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Title: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Solo1 on August 01, 2014, 06:49:58 AM
Any one know where former metrobuses
6831-6835 are now.
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Bob on August 01, 2014, 09:25:45 AM
Why were 6831-6834 withdrawn so early?
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: The Real 4778 on August 01, 2014, 11:56:31 AM
6835 is famously preserved at Wythall

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55205968@N03/7936119636/

6832 is also preserved, or was as recently as 2012.

6831-34 were lower than standard Metrobuses, I think.  6835 was production standard?
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Tony on August 01, 2014, 12:02:05 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on August 01, 2014, 11:56:31 AM
6835 is famously preserved at Wythall

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55205968@N03/7936119636/

And 6832 was saved by the late Ronnie Morgan.

All others long since scrapped
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: The Real 4778 on August 01, 2014, 12:05:01 PM
What the man said! 

I was editing as Tony was submitting his post!

Thanks Tony!!!
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: D10 on August 01, 2014, 09:26:48 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on August 01, 2014, 11:56:31 AM
6835 is famously preserved at Wythall

http://www.flickr.com/photos/55205968@N03/7936119636/

6832 is also preserved, or was as recently as 2012.

6831-34 were lower than standard Metrobuses, I think.  6835 was production standard?

Yeah I think so, certainly in terms of interiors, I recall 6831-4 as having a similar interior style to Fleetlines in terms of panels and seats?
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Bob on August 02, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Yea but my point was that the fleetline's with those panels and interiors survived a lot longer thsn 6831-4. Plus 7006/7 had the fleetline interior as well and they lasted longer. Did they keep their eagle engines til the end?
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: don on August 02, 2014, 02:11:33 PM
They started off at different garages like the Titans:-
6831 - Washwood Heath
6832 - Coventry
6833 - Dudley
6834 - Wolverhampton (Cleveland Rd/Bilston St)
6835 - Perry Barr

6831 was around for some time before 6832-6834 appeared and all had non standard stripes and black window surrounds. 6835 entered service after the 1978 motor show (ie some months after the others) and had more standard livery and what became standard castle moquette orange seats. Not sure whether the other interior finishes on 6831-6834 were standard Fleetline colours but probably!

All were later congregated at Dudley in the way the Titans were moved to Perry Barr.

Metrobuses started to be withdrawn in small numbers around 1989 (before the last entered service) some famously ending up with Stevensons and competing with TWM (via breakers) - I seem to recall some of these early ones were withdrawn in that era, no doubt having had a hard life at Dudley and it's hills and fullish daytime utilisation then. I guess it was to save cost and volume of maintenance repairs at that time, particularly with new buses coming.

It's to be hoped 6832 continues to survive as one of the earliest production Mettobuses (or were 6831-6834 pre production)

For the record Titans (I think) were:-
7001 - Perry Barr
7002 - Selly Oak
7003 - ?
7004 - Walsall
7005 - Coventry
My memory is sketchy on these and I though one was at Washwood Heath possibly? So please correct if anyone knows!! The Coventry one had stick on Leyland adverts on every window when I saw it.
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Isle of Stroma on August 02, 2014, 02:51:06 PM
Quote from: don on August 02, 2014, 02:11:33 PM
For the record Titans (I think) were:-
7001 - Perry Barr
7002 - Selly Oak
7003 - ?
7004 - Walsall
7005 - Coventry
My memory is sketchy on these and I though one was at Washwood Heath possibly? So please correct if anyone knows!! The Coventry one had stick on Leyland adverts on every window when I saw it.

7001 WH, 7002 SO, 7003 WA, 7004 PB, 7005 HN.
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Bob on August 02, 2014, 09:55:04 PM
I dont remember stevensons having any of the four tho. What happened to BOM 6/7V?
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Cheese on August 02, 2014, 10:13:51 PM
Quote from: Bob on August 02, 2014, 09:55:04 PM
I dont remember stevensons having any of the four tho. What happened to BOM 6/7V?

One or both of BOM6/7V went to MK Metro didn't they?
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Westy on August 02, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
Must admit I don't remember a Titan at Walsall.

Did it have a regular route?
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: lynx1103 on August 02, 2014, 11:59:28 PM
Quote from: Bob on August 02, 2014, 09:55:04 PM
I dont remember stevensons having any of the four tho. What happened to BOM 6/7V?

Stevensons had SDA 831S for spares.

7006/7007 went to MK Metro.

I believe 7007 lasted until 1997 at Acocks Green Garage.
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: busfan2847 on August 03, 2014, 02:44:44 AM
Quote from: lynx1103 on August 02, 2014, 11:59:28 PM
Quote from: Bob on August 02, 2014, 09:55:04 PM
I dont remember stevensons having any of the four tho. What happened to BOM 6/7V?

Stevensons had SDA 831S for spares.

7006/7007 went to MK Metro.

I believe 7007 lasted until 1997 at Acocks Green Garage.
7006 was withdrawn in 1992, 7007 in 1998.
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Bob on August 03, 2014, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 02, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
Must admit I don't remember a Titan at Walsall.

Did it have a regular route?

It was only there a couple of years before they all got moved to one garage not sure which.  It used to go on the 51 a bit
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: 4006 on August 03, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
6835:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaUVtheXNF4&list=UUxRPbrtsvxvdvookaesgDHA

7007:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/mcw1987/4840189019/in/photolist-ajM4Yd-cpbrXA-dtAN1H-dtV73g-du1ETA-dw5c3J-8nHeyP-7WsArW-476b92-9qR5zj-bQNM5F-cYboBS-8Z63rT-acBeeB-acE3ob

6835 had my favorite west midlands livery with the black skirt and window frames  :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/retroscania/9612690532/in/photolist-9qR5zj-7YvKe8-bwJqj2-cCL4sb-cBChL3-geqxH6-g6f9Yr-eVX54g-ehnvWb-nx9jom-nJBjwd-niFzAb-nj1fR1-nMz5Rq-g7cQaf-dmEpmh-jY7SV9-awjrCq-ehu9Nb-ehu3oG-dk4hh9-fFRCcj-fFS1rL-fFSbt9-geMSwr-fCteEN-gByXZY-dnHQZc-inNb6w-fDrxZE-awqmCU-awiPRY-gjPSy9-aHJmDe-g5HphZ-dmVBYF-niqc2S-h1BkCx-euBZRP-fCdxC4-g9awpC-goPr3V-ehm6MM-axLFqp-dN9X4d-5rBBwL-dHNBDr-cBza9y-gsg6q8-g5gd9w
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Isle of Stroma on August 03, 2014, 04:12:24 PM
Quote from: 4006 on August 03, 2014, 12:53:18 PM
6835 had my favorite west midlands livery with the black skirt and window frames  :)

This forum desperately needs a 'like' button again!
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Mick the gent on August 03, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
I remember seeing 6833 at Stevensons years ago,it had a engine fire en route to Burton,so was stripped for spares like 6831.What happened to 6834 ? I heard it was used as a tracline demonstration bus up north at tees or united.Any one know exactly what happened to it ?
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: Tony on August 03, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
Quote from: Mick the gent on August 03, 2014, 06:37:50 PM
I remember seeing 6833 at Stevensons years ago,it had a engine fire en route to Burton,so was stripped for spares like 6831.What happened to 6834 ? I heard it was used as a tracline demonstration bus up north at tees or united.Any one know exactly what happened to it ?

If I remember correctly, that was the one that the body was stripped off, and the chassis sat in Selly Oak for some time
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: don on August 04, 2014, 12:16:53 AM
Quote from: Bob on August 03, 2014, 11:38:14 AM
Quote from: Westy on August 02, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
Must admit I don't remember a Titan at Walsall.

Did it have a regular route?

It was only there a couple of years before they all got moved to one garage not sure which.  It used to go on the 51 a bit

They were all moved to PB.
Title: Re: 6831 -6835 metrobuses
Post by: don on August 04, 2014, 12:21:11 AM
Excellent video of 6835 - some great sound effects. I must admit I don't recall 6835 having the narrow cream band and black window surrounds but I'm sure the guys at Wythall have done their research. 2001 onwards had the wider cream band and blue window surrounds (but black skirts) - also 7006 and IIRC - strange what 35 yrs odd does to the memory!!