Just reported on the radio that a bus is on fire by Morrisons, Rubery. Bristol Rd South closed as a result anyone able to ID?
4613.
Engine fire by the looks of it
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10371954_745566918826714_5215931809421910541_n.png
Was just about to say before you edited your post, John, suspected engine fire.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 14, 2014, 03:53:18 PM
Was just about to say before you edited your post, John, suspected engine fire.
Cheers LS / John,
Quote from: Winston on May 14, 2014, 03:55:01 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 14, 2014, 03:53:18 PM
Was just about to say before you edited your post, John, suspected engine fire.
Cheers LS / John,
Issues, there be none.
Sad to see another trident on fire :(
Seen on Birmingham updates:
https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-0/10371954_745566918826714_5215931809421910541_n.png
Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 14, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
Sad to see another trident on fire :(
Seen on Birmingham updates:
https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-0/10371954_745566918826714_5215931809421910541_n.png
I wonder how bad the damage is? I'd certainly imagine this will go for repaint/refurb after repairs?
Burn trident burn!!!
I thought it was only Mercs that had a burning desire...obviously I was wrong!
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Is it a first for the dreadful ZF box variant?
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Yes whilst on the 900 on the A45 iirc?
Quote from: Nathan on May 14, 2014, 04:59:47 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Yes whilst on the 900 on the A45 iirc?
Correct. That's what you get when you don't listen to a RED warning light on your dashboard.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 14, 2014, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Is it a first for the dreadful ZF box variant?
From memory yes, but I could be wrong! Might have been a wolves one go up before now too on a smaller scale.
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 14, 2014, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Is it a first for the dreadful ZF box variant?
From memory yes, but I could be wrong! Might have been a wolves one go up before now too on a smaller scale.
4312 suffered an engine fire in 2007
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Considering the number of Tridents in the NX fleet, the Tridents haven't really had that much of a 'burning desire' to catch fire
Quote from: Winston on May 14, 2014, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Considering the number of Tridents in the NX fleet, the Tridents haven't really had that much of a 'burning desire' to catch fire
There's been plenty in other parts of the country (particularly on motorway runs), I'd say NXs are ageing quite well overall.
Quote from: John on May 14, 2014, 05:03:55 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 05:02:42 PM
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 14, 2014, 04:58:10 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Is it a first for the dreadful ZF box variant?
From memory yes, but I could be wrong! Might have been a wolves one go up before now too on a smaller scale.
4312 suffered an engine fire in 2007
Yes but I'm on about the ZF's, boss.
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: Winston on May 14, 2014, 05:04:16 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 04:57:11 PM
This isn't a first for either garage or vehicle type, 4336 springs to mind!
Considering the number of Tridents in the NX fleet, the Tridents haven't really had that much of a 'burning desire' to catch fire
There's been plenty in other parts of the country (particularly on motorway runs), I'd say NXs are ageing quite well overall.
London operators have experienced a number of fires, but there a higher number than here in WM. NX Tridents have done pretty well if you compare the fleet size / against no of fires with other types such as Presidents / Mercs / B6LE etc
Quote from: Nathan on May 14, 2014, 05:12:26 PM
There isn't any ones at WN that have caught fire (Well not engine fires anyway) as far as i'm aware
No detail attached but yes there has Nathan.
If we get a very warm summer with temperatures frequently about 30 celsius, I wonder what impact this will have on the number of bus fires.
Also on a side note, I don't remember many Metrobuses lighting up.
Quote from: Matt on May 14, 2014, 05:38:25 PM
If we get a very warm summer with temperatures frequently about 30 celsius, I wonder what impact this will have on the number of bus fires.
Also on a side note, I don't remember many Metrobuses lighting up.
Not so much fires, more a case of overheating with lack of water! [They should cut out when the temp sensor says so .]
first we had 1688 on fire and now this with 4613 whats going on?
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 14, 2014, 05:43:26 PM
first we had 1688 on fire and now this with 4613 whats going on?
It's bloody nxwmbusfan1999 going around with firestarters trying to eliminate buses which he has yet to have a ride on! Shame on you
Quote from: Liverpool Street on May 14, 2014, 05:45:03 PM
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on May 14, 2014, 05:43:26 PM
first we had 1688 on fire and now this with 4613 whats going on?
It's bloody nxwmbusfan1999 going around with firestarters trying to eliminate buses which he has yet to have a ride on! Shame on you
lol :) I would never do that to nxwm
Well at least it didn't happen to a refurbished trident ;) Was it in service at the time and I trust everyone is alright?
Quote from: Liberator9 on May 14, 2014, 06:34:07 PM
Well at least it didn't happen to a refurbished trident ;) Was it in service at the time and I trust everyone is alright?
Was on a 63 at the time, no injuries
Quote from: Matt on May 14, 2014, 05:38:25 PM
If we get a very warm summer with temperatures frequently about 30 celsius, I wonder what impact this will have on the number of bus fires.
Also on a side note, I don't remember many Metrobuses lighting up.
Apparently, Saturday will be the hottest day of the year, according to Good Morning Britain. Wonder if there might be a bus fire on that day? If it happens - don't blame it on me lol.
@trident4370 was 4336 withdrawn?
4336 was completely burned to the ground
You can still see the patch of replaced tarmac on the A45 where it caught fire
Getting back to topic, on ye olde Facebook it's been annoying reading some of the comments left on Birmingham Updates posts, basically along the lines of "too many fires, never catching the bus again", "do they not maintain vehicles" etc etc.
It's quite sad that there is this public perception. Anyone would think that all 1500 of NX's buses were ready to catch fire any second!
Quote from: Stu on May 14, 2014, 08:23:07 PM
Getting back to topic, on ye olde Facebook it's been annoying reading some of the comments left on Birmingham Updates posts, basically along the lines of "too many fires, never catching the bus again", "do they not maintain vehicles" etc etc.
It's quite sad that there is this public perception. Anyone would think that all 1500 of NX's buses were ready to catch fire any second!
The thing is that the more buses you operate, the higher the risk that one will catch fire. And the good thing (if there can be a good thing about a fire) is that nobody has been injured.
Quote from: John on May 14, 2014, 06:36:11 PM
Quote from: Liberator9 on May 14, 2014, 06:34:07 PM
Well at least it didn't happen to a refurbished trident ;) Was it in service at the time and I trust everyone is alright?
Was on a 63 at the time, no injuries
Thanks John; glad to hear.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 14, 2014, 08:29:52 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 14, 2014, 08:23:07 PM
Getting back to topic, on ye olde Facebook it's been annoying reading some of the comments left on Birmingham Updates posts, basically along the lines of "too many fires, never catching the bus again", "do they not maintain vehicles" etc etc.
It's quite sad that there is this public perception. Anyone would think that all 1500 of NX's buses were ready to catch fire any second!
The thing is that the more buses you operate, the higher the risk that one will catch fire. And the good thing (if there can be a good thing about a fire) is that nobody has been injured.
When you consider the long hours modern buses operate, and the mileage they cover, occasional engine fires are unsurprising. They've happened for years, I recall seeing Fleetlines and Metrobuses suffering engine fires but generally you only knew about them if they were local to you. But in these days of online and social media, news about them spreads like wild fire, if you'll pardon the pun.
LS just so you know I had 2 emails mentioning this topic and me being tagged, when I got here just no comment was found but if you were testing the +1 in profile and emails then they worked!
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 11:05:25 PM
LS just so you know I had 2 emails mentioning this topic and me being tagged, when I got here just no comment was found but if you were testing the +1 in profile and emails then they worked!
Yeah your username was used in testing, although I think
@Sh4318 asked you a question first
Quote from: Matt on May 14, 2014, 11:14:42 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on May 14, 2014, 11:05:25 PM
LS just so you know I had 2 emails mentioning this topic and me being tagged, when I got here just no comment was found but if you were testing the +1 in profile and emails then they worked!
Yeah your username was used in testing, although I think @Sh4318 asked you a question first
haha my fault for not coming on to see what was going on, nice new feature though I can see it being handy in the "buses to find" section.
One less trident = one less problem. The main thing is nobody got hurt :)
Don't the presidents seem to have more of a chance of catching fire? Especially the ones ran on the 11.
Quote from: Mike K on May 14, 2014, 09:15:46 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on May 14, 2014, 08:29:52 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 14, 2014, 08:23:07 PM
Getting back to topic, on ye olde Facebook it's been annoying reading some of the comments left on Birmingham Updates posts, basically along the lines of "too many fires, never catching the bus again", "do they not maintain vehicles" etc etc.
It's quite sad that there is this public perception. Anyone would think that all 1500 of NX's buses were ready to catch fire any second!
The thing is that the more buses you operate, the higher the risk that one will catch fire. And the good thing (if there can be a good thing about a fire) is that nobody has been injured.
When you consider the long hours modern buses operate, and the mileage they cover, occasional engine fires are unsurprising. They've happened for years, I recall seeing Fleetlines and Metrobuses suffering engine fires but generally you only knew about them if they were local to you. But in these days of online and social media, news about them spreads like wild fire, if you'll pardon the pun.
This is true but they do appear to have become a more frequent occurrence in the last couple of years, especially the more catastrophic ones resulting in vehicles being written off.
just found this on facebook - don't know if its the same bus:
@wbdriver that looks bad!
Quote from: wbdriver on May 21, 2014, 03:56:42 PM
just found this on facebook - don't know if its the same bus:
Reckon if this was Y reg Trident it would definitely be toast, pardon the pun, but looking at that its going to need quite an extensive repair, we'll wait and see what happens!
@wbdriver - it is the same bus. It is 4613.
Any News on 4613's future? :)
Quote from: Rob on May 22, 2014, 07:26:10 PM
Any News on 4613's future? :)
Hopefully it begins with a B and ends in arnsley
Quote from: Matt on May 22, 2014, 07:43:12 PM
Quote from: Rob on May 22, 2014, 07:26:10 PM
Any News on 4613's future? :)
Hopefully it begins with a B and ends in arnsley
You're so spiteful
@Matt ;) lmao Don't be so nasty against the final batch ;)
Are there any photos or updates on the bus being repaired?
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 28, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Are there any photos or updates on the bus being repaired?
How many more times are you going to ask?
Quote from: Winston on September 28, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 28, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Are there any photos or updates on the bus being repaired?
How many more times are you going to ask?
Probably till I get an answer, but sorry. I asked one time on the BC thread but no one was answering so I asked again but still no answer, so I thought they will only answer if I post it in the right thread, so I posted the same question here.
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 02, 2014, 05:27:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 28, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 28, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Are there any photos or updates on the bus being repaired?
How many more times are you going to ask?
Probably till I get an answer, but sorry. I asked one time on the BC thread but no one was answering so I asked again but still no answer, so I thought they will only answer if I post it in the right thread, so I posted the same question here.
As no one has answered after the third time of you asking, I think it's safe to assume no one has any photo's or can give you an update ;)
Quote from: Winston on October 02, 2014, 05:49:57 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 02, 2014, 05:27:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 28, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 28, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Are there any photos or updates on the bus being repaired?
How many more times are you going to ask?
Probably till I get an answer, but sorry. I asked one time on the BC thread but no one was answering so I asked again but still no answer, so I thought they will only answer if I post it in the right thread, so I posted the same question here.
As no one has answered after the third time of you asking, I think it's safe to assume no one has any photo's or can give you an update ;)
I might go myself. Are you allowed inside Carlyle?
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 02, 2014, 07:04:40 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 02, 2014, 05:49:57 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 02, 2014, 05:27:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 28, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 28, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Are there any photos or updates on the bus being repaired?
How many more times are you going to ask?
Probably till I get an answer, but sorry. I asked one time on the BC thread but no one was answering so I asked again but still no answer, so I thought they will only answer if I post it in the right thread, so I posted the same question here.
As no one has answered after the third time of you asking, I think it's safe to assume no one has any photo's or can give you an update ;)
I might go myself. Are you allowed inside?
No,
it'll be out soon, in the worlds of the legendary Michael Winner, RIP, 'Calm down dear'
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 02, 2014, 07:04:40 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 02, 2014, 05:49:57 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 02, 2014, 05:27:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 28, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 28, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Are there any photos or updates on the bus being repaired?
How many more times are you going to ask?
Probably till I get an answer, but sorry. I asked one time on the BC thread but no one was answering so I asked again but still no answer, so I thought they will only answer if I post it in the right thread, so I posted the same question here.
As no one has answered after the third time of you asking, I think it's safe to assume no one has any photo's or can give you an update ;)
I might go myself. Are you allowed inside Carlyle?
If I know of any news people might be interested in, then I post it (as long as it is not something NX want kept secret). 4613 is still at Carlyle. Its seats are still at Miller Street, all retrimmed waiting for it to get to Walsall for them to be refitted
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on October 02, 2014, 07:07:29 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 02, 2014, 07:04:40 PM
Quote from: Winston on October 02, 2014, 05:49:57 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on October 02, 2014, 05:27:39 PM
Quote from: Winston on September 28, 2014, 12:23:44 PM
Quote from: ronnoc1k8 on September 28, 2014, 11:57:39 AM
Are there any photos or updates on the bus being repaired?
How many more times are you going to ask?
Probably till I get an answer, but sorry. I asked one time on the BC thread but no one was answering so I asked again but still no answer, so I thought they will only answer if I post it in the right thread, so I posted the same question here.
As no one has answered after the third time of you asking, I think it's safe to assume no one has any photo's or can give you an update ;)
I might go myself. Are you allowed inside?
No,
it'll be out soon, in the worlds of the legendary Michael Winner, RIP, 'Calm down dear'
Woah. Stop.
Michael Winner is dead?
4613 is now moving around Carlyle under its own power again, so will hopefully be back soon
Quote from: Tony on November 24, 2014, 03:41:57 PM
4613 is now moving around Carlyle under its own power again, so will hopefully be back soon
Yaay! Good news!