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West Midlands Buses in Discussion => National Express West Midlands => Topic started by: adam 21 on November 01, 2012, 07:20:14 PM

Title: 112 116
Post by: adam 21 on November 01, 2012, 07:20:14 PM
does the 112 amd 116 iterwork in town now that  they are both at tamworth
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: andy on November 01, 2012, 08:40:59 PM
Yes
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: adam 21 on November 01, 2012, 10:01:16 PM
thanks for that
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: arrivaaston on November 01, 2012, 11:11:10 PM
Is the servicr 112 just going to be operated by the scanias or could the merc make an appearnce on route?
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: tphi12000 on November 02, 2012, 06:12:38 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 01, 2012, 11:11:10 PM
Is the servicr 112 just going to be operated by the scanias or could the merc make an appearnce on route?
B6 2616 was on there yesterday
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: John on November 02, 2012, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 01, 2012, 11:11:10 PM
Is the servicr 112 just going to be operated by the scanias or could the merc make an appearnce on route?

I would think they will make an appearance at one point
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: nx4737 on November 02, 2012, 03:00:34 PM
Quote from: John-s-91 on November 02, 2012, 09:33:35 AM
Quote from: arrivaaston on November 01, 2012, 11:11:10 PM
Is the servicr 112 just going to be operated by the scanias or could the merc make an appearnce on route?

I would think they will make an appearance at one point

Thought why anyone would want to put a Merc on it is beyond me...
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: broma1k on November 02, 2012, 07:10:44 PM
3017 noted this afternoon in Lichfield on the 112
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: Nathan4775 on November 02, 2012, 07:18:21 PM
I'd Like to see a Gemini on the 112  8) ;D
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: Bob on November 02, 2012, 09:10:50 PM
That wouldnt be possible Nathan
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: andy on November 03, 2012, 05:33:52 PM
Quote from: NathanJC on November 02, 2012, 07:18:21 PM
I'd Like to see a Gemini on the 112  8) ;D

It would soon be open top...
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: adam 21 on November 03, 2012, 11:15:18 PM
one of tamworths new buses was on the 112 to i seen it in sutton between 11 and 11:30
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: John on November 04, 2012, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: adam 21 on November 03, 2012, 11:15:18 PM
one of tamworths new buses was on the 112 to i seen it in sutton between 11 and 11:30

would have been 3019 then, I saw it on the 116
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8151091344
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: Bob on November 04, 2012, 11:43:54 AM
Did the 112 used to be a quicker route years ago?
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: andy on November 04, 2012, 12:19:41 PM
There was an X12 for a few years which continued to either Ashby or Derby from Burton. The only difference from the current route between Lichfield and Birmingham was that it ran straight down the main road between Wood End and Mere Green and was limited stop into Birmingham. There was also more recently a 912 which extended from Lichfield to Rugeley but that wasn't limited stop. This route, along with the 110, is one of the oldest ex Midland Red routes still being operated in its original form.
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: Bob on November 04, 2012, 05:29:36 PM
Did stevensons used to run an x38 to derby & birmingham via burton & lichfield respectively?
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: andy on November 04, 2012, 05:48:11 PM
I'm not aware of the X38 going into Birmingham.
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: nx4737 on November 04, 2012, 06:04:09 PM
Quote from: andy on November 04, 2012, 05:48:11 PM
I'm not aware of the X38 going into Birmingham.

Can't recall it ever going as far as Birmingham.
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: nx4737 on November 04, 2012, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: andy on November 04, 2012, 12:19:41 PM
There was an X12 for a few years which continued to either Ashby or Derby from Burton. The only difference from the current route between Lichfield and Birmingham was that it ran straight down the main road between Wood End and Mere Green and was limited stop into Birmingham. There was also more recently a 912 which extended from Lichfield to Rugeley but that wasn't limited stop. This route, along with the 110, is one of the oldest ex Midland Red routes still being operated in its original form.

When was the 112 cut back to Lichfield? I recall it used to run through to Burton with branded Paladins.
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: andy on November 04, 2012, 06:19:01 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on November 04, 2012, 06:05:29 PM
Quote from: andy on November 04, 2012, 12:19:41 PM
There was an X12 for a few years which continued to either Ashby or Derby from Burton. The only difference from the current route between Lichfield and Birmingham was that it ran straight down the main road between Wood End and Mere Green and was limited stop into Birmingham. There was also more recently a 912 which extended from Lichfield to Rugeley but that wasn't limited stop. This route, along with the 110, is one of the oldest ex Midland Red routes still being operated in its original form.

When was the 112 cut back to Lichfield? I recall it used to run through to Burton with branded Paladins.

It was cut in half in late 2010, the Paladins still went through to Burton but changed to number 7 at Lichfield. Then shortly afterwards in 2011 Cannock took over the 112, before it passed back to Burton and now with Tamworth. The silly thing is it is now being operated by Tamworth yet is still timed within minutes of the 110. It was an ideal opportunity to retime it and spread it out amongst the 110's.
Title: Re: 112 116
Post by: Justin Tyme on November 04, 2012, 08:48:57 PM
Quote from: bob on November 04, 2012, 05:29:36 PM
Did stevensons used to run an x38 to derby & birmingham via burton & lichfield respectively?
Yes they did - it ran Derby - Burton - Lichfield - Birmingham.  It started in 1981, I think.  The story goes that Midland Red was going to withdraw the Birmingham - Lichfield section of its Burton service (then X12), and Stevensons decided to replace it with a service through to Derby.

However, Midland Red East decided that it was not going to be committed to this, and decided to keep the whole of the X12.  The X38 did start but competed with the X12.  It did well though at first, and some journeys were operated by double decks, including Dual Purpose Bristol VRTs.  The Derby - Burton section was soon reduced to Saturdays only and later went altogether.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I think the X12 and X38 were merged as 112 after Stevensons bought Midland Fox's Swadlincote garage.