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Started by winston, September 05, 2013, 09:15:58 PM

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winston

Originally Posted by centrebus employee statement
Centrebus Holdings Ltd is a jointly owned company with shareholding split
between Centrebus Ltd (60%) & Arriva plc (40%). Centrebus Holdings owns
the operations at Hinckley, operated under the Centrebus Holdings
O-license, & the operations in Yorkshire (Waterloo, Honley, Elland & Leeds)
operating under the Huddersfield Bus Company, Teamdeck & White Rose Bus Co
O-licenses.

Agreement has been reached for Arriva plc to purchase the shareholding in
Centrebus Holdings owned by Centrebus, thereby taking over 100% control of
all 5 depots & the 4 companies & O-licenses owned by Centrebus Holdings as
going concerns. Hinckley depot is expected to return to the direct control
of Arriva Midlands and all routes, licenses & vehicles based at Hinckley
will transfer as such. The Yorkshire operations are expected to remain as
a separate stand-alone business, managed and operated separately from
Arriva Yorkshire under a different name and probably under a different
livery.

This deal will not affect any other Centrebus business and has no bearing
on the 100% owned Centrebus Ltd operations (Leicester, Grantham, Melton,
Corby, Luton & Stevenage) or the High Peak Buses 50/50 joint venture with
Wellglade.

PM

Quote from: Winston on September 05, 2013, 09:15:58 PM
Originally Posted by centrebus employee statement
Centrebus Holdings Ltd is a jointly owned company with shareholding split
between Centrebus Ltd (60%) & Arriva plc (40%). Centrebus Holdings owns
the operations at Hinckley, operated under the Centrebus Holdings
O-license, & the operations in Yorkshire (Waterloo, Honley, Elland & Leeds)
operating under the Huddersfield Bus Company, Teamdeck & White Rose Bus Co
O-licenses.

Agreement has been reached for Arriva plc to purchase the shareholding in
Centrebus Holdings owned by Centrebus, thereby taking over 100% control of
all 5 depots & the 4 companies & O-licenses owned by Centrebus Holdings as
going concerns. Hinckley depot is expected to return to the direct control
of Arriva Midlands and all routes, licenses & vehicles based at Hinckley
will transfer as such. The Yorkshire operations are expected to remain as
a separate stand-alone business, managed and operated separately from
Arriva Yorkshire under a different name and probably under a different
livery.

This deal will not affect any other Centrebus business and has no bearing
on the 100% owned Centrebus Ltd operations (Leicester, Grantham, Melton,
Corby, Luton & Stevenage) or the High Peak Buses 50/50 joint venture with
Wellglade.

Seemed a kind of inevitability but it does seem as if a lot of the julian peddle companies are being sold-theres this, d and g, midland What next? Tbh centrebus dont seem particularly up to date-their website seems like its from the 1990s and i imagine a lot of fleet renewal will be required. Ultimately, I reckon arriva will buy all of centrebus and run it like tgm.

sconehead85

Does anyone know what type of vehicles are allocated to Hinckley?  Thanks

sconehead85

Tony

Quote from: sconehead85 on September 06, 2013, 01:15:39 AM
Does anyone know what type of vehicles are allocated to Hinckley?  Thanks

sconehead85

Perhaps it might be best not to ask!

I believe this vehicle is still there so will have passed back into Arriva ownership
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/1149.html

nx4737

From what I've seen Hinckley is an assorted mix of tat... few AlX100 type things and some ex Stagecoach London AlX200s...

NXWM Spectra

Quote from: Tony on September 06, 2013, 01:03:05 PM
Quote from: sconehead85 on September 06, 2013, 01:15:39 AM
Does anyone know what type of vehicles are allocated to Hinckley?  Thanks

sconehead85

Perhaps it might be best not to ask!

I believe this vehicle is still there so will have passed back into Arriva ownership
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/1149.html

It may get sold again soon after though. Probably get replaced by a Dart.

Justin Tyme

Arriva's re-purchase of Hinckley is a surprise to me.  I thought Centrebus had found it difficult to make a profit there, so I can't see Arriva with (probably) higher overheads doing better.

Or will Arriva run more services from there, such as the 158 Nuneaton - Leicester?

Tony

Quote from: Justin Tyme on September 06, 2013, 08:19:11 PM
Arriva's re-purchase of Hinckley is a surprise to me.  I thought Centrebus had found it difficult to make a profit there, so I can't see Arriva with (probably) higher overheads doing better.

Or will Arriva run more services from there, such as the 158 Nuneaton - Leicester?

Arriva Had a 40% shareholding in 'Centrebus Holdings' as apposed to 'Centrebus' or 'Centrebus North' it looks like they wanted to get full control of the Centrebus Holdings operations in Yorkshire and got Hinckley as an added bonus as that also was part of 'Holdings'. Centrebus remains independant in Leicester and the home counties under the other parts

sconehead85

Thanks folks but its statistics I am after however manky or not the vehicles may be! Hopefully they will appear in the Arriva Midlands fleet list soon.

To part answer my own question I have this Hinckley allocation which dates from December 2012 which I wouldn't mind correcting.

Dennis Dart step  128/32/48/70/81/82
Volkswagen 207
Optare Solo 220-2/9-32, 350/69/72/84/6
Mercedes Vario 430/3/4/8/9/41/2/6/7/9/50
Dennis Dart SLF 517/8/70/91
Optare Excel 687, 715/6..

This list could still be out of date.  It looks as if 2038 wont be the only step Dart with Arriva although it is possible they may be replaced by drafted/reinstated Dennis Darts.  The Varios are split between R reg, but the last three are 54-plate.
The Centrebus part takeover will bring a large batch of Optare Solos to Arriva.
Any corrections feel free to make.  This has been edited from the original post.


sconehead85

covlad27

The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva

nx4737

Quote from: busman99 on September 08, 2013, 08:45:50 AM
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva

Took a quick trip over to Hinckley earlier on the 48, all I can say is the scrap man will be busy, step darts, breadvans etc... Genuinely surprised to see such **** still in use.

Liverpool Street

Quote from: nx4737 on September 09, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: busman99 on September 08, 2013, 08:45:50 AM
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva

Took a quick trip over to Hinckley earlier on the 48, all I can say is the scrap man will be busy, step darts, breadvans etc... Genuinely surprised to see such **** still in use.

Seriously? I might head over there to see them in action.
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nx4737

Quote from: Liverpool Street on September 09, 2013, 03:41:45 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on September 09, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
Quote from: busman99 on September 08, 2013, 08:45:50 AM
The Hinckley operations will become Hinckley Bus and will not become Arriva although will be managed by Arriva

Took a quick trip over to Hinckley earlier on the 48, all I can say is the scrap man will be busy, step darts, breadvans etc... Genuinely surprised to see such **** still in use.

Seriously? I might head over there to see them in action.

Seriously.

As for Hinckley bus station, that leaves a lot to be desired, cold, vandalized metal shelters with Arriva ad's from 2010 still displayed!

Bob

Whats that derelict boarded up building right next to the bus stops?

Tony

Quote from: sconehead85 on September 06, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
Thanks folks but its statistics I am after however manky or not the vehicles may be! Hopefully they will appear in the Arriva Midlands fleet list soon.

To part answer my own question I have this Hinckley allocation which dates from December 2012 which I wouldn't mind correcting.

Dennis Dart step  128/32/48/70/81/82
Volkswagen 207
Optare Solo 220-2/9-32, 350/69/72/84/6
Mercedes Vario 430/3/4/8/9/41/2/6/7/9/50
Dennis Dart SLF 517/8/70/91
Optare Excel 687, 715/6..

This list could still be out of date.  It looks as if 2038 wont be the only step Dart with Arriva although it is possible they may be replaced by drafted/reinstated Dennis Darts.  The Varios are split between R reg, but the last three are 54-plate.
The Centrebus part takeover will bring a large batch of Optare Solos to Arriva.
Any corrections feel free to make.  This has been edited from the original post.


sconehead85

I have put the list of vehicles transferred to Arriva on the front page of the main site. This has been kindly supplied by Arriva so should be correct, although it was sent to me as a pdf of a handwritten note so could have an error in

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