Centro use an automatic system to create their bus timetable and it does occasionally go wrong...
Here is an example from the Bus Stop at Heath Crescent, Mercer Avenue in Stoke Heath, Coventry
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Have you spotted any?
I spot the mistake it says route operated by national express when it should say route operated by Dr who
The end bus stop on Frampton way in Pheasey has 997 on the flag (the opposite side to meadow view school) which it does not serve!
At the 11C stop on Stockfield Road (Swan Island), for some reason it used to show a separate 11A timetable from the main one, and according to the little chart it took six minutes to get from Westley Road to City Hospital :o
Also, I recall an 11A stop on Sandon Road near Bearwood, where the little chart claimed it was only five minutes to get to Selly Oak Bristol Road, which I always thought was a little ambitious! ;)
Weren't both of those grs timetables. If so then they were probably accurate to what grs was doing lol
Stop AC on Stafford Street in Wolverhampton. They've placed a new shelter in but an old timetable as it shows Travel Express on the 11 and the 70 timetable is still up. The other two shelters have been replaced and correct info on display.
Also the bus stop pole on Castlecroft Road, Castlecroft Gardens towards Castlecroft has been missing for nearly 4 weeks since a car hit it.
The 55/94 bus stop on Priory Queensway still shows 'buses towards Bromford Bridge' from when the 72 used that stop for a few days when they first moved. Similarly the 56/70/72 stop has wording for the 55/94. It's only been about 3 years.
Whilst waiting for the X16 in Coventry today, I noticed something incorrect on the timetable poster. See here (http://i.imgur.com/IJTuDI9.jpg) - yeah, good luck with that lol... ::)
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 27, 2015, 11:27:58 PM
Whilst waiting for the X16 in Coventry today, I noticed something incorrect on the timetable poster. See here (http://i.imgur.com/IJTuDI9.jpg) - yeah, good luck with that lol... ::)
Now that's the definition of an express service
Knew this thread existed somewhere ...
Just want to share what I found in the bus stop on Nechells Park Road / Holborn Hill, Birmingham ... A poster from 21st July 2014 advertising a new 62C service around Dunstall Hill, Wolverhampton...
Quote from: Kevin on January 05, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Knew this thread existed somewhere ...
Just want to share what I found in the bus stop on Nechells Park Road / Holborn Hill, Birmingham ... A poster from 21st July 2014 advertising a new 62C service around Dunstall Hill, Wolverhampton...
Which no longer operates and hasn't for a long while...
Quote from: Kevin on January 05, 2016, 01:06:00 PM
Knew this thread existed somewhere ...
Just want to share what I found in the bus stop on Nechells Park Road / Holborn Hill, Birmingham ... A poster from 21st July 2014 advertising a new 62C service around Dunstall Hill, Wolverhampton...
Similar to the one I saw in Coventry yesterday. At the new stops on Corporation Street there is a bus stop flag pole with the 71/72/966 does not stop here anymore, now stop on Station Street.
Also none of the new totem poles at the new Coventry Station interchange were displaying their routes. All of them said stop not in use, and buses seemed to be using any of the 3 to stop at
You'd think that if they're going to recycle old bus shelters, they'd at least take the old posters off. ::)
Or stop sticking up notices printed on that vinyl stuff that's impossible to remove. ;)
Slightly off topic but whoes idea was it to put black bus stop flags on the platinum routes?!
They're hard to see at night and reflect no light!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on January 10, 2016, 08:52:12 PM
Slightly off topic but whoes idea was it to put black bus stop flags on the platinum routes?!
They're hard to see at night and reflect no light!
Lets hope they last longer than the blue & white ones as they get faded after so long.
Stafford Street, The Prince Northbound out of Walsall is a good example.
Quote from: Westy on January 10, 2016, 09:59:30 PM
Lets hope they last longer than the blue & white ones as they get faded after so long.
Stafford Street, The Prince Northbound out of Walsall is a good example.
Something similar has been agreed for a multi-operator scheme in Burton, but with white bands at the top/bottom to increase visibility in the dark.
Bus stop on Welsh House Farm Road for the 636 is still there.... Despite the route now numbered 99 and not actually serving that part of the road
Quote from: Kevin on January 28, 2016, 10:18:45 AM
Bus stop on Welsh House Farm Road for the 636 is still there.... Despite the route now numbered 99 and not actually serving that part of the road
Reported to relevant Centro person. Should be changed to a 'Bus Stop not in use' flag vert soon
Quote from: Tony on January 28, 2016, 02:17:28 PM
Reported to relevant Centro person. Should be changed to a 'Bus Stop not in use' flag vert soon
The stop on Frampton way pheasey by the Doe Bank lane junction heading towards city as 997 listed when it actually goes up Gainsborough Avenue and misses that stop!
Also the stop outside Barr Beacon school only has 25 and 934 (936 also stops here)
Fallowfield/ Daffodil avenue, (934) since the flags were changed for platinum ones they have got rid of "and opposite" but people still wait on the opposite side.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on January 28, 2016, 04:15:04 PM
The stop on Frampton way pheasey by the Doe Bank lane junction heading towards city as 997 listed when it actually goes up Gainsborough Avenue and misses that stop!
Also the stop outside Barr Beacon school only has 25 and 934 (936 also stops here)
Fallowfield/ Daffodil avenue, (934) since the flags were changed for platinum ones they have got rid of "and opposite" but people still wait on the opposite side.
Those have all now been reported, so should be corrected soon
The information pillar at the corner of Vincent Drive / Pritchatts Road is the wrong way round. The side with the arrow on directing you to the QE actually leads you to Vale Village and vice versa
Quote from: uniquicity on January 29, 2016, 02:14:24 PM
The information pillar at the corner of Vincent Drive / Pritchatts Road is the wrong way round. The side with the arrow on directing you to the QE actually leads you to Vale Village and vice versa
Centro's van man is going to be busy.
That one is on the list to correct as well now
And the platinum flag had already blown off the doe bank lane stop last week, I'm not sure if it's been put back!
For reference, problems with Centro-maintained bus stops and shelters can be reported using the Network West Midlands 'Fix-It' service:
http://networkwestmidlands.com/comments/fixit.aspx
So is it worth reporting the faded ones or not?
Quote from: Westy on January 29, 2016, 07:12:13 PM
So is it worth reporting the faded ones or not?
The amount of faded ones around here, better just for them all to be replaced.
Noticed on Tuesday that the 67 towards the City Centre/71 towards Solihull/38 stop near the JLR and Spitfire Island, the last stop before getting to the Chester Road on Tangmere Drive has a notice up for a new 62C route in Wolverhampton from 2014.
Whilst waiting an agonising 10 minutes for an 11A this afternoon in Acocks Green, noticed that the real-time display in the Westley Road stop was still showing timetabled departure for the 40 service (now withdrawn).
The stop on the end of Station Street reads 87, under the 10H and 126 stickers above..
Arriva are quite bad the last time I was at landywood the timetable listed the 68 still!
There's a few stops on the 10 in the Staffordshire part where there aren't actually any physical bus stop markings or shelters!
Holly Lane Marion Rd in Smethwick towards Bearwood completely missing timetable info for 48/50A
The 110/902/904/905 stop at Erdington Six Ways towards Sutton doesn't have 905 on the flag.
The bus stop on Jockey Road outside the Horse & Jockey towards New Oscott has "15" on the stop flag instead of 5.
The new style electronic bus stop just past Eagle Street on Foleshill Road, coming out of Coventry, does not display the 48 on the tiles (it does on the next bus screen on the opposite side). It does display the 53 school service, however.
Also, the map for the 48 on the Trinity Street TS3 stand is confusing, it completely omits Leicester (Plus the Sunday Tamworth runs and the single weekday Kingsbury run - although I suppose they can be forgiven) and shows the 48 as going Coventry - Foleshill - Longford - Bedworth - Nuneaton - Hinckley - Atherstone - Hinckley.
The electronic display on TS3 also shows the 21:35 57 as terminating at Nuneaton, when it infact terminates at the Cross Keys pub in Bedworth.
I've noticed that the stops for the 5 on Everdon Road haven't been taken out yet either - I even spotted a Gemini going up there one night after the changes had taken place - I think somebody forgot! :P
Quote from: Ally on August 18, 2016, 08:48:51 PM
I've noticed that the stops for the 5 on Everdon Road haven't been taken out yet either - I even spotted a Gemini going up there one night after the changes had taken place - I think somebody forgot! :P
@Ally Quote from: Adam 404 on July 21, 2016, 08:44:02 PM
The loss of service in Everdon Road has been reversed until a review in September. Therefore the 5 service will continue to serve here.
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 18, 2016, 09:11:58 PM
@Ally
Ah thank you for pointing that one out to me, I missed that post! I noticed it's been removed on the Network map though...
As has the Stagecoach 55 entirely
Quote from: Ally on August 18, 2016, 10:51:38 PM
Ah thank you for pointing that one out to me, I missed that post! I noticed it's been removed on the Network map though...
As has the Stagecoach 55 entirely
The 43 is completely missed as well
Waited a while for the 86 in Coventry Hales St today at stop HS1 as marked on the flag.
Didnt know the 86 now picks up from Sainsburys Trinity St stop TS2. Doohhh!
Come on Centro, keep up with the bucket load of changes that are happening!
Quote from: Sandy Lane on August 22, 2016, 09:55:23 PM
Waited a while for the 86 in Coventry Hales St today at stop HS1 as marked on the flag.
Didnt know the 86 now picks up from Sainsburys Trinity St stop TS2. Doohhh!
Come on Centro, keep up with the bucket load of changes that are happening!
The 86 changed again and seems to pick up at both stops from my observations.
Some services may be avoiding the Hales St stop by going through Bishop St to get onto the flyover whilst Cox St is shut (for 9 wks)
At least one timetable shown on a 529 stop, implies a 10 hour gap in services Mon-Fri. (Churchill Rd, E. bound)
One I only just noticed yesterday on the way to work:
The stop on Aston Road North, just before Aston Cross outbound, still has the 115 on the flag.
Stand SH at Swan Island (next to New Inn) has got 59 and 59A on the flag, but neither of those stop there!
Is the 16 still meant to stop at Priory Queensway? Because on the board it only says 74. But the 16 driver still stopped there, I asked him and he said it still stops there?
Queslett Road, by the Asda
Bus stop info poster has a section of "bus fares from this stop" mentioning the £1 city hop fare (no use out here) and daysavers but not the normal single fare
Thing is, it's printed on with the 5 timetable underneath so someone somewhere has deliberately added it when it went to print
Not sure if it's been rectified yet, but 101 had been showing at the MS5 stop (outside Boots) on Moor Street Queensway. Return of CentreBus 101? Haha
Not a mistake as such, but when they print the timetables for services such as the Dudley to Walsall 11 & 13, when there is a competing service like the Thandi 311 & 313, why is there one composite timetable featuring the 11, 13 & the 311, but the 313 is on a separate timetable?
Surely the timetable display should be arranged so that all 4 services should be on the same timetable or split 11 & 311 on one timetable & 13 & 313 on the other timetable?
I just noticed something recently but the 11A stop outside the depot, only shows it going up the village. As in the diagram which shows the ETA for stops along the route (i.e Swan Centre XX minutes, Fox & Goose XX minutes etc...). I would have thought it would show at least half way round the circle ? Some other 11 (Both A/C) stops show the entire route.
Quote from: clayderman on January 05, 2017, 07:40:01 PM
Not sure if it's been rectified yet, but 101 had been showing at the MS5 stop (outside Boots) on Moor Street Queensway. Return of CentreBus 101? Haha
Not rectified. In fact, it now shows the 07:42 departure to Handsworth (or as it shows, "The Leverretts")
Quote from: clayderman on January 05, 2017, 07:40:01 PM
Not sure if it's been rectified yet, but 101 had been showing at the MS5 stop (outside Boots) on Moor Street Queensway. Return of CentreBus 101? Haha
Haha yeah I saw this. I thought I was seeing things.
Coventry, Trinity Street Stop TS3 has multiple errors...
RTI Screen:
2041 48 Coventry (So it terminates at it's origin point?).
2135 57 Bedworth (Should say "Cross Keys" as "Bedworth" confuses people).
Map/Timetable Info:
48 map has Leicester and Tamworth omitted and no branch offs, it shows it as running to Hinckley via Hinckley and Atherstone.
Whole stop:
Service 17B is completely non existent on there.
The outbound YW49 (Shares it with 5, 6 & 76) stop in Solihull (Town) states that it takes roughly 70 minutes to get to Northfield but it actually takes 90 minutes easily ! I've kind of had to make Northfield bound journeys from Solihull during the past week (Its 1 long ass for starters) but the running times are such that the bus doesn't really stop. It's literally driving continuously for 90 minutes (Only exception is for relief at Maypole Island).
Based on first trip of the day
In the last week or so there appears to be quite a few bus stops in Coventry where the RTI is not working? Is there an area problem or was I just unlucky? What is the situ in Birmingham & Wolverhampton as I think they all use the same system?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 01, 2017, 11:01:26 PM
In the last week or so there appears to be quite a few bus stops in Coventry where the RTI is not working? Is there an area problem or was I just unlucky? What is the situ in Birmingham & Wolverhampton as I think they all use the same system?
The RTI at New Invention Square is more often not working than working whenever I see it.
Presumably there's some deficient software or unreliable hardware used for these RTI displays.
Just noticed this morning that on the stop just before the island at Aston Cross heading out of City still has the 115 on the flag, and it's been gone 18 months! I guess it may have been left out when the bridge was closed back then
On the Real time at Birmingham Airport there is an X1 to Chelmsley Wood in 15 minutes!
99 still there despite upcoming changes
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Usually changed the week before changes happen so technically it's still correct
Well surely they can't take 99 off of the stops until the day itself to avoid confusion. Which is why I'm surprised to see X64 on there.
Quote from: karl724223 on April 09, 2017, 07:04:29 PM
Usually changed the week before changes happen so technically it's still correct
No its not.
Until 23/04/17 the 98 and 99 serve that stop.
After 23/04/17 the 98 and X64 serve that stop.
Its been changed the X64 has been added, but the 99 hasn't been removed.
They added 142 to the stops between the QE and Harborne 3 weeks before it was extended to the QE Hospital.
anyone else's trackers not working?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 14, 2017, 09:52:50 AM
anyone else's trackers not working?
NXWM app not showing real time but the first bus app works for all buses across the country
Bus stops from Chelmsley wood - Sutton Coldfield still dont say 71A on there flags
The two stops by the Red Lion on All Saints Way west brom are showing the wrong information on the display : the 5 & 46 stop is showing info for services 4,40 & 45 and vice versa.
A little picky; there's a stop in Digbeth (near the O2 Institute) with RTI that I've seen display "X1 Chelmsley Wood"
Quote from: clayderman on April 15, 2017, 04:18:45 PM
A little picky; there's a stop in Digbeth (near the O2 Institute) with RTI that I've seen display "X1 Chelmsley Wood"
They all do, and so does the NX app, for the X1 journeys to Birmingham Business Park.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on April 14, 2017, 09:52:50 AM
anyone else's trackers not working?
That's because it's not a Monday to Friday service!
Quote from: Dom on April 15, 2017, 06:18:19 PM
That's because it's not a Monday to Friday service!
No, the complete tracking system failed for a time yesterday morning
Quote from: Tony on April 15, 2017, 06:34:08 PM
No, the complete tracking system failed for a time yesterday morning
Oh really? I thought because it was Saturday service on a weekday the tracking doesn't work for some reason.
Stop SH4 on Livery Street is displaying 22S on there now.
Quote from: Dom on April 15, 2017, 07:05:16 PM
Oh really? I thought because it was Saturday service on a weekday the tracking doesn't work for some reason.
Yes, Really! - It was working all afternoon.
You don't think NX put Bank Holiday schedules into the system?
AVL still need to know if buses are late on bank Holidays
Quote from: Tony on April 17, 2017, 01:31:40 PM
Yes, Really! - It was working all afternoon.
You don't think NX put Bank Holiday schedules into the system?
AVL still need to know if buses are late on bank Holidays
I was told they didn't work bank holidays or sundays, they didn't adjust an 89 which was 45 mins late!
There are two stops on Hagley road west after the roundabout for Quinton Church heading towards Birmingham which show the 54A but not the 54.
The bus stop on the middle of Turnberry Road says "And Opposite", although the 52A doesn't serve the opposite side of the road.
The timetable at the Heathland Avenue stop towards Sutton on Bradford Road on the 71, has two NXWM timetables on it, one that shows Solihull - Sutton Coldifield (though it no longer serves Solihull), one that shows Chelmsley Wood - Sutton Coldfield and no Diamond Sunday Daytimes timetable.
Also the flags at Saltley Gate towards the City Centre and Heathland Avenue on Bradford Road towards Chelmsley still have 70 on them, though none of the other stops the 70 serves do and they shouldn't have it on the flags because it is a school route.
Thinking about it, I think the northbound bus stop in Green Lane Walsall, just past the Sally Army is wrong slightly as well.
While the Cannock X51s going southbound on the opposite side of the road, is correct as far as being unload only, the northbound journeys run via Littleton St & Court Way, to turn right by the old police station instead.
The Booths Farm Road, Foden Road Stop's flag only shows the 424, however, the 52A serves it. The timetable doesn't show the 52A either.
Remember, you need to report problems with timetables etc at bus stops to NWM using the form here:
https://www.networkwestmidlands.com/get-in-touch/report-a-problem/
Bus Stop outside High Bullen Wednesbury towards Darlaston still stays 38 on Flag even though that has been withdrawn they managed to remove the 75 from there though all the other stops bar that one say out of use
Quote from: BusFan94 on July 16, 2017, 01:03:30 PM
Bus Stop outside High Bullen Wednesbury towards Darlaston still stays 38 on Flag even though that has been withdrawn they managed to remove the 75 from there though all the other stops bar that one say out of use
Do you mean the stop by the shops on Trouse Lane? As that one has the 38 displayed on it still.
@BusFan94
Quote from: Jack B on July 16, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
Do you mean the stop by the shops on Trouse Lane? As that one has the 38 displayed on it still. @BusFan94
Slightly off topic, but nice sandwich shop there!
Quote from: Jack B on July 16, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
Do you mean the stop by the shops on Trouse Lane? As that one has the 38 displayed on it still. @BusFan94
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Yes I do my dad calls it High Bullen
At the Birmingham Airport Bus Terminal one of the stands is still advertising the NX 966.
There is no timetable and no timetable case at the Water Orton Road, Whateley Green stops in both directions on the X12 route.
There is no timetable and no timetable case at the Water Orton Road, Marlborough Rd stop towards the City Centre on the X12 route.
The Hassop Road, Grindleford Road stop, outbound heading up to the terminus, has had its timetables display door swung open and its timetable gone missing.
Stop MS3 has had 98 re-added to it but is missing X64
Quote from: MasterPlan on March 23, 2018, 07:31:50 AM
Stop MS3 has had 98 re-added to it but is missing X64
Maybe that's the express bit of the X64
Quote from: Kevin on March 23, 2018, 07:52:09 AM
Maybe that's the express bit of the X64
Or maybe it's a hint of what's to come from the South Birmingham review.
(Probably not though).
One for NX Coventry. Website says
Tuesday 20th February 2018 for an unknown period.
Due to the traffic management used for repairs to the Ring Road the bus stops (CU1 and CU2) on Gosford Street have been suspended
No temporary bus stops will be used due to the road layout in the area.
Please use the bus stops on Cox Street (CU3 and CU5) while Gosford Street bus stops are not in use.
Today both stops CU1 and CU2 are in use again. Drivers are becoming aware but website needs updating.
The Birmingham Road, Cross Lane outbound stop for the 51 and 424 is missing its flag.
Stand A, B and C's digital screens aren't working at Walsall Bus Station.
The Booths Farm Road, Perry Wood Road Stop only has the 424/E on the flag, the 52A should also be on the flag, 52A is on the timetable, however.
Bromford Drive, Sandown Road inbound Stop is missing its timetable for the 25, X12/70.
Hatfield Road outbound stop on Birchfield Road still has 52 and 52A on the flag.
For long out-of-date bus stops, Johnsons service 87 could be of interest.
On Kenilworth Road, Balsall Common, in the Solihull direction buses call at a Heart of England Services stop dating back to the mid 1980s.
Even better are some bus stops in Burton Green. This village was in Solihull Borough from 1974 until 1994 and then was transferred to Warwick District Council, so it has a mixture of old WMPTE and Centro stops, and Warwickshire County Council timetable cases.
One stop in Burton Green has the route numbers 24, 34 and 44, which were used for Coventry - Balsall Common WMPTE services in the late 70s and early 80s! Fortunately for passengers, it also has an up-to-date Warwickshire CC departure list.
The X50 stop outbound at Stratford Road/Walford Road says towards Gospel Oak...
It's in the new WMCA format too.
The stop next to it lists the 4, 4A, 5 & 6 and says towards Hall Green despite the 4 & 4A not going in Hall Green.
A few errors in the Solihull area:
Old Lode Lane, Hobs Moat Road stop towards Solihull has no flag at all on the bus stop.
The stop the 4 uses in Solihull Town Centre on Poplar Road (Towards Birmingham) still says "62 Warwickshire College" on the flag - though Stagecoach withdrew this route years ago now and since then they've updated the same flag to show "4 Birmingham (Updated from 37".
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on August 31, 2018, 11:03:51 PM
Should be S1. I have reported this via the website but nothing seems to have been done...
I also see this is still the same and has still not been corrected - the second stop from the bottom of Station Road outside Solihull Railways station still says "S16 Damsonwood", when the S16 neither serves the Station or Damsonwood. It should say S1.
23/24 diverted route via bath row; noticed that centro has put the wrong flagsbon stops put up 'n' ones instead of west midlands bus
Quote from: Ginger66 on September 07, 2018, 07:46:55 PM
23/24 diverted route via bath row; noticed that centro has put the wrong flagsbon stops put up 'n' ones instead of west midlands bus
What's wrong with that? I'd welcome the blue ones other the new cheap things!
What bus stops are supposed to go up now?
I thought the WMB ones were for the joint routes only for now, while the blue & white ones were for other routes not involved?
Quote from: Westy on September 08, 2018, 02:36:42 PM
What bus stops are supposed to go up now?
I thought the WMB ones were for the joint routes only for now, while the blue & white ones were for other routes not involved?
As has previously been stated several times, the 'new design' flags will be put up as existing flags need to be replaced on an ongoing basis over the next few years, rather than change them all at once. Doing it in this transitional way keeps the cost down to the taxpayer, which I welcome, but there will be others complaining about how it is a 'waste of money'.
Quote from: Stu on September 08, 2018, 02:48:50 PM
As has previously been stated several times, the 'new design' flags will be put up as existing flags need to be replaced on an ongoing basis over the next few years, rather than change them all at once. Doing it in this transitional way keeps the cost down to the taxpayer, which I welcome, but there will be others complaining about how it is a 'waste of money'.
I think that's sensible. However the X50 stop in Sparkbrook says Towards Gospel Oak on it. The X50 is the only route serving this stop.
The amount of mistakes TfWM seem to have made the past few months has been absolutely ridiculous. I think TfWM are the waste of money here.
There are several bus stops around Kingswinford, Brierley Hill and merry hill with the old numbers still on it haha
The 58 stop at Yardley, Swan towards Solihull doesn't have a timetable up for the 58 in it and instead it has timetables up for the Coventry Road services (60/X1/X2). There was a valid timetable up at that stop for the 58 only about 2 weeks ago, but somebody seems to have removed it and replaced it with timetables for the Coventry Road services.
There is no timetable or timetable case at the York Street stop on Harborne High Street towards Birmingham City Centre.
The stop at Bloxwich Leisure Centre southbound is still showing the 301 & 302 information.
Quote from: MW on September 08, 2018, 02:55:03 PM
I think that's sensible. However the X50 stop in Sparkbrook says Towards Gospel Oak on it. The X50 is the only route serving this stop.
The amount of mistakes TfWM seem to have made the past few months has been absolutely ridiculous. I think TfWM are the waste of money here.
I don't think its a case of making mistakes, just not checking the finer details when it comes to updating databases. Presumably for flag data, there is a database entry for each stop which lists the route numbers served, the stop name and the 'towards' line data. Whoever has updated the database has correctly changed the route numbers to be shown, but has not updated the 'towards' information.
There is also a stop on Showell Green Lane just before the junction with Yardley Wood Road, which now correctly shows the 5 on the flag, but still shows "Towards Yardley Wood", which was correct for when the 2 stopped there, but is now inaccurate as the 5 doesn't go to Yardley Wood.
To be honest, as the X50 only runs a few trips on a Sunday, I'm not sure why it has stops to itself at Palmerston Road / Stoney Lane anyway.
I don't know if this is the app or the bus stop exactly but the live times on stop BS8 do not reflect what the app says anymore. Which is wrong?
The new stops on Highfield Lane for the 24 do not show the 10H and 10S
Whilst not technically "incorrect", the bus stop at the Merrivale (Langley) towards Oldbury/West Bromwich shows the 12 & 13 on the same timetable, as if to say they follow the same route to Oldbury. When in actual fact, the 12 goes via The Crosswells/Langley Primary School, and the 13 via Tat Bank Road to get to Oldbury
Quote from: Sh4318 on November 09, 2018, 11:43:33 PM
Whilst not technically "incorrect", the bus stop at the Merrivale (Langley) towards Oldbury/West Bromwich shows the 12 & 13 on the same timetable, as if to say they follow the same route to Oldbury. When in actual fact, the 12 goes via The Crosswells/Langley Primary School, and the 13 via Tat Bank Road to get to Oldbury
I've noticed a fair few instances of this elsewhere, can't think of any of the top of my head, but where multiple routes go the same general direction they seem to be grouping them together on the timetable more, makes a lot of sense to me
Quote from: Kevin on November 10, 2018, 08:29:25 AM
I've noticed a fair few instances of this elsewhere, can't think of any of the top of my head, but where multiple routes go the same general direction they seem to be grouping them together on the timetable more, makes a lot of sense to me
The problem with the example quoted above, of the 12 and 13, is that they take a different route along the way, and are identified in the list of departure times by colour - not something necessarily easy to distinguish in poor light, or if the print has faded, or if one has less than perfect vision.
The Birmingham-bound bus stop on Bristnall Hall Road (Bristnall Hall Lane) still has a blue flag, and shows the 48A & 128, rather than the 13 & 48A
Quote from: Smethwickian on November 10, 2018, 08:37:00 AM
The problem with the example quoted above, of the 12 and 13, is that they take a different route along the way, and are identified in the list of departure times by colour - not something necessarily easy to distinguish in poor light, or if the print has faded, or if one has less than perfect vision.
Agreed. I think it would be ok if the differences between the two routes were explained, but they're not, so it can be seen as misleading
Are 'faded signs allowed?
If so, the 18 stop outside YW garage needs replacing, I noticed yesterday.
Stop nwmajtmp on the A41 still has '37' on the sign, rather than 4 and 4A.
Cinder bank island Dudley on blowers green road still has 243 on the flag
Quote from: StourValley98 on November 12, 2018, 07:47:49 AM
Stop nwmajtmp on the A41 still has '37' on the sign, rather than 4 and 4A.
If that's one of the 'trial' electronic flags, then yes, they were never updated. Can't remember if I ever reported those to Network West Midlands or not!
Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2018, 06:21:15 PM
If that's one of the 'trial' electronic flags, then yes, they were never updated. Can't remember if I ever reported those to Network West Midlands or not!
I'm pretty sure it's one with the electronic bit on one side and actual numbers on the other, but I could be wrong.
Quote from: Stu on November 12, 2018, 06:21:15 PM
If that's one of the 'trial' electronic flags, then yes, they were never updated. Can't remember if I ever reported those to Network West Midlands or not!
Quote from: StourValley98 on November 15, 2018, 12:19:43 PM
I'm pretty sure it's one with the electronic bit on one side and actual numbers on the other, but I could be wrong.
Couple of those examples still mention the 83 along Dudley Road! (last time I checked)
Quote from: CL on November 15, 2018, 02:32:49 PM
Couple of those examples still mention the 83 along Dudley Road! (last time I checked)
The one on Trouse Lane in Wednesbury still has 38 and 313 (I think) on it, the 38 definitely is.
Quote from: Jack on November 15, 2018, 04:18:52 PM
The one on Trouse Lane in Wednesbury still has 38 and 313 (I think) on it, the 38 definitely is.
It still had the 313 on there as of August this year according to Street View. It would've been sorta accurate for a time since Thandi did operate a 313 I guess, but it would've been missing the 13 at the time, and now the 11A.
(https://i.imgur.com/RhxYWRS.png)
The shelter on Kingstanding Circle is still missing its flag.
The stop on Haddon Road stop on Thornbridge Avenue says "towards Great Barr" instead of "Both Directions".
Anyone had a Facebook post saying "Transport for West Midlands are inviting you to take part in their 'At Stop Bus Passenger Information' Survey"?
Sadly even Transport For West Midlands can't get it right as they include a picture of a Platinum bus displaying "900 Coventry"