I seem to recall someone asking before about bus cleaning jobs...
...vacancies being advertised for bus and depot cleaners at Acocks Green, Birmingham Central, Coventry, Pensnett, Perry Barr, Walsall and West Bromwich garages:
http://yournxjob.co.uk/others/
There seem to be a fair few vacancies, I wonder if they're expanding various functions at those garages
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
Quote from: andy on January 31, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
I remember a few weeks ago getting on a Coventry based Mercedes that must have been fresh out of the depot, reeking of disinfectant!
Quote from: ben710 on February 02, 2014, 05:36:02 PM
Quote from: andy on January 31, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
I remember a few weeks ago getting on a Coventry based Mercedes that must have been fresh out of the depot, reeking of disinfectant!
Could be worse. They could've mopped it off with a bucket of Diesely-Water! Happened to me on more then one occasion.
Quote from: andy on January 31, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
Cleanliness has improved. The condition of some buses was disgraceful during the Bowker era, and I recall people posting pictures on Facebook of mouldy burgers dumped on the back of some vehicles (yuk). Also you could tell when vehicles had not been touched by what days Metro "crap" papers had been left littering the floor.
Passengers value cleanliness. NXWM have responded. This should be welcomed.
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on February 03, 2014, 07:58:23 AM
Passengers value cleanliness. NXWM have responded. This should be welcomed.
I agree completely. I quote from the note at the bottom of my latest direct debit ticket letter:
"We are looking to invest in things our customers tell us matter. In a recent survey, customers told us that cleaning was a top priority, so in 2014 we will move more cleaners to town centres and terminus points to clean buses during the day and not just at night."
Although it seems from the recruitment notices on the NX Jobs website, they are keen to have more cleaners based at the garages also, this should speed up the process of cleaning the buses while they are in the depot.
I think it's great personally, a sign that NXWM listens to Customers and acts upon their concerns, hopefully more improvements to come.
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on February 03, 2014, 07:58:23 AM
Quote from: andy on January 31, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
Cleanliness has improved. The condition of some buses was disgraceful during the Bowker era, and I recall people posting pictures on Facebook of mouldy burgers dumped on the back of some vehicles (yuk). Also you could tell when vehicles had not been touched by what days Metro "crap" papers had been left littering the floor.
Passengers value cleanliness. NXWM have responded. This should be welcomed.
I certainly welcome it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it has improved atall yet.
Quote from: andy on February 04, 2014, 12:23:39 PM
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on February 03, 2014, 07:58:23 AM
Quote from: andy on January 31, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
Cleanliness has improved. The condition of some buses was disgraceful during the Bowker era, and I recall people posting pictures on Facebook of mouldy burgers dumped on the back of some vehicles (yuk). Also you could tell when vehicles had not been touched by what days Metro "crap" papers had been left littering the floor.
Passengers value cleanliness. NXWM have responded. This should be welcomed.
I certainly welcome it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it has improved atall yet.
But you just have a total dislike of National Express, similar to Bob's of Arriva. There has been a big improvement in the last couple of years, simple things like if a driver puts graffitti or litter on a VCR on his walk around check the engineers don't just write FFS they actually remove it is one change
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: andy on February 04, 2014, 12:23:39 PM
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on February 03, 2014, 07:58:23 AM
Quote from: andy on January 31, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
Cleanliness has improved. The condition of some buses was disgraceful during the Bowker era, and I recall people posting pictures on Facebook of mouldy burgers dumped on the back of some vehicles (yuk). Also you could tell when vehicles had not been touched by what days Metro "crap" papers had been left littering the floor.
Passengers value cleanliness. NXWM have responded. This should be welcomed.
I certainly welcome it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it has improved atall yet.
But you just have a total dislike of National Express, similar to Bob's of Arriva. There has been a big improvement in the last couple of years, simple things like if a driver puts graffitti or litter on a VCR on his walk around check the engineers don't just write FFS they actually remove it is one change
Presumably FFS means 'fit for service', and not the other meaning?
Quote from: Mike K on February 04, 2014, 01:17:15 PM
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: andy on February 04, 2014, 12:23:39 PM
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on February 03, 2014, 07:58:23 AM
Quote from: andy on January 31, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
Cleanliness has improved. The condition of some buses was disgraceful during the Bowker era, and I recall people posting pictures on Facebook of mouldy burgers dumped on the back of some vehicles (yuk). Also you could tell when vehicles had not been touched by what days Metro "crap" papers had been left littering the floor.
Passengers value cleanliness. NXWM have responded. This should be welcomed.
I certainly welcome it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it has improved atall yet.
But you just have a total dislike of National Express, similar to Bob's of Arriva. There has been a big improvement in the last couple of years, simple things like if a driver puts graffitti or litter on a VCR on his walk around check the engineers don't just write FFS they actually remove it is one change
Presumably FFS means 'fit for service', and not the other meaning?
Yes it does Mike :D
I applied for a cleaning job at PB last year but didn't get it! I've been considering applying for a driving job for a while, maybe I shall :)
Quote from: Tony on February 04, 2014, 12:58:03 PM
Quote from: andy on February 04, 2014, 12:23:39 PM
Quote from: Kevin_Brum12 on February 03, 2014, 07:58:23 AM
Quote from: andy on January 31, 2014, 08:57:30 PM
Maybe theyre actually going to start cleaning their buses?!
Cleanliness has improved. The condition of some buses was disgraceful during the Bowker era, and I recall people posting pictures on Facebook of mouldy burgers dumped on the back of some vehicles (yuk). Also you could tell when vehicles had not been touched by what days Metro "crap" papers had been left littering the floor.
Passengers value cleanliness. NXWM have responded. This should be welcomed.
I certainly welcome it, but I wouldn't go so far as to say it has improved atall yet.
But you just have a total dislike of National Express, similar to Bob's of Arriva. There has been a big improvement in the last couple of years, simple things like if a driver puts graffitti or litter on a VCR on his walk around check the engineers don't just write FFS they actually remove it is one change
Sorry Tony that just isn't true. I can certainly be very critical of National Express where I believe warranted and I say what I see. If you check my posts there are instances I have complimented them. Equally I have criticised Arriva and other operators.
I simply like balance. There are people on here who worship National Express like some blind cult and are completely oblivious to their failings.
As regards cleanliness, maybe it is because my prinicipal use of their services is the 65 and 11, generally allocated PB's and AG's most unkept and disgusting buses.
Who makes the buses filthy yes the passengers dumping all there rubbish everywhere
Quote from: karl724223 on February 05, 2014, 12:17:14 PM
Who makes the buses filthy yes the passengers dumping all there rubbish everywhere
Who pays to keep the buses running on the street yes the passengers
Quote from: Dylan4579 on February 05, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on February 05, 2014, 12:17:14 PM
Who makes the buses filthy yes the passengers dumping all there rubbish everywhere
Who pays to keep the buses running on the street yes the passengers
So paying a moderate charge to catch a bus gives people the right to abuse it and litter it?
Quote from: richie on February 05, 2014, 05:12:34 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on February 05, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on February 05, 2014, 12:17:14 PM
Who makes the buses filthy yes the passengers dumping all there rubbish everywhere
Who pays to keep the buses running on the street yes the passengers
So paying a moderate charge to catch a bus gives people the right to abuse it and litter it?
I don't mean that, but other passengers that don't litter should have clean buses
You speak up and tell the next passenger you see dumping rubbish on a bus if your brave enough if your lucky you might just get a fxxk off mind your own business
Quote from: Dylan4579 on February 05, 2014, 05:28:25 PM
Quote from: richie on February 05, 2014, 05:12:34 PM
Quote from: Dylan4579 on February 05, 2014, 03:59:12 PM
Quote from: karl724223 on February 05, 2014, 12:17:14 PM
Who makes the buses filthy yes the passengers dumping all there rubbish everywhere
Who pays to keep the buses running on the street yes the passengers
So paying a moderate charge to catch a bus gives people the right to abuse it and litter it?
I don't mean that, but other passengers that don't litter should have clean buses
I couldn't agree with you more! However all buses depart the depot free from litter every morning. Imagine if there were staff at all of the terminus to clean each journey. Reliability would be reduced as a result. Also a company arn't going to employ staff to clean buses on route without passing the cost onto the consumer.
Quote from: richie on February 05, 2014, 09:55:19 PM
I couldn't agree with you more! However all buses depart the depot free from litter every morning. Imagine if there were staff at all of the terminus to clean each journey. Reliability would be reduced as a result. Also a company arn't going to employ staff to clean buses on route without passing the cost onto the consumer.
Forget Gold bus corridors, you've just created platinum ;)
Anyway,
Got a NX Job Interview soon enough
Wonder what happens at it lol? :D
Quote from: vinh1000 on February 09, 2014, 06:25:42 PM
Anyway,
Got a NX Job Interview soon enough
Wonder what happens at it lol? :D
What you applied for, out of interest? Feel free to PM me if you don't want it broadcast.
I want a job at TWM as
@Tony knows, any one know of any cleaning jobs going at Walsall?
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 23, 2016, 12:18:18 AM
I want a job at TWM as @Tony knows, any one know of any cleaning jobs going at Walsall?
Good luck, 'Travel West Midlands' doesn't exist.
National Express West Midlands, TWM same thing.
Theres so many jobs going due to the way management are getting rid of staff left right and centre!! Seems to be that the current pay deal hadnt gone the way they want so top rate drivers are having the slightest thing pinned on them and .... Bye bye!!!
Dont dare have a day off sick else you'll be in the office having 6 months sickness and absence monitoring put on your file.
This company was great to work for 5 years ago. Now I feel ashamed to work for them to be honest and are looking for a way out even if it means I end up on minimum wage!!
WB, yeah I agree with what your saying , many of us are just brassed off to put it politely , there's quite a few of us doing HGV licenses as I type , we are prepared to take a cut in our hourly pay , but at least if you work late nights or week ends there's some sort bonus , there's huge shortage of truckers in this country the youngsters aren't interested cause of the financial outlay involved 2k is about the average cost. Nx will lose a lot of experienced drivers with current climate of feeling here at west brom can't speak for other garages. I,seen the adverts for bus drivers wanted £353 a week that's about £100 less what a top rate driver gets , it's quite simple economics management don't want to many drivers on top rate we all know it's about the bottom line they need to maintain the double digit profit I think NX leaders in that manner.
The daft thing is as a share holder I take my hat off to-dean finch and his team for how they have turned the company around those dividend payments all very nice.
But as an employee it's the pits , one could say double edged sword.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 23, 2016, 12:18:18 AM
I want a job at TWM as @Tony knows, any one know of any cleaning jobs going at Walsall?
As I have told you several times all NX jobs are listed on this page
http://yournxjob.co.uk/
If it isn't listed there, there isn't a job available.
Of course annoying senior managers (not referring to myself who isn't a senior manager), is not a good idea if you may want employment in the future
Quote from: 2900 on February 23, 2016, 10:48:06 AM
WB, yeah I agree with what your saying , many of us are just brassed off to put it politely , there's quite a few of us doing HGV licenses as I type , we are prepared to take a cut in our hourly pay , but at least if you work late nights or week ends there's some sort bonus , there's huge shortage of truckers in this country the youngsters aren't interested cause of the financial outlay involved 2k is about the average cost. Nx will lose a lot of experienced drivers with current climate of feeling here at west brom can't speak for other garages. I,seen the adverts for bus drivers wanted £353 a week that's about £100 less what a top rate driver gets , it's quite simple economics management don't want to many drivers on top rate we all know it's about the bottom line they need to maintain the double digit profit I think NX leaders in that manner.
The daft thing is as a share holder I take my hat off to-dean finch and his team for how they have turned the company around those dividend payments all very nice.
But as an employee it's the pits , one could say double edged sword.
I agree too. With the pay deal, a lot of drivers are forgetting the holidays too.
Old time drivers get a lot more holidays than I do.
Why couldnt the company give just 1 extra days holiday to drivers who have reached 10 years service or even 15 years. It would reward drivers for staying loyal and there wouldnt be a huge ammount of drivers to give these extra hols to.
Quote from: Tony on February 23, 2016, 11:12:58 AM
As I have told you several times all NX jobs are listed on this page
http://yournxjob.co.uk/
If it isn't listed there, there isn't a job available.
Of course annoying senior managers (not referring to myself who isn't a senior manager), is not a good idea if you may want employment in the future
Thanks
@Tony like the last paragraph.
B,ham central driver , in the current climate under this regime loyalty don't mean jack, a driver at our place was dismissed after 30 years of service I won't go into details , but back in the day you would have gotten a final warning and chance to redeem yourself in away. Some of stuff I did back in the day and given a final warning for just wouldn't wash with current regime no way.
Judging by the comments, it seems to be the norm for all big businesses, sadly it's usually the upper powers who make such decisions at the expense of those who do the hard work and actually bring them money. Here at Amazon I'd say it's worse in many respects.
Having sid that, I've applied for many non driver roles and I've had a few interviews. Sadly none have resulted in me working there although I find the application/ interview process quite good and they also offer feedback on how you can improve. My last 2 interviews at AG/ BC, I managed toi get to the shortlist and final 2 respectively ! I've put some interest into the engineering roles NX offers although should I pursue them ?!
Quote from: GeminiFan1991 on February 23, 2016, 06:43:53 PM
Judging by the comments, it seems to be the norm for all big businesses, sadly it's usually the upper powers who make such decisions at the expense of those who do the hard work and actually bring them money. Here at Amazon I'd say it's worse in many respects.
Having sid that, I've applied for many non driver roles and I've had a few interviews. Sadly none have resulted in me working there although I find the application/ interview process quite good and they also offer feedback on how you can improve. My last 2 interviews at AG/ BC, I managed toi get to the shortlist and final 2 respectively ! I've put some interest into the engineering roles NX offers although should I pursue them ?!
I would make my own bus business before joining nx
Making your own bus company is not as easy as it sounds, I have researched doing this before as its not as easy as it sounds, fuel costs are the big issues now days
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 23, 2016, 06:57:52 PM
Making your own bus company is not as easy as it sounds, I have researched doing this before as its not as easy as it sounds, fuel costs are the big issues now days
Fuel costs are the big issue of the moment?! Words fail me...
Do you know how high costs of fuel is at the moment? you wont be laughing if you were the one doing the budget for these companies and will see the figure for fuel, It might be funny for you mate, but it is not for smaller companies. Fuel is a massive topic in the bus industry,
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 23, 2016, 07:24:22 PM
Do you know how high costs of fuel is at the moment? you wont be laughing if you were the one doing the budget for these companies and will see the figure for fuel, It might be funny for you mate, but it is not for smaller companies. Fuel is a massive topic in the bus industry,
Have a look at the price graph for crude oil, see which direction it is going in then come back to us......
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 23, 2016, 07:24:22 PM
Do you know how high costs of fuel is at the moment? you wont be laughing if you were the one doing the budget for these companies and will see the figure for fuel, It might be funny for you mate, but it is not for smaller companies. Fuel is a massive topic in the bus industry,
What £1 per litre. Cheapest its been for over a decade!
Then why in London and they all moaning about cost of fuel and switching to Hybrids etc and its not just about emissions either,
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 23, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
Then why in London and they all moaning about cost of fuel and switching to Hybrids etc and its not just about emissions either,
No they're not, did you note how when most companies put up fares they stated that fuel costs are a lower and lower percentage of actual costs faced by the industry.
Quote from: Tomf1993 on February 23, 2016, 07:38:23 PM
Then why in London and they all moaning about cost of fuel and switching to Hybrids etc and its not just about emissions either,
Hybrids are more about lower CO2 emissions but aren't necessarily always more fuel efficient.
so what is the new deal and was it accept