Leyland National

[lynx1103]

Anyone remeber Birmingham Coach Company using Ederley Nationals during 1990`s mainly on Services 9,16,51

http://www.flickr.com/photos/59615439@N03/8706253591/in/photostream

later by 2000 becoming Diamond Routes.

With Service 16/156 being first routes with new buses Daf Wright I believe

[winston]

Certainly do...... most companies competing with WMT/TWM back then had large fleets of Nationals

[danny]

I remember the regular workings on the 120, in the days when it was all leyland, in the red corner wer BCC with the national and in the blue WMT/TWM with the lynx. Good times :)

[Kevin]

Logical thread to drag up to ask this question....

Anyone know if any of BCC's oldest buses survive anywhere in anyway? These Nationals or their dual door Lances?

[winston]

BCC Nationals that spring to mind are:

VNO740S:

Preserved - https://www.flickr.com/photos/southdown/25647984724/
BCC - https://www.flickr.com/photos/eagle50043/6066164994/

JOX506P:

Preserved - https://www.flickr.com/photos/snapper_60809/27705381230/
BCC - https://www.flickr.com/photos/52971760@N05/23754934013/

YEV307S:

Preserved - https://www.flickr.com/photos/lodekka/24297758845/
BCC - https://www.flickr.com/photos/64837879@N05/5936936148/

@D10 - Links amended & extra ex BCC National found

[D10]

Two BCC Nationals that spring to mind are:

VNO740S:
https://www.flickr.com/searchtext=Vno740s&structured=yes

JOX506P:
https://www.flickr.com/searchtext=Jox506p&structured=yes

Couldn't get these links to work? but here is a link to JOX in Midland Red South days, pre BCC  :)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/69947186@N08/14946346824/in/photolist-83tkrt-6ez9Y8-9zcV2u-7RrfZY-ae9dgx-pfSr3C-pmo1fb-oLKWbU-FMjwQW-seKMtg-HoUpvg-b5ERf2-bXUTk7-J42zJh-JjtQ4c-ekFMso-JdjJ8e-qSgnQ7-c4mePw-jmXuG8-9p99iv-j1bKu-pv9xmj-dANC9c-cvDXZq-bcLu6F-cqQrfY-8qbRop-8bfNKT-84VmCt-84Vson-5tUkq6-4RazTt-81aaLu-96soiz-pxa9nW-9qxsHg-nEoHAt-ebaC6V-8CxxhT-bXwqPY-bXwxq5-c3D1JC-cLePny-cfQwbh-7pUG6F-deFisa-gdFtms-qyCDfQ-JqhYRV

[markcf83]

I've got in my folder which contains my Rotala Midlands and West fleet a picture I bought of a former Crosville Leyland National,GMB 661 T,at work on Corporation Street in what I assume is the late 1990's on the 51.

[Ashley 60171]

One of the Paladin Lances made it into preservation a few years ago but I'm not certain which one.

[Walsall1955]

Very early days of Birmingham Coach Company on the (X)16:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4738449699/
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/4620030046/

The service was originally officially X16, but in practice the X was not often to be seen displayed.
When first ntroduced it was an hourly frequency with a dinner break gap.

Prior to Leyland Nationals a Bedford coach and a Leyland Leopard coach were used.

[PM]

One of the Paladin Lances made it into preservation a few years ago but I'm not certain which one.

Subsequently scrapped unfortunately, I'm not sure what happened to the 51 plate Cadets Sanders bought a couple of years back. Other than that, just the 02 Plate Cadet(s) and 52 Plate Darts left at Rotala from buses new to Pete's/BCC.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/57141830@N08/14817855524/

Can't find a source but I'm sure I read this bus has been subsequently scrapped...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/16251851@N07/7347765162/in/photolist-My6LvV-abuwjC-Hy9t9Z-ETc7wP-uzP5HG-sLV8z6-t57rwb-qmtdXj-pjnN24-jFGPZ2-ecPCoY-d8aPTf-d2yzgf-bnxj7v-bVURE6-9Mdz95-iug7C9-iug3VR-ccidAf-7QML1S-iug4iK

KP02PUE also still survives

https://www.flickr.com/photos/16251851@N07/7347765162/in/photolist-My6LvV-abuwjC-Hy9t9Z-ETc7wP-uzP5HG-sLV8z6-t57rwb-qmtdXj-pjnN24-jFGPZ2-ecPCoY-d8aPTf-d2yzgf-bnxj7v-bVURE6-9Mdz95-iug7C9-iug3VR-ccidAf-7QML1S-iug4iK

[Ashley 60171]

Subsequently scrapped unfortunately, I'm not sure what happened to the 51 plate Cadets Sanders bought a couple of years back. Other than that, just the 02 Plate Cadet(s) and 52 Plate Darts left at Rotala from buses new to Pete's/BCC.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/57141830@N08/14817855524/

Can't find a source but I'm sure I read this bus has been subsequently scrapped...

https://www.flickr.com/photos/16251851@N07/7347765162/in/photolist-My6LvV-abuwjC-Hy9t9Z-ETc7wP-uzP5HG-sLV8z6-t57rwb-qmtdXj-pjnN24-jFGPZ2-ecPCoY-d8aPTf-d2yzgf-bnxj7v-bVURE6-9Mdz95-iug7C9-iug3VR-ccidAf-7QML1S-iug4iK

KP02PUE also still survives

https://www.flickr.com/photos/16251851@N07/7347765162/in/photolist-My6LvV-abuwjC-Hy9t9Z-ETc7wP-uzP5HG-sLV8z6-t57rwb-qmtdXj-pjnN24-jFGPZ2-ecPCoY-d8aPTf-d2yzgf-bnxj7v-bVURE6-9Mdz95-iug7C9-iug3VR-ccidAf-7QML1S-iug4iK

Pretty sure the Sanders ones have already bitten the dust.

[2900]

BCC Nationals that spring to mind are:

VNO740S:

Preserved - https://www.flickr.com/photos/southdown/25647984724/
BCC - https://www.flickr.com/photos/eagle50043/6066164994/

JOX506P:

Preserved - https://www.flickr.com/photos/snapper_60809/27705381230/
BCC - https://www.flickr.com/photos/52971760@N05/23754934013/

YEV307S:

Preserved - https://www.flickr.com/photos/lodekka/24297758845/
BCC - https://www.flickr.com/photos/64837879@N05/5936936148/

@D10 - Links amended & extra ex BCC National found

Great seeing these pics, memories coming back chasing these leyland nationals with there huge Volvo engines hanging out back on the 120 service , remember the spencer buses well very eye catching, there were the white Benham BMW ones too, and I recall an all over red swb on a N plate with the Volvo treatment it was mint very very nice bus spent a lot of time on the 16 service.
I use to let TWM 16s by to get on these nationals back to Hockley garage, they clean tidy didn't smell funny just far more pleasant place to be.

[winston]

Great seeing these pics, memories coming back chasing these leyland nationals with there huge Volvo engines hanging out back on the 120 service , remember the spencer buses well very eye catching, there were the white Benham BMW ones too, and I recall an all over red swb on a N plate with the Volvo treatment it was mint very very nice bus spent a lot of time on the 16 service.
I use to let TWM 16s by to get on these nationals back to Hockley garage, they clean tidy didn't smell funny just far more pleasant place to be.

@2900

These ones;

Benham Allover Ad NPD132L:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tcd481j/15664003206

Allover Red JYO751N:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5215463494

NPD128L as carried Spencers Markets Allover Ad:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rm1422/6372114905
https://www.flickr.com/photos/70263997@N02/6382780927

The Volvo re-powered Nationals used to shift....

[midlandred2003]

I worked at BCC for a couple of years and took photos of all the vehicles up to about 1992,I must get around to scanning them one day.

[2900]

@2900

These ones;

Benham Allover Ad NPD132L:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tcd481j/15664003206

Allover Red JYO751N:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/walsall1955/5215463494

NPD128L as carried Spencers Markets Allover Ad:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/rm1422/6372114905
https://www.flickr.com/photos/70263997@N02/6382780927

The Volvo re-powered Nationals used to shift....

Many thanks nice one