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West Midlands Buses in Discussion => National Express West Midlands => Topic started by: Tony on December 02, 2014, 07:56:34 PM

Title: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Tony on December 02, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
Just drive brand new buses straight to Miller Street!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/YY64GXG.html
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 02, 2014, 08:05:36 PM
Was it a Hybrid Tony?

If so presumably for Bebbington Garage for the 109?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Liberator9 on December 02, 2014, 08:10:47 PM
Nice shot there Tony - looks very smart. Can't wait to see NX versions next year.
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: monkeyjoe on December 02, 2014, 08:13:52 PM
What's the nx connection I thought nx off loaded them ages ago. Is it just sharing resources or something?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Liverpool Street on December 02, 2014, 09:22:40 PM
I was gonna say type training or vehicle familiarisation for GB-DTO's?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Tara4352 on December 02, 2014, 09:33:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
Just drive brand new buses straight to Miller Street!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/YY64GXG.html
Is this a london transport bus as they are in london too
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: don on December 02, 2014, 11:23:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 02, 2014, 07:56:34 PM
Just drive brand new buses straight to Miller Street!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NONWM/Abellio/YY64GXG.html

This is spooky - on Monday I saw a class 379 in the same livery as c2c, but with Abellio Stansted Express logos - in alternate red and blue lettering in national express font - I said to my colleague I didn't know national express still ran it and then I noticed the Abellio word..........  presumably nothing more than a canny borrowing of the NX brand style!!

Nice bus by the way.
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Ex BC driver on December 03, 2014, 01:16:07 AM
Not sure if it's still asked, but on a job application for Abellio Greater Anglia, it did ask if the applicant has work for National Express Group or any associated companies. Same with the Abellio London and Surrey application firm, it asks if the applicant has worked for Travel London, National Express or any company associated with National Express
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: CL on December 03, 2014, 05:09:45 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on December 02, 2014, 09:22:40 PM
I was gonna say type training or vehicle familiarisation for GB-DTO's?

I thought so... It's at Wolverhampton. Evidently, from Ashley's comment & this photo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/15936858632/
(Not my photo. If i'm not mistaken, I think the person goes by the name '4006' on this forum)
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Niall on December 03, 2014, 07:06:13 PM
I would presume its at Wolverhampton after its visit to Miller Street because Alexander Dennis have offices or something there, don't they?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: PM on December 03, 2014, 07:19:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside

Looks to have standard abellio spec interior as well?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside

Fair enough, I'll let others do the speculating without me giving anything away! I just wonder if it is due to go to Abellio, but just being borrowed by NXWM for either a spot of type-training, or just for demonstration purposes, before continuing off down south to London. I didn't see any E400MMCs during my weekend in London, don't know if anyone has any yet down there?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside

Fair enough, I'll let others do the speculating without me giving anything away! I just wonder if it is due to go to Abellio, but just being borrowed by NXWM for either a spot of type-training, or just for demonstration purposes, before continuing off down south to London. I didn't see any E400MMCs during my weekend in London, don't know if anyone has any yet down there?

Could be this

" Route 109/N109: Contract Awarded to Abellio London with 25 New E40H/Enviro 400 MMC hybrid double deckers operated from Beddington Garage" from Late January 2015

Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside

Fair enough, I'll let others do the speculating without me giving anything away! I just wonder if it is due to go to Abellio, but just being borrowed by NXWM for either a spot of type-training, or just for demonstration purposes, before continuing off down south to London. I didn't see any E400MMCs during my weekend in London, don't know if anyone has any yet down there?

Could be this

" Route 109/N109: Contract Awarded to Abellio London with 25 New E40H/Enviro 400 MMC hybrid double deckers operated from Beddington Garage" from Late January 2015

I just checked on my VRM lookup and the pictured bus, YY64GXG, is a 8.3L diesel, not a hybrid (registered 27th Nov 2014).



Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside

Fair enough, I'll let others do the speculating without me giving anything away! I just wonder if it is due to go to Abellio, but just being borrowed by NXWM for either a spot of type-training, or just for demonstration purposes, before continuing off down south to London. I didn't see any E400MMCs during my weekend in London, don't know if anyone has any yet down there?

Could be this

" Route 109/N109: Contract Awarded to Abellio London with 25 New E40H/Enviro 400 MMC hybrid double deckers operated from Beddington Garage" from Late January 2015

I just checked on my VRM lookup and the pictured bus, YY64GXG, is a 8.3L diesel, not a hybrid (registered 27th Nov 2014).

Unusual then, have checked the Tenders due over the next few months and all buses are due to be Hybrid?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stu on December 03, 2014, 08:27:39 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 08:12:14 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside

Fair enough, I'll let others do the speculating without me giving anything away! I just wonder if it is due to go to Abellio, but just being borrowed by NXWM for either a spot of type-training, or just for demonstration purposes, before continuing off down south to London. I didn't see any E400MMCs during my weekend in London, don't know if anyone has any yet down there?

Could be this

" Route 109/N109: Contract Awarded to Abellio London with 25 New E40H/Enviro 400 MMC hybrid double deckers operated from Beddington Garage" from Late January 2015

I just checked on my VRM lookup and the pictured bus, YY64GXG, is a 8.3L diesel, not a hybrid (registered 27th Nov 2014).

Unusual then, have checked the Tenders due over the next few months and all buses are due to be Hybrid?

Maybe is just a demonstrator then. Will be interesting to see how long it stays in the Midlands for, as I don't doubt ADL would have some kind of non-TFL spec Enviro for NX to 'play' with. Another bit of speculation could be if NX were thinking about dual-door models to speed up loading and unloading?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 08:57:29 PM
have just asked on London Transport forum and am told it is more than likely a Demonstrator that appeared at the Abelio Walworth open day a few weeks ago.
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Liverpool Street on December 04, 2014, 09:15:11 AM
When I drove past BC yesterday night this E400MMC was parked in the dead bay in the bus park.
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: andrew1991 on December 04, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Just left Pensnett to go to Perry Barr
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stevo on December 04, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside

Fair enough, I'll let others do the speculating without me giving anything away! I just wonder if it is due to go to Abellio, but just being borrowed by NXWM for either a spot of type-training, or just for demonstration purposes, before continuing off down south to London. I didn't see any E400MMCs during my weekend in London, don't know if anyone has any yet down there?

Could be this

" Route 109/N109: Contract Awarded to Abellio London with 25 New E40H/Enviro 400 MMC hybrid double deckers operated from Beddington Garage" from Late January 2015

I just checked on my VRM lookup and the pictured bus, YY64GXG, is a 8.3L diesel, not a hybrid (registered 27th Nov 2014).

Did it say that? I doubt it's an 8.3 litre diesel as that engine was discontinued in 2006 or 2007. It's the 6.7 litre now.
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on December 04, 2014, 02:04:13 PM
Quote from: Andrew on December 04, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Just left Pensnett to go to Perry Barr

PE, mmm new deckers for the 53 i wonder?  ::) ::)
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: andrew1991 on December 04, 2014, 02:05:25 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 04, 2014, 02:04:13 PM
Quote from: Andrew on December 04, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Just left Pensnett to go to Perry Barr

PE, mmm new deckers for the 53 i wonder?  ::) ::)

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Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stu on December 04, 2014, 07:00:08 PM
Quote from: Stevo on December 04, 2014, 12:42:09 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:59:29 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on December 03, 2014, 07:51:24 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 07:34:14 PM
Quote from: Tony on December 03, 2014, 07:17:23 PM
Quote from: Stu on December 03, 2014, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley on December 03, 2014, 09:41:56 AM
I'm told its parked at Wolverhampton garage this morning

Let the frothing commence lmao...

I'm going to share this on my WMBU Facebook page shortly, can't wait to start reading the speculation there!  :D

Before I do though, is this actually an Abellio bus, or a demonstrator perhaps due to go to Abellio?

I am not sure on that one. All I know is it has all Abellio notices inside

Fair enough, I'll let others do the speculating without me giving anything away! I just wonder if it is due to go to Abellio, but just being borrowed by NXWM for either a spot of type-training, or just for demonstration purposes, before continuing off down south to London. I didn't see any E400MMCs during my weekend in London, don't know if anyone has any yet down there?

Could be this

" Route 109/N109: Contract Awarded to Abellio London with 25 New E40H/Enviro 400 MMC hybrid double deckers operated from Beddington Garage" from Late January 2015

I just checked on my VRM lookup and the pictured bus, YY64GXG, is a 8.3L diesel, not a hybrid (registered 27th Nov 2014).

Did it say that? I doubt it's an 8.3 litre diesel as that engine was discontinued in 2006 or 2007. It's the 6.7 litre now.

Enter the registration number here:
http://www.juratek.com/applications.php
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: RW on December 05, 2014, 09:53:09 AM
So a couple of days after it first arrived does anyone know exactly what our 'visitor' was doing making a tour of NX garages? Tony? Is it still around?
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Liverpool Street on December 05, 2014, 10:29:33 AM
Quote from: RW on December 05, 2014, 09:53:09 AM
So a couple of days after it first arrived does anyone know exactly what our 'visitor' was doing making a tour of NX garages? Tony? Is it still around?

Still at BC a source has told me.
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: YWDriver on December 05, 2014, 06:27:56 PM
It was at Yardley Wood this morning, managed to have a look around it and I must say it is pretty smart.
Title: Re: Cut out the middle men!
Post by: Stevo on December 06, 2014, 10:15:14 AM
The Juratek website is wrong. If you go to https://www.vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/ you'll see YY64 GXG has a 6.7 litre engine as have almost all E400s.