4725 BU07LHB Is carting the wrong registration number
On the front it is reading BU57LHB
Out on the 18 this afternoon
The inspector I told didn't believe me
Don't know if it is true or not but it does sound a bit far fetched
Quote from: NXDom on April 28, 2014, 05:03:52 PM
Don't know if it is true or not but it does sound a bit far fetched
If you look very closely it does indeed have the reg BU57 LHB instead of BU07 LHB!
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4725.html
It appears i'm wrong, my apologies.
Is it not possible that it has been re-registered like the Omnicity Deckers? Surely NX wouldn't make such a basic mistake giving it the wrong reg, I mean they aren't exactly VIP are they.
Doing a vehicle search on the DVLA shows BU07 LHB as taxed until 1/1/15, and BU57 LHB returns no results (as an Alexander Dennis, anyway). Surely these two reg numbers are too similar for it to be a re-registration? 1 number difference?
Quote from: N94 on April 28, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
Doing a vehicle search on the DVLA shows BU07 LHB as taxed until 1/1/15, and BU57 LHB returns no results (as an Alexander Dennis, anyway). Surely these two reg numbers are too similar for it to be a re-registration? 1 number difference?
Yes I suspect just a simple mistake by someone who makes the plates in the paint shop
Lets hope the bus has been taken off the road until a new plate is obtained, don't want the old bill pulling the bus over!
Quote from: trident4370 on April 28, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Is it not possible that it has been re-registered like the Omnicity Deckers? Surely NX wouldn't make such a basic mistake giving it the wrong reg, I mean they aren't exactly VIP are they.
It wouldn't be the first time it has happened, one of the Spectras (possibly 4021?) carried an incorrect rear number plate for a while when they were at BC.
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on April 28, 2014, 06:35:31 PM
Lets hope the bus has been taken off the road until a new plate is obtained, don't want the old bill pulling the bus over!
Well I seen it several times the last been about 1720
Might be back in garage by now tho
Also y wud I lye I seen it with my own 2 eyes
And tony pictured it out side paint shop
And u can make out the number plate
Quote from: Tony on April 28, 2014, 06:31:50 PM
Quote from: N94 on April 28, 2014, 06:29:01 PM
Doing a vehicle search on the DVLA shows BU07 LHB as taxed until 1/1/15, and BU57 LHB returns no results (as an Alexander Dennis, anyway). Surely these two reg numbers are too similar for it to be a re-registration? 1 number difference?
Yes I suspect just a simple mistake by someone who makes the plates in the paint shop
Speaking as someone who used to make number plates in my line of work, these kind of mistakes do happen! :-[
I once recall one of my Kwik-Fit customers ordering parts for a vehicle they had in; the guy gave me the registration, I put it into our VRM lookup, he told me "no, that's not it!". He then went and checked the back of the car, "oh, it's different!". He was more upset by the fact that the vehicle had just passed its MOT and just needed a service! :D
I stand corrected with regard to my comment then.
Quote from: trident4370 on April 28, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Is it not possible that it has been re-registered like the Omnicity Deckers? Surely NX wouldn't make such a basic mistake giving it the wrong reg, I mean they aren't exactly VIP are they.
One would hope that they would be dealt with in exactly the same way as VIP as technically it is exactly the same offence. There is no difference between one digit being wrong and it having completely the wrong registration. A company like NX should have had systems in place to stop it ever getting onto the road in the first place, just as any other operator.
Of course if this was Arriva, most on here would want their licence taken off them but as it's little old NX it's a mere laughing matter...
Quote from: andy on April 29, 2014, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on April 28, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Is it not possible that it has been re-registered like the Omnicity Deckers? Surely NX wouldn't make such a basic mistake giving it the wrong reg, I mean they aren't exactly VIP are they.
One would hope that they would be dealt with in exactly the same way as VIP as technically it is exactly the same offence. There is no difference between one digit being wrong and it having completely the wrong registration. A company like NX should have had systems in place to stop it ever getting onto the road in the first place, just as any other operator.
Of course if this was Arriva, most on here would want their licence taken off them but as it's little old NX it's a mere laughing matter...
Yes it is wrong and shouldn't happen, but there is a big difference between that and what VIP did. VIP are being accused of doing it as a deliberate act for gain at the PI
Quote from: Tony on April 29, 2014, 01:57:11 PM
Quote from: andy on April 29, 2014, 01:29:57 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on April 28, 2014, 05:46:03 PM
Is it not possible that it has been re-registered like the Omnicity Deckers? Surely NX wouldn't make such a basic mistake giving it the wrong reg, I mean they aren't exactly VIP are they.
One would hope that they would be dealt with in exactly the same way as VIP as technically it is exactly the same offence. There is no difference between one digit being wrong and it having completely the wrong registration. A company like NX should have had systems in place to stop it ever getting onto the road in the first place, just as any other operator.
Of course if this was Arriva, most on here would want their licence taken off them but as it's little old NX it's a mere laughing matter...
Yes it is wrong and shouldn't happen, but there is a big difference between that and what VIP did. VIP are being accused of doing it as a deliberate act for gain at the PI
Well this is a dilemna for the PI isn't it? The offence is the same so you can't punish the offence (unless there is a previous one) any more severely if you haven't applied the rule to others. So they have to prove that the intention to defraud was there. And how do they do that? Even barristers in a court of law regularly get charges thrown out because you can't prove intent or motive.
VIP may yet get a reprieve, not that I'd be happy about it.
Also on the second picture taken last year of 4725 it is driving around with its main beam on! I appreciate the headlight is out but to dazzle other road users is worse than a light out!
Quote from: andy on April 29, 2014, 01:29:57 PM
One would hope that they would be dealt with in exactly the same way as VIP as technically it is exactly the same offence. There is no difference between one digit being wrong and it having completely the wrong registration. A company like NX should have had systems in place to stop it ever getting onto the road in the first place, just as any other operator.
How many died and were injured?
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 30, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
Quote from: andy on April 29, 2014, 01:29:57 PM
One would hope that they would be dealt with in exactly the same way as VIP as technically it is exactly the same offence. There is no difference between one digit being wrong and it having completely the wrong registration. A company like NX should have had systems in place to stop it ever getting onto the road in the first place, just as any other operator.
How many died and were injured?
And your point?
Its got the correct registration now.
Quote from: trident4370 on April 30, 2014, 01:36:51 PM
Its got the correct registration now.
It was corrected after a few hours in service on the first day
Quote from: andy on April 30, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 30, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
How many died and were injured?
And your point?
My point was the over-reaction to a teeny insignificant infraction of an obscure licensing regulation that could never harm anyone!
It made me smile and shake my head!
Incorrect registrations happen every now and again.
The last I recall seeing was when 3050 received it's second repaint into BCT livery. Ran in service as F50FOX instead of F50XOF
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 30, 2014, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: andy on April 30, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 30, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
How many died and were injured?
And your point?
My point was the over-reaction to a teeny insignificant infraction of an obscure licensing regulation that could never harm anyone!
It made me smile and shake my head!
And my point was that some people's over reaction on here depends on who the operator is.
Quote from: Tony on April 30, 2014, 01:46:31 PM
Quote from: trident4370 on April 30, 2014, 01:36:51 PM
Its got the correct registration now.
It was corrected after a few hours in service on the first day
I had a feeling that would have been the case but wasn't sure as today was the first time I've seen it.
Quote from: andy on April 30, 2014, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 30, 2014, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: andy on April 30, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 30, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
How many died and were injured?
And your point?
And my point was that some people's over reaction on here depends on who the operator is.
With you.
I chuckled at a stranded VIP blocking Gravelly Hill this morning.
Quote from: The Real 4778 on May 01, 2014, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: andy on April 30, 2014, 03:22:28 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 30, 2014, 02:45:09 PM
Quote from: andy on April 30, 2014, 12:52:21 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on April 30, 2014, 11:42:43 AM
How many died and were injured?
And your point?
With you.
I chuckled at a stranded VIP blocking Gravelly Hill this morning.
My point was the over-reaction to a teeny insignificant infraction of an obscure licensing regulation that could never harm anyone!
It made me smile and shake my head!
And my point was that some people's over reaction on here depends on who the operator is.
However insignificant, the law is the law and you can't pick and choose unfortunately.
What is significant is that the error was spotted and corrected quicly, the sign of a good operator.
As has probably been stated (or at least alluded to) already, there is a big difference between manufacturing a number plate incorrectly by accident, and putting a number plate from one vehicle onto another deliberately.
Quote from: Stu on May 01, 2014, 08:19:12 PM
As has probably been stated (or at least alluded to) already, there is a big difference between manufacturing a number plate incorrectly by accident, and putting a number plate from one vehicle onto another deliberately.
Not if you are a Police Officer trying to identify a vehicle. The offence is identical out on the road.
Quote from: andy on May 01, 2014, 08:40:32 PM
Quote from: Stu on May 01, 2014, 08:19:12 PM
As has probably been stated (or at least alluded to) already, there is a big difference between manufacturing a number plate incorrectly by accident, and putting a number plate from one vehicle onto another deliberately.
Not if you are a Police Officer trying to identify a vehicle. The offence is identical out on the road.
Same offence but different punishment it's different to make a mistake than to wilfully perform an act.