My sister informed me that her shuttle bus, one of the Optare Tempos had a faulty emergency exit door.
Apparently the driver was aware of the fault but just took photos of it and continued with his journey but told people not to sit by it, then it flipped open on the Black Country route.
Wolverhampton University have all over white MCV bodied Volvo B5TL Demo BF65 WHZ on evaluation for use on its University services.
Any idea how long they are having it
@Nathan?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on April 12, 2016, 04:08:37 PM
Any idea how long they are having it @Nathan?
Not sure. Just saw a post on Facebook. It did not indicate for how long.
Ok
@Nathan will just have to wait and see.
Have they ever had deckers before?
Just to add, it was previously being evaluated by Ensign Bus. It has also been in use in First (believe Tony photographed it).
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2016, 07:01:40 PM
Just to add, it was previously being evaluated by Ensign Bus. It has also been in use in First (believe Tony photographed it).
Here it is with First
http://wmbusphotos.com/FirstUK/36301.html
Quote from: Tony on April 12, 2016, 07:23:09 PM
Here it is with First
http://wmbusphotos.com/FirstUK/36301.html
Thanks Tony. Was trying to find your photo of it but couldn't locate it.
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2016, 03:59:07 PM
Wolverhampton University have all over white MCV bodied Volvo B5TL Demo BF65 WHZ on evaluation for use on its University services.
Ahhhh the former First 36301. Took ages to get ready for service, warranty twice, and the back end required a lot of filler. Spent about half a year with us, where it spent about half of that time in service, although when it was out it was pretty reliable, just a shame about the build quality
better than a B7L anyroads.... We were only meant to have it three months too.
Just seen a orange double decker going towards Wolverhampton from Walsall they got another new bus ?
Quote from: Wright liberator on April 21, 2016, 08:22:15 AM
Just seen a orange double decker going towards Wolverhampton from Walsall they got another new bus ?
It is an Optare Metrodecker, appears to be the same one that was in use with Yorkshire Tiger and Reading Buses. The MCV bodied B5TL has moved on.
The Optare bus will stay at the uni until 3rd May 2016.
Are the uni bus services stand alone services or do they all interwork at wolves thanks
Quote from: Solo1 on April 22, 2016, 02:23:12 AM
Are the uni bus services stand alone services or do they all interwork at wolves thanks
The demonstrator bus will be on the Walsall shuttle service until it goes back to the manufacturer.
If nothing has changed by the Transport and Travel Co-ordinator, then the demonstrator bus will do these departures:
Wolverhampton (Stafford Street outside the University towards Walsall): 07:30, 10:15, 12:15, 15:15, 17:15, 20:15.
Walsall (town centre towards Wolverhampton): 08:10, 11:15, 13:15, 16:15, 18:15, 21:15.
Quote from: Nathan on April 12, 2016, 03:59:07 PM
Wolverhampton University have all over white MCV bodied Volvo B5TL Demo BF65 WHZ on evaluation for use on its University services.
A bit late but this bus has been returned to Volvo on Monday 18th April 2016.
I'll be starting at the university in a couple of weeks, so I'll be able to use the shuttle buses, which is a bonus. I always see them around the city centre, but you tend to hear them first. Have Tempo's always been that loud or is it something with the ones at the UoW?
Quote from: DJ98 on September 11, 2017, 09:41:22 PM
I'll be starting at the university in a couple of weeks, so I'll be able to use the shuttle buses, which is a bonus. I always see them around the city centre, but you tend to hear them first. Have Tempo's always been that loud or is it something with the ones at the UoW?
Just don't expect the buses to be on time or get a seat... Walsall Line is always full. Telford is dead. It used to annoy me was that sometimes they put an Optare Solo on the Walsall Line. ::)
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 12, 2017, 07:58:32 AM
Just don't expect the buses to be on time or get a seat... Walsall Line is always full. Telford is dead. It used to annoy me was that sometimes they put an Optare Solo on the Walsall Line. ::)
I won't need to use them much, since I've got an mTicket from the uni too until April. I'd probably have better luck just getting the 529 if I needed to get to Walsall for whatever reason. Do they still have the Solo? It looked in bad shape from the picture on the main site.
Quote from: DJ98 on September 12, 2017, 12:56:35 PM
I won't need to use them much, since I've got an mTicket from the uni too until April. I'd probably have better luck just getting the 529 if I needed to get to Walsall for whatever reason. Do they still have the Solo? It looked in bad shape from the picture on the main site.
Yes, they still have the Solo.
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 18, 2017, 09:52:25 PM
Yes, they still have the Solo.
Does it get used much these days? I've never seen it in the city centre but I haven't been to Wolverhampton too much in the past.
I believe that the Solo is owned by Wolverhampton Science Park (in which the University have a financial connection) and itappears to be used generally as a stand in for one of the regular buses if unavailable.
I have seen the Solo in use about a month ago.
University of Wolverhampton will have new double decker buses in November.
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 07, 2017, 10:25:02 AM
University of Wolverhampton will have new double decker buses in November.
Hmm, interesting, are there any specific details about which ones, and will they replace the Tempos?
Talking about the Tempos, if they are being replaced, I'll have to remember to catch one in the near future.
Quote from: DJ98 on October 07, 2017, 11:04:37 AM
Hmm, interesting, are there any specific details about which ones, and will they replace the Tempos?
Talking about the Tempos, if they are being replaced, I'll have to remember to catch one in the near future.
Here is a picture of one of the new buses. https://www.facebook.com/wolvesunion/posts/1692896020740602
I would guess they may replace the Tempos. I'll ask the guy on Monday. Tbh, if I were you, I'd get the Tempos this month just to be on the safe side.
Quote from: P419 EJW on October 07, 2017, 11:49:08 AM
Here is a picture of one of the new buses. https://www.facebook.com/wolvesunion/posts/1692896020740602
I would guess they may replace the Tempos. I'll ask the guy on Monday. Tbh, if I were you, I'd get the Tempos this month just to be on the safe side.
Ooh, they look nice to be honest. I would've guessed they'd be MetroDeckers, since they've gone with Optares in the past, but I guess not.
I was gonna pop up to Telford to grab some things from the CeX there sometime next week, so I'll check out the Tempos then.
Quote from: DJ98 on October 07, 2017, 12:14:21 PM
Ooh, they look nice to be honest. I would've guessed they'd be MetroDeckers, since they've gone with Optares in the past, but I guess not.
I was gonna pop up to Telford to grab some things from the CeX there sometime next week, so I'll check out the Tempos then.
UoW had 5 T reg Volvo B6BLEs before the Optare Tempos came in the fleet.
Was surprised because the demos they had were:
YJ65 EPU - https://flic.kr/p/FwFboD
BF65 WHZ - https://flic.kr/p/FnKxZb
https://busesandbits.smugmug.com/Heysham-Docks-201516-and-some-/Heysham-Docks-21-10-2017/i-gnvqC8s/A
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2017, 03:17:32 PM
https://busesandbits.smugmug.com/Heysham-Docks-201516-and-some-/Heysham-Docks-21-10-2017/i-gnvqC8s/A
Do you know if the uni's only getting the two, or are there still more to follow?
If it's just them two, then I presume they could be keeping some or all of the Tempos too?
Quote from: DJ98 on October 21, 2017, 03:56:15 PM
Do you know if the uni's only getting the two, or are there still more to follow?
If it's just them two, then I presume they could be keeping some or all of the Tempos too?
3 where sighted this morning on the Bay Gateway.
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/m6-bus-deliveries-23-10-2017.156101/
Quote from: 2206 on October 23, 2017, 12:06:24 PM
3 where sighted this morning on the Bay Gateway.
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/m6-bus-deliveries-23-10-2017.156101/
Ah, interesting, I can see them fully replacing the Tempos then, although that will mean it will be going from 4 active buses to 3. I guess the Solo could be used on occasion though, if it's needed.
Quote from: DJ98 on October 23, 2017, 05:32:32 PM
Ah, interesting, I can see them fully replacing the Tempos then, although that will mean it will be going from 4 active buses to 3. I guess the Solo could be used on occasion though, if it's needed.
Why would it mean a reduction from 4 to 3
Quote from: Tony on October 23, 2017, 05:44:17 PM
Why would it mean a reduction from 4 to 3
Since there's 4 Tempo's right now, and they're likely gonna be replaced by the 3 B5TL's? Or do they only use 3 Tempos at the same time?
Quote from: DJ98 on October 23, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
Since there's 4 Tempo's right now, and they're likely gonna be replaced by the 3 B5TL's? Or do they only use 3 Tempos at the same time?
The website doesn't say how many are coming, where have you got 3 from?
https://www.wolvesunion.org/news/article/6533/New-Double-Deckers/
Quote from: Tony on October 23, 2017, 06:04:16 PM
The website doesn't say how many are coming, where have you got 3 from?
https://www.wolvesunion.org/news/article/6533/New-Double-Deckers/
The thread on RailForums that was linked earlier today, it mentioned that there were three of them.
Quote from: DJ98 on October 23, 2017, 06:21:01 PM
The thread on RailForums that was linked earlier today, it mentioned that there were three of them.
3 being delivered today.
Surely more could be due later on?
Quote from: 2206 on October 23, 2017, 06:27:38 PM
3 being delivered today.
Surely more could be due later on?
National Express have 38 new buses on order, they won't all come on the same day
Are the 38 buses ordered the only order for 2017/18?
Quote from: 2206 on October 23, 2017, 06:27:38 PM
3 being delivered today.
Surely more could be due later on?
when will the new University of Wolverhampton buses enter service
Quote from: Solo1 on November 19, 2017, 05:37:29 PM
when will the new University of Wolverhampton buses enter service
The University have posted on their own Facebook page that they are going into service this week
Quote from: DJ98 on October 23, 2017, 06:00:04 PM
Since there's 4 Tempo's right now, and they're likely gonna be replaced by the 3 B5TL's? Or do they only use 3 Tempos at the same time?
There are 5 new double decks
BF67 GJO; BF67 GJU; BF67 GJV; BF67 GJX; BF67 GJY
Quote from: Tony on November 22, 2017, 07:08:04 PM
There are 5 new double decks
BF67 GJO; BF67 GJU; BF67 GJU; BF67 GJX; BF67 GJY
Interesting, quite a bit more capacity than the old Tempo's then. I wonder if there'll be a new timetable introduced at all with a slightly higher frequency.
I was just about to point out there were two GJU'S - but thats only in the quote, Tony's original post has GJV for the second one!
Their press release says in service from tomorrow.
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http://www.wlv.ac.uk/about-us/news-and-events/latest-news/2017/november-2017/students-get-new-buses-on-board-at-university.php
Spotted one tonight around half 4 while waiting for a 529, which confused 2 old biddies on the Wolverhampton Road to Walsall, as it had no display, and moaned slightly to our driver as it gone past them without stopping!
YJ60LSO is for sale on the Stafford Bus Centre website - I cannot find anything as to where it came from.
Quote from: mikestone on August 29, 2019, 02:31:09 PM
YJ60LSO is for sale on the Stafford Bus Centre website - I cannot find anything as to where it came from.
New at first registration to University of Wolverhampton with the following:
SABMW6AS0AL280192 X1200 YJ60LSK Oe 280192 B43F 2/2011 University of Wolverhampton
SABMW6AS0AL280193 X1200 YJ60LSL Oe 280193 B43F 2/2011 University of Wolverhampton
SABMW6AS0AL280194 X1200 YJ60LSN Oe 280194 B43F 2/2011 University of Wolverhampton
SABMW6AS0AL280195 X1200 YJ60LSO Oe 280195 B43F 2/2011 University of Wolverhampton
Sorry - I knew that, it was where it had been since leaving Wolverhampton - PSVC gives disposal to a dealer, but nothing further. LSN also appears unreported.
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LSL is with Hulleys
LSK Hams, Flimwell
https://www.expressandstar.com/news/education/2024/07/15/difficult-to-justify-university-of-wolverhampton-to-axe-free-inter-campus-buses-for-students/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2DT4DGN52mDlV1DDqEVbc4acpSeEhRfsjiwHtfEoEc6DeAWvgOQXir7J4_aem_niDbD6QY5kXUWF7lXdAxBA#Echobox=1721060237
I assume they mean £10.00 per passenger per trip?
Quote from: mikestone on July 15, 2024, 08:50:07 PMI assume they mean £10.00 per passenger per trip?
I presume so.
I was a regular user of what was then the "Intersite Coach Service" operated by Nash Coaches of Smethwick back in the 1990s. The Uni only had Ford Transit minibuses at the time.
Wonder where the buses the uni got will end up only 5 years old
Quote from: Solo1 on July 15, 2024, 10:29:18 PMWonder where the buses the uni got will end up only 5 years old
Depends, they could be on a 5 year lease so could return to the leasing company
I was at the University when they introduced the Optare Tempos, as in my final year they transferred our course from Wolverhampton to Walsall campus and the Shuttle was a god send for early morning lectures.
Whenever I've seen them in Wolvo they haven't been that full of a morning or Mid morning/Midday never seen them of a evening though. Or got a proper glance of the Bus Stop. It is worth noting the 529 gets you to Walsall but to get to the Walsall Campus unless they have two it's the 51 or X51 To the Broadway. I used to go to there facilities at Primary School for some sort of Schools Competition. I never remember seeing the Shuttle Buses then So I don't know where they stop if it is indeed that Campus they serve.
In my opinion, the issue that the Uni has is that they went down the route of the shuttles being exclusively for students. Given the decent flows of passengers between these areas, stick some ticket machines on there and sell some tickets for normal people. It's revenue coming in to support the service. If the service is operating anyway, opening it up to the public means they can claim BSOG, ticket sales are easy revenue.
Many other unis have opened up their buses and they seem to be better for it. Uno made a whole business out of it.
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 16, 2024, 12:05:15 PMWhenever I've seen them in Wolvo they haven't been that full of a morning or Mid morning/Midday never seen them of a evening though. Or got a proper glance of the Bus Stop. It is worth noting the 529 gets you to Walsall but to get to the Walsall Campus unless they have two it's the 51 or X51 To the Broadway. I used to go to there facilities at Primary School for some sort of Schools Competition. I never remember seeing the Shuttle Buses then So I don't know where they stop if it is indeed that Campus they serve.
The service runs from Gorway Road (or at least the intersite coach travel did when I was there). They start from outside Randall Lines (behind Asda) in Wolverhampton.
Quote from: IMarkeh on July 17, 2024, 04:13:19 AMIn my opinion, the issue that the Uni has is that they went down the route of the shuttles being exclusively for students. Given the decent flows of passengers between these areas, stick some ticket machines on there and sell some tickets for normal people. It's revenue coming in to support the service. If the service is operating anyway, opening it up to the public means they can claim BSOG, ticket sales are easy revenue.
Many other unis have opened up their buses and they seem to be better for it. Uno made a whole business out of it.
That would be a great idea for when the 529's are late as the Uni Buses skip out the Wolverhampton Road to Willenhall and use the Black Country Route. Then they follow the 529 for the most part. The only bit them for the Students is to the actual Campuses themselves. The Walsall campus shuttle will be for Students from Walsall to the Broadway
Quote from: IMarkeh on July 17, 2024, 04:13:19 AMIn my opinion, the issue that the Uni has is that they went down the route of the shuttles being exclusively for students. Given the decent flows of passengers between these areas, stick some ticket machines on there and sell some tickets for normal people. It's revenue coming in to support the service. If the service is operating anyway, opening it up to the public means they can claim BSOG, ticket sales are easy revenue.
Many other unis have opened up their buses and they seem to be better for it. Uno made a whole business out of it.
Uno successfully diversified and made a successful business from it. Wolverhampton's has always been about student door to door services, closed to the public to promote student safety. Granted, most of the services I see are partially patronised, though do have some decent peak loads too.
It's always been a fantastic USP for students choosing which university to attend. If it's too expensive to maintain, then the option to open to the public is an option, though you lose some of the control on who uses it.
It would be a huge shame if it does cease - not least for the variety of buses we've seen on there!
Just an idea Wolves College and the Uni share a partnership or used to so ie ideally students of say Bussiness at the College would move to the University when they finished, grades depending, now granted the College is set to move from Paget Road but at this current time I do believe that is delayed.
There is a Uni Campus near to Compton Park so maybe they could partner with the College joint funding to get College students to Paget Road and even Bilston and Students to Walsall and Compton. It would provide another way for Students at the College to get there without being late as happened to me rarely because the 1 was excessively full of school kids and then the Traffic was horrendous. The 10 also gets rammed although I now do believe that journey has a Double Decker on it now and again Traffic is horrendous. So maybe it doesn't need to be public maybe just Student Transport To the City College and Uni as well as Walsall and Telford campus. But only for Students at one of them no School Kids. If that doesn't work then Public Service. I believe the Veichles have Pushchair and Wheelchair spaces.
Another Idea maybe get the City Council to fund them or get another Operator to help operate them maybe NX as the Uni Bus follows most of the 529 and 51/X51 Route maybe someone else.
And random point where are the Veichles maintained or kept and do the Drivers work for the Uni or are they like agency drivers
Quote from: Wumpty on July 17, 2024, 09:29:01 PMUno successfully diversified and made a successful business from it. Wolverhampton's has always been about student door to door services, closed to the public to promote student safety. Granted, most of the services I see are partially patronised, though do have some decent peak loads too.
It's always been a fantastic USP for students choosing which university to attend.
I love that they do it to 'promote student safety'. Such a poor excuse. Students don't just sit in the Uni ecosystem for years. They go to town centres and mingle with others. Many of them get trains to get from their family home/origin area to the uni in the first place. The students are more than happy to go out and get paralytic on cheep booze in sometimes quite dodgy establishments, but god forbid they have to share a bus with the general public. Uni management need to get a grip.
The buses are parked at burke bros you can see them on the train line https://maps.app.goo.gl/XnsEmXfvkhXreXo67 buses on left on pic
Quote from: BlackCountryBusSpotter on July 18, 2024, 01:25:01 AMJust an idea Wolves College and the Uni share a partnership or used to so ie ideally students of say Bussiness at the College would move to the University when they finished, grades depending, now granted the College is set to move from Paget Road but at this current time I do believe that is delayed.
There is a Uni Campus near to Compton Park so maybe they could partner with the College joint funding to get College students to Paget Road and even Bilston and Students to Walsall and Compton. It would provide another way for Students at the College to get there without being late as happened to me rarely because the 1 was excessively full of school kids and then the Traffic was horrendous. The 10 also gets rammed although I now do believe that journey has a Double Decker on it now and again Traffic is horrendous. So maybe it doesn't need to be public maybe just Student Transport To the City College and Uni as well as Walsall and Telford campus. But only for Students at one of them no School Kids. If that doesn't work then Public Service. I believe the Veichles have Pushchair and Wheelchair spaces.
Another Idea maybe get the City Council to fund them or get another Operator to help operate them maybe NX as the Uni Bus follows most of the 529 and 51/X51 Route maybe someone else.
And random point where are the Veichles maintained or kept and do the Drivers work for the Uni or are they like agency drivers
The uni campus at a Compton went years ago, now a school & houseing
Quote from: woody38 on July 18, 2024, 10:52:11 PMThe uni campus at a Compton went years ago, now a school & housing
The school is St Edmunds.
At least 3 of their Geminis are now in service with Redline Buses, there are pictures of GJO, GJV and GJY in service on the Friends of the PSV Circle facebook group
GJV/Y have been in service since 13/08
I saw two of these ex-UoW buses today on the x20, on the car park that was the a40 heading into Oxford. They still have the same colour scheme, just the text has been removed.