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Started by barry, March 06, 2015, 10:51:05 PM

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Tony

Quote from: Celestial Toymaker on January 02, 2024, 09:11:30 PMHey i never said i know better,
and never mentioned Energy Supplies, i said i thought 37 / 80 / 87 would be good candidates for Electrics.
i also never said anything about cost or investment (although the 80 runs as a 3 bell load regularly, 37 does during the peak)
yes i did say AG & WB are getting nothing, in a majority of threads AG & WB do not get the new vehicles, just cast offs from elsewhere

never have i said that know better, never have i said if did, do or don't work in the industry,
in fact nobody on here actually knows me at all, i prefer it that way, i was also under the impression this is a discussion based forum, maybe i go that wrong.

i do not want trouble, i am not trying to cause trouble, maybe i should keep my opinions top myself & just read things & say nothing :undecided:
AG never get new buses? All those Scanias in 2010, all those B7RLES in 2012, 50 E200s in 2015 didn't happen then?

Similarly WB didn't get 33 brand new E400s in one go, then batches if E200s then the Platinums for the Dudley Road

don

Quote from: Tony on January 02, 2024, 10:09:54 PMAG never get new buses? All those Scanias in 2010, all those B7RLES in 2012, 50 E200s in 2015 didn't happen then?

Similarly WB didn't get 33 brand new E400s in one go, then batches if E200s then the Platinums for the Dudley Road
True re the Platinums at WB for the 87, but although AG had the E200MMCs in 2015, that is getting on for 8 yrs ago, so that is possibly the observation. Similar for WA with their Platinums, and similar for WN? I guess AG's E400MMCs were relatively new when they received them but the 4636 batch of Geminis at AG are some of the oldest buses in the fleet now. 
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Quote from: Tony on January 02, 2024, 10:09:54 PMAG never get new buses? All those Scanias in 2010, all those B7RLES in 2012, 50 E200s in 2015 didn't happen then?

Similarly WB didn't get 33 brand new E400s in one go, then batches if E200s then the Platinums for the Dudley Road
And the Geminis Investing in Sandwell/Black country/Dudley did really put NX on the map and was highly sought after by local authorities. 

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Steve3229vp

Quote from: Celestial Toymaker on January 01, 2024, 08:54:11 PMwhat a surprise AG & WB get nothing - i would have thought the 37 would be an ideal candidate for Electrics, also 80 & 87

37? 
Why would the Walsall to Willenhall service need new buses ?

frostjay974

Quote from: Steve3229vp on January 03, 2024, 11:00:04 AM37?
Why would the Walsall to Willenhall service need new buses ?
The 4/4A which used to be the 37

BlackCountryBusSpotter

Quote from: Steve3229vp on January 03, 2024, 11:00:04 AM37?
Why would the Walsall to Willenhall service need new buses ?
The buses it currently gets are upgrades on what Thandi ran even with the oldest Omnilinks being 57 plates they have more Seats, more legroom and feel better. 
As for the 4/4A shouldn't that get new Double Deckers
Local Routes
NXWM 34, 37, 39, 79
DIA 310
WCT 65
Bit Further Away
NXWM 529, 25, 41, 11, 11A, 40, 47
DIA 326, 57, 23, 41A,
Frequently Travelled On Routes
79, 34/37, 39 and Very Occasionally the 529 and 74

cardew

To have the Stratford Road/Warwick Road corridor all-electric would be a good win for NX - the pending EVs for YW could convert the 2/3 and boost the 6 and future orders could convert AG 4 and 5.

However, putting timeframes on this is getting more difficult given supply chain issues. I assume EV chargers or their components originate from the Far East and there are now added delays to shipping due to the issues in the Red Sea.

Patience will be needed (and possibly a few more MOTs)

Jack

Don't think Electric Deckers would fit under the Robin Hood bridge on the 5 would they?

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Quote from: Jack on January 03, 2024, 01:05:33 PMDon't think Electric Deckers would fit under the Robin Hood bridge on the 5 would they?
They would.

https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?topic=5676.msg277322#msg277322
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94/95, 11A/11C, 28.

frostjay974

Quote from: Jack on January 03, 2024, 01:05:33 PMDon't think Electric Deckers would fit under the Robin Hood bridge on the 5 would they?
Why wouldn't they be able to? How are they any different to any other double decker that gets put on that route without any issues

Tony

Quote from: frostjay974 on January 03, 2024, 05:57:15 PMWhy wouldn't they be able to? How are they any different to any other double decker that gets put on that route without any issues
Lots of double decks are banned from that bridge, hence why you never see a Gemini on the 5

Celestial Toymaker

Quote from: Tony on January 02, 2024, 10:09:54 PMAG never get new buses? All those Scanias in 2010, all those B7RLES in 2012, 50 E200s in 2015 didn't happen then?

Similarly WB didn't get 33 brand new E400s in one go, then batches if E200s then the Platinums for the Dudley Road

AG got 6701 - 6711 for the X1, 6951 - 6954, 7539 - 7541 (17)
my point being 17 out of the entire new bus in take

WB 6955 - 6959, 6965 - 6994 (33)
so out of the entire in take 50 new vehicles whereas take PB, YW, BC, WA have the lions share, im not offering any other opinions except this is clearly un-balanced i have left CV as that is a different case, as they are required to be all electric
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Celestial Toymaker

Quote from: Steve3229vp on January 03, 2024, 11:00:04 AM37?
Why would the Walsall to Willenhall service need new buses ?
37 at AG - Solihull / Birmingham (Warwick Rd Corridor)

not WA, sorry for confusion its the daft changes to route numbers
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Steve3229vp

Quote from: Celestial Toymaker on January 03, 2024, 06:19:08 PM37 at AG - Solihull / Birmingham (Warwick Rd Corridor)

not WA, sorry for confusion its the daft changes to route numbers
Daft changes, It isn't daft at all.
Before the South Birmingham Changes in 2017 the Stratford Road was 2, 3, 5, 6, 31 and 37.
After the South  Birmingham Changes the Stratford Road was 2, 3, 4, 4A, 5 and 6.......there's nothing daft about that!

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