Looking at the picture of Solo 2515 posted on Friday I noticed the Versa leavibg Derby Bus Station behind it. It looks like 2945 YJ61CFM. I have 2945 as YJ61CFL. Previously reported 2943 to 2948 are given as YJ61CHL,CFM,CFL,CFK,CFG and CFF which is what Tony has on the Arriva Midlands section. Has there been a re-registration or fleet number change?
I photographed all the versas and was goin to put them all on this afternoon so will check then
Tony
Yes, 2944 & 2945 are registered the other way round to that recorded, now the question is have they swopped fleetnumbers, or swopped registrations?
Ay, there's the rub!
Just been by Arriva Derbys garrage and seen a few 'unusual' buses in the yard
2401
2391
3283 (Ex Arriva merseyside I think)
Unidentified R/TJW scania
Can anybody tell me what these buses are doing here and if there likely to be entering service?
Just dusted off this thread to announce the advance notice of VDL SB200/Wrightbus Pulsars 3767-9, according to the Derby Bus Depot site. These are due in June for service X38.
sconehead85
Won't these be for Burton garage, to use instead of 2985-7?
Quote from: derningtona on April 14, 2013, 09:04:41 AM
Won't these be for Burton garage, to use instead of 2985-7?
Unless Derby are going to take the X38 over from Burton
Quote from: John on April 14, 2013, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: derningtona on April 14, 2013, 09:04:41 AM
Won't these be for Burton garage, to use instead of 2985-7?
Unless Derby are going to take the X38 over from Burton
I hope so, Burton couldn't run a bath.
A new X38 timetable starts next week. Still 4 buses with Trent Barton working the 2 from the Derby end and Arriva the 2 from Burton end. At last they have accepted it isn't possible to do the round trip in an hour with no layovers and now it has been changed to an 80 minute round trip - a 35 minute journey and 5 minute layover each way.
"Derby Bus Depot" site has a new entry confirming that the new buses will be for Burton.
So what will happen to the versas? Are they being debranded or moving elsewhere?
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 12, 2013, 10:35:06 AM
So what will happen to the versas? Are they being debranded or moving elsewhere?
As Burton already have some Versas they might stay and replace Darts, or they might leave and replace older buses at another garage that have Versas already
Wonder if the sb200 will have high backed seats/leather or whether theyll just be standard
Maybe replace darts wich will end up at wednesfield or cannock, although cannock have already had a hanful of darts lately
Noooooo we dont want no more of the bloody crappy things
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 12, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
Maybe replace darts wich will end up at wednesfield or cannock, although cannock have already had a hanful of darts lately
I'd like to see the Versas replace the B6's at Tamworth
Quote from: 2200 Bus on May 12, 2013, 07:40:36 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on May 12, 2013, 06:44:46 PM
Maybe replace darts wich will end up at wednesfield or cannock, although cannock have already had a hanful of darts lately
I'd like to see the Versas replace the B6's at Tamworth
Can't see that happening.
Maybe ideal to telfors/shrewsbury or bridgnorth with the others
I can imagine the'll stay where they are.
I've noticed the 11 plate versas at Burton are coming off route abit now, seem to be a regular on 428
Number 1 reply!
sconehead85
Burton have 3769 (new spare - in normal livery) in use on the X38. 3767-8 are being branded.
Are they standard bus versions or high backed seats/leather like trent barton?
Didn't notice anything special but wasn't looking inside. May be through Burton again on Friday on one of my Lichfield-Burton-Derby-Chesterfield jaunts and will check thoroughly if I am.
Here is 3768 parked in Derby garage
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/9067774273/
It looks to have high backed seats but can not be sure.
Also, is the X38 still ran by Burton, or is it ran by Derby, as I read it was going to Derby on the forum
Arriva runs the Burton end and Trent Barton the Derby end - two buses each which follow each other in pairs.
"Derby Bus Depot" enthusiast site was originally misunderstood - they have news from the whole of Derbyshire and beyond.
Quote from: John on June 18, 2013, 02:31:27 PM
Here is 3768 parked in Derby garage
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/9067774273/
It looks to have high backed seats but can not be sure.
Also, is the X38 still ran by Burton, or is it ran by Derby, as I read it was going to Derby on the forum
On the same Flickr site, the X38 Pulsars have now received branding, and have leather seats,and it is still operated from Burton garage
Burton had branded 2985 still working the X38 today, together with new unbranded spare 3769, which does indeed have nice leather seats.
For some reason Trent Barton (who are usually good at it) have not been using branded buses on the route lately.
Today branded 3767 and 3768 were working the X38 and unbranded spare 3769 was on the 9. The three previous X38 buses are still working from Burton. Nicely unbranded 2985 and 2986 were on the 8 and 3 respectively whilst unbranded former spare 2987 was on the 7. Cheers, Patrick.
The 3 versas are destined for tamworth to replace 2614/15 and 16
Quote from: arrivaaston on July 16, 2013, 10:32:18 AM
The 3 versas are destined for tamworth to replace 2614/15 and 16
Not anymore, Burton are keeping them from what I've heard.
One was on the 813 today, it felt more like an oven than a bus.
2 ex-London DAF DB250LF Presidents have turned up at Derby for refurbishment. the one pictured is a '52' reg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34645962@N04/12016554416/
I wonder if these are destined for a Midlands fleet, or does Derby do refurb work for other Arriva regions?
Arriva North West already have a number of these Presidents in service, so are they destined there instead. It would be nice to have 2 in the Midlands
Quote from: John on January 18, 2014, 08:10:55 PM
2 ex-London DAF DB250LF Presidents have turned up at Derby for refurbishment. the one pictured is a '52' reg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34645962@N04/12016554416/
I wonder if these are destined for a Midlands fleet, or does Derby do refurb work for other Arriva regions?
Arriva North West already have a number of these Presidents in service, so are they destined there instead. It would be nice to have 2 in the Midlands
They do refurbs for other regions too, they recently had some Alx400 DAFs there that went upto Arriva north east
Quote from: 2200 Bus on January 18, 2014, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: John on January 18, 2014, 08:10:55 PM
2 ex-London DAF DB250LF Presidents have turned up at Derby for refurbishment. the one pictured is a '52' reg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/34645962@N04/12016554416/
I wonder if these are destined for a Midlands fleet, or does Derby do refurb work for other Arriva regions?
Arriva North West already have a number of these Presidents in service, so are they destined there instead. It would be nice to have 2 in the Midlands
They do refurbs for other regions too, they recently had some Alx400 DAFs there that went upto Arriva north east
I didn't think a Midlands garage would be getting these Presidents (Would be nice though!) I wonder where they are destined to go to.
Gemini 4224 now has half Sapphire livery for the upgrade coming soon
https://www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/13585897625/
Will it be operated by new buses or refurbed geminis?
Quote from: John on April 02, 2014, 07:15:21 PM
Gemini 4224 now has half Sapphire livery for the upgrade coming soon
https://www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/13585897625/
Sorry if it has been answered before but I don't usually pay attention to the thread, Which route at Derby is becoming Sapphire Operated?
Although it is operated by Tamworth but whilst on the Sapphire topic, When is the 110 becoming Sapphire (New build E400's isn't it?)
Quote from: Nathan on April 02, 2014, 08:01:56 PM
Quote from: John on April 02, 2014, 07:15:21 PM
Gemini 4224 now has half Sapphire livery for the upgrade coming soon
https://www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/13585897625/
Sorry if it has been answered before but I don't usually pay attention to the thread, Which route at Derby is becoming Sapphire Operated?
Although it is operated by Tamworth but whilst on the Sapphire topic, When is the 110 becoming Sapphire (New build E400's isn't it?)
Service 38 Derby to Sinfin is being upgraded to sapphire with I believe 6 brand new Enviro400's later this year.
Apologies but I carnt seem to find it;
Whats happening with Leicsters DAF's?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 17, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Apologies but I carnt seem to find it;
Whats happening with Leicsters DAF's?
The Lowlanders or the ALX400s Nathan?
Some of the early Lowlanders were rumoured to be going to Arriva Wales, I don't know about the ALX400s
Quote from: John on April 17, 2014, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 17, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Apologies but I carnt seem to find it;
Whats happening with Leicsters DAF's?
The Lowlanders or the ALX400s Nathan?
Some of the early Lowlanders were rumoured to be going to Arriva Wales, I don't know about the ALX400s
sorry john I should have put it in the lowlanders. Are they still based at South Wigston ?
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 17, 2014, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: John on April 17, 2014, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 17, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Apologies but I carnt seem to find it;
Whats happening with Leicsters DAF's?
The Lowlanders or the ALX400s Nathan?
Some of the early Lowlanders were rumoured to be going to Arriva Wales, I don't know about the ALX400s
sorry john I should have put it in the lowlanders. Are they still based at South Wigston ?
No problem Nathan. Yes, they are all at South Wigston
Thurmaston have all of the VDL Geminis
Quote from: John on April 17, 2014, 08:04:15 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 17, 2014, 07:23:02 PM
Quote from: John on April 17, 2014, 04:22:59 PM
Quote from: Nathan4775 on April 17, 2014, 01:40:15 PM
Apologies but I carnt seem to find it;
Whats happening with Leicsters DAF's?
The Lowlanders or the ALX400s Nathan?
Some of the early Lowlanders were rumoured to be going to Arriva Wales, I don't know about the ALX400s
sorry john I should have put it in the lowlanders. Are they still based at South Wigston ?
No problem Nathan. Yes, they are all at South Wigston
Thurmaston have all of the VDL Geminis
Thanks John, I'm off over there tomorrow then (:
I think Wigston should keep the Lowlanders and send the Alx400 dafs off to Arriva Wrexham
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 18, 2014, 12:22:38 PM
I think Wigston should keep the Lowlanders and send the Alx400 dafs off to Arriva Wrexham
The Alx400's we had off Wednesfield and Wardles aren't too bad and are much better than the early DAF Lowlanders, if anything the S*** JUA ones should go as they're awful.
Whats the difference between the s-jua ones and any other ones they're exactly tge same bus with at most a couple of years difference?
The S*** JUA ones aren't that great as they are unreliable, the bells don't work on some and because of the staircase location they feel very cramped.
The ones we've had from Wednesfield and Wardles are quite nice and feel more spacious and have better seating.
The bells on wednesfield's w regs dont work theyre full of dead ones. Nx's alx tridents are much better buses
4400 now delivered to Derby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/14449410489/
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
4400 now delivered to Derby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/14449410489/
Are the Tamworth examples due soon?
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
4400 now delivered to Derby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/14449410489/
Are the Tamworth examples due soon?
I'm sure I read towards the end of July on here somewhere
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
4400 now delivered to Derby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/14449410489/
Are the Tamworth examples due soon?
I'm sure I read towards the end of July on here somewhere
I had end of july in my head also. What are these E400's replacing at Derby?
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
4400 now delivered to Derby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/14449410489/
Are the Tamworth examples due soon?
I'm sure I read towards the end of July on here somewhere
I had end of july in my head also. What are these E400's replacing at Derby?
They are replacing VolvoB9TL's but no idea where they will end up when the 38 goes to sapphire spec.
Quote from: stuartn on July 13, 2014, 12:48:39 AM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
4400 now delivered to Derby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/14449410489/
Are the Tamworth examples due soon?
I'm sure I read towards the end of July on here somewhere
I had end of july in my head also. What are these E400's replacing at Derby?
They are replacing VolvoB9TL's but no idea where they will end up when the 38 goes to sapphire spec.
Cheers for that :) I wonder where there the B9TL's at Tamworth will go when the 110 is converted to sapphire operation.
Quote from: Nathan on July 13, 2014, 08:03:30 AM
Quote from: stuartn on July 13, 2014, 12:48:39 AM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 05:54:55 PM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Nathan on July 12, 2014, 05:50:38 PM
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
4400 now delivered to Derby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/14449410489/
Are the Tamworth examples due soon?
I'm sure I read towards the end of July on here somewhere
I had end of july in my head also. What are these E400's replacing at Derby?
They are replacing VolvoB9TL's but no idea where they will end up when the 38 goes to sapphire spec.
Cheers for that :) I wonder where there the B9TL's at Tamworth will go when the 110 is converted to sapphire operation.
Wednesfield for the 10, 19, 334? So they can send the DAF deckers off somewhere else.
The 334 has been axed, and the 19 only runs walsall to bloxwich and only needs mpds...
Personally i would send the B9TL's (From either Tamworth or Derby) and upgrade the 74/5 (Maybe put them ito a special branding for both routes?). This could shift the Pulsars off the 74/5 onto other routes to replace older darts/Volvo B10BLE's.
It wouldn't be much of an upgrade though they're only about 6months newer than the existing pulsars
Quote from: Bob on July 13, 2014, 01:01:27 PM
It wouldn't be much of an upgrade though they're only about 6months newer than the existing pulsars
Well it would be because they would increase capacity. I'm sure i read somewhere that the 74/5 gets overcrowded at peak times so
1912 has parked up in Derby Depot from Hinckley Bus
Are remaining 8 Merc Minis heading for Derby to
Quote from: Nathan on July 13, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 13, 2014, 01:01:27 PM
It wouldn't be much of an upgrade though they're only about 6months newer than the existing pulsars
Well it would be because they would increase capacity. I'm sure i read somewhere that the 74/5 gets overcrowded at peak times so
Its got overcrowded at peak times for years and they haven't done nothing about it lol? They preferred to put deckers on wednesfield routes that werent as busy as the staffords. Deckers wont go on there id put money on it lol
Although it'd be awesome to see them back on staffords again :)
The Tamworth deckers and possibly the Derby deckers are heading to South Wigston to replace Lowlanders which are headin to Arriva Cymru
South Wigston have the 10 Enviro400's for the 47/48 which are apparently to replace the earlier DAF Lowlanders and the four VLW's at Derby are rumoured to be coming this way for the 84/85 Breeze routes to join the rest of the VLW's on them.
What about the remainder of derbys 08 plates that arent used on their other deckered route
Quote from: Bob on July 16, 2014, 11:36:45 AM
What about the remainder of derbys 08 plates that arent used on their other deckered route
Possibly move them onto the 37 as the single decker buses mainly used on the 37 are only supposed to be on loan from Hinckley Bus.
Quote from: stuartn on July 16, 2014, 12:37:38 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 16, 2014, 11:36:45 AM
What about the remainder of derbys 08 plates that arent used on their other deckered route
Possibly move them onto the 37 as the single decker buses mainly used on the 37 are only supposed to be on loan from Hinckley Bus.
WilliamPosh has stated in the new vehicle thread that new E400s go into service, Deckers they are replacing go to Wigston, so there is no need to mess with the allocation of any other route.
I don't think cannocks ever going to see a decker again sadly :-(
So it looks like that 7 Geminis will leave Derby, with one being refurbished for the peak extra Sapphire bus, and 7 new Enviro400s due. The rest of the Gemini must be staying for the 44/45
Quote from: John on July 12, 2014, 05:45:31 PM
4400 now delivered to Derby
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/14449410489/
2x E400's parked round the back this evening next to hinckley bus beaver , plus Hinckley bus short alx 200 parked at the front not able to id any though.
Service 38 (Derby-Sinfin) is to be converted to Sapphire standard on 18th August with a launch event on 11th in Derby city centre.
Quote from: Bob on July 16, 2014, 12:47:00 PM
I don't think cannocks ever going to see a decker again sadly :-(
Latest plans rumoured to be deckers moving to Cannock for 74/75.
Wigston getting slightly less than originally planned
Quote from: williamposh on August 06, 2014, 10:39:55 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 16, 2014, 12:47:00 PM
I don't think cannocks ever going to see a decker again sadly :-(
Latest plans rumoured to be deckers moving to Cannock for 74/75.
Wigston getting slightly less than originally planned
So my prediction may be correct?
Ill bbelieve it when I see it lol. Cannock have had an aversion to deckers for years
Two B9TL's believed to be 4208 and 4209 were headed towards South Wigston depot at 9:10am this morning from Derby.
Quote from: stuartn on August 19, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Two B9TL's believed to be 4208 and 4209 were headed towards South Wigston depot at 9:10am this morning from Derby.
B7TLs 4016 and 4018 are now at South Wigston from Derby. 4018 still has its Derby weekly ticket adverts on the front top window
Quote from: John on August 20, 2014, 01:30:45 PM
Quote from: stuartn on August 19, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Two B9TL's believed to be 4208 and 4209 were headed towards South Wigston depot at 9:10am this morning from Derby.
B7TLs 4016 and 4018 are now at South Wigston from Derby. 4018 still has its Derby weekly ticket adverts on the front top window
4015 is also at South Wigston and was in service yesterday - 4017 might also be there too.
Quote from: stuartn on August 19, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Two B9TL's believed to be 4208 and 4209 were headed towards South Wigston depot at 9:10am this morning from Derby.
I noticed 4208 and 4209 are not in the recent fleet changes as been at Wigston. Are they not staying at Wigston, or just not included in the fleet changes?
Quote from: John on September 05, 2014, 10:23:14 AM
Quote from: stuartn on August 19, 2014, 06:38:34 PM
Two B9TL's believed to be 4208 and 4209 were headed towards South Wigston depot at 9:10am this morning from Derby.
I noticed 4208 and 4209 are not in the recent fleet changes as been at Wigston. Are they not staying at Wigston, or just not included in the fleet changes?
I think they're a permanent move but probably haven't been included on fleet changes yet although some more B9TL's may be due along with the 10 E400's.
From Derby Bus Depot site
Versas 2947/8 have moved to Thurmaston.
4211 is another Gemini that has moved to Wigston.
They've been in Leicester for just over two weeks.
Quote from: stuartn on August 06, 2014, 03:03:26 PM
Service 38 (Derby-Sinfin) is to be converted to Sapphire standard on 18th August with a launch event on 11th in Derby city centre.
One of them, 4405, had a bit of a day out today!
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/4405.html
Quote from: Tony on September 15, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: stuartn on August 06, 2014, 03:03:26 PM
Service 38 (Derby-Sinfin) is to be converted to Sapphire standard on 18th August with a launch event on 11th in Derby city centre.
One of them, 4405, had a bit of a day out today!
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/4405.html
I like it! Very nice. Interesting they used the white digital display. Now... The woman looked quite excited to see the Sapphire Enviro, judging her face expression and body language. It's like "<squee> It's here!" 😂😂
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 15, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 15, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: stuartn on August 06, 2014, 03:03:26 PM
Service 38 (Derby-Sinfin) is to be converted to Sapphire standard on 18th August with a launch event on 11th in Derby city centre.
any
One of them, 4405, had a bit of a day out today!
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/4405.html
I like it! Very nice. Interesting they used the white digital display. Now... The woman looked quite excited to see the Sapphire Enviro, judging her face expression and body language. It's like "<squee> It's here!" 😂😂
What was it doing here ????
anything to do with the 110 ????????
Quote from: dayvid on September 17, 2014, 07:39:58 PM
Quote from: P419 EJW on September 15, 2014, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 15, 2014, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: stuartn on August 06, 2014, 03:03:26 PM
Service 38 (Derby-Sinfin) is to be converted to Sapphire standard on 18th August with a launch event on 11th in Derby city centre.
any
One of them, 4405, had a bit of a day out today!
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/4405.html
I like it! Very nice. Interesting they used the white digital display. Now... The woman looked quite excited to see the Sapphire Enviro, judging her face expression and body language. It's like "<squee> It's here!" 😂😂
What was it doing here ????
anything to do with the 110 ????????
Yes, it was demonstrated to ITA members in place of a 110 bus as they are not sign-written yet.
Anyone seen in derby advertiser re Arriva face possibly a fine or their licence being revoked.if revoked would it just be derby?
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/ARRIVA-Bus-company-operator-s-licence-revoked/story-23182527-detail/story.html
That's like your local rag running a story about you going to court for forgetting to renew your TV licence....
It would say you COULD face a large fine, a criminal conviction OR even face jail.
We all know which one it would be.
Local rag sensationalism to be ignored.
4224 has been repainted
Sapphire 38
https://www.facebook.com/tnwbb/photos/pb.210588765685317.-2207520000.1415122075./723077611103094/?type=1&theater
Quote from: Winston on November 04, 2014, 05:34:27 PM
Sapphire 38
https://www.facebook.com/tnwbb/photos/pb.210588765685317.-2207520000.1415122075./723077611103094/?type=1&theater
Apparently it will join the Derby fleet in December to provide the 8th sapphire buses and will be numbered 4600.
Quote from: Bob on October 16, 2014, 11:28:58 AM
Anyone seen in derby advertiser re Arriva face possibly a fine or their licence being revoked.if revoked would it just be derby?
http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/ARRIVA-Bus-company-operator-s-licence-revoked/story-23182527-detail/story.html
What a shock.
Ms Bell didn't even feel the need to attend and sent her deputy. The result? A formal warning and instructions to demonstrate recommended improvements on frequency of safety checks and a small increase in spare allocations and driver training.
Exactly what it was always going to be for a minor and pretty isolated repeat offence.
Typicl frothy mouthed local press nonsense.
Fair enough a minor offence. But do you not think its a bit complacent tjat they don't even respond to a formal complaint? People have complained about this happening on the fb page on several occasions.
Quote from: Bob on November 17, 2014, 02:24:39 PM
Fair enough a minor offence. But do you not think its a bit complacent tjat they don't even respond to a formal complaint? People have complained about this happening on the fb page on several occasions.
Yes they failed to tick the box by sending out a standard copy and paste letter that you would normally receive from a train or bus operator just to satisfy the demands placed on them by Passenger Focus etc.
If other passengers reported incidents like this directly to the Traffic Commissioner like this ONE passenger in Derby did, far more operators would be in this position. The fact is that most passengers don't even know what a Traffic Commissioner is let alone how to complain to VOSA.
Quote from: andy on November 18, 2014, 01:01:04 AM
Quote from: Bob on November 17, 2014, 02:24:39 PM
Fair enough a minor offence. But do you not think its a bit complacent tjat they don't even respond to a formal complaint? People have complained about this happening on the fb page on several occasions.
Yes they failed to tick the box by sending out a standard copy and paste letter that you would normally receive from a train or bus operator just to satisfy the demands placed on them by Passenger Focus etc.
If other passengers reported incidents like this directly to the Traffic Commissioner like this ONE passenger in Derby did, far more operators would be in this position. The fact is that most passengers don't even know what a Traffic Commissioner is let alone how to complain to VOSA.
No they just hiss and moan about it repeatedly or give drivers an earful making themselves out to be the most hard done to individuals on the planet which does my head in
Quote from: stuartn on November 04, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 04, 2014, 05:34:27 PM
Sapphire 38
https://www.facebook.com/tnwbb/photos/pb.210588765685317.-2207520000.1415122075./723077611103094/?type=1&theater
Apparently it will join the Derby fleet in December to provide the 8th sapphire buses and will be numbered 4600.
Does anyone know when the Streetdeck is supposed to enter service? I take it is isn't out yet, or is it?
Quote from: John on January 05, 2015, 04:35:57 PM
Quote from: stuartn on November 04, 2014, 11:31:44 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 04, 2014, 05:34:27 PM
Sapphire 38
https://www.facebook.com/tnwbb/photos/pb.210588765685317.-2207520000.1415122075./723077611103094/?type=1&theater
Apparently it will join the Derby fleet in December to provide the 8th sapphire buses and will be numbered 4600.
Does anyone know when the Streetdeck is supposed to enter service? I take it is isn't out yet, or is it?
Its been at Derby a few days I believe, the one at First South Yorkshire had its maiden voyage this afternoon if that's more definate news
Streetdeck 4600 now in use in Derby giving a good performance
Quote from: 4484 on January 14, 2015, 11:09:21 AM
Streetdeck 4600 now in use in Derby giving a good performance
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/16276070791/
I was in Sinfin today but on route 38 there was no sign of 4600 - or 4401 or 4407. The timetable seems to require 8 buses, which is what I saw when Sapphire started, but there were only 7 on late morning - one of which was 4222.
3581 in from Wardles.
3601 now 9501 trainer has now joined the fleet.
Derby should be Dart free by tomorrow.
Quote from: BN on April 26, 2015, 11:28:48 AM
Derby should be Dart free by tomorrow.
Where's 2210 going?
Wednesfield.
2546 now on fleet at Derby, in from Hinckley.
Hinckley Bus 2562 Joins 2561 2563 2541 at Withdrawn Collection
T47 WUT is now running for Arriva Southern Counties along with other mpd V425 DGT . I bet theyre glad of them lol I cant imagine how they made it down there!
Quote from: Bob on June 19, 2015, 08:10:55 PM
T47 WUT is now running for Arriva Southern Counties along with other mpd V425 DGT . I bet theyre glad of them lol I cant imagine how they made it down there!
They were recovered down there. 2 good MPD,s there on loan.
Likely to come back to service here?
Quote from: Bob on June 20, 2015, 12:49:58 PM
Likely to come back to service here?
Possibly Bob.
T47WUT was the better although T48WUT was repainted and retrimed, I think it was 2218 I saw parked at Wednesfield
Quote from: Busman Jamie on June 22, 2015, 07:57:55 PM
T47WUT was the better although T48WUT was repainted and retrimed, I think it was 2218 I saw parked at Wednesfield
2218 and 2219 both had repaint/refurbs. I can't remember which one WD had a couple of years back off the top of my head but they weren't that bad. 2217 and 2221 at Wardles weren't as good.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on June 22, 2015, 08:47:03 PM
2218 and 2219 both had repaint/refurbs. I can't remember which one WD had a couple of years back off the top of my head but they weren't that bad. 2217 and 2221 at Wardles weren't as good.
2218 - still tidy inside
Just been back a couple of weeks after 8 months away - I couldn't put my finger on what's missing - those motley Darts!
What befell 2222?
Does Derby still have the Streetdeck?
Yes. No plans for it to leave
Streetlite demo likely to leave at end of next week
Have heard on the grapevine that Derby are due more E400's to displace the B9's to Fester to see off the DLA's. Is this truth or fiction?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on August 22, 2015, 09:46:31 PM
Have heard on the grapevine that Derby are due more E400's to displace the B9's to Fester to see off the DLA's. Is this truth or fiction?
I will say that the Midlands are due new vehicles next year.
2108 Y384 HKE now at Derby
2990-92 on loan here.
2718 now withdrawn.
2550 and 2988 now Derby buses.
2718 back in service.
3564 set for scrap.
I'm guessing 3564 was the fire damaged 1?
Correct.
Clear-out at Derby of scrap vehicles has seen the removal of Darts X523 GGO, Y392 HKE and Y247 FJN. All to Watson, Stafford.
Soon to be refilled again with withdrawn vehicles.
The first Shires B7RLE has turned up: 3861 KE05 FMX
The current East Midlands Airport fleet consists of:
BX04 MXN Mercedes 0530G
BX04 NDU Mercedes 0530G
KX05 KDZ Mercedes 0530
KD56 GNP Mercedes 0530
AE08 DJV MAN Evolution
AE08 DJY MAN Evolution
KX59 CZJ ADL E200
How many Burton Buses will go to Derby for X38 route
Quote from: leepenfold30 on August 25, 2016, 08:21:09 PM
How many Burton Buses will go to Derby for X38 route
3767-69
When did 3513 YR59NNT come to Derby?
If anyone is wanting it, it is on the 26 today
Quote from: the trainbasher on September 01, 2016, 01:23:53 PM
When did 3513 YR59NNT come to Derby?
If anyone is wanting it, it is on the 26 today
All three Wright Scanias have been at Derby since they were acquired a good few years ago, I think they came from Centrebus when Arriva brought them out in Hinckley
Quote from: John on September 01, 2016, 04:31:35 PM
All three Wright Scanias have been at Derby since they were acquired a good few years ago, I think they came from Centrebus when Arriva brought them out in Hinckley
Ah that's fair enough. I haven't been to Derby in ages until today so I haven't been up to date with things happening this end.
2958 2988 3744 3745 at Derby
4748 left Thurmaston turned up at Derby
3552, 3553 in for repaint.
Also at Derby 2106 Y381 HKE it's on 9 route
Quote from: leepenfold30 on October 08, 2016, 04:55:29 PM
Also at Derby 2106 Y381 HKE it's on 9 route
ex Midland (Wednesfield)
Optare Solo 2503 also in from Milton Keynes The Shires
4783 here from Thurmaston
Quote from: leepenfold30 on October 07, 2016, 12:51:09 PM
4748 left Thurmaston turned up at Derby
4748 is a loan from Thurmaston.
3 Arriva Bus & Coach Centros are on loan here 5995, 5996, 5997.
I understand 4783 has now turned up at Wednesfield as is on the 10 today.
Quote from: andyallen4014 on October 17, 2016, 06:07:38 PM
I understand 4783 has now turned up at Wednesfield as is on the 10 today.
Has been in service at Wednesfield since last week.
New livery for Derby
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3552.html
Quote from: Tony on October 21, 2016, 08:44:32 PM
New livery for Derby
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/3552.html
will this be rolled out across the arriva fleet
Quote from: Solo1 on October 22, 2016, 03:45:13 AM
will this be rolled out across the arriva fleet
7. 3552-5, 7-9.
Quote from: BN on October 22, 2016, 08:03:06 AM
7. 3552-5, 7-9.
To combat Yourbus competiting on Arriva Derby routes 20 & 26 from 20th Nov.
http://m.derbytelegraph.co.uk/bus-wars-arriva-responds-with-refurbished-fleet-of-buses-in-derby/story-29829592-detail/story.html
http://m.derbytelegraph.co.uk/rival-bus-company-yourbus-to-run-services-on-two-arriva-routes-in-derby/story-29826216-detail/story.html
4783 4794 at Derby
2550 gone to Thurmaston On Loan
Quote from: andyallen4014 on October 11, 2016, 05:48:52 PM
4748 is a loan from Thurmaston.
Great machine this, interior colour scheme feels like you're in the Sealife Centre!
3763, 4217 now on fleet here.
2159 is now at Derby, was on the 7 (Bus Station to Sinfin) earlier
Are any more Cannock sb200 set for Derby?
Sapphire Enviro400 4404 was on the 1 today
Plain white VDL Centros 5995/6 in use here. 'YJ59 AYX'/'YJ58 FFC'
Just seen 4222 (B9TL) going along the Birmingham New Road, at Roseville , Wolverhampton bound.
ex-Wednesfield Dart 2168 in use at Derby today
4216 is now in the new light blue Arriva livery
Solo SR 2522 now in the new livery
Has there been a cut in PVR here as Solo 2536 has appeared in Shrewsbury and 3763 and 3795 moved to Cannock.
Quote from: TOF719S on November 01, 2017, 07:20:05 PM
Has there been a cut in PVR here as Solo 2536 has appeared in Shrewsbury and 3763 and 3795 moved to Cannock.
4A was withdrawn recently, perhaps this accounts for a drop in PVR? They have changed the 7 (?) I think as well to not serve the bus station so that might save a bus possibly?
Hello just to let you know I have just seen a post regarding 2704/2746 on the arrive web site regarding these vehicles are here am not sure if a loan move or a transfer
Mark
2704/2746 fulltime transferes
Thank you so much leepenfold30 for answering my post on the above vehicles greatly appreciated
Street deck sk17hhc and streetlite sk17hhl are in service here
Surprised to see 4404 on the X38 today in Burton - and Thurmaston had Solo 2529 on the 29A to Leicester.
Way behind but I have only just noticed 4484's post 20/12 about the Streetlite and the Streetdeck in use at Derby. According to Buslistsontheweb.com they are owned by Wrights themselves so the question is are they demo vehicles or loan to cover warranty work. Anyone know ?
Quote from: Grinder on January 16, 2018, 07:49:45 PM
Way behind but I have only just noticed 4484's post 20/12 about the Streetlite and the Streetdeck in use at Derby. According to Buslistsontheweb.com they are owned by Wrights themselves so the question is are they demo vehicles or loan to cover warranty work. Anyone know ?
Buslistsontheweb.com shows first owner, not necessarily the current one. Wright may have sold the vehicles in question to Arriva
I realise that buslistsontheweb only covers the first owner but normally Arriva and the other big players buy in batches not single vehicles hence my query about loan.
Streetdeck sk17hhc now with GoAhead-Northeast as 9085 running on x21
Hello I am planning a visit to the above location in the next week or so could any tell me besides seeing Derby buses will I see anything else from other depots that is info would be greatly appreciated
Quote from: mark114 on February 14, 2018, 11:08:15 PM
Hello I am planning a visit to the above location in the next week or so could any tell me besides seeing Derby buses will I see anything else from other depots that is info would be greatly appreciated
Not other Arriva depots, only Arriva Derby buses serve Derby. Plenty of Your Bus and Trent Barton including Notts & Derby otherwise.
Thank you so much cheese for your post also for the info which is greatly appreciated
19 New Streetlites heading for Derby
New Streelites coming through Heysham-docks.
https://busesandbits.smugmug.com/Heysham-Docks-201518-and-some-/Heysham-Docks-06-01-2019/
Poor Derby. I honestly dont know why Arriva keep buying these heaps. They're generally regarded as awful by a lot of drivers/passengers. Cheap and fuel economy maybe? At the expense of quality and comfort.
Quote from: Bob on January 06, 2019, 05:59:47 PM
Poor Derby. I honestly dont know why Arriva keep buying these heaps. They're generally regarded as awful by a lot of drivers/passengers. Cheap and fuel economy maybe? At the expense of quality and comfort.
It's all about bottoms on seats I guess so the cost-effectiveness most likely is a factor. One of the reasons I can't see the Volvo B8RLE picking up with many major operators as a replacement for B7s and SB200s.
2329 and 2330 at Derby
https://flic.kr/p/S2ZXTS
https://flic.kr/p/S2ZY5d
Are the new Streetlites in service in Derby yet? I see they were officially launched last Thursday 31st January.
They are, but still sharing the 8/9 with Solos - this doesn't use the bus station.
Thanks for the update. However I can be more specific as I went to Derby today. I saw 2329-34/6/7. 4 were on the 7 - entire allocation - and 4 were on the 8/9 along with two Solos. From the Arriva website I see that they are also destined for the 5 which was all Solo today.
So they will require 17 for pvr, 7 on the 5, 4 on the 7 and 6 on the 8/9. As you say none of these routes serve the Bus Station, routes 5 and 7 along with the 4 start from Babington Lane/St Peter Street and the 8/9 from Albert Street at the top end of Morledge.
Interesting that the 8 vehicles on the 38 Sapphire were 4400-6 and 4545 ex-Leicester, still in Sapphire, not the Notts Uni livery No sign of 4600. Is that still at Derby?
Is it just the Solos that are supposedly leaving Derby?
Have read elsewhere that 4600 is due to go to Tamworth in exchange for 4200.
Just graphed new Streetlite 2342 SN68AGP on the 8, seems like more have now entered service.
2506 YJ58 CCD is currently parked at Oswestry, understood undergoing MoT prep before been allocated to Shrewsbury.
Which buses are the usual allocation for the X38?
Quote from: markcf83 on September 06, 2019, 06:10:07 PM
Which buses are the usual allocation for the X38?
Branded DP seated Pulsars last time i caught it
Thanks for the reply Bob. Most grateful.
I will be in Derby next week and would be grateful for assistance in decent places in the City Centre for photography other than the Bus Station. If anyone can help with this I'll be very grateful.
After 8 years of Sapphire branding on the 38 all 5 of the E400's at Derby have now been repainted into Arriva Journey Mark.
Where does the term Journey Mark originate from ?
Can't say I have heard it elsewhere