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Will it beat the SDA --- S/TVP ---S batches of fleetlines and nationals which added up to more than 220 buses in one registration year, not forgetting the 4 prototype metrobuses of course

I doubt it - that was 279 buses in one reg year - 6501-70; 6611-60; 6691-720; 6745-60; 6831-4; 6836-6905. IIRC this was caused by more than one factor - a) Met Camm being given 70 of Park Royal's order for Fleetlines because Park Royal was so slow (took reg P to T to deliver 120 vehicles) - b) WMPTE building up a surplus of vehicles so they could provide the shuttle bus contract from car parks to the NEC during the Motor Show. A massive amount of withdrawals  look place the next year. 

I'm guessing the full batch of 170 new electrics will replace many of the double deck fleet to 6718 (and all the non Euro 6 buses) and many of the Scanias also. 

The next order, which is likely to start delivery later this year, that I cannot give details of yet, but it will not be BYD

Thanks for the reply. When all these vehicles are in service, there will be a very large number of vehicles to be taken out of service. 

Up to fleet number E333

Thanks - 170 in total then - it will be interesting to see what future orders will comprise - electric single deckers will presumably be needed for CV in 2025? Also to see which body builders might be providing  single and double deck bodies on BYD chassis in the future. 

The current NX and London General build are the last DD BYDs Alexander Dennis are going to body

When you say current NX build, how many are in the order which will be ADL BYDs? 

Oh dear - familiar problem here at Metrobus for the Fastway services - lack of fuelling facilities results in only a few buses in operation. It appears the Health and Safety Executive has objected to planning permission for the refuelling plant owing to proximity to residential premises and a school. The handful of buses in operation are being fuelled from supplies brought in by road tankers (is this not a possibility for NXWM whilst Tyseley is out of operation)? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80ze58yxnlo

I didn't actually realise track 3 was letters only!

I'm pretty sure some of these may have been changed to numbers in the later 70s - I think I've seen a photo of a 2xx GON Fleetline on a 161 showing the correct number - presumably a Coventry Road vehicle? I think the 3781 onwards Fleetlines in Birmingham had four track blinds? 

A, B, C and D were used on most services (according to my 1967 Ian Allan British Bus Fleets no 14)! But not used on 36 and 40, for example. 56D was indeed, Washwood Heath Garage and 55D was Alum Rock Road (Sladefield Road). Other Ls were 48 (48L - Maypole via Balsall Heath) and 90 (90L - Lambeth Road (Queslett Road). 

There were lots of Js - not many Ks. There were also odd ones missing in each route - presumably where road arrangements of route arrangements had changed and the short working deleted. The multitude of short workings on the 11 and 8, had no suffix, or route number shown. 

No, Zenobe wanted three of the Z fleet into service. The three E buses are parked in Coventry garage yard fully operational with no defects.

Ok - I'm v surprised - couldn't they be pressed into service somewhere (eg BC), replace Euro 6 and enable them to be cascaded to replace non Euro 6 somewhere? I guess there are many reasons why not, and if necessary could cover as maintenance spares at CV if necessary - presumably why they're stored there. 

Just a little question, its something that struck me, in time (with Diesel Buses being phased out) will the E prefix be dropped or is it something we have to live with, a brief comparison would be as steam was Phased out D was for Diesel, E was for Electric in time with steam gone, both D & E were dropped, just a question no drama no criticism

'Pedant alert' - only the D was deleted and diesels affected from late 1968 after steam was removed - E remained otherwise there would have been overlaps in the 3001-3200 series and 5000 series. Of course, they all disappeared when the whole fleet was renumbered based on class types.  

Because that's how the contract works.

Zenobe can swap out any vehicle they wish

Im sure that, ultimately is the case, but I can't imagine this would happen without very good reason, and no doubt NXWM would be involved in that decision, if not instigate the discussion. No doubt the actual reasoning for this particular decision is commercial in confidence but I'd hazard a guess it would be something like the batteries deteriorating and causing maintenance/operational issues. 

@Wumpty @don, I seem to recall that the use of term ALF is not permitted on the forum, this has been confirmed by @Stu on a number of occassions.

My apologies, I'd forgotten. 

4722 still parked up jed in jed box @BN

New acronym, @karl724223 (jed??)

I saw that earlier, minus its front panel, but didn't want to set the ALFs off LOL!

My ALF permit excludes the farm so my reaction was not full on ALF 😵�💫😵�💫😵�💫 😀

Ain't that exactly what I posted ?????

@karl724223 back in the day when me and my mates used to venture to pubs in the deepest Black Country for a pint of Bathams and Banks's and the like, we used to have to take an interpreter with us!! I suspect that's the service @Mike K has performed for us all 😀😀

in the meantime the fake story about 2000 buses needing a recall from an anti net-zero paper will have had countless views on facebook. Depressing.

As always with the Daily Mail one has to read very carefully. Right at the end of the article it states the number of vehicles recalled correctly - after having raised incorrectly the spectre of the entire national fleet of ADL/BYD buses being faulty. Of course, that doesn't match their desired narrative of slagging off environmental activities and talking up the continuing use of fossil fuels. 

If you didn't use vegweb and looked in person you'd see it's been nowhere near those routes.

This is a bus enthusiast forum so why get irritated when bus enthusiasts ask questions (this one appears quite reasonable - I don't recall NXWM having had a bus travelling around reporting as another).

Bustimes is one of the most useful bits of software for bus passengers (and enthusiasts) ever invented - a couple of idiots who seem to pride themselves in referring to it by derogatory names and also bus enthusiasts as veg and the like is irritating beyond belief, and actually conflicts with the forum rules (which were placed there when a couple of other people years ago swallowed the authoritarian dictator potion and spent time moaning about other members and naming and shaming staff).

I'm sure the forum staff can deal with these things but @Jack these posts moaning about other members are very tiresome.