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West Midlands Buses in Discussion => National Express West Midlands => Topic started by: Nathan4775 on July 22, 2013, 09:10:50 PM

Title: Short Workings
Post by: Nathan4775 on July 22, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
can somebody tell me, whats the reason for buses running as short workings during the day i.e 22E or 63E ?. Thought short workings for only Evening an Sunday and a few last daytime journeys.


Also what does

99/35 mean
Title: Re: Short Workings
Post by: Sh4318 on July 22, 2013, 09:15:26 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 22, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
can somebody tell me, whats the reason for buses running as short workings during the day i.e 22E or 63E ?. Thought short workings for only Evening an Sunday and a few last daytime journeys.


Also what does

99/35 mean

Sometimes a portion of a route is busier than the route as a whole, I.e. 120, 997. I think the 22E has been briefly introduced due to the tunnel works going on in Birmingham
Title: Re: Short Workings
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 22, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
can somebody tell me, whats the reason for buses running as short workings during the day i.e 22E or 63E ?. Thought short workings for only Evening an Sunday and a few last daytime journeys.


Also what does

99/35 mean

Sometimes E journeys help fill in gaps on a route especially during the Queensway/St Chads tunnel closures which are causing heavy delays resulting in late running at gaps in service
Title: Re: Short Workings
Post by: Liverpool Street on July 22, 2013, 09:18:58 PM
The short workings are to cover for gaps in the service. Usually due to delays in the city.

99/35 sounds like a running board number, with 99 being the service and 35 being the board. However 99 running cards start with 99/51 onwards due to numbering system with the 98's on 98/01 etc respectively.
Title: Re: Short Workings
Post by: Stuharris 6360 on July 22, 2013, 09:21:49 PM
One of the old WMPTE timetable books said that E was for exception, ie: exception to the normal route.

Those were the days, miss buses running around Birmingham with SERVICE EXTRA on to!
Title: Re: Short Workings
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:22:16 PM
Plus as Shaun just said certain routes like 120 and 997 get busy on certain parts of the route so E journies help create a high frequency on the busiest part of the route
Title: Re: Short Workings
Post by: Nathan4775 on July 22, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
Thanks, Sorry for the 1001 questions.

But the only reason i asked was because I was in Kitwell today and the 14:40 journey turned up at 14:50 but went out as 22E so thought it was to make up the time or something. But I was wrong
Title: Re: Short Workings
Post by: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:35:25 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 22, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
Thanks, Sorry for the 1001 questions.

But the only reason i asked was because I was in Kitwell today and the 14:40 journey turned up at 14:50 but went out as 22E so thought it was to make up the time or something. But I was wrong

No its fine for you to ask questions :) Thats what the forum is here for
Title: Re: Short Workings
Post by: Tony on July 22, 2013, 10:03:22 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on July 22, 2013, 09:18:19 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on July 22, 2013, 09:10:50 PM
can somebody tell me, whats the reason for buses running as short workings during the day i.e 22E or 63E ?. Thought short workings for only Evening an Sunday and a few last daytime journeys.


Also what does

99/35 mean

Sometimes E journeys help fill in gaps on a route especially during the Queensway/St Chads tunnel closures which are causing heavy delays resulting in late running at gaps in service

Surprisingly there were very few delays caused by the tunnels today. Buses were taking about 7 minutes to travel along Great Charles Street Queensway which wasn't too bad and The Aston Expressway was the other hot spot, but everything else seemed to run to plan