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Title: Diamonds off Route
Post by: the trainbasher on April 01, 2015, 09:07:53 PM
Today I've seen two diamond vehicles both off route.

One was a 16 instead of using Hockley Circus, decided to use the Flyover There.

A second one I saw was a 81 going via Pedmore Road instead of the route via Level Street and the cinema at Merry hill.

Quite often I've seen Diamond 226s use High Oak instead of the route via Bradley street and seen a couple miss out the estates between Wordsley and Brierley Hill.

Is this not a licence breach?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 646 on April 01, 2015, 09:32:19 PM
It would depend on reason for the curtailment/diversion and whether this had been appropriately reported and documented, i.e. via the Traffic Office with lost mileage or similar.

If a complaint had been raised or if DVSA had monitored and the above was not present, then there would be an issue.

Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: PM on April 01, 2015, 10:06:00 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 01, 2015, 09:07:53 PM
Today I've seen two diamond vehicles both off route.

One was a 16 instead of using Hockley Circus, decided to use the Flyover There.

A second one I saw was a 81 going via Pedmore Road instead of the route via Level Street and the cinema at Merry hill.

Quite often I've seen Diamond 226s use High Oak instead of the route via Bradley street and seen a couple miss out the estates between Wordsley and Brierley Hill.

Is this not a licence breach?

Did this honestly need a new thread?!

Your hatred of Diamond has just got extremely boring and stupid...
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: the trainbasher on April 01, 2015, 10:26:49 PM
Quote from: DiamondDart on April 01, 2015, 10:06:00 PM
Did this honestly need a new thread?!

Your hatred of Diamond has just got extremely boring and stupid...

Sorry but I'm calling a spade a spade and a shovel a shovel. I would say the same if it was NXWM, GRS or even Arriva!
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: StourportSam on April 02, 2015, 10:04:04 AM
Quote from: DiamondDart on April 01, 2015, 10:06:00 PM
Did this honestly need a new thread?!

Your hatred of Diamond has just got extremely boring and stupid...


I agree. This is all speculation and observation, no facts and reasons as to why each bus went the way they did. I have been on plenty of buses that have diverted off their route and every time it has been down to RTCs, roadworks and a few times driver error. If there are serious problems as you seem determined to prove the appropriate authorities will investigate and take necessary action, surely. Its getting rather tiresome to read constant posts on the Rotala thread that this bus was 5 minutes late and that bus design is horrible etc.

Surely if someone wishes to get Diamond in trouble which seems the case they would be better reporting incidents to the authorities rather than posting every detail here?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: the trainbasher on April 02, 2015, 10:24:32 AM
Quote from: StourportSam on April 02, 2015, 10:04:04 AM

I agree. This is all speculation and observation, no facts and reasons as to why each bus went the way they did. I have been on plenty of buses that have diverted off their route and every time it has been down to RTCs, roadworks and a few times driver error. If there are serious problems as you seem determined to prove the appropriate authorities will investigate and take necessary action, surely. Its getting rather tiresome to read constant posts on the Rotala thread that this bus was 5 minutes late and that bus design is horrible etc.

Surely if someone wishes to get Diamond in trouble which seems the case they would be better reporting incidents to the authorities rather than posting every detail here?

So deliberately avoiding parts of the route on the 226 yet the Hansons near enough behind is running NLR is acceptable?

I would ask the same questions if Arriva, NXWM, or even another company were to do it.

Furthermore diamond don't do anything with complaints except say the usual corporate lines (and trust me, I know what they mean working in Local government you learn how to say the opposite of what you mean in a letter!)

As they say a lion cannot change its stripes
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 646 on April 02, 2015, 10:40:25 AM
That would be a tiger surely?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: the trainbasher on April 02, 2015, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: 646 on April 02, 2015, 10:40:25 AM
That would be a tiger surely?

Yeah that as well :)
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 02, 2015, 11:33:18 AM
This thread is another dig at diamond, and is getting boring, just because the 226 is always late

@the trainbasher has backed up his points with examples, so no problem with what's been posted to date. If it starts another argument, the thread will be locked & those involved will be taking a holiday from the forum
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on April 03, 2015, 10:17:48 AM
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 01, 2015, 09:07:53 PM
One was a 16 instead of using Hockley Circus, decided to use the Flyover There.


Curious one that, even in heavy traffic around the circus itself I've never seen a 16 (or indeed 74/75 & 78/79 from back in the day) take a short cut, quite a lot of people use that stop.
Hasten to add, that includes Diamond, before anyone suggests bias
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: JPC on April 14, 2015, 06:20:11 PM
30019 on Coventry bound service 82 wandering through New Union St, Coventry at about 16:15, driver unaware of or forgot the Corporation St closure exacerbating the lateness.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 28, 2015, 04:21:32 PM
002 branded centre in wB bus station
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on June 08, 2015, 07:36:15 AM
002 branded Centro just arriving in Brum on the 56
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Matt.N0056 on June 27, 2015, 05:19:45 PM
The 30 in Solihull has been on some adventures today. Not entirely sure where the driver has ended up but got lost on several occasions!
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Tara4352 on July 02, 2015, 02:08:47 PM
30886 on 40 but branded for the 29
30888 on 42 but branded for the 29
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Tara4352 on July 19, 2015, 09:51:21 PM
30887 205 002 Branded
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 19, 2015, 09:56:03 PM
Quote from: Rhys S on July 19, 2015, 09:51:21 PM
30887 205 002 Branded

1) I presume you mean 30807
2) I'm sure the 002 and 205 inter work in an evening
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Ashley 60171 on July 19, 2015, 10:32:27 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 19, 2015, 09:56:03 PM
1) I presume you mean 30807
2) I'm sure the 002 and 205 inter work in an evening

No, the 127 and 205 interwork evenings and Sundays. Sunday allocation is anything I think but evenings its a B7 off the 4 and an MPD off the 142 I think (stand to be corrected)
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 20, 2015, 09:43:36 AM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 19, 2015, 10:32:27 PM
No, the 127 and 205 interwork evenings and Sundays. Sunday allocation is anything I think but evenings its a B7 off the 4 and an MPD off the 142 I think (stand to be corrected)

An evening 205 does come off 002's.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Tara4352 on July 20, 2015, 10:07:39 AM
i seen it yesterday morning on the 205 but posted it last night cause i was busy
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 4747 on July 21, 2015, 06:42:30 PM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on July 19, 2015, 10:32:27 PM
No, the 127 and 205 interwork evenings and Sundays. Sunday allocation is anything I think but evenings its a B7 off the 4 and an MPD off the 142 I think (stand to be corrected)

be corrected 1 does come off the 002. The other runs from the depot
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2015, 05:08:38 PM
30886-4H

@Trident 4194 - No such fleetnumber

Sorry @Winston corrected now
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Tara4352 on August 10, 2015, 07:02:38 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 06, 2015, 05:08:38 PM
30886-4H

@Trident 4194 - No such fleetnumber

Sorry @Winston corrected now
30886 002
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 15, 2015, 04:14:26 PM
30834-4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on September 27, 2015, 01:10:08 PM
One of the 29 branded darts is on the 4 to West Brom, 13:08 at All Saints
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on October 09, 2015, 11:44:56 AM
Both yesterday and today, there was/is a 29 branded Dart on the 600
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on December 02, 2015, 10:45:38 AM
29 branded Dart 30888 off route again today, on the 40
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on January 28, 2016, 05:43:18 PM
30855 (301/302 branded) on the 108, 17:45 ex city
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 900 on January 28, 2016, 07:22:31 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 28, 2016, 05:43:18 PM
30855 (301/302 branded) on the 108, 17:45 ex city
Was on 16s around 1pm
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Stu on February 02, 2016, 08:16:43 PM
Whilst heading to work this morning on the 37, I noticed a 36 coming from Battery Way in Tyseley onto the Warwick Road. It was showing 'Sparkhill' on the display, and appeared to have a couple of passengers onboard. Anyone know if there was a diversion this morning, or if the driver was just taking a shortcut?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Niall on March 16, 2016, 04:21:43 PM
29 branded dart 30887 was on the 40 in West Brom this morning.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: RS on March 17, 2016, 09:53:40 PM
30833 301/302 Branded B7RLE working the 108 this evening
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Niall on March 18, 2016, 10:21:53 PM
Quote from: Niall on March 16, 2016, 04:21:43 PM
29 branded dart 30887 was on the 40 in West Brom this morning.

30888's turn in West Brom today, on the 42 this afternoon
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Niall on March 24, 2016, 06:07:19 PM
Quote from: Niall on March 18, 2016, 10:21:53 PM
30888's turn in West Brom today, on the 42 this afternoon

and again today - 30888 on 40
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Niall on March 30, 2016, 04:22:25 PM
301/302 branded buses:
30855 on 40 yesterday
30832 on 4 today
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 30, 2016, 05:54:16 PM
30879 has been on 4H. Fantastic bus!
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Dom on April 07, 2016, 02:00:26 PM
29 branded on the 226.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 31, 2016, 02:59:45 PM
 29 branded 30887 on Tividale 23.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 01, 2016, 09:07:48 AM
002 branded 30811 on Tividale 301.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 01, 2016, 01:26:12 PM
301 branded on 002
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 05, 2016, 01:48:02 PM
002 branded 30809 on Tividale 4/H.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on June 08, 2016, 01:38:16 PM
002 branded 30881 on Tividale 40.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 08, 2016, 05:12:12 PM
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 08, 2016, 01:38:16 PM
002 branded 30881 on Tividale 40.

30929 and 30409 are on the 002 instead
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 900 on June 08, 2016, 07:20:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 08, 2016, 05:12:12 PM
30929 and 30409 are on the 002 instead

I'm surprised that 30929 made it up colley gate very slow
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: RS on July 15, 2016, 01:15:26 PM
30886 thinks it's a Kidderminster Bus as its displaying 1 Rifle Range when in actual fact it's on the 40 Wednesbury to West Bromwich

30888 on the other hand is on the 4 West Bromwich to Walsall
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 22, 2016, 01:35:48 PM
002 branded on 4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 23, 2016, 12:40:56 PM
30810-4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: P419 EJW on July 25, 2016, 02:37:53 PM
BK10 MFY (002) on 29.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 25, 2016, 03:42:21 PM
30833-4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on July 30, 2016, 04:09:01 PM
002 branded Centro is on the 301
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on August 28, 2016, 04:20:35 PM
002 branded Centro on the 71
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on September 02, 2016, 06:00:03 PM
002 branded 30809 on the 16, 18:00 Moor Street Queensway
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 02, 2016, 06:13:20 PM
Quote from: Kevin on September 02, 2016, 06:00:03 PM
002 branded 30809 on the 16, 18:00 Moor Street Queensway

That explains 30815 and solo on 002
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Mercedes1665 on September 02, 2016, 11:40:38 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 02, 2016, 06:13:20 PM
That explains 30815 and solo on 002

I don't think it was 30815 on the 002 it was 30508
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 03, 2016, 08:39:19 AM
Quote from: Mercedes1665 on September 02, 2016, 11:40:38 PM
I don't think it was 30815 on the 002 it was 30508

All I knew was it had green instead of red on logo
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Cedric on September 03, 2016, 09:53:41 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 03, 2016, 08:39:19 AM
All I knew was it had green instead of red on logo
it's one from diamond north west   as it has green logo on
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: StourportSam on September 06, 2016, 10:27:48 AM
The 25 branded Eclipse was on the 3 a few days ago, possibly Saturday.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Will on October 08, 2016, 09:21:03 PM
Just seen a 301 branded B7RLE (30832, MX08NNU) on the 71 at Castle Bromwich
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on November 12, 2016, 04:09:46 PM
30880-4H
301/302 branded on 40/42/43?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on December 29, 2016, 12:53:45 PM
002 branded 30808 on the 302.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on January 19, 2017, 09:15:27 AM
301/2 branded 30855 on the 43.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Solo1 on February 06, 2017, 06:05:33 PM
301/2. On 108 & 002 on 16 one of the new 002 branded ones
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on February 08, 2017, 05:09:16 PM
30811-4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: winston on February 25, 2017, 04:47:17 PM
301/2 branded B7RLE 30834 is on the 002
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 2206 on March 20, 2017, 05:37:44 PM
002 branded 30808 is on the 16/W.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 21, 2017, 05:57:24 PM
002 branded on 4H today
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on May 01, 2017, 04:53:48 PM
002 branded 30808 is on Tividale's 71 today.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on May 08, 2017, 10:33:23 AM
002 branded Centro on the 40
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 2206 on July 08, 2017, 03:38:36 PM
A 002 branded bus is on the Birmingham City Centre to Maypole 50.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 16, 2017, 05:59:04 PM
301/2 branded 30855 is on the 77.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Westy on July 16, 2017, 06:08:59 PM
There was a 002 on the 301 earlier.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 16, 2017, 11:32:08 PM
Quote from: Westy on July 16, 2017, 06:08:59 PM
There was a 002 on the 301 earlier.

It was 30811 @Westy.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on July 23, 2017, 06:08:58 PM
4/H branded 30942 is on the 301 and 29 today.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: WMT3000 on August 22, 2017, 04:16:11 PM
30942 - 4/4H branded b7rle on the 16w.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on August 22, 2017, 05:35:09 PM
Quote from: WMT3000 on August 22, 2017, 04:16:11 PM
30942 - 4/4H branded b7rle on the 16w.
It was on the 16 when I saw it by the Markets.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on September 23, 2017, 12:04:19 PM
4 branded Urban 1 on the 16
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on October 01, 2017, 08:36:43 PM
002 branded Centro (30811 I think) on the 16 in Brum today
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on November 07, 2017, 09:16:45 PM
228 branded on 250 again today. What is on the 228 then?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on December 03, 2017, 12:20:21 PM
4 branded Urban 2 on the 71
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on February 10, 2018, 01:52:45 PM
002 branded Centro on 302.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on February 25, 2018, 04:23:16 PM
30833 (301/302) - 29
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: V89MOA on March 06, 2018, 05:19:04 PM
30855 is on the 16.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on April 14, 2018, 04:38:54 PM
301/2 Branded Urban on the 16/W.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on April 23, 2018, 08:14:38 AM
Saw a Diamond B7RLE displaying 16W and with passengers on board coming up Masshouse Lane in city centre this morning 08:10
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on April 23, 2018, 08:47:19 AM
Quote from: Kevin on April 23, 2018, 08:14:38 AM
Saw a Diamond B7RLE displaying 16W and with passengers on board coming up Masshouse Lane in city centre this morning 08:10

Snow Hill to City still closed. Watched one of the Centros reversing out of Dale End earlier. He had turned in to there and seen the bridge
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: P419 EJW on April 26, 2018, 03:18:32 PM
YJ56 YDO (4/4H) on 16.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 29, 2018, 12:06:19 PM
30808-4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on May 03, 2018, 10:24:55 AM
301/2 branded 30855 on the 16
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on May 09, 2018, 01:56:27 PM
30833-002
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on May 29, 2018, 01:40:35 PM
301/302 branded B7RLE on 16W, 13:40 city centre heading for markets
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on May 29, 2018, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: Kevin on May 29, 2018, 01:40:35 PM
301/302 branded B7RLE on 16W, 13:40 city centre heading for markets

30855
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: P419 EJW on June 16, 2018, 07:59:49 PM
BU08 DCE (002) was on the 50 today (16/06).
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on June 23, 2018, 11:38:51 AM
30808 (002) - 50
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on June 25, 2018, 10:06:04 PM
30834-16
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Solo1 on June 25, 2018, 11:18:40 PM
002 branded  on 78
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on June 26, 2018, 03:31:11 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on June 25, 2018, 11:18:40 PM
002 branded  on 78
That's the first time the 78 has had a non-Dart allocation since the takeover. It's been solid Dart until yesterday. Shame I didn't see it!
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: metrocity on June 26, 2018, 04:17:27 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 26, 2018, 03:31:11 PM
That's the first time the 78 has had a non-Dart allocation since the takeover. It's been solid Dart until yesterday. Shame I didn't see it!
Not correct. There was a 59 reg Solo on it last Saturday for example !
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: metrocity on June 28, 2018, 05:43:05 PM
Enviro 300 KV03 ZGK 30488 was on the 78 today with a faulty destination display
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on June 28, 2018, 08:36:16 PM
Quote from: Jack on June 26, 2018, 03:31:11 PM
That's the first time the 78 has had a non-Dart allocation since the takeover. It's been solid Dart until yesterday. Shame I didn't see it!

And you've seen every single journey on it then I suppose?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on July 07, 2018, 01:30:14 PM
4 branded 30942 on the 16
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on July 07, 2018, 01:32:37 PM
30855-002- missed  out a trip to Weoley
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on July 21, 2018, 11:43:29 AM
30808 (002) - 50
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on August 08, 2018, 02:33:04 PM
301/302 branded 30855 on the 50, 14:30 at the Maypole
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: WMT3000 on September 17, 2018, 06:03:13 PM
002 branded on 16/W.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 20, 2018, 04:36:07 PM
42/43 new west midland branded on the 32 to lower farm
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on September 22, 2018, 01:26:28 PM
30969 at Brum markets displaying "16 - Kingsbury via Dosthill"
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on September 22, 2018, 04:40:11 PM
30940-4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: I love Walsall buses on September 29, 2018, 11:35:10 PM
30940-16W this week,credit to mark for the photo,I also saw it in the bus station
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/44082516425/in/dateposted
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Mercedes1665 on October 06, 2018, 12:40:46 AM
20920 on the 12
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Kevin on October 08, 2018, 05:04:38 PM
4/4H branded 30412 arriving into West Brom as a 16W 17:05
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on October 31, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
30811 (002) - 4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on October 31, 2018, 06:54:26 PM
Quote from: Jack on October 31, 2018, 06:47:43 PM
30811 (002) - 4H

Replaced 30929 which seems to constantly break down
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: WMT3000 on November 18, 2018, 03:29:31 PM
30925 (42/43 branded) - 31.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Michael Bevan on December 24, 2018, 04:12:03 PM
31/2 branded 30923 is on afternoon 108E's today.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 2206 on December 27, 2018, 05:11:22 PM
4/4H branded 30412 is on the 16.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Stu on December 27, 2018, 05:17:01 PM
Didn't see the fleetnumber as it raced past me, but there's a 002 branded bus on the 50.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: WMT3000 on December 31, 2018, 05:58:34 PM
42/43 branded 30526 did the 108e from Brum to Sutton this evening.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: I love Walsall buses on December 31, 2018, 06:27:06 PM
Quote from: WMT3000 on December 31, 2018, 05:58:34 PM
42/43 branded 30526 did the 108e from Brum to Sutton this evening.
Report from Facebook aswell of 31/32 and 42/43 doing it nearly all of last week
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: WMT3000 on December 31, 2018, 06:44:40 PM
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on December 31, 2018, 06:27:06 PM
Report from Facebook aswell of 31/32 and 42/43 doing it nearly all of last week
I'm not on Facebook so hadn't realised the 42/43 branded one had been on there. I did see the 31/32 branded last week though.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4609 on January 27, 2019, 01:20:32 PM
30051 (226 branded Solo SR) on the 71 (Sutton Coldfield to Chelmsley Wood).
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on January 28, 2019, 07:51:32 PM
4 branded B7RLE was on the 78 in Sutton today
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: John on February 02, 2019, 12:32:32 PM
31 32 branded B7RLE on the 78 in Sutton. Think it is 30923
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: DJ on February 09, 2019, 01:14:10 PM
30808 (002) - 16W
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: MasterPlan on February 16, 2019, 07:34:44 AM
002 branded B7RLE parked up by the Bull Ring on the 50.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: DJ on March 01, 2019, 07:51:39 PM
31/32 branded B7RLE on 42/43
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: CL on March 07, 2019, 07:57:31 AM
30808 (002) - 16/16W
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: DJ on March 08, 2019, 03:41:40 PM
30952 (002 branded) - 40 Wednesbury
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: 2206 on March 12, 2019, 03:30:24 PM
30952 - 16 (002 Branded).
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: I love Walsall buses on March 13, 2019, 05:08:22 PM
30411 (4/4H)-31/32 just gone past bloxwich asda
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on March 15, 2019, 10:38:48 AM
30952 (002) - 16/16W
Displaying "16 West Bromwich" too.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: DJ on March 22, 2019, 10:22:59 AM
002 branded Centro - 229
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 25, 2019, 01:14:32 PM
21103-142
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: I love Walsall buses on April 15, 2019, 11:34:59 PM
UNID 002 branded on the 35A
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on April 16, 2019, 03:37:42 PM
30810 (002) - 16/16W
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on April 19, 2019, 05:23:17 PM
226 branded streetlite on 24 MH
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on April 20, 2019, 11:02:10 AM
30810 (002) - 4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: I love Walsall buses on July 08, 2019, 11:56:52 PM
30925 (42/43) 31/32
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on July 13, 2019, 02:25:09 PM
30411 (4/4H) - 16
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: CL on July 24, 2019, 12:11:28 PM
Quote from: Jack on July 13, 2019, 02:25:09 PM
30411 (4/4H) - 16
30412 (4/4H) - 16, today
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: BusMan Greg on July 27, 2019, 08:01:42 PM
21104 228 branded on 250
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: MasterPlan on August 01, 2019, 05:07:14 PM
42/43 branded B7RLE on the 002.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: CL on December 15, 2019, 02:10:37 PM
20164 (226) - 16
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 15, 2019, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: CL on December 15, 2019, 02:10:37 PM
20164 (226) - 16

Usual Sunday allocations now. 226 branded streetlites on 4H too presumably for same reason nx put there platinum buses out on anything on a Sunday
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 15, 2019, 09:32:22 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 15, 2019, 05:50:49 PM
Usual Sunday allocations now. 226 branded streetlites on 4H too presumably for same reason nx put there platinum buses out on anything on a Sunday
My 4H on a Sunday is normally a Mellor or a 002 Streetlite or a B7 I have never seen or boarded a 226 branded one ever on it on a Sunday.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 15, 2019, 09:32:22 PM
My 4H on a Sunday is normally a Mellor or a 002 Streetlite or a B7 I have never seen or boarded a 226 branded one ever on it on a Sunday.

Well I have and I have never ever seen a mellor on a 4H on a subday
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 08:51:09 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 08:30:36 AM
Well I have and I have never ever seen a mellor on a 4H on a subday
The last Sunday I used it both way to the baths, before yesterday none on yesterday, usually the last Saturday ones are usually always Mellors too. Even in the week they pop up but never ever seen a 226 branded Streetlite on the route though there usually of the 002, the 226 ones are usually on the 16.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 09:02:48 AM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 08:51:09 AM
Last Sunday both way to the baths, none on yesterday I used but the last Saturday ones are usually always Mellors too. Even in the week they pop up but never ever seen a 226 branded Streetlite on the route though there usually of the 002, the 226 ones are usually on the 16.

The 4H yesterday was filled with 226 branded streetlites.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 09:11:13 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 09:02:48 AM
The 4H yesterday was filled with 226 branded streetlites.
Well I never used one yesterday to and from Halesowen Baths & Wetherspoons and have never ever seen one on the 4H on a Sunday
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: MW on December 16, 2019, 09:27:12 AM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 09:11:13 AM
Well I never used one yesterday to and from Halesowen Baths & Wetherspoons and have never ever seen one on the 4H on a Sunday

Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 09:02:48 AM
The 4H yesterday was filled with 226 branded streetlites.

Yesterday:

20159 on 4
20164 on 16
20165 on 4H
20167 on 4H
32233 on 16
32237 on 16
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 09:45:49 AM
Quote from: MW on December 16, 2019, 09:27:12 AM
Yesterday:

20159 on 4
20164 on 16
20165 on 4H
20167 on 4H
32233 on 16
32237 on 16

Either he doesn't know his bus types or he has a few too many at the spoons haha
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 09:45:49 AM
Either he doesn't know his bus types or he has a few too many at the spoons haha
The B7 was the  allocation on.the 08.44 from Gorsty Hill I can assure you it wasn't a 226 Branded Streetlite on that or on the 17.15 the last full 4H. I didn't catch either of the shorts so cannot comment on 18.15
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: MW on December 16, 2019, 11:27:23 AM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 10:46:08 AM
That wasnt the  allocation on.the 08.44 from Gorsty Hill or the last one of the day from Halesowen I can assure you if there any 226 branded on yesterdays 4H I didnt see any and have never seen on the 4H on a Sunday

08:44 was operated by 30407; a Volvo B7RLE.

18.15 from Halesowen (last 4H of the day) was operated by 20167; a 226 branded Wright Streetlite. Did you catch the 18.15 bus?

The four buses on the 4H yesterday were
20165
20167
30407
30413 (later replaced by 30410)

20165/167 are both branded for the 226.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 11:37:30 AM
Yes it was a B7 at 8.44 I posted that wrongly I meant to post 17.15 is the last 4H the 18.15 is a short, apologies I was on the last full one at 17.15 and that wasn't a 226 branded Streetlite. I have honestly never seen one on it I don't  doubt your records I use it every Sunday but have never seen one so can't it agree its always 226 ones that all.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: MW on December 16, 2019, 11:42:56 AM
The previous Sunday (8th December), the following were on the 4H.

20159
20161
20164

All 3 are 226 branded.


The last 4H on a Sunday leaves Hayley Green at 18:08 & Halesowen at 18:15. 20167 is tracking as arriving into Blackheath at 18:26:43 on 15/12/2019.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 12:02:08 PM
The previous Sunday I used the 14 which I rarely do as a mate was getting on to do lane swimming with me at the stop in Kent Road so cannot comment and also returned on the 14 but that is a rare occurrence
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: winston on December 16, 2019, 01:01:59 PM
226 branded 20164 on the 4's on Sunday 26th May:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/266758420434642/permalink/794363907674088/
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4609 on December 16, 2019, 01:25:54 PM
There is one that comes out about lunchtime on the 4 on a Sunday and has for a while, that is always a 226 branded Streetlite, as it goes onto work 226's in the evening. As pointed out, they've started using spare 226 branded Streetlites on the 4H now as well.

The spare longer Streetlites are on the 16 usually.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 02:23:36 PM
Quote from: Nathan on December 16, 2019, 01:25:54 PM
There is one that comes out about lunchtime on the 4 on a Sunday and has for a while, that is always a 226 branded Streetlite, as it goes onto work 226's in the evening. As pointed out, they've started using spare 226 branded Streetlites on the 4H now as well.

The spare longer Streetlites are on the 16 usually.
Yes I have seen them on the 16 on a Sunday if I find one on the 4H on a Sunday will post it, you all have me curious now why they aren't on the journeys I use I will keep you posted on this, just as an aside do any think they may use the Mellors on it on Boxing Day?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 02:43:24 PM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 02:23:36 PM
Yes I have seen them on the 16 on a Sunday if I find one on the 4H on a Sunday will post it, you all have me curious now why they aren't on the journeys I use I will keep you posted on this, just as an aside do any think they may use the Mellors on it on Boxing Day?

I have never ever seen a mellor on a 4H on Sunday. Has anyone else or are getting false information again?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 03:14:03 PM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 02:43:24 PM
I have never ever seen a mellor on a 4H on Sunday. Has anyone else or are getting false information again?
From when they first came on service around this time last year I have had about half a dozen Mellors or so on a Sunday, they are more common on Late Saturday Afternoons and early evenings to be fair got one to Halesowen just after 7pm from Blackheath to Halesowen a week last Saturday. It certainly not false information have just got back home on a regular B7 4H I use it 7 days a week when I am on holiday, at weekends & evenings when I am not, will be on it again tonight after 7pm on the 4H Oldbury short. Like the Hagley Rd services I doubt you have another poster who uses the 4H as regular as I do & always DIAMOND.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 16, 2019, 04:02:21 PM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 03:14:03 PM
From when they first came on service around this time last year I have had about half a dozen Mellors or so on a Sunday, they are more common on Late Saturday Afternoons and early evenings to be fair got one to Halesowen just after 7pm from Blackheath to Halesowen a week last Saturday. It certainly not false information have just got back home on a regular B7 4H I use it 7 days a week when I am on holiday, at weekends & evenings when I am not, will be on it again tonight after 7pm on the 4H Oldbury short. Like the Hagley Rd services I doubt you have another poster who uses the 4H as regular as I do & always DIAMOND.

I live on the route you muppet. Of course you know best though. This guy honestly 😂 @MW

@Trident 4194 - You're not really in the position to be calling people Muppets given the quality & accuracy of your posts, knock the name calling on the head or you'll be taking a break! Winston
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 04:20:02 PM
No its Ok Winston, I have been called a lot worse and @Trident 4194 is entitled to his opinion it seems I get posters to engage although that is not my intention so much, it would appear I have a different perception to others with the 4H as with previous topics unfortunately. I too live on the route and will be using it for the second time after 7pm I only hope @Trident 4194 also uses its as regularly in order to maintain the commercial viability when competing about NXWM. For the record my favourite Muppet is "Animal" we are so much alike I am told by fellow accountants.



Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on December 16, 2019, 08:29:12 PM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 16, 2019, 04:20:02 PM
No its Ok Winston, I have been called a lot worse and @Trident 4194 is entitled to his opinion it seems I get posters to engage although that is not my intention so much, it would appear I have a different perception to others with the 4H as with previous topics unfortunately. I too live on the route and will be using it for the second time after 7pm I only hope @Trident 4194 also uses its as regularly in order to maintain the commercial viability when competing about NXWM. For the record my favourite Muppet is "Animal" we are so much alike I am told by fellow accountants.
Do you ever stop moaning? X8 and now 4H, will you start whinging about the entirety of Blackheath's services or the entirety of the Black Country's buses?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 17, 2019, 07:25:23 AM
Well the answer is yes @Jack last nights 19:26 4H From Gorsty Hill To Oldbury was as ever an excellent example of the high standards DIAMOND BUS operate compered to the other hopelessly incompetent  bus operator on the route that fails to serve Blackheath sucessfully in any form what so ever the idiots that run the rival company so laughably  should look at the excellent route management, operations and vechicle standards of Diamond Bus and learn from it on how to operate a proper bus service. In reply.to your question have I no moans about DIAMOND BUS 4H or 231
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on December 17, 2019, 08:57:41 PM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 17, 2019, 07:25:23 AM
Well the answer is yes @Jack last nights 19:26 4H From Gorsty Hill To Oldbury was as ever an excellent example of the high standards DIAMOND BUS operate compered to the other hopelessly incompetent  bus operator on the route that fails to serve Blackheath sucessfully in any form what so ever the idiots that run the rival company so laughably  should look at the excellent route management, operations and vechicle standards of Diamond Bus and learn from it on how to operate a proper bus service. In reply.to your question have I no moans about DIAMOND BUS 4H or 231
At least the buses on the NX 4H don't breakdown as much as the Diamond 4H and that the buses aren't mainly stuck in limp mode.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: richardjones210368 on December 17, 2019, 10:20:21 PM
Quote from: Jack on December 17, 2019, 08:57:41 PM
At least the buses on the NX 4H don't breakdown as much as the Diamond 4H and that the buses aren't mainly stuck in limp mode.
Sorry @Jack have been doing my lane swimming after getting the faultless Diamond 4H after 7pm just turned my phone back on so your telling me that in the last few years there is a some kind of  problem with Diamond Bus with me being on 6 Diamond Buses invovlved in crashes and fires where the operator has always acted in the most professional manner in such unfortunate circumstances I doubt NXWM would act in the same manner so your point about the hopeless unreliable cowboy operator that is  NXWM on the  4H is what exactly?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on December 18, 2019, 02:20:05 PM
Quote from: richardjones210368 on December 17, 2019, 10:20:21 PM
Sorry @Jack have been doing my lane swimming after getting the faultless Diamond 4H after 7pm just turned my phone back on so your telling me that in the last few years there is a some kind of  problem with Diamond Bus with me being on 6 Diamond Buses invovlved in crashes and fires where the operator has always acted in the most professional manner in such unfortunate circumstances I doubt NXWM would act in the same manner so your point about the hopeless unreliable cowboy operator that is  NXWM on the  4H is what exactly?
But how are NX a 'cowboy'? And I presume you've only ridden Tividale buses anyway, which are ok (not great), compared to the likes of Redditch and Kidderminster depots. NX don't put out buses that are stuck in limp mode 24/7. A countless number of times now I've used the 4H branded B7RLE's and they struggle on the Walsall Road hill by Tame Bridge, which is hardly even steep. If it was a hill like Gorsty Hill or Powke Lane I'd understand... shows the terrible maintenance. NX's B7RLE's quite easily best Diamond's on the hill by Tame Bridge.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 18, 2019, 06:10:22 PM
Quote from: Jack on December 18, 2019, 02:20:05 PM
But how are NX a 'cowboy'? And I presume you've only ridden Tividale buses anyway, which are ok (not great), compared to the likes of Redditch and Kidderminster depots. NX don't put out buses that are stuck in limp mode 24/7. A countless number of times now I've used the 4H branded B7RLE's and they struggle on the Walsall Road hill by Tame Bridge, which is hardly even steep. If it was a hill like Gorsty Hill or Powke Lane I'd understand... shows the terrible maintenance. NX's B7RLE's quite easily best Diamond's on the hill by Tame Bridge.

Simon has made his engineers ensure that all buses can go fairly fast now, don't ride any in limp mode anymore. 30412 went from the worst to best b7rle now i think
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on January 03, 2020, 04:09:36 PM
20167 (226) - 74
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Jack on February 20, 2020, 04:58:30 PM
30412 (4/4H) - 40
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 31, 2020, 09:50:04 AM
Lots of diamonds off route it seems. 30926 on 4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: BK63 YWP on March 31, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 31, 2020, 09:50:04 AM
Lots of diamonds off route it seems. 30926 on 4H

Obliviously they are utilising vehicles where they can and sorn some to save money as not in use...
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on March 31, 2020, 11:48:31 AM
Quote from: SL 16 YPN on March 31, 2020, 10:16:32 AM
Obliviously they are utilising vehicles where they can and sorn some to save money as not in use...

30925 is on 4H too. I see
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: ayyHugo on December 07, 2020, 03:54:29 PM
16 branded (32318) on the 002 this afternoon
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Trident 4194 on December 07, 2020, 06:06:32 PM
Quote from: ayyHugo on December 07, 2020, 03:54:29 PM
16 branded (32318) on the 002 this afternoon

Peak extra
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Rachvince53 on January 03, 2023, 05:35:43 PM
32217 (West Midlands Bus 32 branded) and 32318 (4H) both on 27/27A. 32217 later went on 17s.
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: cris 99 on January 03, 2023, 06:50:40 PM
32217 is based in redditch in 2 tone blue?
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: cris 99 on January 03, 2023, 06:53:26 PM
32217 is based at redditch and in two tone blue and 32318 is branded for the 16 not the 4H
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Rachvince53 on January 03, 2023, 07:29:05 PM
Quote from: cris 99 on January 03, 2023, 06:53:26 PM32217 is based at redditch and in two tone blue and 32318 is branded for the 16 not the 4H
Sorry I meant 32317. 
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Rachvince53 on January 05, 2023, 11:44:03 AM
Diamond Bus are not following the correct 61 route in West Bromwich on all journeys.  This is the THIRD day this has occurred so I can think that one of the drivers doesn't know about the route change which seems ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Rachvince53 on January 08, 2023, 10:56:57 AM
20167 (226 branded) is currently on the 27
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Rachvince53 on January 25, 2023, 03:07:06 PM
32320 (16 branded) is on the 27/27A
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Lukeee on January 25, 2023, 11:50:23 PM
16 branded appear on anything except the 16 these days 
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: hlliwmai on January 26, 2023, 01:07:58 AM
Quote from: Lukeee on January 25, 2023, 11:50:23 PM16 branded appear on anything except the 16 these days


I am led to believe they are all eventually being debranded seeing as it's no longer just the 16 anymore and now the 16A the branding is sort of defunct also in any case it looks extremely untidy these days i.e. with some or all of the branding missing on some of those 16 buses!!

It's because Diamond have the branding applied to the vehicle(s) in house by the engineers they don't have a quality job done like National Express do with Mobile Signs (because higher management are too tight to pay for it!) I will use the 82/87 Dudley Road branded Plantinum's they've had that branding on them since 2019 and it's still in perfect condition so it kind of speaks for itself you want a quality finish get the professionals in you want a bodge job let the engineers do it....
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: B61 ANDREW on December 01, 2023, 07:29:53 PM
I sort of posted in this thread for a bit of fun ,so, unless my eyes were playing tricks . Did I see a Diamond Streetdeck heading south on a low loader lorry on the M5 earlier today ??  I know that bus enthusiasts are everywhere so hopefully someone can confirm or not. Cheers all. 
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Westy on February 26, 2024, 05:44:26 PM
My other Wb based sister has just rang.

A 4h service single decker has got stuck in Bratt Street!

According to Bustimes, it's 32223!
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: ellspurs on February 26, 2024, 06:54:54 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 26, 2024, 05:44:26 PMMy other Wb based sister has just rang.

A 4h service single decker has got stuck in Bratt Street!

According to Bustimes, it's 32223!
It were only up there 10 minutes, it was out before you posted that!
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Westy on February 26, 2024, 07:34:01 PM
Quote from: ellspurs on February 26, 2024, 06:54:54 PMIt were only up there 10 minutes, it was out before you posted that!
Well, I was talking to my sister first!
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: hlliwmai on February 26, 2024, 11:27:21 PM
Quote from: Westy on February 26, 2024, 05:44:26 PMMy other Wb based sister has just rang.

A 4h service single decker has got stuck in Bratt Street!

According to Bustimes, it's 32223!

it's not the first time a 4 or 4H has ended up going down that road and it won't be the last either! 
Title: Re: Diamonds off Route
Post by: Wba_lad on May 01, 2024, 02:12:20 PM
32130, the 40 branded VDL is out on the 50 today.