Originally Posted by centrebus employee statement
Centrebus Holdings Ltd is a jointly owned company with shareholding split
between Centrebus Ltd (60%) & Arriva plc (40%). Centrebus Holdings owns
the operations at Hinckley, operated under the Centrebus Holdings
O-license, & the operations in Yorkshire (Waterloo, Honley, Elland & Leeds)
operating under the Huddersfield Bus Company, Teamdeck & White Rose Bus Co
O-licenses.
Agreement has been reached for Arriva plc to purchase the shareholding in
Centrebus Holdings owned by Centrebus, thereby taking over 100% control of
all 5 depots & the 4 companies & O-licenses owned by Centrebus Holdings as
going concerns. Hinckley depot is expected to return to the direct control
of Arriva Midlands and all routes, licenses & vehicles based at Hinckley
will transfer as such. The Yorkshire operations are expected to remain as
a separate stand-alone business, managed and operated separately from
Arriva Yorkshire under a different name and probably under a different
livery.
This deal will not affect any other Centrebus business and has no bearing
on the 100% owned Centrebus Ltd operations (Leicester, Grantham, Melton,
Corby, Luton & Stevenage) or the High Peak Buses 50/50 joint venture with
Wellglade.
Quote from: Winston on September 05, 2013, 09:15:58 PM
Originally Posted by centrebus employee statement
Centrebus Holdings Ltd is a jointly owned company with shareholding split
between Centrebus Ltd (60%) & Arriva plc (40%). Centrebus Holdings owns
the operations at Hinckley, operated under the Centrebus Holdings
O-license, & the operations in Yorkshire (Waterloo, Honley, Elland & Leeds)
operating under the Huddersfield Bus Company, Teamdeck & White Rose Bus Co
O-licenses.
Agreement has been reached for Arriva plc to purchase the shareholding in
Centrebus Holdings owned by Centrebus, thereby taking over 100% control of
all 5 depots & the 4 companies & O-licenses owned by Centrebus Holdings as
going concerns. Hinckley depot is expected to return to the direct control
of Arriva Midlands and all routes, licenses & vehicles based at Hinckley
will transfer as such. The Yorkshire operations are expected to remain as
a separate stand-alone business, managed and operated separately from
Arriva Yorkshire under a different name and probably under a different
livery.
This deal will not affect any other Centrebus business and has no bearing
on the 100% owned Centrebus Ltd operations (Leicester, Grantham, Melton,
Corby, Luton & Stevenage) or the High Peak Buses 50/50 joint venture with
Wellglade.
Seemed a kind of inevitability but it does seem as if a lot of the julian peddle companies are being sold-theres this, d and g, midland What next? Tbh centrebus dont seem particularly up to date-their website seems like its from the 1990s and i imagine a lot of fleet renewal will be required. Ultimately, I reckon arriva will buy all of centrebus and run it like tgm.
Does anyone know what type of vehicles are allocated to Hinckley? Thanks
sconehead85
Quote from: sconehead85 on September 06, 2013, 01:15:39 AM
Does anyone know what type of vehicles are allocated to Hinckley? Thanks
sconehead85
Perhaps it might be best not to ask!
I believe this vehicle is still there so will have passed back into Arriva ownership
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/1149.html
From what I've seen Hinckley is an assorted mix of tat... few AlX100 type things and some ex Stagecoach London AlX200s...
Quote from: Tony on September 06, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: sconehead85 on September 06, 2013, 01:15:39 AM
Does anyone know what type of vehicles are allocated to Hinckley? Thanks
sconehead85
Perhaps it might be best not to ask!
I believe this vehicle is still there so will have passed back into Arriva ownership
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/1149.html
It may get sold again soon after though. Probably get replaced by a Dart.
Arriva's re-purchase of Hinckley is a surprise to me. I thought Centrebus had found it difficult to make a profit there, so I can't see Arriva with (probably) higher overheads doing better.
Or will Arriva run more services from there, such as the 158 Nuneaton - Leicester?
Quote from: Justin Tyme on September 06, 2013, 08:19:11 PM
Arriva's re-purchase of Hinckley is a surprise to me. I thought Centrebus had found it difficult to make a profit there, so I can't see Arriva with (probably) higher overheads doing better.
Or will Arriva run more services from there, such as the 158 Nuneaton - Leicester?
Arriva Had a 40% shareholding in 'Centrebus Holdings' as apposed to 'Centrebus' or 'Centrebus North' it looks like they wanted to get full control of the Centrebus Holdings operations in Yorkshire and got Hinckley as an added bonus as that also was part of 'Holdings'. Centrebus remains independant in Leicester and the home counties under the other parts
Thanks folks but its statistics I am after however manky or not the vehicles may be! Hopefully they will appear in the Arriva Midlands fleet list soon.
To part answer my own question I have this Hinckley allocation which dates from December 2012 which I wouldn't mind correcting.
Dennis Dart step 128/32/48/70/81/82
Volkswagen 207
Optare Solo 220-2/9-32, 350/69/72/84/6
Mercedes Vario 430/3/4/8/9/41/2/6/7/9/50
Dennis Dart SLF 517/8/70/91
Optare Excel 687, 715/6..
This list could still be out of date. It looks as if 2038 wont be the only step Dart with Arriva although it is possible they may be replaced by drafted/reinstated Dennis Darts. The Varios are split between R reg, but the last three are 54-plate.
The Centrebus part takeover will bring a large batch of Optare Solos to Arriva.
Any corrections feel free to make. This has been edited from the original post.
sconehead85
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva
Quote from: busman99 on September 08, 2013, 08:45:50 AM
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva
Took a quick trip over to Hinckley earlier on the 48, all I can say is the scrap man will be busy, step darts, breadvans etc... Genuinely surprised to see such **** still in use.
Quote from: nx4737 on September 09, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: busman99 on September 08, 2013, 08:45:50 AM
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva
Took a quick trip over to Hinckley earlier on the 48, all I can say is the scrap man will be busy, step darts, breadvans etc... Genuinely surprised to see such **** still in use.
Seriously? I might head over there to see them in action.
Quote from: Liverpool Street on September 09, 2013, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on September 09, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: busman99 on September 08, 2013, 08:45:50 AM
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva
Took a quick trip over to Hinckley earlier on the 48, all I can say is the scrap man will be busy, step darts, breadvans etc... Genuinely surprised to see such **** still in use.
Seriously? I might head over there to see them in action.
Seriously.
As for Hinckley bus station, that leaves a lot to be desired, cold, vandalized metal shelters with Arriva ad's from 2010 still displayed!
Whats that derelict boarded up building right next to the bus stops?
Quote from: sconehead85 on September 06, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
Thanks folks but its statistics I am after however manky or not the vehicles may be! Hopefully they will appear in the Arriva Midlands fleet list soon.
To part answer my own question I have this Hinckley allocation which dates from December 2012 which I wouldn't mind correcting.
Dennis Dart step 128/32/48/70/81/82
Volkswagen 207
Optare Solo 220-2/9-32, 350/69/72/84/6
Mercedes Vario 430/3/4/8/9/41/2/6/7/9/50
Dennis Dart SLF 517/8/70/91
Optare Excel 687, 715/6..
This list could still be out of date. It looks as if 2038 wont be the only step Dart with Arriva although it is possible they may be replaced by drafted/reinstated Dennis Darts. The Varios are split between R reg, but the last three are 54-plate.
The Centrebus part takeover will bring a large batch of Optare Solos to Arriva.
Any corrections feel free to make. This has been edited from the original post.
sconehead85
I have put the list of vehicles transferred to Arriva on the front page of the main site. This has been kindly supplied by Arriva so should be correct, although it was sent to me as a pdf of a handwritten note so could have an error in
Quote from: nx4737 on September 09, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: busman99 on September 08, 2013, 08:45:50 AM
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva
Took a quick trip over to Hinckley earlier on the 48, all I can say is the scrap man will be busy, step darts, breadvans etc... Genuinely surprised to see such **** still in use.
Good news for Bob, Cannock has gone up a position :D
Lol I could imagine the Varios being cascaded to cannock to upgrade some key routes :-P
Quote from: Tony on September 12, 2013, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: sconehead85 on September 06, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
Thanks folks but its statistics I am after however manky or not the vehicles may be! Hopefully they will appear in the Arriva Midlands fleet list soon.
To part answer my own question I have this Hinckley allocation which dates from December 2012 which I wouldn't mind correcting.
Dennis Dart step 128/32/48/70/81/82
Volkswagen 207
Optare Solo 220-2/9-32, 350/69/72/84/6
Mercedes Vario 430/3/4/8/9/41/2/6/7/9/50
Dennis Dart SLF 517/8/70/91
Optare Excel 687, 715/6..
This list could still be out of date. It looks as if 2038 wont be the only step Dart with Arriva although it is possible they may be replaced by drafted/reinstated Dennis Darts. The Varios are split between R reg, but the last three are 54-plate.
The Centrebus part takeover will bring a large batch of Optare Solos to Arriva.
Any corrections feel free to make. This has been edited from the original post.
sconehead85
I have put the list of vehicles transferred to Arriva on the front page of the main site. This has been kindly supplied by Arriva so should be correct, although it was sent to me as a pdf of a handwritten note so could have an error in
Tony Ive seen the list but the only doubt is 2200-2 as there is an existing 2201/2.
still in service AFAIK.
sconehead85
Quote from: andy on September 12, 2013, 11:10:47 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on September 09, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: busman99 on September 08, 2013, 08:45:50 AM
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva
Took a quick trip over to Hinckley earlier on the 48, all I can say is the scrap man will be busy, step darts, breadvans etc... Genuinely surprised to see such **** still in use.
Good news for Bob, Cannock has gone up a position :D
Please don't encourage him...
Anyone wants to see the three step entrance darts at Hinckley better be quick!
They are to be replaced by 2122, 2555 & 2557 from Wednesfield
Quote from: sconehead85 on September 13, 2013, 12:49:34 AM
Quote from: Tony on September 12, 2013, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: sconehead85 on September 06, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
Thanks folks but its statistics I am after however manky or not the vehicles may be! Hopefully they will appear in the Arriva Midlands fleet list soon.
To part answer my own question I have this Hinckley allocation which dates from December 2012 which I wouldn't mind correcting.
Dennis Dart step 128/32/48/70/81/82
Volkswagen 207
Optare Solo 220-2/9-32, 350/69/72/84/6
Mercedes Vario 430/3/4/8/9/41/2/6/7/9/50
Dennis Dart SLF 517/8/70/91
Optare Excel 687, 715/6..
This list could still be out of date. It looks as if 2038 wont be the only step Dart with Arriva although it is possible they may be replaced by drafted/reinstated Dennis Darts. The Varios are split between R reg, but the last three are 54-plate.
The Centrebus part takeover will bring a large batch of Optare Solos to Arriva.
Any corrections feel free to make. This has been edited from the original post.
sconehead85
I have put the list of vehicles transferred to Arriva on the front page of the main site. This has been kindly supplied by Arriva so should be correct, although it was sent to me as a pdf of a handwritten note so could have an error in
Tony Ive seen the list but the only doubt is 2200-2 as there is an existing 2201/2.
still in service AFAIK.
sconehead85
What vehicles do you have as 2201/2 then? P201/2HRY went for scrap over a year ago
Ex Wednesfield vehicles eh? Nice to see its gonna be a quality operation :-)
Quote from: bob on September 13, 2013, 09:06:01 PM
Ex Wednesfield vehicles eh? Nice to see its gonna be a quality operation :-)
And he's off!!
Quote from: andy on September 13, 2013, 10:47:47 PM
Quote from: bob on September 13, 2013, 09:06:01 PM
Ex Wednesfield vehicles eh? Nice to see its gonna be a quality operation :-)
And he's off!!
Nothing wrong with ex Midland stock :-)
I was surprised they got rid of the refurbed marshall darts, unless they were screwed mechanically? Some were S regand they were much nicer internally than some of the transferred in ones say s208 dto/s347 yog etc
Tony- My info was wrong!
sconehead85
Hinckley Bus fleet
2200 2201 2202 2392
6100 2555 2557 2560 2562 2567 2568 2569 2570
3149 3150
1905 1907 1908 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 1915 1916
The buses have left Hinckley are 1909 2000 2001 2002 3813 3814 3815