Just been thinking, which NXWM route is the worst for vandalism, antisocial behaviour etc?
I know there's been a few big improvements over the past couple of years, with CCTV, Operation Safer Travel etc...
The soho road routes (74,75,79)
I would also say soho rd services
I would have thought the 8A/8C must also be up there, as that runs through some rougher Inner City areas
The 79 Doesn't even go down the Soho Road anymore and its still a bad route. (Another new branding idea "We DON'T Go To Birmingham Anymore!" ;D)
The 3 worst in Wolves are 59 79 529.
Worst one I've been on I think is the Inner Circle 8 Particulally scary round Sparbrook :o
If the Soho Road services were single deck, they wouldn't be a problem. The 6 is now single deck and it is fine. It was on the same level as the Soho Road services before, with all the Tridents smelling of weed.
The Soho road used to be single deck between 1998-2002 before the tridents for the 79, When west brom ran the routes the 74 used branded mercs, the 79 used branded mercs and the 78 used to see b6le's when it went to Wednesbury. There was also no or very few 74E journeys but the single decks used to cope although were rammed most of the times and never had cctv installed well most of them didnt
The Soho road routes are awful, I agree.
I also feel extremely unsafe on the 49/A through Hawkesley/Pool Farm/Druids Heath, even in the middle of the day.
2, 3, 74, 75, 80, 82, 87
What are the 14 and 17 like?
Quote from: 4504 on May 09, 2012, 05:58:25 PM
2, 3, 74, 75, 80, 82, 87
What are the 14 and 17 like?
Why does everyone think the 74/75 are the worst for vandalism?
West Bromwich buses are nowhere near as badly damaged as some Birmingham garage buses
Quote from: lgr on May 09, 2012, 05:55:02 PM
The Soho road routes are awful, I agree.
I also feel extremely unsafe on the 49/A through Hawkesley/Pool Farm/Druids Heath, even in the middle of the day.
Never had a problem on the 49, 82 or 87...
74/75 Don't look brilliant though at times.
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Why does everyone think the 74/75 are the worst for vandalism?
West Bromwich buses are nowhere near as badly damaged as some Birmingham garage buses
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In my post relating to the 79 59 529 I was referring to ticket fraud, smoking and use of substances aswell as a basic lack of common sense and consideration for others passengers some of the users of these routes lack.
As for my trip on the 8 that was just like 'don't look at anyone, look out the window' type scenario
Quote from: nx4737 on May 09, 2012, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: lgr on May 09, 2012, 05:55:02 PM
The Soho road routes are awful, I agree.
I also feel extremely unsafe on the 49/A through Hawkesley/Pool Farm/Druids Heath, even in the middle of the day.
Never had a problem on the 49, 82 or 87...
74/75 Don't look brilliant though at times.
hmmmmm. I think that is on more impression of the areas than the actual routes. The one advantage the 74/75 have is the buses are regularly full so idiots don't get the top deck to themselves as much as some other routes.
My job involves going out and catching fare dodgers/anti-social behaviour so I tend to see, or here from others in my job which are the worst areas
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2012, 07:14:51 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on May 09, 2012, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: lgr on May 09, 2012, 05:55:02 PM
The Soho road routes are awful, I agree.
I also feel extremely unsafe on the 49/A through Hawkesley/Pool Farm/Druids Heath, even in the middle of the day.
Never had a problem on the 49, 82 or 87...
74/75 Don't look brilliant though at times.
hmmmmm. I think that is on more impression of the areas than the actual routes. The one advantage the 74/75 have is the buses are regularly full so idiots don't get the top deck to themselves as much as some other routes.
My job involves going out and catching fare dodgers/anti-social behaviour so I tend to see, or here from others in my job which are the worst areas
The 6 has seen a lot fare dodging of recent times. Maybe something to do with being single deck. The 11 still has a lot of fare dodging however, especially since a lot of them park up in Acocks Green village whilst the driver visits the public toilet and switches the bus off full of passengers.
I'd Say 8A/8C/87/82/soho road services 8)
The 11 is quite a bad route for anti-social behaviour.
Quote from: Lukeee on May 09, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
The 11 is quite a bad route for anti-social behaviour.
I was gonna say that but thought it probally wouldnt be, but it does run through handsworth & places like that
If we go by window etching then the routes served by BC, AG and YW seem the worst by far. With regard to the 11, I got fed up seeing all the buses in the new livery but totally spoiled by the idiots who had damaged the windows.
Quote from: D10 on May 09, 2012, 07:44:32 PM
If we go by window etching then the routes served by BC, AG and YW seem the worst by far. With regard to the 11, I got fed up seeing all the buses in the new livery but totally spoiled by the idiots who had damaged the windows.
Theres quite a bit of window etching on PB routes aswell
Maybe they are all just 'the worst route' ?
Can anyone say 'I know a good route, there's never any trouble and the buses are always clean and smell as fresh as a newly Lennored Pillow case'?
Maybee in Cornwall or Devon!!
In reply to a good route, like Devon, the 157 from Sidmouth to Exmouth. The bus was a single deck (http://travel66.com/page_3437.html) and http://www.flickr.com/photos/swbuspics/6949504957/ and the route was excellent. Interesting and even a reversing section in a small farm dead end road. No graffiti or etching at all on any of the buses, even on the buses in Exeter. Oxford is another good example with smart vandalism free buses similar to Norfolk green.
As a regular 8 user between Saltley and the Jewellery Quarter, it is really not that bad! One of the better routes actually!
The 14 is one of the worst for drug smoking.
Just because some of the areas are rough, doesnt mean that the bus routes are all bad. The 74/75 may be bad for time keeping and traffic congestion at times but from experience, the passengers are a lot better than other routes in Birmingham.
Quote from: 4006 on May 09, 2012, 07:54:13 PM
Maybe they are all just 'the worst route' ?
Can anyone say 'I know a good route, there's never any trouble and the buses are always clean and smell as fresh as a newly Lennored Pillow case'?
Maybee in Cornwall or Devon!!
651/654
Quote from: Gareth on May 09, 2012, 08:03:09 PM
As a regular 8 user between Saltley and the Jewellery Quarter, it is really not that bad! One of the better routes actually!
The 14 is one of the worst for drug smoking.
Just because some of the areas are rough, doesnt mean that the bus routes are all bad. The 74/75 may be bad for time keeping and traffic congestion at times but from experience, the passengers are a lot better than other routes in Birmingham.
Exactly! I sometimes use it to get from Highgate to Sparkbrook, yes a very short distance but sometimes it's raining like mad, especially today! Then get the 37 from Aldi, or the 31 from the stop after, because for a ridiculous reason, the 2/3/37 stop far behind the next stop which is after the lights and is very annoying to get to Acocks Green. I might get to Centro on this!
Quote from: Michael on May 09, 2012, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: Gareth on May 09, 2012, 08:03:09 PM
As a regular 8 user between Saltley and the Jewellery Quarter, it is really not that bad! One of the better routes actually!
The 14 is one of the worst for drug smoking.
Just because some of the areas are rough, doesnt mean that the bus routes are all bad. The 74/75 may be bad for time keeping and traffic congestion at times but from experience, the passengers are a lot better than other routes in Birmingham.
Exactly! I sometimes use it to get from Highgate to Sparkbrook, yes a very short distance but sometimes it's raining like mad, especially today! Then get the 37 from Aldi, or the 31 from the stop after, because for a ridiculous reason, the 2/3/37 stop far behind the next stop which is after the lights and is very annoying to get to Acocks Green. I might get to Centro on this!
Shoudnt you go to the Garage about it as I think somwere Tony said "Centro only pay for routes if there tendered" its the garages choice about routes
Quote from: NathanJC on May 09, 2012, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 09, 2012, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: Gareth on May 09, 2012, 08:03:09 PM
As a regular 8 user between Saltley and the Jewellery Quarter, it is really not that bad! One of the better routes actually!
The 14 is one of the worst for drug smoking.
Just because some of the areas are rough, doesnt mean that the bus routes are all bad. The 74/75 may be bad for time keeping and traffic congestion at times but from experience, the passengers are a lot better than other routes in Birmingham.
Exactly! I sometimes use it to get from Highgate to Sparkbrook, yes a very short distance but sometimes it's raining like mad, especially today! Then get the 37 from Aldi, or the 31 from the stop after, because for a ridiculous reason, the 2/3/37 stop far behind the next stop which is after the lights and is very annoying to get to Acocks Green. I might get to Centro on this!
Shoudnt you go to the Garage about it as I think somwere Tony said "Centro only pay for routes if there tendered" its the garages choice about routes
It's not re-routing. It's to do with the bus stop in particular! I will get on to both though, in that case.
Quote from: Michael on May 09, 2012, 08:26:58 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on May 09, 2012, 08:23:03 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 09, 2012, 08:15:17 PM
Quote from: Gareth on May 09, 2012, 08:03:09 PM
As a regular 8 user between Saltley and the Jewellery Quarter, it is really not that bad! One of the better routes actually!
The 14 is one of the worst for drug smoking.
Just because some of the areas are rough, doesnt mean that the bus routes are all bad. The 74/75 may be bad for time keeping and traffic congestion at times but from experience, the passengers are a lot better than other routes in Birmingham.
Exactly! I sometimes use it to get from Highgate to Sparkbrook, yes a very short distance but sometimes it's raining like mad, especially today! Then get the 37 from Aldi, or the 31 from the stop after, because for a ridiculous reason, the 2/3/37 stop far behind the next stop which is after the lights and is very annoying to get to Acocks Green. I might get to Centro on this!
Shoudnt you go to the Garage about it as I think somwere Tony said "Centro only pay for routes if there tendered" its the garages choice about routes
It's not re-routing. It's to do with the bus stop in particular! I will get on to both though, in that case.
I carnt comment no further as I dont live up there
Centro manage the bus stops and bus stations and bus priorities etc... for every single route whether they provide a full subsidy or none whatsoever. So any complaints about bus stops, condition, location etc... need to go to Centro and its subsidary Network West Midlands which in my experience is so very very easily confused with National Express West Midlands, with the acronyms being NWM and NXWM which means that either fidn themselves fielding compaints that should have been addressed to the other party and vice versa. A friend on Twitter the other week got a very catty remark from NWM when he complained to them about a NXWM route!
I know what you mean about the bus stops at Sparkbrook, by the Aldi. It would make sense to have the 31, 31A and 37 all use the same stop, as they all go to Acocks Green, rather than have separate stops either side of Walford Road.
Quote from: Stu on May 09, 2012, 09:01:12 PM
I know what you mean about the bus stops at Sparkbrook, by the Aldi. It would make sense to have the 31, 31A and 37 all use the same stop, as they all go to Acocks Green, rather than have separate stops either side of Walford Road.
Yeah, very ridiculous. The 2/3 obviously I understand, well the 3 anyway, and the 2 is a similar route so that's fine. The 37 though is pointless. They may as well stop it on the stop after Walford Road, or let the 31/31A stop with the 37 as well. It'd make things so much easier! So now, if I see a President go past (side view as I'm walking down Highgate Road) I assume it's a 31, because the 5 cannot be President operated, and it's more likely a 31 than 37, so I catch the 37! If I see a million Scanias go past (6/37), I'll go to the 31 stop.
I used to live on the 82 route, I live by blue gates, and from my experience, the 87 isn't great for anti-social behaviour
Quote from: nx4737 on May 09, 2012, 06:49:40 PM
Quote from: lgr on May 09, 2012, 05:55:02 PM
The Soho road routes are awful, I agree.
I also feel extremely unsafe on the 49/A through Hawkesley/Pool Farm/Druids Heath, even in the middle of the day.
Never had a problem on the 49, 82 or 87...
74/75 Don't look brilliant though at times.
Im not suprised no one has said the 51 or X51 thats probably due to the inspectors and police always pulling the buses or checking tickets they were by the towers the other day and im sure they would find more fare invaders checking tickets in Hockley or other areas like that also why is there never inspectors at night checking tickets when most of the unsocialble people catch the buses and might aswell show the driver a reciept as they just walk on the bus knowing the day saver or pass is out of date but dont blame the driver saying anything as its not worth the bother. I would also think it would make the buses feel safer for both passengers and drivers knowing inspectors regualary check the buses on the evening services i know drivers have some kind of panic button which is not much use when under attack, a great addition would be an outside door for the driver like on route masters in london if the driver is under attack at least there is a way out rather than one way in one way out
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
Im not suprised no one has said the 51 or X51 thats probably due to the inspectors and police always pulling the buses or checking tickets they were by the towers the other day and im sure they would find more fare invaders checking tickets in Hockley or other areas like that also why is there never inspectors at night checking tickets when most of the unsocialble people catch the buses and might aswell show the driver a reciept as they just walk on the bus knowing the day saver or pass is out of date but dont blame the driver saying anything as its not worth the bother. I would also think it would make the buses feel safer for both passengers and drivers knowing inspectors regualary check the buses on the evening services i know drivers have some kind of panic button which is not much use when under attack, a great addition would be an outside door for the driver like on route masters in london if the driver is under attack at least there is a way out rather than one way in one way out
So I never work nights?
I've heard bad things about the 51, but I've never had any problems it.
I think the 120 can be bad at times
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
Im not suprised no one has said the 51 or X51 thats probably due to the inspectors and police always pulling the buses or checking tickets they were by the towers the other day and im sure they would find more fare invaders checking tickets in Hockley or other areas like that also why is there never inspectors at night checking tickets when most of the unsocialble people catch the buses and might aswell show the driver a reciept as they just walk on the bus knowing the day saver or pass is out of date but dont blame the driver saying anything as its not worth the bother. I would also think it would make the buses feel safer for both passengers and drivers knowing inspectors regualary check the buses on the evening services i know drivers have some kind of panic button which is not much use when under attack, a great addition would be an outside door for the driver like on route masters in london if the driver is under attack at least there is a way out rather than one way in one way out
I dont think i have seen inspectors at night on the services i have used in the evening, when i catch them i never see any NXWM personell around bus stations or bus stops just the drivers, i never said u didnt work nights also i never see the 'see something say something team' late in the evening.
There used to be a late night security squad in the late 80's / early 90's that were on call and were also around when the night services were operated by West Midlands Travel.
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2012, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
Im not suprised no one has said the 51 or X51 thats probably due to the inspectors and police always pulling the buses or checking tickets they were by the towers the other day and im sure they would find more fare invaders checking tickets in Hockley or other areas like that also why is there never inspectors at night checking tickets when most of the unsocialble people catch the buses and might aswell show the driver a reciept as they just walk on the bus knowing the day saver or pass is out of date but dont blame the driver saying anything as its not worth the bother. I would also think it would make the buses feel safer for both passengers and drivers knowing inspectors regualary check the buses on the evening services i know drivers have some kind of panic button which is not much use when under attack, a great addition would be an outside door for the driver like on route masters in london if the driver is under attack at least there is a way out rather than one way in one way out
So I never work nights?
Your lucky to see inspectors checking tickets/buses in the day never mind the nights of which I have never seen and I certainly would not envy the people who do this job. There is some right lousy scum out there and Employees get little back up or support and can often get themselves into trouble or put their jobs at risk by doing so. The Morale issue of bus travel in the Midlands on NXWM buses is pushed under the table. How is it that a pensioner pays for travel before 9.30 because their pass is not valid yet and they sit and watch some drunken lout stagger on 5 mins later obviously with a dodgy ticket and no-one says a word! Likewize paying customers watch drunken louts get on in groups at night without paying while they sit clutching onto their tickets worrying if they will get home safe. There are many rules and regulations these days but a bus seams to be the only place where you can do exaclty what you like....and get away with it!
Quote from: 4006 on May 10, 2012, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2012, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
Im not suprised no one has said the 51 or X51 thats probably due to the inspectors and police always pulling the buses or checking tickets they were by the towers the other day and im sure they would find more fare invaders checking tickets in Hockley or other areas like that also why is there never inspectors at night checking tickets when most of the unsocialble people catch the buses and might aswell show the driver a reciept as they just walk on the bus knowing the day saver or pass is out of date but dont blame the driver saying anything as its not worth the bother. I would also think it would make the buses feel safer for both passengers and drivers knowing inspectors regualary check the buses on the evening services i know drivers have some kind of panic button which is not much use when under attack, a great addition would be an outside door for the driver like on route masters in london if the driver is under attack at least there is a way out rather than one way in one way out
So I never work nights?
Your lucky to see inspectors checking tickets/buses in the day
Been out today training 7 more
Had 3 people arrested
Tony
Quote from: Tony on May 10, 2012, 09:53:02 PM
Quote from: 4006 on May 10, 2012, 08:39:23 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 09, 2012, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:30:07 PM
Im not suprised no one has said the 51 or X51 thats probably due to the inspectors and police always pulling the buses or checking tickets they were by the towers the other day and im sure they would find more fare invaders checking tickets in Hockley or other areas like that also why is there never inspectors at night checking tickets when most of the unsocialble people catch the buses and might aswell show the driver a reciept as they just walk on the bus knowing the day saver or pass is out of date but dont blame the driver saying anything as its not worth the bother. I would also think it would make the buses feel safer for both passengers and drivers knowing inspectors regualary check the buses on the evening services i know drivers have some kind of panic button which is not much use when under attack, a great addition would be an outside door for the driver like on route masters in london if the driver is under attack at least there is a way out rather than one way in one way out
So I never work nights?
Your lucky to see inspectors checking tickets/buses in the day
Been out today training 7 more
Had 3 people arrested
Tony
Thanks and keep up the good work :)
There a quite a few NX inpections on the 50 route lately and a few other 31/2/3/5/6 etc
I think you all need to take into account the size of the network and the amount of inspectors dedicated to revenue protection which has just increased by double i believe.
I've never had a problem with the 49, the 50 isn't usually too bad i think, i got on a 51 yesterday and there was a few noisy chavs at the back upstairs. The worst iv seen was 4082 on the 451 just before christmas, there was a gang of youths upstairs and they ripped off near enough every seat squab and that just added to the rest of the litter. It does feel like some people can just get away with anything on NXWM buses, like on WN Tridents, the same graffiti tag appears on at least one window, just does my nut in that they cant do more to solve the problem. If it was me, id check every bus every night for graffiti and remove it straight away, might be abit more costly but would make the buses look better. I also said on another topic that 1643 has had some graffiti on the it for at least 8 months
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:36:39 PM
I dont think i have seen inspectors at night on the services i have used in the evening, when i catch them i never see any NXWM personell around bus stations or bus stops just the drivers, i never said u didnt work nights also i never see the 'see something say something team' late in the evening.
I seen tickect checks taking place outside my work on sunday, infact 9 times out of 10 i see them is on a sunday.
Quote from: Lukeee on May 21, 2012, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:36:39 PM
I dont think i have seen inspectors at night on the services i have used in the evening, when i catch them i never see any NXWM personell around bus stations or bus stops just the drivers, i never said u didnt work nights also i never see the 'see something say something team' late in the evening.
I seen tickect checks taking place outside my work on sunday, infact 9 times out of 10 i see them is on a sunday.
Your Not in Dudley Zoo are you?
The stop outside was one place we did checks yesterday. The other was Sandpits on the 82/87
The 451 is quite bad, i remember being on a newly repainted b7 alx back in 2008/2009 and chavs were blatantly etching all the windows with a pound coin
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2012, 08:58:29 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on May 21, 2012, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:36:39 PM
I dont think i have seen inspectors at night on the services i have used in the evening, when i catch them i never see any NXWM personell around bus stations or bus stops just the drivers, i never said u didnt work nights also i never see the 'see something say something team' late in the evening.
I seen tickect checks taking place outside my work on sunday, infact 9 times out of 10 i see them is on a sunday.
Your Not in Dudley Zoo are you?
The stop outside was one place we did checks yesterday. The other was Sandpits on the 82/87
Olton Station is a hot spot for the inspectors. Seen quite a few there, and pulling so many college kids. One thing though, some people just get off at the stop with the inspectors and don't get caught? Bit ridiculous ain't it.
I got on 3601 and some kid left a box of chips at the back, and someone slashed the seat I was on, which is a same because they only got refurbished last year
Olton Station is a hot spot for the inspectors. Seen quite a few there, and pulling so many college kids. One thing though, some people just get off at the stop with the inspectors and don't get caught? Bit ridiculous ain't it.
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Quote from: BU07 LGO on May 22, 2012, 03:41:31 PM
The 451 is quite bad, i remember being on a newly repainted b7 alx back in 2008/2009 and chavs were blatantly etching all the windows with a pound coin
The whole ticketing system is old, outdated and open to fraud. Even the cash shoots I swear are the same ones they used in the Fleetlines! The system needs modernising...and quickly before the chavs take over! Daysavers/day returns are the most flouted of the lot! I heard a chap get on the other day and say "One of them £2.70 Daysaver...er....Return please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Quote from: Tony on May 21, 2012, 08:58:29 PM
Quote from: Lukeee on May 21, 2012, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:36:39 PM
I dont think i have seen inspectors at night on the services i have used in the evening, when i catch them i never see any NXWM personell around bus stations or bus stops just the drivers, i never said u didnt work nights also i never see the 'see something say something team' late in the evening.
I seen tickect checks taking place outside my work on sunday, infact 9 times out of 10 i see them is on a sunday.
Your Not in Dudley Zoo are you?
The stop outside was one place we did checks yesterday. The other was Sandpits on the 82/87
Nope down the Sandpits.
Quote from: Lukeee on May 21, 2012, 08:53:00 PM
Quote from: Ash on May 09, 2012, 10:36:39 PM
I dont think i have seen inspectors at night on the services i have used in the evening, when i catch them i never see any NXWM personell around bus stations or bus stops just the drivers, i never said u didnt work nights also i never see the 'see something say something team' late in the evening.
I seen tickect checks taking place outside my work on sunday, infact 9 times out of 10 i see them is on a sunday.
I didnt anything about a Sunday i was referring to the evenings
With regards to 51 it used to be bad for trouble and drug smokers but did improve during my time when inspectors and operation safer travel kicked in. Plain clothes police were on my bus once all I knew was when the drug smell started a couple of blokes came up to the cab showed police ID and at Fire Station stop a van was there and off were 3 arrested scumbags.
Quote from: Discodave on May 23, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
With regards to 51 it used to be bad for trouble and drug smokers but did improve during my time when inspectors and operation safer travel kicked in. Plain clothes police were on my bus once all I knew was when the drug smell started a couple of blokes came up to the cab showed police ID and at Fire Station stop a van was there and off were 3 arrested scumbags.
I remember them plain clothes officers on the 6 in it's Trident days, when it served Digbeth. Some lads were smoking at the back and the police man was on a mini laptop thing, and next thing a police car came in front of the bus and pulled it over and he got up and showed the badge and his colleagues came upstairs. The entrance they made was like something you'd see in Hollywood!
Quote from: Michael on May 23, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: Discodave on May 23, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
With regards to 51 it used to be bad for trouble and drug smokers but did improve during my time when inspectors and operation safer travel kicked in. Plain clothes police were on my bus once all I knew was when the drug smell started a couple of blokes came up to the cab showed police ID and at Fire Station stop a van was there and off were 3 arrested scumbags.
I remember them plain clothes officers on the 6 in it's Trident days, when it served Digbeth. Some lads were smoking at the back and the police man was on a mini laptop thing, and next thing a police car came in front of the bus and pulled it over and he got up and showed the badge and his colleagues came upstairs. The entrance they made was like something you'd see in Hollywood!
There should be more of this as catching people in the act with plain clothes police officers is a great idea, the worst failure has to be the fake police officer stickers put on the top decks of BC buses i remember 4264 having it when it tranferred to WB apart from half the body being missing
Quote from: Ash on May 23, 2012, 04:55:10 PM
Quote from: Michael on May 23, 2012, 04:48:27 PM
Quote from: Discodave on May 23, 2012, 11:08:14 AM
With regards to 51 it used to be bad for trouble and drug smokers but did improve during my time when inspectors and operation safer travel kicked in. Plain clothes police were on my bus once all I knew was when the drug smell started a couple of blokes came up to the cab showed police ID and at Fire Station stop a van was there and off were 3 arrested scumbags.
I remember them plain clothes officers on the 6 in it's Trident days, when it served Digbeth. Some lads were smoking at the back and the police man was on a mini laptop thing, and next thing a police car came in front of the bus and pulled it over and he got up and showed the badge and his colleagues came upstairs. The entrance they made was like something you'd see in Hollywood!
There should be more of this as catching people in the act with plain clothes police officers is a great idea, the worst failure has to be the fake police officer stickers put on the top decks of BC buses i remeber 4264 having it when it tranferred to WB apart from half the body being missing
Haha yeah. Someone graffitied on the window to show a massive moustache and beard on the officer with a tattoo saying 'PIG' once. Hilarious.