Chaserider

[Wba_lad]

Just looking at the 1605 from Bloxwich & 1603 from Walsall on Bustimes.

Fair trip / diversion out of service.

No the diversion is done in service, as soon as it starts to get dark the 19 drivers have been instructed to follow the 31/32 route straight into bloxwich from Walsall and other way around, this is because of the anti social behaviour both vehicles on the 19 was smashed. It's not a diversion out of service.

[Westy]

No the diversion is done in service, as soon as it starts to get dark the 19 drivers have been instructed to follow the 31/32 route straight into bloxwich from Walsall and other way around, this is because of the anti social behaviour both vehicles on the 19 was smashed. It's not a diversion out of service.

According to Bustimes yesterday(Perhaps someone could confirm as I'm obviously only guessing here?), it looks like where they stopped tracking on route, is where the buses got attacked, then you get the bus going out of service, heading back towards Cannock depot.

(The one if you look on the tracking map, heads back to Cannock via the A5 partly!)

[Westy]

According to Bustimes, 19 diversion now kicked in!

[Bob]

Did they specify a danger money element on the bid for the 19? I cant think what possessed them to even want to run it tbf

[hlliwmai]

Did they specify a danger money element on the bid for the 19? I cant think what possessed them to even want to run it tbf

They were obviously desperate for the cash 😂😂 what puzzles me is there was 4 bids placed on the tender for the 19 and Chaserider were the ones that won it clearly the other operations that bidded clearly didn't put a high enough bid in hence why Chaserider won it.....Unfortunately.

I'm led to believe there is a big meeting tomorrow with the powers that be to discuss the 19 hopefully Chaserider say to them "we're pulling off the route" and before much longer you'll see the route cancellation notice on DVSA website I'm hoping they do I think it's come to the stage where they need to

[Westy]

They were obviously desperate for the cash 😂😂 what puzzles me is there was 4 bids placed on the tender for the 19 and Chaserider were the ones that won it clearly the other operations that bidded clearly didn't put a high enough bid in hence why Chaserider won it.....Unfortunately.

I'm led to believe there is a big meeting tomorrow with the powers that be to discuss the 19 hopefully Chaserider say to them "we're pulling off the route" and before much longer you'll see the route cancellation notice on DVSA website I'm hoping they do I think it's come to the stage where they need to

4 bids?

Chaserider. Diamond & Nx presumbly?

Walsall Community Transport for the 4th? Would've been interesting to see if the drivers would work a 7 to 7 schedule, plus Sundays?

If not WCT, wonder who the 4th option was?

Even if Chaserider pull off, someone has to operate it?

It's never got to a situation where a tendered route is not operated ISTR, but would this be 'exceptional circumstances'?

[winston]

They were obviously desperate for the cash 😂😂 what puzzles me is there was 4 bids placed on the tender for the 19 and Chaserider were the ones that won it clearly the other operations that bidded clearly didn't put a high enough bid in hence why Chaserider won it.....Unfortunately.

I think you mean the other operators that bid didn't put a low enough bid in...

[Bob]

I think you mean the other operators that bid didn't put a low enough bid in...

Easy mistake.

Tbf tendering was a bit sh#t in the days before multi operator ticket and often went to lowest common denominator operators. I remember Petes travel ( i think) running the evening 351 to Cannock....great if you had an nx or TWM as was travelcard ..not...

[hlliwmai]

4 bids?

Chaserider. Diamond & Nx presumbly?

Walsall Community Transport for the 4th? Would've been interesting to see if the drivers would work a 7 to 7 schedule, plus Sundays?

If not WCT, wonder who the 4th option was?

Even if Chaserider pull off, someone has to operate it?

It's never got to a situation where a tendered route is not operated ISTR, but would this be 'exceptional circumstances'?

Well it's interesting you should say this because when I read that there were 4 bids I was mulling over who they could of been

1) Chaserider (obviously for the fact that they won)  
2) Diamond 
3) National Express (maybe)
4) Let's Go? / Banga? (unlikely I know but you never know)

[Westy]

Well it's interesting you should say this because when I read that there were 4 bids I was mulling over who they could of been

1) Chaserider (obviously for the fact that they won) 
2) Diamond
3) National Express (maybe)
4) Let's Go? / Banga? (unlikely I know but you never know)

Well, 2 companies depots I mentioned are close to the route!

Again, would Let's Go & Banga do Sunday work?

(I know Let's Go did the 529 briefly before you say, but surely both of those would prefer Wolves work in the main?)

[the trainbasher]

They were obviously desperate for the cash 😂😂 what puzzles me is there was 4 bids placed on the tender for the 19 and Chaserider were the ones that won it clearly the other operations that bidded clearly didn't put a high enough bid in hence why Chaserider won it.....Unfortunately.

I'm led to believe there is a big meeting tomorrow with the powers that be to discuss the 19 hopefully Chaserider say to them "we're pulling off the route" and before much longer you'll see the route cancellation notice on DVSA website I'm hoping they do I think it's come to the stage where they need to

Erm... the DVSA don't deal with bus service registrations wholly within the WM combined Authority area no more.

[Dennis Dart Plaxton Pointer]

Looks like that meeting happened as now 19 will stop operating after its 3pm journeys until further notice

[hlliwmai]

So the meeting has obviously taken place this morning and this is the outcome 

[Wba_lad]

I think the decision with the 19 is a good option, still might not stop the smashed windows fully but we shall see, I've been on the 19 in the daylight and it's been targeted, it was pointless running the 19 up the 31/32 after a certain time best to stop running it after a certain time, shame Chaserider didn't pull off it completely or TFWM scrap the route completely, now the 19 has been stopped on a evening means the 29 will be main target. 

[Bob]

Looks like that meeting happened as now 19 will stop operating after its 3pm journeys until further notice

Cant blame 'em, i'd pull off altogether if i was them