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Title: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: winston on September 22, 2015, 04:52:49 PM
PD0000478/6 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton, Lichfield Street and Cannock Bus Stain given service number 70/70A/X70/X70A effective from 15-Nov-2015. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/110 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Parkside Avenue and Stafford, Moss Pit, Garth Hotel given service number 8 effective from 15-Nov-2015. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/241 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Rugeley Bus Station and Walsall Bus Station given service number 3 effective from 15-Nov-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/315 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton and Rocket pool given service number 530 effective from 15-Nov-2015. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/342 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton and Perton given service number 10/10A/10B/10S effective from 15-Nov-2015. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/404 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Compton Square given service number 62 effective from 15-Nov-2015.

PD0000478/405 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Variation Accepted: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Willenhall, Upper Lichfield Street given service number 28E effective from 15-Nov-2015. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/436 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Registration Accepted
        Starting Point: Bilston Bus Station
        Finish Point: Penderford Business Park
        Via: Willenhall, Wednesfield, Low Hill, i54
        Service Number: 25
        Service Type: Normal Stopping
        Effective Date: 15-NOV-2015
        Other Details: Sunday daytimes only

PD0000478/437 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Registration Accepted
        Starting Point: Walsall Bus Station
        Finish Point: Manor Hospital (Main Entrance)
        Via: Highgate, Fullbrook, Pleck
        Service Number: 637
        Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
        Effective Date: 15-NOV-2015
        Other Details: Monday to Saturday daytime.

PD0000478/438 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
        Registration Accepted
        Starting Point: Darlaston, St, Lawrence Way
        Finish Point: Woods Estate, Kent Road
        Via: Kings Hill, Wednesbury, Friar Park
        Service Number: 65
        Service Type: Normal Stopping/Hail & Ride
        Effective Date: 15-NOV-2015
        Other Details: Monday to Saturday, shopping period

Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Bob on September 22, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
So the 3 is going to be Rugeley to Walsall not Rugeley -Brownhills then?
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: the trainbasher on September 22, 2015, 05:07:48 PM
The new registrations plus the changes to the 530 look like tender changes
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Cheese on September 22, 2015, 05:10:18 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 22, 2015, 04:57:01 PM
So the 3 is going to be Rugeley to Walsall not Rugeley -Brownhills then?

Not necessarily, DVSA very bad at amending their route description information.
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Bob on September 22, 2015, 05:22:36 PM
That would be unpopular though , people in Norton would lose their link to walsall. The 33 used to be busy to be fair.  Looks like arriva have messed that up too
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Ashley 60171 on September 22, 2015, 05:57:33 PM
I'm curious about the 62 cancellation. Very wishful thinking but don't suppose NX are having it back and putting it back to what it used to be?
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: BK63 YWP on September 22, 2015, 06:09:34 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on September 22, 2015, 05:57:33 PM
I'm curious about the 62 cancellation. Very wishful thinking but don't suppose NX are having it back and putting it back to what it used to be?

Hopefully they do. Either NX will get it back or another route for Igo or maybe Diamond
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Ashley 60171 on September 22, 2015, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: Chris on September 22, 2015, 06:09:34 PM
Hopefully they do. Either NX will get it back or another route for Igo or maybe Diamond

Igo and Diamond weren't interested last year when NX wanted to get rid of the service, why would they change their mind 11 months later?
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: BK63 YWP on September 22, 2015, 06:52:39 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on September 22, 2015, 06:49:45 PM
Igo and Diamond weren't interested last year when NX wanted to get rid of the service, why would they change their mind 11 months later?

Someones got to run the service unless its completely withrawn?
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: woody38 on September 22, 2015, 06:59:40 PM
Anybody now what's happening to the 10 A B
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: 646 on September 22, 2015, 07:26:12 PM
62/A has reached natural expiry.  Outcome not announced yet. Any approved operator can submit a price.

10 changes are to aid reliability of the 10B school journeys, now renumbered 10S which also facilitates a couple of extra trips where there are gaps currently.
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: PM on September 22, 2015, 07:44:59 PM
Quote from: 646 on September 22, 2015, 07:26:12 PM
62/A has reached natural expiry.  Outcome not announced yet. Any approved operator can submit a price.

10 changes are to aid reliability of the 10B school journeys, now renumbered 10S which also facilitates a couple of extra trips where there are gaps currently.

Odd its not on the list of the October changes, which are being implemented November 15th as mentioned above. List I have seen doesn't look complete as Walsall Community Transport 26 is not listed and I know that was a 52 week contract...
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: the trainbasher on September 22, 2015, 07:46:55 PM
Some tenders were not released on the main sheet then as they were no doubt still up for tender
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Bob on September 22, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
Wonder why they're curtailing the X70 already? Why have a massive network review then massively  change things again 7 or 8 weeks later?
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: PM on September 22, 2015, 08:17:33 PM
Quote from: Bob on September 22, 2015, 07:56:20 PM
Wonder why they're curtailing the X70 already? Why have a massive network review then massively  change things again 7 or 8 weeks later?

I've genuinely lost track of some of these services they've been chopped and changed so much. I also dread to think how much paper Arriva waste printing stacks of leaflets for services changed weeks later...
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Bob on September 22, 2015, 08:22:41 PM
The network review obviously didn't work all that well lol
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Westy on September 22, 2015, 10:37:25 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on September 22, 2015, 08:17:33 PM
I've genuinely lost track of some of these services they've been chopped and changed so much. I also dread to think how much paper Arriva waste printing stacks of leaflets for services changed weeks later...

Ain't seen the 1 & 2 leaflet yet!
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: s94 on September 22, 2015, 11:37:54 PM
Indeed even I was just wondering now how frequently the services between Wolverhampton and Cannock seem to be changing. I'm lost so no doubt the passenger is too!
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Cheese on September 23, 2015, 07:45:10 AM
Quote from: Westy on September 22, 2015, 10:37:25 PM
Ain't seen the 1 & 2 leaflet yet!

There were plenty of them in the Pavillions travel shop in Birmingham on Saturday, gawd knows why!
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: LG on September 23, 2015, 03:02:02 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 22, 2015, 10:37:25 PM
Ain't seen the 1 & 2 leaflet yet!

There are plenty of 1 and 2 timetabkes at their depot at cannock.  I have been down and asked for one
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Bob on October 24, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
Are the  Nov changes still happening?  Considering were almost at the  end of October and theres like nothing on the buses advertising anything!
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Kevin on October 24, 2015, 08:36:59 PM
Quote from: Bob on October 24, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
Are the  Nov changes still happening?  Considering were almost at the  end of October and theres like nothing on the buses advertising anything!

So exactly the same as supposed NX service changes then...
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: PM on October 24, 2015, 10:25:10 PM
Quote from: Kevin on October 24, 2015, 08:36:59 PM
So exactly the same as supposed NX service changes then...

Diamond's all published well in advance on the website!
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Cheese on October 24, 2015, 11:10:07 PM
Quote from: Bob on October 24, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
Are the  Nov changes still happening?  Considering were almost at the  end of October and theres like nothing on the buses advertising anything!

From what I have seen the 3 has a minor route change in Norton Canes and some timetable changes to 70/X70 and that's about it. No cutting of journeys to Brownhills or anything. Unless another change has been registered.
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Bob on October 25, 2015, 09:07:28 AM
Yea the number of X70's is being reduced and the 70 is  coming back in the day replacing some X70 journeys.  X70 not been very successful then?
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Ck on October 25, 2015, 11:23:54 AM
I thought the x70 was stopping in Cannock and the 3 was going through to rugeley
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: KarlX96 on November 01, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 22, 2015, 10:37:25 PM
Ain't seen the 1 & 2 leaflet yet!

the 1 and 2 Leaflet is now available in the Walsall, Birmingham, Dudley and West Bromwich travel shops. As Arriva have now signed an agreement with Centro for Arriva to stock their commercially operated route timetables in all travel shops in the west midlands.
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: KarlX96 on November 01, 2015, 06:22:38 PM
Quote from: Bob on October 24, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
Are the  Nov changes still happening?  Considering were almost at the  end of October and theres like nothing on the buses advertising anything!

Here are the Nov changed:

http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/08November15.aspx
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/15November2015.aspx
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/22November2015.aspx
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Bob on November 01, 2015, 08:33:36 PM
Is the X70 being reduced to hourly?
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Cheese on November 01, 2015, 09:16:56 PM
Quote from: Bob on November 01, 2015, 08:33:36 PM
Is the X70 being reduced to hourly?

No, where does it say that?
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Westy on November 01, 2015, 10:43:14 PM
Quote from: KarlX96 on November 01, 2015, 06:15:30 PM
the 1 and 2 Leaflet is now available in the Walsall, Birmingham, Dudley and West Bromwich travel shops. As Arriva have now signed an agreement with Centro for Arriva to stock their commercially operated route timetables in all travel shops in the west midlands.

To be honest, I saw the 1 & 2 a few weeks back in Walsall.

Having Arriva's own leaflets would save money, when they operate the entire route/corridor.

Lets see when the Walsall / Cannock 3 changes to include the 3a journeys won under tender whether we would see Arriva's version only or the NWM one as well.
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Bob on November 02, 2015, 06:56:58 AM
Quote from: Cheese on November 01, 2015, 09:16:56 PM
No, where does it say that?

it doesn't it just says number of journeys reduced.  The changes come in on two weeks and as of yesterday there's nothing on the arriva website!  Or buses. So how are passengers supposed to plan
Title: Re: Arriva November Service Changes
Post by: Cheese on November 02, 2015, 09:39:33 AM
Quote from: Bob on November 02, 2015, 06:56:58 AM
it doesn't it just says number of journeys reduced.  The changes come in on two weeks and as of yesterday there's nothing on the arriva website!  Or buses. So how are passengers supposed to plan

Well Traveline would be a good place to start seeing as the revised times have been on there since last week...