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Title: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: winston on July 14, 2016, 08:35:11 PM
PD0000478/1 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Gaol Square and Porlock Ave, Babbacombe Ave or Walton, Cedar Way given service number 1/2/3 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/2 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Staffordshire University and Lichfield Bus Station given service number 825/824/829 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0000478/4 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cannock, Bus Station and Lichfield Bus Station given service number 60/X60 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/11 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Staffordshire, Tamworth, Victoria Road and Staffordshire, Tamworth, Victoria Road given service number 8/9 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/15 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Birmingham Upper Bull Street given service number 115/116 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/61 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Shropshire, Shrewsbury bus station and Shropshire Telford town centre given service number X5 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/63 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Gaol Square and Stafford, Rickerscote St Peter's Gardens given service number 6/6A effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/78 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burntwood and Stafford, Earl Street given service number 835/836/837 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/106 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Gaoll Square and Wolverhampton bus station given service number 76/76A/76B effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/108 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Victoria Road and Tamworth, Victoria Road given service number 5/5A effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/109 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Gaol Square and Stafford, Gaol Square given service number 9 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/110 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Parkside Avenue and Stafford, Moss Pit, Garth Hotel given service number 8 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/194 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between CANNOCK BUS STATION and STAFFORDSHIRE UNIVERSITY given service number 75/74/75E effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/201 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Dog-in Tree Estate and Walsall, Hatherton Road given service number 1/2/2E effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/216 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Holder Drive and Walsall, Hatherton Road given service number 21/2A/2E effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/241 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Rugeley Bus Station and Walsall Bus Station given service number 3/3A effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/296 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Chell Road and Stafford, Chell Road given service number 11/11A/72/73 effective from 03-Sep-2016.

PD0000478/299 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, St Leonards Avenue and Staffoed, Weston Road High School given service number 67 effective from 03-Sep-2016.

PD0000478/344 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Walsall Bus Station and Lichfield Bus Station given service number 35/35A/X35 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/352 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Cannock and Lichfield given service number 62/61 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.

PD0000478/417 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Telford Bus Station and Telford Bus Station given service number 1/2/3 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/418 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Leegomery and Madeley given service number 4 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/419 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Telford Bus Station and Telford Bus Station given service number 5/5A effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/420 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Telford Bus Station and Wellington, Lawley, Overdale given service number 6/7/7A effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/422 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Telford and Bridgnorth given service number 9 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/426 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Telford Bus Station and Much Wenlock given service number 18 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/428 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Lichfield and Austrey given service number 785/786 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/442 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Tamworth, Corporation Street and Lichfield Bus Station given service number X65 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/443 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Rugeley Bus Station and Rugeley Bus Station given service number 24 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Westy on July 14, 2016, 10:16:33 PM
And the burning question will be .....

.... will Arriva get round to providing copies of the timetable leaflet for the Cannock Sapphires this time or not?
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Adam 404 on July 25, 2016, 04:02:27 PM
Cannock Services 1/2/3: Timetable changes (3 has amended route in Cannock)
Lichfield - Walsall Service 35: Amended route in Lichfield Area and timetable changes
Wolverhampton - Hednesford Service 70: Frequency reduction to Every Hour
Wolverhampton - Cannock Service 71/71A: Timetable changes (71 will no longer serve Olinthus Avenue)
Tamworth Service 115: Timetable and route changes
Tamworth Service 116: WITHDRAWN
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Bob on July 25, 2016, 05:17:21 PM
Oh dear it doesn't seem like they're doing well in cannock at all lol...and the 116 withdrawn in Tamworth. ..
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: 2206 on July 25, 2016, 05:24:30 PM
Quote from: Bob on July 25, 2016, 05:17:21 PM
Oh dear it doesn't seem like they're doing well in cannock at all lol...and the 116 withdrawn in Tamworth. ..
It looks like the 115 is being rerouted and will go to Birmingham City Centre to replace it.
@Bob
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Bob on July 25, 2016, 05:36:00 PM
The 70 though...at 1 time it was every 20 mins
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Kevin on July 26, 2016, 07:54:51 AM
Really? Extend the 115 to Brum? All the way round Hurley and that part of the world? Somehow don't see that route lasting, next they'll reduce the Birmingham runs to a peak only service.
An opening there for Central Buses?
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: LG on July 26, 2016, 08:21:00 PM
I think that you will find the the 116 is cancelled and the 115 will continue as it does already, I've checked today and it's not being extended to Birmingham the only bus to
Birmingham will be the 110 at every 15mins
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Bob on July 26, 2016, 08:24:02 PM
How it's declined eh. There used to be a host of services to brum including several express ones
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Bob on July 26, 2016, 08:24:56 PM
No change to the 1 & 2 then? Just timetables
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: winston on July 28, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
PD0000478/63 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stafford, Gaol Square and Stafford, Rickerscote St Peter's Gardens given service number 6/6A effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/453 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Nuneaton
Finish Point: Tamworth
Via: Atherstone
Service Number: 65
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 19-SEP-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Cheese on July 28, 2016, 07:47:52 PM
Quote from: Winston on July 28, 2016, 07:29:11 PM
PD0000478/63 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Stafford, Gaol Square and Stafford, Rickerscote St Peter's Gardens given service number 6/6A effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

PD0000478/453 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Nuneaton
Finish Point: Tamworth
Via: Atherstone
Service Number: 65
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 19-SEP-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday

Error on previous registration for route 6, rectified on new registration.  Guessing that means the 65 is going back to Tamworth from Hinckley.
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: LG on July 31, 2016, 01:33:44 PM
The drivers at Tamworth have been told they are taking over the 65 route from the 3rd September.  maybe we will see some "On Hire" notices in the windows if this is true
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Adam 404 on August 02, 2016, 08:45:50 AM
PD0000478/431 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Cannock Bus Station and Cannock Bus Station given service number 19/20 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: JPC on August 05, 2016, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: Kevin on July 26, 2016, 07:54:51 AM
An opening there for Central Buses?

Warwickshire Council confirms Central Buses services 16/X16/X17 will provide a half hourly service between Tamworth and Kingsbury and an hourly service onto Birmingham.
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Kevin on August 06, 2016, 06:43:17 AM
Quote from: JPC on August 05, 2016, 11:25:47 PM
Warwickshire Council confirms Central Buses services 16/X16/X17 will provide a half hourly service between Tamworth and Kingsbury and an hourly service onto Birmingham.

Hahahahahaha!!!!!
Love it! Someone's getting the upper hand here
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: andy41 on August 07, 2016, 08:59:21 PM
A word or two on what is happening to Arriva in this area.

What we have is a terrible collision between the original Deregulation act of 1986 and the austerity policies of 6 years of this awful government. It is no coincidence that deregulation worked pretty much without distress (although I opposed it at the time, but being 12 there wasn't much I could do about it...) until we got this government in 2010.

The balancing act between bus companies and local authorities has been a fine and tight one since day one, but the saving grace has always been the local authority grant that government has always had to fund, whatever has been going on with the economy or politics in general. Until Osborne.

Local Authorities have had their allowances recalculated in wholly disproportionate equations. The result being that some of those with the highest costs when it comes to public transport (due to their rural nature and lack of existing infrastructure) have lost more per head of population than others who whilst having more population to provide for, are already better set up to take the hit due to having alternatives and good existing infrastructure. A sort of poll tax for transport.

In the days of operators that were focussed solely on one area, the company would simply have to make the most of what was there and be innovative in growing their commercial appeal to make up for the shortfall that the LA was withdrawing. It wouldn't be perfect by any means, but it would be in the operators' interest to make an effort in order to have a sustainable and robust future and therefore still be there to reap the benefits of a change of policy in the future. (these are never far away in this political climate)

The problem is that we don't have these operators. We have multinationals with vast fleets in all areas of the country. Their policy is to invest when and where the LA does, and to retrench when the LA has to cut. And that is what we have with companies like Arriva. They will shift focus from one year to the next and if their figures tell them that a bus can achieve a better return in Luton or Watford because the LA is still funding evening services and pays a better rate per head on ENCTS than Staffs or Shrops now can, they simply move the buses.

That is just one example of how they do it. You can apply the principle anywhere in the country, because there are now vast differences between our LA's and what they can and can't pay anymore. And now we have the Buses Bill to inject further discrepancies. Companies like Arriva will continue to play Chess with their assets, paying no concern whatsoever to the needs of those left behind, as long as the margin per vehicle and depot is looking favourable.

The skeletal service they keep in place, as they have for instance in Stafford, is an insurance policy to a) keep redundancy expenses to a minimum, b) keep a foot in the door should LA policy suddenly change and the gravy train starts running again and c) retain an asset which can eventually be sold rather than full scale retrenchment which raises no revenue.

They actually drive down demand for their own product by making it unattractive, and then blame the reduced demand that they have created themselves when cutting further. They do this as a complete gamble, based on the odds that there are few left in the industry that can afford to comprehensively move into the gaps they create and that they therefore, despite their half hearted operation, will remain as the dominant operator. 9 times out of 10 the gamble pays off and they either sell up and raise capital (see Burton) or are still around to cash in when the money kicks in again. One can only assume that they think that may happen round here when the LA's digest the Buses Bill in full, and consequently they are leaving a toe dipped in.

Maybe they will pay for this approach, maybe they won't.

Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Bob on August 07, 2016, 10:38:03 PM
Cannock actually had more choice and competition in the regulated days with WM PTE Midland Red Green Bus Service Blue Bus of Rugeley Stevensons and independents.  Now what we have is a German state railway owned firm operating a fleet of rubbish cos they can. Cheers Mrs T
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Solo1 on August 07, 2016, 11:30:00 PM
They also had an operator with a Leyland national think it was
on service 19 in  Cannock some years back
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Bob on August 08, 2016, 06:17:38 AM
Yea that's the independent.  At one point it was an L reg national in nbc leaf green
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Tosher on August 08, 2016, 08:20:49 AM
A very well placed account of the issues that are now industry wide. Of course, this is where the deregulated bus industry married to a climate of austerity and funding cuts has and will continue to fail marginal communities. We can be certain that rural services will be the first casualties and that more will be to come, regardless of the operator.




Quote from: andy41 on August 07, 2016, 08:59:21 PM
A word or two on what is happening to Arriva in this area.

What we have is a terrible collision between the original Deregulation act of 1986 and the austerity policies of 6 years of this awful government. It is no coincidence that deregulation worked pretty much without distress (although I opposed it at the time, but being 12 there wasn't much I could do about it...) until we got this government in 2010.

The balancing act between bus companies and local authorities has been a fine and tight one since day one, but the saving grace has always been the local authority grant that government has always had to fund, whatever has been going on with the economy or politics in general. Until Osborne.

Local Authorities have had their allowances recalculated in wholly disproportionate equations. The result being that some of those with the highest costs when it comes to public transport (due to their rural nature and lack of existing infrastructure) have lost more per head of population than others who whilst having more population to provide for, are already better set up to take the hit due to having alternatives and good existing infrastructure. A sort of poll tax for transport.

In the days of operators that were focussed solely on one area, the company would simply have to make the most of what was there and be innovative in growing their commercial appeal to make up for the shortfall that the LA was withdrawing. It wouldn't be perfect by any means, but it would be in the operators' interest to make an effort in order to have a sustainable and robust future and therefore still be there to reap the benefits of a change of policy in the future. (these are never far away in this political climate)

The problem is that we don't have these operators. We have multinationals with vast fleets in all areas of the country. Their policy is to invest when and where the LA does, and to retrench when the LA has to cut. And that is what we have with companies like Arriva. They will shift focus from one year to the next and if their figures tell them that a bus can achieve a better return in Luton or Watford because the LA is still funding evening services and pays a better rate per head on ENCTS than Staffs or Shrops now can, they simply move the buses.

That is just one example of how they do it. You can apply the principle anywhere in the country, because there are now vast differences between our LA's and what they can and can't pay anymore. And now we have the Buses Bill to inject further discrepancies. Companies like Arriva will continue to play Chess with their assets, paying no concern whatsoever to the needs of those left behind, as long as the margin per vehicle and depot is looking favourable.

The skeletal service they keep in place, as they have for instance in Stafford, is an insurance policy to a) keep redundancy expenses to a minimum, b) keep a foot in the door should LA policy suddenly change and the gravy train starts running again and c) retain an asset which can eventually be sold rather than full scale retrenchment which raises no revenue.

They actually drive down demand for their own product by making it unattractive, and then blame the reduced demand that they have created themselves when cutting further. They do this as a complete gamble, based on the odds that there are few left in the industry that can afford to comprehensively move into the gaps they create and that they therefore, despite their half hearted operation, will remain as the dominant operator. 9 times out of 10 the gamble pays off and they either sell up and raise capital (see Burton) or are still around to cash in when the money kicks in again. One can only assume that they think that may happen round here when the LA's digest the Buses Bill in full, and consequently they are leaving a toe dipped in.

Maybe they will pay for this approach, maybe they won't.
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Grinder on August 10, 2016, 02:53:09 PM
In a post the closure of Stafford Garage I referred to the Deutsche Bahn takeover of Arriva and still remain convinced that they were only ever really interested in the rail franchises.  I am sure that government policy has a part to play in Arriva's moves but it is just one part, albeit a large one, of the whole picture.
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Ck on August 10, 2016, 09:53:58 PM
Service changes with some timetables now on arriva website Stafford town has certainly been hit hard shoppers only service on old route 1 baswich
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Cheese on August 11, 2016, 06:51:54 AM
Quote from: Ck on August 10, 2016, 09:53:58 PM
Service changes with some timetables now on arriva website Stafford town has certainly been hit hard shoppers only service on old route 1 baswich

825 will be going along the 824 route all day so will go through part of Baswich, not the top end of Baswich Lane though like the 1 did.
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Grinder on August 13, 2016, 04:57:48 PM
PD0000478/1 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stafford, Gaol Square and Porlock Ave, Babbacombe Ave or Walton, Cedar Way given service number 1/2/3 effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.


This is not supported by the new timetable on Arriva's website.  Service no quoted on timetable is 1B and it goes no-where near Babbacombe Ave or Walton, Cedar Avenue.  Babbacombe should read Widecombe Ave. The service to Walton was dropped last year.
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: winston on August 30, 2016, 04:44:34 PM
PD0000478/108 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Tamworth, Victoria Road and Tamworth, Victoria Road given service number 5/5A effective from 03-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/311 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Halesowen and Merry Hill Centre given service number 17 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/312 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Brierley Hill and Brierley Hill given service number 13 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/338 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Wolverhampton and Fordhouses given service number 63/64/65 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/339 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Wolverhampton Bus Station and Bilston Bus Station given service number 57 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/342 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Wolverhampton and Perton given service number 10/10A/10B/10S effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/411 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Merry Hill Centre, Bus Station and Blackheath, Halesowen Street given service number 12 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

PD0000478/436 - ARRIVA MIDLANDS NORTH LTD T/A ARRIVA MIDLANDS, THURMASTON GARAGE, 4 WESTMORELAND AVENUE, THURMASTON, LEICESTER, LE4 8PH
    Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Bilston Bus Station and Penderford Business Park given service number 25 effective from 04-Sep-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.

Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Westy on September 06, 2016, 06:57:56 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but should Nwm have updated the timetable outside my house for the 2 & x51, as the timetable is still dated January 2016?

Nwm are normally good at updating the roadside stops, if not as good at the hard copy leaflets!
Title: Re: Arriva service changes 3rd September 2016
Post by: Cheese on September 06, 2016, 04:51:32 PM
Quote from: Westy on September 06, 2016, 06:57:56 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but should Nwm have updated the timetable outside my house for the 2 & x51, as the timetable is still dated January 2016?

Nwm are normally good at updating the roadside stops, if not as good at the hard copy leaflets!

You would have thought so, the updated times for the 2 at least have been on Traveline for long enough, would assume the X51 has also been updated by now also so the data should be there for them to do it. Mind you, NWM still hadn't updated the 110 on Traveline from the 24th July change (and they have been reminded more than once to pull their finger out and do it) and they haven't bothered to update the 35 based on the changes this week either so they seem to be slipping somewhat.