New topic to discuss Shrewsbury garage
What is replacing the Centros that are moving to Wednesfield?
Quote from: Wolves256 on November 26, 2014, 10:34:04 PM
New topic to discuss Shrewsbury garage
What is replacing the Centros that are moving to Wednesfield?
Solo's in the short term then Versa's in the long term
Are Solo's going to be put on the 64/164?
No, it's just that Solos are moving from Wednesfield.
Some 64s have loading issues as it is.
What full size vehicles will be used on 64 then?
They've got versas still at Shrewsbury haven't they?
Yea but theyre a midibus surely? Lol
Although id imagine a Versa would make a quieter smoother trip end to end than any form of sb200
There are some 11.7 metre Versas.
At Shrewsbury?
Yes 3696-9
Transferred from Oswestry earlier in the yaer and mainly used on route 1
Does route 1 need tjem though? Cos if it does wont there be an issue if big buses are needed for the 64/164 as well
Now here is a bit of a surprise!
Shrewsbury will be having an Optare Metro City Demonstrator from sometime this week for approx. 3 weeks
Reg YJ64DWK
There is also a Full electric Metro City Demo due in about 3 weeks
Quote from: Tony on February 02, 2015, 08:11:01 PM
Now here is a bit of a surprise!
Shrewsbury will be having an Optare Metro City Demonstrator from sometime this week for approx. 3 weeks
Reg YJ64DWK
There is also a Full electric Metro City Demo due in about 3 weeks
Lucky people of Shrewsbury! Think the demo's got full leather spec seats and looks very nice indeed, except for the loud orange livery. I'd like to see Arriva or anyone order some MetroCitys as they look a good product, more practical than a versa and with the nice interior you expect from Optare!
Quote from: DiamondDart on February 02, 2015, 08:21:31 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 02, 2015, 08:11:01 PM
Now here is a bit of a surprise!
Shrewsbury will be having an Optare Metro City Demonstrator from sometime this week for approx. 3 weeks
Reg YJ64DWK
There is also a Full electric Metro City Demo due in about 3 weeks
Lucky people of Shrewsbury! Think the demo's got full leather spec seats and looks very nice indeed, except for the loud orange livery. I'd like to see Arriva or anyone order some MetroCitys as they look a good product, more practical than a versa and with the nice interior you expect from Optare!
Delivery now expected on Friday
3799 now delivered.
For my week off school, i want to do the following trip
Willenhall-Walsall-Birmingham-Tamworth-Lichfield-Stafford-Telford-Shrewsbury-Bridgnorth-Kidderminster-Halesowen-Walsall-Willenhall
Does anyone know what vehicle types are run on the 436 (Shrewsbury-Bridgnorth)?
Quote from: Matt on February 07, 2015, 09:53:01 PM
Quote from: Alex on February 07, 2015, 07:50:51 PM
For my week off school, i want to do the following trip
Willenhall-Walsall-Birmingham-Tamworth-Lichfield-Stafford-Telford-Shrewsbury-Bridgnorth-Kidderminster-Halesowen-Walsall-Willenhall
Does anyone know what vehicle types are run on the 436 (Shrewsbury-Bridgnorth)?
Versas. Really nice route the 436
@Matt Thanks, don't know why, but i was expecting it to be Darts (Probably cause ALL of my local Arriva routes have Darts on at some point)
Shrewsbury are nearly all Versa and Solo bar 3799.
3799 seems a strange transfer to SY
Will this remain unique or will some other VLD SB200s move across
Quote from: BN on February 08, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
Shrewsbury are nearly all Versa and Solo bar 3799.
Considering it once had mainly full sized buses thats a shame
Quote from: Bob on February 10, 2015, 02:29:29 PM
Quote from: BN on February 08, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
Shrewsbury are nearly all Versa and Solo bar 3799.
Considering it once had mainly full sized buses thats a shame
The larger Versas seat almost the same as an old National or Leopard. Arriva obviously find that Versas work well on Shrewsbury work, a lot of which is very different to that at other depots.
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 10, 2015, 01:16:26 PM
3799 seems a strange transfer to SY
Will this remain unique or will some other VLD SB200s move across
No only this one, i believe it is to replace a large capacity vehicle on the 64/164.
Quote from: andy on February 10, 2015, 06:03:10 PM
Quote from: Bob on February 10, 2015, 02:29:29 PM
Quote from: BN on February 08, 2015, 10:28:23 AM
Shrewsbury are nearly all Versa and Solo bar 3799.
Considering it once had mainly full sized buses thats a shame
The larger Versas seat almost the same as an old National or Leopard. Arriva obviously find that Versas work well on Shrewsbury work, a lot of which is very different to that at other depots.
Yea and there's what 4/5 of them?? The rest of the farage is predominantly mini/midi..
Quote from: BN on February 10, 2015, 06:23:07 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 10, 2015, 01:16:26 PM
3799 seems a strange transfer to SY
Will this remain unique or will some other VLD SB200s move across
No only this one, i believe it is to replace a large capacity vehicle on the 64/164.
Makes a bit of a mockery of the standardisation at SY I would of thought a long versa from THM would have made more sense. ...
Shrewsbury have 4 ex Oswestry 12 plate LWB Optares transfered in last year
Quote from: tphi12000 on February 10, 2015, 10:24:34 PM
Quote from: BN on February 10, 2015, 06:23:07 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 10, 2015, 01:16:26 PM
3799 seems a strange transfer to SY
Will this remain unique or will some other VLD SB200s move across
No only this one, i believe it is to replace a large capacity vehicle on the 64/164.
Makes a bit of a mockery of the standardisation at SY I would of thought a long versa from THM would have made more sense. ...
They're needed at THM for the 26/27/28 although lately they've been straying elsewhere.
Can i ask if LWB Versas should be on the 436? This is because the one i was on (3699) seemed to have a nightmare in some places i.e. Having to do a 3-point turn in Much Wenlock, trying to get round a village earlier on the route (forgot the name of the village).
Quote from: Alex on February 16, 2015, 09:25:40 PM
Can i ask if LWB Versas should be on the 436? This is because the one i was on (3699) seemed to have a nightmare in some places i.e. Having to do a 3-point turn in Much Wenlock, trying to get round a village earlier on the route (forgot the name of the village).
Well there was one on there when i went to Bridgnorth back in October so i presume its the standard allocation
The 11.7m Versas aren't standard allocation, it's usually the earlier 11.1m examples.
2940 and 2942 have joined the fleet making Shrewsbury a completly Optare depot.
Has 3799 left then?
Is 2941 there?
Yes.
So SY has Arrivas largest Versa allocation
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 24, 2015, 08:49:01 PM
So SY has Arrivas largest Versa allocation
3 or 4 more than Southend now which I believe had the most at one Arriva depot before.
Where is 3799 being transferred? Sorry to jump on the questions bandwagon
I beleive Southend have 28
If I am correct SY now have:
4 x 61 plate, 2939> 42, V1100 ex Stafford
10 x 60 plate, 2964 > 73, V1100 park and ride
16 x 09 plate, 2974 > 84, 88,90,90,91,94, V1100
1 x 58 plate, 2996, V1100
1 x 57 plate, 2997, V?????
4 x 12 plate, 3966 > 9, V1110, ex Oswestry 2014
Total 36
Will 2992,3,5 move from Oswestry?
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 24, 2015, 09:59:24 PM
I beleive Southend have 28
If I am correct SY now have:
4 x 61 plate, 2939> 42, V1100 ex Stafford
10 x 60 plate, 2964 > 73, V1100 park and ride
16 x 09 plate, 2974 > 84, 88,90,90,91,94, V1100
1 x 58 plate, 2996, V1100
1 x 57 plate, 2997, V?????
4 x 12 plate, 3966 > 9, V1110, ex Oswestry 2014
Total 36
Will 2992,3,5 move from Oswestry?
Think you mean 3696, mate :)
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 24, 2015, 09:59:24 PM
I beleive Southend have 28
If I am correct SY now have:
4 x 61 plate, 2939> 42, V1100 ex Stafford
10 x 60 plate, 2964 > 73, V1100 park and ride
16 x 09 plate, 2974 > 84, 88,90,90,91,94, V1100
1 x 58 plate, 2996, V1100
1 x 57 plate, 2997, V?????
4 x 12 plate, 3966 > 9, V1110, ex Oswestry 2014
Total 36
Will 2992,3,5 move from Oswestry?
Why not have SY and OS as Versa garages, 2367 could go to Stafford in return for 2937 and 2938 plus a 55 plate Dart which you could swap with a CK Cadet to make up the numbers etc
Quote from: Wolves256 on February 24, 2015, 09:59:24 PM
I beleive Southend have 28
If I am correct SY now have:
4 x 61 plate, 2939> 42, V1100 ex Stafford
10 x 60 plate, 2964 > 73, V1100 park and ride
16 x 09 plate, 2974 > 84, 88,90,90,91,94, V1100
1 x 58 plate, 2996, V1100
1 x 57 plate, 2997, V?????
4 x 12 plate, 3966 > 9, V1110, ex Oswestry 2014
Total 36
Will 2992,3,5 move from Oswestry?
2992 and 2993 have already moved.
To Shrewsbury?
Looks like someone is taking a lot of care to group batches of vehicles a the same depot
Yes to Shrewsbury.
3799 still at SY
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 07, 2015, 11:53:10 PM
3799 still at SY
Shouldn't be long now, think its going for 3695.
Quote from: BN on March 08, 2015, 08:34:17 AM
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 07, 2015, 11:53:10 PM
3799 still at SY
Shouldn't be long now, think its going for 3695.
It was issuing tickets from 2103 yesterday
I went to Shrewsbury yesterday en route to Telford and as stated earlier it was virtually all Optare Versas and Solos. 3799 was on the 64 Newcastle run and one surprise was 3763 on the 519 Newport, 1500 departure. Looking at the timetable it seems all workings are Shrewsbury based, no Stafford so is 3763 a transfer or loan? The only other Scanias were Oswestry workings 3728/29/31 and 3742/45 (3728 replaced later in the day). 3728/29/31 still carry the full Chase Lynx livery, no route branding, and the ex Telford buses still carry full Wrekin Connect. Off topic I know it seems strange to me that Oswestry should have 9 Pulsars for the 70/X70 which only needs 4 buses. They have no spare I think for the 2 route to Wrexham requiring all of 3785 to 3791 for 7 PVR so they will need a spare for that.
Is YJ64DWK still on demo at Shrewsbury?
Quote from: Reece on March 11, 2015, 06:06:53 PM
Is YJ64DWK still on demo at Shrewsbury?
No sign of it yesterday so presumably not.
It appears that from the 19th July 2015 that the 436 will be run by GHA Coaches, rather than Arriva
http://shropshire.gov.uk/media/492151/lbs-tender-results-1-april-2009-to-present.pdf
Last page of the attached PDF
3695 at Shrewsbury with 3799 gone to Thurmaston Depot in Leicester
At last.
2738 on loan to Shrewsbury outstation, Oswestry.
I did not realise that Oswestry is regarded as an outstation.......is this a recent development?
All Electric Optare demonstrator will be joining Shrewsbury next week.
Now I've just read the 436 is being taken over there goes my plan out of the window with a arriva daysaver
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 30, 2015, 08:01:37 PM
Now I've just read the 436 is being taken over there goes my plan out of the window with a arriva daysaver
@Trident 4194 When you going GHA don't start running the 436 till the 19th July?
Quote from: Reece on July 02, 2015, 02:35:56 AM
@Trident 4194 When you going GHA don't start running the 436 till the 19th July?
It will probably be August, how much do Gha charge for the full route?
What is more scenic Telford/ Shrewsbury routes or Tamworth/Nuneaton?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 06, 2015, 05:52:39 PM
What is more scenic Telford/ Shrewsbury routes or Tamworth/Nuneaton?
Telford and Shrewsbury.
2942 on Arriva 8A was displaying 892 not 8A
Sb120 back in Shrewsbury. 2717 on loan.
long Vera 3699 noted heading into Cannock this morning at 07.30.
crap optare... oh deae
I believe 3 p&r Versa's have gone into reserve following frequency reductions at the beginning of November :- 2965 on loan at Wednesfield and I think 2966 at Telford has 2964 turned up elsewhere?
Quote from: tphi12000 on November 30, 2015, 10:09:10 PM
I believe 3 p&r Versa's have gone into reserve following frequency reductions at the beginning of November :- 2965 on loan at Wednesfield and I think 2966 at Telford has 2964 turned up elsewhere?
Worth mentioning that the new contract includes new buses to be provided in 2017.
2964 is still at shrewsbury
2965 at Wednesfield
2966 at Telford
I was told all 3 are to be painted into interurban and return to service at shrewsbury
Quote from: saiwah007 on December 02, 2015, 02:36:40 PM
2964 is still at shrewsbury
2965 at Wednesfield
2966 at Telford
I was told all 3 are to be painted into interurban and return to service at shrewsbury
All 3 have now gone on loan to the Shires.
Quote from: BN on December 11, 2015, 07:42:19 PM
All 3 have now gone on loan to the Shires.
All 3 are now repainted and back in the Midlands. They will be rejoining Shrewsbury's fleet within a few weeks.
2964-66 now back home at Shrewsbury.
Replacing 2990-92.
PD0000478/251 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Shrewsbury and Whitchurch given service number 511 effective from 01-Jun-2016.
Quote from: T840MAK on May 10, 2016, 09:48:28 PM
PD0000478/251 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted by SN: Operating between Shrewsbury and Whitchurch given service number 511 effective from 01-Jun-2016.
GHA have won the contract for this along with three of the town services (can't remember the numbers).
Quote from: Cheese on May 11, 2016, 07:09:08 AM
GHA have won the contract for this along with three of the town services (can't remember the numbers).
Quote from: Cheese on May 11, 2016, 07:09:08 AM
GHA have won the contract for this along with three of the town services (can't remember the numbers).
Let's see who's operating the town services tomorrow?
Quote from: Tony on May 30, 2016, 10:17:01 PM
Let's see who's operating the town services tomorrow?
Could well be both of them... I had read Arriva were potentially going to continue to operate them commercially?
To answer a few queries
Services 297,341/2, 113-6 have moved from Telford to Shrewsbury
Shrewsbury Town Services 23 and 26 continue to be operated by Arriva after GHA withdrew from the Tender
Quote from: Tony on June 01, 2016, 02:26:59 PM
To answer a few queries
Services 297,341/2, 113-6 have moved from Telford to Shrewsbury
Shrewsbury Town Services 23 and 26 continue to be operated by Arriva after GHA withdrew from the Tender
GHA seem to have lost a bit of their spark at the moment, I'm pleased Arriva haven't given way, as long as the routes are viable/close to viable.
Found out today (ie, travelled on it today) that Shrewsbury depot runs the 738/740 Ludlow to Knighton service. Hell of a lot of dead mileage between that and the 297 then!
Quote from: Kevin on June 02, 2016, 10:42:28 PM
Found out today (ie, travelled on it today) that Shrewsbury depot runs the 738/740 Ludlow to Knighton service. Hell of a lot of dead mileage between that and the 297 then!
The dead mileage was still quite hefty on the 738/740 when Bridgnorth operated it!
That's a shame was looking forward to GHA on Shrewsbury locals, what happened anybody know why, the new timetables where on there website last week so it must have been a sudden thing.
2546, 2550 have now left for Luton.
3691-3694 heading to Shrewsbury from Thurmaston
2939/40/41/42 now at Thurmaston in replacement for 3691/92/93/94 which have gone to Shrewsbury.
P&R branded 2971 on the 8 today. Don't know how unusual it is, so putting it here.
Shrewsbury P & R Versa 2970 was in Hanley last Saturday on the 164. This route is nearly always (!! ) Versas but I have not seen a P&R on it before.
Optare Solos 2400 2499 are Joining Shrewsbury from Tamworth
436 and X5/81 cancelled in todays N&P - I had heard they only lost the 436 of the GHA work gained.
Shame these routes have been lost. I suspect the X5 however may return in another registration as I understand its under the same as the 81 and more so as the X5 is commercial unless they are really cutting back?
2535 is in from Derby, 2573 has moved on to Hinckley, as has 2209.
Pulsar 2, 3754 appears to have settled at Shrewsbury for use on the 519 Shrewsbury - Newport due to standing loads regularly on the school peaks on the V1170 Versas. Versa V1100 2981 is understood to have moved onto Telford in exchange. Does anyone know if this is a temporary move or permanent swap?
Regards
Chris
Hi Chris regarding you question on 3754/2981 as far as I am aware it is a permanent move
Mark
Thanks Mark, a welcome break from the full Optare allocation.
No problem Chris
What vehicles used on the 297, 114,X4 and 436 please
Quote from: Trident 4194 on January 01, 2018, 09:59:45 AM
What vehicles used on the 297, 114,X4 and 436 please
2500 was on the 297 Saturday.
Quote from: BN on January 01, 2018, 11:31:49 AM
2500 was on the 297 Saturday.
Thankyou
@BN do any of Shrewsbury routes do the mad interworking?
Just seen a post on the arriva website regarding 2212/2744 they are working out of here possibility a loan move 2744 was supposed to have gone back to Cannock then Telford but ended up here
2744 and 2212 have turned up at Shrewsbury to release Versas for the regained 436 service. This is due to Shropshire Council pulling EasyCoach off the run for poor performance and getting Arriva Midlands back on it. 2744 worked the 24 and later seen on the 17:15 64 to Market Drayton.
2574 BU03 HPY has reappeared at Shrewsbury after been moved away in late 2017, noted sticking out of the workshop at the garage on Saturday.
Been told by a Shrewsbury driver this morning that later this month the following services will transfer from Shrewsbury back to Telford garage;
* 297 (Kidderminster - Bridgnorth via Alveley)
* 113 (Bridgnorth - Telford via Sutton Maddock)
* 114 (Bridgnorth - Telford via Beckbury)
* 115/116 (Bridgnorth - Weston Heath via Shifnal)
Will be nice to see Pulsars back on the 297 I'm sure
@Reece will agree
Quote from: Will on June 09, 2018, 01:19:22 PM
Been told by a Shrewsbury driver this morning that later this month the following services will transfer from Shrewsbury back to Telford garage;
* 297 (Kidderminster - Bridgnorth via Alveley)
* 113 (Bridgnorth - Telford via Sutton Maddock)
* 114 (Bridgnorth - Telford via Beckbury)
* 115/116 (Bridgnorth - Weston Heath via Shifnal)
Will be nice to see Pulsars back on the 297 I'm sure @Reece will agree
Did he say if this would mean a couple of Solos will move over alongside the operation?
Quote from: PointerDart on June 14, 2018, 04:50:09 AM
Did he say if this would mean a couple of Solos will move over alongside the operation?
No - although I do believe the reason for these routes being moved back to Telford is because of the 10 (Wolverhampton to Telford) being scrapped thus freeing up buses which are currently used on that route
Quote from: Will on June 14, 2018, 05:46:50 PM
No - although I do believe the reason for these routes being moved back to Telford is because of the 10 (Wolverhampton to Telford) being scrapped thus freeing up buses which are currently used on that route
They're only scrapping part of the route ain't they(impression got elsewhere).
There's rumours Cannock is taking over the Wolves to Perton bit, interworking with their 70.
Quote from: Westy on June 14, 2018, 08:32:56 PM
They're only scrapping part of the route ain't they(impression got elsewhere).
There's rumours Cannock is taking over the Wolves to Perton bit, interworking with their 70.
Hence the Pulsars? The 70 seems to have a permanent allocation of them now, dont know whats so special about the route when the 60 gets darts and cadets etc other interurban links get Solos
Quote from: Westy on June 14, 2018, 08:32:56 PM
They're only scrapping part of the route ain't they(impression got elsewhere).
There's rumours Cannock is taking over the Wolves to Perton bit, interworking with their 70.
Would make sense. 10 from Telford has nothing on the loadings of the former 891/892 (From what I've seen at least), and even the early days of when they became 8/8A.
Not surprising it doesnt get the loadings...it takes ages. And if cannock are doing the 10s presumably deckers arent required anymore then.....?
Quote from: Bob on June 14, 2018, 09:49:46 PM
Not surprising it doesnt get the loadings...it takes ages. And if cannock are doing the 10s presumably deckers arent required anymore then.....?
Yes I was talking to a Telford driver this afternoon he told me that all of the deckers that operate in Telford currently will soon be departing he didn't know where they'll be going too or whether they'll be disposed of all together / being reallocated to other depots etc
Quote from: Will on June 14, 2018, 11:01:04 PM
Yes I was talking to a Telford driver this afternoon he told me that all of the deckers that operate in Telford currently will soon be departing he didn't know where they'll be going too or whether they'll be disposed of all together / being reallocated to other depots etc
I reckon they'll be swapped out for Geminis elsewhere because they're still needed for the school routes (893/894/895). The ALX400s are all 2000/2001-registered, and are showing signs of severe wear. X448 FGP didn't even have a working retarder the other day, and X502 GGO struggled to get to 30mph on the M54. Haven't been on 4803 myself.
Will be a shame to see them go though.
Quote from: PointerDart on June 15, 2018, 07:12:12 AM
I reckon they'll be swapped out for Geminis elsewhere because they're still needed for the school routes (893/894/895). The ALX400s are all 2000/2001-registered, and are showing signs of severe wear. X448 FGP didn't even have a working retarder the other day, and X502 GGO struggled to get to 30mph on the M54. Haven't been on 4803 myself.
Will be a shame to see them go though.
It will be a shame to see Telfords Deckers go but I got the bus from madeley to Telford yesterday using service 18 to which was I think was X448FGP u could hear her coming for ages with her brakes making an extremely loud noise
Do all services in Bridgnorth stop at the same place?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on June 19, 2018, 08:27:19 PM
Do all services in Bridgnorth stop at the same place?
I believe most, if not all, stop at High Town (either Sainsbury's or the Harp Inn) and Low Town (Fosters Arms). This applies to 9, 113/4/5/6, 297 and 436. This may change from 21st July due to the route/times changes, though.
Quote from: PointerDart on June 19, 2018, 09:16:10 PM
I believe most, if not all, stop at High Town (either Sainsbury's or the Harp Inn) and Low Town (Fosters Arms). This applies to 9, 113/4/5/6, 297 and 436. This may change from 21st July due to the route/times changes, though.
Thanks for your help, much appreciated.
3697 has been in Telford on the 4 today. This just a loan for now?
Just seen 2 Mercedes sprinters In Shrewsbury one operating service 8 to Sutton Farm and the other operating the 64 to Market Drayton
Quote from: Rich-82 on July 20, 2018, 11:25:57 AM
Just seen 2 Mercedes sprinters In Shrewsbury one operating service 8 to Sutton Farm and the other operating the 64 to Market Drayton
One on the 64? Arriva's stellar allocations with these things as usual
Absolutely ridiculous as the 64 is normally busy at all times
Quote from: PointerDart on July 20, 2018, 04:44:28 PM
One on the 64? Arriva's stellar allocations with these things as usual
I saw 1007 on the 20 this morning and was in the middle of the day on the 8, made getting 2504 on the 8A out of work a welcome sight in comparison!
1008 is also floating around.
2536/7 reported as departed home to Derby.
Quote from: Rich-82 on July 20, 2018, 05:15:54 PM
Absolutely ridiculous as the 64 is normally busy at all times
Yeah I've used it between Shrewsbury and Stoke before and it's usually between full and half full on a V1170
2997 has returned once again to Shrewsbury depot; seen on X4/X5 circuit today. Shame to see it leave Telford once again
Quote from: PointerDart on September 01, 2018, 09:32:59 PM
2997 has returned once again to Shrewsbury depot; seen on X4/X5 circuit today. Shame to see it leave Telford once again
Give it a few months she be back at Telford. She never goes far between the 2 garages
Quote from: Rich-82 on September 02, 2018, 08:09:10 AM
Give it a few months she be back at Telford. She never goes far between the 2 garages
I hope she will be!
Quote from: PointerDart on September 02, 2018, 10:14:28 AM
I hope she will be!
She is one of the better versas and still looks very tidy for an 11 year old bus compared to some of the 09s that Shrewsbury operate
Quote from: Rich-82 on September 02, 2018, 10:26:47 AM
She is one of the better versas and still looks very tidy for an 11 year old bus compared to some of the 09s that Shrewsbury operate
The 09 plates are actually quite nice mostly; mainly the Mercedes ones. They're slower but they're very smooth. Not a big fan of the 12/13 plates because they feel slower and the engines have a weird rattling sound, a bit like the early Wright Streetlites would.
Still, 2997 has always been the best, hands down.
Quote from: PointerDart on September 02, 2018, 11:56:58 AM
The 09 plates are actually quite nice mostly; mainly the Mercedes ones. They're slower but they're very smooth. Not a big fan of the 12/13 plates because they feel slower and the engines have a weird rattling sound, a bit like the early Wright Streetlites would.
Still, 2997 has always been the best, hands down.
It's a Cummins engine
Quote from: ntw456 on September 02, 2018, 06:20:14 PM
It's a Cummins engine
I know; that's what makes all the difference. Having said that, the newer Cummins ones are nowhere near as good.
Solo SR 2505 is floating around Shrewsbury, on the 8 today. I understand a repaint cover float, 2974 has been repainted so assume more examples been done for Shrewsbury.
Quote from: Depotosw on October 05, 2018, 07:21:20 PM
Solo SR 2505 is floating around Shrewsbury, on the 8 today. I understand a repaint cover float, 2974 has been repainted so assume more examples been done for Shrewsbury.
Saw a picture of 2974 and it actually looks better than I expected any Versa to look in the new livery
Quote from: PointerDart on October 05, 2018, 07:22:36 PM
Saw a picture of 2974 and it actually looks better than I expected any Versa to look in the new livery
it does look smart and suits it well
MAN powered Versa 2988 YJ09 OTW appears to have made it debut back in Shrewsbury (where it was new) since it's return from Thurmaston and on route 11 Gains Park today.
Telford based Pulsar 2, 3754 YJ59 BUV currently operating in Shrewsbury on route 24 Harlescott.
So far two MAN powered Versas have returned home to Shrewsbury (where they were brand new) in the shape of 2988 and 2989 with Merc powered 2979/82 going to Thurmaston. Can we assume 2990/2991/2992 are expected to follow suit?
Quote from: Westy on December 20, 2018, 10:11:40 PM
Cant Cannock have any of those vehicles like what Telford have run on the Wolves to Bridgnorth service?
They have a curved roof at the front ISTR.
I think Cannock had one on loan a few years back!
They would been good Sapphire refurbished.
Shrewsbury run the 9 (Wolverhampton to Bridgnorth) now
@Westy, not Telford. I caught it a back, in late August - it changed back in July and It interworks with the 436 (Shrewsbury to Bridgnorth via Much Wenlock) at Bridgnorth.
You can stay on the bus through Bridgnorth as the journeys operate from Shrewsbury to Bridgnorth on the 436 and then the same bus carries on to Wolverhampton on the 9 (so essentially its a through journey).
They're optare versa as well.
Quote from: Simon@Arriva on December 21, 2018, 02:50:05 PM
Do you mean Optare Versas?
Yes, he means the Versa that Shrewsbury use on the 9
@Simon@Arriva
Solo SR 2522 YJ09 MMF noted today on the 546 Pulverbatch, first time seen one out. 2517 YJ09 MLX I'm reliability informed was in service today.
Solo SR 2507 YJ58 CCE is now in service in Shrewsbury and noted on the 1 Abbots Green, it also appeared on the 8A short SCAT to Shrewsbury between.
So 2517, 2522 have already been reported and 2506 has been at Oswestry under prep to make four known here. Only departure known so far is 2571 to Leicester, unless anyone knows better.
Solo SR, 2519 YJ09 MLZ is now in use here.
Now live here on Ticketer from today.
2571 at Wigston / Hinckley
Versa fire in Shrewsbury today:
https://www.shropshirelive.com/news/2019/07/09/firefighters-called-to-bus-fire-in-shrewsbury/?fbclid=IwAR1m-Dz_EkrxybUMpVoLcV6ygMOH1meAtD3H6zNW6XP77a-697maPOBPD58
Believed to be 2965 YJ60 LUB but not confirmed.
Chris.
UID E200MMC in ADL livery was spotted at the Dobbies roundabout in Shrewsbury about 1130 this morning. A demonstrator perhaps?
Yutong demonstrator YG18CVS in Raven Meadows bus park with 511 on A4 sheets in the windows. AMN legals but no obvious fleetnumber.
Quote from: mikestone on August 13, 2019, 01:51:50 PM
Yutong demonstrator YG18CVS in Raven Meadows bus park with 511 on A4 sheets in the windows. AMN legals but no obvious fleetnumber.
They've got it as a trial. Usually on the park and ride's so first time I've heard it on anything else.
2504 was involved in an accident in Dorrington
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on September 13, 2019, 12:50:24 PM
2504 was involved in an accident in Dorrington
https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/local-hubs/shrewsbury/2019/09/13/safety-calls-after-bus-collides-with-schoolgirls-in-dorrington/?fbclid=IwAR0T0vytbqF61yi2QTpy6Biq4dFTjE1KlQOU9g3-yKOg3NR9xUJCEah23q8
2504 back in service following accident damage and was working the 8/20 today.
E200MMC 3101 (East Midlands Airport) spotted in Shrewsbury today on park and ride duties.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on November 07, 2019, 04:17:47 PM
E200MMC 3101 (East Midlands Airport) spotted in Shrewsbury today on park and ride duties.
Complete batch coming on loan
How come ? Lost airport contract ?
Quote from: Vulcan on November 07, 2019, 06:47:36 PM
How come ? Lost airport contract ?
Holiday traffic less this time of year
Apparently the car parks in use at this time of year are within walking distance of the terminal so no shuttle buses are needed.
Noticed recently that the 15:45 19 Shrewsbury - Lightmoor - Telford and 17:20 return has been operated by Shrewsbury depot and no Telford as in the past, this this a recent development?
The rest of the 19 is Telford operated.
Quote from: Depotosw on November 29, 2019, 07:45:28 PM
Noticed recently that the 15:45 19 Shrewsbury - Lightmoor - Telford and 17:20 return has been operated by Shrewsbury depot and no Telford as in the past, this this a recent development?
The rest of the 19 is Telford operated.
No, this isn't recent. Usually worked by a solo but there has been a versa on it before.
BYD Enviro 200EV was spotted today in Shrewsbury. Not sure which route it was on as there were no blinds but at a guess, I'd say it was on the P&R's.
Cadet 2745 LF02 PLX was noted parked at the depot here, ticket machine fitted but a section of front grill removed. I don't believe it has seen service in Shrewsbury as yet.
The increased P&R frequency on the Meole Brace is seeing the pimped up Versas, 2974/5/6 that were refurbished for route 1 Abbots Green been favoured so far. The 1 was all Solo today, 2500/2519 and 6010 (ouch!).
Quote from: Depotosw on February 03, 2020, 05:30:54 PM
The increased P&R frequency on the Meole Brace is seeing the pimped up Versas, 2974/5/6 that were refurbished for route 1 Abbots Green been favoured so far. The 1 was all Solo today, 2500/2519 and 6010 (ouch!).
The 1 is frequently operated by solos (although the allocation should be versa's 2974/5/6) and 6004/8/9/10 frequently make an appearance.
2512 from Telford via a weekend at Oswestry is operating here, noted on a 23 Monkmoor.
3699 YJ12 PLN is the first of the 11.7M Versas to gain the new fleet livery. It's currently working on the 07:31 519 Shrewsbury to Newport service.
Shrewsbury town centre, including the bus station closed to all traffic due to flooding. Services starting terminating at:
Frankwell Island: 11,12,20,70/A,Oxon
Castlefields (New Park Rd): 2,24,25,64,511,519,524,Harlescott
Abbey Foregate: 1,8,21,23,26,27,X4,X5,436,Meole Brace
Harlescott P&R: 576
Not sure how the interworking with the 2/12 & 8/20 is going to work given that they can't cross town?
The second V1170, 3694 FJ13 BJO is now in the new fleet livery and seen on the 436 today.
3698 YJ12 PLO now the third of the V1170 in the latest fleet livery. Noted on Shrewsbury depots single input on the 19 afternoon round trip.
If not already arrived due soon is Demonstrator at Shrewsbury YJ19HUV – 10.8m Optare MetroCity Electric
Quote from: trixmax on March 07, 2020, 07:09:47 PM
If not already arrived due soon is Demonstrator at Shrewsbury YJ19HUV – 10.8m Optare MetroCity Electric
No doubt to be on the park & rides?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 07, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
No doubt to be on the park & rides?
On Harlescott P&R on Friday.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 07, 2020, 07:34:36 PM
No doubt to be on the park & rides?
yes it is i got a picture yesterday of it on Harlescott P&R
Why doesn't Shrewsbury operate any form of Sunday service at all? The town centre on a Sunday is pretty busy so there is obviously people who want to go to town. If they were to operate a Sunday service, I think these would be the most suitable routes (based on passenger usage in the week): 1, 11, 24, 25.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 15, 2020, 06:12:43 PM
Why doesn't Shrewsbury operate any form of Sunday service at all? The town centre on a Sunday is pretty busy so there is obviously people who want to go to town. If they were to operate a Sunday service, I think these would be the most suitable routes (based on passenger usage in the week): 1, 11, 24, 25.
There has been Sunday operation over the years but was funded by Shropshire Council, once funding was pulled, so were the services. Oswesrtry even had a two hourly Sunday 70 some years ago.
Quote from: Depotosw on March 15, 2020, 09:05:59 PM
There has been Sunday operation over the years but was funded by Shropshire Council, once funding was pulled, so were the services. Oswesrtry even had a two hourly Sunday 70 some years ago.
Could they not operate them commercially? If there's the demand for it then they'd have no problem.
Because its an affluent county and even for the less well-heeled the family car is available they see n o money in it.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 15, 2020, 06:12:43 PM
Why doesn't Shrewsbury operate any form of Sunday service at all? The town centre on a Sunday is pretty busy so there is obviously people who want to go to town. If they were to operate a Sunday service, I think these would be the most suitable routes (based on passenger usage in the week): 1, 11, 24, 25.
Presumably the same reason as Cannock, not financially viable to open the depot on Sundays
Does anyone know what rotas are at Shrewsbury garage and what routes are on them? The only one I know of is the Bridgnorth rota (9 & 436). Maybe
@Simon@Arriva can help?
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 26, 2020, 10:32:21 AM
Does anyone know what rotas are at Shrewsbury garage and what routes are on them? The only one I know of is the Bridgnorth rota (9 & 436). Maybe @Simon@Arriva can help?
You mean like the interworking?
If I remember correctly, it's something like:
1 are stand-alone
2 & 12 (with a 3A somewhere)
8, 20 & 21
9 & 436
23 & 26
24 & 25 (interworking at Tesco)
27
64 & 164
X4 & X5 (interworking at Telford)
511
519
544 & 546
738 & 740 in Ludlow
Any that I've missed or are incorrect I'm sure someone will correct me :)
Quote from: PointerDart on March 26, 2020, 09:37:57 PM
You mean like the interworking?
If I remember correctly, it's something like:
1 are stand-alone
2 & 12 (with a 3A somewhere)
8, 20 & 21
9 & 436
23 & 26
24 & 25 (interworking at Tesco)
27
64 & 164
X4 & X5 (interworking at Telford)
511
519
544 & 546
738 & 740 in Ludlow
Any that I've missed or are incorrect I'm sure someone will correct me :)
No, I mean the actual rotas (like NX in Wolves have a Wombourne rota consisting of the 2/15/16) not interworking. By the way, the 21 doesn't interwork with anything, its just on its own.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 26, 2020, 10:32:12 PM
No, I mean the actual rotas (like NX in Wolves have a Wombourne rota consisting of the 2/15/16) not interworking. By the way, the 21 doesn't interwork with anything, its just on its own.
Not sure if you'd be able to get the actual rotas. As far as I'm aware it is commercially sensitive information so companies do not release these. Also believe something related to GDPR and protecting drivers comes into play
Quote from: PointerDart on March 27, 2020, 09:45:22 PM
Not sure if you'd be able to get the actual rotas. As far as I'm aware it is commercially sensitive information so companies do not release these. Also believe something related to GDPR and protecting drivers comes into play
I wouldn't have thought it is commercially sensitive information or infringement of GDPR as there is no mention of driver names e.t.c. The only information i'm after is what routes are on what rota. Besides, if you look in other threads, there are posts which show the NX rotas for each garage and what routes are on them. Also, I asked about rotas in the Diamond management thread and got a reply that answered my question. Nothing there that would infringe GDPR
As suggested on the Oswestry thread, Shrewsbury depot have today started assisting Oswestry depot on the 70 service with AM and PM workings starting and ending from Shrewsbury and some duplicates over the daytime trips. 2997 was used on the peaks whilst some Solos provided daytime duplicates to Oswestry based vehicles, one was 6004.
Quote from: Depotosw on June 15, 2020, 07:00:23 PM
As suggested on the Oswestry thread, Shrewsbury depot have today started assisting Oswestry depot on the 70 service with AM and PM workings starting and ending from Shrewsbury and some duplicates over the daytime trips. 2997 was used on the peaks whilst some Solos provided daytime duplicates to Oswestry based vehicles, one was 6004.
Versas are appearing as standard the last few days by all accounts, a snap after work today of 3691 on the 70 bound for Oswestry, it was duplicating Oswestry's 3786 just infront:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/35721472@N08/50017347371/in/pool-2750913@N23
3691 returned alone on the 17:22 70 ex OS. Notable yesterday that 3698 was doing this diagram, back on the route it was new for!
School/college services will have new operators as of tomorrow
S8 (Shrewsbury - London Rd) - Wheadons, Cardiff
S519 (Newport - Shrewsbury) - Wheadons, Cardiff
SX5 (Telford - London Rd) - Regional Transport, Shrewsbury
Quote from: Pat on November 08, 2020, 07:14:34 PM
School/college services will have new operators as of tomorrow
S8 (Shrewsbury - London Rd) - Wheadons, Cardiff
S519 (Newport - Shrewsbury) - Wheadons, Cardiff
SX5 (Telford - London Rd) - Regional Transport, Shrewsbury
thats along way to come from for a contract
Quote from: Rich-82 on November 08, 2020, 07:45:34 PM
thats along way to come from for a contract
I must admit, I was surprised to see that too. There's plenty local operators who could have run it, seen as they are crying out for business due to recent times.
The 9 is to be suspended from next week leaving Bridgnorth without a Wolverhampton link. I wonder if local authorities will step in like they did with diamond's 303 in Kidderminster!
Shrewsbury depot as like last summer, return to provide an input on the 70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury service with Oswestry depot, full detail under the Oswestry thread.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on January 14, 2021, 05:40:24 PM
The 9 is to be suspended from next week leaving Bridgnorth without a Wolverhampton link. I wonder if local authorities will step in like they did with diamond's 303 in Kidderminster!
With the government not wanting people to travel long distances, was there enough people using this to keep it running in the current lockdown? I'd have thought the various companies have been checking usage over the last few weeks to see what coverage is required, and with the "STAY HOME" message getting enforced more vigorously, there may not be a need for it at the moment.
Quote from: ellspurs on January 16, 2021, 05:15:13 PM
With the government not wanting people to travel long distances, was there enough people using this to keep it running in the current lockdown? I'd have thought the various companies have been checking usage over the last few weeks to see what coverage is required, and with the "STAY HOME" message getting enforced more vigorously, there may not be a need for it at the moment.
The government want all essential workers to be able to get to work and are providing the finances to operate these services
Quote from: Tony on January 16, 2021, 05:16:27 PM
The government want all essential workers to be able to get to work and are providing the finances to operate these services
I had a look at their website and there is a timetable for that service for date commencing 16th January.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/help/coronavirus/coronavirus-timetable-information
So not sure where that comes from.
Quote from: Tony on January 16, 2021, 05:16:27 PM
The government want all essential workers to be able to get to work and are providing the finances to operate these services
Ok, I've just looked on Arriva's website and they've revised the 9 timetable from today which is showing a roughly hour service. No mention of it being suspended.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/help/coronavirus/coronavirus-timetable-information
@BusMan Greg where did you see your info?
Edit:
@2206 beat me to the punch, as usual.
Quote from: ellspurs on January 16, 2021, 05:26:40 PM
Ok, I've just looked on Arriva's website and they've revised the 9 timetable from today which is showing a roughly hour service. No mention of it being suspended.
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/help/coronavirus/coronavirus-timetable-information
@BusMan Greg where did you see your info?
Edit: @2206 beat me to the punch, as usual.
On the website it said it was suspended from Monday when I checked a couple of days ago! Obviously things have changed since I last checked
Quote from: BusMan Greg on January 16, 2021, 06:17:18 PM
On the website it said it was suspended from Monday when I checked a couple of days ago! Obviously things have changed since I last checked
Yes, it was a mistake. The 9 will continue to run.
Notable the last week or so that Shrewsbury depot input on the 70 to Oswestry has been fairly 'down at the heal' compared to Oswestry depots on the same days. I recall asking Simon a couple of years ago on his thread how often buses should be washed and he said 'daily' so very sad to see Shrewsbury have slipped back into putting buses out caked in thick mud that's nearing in some cases a week old. Noting 2501 and 2976 today in such a state and quite frankly a embarrassment really when a small depot like Oswestry, without an automated bus wash can turn out a fleet and well presented fleet of clean buses.
Quote from: Depotosw on February 10, 2021, 02:17:40 PM
Notable the last week or so that Shrewsbury depot input on the 70 to Oswestry has been fairly 'down at the heal' compared to Oswestry depots on the same days. I recall asking Simon a couple of years ago on his thread how often buses should be washed and he said 'daily' so very sad to see Shrewsbury have slipped back into putting buses out caked in thick mud that's nearing in some cases a week old. Noting 2501 and 2976 today in such a state and quite frankly a embarrassment really when a small depot like Oswestry, without an automated bus wash can turn out a fleet and well presented fleet of clean buses.
AFAIK, buses are now washed every 3 days. Also, vehicles on country runs like the 70 will get more dirtier than something running round on town services.
Quote from: Pat on February 10, 2021, 02:33:41 PM
AFAIK, buses are now washed every 3 days. Also, vehicles on country runs like the 70 will get more dirtier than something running round on town services.
Thanks for the reply, interesting to note 3 days, is this a company wide thing with Midlands? Oswestry are certainly washing their buses more than every three days, they actually look a credit to Arriva. Arriva Cymru also for example as a rule wash their fleet on a daily basis, except outstations.
The point here is the dirt carried is not from that days operation on the 70, it's been gained from many other days in service to the point they look a disgrace when leaving the depot that morning for start of service. Oswestry are interworking the 70 and 576, the 70 as a rule is a fairly main road run whilst the 576 can make the buses very dirty due to the backlane nature, yet they look much more presentable after a days work, even when conditions are not as good. Most of Oswestry's routes are not local town routes yet they keep a clean and tidy fleet day in day out.
At one time and not so long ago, it would be common to see Shrewsbury running buses on locals, caked in the same mud for a week and yes that included the height of summer!
Quote from: Depotosw on February 10, 2021, 02:59:31 PM
Thanks for the reply, interesting to note 3 days, is this a company wide thing with Midlands? Oswestry are certainly washing their buses more than every three days, they actually look a credit to Arriva. Arriva Cymru also for example as a rule wash their fleet on a daily basis, except outstations.
The point here is the dirt carried is not from that days operation on the 70, it's been gained from many other days in service to the point they look a disgrace when leaving the depot that morning for start of service. Oswestry are interworking the 70 and 576, the 70 as a rule is a fairly main road run whilst the 576 can make the buses very dirty due to the backlane nature, yet they look much more presentable after a days work, even when conditions are not as good. Most of Oswestry's routes are not local town routes yet they keep a clean and tidy fleet day in day out.
From what you've said about Oswestry's washing facilities, I take it they use some form of pressure washer? Is it a portable one, or fixed as if it's portable it's much easier to get all of the fleet done regularly.
At one time and not so long ago, it would be common to see Shrewsbury running buses on locals, caked in the same mud for a week and yes that included the height of summer!
Not sure if it's a Midlands wise thing. Telford's standards aren't the best either at times. I think it's more to do with a capacity/space issue with washing buses, as Shrewsbury and Telford both have more buses than Oswestry do. Plus the fact that both use a proper bus wash, it would mean buses having to be left somewhere until they can be taken through.
I've just read something regarding this. Apparently it's a H&S risk to wash buses below certain temperatures.
Quote from: Pat on February 10, 2021, 05:52:11 PM
I've just read something regarding this. Apparently it's a H&S risk to wash buses below certain temperatures.
It will depend where the wash is. It is not good if the water runs off the bus and then freezes on the ground
Most washes shut down automatically at 3 degrees to prevent damage to the wash. Depends if washes are covered and where positioned in the depot when they get to this point.
Oswestry appear to have loaned Shrewsbury depot, 3791 FL63 DXZ, it was seen working on one of the Shrewsbury depot, Covid related diagrams today on the 70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury and tracking as 'SP SY' on BusTimes.org.
Following on from 3791 reporting as operating as 'SP SY' on BusTimes yesterday (having physically seen it covering on a Shrewsbury depot turn), 3788 is doing the same today on the 13:02 70 ex Oswestry, crewed by a Oswestry driver too and noted as tracking as 'SP SY'.
I understand the above could be related to Shrewsbury depot dropping some services today due to driver absence (reported on the Arriva Midlands West Facebook Profile).
Does anybody know which bus caught fire today in Shrewsbury?
Quote from: Rich-82 on April 28, 2021, 02:46:09 PM
Does anybody know which bus caught fire today in Shrewsbury?
Now believed to be 2988 YJ09OTW Optare Versa
Anyone know whats up with Solo 2507 Im still looking for this but its not been out since November last year.
Quote from: spw24 on January 08, 2024, 01:42:55 PMAnyone know whats up with Solo 2507 Im still looking for this but its not been out since November last year.
possibly withdrawn as I think the Solo SRs are slowly being removed from service