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Title: Lost NX contracts
Post by: dayvid on December 13, 2012, 07:31:21 PM
Rotala long acre have lost their 777 and 210 National Express Contracts. New Operator ill be Decourcey
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: PM on December 13, 2012, 08:06:10 PM
How long do NX contracts run for? Cos didnt rotala only start them in 2011 and I bet rotala will be glad to get shot of work which according to some operators has next to no profit in it
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Ash on December 13, 2012, 08:09:02 PM
The way it's going not much will run out of Long Acre black diamond's 16 and 50 services how to transfer there to give them more bus services to operate from Long Acre to make up for withdrawing off the 37/97. Surely it would be more profitable to close down Long Acre and transfer the bus operations along with the Hallmark coaches to Tividale and transfer services like the 202 to Redditch to make room. Unless theres not enough capacity at Tividale.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on December 14, 2012, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: Peter123 on December 13, 2012, 08:06:10 PM
How long do NX contracts run for? Cos didnt rotala only start them in 2011 and I bet rotala will be glad to get shot of work which according to some operators has next to no profit in it

I think De Courcey's original contract with NX at the same time was for at least 5 yrs due to them opening the new depot in Miller Street, I believe Rotala have had a number of issues with providing the NX services from various reports I've seen, I've seen whereas as De Courcey are now one of NX's top performers & have recently won an NX award for best newcomer.

As you say, I don't think there are big profits to be made operating NX services, but they can't be that poor otherwise De Courcey wouldn't take on the new contracts. NX work for smaller coach operators is particularly useful as it provides regular work, guaranteed turnover & regular income (cash flow)

I expect the 11 reg Levante's will transfer from Rotala to De Courcey along with the routes. Does anyone have a date for this transfer of services?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Nathan4775 on December 14, 2012, 04:11:42 PM
Quote from: dayvid on December 13, 2012, 07:31:21 PM
Rotala long acre have lost their 777 and 210 National Express Contracts. New Operator ill be Decourcey


Ive seen Hallmark Coaches operating the 777 but im guessing there from Long Acre ? or am i Wrong
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on December 14, 2012, 04:24:21 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on December 14, 2012, 04:11:42 PM
Quote from: dayvid on December 13, 2012, 07:31:21 PM
Rotala long acre have lost their 777 and 210 National Express Contracts. New Operator ill be Decourcey


Ive seen Hallmark Coaches operating the 777 but im guessing there from Long Acre ? or am i Wrong

The NX contract was with Flights Hallmark, some Hallmark coaches are based at Long Acre, so you're correct
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on December 19, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES. Don't know what will happen with the flights ones, and personally don't blame de courcey for getting new ones considering how badly flights treat there's.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Isle of Stroma on December 19, 2012, 08:08:01 AM
Quote from: dannygill on December 19, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on December 19, 2012, 05:15:37 PM
Quote from: dannygill on December 19, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES. Don't know what will happen with the flights ones, and personally don't blame de courcey for getting new ones considering how badly flights treat there's.

I wonder if another NX contractor or even NX ops will take the ex Flight Hallmark coaches 11 reg Levantes.

Is De Courcey intending to operate the additional 14 x NX coaches out of Miller Street depot?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Isle of Stroma on December 21, 2012, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 19, 2012, 08:08:01 AM
Quote from: dannygill on December 19, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

De Courcey have been allocated build numbers F123043045-58, which I had originally listed as '12' plates awaiting delivery in the June 'National Express Coaches pocket book'.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on December 21, 2012, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 21, 2012, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 19, 2012, 08:08:01 AM
Quote from: dannygill on December 19, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

De Courcey have been allocated build numbers F123043045-58, which I had originally listed as '12' plates awaiting delivery in the June 'National Express Coaches pocket book'.

NEL111P, did that batch actually get built back then? Or was production of that batch put back
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Isle of Stroma on December 21, 2012, 11:08:14 PM
Quote from: Winston on December 21, 2012, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 21, 2012, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 19, 2012, 08:08:01 AM
Quote from: dannygill on December 19, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

De Courcey have been allocated build numbers F123043045-58, which I had originally listed as '12' plates awaiting delivery in the June 'National Express Coaches pocket book'.

NEL111P, did that batch actually get built back then? Or was production of that batch put back

I've just noticed a mistake in my original comment. The list of Coaches 'awaiting delivery' in the pocket book were build numbers F123043024 - 050 (in order of listing in the book, of which '045-50 are for De Courcey) & were complete at the time the book went to print. Since then, I am aware of further builds of (at least) F123043051-062 (including the last 8 of De Courceys batch).

Build numbers up to '030 were registered with '12' plates, '031 onwards have received '62' plates.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on December 21, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 21, 2012, 11:08:14 PM
Quote from: Winston on December 21, 2012, 10:30:08 PM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 21, 2012, 10:07:52 PM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 19, 2012, 08:08:01 AM
Quote from: dannygill on December 19, 2012, 12:36:12 AM
De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

De Courcey have been allocated build numbers F123043045-58, which I had originally listed as '12' plates awaiting delivery in the June 'National Express Coaches pocket book'.

NEL111P, did that batch actually get built back then? Or was production of that batch put back

I've just noticed a mistake in my original comment. The list of Coaches 'awaiting delivery' in the pocket book were build numbers F123043024 - 050 (in order of listing in the book, of which '045-50 are for De Courcey) & were complete at the time the book went to print. Since then, I am aware of further builds of (at least) F123043051-062 (including the last 8 of De Courceys batch).

Build numbers up to '030 were registered with '12' plates, '031 onwards have received '62' plates.

Thanks Dave,

The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows:

Galloway
317 FN62CAA

EYMS
74 FN62CGX
75 FN62CEU
76 FN62CEA

Selwyns (delivered or are due imminently)
204 FN62CCV   
205 FN62CDE   
206 FN62CCZ   
207 FN62CDY   
208 FN62CJU   

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Isle of Stroma on December 22, 2012, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Winston on December 21, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows: /SNIP/

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point

I have the identities & operators for all up to F123043062, none of which are slated for NX ops. Now, it could be that these will be further builds, or maybe the Flights batch are destined for further Airport work, i don't know as yet.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on December 22, 2012, 12:29:50 AM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 22, 2012, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Winston on December 21, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows: /SNIP/

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point

I have the identities & operators for all up to F123043062, none of which are slated for NX ops. Now, it could be that these will be further builds, or maybe the Flights batch are destined for further Airport work, i don't know as yet.

Thanks Dave, are you willing to share the Id's / operators for the rest of the batch to date or are you intending to do another update for the NX pocket fleetbook?

It may be complete coincidence, but the quantities of those Levantes reported due at NX op's Start Hill and those at Flights Hallmark are exactly the same

Just noticed on bus and coach.com that NX ops may be closing Crawley Depot

http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=7357&categoryid=0
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Isle of Stroma on December 22, 2012, 01:05:24 AM
Quote from: Winston on December 22, 2012, 12:29:50 AM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 22, 2012, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Winston on December 21, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows: /SNIP/

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point

I have the identities & operators for all up to F123043062, none of which are slated for NX ops. Now, it could be that these will be further builds, or maybe the Flights batch are destined for further Airport work, i don't know as yet.

Thanks Dave, are you willing to share the Id's / operators for the rest of the batch to date or are you intending to do another update for the NX pocket fleetbook?

It may be complete coincidence, but the quantities of those Levantes reported due at NX op's Start Hill and those at Flights Hallmark are exactly the same

Just noticed on bus and coach.com that NX ops may be closing Crawley Depot

http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=7357&categoryid=0

I've got to put the pocket books larger A5 sized 2013 cousin to bed over the weekend first (no hoped for Eurolines content I'm afraid, due to lack of leads for information & lack of spare time to pursue further avenues).

De Courcey are down for FN62CKY/CME/CMK/CMO/CMZ/CNE/CNJ/CPX/CRJ/CUY/CVB/CVG/CVM/CVP.

As things stand, I'm currently scheduled to have a bit more time on my hands after 11 January ;-)
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on December 22, 2012, 01:15:09 AM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 22, 2012, 01:05:24 AM
Quote from: Winston on December 22, 2012, 12:29:50 AM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 22, 2012, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Winston on December 21, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows: /SNIP/

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point

I have the identities & operators for all up to F123043062, none of which are slated for NX ops. Now, it could be that these will be further builds, or maybe the Flights batch are destined for further Airport work, i don't know as yet.

Thanks Dave, are you willing to share the Id's / operators for the rest of the batch to date or are you intending to do another update for the NX pocket fleetbook?

It may be complete coincidence, but the quantities of those Levantes reported due at NX op's Start Hill and those at Flights Hallmark are exactly the same

Just noticed on bus and coach.com that NX ops may be closing Crawley Depot

http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=7357&categoryid=0

I've got to put the pocket books larger A5 sized 2013 cousin to bed over the weekend first (no hoped for Eurolines content I'm afraid, due to lack of leads for information & lack of spare time to pursue further avenues).

De Courcey are down for FN62CKY/CME/CMK/CMO/CMZ/CNE/CNJ/CPX/CRJ/CUY/CVB/CVG/CVM/CVP.

As things stand, I'm currently scheduled to have a bit more time on my hands after 11 January ;-)

Thanks for confirmation of the De Courcey batch, do you know if De Courcey are intending to operate these 14 plus the initial 12 all out of their Miller St depot?

That's as shame as regards Eurolines, they do seem to be pretty difficult to gain info on other than the odd report from VCS

Are you hoping to stay working within the bus industry? All the best for the future
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on December 29, 2012, 02:17:54 AM
I have now herd that de courcey gaining the 210/777 isn't fully agreed as Rotala have now launched an appeal. Have herd that if they do gain the contracts that the coaches are more than likely to be kept at the national express west midlands depot at miller street. Don't know how true as both are only rumours....but very interesting
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on December 29, 2012, 01:11:44 PM
Quote from: dannygill on December 29, 2012, 02:17:54 AM
I have now herd that de courcey gaining the 210/777 isn't fully agreed as Rotala have now launched an appeal. Have herd that if they do gain the contracts that the coaches are more than likely to be kept at the national express west midlands depot at miller street. Don't know how true as both are only rumours....but very interesting

Danny,

If you look at the web links below showing the architects site plans, the De Courcey depot in Miller St has planning permission for/can only accommodate 14 coaches, if they do also get the NX contracts for the 210 & 777 from Rotala, this will take them up to 28 coaches. Obviously there will be very few/if any occasions when all the fleet will be parked up together, other than possibly on Xmas day; they may need to park coaches at NXWM Miller St on those rare occasions. Another condition of use of the site as a coach depot is that they are only allowed a maximum of 20 coach movements in/out of the depot between the hours of 24:00 - 6:00am daily and that was based on the 14 coaches currently operated.

http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/documentstream/documentstream.aspx?name=public:0901487a80e9f58f.pdf+0901487a80e9f58f&unique=548944&type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP
http://eplanning.birmingham.gov.uk/Northgate/DocumentExplorer/documentstream/documentstream.aspx?name=public:0901487a80eac60d.pdf+0901487a80eac60d&unique=548944&type=eplprod_DC_PLANAPP

Initially when news broke that De Courcey were looking/needed to move out of Garrison St Depot, rumours suggested that they would be moving in to part/operating from NXWM's Miller St site, but nothing ever came of this & the current site next door was re-built to accommodate the operation

De Courcey's contract was for a 7 year term, I wonder if Rotala's was for the same period as well? I've seen it reported that Rotala have had some operational issues with the NX contracts

Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: andyr on January 03, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
Is it correct that Flights have also lost the contract for the Aston Villa team coach? I belive that Birmingham International are now operating it.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Kevin on January 03, 2013, 10:24:27 PM
I suppose this would explain why I saw some de Courcey coaches at miller st the other day
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on January 04, 2013, 01:17:41 PM
Quote from: andyr on January 03, 2013, 10:00:16 PM
Is it correct that Flights have also lost the contract for the Aston Villa team coach? I belive that Birmingham International are now operating it.

Yes they lost it to birmingham international at the start of this season
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on February 17, 2013, 01:03:38 AM
Quote from: dave47549 (no longer NEL111P) on December 22, 2012, 01:05:24 AM
Quote from: Winston on December 22, 2012, 12:29:50 AM
Quote from: NEL111P on December 22, 2012, 12:22:17 AM
Quote from: Winston on December 21, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows: /SNIP/

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point

I have the identities & operators for all up to F123043062, none of which are slated for NX ops. Now, it could be that these will be further builds, or maybe the Flights batch are destined for further Airport work, i don't know as yet.

Thanks Dave, are you willing to share the Id's / operators for the rest of the batch to date or are you intending to do another update for the NX pocket fleetbook?

It may be complete coincidence, but the quantities of those Levantes reported due at NX op's Start Hill and those at Flights Hallmark are exactly the same

Just noticed on bus and coach.com that NX ops may be closing Crawley Depot

http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=7357&categoryid=0

I've got to put the pocket books larger A5 sized 2013 cousin to bed over the weekend first (no hoped for Eurolines content I'm afraid, due to lack of leads for information & lack of spare time to pursue further avenues).

De Courcey are down for FN62CKY/CME/CMK/CMO/CMZ/CNE/CNJ/CPX/CRJ/CUY/CVB/CVG/CVM/CVP.

As things stand, I'm currently scheduled to have a bit more time on my hands after 11 January ;-)

De Courcey are now beginning to receive the above 62 plate Levantes with MD15 FN62CME & MD16 FN62CKY reported in service so far. I take it that they will still be taking over from Rotala on the 210 / 777 NX diagrams? Will all the additional coaches be operated out of their Miller St coach depot? Has anyone heard what Rotala are planning to do with their 14 x 11 plate Levantes?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: notepanel on March 14, 2013, 12:58:51 PM
It is to my understanding that the contract for the 210 & 777 will transfer to DeCourcey from 21 April.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on March 15, 2013, 12:28:47 AM
Quote from: notepanel on March 14, 2013, 12:58:51 PM
It is to my understanding that the contract for the 210 & 777 will transfer to DeCourcey from 21 April.

Thanks for the confirmation, do you happen to have any idea where they will be operated from? As DeCourcey doesn't currently have planning permission to operate any more than 14 coaches from its Miller St base, also they have restrictions imposed where a maximum of up to 20 coach movements in/out of the depot are allowed only between the hours of 24:00hrs & 06:00 hrs daily. I'm not sure the current B'ham depot could even accommodate a fleet of approx 28 coaches 
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Solo1 on March 22, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
the new NX contracts will run rom Miller st as DE Courcey have an increase in the number of coaches they can run to 28 coaches
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on March 22, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
but they have also won the 310 from travelstars so does that 28 include that as the original contract was de courcey 14 coaches flights 14 coaches =28 so what about additional 310 service?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on March 22, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 22, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
the new NX contracts will run rom Miller st as DE Courcey have an increase in the number of coaches they can run to 28 coaches

Thanks for the confirmation, is Xmas day the only day that all the coaches could be parked in the depot at the same time? As I don't think the site is big enough to accommodate all 28+ coaches at the same time
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on March 22, 2013, 11:06:24 PM
Quote from: dannygill on March 22, 2013, 09:24:41 PM
but they have also won the 310 from travelstars so does that 28 include that as the original contract was de courcey 14 coaches flights 14 coaches =28 so what about additional 310 service?

Decourcey seem to be doing well at picking up the former Veolia, Birmingham NX work, looking at the 310 workings that Travelstar European currently operate I wouldn't have they would need any more than 2 extra coaches
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Tony on March 23, 2013, 09:49:42 AM
Quote from: Winston on March 22, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 22, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
the new NX contracts will run rom Miller st as DE Courcey have an increase in the number of coaches they can run to 28 coaches

Thanks for the confirmation, is Xmas day the only day that all the coaches could be parked in the depot at the same time? As I don't think the site is big enough to accommodate all 28+ coaches at the same time

The airport services even run on Christmas day don't they?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: notepanel on March 23, 2013, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 23, 2013, 09:49:42 AM
Quote from: Winston on March 22, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 22, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
the new NX contracts will run rom Miller st as DE Courcey have an increase in the number of coaches they can run to 28 coaches

Thanks for the confirmation, is Xmas day the only day that all the coaches could be parked in the depot at the same time? As I don't think the site is big enough to accommodate all 28+ coaches at the same time

The airport services even run on Christmas day don't they?

No, there are no departures that start on Christmas Day. They resume with the 0030 departures on Boxing Day morning. (For example this year the 1845 777 departure from Birmingham did not run on Xmas Eve, as the return journey went too far into Xmas Day).

DeCourcey have operated that particular journey on the 310 since January. It operates the 0830 off Birmingham & 1535 return.  They have also operated the Friday/Sundays 1515 journey off Coventry & return to Birmingham for some time. Last year as well, they also operated the 387 Blackpool service.

Travelstar still have the 320 & 319 workings, plus some journeys on the 210.




Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on March 23, 2013, 12:43:20 PM
Quote from: notepanel on March 23, 2013, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 23, 2013, 09:49:42 AM
Quote from: Winston on March 22, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 22, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
the new NX contracts will run rom Miller st as DE Courcey have an increase in the number of coaches they can run to 28 coaches

Thanks for the confirmation, is Xmas day the only day that all the coaches could be parked in the depot at the same time? As I don't think the site is big enough to accommodate all 28+ coaches at the same time

The airport services even run on Christmas day don't they?

No, there are no departures that start on Christmas Day. They resume with the 0030 departures on Boxing Day morning. (For example this year the 1845 777 departure from Birmingham did not run on Xmas Eve, as the return journey went too far into Xmas Day).

DeCourcey have operated that particular journey on the 310 since January. It operates the 0830 off Birmingham & 1535 return.  They have also operated the Friday/Sundays 1515 journey off Coventry & return to Birmingham for some time. Last year as well, they also operated the 387 Blackpool service.

Travelstar still have the 320 & 319 workings, plus some journeys on the 210.






The 310 to Leeds was originally a seasonal extra and nx decided then to run it all the time with De courcey and the 387 is a seasonal extra. the year before de courcey ran it Elcocks ran the service but they seem to the on the 630 (I think) to Minehead.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: notepanel on March 23, 2013, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: dannygill on March 23, 2013, 12:43:20 PM
Quote from: notepanel on March 23, 2013, 10:57:59 AM
Quote from: Tony on March 23, 2013, 09:49:42 AM
Quote from: Winston on March 22, 2013, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Solo1 on March 22, 2013, 05:42:01 PM
the new NX contracts will run rom Miller st as DE Courcey have an increase in the number of coaches they can run to 28 coaches

Thanks for the confirmation, is Xmas day the only day that all the coaches could be parked in the depot at the same time? As I don't think the site is big enough to accommodate all 28+ coaches at the same time

The airport services even run on Christmas day don't they?

No, there are no departures that start on Christmas Day. They resume with the 0030 departures on Boxing Day morning. (For example this year the 1845 777 departure from Birmingham did not run on Xmas Eve, as the return journey went too far into Xmas Day).

DeCourcey have operated that particular journey on the 310 since January. It operates the 0830 off Birmingham & 1535 return.  They have also operated the Friday/Sundays 1515 journey off Coventry & return to Birmingham for some time. Last year as well, they also operated the 387 Blackpool service.

Travelstar still have the 320 & 319 workings, plus some journeys on the 210.






The 310 to Leeds was originally a seasonal extra and nx decided then to run it all the time with De courcey and the 387 is a seasonal extra. the year before de courcey ran it Elcocks ran the service but they seem to the on the 630 (I think) to Minehead.

Yes, the 387 runs Friday through to Monday, and besides peak periods (Eg over Xmas & Easter), it recommences from the 20th May. Elcocks had the 675 Wolverhampton-Birmingham-Minehead last year I think. I can't remember who operated the 661 & 662 Skegness services from Birmingham & Coventry. These services start again from the 14th April.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on March 27, 2013, 10:37:00 AM
Been told that that flights coaches currently running on their national express work are going to yourbus
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on March 27, 2013, 10:48:57 AM
Quote from: dannygill on March 27, 2013, 10:37:00 AM
Been told that that flights coaches currently running on their national express work are going to yourbus

Originally DeCourcey were meant to be having a new fleet, which did seem a waste of resources seeing as the Rotala ones are only 2 years old.

I notice NX group have announced this morning that they have won a seven year contract to operate coaches between Luton Airport & Victoria Coach Station, I assume this will replace the current Greenline 757 & will be at the expense of Arriva Shires & Essex? NX takeover from 1st May, no idea how will be running it....
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: the trainbasher on March 27, 2013, 11:21:03 AM
From a new depot in luton I believe
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on March 27, 2013, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: trainbasher on March 27, 2013, 11:21:03 AM
From a new depot in luton I believe

Will it be operated by NX ops then? Seems strange they have closed Crawley then open a new depot at Luton Airport, I expect NX may in addition go after airport parking shuttles as per Stansted

There's an article in the latest Routeone magazine, but doesn't give any of the finer details

http://www.route-one.net/issues/480/index.html#/6/
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: the trainbasher on March 27, 2013, 01:12:44 PM
 http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=81380 (http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=81380) is where I found out what's happening
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on March 27, 2013, 01:27:14 PM
Quote from: trainbasher on March 27, 2013, 01:12:44 PM
http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=81380 (http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=81380) is where I found out what's happening

Thanks for forwarding the link, I'm a member of that forum but missed the topic. It seems 18 x Levante will operate the new A1 service, I assume these will be brand new & could be why DeCourcey are no longer having brand new Levante for the 210 & 777 diagrams soon to be taken over from Flights Hallmark?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on April 15, 2013, 10:15:54 PM
Looking at Tony's latest photos, DeCourcey have now taken delivery of further 13 plate Caetano Levante up to fleetnumber MD25, I assume the transfer of NX routes 210 & 777 from Flights Hallmark to DeCourcey is still due to take place on Sun 21st April?

http://wmbusphotos.com/DeCourcey/md17.html
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on April 16, 2013, 02:59:51 PM
Yes. They are ment to start by operating the very last services down to the airport of the day
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on May 25, 2013, 11:06:03 PM
Does anyone have any idea what has happened to the 14 x 11 reg Levante Flights Hallmark had employed on 210 & 777 NX contracts?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: notepanel on May 26, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
From something I noticed yesterday, I believe they are currently still parked at Rotala's depot in Aston.
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on May 26, 2013, 10:31:33 PM
Quote from: notepanel on May 26, 2013, 02:44:37 PM
From something I noticed yesterday, I believe they are currently still parked at Rotala's depot in Aston.

Thanks for the info, if that is the case, that's a lot of expensive 2 year old assets that have been sat around redundant for a month already
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on May 27, 2013, 11:42:20 PM
are they still branded up or are they stripped to plain white now?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on May 27, 2013, 11:50:18 PM
Quote from: dannygill on May 27, 2013, 11:42:20 PM
are they still branded up or are they stripped to plain white now?

I'm sure Tony reported them operating in allover white before the contracts transferred to DeCoursey
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on May 29, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Every single one?
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on May 29, 2013, 10:04:37 PM
Quote from: dannygill on May 29, 2013, 09:50:01 PM
Every single one?

Couldn't tell you, because at the same time Epsom coaches were also operating Levantes in allover white
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on May 31, 2013, 01:20:43 AM
Quote from: Winston on May 25, 2013, 11:06:03 PM
Does anyone have any idea what has happened to the 14 x 11 reg Levante Flights Hallmark had employed on 210 & 777 NX contracts?

Answer my own question...... all 14 x 2011 Levantes are currently advertised for sale in the Latest Routeone along with the usual Rotala sales

http://www.route-one.net/issues/489/index.html#/64/
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Tony on June 13, 2013, 09:09:32 PM
They seem to be using the ex NX levantes on the National Grid Contract in Leamington
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Solo1 on June 14, 2013, 02:25:08 AM
where's teh white bus that is normally on teh natuional grid service in leamington
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: midlandred2003 on June 14, 2013, 10:55:34 AM
It was the white bus last week when I
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: John on June 14, 2013, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: midlandred2003 on June 14, 2013, 10:55:34 AM
It was the white bus last week when I

Yes, it is usually the white B7RLE at Long Acre, 30923
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: Tony on June 14, 2013, 01:58:21 PM
Quote from: John on June 14, 2013, 01:42:20 PM
Quote from: midlandred2003 on June 14, 2013, 10:55:34 AM
It was the white bus last week when I

Yes, it is usually the white B7RLE at Long Acre, 30923
There is more than one vehicle on it
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on April 26, 2014, 08:09:52 PM
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/business/business-news/rotala-take-legal-action-against-7032179
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: bwsau cymru on April 27, 2014, 02:10:54 AM
Quote from: Winston on April 26, 2014, 08:09:52 PM
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/business/business-news/rotala-take-legal-action-against-7032179


As much as I would like to see Rotala win I cant see it happening....
Title: Re: Lost NX contracts
Post by: winston on June 03, 2014, 09:22:00 AM
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/business/business-news/rotala-reaches-settlement-legal-dispute-7201643