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Is Walsall garage having the next stop announcements updated for X51?

Isn't that what happened pre 26 October 1986?                                                         

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Because as @Tony has said a fair few times now outside Nbus area you can't buy it and Cannock isn't within the Nbus zone now it may of been before but it isn't now meaning it's the daysaver Extra which is issues in this area.

Is it usable only on NX buses? 

What's with all this about?

NXWM accept Nbus on all their services as has been said on here several time. It not up to driver

I used to be able to buy an Nbus onX51 in Cannock at least a few months ago but if you ask for one nowits the daysave extra that comes out the ticket machine

The problem with Franchising is a lot of local services currently run would also be withdrawn, what the Labour bloke hasn't factored in is the fact and I'll use Walsall as Midlands Today were there when the they reported on this is Roadworks and the fact all it takes is one motorway M6 or M5 to be screwed and all the A Roads become congested. I often wonder what people who moan expect the bus to do fly. Walsall alone the 529 which was mentioned for years has had J10 works these cause delays, this would also affect the 41 down Bloxwhich Lane. If the M6 at either J10, J9 or J8/7 is screwed this causes the A34, A454, A463, A461, A462, A4444, A4038 and countless other roads delays hence delaying the X51, 51, 34, 37, 39, 11, 11A, 529, 41 as traffic looks to Divert from the M6 along the A34 onto to say the A454 to get down to J9 or J10 this also delays the 79 in Darlaston. Then City Services are delayed by Metro Works.

As someone who has used mostly NX buses for the last 3 or 4 years they are more reliable than the Thandi 37 which ran every 20 minutes but disappeared often on Fridays. Other factors are the Tram when it was down it put more cars on the road and more people on the 79/74 the 79 would often start to get busy normally between Darlaston and Wolverhampton, it was often almost full by the time it reached Darlaston. The M5 and M6 cause West Brom buses to be delayed notably the 74. The 37 is being run by NX of Evening on tender and Commercially I believe during the day to cover for Thandi, NX only ran it between Darlaston and Willenhall. Under a franchise this and routes like the 310 and 65 could be scrapped.

The biggest issue is Councils and MP's almost destroying the bus services, the removal of the A34 flyover makes the X51 10 minutes longer and at Peak times stuck in Traffic. The constant approval of Roadworks at busy times. Last year The 79 was affected by 3 or 4 set of roadworks in Bilston within the space of a few weeks. Initially it was an overnight resurfacing Job on Mount Pleasant. Then they screwed that up so the A41 at the junction was down to Temporary Lights, then they moved these further down to near the Island for 5G City Fibre works then there was some by the Peugeot Garage the other side of that island not forgetting the roadworks they do in Hilltop or Wednesbury. This year has seen two lots of work in Wednesbury and some in Bilston. Willenhall has seen some. Franchising just causes more issues as Diamond might take on the 37 there might be Roadworks in Tividale making it late and then some in Willenhall.

Other issues include ASB on the 29, 69, 70, 70A, 37, 11 and other routes. This current Mayor isn't perfect in my eyes but Bus Fares are cheap, he has said the bus is the backbone which it is and has acknowledged that there needs to be better infrastructure in place

Bus fares are cheap cos the govt is using taxpayers money to cap fares , ie subsidising private firms.

Imo privatisation and deregulation has largely been a disaster in most places

Bus 1 has broke down again today on Walsall services, 638 has been pulled of the 60 to replace it, bus 1 and bus 2 keep causing Chaserider issues, i bet they would love to get rid of them to Centrebus or D&G.

799 either broke or got took off 70, on plus side a B8 Evolution replaced it

[Scania K230UB Wright Solar]

Vehicles noted at, not necessarily operating for, Chaserider yesterday at 10.10hrs:

FM11EJD  Mercedes Benz Citaro  Branded as a training bus

YX09FMG  Enviro 200

B6WER    Scania K230UB Wright Solar

FJ58HYW      Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban (rear damage)

PJZ9450      Volvo B7TL Plaxton President

YJ16DSO      Optare Metrocity

FJ58HYX      Volvo B7RLE Wright Eclipse Urban

Bus 51        Heavy front RTA damage

2x UID        Optare Metrocity in white

Bus 144      Front panel missing

These are just observations as of yesterday. Seems to be a few others buried I couldn't make out.

169 hadnt been used for a bit. No idea why though

The Wolverhampton 5 is a euro 6 contract yeah, and I know they always putting non euro 6 buses on there, I don't think the 3 is a euro 6 contract as it's not in the TFWM zone long enough. I think the problem with the 5 is sometimes the driver takes anything, most the time the drivers seem to take the enviro 200s 505 and 506 and sometimes 497 and 498, or a Telford bus is used.

167 has been on there Tues and Thurs, surely thats breaching the tender conditions

Do the tenders for the 3 and 5 specify Euro 6? If so theyve failed miserably with the 5... old Solos, setiously ? Lol

Would Chaserider accept Nbus between Walsall and Lichfield if I have it issued on an NXWM bus If not how much would an Adult Daysaver or Return from Walsall to Lichfield be

Errrm like 2 pound there 2 pound back like most fqres in the country. Used to get annbus on X51 inCannock but everytine i askfor one now the ticket says Daysaver Extra...not a clue what that even is

They weren't there when I was there on Saturday. Only buses parked up were the 2 red scanias 704 & 748 and 191

Ohhhh fair enough

It was just weird how you seen it then no one ever seen it again lol

It was a 1 day use apparently. It was on a 25 coming into Cannock by Maccies. Arent there like 6 of them Scanias parked up? Might be more than one 07/57

So after all the confusion there is a 57 plate Scania Solar

Also 506 has now transferred to high peak

Yeah. I saw it like 2 or 3 fridays ago. The one day it was used 

Unfortunately that is unknown. An Inspector posted this this morning

" Due to unplanned roadworks on Holly Lane, Great Wyrley the X51 is currently diverted in both directions, using Walsall Rd. The works are due to be completed by 4pm today."

But when  or highways guy started chasing up what was happening and this is his post.



I am currently chasing this up with Staffordshire Council as no information has been sent out for this closure but according to one.network the road will be closed until 08/05/24!

Thanks Tony, theres a few people catch it from the Wardles Ave stop early 

Caught X51 from Wardles Lane in landywood this morning as normal but coming home had to get off on walsall road due to a diversion. Nx site says its going down a34 and hilton lane but the bus i was on just simply went straight down A34. Have to catch it to brum tomorrow, are outbound cannock to brum journeys serving quinton/wardles lane still?