Lost NX contracts

[dayvid]

Rotala long acre have lost their 777 and 210 National Express Contracts. New Operator ill be Decourcey

[PM]

How long do NX contracts run for? Cos didnt rotala only start them in 2011 and I bet rotala will be glad to get shot of work which according to some operators has next to no profit in it

[Ash]

The way it's going not much will run out of Long Acre black diamond's 16 and 50 services how to transfer there to give them more bus services to operate from Long Acre to make up for withdrawing off the 37/97. Surely it would be more profitable to close down Long Acre and transfer the bus operations along with the Hallmark coaches to Tividale and transfer services like the 202 to Redditch to make room. Unless theres not enough capacity at Tividale.

[winston]

How long do NX contracts run for? Cos didnt rotala only start them in 2011 and I bet rotala will be glad to get shot of work which according to some operators has next to no profit in it

I think De Courcey's original contract with NX at the same time was for at least 5 yrs due to them opening the new depot in Miller Street, I believe Rotala have had a number of issues with providing the NX services from various reports I've seen, I've seen whereas as De Courcey are now one of NX's top performers & have recently won an NX award for best newcomer.

As you say, I don't think there are big profits to be made operating NX services, but they can't be that poor otherwise De Courcey wouldn't take on the new contracts. NX work for smaller coach operators is particularly useful as it provides regular work, guaranteed turnover & regular income (cash flow)

I expect the 11 reg Levante's will transfer from Rotala to De Courcey along with the routes. Does anyone have a date for this transfer of services?

[Nathan4775]

Rotala long acre have lost their 777 and 210 National Express Contracts. New Operator ill be Decourcey

Ive seen Hallmark Coaches operating the 777 but im guessing there from Long Acre ? or am i Wrong

[winston]

Rotala long acre have lost their 777 and 210 National Express Contracts. New Operator ill be Decourcey

Ive seen Hallmark Coaches operating the 777 but im guessing there from Long Acre ? or am i Wrong

The NX contract was with Flights Hallmark, some Hallmark coaches are based at Long Acre, so you're correct

[bwsau cymru]

De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES. Don't know what will happen with the flights ones, and personally don't blame de courcey for getting new ones considering how badly flights treat there's.

[Isle of Stroma]

De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

[winston]

De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES. Don't know what will happen with the flights ones, and personally don't blame de courcey for getting new ones considering how badly flights treat there's.

I wonder if another NX contractor or even NX ops will take the ex Flight Hallmark coaches 11 reg Levantes.

Is De Courcey intending to operate the additional 14 x NX coaches out of Miller Street depot?

[Isle of Stroma]

De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

De Courcey have been allocated build numbers F123043045-58, which I had originally listed as '12' plates awaiting delivery in the June 'National Express Coaches pocket book'.

[winston]

De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

De Courcey have been allocated build numbers F123043045-58, which I had originally listed as '12' plates awaiting delivery in the June 'National Express Coaches pocket book'.

NEL111P, did that batch actually get built back then? Or was production of that batch put back

[Isle of Stroma]

De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

De Courcey have been allocated build numbers F123043045-58, which I had originally listed as '12' plates awaiting delivery in the June 'National Express Coaches pocket book'.

NEL111P, did that batch actually get built back then? Or was production of that batch put back

I've just noticed a mistake in my original comment. The list of Coaches 'awaiting delivery' in the pocket book were build numbers F123043024 - 050 (in order of listing in the book, of which '045-50 are for De Courcey) & were complete at the time the book went to print. Since then, I am aware of further builds of (at least) F123043051-062 (including the last 8 of De Courceys batch).

Build numbers up to '030 were registered with '12' plates, '031 onwards have received '62' plates.

[winston]

De Courcey will be having 14 BRAND NEW COACHES.

New??? They're (at least) 6 months old already!

De Courcey have been allocated build numbers F123043045-58, which I had originally listed as '12' plates awaiting delivery in the June 'National Express Coaches pocket book'.

NEL111P, did that batch actually get built back then? Or was production of that batch put back

I've just noticed a mistake in my original comment. The list of Coaches 'awaiting delivery' in the pocket book were build numbers F123043024 - 050 (in order of listing in the book, of which '045-50 are for De Courcey) & were complete at the time the book went to print. Since then, I am aware of further builds of (at least) F123043051-062 (including the last 8 of De Courceys batch).

Build numbers up to '030 were registered with '12' plates, '031 onwards have received '62' plates.

Thanks Dave,

The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows:

Galloway
317 FN62CAA

EYMS
74 FN62CGX
75 FN62CEU
76 FN62CEA

Selwyns (delivered or are due imminently)
204 FN62CCV   
205 FN62CDE   
206 FN62CCZ   
207 FN62CDY   
208 FN62CJU   

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point

[Isle of Stroma]

The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows: /SNIP/

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point

I have the identities & operators for all up to F123043062, none of which are slated for NX ops. Now, it could be that these will be further builds, or maybe the Flights batch are destined for further Airport work, i don't know as yet.

[winston]

The only 62 plate Levantes I've seen reported to date are as follows: /SNIP/

I believe it was also suggested that NX ops Start Hill may be receiving 14 x Levantes to replace older Tri-axle Scania/Levantes in Jan

I assume that the Flights Hallmark 11 plate Levantes will end up with another NX contractor at some point

I have the identities & operators for all up to F123043062, none of which are slated for NX ops. Now, it could be that these will be further builds, or maybe the Flights batch are destined for further Airport work, i don't know as yet.

Thanks Dave, are you willing to share the Id's / operators for the rest of the batch to date or are you intending to do another update for the NX pocket fleetbook?

It may be complete coincidence, but the quantities of those Levantes reported due at NX op's Start Hill and those at Flights Hallmark are exactly the same

Just noticed on bus and coach.com that NX ops may be closing Crawley Depot

http://www.busandcoach.com/newspage.aspx?id=7357&categoryid=0