4720 (Reserve @ Derby) is currently at Burton, on the 7 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/16020461599/
2262 has arrived from Stafford. 2286 is not in use.
Another MPD is in use at Burton today, all I was told was that its Euro 3.
9 branded 3774 is on the X38 today
2212 has transferred from Derby.
Noted 4212 on suspended tow along A38 this afternoon
3726 and 3803 - 9/9A
4720 now withdrawn.
2328 has joined the fleet from Hinckley. 2262 now withdrawn.
2328 ventured into Lichfield earlier this evening on the 7.
X38 branded 3767 on 1815 9E ex Burton but think this is on an X38 card but thought it was worth a mention.
Re - 3706/3707
Has the PVR increased or are these replacing vehicles?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on September 06, 2015, 06:32:46 PM
Re - 3706/3707
Has the PVR increased or are these replacing vehicles?
Replacements, see Leicester section.
3706 will look distinctly poor in comparison to the other Commanders at Burton won't it
4800 now transferred and on fleet here from Wednesfield.
2262 now transferred down to the Shires.
Quote from: BN on December 18, 2015, 08:58:45 PM
2262 now transferred down to the Shires.
With that one gone, does that secure the future of 2384 into the new year? I can't remember if anybody said it was DDA or not.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 18, 2015, 09:51:35 PM
With that one gone, does that secure the future of 2384 into the new year? I can't remember if anybody said it was DDA or not.
No, that will be withdrawn as well.
Following DDA ruling, darts 2384 and 2328 are to be replaced by Dafs 2716 and 2718
Quote from: 2200 Bus on December 23, 2015, 07:27:38 PM
Following DDA ruling, darts 2384 and 2328 are to be replaced by Dafs 2716 and 2718
2384 died today and has been dragged to Derby.
i thought 2328 was DDA
Quote from: Busman Jamie on December 30, 2015, 10:52:26 AM
i thought 2328 was DDA
No, although an 02-plate underneath, it has a build date of March 2000.
2328 and 2384 both off Burton fleet now.
2716 now on fleet.
There's rumours going around St Maragerts bus station in Leicester that Burton Garage is closing down can you confirm if it's true or not
Quote from: leepenfold30 on February 06, 2016, 05:23:01 PM
There's rumours going around St Maragerts bus station in Leicester that Burton Garage is closing down can you confirm if it's true or not
Load of rubbish.
3 Cadets have now arrived at Burton 2717 2719 2720 with 2212 2264 2272 withdrawn
Quote from: leepenfold30 on February 18, 2016, 05:45:46 PM
3 Cadets have now arrived at Burton 2717 2719 2720 with 2212 2264 2272 withdrawn
2272 is at Wednesfield Garage. It is on the 57 service (Wolverhampton-Bilston) today.
Quote from: leepenfold30 on February 18, 2016, 05:45:46 PM
3 Cadets have now arrived at Burton 2717 2719 2720 with 2212 2264 2272 withdrawn
Not sure where you've had your information from.
2717 and 2719 are at Burton, 2264 and 2272 are at Wednesfield.
2720 isn't at Burton.
2212 is at Burton.
I got info from Derby bus depot website via the forum tonight 646
Quote from: leepenfold30 on February 18, 2016, 06:52:11 PM
I got info from Derby bus depot website via the forum tonight 646
Can they be future transfers?
I just looked at that and the last arriva update on there I could see was 29th January?
Is 4798 a transfer to Burton or a loan?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on February 22, 2016, 08:52:02 AM
Is 4798 a transfer to Burton or a loan?
Transfer along with 4780.
Quote from: 646 on February 22, 2016, 10:27:41 AM
Transfer along with 4780.
<inserts happy face>
Cheers
@646.
2739 now on fleet here.
2711 has joined the fleet here.
Recent transfer from Wigston 4780 noted on the 7 in Lichfield this evening.
Looks like Burtons being offloaded. ...Wonder which will be next, Cannock & Stafford surely can't be making much money 😂😂😂
Quote from: Bob on April 26, 2016, 04:39:24 PM
Looks like Burtons being offloaded. ...Wonder which will be next, Cannock & Stafford surely can't be making much money 😂😂😂
See article in Burton Mail. In talks to sell town services to Midland Classic.
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/Arriva-talks-sell-Burton-bus-services-Midland/story-29178652-detail/story.html
Yea which is pretty much all of the network excluding the Derby route which is already jointly worked and the long Leicester service
Quote from: Bob on April 26, 2016, 04:39:24 PM
Looks like Burtons being offloaded. ...Wonder which will be next, Cannock & Stafford surely can't be making much money 😂😂😂
What about Wednesfield?
Very interesting news and I certainly didn't see that coming, I always had Burton down as one of the stronger garages. Midland Classic certainly are a quality company and it's amazing how far they've come in the space of 10 years. Hopefully the sale will go ahead and they'll be able to make a good go of it.
The investment comment came from within Arriva North East that they were not getting any new buses in 2016 as DB had cut fleet investment budget and is expecting operating companies to make use of cascades, presumably from Yorkshire/Merseyside/London. It certainly seems a strange approach, especially based on their own positive patronage growth figures from Sapphire, principally with new buses.
My money is on at least another Arriva Midlands garage going this year, the apparent reduction in new vehicle orders will start to bite fleets, as it did within First Group.
Wednesfield in particular has a high concentration of buses approaching 15 years old, saying that, unlike in Burton where the routes are being bought, at Wednesfield much of the work operators can just wait and undercut Arriva on the tenders. I wouldn't think the likes of the 10/19 (must be borderline viable at best)/35 and 76 (now vs NX) would be worth paying a great deal for.
Cannock/Stafford could be a more tempting option should it be up for sale, saying that, NX pulled out for a reason and there's little reason to believe there's been a resurgence in bus use there.
All in all, very interesting times!
Introduction of Sapphire in Cannock certainly didn't increase usage. Probably decreased as the 1 had been every 20 mins for years including the Chase period. Arriva convert it to Sapphire, then completely trashed the route by changing it and making it ridiculously convoluted, annoying loyal passengers then reverted back but kept the lower frequency. What a way to mess up a once successful route
It'll be interesting to see what fleet is included in the sale, Burton has a fair few Commanders which are up to 14 years old but across the Midlands there are older buses it could be a chance to get shot of!
Quote from: DiamondDart on April 26, 2016, 09:53:50 PM
It'll be interesting to see what fleet is included in the sale, Burton has a fair few Commanders which are up to 14 years old but across the Midlands there are older buses it could be a chance to get shot of!
It may well be that no buses will be included in the sale & Midland Classic will source their own & Arriva will cascade the better of Burton's allocation within the remainder of Midlands & The Shires
Read on another forum that staff advised today that X38 is transferring to Derby and 9/9A/9E/29 is transferring to Coalville rest going to Midland Classic.
Quote from: Winston on April 26, 2016, 10:03:44 PM
It may well be that no buses will be included in the sale & Midland Classic will source their own & Arriva will cascade the better of Burton's allocation within the remainder of Midlands & The Shires
I agree that could be quite a likely option, certainly I'd think it unlikely newer Solos/Versas and the Pulsar 2's will go, as presumably they're used on the more profitable routes and will transfer with them to other garages.
Quote from: DiamondDart on April 26, 2016, 10:26:44 PM
I agree that could be quite a likely option, certainly I'd think it unlikely newer Solos/Versas and the Pulsar 2's will go, as presumably they're used on the more profitable routes and will transfer with them to other garages.
The Pulsars used on the X38 and the 9/29 will be transferring with the routes to there new homes. The Versa's will also be staying with the company.
Quote from: BN on June 13, 2016, 08:01:31 PM
The Pulsars used on the X38 and the 9/29 will be transferring with the routes to there new homes. The Versa's will also be staying with the company.
I was going to ask as well at some point. Is it too early to ask whether Classic will take on the rest of the stock?
Arriva should give all Wednesfield darts to burton and transfer the commanders to Wednesfield ;)
None of the routes need em lol
But commanders are better than darts
Looks like the end of arriva burton
PD0000478/366 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent (New Street) and Lichfield Bus Station given service number 7/7A/7E/813 effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/367 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Uttoxeter and Burton Upon Trent given service number 1/1E effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/368 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Horninglow, Longmead Road and Winshill given service number 3 effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/369 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stapenhill and Horninglow given service number 2/2A/2E effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/370 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Uttoxeter Bus Station and Uttoxeter Bus Station given service number 4 effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/371 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Burton New Street and Cadley Hill Road given service number 8 effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/373 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent and Derby given service number X38 effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/374 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Coalville and Burton Upon Trent given service number 9A effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/375 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Coalville and Leicester given service number 29/29A effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD0000478/376 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Coalville and Burton Upon Trent given service number 9/9E effective from 28-Aug-2016.
Thought they were keeping the 9 and X38
Quote from: Bob on July 04, 2016, 01:32:00 PM
Thought they were keeping the 9 and X38
Burton is Arriva Midlands North. The garages taking them on are Arriva Midlands, so will be a new registration
Quote from: Tony on July 04, 2016, 03:27:32 PM
Burton is Arriva Midlands North. The garages taking them on are Arriva Midlands, so will be a new registration
Yep, new registrations have been submitted for the 9/9E, 9A and X38 on the Arriva Midlands licence.
Quote from: Cheese on July 04, 2016, 03:56:35 PM
Yep, new registrations have been submitted for the 9/9E, 9A and X38 on the Arriva Midlands licence.
I can only find the cancellations, not the re registrations, what was the date?
Quote from: andy41 on July 05, 2016, 11:10:15 AM
I can only find the cancellations, not the re registrations, what was the date?
28th August, I was reading through the registration documents yesterday so they do exist. You will have to look under North Western or Eastern traffic areas, they are on there.
Quote from: Cheese on July 05, 2016, 11:53:16 AM
28th August, I was reading through the registration documents yesterday so they do exist. You will have to look under North Western or Eastern traffic areas, they are on there.
Oh I was looking at West Mids, thanks.
Quote from: A R R I V A : S I on August 05, 2016, 05:45:14 PM
Any idea if Cannock + Telford or Tamworth will have any of ( Burtons ) vehicles in the next few weeks ?
Not sure where the Versas are off but Pulsars to Derby and Coalville. Commanders to Midland Classic. DLA's and Cadets withdrawn.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 05, 2016, 06:10:59 PM
Not sure where the Versas are off but Pulsars to Derby and Coalville. Commanders to Midland Classic. DLA's and Cadets withdrawn.
Versa's to Shrewsbury for GHA work taken on.
Quote from: BN on August 05, 2016, 08:04:15 PM
Versa's to Shrewsbury for GHA work taken on.
I did have that idea in mind BN but didn't want to say in case it wasn't to be. Immaculate clump of Versas Burton have IMO.
Today's the last day of Arriva's service in Burton before the handover to Midland Classic.
Wonder if people are bidding good riddance? Now onto the next garage to close....😜
Where's 2960 2985 2986 2987 be going to & DLA 4780 4798
I imagine the Versas have moved with the route,which I assume is the X38,to Derby.
Quote from: markcf83 on August 30, 2016, 06:41:26 PM
I imagine the Versas have moved with the route,which I assume is the X38,to Derby.
The Versas haven't been on the X38 for a while, they were replaced by SB200s on the X38, used to see the Versas on town services.
Quote from: leepenfold30 on August 30, 2016, 05:12:36 PM
Where's 2960 2985 2986 2987 be going to & DLA 4780 4798
from what I can see Bob Burton was s good run garage, don,t thing the people of Stafford are to happy to see there services cut & the local garage close either Bob
Quote from: leepenfold30 on August 30, 2016, 05:12:36 PM
Where's 2960 2985 2986 2987 be going to & DLA 4780 4798
Versa's to Shrewsbury. DD's to Wednesfield.
All commanders in service and at depot on Saturday had Arriva branding and fleet numbers removed. Those in service (at least) carried Arriva Midlands North Ltd legal address panel and fleet number neatly stuck to nearside window adjacent to the doors.
Quote from: BN on August 30, 2016, 09:46:42 PM
Versa's to Shrewsbury. DD's to Wednesfield.
I'm sure the deckers will fit in at Wednesfield and add to the air of quality 😂😂😂😂
Quote from: Cheese on August 30, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
The Versas haven't been on the X38 for a while, they were replaced by SB200s on the X38, used to see the Versas on town services.
I see. Thanks for that.