National Express will be operating a new 35 service between Walsall and Aldridge.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/509069/
Quote from: 2206 on September 01, 2017, 05:07:07 PM
National Express will be operating a new 35 service between Walsall and Aldridge.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/509069/
It is a tendered service they have won off Arriva Midlands
So whats happening to the rest of the 35 then?
I guess I was right in asking in the one Arriva thread whether Tamworth would hang onto certain journeys in the long run!
NXWM are operating the 35 on Sundays only interworking with the 77 they have also won on Sundays.
WA70 daily Evenings will also return to NXWM end of October.
Wonder if Councillor Worrall is still paying for the service out of his allowance?
Does the 35 get any closer to Aston Manor than the 7 / 7a?
Quote from: Westy on September 02, 2017, 07:03:03 PM
Wonder if Councillor Worrall is still paying for the service out of his allowance?
Does the 35 get any closer to Aston Manor than the 7 / 7a?
The Sunday 35 will serve between Walsall and Aldridge. Unfortunately, it's a no to your question. If it was going to Lichfield, it would carry on from Aldridge, turn left to Walsall Wood Road and carry on straight to Walton Road. If it was coming back from Lichfield, it would turn right to Leighswood Avenue from Walsall Wood Road.
You'd be better off catching the 7 from Walsall and get off by Leighswood Avenue as usual.
Service changes 15/10/17- 96 (Some Journeys withdrawn)
47A (Withdrawn)
35 (NEW: Sunday Services only!)
If theres others I missed out put it on here.
Quote from: Jack D on September 06, 2017, 07:49:23 PM
Service changes 15/10/17- 96 (Some Journeys withdrawn)
47A (Withdrawn)
35 (NEW: Sunday Services only!)
No, these changes are not happening on October 15th, they're happening on October 22nd.
The 35 (Sundays) and 77 (Sundays) are tendered services won of Arriva Midlands.
The 96, it is just early morning, evening and Sunday journeys being withdrawn.
47/A, are being combined into one route.
From the same date:
There is a Sunday service introduced on WN's 69 service and the Sunday service on the 255 is withdrawn.
Is that the full 69 route ?
Wow, I really don't understand the daytime withdrawal of the 255, there is an opportunity for Diamond or IGO here. 1 hour route between 2 shopping destinations, reliability i feel has had an effect on the passenger numbers. Will be even more of a joke if the evening 255 remains which carries fresh air.
To perspective operators;
No Link from Penn, Wombourne, Wall Heath, parts of Kingswinford to Merry Hill on Sun 24th December, 26th December, or 27th December as 27th will be A BHol in lieu of 25th. Opportunity?
Well that's great looks like I'm getting the 226 day time Sundays to merry hill to be honest the day time 255 picks up a fair few passengers.
Saying that diamond could pick this up
@Simon Dunn please :)
Quote from: Westy on September 06, 2017, 10:32:37 PM
Is that the full 69 route ?
Walsall to Wolverhampton via Beechdale, New Invention and Wednesfield
Is the 255 commercially operated Sunday daytime?
Quote from: Chris on September 07, 2017, 08:40:12 AM
Is the 255 commercially operated Sunday daytime?
It is until 22 October. A variation on the route (255A?) will be tendered from that date.
From 22nd October there will be a 9N run on weekends possibly only to Halesowen
Quote from: karl724223 on September 15, 2017, 06:49:55 PM
From 22nd October there will be a 9N run on weekends possibly only to Halesowen
Only to Halesown.
The timetable is on Traveline WM -
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=33009&sup=N&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_64791177&lineVer=13&itdLPxx_spTr=13&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=NXB
Will there be any more routes to go 24/7?
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 18, 2017, 06:45:43 AM
Will there be any more routes to go 24/7?
Purely on a selfish note I hope so, fed up of paying for taxis
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 18, 2017, 06:45:43 AM
Will there be any more routes to go 24/7?
I'm hoping the 87 could be soon. Especially with the introduction of the 01:03 departure from town
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 18, 2017, 06:45:43 AM
Will there be any more routes to go 24/7?
I think the 51 should, but run by Omnilinks and Urban 2's for no trouble.
Quote from: 2206 on September 15, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
Only to Halesown.
The timetable is on Traveline WM -
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=33009&sup=N&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_64791177&lineVer=13&itdLPxx_spTr=13&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=NXB
Typical, only to Halesowen, NE not bothered about people who live in places like Stourbridge, Dudley, Wolverhampton.
And then we have this Velo Cyclist thing happening this weekend, roads blocked, cars, buses etc diverted so a load of idiots can cycle around.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 06:55:36 PM
Typical, only to Halesowen, NE not bothered about people who live in places like Stourbridge, Dudley, Wolverhampton.
And then we have this Velo Cyclist thing happening this weekend, roads blocked, cars, buses etc diverted so a load of idiots can cycle around.
What are you complaining about? The 9 is getting a new 24/7 service, which is good to see what's there to complain about? Its not NX only bothering about Birmingham, lots of areas and routes in Birmingham don't have 24/7 services, Solihull doesn't have a 24/7 service either, so no it's not NX not being bothered about people in Stourbridge, Dudley and Wolvehampton. How do you know there's the demand for a full service to Stourbridge?
"NX aren't bothered about people living in, Stourbridge and Dudley"? Stourbridge and Dudley have a low fare zone!
Not really
idiots either.
Quote from: 2206 on September 18, 2017, 07:06:06 PM
What are you complaining about? The 9 is getting a new 24/7 service, which is good to see what's there to complain about? Its not NX only bothering about Birmingham, lots of areas and routes in Birmingham don't have 24/7 services. How do you know there's the demand for a full service to Stourbridge?
Not really idiots either
Sorry disagree with you on both counts.
Firstly how do you know there is a demand for a service to Halesowen? If you running it to Halesowen then why not Stourbridge??
Secondly this bike ride has been organised without a thought for anyone else. Roads blocked everywhere with parking restrictions, so what about my dads carers who need to visit not just him but other people as well. They have already looked at the roads they need to use and it is going to cause them a massive inconvenience as well as the people they care for.
People on bikes seem to think they own the road and can do anything they please, what they don't realise is that they inconvenience a lot of people, but then again they couldn't care a damn as we have seen today with the guy going to prison for the death of that innocent woman.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
Sorry disagree with you on both counts.
Firstly how do you know there is a demand for a service to Halesowen? If you running it to Halesowen then why not Stourbridge??
Because if you run to Stourbridge you need twice the resource, so twice the cost, so twice as many passengers needed, so more likely to fail. This will be run at a loss to start with to try and build up trade. If you think there is a commercial opportunity why has no other operator registered it
Quote from: bususer12 on September 06, 2017, 10:44:18 PM
Wow, I really don't understand the daytime withdrawal of the 255, there is an opportunity for Diamond or IGO here. 1 hour route between 2 shopping destinations, reliability i feel has had an effect on the passenger numbers. Will be even more of a joke if the evening 255 remains which carries fresh air.
To perspective operators;
No Link from Penn, Wombourne, Wall Heath, parts of Kingswinford to Merry Hill on Sun 24th December, 26th December, or 27th December as 27th will be A BHol in lieu of 25th. Opportunity?
??? Christmas Day is on a Monday this year.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 07:13:35 PM
Sorry disagree with you on both counts.
Firstly how do you know there is a demand for a service to Halesowen? If you running it to Halesowen then why not Stourbridge??
Secondly this bike ride has been organised without a thought for anyone else. Roads blocked everywhere with parking restrictions, so what about my dads carers who need to visit not just him but other people as well. They have already looked at the roads they need to use and it is going to cause them a massive inconvenience as well as the people they care for.
People on bikes seem to think they own the road and can do anything they please, what they don't realise is that they inconvenience a lot of people, but then again they couldn't care a damn as we have seen today with the guy going to prison for the death of that innocent woman.
I agree with you. People have jobs and places to be, no one expects to do long diversions causing delays.
You are right about cyclists, so annoying, they hog the whole lane, cause a tailback leading to more pollution and horrid air. They think they own the road! But seriously is someone taking the p*ss with this event or what?? ;)
I blame the idiot who organised this for delays.
Regarding the 9N, historically it has only run to Halesowen even back in the TWM vs Petes travel days.
When TWM pulled off & left Petes to themselves an extension to Stourbridge was tried. It was a total failure so I think NX are right not to go beyond Halesowen
Quote from: Steveminor on September 18, 2017, 07:51:49 PM
Regarding the 9N, historically it has only run to Halesowen even back in the TWM vs Petes travel days.
When TWM pulled off & left Petes to themselves an extension to Stourbridge was tried. It was a total failure so I think NX are right not to go beyond Halesowen
Yes but that was years ago, why not try it to Stourbridge and give it a reasonable go to see if it works.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 07:55:17 PM
Yes but that was years ago, why not try it to Stourbridge and give it a reasonable go to see if it works.
I've answered that the first time you asked
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2017, 07:57:38 PM
I've answered that the first time you asked
I don't remember asking
@Tony !
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 07:59:21 PM
I don't remember asking @Tony !
Just noticed your reply, but didn't notice it originally as it is incorrectly quoted.
So it has to be commercially viable for a night route to be operated, so there is virtually no chance of any more night routes. Very surprised that Wolverhampton (being a city) has never been given a night route.
Will be interesting to see in the future if Network West Midlands ever subsidise some night routes.
Quote from: Jack on September 18, 2017, 07:28:31 PM
I agree with you. People have jobs and places to be, no one expects to do long diversions causing delays.
You are right about cyclists, so annoying, they hog the whole lane, cause a tailback leading to more pollution and horrid air. They think they own the road! But seriously is someone taking the p*ss with this event or what?? ;)
I blame the idiot who organised this for delays.
They are pains in the backsides who deserve to shots on sight.
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 18, 2017, 08:46:50 PM
They are pains in the backsides who deserve to shots on sight.
Well it is ridiculous, for example the 9 will be non stop Stourbridge to Birmingham, the 276 will not serve Wollescote, Pedmore or Norton and if you decide to go from Stourbridge Junction to Birmingham on the train, only the Rufford Road car park will be open meaning if you are disabled you will have a very long work to the station.
I wonder who gave permisiion for this to happen?
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 08:53:32 PM
Well it is ridiculous, for example the 9 will be non stop Stourbridge to Birmingham, the 276 will not serve Wollescote, Pedmore or Norton and if you decide to go from Stourbridge Junction to Birmingham on the train, only the Rufford Road car park will be open meaning if you are disabled you will have a very long work to the station.
I wonder who gave permisiion for this to happen?
Its all organised by Birmingham Council.
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 18, 2017, 08:54:57 PM
Its all organised by Birmingham Council.
Well that says it all, lets hope the cyclists don't have any problem negotiating all the rubbish bags, and sorry but Dudley council are just as bad if they have allowed the streets to be used like this.
Let's just hope nobody looses there life through emergency vehicles having to take diversion routes??
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 08:57:52 PM
Well that says it all, lets hope the cyclists don't have any problem negotiating all the rubbish bags, and sorry but Dudley council are just as bad if they have allowed the streets to be used like this.
Let's just hope nobody looses there life through emergency vehicles having to take diversion routes??
I feel sorry for some of the villiages in Worcestershire. No access to them at all!
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 08:18:40 PM
Just noticed your reply, but didn't notice it originally as it is incorrectly quoted.
So it has to be commercially viable for a night route to be operated, so there is virtually no chance of any more night routes. Very surprised that Wolverhampton (being a city) has never been given a night route.
Will be interesting to see in the future if Network West Midlands ever subsidise some night routes.
Didnt Wolves have its own night network a few years back?
I remember the 51n timetable.
It was a half past 11 journey from Walsall to Bloxwich(which survives as the last 302 up to Lower Farm thesedays!), which returned from Bloxwich to Birmingham, then all the other journeys ran Brum to Walsall.
Did Walsall run it or Perry Barr?
At one time service 51N was operated by Midland Red West:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5532796949/in/photolist-r1Ytv8-dng1XQ-UngUGC-qmq7es-9qV2LR
There was proposed, in 1986, to operate Summer 1987 onwards, an all night service on 966 via Walsall to Wolverhampton.
In the event the proposed Summer time all night journeys were deleted before actually operated.
Some years prior to deregulation some night services for Walsall were once proposed, applcation was made to the Traffic Commissioners, but the application withdrawn following Taxi driver objections.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 18, 2017, 07:55:17 PM
Yes but that was years ago, why not try it to Stourbridge and give it a reasonable go to see if it works.
Even historically when a much larger night service network existed, all of the services were set up so they used just a single vehicle. That meant a lot of services finishing short of their daytime terminus - 9N, 12N, 45N and 63N being just a few examples. Clearly they're only just about commercially viable using just the one bus and that looks to have been the case for years.
Years back when WMT / TWN operated a network of Night Service am I remembering correctly that
1. the North bound night services 16N, 51N started from Five Ways Island
2. all Night services operated from the same depot?
Petes travel night network started with 2 services the 58n & the 5n which were subsidised alongside TWM commercial night network. This led to head to head competition for night buses & eventually TWM withdrew all Birmingham night services, however they kept a night service presence in Wolverhampton with doormen on the buses due to on bus incidents( which is why Petes weren't interested in Wolverhampton & why they were eventually withdrawn).
The Birmingham routes were operated as 1 bus per route to keep them profitable several different things were tried where more than one bus was on certain routes but these experiments failed to generate sufficient revenue to sustain them. Except for the 9N which at one point was busy enough to warrant a 15 minute service, however as I said before it never carried enough beyond Halesowen.
Quote from: Westy on September 18, 2017, 09:21:17 PM
Didnt Wolves have its own night network a few years back?
Yes I think they had the 901 / 902 / 903 / 904 & poss 256N. They ran Fri & Sat nights aimed at people coming back from a night out, I seem to remember they charged a flat fare & each bus carried a member of door staff.
Wasn't there a 22N at some point?
Quote from: MasterPlan on September 19, 2017, 07:02:33 AM
Wasn't there a 22N at some point?
Yes, used that a few times to get back to Harborne in the early 2000s. The 22N used to work off the late X20 which used to leave Stratford on a Friday/Sat night around half 11, back into Brum at around 12 then would do the 0100, 0200 and 0300 22N. Always the same driver (George I think it was) who was a bit of a legend!
There are also timetable changes on the 96 with certain early morning, evening and Sunday journeys withdrawn.
Quote from: Walsall1955 on September 18, 2017, 09:29:34 PM
At one time service 51N was operated by Midland Red West:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5532796949/in/photolist-r1Ytv8-dng1XQ-UngUGC-qmq7es-9qV2LR
There was proposed, in 1986, to operate Summer 1987 onwards, an all night service on 966 via Walsall to Wolverhampton.
In the event the proposed Summer time all night journeys were deleted before actually operated.
Some years prior to deregulation some night services for Walsall were once proposed, applcation was made to the Traffic Commissioners, but the application withdrawn following Taxi driver objections.
Never knew that!
Midland red west used to run all the night buses during the week I used to use the 914 to get home used to do 14 to c wood and return via part of 94 route taking in castle vale and back to city via fox and goose. In fact the whole network used to do crazy circular type routes from memory ie out town 37 route back via 6 and 2 route another example
Quote from: Cheese on September 19, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
Yes, used that a few times to get back to Harborne in the early 2000s. The 22N used to work off the late X20 which used to leave Stratford on a Friday/Sat night around half 11, back into Brum at around 12 then would do the 0100, 0200 and 0300 22N. Always the same driver (George I think it was) who was a bit of a legend!
I reckon that they could do it again. I've done the 1am 22 home a few times and you get some decent loadings to be honest. I don't know where some of them come from lol
If we're on the subject if night buses...
I remember Petes Travel running them, and also remember the night they suddenly stopped. Was coming back from a gig in London on the last train and waited over an hour for the 51N, only for a passing policeman to find out for us that it was no more.
I'm finding myself on that train on an annoyingly regular occurrence and I'm fed up of paying for a taxi, a few months ago I caught the 2 o'clock journey on the 74 and walked all the way from Handsworth to Scott Arms instead
The thing is, the majority of people that used the 74 and 97 when I caught them were pass holders, so surely in terms of revenue these services can't be making much at all. Even the current last journeys on 51 and X4 that I see in town aren't really that well patronised on any night of the week save maybe Saturdays, but then Saturday is the night people will stay out even later so 1am isn't late enough. I can wish for a service like what exists in London but I know full well that will never happen here
Kinda back to the original topic though, I would assume the 9 would have to avoid Broad Street on Friday and Saturday night journeys?
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-22nd-october-2017
Is the night bus on the 9 being run by Pensnett or Birmingham Central?
Quote from: Nathan on September 25, 2017, 07:07:00 PM
http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-22nd-october-2017
Interesting the comments about the 255, does this mean the change is not the result of tender loss?
Quote from: MW on September 25, 2017, 07:14:42 PM
Is the night bus on the 9 being run by Pensnett or Birmingham Central?
PN i think!
48A will follow the same route as the 48 between West Brom & Hurst Road Community Centre. St Paul's Road will lose a direct service, doesn't seem to be very well used.
The 9 is bascily nearly running 24 hours
Quote from: Jordan on September 25, 2017, 07:38:45 PM
The 9 is bascily nearly running 24 hours
Only weekends when it will be 24 hours, weekdays is as it has been.
Looks like a lot of business has been taken from Rotala then.
Any truth in the 126 being re-routed back to serve Colmore Row and will no longer serve the markets from 15th October ?
Quote from: TT90 on September 25, 2017, 10:58:22 PM
Any truth in the 126 being re-routed back to serve Colmore Row and will no longer serve the markets from 15th October ?
I hope not, or at least not missing out markets completely! But if so, that's quite a few buses that Wolverhampton would have to amend branding for. If it did happen, perhaps not the most ideal route, I'd like to see it follow the same route as what the 98/99/X64 did when they served Colmore Row a few years back:
ex. Colmore Row > Newhall Street >(turn right) Edmund Street > Livery Street > Lloyd House > Priory Queensway > Moor Street > resume normal route at Smallbrook Queensway
I'm led to believe the 126 route change is true although I can't see anything on the NXWM website as yet.
I'ts due to the road layout and changes happening at the bottom of broad street preventing them from turning right as they do now, apparently.
Is this all true Tony ?
Quote from: TT90 on September 27, 2017, 04:57:45 PM
I'm led to believe the 126 route change is true although I can't see anything on the NXWM website as yet.
I'ts due to the road layout and changes happening at the bottom of broad street preventing them from turning right as they do now, apparently.
Is this all true Tony ?
I haven't heard anything and the TfWM service change list has only been republished today without anything on
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/media/2149/busservicechanges-issued-20170926.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Public%20Transport%20Weekly%20Update%20Issued%2027092017&utm_content=Public%20Transport%20Weekly%20Update%20Issued%2027092017+CID_8ab2f274dc2f3975556cdd4d17857225&utm_source=Campaign%20Monitor&utm_term=click%20here
Quote from: Tony on September 27, 2017, 05:48:48 PM
I haven't heard anything and the TfWM service change list has only been republished today without anything on
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/media/2149/busservicechanges-issued-20170926.pdf?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Public%20Transport%20Weekly%20Update%20Issued%2027092017&utm_content=Public%20Transport%20Weekly%20Update%20Issued%2027092017+CID_8ab2f274dc2f3975556cdd4d17857225&utm_source=Campaign%20Monitor&utm_term=click%20here
Interesting that there is a variation to the 126 which was received today?
Registration number
PD0001111/105
Licence Number
PD0001111
Variation number
41
Status
Variation
Service number.
126, 126
Service type
Normal Stopping
Start point
Wolverhampton to Birmingham
Finish point
Wolverhampton to Birmingham
Via
Dudley
Date received
27 Sep 2017
Effective date
15 Oct 2017
End date
31 Dec 2099
Supported by subsidies?
No
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on September 27, 2017, 10:31:44 PM
Interesting that there is a variation to the 126 which was received today?
I'm guessing it's a change to the route in Wolverhampton city centre, with the right turn from Bilston Street into Pipers Row being closed bound to cause more congestion. Just a guess though, but it does take a while as it is to get out of the bus station when it's busy. Could still be a change in Birmingham though.
Is the 255A going to be commercially ran or is TfWM footing the Bill?
126 definately going back to Colmore Row and no longer serving the Markets from 15th October however I can't see any news / confirmation on NX website or on the buses as yet.
Guess they will officially announce it this week ?
Quote from: TT90 on October 03, 2017, 10:59:02 PM
126 definately going back to Colmore Row and no longer serving the Markets from 15th October however I can't see any news / confirmation on NX website or on the buses as yet.
Guess they will officially announce it this week ?
I would assume that'd be via Broad Street instead of Bath Row
Would be a shame, as there'd be no real link left from that side of the city to the markets without going all the way into the city centre, interchange at Five Ways isn't easy when all the Broad Street services use the underpass
All routes that use Holloway Head are being changed due to major roadworks at Holloway Circus.
Some are changed today with 126 next week.
Quote from: Chris on September 30, 2017, 07:27:52 PM
Is the 255A going to be commercially ran or is TfWM footing the Bill?
Notices have been posted on the buses stating that NXWM will operate the 255A as a tendered service from 22 October. The bus will miss out Wombourne, Swindon and Hinksford (get ready for the outcry from the Blaze Park mafia) to make sure that it can complete the journey within 60 minutes. The advantage is that a proper 30 minute service will be reinstated along the Penn Road, rather than the current 15/45 interval service.
Details are on the NXWM website at http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-22nd-october-2017 (http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-22nd-october-2017)
Quote from: Brummie45 on October 04, 2017, 10:28:53 AM
All routes that use Holloway Head are being changed due to major roadworks at Holloway Circus.
Some are changed today with 126 next week.
So just temporary then?
Quote from: Roy on October 04, 2017, 11:18:34 AM
Notices have been posted on the buses stating that NXWM will operate the 255A as a tendered service from 22 October. The bus will miss out Wombourne, Swindon and Hinksford (get ready for the outcry from the Blaze Park mafia) to make sure that it can complete the journey within 60 minutes. The advantage is that a proper 30 minute service will be reinstated along the Penn Road, rather than the current 15/45 interval service.
Details are on the NXWM website at http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-22nd-october-2017 (http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/black-country-service-changes-from-sunday-22nd-october-2017)
Can't imagine that many people in Hinksford and Swindon use the bus on a Sunday, so probably a sensible move especially as it will save money and resources.
As for the Blaze Park mob, if they need a bus, then a little walk to Wallheath Church will improve there health. They have gone mad before and when NE relented, nobody used the buses.
Quote from: Kevin on October 04, 2017, 07:55:49 AM
I would assume that'd be via Broad Street instead of Bath Row
Would be a shame, as there'd be no real link left from that side of the city to the markets without going all the way into the city centre, interchange at Five Ways isn't easy when all the Broad Street services use the underpass
The 126 timetable from the 15/10 is now on Traveline WM.
http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=33126&sup=W&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=CEN_EFA02_73252219&lineVer=11&itdLPxx_spTr=11&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=NXB
Whats the reason for the route change? Road layout changes on Broad Street?
Quote from: Brummie45 on October 04, 2017, 10:28:53 AM
All routes that use Holloway Head are being changed due to major roadworks at Holloway Circus.
Some are changed today with 126 next week.
If it's Holloway Circus, then why does this effect the 126 but not the 82/7 and Harbrorne Services that also use Suffolk Street Queensway at Holloway Head.
Still nothing on NXWM website or notices on buses informing people of the 126 change to Colmore Row !
Assume they'll need to amend bus branding ( no longer bullring / markets ) and the on board announcements too ?
126 Route change confirmed and now on the NX website. W/c 15th October.
Quote from: TT90 on October 11, 2017, 08:43:19 AM
126 Route change confirmed and now on the NX website. W/c 15th October.
Forgive my ignorance if there is something I'm not aware of, but if buses can no longer turn right from Broad Street, is there a reason why the 126 cannot just turn left there (like all the other Broad Street services do) instead of going via Bridge Street and Holliday Street to turn left?
Quote from: Stu on October 11, 2017, 06:25:42 PM
Forgive my ignorance if there is something I'm not aware of, but if buses can no longer turn right from Broad Street, is there a reason why the 126 cannot just turn left there (like all the other Broad Street services do) instead of going via Bridge Street and Holliday Street to turn left?
The 126 doesn't use Bridge Street and Holiday Street.
No buses use Bridge Street and Holiday Street?
The 126 is being rerouted due to the closure of the right turn onto Suffolk Street Queensway from Broad Street, nothing to do with Bridge Street and Holiday Street?
Though to still serve the Markets it could have gone via, Broad Street, Sheepcote Street, St Vincent Street, Summer Hill Street, Sand Pits and then followed the 82/7 down to Holloway Head or is there something preventing that as well?
Quote from: 2206 on October 11, 2017, 06:42:37 PM
The 126 doesn't use Bridge Street and Holiday Street.
No buses use Bridge Street and Holiday Street?
The 126 is being rerouted due to the closure of the right turn onto Suffolk Street Queensway from Broad Street, nothing to do with Bridge Street and Holiday Street?
Though to still serve the Markets it could have gone via, Broad Street, Sheepcote Street, St Vincent Street, Summer Hill Street, Sand Pits and then followed the 82/7 down to Holloway Head or is there something preventing that as well?
See the NX website: http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/126-route-change-in-birmingham-from-sunday-15th-october
QuoteTowards Birmingham, buses will change to operate along Broad Street, Bridge Street, Holliday Street, Suffolk Street Queensway, Paradise Circus Queensway, Great Charles Street Queensway, Snow Hill Queensway, Colmore Circus Queensway and Colmore Row. Buses will terminate at the first stop on Colmore Row (stop SH1).
I suppose they could have diverted it along the 22/23/24/29 route, so it could have still at least served New Street, would that have added too much to the running time though?
Quote from: Stu on October 11, 2017, 08:03:35 PM
See the NX website: http://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/information/service-changes/126-route-change-in-birmingham-from-sunday-15th-october
I suppose they could have diverted it along the 22/23/24/29 route, so it could have still at least served New Street, would that have added too much to the running time though?
Edit - Sorry, I see what you mean now, does anyone know why it can't just turn left at the end of Broad Street with the 9 and other Broad Street routes then?
Unless the other Broad Street routes are also going to use Holiday Street and Bridge Street?
Quote from: 2206 on October 11, 2017, 08:09:09 PM
I know, but the 126 doesn't use Bridge Street Holiday Street as you said.
It carries onto the bottom of Broad Street and turns right onto Suffolk Street Queensway and it is that right turn onto Suffolks Street Queensway that is being closed.
I know it doesn't use Bridge Street and Holliday Street normally, I was questioning why the NX article states it is going to be diverted along those roads in order to turn left onto Paradise Circus Queensway.
Due to the closure of the bottom of Broad Street ( by Symphony Hall ) for 3 months, all Broad Street services in-bound have to turn right into Bridge Street, left Holliday Street and then left to go past bottom of Broad Street and round onto Great Charles St as normal.
I'm guessing after the 3 months the bottom of Broad Street will be back open but the 126 will still be unable to turn right at the bottom and onto Suffolk Street Queensway ?
WN driver told me the 126 re- route to Colmore Row was for at least 12 months ?.
Interesting, I got my Network West Midlands update email today and no sign of the 126 diversion mentioned and it takes affect on Sunday!
Still no notices on the buses informing people of the route change ?
Guessing the branding and announcements will need changing too as it still says serves Markets, Grand Central and Bullring. ?
Quote from: TT90 on October 13, 2017, 09:11:49 AM
Still no notices on the buses informing people of the route change ?
Guessing the branding and announcements will need changing too as it still says serves Markets, Grand Central and Bullring. ?
works on gps so if the bus doesn't go there it won't go off
I got an email from NX about the route change on the 126 service in brum this morning, I think everybody who use the platinums wifi service probably got one if so fair play, I still don't get why it will go down bridge st and holiday st odd it seems
Quote from: 2900 on October 13, 2017, 12:29:09 PM
I got an email from NX about the route change on the 126 service in brum this morning, I think everybody who use the platinums wifi service probably got one if so fair play, I still don't get why it will go down bridge st and holiday st odd it seems
probably because broad st is only open one way out bound and we can't go sheepcote st due to residents complaining
Been two days since the diversion was put in place; currently on a 24, driver of bus in front came to ask mine where the Broad Street diversion was. Even some drivers are in the unknown!
Quote from: karl724223 on September 15, 2017, 06:49:55 PM
From 22nd October there will be a 9N run on weekends possibly only to Halesowen
i take it bus passes & it wil be normally fares on the 9n
I noticed this week that the destination displays on the 9 have been updated to advertise the new fri and sat night service.
Quote from: sonic84 on October 22, 2017, 03:30:31 AM
I noticed this week that the destination displays on the 9 have been updated to advertise the new fri and sat night service.
Has anyone got the exact wording for this?
Quote from: Dom on October 22, 2017, 09:45:48 AM
Has anyone got the exact wording for this?
Take it with a grain of salt, but from what I can gather from a few photos I've taken:
"Night service on 9 starts 22nd Oct. Buses from B'ham to Halesowen" then normal via points follows
I thought the 96 was losing its evening and Sunday service, or is that no longer happening?
Now tendered.
Still no notices on the 126 buses saying the route change that happened on 15th.
also, the 126 branded buses still showing " serves markets, grand central and Bullring ". ?
Shouldn't this have been changed seen at the route now goes to Colmore Row. Surely It's confusing passengers.