Old Bus Routes

[ellspurs]

Does anyone have some info on the 192 and 194 bus route between Solihull and Coventry? What were their frequency?

I noticed that there's a google maps street view with bus stop stand near Olton Station showing 192 and 194 - was the route extended to Birmingham city centre at some point?

Depot trips to Acocks Green Garage I think. @Stu said it before somewhere.
And if you look at the 2008 streetview for the 11A stop outside the garage, thats where the 192/194 numbers start appearing on the stops.

While Yourbus was still operating, there was a time where the 192Y/194Y was extended to Birmingham City Centre, via the 37 (now 4) route from Solihull. This was at some point between 1995 and 2000. A 193Y was also introduced, which ran via Westwood Avenue in Coventry. The buses ran from New Street in Birmingham City Centre. I am unsure whether TYB had been integrated into TWM before the route was truncated.

I travelled on that route many times.

After a while, it was truncated back to Acocks Green, then ultimately just the depot trips as mentioned.

[Steveminor]

The 192Y only came to Your Bus after the takeover

[ellspurs]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/44483738@N05/8192352731

Seeing this picture surprised me. A Sunday service from Telford to Wolverhampton operated by WMT in Jan 1996? I am guessing this is a tendered service, but an established-enough one that they've updated the blinds to have Wellington on them?

[Westy]

https://www.flickr.com/photos/44483738@N05/8192352731

Seeing this picture surprised me. A Sunday service from Telford to Wolverhampton operated by WMT in Jan 1996? I am guessing this is a tendered service, but an established-enough one that they've updated the blinds to have Wellington on them?

I heard they had one, but didn't think it lasted that long.

The X92 they won at deregulation, or just before, didn't last long either.

There was a few years of new tenders being won by WMT, but being lost by the next tender round, certainly in Walsall.

Will have to think to see if there's any Walsall routes that were never operated at any point by WMT etc.

The first one that springs to mind is the evening & Sunday 8a, that was operated via Field Road in Bloxwich. That was a mixture of Arriva & Diamond ISTR.

[paulb1973]

Does anyone have some info on the 192 and 194 bus route between Solihull and Coventry? What were their frequency?

I noticed that there's a google maps street view with bus stop stand near Olton Station showing 192 and 194 - was the route extended to Birmingham city centre at some point?

I took a few trips 'all the way' from Coventry [home] to Solihull in the 1990s - so should know really. It wasn't that frequent, was going to say hourly, but wasn't even that I think.

[PB2938]

192/194 ran around every 60/70 minutes. There was generally 2 buses used but a journey time of 1hr Solihull - Coventry

Coventry departure would be 1405 1505 1615 1725.

Travel yourbus took over 192Y 194 around October 1994 using Dafs.

In June 1998 the 192Y 194Y was extended to Birmingham running hourly using 4 buses Leyland lynxs 1126 1128 1220 1278 drifted in EX Travel Merry Hill.

There was also a Varient 193Y serving Warwick University .

September 1999 would see the 192 194 Transferred yo TWM Acocks Green Garage running Coventry - Acocks Green hourly using Leyland Lynxs 3 buses.

Route 192 194 cut back to Solihull 2 buses running previous  60/70 minute frequency.

I Rode 192 194 many times Great route always single deck Lynxs then B10Ls. In the final years 2008 2009 was operated by Volvo Gemini.

Travel Coventry took over the 192/194 as new service 19W hourly January 2009. Not sure when the 19W was given up.

[ellspurs]

One more old route I've noticed from looking at photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/44483738@N05/4435032379/

94B from Birmingham City Centre to "Chelmsley Wood North" (Arran Way, Smith's Wood). It ran as the 94 from Smith's Wood to the Fox & Goose, then via Alum Rock Road to Saltley before continuing the 94 route to the city centre.

Distinctly remember catching this one on occasions either when I wanted to go to the Capitol Cinema in Pelham, or when I needed to go to the shops and you could see it waiting at the bus stand.

[paulb1973]

192/194 ran around every 60/70 minutes. There was generally 2 buses used but a journey time of 1hr Solihull - Coventry

Coventry departure would be 1405 1505 1615 1725.

Travel yourbus took over 192Y 194 around October 1994 using Dafs.

In June 1998 the 192Y 194Y was extended to Birmingham running hourly using 4 buses Leyland lynxs 1126 1128 1220 1278 drifted in EX Travel Merry Hill.

There was also a Varient 193Y serving Warwick University .

September 1999 would see the 192 194 Transferred yo TWM Acocks Green Garage running Coventry - Acocks Green hourly using Leyland Lynxs 3 buses.

Route 192 194 cut back to Solihull 2 buses running previous  60/70 minute frequency.

I Rode 192 194 many times Great route always single deck Lynxs then B10Ls. In the final years 2008 2009 was operated by Volvo Gemini.

Travel Coventry took over the service as 19W hourly January 2009. Not sure when it was given up.

I have a few notes for July 2010 and there was no 192/194 running in Cov then - just a shorter 19/19W/19X to Tile Hill South/Westwood Business Park and an 81 (plus a few variations) to Berkswell via Canley, Tile Hill South etc.

[ellspurs]

I have a few notes for July 2010 and there was no 192/194 running in Cov then - just a shorter 19/19W/19X to Tile Hill South/Westwood Business Park and an 81 (plus a few variations) to Berkswell via Canley, Tile Hill South etc.

After the 19W, it went to 82/87, where the 82 ran via the 900/X1 route to Coventry from Meriden (doing the loop in Millisons Wood), and the 87 did Coventry to Balsall Common, then to Solihull via Knowle. An 89 was introduced to cover Berkswell and some of the more finicky roads in Balsall Common and Hampton-in-Arden, becoming one of the most expensive subsidised services due to it's roaming mechanism in Meriden and Balsall Common/Berkswell.

Don't think any of these services were ran by NX, I believe they were first ran by Diamond (or Central Connect if it was pre-merger) Signature Buses, then the 82 was taken by Johnsons, merged with the X20 to now go Coventry - Stratford via Solihull.

[Steve3229vp]

After the 19W, it went to 82/87, where the 82 ran via the 900/X1 route to Coventry from Meriden (doing the loop in Millisons Wood), and the 87 did Coventry to Balsall Common, then to Solihull via Knowle. An 89 was introduced to cover Berkswell and some of the more finicky roads in Balsall Common and Hampton-in-Arden, becoming one of the most expensive subsidised services due to it's roaming mechanism in Meriden and Balsall Common/Berkswell.

Don't think any of these services were ran by NX, I believe they were first ran by Diamond (or Central Connect if it was pre-merger) Signature Buses, then the 82 was taken by Johnsons, merged with the X20 to now go Coventry - Stratford via Solihull.

NX Coventry ran the 82 before Diamond (Signature)

[Gareth]

One more old route I've noticed from looking at photos:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/44483738@N05/4435032379/

94B from Birmingham City Centre to "Chelmsley Wood North" (Arran Way, Smith's Wood). It ran as the 94 from Smith's Wood to the Fox & Goose, then via Alum Rock Road to Saltley before continuing the 94 route to the city centre.

Distinctly remember catching this one on occasions either when I wanted to go to the Capitol Cinema in Pelham, or when I needed to go to the shops and you could see it waiting at the bus stand.

I remember catching the 94B fairly often. I think it didn't last too long and something in my mind says it was renumbered 94 and used Washwood Heath Road until it was finally withdrawn. The early 90s were a very mixed and colourful time in this area of Brum. So many different operators on the Washwood Heath and Alum Rock routes. WM saw them all off apart from Claribels.

[PB2938]

Around 1997/1998 the 97 to Chelmsley Wood must of had about 5 different operators.

[DJ]

Travel Coventry took over the 192/194 as new service 19W hourly January 2009. Not sure when the 19W was given up.

There was also the 19X alongside the 19W, but I'm not sure what the difference was.

[ellspurs]

There was also the 19X alongside the 19W, but I'm not sure what the difference was.

I did another google search and found some rather interesting info:

https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/11798272 (a scraping of when the information was on Wikipedia)

The 19X ran via Charter Avenue.

[paulb1973]

I did another google search and found some rather interesting info:

https://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/11798272 (a scraping of when the information was on Wikipedia)

The 19X ran via Charter Avenue.

These are from my own notes:
19 City (Pool Meadow) - Earlsdon - Tile Hill South (via Cannon Park Shops & Canley)
19W City (Pool Meadow) - Canley - Tile Hill South
19X City (Pool Meadow) - Canley - Tile Hill South/Westwood Business Park

81 City (Pool Meadow) - Berkswell Rail Station via Tile Hill South, Burton Green & Balsall Common
81E City (Pool Meadow) - Canley - Tile Hill South - Cannon Park (via Torrington Avenue & Westwood Heath)
81W City (Pool Meadow) - Canley - Tile Hill South - Westwood Business Park

I assume this is from the Coventry Guide and various timetable leaflets.