I heard news ten vehicles were originally ordered to upgrade service 10 (Eastern Green - City Centre - Bell Green) however a last minute change will see six of the new vehicles being utilised on service 8/8A with spare vehicles propping up the PVR on services 13 and 21. 4831 and 4832 have been debranded to allow for improved vehicle utilisation. Service 10 will see refurbished vehicles with new branding shortly. Mercedes Benz Citaro Gs on service 4 will also see pink branding in a similar guise to that seen on service 4 in the Black Country and service 37 in Birmingham.
Matt Kings has confirm the new Double Decker on the 900 and 957 and 4 E400 on the 934/5/6!
Can be seen more information:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8917109917/
That will be nice new branding pink on the 4 with Citaro 0530G!
Quote from: 6013 on June 02, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
I heard news ten vehicles were originally ordered to upgrade service 10 (Eastern Green - City Centre - Bell Green) however a last minute change will see six of the new vehicles being utilised on service 8/8A with spare vehicles propping up the PVR on services 13 and 21. 4831 and 4832 have been debranded to allow for improved vehicle utilisation. Service 10 will see refurbished vehicles with new branding shortly. Mercedes Benz Citaro Gs on service 4 will also see pink branding in a similar guise to that seen on service 4 in the Black Country and service 37 in Birmingham.
Matt Kings has confirm the new Double Decker on the 900 and 957!
And of course Matt has personal chats with who decides that. You will notice I do not post what is going to happen any more, as advised by senior management perhaps Matt should also take some advice also as an employee
Can be seen more information:-
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8917109917/
Yet everytime I've said in the past the 900 should get new buses people just say what a daft idea it is!
Quote from: trident4370 on June 02, 2013, 10:13:06 PM
Yet everytime I've said in the past the 900 should get new buses people just say what a daft idea it is!
I think the Tridents suit the 900 but New buses at BC are needed. This will cascade Tridents onto other BC routes or to WN to replace Spectras.
You will probablt find these new E400 don't completley stick on the 900/57 and will probably appear on Other trident routes at BC like the 45/7, 60 etc
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 02, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
I think the Tridents suit the 900 but New buses at BC are needed. This will cascade Tridents onto other BC routes or to WN to replace Spectras.
You will probablt find these new E400 don't completley stick on the 900/57 and will probably appear on Other trident routes at BC like the 45/7, 60 etc
When these NEW Enviro's arrive at BC I've got a feeling either some 41** or 46** Tridents may move out
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 03, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 02, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
I think the Tridents suit the 900 but New buses at BC are needed. This will cascade Tridents onto other BC routes or to WN to replace Spectras.
You will probablt find these new E400 don't completley stick on the 900/57 and will probably appear on Other trident routes at BC like the 45/7, 60 etc
When these NEW Enviro's arrive at BC I've got a feeling either some 41** or 46** Tridents may move out
46** Series of Tranbus Trident could be transferred to Wolverhampton for replace the Spectares and Some Mercs can allow to Withdrawn.
New delivery can be later of this year.
Quote from: 6013 on June 03, 2013, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 03, 2013, 01:28:16 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 02, 2013, 10:21:33 PM
I think the Tridents suit the 900 but New buses at BC are needed. This will cascade Tridents onto other BC routes or to WN to replace Spectras.
You will probablt find these new E400 don't completley stick on the 900/57 and will probably appear on Other trident routes at BC like the 45/7, 60 etc
When these NEW Enviro's arrive at BC I've got a feeling either some 41** or 46** Tridents may move out
46** Series of Tranbus Trident could be transferred to Wolverhampton for replace the Spectares and Some Mercs can allow to Withdrawn
New delivery can be later of this year.
Wouldn't it be better to transfer them to AG to allow the 11A/C to have more modern buses once more?
Why transfer ZF tridents to a Voith tridents garage. WHy not send some to YW to displace some scanias onto 27 or presidents to AG/WB
Quote from: Peter123 on June 03, 2013, 08:34:49 PM
Why transfer ZF tridents to a Voith tridents garage. WHy not send some to YW to displace some scanias onto 27 or presidents to AG/WB
Which garage are you refering to as having voith Tridents?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 08:49:22 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on June 03, 2013, 08:34:49 PM
Why transfer ZF tridents to a Voith tridents garage. WHy not send some to YW to displace some scanias onto 27 or presidents to AG/WB
Which garage are you refering to as having voith Tridents?
AG
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 08:49:22 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on June 03, 2013, 08:34:49 PM
Why transfer ZF tridents to a Voith tridents garage. WHy not send some to YW to displace some scanias onto 27 or presidents to AG/WB
Which garage are you refering to as having voith Tridents?
I meant Wolverhampton actually tho could work for YW as well-dont know why the 03/54 batches would be moved out
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on June 03, 2013, 08:52:23 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 08:49:22 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on June 03, 2013, 08:34:49 PM
Why transfer ZF tridents to a Voith tridents garage. WHy not send some to YW to displace some scanias onto 27 or presidents to AG/WB
Which garage are you refering to as having voith Tridents?
AG
AG has never had a single trident allocated there
AG have no tridents and infact All but 1 trident (4135) are ZF. Don't forget WN have the majority of the same batch. WN have 4535-4609 and BC have 4610-34. So transfering them to WN will replace Spectras and will keep the same batch together.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:32:34 PM
AG have no tridents and infact All but 1 trident (4135) are ZF. Don't forget WN have the majority of the same batch. WN have 4535-4609 and BC have 4610-34. So transfering them to WN will replace Spectras and will keep the same batch together.
some of 4535-609 are voith
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:32:34 PM
AG have no tridents and infact All but 1 trident (4135) are ZF. Don't forget WN have the majority of the same batch. WN have 4535-4609 and BC have 4610-34. So transfering them to WN will replace Spectras and will keep the same batch together.
Where's the benefit in moving any 4610-34? BC would lose its next youngest double deckers some of which have been re-engined. It's the concentration of Y-reg Tridents that needs dispersing around other garages to reduce the average age at BC
That would also leave WN with a fleet of 75-100 53/04/54 reg Tridents,
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:32:34 PM
AG have no tridents and infact All but 1 trident (4135) are ZF. Don't forget WN have the majority of the same batch. WN have 4535-4609 and BC have 4610-34. So transfering them to WN will replace Spectras and will keep the same batch together.
some of 4535-609 are voith
Completley forgot (I usually never forget). Of course 4565-84 are voith.
Well i think Wolverhampton will get Cascaded tridents wheter its Y reg or 54 plate to replace Spectras at WN although i think Spectrad are staying till Early 2014 at the earliest.
Maybe PE could have some Y reg tridents to increase the amoumt of double decker sthere so routes like 120/140/241/246 etc can get some deckers which are needed.
Quote from: Winston on June 03, 2013, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:32:34 PM
AG have no tridents and infact All but 1 trident (4135) are ZF. Don't forget WN have the majority of the same batch. WN have 4535-4609 and BC have 4610-34. So transfering them to WN will replace Spectras and will keep the same batch together.
Where's the benefit in moving any 4610-34? BC would lose its next youngest double deckers some of which have been re-engined. It's the concentration of Y-reg Tridents that needs dispersing around other garages to reduce the average age at BC
That would also leave WN with a fleet of 75-100 53/04/54 reg Tridents,
Agreed. A third of BC's fleet is Y reg Tridents, many of which have seen better days. I would have thought it would be some of these that are displaced by new E400s.
Either way WN will probably have tridents cascaded from BC.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:58:58 PM
Well i think Wolverhampton will get Cascaded tridents wheter its Y reg or 54 plate to replace Spectras at WN although i think Spectrad are staying till Early 2014 at the earliest.
Maybe PE could have some Y reg tridents to increase the amoumt of double decker sthere so routes like 120/140/241/246 etc can get some deckers which are needed.
The Spectra's have got until end of 31/12/2016 at the very latest as they are non DDA complaint, it largely depends on how much it is costing to keep them on the road due to their reliability issues.
In the interim at least ridding the fleet of non DDA complaint single deckers is top priority and there is still scope to convert busy single decker routes back to double deck operation to increase capacity, all of the PE routes you mention fall in to that bracket.....
Well the routes i menton as you say do get busy especially at peak time so i think PE could take some tridents on.
Only time will tell and we will have to see what happens. We haven't even had a confirmation (you can't even garantee that Caption on Flickr is accurate) about where the E400 are going although there is a very great chance they are bound for BC and PB
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:54:53 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 03, 2013, 09:41:33 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 03, 2013, 09:32:34 PM
AG have no tridents and infact All but 1 trident (4135) are ZF. Don't forget WN have the majority of the same batch. WN have 4535-4609 and BC have 4610-34. So transfering them to WN will replace Spectras and will keep the same batch together.
some of 4535-609 are voith
Completley forgot (I usually never forget). Of course 4565-84 are voith.
Wow well done Nath ;D ;D
Do the Spectras really have 'reliability issues'? Or is it because the fleet of 20 (currently) is a lot smaller, so breakdowns are far more noticeable? I've seen far more Tridents on the back of Mansfield wagons than Spectras.
Quote from: Gareth on June 04, 2013, 12:32:18 AM
Do the Spectras really have 'reliability issues'? Or is it because the fleet of 20 (currently) is a lot smaller, so breakdowns are far more noticeable? I've seen far more Tridents on the back of Mansfield wagons than Spectras.
Rightly or wrongly, I was under the impression that they are prone to electrical problems rather than engine problems
Quote from: Gareth on June 04, 2013, 12:32:18 AM
Do the Spectras really have 'reliability issues'? Or is it because the fleet of 20 (currently) is a lot smaller, so breakdowns are far more noticeable? I've seen far more Tridents on the back of Mansfield wagons than Spectras.
If the proportion of vehicle breakdowns were independent of type, wouldn't you'd expect fewer Spectra breakdowns because there are fewer of them?
I guess 54 reg could stay in BC garage and Replace the Trident Y going to Yarlwood garage for replace President and President can going to NX Dundee.
Quote from: 6013 on June 04, 2013, 12:54:00 PM
I guess 54 reg could stay in BC garage and Replace the Trident Y going to Yarlwood garage for replace President and President can going to NX Dundee.
NX Dundee could probably take more Presidents to replace older non DDA single deckers, but so could some NXWM garages
Quote from: Gareth on June 04, 2013, 12:32:18 AM
Do the Spectras really have 'reliability issues'? Or is it because the fleet of 20 (currently) is a lot smaller, so breakdowns are far more noticeable? I've seen far more Tridents on the back of Mansfield wagons than Spectras.
Well you find more Spectra breakdowns on the 59 than tridents! To be honest they seem more reliable than people think although they take forever to pull out at red lights/Junctions.
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 04, 2013, 03:56:35 PM
Quote from: Gareth on June 04, 2013, 12:32:18 AM
Do the Spectras really have 'reliability issues'? Or is it because the fleet of 20 (currently) is a lot smaller, so breakdowns are far more noticeable? I've seen far more Tridents on the back of Mansfield wagons than Spectras.
Well you find more Spectra breakdowns on the 59 than tridents! To be honest they seem more reliable than people think although they take forever to pull out at red lights/Junctions.
I hope you mean green lights ;)
Oh yes Oops :-\ ;) Yes of course i mean green lights ;)
Which route Spectares are most breakdown???
Quote from: 6013 on June 04, 2013, 06:17:56 PM
Which route Spectares are most breakdown???
Erm the 59, as Spectras are more common on there than any other route?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 04, 2013, 06:26:55 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 04, 2013, 06:17:56 PM
Which route Spectares are most breakdown???
Erm the 59, as Spectras are more common on there than any other route?
79 is an unreliable route for spectra breakdowns aswell and maybe why more tridents are on the 79.
Yes the 59 has a lot of spectras but i haven't noticed a spectra breakdown on the 59 in ages
If spectra's are very unreliable there kept on 59 to keep them local where as the 79 is further afield
Well, 4422 is one of our Coventry fleet list are most breakdown! Today 4422 has breakdown on the 6A in Proffitt Avenue and 2157 back on the 6/A due to 4422 has out in service! 4422 is almost in garage rather than service.
I have seen 4422 breakdown on the 11/12 is four time, on the 36 (Former) is Three, on the 16/A is Twice time, and one time breakdown on the 32 in Ansty Rd!And 4422 has crashed in Swan Lane, Hillfields in March 2011 on the 36. 4422 is really worst than Spectares!
President and Mercs Mark 2 (T/V reg) could start to withdrawn in next year. When trident 'Y' Reg will start to Withdrawn?
Quote from: 6013 on June 05, 2013, 08:18:17 PM
President and Mercs Mark 2 (T/V reg) could start to withdrawn in next year. When trident 'Y' Reg will start to Withdrawn?
Are the Y-reg Tridents allowed into the Emissions zone?
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 05, 2013, 08:21:37 PM
Are the Y-reg Tridents allowed into the Emissions zone?
Yes, anything 1750 and above for singles, and anything 4125 and above is for doubles are allowed
Anything Y-plated or newer is at least Euro-3 emissions compliant.
4203-4224,4396-4399,4400-4424,4450-4454, and 6012-6021 maybe doesn't have complaint euro3 because they doesn't need service route in birmingham but BC take operate on the 900!
Those will have been euro 3 from new as standard
Is there any chance you could move this to a Birmingham-focused part of the forum?
Quote from: John on June 05, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 05, 2013, 08:21:37 PM
Are the Y-reg Tridents allowed into the Emissions zone?
Yes, anything 1750 and above for singles, and anything 4125 and above is for doubles are allowed
what about the 8** enviros, and the 3*** darts?
Quote from: dgss1 on June 05, 2013, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: John on June 05, 2013, 08:22:50 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 05, 2013, 08:21:37 PM
Are the Y-reg Tridents allowed into the Emissions zone?
Yes, anything 1750 and above for singles, and anything 4125 and above is for doubles are allowed
what about the 8** enviros, and the 3*** darts?
801-830 Yes, 3601-3614 No ;)
Two Bendibuses has complete receive a new branding and Colour code is light Pink! Next one will be 6019.
New branding 4 Coventry look better than 4 Wasall and 37!!
Typical. Just after I go to Coventry as well. Anyone got a picture?
Quote from: John on June 06, 2013, 04:14:30 PM
Typical. Just after I go to Coventry as well. Anyone got a picture?
There you go John, courtesy of Matt King:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8970762430/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8970774594/in/photostream/
Quote from: Winston on June 06, 2013, 05:43:51 PM
Quote from: John on June 06, 2013, 04:14:30 PM
Typical. Just after I go to Coventry as well. Anyone got a picture?
There you go John, courtesy of Matt King:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8970762430/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/coventrybuspics/8970774594/in/photostream/
Cool, thanks Winston, and Matt :) Thats good
I wonder if we might see 67 branding on the Perry Barr bendibuses ::)
I think 6020 and 6021 will high unlikely receive a new branding on 4! 6020 and 6021 got new logo on side and have already removed 'Travel Coventry'. But Service 4 pvr is 9. I would try take photo when Bendi branded 4 on the 21 in next week.
So Travel Coventry logo still on the 6012,6016,6017, and 6019 but they will soon removed then new branding put it again.
Quote from: 6013 on June 06, 2013, 03:52:12 PM
Two Bendibuses has complete receive a new branding and Colour code is light Pink! Next one will be 6019.
New branding 4 Coventry look better than 4 Wasall and 37!!
I beg to differ. Pastel pink / lilac and pale blue might look ok in a girls bedroom, but not on a bus.
Quote from: Mike K on June 06, 2013, 07:54:38 PMI beg to differ. Pastel pink / lilac and pale blue might look ok in a girls bedroom, but not on a bus.
I have to agree really: I think this branding is inferior to the others of late, and I definitely didn't see it coming!
It also looks quite disjointed as the 'smoothed rectangle' image seems only to have been applied to the front part of the vehicle.
6012,6013,6014, and 6015 has complete the new branding on the 4.
900 and 957 will upgrade the Enviro400 operate and will replace the Y Trident that could be transferred to Walsall garage for help to more replace some B6LE and B10L or transferred to Yarlwood garage for more replace the Presidents that Presidents could transferred to NX Dundee for replace any B10L with old livery start to withdrawn.
I believe 900 will get new branding similar does the 8/8A but colour code will be different. Did you know what is colour code will be of branding on 900 and 957??
Quote from: 6013 on June 13, 2013, 02:29:23 PM
I believe 900 will get new branding similar does the 8/8A but colour code will be different. Did you know what is colour code will be of branding on 900 and 957??
Sky Blue maybe?
I say that as Coventry can't really use sky blue on ske blue.
With regards to branding buses specifically for the 900, wasn't the 03 reg tridents branded for the 900 debranded and used on other services due to the high mileage they were clocking up and being driven at higher speeds for long periods of time. If this was the case won't the same happen with branding these new enviro 400's for the 900. It might be related to something about them getting around the airport being the reason they were debranded and used elsewhere but i thought the mileage was the reason.
Quote from: Ash on June 13, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
With regards to branding buses specifically for the 900, wasn't the 03 reg tridents branded for the 900 debranded and used on other services due to the high mileage they were clocking up and being driven at higher speeds for long periods of time. If this was the case won't the same happen with branding these new enviro 400's for the 900. It might be related to something about them getting around the airport being the reason they were debranded and used elsewhere but i thought the mileage was the reason.
I think that was the reason (mileage and wear & tear). These Tridents must be ok for the 900 as they are used on the 97 at the Airport (unless it enters a different way), although you never see a 44** Trident on the 900.
Quote from: John on June 13, 2013, 03:49:32 PM
Quote from: Ash on June 13, 2013, 03:41:42 PM
With regards to branding buses specifically for the 900, wasn't the 03 reg tridents branded for the 900 debranded and used on other services due to the high mileage they were clocking up and being driven at higher speeds for long periods of time. If this was the case won't the same happen with branding these new enviro 400's for the 900. It might be related to something about them getting around the airport being the reason they were debranded and used elsewhere but i thought the mileage was the reason.
I think that was the reason (mileage and wear & tear). These Tridents must be ok for the 900 as they are used on the 97 at the Airport (unless it enters a different way), although you never see a 44** Trident on the 900.
Those ones were removed off the 900 due to grounding on the speed humps around the airport & excessive damage
I'm sure I saw a 44** trident on the 900 a couple of months ago. It may have been 4431, it had NXWM vinyls
Quote from: Winston on June 13, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
Those ones were removed off the 900 due to grounding on the speed humps around the airport & excessive damage
Thanks Winston
Does the 97 have the same problem as it also uses 44** Tridents or does it go a different way around the airport?
Quote from: John on June 13, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 13, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
Those ones were removed off the 900 due to grounding on the speed humps around the airport & excessive damage
Thanks Winston
Does the 97 have the same problem as it also uses 44** Tridents or does it go a different way around the airport?
I rember a diffrent dicussion about this and I think that the answer is yes
Quote from: tank90 on June 13, 2013, 03:14:37 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 13, 2013, 02:29:23 PM
I believe 900 will get new branding similar does the 8/8A but colour code will be different. Did you know what is colour code will be of branding on 900 and 957??
Sky Blue maybe?
I say that as Coventry can't really use sky blue on ske blue.
The colour coded Coventry Network map has the 900 as a none too pleasant pale mint green. Not sure if this is an indicator as to what branding if any the 900 might have but it's been a match for the 20 and 21 so far (the 8/A and 9/A are pale blue on the map but that wouldn't work on a sky blue bus as John has previously pointed out). It was also posted on here, before plans changed, that the E400s originally planned for route 10 would carry a brownish bronze colour branding, again matching the network map.
Do the 900 and 957 inter work at all? If so any branding would presumably have to be generic Coventry Rd express or something along those lines.
Quote from: Mike K on June 13, 2013, 09:05:09 PM
Do the 900 and 957 inter work at all? If so any branding would presumably have to be generic Coventry Rd express or something along those lines.
Some do yes
Green would probably clash with the 33 branding. Same type of vehicle too.
Quote from: uniquicity on June 13, 2013, 09:10:33 PM
Green would probably clash with the 33 branding. Same type of vehicle too.
It would also look grim, much like the hideous hi-viz 33 branding.
6016 has completed the new branding and working on the 4! Next one is 6017! 6017 will have remove advert for Coventry College University and old logo Travel Coventry.
Soon, 6017-6019 will released the old logo 'Travel Coventry'. All Double Decker has gone 'Travel Coventry' but Only 4219 still old logo!!
Quote from: dgss1 on June 13, 2013, 07:38:06 PM
Quote from: John on June 13, 2013, 06:09:33 PM
Quote from: Winston on June 13, 2013, 04:40:35 PM
Those ones were removed off the 900 due to grounding on the speed humps around the airport & excessive damage
Thanks Winston
Does the 97 have the same problem as it also uses 44** Tridents or does it go a different way around the airport?
I rember a diffrent dicussion about this and I think that the answer is yes
Let me clear this up.
The 44XX's were removed off the 900 due to a driver speeding over the bumps thus ripping out the transfer box from under the bus.
However, as of about 2 months ago, the 44XX's have been modified so the transfer box is higher therefore clearing the speedbumps. If you crawl over the bumps then there isn't an issue anyway.
Have a look under a bus from the rear, even some 41's dont have that much clearance. Original 41 engines are better then Euro5 ones. Faster + Smoother imho.
6017 has completed the branding on 4! Next one will be 6018 and 6019 soon.
6016 branded 4 on the 21 at Yesterday and some people confusion catch them in Burges.
Last Monday, 6015 was first branded 4 on the 21!
6012-6018 has completed the new applied 4 branding! So Yesterday, Engineering has new logo for on the side 6012-6018 say"National Express Coventry" look better quality of color logo! Last awaiting for apply the new branding on 6019 only! 6020 and 6021 will not receive a new branding.
4895-4904 is at BC. There will some more E400 still ordering. BX13JWJ hasn't yet receive on fleetno but it will be over 4904 fleetno.
There will have over 15 E400 on the 900 and 957 but NOT 10!
Quote from: 6013 on June 20, 2013, 05:12:33 PM
4895-4904 is at BC. There will some more E400 still ordering. BX13JWJ hasn't yet receive on fleetno but it will be over 4904 fleetno.
There will have over 15 E400 on the 900 and 957 but NOT 10!
I thought the 19 ordered were intended for the 900/957 (PVR of 16), with 3 spares
Quote from: Shaun on June 20, 2013, 05:18:34 PM
I thought the 19 ordered were intended for the 900/957 (PVR of 16), with 3 spares
Yes they are for the 900/957
BC have 19 Trident would be transferred to somewhere garage before E400 enter service on the 900/957. Any aware of Trident 2 will transferred to Wolverhampton and Yarlwood garage?
Quote from: 6013 on June 20, 2013, 06:19:55 PM
BC have 19 Trident would be transferred to somewhere garage before E400 enter service on the 900/957. Any aware of Trident 2 will transferred to Wolverhampton and Yarlwood garage?
As some Tridents have just been transferred out of Wolverhampton, why would any be transferred in straight away?
Quote from: 6013 on June 20, 2013, 05:12:33 PM
4895-4904 is at BC. There will some more E400 still ordering. BX13JWJ hasn't yet receive on fleetno but it will be over 4904 fleetno.
There will have over 15 E400 on the 900 and 957 but NOT 10!
Dont take this the wrong way, but I find it difficult to understand what you're saying most the time.
Like I said before I reckon the Tridents we'll lose will be the later 43xx's. Possibly to YW as it'll fit in with their fleet they have now. Closes some number gaps also. Not that that's bothered NX before!
Anyway back on topic so will the E400's at BC displace tridents to YW to send presidents to dundee?
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Anyway back on topic so will the E400's at BC displace tridents to YW to send presidents to dundee?
That's the general feeling of what could happen. No doubt Tony will give his 2-cents and put us all in our place (joke) :o ;D
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Anyway back on topic so will the E400's at BC displace tridents to YW to send presidents to dundee?
That's the general feeling of what could happen. No doubt Tony will give his 2-cents and put us all in our place (joke) :o ;D
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I only post what's happened, not what's going to happen, but someone above is fairly close
Quote from: Tony on June 21, 2013, 07:41:48 AM
Quote from: The Rat on June 20, 2013, 10:37:38 PM
Anyway back on topic so will the E400's at BC displace tridents to YW to send presidents to dundee?
That's the general feeling of what could happen. No doubt Tony will give his 2-cents and put us all in our place (joke) :o ;D
I only post what's happened, not what's going to happen, but someone above is fairly close
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I hope it isn't me, I couldn't bear losing the 43's twice! We had them originally for the Bristol Road Jubilee Line, and then they went, now some are back just to be gone again lol.
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 21, 2013, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 09:23:45 AM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on June 20, 2013, 11:15:50 PM
Well my original theory has always been that his mother tongue may not be English.
Who? Tony? He's as English as the day is bright.
Yes I know, I was referring to 6013
Oh I see! Makes sense. (lol)
So my guess is close to what may happen tony?
Quote from: Trident 4609 on June 20, 2013, 10:27:56 PM
Just to clarify i think 6013 has either dyslexia or trouble writing things down (If you could state this 6013 that would be gteat then we would be able to understand better:))
Anyway back on topic so will the E400's at BC displace tridents to YW to send presidents to dundee?
STFU! Leave me alone! I am not good at english because Recently When i move to UK from Netherland about two years ago! I don't bother who doesn't make understand when i'm typical English sentence. In nearly the future, that i will get more improve english! I am NOT dyslexia!
6013 is my one favourite of BJ03ESU because that is very fastest speed than other buses and got new Engine in Last August!
Quote from: Tony on June 20, 2013, 09:22:55 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 20, 2013, 06:19:55 PM
BC have 19 Trident would be transferred to somewhere garage before E400 enter service on the 900/957. Any aware of Trident 2 will transferred to Wolverhampton and Yarlwood garage?
As some Tridents have just been transferred out of Wolverhampton, why would any be transferred in straight away?
Ok, I think it will be better transferred to Yarlwood garage for more replace a presidents ready to NX Dundee for any B10BLE/B10L still old livery to withdrawn and additional in fleetlist.
Been confirmed by another reliable source that BC will be losing 43'hundred Tridents to Yarlwood garage and YW's Presidents will be displaced to various garages, including but not limited to Dundee.
And that's the truth as of 21/6/13@1200
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
Been confirmed by another reliable source that BC will be losing 43'hundred Tridents to Yarlwood garage and YW's Presidents will be displaced to various garages, including but not limited to Dundee.
And that's the truth as of 21/6/13@1200
That's disappointing, I was hoping the batch of 65 Y reg ones would be broken up. 12 year old buses making up a third of the fleet of a garage that operates so many busy corridors is a bit crap really.
Quote from: Mike K on June 21, 2013, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
Been confirmed by another reliable source that BC will be losing 43'hundred Tridents to Yarlwood garage and YW's Presidents will be displaced to various garages, including but not limited to Dundee.
And that's the truth as of 21/6/13@1200
That's disappointing, I was hoping the batch of 65 Y reg ones would be broken up. 12 year old buses making up a third of the fleet of a garage that operates so many busy corridors is a bit crap really.
I know mate, but that leaves the following roads:
Bristol Road: Any Bag of Nails
Pershore Road: Any Garden Shed
Great Park: E200 & B7RLE
Chelmsley: 44xx Trident
Cranes Park/Cov: E400 & B7RLE & Any Trident
Coleshill (90): Will See E400's & 46xx Tridents
Tile Cross (14): Any Skip
Harborne: Hybrids
Weoley Castle: B7RLE's & Any Trident
That's pretty much your lot, lol.
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
Been confirmed by another reliable source that BC will be losing 43'hundred Tridents to Yarlwood garage and YW's Presidents will be displaced to various garages, including but not limited to Dundee.
And that's the truth as of 21/6/13@1200
So BC will be losing 23 Tridents to my figures but I don't mind 4367 going to YW I have to use a couple of YW Routes to see family so I'll still get to see 4367 at least :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 22, 2013, 08:27:15 AM
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
Been confirmed by another reliable source that BC will be losing 43'hundred Tridents to Yarlwood garage and YW's Presidents will be displaced to various garages, including but not limited to Dundee.
And that's the truth as of 21/6/13@1200
So BC will be losing 23 Tridents to my figures but I don't mind 4367 going to YW I have to use a couple of YW Routes to see family so I'll still get to see 4367 at least :)
I'd guess we might keep the 5 early 43's we've got but the later ones are deffinately gone.
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 10:39:20 PM
Quote from: Mike K on June 21, 2013, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
Been confirmed by another reliable source that BC will be losing 43'hundred Tridents to Yarlwood garage and YW's Presidents will be displaced to various garages, including but not limited to Dundee.
And that's the truth as of 21/6/13@1200
That's disappointing, I was hoping the batch of 65 Y reg ones would be broken up. 12 year old buses making up a third of the fleet of a garage that operates so many busy corridors is a bit crap really.
I know mate, but that leaves the following roads:
Bristol Road: Any Bag of Nails
Pershore Road: Any Garden Shed
Great Park: E200 & B7RLE
Chelmsley: 44xx Trident
Cranes Park/Cov: E400 & B7RLE & Any Trident
Coleshill (90): Will See E400's & 46xx Tridents
Tile Cross (14): Any Skip
Harborne: Hybrids
Weoley Castle: B7RLE's & Any Trident
That's pretty much your lot, lol.
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If the above is a referring to the 90 would be nice to see some half decent buses to compete on the Castle Brom corridor over the far superior Claribels vehicles.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 25, 2013, 05:44:28 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 10:39:20 PM
Quote from: Mike K on June 21, 2013, 10:30:59 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 21, 2013, 10:24:49 PM
Been confirmed by another reliable source that BC will be losing 43'hundred Tridents to Yarlwood garage and YW's Presidents will be displaced to various garages, including but not limited to Dundee.
And that's the truth as of 21/6/13@1200
That's disappointing, I was hoping the batch of 65 Y reg ones would be broken up. 12 year old buses making up a third of the fleet of a garage that operates so many busy corridors is a bit crap really.
I know mate, but that leaves the following roads:
Bristol Road: Any Bag of Nails
Pershore Road: Any Garden Shed
Great Park: E200 & B7RLE
Chelmsley: 44xx Trident
Cranes Park/Cov: E400 & B7RLE & Any Trident
Coleshill (90): Will See E400's & 46xx Tridents
Tile Cross (14): Any Skip
Harborne: Hybrids
Weoley Castle: B7RLE's & Any Trident
That's pretty much your lot, lol.
If the above is a referring to the 90 would be nice to see some half decent buses to compete on the Castle Brom corridor over the far superior Claribels vehicles.
Indeed. According to who I speak to, they haven't been wrong so far, the 90 will see 46xx's and E400's exclusively. Anybody got the PVR for the 90?
At a guess i would say 5 at a max
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 25, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
At a guess i would say 5 at a max
That'll make sense then really.
I dont think any 90 interworks with the 14, as has been said previous.
When BC E400's the spare will going on the 60 or 90?? Similar does CV E400 when the spare will going on the 11/12.
Quote from: 6013 on June 25, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
When BC E400's the spare will going on the 60 or 90?? Similar does CV E400 when the spare will going on the 11/12.
900/957 - Usual Allocation.
59/60/90 - Spare Allocation.
Quote from: The Rat on June 25, 2013, 07:05:31 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 25, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
At a guess i would say 5 at a max
That'll make sense then really.
I dont think any 90 interworks with the 14, as has been said previous.
Doesn't the 90 inter work with anything at night? The timetable shows it arriving at Priory Queensway at 27 mins past, but departing on the hour. Similar on a Sunday.
Daytime layovers in Chemsley Wood also seem long. But not my side of the city so I wouldn't have a clue.
In the evening and Sunday interworks with the 56.
Thanks, that explains it. I've never seen the NXWM 56, not in it's current guise anyway.
This picture of BX13 JWJ (There are no have fleetno) :- http://wallys-wanderings.smugmug.com/Buses/NX-West-Midlands-Enviro-E400s/29332481_4MtKDk#!i=2586181342&k=5dwM52w
43XX Trident will high unlikely transferred to WN for replace Spectares. Spectares will stay in couple of years till Dec 2016.
So 43XX Trident will best transferred to YW for more more replace Presidents going to NX Dundee for any B10L still poor condition and worn to withdrawn.
4218 shouldn't not transferred to back CV garage but 4218 should be stay at NXWM ever. I would think 4217 and 4219 could miss too much 4218 because haven't seen 4218 in ages.
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 25, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
At a guess i would say 5 at a max
I would think it would be more around 7 just for the full 900 as they have around 20 mins layover in Coventry. 3 each way with 1 on layover in Coventry
Quote from: John on June 26, 2013, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 25, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
At a guess i would say 5 at a max
I would think it would be more around 7 just for the full 900 as they have around 20 mins layover in Coventry. 3 each way with 1 on layover in Coventry
I think we worked it out on here that the 900/900E would need around 10 buses & the 957 around 6 buses
Quote from: John on June 26, 2013, 01:36:36 PM
Quote from: monkeyjoe on June 25, 2013, 06:48:22 PM
At a guess i would say 5 at a max
I would think it would be more around 7 just for the full 900 as they have around 20 mins layover in Coventry. 3 each way with 1 on layover in Coventry
What are you jacking?
We guessed 5 was the PVR for the 90, not 900. ;)
Quote from: The Rat on June 25, 2013, 07:38:41 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 25, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
When BC E400's the spare will going on the 60 or 90?? Similar does CV E400 when the spare will going on the 11/12.
900/957 - Usual Allocation.
59/60/90 - Spare Allocation.
I know its been said already but I just want to make sure these Enviro's will be out this Monday Coming :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 26, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 25, 2013, 07:38:41 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 25, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
When BC E400's the spare will going on the 60 or 90?? Similar does CV E400 when the spare will going on the 11/12.
900/957 - Usual Allocation.
59/60/90 - Spare Allocation.
I know its been said already but I just want to make sure these Enviro's will be out this Monday Coming :)
Well you're not going to see them prior to Monday! In all seriousness, yes, Monday is the date providing it all goes well with the contractors.
Quote from: The Rat on June 26, 2013, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 26, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 25, 2013, 07:38:41 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 25, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
When BC E400's the spare will going on the 60 or 90?? Similar does CV E400 when the spare will going on the 11/12.
900/957 - Usual Allocation.
59/60/90 - Spare Allocation.
I know its been said already but I just want to make sure these Enviro's will be out this Monday Coming :)
Well you're not going to see them prior to Monday! In all seriousness, yes, Monday is the date providing it all goes well with the contractors.
Thank You for telling me Mate ;)
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 26, 2013, 03:11:42 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 26, 2013, 03:10:08 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 26, 2013, 03:07:08 PM
Quote from: The Rat on June 25, 2013, 07:38:41 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 25, 2013, 07:08:44 PM
When BC E400's the spare will going on the 60 or 90?? Similar does CV E400 when the spare will going on the 11/12.
900/957 - Usual Allocation.
59/60/90 - Spare Allocation.
I know its been said already but I just want to make sure these Enviro's will be out this Monday Coming :)
Well you're not going to see them prior to Monday! In all seriousness, yes, Monday is the date providing it all goes well with the contractors.
Thank You for telling me Mate ;)
No problem mate.
I've got an early cov duty on Monday so I could be one of the first out on the road 8)
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No problem mate.
I've got an early cov duty on Monday so I could be one of the first out on the road 8)
You get about a bit Rat. Are you on the spare rota now or still Bristol Road?
Quote from: Mike K on June 26, 2013, 07:41:28 PM
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No problem mate.
I've got an early cov duty on Monday so I could be one of the first out on the road 8)
You get about a bit Rat. Are you on the spare rota now or still Bristol Road?
I swap the BR work as it gets a bit much doing that constantly. Certain roads I don't know officially like the 97/90/14 etc but I don't really like the East. And I don't think any BC routes go to the North. Wish they did though.
Even though BC is massive, most the routes are on the same corridor. Cov, Harborne, Bristol really.
4895-4913 = 19 E400 and BC Trident 19 will lose? and displaced to another garage
How many E400 will have spare in garage for Mon-Fri, Sat and Sunday??
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 12:03:37 PM
4895-4913 = 19 E400 and BC Trident 19 will lose? and displaced to another garage
How many E400 will have spare in garage for Mon-Fri, Sat and Sunday??
BC has already lost two Tridents to YW i.e. 4390 & 4393
4901 has first enter on the 900 at today!
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
4901 has first enter on the 900 at today!
4901 was on the 957 when it first entered service and this is 4901's 2nd trip to Coventry I think :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 29, 2013, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
4901 has first enter on the 900 at today!
4901 was on the 957 when it first entered service and this is 4901's 2nd trip to Coventry I think :)
Yeah I know.....
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 29, 2013, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
4901 has first enter on the 900 at today!
4901 was on the 957 when it first entered service and this is 4901's 2nd trip to Coventry I think :)
Yeah I know, but I meaning Yesterday New E400 hasn't enter service on the 900 but on the 14 and 957! Today First E400 on the 900 is 4901. :)
Listen chap, the 14 was a joke. It hasn't entered service on the Tile Cross.
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 29, 2013, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
4901 has first enter on the 900 at today!
4901 was on the 957 when it first entered service and this is 4901's 2nd trip to Coventry I think :)
Yeah I know, but I meaning Yesterday New E400 hasn't enter service on the 900 but on the 14 and 957! Today First E400 on the 900 is 4901. :)
They have been on the 900 for 3 days, and no one hasn't been on the 14. Here is 4895 on the 900 yesterday (front hasn't shown up on the photo, but you can easily read '900 Coventry' on the side
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4895.html
Quote from: The Rat on June 29, 2013, 09:07:15 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 08:57:23 PM
Quote from: Rob4367 on June 29, 2013, 08:54:44 PM
Quote from: 6013 on June 29, 2013, 07:48:31 PM
4901 has first enter on the 900 at today!
4901 was on the 957 when it first entered service and this is 4901's 2nd trip to Coventry I think :)
Yeah I know, but I meaning Yesterday New E400 hasn't enter service on the 900 but on the 14 and 957! Today First E400 on the 900 is 4901. :)
Listen chap, the 14 was a joke. It hasn't entered service on the Tile Cross.
Okay theRat, I will changes it! Thanks for Tony let me knw :)
Quote from: Tony on June 29, 2013, 09:09:26 PM
They have been on the 900 for 3 days, and no one hasn't been on the 14. Here is 4895 on the 900 yesterday (front hasn't shown up on the photo, but you can easily read '900 Coventry' on the side
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4700-4879/4895.html
As Tony says, they've been out for 3 days at least, here's 4898 on Thursday:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/58130037@N02/9168100117/
4901 BX13JVZ today
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9170608284/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tomsbusphotos/9170608284/)
When will the branding of the 10 commence? Which refurbished buses will be used?
Quote from: Shaun on June 30, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
When will the branding of the 10 commence? Which refurbished buses will be used?
Someone mentioned Geminis were been branded for the 10 but I really can not see them coming off the 13.
I reckon Y-TOH Tridents as most are refurbed already if it is still getting branding
Quote from: John on June 30, 2013, 07:29:04 AM
Quote from: Shaun on June 30, 2013, 12:15:49 AM
When will the branding of the 10 commence? Which refurbished buses will be used?
Someone mentioned Geminis were been branded for the 10 but I really can not see them coming off the 13.
I reckon Y-TOH Tridents as most are refurbed already if it is still getting branding
Next year, NXC could get some new Hybrid on the 13 then re-branding similar on 1 WN.
Anyone! 4900 hasn't yet on the service??
Quote from: 6013 on July 17, 2013, 09:02:41 AM
Anyone! 4900 hasn't yet on the service??
No! 4900 hasn't entered yet but I'm looking out every single day just in case :)
Quote from: Rob4367 on July 17, 2013, 09:12:10 AM
Quote from: 6013 on July 17, 2013, 09:02:41 AM
Anyone! 4900 hasn't yet on the service??
No! 4900 hasn't entered yet but I'm looking out every single day just in case :)
I havent managed to catch it, but it has been out on the 900 (I saw a picture somewhere) I was looking out for it the moment E400's were being used, then the branding and vehicle names were introduced and now I'm much more interested in them.
I must admit Gabriella is my favourite.
Well surely it would be on the 900 if it is branded for the route. Although Knowing BC they are used on the 59/60 ;)
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 14, 2013, 08:22:49 PM
Well surely it would be on the 900 if it is branded for the route. Although Knowing BC they are used on the 59/60 ;)
;D thats were I found 900 branded 4902