New Deliveries / New Livery & Branding Discussion

[Dom]

Interesting that the X20,X21,X22 branding that the top stripe just below the upper saloon window is blue (the same as the branding) instead of red like every other example of Platinum branding.

[Eric Shaw]

6861, 6867, 6880 and 6884 have been converted to mini hybrid. The extra air vent is on the offside engine cover behind the emergency exit. It took me some time to find this, I was looking elsewhere.

[Dylanbusboy45]

6861, 6867, 6880 and 6884 have been converted to mini hybrid. The extra air vent is on the offside engine cover behind the emergency exit. It took me some time to find this, I was looking elsewhere.

That takes it up to 7 converted then, 6855/56/68 being amongst the first done

[MasterPlan]

Will 6890-92 not be QE & Uni branded then? BC already have 6825-28, 6835-40, 6850-6857 as spares.

[Mike K]

Will 6890-92 not be QE & Uni branded then? BC already have 6825-28, 6835-40, 6850-6857 as spares.

Would they all need branding? The current daytime vehicle requirement of the X20/X22 looks to be 11 buses (summer timetable). The PVR is likely to be a couple, maybe 3 buses more at a guess, but unlikely to warrant 13 branded vehicles. There do seem to be quite a few unbranded ones overall though as you say - quite a few ex X61 vehicles, generic or unbranded ones on the 23/24 today.

[cardew]

I wonder if some Platinums will move soon. I've seen them on the 45/47 and 61/63 of late while the supposedly Platinum X12 had a Gemini on there a couple of Sundays ago. I guess if the X10 is being extended, more could be needed there as well.

[2206]

I wonder if some Platinums will move soon. I've seen them on the 45/47 and 61/63 of late while the supposedly Platinum X12 had a Gemini on there a couple of Sundays ago. I guess if the X10 is being extended, more could be needed there as well.

The X12 is platinum and the majority of the time a platinum will turn up but there tends to be at least 1 Gemini on there everyday at the minute. The case was there are no spares for the X12 -10 platinums for 10 boards. Presumably this is still the case.

At BC there are are also couple of BC platinums on the 60 daily at the miniute. It had 3 on Friday - 6827, 6883 and 6891.
As they are on the 60 daily, they appear to have surplus.
This may change when the Summer School Holiday ends in September and there may be less on there then, though even  before the summer timetables were in place one would be found on the 60 on a regular basis.

[Mike K]

I wonder if some Platinums will move soon. I've seen them on the 45/47 and 61/63 of late while the supposedly Platinum X12 had a Gemini on there a couple of Sundays ago. I guess if the X10 is being extended, more could be needed there as well.

I suspect the BC ones appearing on non Platinum routes is down to the reduced vehicle requirements due to the summer timetable. If the policy of keeping one type (Voith or ZF) to each garage is maintained then it's unlikey that BC ones would move to AG or PE.

[2206]

I suspect the BC ones appearing on non Platinum routes is down to the reduced vehicle requirements due to the summer timetable. If the policy of keeping one type (Voith or ZF) to each garage is maintained then it's unlikey that BC ones would move to AG or PE.

It was said it because of the wheel alloys on the 2015 and 2016/17 platinums being different  and requiring different maintenance, nothing to do with them being voith/ZF.
Perry Barr have both voith and ZF Gemini.

[Mike K]

It was said it because of the wheel alloys on the 2015 and 2016/17 platinums being different  and requiring different maintenance, nothing to do with them being voith/ZF.
Perry Barr have both voith and ZF Gemini.

I'm aware of the reason - but all of the alloy wheel ones are Voith and the others are all ZF, so it's quicker to type that. A number of garages have also had both ZF and Voith Tridents.

[Tony]

This years new vehicle order now announced as 75 more E400MMC platinums.

Allocations not yet decided

[paulb1973]

This years new vehicle order now announced as 75 more E400MMC platinums.

Allocations not yet decided

The death-knell for a few of the 4225-4304 batch of Volvo B7TL's I would have thought (and certainly the remaining early batch Tridents).

[winston]

This years new vehicle order now announced as 75 more E400MMC platinums.

Allocations not yet decided

Reasonable sized order, should remove all Y-reg Tridents & make decent inroads in to the 2001 B7TL/ALX400 fleet.

Does that 75 include Dundee's 14 to Platinum internal spec? Or 75 for NXWM?

[Tony]

Reasonable sized order, should remove all Y-reg Tridents & make decent inroads in to the 2001 B7TL/ALX400 fleet.

Does that 75 include Dundee's 14 to Platinum internal spec? Or 75 for NXWM?

No, the full order is for 89

[Steve3229vp]

Reasonable sized order, should remove all Y-reg Tridents & make decent inroads in to the 2001 B7TL/ALX400 fleet.

Does that 75 include Dundee's 14 to Platinum internal spec? Or 75 for NXWM?

I think Tony's "Allocations not yet decided" means NXWM, NXC and Dundee