We could do with a general thread for Stagecoach.
Here is some more on the takeover of PRS later this month:
http://www.coventryobserver.co.uk/2014/04/03/news-Stagecoach-takes-over-city-park-and-ride-102782.html
Stagecoach buses in Coventry seen sporting little orange stickers in windscreen saying fares are going to be revised this weekend.
Quote from: JoNi on April 04, 2014, 02:21:44 PM
Stagecoach buses in Coventry seen sporting little orange stickers in windscreen saying fares are going to be revised this weekend.
I'm particularly sad that the DayRider Gold is going up again, now to £8.25 (£4.15 on Sundays).
The service and investment from this company is absolutely great on the whole, but travelling any distance is rather expensive to say the least!
this new route registration from VOSA today seems an odd one to me but it's really good to see Stagecoach expanding further into Leicestershire.
PD0000479/288 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Nuneaton
Finish Point: Fosse Park
Via:
Service Number: 10
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 02-JUN-2014
Other Details: Monday-Saturday approx every 20 minutes Nuneaton - Hinckley with hourly extension to Fosee Park
had a look around stagecoach midlands leamington spa depot today really enjoyed it pictures will be on flickr
Quote from: nxwmbusfan1999 on April 13, 2014, 01:40:12 PM
had a look around stagecoach midlands leamington spa depot today really enjoyed it pictures will be on flickr
Some good pictures there!
I especially like the old Olly displaying 'Leamington X17'.
part and part 2 are on youtube
16617 Unibus Liveried Olympian was on the X17 today.
Quote from: jc on April 14, 2014, 08:37:13 PM
16617 Unibus Liveried Olympian was on the X17 today.
Cracking spot, quite a contrast with the Enviro200s normally on there.
There are a couple of X17 workings in the evening which are double deck as they work off other running cards. At least one on a Saturday is a Unibus E400.
Quote from: http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/?alert=bus-timetable-changes-20-april-2014
SERVICE U17
COVENTRY – UNIVERSITY OF WARWICK – LEAMINGTON - SYDENHAM
Stagecoach - Revised timetable and route
Service U17 on Sundays is revised to operate via Coventry Park & Ride. The frequency is now every 20 minutes throughout the year. Mondays to Saturdays unchanged. Please contact Stagecoach on 0845 600 1314 for further details.
Quote from: http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/?alert=bus-timetable-changes-26-april-2014
SERVICES X15/X18
COVENTRY – KENILWORTH – LEAMINGTON – WARWICK/BISHOPS TACHBROOK – WELLESBOURNE - STRATFORD
Stagecoach - Revised timetable and route
These services are revised and operate via Coventry Park & Ride, there are timetable changes as a result of this route change. Please contact Stagecoach on 0845 600 1314 for further details.
SERVICE X16
COVENTRY – KENILWORTH – LEEK WOOTTON – WARWICK - STRATFORD
Stagecoach - Revised timetable , route and service number
This service is revised and operates via Coventry Park & Ride. Service 16 is renumbered to Service X16 and there are timetable changes as a result of this route change. The additional journeys between Kenilworth and Coventry are withdrawn, please see Service 86 for a replacement. Please contact Stagecoach on 0845 600 1314 for further details.
SERVICES X17/X19
COVENTRY – KENILWORTH – LEAMINGTON – WARWICK HOSPITAL - WARWICK
Stagecoach - Revised timetable and route
Most journeys now operate as Service X17 and via Coventry Park & Ride with resultant timetable changes. Please contact Stagecoach on 0845 600 1314 for further details.
SERVICE 86
RUGBY – WOLSTON – BINLEY WOODS - COVENTRY – KENILWORTH
Stagecoach - Revised timetable and route
This service is revised and is extended from Coventry to Kenilworth every 30 minutes via Whitley and replace the journeys withdrawn on Service 16. There are timetable changes as a result of this route change. Please contact Stagecoach on 0845 600 1314 for further details.
I certainly didn't see the last of these coming!
Okay so it seems that the X16 will be running from Stratford to Willenhall and Binley!
So this must be the replacement for the 27.
The journey one way is just under two hours in length.
Let's hope that passengers around the Binley area don't get confused between the 16, 16A and X16 ... far from being an express service, the X16 will by far be the slowest of them to the city!
EDIT: The full timetables for these services have now been published on Stagecoach website.
Quote from: JPC on April 14, 2014, 11:56:19 PM
Yeah, Midland Red South "Metro" introduced a service T to Rowley Drive around 1993 then added a variant service R (peak direct journeys) some time later. The T initially covered The Mount, Abbey Road, Middle Ride and Yarningale Rd. Chace and Stonehouse were added to the route at a later stage. (Was the T and R subsidised in any part?)
Before service T Rowley Drive had a 9B service ran by Vanguard (a company also mopped up by Stagecoach) running via Hillfields, Binley Road, Ernesford Grange and Chace Ave, shorter service 9 journeys terminated at Chace Ave.
Services 9/9B and T "rubbed shoulders" for a while around 1993/4 but Chace was seemingly added to service T when the 9/9B was dropped and Stonehouse Estate got a new bus service.
The T and R may have lasted into Stagecoach days briefly, but ended up being morphed into supported service A1 then 11 then 3A then 27 ;)
EDIT:
The outcome of this is rather disappointing considering the idea I had (no grudge against Stagecoach).
Stagecoach service X16 (renumbered from 16) is now confirmed as being extended to Toll Bar End Willenhall (seemingly not serving Toll Bar End) to replace the 27 creating a direct link to Corporation St and Warwick Road so... it's nearly as good as I had hoped for. :)
And finally... potential confusion for London Road where journeys towards Stratford will be heading towards Coventry. ;)
Buses towards Rugby will also be heading in roughly the opposite direction on the 86 around the London Road area!
Imagine seeing an 86 and a 580 both towards Rugby heading in almost opposite directions around the island near JLR Whitley.
The 86 may also confuse Kenilworthers if they aren't aware that it goes through Coventry first as well.
I really hope that they do the displays well: imagine seeing an X16 leaving Stratford displaying just 'Binley' or 'Willenhall', perhaps thinking the latter is the one in Birmingham!
One thing I have to wonder about is why the Stonehouse Estate is deemed to need a bus service when other places, just as far away from the nearest 'main bus route' (in this case the 21) do not have a service.
NB: I'm not complaining about this, just curious as to why certain areas are supported and others are not.
I'm not sure about the etiquette of replying on a different thread, but figured that this post would belong here most since it is mainly about Stagecoach.
I found the Stagey network more & more confusing after all those recent changes...
Now it seems like the Coventry-Stratford link exists with loads of different numbers which will need some time to be identified. And I agree that it'll be a great surprise to see a 86 running into Kenilworth, while it's been the Coventry-Rugby link for years. Yet at the end of the day it's nice to see a more complete network between the different towns around Warwickshire.
Quote from: F37 XOF on April 18, 2014, 06:34:13 PM
I found the Stagey network more & more confusing after all those recent changes...
Now it seems like the Coventry-Stratford link exists with loads of different numbers which will need some time to be identified. And I agree that it'll be a great surprise to see a 86 running into Kenilworth, while it's been the Coventry-Rugby link for years. Yet at the end of the day it's nice to see a more complete network between the different towns around Warwickshire.
I agree - the Stagecoach group of services out of Coventry are threatening to get very confusing for passengers. The extension of the 86 to Kenilworth is going to create a sort of "^" (i.e. an up-side-down v-shaped) route as Rugby - Coventry - Kenilworth and the reverse direction.
The NXC 16/16a at its eastern end runs through Stoke Aldermoor, Ernesford Grange, Binley towards the Hospital - while the Stagecoach X16 will traverse more Whitley & Willenhall at one end of its route, not forgetting its run to Stratford, that's quite a lot services using the number '16' heading south/south-east from Coventry city-centre! Certainly the X16 won't be much of an express service despite the prefix. I had originally thought the extension to cover for the loss of the NXC 27 might go outbound Coventry - Willenhall - Stratford, with the inbound journeys the reverse. In-fact it is; Willenhall - Coventry - Stratford/Stratford - Coventry - Willenhall, like two routes cross-linked together NXC style. As mentioned, passengers could potentially see "Willenhall via Coventry & Whitley" on this X16 service in the middle of Stratford town centre!
I agree that these changes are largely for the better: looking forwards!
One thing I don't like though is that the number X19 is being retained just for journeys which go via Leyes Lane.
Some of the times given have to be wrong as well (Kenilworth Clock to JLR Whitley in 4 minutes?)
It will also be interesting to see the route that the 86 takes between JLR Whitley and Wyandotte in the peaks, since in some cases it takes 20 minutes or more!
I've given this some further thought, and I'm just hoping that no 'County Links' Solos aren't used on the 16.*
These don't even have 'Kenilworth' on their blinds, so have had to display a yellow blank for 16's terminating at Kenilworth, and will no doubt have to do the same for Willenhall/Binley.
It will be even more confusing in Coventry City Centre if a 16 displaying a blank rocks up -- particularly as the 16's in two directions often are timetabled to arrive and leave there at pretty much the same time.
It is good that different bus stops are used in the two directions on the whole, but again this could be (an unavoidable) source of confusion.
* On that subject, I have had a look through some fleet lists and can't find any such vehicles at either Leamington or Stratford.
Maybe they have moved on somewhere -- does anyone know?
Quote from: Valandil on April 21, 2014, 07:22:31 PM
I've given this some further thought, and I'm just hoping that no 'County Links' Solos aren't used on the 16.*
These don't even have 'Kenilworth' on their blinds, so have had to display a yellow blank for 16's terminating at Kenilworth, and will no doubt have to do the same for Willenhall/Binley.
It will be even more confusing in Coventry City Centre if a 16 displaying a blank rocks up -- particularly as the 16's in two directions often are timetabled to arrive and leave there at pretty much the same time.
It is good that different bus stops are used in the two directions on the whole, but again this could be (an unavoidable) source of confusion.
* On that subject, I have had a look through some fleet lists and can't find any such vehicles at either Leamington or Stratford.
Maybe they have moved on somewhere -- does anyone know?
Think 47028 is the only CountyLinks Solo left and that is withdrawn pending return to WCC.
Quote from: Cheese on April 21, 2014, 08:26:44 PMThink 47028 is the only CountyLinks Solo left and that is withdrawn pending return to WCC.
Many thanks for that: I hope it has a good future, whatever its finds itself doing next.
Checked in Pool Meadow this morning no new timetable leaflets available yet!!
Quote from: JoNi on April 24, 2014, 11:34:57 AM
Checked in Pool Meadow this morning no new timetable leaflets available yet!!
Same old, same old!
10033 was on the X17 to Leamington
I didn't know if this was unusual or not but judging from the branding and the fact the X17 doesn't go to Sydenham I'm guessing it is
Quote from: OH25 on April 24, 2014, 11:16:04 PM
10033 was on the X17 to Leamington
I didn't know if this was unusual or not but judging from the branding and the fact the X17 doesn't go to Sydenham I'm guessing it is
Yep, that's unusual! -- or at least it is for most workings.
It is however usual for this to appear on the Sunday-only U17.
No new bus stop flags/ timetable panels have been put up for Stagecoach ' s introduction of route X16 to replace NXC 27.
I saw a Stagecoach Dart in the city centre full of staff in hi vi ' s this morning presumably out route learning.
Quote from: JoNi on April 27, 2014, 01:46:12 PM
No new bus stop flags/ timetable panels have been put up for Stagecoach ' s introduction of route X16 to replace NXC 27.
I saw a Stagecoach Dart in the city centre full of staff in hi vi ' s this morning presumably out route learning.
So there is no bus stop information, no map on Stagecoach's website, no map (or even timetable) on the Network West Midlands website, and no information available at Pool Meadow.
So we still have no idea precisely what the route will be.
I imagine that there may be some information at Stagecoach's Leamington depot, but who in Coventry would think to go there or even know where the depot is?
These sorts of problems have been getting worse for years, and it is of course the public who loses out most.
(Companies may experience a small dip in revenue initially compared with what they could get).
A friend got me a Stagecoach timetable for the X16 from Stagecoach's office in Leamington. It's going to do an a to clockwise loop in Willenhall terminating at the "precinct". Most journeys will continue back to the city, but some will go round the loop again after layover.
Quote from: JoNi on April 27, 2014, 06:16:57 PM
A friend got me a Stagecoach timetable for the X16 from Stagecoach's office in Leamington. It's going to do an a to clockwise loop in Willenhall terminating at the "precinct". Most journeys will continue back to the city, but some will go round the loop again after layover.
Thanks for that.
If it's not too much trouble, could you describe the route the X16 will take in Whitley? (e.g. is it to serve the estate including Abbey Road, and will it use Chace Avenue / Dunsmore Avenue?)
No worries if you aren't able to do that -- all will become clear at some point hopefully.
Quote from: Valandil on April 27, 2014, 06:51:33 PM
Quote from: JoNi on April 27, 2014, 06:16:57 PM
A friend got me a Stagecoach timetable for the X16 from Stagecoach's office in Leamington. It's going to do an a to clockwise loop in Willenhall terminating at the "precinct". Most journeys will continue back to the city, but some will go round the loop again after layover.
Thanks for that.
If it's not too much trouble, could you describe the route the X16 will take in Whitley? (e.g. is it to serve the estate including Abbey Road, and will it use Chace Avenue / Dunsmore Avenue?)
No worries if you aren't able to do that -- all will become clear at some point hopefully.
With the exception of the main City centre stopping location it follows the 27 route between City Centre and Remembrance Rd then a anti-clockwise loop covering St James Lane, Yarningale Rd, Middle Ride and St James Lane back to Remembrance Rd for return towards City.
Yeah that going around the loop twice is odd but I suppose is so the through service towards Stratford runs at a specific time... and there isn't a turning facility in the vicinity of the 'Precinct' but knowing Stagecoach they will cheat and go via Robin Hood Road. ;D
Seen tridents with X16 Willenhall via Kenilworth on destination displays today. Pretty certain there were journeys operated by Olympians too, despite low trees in Abbey Road.
The 08:09 journey to Park & Ride only was an X17/X19 branded Dart which correctly displayed Park & Ride X16.
As I got on the 16 at University, and it was changed to X16 few stops later by the driver putting "X16" note on windscreen and taking a short detour into a car park.
Quote from: :D on April 28, 2014, 10:56:38 PM
As I got on the 16 at University, and it was changed to X16 few stops later by the driver putting "X16" note on windscreen and taking a short detour into a car park.
Classic Stagecoach!
At least they now tend to use printed service numbers, instead of their old habit of using a service number drawn using a thin pen, which no-one can read from any kind of distance!
Sorry for going. Off topic but which routes do stagecoach operate in blackpool
Quote from: Daniel w on April 30, 2014, 08:17:27 PM
Sorry for going. Off topic but which routes do stagecoach operate in blackpool
The ones i saw last week were:
Route 42- Lancaster (Mainly Olympian operated with the odd 04 plate Trident)
Route 61-Preston & Wrea Green (Operated by specially branded 13 plated Scania N230UD's with Enviro 400 bodywork)
Route 68- Preston (04 plated ALX400 Trident operated)
Route 74- Fleetwood (Operated on behalf of Lancashire County Council using Stagecoach Optare Solo's)
Is it me or is it Stagecoach have stopped serving the university? Ever since last time I got on the 16 (Last Monday) near Westwood, I've trying get on the 16 at sports centre bus stop, and I was at bus stop 10 minutes before the timetabled arrival time, it seems pretty much impossible to get on the 16 as they never come. Could this be because one of many U1 buses changes their route number on the display at Arts centre?
Quote from: :D on May 02, 2014, 08:29:04 PM
Is it me or is it Stagecoach have stopped serving the university? Ever since last time I got on the 16 (Last Monday) near Westwood, I've trying get on the 16 at sports centre bus stop, and I was at bus stop 10 minutes before the timetabled arrival time, it seems pretty much impossible to get on the 16 as they never come. Could this be because one of many U1 buses changes their route number on the display at Arts centre?
Most X16 journeys definitely do serve the full 'campus loop'.
Certain peak journeys skip by along Gibbet Hill Road, but then this was also the case before the timetable change, so is nothing new.
One MF journey does begin at the university: I am not sure but this may well only pick up from the main 'Arts Centre' bus stop, as seems to be the policy for the one-a-day MF X17 journeys which begin at the university.
Which direction are you generally heading in? -- I imagine that the 'towards Stratford' direction could be a bit hit-and-miss in the early stages of this route, probably with drivers getting lost, having to explain the route to passengers, et c.
Quote from: Valandil on May 02, 2014, 09:37:00 PM
Quote from: :D on May 02, 2014, 08:29:04 PM
Is it me or is it Stagecoach have stopped serving the university? Ever since last time I got on the 16 (Last Monday) near Westwood, I've trying get on the 16 at sports centre bus stop, and I was at bus stop 10 minutes before the timetabled arrival time, it seems pretty much impossible to get on the 16 as they never come. Could this be because one of many U1 buses changes their route number on the display at Arts centre?
Most X16 journeys definitely do serve the full 'campus loop'.
Certain peak journeys skip by along Gibbet Hill Road, but then this was also the case before the timetable change, so is nothing new.
One MF journey does begin at the university: I am not sure but this may well only pick up from the main 'Arts Centre' bus stop, as seems to be the policy for the one-a-day MF X17 journeys which begin at the university.
Which direction are you generally heading in? -- I imagine that the 'towards Stratford' direction could be a bit hit-and-miss in the early stages of this route, probably with drivers getting lost, having to explain the route to passengers, et c.
I usually go to either Coventry or Tile Hill.
I think I found the issue. Apparently, the timetable I was looking at is for 16 (it was on poster at bus stop dated starting from 27th april) and it was also at nNetwork website which has 16 arrival at University timed to xx:02 or something like that. I had a quick at stagecoach website, it seems that I should've been waiting for x16 which has a completely different timetable. It's really confusing.
Quote from: :D on May 02, 2014, 10:27:48 PMI usually go to either Coventry or Tile Hill.
I think I found the issue. Apparently, the timetable I was looking at is for 16 (it was on poster at bus stop dated starting from 27th april) and it was also at nNetwork website which has 16 arrival at University timed to xx:02 or something like that. I had a quick at stagecoach website, it seems that I should've been waiting for x16 which has a completely different timetable. It's really confusing.
Ah yes, the physical timetables in bus shelters and things haven't ben updated.
I don't think the (X)16 ever appeared on the 'RTI' (note the quote marks!) screens, which is probably some form of discrimination :P
The X16 does share many features in common with the old 16, but there are notable differences which unfortunately many intending customers are completely unaware of as things stand.
Plenty of Olympians keep appearing on the X16. I'm surprised as I assumed the extension to Willenhall is funded by Centro with an expectation of low floor operation. Is it supported by Centro.
This morning I was at the Park & Ride where anyone expecting a bus to glide through the trees was confronted by L reg Olympian, with tatty piece of card in windscreen.
I was quite surprised to see an Olympian in Stratford on Saturday
Quote from: mikestone on May 06, 2014, 05:05:25 PM
I was quite surprised to see an Olympian in Stratford on Saturday
Ah you must be unfamiliar with these parts?
If so, welcome!
Olympians are fair game around here for Stagecoach, and are often seen on service X16 (formerly 16).
Quote from: Valandil on May 03, 2014, 07:59:01 AM
Quote from: :D on May 02, 2014, 10:27:48 PMI usually go to either Coventry or Tile Hill.
I think I found the issue. Apparently, the timetable I was looking at is for 16 (it was on poster at bus stop dated starting from 27th april) and it was also at nNetwork website which has 16 arrival at University timed to xx:02 or something like that. I had a quick at stagecoach website, it seems that I should've been waiting for x16 which has a completely different timetable. It's really confusing.
Ah yes, the physical timetables in bus shelters and things haven't ben updated.
I don't think the (X)16 ever appeared on the 'RTI' (note the quote marks!) screens, which is probably some form of discrimination :P
The X16 does share many features in common with the old 16, but there are notable differences which unfortunately many intending customers are completely unaware of as things stand.
But it was updated, all of physical timetable in bus shelters are dated from 27th April which are latest and Network West Midlands website lists the 16 as having a current timetable and according to them, X16 doesn't exist.
It looks like it's either Stagecoach hasn't informed them of changes or they did but Network WM has screwed it up.
Quote from: :D on May 08, 2014, 09:36:55 PMBut it was updated, all of physical timetable in bus shelters are dated from 27th April which are latest and Network West Midlands website lists the 16 as having a current timetable and according to them, X16 doesn't exist.
It looks like it's either Stagecoach hasn't informed them of changes or they did but Network WM has screwed it up.
I think you're right that something is going on here.
On most of the X16's route in the east of Coventry, flags now read 'Not in Use'.
Perhaps Centro has deemed that deckers (required for at least some of the X16's journeys) are unsuitable for use on these roads, and is looking for an alternative solution.
I am sure that Centro will have known about the X16, as I doubt they would have gone along with the cancellation of the 27 with no replacement.
Do you happen to know whether the 16 on the timetables from 27th April uses the times at which the old 16 ran from the stops (including journeys to Kenilworth only), or the times which the present X16 uses?
Quote from: Valandil on May 09, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: :D on May 08, 2014, 09:36:55 PMBut it was updated, all of physical timetable in bus shelters are dated from 27th April which are latest and Network West Midlands website lists the 16 as having a current timetable and according to them, X16 doesn't exist.
It looks like it's either Stagecoach hasn't informed them of changes or they did but Network WM has screwed it up.
I think you're right that something is going on here.
On most of the X16's route in the east of Coventry, flags now read 'Not in Use'.
Perhaps Centro has deemed that deckers (required for at least some of the X16's journeys) are unsuitable for use on these roads, and is looking for an alternative solution.
I am sure that Centro will have known about the X16, as I doubt they would have gone along with the cancellation of the 27 with no replacement.
Do you happen to know whether the 16 on the timetables from 27th April uses the times at which the old 16 ran from the stops (including journeys to Kenilworth only), or the times which the present X16 uses?
They seem to use current X16 timetable only.
Are those 'not in use' bus flags used to be served by the 27?
If so, I think this is probably a huge mistake caused by Centro (likely). http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-27th-april shows NXWM knew the 27 was going to be transferred to other operator. Obviously Stagecoach knows about this as they're operating the route. http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/27April2014.aspx shows that Centro did not know that the X16 was taking over the 27. Presumably to Centro, the route's probably still out for a tender or they knew but it's not in the system yet.
Quote from: :D on May 10, 2014, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: Valandil on May 09, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: :D on May 08, 2014, 09:36:55 PMBut it was updated, all of physical timetable in bus shelters are dated from 27th April which are latest and Network West Midlands website lists the 16 as having a current timetable and according to them, X16 doesn't exist.
It looks like it's either Stagecoach hasn't informed them of changes or they did but Network WM has screwed it up.
I think you're right that something is going on here.
On most of the X16's route in the east of Coventry, flags now read 'Not in Use'.
Perhaps Centro has deemed that deckers (required for at least some of the X16's journeys) are unsuitable for use on these roads, and is looking for an alternative solution.
I am sure that Centro will have known about the X16, as I doubt they would have gone along with the cancellation of the 27 with no replacement.
Do you happen to know whether the 16 on the timetables from 27th April uses the times at which the old 16 ran from the stops (including journeys to Kenilworth only), or the times which the present X16 uses?
They seem to use current X16 timetable only.
Are those 'not in use' bus flags used to be served by the 27?
If so, I think this is probably a huge mistake caused by Centro (likely). http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-27th-april shows NXWM knew the 27 was going to be transferred to other operator. Obviously Stagecoach knows about this as they're operating the route. http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/27April2014.aspx shows that Centro did not know that the X16 was taking over the 27. Presumably to Centro, the route's probably still out for a tender or they knew but it's not in the system yet.
That second link does say about the X16 replacing the 27
Quote from: :D on May 10, 2014, 03:10:07 PMAre those 'not in use' bus flags used to be served by the 27?
As far as I have seen, yes, flags are marked 'Not in Use' only on the parts of the X16's route which used to be specific to the 27, with the X16 appearing on flags from the city centre to the University of Warwick as would be expected.
I did not notice whether the X16 appears on flags of bus stops which are shared in common with other services, such as the 21.
Quote from: Valandil on May 11, 2014, 12:12:52 AM
Quote from: :D on May 10, 2014, 03:10:07 PMAre those 'not in use' bus flags used to be served by the 27?
As far as I have seen, yes, flags are marked 'Not in Use' only on the parts of the X16's route which used to be specific to the 27, with the X16 appearing on flags from the city centre to the University of Warwick as would be expected.
I did not notice whether the X16 appears on flags of bus stops which are shared in common with other services, such as the 21.
I took a look today, flags on The Avenue are indeed marked "Not in Use", the shelter contains expired 27 timetable.
The Inbound Riverside Close flag has 21 27A 41 360C and 580. So the 27 was deleted but X16 not added.
Centro cited "late operator service registrations" for the delay in marking up the Trinity Street bus stops which is presumably also the reason why this has happened.
The X16 has now been acknowledged on the Network West Midlands site:
http://tinyurl.com/n8j5m9c
Yup. I saw X16 on RTI board and on my phone using Network WM app yesterday but the 16 still appears on the board, I'm sure they'll remove it soon.
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on May 10, 2014, 11:07:35 PM
Quote from: :D on May 10, 2014, 03:10:07 PM
Quote from: Valandil on May 09, 2014, 08:10:05 PM
Quote from: :D on May 08, 2014, 09:36:55 PMBut it was updated, all of physical timetable in bus shelters are dated from 27th April which are latest and Network West Midlands website lists the 16 as having a current timetable and according to them, X16 doesn't exist.
It looks like it's either Stagecoach hasn't informed them of changes or they did but Network WM has screwed it up.
I think you're right that something is going on here.
On most of the X16's route in the east of Coventry, flags now read 'Not in Use'.
Perhaps Centro has deemed that deckers (required for at least some of the X16's journeys) are unsuitable for use on these roads, and is looking for an alternative solution.
I am sure that Centro will have known about the X16, as I doubt they would have gone along with the cancellation of the 27 with no replacement.
Do you happen to know whether the 16 on the timetables from 27th April uses the times at which the old 16 ran from the stops (including journeys to Kenilworth only), or the times which the present X16 uses?
They seem to use current X16 timetable only.
Are those 'not in use' bus flags used to be served by the 27?
If so, I think this is probably a huge mistake caused by Centro (likely). http://nxbus.co.uk/coventry/information/service-changes/service-changes-from-27th-april shows NXWM knew the 27 was going to be transferred to other operator. Obviously Stagecoach knows about this as they're operating the route. http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/27April2014.aspx shows that Centro did not know that the X16 was taking over the 27. Presumably to Centro, the route's probably still out for a tender or they knew but it's not in the system yet.
That second link does say about the X16 replacing the 27
Oops, I didn't scroll that far down.
Quote from: :D on May 13, 2014, 11:47:03 AM
Yup. I saw X16 on RTI board and on my phone using Network WM app yesterday but the 16 still appears on the board, I'm sure they'll remove it soon.
I happened to notice that the X16 is given on the timetables at the bus stop on Warwick Road by Coventry Railway Station, and 'X16' is also on the flag there (rather than just '16').
Quote from: Valandil on May 13, 2014, 12:16:41 PM
Quote from: :D on May 13, 2014, 11:47:03 AM
Yup. I saw X16 on RTI board and on my phone using Network WM app yesterday but the 16 still appears on the board, I'm sure they'll remove it soon.
I happened to notice that the X16 is given on the timetables at the bus stop on Warwick Road by Coventry Railway Station, and 'X16' is also on the flag there (rather than just '16').
I've also noticed that few days ago. The 16 still appears in RTI and it still appears in Network WM website timetable. I'm sure it'll be removed soon. Did Stagecoach issue cancellation of the 16?
Quote from: :D on May 16, 2014, 10:59:30 AMI've also noticed that few days ago. The 16 still appears in RTI and it still appears in Network WM website timetable. I'm sure it'll be removed soon. Did Stagecoach issue cancellation of the 16?
It looks like the present VOSA registration is just the product of various amendments to an original registration with Stagecoach in 2007 (registration number PD0000479/216).
On 11th April, this came through VOSA:
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PD0000479/216 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stratford and Willenhall given service number 16A/16X/X16 effective from 27-Apr-2014. To amend Timetable.
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A further variation to this group of services was registered with VOSA on 17th April.
As an aside, there seem to be changes to some Nuneaton and Stratford services coming up on 2nd June, including the 48 into Coventry.
Interestingly enough, going through VOSA also made me stumble across the following.
Does anyone know anything about it?
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D1112528/1 - KRZYSZTOF MOKRZECKI T/A S.O.M MALGOSIA, 210 HUMBER ROAD, COVENTRY, CV3 1BH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Coventry, Fairfax Street
Finish Point: East Midlands Airport
Via: Nuneaton
Service Number:
Service Type: Limited Stop
Effective Date: 21-MAY-2014
Other Details: Monday to Sunday 3 times daily
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I would of course ordinarily post in the relevant thread for this operator, but I do not even know who this operator is!
Interesting.
I did some searching, apparently, 'KRZYSZTOF MOKRZECKI' is also a name belonging to somebody and by coincidence, s/he happens to live in Coventry with postcode of CV3.
http://www.192.com/atoz/people/mokrzecki/krzysztof/cv3/110122649/
This person owns a business teaching pupils how to drive
http://www.som-malgosia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=5&lang=pl (Polish version)
http://www.som-malgosia.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3&Itemid=5&lang=en (English version but still mostly in Polish)
but...
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20121107103953/http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/archive/N&P%202155%20-%2024th%20August%202012.pdf
This document showing a similar registration number but with little more useful info suggests this may be registered so s/he can drive a minibus or something similar for catholic mission. (I don't know how it works regarding to VOSA and I don't know how catholic mission works too).
Yesterday I did my first Stagecoach Warwickshire bash centred on Leamington Spa.
I just wondered since the 16 has become the X16. Have this and the 26 stopped interworking? Also is it Leamington or Stratford who run the Banbury service?
The reason for me asking is partly because I didn't see any LN or SD Tridents at all yesterday. Instead the X15 and X18 had Olympians on it with the X16 having X15 branded Scanias and Unibus liveried E400's
If anybody can shed some light I'd be grateful. Thanks
Quote from: Ashley on May 18, 2014, 11:12:59 AM
Yesterday I did my first Stagecoach Warwickshire bash centred on Leamington Spa.
I just wondered since the 16 has become the X16. Have this and the 26 stopped interworking? Also is it Leamington or Stratford who run the Banbury service?
The reason for me asking is partly because I didn't see any LN or SD Tridents at all yesterday. Instead the X15 and X18 had Olympians on it with the X16 having X15 branded Scanias and Unibus liveried E400's
If anybody can shed some light I'd be grateful. Thanks
In terms of the Banbury Services operated by Stagecoach Warwickshire, Leamington run the 66 and 77/277, whilst Stratford run the 50A.
Leamington also have boards on the 50A, used to be a Goldline board on there too, not sure if that still happens
The extension of the 10 from Hinckley to Fosse Shopping Park via Barwell, Earl Shilton & Enderby starts next week once an hour with extra peak time buses to the NEXT factory in Enderby.
The timetable for service 10: www.stagecoachbus.com/getTimetable.ashx?code=XLDO010&dir=OUTBOUND&date=02%2f06%2f2014
Does anyone know what vehicles the extended 10 will use?
I believe Stagecoach Midlands has several Darts in reserve - mainly 53 and 04 reg - so I would say there's a fair chance some of them could be used alongside the Enviro 200s and occasional Dart.
Newsletter from Cheylesmore councillors reports complaints from Whitley residents inappropriate double deckers on X16 which are getting stuck. They are going to write to Stagecoach.
28 branded Enviro got to Willenhall on X16
also Optare Solo last night.
About every different type except a Gold Solo (if that's possible) has been to Willenhall
Does anyone know if the 57's are displaying anything unusual at the moment, due to the curtailing to Bedworth Heath?
I imagine it is just 'Bedworth', but will try and make a trip to photograph it if it is anything unusual!
Does anyone know who will be running the free shuttle to the Kenilworth Show at Stoneleigh Park tomorrow?
A Unibus-liveried Olympian went up in flames on Gibbet Hill Road near the junction with Library Road at about 9:30am, meaning that that section of the road had to be closed.
I am live at the scene reporting for you, but unfortunately do not have my camera or phone with me, so can give you little more information.
I heard that there was a strike of the fire service today of all days too -- though I am not sure if this region is affected as fire engines and police are at the scene.
You know, I was thinking only the other day about how few Olympians have gone up in flames
Quote from: Matt on June 12, 2014, 10:45:23 AM
You know, I was thinking only the other day about how few Olympians have gone up in flames
Tempting fate never ends well!
Here is a report on the incident:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/look-bus-engulfed-flames-near-7256344
EDIT: The fleet number is 16617.
Quote from: Valandil on June 12, 2014, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: Matt on June 12, 2014, 10:45:23 AM
You know, I was thinking only the other day about how few Olympians have gone up in flames
Tempting fate never ends well!
Here is a report on the incident:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/look-bus-engulfed-flames-near-7256344
EDIT: The fleet number is 16617.
Not a great day for Stagecoach and fires... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-27814646
Quote from: notepanel on June 12, 2014, 01:01:22 PM
Quote from: Valandil on June 12, 2014, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: Matt on June 12, 2014, 10:45:23 AM
You know, I was thinking only the other day about how few Olympians have gone up in flames
Tempting fate never ends well!
Here is a report on the incident:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/look-bus-engulfed-flames-near-7256344
EDIT: The fleet number is 16617.
Not a great day for Stagecoach and fires... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-27814646
I'm surprised it wasn't a NXWM merc you know...
Quote from: Valandil on June 12, 2014, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: Matt on June 12, 2014, 10:45:23 AM
You know, I was thinking only the other day about how few Olympians have gone up in flames
Tempting fate never ends well!
Here is a report on the incident:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/look-bus-engulfed-flames-near-7256344
EDIT: The fleet number is 16617.
I was so shocked receiving the photo from my friend...why my favourite 16617? :'( :'(
Rest in peace...
Quote from: F37 XOF on June 12, 2014, 02:14:00 PM
Quote from: Valandil on June 12, 2014, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: Matt on June 12, 2014, 10:45:23 AM
You know, I was thinking only the other day about how few Olympians have gone up in flames
Tempting fate never ends well!
Here is a report on the incident:
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/look-bus-engulfed-flames-near-7256344
EDIT: The fleet number is 16617.
I was so shocked receiving the photo from my friend...why my favourite 16617? :'( :'(
Rest in peace...
And then there were 3 NX 4341 has just gone up (top deck fire) almost completely destroyed on the Stratford Road
Picture here - https://twitter.com/ExpressandStar/status/477091186331889664
(Thanks
@Nathan ;)
Been told there's another on fire at the moment in Tipton!
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 12, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
Been told there's another on fire at the moment in Tipton!
Sounds more of a depot fire and possibly minibuses/coaches? WMFS are stating all incidents taking place during the strike:
4.01pm Tipton: fire involving three buses
Tom Stokes on twitter states it involved 1 double deck and two single decks on land off Bagnall Street, Great Bridge.
Quote from: F37 XOF on June 12, 2014, 02:14:00 PM
Quote from: Valandil on June 12, 2014, 10:56:01 AM
EDIT: The fleet number is 16617.
I was so shocked receiving the photo from my friend...why my favourite 16617? :'( :'(
Rest in peace...
Yes, that batch of Olympians are/were fine buses. 16617 was bought new for Unibus and died on it.
I think 16617 was the last Olympian in Unibus livery still in use. 16516 is still in Unibus colours but has been delicensed (gearbox trouble?) for several months.
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 12, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
Been told there's another on fire at the moment in Tipton!
3 coaches destroyed in a salvage yard
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/12/three-coaches-destroyed-in-great-bridge-fire/
Quote from: John on June 12, 2014, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 12, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
Been told there's another on fire at the moment in Tipton!
3 coaches destroyed in a salvage yard
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/12/three-coaches-destroyed-in-great-bridge-fire/
I have my suspicions that these will be YRP371; W139ULR & W126WGT of Khokar, Smethwick (WM) which have been dumped in a lock up next to a scrap yard in Bagnall Street
Quote from: Andrew on June 13, 2014, 02:21:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 08:01:37 AM
Quote from: John on June 12, 2014, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 12, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
Been told there's another on fire at the moment in Tipton!
3 coaches destroyed in a salvage yard
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/12/three-coaches-destroyed-in-great-bridge-fire/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/12/three-coaches-destroyed-in-great-bridge-fire/)
I have my suspicions that these will be YRP371; W139ULR & W126WGT of Khokar, Smethwick (WM) which have been dumped in a lock up next to a scrap yard in Bagnall Street
Pictures of the damage now here
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/13/schoolboy-saves-birds-during-great-bridge-coach-blaze/busfire2ae12/ (http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/13/schoolboy-saves-birds-during-great-bridge-coach-blaze/busfire2ae12/)
What a great lad, as a bird lover I'm so glad he managed to save all those canaries! Goes to show there are still some good kids out there.
Quote from: Andrew on June 13, 2014, 02:21:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on June 13, 2014, 08:01:37 AM
Quote from: John on June 12, 2014, 10:18:25 PM
Quote from: BU07 LGO on June 12, 2014, 05:22:33 PM
Been told there's another on fire at the moment in Tipton!
3 coaches destroyed in a salvage yard
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/12/three-coaches-destroyed-in-great-bridge-fire/
I have my suspicions that these will be YRP371; W139ULR & W126WGT of Khokar, Smethwick (WM) which have been dumped in a lock up next to a scrap yard in Bagnall Street
Pictures of the damage now here
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/2014/06/13/schoolboy-saves-birds-during-great-bridge-coach-blaze/busfire2ae12/
One of those vehicles looks like the remains of Abbey Coaches ex Heartlands Olympian which is kept on Bagnall Street.
A couple more Stagecoach buses now badly damaged, this time an Arson attack at Paignton bus station...
http://www.torquayheraldexpress.co.uk/Double-deckers-destroyed-Paignton-depot-arson/story-21238939-detail/story.html
Stagecoach pretending to be NX Coventry on Foleshill Road...
http://oi57.tinypic.com/wswj1l.jpg
Sorry for the poor image quality, it was a rushed shot as we were trying to get the bus to start as the starter switch had randomly stopped working, hence a driver in the background!
Quote from: Ally on June 18, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Stagecoach pretending to be NX Coventry on Foleshill Road...
http://oi57.tinypic.com/wswj1l.jpg
Sorry for the poor image quality, it was a rushed shot as we were trying to get the bus to start as the starter switch had randomly stopped working, hence a driver in the background!
Why do Stagecoach have the 4 programmed into their display? Have Stagecoach ever ran trips on there?
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 09:20:29 PM
Why do Stagecoach have the 4 programmed into their display? Have Stagecoach ever ran trips on there?
They have several of the pre-Network Review services programmed on the blinds (21C, 32C, 36 etc.), it was for the New Years Day services which were contracted out and won by Stagecoach for the last few years until NX started running them themselves. I was present on 2 occasions, directing drivers.
Quote from: Ally on June 18, 2014, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 09:20:29 PM
Why do Stagecoach have the 4 programmed into their display? Have Stagecoach ever ran trips on there?
They have several of the pre-Network Review services programmed on the blinds (21C, 32C, 36 etc.), it was for the New Years Day services which were contracted out and won by Stagecoach for the last few years until NX started running them themselves. I was present on 2 occasions, directing drivers.
Cheers for the explanation
@Ally
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 09:30:28 PM
Quote from: Ally on June 18, 2014, 09:29:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan on June 18, 2014, 09:20:29 PM
Why do Stagecoach have the 4 programmed into their display? Have Stagecoach ever ran trips on there?
They have several of the pre-Network Review services programmed on the blinds (21C, 32C, 36 etc.), it was for the New Years Day services which were contracted out and won by Stagecoach for the last few years until NX started running them themselves. I was present on 2 occasions, directing drivers.
Cheers for the explanation @Ally
You're welcome! :)
It turns out that the hourly X17 extension to JLR Gaydon has been cut back to be peak-only.
http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/?alert=bus-timetable-changes-21-july-2014
Until stumbling across this just now, I had seen absolutely nothing suggestive of this change.
The U1/U2 will no longer serve the Security Gatehouse stop at the university from Monday 30th, but will serve a new stop on the still-unfinished Academic Loop road, and will operate in both directions on the southerly part of the campus loop.
The U17 will operate through the campus as normal towards Leamington, but will now operate in the other direction (anti-clockwise) towards Coventry.
There will be some small changes again when the mini bus station is finished this autumn.
http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/insite/kcm/do/buses_coaches
28 branded Enviro on X16 to Willenhall this morning
Driver very sensibly drove over from Stratford with Coventry on the destination display.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/pm15Ed
Needless to say the photo that came out had no via points showing!
Quote from: JoNi on June 27, 2014, 11:26:55 AM
28 branded Enviro on X16 to Willenhall this morning
Driver very sensibly drove over from Stratford with Coventry on the destination display.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/pm15Ed
Needless to say the photo that came out had no via points showing!
They may have been told similar to what Nuneaton has been told to do on their 55 service, as nobody knows where on earth Horeston Grange is, they've told drivers to display Nuneaton then change the blind over at Nuneaton to Horeston Grange. Some drivers of course just ignore that and display Horeston Grange anyway. Wonder if the X16 drivers have been told the same... The 86 is the really confusing one because it displays "Woodlands" which most people in Coventry see as the Woodlands in Bedworth, not Rugby.
I have just put the latest fleet changes on the homepage of the main site.
Of note is Olympian 16695 has been reinstated at Stratford to replace Burnt out 16617
Gold solo 47652 appeared on X17 this morning
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/8Qzr1z
Rare appearance of Olympian 16615 on U17 today.
By taking it in shade it shows up the limited internal lighting of that generation of double deckers.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/Z3h0ud
Quote from: JoNi on July 06, 2014, 11:48:06 AM
Rare appearance of Olympian 16615 on U17 today.
By taking it in shade it shows up the limited internal lighting of that generation of double deckers.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/Z3h0ud
That is quite remarkable. I rode on 16615 yesterday (Saturday) on the X15 between Cov and Leamington - I thought that was noteworthy. To my surprise it was painfully slow on the A46 - that batch of Olympians used to be fliers.
I guess the newer deckers are all at Silverstone.
Good point about Silverstone as there is a Dart on U17 as well today mind you it is vacation period.
Been watching the Grand Prix intermittently and only Stagecoach buses visible close to the track are Darts.
An old Olly straight up Knowle Hill in Kenilworth is one experience every bus enthusiast should be treated to.
The roar of the engine is like the roar of a coal furnace :D
Quote from: Valandil on July 06, 2014, 05:05:34 PM
An old Olly straight up Knowle Hill in Kenilworth is one experience every bus enthusiast should be treated to.
The roar of the engine is like the roar of a coal furnace :D
Or indeed up the Hagley mile - even better with a lead footed driver!
Noted 34592 on route 67 in Leamington today or yesterday now if of interest to anybody
Some noteworthy workings from yesterday
36945 - g1
47012 17694 17696 - x15/x18
16757 - u2
Nuneaton's 36166 has just this minute become VOR, it's just had a nasty smash in Leicester, writing off a car. I'm not sure on injuries but the driver was on the blower to the garage and Police were speaking to a passenger.
Warwickshire Council confirms the service X16 section of route between Willenhall and Coventry is being withdrawn from 2nd November.
At the moment no indication of any replacement service and it is an unusual date for a change on a Centro tender so shall we suspect Stagecoach will be providing something alternative?
I asked Centro whether the X16 to Willenhall was subsidised by them and they said it was a commercial operation by Stagecoach.
Not surprising it's coming off bearing in mind the loads I've seen on it.
Thanks JoNi,
Surprised to learn it was commercially run but fair play to Stagecoach for trying, NWM are saying a replacement service is going out to tender, so if that's awarded to Stagecoach it may even be retained under tender as X16. The current route would be easily covered by any operator with one bus but the direct link to the Rail Station might be lost again. ::)
Thru speaking to others apparently WMSNT or what ever they are called is going to run a replacement but I don't know any details.
WMSNT runs the 41 along London Road so there is potential for this to merge with whatever replaces the X16, whatever they can fit into a one hour round trip I suppose.
The 47 to Cannon Park (the other half of the 41 contract) could easily merge with the 87 service on journeys around 10am to 3pm, A waiting game now to see what's going to happen.
Reserve 22459 has gone to East Midlands as a source of spares if of interest
X16 is being replaced by route 27 by WMSNT aka igo.
However route 41 is not mentioned. You'd think it would be replaced by 27.
However the 41 timetable is gone from the WMSNT website.
The Irizar (80025 YN14FVR) was on Cardiffs Monday - seen it in Bearwood heading out of city - http://www.busphotography.co.uk/picture.php?/9462/category/51
34641 (GX54 DWM) was hooked up to a tow truck in The Burges, Coventry about ¾ hour ago.
39687 expired in the centre of Coventry
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/48cReg
39681 decided to have a wee in Bedworth Town Centre on Tuesday, just a couple of weeks after it previously got engineers dragged out when the kneeling floor interlock wouldn't disengage!
After a while underneath the bus and some burns injuries, the engineer removed the coolant hose which had a huge gaping hole in and fitted a new one before it was given it's 3rd dose of coolant for the day... In the engineers words "The pipes on these are s**t, they rub against absolutely everything".
It's the 3rd time for me in the last year now, but least it wasn't a tow in job this time like 39690 when it peed out all over the alternators and burnt one out!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1558262484454308&l=217f9389d2
(Featuring awfully placed coolant filler inlet)
Not quite Warwickshire but Northampton Dart 34589 which suffered accident damage a while ago has gone to Carlisle to donate its front end to their own 34771 which crashed into a shop window I believe
As I posted in the breakdowns earlier, 47075's turbo decided to commit suicide this afternoon on the 767 service from Birch Coppice, near Tamworth.
I recorded a few clips of it's struggles on the limping journey back: https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1562978327316057&l=602771528268990174
Those Solos normally have no problems even on steep hills, this couldn't handle a slight gradient. Thankfully it hadn't completely blown up, so second gear was actually possible!
http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/archives/alerts/bus-timetable-changes-30-march-2015
Service 10 will no longer serve Fosse Park. Didn't take long for Stagecoach to give that extension up!
The closure of Park Road in Bedworth is taking it's toll on the Friday rush hour 48's today, with 3 following each other into Nuneaton (2 Leicesters and 1 Atherstone) and 3 following each other out, one of which then went dead to Coventry.
I pulled into Atherstone at 16:45 on the 766 and in came the 16:20 48 followed swiftly by the 16:40.
I've just passed Leamington's Versa YJ09EZP on Queens Road in Nuneaton in 36166, thought I was losing the plot! It's the same place and time that I usually pass the Staff Bus too.
I've been informed that Stagecoach Midlands are to trial new ticket machines from July (if all goes to plan), some of the features include the automatic fare stage updates (putting an end to the old "well this driver charged me *such & such* yesterday" argument) and a facility allowing the depot to send messages to the drivers, although this isn't a two way feature like on board radios.
I'll post more information as & when I find out myself :)
Stagecoach are one of the few operators to issue the nbus concession ticket within the west midlands, although very few drivers seem to know how to issue it
An unidentified MAN Enviro 200 passed through Nuneaton town centre at approximately 17.20pm closely followed by the Transit Connect van (Engineering) and went into the garage, parking outside the pits. Sadly I wasn't able to go and get an ID but it looked repainted, actually looked brand new if I'm honest! No idea if it's one of our own or if it's a transfer. Will try asking about if I see any familiar faces.
EDIT: 39680 freshly repainted with no branding, it had new front wheel covers fitted which is quite odd for Nuneaton as they don't seem to like keeping them on the buses.
Re - Recent fleetcard
22374 still having axle repairs
17615 has replaced 16495 at Corby
17613 expected to go to Rugby
17614 to Stratford
17622 to Kettering
17494 17527 17575 O/T conversions for Stratford
The other 7 at Bus and Coach World, Blackburn
Info from Stagecoach news Yahoo group so usual disclaimers apply. Just thought it may be of use.
39687 is another repaint, losing it's Matrix branding in the process (on the outside at least).
36153 has had to go away for assessment and repairs as it has been too badly damaged to be fixed at Nuneaton, the engine cooling system is completely destroyed and the car struck the chassis so it could be even worse if there's any damage there...
47128 is now at Nuneaton, one of the drivers was saying how when writing the defect card out, she was confused when it was numbered differently (ours being 4707* ones), then a few days later, I ended up with it. Picture: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1597623210518235&l=f91b819351
Another Unknown MAN 396XX has been repainted at Nuneaton, believed to be either 39683 or 39686. Arriva Tamworth are also now fully aware of a 48 extension to Tamworth, so now it is looking very likely.
Also news being the MAN's at Nuneaton will be used on the 48 to Tamworth, 39680 has all ready appeared on the 48 since it's repaint and unbranding. The (bad) news being that the 55/56/57 will now most likely be covered by standard Enviro 200 ADL 'Go Karts' :'( :'(
The Enviro 200's released by Carlisle in place for the Optare Solo's are going to Stagecoach Midlands/Stagecoach South, Stagecoach Nuneaton expected for the 55/56/57.
Does anyone know if olympians get allocated to any Coventry routes?
Yes, none seen today so far.
Quote from: the trainbasher on June 27, 2015, 09:06:56 AM
Does anyone know if olympians get allocated to any Coventry routes?
X16 Coventry to Stratford is usually Olympians.
Also some X15/X18 is sometimes allocated Olympians, best to look for the 10:02 Coventry to Stratford X15 and the 11:02 Coventry to Stratford X15.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on July 02, 2015, 11:45:30 AM
X16 Coventry to Stratford is usually Olympians.
Also some X15/X18 is sometimes allocated Olympians, best to look for the 10:02 Coventry to Stratford X15 and the 11:02 Coventry to Stratford X15.
Cheers
@bensweeney14, when I went over Saturday all I saw on the X16 were solos and Tridents, and in the X18 a Unibus E400 dropped on it
There is an Olympian on X17 today and an L reg one on X16 12:50 ex Coventry. X16 on the previous hour was an Optare Solo.
Do stagecoach offer a day ticket?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 03, 2015, 08:00:12 PM
Do stagecoach offer a day ticket?
I can understand why you're asking-hard to navigate their website and actually find out, if you don't want a Megarider!!
I'll be interested what the reply is to this as would quite like to do a Warwickshire day out.
Quote from: DiamondDart on July 03, 2015, 08:03:43 PM
I can understand why you're asking-hard to navigate their website and actually find out, if you don't want a Megarider!!
I'll be interested what the reply is to this as would quite like to do a Warwickshire day out.
The following link should provide the details - all manner of different choices of Dayrider, the areas served is shown in the link at the top of the page.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/warwickshiredayrider.aspx
That very helpful so how much would it cost for the ticket from Coventry to Stratford?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 03, 2015, 08:22:10 PM
That very helpful so how much would it cost for the ticket from Coventry to Stratford?
No idea - why don't you give Stagecoach customer services a call, have done that on a few occasions and they can tell you the cost of single fares. Dayrider Gold covers the whole of the Stagecoach Midlands area...
went to leamington spa on the train saw these parked at leamington spa depot these 3 buses are for stratford on avon sightseeing tour they still need the audio & branding done spoke to someone in the office who told me https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/19226400768/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/19227751299/in/dateposted-public/
I have a copy of the latest fare chart so if anybody needs any assistance, I'll be more than happy to help!
The price of an Adult single journey ticket from Coventry to Stratford is £5.75. If you're planning more than one journey, I'd recommend buying a Dayrider Gold for £8.45 which is vaild across the whole of the Midlands, rather than the specific towns. If you go on a Sunday, it's only £4.25.
37109 and 37111 noted elsewhere in use at Northampton today.
Oxford gen
MAN's 22765 - 22771 earmarked for transfer to Yorkshire.
The GPS was activated in the ticket machines as from yesterday (despite the garage notice saying Tuesday). Now machines are tracked by AVL and by GPS satellites so controllers know where the bus is and the GPS will be used for a new app they're going to launch, plus, the fare stages on the ticket machines update on their own now without driver input, bar the select few routes denoted on the machine with a $ symbol. These will still have to be updated manually. It even tells you how many GPS satellites can currently see your bus (apparently the system will not work well if under 5).
Another key feature is the ability to send messages via the machines, which have had SIM cards fitted inside. These are obviously pre-programmed messages to stop drivers sending texts to each other etc. and the function will only work if the vehicle is stationary.
Something I've noticed already is the "Driver under assault - call police" message, to which I've been jokingly saying "When you're having your lights punched out, you can hardly say: Just hang on a sec while I text in to the garage mate". They've also added on for when your bus has "brocken down".
The one that will be of most use to 36208 is the "I'm going to be over 10 minutes late" message, the button will probably end up worn out for that one...
But back to seriousness, I think it's going to see a nice improvement now as they'll be able to better react to breakdowns, diversions and other incidents, hopefully getting show up drivers and controllers/inspectors out onto the road quicker when needs be.
I'm hoping the app will be as good as Arriva's, where you can see your bus on a map, rather than a not so helpful "4 mins" sign.
@Ally do you know if the system is going to be the same as/similar to the one that Stagecoach East Kent use? Reason I ask is an app I use has been, since Christmas, giving Real Time for some stagecoach kent buses and I was just wondering if the same will apply for Warwickshire (saves using a second app - why Arriva won't give the same data feeds I'll never know!)
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 26, 2015, 02:05:48 PM
@Ally do you know if the system is going to be the same as/similar to the one that Stagecoach East Kent use? Reason I ask is an app I use has been, since Christmas, giving Real Time for some stagecoach kent buses and I was just wondering if the same will apply for Warwickshire (saves using a second app - why Arriva won't give the same data feeds I'll never know!)
@the trainbasher They're being very cloak and dagger about everything these days, but I believe the plan is to have 1 app for the whole of the country, this would allow for easier travelling if you go elsewhere in the country, rather than downloading a seperate app everywhere you go.
At first this was a Midlands only trial, but I believe they've just released it across the country now instead, as I recall seeing somebody from another division mentioning their buses having it installed.
The only difference at the moment that passengers will notice is that on the ticket, the "Journey" now states the journey number and not the commencing time, i.e. the 767 journey I'm often on used to say "Journey: 04:32" and now says "Journey: 6", also the route numbers have changed to what is called a "Revenue number" which for example is shown on the ticket as "Route: E48A", I have no idea at all what the E means but it also shows on the running boards.
I've got the entire documentation for the changes, including message IDs and their meanings.
As for any release of the mobile app, that's being kept secret at this time. But as soon as I hear anything more, I will post straight away.
On a seperate note, 39685 has been repainted and has lot 99% of it's Matrix branding, retaining only the squares on the rear window and the interior lining.
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 26, 2015, 02:05:48 PM
@Ally do you know if the system is going to be the same as/similar to the one that Stagecoach East Kent use? Reason I ask is an app I use has been, since Christmas, giving Real Time for some stagecoach kent buses and I was just wondering if the same will apply for Warwickshire (saves using a second app - why Arriva won't give the same data feeds I'll never know!)
If it runs off the ETM is it due to them both having different systems?
As Arriva already have an app covering the whole UK (or at least the bits they run in) you could look at it the other way round and ask why Stagecoach won't supply the same feeds! It must be possible as there is multi operator RTI in loads of places.
17486 is now in use at Rugby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/19644218884/
Quote from: Solo1 on July 05, 2015, 05:48:29 PM
went to leamington spa on the train saw these parked at leamington spa depot these 3 buses are for stratford on avon sightseeing tour they still need the audio & branding done spoke to someone in the office who told me https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/19226400768/in/dateposted-public/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/19227751299/in/dateposted-public/
Any update on these three, please - have they reached Stratford yet?
There was at least two Olympians on the Tour last week
How many buses are needed on the X15/X18? Also do the Unibus E400s appear on normal routes when not required for Unibus work eg now in the Summer Holidays?
They do appear in Coventry city centre during University vacations.
This one appeared on X17 on Friday morning.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/c83vz9
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 22, 2015, 04:57:04 PM
How many buses are needed on the X15/X18? Also do the Unibus E400s appear on normal routes when not required for Unibus work eg now in the Summer Holidays?
X15/X18 PVR last I knew was 6.
Ok thanks for the info
@Ashley 60171
There was a Dart on the Stagecoach 68 today is this usual? I think it was 35182.
With the reliability of the Versa's its rare to have a full Versa service on the 68
Just seen former Midland Red South Merc breadvan H404MRW which has been turned into a pink party fire engine bus in Belfast.
Are the new Tridents now in service on the stratford on Avon tour
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/sE16JB
Seen this evening emphasising the level of illumination inside Olympians.
Ex Manchester Magic bus 17617 V617DJA seen in service in Coventry this evening in corporate livery.
Quote from: JoNi on September 18, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/sE16JB
Seen this evening emphasising the level of illumination inside Olympians.
Ex Manchester Magic bus 17617 V617DJA seen in service in Coventry this evening in corporate livery.
Presumably 16614 was on the 1820 journey from Coventry - the only Stagecoach 18A to run north of Leamington?
16614 reached Coventry again today, on the X16.
Unibus 10039 and gold 15943 are providing internal shuttles at the bsb at Silverstone today.
Just noted former Stagecoach West Scotland Trident 18371 in Leamington Spa depot.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/DvZ730
16460 is on X16 today 09:50 Coventry to Stratford.
Another extremely rare photo.. This time of 16460 P160KAK on the 50A!!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/92414404@N08/22531177658/in/dateposted-public/
18371 SF55TSZ IS now in service in Leamington, confirmed by my own eyes!
Also, 17511 LX51FMO is in service (Meant to be an excellent bus!) - 16174 R174HHK is also a recent transfer from Kettering to Stratford.
47653 KX58AYG is also now painted in standard livery.
39680/1/2???/4/5/6/7/8/9/90/91 all now repainted out of Matrix livery for the 55/56/57 - 39683 seen by myself today. Not seen 39682 for a while, so in for repaint?
Regards,
Ben.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on November 11, 2015, 07:38:38 PM
18371 SF55TSZ IS now in service in Leamington, confirmed by my own eyes!
Also, 17511 LX51FMO is in service (Meant to be an excellent bus!) - 16174 R174HHK is also a recent transfer from Kettering to Stratford.
47653 KX58AYG is also now painted in standard livery.
39680/1/2???/4/5/6/7/8/9/90/91 all now repainted out of Matrix livery for the 55/56/57 - 39683 seen by myself today. Not seen 39682 for a while, so in for repaint?
Regards,
Ben.
17511 is LX51FNO, LX51FMO is 17493 which is a Rugby vehicle isn't it? Btw, are both of these vehicles still dual door or have they been converted to single door?
17493 is a Rugby vehicle, and I believe it and 17511 have both been converted to single door, along with several others incoming.
I wonder if Nuneaton's Matrix MANs will be replaced shortly?
Finally, an Olympian - or any DD - on the 50A would be a trip to savour; especially around Sibford Gower.
LX51FNO even, sorry about the confusion
What type of bus is used on route 26 between Stratford and Redditch?
Several types? Both Leamington and Stratford have boards using a mix of singles and doubles
Volvo Olympian
Tridents
Enviro 400s
Scania E400s
ADL E200s
Optare Solos
Dennis Darts
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on November 19, 2015, 04:45:59 PM
What type of bus is used on route 26 between Stratford and Redditch?
The 26 has a nice variety of vehicles. Later on, it tends to be buses that come off the X16 and 50. So usually 18102/18103/18106/17054
On a weekday, the 09:10, 15:10 and 16:10 off Stratford are operated using a Leamington vehicle, and are usually 15676/7/8, 18190 or 18398/399/400/401/402. 17696 has been known to be on this though.
On a Saturday, the 10:10 Stratford - Redditch is always 36951 (Unfortunately, that heap should be scrapped). the 09:10 is one to watch, booked a decker so usually a Trident, 15675 or an Olympian.
Ok thanks for your help
@bensweeney14
39682 KX08KYU now repainted.
Only 39683 KX08KYV remaining in the 'Matrix' branded livery, but not seen it for a while so in for repaint most likely!
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-service-update-details.aspx?id=7582
"Major timetable changes to routes 55, 56 & 57 in order to improve punctuality."
Changes start This Sunday.
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 24, 2015, 04:01:30 PM
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tis-service-update-details.aspx?id=7582
"Major timetable changes to routes 55, 56 & 57 in order to improve punctuality."
Changes start This Sunday.
And ironically, the
only journeys they haven't altered are the Sunday 56s which are by far the worst offenders! In the week it gets around 70 minutes running time, on Sunday the route is longer and it gets about 55 minutes. The only way you can keep to time is to break to the speed limit and pray that you don't pick many people up. George Eliot Hospital gets skipped on about 75% of journeys because by the time you get into Nuneaton to go out there, you should have already gone, come back and been well on the way out to Coventry again. Sometimes drivers actually have to skip an entire 56 journey altogether.
Then you get the Leicester 48 on Sundays, with it's pointless 40 minute layover time...
I do however welcome the early morning changes, with so many people buying week tickets which have to be sealed in the wallets (although that is due to decrease with smartcards replacing them) and that happening at almost every stop seriously impacts on service reliability, and the £20+£10 note for a £20.30 Megarider Plus at 4am palava, because nobody seems to learn that drivers don't have hundreds of pounds of change at that time in the morning! >:(
The changes to the lates though, they're pretty pointless, they have ample running time and you only run late if there's an issue or you do so on purpose.
There's currently a storm brewing at Nuneaton Garage at the moment with working hours. One example is that all bar 1 driver on the Tamworth rota have put in a driver's report saying they want off it and there was a Union meeting today with the drivers with regards to it. I was told that the meeting between the Management and the Union previously didn't go well, with industrial action mentioned.
With the changes, the Tamworth rota will cover approximately 2am-10pm. Being made to change shift times of such a great scale over and over isn't going to do your sleep pattern any good and that's hardly going to boost safety.
Quote from: Ally on November 25, 2015, 07:29:04 PM
And ironically, the only journeys they haven't altered are the Sunday 56s which are by far the worst offenders! In the week it gets around 70 minutes running time, on Sunday the route is longer and it gets about 55 minutes. The only way you can keep to time is to break to the speed limit and pray that you don't pick many people up. George Eliot Hospital gets skipped on about 75% of journeys because by the time you get into Nuneaton to go out there, you should have already gone, come back and been well on the way out to Coventry again. Sometimes drivers actually have to skip an entire 56 journey altogether.
Then you get the Leicester 48 on Sundays, with it's pointless 40 minute layover time...
I do however welcome the early morning changes, with so many people buying week tickets which have to be sealed in the wallets (although that is due to decrease with smartcards replacing them) and that happening at almost every stop seriously impacts on service reliability, and the £20+£10 note for a £20.30 Megarider Plus at 4am palava, because nobody seems to learn that drivers don't have hundreds of pounds of change at that time in the morning! >:(
The changes to the lates though, they're pretty pointless, they have ample running time and you only run late if there's an issue or you do so on purpose.
There's currently a storm brewing at Nuneaton Garage at the moment with working hours. One example is that all bar 1 driver on the Tamworth rota have put in a driver's report saying they want off it and there was a Union meeting today with the drivers with regards to it. I was told that the meeting between the Management and the Union previously didn't go well, with industrial action mentioned.
With the changes, the Tamworth rota will cover approximately 2am-10pm. Being made to change shift times of such a great scale over and over isn't going to do your sleep pattern any good and that's hardly going to boost safety.
Looking at the 55 Timetable, has the extension to Horeston Grange been cut & replaced or are they trying to confuse everyone as usual with separate timetables?
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 26, 2015, 03:52:36 PM
Looking at the 55 Timetable, has the extension to Horeston Grange been cut & replaced or are they trying to confuse everyone as usual with separate timetables?
Intriguing; http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/archives/alerts/bus-timetable-changes-4-january-2016
Service 55 will end at Nuneaton from 4th January. Horeston Grange & Milby Drive has "Low Usage" and they have seemingly given up on St Nicholas Park Drive with the arrival of Hinckley Bus Number 7.
Is anyone losing out with this change?
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 27, 2015, 07:41:23 PM
Intriguing; http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/archives/alerts/bus-timetable-changes-4-january-2016
Service 55 will end at Nuneaton from 4th January. Horeston Grange & Milby Drive has "Low Usage" and they have seemingly given up on St Nicholas Park Drive with the arrival of Hinckley Bus Number 7.
Is anyone losing out with this change?
They registered a route and timetable change on the Nuneaton - Horeston Grange 4 which doesn't exist so I suspect it may be making a return which would make sense, I've heard Milby and Horeston were going to minibuses (Solos).
The resients of St Nicolas Park kicked off big time when the 48 stopped serving it, as did Tiverton Drive now on the 10, ironically it's rare to get passengers in both areas!
I've heard lots of bits and bobs on the Whitestone 7 getting the chop.
One thing I had confirmed to me by the union rep yesterday morning is that the Sunday George Eliot journeys will be taken off the 56 at last and stuck on the 48's cross-town 48's, which currently get 15 minutes layover in the Bus Station.
Earlier on 16174 was on 14:10 26 at Redditch. Saw 47651 arrive at 15:08 not in service. Not sure if this formed the 15:20 26.
Olympian is not unusual on the 26, there were two on there on Wednesday i think it was, 16174 and 16460, both recent moves from Corby.
The 15:20 is an odd one, requires 2 vehicles, one decker and one solo, both are booked to run in service, the solo as a dupe, this being due to School Contract in Alcester, i believe a certain amount of seats need to be provided.
Olympians on the 26, X16 or any route are now 'noteworthy' workings.
Quote from: Solo1 on September 18, 2015, 06:27:04 AM
Are the new Tridents now in service on the stratford on Avon tour
Acccording to the fleet card all 3 are now at Stratford; the DVLA has 17575 taxed from September (has anyone seen it in use, please?), with 17494/527 SORN at present.
Quote from: Ally on November 29, 2015, 08:04:35 AM
They registered a route and timetable change on the Nuneaton - Horeston Grange 4 which doesn't exist so I suspect it may be making a return which would make sense, I've heard Milby and Horeston were going to minibuses (Solos).
The resients of St Nicolas Park kicked off big time when the 48 stopped serving it, as did Tiverton Drive now on the 10, ironically it's rare to get passengers in both areas!
I've heard lots of bits and bobs on the Whitestone 7 getting the chop.
One thing I had confirmed to me by the union rep yesterday morning is that the Sunday George Eliot journeys will be taken off the 56 at last and stuck on the 48's cross-town 48's, which currently get 15 minutes layover in the Bus Station.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-07/12/2015-12:04:35:707
Service 4 is replacing the service to Horeston Grange Hourly.
The 3 new sightseeing Tridents are not out yet. 17575 has no headlights at the minute and has various electrical defects. The others are not branded yet but are being prepared. The 3 of them are expected to be on the road in March 2016.
17575 was out on the tour today ... see attached photo on the Stagecoach Group on facebook
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=940190349404745&set=gm.521592898003920&type=3&theater
Quote from: Adam 404 on December 22, 2015, 06:50:43 PM
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-07/12/2015-12:04:35:707
Service 4 is replacing the service to Horeston Grange Hourly.
Interesting to see that there is no change to the 48 timetable yet, so Stagecoach will continue to serve St Nicolas Park on Sundays.
No real need for the 48 for a timetable change.
The 55/56/57 need changing again, the new timetable is beyond pathetic!
Quote from: Justin Tyme on December 24, 2015, 03:04:10 PM
Interesting to see that there is no change to the 48 timetable yet, so Stagecoach will continue to serve St Nicolas Park on Sundays.
It only serves St Nicholas Park Drive on Sunday, Hinckley Bus service 7 is the Monday - Saturday Service.
For some reason, 34593 KP04GZN of Nuneaton depot is now in the reserve fleet!
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/midlands/under-19-dayrider-promotion?utm_source=facebook-&utm_medium=social&utm_content=paid-&utm_campaign=under19promotion-2016jan-uk-bus-
Not sure as to whether this covers Coventry but might well be usefull to some people on here...
Enviro 15677 has destination on front and side the reverse way from usual.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/r0Sp52
Where is Driver Trainer 52434 (R34AKV) Allocated as I seen it in Leamington Spa today.
Quote from: Adam 404 on February 16, 2016, 03:46:51 PM
Where is Driver Trainer 52434 (R34AKV) Allocated as I seen it in Leamington Spa today.
Northampton.
20215 - Nuneaton
52526 - Leamington
52434 - Northampton
52435 - Kettering.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on February 18, 2016, 12:18:43 AM
Northampton.
20215 - Nuneaton
52526 - Leamington
52434 - Northampton
52435 - Kettering.
Thanks.
Allocations for most Stratford routes today, some of these are probably unusual:
19:47652
26:17054/47651
28:15670/15671/15675/47653
50:18402/35174
X15/6/8:15677/17614/18399/18400/18401/47128,is there more buses on these as well?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 18, 2016, 04:28:14 PM
Allocations for most Stratford routes today, some of these are probably unusual:
19:47652
26:17054/47651
28:15670/15671/15675/47653
50:18402/35174
X15/6/8:15677/17614/18399/18400/18401/47128,is there more buses on these as well?
The X15 / X18 are difficult. I had a glance at Duty 909 and it only does one journey of X15 / X18. It then done a few 65 journeys. That is the 10:28 from Coventry.
Yes I saw a few buses come in at Stratford on X15/6/8 and then go on other routes like 47653 and 35174. Whenever I look at the timetable I can never work out how many buses are on the X15/6/8
In a weekday it's strange.
One Leamington bus does the X16, 50, X18, X15 for example. One Stratford bus does the 26, X18, X15.
However, the 10:28 X18 off Coventry is a bus which comes off the X16! Leamington bus.. the 10:42 X16 is a bus which comes off the X15, Stratford bus!
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-03/03/2016-14:59:58:650
New Fares from 13th March.
Some Stratford workings today:
Sightseeing:17412/17575
26A:36951
28:15670
18A:36948/xxxxx
Olympians 16174 and 16695 noted at the depot.16695 on the front row,16174 on the back row. Wonder how long it will be until all the Olympians get withdrawn? :'(
Don't think it has been mentioned yet but 47128 is now at Stratford
16174 VOR in reserve with various faults, some severe. Doubt it'll move again.
16695 working excellent as per usual, faultless bus, 47128 has been with Stratford since the start of December.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/6T24U1
Olympian on X17
A Nuneaton MAN Enviro200 was in the garage repanelled and scrubbed down ready for repaint yesterday, I assume it'll be 39692 seeing as it's now the only one that hasn't been done and is extremely scruffy from its time in Northampton.
Nuneaton 39691 had to be replaced by fresh from MOT 39684 about an hour ago after its windscreen wipers developed a mind of their own. It was quite humorous seeing a 56 full of passegers in the garage, last time I saw that was around 8 years ago when B10M 20227 ran out of screen wash on the 41!
Nothing else of interest really unless you count 20215 parked in its usual spot round the side, and not on the road elsewhere.
Forgive me if there's no point of mentioning these but saw the following in Leamington today:
64:22375
67:10034/35180
68:36950
77:35179
X17:10037
X18:10036
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on March 19, 2016, 02:27:47 PM
Forgive me if there's no point of mentioning these but saw the following in Leamington today:
64:22375
67:10034/35180
68:36950
77:35179
X17:10037
X18:10036
No problem I would say - this isn't called a Noteworthy or Unusual Workings folder!
That said, most of the above are good examples of Leamington depot putting unscheduled types on several routes, which it very often does.
Part of the 67 is interworked with the 65 and 66, so 10034 probably would have got to Banbury or Daventry at some point during the day.
The 64 is operated by Rugby depot, so this is probably why 22375 (allocated to Rugby) was on it.
Yes thought some of the routes inter worked with each other when I looked at timetables the other day. Does the 67 interwork with any other routes like 63/64 as I saw 22841 on there which is a Rugby bus?
Yes, the 64 and 67 are interworked, separately from the 65/66 and 67 interworking.
The 63 is self-contained - it operates in a loop at Leamington - in via Willes Road, down the Parade, and out via High Street and Radford Road.
The 63 and 64 are operated by Rugby, and the 65 and 66 by Leamington, so the 67 is operated by both garages.
Ok thanks for your help
@Justin Tyme :)
Anyone know if Stagecoach operate any School/Contract services in Worcestershire - I have seen a Trident and Olympian in Wythall (near May Pole) twice this week around 7:30am, one was parked at Beckett's Farm car park. Maybe a school service into Redditch?
I believe its the 128 service to Alcester Schools, i have followed it up the A435 several times in the past
Is the use of a Solo unusual for the X16? If so,I saw 47652-one of the former Gold examples-on it yesterday at the University of Warwick.
No the use of Solos on there is quite frequent, always has been since before the former goldlines arrived on the service
Quote from: jc on April 17, 2016, 09:47:52 PM
No the use of Solos on there is quite frequent, always has been since before the former goldlines arrived on the service
I see. Wasn't sure if it was or not. Thanks for the reply.
22375 is no longer in reserve but now at Rugby seen on the 9th of April on the 63
Image of 22375: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.489367547901850.1073742151.369276339910972/530819870423284/?type=3&theater
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 18, 2016, 07:02:24 PM
22375 is no longer in reserve but now at Rugby seen on the 9th of April on the 63
Image of 22375: https://www.facebook.com/369276339910972/photos/a.489367547901850.1073742151.369276339910972/530819870423284/?type=3&theater
It was based at Rugby anyway. Plus the Stagecoach definition of reserve is pretty meaningless so its probably still in reserve but in use.
Can't see why 22375 is in reserve when I know for a fact it's in front line use every day.. it's a good bus too..!
Quote from: bensweeney14 on April 18, 2016, 10:30:07 PM
Can't see why 22375 is in reserve when I know for a fact it's in front line use every day.. it's a good bus too..!
As we've both said. Reserve is an overkill word in the Stagey dictionary. (I haven't had the pleasure of it yet, but I do like 18.220 MAN's)
Leamington Courier's article on service changes
http://www.leamingtoncourier.co.uk/news/local-news/bus-routes-scrapped-in-district-wide-stagecoach-changes-1-7352255
What is the website address for sightseeing stratford on avon as I can't find it any more with the timetable on like the leaflet has
Quote from: Solo1 on April 29, 2016, 08:17:47 AM
What is the website address for sightseeing stratford on avon as I can't find it any more with the timetable on like the leaflet has
@Solo1 http://www.city-sightseeing.com/tours/united-kingdom/stratford-upon-avon.htm
For some reason, 39690 has lost its side destination blind
Preserved Bristol FLF 19953 and Nuneaton Trainer 20215 attended Fenland Bus Fest yesterday
Recently transferred 39696 has been out since at least Monday (probably before though but I hadn't spotted it until then) and 39697 is also present but I believe is off the road being "Ex-Northamptonified" (basically tending to whatever state it's in) and will then also hit the road. There is supposed to be more on the way, probably the lot and are supposed to be replacing the Transbus Darts according to an engineer. They should also finish off 36207/8 at Nuneaton (hallelujah!). Unfortunately they're always very cryptic with plans, blood out of a stone and all!
And while nothing is yet confirmed, they are also looking into the possibility of getting shot of the Solos, as they're struggling more and more with passenger loads in the peak times. Enviro 200s can easily make it round all the routes, granted people don't park silly - Castle Road on the 3 being a prime example, where I've been stuck in a Solo in the past... *Could* be a contender for next year's vehicle orders *if* they decide to go ahead with it.
And one last bit, although this is just talk at the moment and nothing confirmed, but there is a possibility of a Twycross Zoo route being introduced. I would imagine it'd be a seasonal service but I can see it being very busy in the summer times, again, *if* that does happen.
If I hear any more, I'll post in :)
39696 on the 55 today - Noted the security screen in it - Fixed with no holes, no doubt that will change soon most likely
Quote from: bensweeney14 on May 26, 2016, 07:37:49 PM
39696 on the 55 today - Noted the security screen in it - Fixed with no holes, no doubt that will change soon most likely
Ah yes, that's reminded me that I missed a bit off my post! The engineers have said that when one of 39680-92 is next in for a service, they'll get all the measurements done for the cab doors so they can sort out the ex-Northampton ones with holed retractable assault screens.
Just seen 16174 at the University of Warwick on the U1. Any idea what depot this is at? As it's listed as"Reserve" on Tony's fleetlist.
It was at Stratford depot but may have moved to Leamington if on the U1 unless another Stratford route interworks with the U1? It was broken so must have been repaired now.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on May 31, 2016, 10:50:35 AM
Just seen 16174 at the University of Warwick on the U1. Any idea what depot this is at? As it's listed as"Reserve" on Tony's fleetlist.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on May 31, 2016, 10:53:30 AM
It was at Stratford depot but may have moved to Leamington if on the U1 unless another Stratford route interworks with the U1? It was broken so must have been repaired now.
Stagecoaches definition of reserve means it could operate out of any depot when required.
How could the U1 interwork with another route? Alot of dead mileage there.
There are a couple of Olympians on consecutive X16s. I presume the branding is going to be removed/replaced on X15 and 28 branded buses before the changes occur.
16174 has had its MOT and has been repaired, and is now temporarily operating out of Leamington depot for the time being.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on May 31, 2016, 10:53:30 AM
It was at Stratford depot but may have moved to Leamington if on the U1 unless another Stratford route interworks with the U1? It was broken so must have been repaired now.
For the record, Stratford depot does not operate on the U1, but Rugby depot has had a duty for a few years now which includes a U1 trip.
The 6th June changes include the extension of a U1 and a U12 to start from Stratford. I'll be interested to know if either of these are operated by Stratford depot.
Timetables for revised Stagecoach services are available in Travel Centre at Pool Meadow Bus Station. I was advised by a passer by they are hidden behind the counter and you had to ask for one.
It demonstrates how pathetic NX are fulfilling their role of providing information since the separate Centro office closed.
Contrast this with Nottingham and other cities where information is displayed in advance on separate racks.
Marketing as far as NX is concerned is sticking a few labels on buses not communicating.
It always a pleasure to visit those cities and see their cultures and contrast them with the 3rd world cultures that exist in the West Midlands
Quote from: JoNi on June 02, 2016, 05:24:40 PM
Timetables for revised Stagecoach services are available in Travel Centre at Pool Meadow Bus Station. I was advised by a passer by they are hidden behind the counter and you had to ask for one.
It demonstrates how pathetic NX are fulfilling their role of providing information since the separate Centro office closed.
Contrast this with Nottingham and other cities where information is displayed in advance on separate racks.
Marketing as far as NX is concerned is sticking a few labels on buses not communicating.
It always a pleasure to visit those cities and see their cultures and contrast them with the 3rd world cultures that exist in the West Midlands
The reason is far more positive than that. Initial deliveries are sometimes quite small numbers (250-300), which if put on display will be removed by 'members of this forum' types who will quite happily come in and take 10-20 at a time, you soon run out then.
By having them behind the counter generally on actual or prospective passengers ask for them, and the enthusiasts only get 1 and you can actually help the people they are intended for.,
It happened regularly when I was manager of the Pavillions Travelshop, people would come in and take every leaflet in the rack in one swift move!
A timetable leaflet not only to tells intending passengers the new time but sells the service and markets the change.
There is no at bus stop advice of forthcoming changes either which is clearly a failing on the part of Centro policy.
Contrast with recent changes to Trent's Nines between Derby and Mansfield where every bus had new leaflets in advance and all stops had a laminated poster, photo taken 10th May for change on 26th.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/9RvhR8
They can do why can't it happen in the West Midlands.
Quote from: JoNi on June 02, 2016, 06:16:24 PM
A timetable leaflet not only to tells intending passengers the new time but sells the service and markets the change.
There is no at bus stop advice of forthcoming changes either which is clearly a failing on the part of Centro policy.
Contrast with recent changes to Trent's Nines between Derby and Mansfield where every bus had new leaflets in advance and all stops had a laminated poster, photo taken 10th May for change on 26th.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/9RvhR8
They can do why can't it happen in the West Midlands.
I agree, but putting the information on the buses, is surely down to Stagecoach themselves
While waiting to be served in NX travel centre the assistant was valiantly attempting to explain to person in front of me which bus to catch to Smorell Lane and admitted it was difficult as Stagecoach timetables on 55/56/57 routes don't have maps.
The X18 leaflet I obtained has town plans, summary tables but nothing to say what has changed, which includes introduction of hourly daytime Sunday service from Coventry to Evesham!
Centro can't be faulted for having an easy to read starting date, which is more than be said for Stagecoach or Trent for that matter.
Quote from: JoNi on June 02, 2016, 06:46:24 PM
While waiting to be served in NX travel centre the assistant was valiantly attempting to explain to person in front of me which bus to catch to Smorell Lane and admitted it was difficult as Stagecoach timetables on 55/56/57 routes don't have maps.
The X18 leaflet I obtained has town plans, summary tables but nothing to say what has changed, which includes introduction of hourly daytime Sunday service from Coventry to Evesham!
Centro can't be faulted for having an easy to read starting date, which is more than be said for Stagecoach or Trent for that matter.
Centro have however failed to explain the extensions to Stratford and Evesham on the 18 route description and onto Evesham on the X18. Clearly, this is due to the registration of the X18 / 18 being separated to comply with EU Standards.
18402 died on Trinity Street yesterday evening after doing a wee all over the road. It was there for quite a while too until the Support van turned up with the sand and the spare parts.
Quote from: Solo1 on April 29, 2016, 08:17:47 AM
What is the website address for sightseeing stratford on avon as I can't find it any more with the timetable on like the leaflet has
I have created this from looking at the leaflet. Hope this is more helpful.
15452 (MX08GHZ) has just left Coventry on the X18
15448 (MX08GHO) arrived in Coventry on X18 at 15:00.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on May 05, 2016, 06:35:00 PM
For some reason, 39690 has lost its side destination blind
I think I've found out the reason behind this tonight - Mick Merriman and Ian Campbell (Engineering/Operations Managers respectively) had one of the drivers in the office recently to look at CCTV of a certain person (You should know who I mean Ben) sneaking around Nuneaton Garage on either a Sunday or Bank Holiday before stealing an LED blind off one of the buses. I've not seen myself which one it is, but the dates would coincide with 39690's side blind mysteriously vanishing, leaving just the loose wires dangling about.
Quote from: Ally on June 08, 2016, 11:34:30 PM
I think I've found out the reason behind this tonight - Mick Merriman and Ian Campbell (Engineering/Operations Managers respectively) had one of the drivers in the office recently to look at CCTV of a certain person (You should know who I mean Ben) sneaking around Nuneaton Garage on either a Sunday or Bank Holiday before stealing an LED blind off one of the buses. I've not seen myself which one it is, but the dates would coincide with 39690's side blind mysteriously vanishing, leaving just the loose wires dangling about.
I only know that the blind has been gone recently, was there a few months back
18402 seen on X17 working to Stratford.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/dY6BCh
47518 on the X18 in Stratford this afternoon.
Are 15448 and 15452 loans or transfers?
Also where are 18153 and 18155 being allocated?
Thanks in advance
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on June 09, 2016, 04:54:57 PM
Are 15448 and 15452 loans or transfers?
Also where are 18153 and 18155 being allocated?
Thanks in advance
Transfers. And Northampton.
Have the remaining Olympians been withdrawn?
No. 16614 is withdrawn but 16174/16113 are in Leamington and 16873/16695/16460 are in Stratford
Quote from: bensweeney14 on June 09, 2016, 05:59:59 PM
Transfers. And Northampton.
Cheers Ben. Currently composing a current fleetlist.
Re previous post 14542 was got going and loaded up only to be taken out of service and passengers put on bus behind! Lucky enough to get pic of bus going to Evesham before it went dead!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/735PU4
39697 KX08HRE is today on the 55/56/57.
39682 has broke down today. Oh dear!
39697 is making a very rare appearance on lates (back end of 86 duty) tonight, just departed on the 2135 57 to Cross Keys, and will then form the 2230 55 to Nuneaton
Not sure if any of these are rare or not but saw these on 26/X18 in Stratford today
26:10033/18106
X18:15674/15675/15671/18402/17617/47518/15449/15448/15452
Also think there were 4 buses on sightseeing tour so think 1 bus must have been an extra. I saw
17494/17417/17527 and I think 17412. Didn't see any Olympians out.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 22, 2016, 05:03:59 PM
Also think there were 4 buses on sightseeing tour so think 1 bus must have been an extra. I saw
17494/17417/17527 and I think 17412. Didn't see any Olympians out.
All of the Sightseeing Olympians are long gone. I think the summer timetable may have 4 buses on it
Quote from: John on July 22, 2016, 05:11:53 PM
All of the Sightseeing Olympians are long gone. I think the summer timetable may have 4 buses on it
Thought they all were but wasn't sure. Thanks for clarifying that
@John
Now, there's something not quite right here... ;)
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1745901869023701&id=100008117139120
been passed several times and seen one parked inside, not sure what the agreement is, but it does happen
Quote from: jc on July 24, 2016, 09:39:46 PM
been passed several times and seen one parked inside, not sure what the agreement is, but it does happen
I had been route learning the driver, he was "using the services" at the time so I believe that will be a part of an agreement as there is nowhere ele to go. A long while back, they used to tend to each other's broken down vehicles in each other's areas, but not these days...
I just thought it'd make for a good shot :P
Are the 766 and 767 used alot? I always see them fairly empty but that is the odd journey.
From what i understand Ocado help to subsidise the services around there shift patterns, the services to support these are quite heavily used, usually filling an E200, obviously other times of the day, they can be quite dead
@Dutsey The Tamworth - Birch Coppice 766 I did on 213 duty (Sunday, 18.05) was very busy, with at least 30 people on board. It generally tends to be Ocado's picking staff that use the 766/767, but you do get some from Euro Car Parts onboard, and the loads can vary from day to day, I've had them empty with the same journey having around 20 people on the very next day.
the 16:20 767 from Birch Coppice to Nuneaton (Red Deeps) is pretty pointless though.
The daytime 766 tends to be fairly quiet, it's as
@jc says, it's focused around shift times - I did previously work at Ocado.
The 767 was originally intended to start from Bedworth and not the Red Deeps estate in Nuneaton, and Bedworth is actually listed on the ticket machine and fare charts for the 767. The service was originally devised between Stagecoach, Warwickshire County Council and Birch Coppice management. Focusing its timing on shift patterns, and its route on areas of high unemployment - hence its strange route out of Nuneaton (which everyone was taught wrong originally).
At current, the 766/767 tend to be very profitable as there's always somebody who needs a pass, but the numbers vary from 1 person to almost everyone, so you could take £20 one day and £200 the next day.
I had the 04:32 off Red Deeps and by the time it reached Nuneaton Bus Station (04:43), it had taken £82.40.
Additional journeys were added not long back too, 202 duty (Sundays) has a 02:32am start before running dead to take up 767s and 766s.
Cool I was thinking of doing a bash from Tamworth to Redditch on Stagecoach only buses. Looks like I can do it.
Steven Knight Media reports that Enviro 400s 19004/80/82/83/84/88 are due to transfer from Manchester to Midlands. I'm thinking they will join the 3 already at Northampton.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 27, 2016, 11:31:16 AM
Steven Knight Media reports that Enviro 400s 19004/80/82/83/84/88 are due to transfer from Manchester to Midlands. I'm thinking they will join the 3 already at Northampton.
More than likely they will go to Stratford.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on July 27, 2016, 12:23:57 PM
More than likely they will go to Stratford.
Are Leamington still getting new buses later this year Ben?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 27, 2016, 12:42:54 PM
Are Leamington still getting new buses later this year Ben?
Yes, 10726-10733, Enviro400MMC's being branded for the Unibus.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on July 27, 2016, 01:10:24 PM
Yes, 10726-10733, Enviro400MMC's being branded for the Unibus.
Ok thanks
@bensweeney14 :)
Quote from: Dutsey on July 26, 2016, 01:02:17 PM
Cool I was thinking of doing a bash from Tamworth to Redditch on Stagecoach only buses. Looks like I can do it.
Done that several times myself when i was at Ocado, Although only when i wasnt in the next shift, certainly some interesting bashes to be had! Although havent done it for ages now, driving has helped with that haha
766 Ocado - Atherstone
48 Atherstone - Nuneaton
55/56/57 Nuneaton - Coventry
X16 Coventry - Cpventry Uni
U1Coventry Uni - Leamington
68 Leamington - Warwick
X18 or X15 (whichever ran to Warwick) - Stratford
26 Stratford - Studley
Quote from: Ally on July 24, 2016, 11:33:53 PM
I had been route learning the driver, he was "using the services" at the time so I believe that will be a part of an agreement as there is nowhere ele to go.
Do you work for Stagecoach then?
Does anyone know if Stagecoach are operating the rail replacements on the chiltern line that start tomorrow?
Scanias 15444/7 and 15676, as well as two Unibus E400s 10037/9 I think doing site shuttles today at Silverstone along with various open top and closed top Routemasters.
Olympian 16873 had survived into the school holidays. I saw it on the X18 last Monday and it was on the 50 again later in the week. The week before it was on the 26. I hope to have a look around for it again this week.
Quote from: derningtona on August 01, 2016, 07:56:29 PM
Olympian 16873 had survived into the school holidays. I saw it on the X18 last Monday and it was on the 50 again later in the week. The week before it was on the 26. I hope to have a look around for it again this week.
16873 was out Saturday apparently.
I wonder what happened to the repainting of 1567*'s... I seen 15670/1/4 today still advertising the 28 and X15 service... When are Stagecoach finally going to remove these ad's for fresh repaint as it is now almost 2 months after the routes were scrapped!
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/UnR84E
16873 seen leaving Coventry last Saturday.
The destination partially came out on 14th attempt at taking a pic!
You need a much slower shutter speed. On older buses the destinations actually go on and off all the time although it is too fast for the eye to see. It is a problem taking a moving bus as you need quite a high shutter speed to stop the movement. I usually use 1/500 sec and a good half will have no destination showing so I take multiple shots. At rest there shouldn't be a problem with say 1/60 sec. Regards Patrick.
Nowadays I use my mobile phone and don't have a camera.
My images will not be as good as those taken by camera but I can live with that. Thankfully the white destination displays appearing on new buses seem to cure the problem.
In good light - I've generally just used the Auto modes on my digital camera when taking pics of buses, which seems to produce reasonable results. In poorer light/buses at a standstill at night I can dabble with the manual modes.
Some new shelters in Hartshill are now in place...
http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/blog/archives/alerts/new-bus-shelters-for-residents-of-hartshill
Quote from: Dennis on July 29, 2016, 12:17:40 PM
Do you work for Stagecoach then?
Unfortunately not, no. Just helping out a good friend of mine!
The controller was supposed to get another driver out the route learn him but he wasn't convinced the controller would remember so he asked me if I could pop along. The other driver did show up so we took it in turns. 48 - 766 - 118 - 786 - 48.
15676 is now de branded and looks to have been repainted very recently. Saw it today in Coventry on X18. This means it may appear with the new branding soon. I can confirm 15674 is still carrying X15/18 branding though... Will post a photo link of 15676 later
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 11, 2016, 04:48:24 PM
15676 is now de branded and looks to have been repainted very recently. Saw it today in Coventry on X18. This means it may appear with the new branding soon. I can confirm 15674 is still carrying X15/18 branding though... Will post a photo link of 15676 later
15676 was running around Silverstone 2 weeks ago having been debranded.
Quote from: Cheese on August 11, 2016, 08:48:35 PM
15676 was running around Silverstone 2 weeks ago having been debranded.
Oh right. I'm sure the others will be rebranded soon anyway
Do the buses on the 26 still come off other routes at certain times?
If so which departures from Redditch?
@bensweeney14 ?
15673 is on the 26 today
26 is just anything they have spare
Some sightings from Rugby today:
16685 still withdrawn at the back
1 of either 19004/19088 is at the back of rugby.
A 15 branded Northampton Enviro 200 is at the back, preferably for repairs
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on August 20, 2016, 06:23:12 PM
Some sightings from Rugby today:
1 of either 19004/19088 is at the back of rugby.
19004 has been out on the 3 service today in Rugby according to a Facebook post.
16873 about in Stratford this afternoon.
Some observations in Leamington today:
10034/10035/10040 on 65/66/67
Rugby 34625 on 67
18398 on 75
I think that the 28/X15/X18 branded Scania Enviro 400s are being repainted as I didn't see any of them today. Just 15676 which has already been repainted out of X15/X18 livery
http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
19004/19088 now in service at Rugby releasing 17127/17613 to reserve
35179 now at Kettering from Leamington
34494 in reserve at Kettering
16113 now at Leamington in reserve
15673 was in Coventry yesterday afternoon on X18 still with 28 branding.
17127 & 17613 were at work in Northampton today, so not sure if they are in reserve yet.
Quote from: JIM H on August 25, 2016, 07:37:32 PM
17127 & 17613 were at work in Northampton today, so not sure if they are in reserve yet.
No maybe not yet. Think Midlands are expecting some more Enviro 400s as well
Anything new for X4?
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on September 04, 2016, 08:50:09 PM
Anything new for X4?
When I saw a list of new buses for this year the only Midlands ones were for Leamington Unibus but there may be next year ??
36207 has been repainted and has even been treated to a set of front hub caps like the MANs have.
47075 suffered minor damage tonight after a chav tried to get away without paying and was then refused child fare (rightfully).
New Leamington Spa garage
https://www.wrighthassall.co.uk/about-us/wh-news/2016/09/16/stagecoach-put-wheels-motion-new-55-million-bus-de/
Quote from: Tony on September 16, 2016, 09:00:45 PM
New Leamington Spa garage
https://www.wrighthassall.co.uk/about-us/wh-news/2016/09/16/stagecoach-put-wheels-motion-new-55-million-bus-de/
LOL, you know you getting on a bit when garages you regard as "new" are due to be closed and redeveloped! Remember when this garage opened in Western Travel days replacing Myton Road.
Are Olympians still in service? If so what routes? Thanks
Wonder if the Stratford on Avon services will run from the new depot at Warwick as it's says Evesham leaving Stratford to run the Sightseeing service unless they also move the sightseeing buses to a smaller depot.
Quote from: Solo1 on September 18, 2016, 07:17:31 PM
Wonder if the Stratford on Avon services will run from the new depot at Warwick as it's says Evesham leaving Stratford to run the Sightseeing service unless they also move the sightseeing buses to a smaller depot.
New depot in Warwick? That's news to me!
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 18, 2016, 07:22:32 PM
New depot in Warwick? That's news to me!
Have a look at my post only 4 above yours!
Should of said when the new depot opens will the Stratford upon Avon services run from there as it says Evesham in the write up
Quote from: Solo1 on September 18, 2016, 07:51:35 PM
Should of said when the new depot opens will the Stratford upon Avon services run from there as it says Evesham in the write up
Leamington & Stratford currently share the X18 that goes to Evesham.
If the article had said "Shipston" or "Redditch", it would be more obvious that the two garages would merge. There has been rumours about this for years.
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2016, 07:25:46 PM
Have a look at my post only 4 above yours!
I have believe it or not, someone said the new garage is Warwick, I know exactly where it is, and it is Leamington.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 18, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
I have believe it or not, someone said the new garage is Warwick, I know exactly where it is, and it is Leamington.
The address is Trident Park, Poseidon Way, Warwick
Quote from: Tony on September 18, 2016, 08:53:01 PM
The address is Trident Park, Poseidon Way, Warwick
''Trident Park
Poseidon Way
Leamington Spa
CV34 6SW''
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 18, 2016, 08:57:19 PM
''Trident Park
Poseidon Way
Leamington Spa
CV34 6SW''
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Warwick+Trident+College/@52.269158,-1.535651,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x8ce8179a429b6a62!8m2!3d52.269158!4d-1.535651
"Trident Park, Poseidon Way, Warwick CV34 6SW"
https://www.warwickshire.ac.uk/colleges/warwick_trident_college/getting_to_us.aspx
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Trident+Park,+Poseidon+Way,+Leamington+Spa+CV34+6SW/@52.2695276,-1.5394254,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x4877349e8d91ede3:0x5ee74effff300d45!8m2!3d52.2695798!4d-1.5367267
Trident College is in Warwick, but Trident Park is in Leamington. Google is strange sometimes haha
Quote from: 2206 on September 18, 2016, 08:58:24 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Warwick+Trident+College/@52.269158,-1.535651,15z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x8ce8179a429b6a62!8m2!3d52.269158!4d-1.535651
"Trident Park, Poseidon Way, Warwick CV34 6SW"
https://www.warwickshire.ac.uk/colleges/warwick_trident_college/getting_to_us.aspx
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Poseidon+Way&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=RPLeV88VwY3xB9zxh_AK
Poseidon Way, Royal Leamington Spa, Warwick CV34 6SW
It's Leamington Spa which falls under Warwick
Quote from: Winston on September 18, 2016, 09:02:24 PM
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Poseidon+Way&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=RPLeV88VwY3xB9zxh_AK
Poseidon Way, Royal Leamington Spa, Warwick CV34 6SW
It's Leamington Spa which falls under Warwick
It's both in a way then haha, knowing the area Trident Park is definately more Leamington than Warwick, but hard to say since the 2 towns are so close!
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 18, 2016, 08:57:19 PM
''Trident Park
Poseidon Way
Leamington Spa
CV34 6SW''
Not according to the Royal Mail
The post code you quoted comes up as
A Fine Pair of Shoes Ltd
Trident Park
Poseidon Way
WARWICK
CV34 6SW
It seems to be one of those weird things, a little like how a bit further north of the County, Exhall is in Bedworth and is well beyond the "Welcome to Nuneaton and Bedworth" signs, yet the addresses show Coventry and have Coventry postcodes despite paying their rates to Warwickshire County Council.
I vote we just call the new depot "Warrington Depot" :P
Quote from: Ally on September 19, 2016, 11:15:47 PM
It seems to be one of those weird things, a little like how a bit further north of the County, Exhall is in Bedworth and is well beyond the "Welcome to Nuneaton and Bedworth" signs, yet the addresses show Coventry and have Coventry postcodes despite paying their rates to Warwickshire County Council.
I vote we just call the new depot "Warrington Depot" :P
It is a strange one, using my very good local area knowledge, it is definately Leamington, but other things are saying Warwick as
@Tony posted etc, its a strange one!
On the X46/47 buses in Northampton, behind the door it says Midland Red South. Shouldn't it say United Counties? ???
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on September 20, 2016, 10:56:31 PM
On the X46/47 buses in Northampton, behind the door it says Midland Red South. Shouldn't it say United Counties? ???
No such operating company as United Counties
New Leamington Enviro400MMC's have started to arrive, they have the following fleet numbers and registrations:
10726 SN66 VWS
10727 SN66 VWT
10728 SN66 VWU
10729 SN66 VWV
10730 SN66 VWW
10731 SN66 VWX
10732 SN66 VWY
10733 SN66 VXA
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2016, 08:06:18 AM
No such operating company as United Counties
I thought it's Stagecoach Northaptonshire?
Perhaps I'm wrong.
@Tony maybe you should update the Midlands fleetlist? Some of the new Manchester Trident Enviros are not on there and there are no MMCs either.
I've just updated mine:
http://ebtm.comxa.com/Buses/StagecoachMidlands.html
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on September 21, 2016, 12:00:18 PM
@Tony maybe you should update the Midlands fleetlist? Some of the new Manchester Trident Enviros are not on there and there are no MMCs either.
I've just updated mine:
http://ebtm.comxa.com/Buses/StagecoachMidlands.html
Tony updates his website every month so I am sure he will add them then.
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 21, 2016, 06:00:12 PM
Tony updates his website every month so I am sure he will add them then.
Correct
I update my website when I receive the official information Stagecoach supply, not what enthusiasts see.
Quote from: Tony on September 21, 2016, 06:39:50 PM
Correct
I update my website when I receive the official information Stagecoach supply, not what enthusiasts see.
How do you get your info then?
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on September 21, 2016, 11:50:54 AM
I thought it's Stagecoach Northaptonshire?
Perhaps I'm wrong.
It's Stagecoach Midlands operating in Warwickshire and Northamptonshire, running on the Midland Red (South) licence.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on September 21, 2016, 06:41:25 PM
How do you get your info then?
Fleet cards is one way of getting official information, MBonwick is the website, search Google
Fleet changes according to http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
Sold to Ensign Bus are Volvo Olympians 16459/16694/96/98/99
16460 and 16695 are now awaiting disposal
Trident 18147 has been transferred back to Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire
Enviro 19083/84 at Corby has seen Tridents 17212 and 17697 withdrawn
19080/82 at Stratford have replaced the Volvo Olympians
19089 at Northampton has ousted 17695 for disposal
19087 at Kettering has allowed 17060 to be withdrawn
Trident 18149 is now allocated to Northampton
MAN/Enviro 200 39700 is back in service at Northampton, whilst 39694/95 are at Nuneaton and will be joined by 39698 following repaint.
Trident 17613 is now allocated to Kettering
Dart SLF 34772 transferred from Kettering to Stratford.
Optare Solos 47070-74 withdrawn at Nuneaton and replaced by 47510/12/47651/52/54
Nuneaton Darts 34594 and 34627 in the Reserve Fleet and 34595 for disposal
Dart SLF 34491 and Optare Solos 47046/69 and 47409 for disposal
MAN/ALX300 22375 for conversion to a training vehicle
15671 seen this evening branded for X18 with advert for Leamingham Spa on back.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/W1MUt0
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on September 22, 2016, 04:34:36 PM
Fleet changes according to http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
Sold to Ensign Bus are Volvo Olympians 16459/16694/96/98/99
16460 and 16695 are now awaiting disposal
Trident 18147 has been transferred back to Stagecoach Merseyside & South Lancashire
Enviro 19083/84 at Corby has seen Tridents 17212 and 17697 withdrawn
19080/82 at Stratford have replaced the Volvo Olympians
19089 at Northampton has ousted 17695 for disposal
19087 at Kettering has allowed 17060 to be withdrawn
Trident 18149 is now allocated to Northampton
MAN/Enviro 200 39700 is back in service at Northampton, whilst 39694/95 are at Nuneaton and will be joined by 39698 following repaint.
Trident 17613 is now allocated to Kettering
Dart SLF 34772 transferred from Kettering to Stratford.
Optare Solos 47070-74 withdrawn at Nuneaton and replaced by 47510/12/47651/52/54
Nuneaton Darts 34594 and 34627 in the Reserve Fleet and 34595 for disposal
Dart SLF 34491 and Optare Solos 47046/69 and 47409 for disposal
MAN/ALX300 22375 for conversion to a training vehicle
Either some of that is wrong or hasn't happened yet, I got off 47071 on the 56 about an hour ago and 47074 was on the same journey yesterday
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 22, 2016, 07:33:11 PM
PMSL, where did you get that info from? a lucky dip?
Actually Steven Knight's information normally comes from the company
Quote from: Tony on September 22, 2016, 07:40:14 PM
Actually Steven Knight's information normally comes from the company
I withdraw my comment, I didnt realise it was from Steve's website, no movement as of yet but ill keep it posted, one Nuneaton Dart running board is now replaced by a MAN E200 though
Quote from: Ally on September 22, 2016, 07:36:23 PM
Either some of that is wrong or hasn't happened yet, I got off 47071 on the 56 about an hour ago and 47074 was on the same journey yesterday
Hasn't happened yet, the 15:51 55 off Nuneaton (Usually a Dart, comes off Locals 3/41 etc) is now a MAN E200, was 39697 Monday and Tuesday and the dreaded shed 39683 today
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 26, 2016, 04:23:39 PM
39693/39689 - 48. Mega!
How are these unusual if they happen every day.
Quote from: 2206 on September 26, 2016, 04:41:43 PM
How are these unusual if they happen every day.
As said before, it shouldn't happen. It is not on the allocation sheet to do so.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 26, 2016, 05:14:01 PM
As said before, it shouldn't happen. It is not on the allocation sheet to do so.
You've been posting that there are a couple on there every day for the past 2/3 months now, it is getting quite tedious now.
Unusual means not habitually or commonly occurring or done and they are definitely not unusual.
Quote from: 2206 on September 26, 2016, 05:18:44 PM
You've been posting that there are a couple on there every day for the past 2/3 months now, it is getting quite tedious now.
Unusual means not habitually or commonly occurring or done and they are definitely not unusual.
That's nice to know!
39688 KX08LVJ unfortunately involved in an accident yesterday, not seen it myself but it is quite bad unfortunately :'(
Nuneaton's 39695 is now out and on the road
New Enviro MMC 10726 has appeared at Warwick Uni on U1.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/54F5SB
Quote from: JoNi on October 07, 2016, 06:14:56 PM
New Enviro MMC 10726 has appeared at Warwick Uni on U1.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/54F5SB
I was going to ask what's happening with 10032-41?
I expected the new Unibuses to be in an updated version of the branded livery. The older Unibuses keep going often appearing on the X17. U1 also has Darts and the odd President.
22841 - 86 earlier this evening
Quote from: Sandy Lane on October 07, 2016, 10:07:55 PM
22841 - 86 earlier this evening
Common, and wrong thread.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on October 08, 2016, 08:09:09 PM
Common, and wrong thread.
whoops, which is the best thread then. Sorry.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on October 09, 2016, 01:34:28 PM
whoops, which is the best thread then. Sorry.
''Unusual Workings - Stagecoach''
47510 on the road in Nuneaton on the 1/2/9
All the details of a heritage event in Stratford using the FLF and RML
http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/the-steven-knight-media-blog
47652 now in service at Nuneaton, on the 3 today.
34628 is on the X17 tonight. Think it's worth mentioning
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 15, 2016, 07:38:32 PM
34628 is on the X17 tonight. Think it's worth mentioning
Post this in "Stagecoach - unusual workings" :)
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on October 15, 2016, 10:07:35 PM
Post this in "Stagecoach - unusual workings" :)
It isn't Unusual - It is just a transfer. :)
One of Nuneaton's recent ex-Gold arrivals was rather nastily attacked by chavs on Thursday night on the 48, being hit by at least 5 rocks/bricks.
47077 has also suffered a rather nasty front end accident, including front axle damage and could possibly be a write off.
I've also learned that Nuneaton have put in a bid for the next set of vehicle orders for 25 Gold spec single decks for the 48 route - I doubt I'll know if it's successful or not until well after it's announced.
Quote from: Ally on October 22, 2016, 07:30:21 PM
One of Nuneaton's recent ex-Gold arrivals was rather nastily attacked by chavs on Thursday night on the 48, being hit by at least 5 rocks/bricks.
47077 has also suffered a rather nasty front end accident, including front axle damage and could possibly be a write off.
I've also learned that Nuneaton have put in a bid for the next set of vehicle orders for 25 Gold spec single decks for the 48 route - I doubt I'll know if it's successful or not until well after it's announced.
Bus is attacked on this route
Same route in bidding for new buses
Le sigh
MMC 10728 has just departed Coventry on the U17 to Sydenham. It's currently got no vinyl's on including no Stagecoach logo. Only in the standard Stagecoach livery.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on October 23, 2016, 11:29:48 AM
MMC 10728 has just departed Coventry on the U17 to Sydenham. It's currently got no vinyl's on including no Stagecoach logo. Only in the standard Stagecoach livery.
None of them have logos or vinyls yet.
Quote from: Dom on October 23, 2016, 07:43:00 PM
None of them have logos or vinyls yet.
Yeah I've noticed.
While travelling on A45 between Coventry and Rugby today I noticed a Stratford Sightseeing Olympian in a rather run-down state in a layby. Anyone know anything about it?
Quote from: Kevin on October 22, 2016, 10:17:48 PM
Bus is attacked on this route
Same route in bidding for new buses
Le sigh
Load of crap, a bus could be attacked on the G1 run by gold spec 65 plate Solos...
Quote from: bensweeney14 on October 23, 2016, 11:20:22 PM
Load of crap, a bus could be attacked on the G1 run by gold spec 65 plate Solos...
Tbf I should probably have put those two statements the other way round.
I was more referring to the idea of yet another case of scum being scummy
Quote from: Kevin on October 24, 2016, 07:42:06 AM
Tbf I should probably have put those two statements the other way round.
I was more referring to the idea of yet another case of scum being scummy
I was told an NXC 20 also got it on the same night - although that would have to be confirmed, I've actually seen the Stagecoach Solo in question for myself. It could happen on any route at any time to be honest. But I do agree, too much scum about! Side effects of not being able to reasonably chastise children anymore - and this is coming from a 23 year old!
1. PD0000479/54 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Variation Accepted: Operating between Rugby and Leamington given service number 63/64/64A effective from 18-Dec-2016. To amend Timetable.
2. PD0000479/238 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Variation Accepted: Operating between LA and Leamington Trinity School given service number 557 effective from 18-Dec-2016. To amend Timetable.
3. PD0000479/246 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Variation Accepted: Operating between Daventry and Leamington given service number 65 effective from 18-Dec-2016. To amend Timetable.
4. PD0000479/289 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry and Leamington given service number X69 effective from 18-Dec-2016. To amend Timetable.
5. PD0000479/298 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stratford and Chipping Norton given service number 50 effective from 18-Dec-2016. To amend Timetable
Quote from: Solo1 on October 28, 2016, 03:51:25 PM
PD0000479/246 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Variation Accepted: Operating between Daventry and Leamington given service number 65 effective from 18-Dec-2016. To amend Timetable.
Rumoured to only be 1 journey a day Monday to Friday.
Quote from: Solo1 on October 28, 2016, 03:51:25 PM
PD0000479/289 - MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD T/A STAGECOACH MIDLANDS, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Variation Accepted: Operating between Coventry and Leamington given service number X69 effective from 18-Dec-2016. To amend Timetable.
Wonder what this is... X68???
Quote from: Adam 404 on October 28, 2016, 03:54:49 PM
Rumoured to only be 1 journey a day Monday to Friday.
Yes, Northants CC website confirms this:
http://www3.northamptonshire.gov.uk/councilservices/northamptonshire-highways/buses/Pages/news-of-bus-service-changes.aspx (http://www3.northamptonshire.gov.uk/councilservices/northamptonshire-highways/buses/Pages/news-of-bus-service-changes.aspx)
22839 is unbranded (Seen on 1 today)
39698/9/700 are now at Northampton (698 seen on one, 699 and 700 on 8)
Rugby depot having the concrete ramp on Railway Terrace ripped by a digger today. Looks like some big building work going on
Quote from: Dom on October 23, 2016, 07:43:00 PM
None of them have logos or vinyls yet.
10728 & 10732 have logos now
The Scania/E400s on X4 are expected to be replaced by MMCs next year. Any idea where the current lot will go?
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on November 16, 2016, 04:03:13 PM
My fleetlist updated (With pictures!)
http://ebtm.comxa.com/Buses/StagecoachMidlands.html
the link don't work
Quote from: Solo1 on November 28, 2016, 02:10:15 PM
the link don't work
Sorry...I ran out of space on my site and I will be re-launching it soon!
39699 and 39700 are now Nuneatons!
Quote from: bensweeney14 on December 06, 2016, 05:33:46 PM
39699 and 39700 are now Nuneatons!
I haven't seen them in Northampton. However, 39698 was on the one today.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on December 07, 2016, 06:48:47 PM
I haven't seen them in Northampton. However, 39698 was on the one today.
Thats because they have moved to Nuneaton believe it or not!!
36220 on the 86 has a real noisy back axle and sounds like something is on the way out. Can the cost of fitting a new diff be justified or could its days be numbered? How does the Fleet Engineer make the call?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 20, 2016, 09:03:56 PM
36220 on the 86 has a real noisy back axle and sounds like something is on the way out. Can the cost of fitting a new diff be justified or could its days be numbered? How does the Fleet Engineer make the call?
Yes, of course it can. What makes you think its the diff anyway?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 20, 2016, 09:03:56 PM
36220 on the 86 has a real noisy back axle and sounds like something is on the way out. Can the cost of fitting a new diff be justified or could its days be numbered? How does the Fleet Engineer make the call?
Scrap the thing. The gearbox and turbo are knackered on 36220 too.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on January 05, 2017, 10:26:42 PM
Scrap the thing. The gearbox and turbo are knackered on 36220 too.
It's 36220 they're talking about. It's not that old, I think they'll repair it.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on January 06, 2017, 12:27:30 PM
It's 36220 they're talking about. It's not that old, I think they'll repair it.
I suppose thats my question really. At what stage in the vehicles life does it not make sense to replace a major component like a diff, gearbox or turbo, or whatever?
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on January 06, 2017, 12:27:30 PM
It's 36220 they're talking about. It's not that old, I think they'll repair it.
Well done Mr Clever, I clearly stated I was on about 36220...
Ally's comment started with said fleetnumber. Your initial reply reads "36220 too" so why the unnecessary attitude?
Let's cut all this talk. It's 36220 and we all know it.
Stagecoach West 17729 is now with Stagecoach Midlands at Kettering depot!
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on January 09, 2017, 12:24:31 PM
Stagecoach West 17729 is now with Stagecoach Midlands at Kettering depot!
17722/17728 are also at Stagecoach Midlands at the moment. According to http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings they are only on loan though
I saw 22374 driver training at Northampton!
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on January 13, 2017, 10:30:12 AM
I saw 22374 driver training at Northampton!
Nornal, the driver training route includes Northampton and 22374 is out most weekdays
Not sure about this...
Is 50312 at Rugby or not?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on January 09, 2017, 03:29:40 PM
17722/17728 are also at Stagecoach Midlands at the moment. According to http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings they are only on loan though
17722 is working from Leamington
17728/9 are working from Kettering
@YN63 BYJ
From Steven Knight Media
➨Stagecoach Midlands
Following the transfer of some work from Stratford to Leamington, Scania/Enviro 400s 15448/49/72 along with Tridents 17567, 18103/06, 18322/23/71 and Dart SLF 34772 have transferred over to Leamington along with Optare Solo 47653 which is now in the Reserve Fleet. Withdrawn for disposal from Northampton is Volvo B10M training coach 52434.
Optare Solo 47402, which has been awaiting disposal has been returned to the main fleet at Kettering. Vehicles now for disposal here include Tridents 17037, 17613 (Kettering), 17076, 17614/17 (Reserve Fleet), 17127 (Rugby), 17694/96 (Leamington) along with Optare Solos 47045, 47128 (Delicenced) and 47406 (Kettering). Also for disposal is Dart SLF 34628 from Leamington.
Rugby-allocated Dart SLF 34499 is now in the Reserve Fleet., whilst Reserve Fleet 34494 has moved from Kettering to Rugby.
Anyone know where 15196 is these days?
15935-43 (X46/7 branded) are recieving names!
15937 (YN63BYC) is named Michael Barlow
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on January 13, 2017, 02:29:38 PM
Not sure about this...
Is 50312 at Rugby or not?
That one has been everywhere but Glasgow recently. Think I travelled on it between Cardiff and London last September.
According to UKbuses (http://ukbuses.co.uk/fleet/stagecoachmidlands.pdf (http://ukbuses.co.uk/fleet/stagecoachmidlands.pdf)) 39699/700 are back at Northampton. Not sure if theis is true as they also claim that 15196 is at Kettering although it's been on X46/7 this week.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on January 28, 2017, 06:28:20 PM
According to UKbuses (http://ukbuses.co.uk/fleet/stagecoachmidlands.pdf (http://ukbuses.co.uk/fleet/stagecoachmidlands.pdf)) 39699/700 are back at Northampton. Not sure if theis is true as they also claim that 15196 is at Kettering although it's been on X46/7 this week.
Check the date column. If it's not recent then just follow SKM site, this site or fleetcards. One of those two MAN's is at Northampton I do know but in reserve.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 28, 2017, 11:23:02 PM
Check the date column. If it's not recent then just follow SKM site, this site or fleetcards. One of those two MAN's is at Northampton I do know but in reserve.
fleetcards?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on January 28, 2017, 11:23:02 PM
Check the date column. If it's not recent then just follow SKM site, this site or fleetcards. One of those two MAN's is at Northampton I do know but in reserve.
No, 39699 and 39700 are at Nuneaton with 699 in reserve, 39698 is at Northampton.
From Steven Knight Media:
Scania/Enviro 300 28623 is currently out of service following fire damage and has been replaced by MAN/Enviro 200 39699 which was in the Reserve Fleet at Nuneaton. At Kettering Optare Solo 47402 and Dart SLF 34824 are now both in the Reserve Fleet whilst Dart SLF 34494 from the Reserve Fleet at Rugby is now for disposal. Trident 17615 and Dart SLF 34641 have been sold to A H Hardwick whilst Corby Star-liveried Optare Solo 47338 has been sold to Ensign Bus.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on February 07, 2017, 08:53:28 PM
From Steven Knight Media:
Scania/Enviro 300 28623 is currently out of service following fire damage and has been replaced by MAN/Enviro 200 39699 which was in the Reserve Fleet at Nuneaton. At Kettering Optare Solo 47402 and Dart SLF 34824 are now both in the Reserve Fleet whilst Dart SLF 34494 from the Reserve Fleet at Rugby is now for disposal. Trident 17615 and Dart SLF 34641 have been sold to A H Hardwick whilst Corby Star-liveried Optare Solo 47338 has been sold to Ensign Bus.
All of the latest moves will be on the main site later tonight including all these
Full marks to Stagecoach for new 48, 55, 56, 57 timetable.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/P8bDQ8
Quote from: JoNi on March 11, 2017, 09:20:53 AM
Full marks to Stagecoach for new 48, 55, 56, 57 timetable.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/P8bDQ8
Should see some of the running times they give some routes though, the first 56 of the day does not need 41 minutes from Bedworth to Coventry!
There's a few confusing ones too like the 1947 55 getting to Nuneaton 15 mins after the 2002 despite the approximately 10 min diversion to Keresley being the only difference on the 2 journeys. There's 2 morning buses (55 and 57) that get to Ash Green towards Bedworth both at 0801, the 57 takes a longer route and picks up loads of school kids yet get 8 minutes less time to do it.
Then there's the 56 changes which are barely going to make a difference to the 30+ mins late they operate on Sundays, it'll help a little bit but why the Council decided against allowing them to stick it on the 48, the Leicester journeys of which get over 40 minutes layover, is beyond me!
Also the weekday 55/56 aren't even every 30 minutes, it's 25/35 weirdly.
What I'd have done instead on all of this is:
55 - More running time between Nuneaton and Bedworth, less running time between Bedworth and Coventry
56 - As above, Sunday service to GE Hospital withdrawn
57 - Kepts as previous route but extended to Nuneaton, direct along Nuneaton Road to Bermuda Island then down the GE Hospital then into the town, then extended beyond Nuneaton to Hinckley (like it previously did) to replace the extension on the 10 which is very unpopular with drivers.
This would give a more frequent service from Nuneaton to Coventry via Ash Green and Holbrooks. Stop late running 10 services having to cut Grove Farm out and prevent the need for the 57 to have a reduced frequency.
The 57 would also provide an extra fast service between Nuneaton and Bedworth.
My comments were in relation to the timetable leaflet itself.
Another enthusiast commented people were getting to work late at Prologis after the changes
10733, 15453, 15455 on hire to Stagecoach West for Cheltenham Races.
17722 and 17728 returned to Stagecoach West (leaving just 17729)
19108 and 19129 could join Stagecoach Midlands
http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings/march-15th-2017
19108 that should read, is a beast. Happily have that at Midlands!
39689 is currently (since the 4th) unable to display 55 Nuneaton on its blinds and has to go round with 55A on it instead, something that is causing a lot of confusion amongst passengers who are already confused by the service changes.
Deckers for Nuneaton? Observed is 19129 and 19108 sat in the yard after arriving today.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on March 18, 2017, 07:07:32 PM
Deckers for Nuneaton? Observed is 19129 and 19108 sat in the yard after arriving today.
Not sure if they're just resting/being prepped for elsewhere, but I have heard whispers of school work possibly being taken on, there's not really anything else for them to go on if the 48 is getting the new stuff next year though and E400s are a bit new for that. I suppose that all will be revealed in due course...
Quote from: bensweeney14 on March 18, 2017, 07:07:32 PM
Deckers for Nuneaton? Observed is 19129 and 19108 sat in the yard after arriving today.
Expect they'll end up in Kettering
15445 is back with Midlands and on X4 today
Just as I predicted, 19108 is at Kettering depot and is on X10 today!
PD0000479/244 Cancelled
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD
Route: Solihull to Warwickshire College
Service number: L62 (62)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Jul 2017
PD0000479/248 Cancelled
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD
Route: Banbury to Warwickshire College
Service number: SX66 (X66)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Jul 2017
Does anyone know what is usually used on the 62?
15749 KX61DLV, which caught fire in early 2016, is back in service at Kettering.
Quote from: 2206 on April 07, 2017, 04:51:48 PM
PD0000479/244 Cancelled
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD
Route: Solihull to Warwickshire College
Service number: L62 (62)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Jul 2017
PD0000479/248 Cancelled
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD
Route: Banbury to Warwickshire College
Service number: SX66 (X66)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 22 Jul 2017
Does anyone know what is usually used on the 62?
It's been an ADL Pointer Dart whenever I've seen it, not sure if that's changed in recent times though
Quote from: Ally on April 07, 2017, 05:25:50 PM
It's been an ADL Pointer Dart whenever I've seen it, not sure if that's changed in recent times though
Think it usually is. I looked it up and all I could find was Darts.
Fleet Changes
Vehicles sold to A H Hardwick (dealer) are Tridents 17037/76, 17127, 17613/14/17 and 17694/96 along with Volvo B10M training coach 52434. Trident 17729 is reported out of use at Kettering awaiting return off loan to Stagecoach West. Recent ADL Enviro 400 transfer from Stagecoach West 19108 is allocated to Kettering whilst 19129 is in the Reserve Fleet at Rugby. Dart SLF 34628 is no longer awaiting disposal here and has been returned to service at Kettering. Dart SLF 35180 has transferred from Corby to Leamington, releasing Enviro 200 36759 to transfer from Leamington to Nuneaton. Optare Solo 47404, which had been in the Reserve Fleet at Kettering is now allocated to the main fleet at Corby whilst MAN/Enviro 200 39699 is back in the main fleet at Northampton allowing Optare Solo 47510 to return to Nuneaton.
22835 withdrawn with crash damage.
Replaced on the 1 by 15943
Nuneaton's new buses seem to now be the full size MMCs and not the Midi ones as originally reported... That will make them the first company owned full size buses new to Nuneaton since the B10Ms! It'll be good to actually have full size buses on the 48 at last...
Quote from: Ally on April 19, 2017, 12:25:49 PM
Nuneaton's new buses seem to now be the full size MMCs and not the Midi ones as originally reported... That will make them the first company owned full size buses new to Nuneaton since the B10Ms! It'll be good to actually have full size buses on the 48 at last...
Are Tridents not full size buses?
http://wmbusphotos.com/Stagecoach/18502.html
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2017, 12:30:12 PM
Are Tridents not full size buses?
The B10Ms lasted longer than the Tridents at Nuneaton, I think.
Quote from: Tony on April 19, 2017, 12:30:12 PM
Are Tridents not full size buses?
Apologies, that was supposed to have read "Full size single deck buses", I was in a bit of a rush at the time of writing...
35174 broken down on Sky Blue Way in Cov this afternoon causing traffic problems. Was about to be towed away.
Stratford Blue rm parked at Leamington Spa depot
Quote from: Solo1 on April 29, 2017, 08:52:14 AM
Stratford Blue rm parked at Leamington Spa depot
They are transitioning all vehicles other to Trident Park over the weekend I believe.
Leamington Spa depot is now empty went pasted there about 8pm & not 1 bus parked there
Quote from: Solo1 on April 29, 2017, 09:13:20 PM
Leamington Spa depot is now empty went pasted there about 8pm & not 1 bus parked there
Leamington is now closed and Trident Park is open.
The new 48's will be numbered 26168-202 and the displaced E200s will go to Trident Pk, Rugby and Kettering depots.
And finally (last but DEFINITELY not least) Midland Red South is bidding for new X4s for next year. This year's bid was turned down but the current 5-year-old batch are looking very tired, they feel it too.
http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
Where do you get this info from?
And where is Trident Park? Coming from what I've heard, The new MMC sheds on order for the 48 will displace the MAN E200s (unfortunately😡) and they will end up in Rugby.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on May 01, 2017, 12:11:20 AM
Where do you get this info from?
From the link he posted with the info above.
http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
Quote from: bensweeney14 on May 01, 2017, 12:11:20 AM
Where do you get this info from?
And where is Trident Park? Coming from what I've heard, The new MMC sheds on order for the 48 will displace the MAN E200s (unfortunately😡) and they will end up in Rugby.
I'd guess that the MANs will stay at Nuneaton and the ex-48's will end up in Rugby. Trident Park is the new Leamington Spa/Warwick depot.
any photos of the new depot been a sunday would made a nice pic with most buses in & how more bigger is it compared with the station approach one
Quote from: Solo1 on May 01, 2017, 04:47:52 PM
any photos of the new depot been a sunday would made a nice pic with most buses in & how more bigger is it compared with the station approach one
Is it bigger?
Does anyone know what the current status of Stratford depot is? There was a tale that it would close when Trident Park opened. I'd assumed that the transfer of several Stratford vehicles to Leamington earlier this year was the start of the closure process.
Quote from: DeanM66A on May 01, 2017, 11:10:13 PM
Is it bigger?
Does anyone know what the current status of Stratford depot is? There was a tale that it would close when Trident Park opened. I'd assumed that the transfer of several Stratford vehicles to Leamington earlier this year was the start of the closure process.
As far as I know, Stratford only has the 5 open toppers left but 17575 was at Northampton depot last weekend.
Wonder if they will move the sightseeing buses to a smaller depot
Stratford staying open for now but all maintenance etc is Leamington done. The new depot has 10 pits and is fairly big in size, bigger than the old one.
Stratford is now an outstation of Leamington (as from 18 December 2016, when several duties and vehicles transferred to Leamington). It has a fixed allocation of buses - currently 5 open top Tridents, 2 ADL Enviro 400s and 6 Scania Enviro 400s. Stratford still has some duties on the X18, 26 and 50.
The new Leamington depot is large enough to house Stratford's fleet, but I understand that whatever past thoughts may have been, there are no plans for Stratford to close.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on May 02, 2017, 10:14:16 PM
Stratford is now an outstation of Leamington (as from 18 December 2016, when several duties and vehicles transferred to Leamington). It has a fixed allocation of buses - currently 5 open top Tridents, 2 ADL Enviro 400s and 6 Scania Enviro 400s. Stratford still has some duties on the X18, 26 and 50.
The new Leamington depot is large enough to house Stratford's fleet, but I understand that whatever past thoughts may have been, there are no plans for Stratford to close.
Thanks very much for your reply - very informative. My suspicion, based on a brief visit to Stratford yesterday, is that at least some of the 8 vehicles allocated to Stratford have been changed. Yesterday there were Tridents on the 50 (17511) and the X19 (17567) whilst the 19 had an E200 from the 3694x series. However, these are, according to the spreadsheet on this site, the usual allocations for these routes, yet they would seem to be the obvious candidates for allocation to Stratford.
Quote from: DeanM66A on May 03, 2017, 10:32:03 AM
Thanks very much for your reply - very informative. My suspicion, based on a brief visit to Stratford yesterday, is that at least some of the 8 vehicles allocated to Stratford have been changed. Yesterday there were Tridents on the 50 (17511) and the X19 (17567) whilst the 19 had an E200 from the 3694x series. However, these are, according to the spreadsheet on this site, the usual allocations for these routes, yet they would seem to be the obvious candidates for allocation to Stratford.
I think that the 19 is a Leamington operation as I believe that the bus comes from an X17 (though I may be wrong). The 50 has been Stratford based X18 branded Scania Enviro 400's in recent times as well.
Yes, the 19 is a Leamington operation - it has been since February. Leamington also have duties on the X19 (I said 26 in error yesterday) and the 50. Stratford doesn't have any duties on the X17, so I think the X19s that interwork with the X17 are all run by Leamington.
However, if Stratford are short of buses, they borrow from Leamington.
22375 is now in Gold livery and based at Northampton
Transferred from Corby's main fleet into the Reserve Fleet is Trident 18128, being replaced in the main fleet by Dart SLF 34824 which has been in the Reserve Fleet at Kettering. Optare Solo 47418 has been transferred from the main fleet at Kettering to the Reserve Fleet. Following conversion to a training vehicle MAN/ALX300 22375 is allocated to Nuneaton. Volvo B10M/Alexander PS training vehicle 20215 has transferred from Nuneaton to Northampton and is being used for CPC training.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 06, 2017, 03:02:01 PM
Transferred from Corby's main fleet into the Reserve Fleet is Trident 18128, being replaced in the main fleet by Dart SLF 34824 which has been in the Reserve Fleet at Kettering. Optare Solo 47418 has been transferred from the main fleet at Kettering to the Reserve Fleet. Following conversion to a training vehicle MAN/ALX300 22375 is allocated to Nuneaton. Volvo B10M/Alexander PS training vehicle 20215 has transferred from Nuneaton to Northampton and is being used for CPC training.
All listed on the main site including all other changes
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 06, 2017, 03:02:01 PM
Transferred from Corby's main fleet into the Reserve Fleet is Trident 18128, being replaced in the main fleet by Dart SLF 34824 which has been in the Reserve Fleet at Kettering. Optare Solo 47418 has been transferred from the main fleet at Kettering to the Reserve Fleet. Following conversion to a training vehicle MAN/ALX300 22375 is allocated to Nuneaton. Volvo B10M/Alexander PS training vehicle 20215 has transferred from Nuneaton to Northampton and is being used for CPC training.
And this bit under Manchester:
" Two further Enviro 400s to be cascaded to Stagecoach Midlands are 19085 and 19091."
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 05, 2017, 02:04:45 PM
22375 is now in Gold livery and based at Northampton
22375 is based at Nuneaton..
Quote from: bensweeney14 on May 07, 2017, 12:41:52 PM
22375 is based at Nuneaton..
It's AT Northampton (as of Thursday)
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 07, 2017, 04:27:45 PM
It's AT Northampton (as of Thursday)
For about 10 minutes before they carry on with the training then..
Quote from: bensweeney14 on May 07, 2017, 09:51:26 PM
For about 10 minutes before they carry on with the training then..
Probably! Very glad to hear that 20215 is now at Northampton!
47075, 47076, 47512 - 55/56/57
39687, 39682 and 2 more Man's - 48
39690 - 10
Quote from: bensweeney14 on May 08, 2017, 06:17:10 PM
47075, 47076, 47512 - 55/56/57
39687, 39682 and 2 more Man's - 48
39690 - 10
Shouldn't this be in Unusual Workings?
Demolition of Leamington garage under way.
18128 is at Northampton
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 13, 2017, 04:51:42 PM
18128 is at Northampton
Thanks for that.
But, do any of the experts out there know what's happened to 19129? I've not seen it and I've not heard anything about it since it was transferred to Rugby (reserve), nor found any photos posted.
Meanwhile, 19108 which came, allegedly, at the same time continues to grind away at Kettering.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/34278896025/in/dateposted/
PD0000479/260 MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LTD, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON,
NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Operating between Cubbington and Edge Hill Upton House given service number
L67A / 67A / 67B effective from 11 June 2017. To amend Timetable.
Operating to Upton House (the NT property)?
Is this a new extension of the 67 group, or a legacy of some past operation there. I have to say I can't remember it going there before. Presumably a Sunday and Bank Holiday operation.
This will indeed be a new extension, and I agree that it presumably will run on Sundays and Bank Hols only (which is what 67A/B currently do).
Catteralls Coaches ran a Summer Sunday "Heritage Hopper" between Leamington and Banbury between 2004 and 2006, running via the Motor Heritage Centre and Upton House. No other services have done so since on Sundays.
Johnsons tried a direct X7 Stratford - Banbury via the main road 6 days a week, with a stop outside Upton House, but this was reduced to peak hours only (mainly for schools traffic) in April.
36168 is back on the road and has been repainted and no longer carries 48 branding - I knew I wasn't imagining it a few nights ago!
Quote from: Ally on May 31, 2017, 05:15:54 PM
36168 is back on the road and has been repainted and no longer carries 48 branding - I knew I wasn't imagining it a few nights ago!
I think that's the first 48 to be unbranded.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on May 31, 2017, 06:19:12 PM
I think that's the first 48 to be unbranded.
It is so far, it's just come back from yet another accident (it seems to be very accident prone that one).
I mistook it for 36207 a few nights back as they look very similar from a distance now, it's only when I realised it didn't have large fleetnumbers inside that it wasn't 36207 but I forgot to check what it was before I got off
Quote from: Ally on May 31, 2017, 08:43:24 PM
It is so far, it's just come back from yet another accident (it seems to be very accident prone that one).
I mistook it for 36207 a few nights back as they look very similar from a distance now, it's only when I realised it didn't have large fleetnumbers inside that it wasn't 36207 but I forgot to check what it was before I got off
Had it on the 48 today, its terrible! Very very slow (36172 slow) pulling off, but is alright when it gets going
Quote from: Ally on May 31, 2017, 08:43:24 PM
It is so far, it's just come back from yet another accident (it seems to be very accident prone that one).
I mistook it for 36207 a few nights back as they look very similar from a distance now, it's only when I realised it didn't have large fleetnumbers inside that it wasn't 36207 but I forgot to check what it was before I got off
I think all repainted Stagecoaches will get the small fleetnumbers. At Northampton, 15453 and 39699 both have small fleetnumbers and a small change to the livery. I think it's the shape of things to come.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 01, 2017, 08:18:07 AM
I think all repainted Stagecoaches will get the small fleetnumbers. At Northampton, 15453 and 39699 both have small fleetnumbers and a small change to the livery. I think it's the shape of things to come.
Nuneaton's have always had the small ones and even buses like 39692/93 that arrived with large ones had them changed to smaller ones externally, it's only interiors that retain them, as with 36207/208. 36207 still retains its large numbers inside which is why I thought either I wasn't on 36207 (which was the case) or that they had randomly changed the numbers.
I don't see any more of the 48's being repainted out of branding just yet, but I will keep an eye on things, especially to see if anything turns up at Chesterfield which is where they do all the repaints now.
Northampton Route 1 will now go to Wooton Fields every half hour. Buses between Rectory Farm and Town Centre now run every 10 mins and between Rectory Farm and Wooton Fields every 30 mins.
Expect new buses to be bought for this route in 2018.
Expected to experience Stagecoach Gold for the first time today going to Wellingborough to pick4845 up from Cummins. Get to Northampton to catch the X4. Now sat on an 11 year old Trident and charged more for a single journey than the cost of unlimited travel for the rest of the day in the West Midlands
Quote from: Tony on June 08, 2017, 11:31:41 AM
Expected to experience Stagecoach Gold for the first time today going to Wellingborough to pick4845 up from Cummins. Get to Northampton to catch the X4. Now sat on an 11 year old strident and charged more for a single journey than the cost of unlimited travel for the rest of the day in the West Midlands
Indeed... I reckon the West Midlands has pretty much the most competitive bus fares of anywhere in the country!
Quote from: Tony on June 08, 2017, 11:31:41 AM
Expected to experience Stagecoach Gold for the first time today going to Wellingborough to pick4845 up from Cummins. Get to Northampton to catch the X4. Now sat on an 11 year old strident and charged more for a single journey than the cost of unlimited travel for the rest of the day in the West Midlands
Same story in Warwickshire too! A good example is Bedworth to Coventry, £2.10 on the NX 20 and SC 48, but £2.65 on the SC 55/56/57, exactly the same starting point and destination...
Was this 19108? I have still got to get it!
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 08, 2017, 04:14:07 PM
Was this 19108? I have still got to get it!
No, it was an 11 year old Trident like I put in my original post
Quote from: Tony on June 08, 2017, 04:24:36 PM
No, it was an 11 year old Trident like I put in my original post
19108 is 10/11 years old. Which was it?
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 08, 2017, 08:45:15 PM
19108 is 10/11 years old. Which was it?
18410 an 11 year old Trident, not a 10 year old E400
Quote from: Tony on June 08, 2017, 08:46:48 PM
18410 an 11 year old Trident, not a 10 year old E400
19108 is a Trident!
Actually, be pretty glad you got 18410. I got 18190 on the X4 and it's falling to pieces inside.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 09, 2017, 06:35:18 PM
19108 is a Trident!
Actually, be pretty glad you got 18410. I got 18190 on the X4 and it's falling to pieces inside.
No I'm not glad. It's supposed to be a Gold route, I expect a Gold vehicle. I'm not complaining as I realise operators sometimes have to substitute vehicles, but I'm not glad.
18128 is now at Kettering depot.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 10, 2017, 10:50:36 AM
18128 is now at Kettering depot.
Seen on the 15 earlier on today in Kettering which seems like rather a waste unless it interworks with something else.
Leamington spa depot now flat started to.build houses
47653 is at Northampton and 35220 is withdrawn with crash damage
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2017, 06:38:17 PM
No I'm not glad. It's supposed to be a Gold route, I expect a Gold vehicle. I'm not complaining as I realise operators sometimes have to substitute vehicles, but I'm not glad.
Spot on Tony. Gold is a commitment which has to be met, especially on a money making route like the X4.
19129 has, at last, entered service at Rugby. I was told it was working on 13th June (that's not necessarily the first day of service). Here it is on the 14th June crossing the Great Central on the 3A.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/34932327840/in/dateposted/
Trainer 20215 working in Stratford at lunchtime today.
Quote from: DeanM66A on June 15, 2017, 10:55:09 AM
19129 has, at last, entered service at Rugby. I was told it was working on 13th June (that's not necessarily the first day of service). Here it is on the 14th June crossing the Great Central on the 3A.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/34932327840/in/dateposted/
That took a while!
Quote from: bensweeney14 on June 14, 2017, 10:59:59 PM
Spot on Tony. Gold is a commitment which has to be met, especially on a money making route like the X4.
What X4 needs is NEW BUSES! The bid for new buses has been turned down TWO YEARS IN A ROW!
Have 19085 and 19091 arrived yet?
My guess is that the Midlands management weren't being persistent enough.
Quote from: JIM H on June 16, 2017, 05:20:43 PM
Trainer 20215 working in Stratford at lunchtime today.
Was doing CPC for 3 Nuneaton drivers (I know the chap who was driving it!)
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 17, 2017, 12:33:01 AM
What X4 needs is NEW BUSES! The bid for new buses has been turned down TWO YEARS IN A ROW!
Because the current Golds are only 61 plates, hardly old when Nuneaton have 60 plates on there main route!
Quote from: bensweeney14 on June 19, 2017, 11:27:22 PM
Because the current Golds are only 61 plates, hardly old when Nuneaton have 60 plates on there main route!
But the Nuneaton 48s are being replaced this year
-and 48 is approximately 30 miles long whereas X4 is approxiamtely 75 miles long.
Repainted 36168 seen in Coventry in fleet livery ex 48 branded.
Quote from: JoNi on June 21, 2017, 08:37:50 PM
Repainted 36168 seen in Coventry in fleet livery ex 48 branded.
Another one unbranded?
19085 and 19091 have arrived and are at Rugby.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 22, 2017, 04:35:32 PM
Another one unbranded?
That the same one as reported a couple of pages back, not a separate one :P
Quote from: Ally on June 22, 2017, 04:42:16 PM
That the same one as reported a couple of pages back, not a separate one :P
Thought that was 36163
SERVICE UPDATES
Changes to Northampton & Kettering routes from 25th June 2017
06 Jun 2017 to 02 Jul 2017
We are delighted to be serving the new development at Rushden Lakes from 25th June 2017. As a result, several routes will see route & timetable changes.
Routes 49 & 50
Route 49 will run Kettering, Barton Seagrave, Burton Latimer, Finedon, Irthlingborough, Higham Ferrers, Rushden, Rushden Lakes.
Route 50 will run Kettering, Barton Seagrave, Burton Latimer, Finedon, Irthlingborough, Rushden Lakes, Rushden, Sharnbrook, Radwell, Milton Earnest, Clapham & Bedford.
Route 50 will provide the fastest journey from Kettering running direct to Rushden Lakes from Irthlingborough via the A45 (no longer serving Higham Ferrers).
On Sundays Route 50 will serve Higham Ferrers but then run via Northampton Road, join the A45, serve Rushden Lakes and then Rushden and on to Bedford.
Routes X46 & X47
Buses will run from Wellingborough via Rushden Lakes then onto Rushden.
Unfortunately route X46/X47 will no longer be able to serve Irchester or Grangeway. There will however be a new hourly 14 route running between Wellingborough, Irchester, Grangeway & Rushden, Monday to Saturday.
One X46 journey on college days, in each direction will continue to run via Irchester to Northampton College.
Routes X1 & 19
There will be some very minor timing changes to a couple of journeys throughout
Route X4
The Monday to Friday 0610 Kettering to Milton Keynes will now leave at 0605 and run 5 minute earlier to Northampton. The times between Northampton to Milton Keynes remain unaffected.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-06/06/2017-12:19:49:469
Quote from: Tony on June 09, 2017, 06:38:17 PM
No I'm not glad. It's supposed to be a Gold route, I expect a Gold vehicle. I'm not complaining as I realise operators sometimes have to substitute vehicles, but I'm not glad.
N'awww diddums! Some of us up here expect our nicer buses then get wedged in on the tat. Suck it up! Tridents better than no bus
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on June 22, 2017, 10:04:37 PM
N'awww diddums! Some of us up here expect our nicer buses then get wedged in on the tat. Suck it up! Tridents better than no bus
I put that I realise operators have to substitute occasionally, but read what I was replying to before posting obnoxious crap.
Under was told I should be glad I got a trident instead of a Gold, that 'bus spotter' attitude can drive passengers away and kill services.
Quote from: Tony on June 22, 2017, 10:18:15 PM
I put that I realise operators have to substitute occasionally, but read what I was replying to before posting obnoxious crap.
Under was told I should be glad I got a trident instead of a Gold, that 'bus spotter' attitude can drive passengers away and kill services.
Sometimes you get Darts, 2004 Tridents and even Solos on X4. A 2006 Trident really isn't that bad.
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 23, 2017, 05:01:50 AM
Sometimes you get Darts, 2004 Tridents and even Solos on X4. A 2006 Trident really isn't that bad.
You get it all the time. A trident on a Gold route is not rare, neither is anything else in Northampton area..
Quote from: YN63 BYJ on June 23, 2017, 05:01:50 AM
A 2006 Trident really isn't that bad.
You're missing the point here.
Yes there is nothing wrong with a 2006 Trident, but if you went in a shop and paid for a block of Cadburys chocolate, you wouldn't expect to be charged the same price for some rubbish brand that didn't taste as nice. The bus industry in general is waking up to this fact and in general trying to offer the level of quality they are advertising. Occasional substitutions to keep the service running are acceptable to most people, but they are not 'glad' when the cheapo version turns up, just accept it occasionally. When the cheapo version becomes the norm, that's when the passenger numbers start to lose any gains made by bringing in the higher quality service
When travelling on Trent's Red Arrow the driver gave passengers complementary day tickets when the expected coach turned out to be a 10 year old bus seated Optare Solo!
Quote from: JoNi on June 25, 2017, 12:02:42 AM
When travelling on Trent's Red Arrow the driver gave passengers complementary day tickets when the expected coach turned out to be a 10 year old bus seated Optare Solo!
That's nice of him
Can someone confirm the allocation for routes X17, X18 & X19?
Quote from: MW on July 20, 2017, 05:45:01 PM
Can someone confirm the allocation for routes X17, X18 & X19?
@MW It's on my spreadsheet. The link is on the first post in this thread.
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4469.0
Quote from: Adam 404 on July 20, 2017, 06:10:05 PM
@MW
It's on my spreadsheet. The link is on the first post in this thread.
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=4469.0
That's your spreadsheet? Blimey that's a lot of effort you've gone to. Very useful for me. Thanks a lot.
Quote from: MW on July 20, 2017, 06:21:33 PM
That's your spreadsheet? Blimey that's a lot of effort you've gone to. Very useful for me. Thanks a lot.
Yes, I made on for De Courcey & Diamond as well. I'm glad it's useful.
The X46/7 Golds are being re-branded for Rushden Lakes services.
Ex Northampton 39699 is today on the road in Nuneaton on the 5/5A.
18159 is at the depot (Northampton) with major front end damage.
No gen here, but a bit of chit chat!
Had ex Northampton 39699 for 3 and a half hours today, very very impressed! Much better than the pile of crap 39700, and better than the rest of the Ex Northampton MANs, very impressed.
Plenty of power with a good kickdown, responsive and smooth gearbox, suspension was very nice, brakes took some getting used too but turned out to be extremely smooth for a MAN, and the steering is the best steering on any Nuneaton depot bus. Good bus, very good bus!
Quote from: bensweeney14 on August 19, 2017, 11:18:43 PM
No gen here, but a bit of chit chat!
Had ex Northampton 39699 for 3 and a half hours today, very very impressed! Much better than the pile of crap 39700, and better than the rest of the Ex Northampton MANs, very impressed.
Plenty of power with a good kickdown, responsive and smooth gearbox, suspension was very nice, brakes took some getting used too but turned out to be extremely smooth for a MAN, and the steering is the best steering on any Nuneaton depot bus. Good bus, very good bus!
Are you driving at Nuneaton now then?
Quote from: Tony on August 20, 2017, 06:06:19 PM
Are you driving at Nuneaton now then?
Was my very good friend who had it, those are his words passed on!
X18/X17 changes-
X18 will now run direct from Warwick to Stratford via the existing X17 route up the A46.
X17 will now run from Warwick to Stratford via JLR, Wellesbourne and Tiddington (same route as the X18)
Both services will keep their every half hour frequency and will create a new, fast link between Stratford and Coventry.
Route Changes:
Some 1 journeys will run to Grange Park
Some 15 journeys will run to Moulton Park
New route X90 : Northampton - MK Station
New route X44 : Wellingborough - Brackmills
Route 88 (Earls Barton-Northampton) re-numbered 8
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-17/08/2017-17:10:47:849
Quote from: bensweeney14 on August 22, 2017, 10:51:22 PM
X18/X17 changes-
X18 will now run direct from Warwick to Stratford via the existing X17 route up the A46.
X17 will now run from Warwick to Stratford via JLR, Wellesbourne and Tiddington (same route as the X18)
Both services will keep their every half hour frequency and will create a new, fast link between Stratford and Coventry.
When is this happening
@bensweeney14 , I can't see it on the website...
Service 1 & 2 are extending to Weddington & two new housing estates from September.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-24/08/2017-14:01:57:174
Quote from: Adam 404 on August 28, 2017, 12:07:02 PM
When is this happening @bensweeney14 , I can't see it on the website...
Service 1 & 2 are extending to Weddington & two new housing estates from September.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-24/08/2017-14:01:57:174
September.
Stagecoach have registered timetable changes to several Leamington area services, including the X17 and X18, effective from 16 September.
I haven't seen any timetables yet.
X17 timetable from 16/9/17 on Traveline but only goes to Warwick....
The 16 September Leamington area changes are now on the Stagecoach website, along with all the new timetables except the X18 so far.
The X17 and X18 are indeed swapping routes between Longbridge (the one outside Warwick!) and Stratford, so that the X18 will be "fast+direct" throughout. The Sunday 18 route is unchanged but fewer buses will reach Evesham.
The other notable change is to the Warwick Uni services (Unibus), which are being revised and simplified to new U1 and U2, with the U1 serving a different part of Leamington to before. Again the Sunday U17 route through to Coventry (a combination of the U1 and the X17) is unchanged with just minor timetable changes.
36208 transferred from Nuneaton to Rugby. Not the best ideas seeing as Nuneaton's route changes have upped the PVR...
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 09, 2017, 01:22:44 AM
36208 transferred from Nuneaton to Rugby. Not the best ideas seeing as Nuneaton's route changes have upped the PVR...
ANd 36950 transferred from Warwick to Rugby. Seen on 96.
Quote from: YN64AOG on September 09, 2017, 09:58:24 AM
ANd 36950 transferred from Warwick to Rugby. Seen on 96.
This most certainly is NOT on the 96 today.
I have observed 34816, 36208 & 36210 on the route today.
Quote from: Adam 404 on September 09, 2017, 05:18:52 PM
This most certainly is NOT on the 96 today.
I have observed 34816, 36208 & 36210 on the route today.
Not today. A few days ago. I'll upload the pic soon.
Quote from: YN64AOG on September 09, 2017, 09:58:24 AM
ANd 36950 transferred from Warwick to Rugby. Seen on 96.
Warwick!?
Quote from: bensweeney14 on September 10, 2017, 11:07:10 PM
Warwick!?
The new depot which replaced Leamington (and part of Stratford?) is in Poseidon Way, Warwick. Is it still officially Leamington or does its official name now more accurately describe its location?
Unfortunately it's been a few years since every destination on the blind was preceded by a small LN.
Quote from: DeanM66A on September 11, 2017, 10:21:05 AM
The new depot which replaced Leamington (and part of Stratford?) is in Poseidon Way, Warwick. Is it still officially Leamington or does its official name now more accurately describe its location?
Unfortunately it's been a few years since every destination on the blind was preceded by a small LN.
It is officially Leamington depot, even though Poseidon Way is actually in Warwick.
The depot is smack bang in the middle of Leamington/Warwick, although personally I would say it's closer to Leamington than Warwick.
19085 and 19088 now at Northampton.
Nuneaton 48 branded 36157 is currently being repainted into standard Stagecoach livery. Also 39698 has also arrived into Nuneaton depot today.
Repainted 36157 is now on the road and looking very smart, 36163 next. Whenever they are going in for service they are also getting repainted, they are not in numerical order, 36173 I believe is last though.
39698 still not on the road, as it is absolutely knackered
Quote from: bensweeney14 on November 11, 2017, 02:18:19 AM
39698 still not on the road, as it is absolutely knackered
Wasn't it on the 41 yesterday, and isn't it on the57 today?
Apologies. Moved to Daventry thread.
39698 isnt that bad
@bensweeney14
Quote from: YN64AOG on November 11, 2017, 10:37:35 PM
39698 isnt that bad @bensweeney14
Had it Saturday on my HInckley Cov, was very nice actually, very similar to 39696 but revs much higher and absolute flies on hills, very very good bus!!
Quote from: bensweeney14 on November 13, 2017, 10:07:50 PM
Had it Saturday on my HInckley Cov, was very nice actually, very similar to 39696 but revs much higher and absolute flies on hills, very very good bus!!
I absolutely agree, only been on it once on route 1
I moved message as posted on wrong board
34627 KX54OPB is now back at Nuneaton garage (a welcomed return!)
Quote from: bensweeney14 on January 04, 2018, 04:50:24 AM
34627 KX54OPB is now back at Nuneaton garage (a welcomed return!)
Back in Nuneaton? What has replaced it at kettering then?
Quote from: YN64AOG on January 06, 2018, 02:13:12 PM
Back in Nuneaton? What has replaced it at kettering then?
It was at Rugby as paint cover
@YN64AOG
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 06, 2018, 02:40:39 PM
It was at Rugby as paint cover @YN64AOG
Sure it was at Kettering sometime recently
Quote from: YN64AOG on January 06, 2018, 08:16:04 PM
Sure it was at Kettering sometime recently
Well, it has been on a bit of an adventure this year with it also being allocated to Leamington Spa.
At Leamington - https://www.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.552216734950264.1073742232.369276339910972/731672693671333/?type=3&theater
At Rugby - https://www.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.552216734950264.1073742232.369276339910972/799122986926303/?type=3&theater
You may be confusing it with 34628 which is supposed to be at Kettering now
@YN64AOG
Just got up to date with the Stagecoach Midlands Changes. Fleetlist updated to 9/12/17 and checked against the company fleetcard at
http://wmbusphotos.com/stagecoachMR/fleetlist.html
All changes up to the same date are listed here
http://wmbusphotos.com/Fleetchanges/SCMid.html
The next period ending was yesterday, so I will add these as soon as I receive them
Quote from: Adam 404 on January 06, 2018, 08:37:32 PM
Well, it has been on a bit of an adventure this year with it also being allocated to Leamington Spa.
At Leamington - https://www.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.552216734950264.1073742232.369276339910972/731672693671333/?type=3&theater
At Rugby - https://www.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.552216734950264.1073742232.369276339910972/799122986926303/?type=3&theater
You may be confusing it with 34628 which is supposed to be at Kettering now @YN64AOG
I think I am
@Adam 404 ! I saw it at Northampton depot last year though, wonder what it was doing there!
48 branded repaints/debrands
36154
36155
36156
36157
36158
36160
36162
36164
36153 now also debranded. Next is 36163 I believe
Enviro400 15675 now in heritage Stratford Blue livery
http://www.busesmag.com/2018/01/28/stagecoach-and-omnibus-society-celebrate-stratford-blue/
Hello any idea when these new buses will be delivered and also in service info will be greatly appreciated
Quote from: mark114 on February 05, 2018, 01:04:42 PM
Hello any idea when these new buses will be delivered and also in service info will be greatly appreciated
25th Feb according to Stagecoach leaflets
https://scontent.fbhx1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27540438_1882184168481691_2170505840957812988_n.jpg?oh=c357c626025c748525821a5043cf86a6&oe=5B12E109
Thank you so much John for your post also for the info which is greatly appreciated
According to Steven Knight Media hte new gold 48's have been delivered. Can anyone confirm this?
"More details have been made available to us of the fleet cascade plan which will be put into action when the new 11.8 metre Gold-spec Enviro 200MMCs enter service at Nuneaton at the end of this month. 11 Enviro 200s will transfer from Nuneaton to Leamington and Rugby with 13 MAN/Enviro 200s moving to Rugby and Kettering. The transfers will eliminate the Dart SLF type from Leamington and Kettering, leaving just Rugby and Corby operating them.
The transfers will also see the Optare Solo eliminated from the Corby allocation with 47418 transferred to Kettering and others of the type at Corby withdrawn for disposal. The elimination of the Solos at Corby will leave just the Scania/East Lancs double decks 15401-05 operational in Corby Star livery. This is one of the longest surviving local identity brands within Stagecoach.
Once all the changes have taken place Corby will have Dart SLFs 35174/75/76/77/78/79, 35218/19/21/22/23/24/25/26 on its books with 35180-85 in the main fleet at Rugby and 34815-18 in the Reserve Fleet there. All other Dart SLFs will be for disposal."
Source: SKM https://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
Quote from: Adam 404 on February 13, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
"More details have been made available to us of the fleet cascade plan which will be put into action when the new 11.8 metre Gold-spec Enviro 200MMCs enter service at Nuneaton at the end of this month. 11 Enviro 200s will transfer from Nuneaton to Leamington and Rugby with 13 MAN/Enviro 200s moving to Rugby and Kettering.
The transfers will also see the Optare Solo eliminated from the Corby allocation with 47418 transferred to Kettering and others of the type at Corby withdrawn for disposal.
Once all the changes have taken place Corby will have Dart SLFs 35174/75/76/77/78/79, 35218/19/21/22/23/24/25/26 on its books with 35180-85 in the main fleet at Rugby and 34815-18 in the Reserve Fleet there. All other Dart SLFs will be for disposal."
Source: SKM https://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
So,
16 Darts to go: 34591-4; 34625-8; 34642-4; 34772; 34821-4
5 or 6 Solos to go: 47044/050/129/339/340. And 47404?
I'm guessing that Nuneaton's venerable Solos 47075-7 are also for the chop. That would total 24 (or 25) withdrawals.
34821-3 came new with branding for the 19 and will be withdrawn twelve years later with that branding still in place andstill operating the 19. Unusual, if not unique.
Received report of 67 plate Nuneaton bus on 48. Fleet Number is 26202 named Paul Dickson!!!!
Hello can anyone confirm when the gold buses are in service on the 48 route 26202-226 will the older buses that used to work this route be transferred or will they stay at Nuneaton for other routes info would be greatly appreciated
Mark
Quote from: mark114 on February 20, 2018, 12:35:01 PM
Hello can anyone confirm when the gold buses are in service on the 48 route 26202-226 will the older buses that used to work this route be transferred or will they stay at Nuneaton for other routes info would be greatly appreciated
Mark
Quote from: Adam 404 on February 13, 2018, 03:42:52 PM
"More details have been made available to us of the fleet cascade plan which will be put into action when the new 11.8 metre Gold-spec Enviro 200MMCs enter service at Nuneaton at the end of this month. 11 Enviro 200s will transfer from Nuneaton to Leamington and Rugby with 13 MAN/Enviro 200s moving to Rugby and Kettering. The transfers will eliminate the Dart SLF type from Leamington and Kettering, leaving just Rugby and Corby operating them.
The transfers will also see the Optare Solo eliminated from the Corby allocation with 47418 transferred to Kettering and others of the type at Corby withdrawn for disposal. The elimination of the Solos at Corby will leave just the Scania/East Lancs double decks 15401-05 operational in Corby Star livery. This is one of the longest surviving local identity brands within Stagecoach.
Once all the changes have taken place Corby will have Dart SLFs 35174/75/76/77/78/79, 35218/19/21/22/23/24/25/26 on its books with 35180-85 in the main fleet at Rugby and 34815-18 in the Reserve Fleet there. All other Dart SLFs will be for disposal."
Source: SKM https://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
@mark114 Further quote from the webpage
"The planned vehicle cascade as the new 11.8m Gold-spec Enviro 200MMCs (26202-26) enter service at Nuneaton is:
MAN/Enviro 200s
39680-89 Nuneaton to Kettering
39690-92 Nuneaton to Rugby
ADL Enviro 200s
36153-57 and 36207 Nuneaton to Rugby
36159-64 Nuneaton to Leamington
Dart SLFs
34593, 34824 Corby to Disposal
34628/42, 34821/22/23 Kettering to Disposal
34591/92/94, 34625/26/43, 44 Rugby to Disposal
34772 Leamington to Disposal
34815-18 Rugby to Reserve Fleet
35174/75, 35218 Rugby to Corby
35178/79, 35219/21/22/23 Kettering to Corby
35180-84 Leamington to Rugby
Optare Solo
47044/59, 47129, 47339/40, 47404 Corby to Disposal
47418 Corby to Kettering
The re-allocations are expected to start over the weekend of 24th/25th February and are likely to take a few weeks to complete. As always the plan is subject to last minute changes."
Thank you so much Adam 404 info greatly appreciated
Mark
The former Union Rep at Nuneaton, will always remember a poster up in the garage about speed limit signs having the 30 changed with pen to show "36" with "Dicko" written next to it in a banterous jab at him being flashed by the Old Hinckley Road speed camera with former 34398!
There's a bench next to the bus stops in Bedworth Town Centre dedicated to him also.
Quote from: JoNi on February 20, 2018, 11:17:28 AM
Received report of 67 plate Nuneaton bus on 48. Fleet Number is 26202 named Paul Dickson!!!!
Quote from: mark114 on February 20, 2018, 12:35:01 PM
Hello can anyone confirm when the gold buses are in service on the 48 route 26202-226 will the older buses that used to work this route be transferred or will they stay at Nuneaton for other routes info would be greatly appreciated
Mark
I have heard there might be launch events for the 48 on Friday in Nuneaton and Coventry so they should be properly entering service by then.
Hello Cheese yes that's the rumour I heard although the 25th was supposed to be the day they enter service but I have been told by a very good source that they will be in service on the 23rd
Mark
Quote from: JoNi on February 20, 2018, 11:17:28 AM
Received report of 67 plate Nuneaton bus on 48. Fleet Number is 26202 named Paul Dickson!!!!
who is paul dickson?
Quote from: YN64AOG on February 20, 2018, 10:31:41 PM
who is paul dickson?
That was literally answered hours ago.
@YN64AOG Quote from: Ally on February 20, 2018, 04:11:22 PM
The former Union Rep at Nuneaton, will always remember a poster up in the garage about speed limit signs having the 30 changed with pen to show "36" with "Dicko" written next to it in a banterous jab at him being flashed by the Old Hinckley Road speed camera with former 34398!
There's a bench next to the bus stops in Bedworth Town Centre dedicated to him also.
Oh ok thanks
@Adam 404 , so he was a driver
15672 is on hire to Northampton
Are the Gold ADL Enviro 200 MMC's running on the 48 ? I didn't see any yesterday?! (25/2).
Quote from: paulb1973 on February 26, 2018, 05:06:59 PM
Are the Gold ADL Enviro 200 MMC's running on the 48 ? I didn't see any yesterday?! (25/2).
Saw 26211 (SN67 XDD) and 26216 (SN67 XDJ) on the 48 this afternoon.
Saw a pic of 26213 (SN67 XDF) and 26215 (SN67 XDH) on Facebook in service on 48 today.
Five Gold 48s in row today including 26226
Are all the Golds at Nuneaton route branded or not?
Quote from: markcf83 on March 03, 2018, 03:03:13 PM
Are all the Golds at Nuneaton route branded or not?
Yeah, all 48 branded
Thanks Ben.
Quote from: bensweeney14 on March 04, 2018, 04:01:18 PM
Yeah, all 48 branded
I very much doubt the entire batch will be branded
I'd agree. The recent delivery to Porth had three at least unbranded.
Quote from: markcf83 on March 05, 2018, 04:30:48 PM
I'd agree. The recent delivery to Porth had three at least unbranded.
The first plan I saw had the last three unbranded but the fleet numbers quoted then were those that were allocated to the South Wales golds. The last numbered of the Nuneaton batch, 26226, has full 48 branding; I haven't seen 26224 or 26225.
I don't see what sense there is in having three unbranded. The spares will inevitably turn up on other routes. They're the only vehicles in this livery in Nuneaton so if you're waiting in Gun Hill for your bus to town and a Gold turns up with 17 displayed at the front, you're not going to be any more confused when you find out that it says 48 on the side.
Branded 26224 seen this morning
Stagecoach started new route "SL" last week which serves Malthouse Lane in Kenilworth once a day (Monday to Friday) replacing part of a morning 539 journey.
I took a picture of 15449 running it by the Castle on Friday - https://m.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.869764016528866.1073742611.369276339910972/874237489414852/?type=3&theater
26202-04/6-13/15/16/18/20-23/25 all seen at Coventry on a visit there Thursday.
26215 I believe was on 55/56/57. Now all drivers are being Gold trained they will appear on absolutely anything.
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 08, 2018, 07:22:51 PM
Stagecoach started new route "SL" last week which serves Malthouse Lane in Kenilworth once a day (Monday to Friday) replacing part of a morning 539 journey.
I took a picture of 15449 running it by the Castle on Friday - https://m.facebook.com/CovBusPage/photos/a.869764016528866.1073742611.369276339910972/874237489414852/?type=3&theater
The SL has an increased timetable from timetable tomorrow. Now I understand what the SL meant (Station Link)!
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Leamington%20Timetables/SL_TT_300418_WEB.pdf
Quote from: D10 on April 29, 2018, 10:32:36 AM
The SL has an increased timetable from timetable tomorrow. Now I understand what the SL meant (Station Link)!
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Leamington%20Timetables/SL_TT_300418_WEB.pdf
Nuneaton depot will be operating it too. Definately a Nuneaton driver but not sure about the bus.
Saturday 26th
47652 - Nuneaton 10
26220 - 767/766, left Nuneaton around 1800 on a Tamworth 767, that one's usually a standard E200
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on May 28, 2018, 12:06:37 AM
Saturday 26th
47652 - Nuneaton 10
26220 - 767/766, left Nuneaton around 1800 on a Tamworth 767, that one's usually a standard E200
17:52 767 to Tamworth.. standard E200/MAN on A weekday and a Gold on Saturdays.
Overheard someone say on the 86 that Rugby - Coventry service is to run through to Northampton starting in July? Any truth in this?
Previously at one stage it ran through to Kenilworth but that did not last too long.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on June 18, 2018, 06:36:10 PM
Overheard someone say on the 86 that Rugby - Coventry service is to run through to Northampton starting in July? Any truth in this?
Previously at one stage it ran through to Kenilworth but that did not last too long.
Aren't they different frequencies? The 86 has some sort of town service tagged on to the end of it too so presumably that will have to go onto something else
Quote from: Sandy Lane on June 18, 2018, 06:36:10 PM
Overheard someone say on the 86 that Rugby - Coventry service is to run through to Northampton starting in July? Any truth in this?
Previously at one stage it ran through to Kenilworth but that did not last too long.
Rugby area changes from 21 July now on Stagecoach website at https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-18/06/2018-16:36:03:555
Quote from: Smethwickian on June 19, 2018, 09:35:53 PM
Rugby area changes from 21 July now on Stagecoach website at https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-18/06/2018-16:36:03:555
Thanks. So the gossip was right and the 86 will be the 96. Shame as the route used to be the old Midland Red route 586 so more than 50 years of use of '-86' will disappear into history.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on June 20, 2018, 05:46:56 PM
Thanks. So the gossip was right and the 86 will be the 96. Shame as the route used to be the old Midland Red route 586 so more than 50 years of use of '-86' will disappear into history.
Indeed. But it is a bit retro in that most of this 96 route covers the western part of the old X96 Northampton - Rugby- Coventry - Birmingham - Shrewsbury route!
Posts on a Facebook group seem to suggest the Gold Solo SRs at Leamington are in the process of been replaced with Enviro200s from South Wales (some of which are in service now), with the Solos going the other way.
Anyone got any idea why the G1 is losing the Solos?
The G1 service is getting busy the envrios are bigger
Quote from: John on October 19, 2018, 09:19:11 PM
Posts on a Facebook group seem to suggest the Gold Solo SRs at Leamington are in the process of been replaced with Enviro200s from South Wales (some of which are in service now), with the Solos going the other way.
Anyone got any idea why the G1 is losing the Solos?
Route 60 at Aberdare, on which the Enviros were used, were getting damaged on the chassis. The Solos and Darts which are replacing them don't suffer the same problem..
Quote from: Sandy Lane on June 20, 2018, 05:46:56 PM
Thanks. So the gossip was right and the 86 will be the 96. Shame as the route used to be the old Midland Red route 586 so more than 50 years of use of '-86' will disappear into history.
From the January 2019 service changes topic I see the 96 is to become the 86 again!
http://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5308.0
Just a quick general question - I saw a D1/2/3 branded E200 on the 585 in Coventry on Sunday, and I noticed that it had a very small number on the blinds. Doesn't this break the DDA rules regarding displays?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stourvalley/32175743568/
Quote from: StourValley98 on November 27, 2018, 09:06:28 AM
Just a quick general question - I saw a D1/2/3 branded E200 on the 585 in Coventry on Sunday.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/stourvalley/32175743568/
Do you think Stagecoach is getting more passngers on the Sunday 585 than when MDC ran it?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on November 27, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Do you think Stagecoach is getting more passngers on the Sunday 585 than when MDC ran it?
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Every potential, people who have stagecoach passes might use it between Rugby and Cov, extra Sunday journeys on top of the 86
What usually works the 665? Cause I've just followed Unibus 10041 around Bishops Itchington while on the 502 from Banbury, seems massively over the top to have a decker on there
Quote from: Kevin on December 22, 2018, 02:38:55 PM
What usually works the 665? Cause I've just followed Unibus 10041 around Bishops Itchington while on the 502 from Banbury, seems massively over the top to have a decker on there
The 665 is generally Enviro 200. Most of the general allocations are found on my spreadsheet. Hope that helps! 🙂
@Kevin https://1drv.ms/x/s!AuV-OWRD_pekgSs6TzRmdqSPwMhv
Are the sightseeing buses at Stratford only De licensed for the winter or are they have some new buses in the spring
Quote from: Solo1 on February 03, 2019, 05:57:22 AM
Are the sightseeing buses at Stratford only De licensed for the winter or are they have some new buses in the spring
I think they're mostly delicenced over the winter months. They definitely run between around Easter and early September but I stand to be corrected on this.
Quote from: Solo1 on February 03, 2019, 05:57:22 AM
Are the sightseeing buses at Stratford only De licensed for the winter or are they have some new buses in the spring
They are just delicensed for the winter. The Stratford service no longer runs all year - it will restart a week before Easter.
I don't know if the existing open toppers will be replaced next year, but I haven't heard that they will or may be. I'd be a little surprised if they were.
Coventry news tonight
Stagecoach Midlands ordered to run reduced fleet following fatal Coventry bus crash inquiry.
https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/stagecoach-midlands-ordered-to-run-reduced-fleet-following-fatal-coventry-bus-crash-inquiry-11850/
limit the number of vehicles the firm can run from 261 to 200 between April 1 and April 29
Have the versa's now been returned that Leamington depot had
Quote from: Solo1 on March 10, 2019, 08:36:48 AM
Have the versa's now been returned that Leamington depot had
Yes, they were returned to Warwickshire County Council in January.
The end of the Kenilworth Station Link , or the contract has been awarded to someone else?
PD0000479/325 Cancelled
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LIMITED
Route: Kenilworth Shops to Kenilworth Station
Service number: SL (SL)
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 01 Jun 2019
I imagine the service is axed, a logistical nightmare really for commuters. Kenilworth only has a direct rail service to Coventry and Leamington Spa and not quite the centre of them at that.
Established bus services gets people more closer to the centres in little difference of journey time and is more frequent.
The 539 service might be amended around 9:10am to cover the Malthouse Lane loop as per the past ::).
Quote from: JPC on April 07, 2019, 01:46:51 PM
I imagine the service is axed, a logistical nightmare really for commuters. Kenilworth only has a direct rail service to Coventry and Leamington Spa and not quite the centre of them at that.
Established bus services gets people more closer to the centres in little difference of journey time and is more frequent.
The 539 service might be amended around 9:10am to cover the Malthouse Lane loop as per the past ::).
And from May the Coventry arena and Nuneaton will be served from Kenilworth by rail
Quote from: the trainbasher on April 07, 2019, 02:08:21 PM
And from May the Coventry arena and Nuneaton will be served from Kenilworth by rail
Yes, because clearly lots of people from Kenilworth commute to the Ricoh...
SKM reports that 18471/74/75/82/96 are to transfer to Midlands from London for use on the Stratford Tour, replacing the 17xxx currently used
Coventry area fares adjusted on 14th April with some zone changes for Megarider ticket.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/midlands/new-fares-coventry
Useful map https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/ZoneMaps/Midlands/Nuneaton%20%26%20Coventry/Coventry%20megarider%20plus%20map_EDIT%20April%202019.pdf
Quote from: Sandy Lane on April 20, 2019, 08:56:28 AM
Coventry area fares adjusted on 14th April
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/demand-stop-extortionate-bus-fares-16150323
High time for some regular competition between Nuneaton and Bedworth, I know I often repeat the dream but... an extension on the NX 20 service at 20 or 30 minute intervals will do.
Quote from: JPC on April 21, 2019, 02:02:41 PM
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/demand-stop-extortionate-bus-fares-16150323
High time for some regular competition between Nuneaton and Bedworth, I know I often repeat the dream but... an extension on the NX 20 service at 20 or 30 minute intervals will do.
Is it still double the fare between Bedworth and Coventry on the 55/56 than on the 48?
I've lost my touch with Warwickshire since moving South!
Quote from: Ally on April 21, 2019, 09:27:08 PM
Is it still double the fare between Bedworth and Coventry on the 55/56 than on the 48?
I've lost my touch with Warwickshire since moving South!
You can find out by using the 'Search for tickets by journey' section on this page... https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tickets
Just a few quick questions for anyone who may know, I've no clue on allocations at Leamington since the changes!
What types am I likely to see on the peak only 16A, 16X, X14 and X77 , I'm guessing these go onto other routes afterwards? Also what gets used on the 50 in Stratford. Thanks
Apologies if this has been asked before, but which route would I be likely to see 15675 posted to? Thanks
I believe that's the Stratford blue one so at a guess I would of thought around Stratford itself
Last Saturday 15675 was on the 15. I'd say the 15, X19 and perhaps the X18 are the best bet.
Quote from: mark114 on June 08, 2019, 08:29:26 PM
I believe that's the Stratford blue one so at a guess I would of thought around Stratford itself
Quote from: Justin Tyme on June 09, 2019, 10:05:38 AM
Last Saturday 15675 was on the 15. I'd say the 15, X19 and perhaps the X18 are the best bet.
Cheers, both.. I'll have to keep an eye out for it in Warwickshire when the weather permits. :D
I'm currently on the stand at the University of Warwick where brand new 11219 has literally just arrived. Its registration is SN69ZCY. I don't know how long it has been on the road.....
Hello could anyone tell me please these new buses which have recently arrived which routes are they working any info would be greatly appreciated thank you
They are for Unibus services
Thank you so much for your reply and info broma1k it's greatly appreciated
11221 & 11222 seen on delivery Monday.
Are these SN69XDA and SN69XDC? I saw them joining M40 from M42 Monday.
Yes that was them.
Most of the red Unibuses have lost their branding, although in some lighting the ghost is just as prominent. Needless to say one that hasn't was on the 15.
;
The new buses have different posters in their advertising frames
11218 SN69ZCX - Frequent up to every 7-8 mins
11219 SN69ZCY - leamington to university
Sorry to see that stagecoach in Nuneaton have withdrawn another class 39 (39699).
That, coupled with withdrawl of route 57 (Coventry - Bedworth via Keresley), means I'm
using stagecoach less these days. I did suggest to their network review consultation over
the summer that NX Coventry consider extending at least one an hour of their route 16
(city centre - Keresley) to/ from Bedworth but that seems to have fallen on deaf ears.
I've just read that 10731, 18103, 106, 128, 199, 322 have arrived at Northampton depot. 2 other MMCs supposed to be moving, and I assume 18323/371 will too, as they're set to replace Northampton's 10 MAN/E300s
A very interesting move considering that the MMCs are a new type, and only 3 are moving if this is right. I guess it once again shows how much of a disliking Stagecoach have taken to their MANs!
11217 spending a day on the X18
Currently sat on layover in Pool Meadow
i don,t know about stagecoach taking a dislike to MANs. 39680 - 39689
remain active at Kettering (ex Nuneaton) , 39690/1/3 are recent transfers
to Chester while, as far as i know, the 39xxx 's in Hampshire and the north east
are still going strong.
I believe Nuneaton have offered 39694 - 39696 and 39700 for sale (Steven Knight)
but have heard no more about this.
Coming soon, the return of the U12, only this time between Coventry and the University of Warwick. Starts 4 Jan 2020, no route details yet as far as I can see.
Details here: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/midlands/warwick-and-leamington-unibus
Here's the timetable (you'll have to scroll down a fair bit), stops at Stand J Pool Meadow (the current 9/9A to Coventry station one, making it closer than the 11/12X stands!), and at the exact same stands at the Rail Station and the University as the 12X.
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Leamington%20Timetables/LU1%20TT%20010120%20WEB.pdf
https://cbwmagazine.com/unibus-network-to-expand-to-serve-coventry/
Competition for NXWM between Coventry and the Uni. I assume the new U12 will follow the 12X down the Kenilworth Road?
If there is anyone on here who posts from Stagecoach Warks, could you please send a batch of the U1/U2/U12 timetables to the NXC Travelshop in Pool Meadow, please?
Thank you in advance
Bus Man K2
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 11, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
If there is anyone on here who posts from Stagecoach Warks, could you please send a batch of the U1/U2/U12 timetables to the NXC Travelshop in Pool Meadow, please?
Thank you in advance
Bus Man K2
Are there not official channels and contacts within Stagecoach Midlands who should be contacted for matters like this?
Quote from: D10 on December 11, 2019, 08:52:33 PM
Are there not official channels and contacts within Stagecoach Midlands who should be contacted for matters like this?
There are probably people who contact Stagecoach management from the travelshop but they never seam to send copies of new timetable. This is the same for Arriva.
Regards
Bus Man K2
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 11, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
If there is anyone on here who posts from Stagecoach Warks, could you please send a batch of the U1/U2/U12 timetables to the NXC Travelshop in Pool Meadow, please?
Thank you in advance
Bus Man K2
I work for Leamington, I'll get the message passed on for you
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on December 11, 2019, 08:49:08 PM
If there is anyone on here who posts from Stagecoach Warks, could you please send a batch of the U1/U2/U12 timetables to the NXC Travelshop in Pool Meadow, please?
Thank you in advance
Bus Man K2
Quote from: mrboshell on March 21, 2020, 08:47:37 PM
I work for Leamington, I'll get the message passed on for you
These have been available in the Coventry travelshop since the service started and are still available.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 22, 2020, 08:28:25 AM
These have been available in the Coventry travelshop since the service started and are still available.
I mean when the timetables run out. Also I have noticed that the wall of timetables outside the travelshop isn't always upto date. I know this timetable is available but when they run out it seems to take a long time for them to be sent. So that's why I'm posting here.
Quote from: Bus Man K2 on March 22, 2020, 09:22:20 AM
I mean when the timetables run out. Also I have noticed that the wall of timetables outside the travelshop isn't always upto date. I know this timetable is available but when they run out it seems to take a long time for them to be sent. So that's why I'm posting here.
The wall outside the travelshop is not managed by the travelshop. It is managed by TfWM. In both cases, there are no shortages of timetables so no more boxes of timetables are required and would be ordered by staff responsible when shortages arise.
Quote from: Adam 404 on March 22, 2020, 09:27:03 AM
The wall outside the travelshop is not managed by the travelshop. It is managed by TfWM. In both cases, there are no shortages of timetables so no more boxes of timetables are required and would be ordered by staff responsible when shortages arise.
I understand that, but take for example the Coventry circular service 60 and 61 timetable. The one on the wall in the travelshop is up to date, but the one on the wall outside is an older edition.
The one on the wall in the travelshop has no journey for the 43W as this service was withdrawn, however the one on the wall outside still includes the 43W. So obviously the timetables on the wall ontside aren't always up to date. Likewise the ones in the travleshop aren't also either, however since you have taken over it seems to have got a bit better.
With regards to the 74/78 timetable can't you contact arriva or ask one of their drivers for stocks?
All car parks in Coventry War Memorial park have been closed and large skips placed to prevent their usage. The main gates to Park and Ride site have been closed and are manned so they can be opened to allow the x17 to use the bus stop in the turning circle.
Stagecoach Warwickshire services are being increased from June 1st. Just seen my first 48C in Coventry.
48C Coventry to Nuneaton
48L Leicester to Nuneaton
48A Atherstone to Nuneaton
U12 is back too!
Quote from: JoNi on May 30, 2020, 09:29:35 AM
Stagecoach Warwickshire services are being increased from June 1st. Just seen my first 48C in Coventry.
48C Coventry to Nuneaton
48L Leicester to Nuneaton
48A Atherstone to Nuneaton
U12 is back too!
Are they actually using the letters in the route number, or just leaving it as "48"? Also, does this spell an end to the 748 that they've been running between Atherstone and Nuneaton in place of the 48's part of that route?https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and-offers/midlands/government-coronavirus-measures--changes-to-bus-services-warks
Ok I've just looked at their website and seen they've just changed 748 to 48A. 'Tis a bit weird that you've already seen a 48C when the changes aren't supposed to happen until Monday, but then again clicking through to the timetables say that they commence Saturday 30 May. Stagecoach are being weird.
It also says the 41 has been restored, but that's been running throughout. I usually pass one on my way home from work.
On further investigation despite the web page saying changes occur on 1st June the timetables in the link start on 30/5/2020 (today!), mind you the timetables for the Monday to Friday, Saturday and Sunday services all start on 30/5/2020. Typed Departure lists displayed in places such as Nuneaton bus station will presumably be replaced.
Quote from: ellspurs on May 30, 2020, 09:58:33 AM
Ok I've just looked at their website and seen they've just changed 748 to 48A. 'Tis a bit weird that you've already seen a 48C when the changes aren't supposed to happen until Monday, but then again clicking through to the timetables say that they commence Saturday 30 May. Stagecoach are being weird.
It also says the 41 has been restored, but that's been running throughout. I usually pass one on my way home from work.
It looks like the 748 is back to Sundays only.
My guess (and it is a guess) is that destination blinds have already been changed for next Monday.
I've noticed the 41 notice. The same appears about the Sunday 785/786. Again just a guess - maybe a couple of things that slipped through the net at what, to be fair, must have been a very busy week for the schedules and publicity team.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on May 30, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
It looks like the 748 is back to Sundays only.
My guess (and it is a guess) is that destination blinds have already been changed for next Monday.
I've noticed the 41 notice. The same appears about the Sunday 785/786. Again just a guess - maybe a couple of things that slipped through the net at what, to be fair, must have been a very busy week for the schedules and publicity team.
So they've just left whatever the latest update to that particular route in the notes section. Makes sense, and an easy thing to mix when like you've said there was a lot of stuff to be doing.
I've mentioned the 41 as it is the only route that uses Ansley Common (B4114), and I've been giving way to it to let it pass the parked cars. More timing than anything. And I've not been seeing the 0348 767 in Hartshill in the morning, but that's me not getting there in time to follow it through the village.
Stagecoach Warks bus service changes in recent years have commenced on Saturdays - which is non-standard in the West Midlands but I will assume it is their nationwide procedure.
Quote from: JPC on May 31, 2020, 12:11:46 AM
Stagecoach Warks bus service changes in recent years have commenced on Saturdays - which is non-standard in the West Midlands but I will assume it is their nationwide procedure.
It isn't non-standard in Warwickshire!
Sunday is the normal day for bus service changes in the West Midlands because West Midlands PTE standardised on it - which was probably because Birmingham City Transport had standardised on it (Walsall and West Bromwich Corporations normally made changes on Mondays).
Saturday was Midland Red's normal bus service changes day, and this has lasted down the years with Stagecoach Midlands, at least in Warwickshire - and I think also First Midlands and Arriva Midlands.
Does anybody know which garage is operating the ex DeCourcey routes 60 and 703?
Quote from: D10 on September 17, 2020, 04:17:13 PM
Does anybody know which garage is operating the ex DeCourcey routes 60 and 703?
One of Nuneaton or Rugby. They could be running one each.
Quote from: markcf83 on September 17, 2020, 07:25:29 PM
One of Nuneaton or Rugby. They could be running one each.
Nuneaton operates the 60 and 703
Rugby operates the S61 and S62 (Westwood Academy and Cardinal Newman)
Quote from: JPC on September 17, 2020, 08:38:00 PM
Nuneaton operates the 60 and 703
Rugby operates the S61 and S62 (Westwood Academy and Cardinal Newman)
Thanks for the info :)
Has anyone seen the two Man 300s at Nuneaton (22836 and 22837) in passenger service ? Their primary function
seems to be staff transport between Nuneaton garage and the Ricoh Bus station
Quote from: sandboy20 on December 04, 2020, 11:14:15 AM
Has anyone seen the two Man 300s at Nuneaton (22836 and 22837) in passenger service ? Their primary function
seems to be staff transport between Nuneaton garage and the Ricoh Bus station
how far is the depot from the bus station thanks
Quote from: Solo1 on December 04, 2020, 12:49:02 PM
how far is the depot from the bus station thanks
Ricoh bus station is by the Ricoh Arena in Coventry. Nuneaton garage is in Nuneaton, so several miles
Quote from: Solo1 on December 04, 2020, 12:49:02 PM
how far is the depot from the bus station thanks
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/52.5261602,-1.4690356/52.4433881,-1.4901553/@52.5013002,-1.4438788,13.35z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0
I did wonder why there were umpteen NIS Stagecoach buses running up and down the A444.
You can find out from Bustimes where the MAN300s are
Yesterday
22836 ran up and down ferrying drivers click on the "map" hyperlink adjacent 08:34 60 jny to get a visualisation.l
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/243934?date=2020-12-04
22837 ran alternatively on 703 and 60 all day
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/273541?date=2020-12-04
Quote from: JoNi on December 05, 2020, 06:37:04 PM
You can find out from Bustimes where the MAN300s are
Yesterday
22836 ran up and down ferrying drivers click on the "map" hyperlink adjacent 08:34 60 jny to get a visualisation.l
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/243934?date=2020-12-04
22837 ran alternatively on 703 and 60 all day
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/273541?date=2020-12-04
Wouldn't it be more cost-effective for them to have the drivers use the 48 to get between the two locations? Or is this to allow the buses to be used by just passengers.
Quote from: ellspurs on December 05, 2020, 07:12:40 PM
Wouldn't it be more cost-effective for them to have the drivers use the 48 to get between the two locations? Or is this to allow the buses to be used by just passengers.
Paying drivers to walk from the garage to the Bus Station, sit on a bus all stops soon mounts up in cost
Quote from: JoNi on December 05, 2020, 06:37:04 PM
You can find out from Bustimes where the MAN300s are
Yesterday
22836 ran up and down ferrying drivers click on the "map" hyperlink adjacent 08:34 60 jny to get a visualisation.l
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/243934?date=2020-12-04
22837 ran alternatively on 703 and 60 all day
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/273541?date=2020-12-04
Thanks for that. I will try and catch a ride one. As Nuneaton has seen fit to withdraw all its Man 200 39xxx vehicles anything other
than an Enviro 200 36xxx is a bonus
Quote from: ellspurs on December 05, 2020, 07:12:40 PM
Wouldn't it be more cost-effective for them to have the drivers use the 48 to get between the two locations? Or is this to allow the buses to be used by just passengers.
A number of operators are operating routes from depots to key changeover points. In Bristol 41x from Lawrence Hill depot to the Centre and 93x from Hengrove to Bristol Bus Station. There are plenty of bus routes running at high frequency levels. This is partly about minimising risk of COVID to drivers and operators will get £1 per mile for each journey as they are registered bus services.
Quote from: Tony on December 05, 2020, 07:23:43 PM
Paying drivers to walk from the garage to the Bus Station, sit on a bus all stops soon mounts up in cost
How does NXWM pay drivers, Tony. For example, on the Sutton rota a driver on an early turn starting at 5 am in depot may finish for the day in the City Centre at 2 pm.
Will their pay end when they relief or 20 minutes (or so) later in depot? Presumably if they relief on the road, unlike Diamond and some other operators, as there are no duty cards or cash do drivers need to go to depot before of after a duty?
If they have a break of say 50 minutes mid-duty do they get paid for that break?
Quote from: fleetline6477 on December 08, 2020, 08:27:06 PM
How does NXWM pay drivers, Tony. For example, on the Sutton rota a driver on an early turn starting at 5 am in depot may finish for the day in the City Centre at 2 pm.
Will their pay end when they relief or 20 minutes (or so) later in depot? Presumably if they relief on the road, unlike Diamond and some other operators, as there are no duty cards or cash do drivers need to go to depot before of after a duty?
If they have a break of say 50 minutes mid-duty do they get paid for that break?
At NX, you're paid 7hr 36 mins. Over 5 days, that averages 38 hours.
You're paid from depot start to depot end. Same with Diamond.
With NX, you do not need to physically return to the depot because as you say, there's no cash to pay in. Most times though, your car will be parked at the depot so you'll have to go back anyway to collect it. If you use public transport to get to and from work, this works in your favour as if you finished in say Solihull Town Centre (AG), and you live in Sheldon, there's no reason to travel back to AG depot and then make your way home to Sheldon.
37047 is the first bus at Leamington Depot to be repainted into the new livery. It's out today on 67's.
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/free-wifi-remains-turned-warwickshire-20720102
It seems that the Stagecoach buses with the "free WiFi" signs on haven't been giving out free WiFi since last year.
Quote from: ellspurs on June 03, 2021, 04:03:41 PM
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/free-wifi-remains-turned-warwickshire-20720102
It seems that the Stagecoach buses with the "free WiFi" signs on haven't been giving out free WiFi since last year.
Almost seems like a story to bash bus companies for the sake of it.
When Stagecoach Oxfordshire did that I'm sure they announced it as a cost cutting measure. In all honesty I haven't tried to use it since then. Think bus companies are realising that most people don't need WiFi on their journeys anymore, phone signal is pretty good most places and most phone contracts come with tonnes of data
NXC tweeted at 9:52am:
[tweet]1405810623485775877[/tweet]
Stagecoach tweeted at 10:10am:
[tweet]1405815101756743680[/tweet]
Coincidence or just plain unprofessionalism?
Quote from: JPC on June 18, 2021, 10:23:16 PM
NXC tweeted at 9:52am:
[tweet]1405810623485775877[/tweet]
Stagecoach tweeted at 10:10am:
[tweet]1405815101756743680[/tweet]
Coincidence or just plain unprofessionalism?
Or maybe just avoiding mixed messages by reiterating the same message
Said incident: https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/cyclist-dies-crash-involving-lorry-20846175
Naturally I didn't want to post a link on the sad incident, but to clarify to those who may have missed the above tweet(s), the core of the Stagecoach tweet is an exact copy and paste of the earlier NXC tweet.
The NXC tweet is now deleted as the incident has now passed - as they usually do with similar tweets for the purposes of avoiding confusion.
Where SC compete on same routes as NXC will there be a similar reduction in fares from Monday?
Has the covid bus grant finished ? If so I guess Stagecoach can manipulate its fares to make
them more competitive with NX Coventry if its sufficiently motivated by potential loss of
income.
THE FIRST full-electric, zero-emission bus has taken to the roads of Warwickshire.
National Grid, the UK's largest distributor of gas and electricity, has contracted Stagecoach to run the electric bus on a dedicated service for its staff.
It will run between Leamington town centre, the railway station, and the National Grid site at Warwick Technology Park.
Stagecoach has been contracted to operate the contract for five years
https://www.rugbyobserver.co.uk/news/full-electric-zero-emission-bus-hits-warwickshires-roads-30975/
Quote from: Sandy Lane on July 25, 2021, 07:18:07 PM
THE FIRST full-electric, zero-emission bus has taken to the roads of Warwickshire.
National Grid, the UK's largest distributor of gas and electricity, has contracted Stagecoach to run the electric bus on a dedicated service for its staff.
It will run between Leamington town centre, the railway station, and the National Grid site at Warwick Technology Park.
Stagecoach has been contracted to operate the contract for five years
https://www.rugbyobserver.co.uk/news/full-electric-zero-emission-bus-hits-warwickshires-roads-30975/
Wasn't that a Rotala contract?
10033 double decker in new livery out today on X18.
@2206 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tickets for Stagecoach pricing.
X18 journey from Coventry to Stratford tomorrow morning leaving around 10am is shown as £6.50 single, £8.10 return buying on the bus. Stagecoach Midlands dayticket (Gold Rider) is £9.60. All these are adult paper ticket prices with no concessions on them.
Quote from: ellspurs on September 12, 2021, 03:59:57 PM
@2206 https://www.stagecoachbus.com/tickets for Stagecoach pricing.
X18 journey from Coventry to Stratford tomorrow morning leaving around 10am is shown as £6.50 single, £8.10 return buying on the bus. Stagecoach Midlands dayticket (Gold Rider) is £9.60. All these are adult paper ticket prices with no concessions on them.
Thanks. I put in Stratford to Bidford on Avon and got the same price 8.10 return so that must be the standard fare for Warwickshire I guess.
It also seems transport in that area doesn't seem so well intergrated as the West Midlands, so if someone wants to say travel on a Johnsons and Stagecoach service in that county, they have to get 2 separate tickets, in the West Mids there is NBus.
Quote from: 2206 on September 12, 2021, 04:05:25 PM
Thanks. I put in Stratford to Bidford on Avon and got the same price 8.10 return so that must be the standard fare for Warwickshire I guess.
It also seems transport in that area doesn't seem so well intergrated as the West Midlands, so if someone wants to say travel on a Johnsons and Stagecoach service in that county, they have to get 2 separate tickets, in the West Mids there is NBus.
Yes - unfortunately there isn't a Warwickshire-wide ticket like there is in the West Mids or Worcestershire.
Johnsons actually do a day ticket (£11.00) - not currently advertised on their website - although when I tried to but one on the X20 in Shirley recently, the driver was unable to get one on the ticket machine until we reached the Warwickshire boundary!
The U12 has been cancelled until further notice, a notice on the stop in Pool Meadow. Seems odd although it never seemed to carry many
Quote from: Beano2211 on January 29, 2022, 09:16:49 AM
The U12 has been cancelled until further notice, a notice on the stop in Pool Meadow. Seems odd although it never seemed to carry many
Yes, it was suspended as from 22 January in order to improve reliability on other services operated by Leamington garage, due to driver shortages. If you go on Stagecoach Midlands' Twitter account you will see cancellations almost every day across the company.
Apparantly the Stagecoach Coventry daysaver ( Adult £4) is now valid as far as Nuneaton - no doubt
prompted by loss of market share to National Express Coventry
Quote from: sandboy20 on June 30, 2022, 10:21:41 AMApparantly the Stagecoach Coventry daysaver ( Adult £4) is now valid as far as Nuneaton - no doubt
prompted by loss of market share to National Express Coventry
And now valid to Binley Woods as well I think?
The Diamond in Stratford news has stated that Stagecoach have been awarded the tenders to cover the emergency tenders from the services that Diamond have lost. With Stagecoach's twitter full of news of cancelled services at short notice, are they going to have the capacity to cover it?
Also, they've won the tender for the service 7 from Measham to Fenny Drayton in North Warwickshire (2-hourly service) from Roberts. Roberts had been operating that service for quite some time, although I've not seen many passengers use it.
QuoteThe Diamond in Stratford news has stated that Stagecoach have been awarded the tenders to cover the emergency tenders from the services that Diamond have lost. With Stagecoach's twitter full of news of cancelled services at short notice, are they going to have the capacity to cover it?
Also, they've won the tender for the service 7 from Measham to Fenny Drayton in North Warwickshire (2-hourly service) from Roberts. Roberts had been operating that service for quite some time, although I've not seen many passengers use it.
And they have to staff the commonwealth games next month.
Quote from: Tony on June 30, 2022, 06:32:39 PMAnd they have to staff the commonwealth games next month.
Could we see other companies called into help at the last minute? :/
QuoteCould we see other companies called into help at the last minute? :/
They are using other companies as well, but I have heard that every Stagecoach company will need to provide 10% of their staff, don't know that is definitely correct though.
And now Stagecoach Warks have won the Warks tender for the X20... (Stratford Hearld (https://www.stratford-herald.com/news/bus-company-stagecoach-will-run-stratfords-x20-service-9262064/))
I wonder if it will be a Nuneaton or Leamington spa route
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 03, 2022, 02:37:41 AMI wonder if it will be a Nuneaton or Leamington spa route
Iirc the Coventry - Solihull bit
was a TfWM tender (IIRC it was tendered since Central Connect ran it (but I'm not 100% sure?) as the 82 - the revised version that only partly replaced the NX Cov 82) and I think it still is, so I think it will be Stagecoach Leamington for the Stratford - Solihull section, as Diamond said they were keeping the Solihull - Coventry bit
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2022, 02:43:15 AMIirc the Coventry - Solihull bit was a TfWM tender (IIRC it was tendered since Central Connect ran it (but I'm not 100% sure?) as the 82 - the revised version that only partly replaced the NX Cov 82) and I think it still is, so I think it will be Stagecoach Leamington for the Stratford - Solihull section, as Diamond said they were keeping the Solihull - Coventry bit
Wonder if the new x20 will continue to serve coventry or will it become a new express route between Stratford and Solihull
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2022, 02:43:15 AMIirc the Coventry - Solihull bit was a TfWM tender (IIRC it was tendered since Central Connect ran it (but I'm not 100% sure?) as the 82 - the revised version that only partly replaced the NX Cov 82) and I think it still is, so I think it will be Stagecoach Leamington for the Stratford - Solihull section, as Diamond said they were keeping the Solihull - Coventry bit
I think that's likely - with the Stagecoach service probably run from Stratford, which is an outstation of Leamington depot nowadays.
It was Johnsons who combined the 82 (Coventry - Solihull: TfWM tender) with the 20 (Shirley Station - Stratford: mainly commercial) to form the X20 in 2019. Will the new Stratford service run through to Solihull, or will it only reach Shirley, which would just about allow buses to do a round trip in a tidy 2 hours?
Am I the only person confused by this where will they change drivers if needed I mean the x18 coventry to Stratford change in Leamington so would a driver be able to complete it in his allotted driving time
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 03, 2022, 04:42:23 AMWonder if the new x20 will continue to serve coventry or will it become a new express route between Stratford and Solihull
If I'm reading things correctly, Stagecoach will operate the X20 between Stratford and Solihull only.
I would imagine that Diamond will renumber the Solihull to Coventry section back to 82.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 03, 2022, 10:30:14 AMAm I the only person confused by this where will they change drivers if needed I mean the x18 coventry to Stratford change in Leamington so would a driver be able to complete it in his allotted driving time
As Stagecoach are set to do a load of the ex Johnsons routes, I suspect they'll do driver changes at Stratford
The X20 are two separate tenders.
20 (Stratford to Shirley) - subsidised by WCC
82 (Solihull to Coventry) - subsidised by TfWM
Johnson's simply merged them together, presumably for operational efficiencies and to attract more passengers. The new operator(s) have no obligation to continue running them as a "through route".
This is why you'll also notice that from Coventry, buses would display Solihull as the destination, and "then Stratford" or similar.
In the case of the X20 between Stratford & Solihull, the actual wording is:
Will operate current timetable in full until 14/8/22. From 14/8/22 service will operate between Coventry to Solihull only. We understand Warwick County Council intend to tender a replacement service for withdrawn Solihull to Stratford section.
Quote from: 4369Beast on July 03, 2022, 02:21:10 PMIn the case of the X20 between Stratford & Solihull, the actual wording is:
Will operate current timetable in full until 14/8/22. From 14/8/22 service will operate between Coventry to Solihull only. We understand Warwick County Council intend to tender a replacement service for withdrawn Solihull to Stratford section.
Have diamond won the contact already as I believe the 89 is also up for re tender
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 03, 2022, 02:25:44 PMHave diamond won the contact already as I believe the 89 is also up for re tender
As the trainbasher says in a post earlier today, the Stratford Herald has reported that Stagecoach have won the (Warwickshire County Council) tender for the Stratford end of the X20.
The 89 is a TfWM tender and Diamond have said that the service is being withdrawn.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on July 03, 2022, 02:56:53 PMAs the trainbasher says in a post earlier today, the Stratford Herald has reported that Stagecoach have won the (Warwickshire County Council) tender for the Stratford end of the X20.
The 89 is a TfWM tender and Diamond have said that the service is being withdrawn.
The Stratford herald also says it will continue to severe coventry
STAGECOACH is to take over the running of the X20 bus service, it was confirmed this week.The Herald reported last week that work was taking place to save the service, which runs between Stratford to Coventry via Alcester, Studley and Henley, after bus company Diamond said it was pulling out.
Warwickshire County Council said this week that Stagecoach had won the tender and new timetables would be "available in due course".
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 03, 2022, 03:08:18 PMThe Stratford herald also says it will continue to severe coventry
Who would you believe first, a bus service operator or a third party media outlet?
The 89 which is or was the most costly per user TfWM bus tender is being abandoned in favour of demand responsive services (and incase anyone hadn't noticed this was also the fate of the Coventry 41/47 services from 23rd Apr 22).
Johnsons were originally awarded the Solihull-Coventry 82 at the end of January 2019 and merged it with X20 in Sept 2019, then presumably Diamond took over the existing terms of the contract - my money would be on the Solihull-Coventry contract not being due for renewal until end of January 2024 (5 years).
I think the Alcester, Studley, etc bit is also just a school days PM variation. Maybe to give the 239 service a return journey of some sort. Normal line of route is via Wooton Wawen.
Quote from: 2206 on July 03, 2022, 03:52:49 PMI think the Alcester, Studley, etc bit is also just a school days PM variation. Maybe to give the 239 service a return journey of some sort. Normal line of route is via Wooton Wawen.
Yes, that's right. The Herald's report was not accurate in that respect either.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 03, 2022, 03:08:18 PMThe Stratford herald also says it will continue to severe coventry
STAGECOACH is to take over the running of the X20 bus service, it was confirmed this week.
The Herald reported last week that work was taking place to save the service, which runs between Stratford to Coventry via Alcester, Studley and Henley, after bus company Diamond said it was pulling out.
Warwickshire County Council said this week that Stagecoach had won the tender and new timetables would be "available in due course".
The Stratford Herald also says the X20 serves Alcester and Studley, which it doesn't. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Stu on July 03, 2022, 05:07:00 PMThe Stratford Herald also says the X20 serves Alcester and Studley, which it doesn't. :rolleyes:
It does on school days (16:55 ex Stratford, arrives Coventry 19:13) https://www.diamondbuses.com/worcester-warwickshire/bus-services/x20-stratford/
Quote from: JPC on July 03, 2022, 03:32:07 PMThe 89 which is or was the most costly per user TfWM bus tender is being abandoned in favour of demand responsive services (and incase anyone hadn't noticed this was also the fate of the Coventry 41/47 services from 23rd Apr 22).
I wouldn't be surprised to see more tendered routes converted to DRT
Quote from: JPC on July 03, 2022, 03:32:07 PMJohnsons were originally awarded the Solihull-Coventry 82 at the end of January 2019 and merged it with X20 in Sept 2019, then presumably Diamond took over the existing terms of the contract - my money would be on the Solihull-Coventry contract not being due for renewal until end of January 2024 (5 years).
IIRC it was tendered since Central Connect took it over following NX Cov withdrawing their 82 (which went via Tile Hill, not Milsons Wood/Allesley), which itself was a replacement for the 19W/X, which replaced the 192/4 in the 2009 Solihull Network Review
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2022, 05:48:57 PMIt does on school days (16:55 ex Stratford, arrives Coventry 19:13) https://www.diamondbuses.com/worcester-warwickshire/bus-services/x20-stratford/
OK fair enough, but doesn't serve them regularly.
Quote from: the trainbasher on July 03, 2022, 05:52:43 PMIIRC it was tendered since Central Connect took it over following NX Cov withdrawing their 82 (which went via Tile Hill, not Milsons Wood/Allesley), which itself was a replacement for the 19W/X, which replaced the 192/4 in the 2009 Solihull Network Review
Excuse my poor choice of wording, you can guess I didn't attain a pass in English. I am considerably aware of the history of the service, I was referring to the start of the current ongoing contract which was awarded to Johnsons.
Warwickshire County Council has now released details of changes to the services Diamond are giving up after 24 July. They are here: https://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/news/article/3056/alterations-to-bus-services-in-the-stratford-upon-avon-south-warwickshire-areas-from-monday-25th-july-2022 (https://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/news/article/3056/alterations-to-bus-services-in-the-stratford-upon-avon-south-warwickshire-areas-from-monday-25th-july-2022).
The key features are: -
- All services will pass to Stagecoach, except that Stratford town services 4 and 5 will be jointly operated with A&M Group.
- The Sunday X50 Birmingham - Chipping Norton will be replaced by 50 Stratford - Chipping Norton and X20 Stratford - Solihull (so Stu is right!), in line with Mon-Sat services.
- The X20 between Stratford and Solihull, which ceases after operation on 13 August, is currently out to tender. Talking of which, I see that last week's Stratford Herald article claiming that it was going to Stagecoach has been removed from its website.
Timetables are not yet available, but apart from some reductions on three services, it looks like service levels generally will be similar to now.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on July 07, 2022, 09:21:39 PMThe X20 between Stratford and Solihull, which ceases after operation on 13 August, is currently out to tender. Talking of which, I see that last week's Stratford Herald article claiming that it was going to Stagecoach has been removed from its website.
"Factually inaccurate" is probably a polite way of putting it. :laugh:
Someone clearly got the wrong end of the stick, regarding the X20 then. Stagecoach had (at the time) presumably only won the Sunday contract, which is currently operated as the X50.
It's a shame they're reducing the Stratford - Banbury services, I thought the area had a real chance of better bus use when Johnson's made the end to end a more clockface hourly service, but so be it.
Does however mean that my already ludicrous Stagecoach West bus pass will get me that bit even further, and I am absolutely fine with that
so far 2 Optare Solo SR's and 3 Optare Solo's are at Nuneaton depot to cover some of the Gold MMC's for the Commonwealth games
Buses seen over so far:
- 4787 Optare Solo SR - Beachball Livery
- 47211 Optare Solo - Beachball Livery
- 47236 Optare Solo - Beachball Livery
- 47316 Optare Solo - Beachball Livery
- 47817 Optare Solo SR - Stagecoach Local Livery
Quote from: Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer on July 12, 2022, 07:12:57 AMso far 2 Optare Solo SR's and 3 Optare Solo's are at Nuneaton depot to cover some of the Gold MMC's for the Commonwealth games
Buses seen over so far:
- 4787 Optare Solo SR - Beachball Livery
- 47211 Optare Solo - Beachball Livery
- 47236 Optare Solo - Beachball Livery
- 47316 Optare Solo - Beachball Livery
- 47817 Optare Solo SR - Stagecoach Local Livery
All loaned from South Wales. Incidentally we've loaned four Enviros to Eastbourne.
Now confirmed that Stagecoach will be operating the Mon-Sat X20 service between Stratford and Solihull:
https://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/news/article/3093/warwickshire-county-council-and-stagecoach-secure-bus-services-for-the-future
Has anyone any knowledge as to what Stagecoach is proposing when the Coventry bus network
goes 100% electric as it runs a number of services into the city from Nuneaton, Rugby and
Kenilworth/Leamington Spa.
Quote from: sandboy20 on July 23, 2022, 11:05:35 AMHas anyone any knowledge as to what Stagecoach is proposing when the Coventry bus network
goes 100% electric as it runs a number of services into the city from Nuneaton, Rugby and
Kenilworth/Leamington Spa.
While there's not been any timeline or schedule announced yet (not that I can find), it is the case that Stagecoach will have electric buses operating in Coventry by 2025.
They will probably have cast offs from Manchester and London as I can't see stagecoach investing in a fully electric fleet for such a small number of routes
I thought it was investment money from the Government for the Electric Buses scheme? It depends whether Stagecoach will be owning them or whether Cov council/someone else will own them and they lease them.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on July 23, 2022, 03:09:11 PMThey will probably have cast offs from Manchester and London as I can't see stagecoach investing in a fully electric fleet for such a small number of routes
They will only need enough electric vehicles (plus a few spares) to cover those routes that operate through Coventry. And they've got until 2025 to do this, so no immediate rush.
Though like NX Bus, Stagecoach have announced they intend to have a full zero-emission fleet by 2035.
X18 diverting in Warwick along Gallows Hill, Europa Way.
For some reason Evasham - Stratford, Stratford - Coventry are both called the X18. Though through journeys are no longer possible, so 2 different services with the same number.
Quote from: 2206 on August 06, 2022, 03:04:13 PMX18 diverting in Warwick along Gallows Hill, Europa Way.
For some reason Evasham - Stratford, Stratford - Coventry are both called the X18. Though through journeys are no longer possible, so 2 different services with the same number.
I suppose they didn't want to go with X18e and X18c. *looks at the 48*
People would just look at the destination, and assume they need to swap buses in Stratford if they wanted to go through.
They've got the Commonwealth Games cycling road race around Warwick tomorrow, so this diversion may be for them setting up for the event.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 06, 2022, 03:21:26 PMI suppose they didn't want to go with X18e and X18c. *looks at the 48*
People would just look at the destination, and assume they need to swap buses in Stratford if they wanted to go through.
They've got the Commonwealth Games cycling road race around Warwick tomorrow, so this diversion may be for them setting up for the event.
Could just go back to Evasham being the 28. Or even maybe X28.
Same with Coventry to Solihull, that could go back to being the 82 rather than the X20.
Today is the first day of Stagecoach running the Mon-Sat X20 between Stratford and Solihull. Unfortunately the service is not tracking on bustimes.org, but two double decks have appeared today - ADL Enviro 400 10037 and Scania Enviro 400 15675 (the one in traditional Stratford Blue livery).
Stagecoach have also operated double decks on the X20 on the Sunday service since this started on 31 July.
As it happens, Diamond have also have double decks on its X20, which from today runs just between Solihull and Coventry. The DDs today are ex-Johnsons Optare MetroDeckers 40844 and 40845.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on August 15, 2022, 05:21:14 PMToday is the first day of Stagecoach running the Mon-Sat X20 between Stratford and Solihull. Unfortunately the service is not tracking on bustimes.org, but two double decks have appeared today - ADL Enviro 400 10037 and Scania Enviro 400 15675 (the one in traditional Stratford Blue livery).
Stagecoach have also operated double decks on the X20 on the Sunday service since this started on 31 July.
As it happens, Diamond have also have double decks on its X20, which from today runs just between Solihull and Coventry. The DDs today are ex-Johnsons Optare MetroDeckers 40844 and 40845.
None of the Stratford services that they took over from Diamond are tracking on bustimes I've no idea why I thought initially it was just teething problems with there ticket machines or tracking systems but as we are now 3 weeks in I thought it may of been rectified but clearly not
Stagecoach have won the Solihull-Coventry tenders that Diamond had stated they had not won.
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2022, 02:03:53 PMStagecoach have won the Solihull-Coventry tenders that Diamond had stated they had not won.
Interesting wonder if it will be ran by leamington on Nuneaton
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2022, 02:03:53 PMStagecoach have won the Solihull-Coventry tenders that Diamond had stated they had not won.
Excellent, that means then they will be running the whole X20 after Diamond finish on the 28th was there no interest in the route by NX
@Tony? - as I know from looking at old pictures on Flickr that they did run it many years ago
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 18, 2022, 02:30:01 PMInteresting wonder if it will be ran by leamington on Nuneaton
Think its probably almost certain to be Leamington, like the X20 to Stratford.
Leamington is probably nearer to Solihull/Balsall Common than Nuneaton is.
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2022, 02:03:53 PMStagecoach have won the Solihull-Coventry tenders that Diamond had stated they had not won.
Thanks for the confirmation. I always thought that it was only ever likely to be one of Landflight, NX Bus or Stagecoach, and of the three I would have probably put money on Stagecoach.
It'll be interesting to see if Stagecoach decide to bid in future on any other Solihull area routes that come up for tender, could this just be the start of their entry into the West Midlands?
Quote from: Tony on August 18, 2022, 02:03:53 PMStagecoach have won the Solihull-Coventry tenders that Diamond had stated they had not won.
I wonder why they are taking on more work but can't cover the work they are already operating due to driver shortages (according to their Twitter feed)
Have the length of these contracts been confirmed? I keep hearing that these have been awarded on an emergency basis up until the end of 2022.
Quote from: metrocity on August 18, 2022, 09:14:37 PMI wonder why they are taking on more work but can't cover the work they are already operating due to driver shortages (according to their Twitter feed)
That's only the same as NX are doing, taking on new work while original core routes are suffering due to staff shortages
Quote from: Steveminor on August 18, 2022, 09:40:17 PMThat's only the same as NX are doing, taking on new work while original core routes are suffering due to staff shortages
Fair point
Nuneaton running the Cov-Solihull routes, and that section of the X20 is renumbered back to 82, timetables on their website already.
Presumably these routes would eventually have to be electric to be allowed into Coventry?
Quote from: Kevin on August 22, 2022, 02:26:25 PMNuneaton running the Cov-Solihull routes, and that section of the X20 is renumbered back to 82, timetables on their website already.
Presumably these routes would eventually have to be electric to be allowed into Coventry?
They would've had to have been regardless of operator.
The 82 is already on the bus stop flags in Catherine-de-Barnes.
Given it is a subsidised service, the authorities will hopefully help subsidise that aspect as well.
Quote from: Kevin on August 22, 2022, 02:26:25 PMNuneaton running the Cov-Solihull routes, and that section of the X20 is renumbered back to 82, timetables on their website already.
Presumably these routes would eventually have to be electric to be allowed into Coventry?
From bus times route change in Meriden to follow the X1 it seems.
Only serving the bottom end 1 way.
Quote from: 2206 on August 22, 2022, 02:51:41 PMFrom bus times route change in Meriden to follow the X1 it seems.
Only serving the bottom end 1 way.
The to-Coventry timetable (https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Nuneaton%20Timetables/29th%20January%202022/E82%20TT%20220828.pdf) has a timing point at Millisons Wood, Albert Road. If what you've said is true then it wouldn't be able to serve this stop.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 22, 2022, 03:08:56 PMThe to-Coventry timetable (https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Nuneaton%20Timetables/29th%20January%202022/E82%20TT%20220828.pdf) has a timing point at Millisons Wood, Albert Road. If what you've said is true then it wouldn't be able to serve this stop.
Bus Times have the timing point as Millions Wood, Showell Lane to Coventry and a new millions wood resevoir stop on the stop list.
https://bustimes.org/stops/43000133501
If they are only 4 month contracts until a network review in January 2023, they won't get zero emission vehicles during the time of the contract I guess.
Quote from: 2206 on August 22, 2022, 03:11:01 PMBus Times have the timing point as Millions Wood, Showell Lane to Coventry and a new millions wood resevoir stop on the stop list.
https://bustimes.org/stops/43000133501
If they are only 4 month contracts until a network review in January 2023, they won't get zero emission vehicles during the time of the contract I guess.
Unless they clarify on Stagecoach's website, I'd probably go off what they say rather than bustimes.
Bustimes still says there's a bus stop here (https://bustimes.org/stops/43000184001), for instance.
Quote from: ellspurs on August 22, 2022, 03:32:14 PMUnless they clarify on Stagecoach's website, I'd probably go off what they say rather than bustimes.
Bustimes still says there's a bus stop here (https://bustimes.org/stops/43000184001), for instance.
NXWM website says the 94 stops there as well though.
https://nxbus.co.uk/west-midlands/services-timetables/94-birmingham-chelmsley-wood
Quote from: Kevin on August 22, 2022, 02:26:25 PMNuneaton running the Cov-Solihull routes, and that section of the X20 is renumbered back to 82, timetables on their website already.
I can't keep up with all this chopping and changing!
If Diamond had continued to operate the Coventry to Solihull section, it would have made sense to renumber that to 82, but I was told that TfWM wanted to keep it as X20.
And now Stagecoach have won both contracts, I would have assumed the intention was to keep it as one through service from Stratford to Coventry as before.
Although now with the addition of the 87/88 services, I would imagine Stagecoach have different ideas, perhaps by reintroducing the 82 as a seperate service, they plan to do some interworking between the three routes.
I travelled on the Solihull - Coventry section of the X20 a week ago and saw that TfWM had changed all bus stops as far as Allesley to show 82 instead of X20 (the Allesley - Pool Meadow stops had not been changed). Perhaps TfWM decided by the time thet did that to use the number 82.
I presume Leamington - or its Stratford outstation - will continue to operate the Solihull - Stratford X20. Double decks still appear on it.
Quote from: Stu on August 22, 2022, 06:33:21 PMI can't keep up with all this chopping and changing!
Passengers , myself included feel very much the same. It is confusing enough when buses in different liveries appear on the same route - and this applies to many operators out there. And before anyone says it , I fully appreciate a bus in any colour is better than no bus at all. :kiss:
Quote from: Stu on August 22, 2022, 06:33:21 PMI can't keep up with all this chopping and changing!
If Diamond had continued to operate the Coventry to Solihull section, it would have made sense to renumber that to 82, but I was told that TfWM wanted to keep it as X20.
And now Stagecoach have won both contracts, I would have assumed the intention was to keep it as one through service from Stratford to Coventry as before.
Although now with the addition of the 87/88 services, I would imagine Stagecoach have different ideas, perhaps by reintroducing the 82 as a seperate service, they plan to do some interworking between the three routes.
It doesn't help when there is a lack of any official information literally days before the changes take effect. TFWM are a disgrace.
All summed up on SC web page.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-22/08/2022-11:11:36:400
Your Coventry & Solihull bus network is growing from 28th August 2022We are proud to announce we will be running new routes in Coventry & Solihull areas from 28th August 2022, on behalf of Transport for West Midlands (TfWM)Route 82/X20Journeys between Coventry, Allesley Village, Meriden, Hampton in Arden, Catherine De Barnes & Solihull will run as route 82 up to every hour
Journeys between Solihull, Hockley Heath, Henley-in-Arden and Stratford will run as route X20 up to every hour.
These routes will run separately, and a change of bus will be required. Through tickets are not available but we offer a range of Day tickets to use across our routes.
Click here for route 82 timetable
Route 87
This route will run between Coventry, Cannon Park, Burton Green, Balsall Common, Knowle and Solihull up to every hour.
Some journeys also serve the Jaguar Land Rover Fen End site.
Additional journeys run on route 88 between Balsall Common, Knowle and Solihull.
Click here for route 87 timetable
Route 88
This route will run between Balsall Common, Chadwick End, Knowle and Solihull up to every hour.
Some journeys also serve the Jaguar Land Rover Fen End site.
Additional journeys run on route 88 between Balsall Common, Knowle and Solihull.
Click here for route 88 timetable
Could the 82/87 use the golds that are based out of Nuneaton as the 48 has been split?
Quote from: metrocity on August 23, 2022, 10:13:15 PMIt doesn't help when there is a lack of any official information literally days before the changes take effect. TFWM are a disgrace.
Well, it technically changes tomorrow, and still no notices from TfWM. The timetables for the Stagecoach services seem to be up, but the "upcoming bus service changes" page hasn't been touched this week.
Also, from Stagecoach's Twitter: https://twitter.com/StagecoachMids
Lots of cancellations due to lack of staff or a breakdown. They seem to be trying to keep away from the new services although there are a couple of Stratford service 3 and X20 cancellations in the last few days.
Found out today X20 route has changed in Stratford. Seemingly no longer goes into the Railway Station there like Johnsons/Diamond did and the bus towards Solihull now leaves from the opposite side of the road in Stratford, like it used to many years ago. Didn't realise it was the wrong side till I saw it come in.
People in Solihull gave up looking for X20 stop and timetable, not even on the flag of a single TFWM bus stop.
Quote from: 2206 on August 29, 2022, 03:15:13 PMFound out today X20 route has changed in Stratford. Seemingly no longer goes into the Railway Station there like Johnsons/Diamond did and the bus towards Solihull now leaves from the opposite side of the road in Stratford, like it used to many years ago. Didn't realise it was the wrong side till I saw it come in.
People in Solihull gave up looking for X20 stop and timetable, not even on the flag of a single TFWM bus stop.
I always wondered why the X20 served Stratford Railway Station, as surely passengers from the X20 wouldn't want to catch Birmingham trains. However, the last time I used an X20 someone did get off at the station, so what I do know ...
Did you notice that the X20 and 50 interwork on Sundays, and that the X20 does a loop in Solihull, only serving the Railway Station on the way out?
I agree it's frustrating that bus stops don't mention the X20. I've reported this to TfWM; I wonder how long it will take for them to put this right.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on August 29, 2022, 09:19:31 PMI always wondered why the X20 served Stratford Railway Station, as surely passengers from the X20 wouldn't want to catch Birmingham trains. However, the last time I used an X20 someone did get off at the station, so what I do know ...
Did you notice that the X20 and 50 interwork on Sundays, and that the X20 does a loop in Solihull, only serving the Railway Station on the way out?
I agree it's frustrating that bus stops don't mention the X20. I've reported this to TfWM; I wonder how long it will take for them to put this right.
Yes I did notice both of those and also one passenger did a 4 hour rounds trip on it all the way to Chipping Norton and back I believe.
It had a short wait in the Town Centre at Solihull and Stratford, while it waits its departure time then carries on.
Tbh I did it weird that it served Solihull station as you can get a direct service from Solihull to Stratford Upon Avon in 35 mins Vs 1hr on the X20
Maybe because it can be useful as an alternative if the trains are up the spout
All Stagecoach Warks buses are displaying a remembering Queen Elizabeth II message on them. Alternates between that and the normal service display.
Stagecoach Warwickshire have a Stratford Trident in Birmingham this afternoon in the pride. Saw it on the High Street. Might be 18482
This weekend sees a full weekend closure of the M42 between 5 and 6 ( 10pm tonight to 5am Monday)with a local diversion in place. Will be interestng to see if Stagecoach's Solihull routes are affected much.
The national highways diversion is via Solihull bypass, damson parkway, A45. However I can see many motorists going via Hampton Lane and Catherine de Barnes Lane. So the 82 could get caught up in it.
The lights at the junction of A41/Hampton Lane/Yew Tree Lane are awful, it's a busy junction any time so can the traffic going back to motorway junction unless the council have altered them with this work going on. If not the Balsall Common routes might face delays also
Closure of M42 has been postponed probably because of the rail strikes although someone on FB has already said it's because of the Tory Party Conference!
Quote from: BrumKev86 on October 01, 2022, 09:40:27 AMClosure of M42 has been postponed probably because of the rail strikes although someone on FB has already said it's because of the Tory Party Conference!
Suppose the Tories need an alternative route home in case there's an issue with the M6 M1 route!
Surely they'll all just teleport back to their constituencies using their secret teleporters that they have been spending all of the money on?
Back on topic, it seems that Warwickshire Stagecoach has not been hit as badly as what's going on in Stagecoach East at the moment, where lots of routes are being cut (https://www.route-one.net/news/18-routes-to-go-as-stagecoach-east-realigns-network/) and places like Chatteris are losing all of their services.
There is a temp diversion for the 86 between 2000 and 0600 from the edge of Coventry through Binley Woods.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-28/10/2022-16:02:25:189
"Due to a night closure from 28th October - 3rd December 2022 between 20:00-06:00 the A46 Coventry Eastern Bypass Island, Binley Woods will not be served.
We will be unable to serve the stop at Morrisons Binley and all stops along the A428 Rugby in Binley woods."
OK so it says where they are not serving but can anyone work out how and where it gets back onto route?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on November 01, 2022, 06:42:46 PMThere is a temp diversion for the 86 between 2000 and 0600 from the edge of Coventry through Binley Woods.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-28/10/2022-16:02:25:189
"Due to a night closure from 28th October - 3rd December 2022 between 20:00-06:00 the A46 Coventry Eastern Bypass Island, Binley Woods will not be served.
We will be unable to serve the stop at Morrisons Binley and all stops along the A428 Rugby in Binley woods."
OK so it says where they are not serving but can anyone work out how and where it gets back onto route?
At a guess, from Binley:
Willenhall Lane, St. James Lane, B4110 London Road, Toll Bar Island, A45, Brandon Lane through to Brandon. Reverse would involve coming onto the A45 and driving down and around the A423 slip road to turn around at the UK Mail place before coming back to Toll Bar Island.
If they want to maintain the same route both ways, they'll need to continue down the A45 to Ryton, then left onto Warwick Road, through Wolston to the B4555 and then into Bretford that way.
That junction has been shut many, many, many times in the past few weeks, so possibly check bustimes to see if they've done a diversion previously.
It appears to only affect one bus either way as their last bus of the day is at 8pm.
Quote from: ellspurs on November 01, 2022, 07:01:30 PMAt a guess, from Binley:
Willenhall Lane, St. James Lane, B4110 London Road, Toll Bar Island, A45, Brandon Lane through to Brandon. Reverse would involve coming onto the A45 and driving down and around the A423 slip road to turn around at the UK Mail place before coming back to Toll Bar Island.
If they want to maintain the same route both ways, they'll need to continue down the A45 to Ryton, then left onto Warwick Road, through Wolston to the B4555 and then into Bretford that way.
That junction has been shut many, many, many times in the past few weeks, so possibly check bustimes to see if they've done a diversion previously.
It appears to only affect one bus either way as their last bus of the day is at 8pm.
Thanks, it could be.
Thing is that I dont think the A428 is closed, it is just the A46 above the A428. If so the divert is daft?
Last bus back to Rugby tonight is abt 8.33 from Cov. Wonder how it will show on bustimes.org map?
The quote from Stagecoach would suggest the diversion starts from Skipworth Rd roundabout and ends at Brandon gyratory so the diversion is most likely via Skipworth Rd, B4428 to Brinklow, B4455 to Bretford and A428 to Brandon.
Bustimes indicates over the past few evenings the buses are going via Brinklow but its is rather pot luck what is being served, some miss out Brandon Road in Coventry yet some continue to serve the 'unserved' Morrisons stop and turnaround, some have completely missed out Brandon and Wolston villages - not trying to tar Stagecoach with this as I'm sure the same antics would have occurred with any other operator.
Quote from: JPC on November 01, 2022, 11:13:45 PMThe quote from Stagecoach would suggest the diversion starts from Skipworth Rd roundabout and ends at Brandon gyratory so the diversion is most likely via Skipworth Rd, B4428 to Brinklow, B4455 to Bretford and A428 to Brandon.
Bustimes indicates over the past few evenings the buses are going via Brinklow but its is rather pot luck what is being served, some miss out Brandon Road in Coventry yet some continue to serve the 'unserved' Morrisons stop and turnaround, some have completely missed out Brandon and Wolston villages - not trying to tar Stagecoach with this as I'm sure the same antics would have occurred with any other operator.
Bustimes last night the 8:33 from Cov to Rugby also calls at Cov Hospital. From Cliffordbridge rd it went onto the A4428 past Coombe and as you say Brinklow, Bretford & Brandon to get back on route. But as I said Idont think the A428 is closed and sothe divert is not necessary??. It is the A46that is closed and that goes over the top of the A428????
I think the roundabout is shut under the a46. The times I've passed over there in recent months, the slip roads have been closed coming off the a46, so they may have closed the whole lot off this time.
EDIT: I've just looked on one.network and it is just the roundabout that's closed. Sometimes they close the a46 as well for the fun of it (the number of times I've had to divert through Binley and Walsgrave) but it is just the roundabout that is listed as closed.
Think it was the X18. Decker going into Coventry pulled up on London Rd. All passengers off and clouds of steam coming from engine.
I see stagecoach will run the 7 in coventry on sundays and after 6pm
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/upcoming-bus-changes/bus-service-changes-from-1-january-2023/
And quite a few changes are being made across Warwickshire from 31 December ...
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-05/12/2022-10:04:24:141 (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-05/12/2022-10:04:24:141)
... although most of the new timetables have 1st, 2nd or 3rd Jan 2023 dates. I wonder which date is correct, as Stagecoach are running a Saturday service on 31 December.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on December 05, 2022, 09:24:21 PMI see stagecoach will run the 7 in coventry on sundays and after 6pm
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/upcoming-bus-changes/bus-service-changes-from-1-january-2023/
I recall Midland Red South operating service 23 to Allesley Park in the evenings & Sunday just after deregulation - mostly Leyland Nationals but double decks did occasionally appear. Did they cover the 7 [in its 1986 format] as well ?
Quote from: paulb1973 on December 05, 2022, 10:23:19 PMI recall Midland Red South operating service 23 to Allesley Park in the evenings & Sunday just after deregulation - mostly Leyland Nationals but double decks did occasionally appear. Did they cover the 7 [in its 1986 format] as well ?
Yes, Midland Red South operated the 7 on Sundays between 1989 and 1997.
At Deregulation MRS ran on 5/6 (Coundon), 14 (Fenside & Finham), 17 (Walsgrave Hospital) and 23 (Allesley Park). Most were just on Sundays, but the 14 also ran evenings all week. Leamington, Nuneaton and Rugby garages were all involved.
Other Coventry city services were operated on tender until the late 1990s. Also, a number of minibus services were operated mostly commercially Mon-Sat between 1990 and 2001 - mostly from an outstation in Rowley Drive shared with Vanguard Coaches.
The 86 Rugby - Cov timetable looks like its reduced to hourly from year end. Thats a big cut!
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-05/12/2022-10:04:24:141
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Rugby%20Timetables/January%202023/R86%20TT%20230103.pdf
It seems stagecoach now have a new bus route in coventry the route 51 coundon - arena park
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on December 17, 2022, 06:47:40 PMIt seems stagecoach now have a new bus route in coventry the route 51 coundon - arena park
Do you have a link please?
Quote from: Stu on December 17, 2022, 07:43:57 PMDo you have a link please?
https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=6354.msg306908#new
And theres signs up in pool meadow bus staion
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on December 17, 2022, 06:47:40 PMIt seems stagecoach now have a new bus route in coventry the route 51 coundon - arena park
I'm already getting visions of this new 51 being interworked with the 82! covered with five buses i.e doing duties of up to 4 hours 15 mins then a 45 mins break at Pool Meadow.
Quote from: Stu on December 17, 2022, 07:43:57 PMDo you have a link please?
Poster in pool meadow by the small door next to Stand P
Stagecoach seem to have postponed the increase in the Coventry daysaver (was due to go up from £4.00 to £4.20
on Dec 4th). However single fare increase has gone ahead, for instance I was charged £4.20 SINGLE from Nuneaton
bus station to Smorrall Lane (Bedworth) and £3.30 SINGLE George Eliot Hospital to Bedworth town Centre.
Quote from: sandboy20 on December 18, 2022, 01:47:39 PMStagecoach seem to have postponed the increase in the Coventry daysaver (was due to go up from £4.00 to £4.20
on Dec 4th). However single fare increase has gone ahead, for instance I was charged £4.20 SINGLE from Nuneaton
bus station to Smorrall Lane (Bedworth) and £3.30 SINGLE George Eliot Hospital to Bedworth town Centre.
Would it not have been cheaper to have caught a NXCov service between Nuneaton and Bedworth?
Quote from: j789 on December 19, 2022, 08:17:34 PMWould it not have been cheaper to have caught a NXCov service between Nuneaton and Bedworth?
20 doesn't go to Smorrall Lane and it's quite the walk from the nearest 20 stop.
it is a bit of a slog particularly if loaded with bags of groceries otherwise I would. I wish NXC would give consideration to
extending route 16 from Keresley to/from Bedworth via Ash Green and Goodyers End Lane.
Quote from: sandboy20 on December 24, 2022, 02:13:12 PMit is a bit of a slog particularly if loaded with bags of groceries otherwise I would. I wish NXC would give consideration to
extending route 16 from Keresley to/from Bedworth via Ash Green and Goodyers End Lane.
Honestly that's what I thought they'd do and hope they do
Quote from: sandboy20 on December 24, 2022, 02:13:12 PMit is a bit of a slog particularly if loaded with bags of groceries otherwise I would. I wish NXC would give consideration to
extending route 16 from Keresley to/from Bedworth via Ash Green and Goodyers End Lane.
Thirty years ago the 3 (which then terminated in Holbrooks) was extended to Bedworth via Smorrall Lane. This was a time when there was alot of competition between West Midlands Travel and Midland Red South, and the extension came off in 1996 when competition by both operators reduced.
The TT for the rerouted 60 via Warks shopping park is now up - replaces part of NXC 3.
Cant see Dorchester way showing?
Still shows stop at Jaguar works.
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Nuneaton%20Timetables/Jan%202023/E60%20TT%20230103.pdf
The Coventry area map still shows the old route though.
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/ZoneMaps/Midlands/Nuneaton%20%26%20Coventry/Coventry%20MegaRider%20Map.pdf
The new 51, with just the help of one extra bus, could have been a Full Circle taking in something like the old 34 route from UHCW to Pool Meadow which along with the creation of further links could also offer balanced headway where it combines with NXC service 2, time to serve Everdon Road and reinstate an additional bus along the Binley Rd where the 86 has been reduced to hourly.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 28, 2022, 06:06:23 PMThe TT for the rerouted 60 via Warks shopping park is now up - replaces part of NXC 3.
Cant see Dorchester way showing?
Still shows stop at Jaguar works.
Stagecoach at Rugby have received three Enviros from Manchester, presumably in advance of their new work in South Birmingham. They are 36428,36482 and 36484. I don't know if more are expected.
All 3 are Euro 6, so looks like the first ones for these services
Comparing the new and old SC Coventry 60 TT's first bus of day.
Old TT between ASDA London Rd and Univ. Hospital allowed 23 mins.
New TT between same stops now going via Warks Shopping Park is 31 mins.
Does this affect PVR. Maybe some clever interworking instead?
QuoteStagecoach at Rugby have received three Enviros from Manchester, presumably in advance of their new work in South Birmingham. They are 36428,36482 and 36484. I don't know if more are expected.
Looking on Stagecoach's own tracker 36425; 36429; 36430; 36480; 36482; 36484 are all currently in Rugby garage. I can't see where 36428 currently is.
This batch at Manchester was 36424-30/80-5 (13 vehicles) So I suspect these are what will be running the services
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 28, 2022, 06:06:23 PMThe TT for the rerouted 60 via Warks shopping park is now up - replaces part of NXC 3.
Cant see Dorchester way showing?
Still shows stop at Jaguar works.
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Nuneaton%20Timetables/Jan%202023/E60%20TT%20230103.pdf
SC 60 replaces part of the NXC 3 route from tomorrow am.
When I looked this afternoon so far some of the bus stop flags and TT's have not yet been updated by TfWM.
Guess someone will be getting up very early tomorrow to get it sorted?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 02, 2023, 08:55:18 PMGuess someone will be getting up very early tomorrow to get it sorted?
I like you, you're funny 🤣
Rocky start for the Stagecoach routes in Coventry by the looks- 3/4 buses I have waited for haven't turned up! (1 on 7C, 2 on 51) You'd think TFWM check the operator who have been awarded the contract have enough buses/drivers to cover the route. Hopefully they can buck their ideas up and chuck on a horse drawn Stagecoach if worse comes to worse.
Quote from: stellasteve on January 03, 2023, 04:07:05 PMRocky start for the Stagecoach routes in Coventry by the looks- 3/4 buses I have waited for haven't turned up! (1 on 7C, 2 on 51) You'd think TFWM check the operator who have been awarded the contract have enough buses/drivers to cover the route. Hopefully they can buck their ideas up and chuck on a horse drawn Stagecoach if worse comes to worse.
Anyone know what stand the 51 gos from as TFWM say stand V with cv2 and 19 but the timetable says stand J
Regards the new 51 - which appears to be a mash-up of the old 1, 5 & 20C/31. Is this likely to be the full list of roads served?
Route 51 towards UHCW:Pool Meadow Bus Station, Hales Street, Trinity Street, Ironmonger Row, Burges, Corporation Street, Queen Victoria Road, Croft Road, The Butts, Albany Road, Earlsdon Street, Radcliffe Road, Rochester Road, Beechwood Avenue, Canley Road, Canley Rail Station, Dolomite Avenue, Broad Lane, Grayswood Avenue, Kingsbury Road, Forfield Road, Courtland Avenue, Westhill Road, Hollyfast Road, Norman Place Road, Wallace Road, Links Road, Jubilee Crescent, Catesby Road, Burnaby Road, Holbrooks Lane, Lythalls Lane, Foleshill Road, Longford Road, Arena Shopping Park, Longford Road, Oakmoor Road, Jackers Road, Aldermans Green Road, Lentons Lane, Shilton Lane, Ringwood Highway, Woodway Lane, Narberth Way, Wigston Road, Brade Drive, Boswell Drive, Hall Lane, Hinckley Road, Ansty Road, Clifford Bridge Road, Hospital Access Road, University Hospital.
Route 51 towards Pool Meadow:
University Hospital, Hospital Access Road, Ansty Road, Hinckley Road, Hall Lane, Boswell Drive, Brade Drive, Wigston Road, Narberth Way, Woodway Lane, Ringwood Highway, Shilton Lane, Lentons Lane, Aldermans Green Road, Jackers Road, Oakmoor Road, Longford Road, Arena Shopping Park, Longford Road, Foleshill Road, A444 roundabout, Lythalls Lane, Holbrook Lane, Burnaby Road, Catesby Road, Jubilee Crescent, Links Road, Wallace Road, Norman Place Road, Hollyfast Road, Westhill Road, Courtland Avenue, Forfield Road, Kingsbury Road, Grayswood Avenue, Glendower Avenue, Broad Lane, Dolomite Avenue, Canley Rail Station, Canley Road, Beechwood Avenue, Rochester Road, Radcliffe Road, Earlsdon Street, Albany Road, The Butts, Croft Road, Queen Victoria Road, Corporation Street, Hales Street, Fairfax Street, Priory Street, Pool Meadow Bus Station.
While mentioning the 51 (above) - is this the full road listing for the revised Stagecoach service 60 ? It would mean the 60 entering the Warwickshire Shopping Park and the grounds of UHCW in each direction, so passengers need to check the destination display!
Route 60 towards University of Warwick/Westwood Business Park:Tesco Arena Park, Longford Road, Foleshill Road, Old Church Road, Proffitt Avenue, Sewall Highway, Hipswell Highway, Belgrave Road, Clifford Bridge Road, Hospital Access Road, University Hospital, Clifford Bridge Road, Dorchester Way, Clifford Bridge Road, Brinklow Road, Skipworth Road, Kynner Way, Warwickshire Shopping Park, Kynner Way, Brandon Road, Willenhall Lane, Deerdale Way, Bredon Avenue, Quorn Way, Willenhall Lane, St. James' Lane, Remembrance Road, Robin Hood Road, St. James' Lane, London Road, Jaguar/Land Rover Whitley, Leaf Lane, B4110/A444, London Road, Daventry Road, William Bristow Road, Black Prince Avenue, The Chesils, Baginton Road, Leamington Road, Kenpas Highway, Fletchamstead Highway, Charter Avenue, Sir Henry Parkes Road, Lynchgate Road, De Montfort Way, Shultern Lane, Lynchgate Road, Kirby Corner Road, Gibbet Hill Road, University of Warwick Hub (or Westwood Way after Kirby Corner Road).
Route 60 towards Arena Park:
University of Warwick Hub then; Gibbet Hill Road (or Westwood Way) Kirby Corner Road, Lynchgate Road, De Montfort Way, Shultern Lane, Lynchgate Road, Sir Henry Parkes Road, Fletchamstead Highway, Kenpas Highway, Leamington Road, Baginton Road, The Chesils, Black Prince Avenue, William Bristow Road, Daventry Road, London Road, Jaguar/Land Rover Whitley, Leaf Lane, B4110/A444, London Road, St. James' Lane, Robin Hood Road, Remembrance Road, St Jame's Lane, Willenhall Lane, Quorn Way, Bredon Avenue, Deerdale Way, Willenhall Lane, Brandon Road, Kynner Way, Warwickshire Shopping Park, Kynner Way, Skipworth Road, Brinklow Road, Clifford Bridge Road, Dorchester Way, Clifford Bridge Road, University Hospital, Hospital Access Road, University Hospital, Hospital Access Road, Clifford Bridge Road, Belgrave Road, Hipswell Highway, Sewall Highway, Proffitt Avenue, Old Church Road, Foleshill Road, Longford Road, Tesco Arena Park.
There's a Stagecoach Enviro 200 broken down in Solihull Town Centre (36429). Looks abandoned.
Quote from: paulb1973 on January 03, 2023, 11:33:03 PMWhile mentioning the 51 (above) - is this the full road listing for the revised Stagecoach service 60 ? It would mean the 60 entering the Warwickshire Shopping Park and the grounds of UHCW in each direction, so passengers need to check the destination display!
Route 60 towards University of Warwick/Westwood Business Park:
Tesco Arena Park, Longford Road, Foleshill Road, Old Church Road, Proffitt Avenue, Sewall Highway, Hipswell Highway, Belgrave Road, Clifford Bridge Road, Hospital Access Road, University Hospital, Clifford Bridge Road, Dorchester Way, Clifford Bridge Road, Brinklow Road, Skipworth Road, Kynner Way, Warwickshire Shopping Park, Kynner Way, Brandon Road, Willenhall Lane, Deerdale Way, Bredon Avenue, Quorn Way, Willenhall Lane, St. James' Lane, Remembrance Road, Robin Hood Road, St. James' Lane, London Road, Jaguar/Land Rover Whitley, Leaf Lane, B4110/A444, London Road, Daventry Road, William Bristow Road, Black Prince Avenue, The Chesils, Baginton Road, Leamington Road, Kenpas Highway, Fletchamstead Highway, Charter Avenue, Sir Henry Parkes Road, Lynchgate Road, De Montfort Way, Shultern Lane, Lynchgate Road, Kirby Corner Road, Gibbet Hill Road, University of Warwick Hub (or Westwood Way after Kirby Corner Road).
Route 60 towards Arena Park:
University of Warwick Hub then; Gibbet Hill Road (or Westwood Way) Kirby Corner Road, Lynchgate Road, De Montfort Way, Shultern Lane, Lynchgate Road, Sir Henry Parkes Road, Fletchamstead Highway, Kenpas Highway, Leamington Road, Baginton Road, The Chesils, Black Prince Avenue, William Bristow Road, Daventry Road, London Road, Jaguar/Land Rover Whitley, Leaf Lane, B4110/A444, London Road, St. James' Lane, Robin Hood Road, Remembrance Road, St Jame's Lane, Willenhall Lane, Quorn Way, Bredon Avenue, Deerdale Way, Willenhall Lane, Brandon Road, Kynner Way, Warwickshire Shopping Park, Kynner Way, Skipworth Road, Brinklow Road, Clifford Bridge Road, Dorchester Way, Clifford Bridge Road, University Hospital, Hospital Access Road, University Hospital, Hospital Access Road, Clifford Bridge Road, Belgrave Road, Hipswell Highway, Sewall Highway, Proffitt Avenue, Old Church Road, Foleshill Road, Longford Road, Tesco Arena Park.
The flags & TT at the stops for the SC 60 where it replaced the NXC 3 section still have not been updated by this afternoon. Poor show by the TfWM commanders in Birmingham.
Will TfWM replace the flags with brand new ones or just blank out the '3' I wonder? Some flags have up to 8 routes on them so it would be a lot cheaper keeping the old flags and putting a sticker to cover up the '3'.
Also Skipworth Road does not have any actual bus stops as TfWM introduced the cost saving idea for the NXC 3 that you could stop the bus almost anywhere along that road to get on /off. Wonder if the SC 60 drivers know about this?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 04, 2023, 03:14:05 PMThe flags & TT at the stops for the SC 60 where it replaced the NXC 3 section still have not been updated by this afternoon. Poor show by the TfWM commanders in Birmingham.
Will TfWM replace the flags with brand new ones or just blank out the '3' I wonder? Some flags have up to 8 routes on them so it would be a lot cheaper keeping the old flags and putting a sticker to cover up the '3'.
Also Skipworth Road does not have any actual bus stops as TfWM introduced the cost saving idea for the NXC 3 that you could stop the bus almost anywhere along that road to get on /off. Wonder if the SC 60 drivers know about this?
There's quite a number of stops across the West Midlands with out of date information. I suspect the extended Christmas break meant staff were not at work as much as otherwise might have been the case. However where a new operator is on the service should have been priorities.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 04, 2023, 03:41:03 PMThere's quite a number of stops across the West Midlands with out of date information. I suspect the extended Christmas break meant staff were not at work as much as otherwise might have been the case. However where a new operator is on the service should have been priorities.
Should have been done when they was gaven the tender imo
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on January 04, 2023, 03:48:16 PMShould have been done when they was gaven the tender imo
A lot of the tenders were awarded with very short notice.
Quote from: Stu on January 04, 2023, 06:59:37 PMA lot of the tenders were awarded with very short notice.
which doesnt do anyone any good.
I put this down to poor planning by TfWM - wonder what they have to say about it all.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 04, 2023, 07:33:42 PMwhich doesnt do anyone any good.
I put this down to poor planning by TfWM - wonder what they have to say about it all.
I would agree, certainly the 1st of January was probably not a good date to have all these timetable/service changes come into effect, especially as the Christmas/New Year break would have meant that new timetable posters and stop flags couldn't have been printed and installed in time.
Quote from: Stu on January 04, 2023, 07:41:03 PMI would agree, certainly the 1st of January was probably not a good date to have all these timetable/service changes come into effect, especially as the Christmas/New Year break would have meant that new timetable posters and stop flags couldn't have been printed and installed in time.
I though they registered services about 19 December so could printed them before Christmas but would of been a rush job but would of been ready to put up on 2 Jan
Quote from: Solo1 on January 06, 2023, 08:20:20 AMI though they registered services about 19 December so could printed them before Christmas but would of been a rush job but would of been ready to put up on 2 Jan
I think it was the extended Christmas break which caused a problem too along with the large number of changes happening all at once.
The coventry 51 on bus times seems to be tracking as the 51 Northampton - Brackmills but showing both routes if this makes sense
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 06, 2023, 10:25:46 AMI think it was the extended Christmas break which caused a problem too along with the large number of changes happening all at once.
Update on the stop at Warwickshire Shopping Park this am.
Stop is privately owned by WSP and now serves both the NXC 3 and SC 60.
The very old style RTI is saying bus times are not currently available.
There are no TT's at all in the shelter.
Bus Times app only shows the NXC 3.
The OAP's havent got a clue what is going on.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 06, 2023, 10:25:46 AMI think it was the extended Christmas break which caused a problem too along with the large number of changes happening all at once.
True but would need a few people to put up the new timetables about 6 one do each side
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 06, 2023, 01:54:52 PMUpdate on the stop at Warwickshire Shopping Park this am.
Stop is privately owned by WSP and now serves both the NXC 3 and SC 60.
The very old style RTI is saying bus times are not currently available.
There are no TT's at all in the shelter.
Bus Times app only shows the NXC 3.
The OAP's havent got a clue what is going on.
It depends upon who's responsible for keeping the bus information correct. It may be TfWM under contract to the site owners or someone else. I would contact both TfWM and the site owners and point out the problem. At least then you would have done your best to alert whoever is responsible.
Quote from: Solo1 on January 06, 2023, 03:28:17 PMTrue but would need a few people to put up the new timetables about 6 one do each side
Again I think it's the unusual circumstances that are at least partly to blame. I also think it's the perception held by some that everyone is online and so updated information at stops isn't as urgent as previous.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 06, 2023, 05:46:01 PMAgain I think it's the unusual circumstances that are at least partly to blame. I also think it's the perception held by some that everyone is online and so updated information at stops isn't as urgent as previous.
I read they are printing them & sending them out the next day to put on the bus stops so about a week & might be alll done
Quote from: Solo1 on January 07, 2023, 09:26:35 AMI read they are printing them & sending them out the next day to put on the bus stops so about a week & might be alll done
Let's hope so. I also hope they sort out the errors on the new timetables such as wrong information on Diamond 96 mentioned on another thread.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 07, 2023, 09:33:59 AMLet's hope so. I also hope they sort out the errors on the new timetables such as wrong information on Diamond 96 mentioned on another thread.
I saw that if they know they can change it
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 07, 2023, 09:33:59 AMLet's hope so. I also hope they sort out the errors on the new timetables such as wrong information on Diamond 96 mentioned on another thread.
It took them nearly 2 months to get the 96 info out in the first place when the route changed the last time.
Some good news from Rugby SC Twit feed
as of now all rugby services are running,
thanks and have a good day
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 02, 2023, 08:55:18 PMSC 60 replaces part of the NXC 3 route from tomorrow am.
When I looked this afternoon so far some of the bus stop flags and TT's have not yet been updated by TfWM.
Guess someone will be getting up very early tomorrow to get it sorted?
Where the 60 replaces the NXC 3 in Coventry some stops have now got the new TT but the flags have not been changed yet. Seems a bit messy to me?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 06, 2022, 10:06:30 PMThe 86 Rugby - Cov timetable looks like its reduced to hourly from year end. Thats a big cut!
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-05/12/2022-10:04:24:141
https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/Midlands/Rugby%20Timetables/January%202023/R86%20TT%20230103.pdf
Service update shows more pain on the 86 for Binley Woods & Brandon passengers for 2 weeks.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-06/02/2023-10:06:15:894
Service 86 - Rugby Road - Binley Woods 06 Feb 2023
Due to a road closure on Rugby Road, Binley Woods from 13th February to 3rd March 2023 09:30 - 15:30, buses will be diverting and not able to serve Rugby Rd, Binley Woods & Brandon.
Please catch your bus from Morrisons and Avondale Rd
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 02, 2023, 11:00:43 AMWhere the 60 replaces the NXC 3 in Coventry some stops have now got the new TT but the flags have not been changed yet. Seems a bit messy to me?
I see the SC 60 route drivers are counting ang logging on the ticket machine the number of people who get OFF at each bus stop. Do any other buses do this in the West Mids?
In
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 10, 2023, 02:29:47 PMI see the SC 60 route drivers are counting ang logging on the ticket machine the number of people who get OFF at each bus stop. Do any other buses do this in the West Mids?
Could be to see how used it is and if any route charges need to happen
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 10, 2023, 02:29:47 PMI see the SC 60 route drivers are counting ang logging on the ticket machine the number of people who get OFF at each bus stop. Do any other buses do this in the West Mids?
All Stagecoach services record this automatically on the machine when a ticket is sold or pass scanned, drivers should then recored when passengers leave the vehicle.
Strange workings on the SC 60 in COV today. The SC TT (pdf download) clearly shows the 60 should be calling at WSP on a Sunday but it's not happening. They seem to be going direct from St James Lane past the Binley Pk Inn to the hospital?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on March 05, 2023, 12:52:36 PMStrange workings on the SC 60 in COV today. The SC TT (pdf download) clearly shows the 60 should be calling at WSP on a Sunday but it's not happening. They seem to be going direct from St James Lane past the Binley Pk Inn to the hospital?
Yes, did noticed on day one the Sunday journeys continued to operate the 'old' route, which makes sense as the NXC 3 didn't run on Sundays between WSP and UHCW previously, plus the Sunday 60 timetable is constrained for time so cannot afford to follow the longer 'new' route on Sundays.
As for the seemingly incorrect timetables, well that's up to the operator to get sorted as soon as possible, I have seen a complaint somewhere on social media so they should be aware.
Quote from: JPC on March 05, 2023, 03:24:32 PMYes, did noticed on day one the Sunday journeys continued to operate the 'old' route, which makes sense as the NXC 3 didn't run on Sundays between WSP and UHCW previously, plus the Sunday 60 timetable is constrained for time so cannot afford to follow the longer 'new' route on Sundays.
As for the seemingly incorrect timetables, well that's up to the operator to get sorted as soon as possible, I have seen a complaint somewhere on social media so they should be aware.
Thks for the info. Not calling at WSP on a Sunday is crazy as it is probably one of the busiest days of the week. All those lost fares.
Leamington MMC 11229 has been painted into the Stagecoach pride livery.
As noted in the link in the Arriva Leicester (https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=310333) thread, from Sunday 16 April, the 48L is going to be renumbered 148 and integrated with Arriva's 158 between Leicester and Nuneaton.
Quote from: ellspurs on March 08, 2023, 06:09:08 PMAs noted in the link in the Arriva Leicester (https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?msg=310333) thread, from Sunday 16 April, the 48L is going to be renumbered 148 and integrated with Arriva's 158 between Leicester and Nuneaton.
Wonder if the 48C to Nuneaton/ coventry will drop the C now that the 48L is the 148
Anyone know if theres any plans on debranding or changing the 48 branded buses now that part of it has been changed ro the 148
Some more Route changes on the Nuneaton depot network from 15th April.
55 (Nuneaton - Coventry) will be withdrawn and partly replaced between Bedworth & Coventry by the new 56B.
Route 48C along with the 48L will also be renumbered 148 every 10 minutes still between Nuneaton & Coventry but every 30 minutes the service will connect from Coventry to Leicester, like how the old 48 used to work before being split up in 2020.
48A believed to be unchanged number wise at the moment
Nuneaton depot will also be running a new service in Hinckley numbered the 11 between Hinckley Bus Station & Hollycroft Grange at a frequency of every 30 minutes.
Link to all of the Warwickshire changes from Stagecoach's website: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-10/03/2023-10:02:19:920
Nice to see another like to Leicester just hope they dont lose the gold mmcs
They'll lose them when they convert them to electric.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 09, 2023, 08:40:38 PMAnyone know if theres any plans on debranding or changing the 48 branded buses now that part of it has been changed ro the 148
A number of the gold e200mmcs have been repainted with no route branding so hopefully the others will be debranded ahead of the changes
Quote from: Joe on March 10, 2023, 10:15:20 PMSome more Route changes on the Nuneaton depot network from 15th April.
55 (Nuneaton - Coventry) will be withdrawn and partly replaced between Bedworth & Coventry by the new 56B.
Route 48C along with the 48L will also be renumbered 148 every 10 minutes still between Nuneaton & Coventry but every 30 minutes the service will connect from Coventry to Leicester, like how the old 48 used to work before being split up in 2020.
48A believed to be unchanged number wise at the moment
Nuneaton depot will also be running a new service in Hinckley numbered the 11 between Hinckley Bus Station & Hollycroft Grange at a frequency of every 30 minutes.
Link to all of the Warwickshire changes from Stagecoach's website: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-10/03/2023-10:02:19:920
Looking at that link, do 7 (evening/Sunday) journeys commence from Pool Meadow or Trinity Street?
I suppose the replacement of service 55 eliminates a duplication of that service number - NXC have a '55' too, admittedly only a Schools service.
Quote from: paulb1973 on March 12, 2023, 10:27:25 AMLooking at that link, do 7 (evening/Sunday) journeys commence from Pool Meadow or Trinity Street?
It says on that page:
"Service 7 between Coventry and Brownshill Green will depart from Bay G in Pool Meadow bus station."
Quote from: Stu on March 12, 2023, 10:34:35 AMIt says on that page:
"Service 7 between Coventry and Brownshill Green will depart from Bay G in Pool Meadow bus station."
Yes, sorry, I was getting the 7 & 20A mixed up! In-fact they duplicate the NXC routes.
Quote from: Joe on March 10, 2023, 10:15:20 PMSome more Route changes on the Nuneaton depot network from 15th April.
55 (Nuneaton - Coventry) will be withdrawn and partly replaced between Bedworth & Coventry by the new 56B.
Route 48C along with the 48L will also be renumbered 148 every 10 minutes still between Nuneaton & Coventry but every 30 minutes the service will connect from Coventry to Leicester, like how the old 48 used to work before being split up in 2020.
48A believed to be unchanged number wise at the moment
Nuneaton depot will also be running a new service in Hinckley numbered the 11 between Hinckley Bus Station & Hollycroft Grange at a frequency of every 30 minutes.
Link to all of the Warwickshire changes from Stagecoach's website: https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-10/03/2023-10:02:19:920
Service 56 will continue to run between Coventry and Nuneaton via Bedworth.
Will run 3 return journeys on service 20A Mon-Sat late evening.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on March 12, 2023, 06:41:58 PMService 56 will continue to run between Coventry and Nuneaton via Bedworth.
Will run 3 return journeys on service 20A Mon-Sat late evening.
Yes, the 56 will still run via Ash Green, Bedworth and Bulkington.
The 20A announcement is surprising - it's been running since 3 January. Also, it appears that the 7C will be renumbered 7 if the announcement and new timetable are accurate.
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on March 08, 2023, 08:47:20 PMWonder if the 48C to Nuneaton/ coventry will drop the C now that the 48L is the 148
Yes and no. The 148 that is going from Coventry to Nuneaton and not Leicester will be numbered 148C. Anything leaving Coventry to go to Leicester will be numbered the 148. Hopefully this clears it up a little
SC service update
Stagecoach services are not impacted by National Express strike action starting Monday 20th March.Our services will be running but maybe busier than normal, so please plan ahead.
General Coventry Updated 18 Mar 2023, 14:03
27221 has arrived at Nuneaton depot.
Quote from: jc on April 28, 2023, 12:54:09 PM27221 has arrived at Nuneaton depot.
Wonder why she's here and if any more E300s are due
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on April 28, 2023, 01:25:18 PMWonder why she's here and if any more E300s are due
Euro 6 as a guess
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on April 28, 2023, 01:25:18 PMWonder why she's here and if any more E300s are due
According to a tweet from Stephen Knight Media more of the batch will follow.
Quote from: Solo1 on April 30, 2023, 09:57:34 AMEuro 6 as a guess
Thought Coventry wanted 100% elec buses not diesel ones?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on April 30, 2023, 03:55:30 PMThought Coventry wanted 100% elec buses not diesel ones?
We do by 2025 makes you wonder if there going to play the we are based in Warwickshire so don't have to comply card
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on April 30, 2023, 04:15:42 PMWe do by 2025 makes you wonder if there going to play the we are based in Warwickshire so don't have to comply card
Unless I'm mistaken they cannot do this as all local bus services running in and into Coventry will have to be electric.
I think the real question at present is: why Enviro 300s? Are larger buses required somewhere, or are some Gold Enviro 200s moving?
Quote from: Justin Tyme on April 30, 2023, 04:49:18 PMUnless I'm mistaken they cannot do this as all local bus services running in and into Coventry will have to be electric.
I think the real question at present is: why Enviro 300s? Are larger buses required somewhere, or are some Gold Enviro 200s moving?
As Stated, not until 2025, but unless you get an exemption from TfWM all vehicles do need to be euro 6 from 24th May 2023.
27219 arrived at Nuneaton today
https://www.facebook.com/groups/TheSCGroup/permalink/1516871922054577/
That now makes 27215, 27219, 27221 and 27222 all present at Nuneaton
27223 now in service at Nuneaton. Seen it yesterday in Coventry on the 148.
Are complaints not followed up at stagecoach anymore?
noticed 18471 on the U1, interesting as it's an open top bus!
Quote from: Danthebusman on June 21, 2023, 08:48:43 PMnoticed 18471 on the U1, interesting as it's an open top bus!
Did you actually see this? Or just 'BusTimes' see it? Looking on Bus Times, the vehicle was dual tracking, so I would assume its a machine swap
Quote from: jc on June 24, 2023, 09:22:11 PMDid you actually see this? Or just 'BusTimes' see it? Looking on Bus Times, the vehicle was dual tracking, so I would assume its a machine swap
Are the open toppers not based out of the Stratford upon Avon out station
Just seen this
PD0000479/323
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LIMITED, UNIT 7-8. MINTON BUSINESS
CENTRE, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Operating between Leamington and Warwick given service number 17B / 15 effective from 01 September 2023.
Wonder if there's more changes due
QuoteJust seen this
PD0000479/323
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LIMITED, UNIT 7-8. MINTON BUSINESS
CENTRE, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Operating between Leamington and Warwick given service number 17B / 15 effective from 01 September 2023.
Wonder if there's more changes due
From the N&Ps
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on June 26, 2023, 05:58:06 PMJust seen this
PD0000479/323
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LIMITED, UNIT 7-8. MINTON BUSINESS
CENTRE, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
Operating between Leamington and Warwick given service number 17B / 15 effective from 01 September 2023.
Wonder if there's more changes due
The 15 has been registered as two services (Leamington - Warwick and Warwick - Stratford) since it started. When the X17 from Coventry ran beyond Warwick through to Stratford over what is now the 15 route, it was registered in two parts (split at Warwick) and this split was surprisingly carried over to the 15. The current timetable is split at Warwick and buses change destination displays at Warwick in both direction.
This is finally being put right from 2 September, with the above registration and PD0000479/315 Warwick - Stratford (given service number LX17B / 15) being replaced by this new registration: -
Section 3.1 – Registration of New ServicesPD0000479/402
MIDLAND RED (SOUTH) LIMITED, UNIT 7-8, MINTON BUSINESS CENTRE, MAIN ROAD, FAR COTTON, NORTHAMPTON, NN4 8ES
From: Leamington
To: Stratford Upon Avon
Via:
Name or No.: L15 / 15
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 02 September 2023
Other details: Operates Mon - Sat hourly , 2 hourly on a sunday
The B4102 going over the m42 has been reopened for a few weeks now. I don't know if there's any plans to revert the route of the 82 to going directly down this road as before (when Johnsons were running it as the x20). The diversion had the added benefit of providing Eastcote with a regular bus route for the first time in a while. I'm not sure of any passenger numbers coming from there, as I don't recall there being any displayed bus stops when I last went down there.
Quote from: ellspurs on July 20, 2023, 04:56:11 PMThe B4102 going over the m42 has been reopened for a few weeks now. I don't know if there's any plans to revert the route of the 82 to going directly down this road as before (when Johnsons were running it as the x20). The diversion had the added benefit of providing Eastcote with a regular bus route for the first time in a while. I'm not sure of any passenger numbers coming from there, as I don't recall there being any displayed bus stops when I last went down there.
Traveline has a new 82 timetable dated 2nd September which seems to show it reverting to original route along the B4102.
Quote from: JPC on July 20, 2023, 06:20:28 PMTraveline has a new 82 timetable dated 2nd September which seems to show it reverting to original route along the B4102.
At about 11:56 (just before Jeremey Vine came on radio 2) a Stagecoach drove over the new bridge as I was going under it. I've had a look at bustimes but none of the tracked routes have gone over the bridge, so I guess it was an OOS bus.
Also, the tracking shows the buses leaving Nuneaton garage. Were they always from Nuneaton or did they start at Leamington garage?
Quote from: ellspurs on July 24, 2023, 03:22:56 PMAt about 11:56 (just before Jeremey Vine came on radio 2) a Stagecoach drove over the new bridge as I was going under it. I've had a look at bustimes but none of the tracked routes have gone over the bridge, so I guess it was an OOS bus.
Also, the tracking shows the buses leaving Nuneaton garage. Were they always from Nuneaton or did they start at Leamington garage?
Always thought the 82 was Nuneaton operated
Quote from: ellspurs on July 24, 2023, 03:22:56 PMAt about 11:56 (just before Jeremey Vine came on radio 2) a Stagecoach drove over the new bridge as I was going under it. I've had a look at bustimes but none of the tracked routes have gone over the bridge, so I guess it was an OOS bus.
Also, the tracking shows the buses leaving Nuneaton garage. Were they always from Nuneaton or did they start at Leamington garage?
This would have been 36154, running dead as a driver shuttle to Nuneaton depot. Bustimes has it passing the bridge at 11:56
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/scnh-36154?date=2023-07-24#journeys/455122054
You're both right!
The 82 along with the 87 and 88 have been operated by Nuneaton garage since the Stagecoach tender started.
According to bustimes 36154 of Nuneaton garage has run to and fro between Nuneaton and Solihull via the B4102 today, and on one of its journeys towards Nuneaton crossed over the M42 at 1156. Might it have been doing driver changeovers, I wonder?
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/local-news/stagecoach-drivers-warwickshire-set-vote-27419835
Unite seems to want to initiate more strikes?
Quote from: ellspurs on July 29, 2023, 09:19:07 PMhttps://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/local-news/stagecoach-drivers-warwickshire-set-vote-27419835
Unite seems to want to initiate more strikes?
It seems she's trying the same line as she did with nx 😂
X20 missing out Hockey Heath due to house fire on Stratford Road. Using M40/M42 instead.
Looks like Leamington will be the next depot to receive the 272** Enviro 300's from Scotland, with 27214 and 27215 being seen at the depot today (27214 being on the 77's earlier).
37046 and 37047 have transferred to Kettering.
Looks like the u2 will be cancelled from the 23rd of September
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1177812/np_2617_11_August_2023.pdf
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 13, 2023, 10:00:51 PMLooks like the u2 will be cancelled from the 23rd of September
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1177812/np_2617_11_August_2023.pdf
Section 3.3 of the same issue of N&P indicates that registration PD0000479/337, which currently is for the U1, will also include the U2 from 23 September.
I see that stagecoach will be on strike from the Tuesday, September 5 let's hope it's just a temporary thing and that it won't last to long
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on August 17, 2023, 12:57:22 PMI see that stagecoach will be on strike from the Tuesday, September 5 let's hope it's just a temporary thing and that it won't last to long
The offer that has been offered was 7.8% for the first year and 4.5% plus a £100 bonus for the second.
Negotiations are apparently continuing so let's hope an agreement can be reached quickly.
Quote from: ellspurs on July 20, 2023, 04:56:11 PMThe B4102 going over the m42 has been reopened for a few weeks now. I don't know if there's any plans to revert the route of the 82 to going directly down this road as before (when Johnsons were running it as the x20). The diversion had the added benefit of providing Eastcote with a regular bus route for the first time in a while. I'm not sure of any passenger numbers coming from there, as I don't recall there being any displayed bus stops when I last went down there.
From Saturday 2nd September, it looks like the 82 reverts back to the old route direct along the B4102, no longer serving Eastcote. It would seem that this temporary diversion didn't attract much interest or demand from residents in Eastcote, otherwise TfWM may have considered making this routing permanent.
On the plus side, it looks like this change means the 82 will be able to call at Parkhill Drive again, as that stop is now added back to the timetable.
Quote from: Stu on August 20, 2023, 07:25:57 PMFrom Saturday 2nd September, it looks like the 82 reverts back to the old route direct along the B4102, no longer serving Eastcote. It would seem that this temporary diversion didn't attract much interest or demand from residents in Eastcote, otherwise TfWM may have considered making this routing permanent.
On the plus side, it looks like this change means the 82 will be able to call at Parkhill Drive again, as that stop is now added back to the timetable.
Pity it wasn't changed to run both ways along Pickford Green Lane and Upper Eastern Green Lane to Parkhill Drive, would have been good timing offsetting the recently reduced frequency along part of the NXC 14 route generating more links/passengers, that said the new NXC 41 could soon be going this way plus there may be an ultimate plan for the 82 (and X1) to serve the proposed new housing estates.
Quote from: Stu on August 20, 2023, 07:25:57 PMFrom Saturday 2nd September, it looks like the 82 reverts back to the old route direct along the B4102, no longer serving Eastcote. It would seem that this temporary diversion didn't attract much interest or demand from residents in Eastcote, otherwise TfWM may have considered making this routing permanent.
On the plus side, it looks like this change means the 82 will be able to call at Parkhill Drive again, as that stop is now added back to the timetable.
Interesting. Stagecoach have announced a timetable change but not the route changes (which I see are on the TfWM online timetable). No bus stops have been installed at Eastcote so it is not surprising that the 82 - and the X20 before it - have not been successful there.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on August 20, 2023, 08:46:25 PMInteresting. Stagecoach have announced a timetable change but not the route changes (which I see are on the TfWM online timetable). No bus stops have been installed at Eastcote so it is not surprising that the 82 - and the X20 before it - have not been successful there.
I have since been informed that the 82 won't be changing route, and that the details shown on TfWM website are incorrect.
Quote from: JPC on August 20, 2023, 08:35:10 PMPity it wasn't changed to run both ways along Pickford Green Lane and Upper Eastern Green Lane to Parkhill Drive, would have been good timing offsetting the recently reduced frequency along part of the NXC 14 route generating more links/passengers, that said the new NXC 41 could soon be going this way plus there may be an ultimate plan for the 82 (and X1) to serve the proposed new housing estates.
The residents of Pickford Green Lane have been quite vocal about how "dangerous" the road is for large vehicles, so I don't think they'll be too happy about that.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on August 20, 2023, 08:46:25 PMInteresting. Stagecoach have announced a timetable change but not the route changes (which I see are on the TfWM online timetable). No bus stops have been installed at Eastcote so it is not surprising that the 82 - and the X20 before it - have not been successful there.
TfWM being awesome again!
Just seen a post that Nuneaton will be getting 3 E400 mmcs from Northampton for use on the 60 during school times
TfWM says there is an amendment to the 703 service which is part of the '60 contract' ...
QuoteService 703 : From 3rd September 2023, during school days one morning and one afternoon journey will operate to/from Sewall Highway via Courthouse Green and Foleshill.
There are minor timetable changes and peak journeys will no longer serve Cross Point Business Park. It is recommended that passengers alight at Wigston Road, where interchange is available onto National Express Coventry service 8 or make the short walk to Cross Point.
Timetables for the upcoming strikes have been published
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-31/08/2023-11:20:50:391# (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-31/08/2023-11:20:50:391#)
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on September 01, 2023, 02:59:25 PMTimetables for the upcoming strikes have been published
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-31/08/2023-11:20:50:391# (https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle?SituationId=ID-31/08/2023-11:20:50:391#)
There is still a few days so maybe stagecoach can come back with a new offer. I guess judging by national express getting 16 percent pay rise they want something In the region of that.
Still providing (or at least hoping to!) a decent service on many routes in the daytime, obviously must have a fair few non-union drivers there.
Just seen a post on twitter that the strikes have been called off
The new offer has been accepted by drivers no more strikes.
https://www.unitetheunion.org/news-events/news/2023/september/stagecoach-warwickshire-bus-strikes-off-after-unite-pay-win/
Nuneaton Now have 3 E400 MMCs 10729 10731 10733
I haven't travelled on the 82 Coventry - Solihull this month to check yet, but bustimes shows that it has been serving Parkhill Estate and no longer deviating via Eastcote since 3rd September.
I used the 82 last week and it no longer deviates through Eastcote and does call at Parkhill Estate.
Does anyone know what has happened to KX55 TLZ and why PX04 DOJ has transferred in to replace it?
Quote from: MX05WHR-Enjoyer on September 25, 2023, 04:19:02 PMDoes anyone know what has happened to KX55 TLZ and why PX04 DOJ has transferred in to replace it?
According to someone on BusTimes, it has been withdrawn because of an engine problem.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/scnh-18399/history
QuoteAccording to someone on BusTimes, it has been withdrawn because of an engine problem.
https://bustimes.org/vehicles/scnh-18399/history
Thank you, forgot to check there.
Quote from: MX05WHR-Enjoyer on September 25, 2023, 04:19:02 PMDoes anyone know what has happened to KX55 TLZ and why PX04 DOJ has transferred in to replace it?
@MX05WHR-Enjoyer 18127 has also transferred in from Northampton along with 18149.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on March 05, 2023, 03:45:26 PMThks for the info. Not calling at WSP on a Sunday is crazy as it is probably one of the busiest days of the week. All those lost fares.
60 – University of Warwick to Arena Retail Park via University HospitalTfWM upcoming service changesFrom 29 October 2023, this Stagecoach service will operate with some minor changes:Jaguar Land Rover will be served at peak* times only. West Midlands Bus on Demand is available to customers who wish to travel at other times of the day.On Sundays will run from Stivichall to Arena Retail Park only, but will divert to serve Warwickshire Shopping ParkThe updated timetable will be linked here once available. *'Peak' is generally 7am-9am and 4pm-6pm
36944 out in service for the first time today after returning from repaint. On the 664/665 today.
New 60 timetable is now on Traveline (https://nationaljourneyplanner.travelinesw.com/swe-ttb/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?deleteAssignedStops_ttb=1&command=direct&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&type_ttb=any&language=en&sessionID=0&requestID=0&itdLPxx_template=tableResults&coordOutputFormat=WGS84%5Bdd.ddddd%5D&outputFormat=0&std3_commonMacro=ttb&std3_contractorMacro=&line=cen%3A39060%3A%20%3AH%3Ay11%3A7) and TfWM (https://legacy.wmnetwork.co.uk/plan-your-journey/find-a-timetable/#/route/cen_39060_%20_H_y11_7-7), but is showing JLR Whitley still being served the same as current, all I see changed Mon-Fri is one journey runs 5 mins later.
Sundays is amended as per below, will terminate at Leamington Road (A45 roundabout).
I suppose looking back to January and the erroneous Sunday timings for Warks Shopping Park it might be best to wait for the day to arrive to learn what happens and see who is spouting porkies!? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Sandy Lane on October 04, 2023, 09:36:38 PM60 – University of Warwick to Arena Retail Park via University Hospital
TfWM upcoming service changes
From 29 October 2023, this Stagecoach service will operate with some minor changes:
Jaguar Land Rover will be served at peak* times only. West Midlands Bus on Demand is available to customers who wish to travel at other times of the day.
On Sundays will run from Stivichall to Arena Retail Park only, but will divert to serve Warwickshire Shopping Park
The updated timetable will be linked here once available.
*'Peak' is generally 7am-9am and 4pm-6pm
Does anyone know what the E400 double deckers at Rugby Garage are there for? visible from platform 1 of the train station. And which ones are there?
A lot of Rugby routes seem to be restricted to single deck operation because of the low bridge by the railway station and also on the Solihull A9 at Olton.
Can't be much there that these could be used on?
If there
Quote from: 2206 on October 23, 2023, 06:37:31 PMDoes anyone know what the E400 double deckers at Rugby Garage are there for? visible from platform 1 of the train station. And which ones are there?
A lot of Rugby routes seem to be restricted to single deck operation because of the low bridge by the railway station and also on the Solihull A9 at Olton.
Can't be much there that these could be used on?
There 2 damaged mmcs parked there they could be them
36949 and 36215 are out on rail replacement between Rugby and Northampton.
10542, 11666, 15939 and 15845 are on rail replacement between Northampton and Milton Keynes Central.
I saw a Stagecoach decker in Nuneaton yesterday on the ring road (and possibly another one at the Arena shopping park).
The Nuneaton one was on the route I see the most around there, 000 Not In Service.
I guess they'll be seen more often but I haven't seen a Stagecoach decker in Nuneaton for years.
Quote from: ellspurs on November 21, 2023, 07:41:45 PMI saw a Stagecoach decker in Nuneaton yesterday on the ring road (and possibly another one at the Arena shopping park).
The Nuneaton one was on the route I see the most around there, 000 Not In Service.
I guess they'll be seen more often but I haven't seen a Stagecoach decker in Nuneaton for years.
I believe there's 3 now based there for the 60/ 703 routes with more rumoured to be due for the 148
Quote from: Coventrybususer95 on November 21, 2023, 07:46:39 PMI believe there's 3 now based there for the 60/ 703 routes with more rumoured to be due for the 148
Shouldn't Stagecoach be investing in electric buses for use in Coventry?
Quote from: Stu on November 21, 2023, 08:07:45 PMShouldn't Stagecoach be investing in electric buses for use in Coventry?
These are probably cascades from elsewhere i'd guess. Maybe Northampton depot.
Notice Stagecoach Midlands new 73 plate diesel vehicles running out of Northampton Garage.
According to Bustimes 10729, 10731 and 10733 have all transferred from Northampton to Nuneaton and all have been used most days on 60 and 703 routes.
Dave
Two duties on the 60 and 703 were converted to double deck in September, at the request of TfWM, in order to cope with heavy schooltime loads. This is when 10729, 10731 and 10733 were transferred to Nuneaton garage - the first DDs there for several years.
According to the Leicester Buses website (https://www.leicesterbuses.co.uk/electri (https://www.leicesterbuses.co.uk/electric)c) Stagecoach are expected to convert the 148 Coventry - Nuneaton - Leicester to electric buses in July/August 2024.
Anyone else noticed that the Stagecoach website doesn't put out many service updates these days?
For Coventry last update looks like Motorfest in May 23?
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/regional-service-updates/midlands/coventry
I would have expected to see their Xmas service info up online by now?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on December 05, 2023, 09:06:36 PMAnyone else noticed that the Stagecoach website doesn't put out many service updates these days?
For Coventry last update looks like Motorfest in May 23?
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/regional-service-updates/midlands/coventry
I would have expected to see their Xmas service info up online by now?
Yes, I have noticed this for Coventry. I suspect this is due to an error.
If you change the location to another town - such as Warwick - up-to-date updates appear, including Christmas services (the Birmingham services appear under Rugby - I know that garage operates them, but ...!).
Unfortunately, the only way of catching every update in Warwickshire is to change the town regularly between Warwick, Stratford, Nuneaton, Rugby and Coventry, as they often each have separate updates.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on December 05, 2023, 09:59:39 PMYes, I have noticed this for Coventry. I suspect this is due to an error.
If you change the location to another town - such as Warwick - up-to-date updates appear, including Christmas services (the Birmingham services appear under Rugby - I know that garage operates them, but ...!).
Unfortunately, the only way of catching every update in Warwickshire is to change the town regularly between Warwick, Stratford, Nuneaton, Rugby and Coventry, as they often each have separate updates.
Thanks for the info.
QuoteYes, I have noticed this for Coventry. I suspect this is due to an error.
If you change the location to another town - such as Warwick - up-to-date updates appear, including Christmas services (the Birmingham services appear under Rugby - I know that garage operates them, but ...!).
Unfortunately, the only way of catching every update in Warwickshire is to change the town regularly between Warwick, Stratford, Nuneaton, Rugby and Coventry, as they often each have separate updates.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/regional-service-updates/midlands has the service updates for the whole of the Midlands (Warks and the former United Counties bits that joined Midlands) for Stagecoach
Note that it is stated that Birmingham routes 41 and 46 MAY run on Boxing Day. (Listed under Rugby service exceptions)
Quote from: Rachvince53 on December 06, 2023, 08:51:26 AMNote that it is stated that Birmingham routes 41 and 46 MAY run on Boxing Day. (Listed under Rugby service exceptions)
Bustimes shows that the 41 and 46 actually did operate on Boxing Day.
Just noticed that some of the 27*** have rear displays screens seems to show the destination of the bus
Does anyone know what has happened to KX10 KSY. Hasn't ran in ages, and is the only scania i need at warwickshire to have ridden every one.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on December 27, 2023, 10:47:34 AMBustimes shows that the 41 and 46 actually did operate on Boxing Day
That's interesting. When I had a look on Saturday, BusTimes wasn't showing a timetable for either route. But TfWM's timetables did.
So I asked the question of Stagecoach Midlands on Twitter:
https://x.com/StagecoachMids/status/1738525913220817045
I bet hardly anyone used these services, if nobody actually knew they were running!
Looking at the service update article
It states that there was no service on 26th but if you scan down to the Rugby section you find
"Tuesday 26th December - Possible Birmingham routes 41 Saturday service and 46 Sunday service"
Wow talk about being vague!!
Coventry services 60 and 703 has ran to MF timetable today (and this week?) despite all the channels claiming 'Saturday level of service'.
It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact the MF timings for the 60 are completely different to Sats (including between the peaks) and the 703 doesn't have 'Saturday' service.
Oh dear oh dear, as the Chuckle Brothers used to say. I'm tempted to send Stagecoach a tweet about this.
There's one further error to come, as the Stagecoach notice advises "Birmingham routes 46 and 49 operating a normal Sunday timetable" on 1st January. I presume "49" should be "A9", which runs on Sundays.
MX56 FTZ May have a serious issue as one of the drivers took it out for the 5:35 28 to evesham, and drove it straight back to the garage and took out another bus. This may be for another reason though, if i am incorrect.
SC have an application to amend the 86 timetable from 06 January 2024. Also talks about a service number R86? What is the R86 route? Anyone have any info?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on January 02, 2024, 10:55:52 PMSC have an application to amend the 86 timetable from 06 January 2024. Also talks about a service number R86? What is the R86 route? Anyone have any info?
Won't R86 just be Stagecoach code for Rugby garage's 86?
Quote from: ellspurs on January 03, 2024, 03:37:30 PMWon't R86 just be Stagecoach code for Rugby garage's 86?
Thks. It could be just that. Never spotted it before.
Most (although not all) Stagecoach Midlands services appearing in Notices and Processings show a depot letter in front of the service number. LX17 can be a bit confusing...
Presumably LX is used to distinguish it from another garage within Stagecoach Midlands?
LX17 is for the X17, which is run by (L) Leamington depot.
For most services, L=Leamington, N=Nuneaton and R=Rugby. However, a few Nuneaton services (including the TfWM contracts) are E, and some services have no prefix letter at all.
No doubt there is a reason but I don't know what it is - must be for Stagecoach Midlands internal use.
Those 15 plate e300s are proper slow. Nice enough vehicles to ride on
Quote from: Justin Tyme on January 04, 2024, 08:25:01 PMLX17 is for the X17, which is run by (L) Leamington depot.
For most services, L=Leamington, N=Nuneaton and R=Rugby. However, a few Nuneaton services (including the TfWM contracts) are E, and some services have no prefix letter at all.
No doubt there is a reason but I don't know what it is - must be for Stagecoach Midlands internal use.
Thanks.
Some interesting information regarding stagecoaches ZEBRA2 funding seems that Coventry could be electric by the end of 2025
https://x.com/skmpub/status/1749422285897748680?s=46
Does anybody know what vehicle ran the following:
15:20 AS1 Parish Church
16:45 U1 Warwick Gates
19:55 X19 Stratford
Bustimes shows an open top running them, which i doubt especially for AS1 :).
Wasn't sure where to post this so started a new thread. Hope this is OK?
SC 60 operates only across Coventry.
Interesting situation tomorrow morning as part of the SC 60 route is blocked for about 2 weeks at Willenhall Lane.
I've not found it mentioned in their Service Updates so do they know about it?
First bus tomorrow should reach there at about 0630. Will watch to see what happens.
Wonder what the detour will be to continue to serve both Willenhall shops and WSP - A46 bypass maybe?
Well done to NXC who have already reported their solution for the 13 service.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 11, 2024, 06:57:41 PMWasn't sure where to post this so started a new thread. Hope this is OK?
SC 60 operates only across Coventry.
Interesting situation tomorrow morning as part of the SC 60 route is blocked for about 2 weeks at Willenhall Lane.
I've not found it mentioned in their Service Updates so do they know about it?
First bus tomorrow should reach there at about 0630. Will watch to see what happens.
Wonder what the detour will be to continue to serve both Willenhall shops and WSP - A46 bypass maybe?
Well done to NXC who have already reported their solution for the 13 service.
It'll most likely just be Langbank Avenue and Allard Way with passengers in or out of Willenhall probably advised to interchange at Whitley Asda to/from service 21.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 11, 2024, 06:57:41 PMWasn't sure where to post this so started a new thread. Hope this is OK?
There is a long-standing existing thread for 'Stagecoach in Warwickshire' which is also relevant to Coventry, no need to start a new one.
For clarity, I will rename this topic.
Quote from: JPC on February 11, 2024, 07:31:49 PMIt'll most likely just be Langbank Avenue and Allard Way with passengers in or out of Willenhall probably advised to interchange at Whitley Asda to/from service 21.
Looks like you are quite right watching this morning
Willenhall could still be served if the SC 60 did a short hop along the A46 instead of using Allard Way.
Nothing found so far about the diversion on the SC web service updates page.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on November 22, 2023, 09:25:51 PMTwo duties on the 60 and 703 were converted to double deck in September, at the request of TfWM, in order to cope with heavy schooltime loads. This is when 10729, 10731 and 10733 were transferred to Nuneaton garage - the first DDs there for several years.
Coventry City Council funding cuts being reported including removal of the expanded capacity on a school's bus route 60.
https://edemocracy.coventry.gov.uk/mgEPetitionDisplay.aspx?ID=477&RPID=24153991&HPID=24153991
Do they mean the deckers on the SC 60 route? If so they didn't last for long.
Quote from: Sandy Lane on February 11, 2024, 06:57:41 PMWasn't sure where to post this so started a new thread. Hope this is OK?
SC 60 operates only across Coventry.
Interesting situation tomorrow morning as part of the SC 60 route is blocked for about 2 weeks at Willenhall Lane.
I've not found it mentioned in their Service Updates so do they know about it?
First bus tomorrow should reach there at about 0630. Will watch to see what happens.
Wonder what the detour will be to continue to serve both Willenhall shops and WSP - A46 bypass maybe?
Well done to NXC who have already reported their solution for the 13 service.
SC appear to have just announced
today the SC 60 is indeed diverted due to the above roadworks at Willenhall Lane. Noted the diversion has been in place since 12 February and ends this week. Better late than never I suppose?
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-updates/serviceupdatesarticle
The web item is dated 21 February.
Earlier this week even some of the drivers weren't sure if the diversion was still in place so appears that SC traffic planners missed this one.
Following on from Stu's post in the SC Birmingham thread. It is worth showing some of the detail in the Warks thread.
The Department for Transport (DfT) announced today (Friday 21 March 2024) that it would be awarding Warwickshire County Council £4.3 million from its Zero Emission Bus Regional Areas 2 (ZEBRA 2) funding stream to aid with the rollout of electric vehicles in the County.
The funding will see the Council working with key delivery partner, Stagecoach Midlands and Warwick District Council to roll out 27 all electric buses that will serve routes and settlements across Warwickshire.
Thanks to this important funding, the following services will operate electric vehicles:
1 – Warwick Town Centre - Woodloes Park -, Spinney Hill - Leamington Town Centre – Whitnash - South Farm.
4 – Brownsover - Elliotts Field Retail Park - Rugby Rail Station - Rugby Town Centre - Bilton - Admirals Estate - Cawston Grange.
5/5A – Nuneaton Town Centre - Chapel End - Camp Hill - Nuneaton Town Centre.
9 – Nuneaton Town Centre – Stockingford – Nuneaton Town Centre.
10 – Nuneaton Town Centre – Stockingford – Grove Farm.
48A – Nuneaton - Hartshill - Mancetter - Atherstone (extending to Grendon - Dordon - Polesworth - Tamworth on Sundays and Bank Holidays only).
In addition, on Sundays when the Peak Vehicle Requirement (PVR) is reduced on other routes, Stagecoach Midlands have identified Service 77/78 (serving rural settlements in the Stratford-upon-Avon District via Kineton) on which all-electric buses can be used.
According to TfWM upcoming bus service changes the Coventry SC 60 will no longer call at the Jaguar plant from 06 April.
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/upcoming-bus-service-changes/
It's is good to see TfWM covering Coventry changes although so far not found this mentioned on the SC service changes site?
Quote from: Sandy Lane on March 29, 2024, 10:59:55 AMAccording to TfWM upcoming bus service changes the Coventry SC 60 will no longer call at the Jaguar plant from 06 April.
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/plan-your-journey/ways-to-travel/buses-in-the-west-midlands/upcoming-bus-service-changes/
It's is good to see TfWM covering Coventry changes although so far not found this mentioned on the SC service changes site?
New timetable on Traveline (https://nationaljourneyplanner.travelinesw.com/swe-ttb/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?deleteAssignedStops_ttb=1&command=direct&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&type_ttb=any&language=en&sessionID=0&requestID=0&itdLPxx_template=tableResults&coordOutputFormat=WGS84%5Bdd.ddddd%5D&outputFormat=0&std3_commonMacro=ttb&std3_contractorMacro=&line=cen%3A39060%3A%20%3AH%3Ay11%3A2) is showing some journeys will continue to serve Jaguar Whitley around the employee shifts, 12 trips on Mon-Fri, 5 on a Saturday - TfWM purported this was going to happen last October!
Update on funding for the late night X18 Stratford - Coventry in the local paper
https://coventryobserver.co.uk/news/coventry-news-a-bus-between-stratford-and-coventry-will-continue-thanks-to-council-funding/
My summary of the article:
A good news story.
Seems to refer to the 10.30 pm service out of Stratford (Bridge St) on Thurs, Fri & Sats only.
The initial trial was funded by the RSC theatre up to March 2024 and seen as successful. To continue and now is funded by Warks Council.
If there is there is new thinking at Warks Council I wonder if there could also be demand to re introduce the last 86 service from Coventry to Rugby. Used to depart around 10pm?