-being-shot-bb-21636042

NX should pull services from the area at that time of the night to prompt the authorities to do something about it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 12, 2021, 04:49:15 PM
3304 is on the 51S this afternoon. It also passed 3302 in Birmingham City Centre which was waiting to operate an X51 in Birmingham.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 12, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 12, 2021, 04:49:15 PM
3304 is on the 51S this afternoon. It also passed 3302 in Birmingham City Centre which was waiting to operate an X51 in Birmingham.

3305 hasn't come out this afternoon
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 12, 2021, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on October 12, 2021, 01:38:07 PM
Appreciate YOU may not get what the comment was about, though I'm sure @Westy will as it was aimed at him, given we both know the area and the build up of posts prior.

You wouldn't exactly say the 51 is a posh route either, though I doubt it suffers the same amount of vandalism and broken windows as the Track routes do (that's what the comment was actually about).

Must admit, in 'normal ' times, it would be rare for me to catch a 51 anyway, preferring the X51.

I've got the last week in October off, so I want to go to Brum for the first time in ages!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 12, 2021, 08:29:26 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2021, 05:36:10 PM
3305 hasn't come out this afternoon

I know @Tony. Saw it at The Broadway earlier heading to West Bromwich for it's MOT.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 13, 2021, 05:26:15 PM
3305 on the 51S this afternoon meaning 4/5 are out today (with 3302-04 being on the 77 this afternoon too).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on October 13, 2021, 06:54:45 PM
What happened to them being allocated to the 7?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 13, 2021, 07:31:59 PM
Quote from: 888DUK on October 13, 2021, 06:54:45 PM
What happened to them being allocated to the 7?

They mixed up 7 with 77. Easy mistake to make
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 13, 2021, 07:33:02 PM
Streedecks are now allocated to 77.

The 7 is Interwork now with 10 boards.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2021, 09:12:31 PM
29 on diversion again, due to the local yobs.

Difference this time, it's now been picked up by the local newspaper Facebook pages.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 20, 2021, 10:02:17 PM
2125 the unfortunate victim
4463 has replaced it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 21, 2021, 07:03:35 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 20, 2021, 10:02:17 PM
2125 the unfortunate victim
4463 has replaced it

Unlucky vehicle, as it's not long come back after being injured in the early pandemic!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 23, 2021, 12:43:53 PM
1761 is spending it's last day in service on the 29 today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 23, 2021, 12:51:00 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 23, 2021, 12:43:53 PM
1761 is spending it's last day in service on the 29 today.


Hopefully not all day.

Sure we would like it's last day in service in one piece, as it's on the 29!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 23, 2021, 05:45:24 PM
Is anyone keeping track of 1761 at the moment, either physically on the ground or virtually via bustimes.org?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BNH2004 on October 23, 2021, 06:19:51 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2021, 05:45:24 PM
Is anyone keeping track of 1761 at the moment, either physically on the ground or virtually via bustimes.org?
According to bustimes.org its going towards Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 23, 2021, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: BNH2004 on October 23, 2021, 06:19:51 PM
According to bustimes.org its going towards Walsall

And now going back out to Bloxwich again.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 23, 2021, 06:50:41 PM
Taking a guess, the 1905 29 from Bloxwich is it's final journey?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 23, 2021, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2021, 06:50:41 PM
Taking a guess, the 1905 29 from Bloxwich is it's final journey?

Out till 2155 final journey will be 2130 from Walsall if it survives without being attacked by yobs.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 23, 2021, 09:44:30 PM
That's it.

End of an era folks.

Now running dead from Blakenall back to depot,

(Hopefully unscathed!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 23, 2021, 10:05:52 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 23, 2021, 09:44:30 PM
That's it.

End of an era folks.

Now running dead from Blakenall back to depot,

(Hopefully unscathed!)
Yep just got it from Walsall to Coalpool there was a few yobs out but just messing about on there bikes wasnt the best of the batch. Although according to my records when i started it in 2017 its the most common of the batch that i had a caught a total of 51 times i have ridden 1761 and tonight makes it 52 and its final journey
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 28, 2021, 03:17:21 PM
Streetdeck 3301 out today on 6 and 7 lates out until 2342.

Left walsall bs at 1430.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2021, 08:04:24 AM
3301 (41), 3302 (41); 3303 (10); 3304 (77) all out this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on October 29, 2021, 08:45:10 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2021, 08:04:24 AM
3301 (41), 3302 (41); 3303 (10); 3304 (77) all out this morning

Great news Tony - 3305 having a day off today?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2021, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on October 29, 2021, 08:45:10 AM
Great news Tony - 3305 having a day off today?

3305 is waiting a couple of spare parts
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on October 29, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2021, 09:03:53 AM
3305 is waiting a couple of spare parts

Thanks!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on October 29, 2021, 11:33:45 AM
Thanks!

3305 has just been signed off as fit for service. If it comes out this afternonn it will be the first time all 5 have been in service at the same time for a very long time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on October 29, 2021, 03:20:04 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2021, 02:49:41 PM
3305 has just been signed off as fit for service. If it comes out this afternonn it will be the first time all 5 have been in service at the same time for a very long time.

That's a fantastic achievement Tony, one that the team should be rightly proud of!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 29, 2021, 06:31:26 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on October 23, 2021, 10:05:52 PM
Yep just got it from Walsall to Coalpool there was a few yobs out but just messing about on there bikes wasnt the best of the batch. Although according to my records when i started it in 2017 its the most common of the batch that i had a caught a total of 51 times i have ridden 1761 and tonight makes it 52 and its final journey

According to Twitter, they've started already tonight!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2021, 06:37:36 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 29, 2021, 06:31:26 PM
According to Twitter, they've started already tonight!

Nothing has 'started already tonight' other than the diversion to make sure nothing happens
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 29, 2021, 06:44:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2021, 06:37:36 PM
Nothing has 'started already tonight' other than the diversion to make sure nothing happens

With respect, that is not how it reads on Twitter.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 29, 2021, 06:49:03 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 29, 2021, 06:44:10 PM
With respect, that is not how it reads on Twitter.

Here is the tweet
Diversion on route 29
Due to anti social behaviour on Coalpool Lane

To Bloxwich
Stafford Street, Bloxwich Road, Harden Road, Walker Road and follow normal line

To Walsall
Reverse of above

It doesn't say there has been any anti social behaviour tonight, and the fact it says 'To Walsall' makes it fairly obvious which 29 it is.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on October 29, 2021, 06:50:40 PM
For discussion of this particular issue, lets keep this in the one topic from now on:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=6109.0
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on October 29, 2021, 07:22:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 29, 2021, 06:49:03 PM
Here is the tweet
Diversion on route 29
Due to anti social behaviour on Coalpool Lane

To Bloxwich
Stafford Street, Bloxwich Road, Harden Road, Walker Road and follow normal line

To Walsall
Reverse of above

It doesn't say there has been any anti social behaviour tonight, and the fact it says 'To Walsall' makes it fairly obvious which 29 it is.
Will this diversion happen over the weekend do you know @Tony
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 02, 2021, 11:20:21 AM
All 5 Streetdecks out in service this morning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 02, 2021, 11:30:04 AM
Quote from: Tony on November 02, 2021, 11:20:21 AM
All 5 Streetdecks out in service this morning

I've said it already, but well done for getting them all out today. It's fantastic to see all of a very small group all operational together!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 04, 2021, 01:19:50 PM
Has coach 338 had wheelie bin numbers stuck on as fleet numbers? It's like putting tomato ketchup on lobster fradiavlo :o

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/338.html
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on November 04, 2021, 03:46:36 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 04, 2021, 01:19:50 PM
Has coach 338 had wheelie bin numbers stuck on as fleet numbers? It's like putting tomato ketchup on lobster fradiavlo :o

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/Coaches/338.html

It matches the other ones on Tony's site that have displayed numbers - 333's number looks a bit wonky.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 04, 2021, 10:23:56 PM
I have kept my eye on the 70 route past week because lately some buses are being replaced at night i think i can record about 3 times over the past week is there vandalism going on the 70 aswell as the 29 or buses just having somee issues on there and just coincidentally are on at night
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 05, 2021, 09:31:31 AM
Quote from: ellspurs on November 04, 2021, 03:46:36 PM
It matches the other ones on Tony's site that have displayed numbers - 333's number looks a bit wonky.
Perhaps it's my eyesight, but the numbers don't appear to be the corporate font. It's just the small details that finish it off.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on November 05, 2021, 04:55:42 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 05, 2021, 09:31:31 AM
Perhaps it's my eyesight, but the numbers don't appear to be the corporate font. It's just the small details that finish it off.

I don't even think it's consistent - the 3's on 337's front fleet number appear to be more rounded than those on 338's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on November 05, 2021, 04:58:53 PM
Quote from: DJ on November 05, 2021, 04:55:42 PM
I don't even think it's consistent - the 3's on 337's front fleet number appear to be more rounded than those on 338's.

You're right - 333 doesn't match 337 which doesn't match 338. I quite clearly didn't look at them properly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 08, 2021, 07:59:52 AM
Quote from: ellspurs on November 05, 2021, 04:58:53 PM
You're right - 333 doesn't match 337 which doesn't match 338. I quite clearly didn't look at them properly.
In the grand scheme of things, I'm sure it doesn't matter as long as they have a fleet number. My issue, as I've said before, is that when you spend £1/2 million on a brand new coach and stick any old number on it, it cheapens the whole vehicle. If you compare that to WA's 4601 where they've gone into minute detail with the Walsall Corporation livery and the (nearest available) matching fleet numbers, and then look at the new coaches fleet numbers, NX have finally nailed the corporate image and branding across both bus and coach and these finishing touches should reinforce the company philosophy and brand.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on November 08, 2021, 06:52:41 PM
With failing eye sight in my old age I would prefer larger fleet numbers, unless I'm right on top of the bus I can never make out the number with the current style used.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on November 08, 2021, 07:04:27 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 08, 2021, 07:59:52 AM
In the grand scheme of things, I'm sure it doesn't matter as long as they have a fleet number. My issue, as I've said before, is that when you spend £1/2 million on a brand new coach and stick any old number on it, it cheapens the whole vehicle. If you compare that to WA's 4601 where they've gone into minute detail with the Walsall Corporation livery and the (nearest available) matching fleet numbers, and then look at the new coaches fleet numbers, NX have finally nailed the corporate image and branding across both bus and coach and these finishing touches should reinforce the company philosophy and brand.

On the other hand, the Platinums at AG have the internal fleet number upstairs written in marker pen.  ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 09, 2021, 08:18:03 AM
Quote from: Stu on November 08, 2021, 07:04:27 PM
On the other hand, the Platinums at AG have the internal fleet number upstairs written in marker pen.  ;D

A return to the days where they'd do the same on the Timesavers - fleet numbers in marker on the stairway headboard beghind you as you walk up. In fairness, some used to make a real effort to make them look calligraphied!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on November 11, 2021, 10:12:31 AM
Quote from: ellspurs on November 05, 2021, 04:58:53 PM
You're right - 333 doesn't match 337 which doesn't match 338. I quite clearly didn't look at them properly.

From recent photos on the main site, 3304 and 6912 (YW) have larger than standard fleet numbers on the offside under the driver's window also. Very recently repainted 1811 has standard ones.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on November 24, 2021, 08:16:00 PM
I caught 4737 on the X51 all the way from Birmingham to the Designer Outlet in Cannock this afternoon. It also took 9 passengers of 6714 infront at the Orbital Park which terminated there, before that hadn't been many other passengers since Walsall where it had nearly emptied, the one infront was running quite late presumably.

And I saw 6713 by the big church on Uxbridge Street in Hednesford on a CG4 to Handsacre to.


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 24, 2021, 08:20:05 PM
Quote from: 2206 on November 24, 2021, 08:16:00 PM
I caught 4737 on the X51 all the way from Birmingham to the Designer Outlet in Cannock this afternoon. It also took 9 passengers of 6714 infront at the Orbital Park which terminated there, before that hadn't been many other passengers since Walsall where it had nearly emptied, the one infront was running quite late presumably.

And I saw 6713 by the big church on Uxbridge Street in Hednesford on a CG4 to Handsacre to.

I've been catching the 06:30 from Cannock a few days recently when my first job has been at Walsall garage. I get on at the designer village as that is the closest stop to my house. Normally it has about 3 passengers on before me, by the time it gets to Walsall garage it normally has  about 20 on, so carrying a lot more than @Westy says is on the early 1
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 24, 2021, 10:17:46 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 24, 2021, 08:20:05 PM
I've been catching the 06:30 from Cannock a few days recently when my first job has been at Walsall garage. I get on at the designer village as that is the closest stop to my house. Normally it has about 3 passengers on before me, by the time it gets to Walsall garage it normally has  about 20 on, so carrying a lot more than @Westy says is on the early 1

I'll end up on the Bloxwich Road route over Xmas, as Chaserider will more than likely go to Saturday service at that point, & the 1 doesn't do Saturdays!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 25, 2021, 09:15:10 AM
Great to see 3304 out on the WA10 - are these Streetdecks on general use or on targeted routes?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 25, 2021, 11:26:02 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 25, 2021, 09:15:10 AM
Great to see 3304 out on the WA10 - are these Streetdecks on general use or on targeted routes?

Fairly general, 3301-4 seem to have been got to be reasonably reliable now, 3305 is currently VoR
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 25, 2021, 11:44:32 AM
Quote from: Tony on November 25, 2021, 11:26:02 AM
Fairly general, 3301-4 seem to have been got to be reasonably reliable now, 3305 is currently VoR
I said this some while back that Streetdecks have found the ideal home at Walsall. I'm unsure why they were so unreliable at PN, though the type will be a perfect compliment to the Hydrogen buses when they launch on the 51.

Nice work Walsall Garage!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 25, 2021, 12:09:52 PM
If Wolverhampton can give the Spectras a second life, we're sure Walsall can do the same for the Streetdecks!

Must get round to riding one, now they're over here.

Are they on the Sunday list?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 25, 2021, 12:11:46 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 25, 2021, 12:09:52 PM
If Wolverhampton can give the Spectras a second life, we're sure Walsall can do the same for the Streetdecks!

Must get round to riding one, now they're over here.

Are they on the Sunday list?
I think so, they were on the 9 last Sunday!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on November 25, 2021, 02:39:51 PM
@Wumpty, E200's aren't noteworthy on the 77, you'll see anything on there to be honest...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on November 25, 2021, 02:58:38 PM
Quote from: Jack on November 25, 2021, 02:39:51 PM
@Wumpty, E200's aren't noteworthy on the 77, you'll see anything on there to be honest...

You've posted in the wrong thread. That aside, given the only evidence I can find to support my post, it is noteworthy as this states "any double decker". I have mentioned Streetdecks as noteworthy, only as they are a very small group and were normally confined to certain routes.

https://wmbu.org.uk/enthusiasts/nx-bus-usual-allocations/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on November 25, 2021, 03:05:31 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 25, 2021, 02:58:38 PM
You've posted in the wrong thread.
He hasn't because the 77 is ran by walsall and save clogging up the noteworthy thread as thats just for noteworthy workings we reply in the respective Garage thread hope this helps for the future
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 25, 2021, 05:43:50 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 25, 2021, 12:11:46 PM
I think so, they were on the 9 last Sunday!

Something for my sister to look out for then, but knowing her luck , it'll be late anyway!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on November 25, 2021, 06:25:15 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on November 25, 2021, 02:58:38 PM
You've posted in the wrong thread. That aside, given the only evidence I can find to support my post, it is noteworthy as this states "any double decker". I have mentioned Streetdecks as noteworthy, only as they are a very small group and were normally confined to certain routes.

https://wmbu.org.uk/enthusiasts/nx-bus-usual-allocations/

Nope, as stated in the Noteworthy Workings topic, any comments on posts made in that topic should be posted in the relevant garage thread.

As for the Usual Allocations list, that is unfortunately not updated as often as I would like, mainly as I don't have access to what the usual allocations would be - after all I don't work for NX Bus myself - plus few people suggest changes that need to be made.

So the Usual Allocations list is not to be taken as 'gospel truth' as it can easily go out of date.

I would remind ALL members to keep discussions here civilised and constructive though, that is all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on December 02, 2021, 11:11:42 PM
Don't know if this has been asked already-if it has then apologies. What is going to happen to the Enviros that are about to be replaced by the Hydrogen buses on the 51?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on December 03, 2021, 04:11:59 AM
Quote from: markcf83 on December 02, 2021, 11:11:42 PM
Don't know if this has been asked already-if it has then apologies. What is going to happen to the Enviros that are about to be replaced by the Hydrogen buses on the 51?

It's not been decided yet, or at least not mentioned publicly. Tony mentioned in the thread for the Hydrogen vehicles "As per my regularly answer to questions like this I don't post future transfers".
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on December 03, 2021, 10:11:49 AM
Quote from: DJ on December 03, 2021, 04:11:59 AM
It's not been decided yet, or at least not mentioned publicly. Tony mentioned in the thread for the Hydrogen vehicles "As per my regularly answer to questions like this I don't post future transfers".

That's fair enough.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on December 03, 2021, 09:18:22 PM
Would the X51 be running to Cannock on boxing day?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 03, 2021, 11:11:44 PM
Quote from: Bob on December 03, 2021, 09:18:22 PM
Would the X51 be running to Cannock on boxing day?

That NX web page suggests it, doesn't it, along with the 8 to Lichfield!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 06, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
@Wumpty, Omnilinks and B7RLE's aren't exactly noteworthy on the 997, they aren't odd on the Birmingham services...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 06, 2021, 04:06:04 PM
Quote from: Jack on December 06, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
@Wumpty, Omnilinks and B7RLE's aren't exactly noteworthy on the 997, they aren't odd on the Birmingham services...

Must admit I've never seen Omnilinks or B7Lres on non X51 / 51 routes.

The Platinum subs I normally see on the 997 etc are 'standard' E400's!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on December 06, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
Quote from: Jack on December 06, 2021, 03:46:53 PM
@Wumpty, Omnilinks and B7RLE's aren't exactly noteworthy on the 997, they aren't odd on the Birmingham services...

They're not the allocated type and rarely appear on the 997. So 'Wumpty' is quite right to mention it as noteworthy. It helps the children out to photograph it or as is the current trend, watch it on an online map.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on December 06, 2021, 04:41:49 PM
Quote from: Gareth on December 06, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
They're not the allocated type and rarely appear on the 997. So 'Wumpty' is quite right to mention it as noteworthy. It helps the children out to photograph it or as is the current trend, watch it on an online map.

@Gareth I'd disagree with your statement saying that rarely appear on the 997. In my opinion it happens quite often. You'll often find one on a City service at some point in the week. Like as well as 1887 today (which was a change bus for 6735), 1842 did a trip on the 51 too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 06, 2021, 04:43:18 PM
Quote from: Gareth on December 06, 2021, 04:34:14 PM
They're not the allocated type and rarely appear on the 997. So 'Wumpty' is quite right to mention it as noteworthy. It helps the children out to photograph it or as is the current trend, watch it on an online map.
I see and use the 997 almost everyday, the Omnilinks aren't a rare thing at all on there, they don't rarely appear either, 1835, 1853 and 1892 were all on it on Friday. The 997 out of the B'ham services see's more than the others, I take it you don't see the 997 or use it much either... Its been a common occurrence more so since the CAZ was introduced...


Quote from: Michael Bevan on December 06, 2021, 04:41:49 PM
@Gareth I'd disagree with your statement saying that rarely appear on the 997. In my opinion it happens quite often. You'll often find one on a City service at some point in the week. Like as well as 1887 today (which was a change bus for 6735), 1842 did a trip on the 51 too.
Thank you! But of course the people who never use the service and just post off the tracker know what is and isn't used  ::)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on December 06, 2021, 05:09:00 PM
Then the whole of the noteworthy workings thread is totally pointless then. Because 9 times out of 10 you'll get a bus type that has appeared on that route before. And someone is always quick to point out it's not noteworthy because of x, y or z. If Omnilinks are common on the 997 then they should be added to that spreadsheet (is that still going?) as another vehicle type the route uses.
Seems silly that a single deck non platinum vehicle on a double deck platinum route is normal.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on December 06, 2021, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: Gareth on December 06, 2021, 05:09:00 PM
Then the whole of the noteworthy workings thread is totally pointless then. Because 9 times out of 10 you'll get a bus type that has appeared on that route before. And someone is always quick to point out it's not noteworthy because of x, y or z. If Omnilinks are common on the 997 then they should be added to that spreadsheet (is that still going?) as another vehicle type the route uses.
Seems silly that a single deck non platinum vehicle on a double deck platinum route is normal.

Yes, the spreadsheet is still going, but the problem is that I do not work for NX Bus and do not know 'officially' what the vehicle allocations are at each garage. I can only ever vouch for the routes local to me or that I use myself frequently.

So I rely on other members to make suggestions for amendments in order to try and keep the list as up-to-date as possible, but even so, allocations can change at short notice.

I thank the few members who do point out errors and amendments that need to be made, but I ask that these suggestions are posted in the following thread so that I can keep track and then make changes when I get the opportunity:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4016.0

What I do find tiresome is members making snarky or sniping comments about posted observations, who don't point out inaccuracies so I can get the sheet updated.

And I will also stress that we prefer people report noteworthy workings that they have seen for themselves, rather than by poring over BusTimes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on December 07, 2021, 07:47:53 AM
Quote from: Stu on December 06, 2021, 07:12:42 PM
Yes, the spreadsheet is still going, but the problem is that I do not work for NX Bus and do not know 'officially' what the vehicle allocations are at each garage. I can only ever vouch for the routes local to me or that I use myself frequently.

So I rely on other members to make suggestions for amendments in order to try and keep the list as up-to-date as possible, but even so, allocations can change at short notice.

I thank the few members who do point out errors and amendments that need to be made, but I ask that these suggestions are posted in the following thread so that I can keep track and then make changes when I get the opportunity:
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4016.0

What I do find tiresome is members making snarky or sniping comments about posted observations, who don't point out inaccuracies so I can get the sheet updated.

And I will also stress that we prefer people report noteworthy workings that they have seen for themselves, rather than by poring over BusTimes.

@Stu thanks for the information you DO and CAN provide - it's invaluable and a very good basis for the noteworthy thread. Yes, guilty of breaching the additional posts in "noteworthy" but equally bored of the snarky comments - I've worked in the bus industry over the years (though not presently) and NX are a client of mine so do get some information first hand.

I cover a vast amount of mileage across the region everyday and have access to in-cab vehicle cams on our fleet that will pick up other traffic - indeed, some of the sightings I've reported are from in-cab cams that do throw up some very interesting sightings!

With the redistribution of the fleets to some other routes, the noteworthiness of some routes/vehicle types is ever changing. It could be said that ANY bus on ANY route is no longer noteworthy, though I'll still keep reporting them as I see them, based on the overall probability of a not-usually-allocated type appearing.

Thanks to @Gareth for the support, and still welcome the opinions of @Jack and @Michael Bevan - we'll agree to disagree.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 09, 2021, 06:26:08 PM
70A has been left without a bus simce 14:50 as 2122 the bus supposed to do the 15:20 and stay on there till end of service got took off back to garage then got put on 34
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on December 09, 2021, 06:49:50 PM
Services might be missing due to driver shortages across all garages.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 10, 2021, 11:32:52 PM
Anyone know if the 70 is now booked a platinum as 1 has been on there for most of the week
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 11, 2021, 10:10:48 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 10, 2021, 11:32:52 PM
Anyone know if the 70 is now booked a platinum as 1 has been on there for most of the week

And I spotted a 935 crimson at one point!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on December 11, 2021, 09:20:07 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 10, 2021, 11:32:52 PM
Anyone know if the 70 is now booked a platinum as 1 has been on there for most of the week


Yes booked Platinum due to ASB trouble at Beechdale at night.

Double deck needed as fully loaded with school kids 0820 from Walsall.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 11, 2021, 09:45:33 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on December 11, 2021, 09:20:07 PM

Yes booked Platinum due to ASB trouble at Beechdale at night.

Double deck needed as fully loaded with school kids 0820 from Walsall.
If there ASB going on at beechdale why is it booked a platinum do they have alot of spare windows for them then or something
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 11, 2021, 09:51:06 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 11, 2021, 09:45:33 PM
If there ASB going on at beechdale why is it booked a platinum do they have alot of spare windows for them then or something

Highest quality CCTV
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 11, 2021, 10:39:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2021, 09:51:06 PM
Highest quality CCTV
Also replacement windows for MMC's are quicker to fit and set than any others.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 11, 2021, 11:05:39 PM
Quote from: Jack on December 11, 2021, 10:39:25 PM
Also replacement windows for MMC's are quicker to fit and set than any others.
Quote from: Tony on December 11, 2021, 09:51:06 PM
Highest quality CCTV
Ah ok cheers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 28, 2021, 06:58:51 PM
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/walsall/2021/12/28/multiple-buses-damaged-in-fire-at-walsall-depot/

Sadly from reports elsewhere, 4601 is the main casualty!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on December 29, 2021, 08:57:27 AM
4573+6746 +6740 +1878 also damaged I wonder if any 17xx will be reinstated as cover.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on December 29, 2021, 09:54:37 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on December 29, 2021, 08:57:27 AM
4573+6746 +6740 +1878 also damaged I wonder if any 17xx will be reinstated as cover.

I heard that the 17xx B7s had been sold, but it's not confirmed, so we'll see.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on December 29, 2021, 10:26:30 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on December 29, 2021, 08:57:27 AM
4573+6746 +6740 +1878 also damaged I wonder if any 17xx will be reinstated as cover.
A few omnlilinks from the withdrawn PB 96 to Walsall as  cover could happen.
Maybe some of the 1899 - 1907 batch will return to Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 29, 2021, 02:32:59 PM
Quote from: 2206 on December 29, 2021, 10:26:30 AM
A few omnlilinks from the withdrawn PB 96 to Walsall as  cover could happen.
Maybe some of the 1899 - 1907 batch will return to Walsall?

Nothing is going anywhere to save any speculation. Walsall have 20 brand new buses and nothing has left the garage since they arrived
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BBS on December 29, 2021, 02:49:28 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 29, 2021, 02:32:59 PM
Nothing is going anywhere to save any speculation. Walsall have 20 brand new buses and nothing has left the garage since they arrived
yes they can use the new hydrogens but I do think its best to train drivers with hydrogens just In case like what happened yesterday. Will indeed miss seeing 4601 on the roads.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 29, 2021, 03:39:40 PM
Quote from: bbs on December 29, 2021, 02:49:28 PM
yes they can use the new hydrogens but I do think its best to train drivers with hydrogens just In case like what happened yesterday. Will indeed miss seeing 4601 on the roads.


Not sure on your point here, all drivers are trained on all buses they drive
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 29, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
I've got the impression from previous posts that the hydrogens are only allowed on the 51?(& an X51 board)

Is that correct?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on December 29, 2021, 05:34:04 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 29, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
I've got the impression from previous posts that the hydrogens are only allowed on the 51?(& an X51 board)

Is that correct?
only for 51 I read
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on December 29, 2021, 06:35:52 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 29, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
I've got the impression from previous posts that the hydrogens are only allowed on the 51?(& an X51 board)

Is that correct?

That is correct, my understanding is that Birmingham city council have requested these only be used on the 51 (and those X51 journeys on 51 running board).

With 20 brand new hydrogen buses now available, some of the current E400s are now 'spare' so there is no need for Walsall to transfer in any vehicles to replace those damaged in this fire.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 02, 2022, 07:45:37 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 29, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
I've got the impression from previous posts that the hydrogens are only allowed on the 51?(& an X51 board)

Is that correct?

Are any brum to cannock/vice versa trips on the 51/X51 board?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on January 15, 2022, 08:57:34 PM
Why has 1767 been painted green
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on January 15, 2022, 10:49:22 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on January 15, 2022, 08:57:34 PM
Why has 1767 been painted green

New owner paid for it for a guess?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on January 16, 2022, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on January 15, 2022, 10:49:22 PM
New owner paid for it for a guess?

Yep, although it'll have a touch of brighter green too once finished, although I presume that'll be vinyl. The company they're going to is pretty well known for their green buses.  ;)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on January 17, 2022, 08:56:53 AM
Quote from: DJ on January 16, 2022, 02:16:15 PM
Yep, although it'll have a touch of brighter green too once finished, although I presume that'll be vinyl. The company they're going to is pretty well known for their green buses.  ;)
Luxton & District perhaps  :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on January 24, 2022, 08:17:15 AM
Great to see the oldest and newest Walsall buses on the 51 today - 4125 and the Hydrogens working alongside each other.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Martin on January 25, 2022, 10:16:52 PM
I've just seen a picture on Facebook of 1834 in Walsall corporation colours has it been photoshopped or is it real Tony ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 27, 2022, 09:01:06 AM
Some photos have been posted on Facebook of 1834 in it's Walsall Corporation livery. According to the post, it should be out on the 4's (4/H/M) today.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on January 28, 2022, 08:50:10 PM
Saw 1834 on the 8 through Brownhills today, boy does the Walsall heritage livery suit this vehicle, looks absolutely superb. My only disappointment was the lack of the large logo fleet numbers in that yellowy/cream colour that Walsall Corporation used to use.
Congrats to the paintshop though a really superb job.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 28, 2022, 09:01:21 PM
Quote from: 888DUK on January 28, 2022, 08:50:10 PM
Saw 1834 on the 8 through Brownhills today, boy does the Walsall heritage livery suit this vehicle, looks absolutely superb. My only disappointment was the lack of the large logo fleet numbers in that yellowy/cream colour that Walsall Corporation used to use.
Congrats to the paintshop though a really superb job.

Numbers are exactly the same style as 4601 had, but slightly smaller because full size ones would have overlapped the emergency door button flap.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on January 28, 2022, 10:09:57 PM
Thanks for the explanation Tony👍
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on January 31, 2022, 09:39:27 AM
Is there a permanent 51/X51 board with an Omnilink allocation? Seems to be more frequent though didn't know if it was the same running board.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 31, 2022, 09:53:50 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on January 31, 2022, 09:39:27 AM
Is there a permanent 51/X51 board with an Omnilink allocation? Seems to be more frequent though didn't know if it was the same running board.

No. It is just with the Birmingham CAZ last minute allocations tend to be single decks as the Tridents (except 4125) are not compliant
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on January 31, 2022, 10:13:30 AM
Quote from: Tony on January 31, 2022, 09:53:50 AM
No. It is just with the Birmingham CAZ last minute allocations tend to be single decks as the Tridents (except 4125) are not compliant

Cheers @Tony - Thought so. I wanted to check before I popped them into noteworthy workings and got shot down for doing so LOL!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 02, 2022, 10:03:46 AM
I've just fuelled H1013 which is one that hasn't been out since the trackers worked, but is likely to be out tomorrow
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on February 02, 2022, 11:12:26 AM
Quote from: Tony on February 02, 2022, 10:03:46 AM
I've just fuelled H1013 which is one that hasn't been out since the trackers worked, but is likely to be out tomorrow
How long does it take to fuel them?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 02, 2022, 11:59:15 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on February 02, 2022, 11:12:26 AM
How long does it take to fuel them?

I'll know tomorrow! It's supposed to be the first day the commercial pumps are fully operational. Takes about 15 min in the light vehicle pump
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 02, 2022, 07:47:32 PM
My sister caught 1834 today, on the 9, referring to it as the 'funny looking bus'!

My reaction, 'It's the old Walsall colours!'

(Rolls eyes)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 09, 2022, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on February 09, 2022, 03:38:34 PM
3305 is on WASFA2. First time one has ventured over to Tamworth on an SFA school run I believe.
I saw that while I was waiting for the 110 at Bassetts Pole this afternoon at 16.00. The streetdeck came out the road up the top and went left towards Tamworth. Also a crimson E400 with a rear ad infront of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on February 09, 2022, 09:13:50 PM
Quote from: 2206 on February 09, 2022, 05:35:09 PM
I saw that while I was waiting for the 110 at Bassetts Pole this afternoon at 16.00. The streetdeck came out the road up the top and went left towards Tamworth. Also a crimson E400 with a rear ad infront of it.
That would of been 4736
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 11, 2022, 05:05:27 PM
@Wumpty, for the 3rd time it's not noteworthy to have Omnilinks (or B7RLE's) on the B'ham services. Even Tony has confirmed they will be used when there's not enough compliant Deckers.

Someone who uses these services a lot it's irritating when you post them, considering there was 5 on them the other day didn't see you start posting them!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on February 12, 2022, 12:44:53 AM
Thought it would be best placed in here but on the upcoming bus service changes from the 20th February according to this NX are operating the 1/1A and the 3 between brownhills and cannock with a new timetable now i could see the 3 being a possibility but the 1 is that a mistake on there end or is this true
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on February 12, 2022, 12:47:00 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on February 12, 2022, 12:44:53 AM
Thought it would be best placed in here but on the upcoming bus service changes on the TFWM website fom the 20th February according to this NX are operating the 1/1A and the 3 between brownhills and cannock with a new timetable now i could see the 3 being a possibility but the 1 is that a mistake on there end or is this true

Heres what it says

1/1A - Cannock to Walsall
Some journeys renumbered 1A and diverted via Cheslyn Hay, all journeys will operate via Delta Way, Longford Road and Avon Road.


3 - Cannock to Brownhills
New route and timetable introduced following award of Staffs CC tender.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on February 12, 2022, 06:16:15 AM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on February 12, 2022, 12:44:53 AM
Thought it would be best placed in here but on the upcoming bus service changes from the 20th February according to this NX are operating the 1/1A and the 3 between brownhills and cannock with a new timetable now i could see the 3 being a possibility but the 1 is that a mistake on there end or is this true

https://twitter.com/ChaseriderBus/status/1491071058551574529?t=5N73_Z5q0gI9Wj6U3E8oYw&s=19

https://twitter.com/ChaseriderBus/status/1490680237436416003?t=YaXflWzM0h_AiqcXLE4hmA&s=19

Both to be operated by Chaserider
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on February 12, 2022, 01:37:44 PM
Quote from: 888DUK on February 12, 2022, 06:16:15 AM
https://twitter.com/ChaseriderBus/status/1491071058551574529?t=5N73_Z5q0gI9Wj6U3E8oYw&s=19

https://twitter.com/ChaseriderBus/status/1490680237436416003?t=YaXflWzM0h_AiqcXLE4hmA&s=19

Both to be operated by Chaserider
Ok cheers bad mistake by TFWM then
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 13, 2022, 06:16:55 PM
I caught 6892 Ward End into Town earlier on the 95, the 11.47 one I think. And  it passed a 34/39 branded scania on Nechells Parkway heading out of town the other way NIS.
Wonder where that one was going?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 13, 2022, 08:05:02 PM
Quote from: 2206 on February 13, 2022, 06:16:55 PM
I caught 6892 Ward End into Town earlier on the 95, the 11.47 one I think. And  it passed a 34/39 branded scania on Nechells Parkway heading out of town the other way NIS.
Wonder where that one was going?

Back to garage?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 13, 2022, 08:28:29 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 13, 2022, 08:05:02 PM
Back to garage?
Doubt it.
If it was heading back to garage it'd go out along the Birchfield Road rather than 94/95 route?

I think TGB and Ridleys have been running cross country Rail Reps to Coleshill this weekend to, so could be route learning those maybe, but i'm not sure.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 13, 2022, 10:17:44 PM
Looking at Bustimes.Org, only one of the 34/39 branded vehicles hasn't been in service today, assuming the data is correct, so would that be the vehicle concerned?

(I'm guessing it's ticket machine or whatever does the tracking wasn't switched on, else it would have shown up on the website?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on February 13, 2022, 10:56:40 PM
It was doing route learning for the rail replacements.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 13, 2022, 11:13:23 PM
Quote from: DJ on February 13, 2022, 10:56:40 PM
It was doing route learning for the rail replacements.
Thanks for confirming.
Quote from: Westy on February 13, 2022, 10:17:44 PM
(I'm guessing it's ticket machine or whatever does the tracking wasn't switched on, else it would have shown up on the website?)
6892 didn't track on its 95 trip either. So NX had stopped tracking at the time I think.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on February 14, 2022, 07:13:09 AM
Quote from: Jack on February 11, 2022, 05:05:27 PM
@Wumpty, for the 3rd time it's not noteworthy to have Omnilinks (or B7RLE's) on the B'ham services. Even Tony has confirmed they will be used when there's not enough compliant Deckers.

Someone who uses these services a lot it's irritating when you post them, considering there was 5 on them the other day didn't see you start posting them!

Morning @Jack, good to see you haven't lost any of your usual effervescent charm and manners.  I asked the question of Tony if these are usual allocations and they are not. They are back ups for shortages of non-compliant deckers, therefore, in my opinion, if they are not the usual allocation, then they are noteworthy.

As for "the other day", I work full time and have a life outside of this forum and post when I want. Perhaps you should try it sometime, or engage positively with other forum users, and you may be taken more seriously.

Enjoy your next journey on these routes - hope you get an Omnilink :D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 14, 2022, 10:28:28 AM
Quote from: Jack on February 11, 2022, 05:05:27 PM
@Wumpty, for the 3rd time it's not noteworthy to have Omnilinks (or B7RLE's) on the B'ham services. Even Tony has confirmed they will be used when there's not enough compliant Deckers.

Someone who uses these services a lot it's irritating when you post them, considering there was 5 on them the other day didn't see you start posting them!

At no point do I remember appointing @Jack a moderator on this forum!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 14, 2022, 06:34:34 PM
Quote from: Jack on February 11, 2022, 05:05:27 PM
@Wumpty, for the 3rd time it's not noteworthy to have Omnilinks (or B7RLE's) on the B'ham services. Even Tony has confirmed they will be used when there's not enough compliant Deckers.

While OmniLinks or B7RLEs do occasionally get used, the point here is that they are NOT the usual allocation.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on March 08, 2022, 06:38:09 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on March 04, 2022, 08:21:49 AM
1898 - 51

Spotted via remotecam

Quote from: Wumpty on March 07, 2022, 11:33:16 AM
1835 - X51

Spotted via remotecam on Bloxwich Road.

Quote from: Wumpty on March 08, 2022, 09:10:51 AM
1895 - 51  Spotted via remotecam in Walsall
1886 - 51  Spotted via remotecam on Birmingham Road/Broadway islands

@Wumpty do you not get the feeling that these may not be that noteworthy anymore?  ;D
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 08, 2022, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: Stu on March 08, 2022, 06:38:09 PM
@Wumpty do you not get the feeling that these may not be that noteworthy anymore?  ;D
That was my point exactly but you're asking for your head to be bitten off to be quite honest...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on March 08, 2022, 10:58:46 PM
Surely any bus that isn't the allocated type is noteworthy? If that's not the case then just get rid of the thread. These workings can just be posted in the relevant garage thread. At least discussion can be had there, unlike the so called 'noteworthy workings' thread which bizarrely doesn't allow any kind of discussion, but it's fine to reply to that comment elsewhere.
In the past two years buses are being used anywhere and everywhere quite regularly. Keep it all in the garage threads.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 09, 2022, 06:58:50 AM
Quote from: Gareth on March 08, 2022, 10:58:46 PM
Surely any bus that isn't the allocated type is noteworthy? If that's not the case then just get rid of the thread. These workings can just be posted in the relevant garage thread. At least discussion can be had there, unlike the so called 'noteworthy workings' thread which bizarrely doesn't allow any kind of discussion, but it's fine to reply to that comment elsewhere.
In the past two years buses are being used anywhere and everywhere quite regularly. Keep it all in the garage threads.

I've always found it rather disjointed with the comments in one thread, but any further comments have to go in a different thread.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on March 09, 2022, 07:33:00 AM
Quote from: Stu on March 08, 2022, 06:38:09 PM
@Wumpty do you not get the feeling that these may not be that noteworthy anymore?  ;D

@Stu I report based on the allocations on https://wmbu.org.uk/enthusiasts/nx-bus-usual-allocations/ that tell us what is/isn't noteworthy. If these ARE more commonly used, then once the list is updated, I'll stop reporting. The Omnilinks are probably more noteworthy now given that they are being withdrawn/placed into reserve and the type will become a more infrequent occurrence on Walsall Garage routes like 51/X51 as reported.. Are you involved in updating this list still - if you are then perhaps the routes that are felt no longer noteworthy should include ALL types that are now "Also commonly used"? This would help us greatly.

Quote from: Gareth on March 08, 2022, 10:58:46 PM
Surely any bus that isn’t the allocated type is noteworthy? If that’s not the case then just get rid of the thread. These workings can just be posted in the relevant garage thread. At least discussion can be had there, unlike the so called ‘noteworthy workings’ thread which bizarrely doesn’t allow any kind of discussion, but it’s fine to reply to that comment elsewhere.
In the past two years buses are being used anywhere and everywhere quite regularly. Keep it all in the garage threads.

Exactly MY point @Gareth - how often does a bus need to be used on a route where it is not usually allocated to become no longer noteworthy? As I've mentioned above, the Omnilinks are probably more noteworthy now given that they are being withdrawn/placed into reserve.

Quote from: Jack on March 08, 2022, 06:39:32 PM
That was my point exactly but you’re asking for your head to be bitten off to be quite honest…

Your previous posts do, on occasion, actually contain some merit, then you shoot yourself in the foot with sarcastic and childish remarks like this @Jack that make you appear like a wannabe moderator - perhaps you could offer a constructive answer to the question above.......how often does a bus need to be used on a route where it is not usually allocated to become no longer noteworthy?

As with anything like this, there needs to me a measure against the frequency of use to deem it no longer noteworthy or simply just close the thread.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on March 09, 2022, 09:06:54 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on March 09, 2022, 07:33:00 AM
the Omnilinks are probably more noteworthy now given that they are being withdrawn/placed into reserve.
Still 50 odd scanias allocated there at present. 

They might become less common on there in the comming weeks/months though maybe, when more streetdecks are used, so more compliant buses at that garage available for service. Presuming the Sprint service will start running by July?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 09, 2022, 09:40:18 AM
Must admit I've never been a fan of the Omnilinks.

Along with the B6's, I found them a bit cramped.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on March 09, 2022, 10:37:45 AM
Quote from: Westy on March 09, 2022, 09:40:18 AM
Must admit I've never been a fan of the Omnilinks.

Along with the B6's, I found them a bit cramped.

Likewise, while the look and feel of them has held up remarkably well (slap a private plate on a 57 plate one and you could convince a lot of people that it's a lot newer!), the interiors do feel very cramped. I get both OmniLinks and B7RLEs on my local 11/11A, and I much prefer when one of the latter turns up.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 09, 2022, 03:11:37 PM
Quote from: DJ on March 09, 2022, 10:37:45 AM
Likewise, while the look and feel of them has held up remarkably well (slap a private plate on a 57 plate one and you could convince a lot of people that it's a lot newer!), the interiors do feel very cramped. I get both OmniLinks and B7RLEs on my local 11/11A, and I much prefer when one of the latter turns up.

Feel your pain, for the 11 / 11a mate, having caught that for a few years!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 09, 2022, 03:13:19 PM
Quote from: DJ on March 09, 2022, 10:37:45 AM
Likewise, while the look and feel of them has held up remarkably well (slap a private plate on a 57 plate one and you could convince a lot of people that it's a lot newer!), the interiors do feel very cramped. I get both OmniLinks and B7RLEs on my local 11/11A, and I much prefer when one of the latter turns up.
I'd much rather an Omnilink over an Urban 2, liked them since they first came about in 2007 at Perry Barr, a lot better things than a boring and dreary Urban 2. NX's Urban 2's are decent but the Omnilinks I much prefer and love. Diamond's Urban 2's seem a lot more better than NX's in my opinion they have more power and speed as soon as the driver hits the accelerator.

Besides that I can't see Walsall not having no Omnilinks at all, they have nowhere near enough Urban 2's to use, I can see a lot from Coventry being used if that was to happen which I hope doesn't, the Omnilinks have aged well, and the recently repainted ones look brand new on the outside!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 09, 2022, 04:16:41 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 09, 2022, 03:13:19 PM
I'd much rather an Omnilink over an Urban 2, liked them since they first came about in 2007 at Perry Barr, a lot better things than a boring and dreary Urban 2. NX's Urban 2's are decent but the Omnilinks I much prefer and love. Diamond's Urban 2's seem a lot more better than NX's in my opinion they have more power and speed as soon as the driver hits the accelerator.

Besides that I can't see Walsall not having no Omnilinks at all, they have nowhere near enough Urban 2's to use, I can see a lot from Coventry being used if that was to happen which I hope doesn't, the Omnilinks have aged well, and the recently repainted ones look brand new on the outside!

Omnilinks are not aging well, you will notice NX are not the only company choosing to park up Omnilinks and Omnicities  at the moment. Your dislike of B7RLES is because they are boring? That is exactly what a bus should be. It is bad journies that put people off buses, if they are instantly forgettable the bus is doing what it should.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on March 09, 2022, 05:21:25 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 09, 2022, 04:16:41 PM
Omnilinks are not aging well, you will notice NX are not the only company choosing to park up Omnilinks and Omnicities  at the moment. Your dislike of B7RLES is because they are boring? That is exactly what a bus should be. It is bad journies that put people off buses, if they are instantly forgettable the bus is doing what it should.

I'll have to disagree with that statement, if the journey is forgettable, then the company is doing a bad job. Now, if customers remember the journey, perhaps for being quick, frequent, or having a nice vehicle such as a Platinum, or the staff being friendly and helpful, then it's doing what it should. Providing a good service that people will remember will keep customers returning, and hopefully attract new ones through word of mouth.

Current passenger numbers are still down compared to pre-Covid as far as I'm aware, and the industry as a whole needs to be doing more to attract people back to buses, both to keep the industry sustainable, and to play a part in reducing pollution and congestion.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 09, 2022, 05:38:39 PM
Quote from: DJ on March 09, 2022, 05:21:25 PM
I'll have to disagree with that statement, if the journey is forgettable, then the company is doing a bad job. Now, if customers remember the journey, perhaps for being quick, frequent, or having a nice vehicle such as a Platinum, or the staff being friendly and helpful, then it's doing what it should. Providing a good service that people will remember will keep customers returning, and hopefully attract new ones through word of mouth.

Current passenger numbers are still down compared to pre-Covid as far as I'm aware, and the industry as a whole needs to be doing more to attract people back to buses, both to keep the industry sustainable, and to play a part in reducing pollution and congestion.

I go into work every day on the train. In general WMR do an excellent job and I get a comfy enough seat and arrive on time. I don't remember those journies as the service is to the standard I expect which will attract people onto the train. Same applies to bus journies If the company does the job to a high standard every day you don't remember those journies, only the one where they don't meet a high standard.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on March 10, 2022, 07:34:14 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 09, 2022, 04:16:41 PM
Omnilinks are not aging well, you will notice NX are not the only company choosing to park up Omnilinks and Omnicities  at the moment. Your dislike of B7RLES is because they are boring? That is exactly what a bus should be. It is bad journies that put people off buses, if they are instantly forgettable the bus is doing what it should.

Agree with this statement, and could be applied to any journey whether by bus, coach or train (as mentioned further down).

Quote from: Jack on March 09, 2022, 03:13:19 PM
.................... the Omnilinks have aged well, and the recently repainted ones look brand new on the outside!

If I'm reading right (and you won't hear this very often!), @Jack does have a point. From an aesthetics perspective, the Omnilinks have aged very well IMHO, though this is very much subjective. They're a smart looking bus and don't look their age on the surface, however as @Tony has pointed out, structurally and underneath it's a different story altogether, with many operators retiring, or have already retired the type, much earlier than they'd have wanted. Certainly passengers that I've spoken to on the WA9 have lauded the arrival of the Omnilinks in favour of Platinums (as I've posted previously).

It's testament to NXWM, indeed the Walsall engineering team that they've gotten the best out of Omnilinks for this long given their issues, though even with their expertise and as the old adage goes, "you can't polish a turd".
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on March 17, 2022, 12:40:33 PM
Absolutely nothing wrong with the Urban 2s. Solid single deck buses, remarkable that they're only 10-12 years old.

Omnilinks on the other hand, I don't dislike, but have not aged well at all
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on March 18, 2022, 01:51:30 PM
Has something happened on the X51 route? The 13.30 and 13.50 havent turned up in Cannock and the nearest Cannock bound ones in Gt Wyrley!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on March 18, 2022, 02:16:39 PM
probably because of M6 being closed at junction 7 in Great Barr
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: I love Walsall buses on March 19, 2022, 01:10:48 PM
4569 has had a thermal incident while on the 10 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 19, 2022, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on March 19, 2022, 01:10:48 PM
4569 has had a thermal incident while on the 10 today

Pictures on Facebook somewhere!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on March 19, 2022, 06:56:59 PM
Quote from: cris 99 on March 18, 2022, 02:16:39 PM
probably because of M6 being closed at junction 7 in Great Barr

Ah i did wonder
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on March 29, 2022, 07:00:35 PM
4352 has Been involved In a RTC on Bloxwich Road by Leamore whilst working Route 31
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 29, 2022, 07:56:54 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on March 29, 2022, 07:00:35 PM
4352 has Been involved I an RTC on Bloxwich Road by Leamore whilst Route 31

Looking at the damage that is another March withdrawal!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: AIR on March 29, 2022, 09:10:51 PM
Oh no a disaster (although some WA drivers may disagree)! That bus couldn't half move. I struggled to catch up with it the other week which made it ideal for the Tamworth SFA allocations.
With another Trident gone there seems to be a greater possibility that the services will be allocated either E400's and Platinums more frequently again. These seem to be slower at accelerating away either from a stop or the plethora of speed humps in Tamworth they have to negotiate (on both routes). Although in reality it may only make a small difference of maybe between 2 or 3 minutes or so in time I think the perception is that they seem to take ages. Certainly the afternoon services which have very rarely been a Trident (SFA1 now is again) seem to not keep to or make up time (if late leaving school due to the traffic).
Tony is there any likelihood of any others being shipped in for the time being to cover...4327 or even 4354 re-instated maybe??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 29, 2022, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: AIR on March 29, 2022, 09:10:51 PM
Oh no a disaster (although some WA drivers may disagree)! That bus couldn't half move. I struggled to catch up with it the other week which made it ideal for the Tamworth SFA allocations.
With another Trident gone there seems to be a greater possibility that the services will be allocated either E400's and Platinums more frequently again. These seem to be slower at accelerating away either from a stop or the plethora of speed humps in Tamworth they have to negotiate (on both routes). Although in reality it may only make a small difference of maybe between 2 or 3 minutes or so in time I think the perception is that they seem to take ages. Certainly the afternoon services which have very rarely been a Trident (SFA1 now is again) seem to not keep to or make up time (if late leaving school due to the traffic).
Tony is there any likelihood of any others being shipped in for the time being to cover...4327 or even 4354 re-instated maybe??
4576 from Coventry? They've shoved the other Crimson's back would make sense, also it would be with the other 45**?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Kevin on April 01, 2022, 08:37:12 AM
(from the Claribels thread to avoid going massively off topic....)

Quote from: Tony on March 31, 2022, 07:13:56 PM
The X15 is being included into the running boards covering all these routes as well. NXWM instead of bidding for all the different routes put one combined bid in to cover the X15, 77, 167, 168 & 604 which will all be run by Walsall garage

LOL, what? Walsall? The garage that have twice given up the 77 so that a closer garage can run it? So extending it back to Walsall then or running it from a distance/interworking it to guarantee it will all fail?

Oh how the once mighty 377 has fallen into a route that gets all the tendered contract stuff added in
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 01, 2022, 09:56:14 AM
Quote from: Kevin on April 01, 2022, 08:37:12 AM
(from the Claribels thread to avoid going massively off topic....)

LOL, what? Walsall? The garage that have twice given up the 77 so that a closer garage can run it? So extending it back to Walsall then or running it from a distance/interworking it to guarantee it will all fail?

Oh how the once mighty 377 has fallen into a route that gets all the tendered contract stuff added in

Can a garage 'give up' a route or is it more complicated than that?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 01, 2022, 10:38:22 AM
Quote from: Kevin on April 01, 2022, 08:37:12 AM
(from the Claribels thread to avoid going massively off topic....)

LOL, what? Walsall? The garage that have twice given up the 77 so that a closer garage can run it? So extending it back to Walsall then or running it from a distance/interworking it to guarantee it will all fail?

Oh how the once mighty 377 has fallen into a route that gets all the tendered contract stuff added in

Mighty 377? A route that was deemed suitable for minibuses was back in the 1980s! At least these changes put this back to a proper service between Walsall & Sutton Coldfield and gives through links to various parts of Erdington
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on April 01, 2022, 11:15:34 AM
Quote from: Westy on April 01, 2022, 09:56:14 AM
Can a garage 'give up' a route or is it more complicated than that?

Not quite "give up a route", though I see where @Kevin is coming from.

There's a number of factors that would influence such a decision - bus types, available labour, available number of buses on fleet and interworking ability to name just some main areas.

It's not the first time that Walsall have operated out of its own patch. Walsall covered the 900 for a time between Coventry and Birmingham, West Bromwich 410/411 and the Wolverhampton 527/528 Circulars, all with due consideration to the above factors.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on April 02, 2022, 10:34:20 AM
377 was once a mighty Route December 1993 - March 1994

Walsall- Sutton Coldfield - Erdington - Bromford - Chelmsley Wood round trip of around 3 hrs.

https://flic.kr/p/DXm26d
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on April 04, 2022, 07:12:30 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on April 02, 2022, 10:34:20 AM377 was once a mighty Route December 1993 - March 1994

Walsall- Sutton Coldfield - Erdington - Bromford - Chelmsley Wood round trip of around 3 hrs.

https://flic.kr/p/DXm26d

Aaaaaah, the old Beacon Area!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on April 04, 2022, 07:51:20 PM
I remember it not lasting very long all because of the 25
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 06, 2022, 07:59:52 PM
6746 has just arrived back at Walsall garage fully repaired from being too close to 4601. Won't be out for a bit though. Paint shop first, then needs a new MoT
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on April 07, 2022, 10:59:42 AM
Quote from: Tony on April 06, 2022, 07:59:52 PM6746 has just arrived back at Walsall garage fully repaired from being too close to 4601. Won't be out for a bit though. Paint shop first, then needs a new MoT
Plenty of aftersun then Tony!!!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: windy miller on April 09, 2022, 01:38:04 AM
    I notice most if not all of the hydrogen vehicles appear to
    have no operating date(s) beyond febuary in the service lists?
     presumably there are no fixed services on a daily basis?
        so no tracking facility available ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 09, 2022, 08:55:05 AM
Quote from: windy miller on April 09, 2022, 01:38:04 AMI notice most if not all of the hydrogen vehicles appear to
    have no operating date(s) beyond febuary in the service lists?
     presumably there are no fixed services on a daily basis?
        so no tracking facility available ?
Yes none of them have been in service for a while now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: windy miller on April 10, 2022, 03:15:26 AM
  Many thanks for the info is there any particular reason for their
  absence?  I'm guessing there may not be enough covid free
  drivers familiar with the design?

 Incidentally, Despite having THREE covid jabs I still caught
a relativly mild covid related virus a few weeks ago.... I had a variety of symptoms...lack of sleep/..or bowel movements...
... a high temperature/ shaking /loss of appetite for two or three days but mainly coughing/phlegm I kept taking paracetamol and beechams remedies but I was never in any pain and  it all cleared up within 8 days so make sure you wear a mask in public !.... 
 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Solo1 on April 10, 2022, 03:31:43 AM
The hydrogen buses are having work done & the refueling place has a problem til mid April
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 03, 2022, 07:01:06 AM
Probably not a notable working,  but 6738 on the 41 this morning.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 03, 2022, 04:36:20 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 03, 2022, 07:01:06 AMProbably not a notable working,  but 6738 on the 41 this morning.

That board is booked as E400 as goes onto a 997 from 1604 Walsall still noteworthy. 

6727on 31
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 03, 2022, 06:08:18 PM
To be honest, I was thinking it wasn't notable, because most routes in Walsall saw a Platinum during the early part of the pandemic, or does that no longer count?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on May 03, 2022, 06:54:42 PM
I can't remember if I've actually seen an X15 in service before? Is it Walsall operated? Noticed a 4 Branded Omnilink on it today. I always thought/assumed it was PB operated. Unless I've just missed something somewhere and not paid attention.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on May 03, 2022, 07:07:03 PM
Quote from: Gareth on May 03, 2022, 06:54:42 PMI can't remember if I've actually seen an X15 in service before? Is it Walsall operated? Noticed a 4 Branded Omnilink on it today. I always thought/assumed it was PB operated. Unless I've just missed something somewhere and not paid attention.
It used to be operated by PB, but following the 24th April changes I believe it now shares the same rota and interworks with the extended 77/77A services.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 03, 2022, 07:50:45 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 03, 2022, 07:07:03 PMIt used to be operated by PB, but following the 24th April changes I believe it now shares the same rota and interworks with the extended 77/77A services.
X15 used to work of several PB routes.  28 and would run dead to City from Heartlands via Ward End normally 18XX branded scanias on that board, 815 school etc which would see deckers..
I used to see the 28 branded scania while on the 94/95.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 04, 2022, 06:56:55 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 03, 2022, 06:08:18 PMTo be honest, I was thinking it wasn't notable, because most routes in Walsall saw a Platinum during the early part of the pandemic, or does that no longer count?
3304 on that 41 journey today. 

Just spotted in Walsall Bus Station. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 05, 2022, 06:56:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 04, 2022, 06:56:55 AM3304 on that 41 journey today.

Just spotted in Walsall Bus Station.
3305 today. 

Can someone explain why it is necessary for that particular journey to come on stand about 9 minutes early, thus preventing the Chaserider from unloading/picking up?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on May 05, 2022, 07:31:59 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 05, 2022, 06:56:14 AM3305 today.

Can someone explain why it is necessary for that particular journey to come on stand about 9 minutes early, thus preventing the Chaserider from unloading/picking up?
Probably because no one expects Chaserider to turn up (I am joking! I'll get me coat!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 05, 2022, 05:56:14 PM
Are there issues with the X51 to Cannock? At brum from about 435 and about 4 walsall bound ones came but none to Cannock! Got the 17.14 one in the end
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on May 05, 2022, 05:58:48 PM
Quote from: Bob on May 05, 2022, 05:56:14 PMAre there issues with the X51 to Cannock? At brum from about 435 and about 4 walsall bound ones came but none to Cannock! Got the 17.14 one in the end

Driver shortage can cause Cannock bound journeys to terminate at WALSALL no onward Driver to take over.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 05, 2022, 06:47:53 PM
Crikey, didnt think i was ever gonna get home! I was thinking once sprint lane etcs up n running will the x51 use it too? Could shave a bit of time off the journey time end to end 👍
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 17, 2022, 10:14:06 AM
2143 first day in service today at Walsall on the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 22, 2022, 09:37:20 AM
Currently at Walsall garage, before any excitement it is only here to test the new sprint route is suitable for bendibuses  (https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/281744349_380921367417014_5450907474923618410_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s2048x2048&_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=egLkmEgqm5EAX-7-tnY&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&oh=03_AVI2T5SJTayw3FHx06e7AHS37jCDUcEo2duIb46bX6j8tg&oe=62B11683)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 24, 2022, 10:46:51 AM
Citaro bendy bus by Birmingham Moor Street at 10:00. Think it was heading towards Solihull.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on May 24, 2022, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: Tony on May 22, 2022, 09:37:20 AMCurrently at Walsall garage, before any excitement it is only here to test the new sprint route is suitable for bendibuses  (https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/281744349_380921367417014_5450907474923618410_n.jpg?stp=dst-jpg_s2048x2048&_nc_cat=100&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=ae9488&_nc_ohc=egLkmEgqm5EAX-7-tnY&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&oh=03_AVI2T5SJTayw3FHx06e7AHS37jCDUcEo2duIb46bX6j8tg&oe=62B11683)
Is this on loan from Travel Coventry Preservation Group?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on May 24, 2022, 11:26:33 AM
Quote from: Wumpty on May 24, 2022, 11:10:16 AMIs this on loan from Travel Coventry Preservation Group?
No.
Its a NX bus from Stanstead.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on May 24, 2022, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on May 24, 2022, 11:10:16 AMIs this on loan from Travel Coventry Preservation Group?
Why would they have a 21-plate bus preserved? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 24, 2022, 07:07:27 PM
QuoteWhy would they have a 21-plate bus preserved? :rolleyes:
Would need to be a very rich preservation group
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on May 27, 2022, 07:31:01 AM
Quote from: Tony on May 24, 2022, 07:07:27 PMWould need to be a very rich preservation group
Quote from: Stu on May 24, 2022, 07:03:23 PMWhy would they have a 21-plate bus preserved? :rolleyes:



I didn't see it was a Stanstead bendi until after posting. Hope your eyes get better soon Stu  :wink:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 21, 2022, 07:03:31 AM
The first X51 from Cannock was appropriately heavy, by the time it reached me in Leamore. 

I think it picked up at every stop as well, so by the time it got to Walsall,  it was 5 minutes late.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on July 02, 2022, 01:09:02 PM
Quote from: Westy on June 21, 2022, 07:03:31 AMThe first X51 from Cannock was appropriately heavy, by the time it reached me in Leamore.

I think it picked up at every stop as well, so by the time it got to Walsall,  it was 5 minutes late.
X51 should be limited stop between Bloxwich and Walsall the section served enough by 31/32.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on July 02, 2022, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on July 02, 2022, 01:09:02 PMX51 should be limited stop between Bloxwich and Walsall the section served enough by 31/32.
I'm sure it's few and far between, but there's bound to be people wanting to travel from that section to Cannock. Perhaps having it pick up only towards Cannock, and set down only towards Walsall, would work?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 02, 2022, 02:25:04 PM
Quote from: DJ on July 02, 2022, 01:10:43 PMI'm sure it's few and far between, but there's bound to be people wanting to travel from that section to Cannock. Perhaps having it pick up only towards Cannock, and set down only towards Walsall, would work?

What about, for example, people wanting Bloxwich to Birmingham?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on July 02, 2022, 02:50:21 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 02, 2022, 02:25:04 PMWhat about, for example, people wanting Bloxwich to Birmingham?
Do what X51 Birmingham bound passengers do get off then get 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2022, 03:46:25 PM
QuoteX51 should be limited stop between Bloxwich and Walsall the section served enough by 31/32.
Definitely not, it would lose a lot of it's passengers who get on on that section to go to Birmingham 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on July 02, 2022, 10:14:47 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2022, 03:46:25 PMDefinitely not, it would lose a lot of it's passengers who get on on that section to go to Birmingham
Fair point, I completely forgot it ran through to Birmingham for a second!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on July 27, 2022, 04:11:07 PM
Do the hydrogens do any X51 workings, and if so which ones? Or are they strictly 51s only?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on July 27, 2022, 04:18:55 PM
They must be on the 51 or they will bear the wrath of Birmingham City Council.

No longer the case, see below.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2022, 04:51:54 PM
QuoteThey must be on the 51 or they will bear the wrath of Birmingham City Council.
No, can go on other routes once they are risk assessed now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 27, 2022, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 27, 2022, 04:51:54 PMNo, can go on other routes once they are risk assessed now
Any Walsall route?

If so, I'm pretty sure there's one route they won't go on, if you want them in one piece?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 27, 2022, 08:23:34 PM
QuoteAny Walsall route?

If so, I'm pretty sure there's one route they won't go on, if you want them in one piece?
I haven't said anything about any Walsall route.

why the stupid comment
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 27, 2022, 10:42:56 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 27, 2022, 08:23:34 PMI haven't said anything about any Walsall route.

why the stupid comment
With respect, it wasn't intended as a stupid comment.

You said they could go on other routes, once risked assessed.

Bearing in mind, the buses are based at Walsall, I took this to mean any Walsall route, not just the 51, as previously advised. 

I apologise if I have the wrong end of the stick, but that is how it came across. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on July 27, 2022, 10:43:55 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 27, 2022, 10:42:56 PMWith respect, it wasn't intended as a stupid comment.

You said they could go on other routes, once risked assessed.

Bearing in mind, the buses are based at Walsall, I took this to mean any Walsall route, not just the 51, as previously advised.

I apologise if I have the wrong end of the stick, but that is how it came across.
Obviously they wouldn't pass the risk assesment due to low bridges etc.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 27, 2022, 11:03:24 PM
Quote from: 2206 on July 27, 2022, 10:43:55 PMObviously they wouldn't pass the risk assesment due to low bridges etc.
They wouldn't go on the 29 either, if the locals start playing up again!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on August 25, 2022, 04:59:24 PM
The X51 seems to be carrying some right good loads to Cannock lately  came in about 4.20 full downstairs n two thirds full upstairs 👍
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on August 25, 2022, 05:34:24 PM
Quote from: Bob on August 25, 2022, 04:59:24 PMThe X51 seems to be carrying some right good loads to Cannock lately  came in about 4.20 full downstairs n two thirds full upstairs 👍
It was 2 weeks ago one morning coming from Bloxwich in to Walsall. Almost full and when I asked why 2 buses hadn't turned up before it due to shortage of drivers from what the driver told me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 25, 2022, 06:02:37 PM


Certainly helps when a 31 or 32 isn't about, as what happened tonight about 1610, when I got into Walsall!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BBS on August 31, 2022, 02:42:11 PM
QuoteWith respect, it wasn't intended as a stupid comment.

You said they could go on other routes, once risked assessed.

Bearing in mind, the buses are based at Walsall, I took this to mean any Walsall route, not just the 51, as previously advised.

I apologise if I have the wrong end of the stick, but that is how it came across.
Probably hydrogens will be on the common Birmingham routes 935,937, X51 etc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on September 05, 2022, 06:07:29 PM
Quote from: BBS on August 31, 2022, 02:42:11 PMProbably hydrogens will be on the common Birmingham routes 935,937, X51 etc
There is H1018 on the X51 had to from Walsall to brum not long ago 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2022, 06:38:49 PM
H1004 did the 06:55 935 from Walsall into Birmingham this morning
H1018 is currently on the 18:22 997 from City
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on September 08, 2022, 07:01:42 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 08, 2022, 05:25:14 PM6750 is on WAX15.
Its to small to fit on that route isnt it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on September 08, 2022, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 08, 2022, 07:01:42 PMIts to small to fit on that route isnt it
What do you mean by 'too small'? :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on September 08, 2022, 07:19:34 PM
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 08, 2022, 07:01:42 PMIts to small to fit on that route isnt it
Perry Barr use to use doubles on it most the time 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 08, 2022, 07:22:13 PM
QuoteWhat do you mean by 'too small'? :rolleyes:
How can a bus, with more seats than the regular vehicles be too small?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on September 09, 2022, 09:46:37 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 08, 2022, 07:22:13 PMHow can a bus, with more seats than the regular vehicles be too small?

Small for the route tight routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on September 09, 2022, 10:31:50 AM
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 09, 2022, 09:46:37 AMSmall for the route tight routes
The X15 usually uses Scania OmniLinks, which are full length single decks.

Double-decks are shorter in length.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 12, 2022, 07:12:01 AM
Are there any roadworks in the Cannock area at the moment?

Just wondering why that first X51 south seems to be around 10 minutes late currently!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 12, 2022, 09:13:00 AM
QuoteAre there any roadworks in the Cannock area at the moment?

Just wondering why that first X51 south seems to be around 10 minutes late currently!
Yes, X51 has been on diversion in Cannock for a few weeks, but when the M6 is closed I think the driver is doing well to be only 10 late
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 12, 2022, 05:51:29 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 12, 2022, 09:13:00 AMYes, X51 has been on diversion in Cannock for a few weeks, but when the M6 is closed I think the driver is doing well to be only 10 late
Nicely fills the 10 minutes gap when I miss the 31, & have to wait for a 32 otherwise!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: andyr on September 12, 2022, 09:21:32 PM
The temporary traffic lights on the A34 by Long Lane are causing delays to.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 13, 2022, 06:58:25 AM
It was only 5 mins late this morning,  according to the driver machine, so must have been lucky to a point?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 13, 2022, 10:51:31 PM
H1013 appears to still be out on the 51 this evening, making it the first time one has done a late night since they've entered service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on September 14, 2022, 08:32:17 PM
Looks like the 51S has been axed as of the start of this new school term...According to the KES website, Endeavour Coaches are now operating a replacement service between Walsall and the school.

https://kes.org.uk/parents/transport/
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 14, 2022, 08:39:40 PM
QuoteLooks like the 51S has been axed as of the start of this new school term...According to the KES website, Endeavour Coaches are now operating a replacement service between Walsall and the school.

https://kes.org.uk/parents/transport/
Endeavor driver doesn't seem to like some of the bus lanes, I have overtaken him both yesterday and today by using bus priority as it is meant to be used.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on September 15, 2022, 09:37:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 13, 2022, 06:58:25 AMIt was only 5 mins late this morning,  according to the driver machine, so must have been lucky to a point?
.....or was the Black Country equivalent of Max Verstappen......
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on September 19, 2022, 02:19:10 PM
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on September 19, 2022, 10:30:57 AM2135 and 2139 are on the 10 today usually operated by platinums on a Sunday service

Sundays and evening journeys on WA 10 will now be single deck due to Anti Social behaviour. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on September 19, 2022, 02:48:20 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on September 19, 2022, 02:19:10 PMSundays and evening journeys on WA 10 will now be single deck due to Anti Social behaviour.
Thanks for clarifying thought it had something to do with that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on September 19, 2022, 05:56:13 PM
Have the youths decided to play on the other side of the cemetery then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on September 19, 2022, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on September 19, 2022, 05:56:13 PMHave the youths decided to play on the other side of the cemetery then?
They still like to a little bit of a niggle here and there on the 29s and Surrounding areas. One of the factors of ASB on the 10 is the fact there is no proper terminus for the route as it loops along the A5 meaning drivers cant kick them off at The rising sun but in response could kick them off at brownhills high street but i understand why drivers dont interact with these youths in this day of age.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 27, 2022, 02:35:13 PM
H1002 out today, first time since January. That means all 20 are in circulation again
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on September 27, 2022, 03:51:04 PM
QuoteH1002 out today, first time since January. That means all 20 are in circulation again

When will the 51 be fully hydrogen bus operated? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GoldenSquid on September 27, 2022, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2022, 02:35:13 PMH1002 out today, first time since January. That means all 20 are in circulation again
How many are out a day at the moment? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BNH2004 on September 27, 2022, 09:42:46 PM
Quote from: GoldenSquid on September 27, 2022, 09:07:10 PMHow many are out a day at the moment?
3 a day at the moment, 4 at tops
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 30, 2022, 03:18:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2022, 02:35:13 PMH1002 out today, first time since January. That means all 20 are in circulation again
X51 is shocking today. No 14.42 to brum from Cannock no 15.12 from cannock so what a 90 min gap and thats if the next one bothers to turn up!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 30, 2022, 03:32:14 PM
In fact scrqtch that the 3.42 isnt running either! Appalling 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on September 30, 2022, 03:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 30, 2022, 03:32:14 PMIn fact scrqtch that the 3.42 isnt running either! Appalling
I had a look at that checker that's on the website.

Seemed to be a problem at various parts of the day with the Bloxwich Road services including the X51!

I finished work in Willenhall around 320pm.

(It's Friday & I'm not hanging round!)

Apart from the 529, none of my other options are departing till around 4pm, so I'd have half hour to kill otherwise.

Seems to be everytime I use the 529 on a  Friday afternoon,  when I get to Walsall,  I enter a sea of passengers crowding round the bus stop, while the Bloxwich Road services seem to disappear into a black hole!

Last Friday, the only one that turned up was an X51 & even that was roughly 15 mins late according to the drivers machine!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on September 30, 2022, 04:29:23 PM
It was horrendous, 3 old ladies ended up going and getting a taxi 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 02, 2022, 05:10:49 PM
This is annoying.

If things run to plan, 3302 will be caught by my sister from Wednesfield in a few mins back to Bloxwich.

That's twice she's got on certain Walsall vehicles without even trying, & they never appear at times or journeys I have to catch! :(
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on October 03, 2022, 07:53:28 PM
Ive heard Rumours earlier that some Walsall Routes will have a reduced frequency from the end of November due to driver shortages ive heard the 29 possibly be reduced to every 15 minutes but just like to get peoples opinions on this or get confirmation 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 03, 2022, 10:43:16 PM
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on October 03, 2022, 07:53:28 PMIve heard Rumours earlier that some Walsall Routes will have a reduced frequency from the end of November due to driver shortages ive heard the 29 possibly be reduced to every 15 minutes but just like to get peoples opinions on this or get confirmation
Surely it's only the 'frequent' routes that could be reduced further, like the 31 / 32, or does it's status as a partnership route protect it?

What about the 4 group for instance?

If Diamond stay on the route separately, maybe you could get away with reducing NX slightly.

Let's hope there would be enough double deckers to ensure the seating reduction isn't as bad.

Obviously some routes/duties would have to continue to be single deck, due to low bridges, but maybe the 'rule' that prevents Walsall double decks running into Bradford Place would need to be looked at, perhaps re-routing the 36 & 39 away from Bridgeman Street included?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 03, 2022, 10:54:24 PM
Some of the Coventry 48XX 49XX E400 could go to Walsall maybe to increase capacity?

What about the 77, is it used much it in the Erdington area. As the 77/77A together have a half hourly frequency.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 04, 2022, 07:05:32 AM
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2022, 10:54:24 PMSome of the Coventry 48XX 49XX E400 could go to Walsall maybe to increase capacity?

What about the 77, is it used much it in the Erdington area. As the 77/77A together have a half hourly frequency.

77/77a is a TfWm tender, so unless they say it can change, it won't!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on October 05, 2022, 08:53:24 AM
several drivers from westbrom garage have gone to walsall to help out with the driver shortages, the 3 hours a day travelling time pay every day has nothing to do with it, westbrom has drivers at central garage too on same deal to. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on October 05, 2022, 06:23:10 PM
Quote from: 2900 on October 05, 2022, 08:53:24 AMseveral drivers from westbrom garage have gone to walsall to help out with the driver shortages, the 3 hours a day travelling time pay every day has nothing to do with it, westbrom has drivers at central garage too on same deal to.
pensnett drivers at Walsall and Yw  wolves drivers at pn
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on October 05, 2022, 06:25:10 PM
It's "work at the other garage" week!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 05, 2022, 09:47:00 PM
Quote from: 2206 on October 03, 2022, 10:54:24 PMSome of the Coventry 48XX 49XX E400 could go to Walsall maybe to increase capacity?

What about the 77, is it used much it in the Erdington area. As the 77/77A together have a half hourly frequency.

Not possible for 77 to be double deck low trees pype Hayes.

77A low bridge park road sutton

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 05, 2022, 09:55:17 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on October 05, 2022, 09:47:00 PMNot possible for 77 to be double deck low trees pype Hayes.

77A low bridge park road sutton


77A could be fairly easily rerouted, without missing any stops I believe along Upper Clifton Road into Sutton.
I have seen Perry Barr Gemini on Clifton Road running dead before.
Doubt they actually need deckers though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 05, 2022, 10:29:34 PM
Low trees ISTR,  was one of the reasons for the Dudley service going single deck years ago.

Are Nx actively talking to the relevant local authority (Sandwell I think?) about this or not?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on October 06, 2022, 09:36:27 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 05, 2022, 10:29:34 PMLow trees ISTR,  was one of the reasons for the Dudley service going single deck years ago.

Are Nx actively talking to the relevant local authority (Sandwell I think?) about this or not?
I think it's powis Ave in tipton ( Sandwell)on the 11 has low trees , not sure of any others on the route , deckers would be so welcomed on them Dudley to Walsall services 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 11, 2022, 07:17:33 PM
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/bus-driver-shortage-leaving-fed-25236060

Not good is it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on October 11, 2022, 08:33:34 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 11, 2022, 07:17:33 PMhttps://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/bus-driver-shortage-leaving-fed-25236060

Not good is it?
For what it's worth, two buses (one 11 and one 11A) didn't turn up on my way home on Friday night. It's not great waiting for over an hour in the cold!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 11, 2022, 09:46:49 PM
Quote from: DJ on October 11, 2022, 08:33:34 PMFor what it's worth, two buses (one 11 and one 11A) didn't turn up on my way home on Friday night. It's not great waiting for over an hour in the cold!

As mentioned before, I used to catch that route a few years ago & had many issues with it.

I feel your pain.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on October 12, 2022, 11:26:37 AM
Quote from: Westy on October 11, 2022, 07:17:33 PMhttps://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/bus-driver-shortage-leaving-fed-25236060

Not good is it?
Never seen so many complaints on NXWM's Facebook page. Even complaints of late evening services not turning up / big gaps in service from an NX Group investor being posted on a share trading bulletin board. 
That's not going to do anything for passenger numbers & routes being commercially viable.... 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 12, 2022, 08:04:36 PM
Someone on Facebook reckons she's heard 2 drivers talking & they've mentioned strike action!

Only the Metro has mentioned strikes so far!

Presumably this is 'Chinese whispers'?

As I said to the poster concerned, 'We'll see"!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 12, 2022, 08:07:41 PM
QuoteSomeone on Facebook reckons she's heard 2 drivers talking & they've mentioned strike action!

Only the Metro has mentioned strikes so far!

Presumably this is 'Chinese whispers'?

As I said to the poster concerned, 'We'll see"!
Two drivers having a personal chat is news? I have chats with other staff and mention strike action, In sentences like "Have you seen xxx are on strike now"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 12, 2022, 09:44:24 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2022, 08:07:41 PMTwo drivers having a personal chat is news? I have chats with other staff and mention strike action, In sentences like "Have you seen xxx are on strike now"
Well, I didn't say I believed them though.

I'll wait for official news, if any.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 979 on October 13, 2022, 09:28:55 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-63215689.amp
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on October 18, 2022, 10:04:21 PM
QuoteSundays and evening journeys on WA 10 will now be single deck due to Anti Social behaviour.
Well i can see why 4125 was victim on the 16:55 journey from brownhills youths at the back smashed the windows on the top deck with the emergancy break glass hammer got into walsall with glass shatterd unsurprisingly this returned back to the garage when it dropped the youths off at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 18, 2022, 10:24:37 PM
Even the heritage buses ain't safe!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on October 18, 2022, 10:30:25 PM
QuoteEven the heritage buses ain't safe!
Surprisingly blakenall has behaved better than the brownhills lot
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on October 18, 2022, 10:37:58 PM
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on October 18, 2022, 10:30:25 PMSurprisingly blakenall has behaved better than the brownhills lot
A driver told me today he was on a 29 service last week and a house brick came flying through the window just missing him.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on October 18, 2022, 10:43:59 PM
QuoteA driver told me today he was on a 29 service last week and a house brick came flying through the window just missing him.
Ah yes i forgot about that incident wont take them long again to get them arrested then let out again after couple weeks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on October 19, 2022, 11:18:34 AM
This is random I know but I was watching a YouTube video a few days ago of a Scania on the 4H or 4M (can't remember which) and it had next stop announcements because on the video I heard it say "The next stop is Little London" whatever happened to the announcements in the Scania's and how come they don't have them now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 19, 2022, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: hlliwmai on October 19, 2022, 11:18:34 AMThis is random I know but I was watching a YouTube video a few days ago of a Scania on the 4H or 4M (can't remember which) and it had next stop announcements because on the video I heard it say "The next stop is Little London" whatever happened to the announcements in the Scania's and how come they don't have them now?
When the hangovers were updated in 2019 the announcements went. By that time there was a bit out of date on some stops, and the 4H only had announcements up till Halesowen.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: The Real 4778 on October 19, 2022, 07:28:04 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 19, 2022, 11:40:01 AMWhen the hangovers were updated in 2019 the announcements went. By that time there was a bit out of date on some stops, and the 4H only had announcements up till Halesowen.

New Year's Day?   :wink:

You've got to love autocorrect!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2022, 05:06:49 PM
Is there a problem with the Alumwell 36 today?

Someone on Facebook reckons there is.

Can it be confirmed or denied?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on October 20, 2022, 07:12:32 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 20, 2022, 05:06:49 PMIs there a problem with the Alumwell 36 today?

Someone on Facebook reckons there is.

Can it be confirmed or denied?
Yes I was going to ask that but I got sidetracked. Friend of mine had to catch 529 then walk 20 minutes to get home.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 20, 2022, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: PB50 on October 20, 2022, 07:12:32 PMYes I was going to ask that but I got sidetracked. Friend of mine had to catch 529 then walk 20 minutes to get home.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/414162682480975/permalink/1215646388999263/

For those who can access Facebook, here's the thread!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on October 20, 2022, 07:19:34 PM
https://bustimes.org/services/36-walsall-alumwell-circular/vehicles

Bustimes suggests that the something happened to 861 in the town centre at 17:00 and none of the services after that ran until Diamond took over for the evening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on October 20, 2022, 07:20:52 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 20, 2022, 07:18:20 PMhttps://www.facebook.com/groups/414162682480975/permalink/1215646388999263/

For those who can access Facebook, here's the thread!
Thanks, but it is a private group, posts are not publicly visible.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 20, 2022, 07:25:52 PM
QuoteIs there a problem with the Alumwell 36 today?

Someone on Facebook reckons there is.

Can it be confirmed or denied?
Up to when you posted this  [font="Open Sans", sans-serif]Not only did every single journey run, every single journey left Walsall within the allowance allowed by DVSA to be classed as 'on time' All listed in the public domain, and all available for anyone to check here  [/font][font="Open Sans", sans-serif]Vehicles – 36 - Walsall - Manor Hospital - Alumwell – bustimes.org[/font] (https://bustimes.org/services/36-walsall-alumwell-circular/vehicles?date=2022-10-20)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: DJ on October 25, 2022, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 11, 2022, 09:46:49 PMAs mentioned before, I used to catch that route a few years ago & had many issues with it.

I feel your pain.
It seemed to have improved a lot over recent years, until recently with what I presume is a shortage of drivers at WA causing trips to be missed.

I don't think the extension to Merry Hill that replaced part of the WN81 is doing it any favours, either, especially when there's heavy traffic at Merry Hill.

I've taken to walking a few minutes further and getting the WN82 up to Loxdale to connect with the Metro, as it seems a lot more reliable as of late.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on October 25, 2022, 11:55:16 PM
Someone posted about a Scania being on the 36 recently, and I saw it on Bustimes too. Thought these vehicles couldn't operate on there?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 26, 2022, 07:40:24 AM
Spare a thought for the driver of 2126 this morning. 

He was on time, but the previous bus on the Bloxwich Road route was 'missing ', however this didn't stop an entitled ####(insert your swear word there) moaning when he got on, firstly moaning that the driver didn't hear him, when he said £2(I was standing near the front & didn't hear him either!), then he started a rant about the bus being late(which it wasn't!), with a bit of abuse(non swear/non racial), being traded.

Look, we get there's problems (by the time I get in it'll be around 8am, so roughly half hour behind schedule (leave around 4pm!), especially at Walsall, but what can be done about it?

My sister is always moaning about the 9, to the point, she goes out for the bus a hour  before, but she works round it, like me & everyone else!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on October 26, 2022, 11:52:49 AM
Some passengers are well out of order. A bus missing on WA 31/32 at 8am would only be about maybe 10 minute wait.

The agro/complaints/abuse over missing buses to will only make the current drivers want to leave meaning a long time before the shortages will be over.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Danthebusman on October 26, 2022, 12:24:48 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on October 26, 2022, 11:52:49 AMSome passengers are well out of order. A bus missing on WA 31/32 at 8am would only be about maybe 10 minute wait.

The agro/complaints/abuse over missing buses to will only make the current drivers want to leave meaning a long time before the shortages will be over.
Exactly, just starts turning into a cycle really. Similar situation happened with a CV 6A I was on, passenger hopped on started complaining about the bus being really late (which again it wasn't, the bus before was just missing) but there's just no need since it's putting a lot more stress on the current drivers that are just trying to do their job, not their fault that other drivers are leaving and this will just make them want to leave as well.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 28, 2022, 02:12:05 PM
Again no show on the 14.12 X51 from Cannock, a 1hr gap and huge queue, fhis is happening a lot, it did the last time i caugbt it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on October 29, 2022, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: Bob on October 28, 2022, 02:12:05 PMAgain no show on the 14.12 X51 from Cannock, a 1hr gap and huge queue, this is happening a lot, it did the last time i caught it
Have you forgotten the whole bus industry is suffering from no end of driver shortages according to information I've heard Diamond are 29 drivers short due to the fact 14 drivers quit last week and 15 the week before so it's not just National Express having issues it's across the board and comments like yours don't help matters! 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on October 29, 2022, 01:48:15 PM
Quote from: hlliwmai on October 29, 2022, 01:45:07 PMHave you forgotten the whole bus industry is suffering from no end of driver shortages according to information I've heard Diamond are 29 drivers short due to the fact 14 drivers quit last week and 15 the week before so it's not just National Express having issues it's across the board and comments like yours don't help matters!  

Yea and buses literally not running doest help passengers. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on October 29, 2022, 02:17:07 PM
Unfortunately that's the way of the world at present 


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on November 14, 2022, 12:00:02 AM
Is there a reason WB operate a few of the evening peak WA11 services? They don't interwork with the WB45 at Bradford Place, nor any WB services at Dudley... is it to do with the driver shortage?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on November 14, 2022, 12:59:08 AM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on November 14, 2022, 12:00:02 AMIs there a reason WB operate a few of the evening peak WA11 services? They don't interwork with the WB45 at Bradford Place, nor any WB services at Dudley... is it to do with the driver shortage?
Probably just because Walsall are struggling with drivers and wb only do 1 board on 11
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rachvince53 on November 14, 2022, 07:50:11 AM
Just like WB do a few runs on the X8, it's to cover driver shortage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on November 14, 2022, 09:30:32 AM
Quote from: Rachvince53 on November 14, 2022, 07:50:11 AMJust like WB do a few runs on the X8, it's to cover driver shortage.
nothing to do with shortages WB has done the morning peak X8 for years 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 14, 2022, 09:44:15 PM
WB cover some peak time boards on schools former WA routes.

11S then a trip.on (PM) 11

705 (1 Bus) AM PM Peak
Guilty Village - Barr beacon

788 (AM) Walsall - Barr Beacon

703 (AM PM) St Thomas Moor - New Invention

881 AM (2 buses) PM 1 Bus
Palfry - Barr Beacon










Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 14, 2022, 09:47:39 PM
There's a post on Facebook referencing a change on the 31 / 32 on 27 November.

Link doesn't work.

Someone points this out to the Nx staff on Facebook, who swear blind it refers to the Remembrance Day services diversions.

Does anyone proof read the posts before posting & what is this change anyway?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on November 15, 2022, 07:39:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on November 14, 2022, 09:47:39 PMThere's a post on Facebook referencing a change on the 31 / 32 on 27 November.

Link doesn't work.

Someone points this out to the Nx staff on Facebook, who swear blind it refers to the Remembrance Day services diversions.

Does anyone proof read the posts before posting & what is this change anyway?

Timetable change:
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/changes-to-3132-40-timetables
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on November 15, 2022, 07:48:23 AM
Quote from: Stu on November 15, 2022, 07:39:14 AMTimetable change:
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/changes-to-3132-40-timetables
Looking at this can't see much difference on 31 and 32 but last 2 buses from Walsall are run by Diamond buses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on November 15, 2022, 09:22:18 AM
Quote from: PB50 on November 15, 2022, 07:48:23 AMLooking at this can't see much difference on 31 and 32 but last 2 buses from Walsall are run by Diamond buses.
31/32 reduced from every 4 minutes to every 5 minutes 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 15, 2022, 10:25:46 AM
Cheers all.

The first bus from Mossley is now 0445am I notice.

Think, for me, there's a slight change between 630am & 700am with the buses I catch changing to Diamond from Nx.

At least Nx's branding will match, while Diamond need some new branding. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 22, 2022, 02:53:18 PM
2125, has that been debranded as well, as per report on 2124?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 22, 2022, 05:11:21 PM
2124 & 2125 have lost 31 32 branding
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 22, 2022, 05:42:46 PM
Quote2124 & 2125 have lost 31 32 branding
and 2126
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on November 22, 2022, 06:01:09 PM
Quoteand 2126
New branding perhaps?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on November 22, 2022, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on November 22, 2022, 06:01:09 PMNew branding perhaps?
No, Pvr reduction
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 22, 2022, 06:16:36 PM
Seeing the Wolves 20xx are being repainted in grey, is it about time Walsall's 21xx are due for repaint too?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 22, 2022, 07:26:22 PM
QuoteSeeing the Wolves 20xx are being repainted in grey, is it about time Walsall's 21xx are due for repaint too?
No, only fully refurbished 4 years ago into that livery
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack6101 on November 26, 2022, 10:47:51 AM
Good to see a special someone driving the 997/X51 today (6739)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on November 26, 2022, 10:59:58 AM
Quote from: Jack6101 on November 26, 2022, 10:47:51 AMGood to see a special someone driving the 997/X51 today (6739)

@Tony? There again he don't drive in service 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 26, 2022, 11:36:01 AM
Quote@Tony? There again he don't drive in service
I do, and yes, I am having a day on the 997/934/X51 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: mesub on November 26, 2022, 09:09:10 PM
Is this a regular thing or is it due to the 10 point service improvement plan?

QuoteAll hands on deck. Everyone who can drive is driving. This includes our normally office-based colleagues who are trained to drive a bus; while we experience these issues they are out on the roads every day serving our customers.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 26, 2022, 11:29:11 PM
The 'ghosting' effect refered to in the 'Oddities' thread can also be seen on at least 2124 as well, as I spotted it this morning in Bloxwich.

Incidentally, bearing in mind 2124, 2125 & 2126 have been debranded from the 31 / 32, they will still appear on there anyway surely, even if the NX requirement has decreased.

What will be interesting, probably because of the parking of vehicles at Walsall depot, is how often the remaining branded vehicles will actually appear on the routes concerned?

Assuming there is enough double deckers available, couldn't 3 double deckers be branded instead, as certainly in the peaks, full buses do leave Walsall, which would help capacitywise?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on November 28, 2022, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: Westy on November 26, 2022, 11:29:11 PMThe 'ghosting' effect refered to in the 'Oddities' thread can also be seen on at least 2124 as well, as I spotted it this morning in Bloxwich.

Incidentally, bearing in mind 2124, 2125 & 2126 have been debranded from the 31 / 32, they will still appear on there anyway surely, even if the NX requirement has decreased.

What will be interesting, probably because of the parking of vehicles at Walsall depot, is how often the remaining branded vehicles will actually appear on the routes concerned?

Assuming there is enough double deckers available, couldn't 3 double deckers be branded instead, as certainly in the peaks, full buses do leave Walsall, which would help capacitywise?

Maybe 2124 - 2126 due to transfer.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 28, 2022, 05:39:44 PM
QuoteThe 'ghosting' effect refered to in the 'Oddities' thread can also be seen on at least 2124 as well, as I spotted it this morning in Bloxwich.

Incidentally, bearing in mind 2124, 2125 & 2126 have been debranded from the 31 / 32, they will still appear on there anyway surely, even if the NX requirement has decreased.

What will be interesting, probably because of the parking of vehicles at Walsall depot, is how often the remaining branded vehicles will actually appear on the routes concerned?

Assuming there is enough double deckers available, couldn't 3 double deckers be branded instead, as certainly in the peaks, full buses do leave Walsall, which would help capacitywise?
3 buses have just been debranded because of service revisions, so why on earth would you brand 3 more and have 3 too many again?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on December 04, 2022, 12:29:39 PM
6718 seems to be doing a lot of driving around to and from Bradford Place this morning not in service. Any ideas why?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on December 10, 2022, 05:57:42 PM
If anyone wants a trident/ Platinum on 77

1640 from Walsall 1725 from Sutton on Saturdays only is a 10 board. It is booked as Platinum but 4360 is doing the honours today.

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wn-4360?date=2022-12-10#journeys/350562007

4360 will then change to 41 1818 from Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 10, 2022, 06:06:07 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on December 10, 2022, 05:57:42 PMIf anyone wants a trident/ Platinum on 77

1640 from Walsall 1725 from Sutton on Saturdays only is a 10 board. It is booked as Platinum but 4360 is doing the honours today.

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wn-4360?date=2022-12-10#journeys/350562007

4360 will then change to 41 1818 from Walsall
Just looked on Bustimes.org.

Seems to be on diversion at the moment.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on December 17, 2022, 06:42:44 PM
X51 Walsall to cannocks an effing disgrace, 18.10 didnt run, 18.40 didnt run, leave people stranded in walsall why dont they??? DISGUSTING!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 22, 2022, 04:23:34 PM
Finally got a Streetdeck, as 3301 is now on a 32!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on December 22, 2022, 05:26:45 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 22, 2022, 04:23:34 PMFinally got a Streetdeck, as 3301 is now on a 32!
Yes saw that earlier on. Been on all day. Was one on yesterday morning for few hours too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on December 29, 2022, 06:04:33 PM
Is the 29 service on diversions after 6pm again because a friend of mine caught it home last night and the driver never said anything which meant my friend having to walk quite a distance.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on December 29, 2022, 06:15:24 PM
QuoteIs the 29 service on diversions after 6pm again because a friend of mine caught it home last night and the driver never said anything which meant my friend having to walk quite a distance.
Depends whether people start using the buses for target practice
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rachvince53 on December 29, 2022, 07:39:17 PM
Quote from: PB50 on December 29, 2022, 06:04:33 PMIs the 29 service on diversions after 6pm again because a friend of mine caught it home last night and the driver never said anything which meant my friend having to walk quite a distance.
At present it's on normal route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on December 29, 2022, 08:37:14 PM
Yesterday 4578 was the target on the 29 - 1645 from wabs.

All buses after was diverted for passenger and driver safety.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on December 30, 2022, 08:57:37 AM
Quote from: PB2938 on December 29, 2022, 08:37:14 PMYesterday 4578 was the target on the 29 - 1645 from wabs.

All buses after was diverted for passenger and driver safety.
Oh I see. Buses must have been on target day before too because they were on diversion. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on December 30, 2022, 05:21:59 PM
QuoteOh I see. Buses must have been on target day before too because they were on diversion.
They had a go at 4570 yesterday around 19:00  as the driver flagged 2135 down and told him to be careful but luckily 2135 didnt get attacked as it did all the remaining trips until 23:28 without diverting


EDIT : Now confirmed to be 4570 not 4567
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 30, 2022, 10:57:36 PM
How come the other thread isn't being used for the latest 29 issues?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BNH2004 on January 01, 2023, 03:55:32 PM
Looking at bustimes 6,9,35,41 and 77 all interwork on Sunday Service
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 01, 2023, 04:40:50 PM
Quote from: BNH2004 on January 01, 2023, 03:55:32 PMLooking at bustimes 6,9,35,41 and 77 all interwork on Sunday Service
While I understand why interworking happens, why on certain problem routes, it is allowed to happen.

Take the 9 for instance, it's practically a 2 hour round trip, so why for the sake of a few minutes, it has to go onto another route, while a bus from another route takes up the next 9 journey going back the other way, with the risk of either bus running late on route at some point.?

Surely keeping to timetable ought to be a priority, rather than sending a bus off on a different route to save money?

If all the routes concerned are reliable, then fair enough, but we all know of routes that regularly have problems, for some reason.

The only thing that springs to mind, is with the driver shortage, swopping the buses between routes allows certain areas to get a bus at some point in the day!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 01, 2023, 04:47:33 PM
QuoteWhile I understand why interworking happens, why on certain problem routes, it is allowed to happen.

Take the 9 for instance, it's practically a 2 hour round trip, so why for the sake of a few minutes, it has to go onto another route, while a bus from another route takes up the next 9 journey going back the other way, with the risk of either bus running late on route at some point.?

Surely keeping to timetable ought to be a priority, rather than sending a bus off on a different route to save money?

If all the routes concerned are reliable, then fair enough, but we all know of routes that regularly have problems, for some reason.

The only thing that springs to mind, is with the driver shortage, swopping the buses between routes allows certain areas to get a bus at some point in the day!
If the interworking didn't happen the cost of the extra bus would put the route into loss making and you wouldn't have a service at all
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on January 01, 2023, 05:17:43 PM
Quote from: BNH2004 on January 01, 2023, 03:55:32 PMLooking at bustimes 6,9,35,41 and 77 all interwork on Sunday Service
The 9 by itself can suffer serious delays by Bentley Bridge affecting reliability then the bus cant catch up time . This has happened in the past.

When the 9 comes in at 1103 then switches to a 35 for 1115 departure it stands a better chance of catching up time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on January 01, 2023, 10:10:15 PM
To be fair, sometimes what may seem illogical interworking makes sense, similar to when Arriva interworked the 229 with the 545, the 545 with the 82 and the 82 with the 208 back in the Wednesfield days.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 01, 2023, 10:43:38 PM
Quote from: BNH2004 on January 01, 2023, 03:55:32 PMLooking at bustimes 6,9,35,41 and 77 all interwork on Sunday Service
The 37 used to interact with the 41 on a Sunday. Wonder what that is interacting with. Is the 41 going to carry on interacting with the 8 service during the week?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on January 02, 2023, 08:07:17 AM
Quote from: PB50 on January 01, 2023, 10:43:38 PMThe 37 used to interact with the 41 on a Sunday. Wonder what that is interacting with. Is the 41 going to carry on interacting with the 8 service during the week?
The 41 works with the 37 late journeys only.

During sunday the 37 interworks with a new extra service 34E Walsall - Darlaston.

8/41 still the same Mon sat

Only the 8 and 10 on sunday are on there own boards on sunday.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on January 04, 2023, 04:42:42 PM
Do WA still operate the X15? New timetable on TFWM said operated by PB but 2113 is tracking on there at the moment?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rachvince53 on January 04, 2023, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on January 04, 2023, 04:42:42 PMDo WA still operate the X15? New timetable on TFWM said operated by PB but 2113 is tracking on there at the moment?
The TfWM info is wrong, the X15 is still a Walsall route. Unfortunately the info TfWM give on which garage operates which route isn't always correct. For instance despite DY 7 being a Wolves operation for several months until this month, they insisted that Pensnett operated it throughout. This is understandable when only one journey is operated by a different garage but ought to be accurate where the whole service is concerned. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on January 04, 2023, 11:19:47 PM
Ah ok, thanks for that
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 17, 2023, 06:10:05 PM
Noting mention of 2111 on the 39, I spotted an Eclipse 2 on the 37 around 4pm coming into Willenhall. 

Looking at Bustimes.org, there's currently 2116 & 2142 on there!

I normally see Scanias on there!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 17, 2023, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 17, 2023, 06:10:05 PMNoting mention of 2111 on the 39, I spotted an Eclipse 2 on the 37 around 4pm coming into Willenhall.

Looking at Bustimes.org, there's currently 2116 & 2142 on there!

I normally see Scanias on there!
I've noticed eclipse 2 buses working on the 37 recently. Plus they using a lot of single deckers on peak time routes like 51,X51,934/5 and 997 doing a few trips only.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on January 19, 2023, 04:18:38 PM
Long term out of use 859 out on 8/9 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on January 19, 2023, 05:04:54 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on January 19, 2023, 04:18:38 PMLong term withdrawn 859 out on 8/9 today
Withdrawn????
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 24, 2023, 11:39:39 AM
Does anyone know if the X51 outbound to Brum is still stopping at the stop by Wickes in Cannock ( the one just before stop opposite rail stn) while the roadworks are going on? Asking in advance as will be using it Sat. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 08, 2023, 07:00:37 AM
Staff bus still out at 645am this morning? Spotted on Bloxwich Road. 

(Unless going onto another route & display not changed?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 08, 2023, 01:39:49 PM
Platinum 6749 currently out following the 4H route in Hasbury driver training
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on February 08, 2023, 01:41:50 PM
Quote from: winston on February 08, 2023, 01:39:49 PMPlatinum 6749 currently out following the 4H route in Hasbury driver training
Think they are trying to bring decker backs on 4s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 08, 2023, 02:14:18 PM
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on February 08, 2023, 01:41:50 PMThink they are trying to bring decker backs on 4s
No. NX will not use double deckers under Sandwell & Dudley Station bridge with the current signage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 08, 2023, 08:29:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 08, 2023, 02:14:18 PMNo. NX will not use double deckers under Sandwell & Dudley Station bridge with the current signage
What was it over here for then?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 08, 2023, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on February 08, 2023, 08:29:31 PMWhat was it over here for then?
The garage driving Instructor decided to go over there, what's the problem.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 08, 2023, 09:09:20 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 08, 2023, 02:14:18 PMNo. NX will not use double deckers under Sandwell & Dudley Station bridge with the current signage
Has the bridge signage been changed recently? 

During Covid April / May 2020, Walsall were using Platinums on the 4H regularly
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 08, 2023, 09:12:19 PM
Quote from: winston on February 08, 2023, 09:09:20 PMHas the bridge signage been changed recently?

During Covid April / May 2020, Walsall were using Platinums on the 4H regularly
If you look at old streetview of that location changed from 14' 6" September 2020 to 13' 3" April 2021 onwards. And they aren't going to send the platinums under a 13' 3" bridge.
West Bromwich double decks running dead to/from Oldbury likely take a alternative route  West Bromwich Street/Oldbury Road.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on February 08, 2023, 09:53:32 PM
Shame as its just the sinage that has changed, a platinum could technically fit but no company would risk it for obvious reasons 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on February 08, 2023, 11:48:31 PM
Has the bridge sunk into the ground or something? That's over an entire foot? Surely the buses were not skimming the bridge before????
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on February 09, 2023, 12:22:57 AM
QuoteHas the bridge sunk into the ground or something? That's over an entire foot? Surely the buses were not skimming the bridge before????
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/black-country/new-height-restriction-sandwell-bridge-19344535

Quote[font="Open Sans", sans-serif]It's hoped the new limit - which will be advertised with signage on the bridge and its approaches - will reduce the number of tall vehicles unsuccessfully driving underneath.[/font]
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 09, 2023, 05:06:03 AM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on February 08, 2023, 11:48:31 PMHas the bridge sunk into the ground or something? That's over an entire foot? Surely the buses were not skimming the bridge before????
It might be that the sign on the bridge used to be a red triangle which is advisory but now it's a red circle which is an order.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 09, 2023, 08:48:51 AM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 09, 2023, 05:06:03 AMIt might be that the sign on the bridge used to be a red triangle which is advisory but now it's a red circle which is an order.
The reason behind it is the bridge is in a dip and as HGVs have got longer although the front of the trailer was low enough to go under because the rear was higher before the dip the middle of the trailer was what was catching the bridge.

Sandwell Council realised this problem didn't affect buses so when the new traffic order was applied for they excluded buses from it so legally any bus can go under that bridge. The problem is there is no recognised roadsign that applies a height to HGVs but not buses so there is nothing at the bridge to say buses can go under.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stevo on February 09, 2023, 08:54:37 AM
I remember when the Ailsas on Oldbury used the bridge. It was slightly unnerving to be riding downstairs and see the bus's height given as 14' 9" (or thereabouts) when passing under a bridge clearly marked 14' 6"!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on February 09, 2023, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2023, 08:48:51 AMThe reason behind it is the bridge is in a dip and as HGVs have got longer although the front of the trailer was low enough to go under because the rear was higher before the dip the middle of the trailer was what was catching the bridge.

Sandwell Council realised this problem didn't affect buses so when the new traffic order was applied for they excluded buses from it so legally any bus can go under that bridge. The problem is there is no recognised roadsign that applies a height to HGVs but not buses so there is nothing at the bridge to say buses can go under.
Are they not allowed to use the sign, and then put an "except buses" on it, and have a separate sign for the bus, or do the regulations not allow for that usage?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 09, 2023, 03:29:00 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on February 09, 2023, 02:58:51 PMAre they not allowed to use the sign, and then put an "except buses" on it, and have a separate sign for the bus, or do the regulations not allow for that usage?
Regulations currently don't allow that, we have asked Sandwell Council if there was anything possible at all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on February 09, 2023, 06:18:06 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 09, 2023, 03:29:00 PMRegulations currently don't allow that, we have asked Sandwell Council if there was anything possible at all.

It's highly unlikely the DfT would accept that because the public would not understand or accept a sign which is a height restriction, with exemptions for certain classes of vehicle - this would likely encourage non compliance for HGVs if they think they can get through. This is different from environmental and structural weight restrictions which often have excemptions for PCVs and agricultural vehicles (structural weight restrictions are often in minor roads in rural areas).

There is a technical process for identifying and setting height restriction (both mandatory and advisory (latter for arched bridges) for low bridges (which includes allowing for a margin for error). The mandatory signs (intended for non arched bridges) can be used without a TRO and are subject to endorsement of driving licence and totting up when enforced. The usual reason for changes to the height restriction values are caused by resurfacing of the road - it seems extraordinary that the restriction height is set so much lower than previously - I suppose we have to presume this has been surveyed correctly etc.

That lower height will catch a lot of drivers of HGVs out.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on February 10, 2023, 06:16:35 AM
Sandwell & Dudley train bridge oh what joy that is, so many times since the signage change i,ve been caught out running private to Oldbury/Blackheath then having to stop at the Railway inn pub and turn around great fun in peak traffic, i now leave garage avoiding the hateful BROMFORD  lane all together, to West Brom i use west bromwich street avoiding that corner. I still see HGV vehicle still go under that bridge.
Since Monday in Oldbury road works have started impacting on traffic quite badly the 4s could do with double deckers now
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rachvince53 on February 10, 2023, 10:40:55 AM
I know it's fine but the other bridge which unnerves me is the Broad Street bridge under the railway in Wolverhampton.  Its the contrast of riding over the canal bridge and then the sharp dip to get under the railway!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on February 16, 2023, 05:00:50 PM
Anyone know why 29 allocation now is mostly e200s. It can barely cope on PM runs as they always leave passengers to wait for the next one until around 5pm. Now AM its not as bad as from what i can recall there is 2 Double deckers which then go off eithier on school runs or onto different route, how come this is not the case on the afternoon are there no spare double deckers in the afternoon due to school runs or PM peaks in birmingham. Surely, they could at least make the 29 back to full-size single decker



Just like to point out im sure there is a valid reason to this im not having a pop at the garage itself but as a local who uses this route daily its just an observation and i think is a viable question to ask
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 16, 2023, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on February 16, 2023, 05:00:50 PMAnyone know why 29 allocation now is mostly e200s. It can barely cope on PM runs as they always leave passengers to wait for the next one until around 5pm. Now AM its not as bad as from what i can recall there is 2 Double deckers which then go off eithier on school runs or onto different route, how come this is not the case on the afternoon are there no spare double deckers in the afternoon due to school runs or PM peaks in birmingham. Surely, they could at least make the 29 back to full-size single decker



Just like to point out im sure there is a valid reason to this im not having a pop at the garage itself but as a local who uses this route daily its just an observation and i think is a viable question to ask
It's a shame the Nx share of the 31/32 can't be double deckers,in the evening peaks as when I catch them,  they get rammed pretty quickly.

You have to hope an X51 turns up, to relieve the pressure (but not much!).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on February 16, 2023, 09:47:39 PM
QuoteIt's a shame the Nx share of the 31/32 can't be double deckers,in the evening peaks as when I catch them, they get rammed pretty quickly.
QuoteYou have to hope an X51 turns up, to relieve the pressure (but not much!).

With The 29 wouldnt be so bad if 1 double decker would be on like we had before peak board at 3pm finished at 19:30 but i think that god took off due to ASB is the mostly the reasons the 29s have gone to mostly e200s now instead of full size single deckers
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on February 17, 2023, 12:49:28 PM
Looks like 4125 was being used as a training bus this morning when I saw it coming down Ablewell St heading towards town.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on February 17, 2023, 04:10:09 PM
Quote from: PB50 on February 17, 2023, 12:49:28 PMLooks like 4125 was being used as a training bus this morning when I saw it coming down Ablewell St heading towards town.


Yes the training school use service buses for Service drivers CPC training. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on February 17, 2023, 04:11:45 PM
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on February 16, 2023, 05:00:50 PMAnyone know why 29 allocation now is mostly e200s. It can barely cope on PM runs as they always leave passengers to wait for the next one until around 5pm. Now AM its not as bad as from what i can recall there is 2 Double deckers which then go off eithier on school runs or onto different route, how come this is not the case on the afternoon are there no spare double deckers in the afternoon due to school runs or PM peaks in birmingham. Surely, they could at least make the 29 back to full-size single decker



Just like to point out im sure there is a valid reason to this im not having a pop at the garage itself but as a local who uses this route daily its just an observation and i think is a viable question to ask

Just guessing so can be easily swapped for 19 36 77A if an E200 breaks down on them routes.

The 77 could do with E200 and the 29 has B7RLE  from there. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 17, 2023, 07:31:49 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on February 17, 2023, 04:10:09 PMYes the training school use service buses for Service drivers CPC training.
It was on the 159 St Francis Of Assisi service this afternoon,  as I saw it in Bloxwich!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on February 18, 2023, 03:07:42 PM
I've just seen 1432 training bus coming along Bridge St quite quickly. Surely they wasn't training a driver at that speed 🤣🤣
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 18, 2023, 04:01:39 PM
Quote from: PB50 on February 18, 2023, 03:07:42 PMI've just seen 1432 training bus coming along Bridge St quite quickly. Surely they wasn't training a driver at that speed 🤣🤣
The vehicle is privately owned
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on February 18, 2023, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 18, 2023, 04:01:39 PMThe vehicle is privately owned
Oh I see. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 24, 2023, 06:06:46 PM
Clanger dropped by the 2143 driver on the 9 this evening, according to my sister,  as he accidentally turned into Pooles Lane, thinking he was a 41!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on March 17, 2023, 01:11:45 PM
Is there an issue with the X51? 1m12 hasnt turmed up, nothing cannock bound showing on bustimes apart from 1 red e400 headed for cannock at perry barr. Would there setiously be a 90 min plus gap?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 17, 2023, 02:06:08 PM
Quote from: Bob on March 17, 2023, 01:11:45 PMIs there an issue with the X51? 1m12 hasnt turmed up, nothing cannock bound showing on bustimes apart from 1 red e400 headed for cannock at perry barr. Would there setiously be a 90 min plus gap?
There was a omnilink being hitched up in Birmingham about 10:30 having been on the 997
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on March 30, 2023, 12:04:28 PM
Just seen ex Coventry bus 4774 with about 5 bus drivers on it going past Walsall bus station obviously heading up to Walsall depot.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: CL on April 05, 2023, 10:58:38 AM
H1001 has returned on site
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James1987 on April 14, 2023, 04:59:14 PM
Just a question regarding the 6 02 tridents that are Walsall based. Are these vehicles euro 6 compliant? Or will they be retired before May in a few weeks time or can we expect to see them well into the summer.

I'd like to get a ride or two on them before they retire!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 14, 2023, 05:25:20 PM
Quote from: James1987 on April 14, 2023, 04:59:14 PMJust a question regarding the 6 02 tridents that are Walsall based. Are these vehicles euro 6 compliant? Or will they be retired before May in a few weeks time or can we expect to see them well into the summer.

I'd like to get a ride or two on them before they retire!
They're not Euro 6, but won't be retiring before May
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 17, 2023, 12:46:04 AM
Sorry for the very late question, and I couldn't find any conversation about this, but why did so many of WA's E400s move to PB? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on April 17, 2023, 05:59:18 AM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 17, 2023, 12:46:04 AMSorry for the very late question, and I couldn't find any conversation about this, but why did so many of WA's E400s move to PB?
Wasn't it because the 14 was becoming decker or because Walsall now had hydrogen buses for 51 so didn't need as many 48s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GoldenSquid on April 17, 2023, 07:27:09 AM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 17, 2023, 12:46:04 AMSorry for the very late question, and I couldn't find any conversation about this, but why did so many of WA's E400s move to PB?
I think it was so the 14 could have euro 6 buses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 17, 2023, 10:38:20 AM
Quote from: GoldenSquid on April 17, 2023, 07:27:09 AMI think it was so the 14 could have euro 6 buses.
The 14 already had euro 6 buses. All the 44XX Gemini at PB were euro 6 and also the 14 has been double decker operated for a very long time.

Probably was just that those 48XX were surplus to requirement at WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 17, 2023, 04:21:45 PM

Quote from: GoldenSquid on April 17, 2023, 07:27:09 AMI think it was so the 14 could have euro 6 buses.
But i looked on bustimes today and literally none of ex-WA's 48XX were doing the 14. They were all on other routes. There must be a different reason
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 17, 2023, 04:49:57 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 17, 2023, 04:21:45 PMBut i looked on bustimes today and literally none of ex-WA's 48XX were doing the 14. They were all on other routes. There must be a different reason
They're used on any Perry Barr double decker route. Like most deckers at Perry Barr are.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 17, 2023, 06:27:44 PM
Quote from: 2206 on April 17, 2023, 04:49:57 PMThey're used on any Perry Barr double decker route. Like most deckers at Perry Barr are.
Well if you can read, you'd see that i quoted from an above post which said the 48XX were operating the 14 from PB.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 17, 2023, 06:44:37 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 17, 2023, 06:27:44 PMWell if you can read, you'd see that i quoted from an above post which said the 48XX were operating the 14 from PB.
Yes I can read. And you'll find they do operate on the 14 yes. PB double decker on a PB double deck route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on April 17, 2023, 09:17:17 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 17, 2023, 12:46:04 AMSorry for the very late question, and I couldn't find any conversation about this, but why did so many of WA's E400s move to PB?
So PB Geminis could transfer elsewhere 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on April 17, 2023, 09:44:38 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on April 17, 2023, 09:17:17 PMSo PB Geminis could transfer elsewhere
No because PB doesn't have any Geminis !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on April 17, 2023, 11:43:13 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on April 17, 2023, 09:44:38 PMNo because PB doesn't have any Geminis !
They did and that's why the E400's moved in to displace them to AG and WB?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: EK40 on April 18, 2023, 08:35:07 AM
It's probably just so that city routes use newer buses considering that pretty much all of pbs dd routes go into the city (i dont even think they have any routes that arent city routes in general other than the 28) while WB and AG can just throw them on other routes 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on April 18, 2023, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on April 17, 2023, 09:44:38 PMNo because PB doesn't have any Geminis !
They did for many years, the 61 plates from Walsall replaced them 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 20, 2023, 12:36:01 PM
Would anyone be able to tell me where i can get the 937 in Bham City Centre now? Have to get it Monday, does it still go from Dale End?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 20, 2023, 12:44:02 PM
Quote from: Bob on April 20, 2023, 12:36:01 PMWould anyone be able to tell me where i can get the 937 in Bham City Centre now? Have to get it Monday, does it still go from Dale End?
Yes it does.
https://bustimes.org/stops/43000206701
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on April 20, 2023, 09:45:35 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on April 18, 2023, 10:22:08 PMThey did for many years, the 61 plates from Walsall replaced them
2 reasons the Geminis left PB 

1. To replace alx400 at AG and WB.
2. New PB opened in December 2022 fewer vechile types less spare parts..

WA sent 4854 - 4862 to release Geminis to AG and WB.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 23, 2023, 11:55:43 PM
Just found out 4573 did the X51 to birmingham a couple days ago. Quite surprising as i havent seen an ALX other than 4125 operate on the X51 in quite a while!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on April 24, 2023, 08:12:24 AM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 23, 2023, 11:55:43 PMJust found out 4573 did the X51 to birmingham a couple days ago. Quite surprising as i havent seen an ALX other than 4125 operate on the X51 in quite a while!
It's a 6 board that switches to a X51 at 1615 wabs. There's also another 6 board turns to a 51 for 1539 walsall bus station departure.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James1987 on April 24, 2023, 09:48:37 AM
Speaking of 4125, it was nice to see it out and about this morning heading into Birmingham on the 935.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on April 24, 2023, 01:43:03 PM
Just seen a Coventry electric one heading to the depot but didn't catch the number of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 24, 2023, 01:50:13 PM
Quote from: PB50 on April 24, 2023, 01:43:03 PMJust seen a Coventry electric one heading to the depot but didn't catch the number of it.
Coventry Electric went past 4618 on its way out of the City Centre and up James Watt Queensway to. E104 I think it might have been.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 24, 2023, 02:53:41 PM
Quote from: 2206 on April 24, 2023, 01:50:13 PMCoventry Electric went past 4618 on its way out of the City Centre and up James Watt Queensway to. E104 I think it might have been.
Yes, just taken E104 to Walsall to wait for Coventry to be able to accept it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on April 24, 2023, 04:45:15 PM
If anyone wants a  double deck 77 mainly Trident operated journey.

Mon to Fri 701 board

1630 Wabs and 1725 from Sutton

Sat 10 board

1740 wabs
1825 from sutton
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 24, 2023, 10:02:33 PM
Quote from: PB2938 on April 24, 2023, 08:12:24 AMIt's a 6 board that switches to a X51 at 1615 wabs. There's also another 6 board turns to a 51 for 1539 walsall bus station departure.


What do you mean by "6 board"
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on April 24, 2023, 10:53:11 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 24, 2023, 10:02:33 PMWhat do you mean by "6 board"
Apparently the service runs on the 6 service to Sutton Coldfield until mid afternoon then transfers on to a Birmingham route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bartosz on April 24, 2023, 11:50:25 PM
Quote from: PB50 on April 24, 2023, 10:53:11 PMApparently the service runs on the 6 service to Sutton Coldfield until mid afternoon then transfers on to a Birmingham route.
But today it didn't.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on April 24, 2023, 11:51:55 PM
Quote from: PB50 on April 24, 2023, 10:53:11 PMApparently the service runs on the 6 service to Sutton Coldfield until mid afternoon then transfers on to a Birmingham route.
Dont think ive seen those buses transfer onto a birmingham route every day.. more like once in a while
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on April 25, 2023, 12:21:38 AM
Quote from: Bartosz on April 24, 2023, 11:50:25 PMBut today it didn't.
4318 was probably swapped off as its non CAZ compliant.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wn-4318?date=2023-04-24#
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on April 25, 2023, 12:57:58 AM
Quote from: Bartosz on April 24, 2023, 11:50:25 PMBut today it didn't.

It was 4318. Looking at bustimes.org the bus got changed to 4869 before going onto the X51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB2938 on April 25, 2023, 08:11:23 PM
Today 4334 WA 6 board switching to x51 937

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wa-4334?date=2023-04-25#journeys/418278647

4737 on a WA 6 board which switches to a 51

https://bustimes.org/vehicles/tnxb-wa-4737?date=2023-04-25
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2023, 07:23:01 PM
Why do none of the vehicles on the 8 (Walsall- Lichfield) show on bustimes?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 29, 2023, 10:05:09 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2023, 07:23:01 PMWhy do none of the vehicles on the 8 (Walsall- Lichfield) show on bustimes?
Tony said there was a problem on both the 8 & 9, after the recent timetable change.

(I guess this is not affecting the interworking with other routes?)

Any news @Tony 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on May 01, 2023, 08:50:31 AM
Quick question regarding a few of Walsall's MMCs. Why is it that SN65 ZBX is 6758, SN65 ZBW is 6757 and SN65 ZBY is 6756. Is there any particular reason for the strange ordering?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on May 05, 2023, 08:35:23 PM

Has anyone got an answer for this?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 05, 2023, 08:45:59 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on May 05, 2023, 08:35:23 PMHas anyone got an answer for this?
Because those are the registrations the DVSA allocated
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on May 06, 2023, 07:13:23 PM
Issues with X51? 1852 dudnt run from bloxwich and doesnt look like 1922 is either!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 08, 2023, 07:36:21 PM
When and why are 4734-4737 leaving Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 08, 2023, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 08, 2023, 07:36:21 PMWhen and why are 4734-4737 leaving Walsall?
When they are not needed there.
Because they are not needed there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 08, 2023, 10:51:28 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 08, 2023, 07:47:31 PMWhen they are not needed there.
Because they are not needed there
Really helpful
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 08, 2023, 10:56:47 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 08, 2023, 10:51:28 PMReally helpful
It's quite easy to understand, when they are made surplus at Walsall they will leave!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James1987 on June 08, 2023, 11:42:45 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 08, 2023, 07:36:21 PMWhen and why are 4734-4737 (tel:4734-4737) leaving Walsall?

Just out of interest what makes you say they are leaving anytime soon?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 09, 2023, 07:01:01 AM
Quote from: James1987 on June 08, 2023, 11:42:45 PMJust out of interest what makes you say they are leaving anytime soon?

I saw on a YouTube video that they will be leaving Walsall soon, so I just came here to check if it was true and if there are any more details about it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on June 09, 2023, 07:35:47 AM
Quote from: Tony on June 08, 2023, 07:47:31 PMWhen they are not needed there.
Because they are not needed there
What are Walsall garage having in place of these buses when they leave?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on June 09, 2023, 07:51:21 AM
Thete are no plans for them to leave that rumour has been going around since the hydrogens came it's all just hear say. Even if they were to leave Tony will never disclose any transfers before they Happen. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 09, 2023, 05:58:03 PM
Would've thought they would replace Walsall's remaining 43xx Tridents at least internally, instead of shipping them off elsewhere?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 09, 2023, 06:53:16 PM
Quote from: cris 99 on June 09, 2023, 07:51:21 AMThete are no plans for them to leave that rumour has been going around since the hydrogens came it's all just hear say. Even if they were to leave Tony will never disclose any transfers before they Happen.
Thank you, this is the answer I was looking for.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on June 16, 2023, 09:14:49 AM
6732 just gone past me in Ablewell St not in service with his hazard warning lights on doing a steady 10mph so obviously he can't go any faster than that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Danthebusman on June 16, 2023, 02:27:08 PM
Quote from: PB50 on June 16, 2023, 09:14:49 AM6732 just gone past me in Ablewell St not in service with his hazard warning lights on doing a steady 10mph so obviously he can't go any faster than that.
limp mode, a lot of buses struggling with the heat already and the worst is yet to come
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on June 17, 2023, 03:39:47 PM
What are the current statuses of these 3 heritage buses  119L; 3035; 3997 ?

They were in paint a few weeks ago, according to Tony's list, but don't appear to be on recent lists.

I'm guessing more internal / mechanical work is being done, so they'll be a long time before they start appearing in public.

Are they normally garaged at Walsall?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 24, 2023, 06:34:37 PM
Was on 4735 a couple days ago and was sitting on the bottom deck back row and the seat was EXTREMELY hot, to the point where it was very uncomfortable. The other passenger also on the back row felt the same. Maybe someone should take a look at it or perhaps fix anything if there's a problem
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 24, 2023, 07:02:19 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 24, 2023, 06:34:37 PMWas on 4735 a couple days ago and was sitting on the bottom deck back row and the seat was EXTREMELY hot, to the point where it was very uncomfortable. The other passenger also on the back row felt the same. Maybe someone should take a look at it or perhaps fix anything if there's a problem
Those seats on the early E400's always do get very hot. It's the summer and you're sitting on the engine?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 24, 2023, 08:26:29 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 24, 2023, 07:02:19 PMThose seats on the early E400's always do get very hot. It's the summer and you're sitting on the engine?
Fair enough. However I've been on those early E400s many times and it was never as hot as that day! But never mind. Also another question, if the buses are supposed to be named after females, why is it's name Thomas Henry davis?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Danthebusman on June 24, 2023, 09:09:53 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 24, 2023, 08:26:29 PMFair enough. However I've been on those early E400s many times and it was never as hot as that day! But never mind. Also another question, if the buses are supposed to be named after females, why is it's name Thomas Henry davis?
doesn't mean all the names on the buses have to be women's names. 2154 at CV is named Sean 'Cov' Murphy for example
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on June 27, 2023, 07:51:17 AM
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 24, 2023, 09:09:53 PMdoesn't mean all the names on the buses have to be women's names. 2154 at CV is named Sean 'Cov' Murphy for example
Ah ok I thought that all buses were women's names. My apologies 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on July 06, 2023, 08:13:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 06, 2023, 07:00:15 AMNever seen an E200 on Wa 41 AFAIK.

856 just spotted in Walsall Bus Station.
That will be interacting with the 8 service. You get one occasionally on this.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on July 15, 2023, 09:53:04 AM
I split off the posts about ticket changes into the existing topic on the same subject:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=6490.0
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2023, 09:27:36 AM
Driver on 1851 is leaving timing points 3-4 mins early...

The guys taking the piss must be a timing issue on his machine or just a poor driver
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 22, 2023, 10:16:22 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2023, 09:27:36 AMDriver on 1851 is leaving timing points 3-4 mins early...

The guys taking the piss must be a timing issue on his machine or just a poor driver
Are you travelling on it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 22, 2023, 10:16:22 AMAre you travelling on it?
Yes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on July 23, 2023, 03:57:51 PM
I take it now that more hydrogen buses are being used then tridents are going to be going soon from Walsall depot?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 23, 2023, 05:02:49 PM
Quote from: PB50 on July 23, 2023, 03:57:51 PMI take it now that more hydrogen buses are being used then tridents are going to be going soon from Walsall depot?
Some will stay as cover and for possible frequency increase in September
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James1987 on July 23, 2023, 06:21:26 PM
Great to see some of the hydrogen buses out today (Sunday) and on some of the different Walsall-Birmingham routes.

Is this a one off? Or has the go ahead now been given to get more of them on the road and different routes etc.
(I know it was mentioned a few weeks ago, but wasn't 100% completely confirmed).


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on July 23, 2023, 06:24:05 PM
Quote from: James1987 on July 23, 2023, 06:21:26 PMGreat to see some of the hydrogen buses out today (Sunday) and on some of the different Walsall-Birmingham routes.

Is this a one off? Or has the go ahead now been given to get more of them on the road and different routes etc.
(I know it was mentioned a few weeks ago, but wasn't 100% completely confirmed).



See Tony's reply here:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=315561
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: James1987 on July 23, 2023, 06:29:04 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 23, 2023, 06:24:05 PMSee Tony's reply here:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=315561

Whops...Missed that post...Thank you 👍
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 24, 2023, 07:15:59 AM
Hmm.

Double deckers on the 31 & 32.

Must be school holidays!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on July 25, 2023, 08:00:05 AM
Quote from: Westy on July 24, 2023, 07:15:59 AMHmm.

Double deckers on the 31 & 32.

Must be school holidays!
3305 on the 31/32 today which has really surprised me seeing a street deck on there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 25, 2023, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: PB50 on July 25, 2023, 08:00:05 AM3305 on the 31/32 today which has really surprised me seeing a street deck on there.
Must admit the journey I got this morning around half 6 was a single decker!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on July 25, 2023, 01:18:39 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 25, 2023, 01:13:33 PMMust admit the journey I got this morning around half 6 was a single decker!
3303 also on 31/32 routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 25, 2023, 04:34:46 PM
Quote from: PB50 on July 25, 2023, 01:18:39 PM3303 also on 31/32 routes.
Just got a picture of 3305, as it went up Bloxwich Road,  by the Coalbatches!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 28, 2023, 08:56:35 AM
Just out of interest, bring the only service between Walsall and Cannock now, would the X51 make enough to run totally commercial without the funding from designer outlet, i use it twice a werk and its often pretty busy esp at factory shift start end times by sainsburys
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 28, 2023, 12:51:21 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 28, 2023, 08:56:35 AMJust out of interest, bring the only service between Walsall and Cannock now, would the X51 make enough to run totally commercial without the funding from designer outlet, i use it twice a werk and its often pretty busy esp at factory shift start end times by sainsburys
Maybe peaks & daytime service, but I wouldn't be surprised once the funding from McArthur Glen has gone,it goes to hourly on Sundays.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 28, 2023, 04:06:55 PM
Is the X51 going tp be mainly hydro soon also or just the Sunday service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 28, 2023, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 28, 2023, 04:06:55 PMIs the X51 going tp be mainly hydro soon also or just the Sunday service?
I'm not sure how the September running boards will work, at the moment there's some morning peak X51 from Walsall, but the running boards will change completely in September 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on July 28, 2023, 04:43:45 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 28, 2023, 04:17:11 PMI'm not sure how the September running boards will work, at the moment there's some morning peak X51 from Walsall, but the running boards will change completely in September
Thats interesting Tony, theyll be the most modern buses in Cannock if they do run there. I wish they'd run into Hednesford, they'd wipe the floor with the Pye Geeen Circular
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on July 28, 2023, 09:20:27 PM
QuoteThats interesting Tony, theyll be the most modern buses in Cannock if they do run there. I wish they'd run into Hednesford, they'd wipe the floor with the Pye Geeen Circular
But that would import delays from Birmingham up to Hednesford and thus have a certain Cannock area based correspondent moaning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on July 29, 2023, 09:22:52 AM
The 997 is operating with all Hydrogen vehicles!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on July 29, 2023, 09:40:39 AM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on July 29, 2023, 09:22:52 AMThe 997 is operating with all Hydrogen vehicles!
Best day for the amount of hydrogen buses out in service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on August 16, 2023, 09:34:27 AM
I hear this morning that Walsall garage is losing the 19 service in October to Chaserider buses.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 16, 2023, 10:14:10 AM
Quote from: PB50 on August 16, 2023, 09:34:27 AMI hear this morning that Walsall garage is losing the 19 service in October to Chaserider buses.
Unless they're opening the depot specially, it'll just be the Monday to Saturday service surely, so does that mean Nx keep the Sunday service or someone else (Diamond?) has it instead?

How many times has Cannock depot under Arriva had the 19 for some reason?

(I know Arriva Wednesfield also operated it as well, before that's pointed out!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on August 16, 2023, 04:11:36 PM
Read a post on Facebook earlier don't know how true it is but it's alleged the 45 is returning to National Express from Diamond and will be operated from Walsall garage and the 9 is transferring from Walsall to Wolverhampton garage again don't know how true that is but this is what I read. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Craigkibbs on August 16, 2023, 06:44:13 PM
chaserider do have to open the depot on sundays for the 100 Madeley to wellington service plus the odd rail replacement work.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 25, 2023, 06:38:11 AM
Noticing 753(?) on the 70 just, in Walsall Bus Station, presumbly on loan, how come Walsall didn't get any 7xx when they were being delivered, as they would've been ideal for the Alumwell route?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Abluhwleh on August 25, 2023, 11:56:01 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 25, 2023, 06:38:11 AMNoticing 753(?) on the 70 just, in Walsall Bus Station, presumbly on loan, how come Walsall didn't get any 7xx when they were being delivered, as they would've been ideal for the Alumwell route?
763
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on August 25, 2023, 01:13:22 PM
Quote from: Westy on August 25, 2023, 06:38:11 AMNoticing 753(?) on the 70 just, in Walsall Bus Station, presumbly on loan, how come Walsall didn't get any 7xx when they were being delivered, as they would've been ideal for the Alumwell route?
The LWB E200's do the job fine, don't forget they replaced the B6's which are near enough the same length and size...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on August 25, 2023, 08:52:16 PM
Quote from: Jack on August 25, 2023, 01:13:22 PMThe LWB E200's do the job fine, don't forget they replaced the B6's which are near enough the same length and size...
They've even had Fleetlines, Lynxes and Nationals on the routes predecessor 336 in times gone by. 

@Jack is correct that LWB E200s  perform perfectly.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on August 27, 2023, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: Abluhwleh on August 25, 2023, 11:56:01 AM763
The 7xx replaced short darts 36xx at WB and PB Solo on 654/54. There was only 14 delivered.  If they had been more I'm sure they would of been put on.

Noticed nx buy full saloon single deck.rather than midibuses. As at WA has around 50 Volvo B6 with only 6 replacement E200 in 2015 855-860.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on August 30, 2023, 12:31:51 PM
Seeing, according to Tony on other threads, 4450 has both broken down & not tracking, plus its due for withdrawal soon anyway, I guess getting that back into service is not a priority?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 30, 2023, 12:44:59 PM
It is on the 31/32 today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on September 03, 2023, 01:24:55 PM
Driver who's took over on 2114 currently on the 9 service has only got as far as Morrisons in Walsall and broke down. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 05, 2023, 12:24:40 PM
6720 is absolutely struggling on the 997 for power, never known it to be so slow, and yet it's expected to be on main City Centre service in limp. Apparently driver can't get it changed, nice...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on September 05, 2023, 01:06:57 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 05, 2023, 12:24:40 PM6720 is absolutely struggling on the 997 for power, never known it to be so slow, and yet it's expected to be on main City Centre service in limp. Apparently driver can't get it changed, nice...
Limp mode it happens regularly with platuims especially in heat
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 05, 2023, 01:44:03 PM
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 05, 2023, 01:06:57 PMLimp mode it happens regularly with platuims especially in heat
They are awful in the heat, to ride with burning leather and them being grey and dark means they are producing more heat, and the lack of power 68 plates ones and newer is even worse.

66 plates are the best ones.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on September 05, 2023, 01:52:31 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 05, 2023, 01:44:03 PMThey are awful in the heat, to ride with burning leather and them being grey and dark means they are producing more heat, and the lack of power 68 plates ones and newer is even worse.

66 plates are the best ones.
6956 is a good one when you walk on jt it's freezing cold went on it yesterday 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on September 05, 2023, 05:19:16 PM
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 05, 2023, 01:06:57 PMLimp mode it happens regularly with platuims especially in heat
I can't remember the last time I had a 68 plate pn platinum go into limp mode so yet again don't know where your info comes from
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on September 05, 2023, 05:40:37 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on September 05, 2023, 05:19:16 PMI can't remember the last time I had a 68 plate pn platinum go into limp mode so yet again don't know where your info comes from
The wb ones do I've been on them they go into limp mode a lot 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: GoldenSquid on September 05, 2023, 06:00:05 PM
The 15/65 plates go limp the most from my experience. 68+ don't have many issues from what I've noticed.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on September 05, 2023, 06:48:53 PM
platinums just utter shite  end of, set them all on fire init bruv, mind they probably self combust in years to come
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on September 05, 2023, 08:22:18 PM
A common cause for Limp Mode is DPFs getting clogged up with soot and being unable to "regen." . I doubt it's specific to 66 or 68 reg etc. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on September 05, 2023, 08:42:41 PM
I'm pretty sure if a bus went into LIMP mode, then it would have to be taken out of service. It is after all an engine management feature that is designed to prevent serious engine damage, and for getting the vehicle somewhere to be serviced or looked at.

Buses being driven slowly because the driver doesn't want to arrive at a timing point early are not in LIMP mode.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 05, 2023, 09:16:41 PM
Quote from: Stu on September 05, 2023, 08:42:41 PMI'm pretty sure if a bus went into LIMP mode, then it would have to be taken out of service. It is after all an engine management feature that is designed to prevent serious engine damage, and for getting the vehicle somewhere to be serviced or looked at.

Buses being driven slowly because the driver doesn't want to arrive at a timing point early are not in LIMP mode.
Correct Stu, no driver would drive a bus in service in limp mode anyway, top speed is around 8mph
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BBS on September 05, 2023, 11:49:21 PM
Quoteplatinums just utter shite  end of, set them all on fire init bruv, mind they probably self combust in years to come
Just be quiet Mate 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on September 05, 2023, 11:51:19 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 05, 2023, 09:16:41 PMCorrect Stu, no driver would drive a bus in service in limp mode anyway, top speed is around 8mph
Oh my god of course they take it out of service it happens all the time with the 82/87 brands regular ones doing it is 6968 6976 6978 6980 6982 6985 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 05, 2023, 11:53:44 PM
Quote from: BBS on September 05, 2023, 11:49:21 PMJust be quiet Mate
He drives them, so I think he's got a valid opinion thank you.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on September 06, 2023, 02:02:17 PM
Quote from: BBS on September 05, 2023, 11:49:21 PMJust be quiet Mate
why are'nt i allowed to air my views, as some one who spends most of my duties driving up and down dudley rd in these sheds being baked ,dehydrated and deafened. so whats your history of platinums , are you a driver?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on September 06, 2023, 02:41:02 PM
Quote from: 18WilliamsLi on September 05, 2023, 11:51:19 PMOh my god of course they take it out of service it happens all the time with the 82/87 brands regular ones doing it is 6968 6976 6978 6980 6982 6985
A platinum in limp mode hardly moves, most drivers even refuse to return them to garage, they certainly never leave garage in limp mode
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on September 06, 2023, 02:43:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 06, 2023, 02:41:02 PMA platinum in limp mode hardly moves, most drivers even refuse to return them to garage, they certainly never leave garage in limp mode
They go into limp mode halfway during day and of course they take it out of service they drive it straight back to garage or park up and wait for a engineer to come out 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on September 06, 2023, 04:52:41 PM
Cummins specific but I imagine it's similar across the board.

Scenario 1:
When the vehicle runs out of Adblue (something which I reckon is very rare at NX), power is restricted, so it's slow accelerating but will eventually reach speed limits.

Scenario 2:
When the vehicle is switched off during a regen (there's usually a warning on the dash indicating that exhaust temperatures are hot when this is taking place), the vehicle when restarted may fall into Limp mode, resulting in the vehicle hardly moving (restricted to between 8-15km/h.)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on September 06, 2023, 08:53:05 PM
I hear kids on the Beechdale have smashed the drivers wing mirror tonight as he went past them by throwing a stone at it. Don't know the number of the bus though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Dom on September 08, 2023, 04:27:50 PM
QuoteA platinum in limp mode hardly moves, most drivers even refuse to return them to garage, they certainly never leave garage in limp mode
I once had a 66 plate go into limp mode on me. Stranded it straight away, not safe to drive.

There's a big difference between a bus being slow and being in limp mode. 803 and 867 used to be dreadfully slow pulling away and picking up speed, they weren't in limp mode though.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on September 14, 2023, 06:40:59 AM
Sorry, what exactly is "limp mode"?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on September 14, 2023, 07:15:09 AM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on September 14, 2023, 06:40:59 AMSorry, what exactly is "limp mode"?
See my reply earlier in the thread:
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=317476


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 18WilliamsLi on September 19, 2023, 11:04:54 AM
Any idea why 6739 is parked in Wednesbury bus station 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: spacecowboy150 on September 26, 2023, 08:29:13 PM
So how come on youtube everyone says slow buses are limp? does noone know this misconception?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on September 27, 2023, 08:41:48 AM
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on September 26, 2023, 08:29:13 PMSo how come on youtube everyone says slow buses are limp? does noone know this misconception?
Not up to speed with today's youth's use of slang, so a slow bus means LIMP then, what's a fast one then? etc etc 
in my world a slow bus we say its a shed/shite / shopping trolley even 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2023, 05:44:58 PM
@Owen, not noteworthy at all, it's just off it's branded route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on September 27, 2023, 06:06:35 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 27, 2023, 05:44:58 PM@Owen, not noteworthy at all, it's just off it's branded route.
Normally a B7RLE or E200 I think.
Looking at bus times history that evening 17:15 working looks to be a B7RLE daily.
https://bustimes.org/services/x15-birmingham-sutton-coldfield-via-erdington/vehicles?date=2023-09-27

The scanias used to be used on there a lot. Not so much these days.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2023, 06:24:37 PM
Quote from: 2206 on September 27, 2023, 06:06:35 PMNormally a B7RLE or E200 I think.
Looking at bus times history that evening 17:15 working looks to be a B7RLE daily.
https://bustimes.org/services/x15-birmingham-sutton-coldfield-via-erdington/vehicles?date=2023-09-27

The scanias used to be used on there a lot. Not so much these days.

Still it's hardly noteworthy. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Owen on September 27, 2023, 06:28:09 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 27, 2023, 05:44:58 PM@Owen, not noteworthy at all, it's just off its branded route.
Allocations are usually b7rles, and e200s secondary. I've never seen a Scania on there since the routes transfer from PB. It's also 4 branded which is never really seen working in the Sutton area even on the 77/A.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2023, 06:49:17 PM
Quote from: Owen on September 27, 2023, 06:28:09 PMAllocations are usually b7rles, and e200s secondary. I've never seen a Scania on there since the routes transfer from PB. It's also 4 branded which is never really seen working in the Sutton area even on the 77/A.
I've seen plenty of Scania's on the 77, it's not that interesting at all, branded or unbranded.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: spacecowboy150 on September 27, 2023, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: 2900 on September 27, 2023, 08:41:48 AMNot up to speed with today's youth's use of slang, so a slow bus means LIMP then, what's a fast one then? etc etc
in my world a slow bus we say its a shed/shite / shopping trolley even
I've never heard shopping trolley before im gonna start using that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: spacecowboy150 on September 27, 2023, 08:34:32 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 27, 2023, 06:49:17 PMI've seen plenty of Scania's on the 77, it's not that interesting at all, branded or unbranded.
I saw a lot on there when it got extended to Erdington but not so much now mostly Eclipse 2 or E200
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Owen on September 27, 2023, 09:07:06 PM
Quote from: Jack on September 27, 2023, 06:49:17 PMI've seen plenty of Scania's on the 77, it's not that interesting at all, branded or unbranded.
It's been a long time since a scania appeared on the X15
If I happen see something noteworthy I'll write it down for people who are interested... or else there wouldn't be a pinned thread. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 27, 2023, 09:18:22 PM
Quote from: Owen on September 27, 2023, 09:07:06 PMIt's been a long time since a scania appeared on the X15
If I happen see something noteworthy I'll write it down for people who are interested... or else there wouldn't be a pinned thread.
I don't think many people are interested unless it's ultra noteworthy like a SWB on a busy Decker service... I think most people aren't bothered anymore, since 2020 vehicles are used more widespread...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on October 12, 2023, 09:53:06 PM
6750 has made an appearance on X15 very rare as not seen a WA decker on it since. Although PB used deckers every day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on October 12, 2023, 11:53:38 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on October 12, 2023, 09:53:06 PM6750 has made an appearance on X15 very rare as not seen a WA decker on it since. Although PB used deckers every day.

6750 made an appearance on the X15 on the 8th of September 2022.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on October 22, 2023, 09:01:27 AM
The 77 allocation now is fully E200 Mon Sat

Only odd workings are

X15 1715 Sutton coldfield 1810 Birmingham which is
B7RLE 8 board

77 1630 Walsall 1725 Sutton Coldfield

Platinum 35 Board

On Sundays B7RLE as 6 Boards.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 22, 2023, 12:45:39 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on October 22, 2023, 09:01:27 AMThe 77 allocation now is fully E200 Mon Sat

Only odd workings are

X15 1715 Sutton coldfield 1810 Birmingham which is
B7RLE 8 board

77 1630 Walsall 1725 Sutton Coldfield

Platinum 35 Board

On Sundays B7RLE as 6 Boards.
Thought the 9 had swopped to Wolves today?

Bustimes suggests it hasn't, unless it swops tomorrow instead?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on October 22, 2023, 12:50:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on October 22, 2023, 12:45:39 PMThought the 9 had swopped to Wolves today?
Bustimes suggests it hasn't, unless it swops tomorrow instead?
Timetable changes from 29th October 2023 | NX Bus West Midlands (https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/timetable-changes-from-29th-october-2023)

29th October.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on October 22, 2023, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: 2206 on October 22, 2023, 12:50:14 PMTimetable changes from 29th October 2023 | NX Bus West Midlands (https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/timetable-changes-from-29th-october-2023)

29th October.
Ok
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 10, 2023, 08:07:29 AM
Just seen WB's 4959 on the 51 to Birmingham. How long will it be at WA for?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 10, 2023, 08:25:55 AM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 10, 2023, 08:07:29 AMJust seen WB's 4959 on the 51 to Birmingham. How long will it be at WA for?
Until it isn't needed or needs to go back to WB for maintenance
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on November 15, 2023, 10:53:49 AM
From 05 November 

77S to Walsall Garage EX PB
9A PM peak operated by Wolverhampton morning still WA
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on November 16, 2023, 10:35:06 PM
I've heard rumours that NX are rumoured to be scrapping the 8 to Lichfield, does anyone know if there is any truth to these rumours? I do hope that this isn't the case as I do like the route 

@Tony would you be able to clarify? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on November 29, 2023, 09:19:56 AM
I've just seen a street deck coming down the Sutton Rd. Didn't catch the number but it might have been 3303.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on November 29, 2023, 09:52:46 AM
Quote from: hlliwmai on November 16, 2023, 10:35:06 PMI've heard rumours that NX are rumoured to be scrapping the 8 to Lichfield, does anyone know if there is any truth to these rumours? I do hope that this isn't the case as I do like the route

@Tony would you be able to clarify?
Probably not connected, but the Christmas schedules are starting to come out & Boxing Day, the 8 is scheduled Walsall to Brownhills only!

(Obviously McArthur Glen is important, as there appears to be no similar issue for the X51?)
Title: walsall garage
Post by: windy miller on December 04, 2023, 05:42:12 PM
  Anyone who may be looking for the WM Walsall bus garage on google maps
  would appear to be unlucky... as the maps image gives you a pic of a bus stop   ??
    there is no image of a garage entrance or bus?? is this a deliberate ploy to deter vandals?
Title: Re: walsall garage
Post by: ellspurs on December 04, 2023, 05:48:11 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.601928,-1.9927674,3a,48.5y,230.7h,82.03t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLxsjEeGAI4EGGcis-t536w!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.6012455,-1.989982,18z?entry=ttu

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.601208,-1.9912284,3a,90y,252.25h,85.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scKkCxv6k5g5Znw2GWq8HyQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu
Title: Re: walsall garage
Post by: Tony on December 04, 2023, 05:50:57 PM
Quote from: windy miller on December 04, 2023, 05:42:12 PMAnyone who may be looking for the WM Walsall bus garage on google maps
  would appear to be unlucky... as the maps image gives you a pic of a bus stop  ??
    there is no image of a garage entrance or bus?? is this a deliberate ploy to deter vandals?
Here's the bus entrance
Walsall, England - Google Maps (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.6018354,-1.9928596,3a,75y,173.29h,94.05t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWQF_1O4h9hIuDhPgcJaxOA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)

Here's the entrance to the offices
Walsall, England - Google Maps (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.6010354,-1.9914847,3a,75y,223.92h,78.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDQHWEWkNBXNTwghrSRXLnA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu)
Title: Re: walsall garage
Post by: Rachvince53 on December 04, 2023, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: windy miller on December 04, 2023, 05:42:12 PMAnyone who may be looking for the WM Walsall bus garage on google maps
  would appear to be unlucky... as the maps image gives you a pic of a bus stop  ??
    there is no image of a garage entrance or bus?? is this a deliberate ploy to deter vandals?
It's possible you chose the bus stop on Bloxwich Road, outside the former maintenance building, which I believe still goes by the name bus depot.
Title: Re: walsall garage
Post by: broma1k on December 04, 2023, 07:45:50 PM
Try 'National Express West Midlands Walsall'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on December 11, 2023, 03:28:48 PM
@Jay71, Omnilinks and B7's are common the Birmingham services as they have never got enough Deckers!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on January 05, 2024, 11:06:15 AM
Have Walsall removed Lochranza Croft and Arran Close as stops for the 51? I was on it yesterday and the NSA went straight from Scott Road to Chapel Lane.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on January 05, 2024, 12:51:54 PM
Why does the 70A display like 70A beechdale with no via on underneath the destination, its displayed as a short journey would. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 05, 2024, 01:12:50 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 05, 2024, 12:51:54 PMWhy does the 70A display like 70A beechdale with no via on underneath the destination, its displayed as a short journey would.
It could display 'Via Reedswood Retail Park' if they wanted to, but they'd have to alter the 70's displays to match!

Back in the Pte days, it used to operate Stephenson Avenue both ways & turn at a turning circle where the Magic Lantern is. It was the 335 then & the 33 before then.

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on January 05, 2024, 01:37:24 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 05, 2024, 01:12:50 PMIt could display 'Via Reedswood Retail Park' if they wanted to, but they'd have to alter the 70's displays to match!

Back in the Pte days, it used to operate Stephenson Avenue both ways & turn at a turning circle where the Magic Lantern is. It was the 335 then & the 33 before then.


Didn't the blinds back then just say "CIRCULAR VIA BEECHDALE"?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 05, 2024, 04:05:24 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on January 05, 2024, 01:37:24 PMDidn't the blinds back then just say "CIRCULAR VIA BEECHDALE"?
It would've done (I think?) if it had been a 333 operating the full circular via Beechdale & Dudleys Fields, in fact would've mentioned both on the blind!

What I'll do later, I'll repost the 1981 blind list I have, when 119L was being discussed ages ago, unless anyone who downloaded it ages ago still has it to hand.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 05, 2024, 06:42:29 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 05, 2024, 01:12:50 PMIt could display 'Via Reedswood Retail Park' if they wanted to, but they'd have to alter the 70's displays to match!

Back in the Pte days, it used to operate Stephenson Avenue both ways & turn at a turning circle where the Magic Lantern is. It was the 335 then & the 33 before then.


I never knew the 335 used to go round Beechdale. I've only ever remembered that going round Alumwell. I've learnt something new.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 05, 2024, 09:36:44 PM
Quote from: PB50 on January 05, 2024, 06:42:29 PMI never knew the 335 used to go round Beechdale. I've only ever remembered that going round Alumwell. I've learnt something new.
Right, quick lesson.

15 & 30 became 329 & 330 Bloxwich, Leamore & Blakenall Circulars. (Present day 29)

33 became 333 & 334 Bloxwich, Leamore, Dudleys Fields & Beechdale Circulars & additionally the 335 as far as the Magic Lantern(Destination showed 'Bloxwich Lane Cavendish Road'!). (Present day 70 / 70a)

31 & 32 became 331 & 332 (Present day 31 & 32)

At some point in early 80's, the evening & Sunday services on the above became 370 / 371, covering 331, 333, 334 & 335, while 372 & 373 covered 329, 330 & 332.

Deregulation made 370 to 373 full time services for a few years, until competition with Chase & Choice brought back the separate services & gradually became the current network.

It's probably a bit more complicated, as numbers were allocated to different areas of Walsall at some point, as you said the 335 served Alumwell, plus the 330 & 331 eventually served Bentley & Lodge Farm too.

(Wonder if it's worth scanning the various maps I have?)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on January 05, 2024, 09:40:50 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 05, 2024, 09:36:44 PMRight, quick lesson.

15 & 30 became 329 & 330 Bloxwich, Leamore & Blakenall Circulars. (Present day 29)

33 became 333 & 334 Bloxwich, Leamore, Dudleys Fields & Beechdale Circulars & additionally the 335 as far as the Magic Lantern(Destination showed 'Bloxwich Lane Cavendish Road'!). (Present day 70 / 70a)

31 & 32 became 331 & 332 (Present day 31 & 32)

At some point in early 80's, the evening & Sunday services on the above became 370 / 371, covering 331, 333, 334 & 335, while 372 & 373 covered 329, 330 & 332.

Deregulation made 370 to 373 full time services for a few years, until competition with Chase & Choice brought back the separate services & gradually became the current network.

It's probably a bit more complicated, as numbers were allocated to different areas of Walsall at some point, as you said the 335 served Alumwell, plus the 330 & 331 eventually served Bentley & Lodge Farm too.

(Wonder if it's worth scanning the various maps I have?)
I always thought the 31 and 32 before was always the 301 and 302, was 331 and 332 their numbers before 301 and 302? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 05, 2024, 09:53:56 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 05, 2024, 09:40:50 PMI always thought the 31 and 32 before was always the 301 and 302, was 331 and 332 their numbers before 301 and 302?
It went 31 / 32 to 331 / 332 in the mid 70's, then evening & Sunday services 370 - 373 started early 80's, becoming the full time services at deregulation, then in the mid 90's, they brought in the 301 initially as a peaks & daytime service, before the 370/371 were cut back to Walsall, Beechdale to Bloxwich omitting Mossley, increasing the 301 as a result.

The separate Lower Farm service as 302 wasn't reintroduced again until the late 90's, again following a similar pattern to change the 372 & 373 as well.

Then the 31 & 32 came in 2018 (?).

(Doing all this from memory, so there might be errors somewhere!)

Perry Barr driver Mark Fitchew writes a series of excellent web blogs on local bus services over the years, if you can track those down, that goes into more detail than me!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 06, 2024, 11:11:49 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 05, 2024, 09:36:44 PMRight, quick lesson.

15 & 30 became 329 & 330 Bloxwich, Leamore & Blakenall Circulars. (Present day 29)

33 became 333 & 334 Bloxwich, Leamore, Dudleys Fields & Beechdale Circulars & additionally the 335 as far as the Magic Lantern(Destination showed 'Bloxwich Lane Cavendish Road'!). (Present day 70 / 70a)

31 & 32 became 331 & 332 (Present day 31 & 32)

At some point in early 80's, the evening & Sunday services on the above became 370 / 371, covering 331, 333, 334 & 335, while 372 & 373 covered 329, 330 & 332.

Deregulation made 370 to 373 full time services for a few years, until competition with Chase & Choice brought back the separate services & gradually became the current network.

It's probably a bit more complicated, as numbers were allocated to different areas of Walsall at some point, as you said the 335 served Alumwell, plus the 330 & 331 eventually served Bentley & Lodge Farm too.

(Wonder if it's worth scanning the various maps I have?)
So what was the 334 now current 34 numbered back then. And On some of the old MK1 Metrobus photos the 334 (34) was shown as going to Wolverhampton I thought this was the 333 (37 in part) these days. I also don't understand why NX didn't renumber the 37 to the 33. It was listed that the 40 was withdrawn and replaced by the 333 which would have been what the old 333 would have been renumbered to
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 06, 2024, 05:37:09 PM
https://we.tl/t-mFYSwSp0gU

What you have in this WeTransfer link(It's legal before you ask, as we use it at work as well!), which is valid for 7 days, is a list of Walsall Corp routes in the late 60's & a selection of screenshots of maps covering 1973 to 1998 hopefully centered on Walsall.

(Taken on my phone, so apologies for the quality!)

I have later ones up to 2019, but haven't got them to hand at the moment.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rachvince53 on January 06, 2024, 07:45:39 PM
Surely the 333 was introduced as a part replacement for the 531 (Wolverhampton to Walsall via Bentley and Beechdale) which continued beyond Wolverhampton Road West to enter Walsall via Darlaston?  Or was this an earlier 333. 

With regards to the 335, I think at one point it just had "Circular" possibly when it was operated by Wright Crusaders. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on January 06, 2024, 08:16:35 PM
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 06, 2024, 07:45:39 PMSurely the 333 was introduced as a part replacement for the 531 (Wolverhampton to Walsall via Bentley and Beechdale) which continued beyond Wolverhampton Road West to enter Walsall via Darlaston?  Or was this an earlier 333.

With regards to the 335, I think at one point it just had "Circular" possibly when it was operated by Wright Crusaders.
The 333 that replaced the 531 was introduced in 1987.
The 333/334 that operated before deregulation (October 1986) was a circular from Walsall serving Beechdale, Bloxwich and Leamore, the 335 was Walsall to Beechdale (Stephenson Avenue).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 06, 2024, 11:57:49 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on January 06, 2024, 08:16:35 PMThe 333 that replaced the 531 was introduced in 1987.
The 333/334 that operated before deregulation (October 1986) was a circular from Walsall serving Beechdale, Bloxwich and Leamore, the 335 was Walsall to Beechdale (Stephenson Avenue).
335's blind terminus was Bloxwich Lane Cavendish Road. (Turning circle by the Magic Lantern pub)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on January 07, 2024, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 05, 2024, 04:05:24 PMIt would've done (I think?) if it had been a 333 operating the full circular via Beechdale & Dudleys Fields, in fact would've mentioned both on the blind!

What I'll do later, I'll repost the 1981 blind list I have, when 119L was being discussed ages ago, unless anyone who downloaded it ages ago still has it to hand.
Many of the Track routes that did short routes displayed Circular via xxxxx to save constant blind changes. Only the TRUE circulars displayed the Circular via, then Beechdale & Mossley or, further back, via Beechdale and Dudleys Fields.

In all fairness, the 70A is only a short route that happens to call via Reedswood Retail Park (though I'd display it as Sainsbury's Reedswood). It doesn't really warrant a full reprogramme.

I'd really love to see that blind list @Westy !!!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 07, 2024, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on January 07, 2024, 07:31:27 PMMany of the Track routes that did short routes displayed Circular via xxxxx to save constant blind changes. Only the TRUE circulars displayed the Circular via, then Beechdale & Mossley or, further back, via Beechdale and Dudleys Fields.

In all fairness, the 70A is only a short route that happens to call via Reedswood Retail Park (though I'd display it as Sainsbury's Reedswood). It doesn't really warrant a full reprogramme.

I'd really love to see that blind list @Westy !!!!
Didn't you get it when I posted it before, when 119L destination displays were discussed last year, as it will be the same one?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on January 08, 2024, 08:33:14 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 07, 2024, 09:00:22 PMDidn't you get it when I posted it before, when 119L destination displays were discussed last year, as it will be the same one?
Probably, but I've slept since then LOL!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on January 08, 2024, 09:37:10 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on January 08, 2024, 08:33:14 PMProbably, but I've slept since then LOL!
You fell asleep with boredom 😂
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on January 09, 2024, 11:49:17 AM
A Walsall 67** just went passed stone cross not in service, I'm assuming it's going to West Bromwich garage, possibly for MOT.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 09, 2024, 09:40:51 PM
https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/85844243/posts/23053

https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/85844243/posts/23606

A couple of Mark Fitchew blogs that might answer some questions.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on January 10, 2024, 06:18:56 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 08, 2024, 09:37:10 PMYou fell asleep with boredom 😂
I normally do that waiting for your lot queueing up at Greggs LOL!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 16, 2024, 10:49:53 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 05, 2024, 09:53:56 PMIt went 31 / 32 to 331 / 332 in the mid 70's, then evening & Sunday services 370 - 373 started early 80's, becoming the full time services at deregulation, then in the mid 90's, they brought in the 301 initially as a peaks & daytime service, before the 370/371 were cut back to Walsall, Beechdale to Bloxwich omitting Mossley, increasing the 301 as a result.

The separate Lower Farm service as 302 wasn't reintroduced again until the late 90's, again following a similar pattern to change the 372 & 373 as well.

Then the 31 & 32 came in 2018 (?).

(Doing all this from memory, so there might be errors somewhere!)

Perry Barr driver Mark Fitchew writes a series of excellent web blogs on local bus services over the years, if you can track those down, that goes into more detail than me!
I remember the 301 and 302,as Cannock to walsall routes too. Not sure of the difference between them though. There was also a 303 304 305 306 and 307 in the Cannock area but no idea where/which way thry went.

Tjere was also a 907 just before the 951 started, it was a limited stop
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mike K on January 16, 2024, 11:13:55 PM
Quote from: Bob on January 16, 2024, 10:49:53 PMI remember the 301 and 302,as Cannock to walsall routes too. Not sure of the difference between them though. There was also a 303 304 305 306 (tel:303%20304%20305%20306) and 307 in the Cannock area but no idea where/which way thry went.

Tjere was also a 907 just before the 951 started, it was a limited stop
The 301-306 covered the many permutations of the various routes taken between Walsall and Cannock, and Cannock and Hednesford. For a time at least I think it was something along the lines of 301 direct to Cannock then via Pye Green to Hednesford, 302 via Cheslyn Hay to Cannock then via Chadsmoor to Hednesford, 303/304 via Great Wyrley (Hilton Lane or Quinton Avenue) to Cannock, then via Chadsmoor to Hednesford, and 305/306 as 303/304 to Cannock, then via Pye Green to Hednesford. Not sure about the 307. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 22, 2024, 05:25:02 PM
Got to say 1840 is a cracking Omnilink rode it on the 37 from Darlaston to Walsall on Friday I think it was the 14:07 off Willenhall no idea if it was late but I didn't an Omnilink could feel so quick. We were within the Speedlimit but the Engine/Gearbox had a slight howl/whistle/whine to it as well as the normal Omnilink sound. We certainly shifted down Walsall Road and the suspension was smooth I felt it lift up over a pothole on the junction of Darlaston Road and Old Pleck Road and there was barely any rattles. It was the first time an Omnilink has impressed me. I don't hate them as much as some people do I think they are good workhorses but they do lack character of the B10's and B6's they replaced on the Darlaston routes but 1840 was certainly no slouch and felt really smooth. The Omnilinks have done well in my opinion. I feel the B7's that I feel will replace them will do equally well.

And unrelated to above but is a B7 longer than an Omnilink I say this as even though they have the same amount of Seats a B7 seems like it can have more passengers on board than an Omnilink though that might be due to the Omnilinks low celing in the middle, an Omnilink also feels tighter as you get twoards the back. I'm average size for a bloke 5'10, quite leggy but skinny I can stretch at the back of an Omnilink but I have to sit twoards the side in a normal seat as I have no knee room. On a B7 there seems to be more space to put your knees maybe it is just me. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 22, 2024, 05:46:39 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 22, 2024, 05:25:02 PMGot to say 1840 is a cracking Omnilink rode it on the 37 from Darlaston to Walsall on Friday I think it was the 14:07 off Willenhall no idea if it was late but I didn't an Omnilink could feel so quick. We were within the Speedlimit but the Engine/Gearbox had a slight howl/whistle/whine to it as well as the normal Omnilink sound. We certainly shifted down Walsall Road and the suspension was smooth I felt it lift up over a pothole on the junction of Darlaston Road and Old Pleck Road and there was barely any rattles. It was the first time an Omnilink has impressed me. I don't hate them as much as some people do I think they are good workhorses but they do lack character of the B10's and B6's they replaced on the Darlaston routes but 1840 was certainly no slouch and felt really smooth. The Omnilinks have done well in my opinion. I feel the B7's that I feel will replace them will do equally well.

And unrelated to above but is a B7 longer than an Omnilink I say this as even though they have the same amount of Seats a B7 seems like it can have more passengers on board than an Omnilink though that might be due to the Omnilinks low celing in the middle, an Omnilink also feels tighter as you get twoards the back. I'm average size for a bloke 5'10, quite leggy but skinny I can stretch at the back of an Omnilink but I have to sit twoards the side in a normal seat as I have no knee room. On a B7 there seems to be more space to put your knees maybe it is just me.
They are virtually the same length, just a few centimetres in it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 22, 2024, 07:21:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2024, 05:46:39 PMThey are virtually the same length, just a few centimetres in it
Must just be I always thought the B7 was longer maybe it is the seat layout or something that makes me think the Omnilink is shorter and cramped twoards the back
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 22, 2024, 07:44:21 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 22, 2024, 07:21:02 PMMust just be I always thought the B7 was longer maybe it is the seat layout or something that makes me think the Omnilink is shorter and cramped twoards the back
Both classed as 12 metres, although the Scania is a few cm short and the B7RLE is a few cm over
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 22, 2024, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on January 22, 2024, 07:44:21 PMBoth classed as 12 metres, although the Scania is a few cm short and the B7RLE is a few cm over
Fair enough Must just be me 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on January 22, 2024, 08:23:44 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 22, 2024, 07:21:02 PMMust just be I always thought the B7 was longer maybe it is the seat layout or something that makes me think the Omnilink is shorter and cramped twoards the back
The B7RLE chassis design allows for more of the bus to be 'low floor', and there's less of a 'step up' at the rear, which makes it 'feel' like there is more room.

Both buses have the same seated capacity, 43.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on January 22, 2024, 10:27:46 PM
Out of interest, why are B7s never on the 39? Around a year ago though I did see one, even did a double take to make sure it wasn't a 34/37!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 22, 2024, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on January 22, 2024, 10:27:46 PMOut of interest, why are B7s never on the 39? Around a year ago though I did see one, even did a double take to make sure it wasn't a 34/37!
I would've thought there was some sort of issue with Bridgeman Street, but if the 39 has had one, then it must be something else?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 23, 2024, 12:24:29 AM
Quote from: Stu on January 22, 2024, 08:23:44 PMThe B7RLE chassis design allows for more of the bus to be 'low floor', and there's less of a 'step up' at the rear, which makes it 'feel' like there is more room.

Both buses have the same seated capacity, 43.

Ah right get you I guess the Omnilinks Low Celing at the back doesn't help either 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 23, 2024, 01:01:06 AM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on January 22, 2024, 10:27:46 PMOut of interest, why are B7s never on the 39? Around a year ago though I did see one, even did a double take to make sure it wasn't a 34/37!
They aren't allowed because of Bridgeman Street, the curved roofs are too much of a tight call. Hence why I've only see Solo's, B6 and B10's and Omnilinks and E200's go under.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 23, 2024, 10:33:52 AM
Quote from: Jack on January 23, 2024, 01:01:06 AMThey aren't allowed because of Bridgeman Street, the curved roofs are too much of a tight call. Hence why I've only see Solo's, B6 and B10's and Omnilinks and E200's go under.
One has appeared on the 39 but it was maybe to tight for regular use on that route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on January 31, 2024, 04:33:58 PM
Is there some sort of issue in Leamore? Coming from Walsall direction on X51 , been sat here ages and barely moved!!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 31, 2024, 07:35:01 PM
Quote from: Bob on January 31, 2024, 04:33:58 PMIs there some sort of issue in Leamore? Coming from Walsall direction on X51 , been sat here ages and barely moved!!
The lights are normally a problem there.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 01, 2024, 04:53:47 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 31, 2024, 07:35:01 PMThe lights are normally a problem there.
There are temporary traffic lights by Forest Lane, forgot to mention!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 02, 2024, 12:26:49 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 01, 2024, 04:53:47 PMThere are temporary traffic lights by Forest Lane, forgot to mention!
Yeah they didnt seem to be working properly, letting about 3 cars through then suddenly changing. 1hr 50 min brum to landywood , if you factor in the roadworks to cannock prob talking 2hrs plus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 02, 2024, 02:27:25 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 02, 2024, 12:26:49 PMYeah they didnt seem to be working properly, letting about 3 cars through then suddenly changing. 1hr 50 min brum to landywood , if you factor in the roadworks to cannock prob talking 2hrs plus
To be honest, that's one reason I prefer to go back direct Willenhall to Bloxwich on the 326, at night, due to various issues.(You still have to contend with the lights by the Bell in Bloxwich though!)

I have to come Walsall way of a morning, as there's no early 326's I can rely on!

Only come back via Walsall at night, if there's something I need!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on February 02, 2024, 02:59:32 PM
I think 1834 has broken down in West Bromwich bus station, seen it just now parked on stand A, it's ment to be due out of merry hill in 23 mins and got into West Bromwich ontime.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on February 05, 2024, 04:47:18 PM
Was a lovely surprise to be onboard 4566 on the 51 to Birmingham today! 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 06, 2024, 07:10:10 AM
Would the Walsall to Cannock leg of the X51 be commercially viable these days? I use it two to three times a week for work and get first one from cannock which is usually quite busy when i get on in landywood, and the one passing us on the way into cannock is usually rammed, i get 3.25 or 3.55 from brum home and its usually really full from walsall, for example the one leaving walsall at 16.12 yesterday was literally full up and dosn with standing passengers!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 06, 2024, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: Bob on February 06, 2024, 07:10:10 AMWould the Walsall to Cannock leg of the X51 be commercially viable these days? I use it two to three times a week for work and get first one from cannock which is usually quite busy when i get on in landywood, and the one passing us on the way into cannock is usually rammed, i get 3.25 or 3.55 from brum home and its usually really full from walsall, for example the one leaving walsall at 16.12 yesterday was literally full up and dosn with standing passengers!
This year I caught the X51 back from Birmingham after a college event and the 15:30 ish I think from Brum to Cannock was absolutely Rammed. I was stood til just after the Scott Arms but we gained more passengers from there to Walsall where I got off. I assume it might have been rammed as the last X51 to Walsall has turned up before. But it was still rammed and got buiser. I always thought it used to be commercially viable, as My Dad remembers the X51 to Cannock of an evening being busy 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 06, 2024, 03:14:51 PM
Certainly before deregulation, as various versions of the 301/302 etc, it managed a half hourly evening & Sunday service.

(Obviously, before @Tony says, it was before the return of the train!)

Can someone clarify something for me, was the chop down of the old 951 service down to the train service, or did construction of BNRR have something to do with it, due to delays ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 06, 2024, 08:01:22 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 06, 2024, 03:14:51 PMCertainly before deregulation, as various versions of the 301/302 etc, it managed a half hourly evening & Sunday service.

(Obviously, before @Tony says, it was before the return of the train!)

Can someone clarify something for me, was the chop down of the old 951 service down to the train service, or did construction of BNRR have something to do with it, due to delays ?
To be fair the all day 951 ( and the 3xx Cannock service) remained running for quite a lot of years after the through train to brum started in early 90s
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jay71 on February 07, 2024, 04:10:07 PM
Is Walsall garage currently short of buses?  Past few days I've single deckers on the 51/X51

Does anyone know how many buses they currently have off the road?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on February 07, 2024, 04:17:17 PM
Quote from: Jay71 on February 07, 2024, 04:10:07 PMIs Walsall garage currently short of buses?  Past few days I've single deckers on the 51/X51

Does anyone know how many buses they currently have off the road?
I think with the hydrogen buses being off the road, don't help them.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 07, 2024, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Jay71 on February 07, 2024, 04:10:07 PMIs Walsall garage currently short of buses?  Past few days I've single deckers on the 51/X51

Does anyone know how many buses they currently have off the road?
Yes Tony has said this there a lot more single deckers than Double Deckers at WA. The Hydrogens are out service but they do have 3 buses on loan of which 2 are Euro 6 I think 5408 might be to the other two being 4752 and 6108 they have also got 4770 permanently so that's 3 Double deckers. There will be a Double Decker probably coming off a school route or local route after doing a school route that will probably be put on the 51 and X51 ie a Platty, E400, 4125 or a StreetDeck. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jay71 on February 07, 2024, 05:19:26 PM
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Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 07, 2024, 05:12:19 PMYes Tony has said this there a lot more single deckers than Double Deckers at WA. The Hydrogens are out service but they do have 3 buses on loan of which 2 are Euro 6 I think 5408 might be to the other two being 4752 and 6108 they have also got 4770 permanently so that's 3 Double deckers. There will be a Double Decker probably coming off a school route or local route after doing a school route that will probably be put on the 51 and X51 ie a Platty, E400, 4125 or a StreetDeck.
A streetdeck was on the 51 this afternoon 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on February 07, 2024, 05:23:09 PM
Nice to see 5 street decks out in service in a day. Let's hope it lasts. I've noticed they are using most of them on the 51 service whilst the hydrogens are out of service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 07, 2024, 06:25:47 PM
Quote from: Jay71 on February 07, 2024, 04:10:07 PMIs Walsall garage currently short of buses?  Past few days I've single deckers on the 51/X51

Does anyone know how many buses they currently have off the road?
The fact the bus is running doesn't mean they are short of buses. With 20 double decks parked up for lack of fuel it's not really surprising other buses are having to cover
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on February 07, 2024, 06:42:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2024, 06:25:47 PMThe fact the bus is running doesn't mean they are short of buses. With 20 double decks parked up for lack of fuel it's not really surprising other buses are having to cover
You know in terms of refuelling, does each bus have some sort of fuel card on board which when they refuel they use that to pay or something how does it work?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 07, 2024, 07:00:05 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 07, 2024, 06:42:11 PMYou know in terms of refuelling, does each bus have some sort of fuel card on board which when they refuel they use that to pay or something how does it work?
It is like an old fashioned not self service petrol station you will be too young to remember!

Bus drives up at the pump, member of staff comes out fills the bus up, typing in the bus registration to identify the vehicle being fuelled.

As soon as the bus if fuelled driver leaves.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on February 07, 2024, 08:21:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 07, 2024, 07:00:05 PMIt is like an old fashioned not self service petrol station you will be too young to remember!

Bus drives up at the pump, member of staff comes out fills the bus up, typing in the bus registration to identify the vehicle being fuelled.

As soon as the bus if fuelled driver leaves.
Ah I see, is it similar to the attended service I see some petrol stations around Lincoln area have them. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on February 07, 2024, 10:34:11 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 07, 2024, 08:21:35 PMAh I see, is it similar to the attended service I see some petrol stations around Lincoln area have them.

There's one on Billesley Lane, in Moseley. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 07, 2024, 10:54:44 PM
Quote from: Jay71 on February 07, 2024, 05:19:26 PMAA streetdeck was on the 51 this afternoon
And on X51 yesterday
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on February 08, 2024, 07:07:25 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 07, 2024, 05:12:19 PMYes Tony has said this there a lot more single deckers than Double Deckers at WA. The Hydrogens are out service but they do have 3 buses on loan of which 2 are Euro 6 I think 5408 might be to the other two being 4752 and 6108 they have also got 4770 permanently so that's 3 Double deckers. There will be a Double Decker probably coming off a school route or local route after doing a school route that will probably be put on the 51 and X51 ie a Platty, E400, 4125 or a StreetDeck.
Is the 881 to Barr Beacon shared with WA and WB?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on February 08, 2024, 07:16:43 AM
Must be a nightmare for the scheduling when 20 of your buses are not available and once they are available you then don't know how long for.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 08, 2024, 11:22:26 AM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on February 08, 2024, 07:07:25 AMIs the 881 to Barr Beacon shared with WA and WB?
Yes it is the 881 is worked by WA in the Afternoon the Buses so for example I think 4868 and another Double Decker then go onto to do trips on the 34 and 37. They do the 34 and 37 to Bilston and Willenhall and then return to Walsall. I think one if not both may go onto another route afterwards. I think the other bus may have been 4736 which did the morning WA 701 then a 34 from Darlaston to Walsall, then Walsall to Bilston then Bilston to Walsall 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 10, 2024, 12:59:56 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on January 07, 2024, 07:31:27 PMMany of the Track routes that did short routes displayed Circular via xxxxx to save constant blind changes. Only the TRUE circulars displayed the Circular via, then Beechdale & Mossley or, further back, via Beechdale and Dudleys Fields.
In all fairness, the 70A is only a short route that happens to call via Reedswood Retail Park (though I'd display it as Sainsbury's Reedswood). It doesn't really warrant a full reprogramme.
I'd really love to see that blind list @Westy !!!!
https://we.tl/t-arbG92kX4s

Had to sort out a proper scanner! @Wumpty 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 10, 2024, 01:57:32 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 10, 2024, 12:59:56 PMhttps://we.tl/t-arbG92kX4s

Had to sort out a proper scanner! @Wumpty
Unable to access the link, can you show in a different way please?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: markcf83 on February 10, 2024, 02:40:28 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on February 08, 2024, 07:16:43 AMMust be a nightmare for the scheduling when 20 of your buses are not available.
During holiday periods you can negate it as a result of no schoolbuses running.  
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 10, 2024, 03:25:48 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 10, 2024, 01:57:32 PMUnable to access the link, can you show in a different way please?
Did you click the link?

If you keep clicking, you eventually come to a download link.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on February 10, 2024, 03:33:50 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 10, 2024, 01:57:32 PMUnable to access the link, can you show in a different way please?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 10, 2024, 03:50:03 PM


@Wumpty - That's the wrong one!

Is there anyone on this site that has never come across WeTransfer before?

You also need access to a program like Winzip as well.

Mods - Is there a way of uploading a PDF like you do with an image, as I can't see an option otherwise.

I don't really want to use my own Google space unless there's no alternative.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on February 10, 2024, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: PB50 on February 07, 2024, 05:23:09 PMNice to see 5 street decks out in service in a day. Let's hope it lasts. I've noticed they are using most of them on the 51 service whilst the hydrogens are out of service.

Yes because the hydrogens are a waste of space what an incredible waste of money they were!, it's really no wonder Birmingham City Council declared themselves bankrupt! Because obviously they were the ones who funded (or at least part funded) them; should have just stuck with conventional diesel wouldn't be any problems then! 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 10, 2024, 04:19:53 PM
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 10, 2024, 04:14:39 PMYes because the hydrogens are a waste of space what an incredible waste of money they were!, it's really no wonder Birmingham City Council declared themselves bankrupt! Because obviously they were the ones who funded (or at least part funded) them; should have just stuck with conventional diesel wouldn't be any problems then!
How could NX have stuck with 'conventional diesel' when they'd already committed in 2019 not to buy any more diesel buses and be zero emission by 2030 ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on February 10, 2024, 04:34:13 PM
N.X. Should contact Birmingham council and say please come and remove these 20 unusable buses from our premises as we can't be expected to maintain a schedule when
These are unavailable the majority of the time and transfer 20 diesels from YW and send them 20 more electrics which in turn have been sitting around for weeks doing nothing.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 10, 2024, 04:47:31 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on February 10, 2024, 04:34:13 PMN.X. Should contact Birmingham council and say please come and remove these 20 unusable buses from our premises as we can't be expected to maintain a schedule when
These are unavailable the majority of the time and transfer 20 diesels from YW and send them 20 more electrics which in turn have been sitting around for weeks doing nothing.
If was that simple it would have already happened !
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on February 10, 2024, 04:51:04 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 10, 2024, 04:19:53 PMHow could NX have stuck with 'conventional diesel' when they'd already committed in 2019 not to buy any more diesel buses and be zero emission by 2030 ?


Well yes there is that BUT look at the amount of problems they are having with those hydrogens! and then there's the electric buses in Coventry a few drivers I know at Coventry are scared to drive them now following the electric bus fires in London of late it does make you think that maybe NX were a bit hasty to oust the diesel buses
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 10, 2024, 05:03:29 PM
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 10, 2024, 04:51:04 PMWell yes there is that BUT look at the amount of problems they are having with those hydrogens! and then there's the electric buses in Coventry a few drivers I know at Coventry are scared to drive them now following the electric bus fires in London of late it does make you think that maybe NX were a bit hasty to oust the diesel buses
First of all don't believe everything you here, secondly here is a quote from Tony:

3 fires in over a thousand vehicles in 10 years is not my definition of several, as a comparison Stagecoach Highlands had three diesel fires one year in a fleet of around 150. Last year NX had zero thermal incidents other than arson despite operating 163 electric vehicles

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 10, 2024, 05:43:53 PM
Can someone tell me why NX didn't wait until both sets of hydro refueling facilities were both available before putting any hydros into service?

At least if one set of facilities was out of action, there would've been a back up automatically.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 10, 2024, 06:09:11 PM
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 10, 2024, 04:14:39 PMYes because the hydrogens are a waste of space what an incredible waste of money they were!, it's really no wonder Birmingham City Council declared themselves bankrupt! Because obviously they were the ones who funded (or at least part funded) them; should have just stuck with conventional diesel wouldn't be any problems then!
Birmingham City Council (BCC) bought those 20 hydrogen buses with funding that they were awarded from the government after applying for it.

The same funding was also used by BCC to contribute towards the building and development of the refuelling facility at Tyseley Energy Park, which would then be used to refuel their hydrogen buses.

This situation has no bearing on BCC's current financial woes.

As far as I am aware, BCC are still the owners of these vehicles, and I presume they have been provided to NX under some kind of lease/rental agreement.

Quote from: Westy on February 10, 2024, 05:43:53 PMCan someone tell me why NX didn't wait until both sets of hydro refueling facilities were both available before putting any hydros into service?

At least if one set of facilities was out of action, there would've been a back up automatically.
The refuelling facility was available at Tyseley when the hydrogen buses first entered service. Any subsequent issues with that facility is out of NX's hands.



Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 10, 2024, 06:53:37 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 10, 2024, 06:09:11 PMBirmingham City Council (BCC) bought those 20 hydrogen buses with funding that they were awarded from the government after applying for it.
It seems a waste to fund 20 vehicles that can hardly ever be used. And when there's no idea when they will be able to return to service either it seems, not a good situation for nx.
They seem to have had issues since they first entered service over 2 years ago.

The electric vehicles in Coventry do seem to be performing a lot better than these.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Straightlines on February 10, 2024, 08:33:29 PM
Quote from: 2206 on February 10, 2024, 06:53:37 PMIt seems a waste to fund 20 vehicles that can hardly ever be used. And when there's no idea when they will be able to return to service either it seems, not a good situation for nx.
They seem to have had issues since they first entered service over 2 years ago.

The electric vehicles in Coventry do seem to be performing a lot better than these.
Yeah because the funding was designed with the intention they would hardly ever be used right?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on February 12, 2024, 09:58:35 AM
No Platinums on the 51 today, unless some aren't tracking! Been a while since I've seen that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 12, 2024, 10:26:35 AM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on February 12, 2024, 09:58:35 AMNo Platinums on the 51 today, unless some aren't tracking! Been a while since I've seen that.
Half Term maybe a factor as more Buses Spare to use on the 51 or Plattys to use on other routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on February 12, 2024, 03:47:04 PM
Sorry
Quote from: Westy on February 10, 2024, 03:50:03 PM@Wumpty - That's the wrong one!

Is there anyone on this site that has never come across WeTransfer before?

You also need access to a program like Winzip as well.

Mods - Is there a way of uploading a PDF like you do with an image, as I can't see an option otherwise.

I don't really want to use my own Google space unless there's no alternative.
@Westy - got this mixed up with the tweet about the 29. Sorry chap!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on February 15, 2024, 11:45:44 AM
just seen an article that Walsall garage has been purchased by WMCA , is this genuine or fake news reason i say that the article i saw was a screen shot could have doctored as they say
just been on WMCA website there is information regarding purchase by  the Investment board  many pdf files etc etc reagarding minutes of meetings etc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: LD713821 on February 15, 2024, 03:20:53 PM
Saw this too
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Quote from: 2900 on February 15, 2024, 11:45:44 AMjust seen an article that Walsall garage has been purchased by WMCA , is this genuine or fake news reason i say that the article i saw was a screen shot could have doctored as they say
just been on WMCA website there is information regarding purchase by  the Investment board  many pdf files etc etc reagarding minutes of meetings etc
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: monkeyjoe on February 15, 2024, 06:30:43 PM
There was a meeting about it late last year. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: D10 on February 15, 2024, 06:48:36 PM
The article is in the new issue of Buses Magazine, so it's not fake news!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 15, 2024, 07:09:16 PM
Quote from: 2900 on February 15, 2024, 11:45:44 AMjust seen an article that Walsall garage has been purchased by WMCA , is this genuine or fake news reason i say that the article i saw was a screen shot could have doctored as they say
just been on WMCA website there is information regarding purchase by  the Investment board  many pdf files etc etc reagarding minutes of meetings etc
Its not the only asset Mobico Group are looking to offload... 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on February 15, 2024, 08:53:44 PM
Quote from: winston on February 15, 2024, 07:09:16 PMIts not the only asset Mobico Group are looking to offload...
That's correct, and it's not unusual for large organisations/businesses to realign their assets and look to sell and re-lease the land.

Tata Steel did a similar thing around 10 years ago by selling their Steelpark and Dudley sites and re-leasing them back. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 15, 2024, 10:55:55 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on February 15, 2024, 08:53:44 PMThat's correct, and it's not unusual for large organisations/businesses to realign their assets and look to sell and re-lease the land.

Tata Steel did a similar thing around 10 years ago by selling their Steelpark and Dudley sites and re-leasing them back.
Especially when they're in debt up to their eyeballs & their shareprice is at bargain basement levels...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Straightlines on February 15, 2024, 10:59:56 PM
It isn't the only site that Transport for West Midlands own in the West Midlands that is capable of being a bus depot and certainly doesn't sound like it will be the last.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 15, 2024, 11:11:55 PM
Quote from: Straightlines on February 15, 2024, 10:59:56 PMIt isn't the only site that Transport for West Midlands own in the West Midlands that is capable of being a bus depot and certainly doesn't sound like it will be the last.
Franchising here we come....😬
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: hlliwmai on February 16, 2024, 12:12:16 AM
Quote from: winston on February 15, 2024, 11:11:55 PMFranchising here we come....😬


the West Midlands version of Bee Network then... hmm I'm intrigued 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 16, 2024, 12:35:08 AM
Quote from: hlliwmai on February 16, 2024, 12:12:16 AMthe West Midlands version of Bee Network then... hmm I'm intrigued
Bee Network isn't a livery. WM Bus is no more inspiring.... 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: the trainbasher on February 16, 2024, 05:10:29 PM
QuoteFranchising here we come....😬
Funnily enough the WMCA Transport Committee mention franchising as an option they're reviewing, along with revising the Ring and Ride service to include WM Bus on Demand
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 16, 2024, 05:40:55 PM
Quote from: LD713821 on February 15, 2024, 03:20:53 PMSaw this too
(https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1201257469339521105/1207705391388037171/image.png?ex=65e09e4b&is=65ce294b&hm=4ab50c6b78c92beab9af723a4f499df8813d58c82a88c24916d4ea8232344d53&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=243&height=468)
I wonder how much "cash on the table" Andy Street has put for this? :grin:

Perhaps the plans for introducing franchising are far more advanced than anyone suspects. I can't see any other purpose for this acquisition, and it just shows the 'consultation phase' is just a smokescreen.

This probably won't be the last garage acquisition by the WMCA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 16, 2024, 07:36:45 PM
@BlackCountryBusSpotter, B7's are far from noteworthy on the 4's, they appear everyday on there!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 16, 2024, 07:49:11 PM
Quote from: Jack on February 16, 2024, 07:36:45 PM@BlackCountryBusSpotter, B7's are far from noteworthy on the 4's, they appear everyday on there!


That would explain why the 4-branded OmniLinks keep appearing on other services.

Anyway, if you know this is a fact, why not report it in the thread for the Usual Allocations sheet, so that I can check and update it?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 16, 2024, 09:36:55 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 16, 2024, 07:49:11 PMThat would explain why the 4-branded OmniLinks keep appearing on other services.

Anyway, if you know this is a fact, why not report it in the thread for the Usual Allocations sheet, so that I can check and update it?

I used to but half the time no one bothered to reply so I don't see why I should now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 18, 2024, 02:04:04 PM
Quote from: Jack on February 16, 2024, 09:36:55 PMI used to but half the time no one bothered to reply so I don't see why I should now.
To stop people like me assuming the B7 is the unusual allocation on the 4. I've only ever seen the B7 on the 4 once before I reported that Time so I thought it was Unusual 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 18, 2024, 02:08:14 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 18, 2024, 02:04:04 PMTo stop people like me assuming the B7 is the unusual allocation on the 4. I've only ever seen the B7 on the 4 once before I reported that Time so I thought it was Unusual
B7RLE's (both the MK1 and MK2) have always been common on the 4's for quite some years now, you've clearly not seen many...

Walsall don't really differentiate between the types either. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2900 on February 18, 2024, 06:30:09 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 18, 2024, 02:04:04 PMTo stop people like me assuming the B7 is the unusual allocation on the 4. I've only ever seen the B7 on the 4 once before I reported that Time so I thought it was Unusual
Tony would say Walsall garage bus on Walsall garage service end of
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on February 18, 2024, 06:58:00 PM
Is the WA37 on a diversion in Lodge Farm? I'm sure I've read somewhere (maybe on here) that it is, but can't seem to find anything on Nxbus or TFWM websites. And obviously can't track it on Bus Times
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 18, 2024, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on February 18, 2024, 06:58:00 PMIs the WA37 on a diversion in Lodge Farm? I'm sure I've read somewhere (maybe on here) that it is, but can't seem to find anything on Nxbus or TFWM websites. And obviously can't track it on Bus Times

https://x.com/nxwestmidlands/status/1759133609162609014?s=20
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on February 18, 2024, 07:57:22 PM
Thanks for that, thought I was going mad!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 18, 2024, 08:44:11 PM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on February 18, 2024, 07:57:22 PMThanks for that, thought I was going mad!
It was due to end a couple of weeks ago but they extended it 37 Diverted till 23rd February
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 21, 2024, 12:27:01 PM
Was just waiting at Bradford Place and 1794 rocked up to do what I thought would be the 12:01 34 to Bilston but it then went not in service and has gone back to Garage apparently the 11:26 34 to Walsall is the last journey every bus does that is scheduled to do the 12:01, is there a reason for this when I looked at 1794 on bustimes it had to do the 12:30 34 back to Walsall and it's last service was due to be the 19:20 39 back to Walsall. Looking at Friday 1846 that was also due to do the 12:01 also went back to Walsall Garage. I know during the normal non half-term week a B7RLE usually does the 34 I think replacing a bus around 9 or 10AM maybe the Double Decker that comes of the 701 but I have also seen it replace an Omnilink but yeah seems strange it had a full schedule and yet it returned back to WA. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on February 24, 2024, 12:32:38 PM
The diversion currently on the 4 service seems to be good and no one complaining about it. I wonder if this could be made permanent route to enable deckers to run the route again. And just so Sandwell and Dudley station has a bus run the 3 or 3A down and send the 3 down the same way as 4s. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 24, 2024, 12:47:23 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 24, 2024, 12:32:38 PMThe diversion currently on the 4 service seems to be good and no one complaining about it. I wonder if this could be made permanent route to enable deckers to run the route again. And just so Sandwell and Dudley station has a bus run the 3 or 3A down and send the 3 down the same way as 4s.
The 3 and 3A already follow the same route as the 4/4H/4M between West Bromwich and Oldbury.


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 24, 2024, 01:15:54 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 24, 2024, 12:32:38 PMThe diversion currently on the 4 service seems to be good and no one complaining about it. I wonder if this could be made permanent route to enable deckers to run the route again. And just so Sandwell and Dudley station has a bus run the 3 or 3A down and send the 3 down the same way as 4s.
You haven't thought this through have you:
Where would you get the double deckers from ? With single deckers already appearing on double decker routes in Birmingham, especially YW services 2 and 3, also frequently appearing on PB services 7, 33, 65, 67 and 907. Which routes would have to lose it's double deckers to put on to the 4s ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 24, 2024, 02:07:39 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 24, 2024, 01:15:54 PMYou haven't thought this through have you:
Where would you get the double deckers from ? With single deckers already appearing on double decker routes in Birmingham, especially YW services 2 and 3, also frequently appearing on PB services 7, 33, 65, 67 and 907. Which routes would have to lose its double deckers to put on to the 4s ?
Exactly there's not enough Deckers let alone swap a whole allocation.

Near enough all of Walsall's 'non City' services are mainly single deckers so I'm not sure where these other Deckers are thought to come from? The 997 and X51?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 24, 2024, 03:08:46 PM
Quote from: Jack on February 24, 2024, 02:07:39 PMExactly there's not enough Deckers let alone swap a whole allocation.

Near enough all of Walsall's 'non City' services are mainly single deckers so I'm not sure where these other Deckers are thought to come from? The 997 and X51?
The only exception of the Double Deckers outside of City is the 6 mostly 4566, E400, StreetDeck, E400 Trident and the 7 as that interworks with it and the 10 has Double Deckers but the last few days has used Omnilinks and B7's. But all Spare Double Deckers Should be used on the City Services. I do believe yesterday after 6761 had worked the 881 and the 34 it was put onto the 934. And Tony has already said all Bradford Place Services don't use Double Deckers as they come out of service under Bridgeman Street. The only exception being the School boards and evening 37
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 24, 2024, 03:10:10 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 24, 2024, 12:32:38 PMThe diversion currently on the 4 service seems to be good and no one complaining about it. I wonder if this could be made permanent route to enable deckers to run the route again. And just so Sandwell and Dudley station has a bus run the 3 or 3A down and send the 3 down the same way as 4s.
Tony has already said Bradford Place can't have Double Deckers due to the Buses running to and from the Garage the only exceptions are School Boards and the Evening 37 as they interwork with the 41 of an Evening and then they run dead from St Paul's 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 24, 2024, 03:15:19 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 24, 2024, 03:08:46 PMThe only exception of the Double Deckers outside of City is the 6 mostly 4566, E400, StreetDeck, E400 Trident and the 7 as that interworks with it and the 10 has Double Deckers but the last few days has used Omnilinks and B7's. But all Spare Double Deckers Should be used on the City Services. I do believe yesterday after 6761 had worked the 881 and the 34 it was put onto the 934. And Tony has already said all Bradford Place Services don't use Double Deckers as they come out of service under Bridgeman Street. The only exception being the School boards and evening 37
I know that as I just said all of them are near enough Singles! I don't know why you needed to post all that, a handful of Deckers don't make tonnes of difference.

Contrary to the point Walsall don't have enough doubles for their other services let alone the 4's.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: winston on February 24, 2024, 04:22:36 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 24, 2024, 01:15:54 PMYou haven't thought this through have you:
Where would you get the double deckers from ? With single deckers already appearing on double decker routes in Birmingham, especially YW services 2 and 3, also frequently appearing on PB services 7, 33, 65, 67 and 907. Which routes would have to lose it's double deckers to put on to the 4s ?
There's 80 new DD EV's virtually ready to enter service for a start, resulting in cascaded DD's elsewhere + allowing for single deckers to be withdrawn. With another 90 due to complete full 170 order. Plus another few hundred to follow. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on February 24, 2024, 05:25:07 PM
Not to mention that Walsall's allocation of Scanias will be due for replacement in the next year or two. I somehow doubt Walsall will get any electrics for the time being but surely could get some cascades. I had a dream about this type of thing but unfortunately, it didn't involve Walsall - PB's 699x-7000 and 7500 etc got transferred to WB replacing all their Geminis, and the Euro 6 ones to AG to replace their non Euro 6 Geminis!! Don't quote me though - it was only a dream lol!! 😀
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 24, 2024, 07:19:40 PM
Quote from: winston on February 24, 2024, 04:22:36 PMThere's 80 new DD EV's virtually ready to enter service for a start, resulting in cascaded DD's elsewhere + allowing for single deckers to be withdrawn. With another 90 due to complete full 170 order. Plus another few hundred to follow.
Bradford Place can't use Double Deckers so even if Walsall did get enough they can't be used on the 4 anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on February 24, 2024, 08:01:57 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 24, 2024, 07:19:40 PMBradford Place can't use Double Deckers so even if Walsall did get enough they can't be used on the 4 anyway.
If you mean because of Bridgeman Street bridge, buses could use Pleck Road and The Broadway or direct in towards Bradford Place from Pleck Road. In any case, even if the Scanias at Walsall were replaced by B7RLEs can those get under the bridge? And any electric single decker would be hard pressed so the route to/from depot issue surely has to be dealt with in the near future. Could the route swap to WB anyway as part of a switch around of routes? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 24, 2024, 08:41:11 PM
Quote from: don on February 24, 2024, 08:01:57 PMIf you mean because of Bridgeman Street bridge, buses could use Pleck Road and The Broadway or direct in towards Bradford Place from Pleck Road. In any case, even if the Scanias at Walsall were replaced by B7RLEs can those get under the bridge? And any electric single decker would be hard pressed so the route to/from depot issue surely has to be dealt with in the near future. Could the route swap to WB anyway as part of a switch around of routes?
You still have the issue that double decks do not legally fit under the bridge at Sandwell & Dudley station.

So they still can't be used on the 4s unless that current diversion becomes permanent, which would require a redrawing of the timetable due to the additional running time needed, and that would mean either an additional vehicle being added to the service, which increases operating costs, or a frequency reduction, which it would appear passengers wouldn't be happy with.


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 24, 2024, 08:43:59 PM
Quote from: don on February 24, 2024, 08:01:57 PMIf you mean because of Bridgeman Street bridge, buses could use Pleck Road and The Broadway or direct in towards Bradford Place from Pleck Road. In any case, even if the Scanias at Walsall were replaced by B7RLEs can those get under the bridge? And any electric single decker would be hard pressed so the route to/from depot issue surely has to be dealt with in the near future. Could the route swap to WB anyway as part of a switch around of routes?
Your looking at approximately 16 buses used on 4/4E/4M. I can't think of a route at WB using that amount of buses which would we able to run from WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on February 24, 2024, 09:16:03 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 24, 2024, 08:43:59 PMYour looking at approximately 16 buses used on 4/4E/4M. I can't think of a route at WB using that amount of buses which would we able to run from WA.
Couldn't a swap round be done with Pensnett, Wolverhampton and Walsall (eg 529 to Walsall), a route from WB to Pensnett and Pensnett to WN? Yes, agree re the diversion to avoid the bridge at Sandwell and Dudley Parkway. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 24, 2024, 09:29:51 PM
Quote from: don on February 24, 2024, 09:16:03 PMCouldn't a swap round be done with Pensnett, Wolverhampton and Walsall (eg 529 to Walsall), a route from WB to Pensnett and Pensnett to WN? Yes, agree re the diversion to avoid the bridge at Sandwell and Dudley Parkway.
The only way could be WA continuing running the 4 to West Bromwich only. PN and WB using double deckers to run 4M (using a different route number) PN from West Brom to Merry Hill with WB running shorts West Brom to Blackheath.
The biggest problem with this is it would be very unpopular with passengers.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 24, 2024, 09:37:49 PM
The 529 used to be run by Walsall only years ago.

Why did it swop to Wolves instead?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on February 24, 2024, 10:13:36 PM
Unless this diversion becomes permanent then deckers won't be used on the 4, and as someone that's drove the 4/4H in the past the stop at sandwell and dudley station, 9 times out of 10 you will have passengers so won't be popular re-routing it away
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on February 24, 2024, 11:13:14 PM
Whenever I have been at Bradford Place, WA buses run dead via Caldmore Road, Upper Hall Lane and Dudley Street. Also the B7RLEs can't go under the Bridgeman Street bridge either (as they're never on 39) but they're at Bradford Place every day.... are they meant to run dead down Bridgeman Street?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: don on February 24, 2024, 11:29:45 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on February 24, 2024, 08:43:59 PMYour looking at approximately 16 buses used on 4/4E/4M. I can't think of a route at WB using that amount of buses which would we able to run from WA.
Interestingly there are 19 B7RLEs at Coventry - presumably will be replaced for the 2025 'Electric City'.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 24, 2024, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on February 24, 2024, 11:13:14 PMWhenever I have been at Bradford Place, WA buses run dead via Caldmore Road, Upper Hall Lane and Dudley Street. Also the B7RLEs can't go under the Bridgeman Street bridge either (as they're never on 39) but they're at Bradford Place every day.... are they meant to run dead down Bridgeman Street?
B7RLE's have been on the 39:
9/02/24 - 2133 was on there on the 1039 and 1209 Walsall - Stowlawn and 1124 Stowlawn - Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on February 24, 2024, 11:47:16 PM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on February 24, 2024, 11:13:14 PMWhenever I have been at Bradford Place, WA buses run dead via Caldmore Road, Upper Hall Lane and Dudley Street. Also the B7RLEs can't go under the Bridgeman Street bridge either (as they're never on 39) but they're at Bradford Place every day.... are they meant to run dead down Bridgeman Street?


B7RLE & Omnilinks are both the same height. (10ft 6)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 25, 2024, 10:39:54 AM
Quote from: don on February 24, 2024, 08:01:57 PMIf you mean because of Bridgeman Street bridge, buses could use Pleck Road and The Broadway or direct in towards Bradford Place from Pleck Road. In any case, even if the Scanias at Walsall were replaced by B7RLEs can those get under the bridge? And any electric single decker would be hard pressed so the route to/from depot issue surely has to be dealt with in the near future. Could the route swap to WB anyway as part of a switch around of routes?
B7's can get under but they might scrape it due to the Curved Roof Tony said either way the Bridge at Sandwell and Dudley on the 4 route NX marked as no Double Deckers. Yes I assume the Morning 34 DD that comes off The 701, the Evening Peak 34/37 DD that comes off the 881 all go back to Garage via Caldmore or Pleck Road. But either way the issue of why the 4 can have DD's has been explained before 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 25, 2024, 03:10:12 PM
Be surprised if Walsall goes electric, as I thought with the hydros for the 51, the rest of the depot routes might go hydro, to be easier?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: MW on February 25, 2024, 04:29:34 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 25, 2024, 03:10:12 PMBe surprised if Walsall goes electric, as I thought with the hydros for the 51, the rest of the depot routes might go hydro, to be easier?

And with it being acquired by TfWM, maybe any hydrogen facilities will be paid for directly by TfWM and then leased out to the operator as part of the lease for the site.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on February 26, 2024, 12:42:10 AM
Would also be great if the trees were sorted on Powis Avenue so the 11/11A could go DD. These can get very crowded especially when a service is missing, which happens quite a lot
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Sh4318 on February 26, 2024, 02:40:14 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 25, 2024, 10:39:54 AMB7's can get under but they might scrape it due to the Curved Roof Tony said either way the Bridge at Sandwell and Dudley on the 4 route NX marked as no Double Deckers. Yes I assume the Morning 34 DD that comes off The 701, the Evening Peak 34/37 DD that comes off the 881 all go back to Garage via Caldmore or Pleck Road. But either way the issue of why the 4 can have DD's has been explained before
Is this rule of no double deckers under the bridge at Sandwell and Dudley a recent thing? I remember seeing deckers on the 3/3A, 4/4H/4M during covid, and some out of service WB double decks taking that route back to the garage from Oldbury
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on February 26, 2024, 08:13:19 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 26, 2024, 02:40:14 AMIs this rule of no double deckers under the bridge at Sandwell and Dudley a recent thing? I remember seeing deckers on the 3/3A, 4/4H/4M during covid, and some out of service WB double decks taking that route back to the garage from Oldbury
West Brom still take buses under there on way to garage I've seen it happen so many times.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 26, 2024, 08:18:42 AM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 26, 2024, 08:13:19 AMWest Brom still take buses under there on way to garage I've seen it happen so many times.
So they are breaking the rules then...

They quite simply shouldn't be going under there, with them being exempt it's been said from NX.

What part you don't understand that these routes can't be Decker operated I don't understand.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on February 26, 2024, 08:33:07 AM
Quote from: Jack on February 26, 2024, 08:18:42 AMSo they are breaking the rules then...

They quite simply shouldn't be going under there, with them being exempt it's been said from NX.

What part you don't understand that these routes can't be Decker operated I don't understand.
He's clearly not listening.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 09:26:52 AM
Quote from: Sh4318 on February 26, 2024, 02:40:14 AMIs this rule of no double deckers under the bridge at Sandwell and Dudley a recent thing? I remember seeing deckers on the 3/3A, 4/4H/4M during covid, and some out of service WB double decks taking that route back to the garage from Oldbury
Yes Tony said they aren't allowed under NX doesn't allow it. Sandwell Council allow it but NX don't
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 09:28:25 AM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 26, 2024, 08:13:19 AMWest Brom still take buses under there on way to garage I've seen it happen so many times.
That's a serious allegation. I highly doubt they do as it is told they can't go under
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: wbdriver on February 26, 2024, 09:38:04 AM

Quote from: Wba_lad on February 26, 2024, 08:13:19 AMWest Brom still take buses under there on way to garage I've seen it happen so many times.

as a driver at WB garage, this only applies to single deckers. all double deckers must use fountain lane, albion road and brandon way to and from garage.
any driver or engineer caught going under the bridge at sandwell and dudley in a double decker will be disciplined.
that came from senior management when the sinage was changed in 2021/22 whenever it was. 
all drivers had to sign paperwork to confirm this.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 09:46:29 AM
Quote from: wbdriver on February 26, 2024, 09:38:04 AMas a driver at WB garage, this only applies to single deckers. all double deckers must use fountain lane, albion road and brandon way to and from garage.
any driver or engineer caught going under the bridge at sandwell and dudley in a double decker will be disciplined.
that came from senior management when the sinage was changed in 2021/22 whenever it was.
all drivers had to sign paperwork to confirm this.
So is making serious allegations saying some of your colleagues are breaking the rules or lying as I trust your bosses would know if a colleague was going under the Bridge 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on February 26, 2024, 09:58:24 AM
Quote from: Jack on February 26, 2024, 08:18:42 AMSo they are breaking the rules then...

They quite simply shouldn't be going under there, with them being exempt it's been said from NX.

What part you don't understand that these routes can't be Decker operated I don't understand.
I said that some west brom drivers on dead run go under sandwell and dudley heading from oldbury to west brom garage. There was one time however where i was waiting for a bus from the train station and the driver driving the platinum stopped in the middle of the road as he realised he went wrong way so i helped him reverse back and then he turned into the road and helped him back out again. i don't see how me saying west brom use this way on dead run is my not understanding. all i said is passengers aren't moaning about the current diversion shame it couldn't be made permant.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on February 26, 2024, 10:00:51 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 09:46:29 AMSo is making serious allegations saying some of your colleagues are breaking the rules or lying as I trust your bosses would know if a colleague was going under the Bridge
Im not lying this was a few months ago now but it was 6972, i can remember it very well. again as i said i haven't seen it happen for a while but it has happened a few times. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 10:28:17 AM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 26, 2024, 09:58:24 AMI said that some west brom drivers on dead run go under sandwell and dudley heading from oldbury to west brom garage. There was one time however where i was waiting for a bus from the train station and the driver driving the platinum stopped in the middle of the road as he realised he went wrong way so i helped him reverse back and then he turned into the road and helped him back out again. i don't see how me saying west brom use this way on dead run is my not understanding. all i said is passengers aren't moaning about the current diversion shame it couldn't be made permant.
That's also a dangerous peice of driving, He can't reverse in the middle of Traffic, and NX Drivers need Banksman not members of the Public to reverse. Banksman have nessceary training the public don't
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on February 26, 2024, 10:52:24 AM
Quote from: Wba_lad on February 26, 2024, 09:58:24 AMI said that some west brom drivers on dead run go under sandwell and dudley heading from oldbury to west brom garage. There was one time however where i was waiting for a bus from the train station and the driver driving the platinum stopped in the middle of the road as he realised he went wrong way so i helped him reverse back and then he turned into the road and helped him back out again. i don't see how me saying west brom use this way on dead run is my not understanding. all i said is passengers aren't moaning about the current diversion shame it couldn't be made permant.
As @wbdriver has said it's been told by the management that any one going under the bridge will be disciplined and as you said you've seen them go under. I suggest you think before you speak before you land people in trouble with you serious allegations of you apparently seeing buses going under!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on February 26, 2024, 11:16:19 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 10:28:17 AMThat's also a dangerous peice of driving, He can't reverse in the middle of Traffic, and NX Drivers need Banksman not members of the Public to reverse. Banksman have nessceary training the public don't
I have helped a bus reverse before on the request of a driver after taking a wrong turn. If it's the only way, it's the only way.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on February 26, 2024, 12:24:56 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 10:28:17 AMThat's also a dangerous peice of driving, He can't reverse in the middle of Traffic, and NX Drivers need Banksman not members of the Public to reverse. Banksman have nessceary training the public don't
That's not exactly a dangerous piece of driving, you literally reverse on your PSV test, it's never an ideal situation to reverse in service, however by getting someone (even if its a member of the public) to watch your back can help reduce that risk. 

Also given the situation what else could the driver have done. 

On a side note I've no idea what people's obsession is with DDs been used on the 4 services. When I drove these route (admittedly before the joint timetable came into effect) the route was busy but frequent enough for single deck buses to be used, by rerouting the service you will reduce the link between sandwell and dudley and west brom/Oldbury which is usually a busy stop on the route.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 01:03:37 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on February 26, 2024, 12:24:56 PMThat's not exactly a dangerous piece of driving, you literally reverse on your PSV test, it's never an ideal situation to reverse in service, however by getting someone (even if its a member of the public) to watch your back can help reduce that risk.

Also given the situation what else could the driver have done.

On a side note I've no idea what people's obsession is with DDs been used on the 4 services. When I drove these route (admittedly before the joint timetable came into effect) the route was busy but frequent enough for single deck buses to be used, by rerouting the service you will reduce the link between sandwell and dudley and west brom/Oldbury which is usually a busy stop on the route.
Oh I didn't know the Public could help my bad
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lukeee on February 26, 2024, 01:37:25 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 26, 2024, 01:03:37 PMOh I didn't know the Public could help my bad
It's preferred to have a trained banksman but as long as the driver has no objections there is nothing to stop them asking a member of the public for help
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on February 26, 2024, 07:57:58 PM
This 'debate' is starting to get a bit tiresome.

Double-decks are not going to be used on the 4s any time soon.

The only way this is going to happen is if either of the following is done:


The 4s don't 'need' double decks, under normal circumstances they will function just fine as a high frequency single-deck operation. Any issues with overcrowding will be down to journeys being delayed by roadworks and traffic congestion elsewhere, or people not realising they can use their nBus Daysavers on Diamond buses as well.

So this "just ain't happening" folks, no matter how much you protest!



Now, can we keep this thread back on-topic of Walsall garage's services please!

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on February 29, 2024, 08:09:19 PM
Did something happen on the X51 in Cannock bus stn last night? A platinum was parked up at the stand with the hazards on with an ambulance parked in front of the bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 07, 2024, 04:43:03 PM
@Wba_lad, nothing noteworthy about a B7 or a Scania on Birmingham service...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on March 07, 2024, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: Jack on March 07, 2024, 04:43:03 PM@Wba_lad, nothing noteworthy about a B7 or a Scania on Birmingham service...
I spotted 1834 at lunchtime in Brum!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on March 07, 2024, 06:00:42 PM
Quote from: Westy on March 07, 2024, 05:56:45 PMI spotted 1834 at lunchtime in Brum!
Yep it's on the 51. 

There's another Scania on the X51 which again proves my point...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on March 07, 2024, 06:34:22 PM
All 4 of the ex AG Scanias at WA were sent there as Hydrogen cover, so there will nearly always be at least 4 single decks on 'city' routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on March 07, 2024, 07:24:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 07, 2024, 06:34:22 PMAll 4 of the ex AG Scanias at WA were sent there as Hydrogen cover, so there will nearly always be at least 4 single decks on 'city' routes
Oh I didn't know I apologise I thought it was a noteworthy working a Volvo on the X51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 02, 2024, 04:29:51 PM
Did the 4pm and 4.27 brum to Cannock X51s run today? Neither have tracked on bustimes. I caught the 15.33 home..mightve had a lucky escape!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on April 05, 2024, 11:12:40 PM
Looks like Cannock bus station is being closed from 8th April untill 26th April 19:30 and 05:00am, I wonder where the X51 will start and terminate.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 05, 2024, 11:29:02 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on April 05, 2024, 11:12:40 PMLooks like Cannock bus station is being closed from 8th April untill 26th April 19:30 and 05:00am, I wonder where the X51 will start and terminate.

https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/service-updates/ringwaypark-road-cannock-closure
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 07, 2024, 11:04:58 AM
Does the Number 8 run on Saturdays to Lichfield as in a couple of Saturdays time depending on how the Football season finishes I might need to travel over to Lichfield to watch my local side in the play offs, Looking on Google maps It tells me to ger there for 2PM I will need my local buses at 9/10AM and to get the Chaserider 36, the NX 8 I know for certain I could get on it with an Nbus Daysaver as only NX would accept it as I'm sure Westy asked Mark Fitchew and that's what he said
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on April 07, 2024, 11:25:19 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 07, 2024, 11:04:58 AMDoes the Number 8 run on Saturdays to Lichfield as in a couple of Saturdays time depending on how the Football season finishes I might need to travel over to Lichfield to watch my local side in the play offs, Looking on Google maps It tells me to ger there for 2PM I will need my local buses at 9/10AM and to get the Chaserider 36, the NX 8 I know for certain I could get on it with an Nbus Daysaver as only NX would accept it as I'm sure Westy asked Mark Fitchew and that's what he said
Surely you know where to look up bus timetables? :undecided:

https://bustimes.org/services/8-walsall-lichfield


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 08, 2024, 04:08:05 PM
Are there tracking issues with Cannock bound ex Brum X51s? I was waiting for the 15.24 from old square and 6734 was displaying  "X51 Walsall" asked the driver what time he was due out and it was 15.24, he had to check his sheet and said it was actually indeed the 1524 to Cannock and changed the blinds accordingly about 15 seconds before leaving. I was gonna nip off at walsall as i need something from shops but looking at bustimes the 15.55 hasnt run from brum. Imagine if someones still there waiting for the Cannock bus lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 08, 2024, 07:36:52 PM
Quote from: Bob on April 08, 2024, 04:08:05 PMAre there tracking issues with Cannock bound ex Brum X51s? I was waiting for the 15.24 from old square and 6734 was displaying  "X51 Walsall" asked the driver what time he was due out and it was 15.24, he had to check his sheet and said it was actually indeed the 1524 to Cannock and changed the blinds accordingly about 15 seconds before leaving. I was gonna nip off at walsall as i need something from shops but looking at bustimes the 15.55 hasnt run from brum. Imagine if someones still there waiting for the Cannock bus lol
Might be late Metro Works on Moor Street causing the X51 to Divert into Birmingham at Peak times which 3PM is in Birmingham it was probably late, the Cannock buses were showing earlier 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 08, 2024, 07:43:14 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 08, 2024, 07:36:52 PMMight be late Metro Works on Moor Street causing the X51 to Divert into Birmingham at Peak times which 3PM is in Birmingham it was probably late, the Cannock buses were showing earlier
The 3.55pm one isnt showing as ran. I just meant imagine not realising that one that said walsall on till 15 secs before it left was a cannock one then waiting for the next one not to come ( if it didnt run ) wouldnt of been a barrel of laughs in Old Square. You have to run the gauntlet of begging smackheads round there as it is lol
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 09, 2024, 12:58:12 AM
Quote from: Bob on April 08, 2024, 07:43:14 PMThe 3.55pm one isnt showing as ran. I just meant imagine not realising that one that said walsall on till 15 secs before it left was a cannock one then waiting for the next one not to come ( if it didnt run ) wouldnt of been a barrel of laughs in Old Square. You have to run the gauntlet of begging smackheads round there as it is lol
Driver on the 15:24 probably thought he was late to Walsall, I know the X51 To Cannock gets busy so did that anyone actually get on heading for Cannock from Brum
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 09, 2024, 02:20:56 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 09, 2024, 12:58:12 AMDriver on the 15:24 probably thought he was late to Walsall, I know the X51 To Cannock gets busy so did that anyone actually get on heading for Cannock from Brum
Yea a few people were still on at Walsall. Bus was almost full up and down once people at Walsall boarded too. NX seem to have made a decent success of the X51
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 09, 2024, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: Bob on April 09, 2024, 02:20:56 PMYea a few people were still on at Walsall. Bus was almost full up and down once people at Walsall boarded too. NX seem to have made a decent success of the X51
Oh yeah It has always been busy I was just wondering as the driver put the wrong display on how many people actually didn't get on initially as The Walsall Passengers should wait for the Walsall Bus Passengers beyond that get the Cannock Bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 09, 2024, 04:19:54 PM
How many go short distance Walsall to Bloxwich on the X51, as the 31 / 32's do get delayed at times?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 09, 2024, 04:22:00 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2024, 04:19:54 PMHow many go short distance Walsall to Bloxwich on the X51, as the 31 / 32's do get delayed at times?
A few did yesterday and also people got on in stafgord st and leamore to go to wyrley etc 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on April 09, 2024, 08:57:25 PM
Quote from: Westy on April 09, 2024, 04:19:54 PMHow many go short distance Walsall to Bloxwich on the X51, as the 31 / 32's do get delayed at times?
As I mentioned in a previous post/thread, I caught the X51 from Bloxwich to Walsall, though never actually thought to do so when planning my journey!

Looking at some of the marketing, there's a greater expected emphasis on the interurban Cannock - Walsall - Brum commuters, rather than the shorter local journey passengers where the X51 mirrors the Track routes.

My experience catching X51 against the old Timesaver 950/1/2 services, the X51 seems to be a more successful offering (granted, the bus landscape has changed), with increased frequency, the shortworkings and the higher loading numbers. I dare say this creates some challenges as @Bob appears to have experienced, though this success coupled with the Brum traffic, does come at a price at times.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 09, 2024, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on April 09, 2024, 08:57:25 PMAs I mentioned in a previous post/thread, I caught the X51 from Bloxwich to Walsall, though never actually thought to do so when planning my journey!

Looking at some of the marketing, there's a greater expected emphasis on the interurban Cannock - Walsall - Brum commuters, rather than the shorter local journey passengers where the X51 mirrors the Track routes.

My experience catching X51 against the old Timesaver 950/1/2 services, the X51 seems to be a more successful offering (granted, the bus landscape has changed), with increased frequency, the shortworkings and the higher loading numbers. I dare say this creates some challenges as @Bob appears to have experienced, though this success coupled with the Brum traffic, does come at a price at times.
Yeah, even the Cannock to Walsall/Walsall to Cannock leg is pretty busy. Sometimes both decks almost full. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 10, 2024, 10:00:25 AM
The X51 is probably slightly quicker or was between Bloxwhich and Walsall as it did go along Green Lane as opposed to leaving the main Bloxwhich Road to go through Leamore 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bob on April 10, 2024, 11:05:26 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 10, 2024, 10:00:25 AMThe X51 is probably slightly quicker or was between Bloxwhich and Walsall as it did go along Green Lane as opposed to leaving the main Bloxwhich Road to go through Leamore
Hasnt done for years though
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 10, 2024, 12:05:45 PM
Quote from: Bob on April 10, 2024, 11:05:26 AMHasnt done for years though
No It hasn't for a while I think to get the buses back to Garage and maybe there was lack of service down Green Lane
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 10, 2024, 02:10:01 PM
Only time we see buses now on that section, is diversions, out of service or training buses!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 15, 2024, 06:59:22 AM
Didnt see the number, but one E200 is showing 70 E to Beechdale.

Havent looked at the timetable, but I think he shouldve put in the full 70 Bloxwich instead, as I dont recall a 70 A at this time?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 19, 2024, 12:22:28 PM
Is there a reason why WA's Platnium's and the early Plattys that arrived in 2015 didn't have USB Charging fitted, and why the next batch onwards had Voith Gearboxes and USB Charging. Is it possible to fit WA's Platnium's with USB Charging the only Platty's WA have with Charging is the Hydrogens as the Platty's are used on the 51 is it possible to fit them with Charging to match. I know the 529, 8 and X8 Platty's have had there's vandalised but other than maybe Perry Barr on the 51 and 93x series and 997 serve I can't think of anywhere they could get trashed. Maybe Bloxwhich on the X51. But the X51 was initially seen as the luxury service Wifi, Extra Leg Room, Leather Seats but then the USB Charging came along on the next batch of Platty's and that felt better you could do work on the bus and charge your device. I know the X51 is popular with Uni, School and college students and Workers from Walsall as the morning Darlaston Services are rammed and almost 2/3rds of that bus go to get the X51 plus passengers from different buses. Most of the people get off by Aston Uni or around Moor Street. The WA batch now don't seem that special. I realise now Wifi has been removed so there might be no point fitting it. But was there a reason that this batch didn't have USB from New
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on April 19, 2024, 05:26:41 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 19, 2024, 12:22:28 PMIs there a reason why WA's Platnium's and the early Plattys that arrived in 2015 didn't have USB Charging fitted, and why the next batch onwards had Voith Gearboxes and USB Charging. Is it possible to fit WA's Platnium's with USB Charging the only Platty's WA have with Charging is the Hydrogens as the Platty's are used on the 51 is it possible to fit them with Charging to match. I know the 529, 8 and X8 Platty's have had there's vandalised but other than maybe Perry Barr on the 51 and 93x series and 997 serve I can't think of anywhere they could get trashed. Maybe Bloxwhich on the X51. But the X51 was initially seen as the luxury service Wifi, Extra Leg Room, Leather Seats but then the USB Charging came along on the next batch of Platty's and that felt better you could do work on the bus and charge your device. I know the X51 is popular with Uni, School and college students and Workers from Walsall as the morning Darlaston Services are rammed and almost 2/3rds of that bus go to get the X51 plus passengers from different buses. Most of the people get off by Aston Uni or around Moor Street. The WA batch now don't seem that special. I realise now Wifi has been removed so there might be no point fitting it. But was there a reason that this batch didn't have USB from New
USB ports can get damaged and vandalized on any service in any area so there's no need to call out specific places.
Platinum was a good concept when new, but after the 2015/16 intake it became the new standard spec for new deliveries and as we can see with current refurbs nothing is being retrofitted. But when Walsall have some more fleet renewal I'm sure you'll see USB features on those routes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on April 19, 2024, 05:41:34 PM
Quote from: Gareth on April 19, 2024, 05:26:41 PMUSB ports can get damaged and vandalized on any service in any area so there's no need to call out specific places.
Platinum was a good concept when new, but after the 2015/16 intake it became the new standard spec for new deliveries and as we can see with current refurbs nothing is being retrofitted. But when Walsall have some more fleet renewal I'm sure you'll see USB features on those routes.
In 2014 when those buses were ordered USBs were no standard anywhere. Most phone chargers were still 3 pin plugs, hence a lot of trains only having 3 pin sockets and not USBs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on April 19, 2024, 07:07:23 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 19, 2024, 12:22:28 PMIs it possible to fit WA's Platnium's with USB Charging

In theory yes, it would be possible.

In reality, the time and cost involved in replacing all the seat backs and stripping the interior body apart to run all the additional wiring into the electric supply, it would probably not be worth it. 

To be honest, whenever I travel on vehicles with USB charging sockets, I hardly ever see any passengers using them anyway.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 19, 2024, 11:25:37 PM
Quote from: Stu on April 19, 2024, 07:07:23 PMIn theory yes, it would be possible.

In reality, the time and cost involved in replacing all the seat backs and stripping the interior body apart to run all the additional wiring into the electric supply, it would probably not be worth it.

To be honest, whenever I travel on vehicles with USB charging sockets, I hardly ever see any passengers using them anyway.
To be fair, how many people think to carry a charging cable around with them, bearing in mind, a 'small' percentage of the fleet only have them anyway.

If you're going away, yes, plus you might keep a spare one at work(I got a cheap one from Poundland for that purpose, that I can plug into the PC!).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on April 20, 2024, 11:07:44 AM
4959 has hit a low bridge. 

Clayhanger running private to Brownhills West 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 20, 2024, 11:29:54 AM
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/walsall/brownhills/2024/04/20/road-closed-after-top-of-bus-sliced-off-by-bridge/
Will this be repaired or scrapped it was due for a repaint, doesn't the 8 go under the Bridge, Double Deckers aren't allowed under there so why was it going that way
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on April 20, 2024, 11:46:16 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 20, 2024, 11:29:54 AMhttps://www.expressandstar.com/news/local-hubs/walsall/brownhills/2024/04/20/road-closed-after-top-of-bus-sliced-off-by-bridge/
Will this be repaired or scrapped it was due for a repaint, doesn't the 8 go under the Bridge, Double Deckers aren't allowed under there so why was it going that way
Surely the driver would know the bridge was too low to pass under.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 20, 2024, 12:01:16 PM
Quote from: PB50 on April 20, 2024, 11:46:16 AMSurely the driver would know the bridge was too low to pass under.
Yeah it is a 13"0 Bridge Streetview shows that a single Decker can fit under but not a Double Decker 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on April 20, 2024, 05:45:42 PM
4959 was running private to take up service 10. 

A 10 board driver went wrong way.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 20, 2024, 06:16:30 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on April 20, 2024, 05:45:42 PM4959 was running private to take up service 10.

A 10 board driver went wrong way.

Why did they continue to proceed though should realise that the bridge wasn't big enough for a Double Decker bus to get under there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on April 20, 2024, 07:50:32 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 20, 2024, 06:16:30 PMWhy did they continue to proceed though should realise that the bridge wasn't big enough for a Double Decker bus to get under there
That will no doubt be answered at an internal disciplinary meeting.

Perhaps it was just a simple honest mistake, that will cost someone their job and livelihood.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on April 21, 2024, 12:05:55 AM
Wonder if it's a new driver not used to the route, as the older drivers(if there's any left!) would've known?

Also if it was early morning, surely they would've been coming from the garage via Bloxwich & if starting the 10, wouldn't need to run via Clayhanger anyway?

Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Straightlines on April 21, 2024, 12:25:43 AM
Quote from: Stu on April 20, 2024, 07:50:32 PMThat will no doubt be answered at an internal disciplinary meeting.

Perhaps it was just a simple honest mistake, that will cost someone their job and livelihood.

Hopefully will be answered in a driver conduct meeting in front of the Traffic Commissioner, would be more appropriate.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on April 22, 2024, 03:23:26 PM
Whatever the circumstances that led to the low bridge incident, it is useful to know that it has happened. 

This will be thoroughly investigated, though speculation isn't really helpful.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on April 27, 2024, 07:12:05 PM
1836 broke down today in oldbury interchange and needed a helping hand from RS recovery back to garage.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: frostjay974 on April 29, 2024, 05:03:59 PM
Are there any updates on 4959 and whether it's worth it for it to get repaired or not or if it's going to be withdrawn?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on April 29, 2024, 05:58:29 PM
6761 tracked as a 39 from Walsall Garage to Walsall Bradford Place. Before that 2133 did the same then turned into a 4 to Blackheath. I'm guessing the platinum is not for the 39... any idea what's going on?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on April 29, 2024, 09:11:04 PM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on April 29, 2024, 05:58:29 PM6761 tracked as a 39 from Walsall Garage to Walsall Bradford Place. Before that 2133 did the same then turned into a 4 to Blackheath. I'm guessing the platinum is not for the 39... any idea what's going on?
If 6761 came off the School runs it was probably meant to be a 34 or 37 and the Driver programmed the destination and Ticket machine wrong. 2133 could have done either a 34, 37 and 39 after doing a school Route there is occasionally a journey that does the Darlaston routes and goes onto the 4
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on April 30, 2024, 09:28:37 PM
I saw 6727 going across the top of the market by St Matthews church just before lunchtime heading to Bradford Place then it came back 5 minutes later. There was drivers on the bus so I assumed that it was dropping them off in Bradford Place.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on May 01, 2024, 10:20:20 AM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on April 29, 2024, 05:58:29 PM6761 tracked as a 39 from Walsall Garage to Walsall Bradford Place. Before that 2133 did the same then turned into a 4 to Blackheath. I'm guessing the platinum is not for the 39... any idea what's going on?
The 39 can't have a double decker, due to the low bridge near Bradford place. Volvos are also not allowed on the 39 again due to the low bridge. I did think scanias was taller than the Volvos but clearly not the case.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 01, 2024, 11:43:18 AM
Quote from: Wba_lad on May 01, 2024, 10:20:20 AMThe 39 can't have a double decker, due to the low bridge near Bradford place. Volvos are also not allowed on the 39 again due to the low bridge. I did think scanias was taller than the Volvos but clearly not the case.
Volvo's have been on the 39 there was one on it couple of months ago 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 01, 2024, 06:26:02 PM
On Saturday I will be travelling to Lichfield getting the bus there is fine 12:00 8 to Lichfield, coming back 17:42 or 18:17 I know the 8 takes an hour is there any quicker Buses that I could get on that meet the number 8 does the 10 meet if so is there much difference. I would check Bustimes but I don't know if the Number 10 does meet the Number 8 at all.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 888DUK on May 02, 2024, 05:48:18 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 01, 2024, 06:26:02 PMOn Saturday I will be travelling to Lichfield getting the bus there is fine 12:00 8 to Lichfield, coming back 17:42 or 18:17 I know the 8 takes an hour is there any quicker Buses that I could get on that meet the number 8 does the 10 meet if so is there much difference. I would check Bustimes but I don't know if the Number 10 does meet the Number 8 at all.
10 and 8 meet in Brownhills, but by the time you've hung around for a 10 I can't imagine it saving you any time.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: spacecowboy150 on May 02, 2024, 07:18:56 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 01, 2024, 06:26:02 PMOn Saturday I will be travelling to Lichfield getting the bus there is fine 12:00 8 to Lichfield, coming back 17:42 or 18:17 I know the 8 takes an hour is there any quicker Buses that I could get on that meet the number 8 does the 10 meet if so is there much difference. I would check Bustimes but I don't know if the Number 10 does meet the Number 8 at all.
could get the chaserider 36
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 02, 2024, 07:42:31 PM
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on May 02, 2024, 07:18:56 PMcould get the chaserider 36
Wouldn't run back at 6PM would it and I'll have to get NX services from Darlaston to Walsall and Ik Nbus is accepted on NX in Lichfield
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: spacecowboy150 on May 02, 2024, 08:11:28 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 02, 2024, 07:42:31 PMWouldn't run back at 6PM would it and I'll have to get NX services from Darlaston to Walsall and Ik Nbus is accepted on NX in Lichfield
js get it one way then, at least one way will be faster plus its a nice route
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 02, 2024, 09:04:32 PM
Quote from: spacecowboy150 on May 02, 2024, 08:11:28 PMjs get it one way then, at least one way will be faster plus its a nice route
I would have to pay extra unless they accept Nbus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on May 02, 2024, 09:36:17 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 01, 2024, 06:26:02 PMOn Saturday I will be travelling to Lichfield getting the bus there is fine 12:00 8 to Lichfield, coming back 17:42 or 18:17 I know the 8 takes an hour is there any quicker Buses that I could get on that meet the number 8 does the 10 meet if so is there much difference. I would check Bustimes but I don't know if the Number 10 does meet the Number 8 at all.
Just use the TfWM Journey Planner or Google Maps, that will show you the best way to get back.


Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on May 02, 2024, 10:15:41 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 02, 2024, 07:42:31 PMWouldn't run back at 6PM would it and I'll have to get NX services from Darlaston to Walsall and Ik Nbus is accepted on NX in Lichfield
The last Chaserider 36 off Lichfield is 17:30 I believe, which then gets into Walsall and does the 18:30 back to Lichfield and then runs dead from Lichfield back to Cannock to depot. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on May 03, 2024, 12:17:19 AM
Just get the train back from Lichfield City to Sutton Coldfield, then get a bus from there back to Walsall. Doesn't take long and the 6 (which you could catch at Four Oaks) to Walsall is pretty quick, or you could get the 5 to West Bromwich 🤷�♂️
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 03, 2024, 10:10:14 AM
Quote from: Wba_lad on May 02, 2024, 10:15:41 PMThe last Chaserider 36 off Lichfield is 17:30 I believe, which then gets into Walsall and does the 18:30 back to Lichfield and then runs dead from Lichfield back to Cannock to depot.
On Saturday this is at 17:03 it take half an hour to walk from the ground to Lichfield bus Station and with matches these days it probably finish at 5PM.

I was merely looking at options I'll probably stick with the Number 8 as I know where to go for it and the times. Not sure what Data reception would be like anywhere else and I have a backup map of getting to and from Lichfield Bus Station. I don't mind getting back at half severn I just like looking at my options and any hacks. For example to get to College I always used to go 79 and 1/10 in Wolverhampton but if the 79 was being held up say due to a crash on the Bilston Road I could always have got the 82 or 25 to Bilston and then a 34, 39 or 79 back to Darlaston or at worst the 529 to Walsall or Willenhall then the 37 from Willenhall although in Nbus days the 310 or walked it from County Bridge or get the 34, 37 or 39 back from Walsall to Darlaston. If I was to get the number 5 From Sutton I could easily change at Great Barr Scott Arms for a 51 or X51 I know that option. I'll stick with what I know as it seems the Number 8 is fairly reliable and if worse comes to worse I could get the Train or a lift back. And it doesn't seem that Lichfield is a bad place to wait 15 minutes or so for a bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on May 10, 2024, 07:15:24 AM
1846 involved in rtc yesterday 37 route Atlee Road

3305 rear end collision 08.05.24 Perry Barr while on 51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 10, 2024, 02:53:17 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on May 10, 2024, 07:15:24 AM1846 involved in rtc yesterday 37 route Atlee Road

3305 rear end collision 08.05.24 Perry Barr while on 51.
What time did 1846 have it's RTC I saw it earlier yesterday and are you sure it was an RTC and not ASB 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 10, 2024, 02:58:13 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 10, 2024, 02:53:17 PMWhat time did 1846 have it's RTC I saw it earlier yesterday and are you sure it was an RTC and not ASB
err yes, it was an RTC, and one that will have written the bus off
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 10, 2024, 03:05:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2024, 02:58:13 PMerr yes, it was an RTC, and one that will have written the bus off
Wow must have been coming at some speed the Car not the bus or is it due to the age of 1846 and it not worth being fixed and yes I did see it in the Incidents and Accidents thread so my apologies. It is strange as usually that sort of thing gets reported locally and in the news there was nothing especially considering it must have been serious to write the bus off
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on May 10, 2024, 03:56:44 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 10, 2024, 03:05:10 PMIt is strange as usually that sort of thing gets reported locally and in the news there was nothing especially considering it must have been serious to write the bus off
If there isn't a 'tweet' then the media don't know about these events.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 10, 2024, 05:06:44 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 10, 2024, 03:56:44 PMIf there isn't a 'tweet' then the media don't know about these events.
Fair enough, To be fair I didn't see anything about the 37 diverting but it appears 809 went down Western Ave on it's way back to Walsall, 6761 went down there heading to Willenhall before following the 41 route route Churchill Road to Queen Elizabeth Aveune back to Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on May 13, 2024, 09:39:07 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 10, 2024, 02:53:17 PMWhat time did 1846 have it's RTC I saw it earlier yesterday and are you sure it was an RTC and not ASB
Definitely a RTC, I have a mate who lived right by it and have seen CCTV of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on May 13, 2024, 09:43:54 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 10, 2024, 03:05:10 PMWow must have been coming at some speed the Car not the bus or is it due to the age of 1846 and it not worth being fixed and yes I did see it in the Incidents and Accidents thread so my apologies. It is strange as usually that sort of thing gets reported locally and in the news there was nothing especially considering it must have been serious to write the bus off
I'm not saying anyone was speeding because you really can't judge from CCTV footage only people who will know if the bus was speeding will be national express with their CCTV. The bus was going down the road and the car came out of a side road the bus seemed like it didn't have enough time to react I thought he was going a little too quick but it might of been because everything was stationary and he was only moving vehicle, as I say though I'm not saying he's speeding or not because you can't judge from CCTV.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 13, 2024, 12:18:57 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on May 13, 2024, 09:43:54 AMI'm not saying anyone was speeding because you really can't judge from CCTV footage only people who will know if the bus was speeding will be national express with their CCTV. The bus was going down the road and the car came out of a side road the bus seemed like it didn't have enough time to react I thought he was going a little too quick but it might of been because everything was stationary and he was only moving vehicle, as I say though I'm not saying he's speeding or not because you can't judge from CCTV.
I was more on about the Car speeding not the bus a bus can't really speed down there as it has to give way to Traffic or maneuver through The parked cars. Plus based on the location the bus would have been slowing down ready for the turn onto Poplar Ave
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 13, 2024, 01:22:07 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 13, 2024, 12:18:57 PMI was more on about the Car speeding not the bus a bus can't really speed down there as it has to give way to Traffic or maneuver through The parked cars. Plus based on the location the bus would have been slowing down ready for the turn onto Poplar Ave
It as nothing to do with the car speeding the car was actually going very slowly 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 13, 2024, 07:38:02 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2024, 01:22:07 PMIt as nothing to do with the car speeding the car was actually going very slowly
Oh I didn't want to acuse the Bus Driver of Speeding either I know the car pulled out. There could ne numerous factors, Driver might not have seen the car reacted late as wba lad said, bus driver might have had his/her sight obstructed by something or someone. Could have been distracted by a Passenger. I also didn't want to blame the Car Driver but based on the way i interpreted it flew out the junction obviously it didn't. All that we do is 1846 is a write off further why I gathered speeding was a factor. Although the bus must have hit the car quite hard to be a write off unless it hit a Range Rover or something. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on May 13, 2024, 07:53:11 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 13, 2024, 01:22:07 PMIt as nothing to do with the car speeding the car was actually going very slowly

Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 13, 2024, 07:38:02 PMOh I didn't want to acuse the Bus Driver of Speeding either I know the car pulled out. There could ne numerous factors, Driver might not have seen the car reacted late as wba lad said, bus driver might have had his/her sight obstructed by something or someone. Could have been distracted by a Passenger. I also didn't want to blame the Car Driver but based on the way i interpreted it flew out the junction obviously it didn't. All that we do is 1846 is a write off further why I gathered speeding was a factor. Although the bus must have hit the car quite hard to be a write off unless it hit a Range Rover or something.
I see far too many 'near-misses' where drivers fail to 'give-way' at junctions or roundabouts.

Most drivers do get away with it (just about) by racing out of a junction, but it only takes a slow-moving car to protrude too far across the give-way lines to cause an accident and collision.

You only have to look at the damage caused to that electric bus when a car pulled out into the bus lane on Small Heath Highway in front of it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 13, 2024, 10:22:08 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 13, 2024, 07:53:11 PMI see far too many 'near-misses' where drivers fail to 'give-way' at junctions or roundabouts.

Most drivers do get away with it (just about) by racing out of a junction, but it only takes a slow-moving car to protrude too far across the give-way lines to cause an accident and collision.

You only have to look at the damage caused to that electric bus when a car pulled out into the bus lane on Small Heath Highway in front of it.

True either way we know that WA have lost an Omnilink 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 13, 2024, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 13, 2024, 10:22:08 PMTrue either way we know that WA have lost an Omnilink
They've gained one, 1887 has returned (assuming) as a replacement for 1846.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 13, 2024, 10:39:36 PM
Quote from: Jack on May 13, 2024, 10:30:57 PMThey've gained one, 1887 has returned (assuming) as a replacement for 1846.
1887 was a long term loan to WB with 1860 1860 came back first 1887 presumably yes to replace 1846, 4696 might be on loan to cover for 4959 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on May 14, 2024, 06:24:15 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 13, 2024, 10:39:36 PM1887 was a long term loan to WB with 1860 1860 came back first 1887 presumably yes to replace 1846, 4696 might be on loan to cover for 4959
1804 has also now transferred to Walsall this could also be a replacement.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 14, 2024, 07:03:15 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on May 14, 2024, 06:24:15 PM1804 has also now transferred to Walsall this could also be a replacement.
Yes i would say it is. 4696 is a loan replacement for 4959 and 1804 and 1887 replace 1846 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BK63 YWP on May 14, 2024, 07:27:06 PM
Quote1804 has also now transferred to Walsall this could also be a replacement.
Source?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 14, 2024, 07:30:02 PM
Quote from: BK63 YWP on May 14, 2024, 07:27:06 PMSource?
1804 has transferred,  but 4696 is just an odd short term loan cover, not a replacement for 4959
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 14, 2024, 08:29:07 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 14, 2024, 07:30:02 PM1804 has transferred,  but 4696 is just an odd short term loan cover, not a replacement for 4959
I meant on loan 4696 is a loan replacement as I wouldn't expect one Gemini just to transfer to Walsall. Otherwise they would have only 6761 and WA are short of Double Deckers so that was I expecting 4696 to be the loan replacement of 4959
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 14, 2024, 08:34:18 PM
As I said it is NOT a replacement for 4959
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 14, 2024, 08:57:07 PM
Fair enough is 4959 being repaired or is it going for Scrap
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ingleboro261F on May 15, 2024, 05:30:19 AM
If 1804 has transferred I'm guessing 1805 will also go to Walsall aswell to rid of the omnilinks In AG?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on May 21, 2024, 07:33:34 AM
Went on bus times and 6744 was tracking as the first bus on the 4 service. Definitely a mistake as double deckers cannot run on that service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 21, 2024, 08:32:46 AM
Quote from: PB50 on May 21, 2024, 07:33:34 AMWent on bus times and 6744 was tracking as the first bus on the 4 service. Definitely a mistake as double deckers cannot run on that service.
If you have a look at the map you will see it clearly isn't. 

It's not a 'mistake' the 4 is always used to check replacement ticket machines and new destination programming as it is the easiest service number to type in.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on May 21, 2024, 04:48:46 PM
Loans

YW 1930 on 10 7 and 41

https://flic.kr/p/2pSshja

YW 4775 on 51 am and peak X51

https://flic.kr/p/2pSx5Vs
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on May 23, 2024, 10:03:08 PM
1856 broke down today in oldbury interchange, RS had to come out and recover it, it had a air leak on the breaks. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B7RLE on May 26, 2024, 11:17:16 PM
Out of habit of doing it, I used by nbus swift pass in Cannock on the X51, and it accepted it. I didn't think they accepted it outside of the county?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 27, 2024, 06:13:08 AM
Quote from: B7RLE on May 26, 2024, 11:17:16 PMOut of habit of doing it, I used by nbus swift pass in Cannock on the X51, and it accepted it. I didn't think they accepted it outside of the county?
What is called 'Nbus Regional' or 'Nbus West Midlands' is accepted outside of the county on Nx services only, as I've used it on the 8 to Lichfield.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ingleboro261F on May 27, 2024, 07:51:46 AM
It works for any national express west midlands bus that's why 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2024, 08:13:17 AM
Quote from: B7RLE on May 26, 2024, 11:17:16 PMOut of habit of doing it, I used by nbus swift pass in Cannock on the X51, and it accepted it. I didn't think they accepted it outside of the county?
National Express accept Nbus on all their services, that's been clarified here many times
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 27, 2024, 03:07:17 PM
Quote from: B7RLE on May 26, 2024, 11:17:16 PMOut of habit of doing it, I used by nbus swift pass in Cannock on the X51, and it accepted it. I didn't think they accepted it outside of the county?
I've used it to Lichfield and back. I asked the driver on the 34 and what ticket do I need to get to Lichfield and he said an Nbus I had no grief. Mark Fitchew did say only NX Drivers would accept Nbus In Staffordshire so for example the X51 in Cannock, X3 and 8 in Lichfield.  So you can't for example use Select or Chaserider with it. Some Chaserider Drivers may accept it. But NX certainly do on the X3, X51 and 8 and other services that go out of the Nbus area
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Rachvince53 on May 27, 2024, 07:35:19 PM
Quote from: B7RLE on May 26, 2024, 11:17:16 PMOut of habit of doing it, I used by nbus swift pass in Cannock on the X51, and it accepted it. I didn't think they accepted it outside of the county?
I think they are only valid on NX services outside the nBus area. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B7RLE on May 27, 2024, 08:01:46 PM
On the NXWM website, it says 'If you are travelling outside of the nBus area including Staffordshire, Worcestershire or Warwickshire you will need a NX Day Saver Extra ticket to travel.'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 27, 2024, 09:13:49 PM
Quote from: B7RLE on May 27, 2024, 08:01:46 PMOn the NXWM website, it says 'If you are travelling outside of the nBus area including Staffordshire, Worcestershire or Warwickshire you will need a NX Day Saver Extra ticket to travel.'
If you buy the ticket outside the area you have to buy the daysaver extra, as you can only buy nBus inside, but NX do accept nBus for travel in their services
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 27, 2024, 10:22:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 27, 2024, 09:13:49 PMIf you buy the ticket outside the area you have to buy the daysaver extra, as you can only buy nBus inside, but NX do accept nBus for travel in their services
It's that sentence again, that's ambigious.

It suggests you have to buy another ticket, to travel outside the Nbus area, even if you already have a valid ticket bought inside the area.

I know you don't have to, but as we're discussing it yet again, there's obviously an issue with the wording!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 28, 2024, 06:03:48 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 27, 2024, 10:22:54 PMIt's that sentence again, that's ambigious.

It suggests you have to buy another ticket, to travel outside the Nbus area, even if you already have a valid ticket bought inside the area.

I know you don't have to, but as we're discussing it yet again, there's obviously an issue with the wording!
Nothing ambiguous at all
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 28, 2024, 08:24:49 AM
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2024, 06:03:48 AMNothing ambiguous at all
If people are still asking about these ticket changes after all this time, then people will disagree.

For the record, I understand, if you live / get on in Nbus land, then you get an Nbus ticket.

If you don't live in Nbus land, & get on outside Nbus land, then you get a Daysaver Extra.

Plus Nbus regional passes are valid outside Nbus land on Nx only.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 28, 2024, 10:24:57 AM
Quote from: Westy on May 28, 2024, 08:24:49 AMIf people are still asking about these ticket changes after all this time, then people will disagree.

For the record, I understand, if you live / get on in Nbus land, then you get an Nbus ticket.

If you don't live in Nbus land, & get on outside Nbus land, then you get a Daysaver Extra.

Plus Nbus regional passes are valid outside Nbus land on Nx only.
The best thing to do is ask the driver as I did when I went to Lichfield and he said an Nbus would get me there it did I travelled there and back using it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 28, 2024, 10:29:44 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 28, 2024, 10:24:57 AMThe best thing to do is ask the driver as I did when I went to Lichfield and he said an Nbus would get me there it did I travelled there and back using it
You don't need to ask the driver, you just tap your nBus card on the scanner and it will accept it. The driver will not query any pass the machine accepts.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: B7RLE on May 28, 2024, 02:00:46 PM
In my opinion, the wording is misleading. It says you need an NX Daysaver Extra ticket 'to travel' outside the zone, which isn't the case, and I'm sure its fooled a lot of people, not just me.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 28, 2024, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2024, 10:29:44 AMYou don't need to ask the driver, you just tap your nBus card on the scanner and it will accept it. The driver will not query any pass the machine accepts.
I was on about the tickets
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on May 28, 2024, 05:44:34 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2024, 10:29:44 AMYou don't need to ask the driver, you just tap your nBus card on the scanner and it will accept it. The driver will not query any pass the machine accepts.

IS N network family daytripper accepted outside N bus area. I fancy a trip on Coventry 11 to Leamington Spa. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 29, 2024, 04:55:04 PM
I've often spoke of the moronic drivers and pedestrians on the Darlaston corridor well today I saw an NX Driver actually react to some of these morons. We were by Mount Street when some Women In heels ran from Tasker Street across Wednesbury Road in front of 853 to get to a house on the corner of Mount Street, me and another lad both shook our heads the driver a youngish chap sarcastically clapped his hands. Then people deciding to get off late by Fallings Heath Cemetery he didn't react, and then just before a guy in a Merc nearly caused an accident on the James Bridge Island by overtaking the queue of traffic on the approach that 853 was in and then use the turning lane by the Petrol Station to then cut across and continue straight towards Darlaston that saw the driver shake his head. Honestly how the Darlo drivers remain patient is a mystery. It was annoying me how bad the drivers are down there and how stupid some people are. When you get towards Darlaston it all calms down apart from people making last ditch turns into the Veg Express by the Walsall Road Darlaston Road Junction by Darlaston Town
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 29, 2024, 06:29:39 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 29, 2024, 04:55:04 PMI've often spoke of the moronic drivers and pedestrians on the Darlaston corridor well today I saw an NX Driver actually react to some of these morons. We were by Mount Street when some Women In heels ran from Tasker Street across Wednesbury Road in front of 853 to get to a house on the corner of Mount Street, me and another lad both shook our heads the driver a youngish chap sarcastically clapped his hands. Then people deciding to get off late by Fallings Heath Cemetery he didn't react, and then just before a guy in a Merc nearly caused an accident on the James Bridge Island by overtaking the queue of traffic on the approach that 853 was in and then use the turning lane by the Petrol Station to then cut across and continue straight towards Darlaston that saw the driver shake his head. Honestly how the Darlo drivers remain patient is a mystery. It was annoying me how bad the drivers are down there and how stupid some people are. When you get towards Darlaston it all calms down apart from people making last ditch turns into the Veg Express by the Walsall Road Darlaston Road Junction by Darlaston Town
The Darlo corridor was a decent route, when I caught it for about a year around the time of first lockdown, with the operation of both Nx & Thandi on there, so I didnt have to wait too long for a bus.

I'd still be at our depot there, if it hadnt been for the pandemic, as all the Foodservice business basically shut down overnight.

Now in a couple of months time, after a good 25 to 30 years, we are giving up the lease on those premises & splitting the little amount of work between the other depots we have.

(Thats in case anyone passing James Bridge wonders why there's a sign up there at some point!)
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on May 29, 2024, 07:08:19 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 29, 2024, 06:29:39 PMThe Darlo corridor was a decent route, when I caught it for about a year around the time of first lockdown, with the operation of both Nx & Thandi on there, so I didnt have to wait too long for a bus.

I'd still be at our depot there, if it hadnt been for the pandemic, as all the Foodservice business basically shut down overnight.

Now in a couple of months time, after a good 25 to 30 years, we are giving up the lease on those premises & splitting the little amount of work between the other depots we have.

(Thats in case anyone passing James Bridge wonders why there's a sign up there at some point!)
Is it Blakemore the food place, reliability is fine can be bad if there is traffic on the M6 as Darlaston is used as the cut through, or EID/Ramadan Traffic in Pleck, Shopping/School Traffic in Darlo and School Traffic at that school in Pleck. But it is more the standard of driving and people acting like morons is terrible. Pleck has always had that issue. My Stepmum used to either go down Walsall Road or cut through Alumwell to get me to Primary School by Walsall Fire Station. Because of the awful drivers also common by my school she went straight down the Black Country Route. The amount of cars that used to have accident damage parked on the Wednesbury Road along Pleck High Street was incredible was pretty much like nearly every car, they all Park on Double Yellows to narrows the road makes it hard for buses. Sometimes they park in the bus stops. The services themselves are still reliable but the drivers and idiotic pedestrians are the issue. As I said today's driver home was the first I have seen react with sarcasm. Surprised there ay incidents involving Buses or more crashes down there. Even 10 years ago it was bad. The 34/37/39 are fine there reliable and when you clear Darlaston they usually empty out a bit and it isn't so bad with the drivers but Pleck especially is terrible.

The new traffic lights down the road from where the new station if it is built will be located do help the stupid drivers. But at peak times that can get congested as there are two sets. Then that traffic will queue to get around James Bridge Island
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on May 30, 2024, 06:19:19 PM
Noting the ex Coventry DD still in Walsall, with Coventry fleetnames & livery, is there any reason why the red stickers with the Nx fleetnames are not being used now, as presumbly there are no diesel DD's in Coventry now?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on May 30, 2024, 06:39:52 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 30, 2024, 06:19:19 PMNoting the ex Coventry DD still in Walsall, with Coventry fleetnames & livery, is there any reason why the red stickers with the Nx fleetnames are not being used now, as presumbly there are no diesel DD's in Coventry now?
Possibly because it's due for repaint soon hence why there's not much point changing them? 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on May 30, 2024, 07:09:31 PM
Quote from: Westy on May 30, 2024, 06:19:19 PMNoting the ex Coventry DD still in Walsall, with Coventry fleetnames & livery, is there any reason why the red stickers with the Nx fleetnames are not being used now, as presumbly there are no diesel DD's in Coventry now?
Along with at Walsall they have been struggling for doubles while the hydrogens are off which is the whole reason it ended up there so don't want it off the road for some stickers.

It will be going into paint soon.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on June 10, 2024, 04:29:52 PM
Driver of 1835 seemed to know before he even turned onto Stafford Road that 1836 was about to pass him. These Roadworks are only for the Pavement behind the Social Club on Willenhall Street and as a result they have closed the Darlaston Carriageway to let Pedestrians use it despite the fact there is a carpark and they have no one working on it. I assume the 39 drivers know the times they are due to meet in opposite directions and are using common sense to wait for the bus in the opposite direction to go past. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on June 29, 2024, 10:44:20 AM
@PB50 4125 isn't Noteworthy it is the preferred Choice to go onto a Birmingham Route as it is Euro 6
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on June 29, 2024, 11:56:46 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on June 29, 2024, 10:44:20 AM@PB50 4125 isn't Noteworthy it is the preferred Choice to go onto a Birmingham Route as it is Euro 6
It is noteworthy because it's not seen that often in the City, it's the only survivor of it's batch and in it's original livery. If there were other survivors of this batch and all (4125 included) in either current livery or Red and White the it wouldn't be noteworthy. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on June 29, 2024, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 29, 2024, 11:56:46 AMIt is noteworthy because it's not seen that often in the City, it's the only survivor of it's batch and in it's original livery. If there were other survivors of this batch and all (4125 included) in either current livery or Red and White the it wouldn't be noteworthy.
Fair enough but it is commonly seen on the 51 and X51 as it is Euro 6 and if WA are down a DD that is normally used I say that I haven't seen it on the 51 myself in ages. I could imagine how good that would sound on the X51 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 29, 2024, 01:43:50 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 29, 2024, 11:56:46 AMIt is noteworthy because it's not seen that often in the City, it's the only survivor of it's batch and in it's original livery. If there were other survivors of this batch and all (4125 included) in either current livery or Red and White the it wouldn't be noteworthy.
No it isn't noteworthy at all, it's a Euro 6 bus on a Euro 6 service. Its common during peaks as well...

4125 has appeared lots in the City since it was Euro 6, it doesn't need to be a noteworthy mention everytime it's on one...
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on June 29, 2024, 01:57:27 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 29, 2024, 01:43:50 PMNo it isn't noteworthy at all, it's a Euro 6 bus on a Euro 6 service. Its common during peaks as well...

4125 has appeared lots in the City since it was Euro 6, it doesn't need to be a noteworthy mention everytime it's on one...
It IS noteworthy simply because of what I stated earlier
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on June 29, 2024, 02:10:52 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on June 29, 2024, 01:57:27 PMIt IS noteworthy simply because of what I stated earlier
No it isn't, a colour of a bus doesn't make it noteworthy. It's a Euro 6 Decker on a route that requires Euro 6 Deckers. Its been in the City more than twice this week, I've seen it myself!

In that case do we need to note down everytime 1834 appears in the City? Or 4780?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on June 29, 2024, 02:25:05 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 29, 2024, 02:10:52 PMNo it isn't, a colour of a bus doesn't make it noteworthy. It's a Euro 6 Decker on a route that requires Euro 6 Deckers. Its been in the City more than twice this week, I've seen it myself!

In that case do we need to note down everytime 1834 appears in the City? Or 4780?
End of argument.
No more comments please.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2024, 05:56:07 PM
Walsall's logest dead bus 1860 is now repaired, although it only managed on trip this morning with a minor fault
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Funnysnow18 on July 02, 2024, 05:58:35 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2024, 05:56:07 PMWalsall's logest dead bus 1860 is now repaired, although it only managed on trip this morning with a minor fault
Is 4696 still at Walsall or come back to wb
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on July 02, 2024, 06:00:31 PM
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 02, 2024, 05:58:35 PMIs 4696 still at Walsall or come back to wb
It's still at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Funnysnow18 on July 02, 2024, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on July 02, 2024, 06:00:31 PMIt's still at Walsall
Need confirmation from Tony or someone who works for nx
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 02, 2024, 06:42:06 PM
Quote from: Funnysnow18 on July 02, 2024, 06:17:12 PMNeed confirmation from Tony or someone who works for nx
Yes, It's still at Walsall
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 02, 2024, 07:34:57 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 02, 2024, 05:56:07 PMWalsall's logest dead bus 1860 is now repaired, although it only managed on trip this morning with a minor fault

Thought it was 1860 I saw parked on Harden Road after the Leamore Lane lights yesterday morning whilst I was on my way into work!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 04, 2024, 06:35:03 PM
@Steve3229vp, Scania's and B7's are common on the Birmingham services still especially during the PM peak.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on July 10, 2024, 11:15:59 AM
I seen 6757 I think it was passing stone cross not in service heading towards West Brom. Not sure what it was doing 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 10, 2024, 05:08:28 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on July 10, 2024, 11:15:59 AMI seen 6757 I think it was passing stone cross not in service heading towards West Brom. Not sure what it was doing
MOT Perhaps at WB
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: frostjay974 on July 10, 2024, 08:51:03 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on July 10, 2024, 11:15:59 AMI seen 6757 I think it was passing stone cross not in service heading towards West Brom. Not sure what it was doing
I saw it in the bus station today too
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on July 10, 2024, 08:54:56 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 10, 2024, 05:08:28 PMMOT Perhaps at WB
Yeah possibly but it was a normal driver driving it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on July 10, 2024, 08:55:15 PM
I also seen 6740 not long after too. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 13, 2024, 06:12:33 PM
If anyone works for WA and you happen to be driving 1885 or see a Backpack please can you msg me I believe I left mine on the Bus I am asking around cus I ay sure. I will confirm if it's mine as I know what it looks like and what should be in it. As I do believe Lost Property is closed. Using bus times 1885 is due on its final journey at 1932 I believe. So if there are any WA Staff here can you please check for it. I wouldn't usually ask but I cor believe I left it. I never normally would.

Edit it appears I left it somewhere else got a msg I know it is secure now.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: frostjay974 on July 13, 2024, 09:34:16 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 13, 2024, 06:12:33 PMIf anyone works for WA and you happen to be driving 1885 or see a Backpack please can you msg me I believe I left mine on the Bus I am asking around cus I ay sure. I will confirm if it's mine as I know what it looks like and what should be in it. As I do believe Lost Property is closed. Using bus times 1885 is due on its final journey at 1932 I believe. So if there are any WA Staff here can you please check for it. I wouldn't usually ask but I cor believe I left it. I never normally would.

Edit it appears I left it somewhere else got a msg I know it is secure now.
Okay but in the future wouldn't it be more beneficial if you actually contacted the garage instead of reporting it on a public bus enthusiast forum??
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on July 13, 2024, 09:50:12 PM
Must admit I've done that twice myself, once on the Bloxwich route & the 2nd time on the 37.

Both occasions, I had to wait for the bus to come back on it's return journey.

Not too bad on the Bloxwich route, but had to wait ages at Bradford Place for the relavant 37 to return, so feel your pain!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on July 13, 2024, 09:56:25 PM
Quote from: frostjay974 on July 13, 2024, 09:34:16 PMOkay but in the future wouldn't it be more beneficial if you actually contacted the garage instead of reporting it on a public bus enthusiast forum??
What's wrong with the guy asking for help, who knows what personnel item he could have been desperate to locate and he's also stated he believed lost property was closed.
Hope you never need help and people take your attitude 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 13, 2024, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: frostjay974 on July 13, 2024, 09:34:16 PMOkay but in the future wouldn't it be more beneficial if you actually contacted the garage instead of reporting it on a public bus enthusiast forum??
Lost Property had closed and It appears I left it somewhere else anyone who might be going to work at Walsall there is a couple of members who work there on here could see it. I also didn't know if 1885 was going to be on the 41 after or head back to Garage hence I asked. It turns out it stayed on the Darlaston rota till half seven then went back to garage 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 13, 2024, 10:27:50 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 13, 2024, 09:50:12 PMMust admit I've done that twice myself, once on the Bloxwich route & the 2nd time on the 37.

Both occasions, I had to wait for the bus to come back on it's return journey.

Not too bad on the Bloxwich route, but had to wait ages at Bradford Place for the relavant 37 to return, so feel your pain!
I didn't if 1885 was on it's last Journey or going to go on the 41 it was heading to Walsall anyway. It then did the 39 so I could have waited at Darlaston or around the corner from my house and then it went on the 34. But It appears I left it somewhere else. Or at least I hope I have the Gaffer of Darlo the team I was watching Said it was behind the Bar so had been picked up. But I would have waited for it in Darlo if I knew to check before I asked. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 13, 2024, 10:32:30 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on July 13, 2024, 09:56:25 PMWhat's wrong with the guy asking for help, who knows what personnel item he could have been desperate to locate and he's also stated he believed lost property was closed.
Hope you never need help and people take your attitude
Yes and I know there is a couple of Walsall Garage staff on here who could be more likely to see it if they aren't at work or tell me if they were at work if they saw it on 1885 and will know what driver if they are senior to enough was driving 1885 on it's last 37 board I believe. As it did the 39 and 34 after. As it happens I may/or have left it somewhere else. And I believe Lost Property had closed I think it usually closes at 4 or 6 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 17, 2024, 12:10:10 AM
@darthdc maybe 2146 was having an MOT at AG or YW. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Stu on July 17, 2024, 09:01:58 AM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 17, 2024, 12:10:10 AM@darthdc maybe 2146 was having an MOT at AG or YW.
Off-topic, 2146 is a Coventry bus!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 17, 2024, 11:17:30 AM
Quote from: Stu on July 17, 2024, 09:01:58 AMOff-topic, 2146 is a Coventry bus!

Oh I thought it was at Walsall 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on July 17, 2024, 02:17:36 PM
Just seen 6721 in stone cross maybe just came from MOT at West Brom
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on July 24, 2024, 02:53:18 PM
I've seen 2 of Walsalls buses in stone cross today not in service, one was 807 heading towards Walsall coming from West Bromwich then the second one was 6714 which went up towards West Bromwich from Walsall then about a hour or so later it came back towards Walsall I'm assuming both of these have been to West Bromwich garage for a MOT. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jay71 on July 24, 2024, 03:26:06 PM
I thought scooters & bikes were not allowed on buses. Maybe I'm wrong about this
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on July 29, 2024, 12:41:52 PM
I see 2126 has been involved in an RTC this morning on the 29 route. Hope the driver was ok.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on July 30, 2024, 12:55:30 PM
2133 has decided to give up in stone cross. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: JosephR on July 30, 2024, 05:48:56 PM
Is there any reason why the 77/A doesn't get allocated deckers. The 77A and X15 (which can get deckers) take the same route?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on July 30, 2024, 06:01:53 PM
Quote from: JosephR on July 30, 2024, 05:48:56 PMIs there any reason why the 77/A doesn't get allocated deckers. The 77A and X15 (which can get deckers) take the same route?
Why waste a double deck on a route that doesn't carry enough passengers to fill an E200?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 30, 2024, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: JosephR on July 30, 2024, 05:48:56 PMIs there any reason why the 77/A doesn't get allocated deckers. The 77A and X15 (which can get deckers) take the same route?
The 77A has never been allocated Deckers, neither has the Sutton-Erdington section of the 77. The X15 could easily cope more with a B7 or Scania considering the amount of E200's I've seen full and standing in the PM peak considering a lot of people catch the first bus between Brum and the Yenton.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: cris 99 on July 31, 2024, 08:57:32 PM
Quote from: Jay71 on July 31, 2024, 08:47:12 PMNormal dire service on the 529 today.  Buses turning up two or three at a time
Why post on this thread?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on July 31, 2024, 09:07:38 PM
Quote from: Jay71 on July 31, 2024, 08:47:12 PMNormal dire service on the 529 today.  Buses turning up two or three at a time
Better in pairs that not turning up at all.
Also the 529 is ran out of WN not WA.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 01, 2024, 01:32:03 AM
Saw an UID Scania on the Black Country Route Yesterday heading back to Walsall as I was walking over the Canal on Wolverhampton Street. I assume it was running dead but at just after 5 I don't know if it had come of the 34/39 or had broken down
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on August 01, 2024, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: Jack on July 31, 2024, 09:07:38 PMBetter in pairs that not turning up at all.
Not at all. Because if it turns up at the same time as the one behind, it's the same as it not running. Yes it may even itself out later into the route or later in the day. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on August 01, 2024, 01:46:52 PM
Quote from: Gareth on August 01, 2024, 11:22:31 AMNot at all. Because if it turns up at the same time as the one behind, it's the same as it not running. Yes it may even itself out later into the route or later in the day.
A bus running in pairs on a high frequency route like that would mean one could be running what, just 10 minutes late.
With traffic on the road, roadworks, it's unavoidable.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on August 07, 2024, 11:10:05 AM
6744 seen on the back of a tow truck in Bridge St just.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 09, 2024, 03:53:01 PM
A couple of weeks ago I was on the 39 I think and alongside out driver there was another Driver stood by the cab not chatting to our driver but I think assessing them I've heard the term Buddy Driving what is this is like for a Driving/Pilots test where you are Route and veichle trained but a more senior driver is assessing your first solo drive. Or is it one senior driver showing the newer driver assuming they are new the Veichle's characteristics or the route so they basically look at how the senior driver is driving the vehicle on the route and they then drive the next shift. At first I thought it was a colleague going home but they remained on the bus til the terminus where I got of to see family. There  had been On the bus before I got On in Walsall to so I gathered our driver who would be driving was being assessed 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on August 09, 2024, 11:48:34 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 09, 2024, 03:53:01 PMA couple of weeks ago I was on the 39 I think and alongside out driver there was another Driver stood by the cab not chatting to our driver but I think assessing them I've heard the term Buddy Driving what is this is like for a Driving/Pilots test where you are Route and veichle trained but a more senior driver is assessing your first solo drive. Or is it one senior driver showing the newer driver assuming they are new the Veichle's characteristics or the route so they basically look at how the senior driver is driving the vehicle on the route and they then drive the next shift. At first I thought it was a colleague going home but they remained on the bus til the terminus where I got of to see family. There  had been On the bus before I got On in Walsall to so I gathered our driver who would be driving was being assessed

It's a buddy driver. When a new driver starts for his first 2 week's in service he is paired with a buddy driver acompany him through the routes and dealing with passengers. After that the new driver is on his own. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 10, 2024, 02:22:48 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on August 09, 2024, 11:48:34 PMIt's a buddy driver. When a new driver starts for his first 2 week's in service he is paired with a buddy driver acompany him through the routes and dealing with passengers. After that the new driver is on his own.
Oh so basically the New Driver is just focusing on driving the Veichle, the Buddy will be greeting passengers and asking them or Double checking passed and tickets and then saying turn left here mate. Maybe pointing out diversion routes. So saying if we get Diverted rather than straight it's right here or something. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on August 10, 2024, 02:45:53 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 10, 2024, 02:22:48 PMOh so basically the New Driver is just focusing on driving the Veichle, the Buddy will be greeting passengers and asking them or Double checking passed and tickets and then saying turn left here mate. Maybe pointing out diversion routes. So saying if we get Diverted rather than straight it's right here or something.

The buddy driver is supervising the. New driver and just providing assistance if needed. With driving or ticket machine or passenger queries. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 11, 2024, 11:20:04 AM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on August 10, 2024, 02:45:53 PMThe buddy driver is supervising the. New driver and just providing assistance if needed. With driving or ticket machine or passenger queries.
Ah right. So sort of like when you drive solo in a driving test but your instructor is next to you they are there to supervise but provide support if the driver needs it. I did wonder as the buddy never spoke to me as I had a Daysaver so showed it to the driver in the cab but he did help a women with a pushchair get on and when a passenger asking for one of the new Tickets as they were going out of the area.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 12:51:37 PM
I just seen 4959 leave Walsall on the back of a RS truck any ideas where this is off too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: a4 funcool 2022 on August 15, 2024, 12:55:21 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 12:51:37 PMI just seen 4959 leave Walsall on the back of a RS truck any ideas where this is off too.
Chances 4959 will come back possibly if its fixed up
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 01:01:18 PM
Quote from: a4 funcool 2022 on August 15, 2024, 12:55:21 PMChances 4959 will come back possibly if its fixed up
No it's still roofless but was on the back of a RS recovery. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: a4 funcool 2022 on August 15, 2024, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 01:01:18 PMNo it's still roofless but was on the back of a RS recovery.
Oh 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on August 15, 2024, 01:25:03 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 12:51:37 PMI just seen 4959 leave Walsall on the back of a RS truck any ideas where this is off too.
It's going to BC for parts recovery 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 05:03:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on August 15, 2024, 01:25:03 PMIt's going to BC for parts recovery
Ah okay thankyou, so definitely not getting repaired now. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 10:02:52 PM
Quote from: frostjay974 on August 15, 2024, 07:49:54 PMI have some photos of it parked up in garage here
What's that enviro 400 next to it with no front blinds in. And yeah I have seen 4959 up close it's a shame they couldn't do something with it to maybe do open top bus shuttles around Birmingham or something (serious idea not being sarcy) 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: TGZac on August 15, 2024, 10:24:50 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 10:02:52 PMWhat's that enviro 400 next to it with no front blinds in.
4916
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BNH2004 on August 15, 2024, 10:45:24 PM
Quote from: TGZac on August 15, 2024, 10:24:50 PM4916
What is it getting repaired on it
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 16, 2024, 11:26:05 AM
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 15, 2024, 10:02:52 PMWhat's that enviro 400 next to it with no front blinds in. And yeah I have seen 4959 up close it's a shame they couldn't do something with it to maybe do open top bus shuttles around Birmingham or something (serious idea not being sarcy)
Would probably still need a half roof or repair and modifying before NX sold it on as no doubt it has been declared a write off so all the Paperwork and it's Sorn status would have to be sorted. NX wouldn't run Open Top Buses. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: TGZac on August 16, 2024, 11:34:17 AM
Quote from: BNH2004 on August 15, 2024, 10:45:24 PMWhat is it getting repaired on it
RTC damage
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wba_lad on August 16, 2024, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 16, 2024, 11:26:05 AMWould probably still need a half roof or repair and modifying before NX sold it on as no doubt it has been declared a write off so all the Paperwork and it's Sorn status would have to be sorted. NX wouldn't run Open Top Buses.
Wouldn't necessarily need a roof putting back on, some companies run buses with a complete open top, Skegness I know run them with half open they used the E400 hybrids, it's a shame something couldn't be done to its 4959 and yeah unfortunately Nx won't operate open top buses, but would of been a good idea for a Birmingham tour bus or something. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on August 16, 2024, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 16, 2024, 12:05:16 PMWouldn't necessarily need a roof putting back on, some companies run buses with a complete open top, Skegness I know run them with half open they used the E400 hybrids, it's a shame something couldn't be done to its 4959 and yeah unfortunately Nx won't operate open top buses, but would of been a good idea for a Birmingham tour bus or something.
NX/TWM had two open top buses for private hire (2028/2938??)and did very little work (arguably 2028 was a bag of nails). Any company that has specialist assets needs to make them work - a bus stood still is a bus not earning, which is next to useless, unless you move into niche private hire work (like Green BUs did with their convertible open topper).
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on August 16, 2024, 01:33:53 PM
Quote from: Wba_lad on August 16, 2024, 12:05:16 PMWouldn't necessarily need a roof putting back on, some companies run buses with a complete open top, Skegness I know run them with half open they used the E400 hybrids, it's a shame something couldn't be done to its 4959 and yeah unfortunately Nx won't operate open top buses, but would of been a good idea for a Birmingham tour bus or something.
Yes but for Birmingham you could operate a Hybrid Roof on Roof off and would need a roof. Either because of the sun or Rain. We are quite far inland so have a mixture of both 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Squiz1971 on August 17, 2024, 04:59:53 PM
Quote from: Wumpty on August 16, 2024, 12:23:59 PMNX/TWM had two open top buses for private hire (2028/2938??)and did very little work (arguably 2028 was a bag of nails). Any company that has specialist assets needs to make them work - a bus stood still is a bus not earning, which is next to useless, unless you move into niche private hire work (like Green BUs did with their convertible open topper).
It was 2939 that became the open top Mk2 Metrobus @Wumpty as I believe 2938 has been preserved complete with roof  :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Wumpty on August 19, 2024, 10:28:23 PM
Quote from: Squiz1971 on August 17, 2024, 04:59:53 PMIt was 2939 that became the open top Mk2 Metrobus @Wumpty as I believe 2938 has been preserved complete with roof  :grin: :grin:
Cheers @Squiz1971 - couldn't remember the last number - senior moment!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on September 02, 2024, 01:43:39 PM
I take it looking on bustimes that the 7/10 services no longer interact with each other.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on September 11, 2024, 10:41:22 PM
Taking in to consideration that Walsall garage now has 8 tridents I was surprised to see two Scania single deckers on the X51 today. I would have thought there would have been enough double deckers now to cover routes like that.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 11, 2024, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: PB50 on September 11, 2024, 10:41:22 PMTaking in to consideration that Walsall garage now has 8 tridents I was surprised to see two Scania single deckers on the X51 today. I would have thought there would have been enough double deckers now to cover routes like that.
These are also Euro 6 so are allowed into City. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on September 12, 2024, 04:30:48 PM
Nice to see 4631 on a peak 997 as my ride home
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on September 27, 2024, 02:29:08 PM
Saw 2136 being towed at The Bell towards city wonder where it's going.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on October 07, 2024, 08:19:10 AM
What's happening with 4628/31/32 which transferred from Wolverhampton as I've not seen them out recently. Also haven't seen 3303 for long time and 4125 hasn't been out too.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 07, 2024, 09:20:08 AM
Quote from: PB50 on October 07, 2024, 08:19:10 AMWhat's happening with 4628/31/32 which transferred from Wolverhampton as I've not seen them out recently. Also haven't seen 3303 for long time and 4125 hasn't been out too.
Buses need maintenance, especially older ones, and sometimes older parts are more difficult to get.

Loads of buses spend time off the road
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on October 10, 2024, 04:24:33 PM
4595 and 4599 both on X51.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on October 10, 2024, 08:06:22 PM
Nice to see these out so as they can keep the white elephants safely tucked up in the garage getting flats on the tyres, must be the most environmentally friendly buses ever built, don't use any fuel, don't produce brake dust, don't leave any rubber on the road, never use any water as never need cleaning
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on October 11, 2024, 08:39:23 AM
Quote from: Mayfield on October 10, 2024, 08:06:22 PMNice to see these out so as they can keep the white elephants safely tucked up in the garage getting flats on the tyres, must be the most environmentally friendly buses ever built, don't use any fuel, don't produce brake dust, don't leave any rubber on the road, never use any water as never need cleaning
What d'ya mean? They need meticulously polishing every day.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on October 11, 2024, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: Mayfield on October 10, 2024, 08:06:22 PMNice to see these out so as they can keep the white elephants safely tucked up in the garage getting flats on the tyres, must be the most environmentally friendly buses ever built, don't use any fuel, don't produce brake dust, don't leave any rubber on the road, never use any water as never need cleaning
Who's fault do you think that is ?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on October 11, 2024, 09:31:57 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on October 11, 2024, 09:34:20 AMWho's fault do you think that is ?
So who's fault is it now then, fuel station is working but only manage to get 4/5 out each day
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on October 11, 2024, 10:53:39 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on October 11, 2024, 09:31:57 PMSo who's fault is it now then, fuel station is working but only manage to get 4/5 out each day
The point is that it is not the fault of NX is it ?
They are owned by Birmingham City Council which is surely where the responsibility of them lies, but the continued bashing of them is not necessary. 
I'm sure NX would love to run them 7 days, but they can't so that's it!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on October 12, 2024, 08:40:03 AM
So why can't they run 20 X 7 days a week, that's the problem with this country CAN'T is used as the easy option to often
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 12, 2024, 08:54:56 AM
Quote from: Mayfield on October 12, 2024, 08:40:03 AMSo why can't they run 20 X 7 days a week, that's the problem with this country CAN'T is used as the easy option to often
You'll never run 20 7 days a week, even perfectly reliable buses need maintenance and inspections.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on October 12, 2024, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2024, 08:54:56 AMYou'll never run 20 7 days a week, even perfectly reliable buses need maintenance and inspections.
Whilst that's a perfectly valid response to the question posed, everyone here knows what was being asked or implied.
Someone earlier referred to them as white elephants. They're not only that, but seemingly they're also white elephants in the room.
'Nobody mention the war!'
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on October 12, 2024, 09:45:54 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 12, 2024, 08:54:56 AMYou'll never run 20 7 days a week, even perfectly reliable buses need maintenance and inspections.
My comment is tongue in cheek sarcasm but running 17 might be something to aim for
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on October 13, 2024, 10:07:43 PM
Unusual to see double deckers being used on a Sunday on the 10 service to Brownhills.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on October 21, 2024, 11:50:18 AM
Just saw a trident heading up to Walsall garage. Didn't catch the number though. Is this coming to Walsall garage for service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on October 21, 2024, 12:36:21 PM
Quote from: PB50 on October 21, 2024, 11:50:18 AMJust saw a trident heading up to Walsall garage. Didn't catch the number though. Is this coming to Walsall garage for service?
Probably one of Walsall's
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on October 21, 2024, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2024, 12:36:21 PMProbably one of Walsall's
Oh ok. Thank you.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Mayfield on November 06, 2024, 09:42:44 AM
Have 3301-5 every all been in service at the same time since transfer to Walsall, they seem mega unreliable 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2024, 10:33:29 AM
Quote from: Mayfield on November 06, 2024, 09:42:44 AMHave 3301-5 every all been in service at the same time since transfer to Walsall, they seem mega unreliable
Yes they have, and no they are not.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on November 06, 2024, 03:50:02 PM
Quote from: Mayfield on November 06, 2024, 09:42:44 AMHave 3301-5 every all been in service at the same time since transfer to Walsall, they seem mega unreliable
I've seen it happen but it's a rarity when it does. I don't think it's happened this year yet but I could be wrong especially when 2 don't track.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 06, 2024, 04:17:38 PM
Quote from: PB50 on November 06, 2024, 03:50:02 PMI've seen it happen but it's a rarity when it does. I don't think it's happened this year yet but I could be wrong especially when 2 don't track.
The reason isn't so much unreliability it's when parts are required NX haven't got a parts contract for them so have to order and wait for delivery. Whereas they pay AD a lot of money per month to have next day delivery for a lot of routine parts at no extra cost
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 08, 2024, 04:51:12 PM
Just drove past Six Ways Walsall and there seemed to be an issue involving the revenue inspectors and a passenger onboard the X51 waiting there. Police were present.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ingleboro261F on November 08, 2024, 05:15:52 PM
Quote from: West_Brom/WalsallBusGeek on November 08, 2024, 04:51:12 PMJust drove past Six Ways Walsall and there seemed to be an issue involving the revenue inspectors and a passenger onboard the X51 waiting there. Police were present.
It's Walsall, what do you expect?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 08, 2024, 05:41:23 PM
Quote from: Ingleboro261F on November 08, 2024, 05:15:52 PMIt's Walsall, what do you expect?
What sort of comment is that?

Everyone perfect where you live?

The police are with revenue regularly 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ingleboro261F on November 08, 2024, 06:45:51 PM
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2024, 05:41:23 PMWhat sort of comment is that?

Everyone perfect where you live?

The police are with revenue regularly
Sorry, didn't mean to offend anyone who lives there
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on November 13, 2024, 03:07:01 PM
4984 on loan to WA on 51 today 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: twm1990s on November 15, 2024, 06:23:16 PM
1849 no longer route branded 4/4M
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on November 27, 2024, 02:23:16 PM
A start has been made on debranding Walsall's platinums today
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on December 02, 2024, 02:34:48 PM
Just heard a couple of drivers in Walsall bus station talking about how they are inheriting WN 69 and potentially losing the 41 just wondering if anyone could clarify if it's factual or just rumours many thanks
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 02, 2024, 03:00:09 PM
Quote from: WalsallBuses2007 on December 02, 2024, 02:34:48 PMJust heard a couple of drivers in Walsall bus station talking about how they are inheriting WN 69 and potentially losing the 41 just wondering if anyone could clarify if it's factual or just rumours many thanks
Who would the 41 go to, unlike the 69 I believe all of it's journeys terminate at their terminus of Willenhall and Walsall, would Wolverhampton the only logical Garage be able to incorporate it into there routes and rota. The 41 of an evening works with the 6 and 37 and of a day interworks with the 8, the 69 could be put back onto the Beechdale rota easily, WA have operated the 69 in the past, but the 41 has always been WA's Route so I would be surprised if that is being lost 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on December 02, 2024, 03:06:01 PM
Would Walsall keep the Sunday 69's, as they were only added when Wolves took over the route & to replace half of the 70 journeys withdrawn?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 02, 2024, 06:16:03 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 02, 2024, 03:06:01 PMWould Walsall keep the Sunday 69's, as they were only added when Wolves took over the route & to replace half of the 70 journeys withdrawn?
Could do make a half hour service between Walsall and Beechdale 69 and 70 every hour, 70 can take over the night.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on December 04, 2024, 08:19:31 AM
Does anybody know if this information is true or not yet about Walsall taking back the 69 and giving away the 41 service?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on December 04, 2024, 10:45:50 AM
Sounds like a load of rubbish 41 going to Wolverhampton

6741 6750 De-branded

Most of city Platinum 997/X51 debranded
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on December 04, 2024, 03:10:49 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on December 04, 2024, 10:45:50 AMSounds like a load of rubbish 41 going to Wolverhampton

6741 6750 De-branded

Most of city Platinum 997/X51 debranded
It's more likely if anything in this is true, that WA gain the 69 and WN gain another route in return could be to do with January Changes or could be an existing NX route. The 41 has always been a Walsall route, I could understand if the 40 still ran if WN took that with Walsall running the last duties to Willenhall. However the 41 makes no sense as Walsall interwork it with the 8 and of an evening the 6/7 and 37 and on Sundays I think it interworks with the same routes all day. The 69 I can see being interworked with the 70/70A and then retimed to give Beechdale a bus more often. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 08:23:31 AM
Unusual to see 5 double decker buses on the 29 service this morning  :smiley:
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 06, 2025, 08:58:48 AM
Quote from: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 08:23:31 AMUnusual to see 5 double decker buses on the 29 service this morning  :smiley:
One of those being 3304, I noticed.

In fact I saw an Enviro 400 on the 70a as well.

I guess that is still interworked with the 29 as well?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on January 06, 2025, 10:19:15 AM
Quote from: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 08:23:31 AMUnusual to see 5 double decker buses on the 29 service this morning  :smiley:
Temporary allocation while the 6 has single deckers due to diversion. 

Also 4599/4628 on 31/32.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 10:55:02 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 06, 2025, 08:58:48 AMOne of those being 3304, I noticed.

In fact I saw an Enviro 400 on the 70a as well.

I guess that is still interworked with the 29 as well?
3304 didn't last very long in service from what bustimes is showing.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 06, 2025, 11:02:30 AM
Quote from: Westy on January 06, 2025, 08:58:48 AMOne of those being 3304, I noticed.

In fact I saw an Enviro 400 on the 70a as well.

I guess that is still interworked with the 29 as well?
Yes it does 29 and 70A interwork
Also 70 and 70A are on Diversion from Leamore Lane due to Flooding I believe from a Burst Water Main
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 06, 2025, 11:30:23 AM
Anyone know what 1840 is doing at the moment?

Seems to be on a long diversion, unless he's broken down & going back to garage?

(According to Bustimes!)

Interesting diversion for the 70 / 70a.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 06, 2025, 02:45:59 PM
Quote from: Westy on January 06, 2025, 11:30:23 AMAnyone know what 1840 is doing at the moment?

Seems to be on a long diversion, unless he's broken down & going back to garage?

(According to Bustimes!)

Interesting diversion for the 70 / 70a.
Was I believe on the Darlaston corridor I assume either it got stuck maybe on one of the Estates and by the time it was freed it had Lost Time or broke down, it looks like it came straight from Bilston after doing a 34
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on January 06, 2025, 02:52:03 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 06, 2025, 02:45:59 PMWas I believe on the Darlaston corridor I assume either it got stuck maybe on one of the Estates and by the time it was freed it had Lost Time or broke down, it looks like it came straight from Bilston after doing a 34
You are just guessing
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 02:53:31 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on January 06, 2025, 10:19:15 AMTemporary allocation while the 6 has single deckers due to diversion.

Also 4599/4628 on 31/32.
I wouldn't have thought that was the only reason because they only use up to 4 buses on the 6 service.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on January 06, 2025, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 10:55:02 AM3304 didn't last very long in service from what bustimes is showing.
3304 did the afternoon 159 journey, as I saw it in Bloxwich.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on January 06, 2025, 07:36:46 PM
Quote from: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 02:53:31 PMI wouldn't have thought that was the only reason because they only use up to 4 buses on the 6 service.
The 6 actually has 8 running boards plus several 10 boards also have 6 workings on it. 

On Saturday there are 2 6 boards plus a 78 board. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 08:08:05 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on January 06, 2025, 07:36:46 PMThe 6 actually has 8 running boards plus several 10 boards also have 6 workings on it.

On Saturday there are 2 6 boards plus a 78 board.
7's also have some 6 boards on it too. How long the diversion on for?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on January 06, 2025, 08:17:16 PM
A further 6/7 weeks been diverted before Christmas. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 06, 2025, 10:45:01 PM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on January 06, 2025, 08:17:16 PMA further 6/7 weeks been diverted before Christmas.
Oh I see. Obviously over Christmas they didn't need to use double deckers on the Bloxwich routes. Must admit though 29 service is normally an E200 bus so I wouldn't have thought they would need to use many double deckers on that route. Will look tomorrow to see how many are out on those routes again.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Bus_user_jay on January 07, 2025, 12:19:46 AM
Does WA operate all of the 4H services now? Or are there still shorts in Halesowen operated by PN? Also why does this service not track on bus times in the day?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 07, 2025, 01:48:02 PM
Quote from: Bus_user_jay on January 07, 2025, 12:19:46 AMDoes WA operate all of the 4H services now? Or are there still shorts in Halesowen operated by PN? Also why does this service not track on bus times in the day?
NX Don't run the 4H during the Day, Diamond run it, Diamond also run a few journeys on the 4 but NX mostly operate the 4 Blackheath/West Brom and 4M Merry Hill, NX do run the Evening shorts from PN between Halesowen and Hayley Green
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on January 07, 2025, 02:01:34 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 07, 2025, 01:48:02 PMNX do run the Evening shorts from PN between Halesowen and Hayley Green
Evenings and Sundays are ran from Walsall
The timetable was changed from the 5th.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 07, 2025, 06:07:46 PM
Quote from: 2206 on January 07, 2025, 02:01:34 PMEvenings and Sundays are ran from Walsall
The timetable was changed from the 5th.
Oh so the full 4H is now ran of evenings and on Sunday's 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Steve3229vp on January 08, 2025, 09:35:35 AM
The new stop for the 907/33/51/X51 Opposite the Square Peg is going to a big problem judging by last night. There is an unloading stop for the 934 etc which is fine but Walsall drivers just sit there with Not In Service on the front, there's not enough room. There was 4 buses at 1640 yesterday. They need to be told to move away as soon as they have unloaded.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 08, 2025, 12:04:45 PM
Quote from: Steve3229vp on January 08, 2025, 09:35:35 AMThe new stop for the 907/33/51/X51 Opposite the Square Peg is going to a big problem judging by last night. There is an unloading stop for the 934 etc which is fine but Walsall drivers just sit there with Not In Service on the front, there's not enough room. There was 4 buses at 1640 yesterday. They need to be told to move away as soon as they have unloaded.
It's all confusing, plenty of passengers trying to board the limited stop services there when they actually load up on Albert Street. Not sure why they just have their set down on Albert Street as that is a massive bay for them.

Drivers seem to be confused too, the 33's keep on picking up on Albert Street as well. Not sure why both services can't use both stops. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on January 09, 2025, 08:06:24 AM
Quote from: Lynx1103 on January 06, 2025, 08:17:16 PMA further 6/7 weeks been diverted before Christmas.
Looks like the 6 service has gone back to normal route as double decker are back on it.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 13, 2025, 03:25:44 PM
How long are the Roadworks on the Darlaston Road in Pleck going to be on for it's causing delays for the 34, 37 and 39
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: karl724223 on January 13, 2025, 03:37:57 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 13, 2025, 03:25:44 PMHow long are the Roadworks on the Darlaston Road in Pleck going to be on for it's causing delays for the 34, 37 and 39
Why don't you ask the workmen
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: ellspurs on January 13, 2025, 03:42:22 PM
January 16 at 11:59pm according to the work order.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 13, 2025, 05:06:59 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on January 13, 2025, 03:37:57 PMWhy don't you ask the workmen
I didn't see any to ask and I was on the bus
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 13, 2025, 07:18:35 PM
@MSU2008, Omnilinks and B7RLE's are a common occurrence on the Bham services especially during the peak.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on January 13, 2025, 07:25:21 PM
Quote from: Jack on January 13, 2025, 07:18:35 PM@MSU2008, Omnilinks and B7RLE's are a common occurrence on the Bham services especially during the peak.
Noteworthy workings originally was about vehicles that were not the allocated type. They're not the allocated type. Therefore 'noteworthy'.
I'm surprised that this pointless thread still is going. 

Any real noteworthy workings could be mentioned in the garage threads, especially as for some bizarre reason we have to answer the noteworthy postings in the garage threads anyway. Just makes everything messy.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Jack on January 13, 2025, 08:11:40 PM
Quote from: Gareth on January 13, 2025, 07:25:21 PMNoteworthy workings originally was about vehicles that were not the allocated type. They're not the allocated type. Therefore 'noteworthy'.
I'm surprised that this pointless thread still is going.

Any real noteworthy workings could be mentioned in the garage threads, especially as for some bizarre reason we have to answer the noteworthy postings in the garage threads anyway. Just makes everything messy.
I agree, since Covid 2020 buses are used where and when needed. And with bustimes it's all died down. That thread and the route branded buses is just as pointless as i bet 95% of those who post on it use bustimes.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: WalsallBuses2007 on January 15, 2025, 01:32:19 PM
Driver of 854 on the 13:07 29 just gave us a nice tour of the Walsall garage as he missed the turn off to go up to Coalpool so went into the garage itself to turn around I'd be surprised if this has ever happened before
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on January 17, 2025, 12:56:06 PM
Quote from: PB50 on January 09, 2025, 08:06:24 AMLooks like the 6 service has gone back to normal route as double decker are back on it.
The 6 was single deck due to using Hardwick Road low trees diversion is now Rosemary hill Road little Aston lane. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on January 26, 2025, 02:37:35 PM
Going to be delays on the 37 and possibly 34 this week due to two sets of temporary traffic lights and Roadworks the first being on the Green in-between the 34 turn off for Rough Hay Road and before/maybe just after the Why Not Pub, I can see this at busy times backing up and a 34 being snarled up in it, the 37 will mostly be affected, the 2nd set is on The Green at the Junction with Bentley Road South where the 37 turns to Bentley again at busy times I can see this being a snarl up, the Darlaston Buses had only just started to return to normal after the Walsall Road Roadworks and are now going to be Late again and I think there is Roadworks on the 39 route on Pinfold Street/Moxley Road and possibly in Bilston to. 
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tridentobt on February 09, 2025, 09:54:16 AM
Y-reg trident drives on a Sunday for the first time in ages
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 09, 2025, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: Tridentobt on February 09, 2025, 09:54:16 AMY-reg trident drives on a Sunday for the first time in ages
4125?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tridentobt on February 09, 2025, 12:25:41 PM
Yes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on February 23, 2025, 03:00:13 PM
I've noticed today that buses between 4863-4870 are being used on various routes. Is that because of platinum buses being debranded?
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 23, 2025, 04:55:53 PM
Quote from: PB50 on February 23, 2025, 03:00:13 PMI've noticed today that buses between 4863-4870 are being used on various routes. Is that because of platinum buses being debranded?
Walsall haven't got any platinums to debrand.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: PB50 on February 23, 2025, 05:20:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 23, 2025, 04:55:53 PMWalsall haven't got any platinums to debrand.
Oh ok thank you.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 24, 2025, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: PB50 on February 23, 2025, 03:00:13 PMI've noticed today that buses between 4863-4870 are being used on various routes. Is that because of platinum buses being debranded?
They are used now as the no fixed allocation Buses they used to be used on the 51 and X51 then the X51 received Platty's so they were primarily used on the 51 repainted and rebranded back into the 51 until they were debranded when the Hydrogen's arrived, also I think an E400 did an X51 To Cannock Board and were used on the Short X51's to if a Platty was unavailable, the Platty's were then put on the 51 and so these are now used on any WA Route that needs DD's or has a DD Board. The Platty's tend to stick to the Birmingham Routes so X51, 51, 934/35/36/37/37A, 997 as well as being used as back up on other DD Routes
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Tony on February 24, 2025, 02:01:53 PM
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 24, 2025, 01:41:09 PMThey are used now as the no fixed allocation Buses they used to be used on the 51 and X51 then the X51 received Platty's so they were primarily used on the 51 repainted and rebranded back into the 51 until they were debranded when the Hydrogen's arrived, also I think an E400 did an X51 To Cannock Board and were used on the Short X51's to if a Platty was unavailable, the Platty's were then put on the 51 and so these are now used on any WA Route that needs DD's or has a DD Board. The Platty's tend to stick to the Birmingham Routes so X51, 51, 934/35/36/37/37A, 997 as well as being used as back up on other DD Routes
The point being made was they are not normally out on Sundays
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: 2206 on February 27, 2025, 12:36:22 AM
4597 was on the X51 tonight.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Gareth on February 27, 2025, 11:24:14 AM
Quote from: 2206 on February 27, 2025, 12:36:22 AM4597 was on the X51 tonight.
I saw it too. A paint job from 15 years ago, full dark TWM blue seating and even the small connector bars fleetname. Can't recall the last time I saw one of those! Can't be many left!
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Ronnoc on February 27, 2025, 01:31:02 PM
Quote from: Gareth on February 27, 2025, 11:24:14 AMI saw it too. A paint job from 15 years ago, full dark TWM blue seating and even the small connector bars fleetname. Can't recall the last time I saw one of those! Can't be many left!
Only other one is 4586.
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Lynx1103 on February 27, 2025, 04:16:01 PM
Scania fire at Bilston services 39

Possibly 1845
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: BlackCountryBusSpotter on February 27, 2025, 06:02:25 PM
It was 1842 1845 became stuck on the 39 in the opposite direction, Was Arson
Title: Re: Walsall Garage
Post by: Westy on February 28, 2025, 06:59:16 AM
Quote from: Gareth on February 27, 2025, 11:24:14 AMI saw it too. A paint job from 15 years ago, full dark TWM blue seating and even the small connector bars fleetname. Can't recall the last time I saw one of those! Can't be many left!
Just spotted it in Walsall on the 10.

Why does the fleetname in the positions applied always look off centre?

Sure it wasnt the only one back in the day!
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