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Title: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: winston on December 11, 2017, 12:20:59 PM
PD0000478/344 Cancelled
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Walsall Bus Station to Lichfield Bus Station
Service number: 35 (35A, X35)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2018

PD0000478/15 Cancelled
ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD
Route: Tamworth, Corporation Street to Birmingham Upper Bull Street via Kingsbury, Hurley
Service number: 115 (116)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 03 Feb 2018

Interesting that Arriva have now cancelled their 35 / X35 that Central Buses have registered on from 7th Jan, whilst Central Buses have cancelled their X55.....
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Westy on December 11, 2017, 12:31:42 PM
How many operators on the Walsall to Lichfield corridor since deregulation?
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Lukeee on December 11, 2017, 09:58:51 PM
Quote from: Westy on December 11, 2017, 12:31:42 PM
How many operators on the Walsall to Lichfield corridor since deregulation?

Ones that spring to mind are NXWM, Arriva midlands, Midland, Travel A2Z, Midland rider and Central buses
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: the trainbasher on December 11, 2017, 10:40:47 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on December 11, 2017, 09:58:51 PM
Ones that spring to mind are NXWM, Arriva midlands, Midland, Travel A2Z, Midland rider and Central buses

Don't forget our friends at Heartlands/Tamworth B&C/whatever Mike James decided to call hmself...
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Kevin on January 02, 2018, 02:08:16 PM
Can someone confirm that it is 3rd Feb that the 35 is ending? Because then there's going to be a few weeks of them and Central Buses running together
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: winston on January 02, 2018, 02:18:15 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 02, 2018, 02:08:16 PM
Can someone confirm that it is 3rd Feb that the 35 is ending? Because then there's going to be a few weeks of them and Central Buses running together

The VOSA registrations I posted is at the top of this thread.
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Cheese on January 02, 2018, 04:37:15 PM
Quote from: Winston on January 02, 2018, 02:18:15 PM
The VOSA registrations I posted is at the top of this thread.

Having had access to both registrations it is indeed Feb 3rd for the Arriva end date, for some reason they didn't get the dates matched up with that one... or the 15 and 115 for that matter.
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Mike S on January 02, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
this means Piccadilly will no longer have a service?
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Kevin on January 02, 2018, 08:37:25 PM
Quote from: Mike S on January 02, 2018, 08:34:01 PM
this means Piccadilly will no longer have a service?

Stagecoach 766. Some journeys a day go round that way
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on January 03, 2018, 05:50:28 PM
Seems like quite a reduction on the Walsall - Lichfield corridor from 3/2...
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Steveminor on January 04, 2018, 01:19:10 PM
Seems about the right level to me
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Other Walsall Tony on January 05, 2018, 07:56:32 AM
So hard luck to the residents of, for example, Sandhills and anyone wanting a day out in Lichfield?
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Kevin on January 05, 2018, 08:17:13 AM
Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on January 05, 2018, 07:56:32 AM
So hard luck to the residents of, for example, Sandhills and anyone wanting a day out in Lichfield?

Tbf anyone wanting a day out in Lichfield still has a decent day out looking at the times

Quote from: Other Walsall Tony on January 03, 2018, 05:50:28 PM
Seems like quite a reduction on the Walsall - Lichfield corridor from 3/2...

Not massively, still generally hourly, just perhaps a few less journeys
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Cheese on January 05, 2018, 12:11:49 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 05, 2018, 08:17:13 AM
Tbf anyone wanting a day out in Lichfield still has a decent day out looking at the times

Not massively, still generally hourly, just perhaps a few less journeys

Was only hourly if I recall when TWM ran the 991 so never really been a high frequency anyway, 1 per hour seems more than adequate plus the 35B round the villages. Looking at the times from 3rd Feb when Central start running all the 35/35A journeys the timetable is broadly similar to the existing Arriva 35/35A.
Title: Re: Service changes 3rd Feb 2018
Post by: Walsall1955 on January 05, 2018, 01:46:34 PM
Quote from: Cheese on January 05, 2018, 12:11:49 PM
Was only hourly if I recall when TWM ran the 991 so never really been a high frequency anyway, 1 per hour seems more than adequate plus the 35B round the villages. Looking at the times from 3rd Feb when Central start running all the 35/35A journeys the timetable is broadly similar to the existing Arriva 35/35A.

Service 901 was a reintroduction of a fast direct service between Lichfield and Walsall prior to deregulation - pre-deregulation the frequency was every 2 hours.   I expect that this reintroduction was prompted by a perceived risk of other operators doing something similar.

At deregulation the frequency was increased to every 30 minutes and extended, via Lichfield estates (omitting Lichfield bus station) to Birmingham via Sutton Coldfield.   
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5412015574/

The 381 (via the villages) service became a regular hourly frequency in 1986, so 381/901 provided a combined 3 buses per hour end to end:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5666650796/in/photolist-YodXM2-LpPjRe-mj4Tv6-dTyRGb-bQzxoZ-bxpnVm-br621K-bn7Bkt-ej2J8Q-a8bQR6-9CK4RN-9no9tm-9feZFm-8tYw4u-8g4SNT-88MAk6-869qqJ-869qqy-85jYaL-7ZRMug-7ZCpvS-9vkTek-7Zz2pz-bv94Fs-bv94Fm

Various cutbacks followed culminating in WMT quitting the 901/ 991 altogether in November 2007, but not before an interlude of Petes Travel competing with WMT for while.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4843252000/