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Started by monkeyjoe, December 08, 2022, 10:00:13 PM

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monkeyjoe

Did stagecoach get a feel for Birmingham during the commonwealth and want to change strategy and bring some competition for future growth 

Lukeee

Quote from: monkeyjoe on December 08, 2022, 10:00:13 PMDid stagecoach get a feel for Birmingham during the commonwealth and want to change strategy and bring some competition for future growth
Does make you wonder, mind you stagecoach have been after the west mids for a long time 

gc802002

Quote from: cris 99 on December 08, 2022, 09:12:02 PMWell shocked to see the 41/46 58 will be operated by Stagecoach from january be weird seeing Stagecoach in Northfield and Yardley
Given the dead mileage from either Nuneaton or Rugby , It does make you wonder how they can manage to Undercut more local operators 

Crew changeovers will be quite challenging also but That will be factored into the price which emphasises my first bit 

winston

Quote from: Lukeee on December 09, 2022, 12:21:06 AMDoes make you wonder, mind you stagecoach have been after the west mids for a long time
Stagecoach have been after NXWM for a long time, they could have broken in to the West Midlands bus market long before now if they had wanted too...

gc802002

Quote from: winston on December 09, 2022, 08:49:26 AMStagecoach have been after NXWM for a long time, they could have broken in to the West Midlands bus market long before now if they had wanted too...

It makes you wonder now they have a parent company with far deeper pockets than their own, if they now "want to"

I don't know how long these tenders run for , but they surely can't be ran long term from Warwickshire. Surely there must be a plan to operate from somewhere more local? 

That said the existing local Coventry and Solihull work seems well ran - but would be easier with a local depot. 

winston

Quote from: gc802002 on December 09, 2022, 08:54:24 AMIt makes you wonder now they have a parent company with far deeper pockets than their own, if they now "want to"

I don't know how long these tenders run for , but they surely can't be ran long term from Warwickshire. Surely there must be a plan to operate from somewhere more local?

That said the existing local Coventry and Solihull work seems well ran - but would be easier with a local depot.
It's unlikely that NX Group would consider selling NXWM, DWS would likely have to buy the entire Group if Stagecoach want it bad enough.

The tenders are typically over 2-3 year periods

Stagecoach Warwickshire are already struggling to cover their existing work including work in Stratford recently won off Diamond - but we're heading well off topic now.

don

You would think Stagecoach may have spare capacity at Rugby and not at Nuneaton or Leamington (particularly staff). Thus picking up tenders to keep resources busy. 
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Quote from: cris 99 on December 08, 2022, 09:12:02 PMWell shocked to see the 41/46 58 will be operated by Stagecoach from january be weird seeing Stagecoach in Northfield and Yardley
Will the times for these route change as a result?

Stu

Quote from: HARVEYCLLEE on December 09, 2022, 07:13:50 PMWill the times for these route change as a result?

Most probably, the 46 route gets an alteration as part of the tender spec.

But please, use other topics for such discussions, and lets keep this on-topic for Acocks Green garage discussion.
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BBS

QuoteWell shocked to see the 41/46 58 will be operated by Stagecoach from january be weird seeing Stagecoach in Northfield and Yardley
Shocking to even see stagecoach in Acocks green... 
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

Stevo

Shocking to see Stagecoach past my front door in Olton :cheesy:

Jack D

Seems like a few new services in Birmingham 


41
46
A9

Can anyone confirm this? What vehicles will be used any timetables?

2206

Quote from: Jack D on December 09, 2022, 11:33:40 PMWhat vehicles will be used 
Would guess E200. Standard Stagecoach single deck
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

BBS

QuoteWould guess E200. Standard Stagecoach single deck
41 and 46 are able to have double deckers
Local Bus Routes: 4, 4A, A15, A16, 41,1,11A,11C, A9, A12

2206

#14
Quote from: BBS on December 10, 2022, 10:26:59 AM41 and 46 are able to have double deckers
Probably don't need them though  I guess.
Not sure Rugby have any double decks either.
Bus times say Kettering, Northampton and Leamington have double decks.
Fleet list – Stagecoach Midlands – bustimes.org

The 82 can have double decks as well, as they were used regularly when ran by Diamond/Johnsons, however as the Nuneaton depot doesn't have any you will  never see one on there.
Local Routes
94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

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