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Title: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: P419 EJW on June 02, 2015, 08:37:38 PM
Hi everyone,

I recently visited Leeds for the weekend and I saw some buses have this "thing" sticking out near the wheel. I was wondering what this is and should it be at that place or not? One or two buses have had that sticking outside the bus body, it was worrying. I decided to take a picture of it on 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds so I can show it to you, perhaps someone could help answering my question.

Picture - Click here (http://i.imgur.com/Ge8CiH7.jpg).

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: Alex on June 02, 2015, 08:40:05 PM
Probably going to sound a bit thick here, but isn't that some form of Guided busway type wheel?
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: the trainbasher on June 02, 2015, 08:40:12 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 02, 2015, 08:37:38 PM
Hi everyone,

I recently visited Leeds for the weekend and I saw some buses have this "thing" sticking out near the wheel. I was wondering what this is and should it be at that place or not? One or two buses have had that sticking outside the bus body, it was worrying. I decided to take a picture of it on 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds so I can show it to you, perhaps someone could help answering my question.

Picture - Click here (http://i.imgur.com/Ge8CiH7.jpg).

Thanks in advance.

Guide wheel for one of the local guided busways (similar to the Cambridge one
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: P419 EJW on June 02, 2015, 08:53:58 PM
Okay, thank you both. Could you explain a bit more about the guide wheel, please?
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: MW on June 02, 2015, 09:26:10 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on June 02, 2015, 08:53:58 PM
Okay, thank you both. Could you explain a bit more about the guide wheel, please?

A guideway is basically two Kassell kerbs on either side of a bus only lane. The thing on the wheels glides against the kerb thus steering the bus around bends. Basically the driver doesn't have to steer. I don't know what the point of it is but hey.
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: Cheese on June 02, 2015, 09:46:48 PM
Quote from: MW on June 02, 2015, 09:26:10 PM
A guideway is basically two Kassell kerbs on either side of a bus only lane. The thing on the wheels glides against the kerb thus steering the bus around bends. Basically the driver doesn't have to steer. I don't know what the point of it is but hey.

The guideway is off the main carriageway so the bus is not stuck in traffic with everything else, in Leeds they are along York Road and Scott Hall Road which are dual carriageways so the guideway is either along the middle of the road or alongside it.  I remember having a guideway demonstration many years ago behind Midland Road bus depot in Rotherham at a depot open day which had a guideway fitted as a test and guidewheels fitted to Metrobus 1894.
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: MW on June 02, 2015, 09:50:14 PM
Quote from: Cheese on June 02, 2015, 09:46:48 PM
The guideway is off the main carriageway so the bus is not stuck in traffic with everything else, in Leeds they are along York Road and Scott Hall Road which are dual carriageways so the guideway is either along the middle of the road or alongside it.  I remember having a guideway demonstration many years ago behind Midland Road bus depot in Rotherham at a depot open day which had a guideway fitted as a test and guidewheels fitted to Metrobus 1894.

They had it here didn't they, tracline was it called? The 65 I think.
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: P419 EJW on June 03, 2015, 12:17:08 AM
Useful information given, I've learned somethimg new today, thank you guys! Glad I asked.
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: Gareth on June 03, 2015, 01:52:58 AM
I'm not sure if it's still there, but it certainly was 3/4 years ago, but at the Short Heath terminus there still is/was a 'No Entry, guided buses only' road sign.
Title: Re: 39221 Volvo B5LH First Leeds.
Post by: busfan2847 on June 03, 2015, 05:49:33 PM
Quote from: MW on June 02, 2015, 09:50:14 PM
They had it here didn't they, tracline was it called? The 65 I think.
Yes. The main site has a picture, I took, of the only non Tracline liveried bus used on the busway, at the Stockland Green end. 2686 was the prototype for the tracline vehicles.

bottom photo on

http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/gonebatches/2436to2735/2686.html