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Title: Arriva January service changes
Post by: winston on November 09, 2015, 11:44:34 AM
PD0000478/178 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Shrewsbury Bus Station and Oswestry Bus Station given service number 70 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/415 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Telford Town Centre Bus Station and Shifnal, Victoria Road given service number X92 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Steveminor on November 11, 2015, 03:11:57 PM
Lots more changes too the 1/2/2e the x70 the 6 stafford the 827 the x65 the 74b cancelled & 74^75/75e changed.
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: winston on November 11, 2015, 03:47:06 PM
Cheers @Steveminor - nothing on earlier:

PD0000478/4 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cannock, Bus Station and Lichfield Bus Station given service number 60/X60 effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/6 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton, Lichfield Street and Cannock Bus Stain given service number 70/70A/X70/X70A effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/63 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Gaol Square and Stafford, Rickerscote St Peter's Gardens given service number 6 effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/194 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between CANNOCK BUS STATION and STAFFORDSHIRE UNIVERSITY given service number 75/74/75E effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/201 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Dog-in Tree Estate and Walsall, Hatherton Road given service number 1/2/2E effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/241 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Rugeley Bus Station and Walsall Bus Station given service number 3/3A effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/352 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cannock and Lichfield given service number 62/61 effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/398 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between BRERETON and STAFFORD, EARL STREET given service number 827 effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/428 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Lichfield and Austrey given service number 785/786 effective from 04-Jan-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/434 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Cannock Bus Station and Stafford, Technology Park given service number 74B effective from 03-Jan-2016.

PD0000478/442 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Tamworth, Corporation Street
Finish Point: Lichfield Bus Station
Via:
Service Number: X65
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 04-JAN-2016
Other Details: Mondays to Saturdays every 30 minutes.

PD0000478/443 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Rugeley Bus Station
Finish Point: Rugeley Bus Station
Via:
Service Number: 24
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-JAN-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday daytime, every 30 minutes. No service Xmas Day, Boxing Day or New Years Day. Saturday service on a Good Friday.

PD0000478/444 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Rugeley Bus Station
Finish Point: Rugeley Bus Station
Via:
Service Number: 26
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-JAN-2016
Other Details: No service Xmas Day, Boxing Day or New Years Day. Saturday service on Good Friday.

PD0000478/445 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stafford Town Centre, Gaol Square
Finish Point: Doxey, Greensome Crescent
Via:
Service Number: 12
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 03-JAN-2016
Other Details: No service on Xmas Day, Boxing Day or New Years Day. Saturday service on Good Fridays

Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 11, 2015, 08:42:23 PM
Jesus Christ!  Do they know anything?  Let's have a Network review completely F##k everything over, then re register old routes!  Take it the X60 is axed? The X70 won't run to Rugeley?  Not sure what they plan for the Cannock to Walsall routes. But can't be worse than how they've completely screwed them up now. But the 74B?  Only been running a week. ...
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on November 11, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
Ive heard the 1 and 2 are going back to the original routes.  As for the 74b ive heard its cancelled as they are using the buses on the regular 74 route to make a more frequent service
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: winston on November 11, 2015, 09:01:21 PM
Quote from: LG on November 11, 2015, 08:59:45 PM
Ive heard the 1 and 2 are going back to the original routes.  As for the 74b ive heard its cancelled as they are using the buses on the regular 74 route to make a more frequent service

They can't be, it is only a timetable change on the 1 & 2 VOSA registration above, not route as well
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on November 11, 2015, 09:01:43 PM
60 looks like it will finish at lichfield as the X65 has been re registered which will probably run from tamworth again
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on November 11, 2015, 09:02:50 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 11, 2015, 09:01:21 PM
They can't be, it is only a timetable change on the 1 & 2 VOSA registration above, not route as well

I dont know then, it could be an error its just what I heard
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 11, 2015, 09:03:32 PM
If that's the case it'll be bye bye deckers then. Theyre already surplus.  They need to put some new buses, it was upgraded in 2007 with new 57 plate pulsars then a couple of years ago 2008 vintage deckers. We now get knackered 52 plate ex route 1 commanders ....##fail##
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 11, 2015, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: LG on November 11, 2015, 09:01:43 PM
60 looks like it will finish at lichfield as the X65 has been re registered which will probably run from tamworth again

The X60 was another resounding commercial success then...

I predict the  X70 will pretty much go the same way...

Everything from Cannock Wednesfield is always an epic fail..

Why do they have to constantly keep meddling with the routes? How do passengers keep up ?
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Cheese on November 11, 2015, 09:14:22 PM
Quote from: LG on November 11, 2015, 09:01:43 PM
60 looks like it will finish at lichfield as the X65 has been re registered which will probably run from tamworth again

I would suspect this has been done in part to try to get more concessionary revenue, as anyone travelling across Lichfield will have to swop to another service, so will have to register their pass again (or pay another £1.20).  Or maybe that is just a little cynical?
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 11, 2015, 09:40:20 PM
Quote from: Cheese on November 11, 2015, 09:14:22 PM
I would suspect this has been done in part to try to get more concessionary revenue, as anyone travelling across Lichfield will have to swop to another service, so will have to register their pass again (or pay another £1.20).  Or maybe that is just a little cynical?

So why change it in the first place then? Presumably the X60 will end and all trips will go back to being 60s.  You never know maybe the deckers will make an apoearance
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on November 12, 2015, 05:36:30 PM
Quote from: Bob on November 11, 2015, 09:03:32 PM
If that's the case it'll be bye bye deckers then. Theyre already surplus.  They need to put some new buses, it was upgraded in 2007 with new 57 plate pulsars then a couple of years ago 2008 vintage deckers. We now get knackered 52 plate ex route 1 commanders ....##fail##

I believe the deckers will stay, despite what people say you often see good loadings on the 74 and 75.  The deckers will stay
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on November 12, 2015, 05:38:13 PM
Quote from: Bob on November 11, 2015, 09:07:14 PM
The X60 was another resounding commercial success then...

I predict the  X70 will pretty much go the same way...

Everything from Cannock Wednesfield is always an epic fail..

Why do they have to constantly keep meddling with the routes? How do passengers keep up ?

Could be to do with the rumours of the 825 going back to Cannock so they will probably do 60 then 825 again.  Just a thought bob instead of always presuming a fail
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 12, 2015, 06:59:17 PM
Quote from: LG on November 12, 2015, 05:36:30 PM
I believe the deckers will stay, despite what people say you often see good loadings on the 74 and 75.  The deckers will stay

All this week it's been mainly commanders including at busy times. Pathetic
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: winston on November 17, 2015, 12:22:59 PM
PD0000478/2 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Staffordshire University and Lichfield Bus Station given service number 825/824/829 effective from 03-Jan-2016. To amend Timetable.
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on November 17, 2015, 06:29:36 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 11, 2015, 09:01:21 PM
They can't be, it is only a timetable change on the 1 & 2 VOSA registration above, not route as well

Well the route wont change just the timetable
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: winston on November 17, 2015, 06:30:50 PM
Quote from: LG on November 17, 2015, 06:29:36 PM
Well the route wont change just the timetable

Obviously! As per my reply
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 17, 2015, 07:21:21 PM
They'll just drive people to the train. Both 1 & 2 are never on time in Walsall take a ridiculously long route ( they've basically cut the frequent fast link ) & the changes are pretty unpopular and don't really benefit anyone. To be fair they've turned them to shit....
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on November 17, 2015, 08:50:00 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 17, 2015, 06:30:50 PM
Obviously! As per my reply

What I mean is the route is registered from dog in tree to walsall as per the registration as 1/2/2E.

So maybe they could just change the timetable
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: winston on November 17, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
Quote from: LG on November 17, 2015, 08:50:00 PM
What I mean is the route is registered from dog in tree to walsall as per the registration as 1/2/2E.

So maybe they could just change the timetable

They are only changing the timetable
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 17, 2015, 10:55:37 PM
Making it even worse if that's possible lol?
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on November 18, 2015, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 17, 2015, 08:56:44 PM
They are only changing the timetable

I chrcked with my friend today and he says definately going back to original routes
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: winston on November 18, 2015, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: LG on November 18, 2015, 04:53:50 PM
I chrcked with my friend today and he says definately going back to original routes

The VOSA registrations say otherwise (timetable only), unless there is another registration yet to be published
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 18, 2015, 07:59:10 PM
Well with the 70 coming back & the X70  being reduced to mainly an off peak daytime service which will probably die, the possibility of the 1 &2 going back to original routes, the X60 probably going etc it looks like a lot of things are going to go back to pretty much what they used to be. Why don't arriva admit they haven't got a f#####g clue lol? Can't see the 61 lasting either.  And the pointless 74B. ..
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Cheese on November 18, 2015, 08:21:14 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 18, 2015, 04:58:41 PM
The VOSA registrations say otherwise (timetable only), unless there is another registration yet to be published

VOSA are wrong as ever...  Was looking at the registration change today, routes definitely back to what they were pre-changes.  Didn't look at timetables, suspect frequencies as now.
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on November 18, 2015, 08:27:30 PM
Like I say shows how hopeless they are...constantly messing with the services how are passengers supposed to keep up
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: winston on November 18, 2015, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Cheese on November 18, 2015, 08:21:14 PM
VOSA are wrong as ever...  Was looking at the registration change today, routes definitely back to what they were pre-changes.  Didn't look at timetables, suspect frequencies as now.

Thanks for the confirmation @Cheese, that clears that one up at least
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Adam 404 on December 08, 2015, 06:40:59 PM
Quote from: Bob on November 18, 2015, 07:59:10 PM
Well with the 70 coming back & the X70  being reduced to mainly an off peak daytime service which will probably die, the possibility of the 1 &2 going back to original routes, the X60 probably going etc it looks like a lot of things are going to go back to pretty much what they used to be. Why don't arriva admit they haven't got a f#####g clue lol? Can't see the 61 lasting either.  And the pointless 74B. ..

2E will no longer serve Pye Green
70, 70E & X70. 70 will go via Cheslyn Hay, 70E are the evening journey's.
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 08, 2015, 06:53:42 PM
Crikey it seems like they're always changing services! Where will the 70E run to and from?  And evening service?  Thought the last one was about 730?
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Adam 404 on December 08, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
Quote from: Bob on December 08, 2015, 06:53:42 PM
Crikey it seems like they're always changing services! Where will the 70E run to and from?  And evening service?  Thought the last one was about 730?
@Bob  "70E Arriva Midlands Wolverhampton - Rugeley via Cannock, Cheslyn Hay Late evening and Sunday journeys are renumbered 70E (from 70)"
Source: http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/3January2016.aspx
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 08, 2015, 07:21:23 PM
That is so crap. So they do a network relaunch,  offering improved faster links to wolves, then axe it without really giving a chance. And with the 70 & 1/2, they've just put things back to how they were before the bloody review!  Begs the question what the f##k were they thinking of in the first place and have they got a clue?  Another set of failures! I'd put money on the Cannock circulars being next for the chop...The X70 was handy for me to be fair.  The 71 has  according to recent letters in the paper, missed Longford estate out on several occasions when running late so can't eve  rely on that
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: LG on December 16, 2015, 04:52:22 PM
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/were-making-changes-to-some-bus-services-in-staffordshire--the-west-midlands-from-3-january-2016/
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 16, 2015, 06:24:03 PM
The network review was a major success then LOL! As I predicted X70 axed....that and the 82x  services another load of flops....p##s up? Brewery anyone?
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Westy on December 19, 2015, 01:16:03 PM
Just casually mentioned to the driver going back to Leamore Kfc about the changes & he wasnt aware.

Nice to see communication at Cannock garage is working well!
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 19, 2015, 02:34:41 PM
Looking at the way they constantly keep messing with the sservices, changing them  changing them  back etc I'm not surprised!  It looks like Cannocks network is about as stable as a  basket of snakes!  Lol
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Dennis on December 21, 2015, 10:23:01 AM
Bob, why do you feel the need to repeat the same thing over and over again?  Surely one comment along the lines of "I don't think the network review has been as successful as hoped" would suffice, instead of three or four separate rants...

You also seem to swear an awful lot, even if it is mainly blanked out with hashes.  Is there a need to populate every post with f######g?  You're a very angry man Bob, perhaps you need to talk to someone about your issues.

Have you ever sought counseling?

Have you ever actually worked at a bus company?
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Westy on December 21, 2015, 07:32:55 PM
Quote from: Dennis on December 21, 2015, 10:23:01 AM
Bob, why do you feel the need to repeat the same thing over and over again?  Surely one comment along the lines of "I don't think the network review has been as successful as hoped" would suffice, instead of three or four separate rants...

You also seem to swear an awful lot, even if it is mainly blanked out with hashes.  Is there a need to populate every post with f######g?  You're a very angry man Bob, perhaps you need to talk to someone about your issues.

Have you ever sought counseling?

Have you ever actually worked at a bus company?

He's got a point.
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 21, 2015, 07:57:41 PM
Quote from: Dennis on December 21, 2015, 10:23:01 AM
Bob, why do you feel the need to repeat the same thing over and over again?  Surely one comment along the lines of "I don't think the network review has been as successful as hoped" would suffice, instead of three or four separate rants...

You also seem to swear an awful lot, even if it is mainly blanked out with hashes.  Is there a need to populate every post with f######g?  You're a very angry man Bob, perhaps you need to talk to someone about your issues.

Have you ever sought counseling?

Have you ever actually worked at a bus company?

Take off your rose coloured glasses jesus..."as successful as hoped?" That is putting it very kindly. ..
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 21, 2015, 08:01:19 PM
Oh and trust me im not angry. But the network is a joke and if I was a passenger who relied on them daily, with the constant changes/ reversals/ chopping/ re routing/ launching and subsequently axing/ still pretty regular breakdowns especially prevalent on stafford services I'd be pretty angry....
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Stu on December 21, 2015, 08:40:22 PM
Quote from: Bob on December 21, 2015, 08:01:19 PM
Oh and trust me im not angry. But the network is a joke and if I was a passenger who relied on them daily, with the constant changes/ reversals/ chopping/ re routing/ launching and subsequently axing/ still pretty regular breakdowns especially prevalent on stafford services I'd be pretty angry....

Have you ever taken this up with someone at Staffordshire County Council? Or your local MP?

If you really feel as strongly as you appear to do, ranting on an internet forum will achieve nothing, unless you get it to the attention of someone who really can make a difference!

Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 21, 2015, 09:00:21 PM
I wouldnt spit on Cannocks MP she's awful
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 21, 2015, 09:06:10 PM
And to be fair I'm not ranting about it but come on man, to do a whole network review screw up services then axe most and change timetables again and again then revert to largely what the network was before would suggest someone  somewhere hasn't really got a clue...Other network  reviews elsewhere have been successful so whys cannock and Stafford  been such a massive embarrassing failure?
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Tony on December 21, 2015, 09:19:39 PM
Quote from: Bob on December 21, 2015, 09:00:21 PM
I wouldnt spit on Cannocks MP she's awful

I presume that is just because she is a Conservative?

Actually my son has spoken to her about apprentiships and she seems quite clued up on things
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 21, 2015, 09:45:44 PM
Shes not clued up about housing certainly!  She lied about something in the housing bill and when I pointed it out to her that she was incorrect and highlighted the section of it etc still refused to admit she was wrong.  She also ignored every constituents tweets on tax credits yet answered selectively to others about things like cake shops etc. Shes also blocked loads of people who've asked her awkward questions.  So no not because she's a tory.....
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: mranon on December 21, 2015, 10:06:15 PM
anyhow bob, if you are not happy with the 70, then why not use nx 154 between wolves and Cannock? Its much more reliable, and the drivers are really friendly and helpful.
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Bob on December 21, 2015, 10:17:22 PM
It is reliable true but takes a long time to be fair
Title: Re: Arriva January service changes
Post by: Westy on December 21, 2015, 10:20:49 PM
Quote from: mranon on December 21, 2015, 10:06:15 PM
anyhow bob, if you are not happy with the 70, then why not use nx 154 between wolves and Cannock? Its much more reliable, and the drivers are really friendly and helpful.

Let's hope NX keep it on after the inital year then.

Talking of the MP, are other parties 'helpful' or is it just the Tories that don't like answering certain questions.

(Could be worse, could be that one in Telford currently in the news!)