I am doing a project on National Express West Midlands and was wondering if anyone could please provide a link, or answer a few following questions in regards to:-
- Number of buses currently used by NXWM? (and what is the split between double / single deck)
- How many garages are currently in use (and which is the largest and which is the smallest)
- How much NXWM have invested over the last 5 years and what the projected future spend?
Any kind of help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Quote from: BigDaddyCool on December 13, 2015, 07:17:33 PM
I am doing a project on National Express West Midlands and was wondering if anyone could please provide a link, or answer a few following questions in regards to:-
- Number of buses currently used by NXWM? (and what is the split between double / single deck)
- How many garages are currently in use (and which is the largest and which is the smallest)
- How much NXWM have invested over the last 5 years and what the projected future spend?
Any kind of help would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Unless you have time on your hands, you could spend some time on the Main Site with a pen and paper noting each bus !
Their are 1 garages with BY being the smallest and BC being the biggest (On vehicle allocation, I can't speak for total area)
Im sure another learned member of the forum can relay the last answer
Thats what I know, hope it helps !
Thanks for the response.
Not looking for exact number of buses, just a very good approximate would do.
Quote from: BigDaddyCool on December 13, 2015, 07:32:23 PM
Thanks for the response.
Not looking for exact number of buses, just a very good approximate would do.
Give or take 1600
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on December 13, 2015, 07:21:04 PM
Unless you have time on your hands, you could spend some time on the Main Site with a pen and paper noting each bus !
Their are 1 garages with BY being the smallest and BC being the biggest (On vehicle allocation, I can't speak for total area)
Im sure another learned member of the forum can relay the last answer
Thats what I know, hope it helps !
Few more than one haha :) ;)
Quote from: WN on December 13, 2015, 07:39:54 PM
Few more than one haha :) ;)
Haha ! Quite the typo from myself, I must stress its
10 garages !
Much appreciated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Express_West_Midlands
Topline summary but think most of your questions have been answered.
With regards to vehicle types and numbers owned - this is only from my own notes (includes the recent transfer of three Plaxton Presidents to Xplore Dundee mentioned by Tony)
84-94 (Volvo B8R & Volvo B9R/Caetano Levante C48FT) total 11
244 P244 AAP (Volvo B6LE-53/Wright Crusader B35F) total 1
502/561/572/582/600-601/633-634/649/658/660/662 (Volvo B6LE/Wright Crusader B37F) total 12
687/708/711 (Optare Excel L1070/Optare B38F) total 3
751-764 (Alexander Dennis E20D 8.9m/Alexander Dennis Enviro 200 B27F) total 14
801-875 (Alexander Dennis E20D 10.8m/Alexander Dennis Enviro 200 B37F) total 75
1344-1345/1349-1350/1355/1368/1377/1384-1386 (Volvo B10B-58/Wright Endurance B48F trainers) total 10
1401-1402/1411/1413-1414/1420-1421/1426-1427/1431-1432/1434/1436/1440/1446-1447/1449-1450/1452/1456/1461-1462/1471/1475-1476/1480 (Volvo B10L/Wright Liberator B43F) total 26
1501/1504-1505/1507-1509/1512/1514 (Volvo B10L/Alexander Ultra B43F) total 8
1543/1546/1548-1550/1553-1554/1560/1570-1573/1579/1582/1585-1586/1589/1591/1593-1594/1605/1607/1612-1613/1616/1618/1620/1627-1632/1636-1643
1646-1647/1651/1653/1657/1659/1666-1668/1670-1672/1677-1678/1687/1689/1695-1696/1698-1700/1703-1706/1743
(Mercedes-Benz O405N/UVG B43F 1515-22 & 1743 or Mercedes-Benz B43F 1523-1707) total 67
1750-1773 (Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban B42F) total 24
1788-1907 (Scania Omnilink K230UB/Scania B43F) total 120
1909-1953 (Scania Omnilink K230UB/Scania B43F) total 45
2001-2029 (Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 2 B43F) total 29
2059-2152 (Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 2 B43F) total 94
2153 BD 12 TFZ (Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 2 B44F) total 1
2154-2177 (Volvo B7RLE/Wright Eclipse Urban 2 B43F) total 24
2201-2250 (Alexander Dennis Enviro 200MMC 11.8m/Alexander Dennis B45F) total 50
3225 MOF 225 (Preserved 1954-built Daimler CVG6/Crossley H30/25R) total 1
3601/3612 W601/12 MWJ (Dennis Dart SLF/Alexander ALX200 B28F) total 2
4005-4007/4009-4010/4013/4017/4019-4022 (DAF DE02RSDB250/Optare Spectra H43/29F) total 11
4023-4024/4027/4029/4031-4035/4037-4041/4044/4047-4052/4054-4055/4057-4073/4076-4087/4089-4102/4104-4107/4109/4114 (Volvo B7TL/Plaxton President H45/29F) total 72
4125-4224 (Dennis Trident2/Alexander ALX400 H47/28F) total 100
4225-4304 (Volvo B7TL/Alexander ALX400 H47/27F) total 80
4305-4335/4337-4340/4342-4404 (Dennis Trident 2/Alexander ALX400 H47/28F) total 98
4405-4414 (Dennis Trident2/TransBus ALX400 H47/28F) total 10
4415-4424 (Volvo B7TL/TransBus ALX400 H47/27F) total 10
4425-4474 (TransBus Trident2/TransBus ALX400 H48/28F) total 50
4475-4534 (Volvo B7TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F – 4475-91 H43/29F) total 60
4535-4634 (TransBus Trident2/TransBus ALX400 H45/28F) total 100
4635-4679/4687-4696 (Volvo B7TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F – 4687-96 H43/29F) total 55
4697 YN 55 PXB (Scania N94UD4/Scania Omnicity H45/27F) total 1
4698 BX 55 XOA (Alexander Dennis Trident2/Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 H45/33F) total 1
4700-4717 (Volvo B7TL/Wright Eclipse Gemini H45/29F) total 18
4718-4776 (Alexander Dennis Trident2/Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 H45/32F - 4763-76 H45/33F) total 59
4777-4781 (Scania Omnicity N230UD/Scania Omnicity H45/31F) total 5
4799-4815/4817-4829 (Alexander Dennis Trident2/Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 H45/32F) total 30
4830-4879 (Alexander Dennis E40D/Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 H45/32F) total 50
4880-4939 (Alexander Dennis E40D/Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 H45/32F) total 60
4940-4995 (Alexander Dennis E40D/Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 H45/32F) total 56
5401-5409 (Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 Hybrid/Alexander Dennis H45/32F) total 9
5410-5421 (Alexander Dennis Enviro 400 Hybrid/Alexander Dennis H45/32F) total 12
5501-5509 (Volvo B5L Hybrid/Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 H41/27F) total 9
5510-5518 (Volvo B5L Hybrid/Wright Eclipse Gemini 2 H41/27F) total 9
6012-6021 (Mercedes-Benz Citaro O530G/Mercedes-Benz AB56D) total 10
6022-6032 (Scania CN94UA OmniCity/Scania AB58D) total 11
6101-6148 (Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC/Alexander Dennis H47/32F) total 48
6701-6758 (Alexander Dennis Enviro 400MMC/Alexander Dennis H45/30F 'Platinum') total 58
7019-7033 SP 10 CXA-H/J-K/CWV-Z (Scania OmniLink K230UB4/Scania B43F) total 15
7086 R86 GNW (Dennis Dart SLF/Wright Crusader B36F) total 1
9023 M723 KPD (Volvo B10M-62/Plaxton C51FT trainer) total 1
9057 BT 57 ENJ (Ford Transit/Ford M8 trainer) total 1
9315 P315 DVE (Volvo B10M-62/Plaxton C52F trainer) total 1
9951/9955/9959 (MCW Metrobus trainers) total 3
BX 54 ZWV (Iveco 35S12/? M8L trainer) total 1
Total 1721 + 11 NX Coaches on-loan to NXWM
Re. garage totals - I have this at the moment, nothing from official sources, just my own notes [not sure if 4528/32 are at WA or AG?] :
Acocks Green, 150
2201-50; 4023/29/31/34/37-40/51-52/58-64/66-67/69-71/78/80-82/99-102; 4507-19/21-27/29-31/33-34; 4635-79.
Birmingham Central, 217
801-9; 2115-52; 4156-89; 4440-49/55-74; 4608-34; 4871-84/95-4913/40-49; 5501-09; 5510-18; 6701-18.
Bordesley, 49
1788-1836.
Coventry, 154 + 1 non-pvc
871-75; 1687 Health Buzz; 2153-77; 4203-17/19-24; 4396-4424; 4450-54; 4687-96; 4763-75; 4830-42; 4885-94; 4983-95; 6012-21.
Pensnett, 113
823-30/64-70; 1571/91; 2078-111; 4190-99/4218; 4319/46-54/56-59; 4425-39; 6101-22.
Perry Barr, 180
761-64; 1863-77; 1905-7; 4235-46/51-57/76-91; 4475-4506; 4697; 4777-81; 4799-4815/17-29/43-56; 4914-39; 7019-33.
Walsall, 191 + 9 NX Coaches
84-86/89-94; 855-60; 1750-73; 1837-62/78-97; 1918; 4024/27/32-33/35/65/68/72-73/76/4105; 4125-32; 4258-65/92-309/26-32; 4528/32; 4733-37; 4776; 4857-70; 6719-58.
West Bromwich, 165
753-60; 810-22/31-39; 1585/1607/95/99; 1936-53; 4044/47-49/54-55/57/83-87/114; 4225-34/47-50/66-75; 4700-17; 4738-62; 4950-82.
Wolverhampton, 206
751-2; 840-54/61-63; 2001-29/59-77/112-14; 4133-55/4200-2; 4310-18/20-25; 4535-4607; 5401-09; 5410-21.
Yardley Wood, 135 + 1 preserved
1898-904/9-17/19-35; 3225; 4041/89-97/104/6/9; 4333-35/37-40/42-45/60-95; 4698; 4718-32; 6123-48.
Training School, 26
1344-45/49-50/55/68/77/84-86; 1432/34/50; 1462-Static Trainer; 1501/5/8-9/12/14; 1689; 9023 (M723 KPD); 9057 (BT57 ENJ); 9315 (P315 DVE); 9959;
9xxx (BX54 ZWV).
Tagged onto message #8 I have these as in ownership but currently withdrawn with their respective locations - but I wouldn't read too much into those. I have lots of question marks. I've assumed Metrobus 9951 is withdrawn but that may not be the case. 4520 is apparently under repair and I think Tony mentioned that was being undertaken at Yardley Wood garage. I guess Lea Hall no longer holds any vehicles:
244(WN?)
502(PE)/561(PE)/572(PE)/582(WN?)/600(PE)/601(WN?)/633(WN?)/634(WN)/649(PE)/658(PE)/660(PE)/662(WN?)
687(PE)/708(PE)/711(PE)
1401(MS)/1402(MS)/1411(PE)/1413(PE)/1414(PE)/1420(PE)/1421(WA?)/1426(PE)/1427(MS)/1431(WA?)/1436(WA?)/1440(WA?)/1446(WA?)/1447(WA?)/1449(MS)
1452(MS)/1456(MS)/1461(PE)/1471(PE)/1475(WA?)/1476(MS)/1480(MS)
1504(PE)/1507(MS)
1543(PE)/1546(PE)/1548(MS)/1549(PE)/1550(PE)/1553(PE)/1554(PE)/1560(PE)/1570(CV)/1572(CV)/1573(PE)/1579(CV)/1582(WB)/1586(PE)/1589(WB?)/1593(PE)
1594(PE?)/1605(PE)/1612(PE)/1613(WB?)/1616(PE)/1618(MS)/1620(PE)/1627(PE)/1628(PE)/1629(PE)/1630(PE)/1631(WB)/1632(PE)/1636(PE)/1637(PE)/1638(PE)
1639(PE)/1640(PE)/1641(PE)/1642(PE)/1643(PE)/1646(PE)/1647(PE)/1651(MS)/1653(WB)/1657(PE)/1659(CV)/1666(PE)/1667(WB)/1668(PE)/1670(PE)/1671(MS)
1672(MS)/1677(PE)/1678(CV)/1696(PE)/1698(WB)/1700(PE)/1703(CV)/1704(PE)/1705(PE)/1706(PE)/1743(PE)
3601(MS)/3612(MS)
4005(MS?)/4006(WN?)/4007(MS)/4009(WN?)/4010(WN?)/4013(WN)/4017(MS)/4019(MS?)/4020(MS)/4021(MS)/4022(WN)
4050(MS)/4077(MS)/4079(MS)/4098(MS)/4107(MS)
4355(MS)
4520(YWr)
6022(MS)/6023(MS)/6024(MS)/6025(MS)/6026(MS)/6027(MS)/6028(MS)/6029(MS)/6030(MS)/6031(MS)/6032(MS)
7086(MS)
9951(MS)/9955(MS)
You certainly know your stuff Paul!
Quote from: Ronnoc on December 13, 2015, 08:54:06 PM
You certainly know your stuff Paul!
Some of those listed withdrawn may have already been sold; especially the 5xx & 14xx Volvo's and further Mercedes O405N's. I keep an eye on Tony's updates and Flickr/Facebook etc.
I have missed out Xplore Dundee which I think looks like this [well it will do when 4053/56/113 arrive soon]. I'm a bit vague on this - so any updates/changes are welcome:
431-435; 731-734; 1774-1787; 2030-2058; 4025-4026/4028/4036/4042-4043/4045-4046/4053/4056/4074/4103/4110-4113/4115-4124; 4680-4686; 5422-5430;
7001-7018; 7067; 7166-7167/7173/7176/7179 (116 + 3 due)
Crew Bus (1)
7423
Trainers (2)
1366/7151
Withdrawn (14)
7127/7128/7147/7153/7155/7157/7159/7160/7161/7165/7169/7170/7174/7175
THANK YOU all so very much for taking your time to respond. Appreciate this very much.
Quote from: paulb1973 on December 13, 2015, 08:45:38 PM
Tagged onto message #8 I have these as in ownership but currently withdrawn with their respective locations - but I wouldn't read too much into those. I have lots of question marks. I've assumed Metrobus 9951 is withdrawn but that may not be the case. 4520 is apparently under repair and I think Tony mentioned that was being undertaken at Yardley Wood garage. I guess Lea Hall no longer holds any vehicles:
244(WN?)
502(PE)/561(PE)/572(PE)/582(WN?)/600(PE)/601(WN?)/633(WN?)/634(WN)/649(PE)/658(PE)/660(PE)/662(WN?)
687(PE)/708(PE)/711(PE)
1401(MS)/1402(MS)/1411(PE)/1413(PE)/1414(PE)/1420(PE)/1421(WA?)/1426(PE)/1427(MS)/1431(WA?)/1436(WA?)/1440(WA?)/1446(WA?)/1447(WA?)/1449(MS)
1452(MS)/1456(MS)/1461(PE)/1471(PE)/1475(WA?)/1476(MS)/1480(MS)
1504(PE)/1507(MS)
1543(PE)/1546(PE)/1548(MS)/1549(PE)/1550(PE)/1553(PE)/1554(PE)/1560(PE)/1570(CV)/1572(CV)/1573(PE)/1579(CV)/1582(WB)/1586(PE)/1589(WB?)/1593(PE)
1594(PE?)/1605(PE)/1612(PE)/1613(WB?)/1616(PE)/1618(MS)/1620(PE)/1627(PE)/1628(PE)/1629(PE)/1630(PE)/1631(WB)/1632(PE)/1636(PE)/1637(PE)/1638(PE)
1639(PE)/1640(PE)/1641(PE)/1642(PE)/1643(PE)/1646(PE)/1647(PE)/1651(MS)/1653(WB)/1657(PE)/1659(CV)/1666(PE)/1667(WB)/1668(PE)/1670(PE)/1671(MS)
1672(MS)/1677(PE)/1678(CV)/1696(PE)/1698(WB)/1700(PE)/1703(CV)/1704(PE)/1705(PE)/1706(PE)/1743(PE)
3601(MS)/3612(MS)
4005(MS?)/4006(WN?)/4007(MS)/4009(WN?)/4010(WN?)/4013(WN)/4017(MS)/4019(MS?)/4020(MS)/4021(MS)/4022(WN)
4050(MS)/4077(MS)/4079(MS)/4098(MS)/4107(MS)
4355(MS)
4520(YWr)
6022(MS)/6023(MS)/6024(MS)/6025(MS)/6026(MS)/6027(MS)/6028(MS)/6029(MS)/6030(MS)/6031(MS)/6032(MS)
7086(MS)
9951(MS)/9955(MS)
3601 & 9951 are not withdrawn
4107 is not at Miller Street (at YW)
Quote from: Tony on December 14, 2015, 08:14:45 AM
3601 & 9951 are not withdrawn
4107 is not at Miller Street (at YW)
I shall update my records accordingly - I could have added two NX coaches to the list; 87 & 88 which I think are 'withdrawn' at the current moment in time, presumably at Walsall.
Quote from: paulb1973 on December 13, 2015, 08:34:14 PM
Re. garage totals - I have this at the moment, nothing from official sources, just my own notes [not sure if 4528/32 are at WA or AG?] :
I think 4528 is the only one in use at wa now :(
Quote from: BU07 LGO on December 14, 2015, 07:28:54 PM
Quote from: paulb1973 on December 13, 2015, 08:34:14 PM
Re. garage totals - I have this at the moment, nothing from official sources, just my own notes [not sure if 4528/32 are at WA or AG?] :
I think 4528 is the only one in use at wa now :(
It is indeed at WA as it was on the A51 earlier
Was about to ask about 4528 - the other one left in that batch at Walsall (4532) appears to be in paint for AG. Eventually AG will have 4507-34, assuming 4520 returns.
Quote from: paulb1973 on December 14, 2015, 08:18:14 PM
Was about to ask about 4528 - the other one left in that batch at Walsall (4532) appears to be in paint for AG. Eventually AG will have 4507-34, assuming 4520 returns.
I thought someone on here said 4520 was going to become a trainer?
@paulb1973
Quote from: 2206 on December 14, 2015, 08:28:05 PM
I thought someone on hear said 4520 was going to become a trainer?
@paulb1973
Am surprised that NE feel able to get rid of one of the 45xx to become a trainer, surely an older vehicle would have sufficed.
Quote from: 2206 on December 14, 2015, 08:28:05 PM
I thought someone on hear said 4520 was going to become a trainer?
@paulb1973
Yes, I've seen that mentioned on the forum - I don't know if that's official yet. Seems a lot of hassle & expensive to repair a vehicle just for it to become a trainer, but who knows.