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Title: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: the trainbasher on February 26, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
http://www.centro.org.uk/media/553827/BusContracts_renewals_outcome_April2015.pdf

It's all change this time round!
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: Stu on February 26, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
I'm guessing its the Sunday 27 journeys that NX have won here?

Seems the losers this time around are Silverline?
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: the trainbasher on February 26, 2015, 06:23:09 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 26, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
I'm guessing its the Sunday 27 journeys that NX have won here?

Seems the losers this time around are Silverline?

And community transport Coventry
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: Tony on February 26, 2015, 06:24:22 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on February 26, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
http://www.centro.org.uk/media/553827/BusContracts_renewals_outcome_April2015.pdf

It's all change this time round!

There are some high bids in there for some of those.
The first 27 contract, NX won with an alternative bid for £66,352
Only one other bidder and they bid £286,211

So NX's alternative bid saved Centro a quarter of a million pounds!
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: Stu on February 26, 2015, 06:27:29 PM
It would be interesting to see also who else bid and how much for these tenders.
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: winston on February 26, 2015, 07:03:55 PM
Diamond seem to have fared a little better overall, but have obviously have still lost the 96/99 to Igo
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: Stu on February 26, 2015, 07:07:57 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 26, 2015, 07:03:55 PM
Diamond seem to have fared a little better overall, but have obviously have still lost the 96/99 to Igo

I don't know what loadings are like elsewhere on those routes, but when I see the 96 and 99 in Acocks Green, there are hardly any passengers.

Certainly I see more people using the 36 at the times I see it.
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: Westy on February 26, 2015, 07:48:09 PM
Is there any Walsall changes?
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: Stu on February 26, 2015, 08:03:36 PM
Curiously, I just had a look on the Network West Midlands website, and searching for the 96 and 99 brings up new timetables for both services operated by Diamond from 28th March.  :o
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: D10 on February 26, 2015, 08:53:45 PM
Looks like the Coventry 42 has been linked to the 87 on the new Tender. Johnson's of course are no stranger to Coventry on the "Country" services, but now getting a tiny piece of the action on City services.
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: winston on February 26, 2015, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 26, 2015, 08:03:36 PM
Curiously, I just had a look on the Network West Midlands website, and searching for the 96 and 99 brings up new timetables for both services operated by Diamond from 28th March.  :o

Hmmmm, if that's the case that changes things for Diamond
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: JoNi on February 26, 2015, 09:17:51 PM
I would have thought the 87 could have been more effectively to mop up the 47 around Canley station.
Coventry 42 is a classic case where you can use a bus efficiently on schools/peak workings, then operate a shopping service.
I know of instances where Operators who take over tendered services are mandated in the tender contract to still accept day/period area tickets from the previous big group operator at no extra cost to the traveller.

In the 21st century all services should provide real time information wonder how close the bids if the above was included!
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: Matt.N0056 on February 26, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 26, 2015, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 26, 2015, 08:03:36 PM
Curiously, I just had a look on the Network West Midlands website, and searching for the 96 and 99 brings up new timetables for both services operated by Diamond from 28th March.  :o

Hmmmm, if that's the case that changes things for Diamond

Would that not be to do with the re-registering the servises on to the Diamond licence?
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: JPC on February 27, 2015, 05:05:57 PM
Quote from: JoNi on February 26, 2015, 09:17:51 PM
I would have thought the 87 could have been more effectively to mop up the 47 around Canley station.
Coventry 42 is a classic case where you can use a bus efficiently on schools/peak workings, then operate a shopping service.
I know of instances where Operators who take over tendered services are mandated in the tender contract to still accept day/period area tickets from the previous big group operator at no extra cost to the traveller.

In the 21st century all services should provide real time information wonder how close the bids if the above was included!

WMT/NXC have been running the 42 (previously 49) to Coundon for at least 25 years so it'll be a bit of a raw loss for them, but I suppose when it became a subsidised service three years ago a change of hands was to be expected in due course.
And yeah the 41/47 in it's current form continues to annoy me, such waste.
Title: Re: April 2015 tender results...
Post by: Stu on February 27, 2015, 06:18:48 PM
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on February 26, 2015, 10:25:07 PM
Quote from: Winston on February 26, 2015, 08:58:28 PM
Quote from: Stu on February 26, 2015, 08:03:36 PM
Curiously, I just had a look on the Network West Midlands website, and searching for the 96 and 99 brings up new timetables for both services operated by Diamond from 28th March.  :o

Hmmmm, if that's the case that changes things for Diamond

Would that not be to do with the re-registering the servises on to the Diamond licence?

Looks like you're correct, as the tenders will be changing at the end of April.