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Started by 2900, July 13, 2014, 12:38:51 PM

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winston

Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

Yes, of course. Did the 7 or 65 night have a night service as well?

Mike K

Not sure about those, there was a 67N too and probably others I don't recall.

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

According to the timetable i have, the last buses were at 04:00 Mon to Fri with a journey at 05:00 with normal fares payable. On Sundays there were extra journeys at 06:00 & 07:00
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

winston

Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2014, 06:40:32 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

According to the timetable i have, the last buses were at 04:00 Mon to Fri with a journey at 05:00 with normal fares payable. On Sundays there were extra journeys at 06:00 & 07:00

When was that though? When Pete's Travel operated the 9N, the last one from Broad St was about 2.15am & ran Fri/Sat evenings only?

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 06:43:20 PM
Quote from: Stuharris 6360 on July 23, 2014, 06:40:32 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

According to the timetable i have, the last buses were at 04:00 Mon to Fri with a journey at 05:00 with normal fares payable. On Sundays there were extra journeys at 06:00 & 07:00

When was that though? When Pete's Travel operated the 9N, the last one from Broad St was about 2.15am & ran Fri/Sat evenings only?

1984
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Tony

Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

The 7 definately had a night service, Don't remember a 94N. The Chelmsley Wood night service was the 962N

Mike K

Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2014, 06:59:47 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

The 7 definately had a night service, Don't remember a 94N. The Chelmsley Wood night service was the 962N

Ah yes you're correct on the 962N. My memory's not what it was.

Rob H

Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

By Me There was a 58N & 60N but they withdrew the 58N and introduced a 60N around 1986-1990 2 buses operated the 58N between Colmore Row and the Old Airport on a half hour frequency but I'm not sure how many were needed for the 60N. :)
60 Birmingham - Cranes Park
72/72A Solihull Station - Chelmsley Wood
73 Solihull - Heartlands Hospital
X1 Birmingham - Coventry
X2 Birmingham - Solihull Station
A10 Solihull - Cranes Park / Chelmsley Wood

Steve3229vp

In 1988 West Midlands Travel changed their night services to operate at weekends only with a new weeknight network operated by Midland Red West, also at the same time the 962N was withdrawn, route 14N was extended from Tile Cross to Pine Square and 94N was introduced.

Tony

Quote from: Rob on July 23, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

By Me There was a 58N & 60N but they withdrew the 58N and introduced a 60N around 1986-1990 2 buses operated the 58N between Colmore Row and the Old Airport on a half hour frequency but I'm not sure how many were needed for the 60N. :)

Don't think there was ever a 30 min frequency night service.

They were all deliberately times to depart at the same times from two adjacent roads so that one inspector could help with all loading.

They all left Birmingham from Colmore Row or Upper Bull Street and left City at 00:02; 01:02; 02:02; 03:02; 04:02

Stuharris 6360

Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 23, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

By Me There was a 58N & 60N but they withdrew the 58N and introduced a 60N around 1986-1990 2 buses operated the 58N between Colmore Row and the Old Airport on a half hour frequency but I'm not sure how many were needed for the 60N. :)

Don't think there was ever a 30 min frequency night service.

They were all deliberately times to depart at the same times from two adjacent roads so that one inspector could help with all loading.

They all left Birmingham from Colmore Row or Upper Bull Street and left City at 00:02; 01:02; 02:02; 03:02; 04:02

and extra journeys on Sunday mornings
Pensnett is my local garage. Favourite bus of all time is Fleetline 6360 (KON 360P).

Kevin

Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2014, 06:59:47 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

The 7 definately had a night service, Don't remember a 94N. The Chelmsley Wood night service was the 962N

7N did the normal 7 then up the Chester Rd to Streetley as well
Now in exile in Oxfordshire....
 

Rob H

Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 23, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

By Me There was a 58N & 60N but they withdrew the 58N and introduced a 60N around 1986-1990 2 buses operated the 58N between Colmore Row and the Old Airport on a half hour frequency but I'm not sure how many were needed for the 60N. :)

Don't think there was ever a 30 min frequency night service.

They were all deliberately times to depart at the same times from two adjacent roads so that one inspector could help with all loading.

They all left Birmingham from Colmore Row or Upper Bull Street and left City at 00:02; 01:02; 02:02; 03:02; 04:02

I'm not trying to cause an argument Tony but my Grandad was a regular user of the 58N and he used to get the half 1 from Birmingham back to Sheldon as he worked at the Royal Mail in Birmingham between 1971-1992 and he told me there was a half hour frequency on the 58N within that period :)
60 Birmingham - Cranes Park
72/72A Solihull Station - Chelmsley Wood
73 Solihull - Heartlands Hospital
X1 Birmingham - Coventry
X2 Birmingham - Solihull Station
A10 Solihull - Cranes Park / Chelmsley Wood

monkeyjoe

7 or 65 never. I can't believe you would forget the 94N and during the week used to combined with the 14 route to be the 914 which used to return via castle vale as well in the week. (Might not count as was Midland Red).

Also remember them trialing from LH garage the 94n or 96n which used to start from Smallbrook Queensway, didn't last long, back in the days when we used to go to the Dome on a Thursday night.

Tony

#74
Quote from: Rob on July 23, 2014, 07:33:10 PM
Quote from: Tony on July 23, 2014, 07:09:54 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 23, 2014, 07:06:37 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 23, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
Quote from: Mike K on July 23, 2014, 05:20:10 PM
Night buses used to make up a bit of time on the inbound journeys as they often carried fresh air but you would think an 87 between city and Oldbury would still be tight for single bus operation.

Weren't the last buses on the original 'Night Services' traditionally around 2am  from Birmingham though?

If I remember right, routes which traditionally had night services were the 6N, 9N, 16N, 45N, 50N, 51N, 63N, 74N, 87N, 91N, 104N & 916N. I'm sure there were more over the years

The 12N (Bartley Green, later the 22N), the 37N and the 94N were others.

By Me There was a 58N & 60N but they withdrew the 58N and introduced a 60N around 1986-1990 2 buses operated the 58N between Colmore Row and the Old Airport on a half hour frequency but I'm not sure how many were needed for the 60N. :)

Don't think there was ever a 30 min frequency night service.

They were all deliberately times to depart at the same times from two adjacent roads so that one inspector could help with all loading.

They all left Birmingham from Colmore Row or Upper Bull Street and left City at 00:02; 01:02; 02:02; 03:02; 04:02

I'm not trying to cause an argument Tony but my Grandad was a regular user of the 58N and he used to get the half 1 from Birmingham back to Sheldon as he worked at the Royal Mail in Birmingham between 1971-1992 and he told me there was a half hour frequency on the 58N within that period :)

From when I started work in 1978, through to when they went weekend only there was definately only a bus every hour on all routes. The 23:32 journey was done on the last journey on a daytime running board, then the night services came out to do the 00:02 journey onwards. Night service fares were charged from 23:32 journey. I have copies of timetables here from the 1980s and they were all the same.

My father was regularly one of the two night service Inspectors of the time as well. They both worked from the same car but at two minutes past each hour had to go to the city centre, one in Bull Street, the other to Colmore Row.

In 1991 the following services had night services
5, 7, 9, 14, 16, 22, 45, 50, 51, 58, 62, 67, 91, 94, 104

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