London Buses.

[markcf83]

The operator is responsible for them.

[Tony]

Quick question for a newbie.

As TFL specifies the bus type does TFL purchase the vehicles and the operator then leases it from them?  Or does the operator take the risk, IE buying battery powered buses that may have no market outside London?

I understand the new Routemasters were an exception due to their bizarre acquisition!

Thanks

As you say, the new Routemasters are different. They were purchased by TfL and are leased to whichever operator is operating any route run by them. Other routes are up to the operator to source, but not necessarily owned by the operator. Many are owned by leasing companies like Dawsons, Lombard etc. Even Stagecoach stated it wasn't buying buses for London when it re-entered the market, so a lot of the older vehicles they use are owned, so some copuld be cascaded to other fleets, but any new vehicles taken after buying the operation back are leased, so will just return to dealers

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route        Current Operator            New Operator                PVR        Vehicles
24                Metroline                        Abellio London                 17           2013 Euro V New Routemaster
27*              London United               Abellio London                  22           2014 Euro V New Routemaster
266/N266     Metroline                       London United                  23            Existing double deck (details TBC)
267              London United               Abellio West London         17           2017 Euro VI New Routemaster
661              London Central              Stagecoach Selkent           1            2009 Euro IV diesel double deck
669              London Central              Stagecoach Selkent           2            2011 Euro V diesel double deck
672**          Stagecoach Selkent        Stagecoach Selkent           0            2012 Euro V diesel double deck

* 24 hour route.
** Uses two buses crosslinked from another route.

All Euro IV and Euro V vehicles will be upgraded to Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

7th September 2019: Route 672.
5th October 2019: Routes 661 & 669.
9th November 2019: Routes 24, 27 & 267.
7th December 2019: Route 266/N266.

[markcf83]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route        Current Operator            New Operator                PVR        Vehicles
24                Metroline                        Abellio London                 17           2013 Euro V New Routemaster
27*              London United               Abellio London                  22           2014 Euro V New Routemaster
266/N266     Metroline                       London United                  23            Existing double deck (details TBC)
267              London United               Abellio West London         17           2017 Euro VI New Routemaster
661              London Central              Stagecoach Selkent           1            2009 Euro IV diesel double deck
669              London Central              Stagecoach Selkent           2            2011 Euro V diesel double deck
672**          Stagecoach Selkent        Stagecoach Selkent           0            2012 Euro V diesel double deck

* 24 hour route.
** Uses two buses crosslinked from another route.

All Euro IV and Euro V vehicles will be upgraded to Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

7th September 2019: Route 672.
5th October 2019: Routes 661 & 669.
9th November 2019: Routes 24, 27 & 267.
7th December 2019: Route 266/N266.

I guess the 266 will go to Park Royal.

[winston]

Abellio have clearly sharpened their pencil on tender bids again.

[Tony]

Abellio have clearly sharpened their pencil on tender bids again.

Yes, noticably all with Borismasters so their bidding without vehicle purchase/rental costs is better.

[winston]

Yes, noticably all with Borismasters so their bidding without vehicle purchase/rental costs is better.

I assume it's to fill up their depots after previous tender losses, plus there's the new Southall Depot currently being built.

[markcf83]

The 267 will merely go around the corner to the other half of Fulwell garage where Abellio have a base.....

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route             Current Operator           New Operator                PVR     Vehicles
29/N29            Arriva London North       Arriva London North         36        2013 Euro V hybrid double deck
34                    Metroline                        Arriva London North         22        Hybrid double deck (details TBC)
52*                  Metroline                        Metroline                          18        2014 Euro VI hybrid double deck
102*                Arriva London North       Arriva London North         26        Hybrid double deck (details TBC)
109/N109        Abellio London                Abellio London                  26        2015 Euro VI hybrid double deck
192                  London General              Arriva London North         15        New Euro VI diesel single deck

* 24 hour route (34 at weekends only).
** Already upgraded to Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

9th November 2019: Routes 34, 102 & 192.
7th December 2019: Route 52.
11th January 2020: Route 29/N29.
1st February 2020: Route 109/N109

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route    Current Operator                          New Operator                                PVR        Vehicles
323        Stagecoach East London               Stagecoach East London                4             New electric single deck
533        N/A (new route)                             Metroline                                         3             2009 Euro V diesel single deck*
640        Metroline                                        Sullivan Buses                                 2             2011 Euro V diesel double deck*

* All Euro V vehicles will be upgraded to Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

18th May 2019: Route 533.
31st August 2019: Route 640.
11th January 2020: Route 323.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route    Current Operator                           New Operator      PVR            Vehicles

C10        Abellio London                              Abellio London       22             New electric single deck
P5          London Central                             Abellio London         9             New electric single deck

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:



21st March 2020: Route C10.

2nd May 2020: Route P5.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route     Current Operator                New Operator                PVR        Vehicles
126         Metrobus                              Metrobus                     11              2013 Euro V diesel single deck
212        Tower Transit                        London General            12               New Euro VI hybrid double deck
444        Tower Transit                        London General            11               New Electric single deck
657        London General                    London General            1                2010 Euro V diesel double deck

All Euro V vehicles will be upgraded to Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

7th March 2020: Routes 212, 444 & 657.
21st March 2020: Route 126.

[markcf83]

More gains for Northumberland Park then.

[Stuharris 6360]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route     Current Operator                New Operator                PVR        Vehicles
67          Arriva London North           London General              12         2014 Euro V New Routemasters
106        Arriva London North           London General              14         Double Deckers TBC
127        Metrobus                            Metrobus                        17         2011/2 Diesel Double Decker **
191        London General                 Arriva London North        19         2013 Euro V Double Decker *
230        Arriva London North           London General              11         Double Deckers TBC
270        London General                 Abellio London                 13        New Euro VI Hybrid Deckers
357        London General                 London General                7         Double Deckers TBC


* Already upgraded to Euro VI emissions standards.
** To be upgraded to Euro VI emissions standards.

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:

29th February 2020: Route 357.
11th April 2020: Route 127.
25th April 2020: Routes 67 & 106.
2nd May 2020: Route 191.
30th May 2020: Route 270.
20th June 2020: Route 230.

[Dylanbusboy45]

LBSL intends to enter into new contracts for the following routes with the operators listed below:

Route    Current Operator                           New Operator      PVR            Vehicles

C10        Abellio London                              Abellio London       22             New electric single deck
P5          London Central                             Abellio London         9             New electric single deck

The above contracts will commence on the following dates:
21st March 2020: Route C10.
2nd May 2020: Route P5.

And the buses chosen for these are quite a surprise, Caetano eCity Golds
https://www.route-one.net/articles/Operators/Abellio_London_is_first_UK_firm_to_order_Caetano_e_City_Gold