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Title: ADL E400H City London
Post by: BK63 YWP on September 19, 2015, 03:52:26 PM
Found this on Route one

http://www.route-one.net/vehicles/adl-gets-the-london-look/
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: 2900 on September 22, 2015, 11:10:49 AM
Very interesting new bus, gotta say looks good , Wrightbus must be  nervous with this offering from ADL , to the average punter it looks like a borismaster.
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: Mike K on September 22, 2015, 07:13:39 PM
ADL need to up their game on the Hybrid reliability front first. Seems that the B5LH is the preferred Hybrid option with many operators at present, with even Stagecoach buying them (albeit with the E400 MMC body). Certainly the NXWM B5s seem more robust than their E400H counterparts.
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: Liverpool Street on September 27, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Now now @Mike K you're beginning to sound like a volvo fan boy!
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: domino.99 on September 28, 2015, 05:20:47 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on September 27, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Now now @Mike K you're beginning to sound like a volvo fan boy!

Lol exactly what I was thinking :)

But must say looks fantastic wouldn't mind seeing these on the 126 lol
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: Mike K on September 28, 2015, 10:20:57 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on September 27, 2015, 05:13:29 PM
Now now @Mike K you're beginning to sound like a volvo fan boy!

If you read up on it, a lot of operators seem to have had issues with the E400H. I do like them and I like the E400 design and the E400 MMC even more, but the fact that the MMC body is now available on the B5LH and is being bought by Stagecoach in that combination does suggest that ADL can't rely on its own integral product to be the leader in the hybrid market.

From what I've seen I prefer the E400 MMC over the Wright B5TL or the Streetdeck for that matter, but prefer the Wright Volvo single deck over the ADL single deck offerings, so it's swings and roundabouts.
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: T840MAK on September 29, 2015, 07:51:53 AM
Shall I not mention the shambolic Sheffield hybrids then, just mentioning the reliability of ours would surely push any operator towards the B5LH for a hybrid decker ;)
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: winston on September 30, 2015, 04:49:16 PM
Photo's from Coach & Bus live:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/km_edinburgh/sets/72157658874573520
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: BK63 YWP on September 30, 2015, 05:03:17 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 30, 2015, 04:49:16 PM
Photo's from Coach & Bus live:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/km_edinburgh/sets/72157658874573520

Its a double E200 mmc haha, but it does look good and look! Windows that open :O maybe ADLs little poke at the lack of open windows borismasters
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: Mike K on September 30, 2015, 10:36:12 PM
The illegitimate love child of an E200 MMC and a Borismaster.
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: BK63 YWP on September 30, 2015, 10:47:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on September 30, 2015, 10:36:12 PM
The illegitimate love child of an E200 MMC and a Borismaster.

@Mike K love your explanation of the e400hcity design! We need to our E200 mmcs away from the Borismasters
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: MW on October 01, 2015, 12:33:31 AM
Quote from: Chris on September 30, 2015, 10:47:56 PM
@Mike K love your explanation of the e400hcity design! We need to our E200 mmcs away from the Borismasters

Keep them away? Nah that wrightbus technology will no doubt improve these lumps of s***.
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: BK63 YWP on October 01, 2015, 07:58:21 AM
Quote from: MW on October 01, 2015, 12:33:31 AM
Keep them away? Nah that wrightbus technology will no doubt improve these lumps of s***.

@MW are the E200MMC thats bad? I have only been on 2205 and 2209
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: barry619 on October 01, 2015, 05:53:08 PM
I have had a look at the E400H City and it is vastly superior internally to the Gemini 3 B5LH which Wright have been exhibiting at the NEC this week. There is an interesting possibility of the City being built on Volvo chassis in the future should demand justify the development costs, I am told.
Title: Re: ADL E400H City London
Post by: Liverpool Street on October 01, 2015, 07:45:41 PM
Quote from: Mike K on September 30, 2015, 10:36:12 PM
The illegitimate love child of an E200 MMC and a Borismaster.

Oh Michael you certain know how to apply me into good humour.