Hello everyone,
I have made a new allocation sheet for Rotala / Diamond Bus after how popular the De Courcey & Stagecoach ones have been.
Here is the link to the spreadsheet. Please edit sensibly!
https://1drv.ms/x/s!AuV-OWRD_pekgS0wIsfmt2gqttiL
It includes:
Allocations
PVR's
Links to timetables
Also:
Thanks to
@2206 for helping correct some incorrect information yesterday. Many allocations are currently blank as I am unfamiliar of Redditch / Kidderminster.
EDIT - link amended at request of topic-starter
I have just filled in a few for you @Adam404 but the Redditch routes are generally pretty random. I will have a look through some of my photos to see if I can work out any more for Redditch
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on December 20, 2016, 08:32:42 AM
I have just filled in a few for you @Adam404 but the Redditch routes are generally pretty random. I will have a look through some of my photos to see if I can work out any more for Redditch
Thanks
@Dylanbusboy45
Quote from: Adam 404 on December 20, 2016, 08:43:42 AM
Thanks @Dylanbusboy45
Now filled in a few more for Redditch as a guide but if any Redditch members know different then feel free to correct me.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on December 20, 2016, 08:49:24 AM
Now filled in a few more for Redditch as a guide but if any Redditch members know different then feel free to correct me.
Kidderminster routes apart from the 25 can be worked by darts or centros or the hybrids .and you have the 192 list as the the 142 which I have just amended
The 50 does not do Wolverhampton to Wednesbury. It does Wolverhampton to Wednesfield.
354 is run by Kidderminster not Redditch and is regular mpd
69 is run by Tividale not Redditch
Redditch is usually just random more than anything
Quote from: Dom on December 20, 2016, 10:29:25 AM
The 50 does not do Wolverhampton to Wednesbury. It does Wolverhampton to Wednesfield.
Quote from: jc on December 20, 2016, 11:17:01 AM
354 is run by Kidderminster not Redditch and is regular mpd
69 is run by Tividale not Redditch
Redditch is usually just random more than anything
Corrected. Thanks to all.
as far as I am aware the droitwich service are worked from kiddderminster
Quote from: Cedric on December 20, 2016, 03:18:14 PM
as far as I am aware the droitwich service are worked from kiddderminster
Thanks
@Cedric , I have added this information.
at least one of the ex preston bus was still in service at Kidderminster yesterday on the unable to id it
Corrected one typo - its StreetLITE not StreetLIGHT! :P
X30/X31 is Coventry Railway Station to Ansty Park
600 tends to be a mix of solos/mpds
Quote from: Lukeee on December 20, 2016, 09:53:36 PM
600 tends to be a mix of solos/mpds
Thanks
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 20, 2016, 08:55:23 PM
X30/X31 is Coventry Railway Station to Ansty Park
I already had this as that!
Quote from: Stu on December 20, 2016, 06:50:58 PM
Corrected one typo - its StreetLITE not StreetLIGHT! :P
Thanks again
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 20, 2016, 08:55:23 PM
X30/X31 is Coventry Railway Station to Ansty Park
Spreadsheet I can see says 'Coventry' only. Needs changing to 'Coventry Railway Station'?
The 42 Redditch to Kidderminster hospital is worked by Kidderminster mon to sat and Redditch on sundays
and the 3 has a sunday varration Kidderminster railway sation to arley kings which is worked by Redditch as Kidderminster is closed
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 20, 2016, 10:25:29 PM
Spreadsheet I can see says 'Coventry' only. Needs changing to 'Coventry Railway Station'?
They do a loop around Coventry City Centre & Rail Station though...
Also, when it passes me, it often says "Fairfax Street" on it.
I have updated the spreadsheet to include more allocations.
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 18, 2017, 04:45:04 PM
I have updated the spreadsheet to include more allocations.
There is still loads missing from Arriva Wednesfield
Quote from: leewhayward29 on May 02, 2017, 11:49:07 AM
There is still loads missing from Arriva Wednesfield
Probably because I haven't had time to update it since January...
Quote from: Adam 404 on May 02, 2017, 05:28:42 PM
Probably because I haven't had time to update it since January...
No problem. I just thought I'd point it out
Quote from: leewhayward29 on May 02, 2017, 06:01:01 PM
No problem. I just thought I'd point it out
All routes are now added. I don't know the usual allocation though, as I haven't been to the Black Country since the changes, so someone else could add this information if they wish, as it is editable.
Thanks.
I have just noticed that some absolute idiot has decided to delete most of the data on my spreadsheet. I am not happy about this and from now on, all of my spreadsheets will be only able to be viewed.
It is truly a disgrace that someone would do this.
A new link will be available once I have attempted to recover the information lost.
Not sure if it will get updated, but here are some things that need updating:
- 25 also has Streetlites and Primos on it.
- 29 has Streetlites used on it daily.
- 40 Streetlites are rarely used, E300's are used daily.
- 41/A don't use Centro's. Usually midibuses.
- 54/A have Streetlites and Primo's daily.
- 74/78 should have SLF Dart's as daily.
@Adam 404
Quote from: Jack on May 02, 2018, 10:22:13 PM
Not sure if it will get updated, but here are some things that need updating:
- 25 also has Streetlites and Primos on it.
- 29 has Streetlites used on it daily.
- 40 Streetlites are rarely used, E300's are used daily.
- 41/A don't use Centro's. Usually midibuses.
- 54/A have Streetlites and Primo's daily.
- 74/78 should have SLF Dart's as daily.
@Adam 404
Thanks for this information
@Jack , I have updated the spreadsheet accordingly and modified the list to be hopefully be up-to-date with approximate PVR's
Here's some more
@Adam 404:
4 missing SLF Dart and DAF Cadet.
40 is missing DAF Cadet and Volvo B7RLE.
42/3 missing DAF Cadet.
61 is not SLF Dart's, just MPD's and Solo's.
68A/C missing Primo and Streetlites.
74/8 are solid SLF Dart.
229 missing Streetlite, Centro, Solo, DAF Cadet, Volvo B7RLE and E300.
301/2 missing E300 and SLF Dart.
401E missing Streetlite and Primo.
Quote from: Jack on May 03, 2018, 04:48:27 PM
Here's some more @Adam 404:
4 missing SLF Dart and DAF Cadet.
40 is missing DAF Cadet and Volvo B7RLE.
42/3 missing DAF Cadet.
61 is not SLF Dart's, just MPD's and Solo's.
68A/C missing Primo and Streetlites.
74/8 are solid SLF Dart.
229 missing Streetlite, Centro, Solo, DAF Cadet, Volvo B7RLE and E300.
301/2 missing E300 and SLF Dart.
401E missing Streetlite and Primo.
Now added
@Jack
Quote from: Jack on May 03, 2018, 04:48:27 PM
Here's some more @Adam 404:
4 missing SLF Dart and DAF Cadet.
40 is missing DAF Cadet and Volvo B7RLE.
42/3 missing DAF Cadet.
61 is not SLF Dart's, just MPD's and Solo's.
68A/C missing Primo and Streetlites.
74/8 are solid SLF Dart.
229 missing Streetlite, Centro, Solo, DAF Cadet, Volvo B7RLE and E300.
301/2 missing E300 and SLF Dart.
401E missing Streetlite and Primo.
There is only 1 cadet on the road and I don't believe it has a fixed allocation as do many vehicles at diamond so putting it as usual on so many routes to me is pointless.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 03, 2018, 07:08:47 PM
There is only 1 cadet on the road and I don't believe it has a fixed allocation as do many vehicles at diamond so putting it as usual on so many routes to me is pointless.
30211 is usually used on are the routes I said and the spreadsheet is correct.
Quote from: Jack on May 03, 2018, 07:11:06 PM
30211 is usually used on are the routes I said and the spreadsheet is correct.
I haven't seen it on the 229 in a very long time! Nor have I seen it on the 42/43,4 or 40 in a long time either!
Quote from: Dom on May 03, 2018, 09:24:46 PM
I haven't seen it on the 229 in a very long time! Nor have I seen it on the 42/43,4 or 40 in a long time either!
As 4194 has said it does spread onto any full-size single Deck route. If you don't agree with me then fine. But whenever I'm in West Brom it's one the first buses I see on the 40.
Anyway the 229 see's any bus so I doubt it's unusual.
30211 made a very rare appearance on 20/21 oldbury to bearwood last week
Quote from: cris 99 on May 06, 2018, 08:13:53 PM
30211 made a very rare appearance on 20/21 oldbury to bearwood last week
Very rare indeed. Suppose it will now be added to the list of vehicles used on 20/21 now because that's how the spreadsheet works apparently. See a bus once on a route and put it as a common type.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 06, 2018, 08:52:47 PM
Very rare indeed. Suppose it will now be added to the list of vehicles used on 20/21 now because that's how the spreadsheet works apparently. See a bus once on a route and put it as a common type.
What's your point meant to be? Some common sense would be nice!
If I see a Solo on the 4H or the 002 does it mean it's a common type, no.
If 30211 is on the 002 doesn't it's mean it's a common type, no.
Quote from: Jack on May 06, 2018, 08:55:41 PM
What's your point meant to be? Some common sense would be nice!
If I see a Solo on the 4H or the 002 does it mean it's a common type?
Well you put 30211 allocated to the majority of tividale routes??
Quote from: Trident 4194 on May 06, 2018, 08:58:50 PM
Well you put 30211 allocated to the majority of tividale routes??
Of which is it common to see it on, not routes which are usually midi buses, 20/21 etc.
When 30211 had a rare day on the 16/W didn't mean it was thrown into the common types.
Thought 35 35a 35b was Tamworth with 91a/c. Stourbridge locals Kidderminster
Quote from: Solo1 on May 20, 2018, 06:16:17 AM
Thought 35 35a 35b was Tamworth with 91a/c. Stourbridge locals Kidderminster
that should be 9a/9c a Kidderminster local service they go Kidderminster -cookley one goes clockwise the other goes anti clockwise. do not go anywhere near stourbridge
Quote from: Cedric on May 20, 2018, 10:04:45 AM
that should be 9a/9c a Kidderminster local service they go Kidderminster -cookley one goes clockwise the other goes anti clockwise. do not go anywhere near stourbridge
No, he said he thought the 35/a/b was at Tamworth, with the 91A/C Chelmsley Wood Circular also at Tamworth, with the 142 at Kidderminster.
Quote from: Solo1 on May 20, 2018, 06:16:17 AM
Thought 35 35a 35b was Tamworth with 91a/c. Stourbridge locals Kidderminster
Another mistake on there is it says the 142 goes to the QE.
Quote from: Jack on May 02, 2018, 10:22:13 PM
Not sure if it will get updated, but here are some things that need updating:
- 25 also has Streetlites and Primos on it.
- 29 has Streetlites used on it daily.
- 40 Streetlites are rarely used, E300's are used daily.
- 41/A don't use Centro's. Usually midibuses.
- 54/A have Streetlites and Primo's daily.
- 74/78 should have SLF Dart's as daily.
@Adam 404
The 25 never get Primos or Darts, these days.
It gets Euro 5 vehicles - Euro 5 Optare Solo and Streetlite are the usual allocation.
Quote from: 2206 on May 20, 2018, 10:10:13 AM
The 25 never get Primos or Darts, these days.
It gets Euro 5 vehicles - Euro 5 Optare Solo and Streetlite are the usual allocation.
True - haven't seen either types on it in a while.
Is the 25 a tendered route with Euro 5 Spec vehicles? Only just popped into my head as it always a Euro 5 Bus.
Quote from: Jack on May 20, 2018, 10:57:20 AM
True - haven't seen either types on it in a while.
Is the 25 a tendered route with Euro 5 Spec vehicles? Only just popped into my head as it always a Euro 5 Bus.
Yes, the 25 is a tendered route with Euro 5 spec vehicles.
@Adam 404,
78 is just SLF Dart.
89 is Tamworth operated.
226 needs Optare Solo SR added and needs highlighting in orange.
Thanks all. I have updated the spreadsheet accordingly.
@Adam 404,
4 is missing Plaxton President.
34 missing Solo.
41/A missing Primo.
Redditch 64 is no longer a Diamond route.
78 needs Optare Solo and Versa removing.
88 is Optare Versa.
657 I saw operated from Kidderminster.
Quote from: Jack on May 30, 2018, 09:37:35 PM
@Adam 404,
4 is missing Plaxton President.
34 missing Solo.
41/A missing Primo.
Redditch 64 is no longer a Diamond route.
78 needs Optare Solo and Versa removing.
88 is Optare Versa.
The 34 is at Tividale as well, not Redditch.
The Optare Solo SR - 20884 is regularly found on the Redditch 30.
Streetlites are not usual on the Redditch 30 as well.
Quote from: 2206 on May 30, 2018, 10:54:46 PM
The 34 is at Tividale as well, not Redditch.
The Optare Solo SR - 20884 is regularly found on the Redditch 30.
Streetlites are not usual on the Redditch 30 as well.
The 34 is run from Redditch. Tividale drivers do the relief trip.
@Adam 404, some things to be corrected:
78 needs Enviro 200 removing.
88 is Tamworth operated.
125 needs Versa removing.
Quote from: Jack on August 02, 2018, 05:06:21 PM
@Adam 404, some things to be corrected:
78 needs Enviro 200 removing.
88 is Tamworth operated.
125 needs Versa removing.
The 30 gets 20884 on a daily basis as well, so needs Solo SR's adding.
Those have all been added. Thanks
@Jack and
@2206
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 02, 2018, 08:21:43 PM
Those have all been added. Thanks @Jack and @2206
Also, the 16S goes from Kingsbury, Kingsbury School to Castle Bromwich, Beechcroft Road (Kingsleigh Drive stop) (not Curdsworth to Tamworth).
I've seen the buses used on it in the past all the time as it goes out of service to and from the City Centre via the Washwood Heath Road and Ward End, The Fox and Goose, to operate the X16 and 16S as they are on the same board (it took the same route back when Tamworth Bus were operating it as well, with the Orange Optare Excel and I used to see that bus daily at the Fox and Goose.)
The allocation from what i've seen just seems to be any ex Central Bus at Tamworth - Optare Versa, Enviro 200, Optare Solo.
Most recently I saw it on a while on a 18XX on the 55 in the PM peak on Tuesday, it was laying over at Jennens Road, Woodcock Street before operating the X16 and it was a lwb Dart (I'm sure thats what I saw though according to the main site Tamworth doesn't have any Darts and they only have E200, Versa and Optare Solo).
It used to get Metrocity when with Central Buses as well.
Also the Redditch 64 is no longer with Diamond.
Quote from: 2206 on August 02, 2018, 08:46:25 PM
Also, the 16S goes from Kingsbury, Kingsbury School to Castle Bromwich, Beechcroft Road (Kingsleigh Drive stop) (not Curdsworth to Tamworth).
I've seen the buses used on it in the past all the time as it goes out of service to and from the City Centre via the Washwood Heath Road and Ward End, The Fox and Goose, to operate the X16 and 16S as they are on the same board (it took the same route back when Tamworth Bus were operating it as well, with the Orange Optare Excel and I used to see that bus daily at the Fox and Goose.)
The regular driver who drove it jumped ship from heartlands/Tamworth bus and coach to central buses when central gained the route
Streetlites are no longer usual on the 25, now 20976 - 20980 are withdrawn
41A is West Bromwich to Wednesbury not Friar Park.
202 is no longer Solos, Plaxton Centro now.
657 is a Kidderminster operated route.
I'm having problems getting on the usual allocation sheet it saying it's deleted or been renamed any way anyone can fix this or anyone know what I can do
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 13, 2018, 06:58:29 PM
I'm having problems getting on the usual allocation sheet it saying it's deleted or been renamed any way anyone can fix this or anyone know what I can do
Works fine here, are you clicking the link in the first page of this topic?
Quote from: Stu on September 15, 2018, 03:18:31 PM
Works fine here, are you clicking the link in the first page of this topic?
It now works I did it worked yesterday after five attempts
The 30 seems to now be operated by 20884 and 20982 now, i've seen a Dart get on there for some time now.
The ex Wessex B7RLE at Redditch seem to be on the signature routes (S2, S3, 82, 88, etc) in Solihull on a daily basis now, i've seen loads over the past week or so.
The 28A seems to be largely Solo operated now.
@Adam 404 would it be possible for you to put a key as to what some of the different colors mean. Some like the 31/32 route number colors I get as being the WMB routes but there are whole lines of green, red or yellow with some bits of blue which make little sense.
Many thanks
The ones all in red are to be withdrawn yellow be new buses 4 some are
branded for the 4 16 might be branded 002some buses are branded I know 3080/1 are & 226 solo sr are branded
Quote from: IMarkeh on March 02, 2019, 11:25:25 PM
@Adam 404 would it be possible for you to put a key as to what some of the different colors mean. Some like the 31/32 route number colors I get as being the WMB routes but there are whole lines of green, red or yellow with some bits of blue which make little sense.
Many thanks
Hello
@IMarkeh,
I have updated the spreadsheet so that it is hopefully a bit more clear.
@Solo1 was correct.
Hope that helps 🙂
A1/2 (Solihull) are just Mellor Strata's. The Darts, E200 and Solo can be removed.
30 (Solihull) seems to just be 2 Optare Solo now, the Solo SR (20884) isn't on there anymore.
53 (Stechford) is also just Mellor Strata now, I never seen any Optare Solo on it.
53 Mellor in the week Saturday something else ive seen Mellor mini on 229 not sure what day that was
Quote from: Solo1 on March 03, 2019, 01:53:53 PM
53 Mellor in the week Saturday something else ive seen Mellor mini on 229 not sure what day that was
The 229 seems to get whatever is in the depot, be it an E300 or a Strata.
Thought mellor minibus was on 13 23 30/74a. ,53 ,64 ,74 ,
71 Sutton Coldfield to Chelmsley Wood is missing of there as well.
(Sundays Only it is operated by Diamond).
@Adam 404, the 68A/C is now booked Mellor Strata's.
Quote from: Jack on May 28, 2019, 05:33:54 PM
@Adam 404, the 68A/C is now booked Mellor Strata's.
Thanks, it's been updated accordingly. 👍
@Jack
The 19 (Maypole - Rubery) normally has the following vechiles: 20882/3 (Solo SR), 21107 (E200 mini), 20982 (Streetlite SWB), 30965 (E200 longbase),20913 (Optare solo),although having said that the last 3 days it has been 21107, 20982, 30965, 20882 or 20883 and 30897 ( the long Ex central dart).
Quote from: 4369Beast on July 04, 2019, 08:47:01 PM
The 19 (Maypole - Rubery) normally has the following vechiles: 20882/3 (Solo SR), 21107 (E200 mini), 20982 (Streetlite SWB), 30965 (E200 longbase),20913 (Optare solo),although having said that the last 3 days it has been 21107, 20982, 30965, 20882 or 20883 and 30897 ( the long Ex central dart).
Thanks, it has been updated accordingly
@4369Beast . :)
@Adam 404 , I just noticed that your Diamond Usual Allocation spreadsheet is no longer available.
Have you removed it from your OneDrive?
If you still have the data somewhere, would you be interested in sharing it with me? If the data can be stored in a Google Sheet, I can present it on a page on my WMBU website, as well as embed it here for you.