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West Midlands Buses in Discussion => National Express West Midlands => Topic started by: 4006 on July 19, 2013, 03:24:45 AM

Poll
Question: Which bus would you preserve?
Option 1: Optare Excell L960 (Ex London) votes: 0
Option 2: Optare Excell L1070 votes: 1
Option 3: Optare Solo M850 votes: 0
Option 4: Mercedes O405N votes: 7
Option 5: Volvo B6LE votes: 7
Option 6: Mercedes O405GN votes: 4
Option 7: Dennis Dart SLF votes: 2
Option 8: Volvo B10L votes: 8
Option 9: Volvo B10B votes: 2
Option 10: Volvo B10L Alexander Ultra (Belfast) votes: 1
Title: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: 4006 on July 19, 2013, 03:24:45 AM
Following on from a post a member stated their interest in preserving a bus currently on fleet strength. I was just wondering what bus would be a fav presevation project for recently withdrawn/currently being withdrawn NX buses
Also I ask if in fact there is any info/interest in anyone preserving any of the Optare Excells recently withdrawn, the Volvo B6's most of which now withdrawn and in particular the Optare Spectra's. Is there any movement on anything been preserved?
Forgive me if I'm speaking out of turn but surely something must be going on with 4001, I'ts been off the road for ages but still at WN surely whatever is wrong with it does not take that long to fix?
I have a hunch 4001 has a destiny, but what? and with whom???
Personally given the time money & opportunity 1501 would be my option but also 7084/6 surely would be a rare & unique project and an L960 would be interesting as I don't think anyone will do one of them but imagine seen one in 20 years time people would say 'oh yes I remember them (just about  ;D)
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Liverpool Street on July 19, 2013, 08:58:05 AM
Volvo B6, we all have memories of those tiny wheels and out of proportion windows. Love to see one as new condition .. I really did enjoy those buses.
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: The Real 4778 on July 19, 2013, 09:24:20 AM
I quite fancy turning a Solo into a Hot Rod.

Failing that, I've got designs on 1743, which I would love to return to as-new-to-TWM plain white condition with its front wheel-trims gleaming.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44483738@N05/5236137040/
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: John on July 19, 2013, 09:25:49 AM
I do think that 4001 is a candidate for preservation, with it supposed to be the first low floor double decker in service in the country, but most of us know the story to that one!
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Ashley 4569 on July 19, 2013, 11:56:58 AM
Rumour has it that 4001 will be back on the road or so i was told a month or so ago
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: the trainbasher on July 19, 2013, 12:05:17 PM
I wouldn't mind either a Pointer Dart or R601YON (in TMH livery of course!)
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: richie on July 19, 2013, 01:23:18 PM
It has to be a 15XX merc as they are rare
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Ashley 4569 on July 19, 2013, 02:50:53 PM
Which 15xx merc do you have in mind richie?
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: richie on July 19, 2013, 02:53:26 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 19, 2013, 02:50:53 PM
Which 15xx merc do you have in mind richie?

I think 1523 being the first merc bodied bus
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Ashley 4569 on July 19, 2013, 02:58:46 PM
Not a bad merc is 1523, if were in that sort of area of the fleet id myself prefer 1525 but as your a PE driver you may know of any floors it may have
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: nitromatt1 on July 19, 2013, 04:30:23 PM
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on July 19, 2013, 02:58:46 PM
Not a bad merc is 1523, if were in that sort of area of the fleet id myself prefer 1525 but as your a PE driver you may know of any floors it may have

Being a single decker, it only has one floor
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: The Real 4778 on July 19, 2013, 04:31:17 PM
Damn, beat me to it...   ;D
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Rob H on July 19, 2013, 06:08:19 PM
I've voted for the Liberator because they're my 2nd favourite buses and if I could preserve any I would preserve 1427, 1429 & 1467 because they were my favourite's when they were at AG
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Stu on July 19, 2013, 06:57:25 PM
Quote from: Rob2832 on July 19, 2013, 06:08:19 PM
I've voted for the Liberator because they're my 2nd favourite buses and if I could preserve any I would preserve 1427, 1429 & 1467 because they were my favourite's when they were at AG

I do kind of miss 1429, with its unusual green and yellow interior trim. Still never found out the story behind that.
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Ashley 4569 on July 19, 2013, 07:23:08 PM
Faults then
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on July 19, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 19, 2013, 09:24:20 AM
I quite fancy turning a Solo into a Hot Rod.

Failing that, I've got designs on 1743, which I would love to return to as-new-to-TWM plain white condition with its front wheel-trims gleaming.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44483738@N05/5236137040/

Well you'll have to get ZF to look at its gearbox, when I was on it last week its downshifts were horrendous, almost bordering on un driveable as when breaking and changing down it would jolt terribly forwards shaking both passengers and fittings, it was rattiling like mad
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: nitromatt1 on July 19, 2013, 07:55:02 PM
Quote from: wilmotm (Matt Wilmot) on July 19, 2013, 07:29:57 PM
Quote from: The Real 4778 on July 19, 2013, 09:24:20 AM
I quite fancy turning a Solo into a Hot Rod.

Failing that, I've got designs on 1743, which I would love to return to as-new-to-TWM plain white condition with its front wheel-trims gleaming.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44483738@N05/5236137040/

Well you'll have to get ZF to look at its gearbox, when I was on it last week its downshifts were horrendous, almost bordering on un driveable as when breaking and changing down it would jolt terribly forwards shaking both passengers and fittings, it was rattiling like mad

1743 is probably my least favourite older Merc in the fleet
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: 4130Quinton on July 19, 2013, 08:51:40 PM
For me it would have one of the first series of the Mercs, in fact if I was rich (i'm not!) I would get a representative selection!! 1585 is the very first one I ever travelled on so would be a candidate. 1515 is the class leader so another candidate. 1518 a bus I love getting a spin in. 1523 the first all-Merc so another candidate. 1540 another great bus and the first in Coventry in Primeline "tartan quilt" livery. 1558 and 1610 two Coventry buses that I really like- no other reason needed! 1599 a bus that seems to almost follow me around on my visits as if its trying to tell me something!! There aren't any of them that I wouldn't be proud to preserve so wouldn't rule any good example out.
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Dylan4579 on July 19, 2013, 09:17:58 PM
nx mercs are some of the small amount purchased in this country. How rare would that make the bendibus version????
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Stevo on July 19, 2013, 10:02:45 PM
I dount if a low floor Merc will be preserved if no NXWM one is kept, so they'll just be forgotten. B6s were fairly common in many fleets, though the B10L is rare enough so it'd be good to see one of those kept too.
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: John on July 19, 2013, 10:06:08 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 19, 2013, 06:57:25 PM
I do kind of miss 1429, with its unusual green and yellow interior trim. Still never found out the story behind that.

I think that was an experiment moquette and yellow grab rails. Obviously not a sucess
Title: Re: Preservation opportunity??
Post by: Liverpool Street on July 19, 2013, 10:22:53 PM
Quote from: John on July 19, 2013, 10:06:08 PM
Quote from: Stu on July 19, 2013, 06:57:25 PM
I do kind of miss 1429, with its unusual green and yellow interior trim. Still never found out the story behind that.

I think that was an experiment moquette and yeloow grab rails. Obviously not a sucess

Wasnt it to do with blind people? They can see bright colours or something, high contrast?