I am hopefully heading this way later in the week, and am hoping to find the S-JUA decker at Oswestry.
Does anyone where it may appear, or knows if it has a regular route or if it is not in use over the school holidays
Luckily managed to find 4788 on one of the Oswestry Town services
2550 is about to join Oswestry fresh from MOT.
Any more Solos heading for Oswestry
2550 now left after a short spell.
Anyone spotted the Facebook post about a former employee of Oswestry still listed as an alarm keyholder?
2712 now here
Is 4788 seeing any use during the summer?
Lowlander 4707 turned up at Oswestry
4795 now on loan here.
2546 here at Oswestry
3508-3512 on the way to Oswestry
Good evening, my first post on this group.
Scanias 3510 YN08 HZX, 3511, YN08 HZY & 3512 YN08 HZZ are now parked at Oswestry and appear to have replaced 3730 YJ57 BRF, 3731 YJ57 BRV and 3743 YJ59 BVB today.
3727 YJ57 BUA, 3729 YJ57 BPZ and 3742 YJ59 BVA linger on for now.
Chris
3727, 3729 and 3742 are still seeing use at Oswestry as it stands.
Quote from: Depotosw on May 02, 2017, 09:07:05 PM
3727, 3729 and 3742 are still seeing use at Oswestry as it stands.
I've heard they are waiting for the first tranche of refurbs to be released from MRC before any more movements take place.
All Scanias 3508-12 have seen service at Oswestry now, 3508 arriving a around a week ago with 3729 now departing. So far 3727 and 3742 are holding on here, probably helped with 3510 been dumped in the garage yard with a blown engine!
They left today
Indeed they did, Versa 2987 has been reallocated from Shrewsbury to replace one and entered service on the 70 today. P&R livery Versa 2969 has been on loan from Shrewsbury all week to cover 3510.
Depot Arriva Oswestry currently use is now for sale:
http://www.bordercountiesadvertizer.co.uk/home/2017/08/29/gallery/oswestry-bus-depot-goes-on-the-market-for-600-000-93721/
3509 currently on its way to mrc to be repainted
Quote from: ntw456 on October 20, 2017, 11:00:39 AM
3509 currently on its way to mrc to be repainted
Hopefully it stays in Derby and 3795 comes back instead.
Scania 3509 now back in service today on 53 to Ellesmere.
Cadet, 2744 LF02 PLV noted on loan at Oswestry and seen today in use on the 576 Oswestry to Shrewsbury.
Oswestry garage are to have direct competition registered against their commercial service 2 Oswestry to Wrexham and 2C Cefn Mawr - Wrexham by EasyCoach registering a competing 2 and 2D service to start end of June.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/518840/
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/518891/
Quote from: Depotosw on May 09, 2018, 08:18:22 PM
Oswestry garage are to have direct competition registered against their commercial service 2 Oswestry to Wrexham and 2C Cefn Mawr - Wrexham by EasyCoach registering a competing 2 and 2D service to start end of June.
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/518840/
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/518891/
Given the way Easybus self combusted a few months ago, I doubt these registrations will give Arriva too many the sleepless nights...
Quote from: metrocity on May 09, 2018, 10:15:30 PM
Given the way Easybus self combusted a few months ago, I doubt these registrations will give Arriva too many the sleepless nights...
Some of the last Shrewsbury Services registered against Arriva never operated.
You would have also thought they would have seen and learned from the recent failed attempts in places like Tamworth to see how much of an impact predatory action had on Arriva...
Quote from: Straightlines on May 10, 2018, 07:18:38 AM
Some of the last Shrewsbury Services registered against Arriva never operated.
You would have also thought they would have seen and learned from the recent failed attempts in places like Tamworth to see how much of an impact predatory action had on Arriva...
Not sure Tamworth was a failed attempt - Arriva deregistered off the 35/35A and 115. Yourbus also appear to be going strong in Derby.
It will be interesting to see how Easybus perform, especially with 12 year old Optare Tempos...
Nobody even bothers to compete with them in Cannock anymore, the network is in terminal decline. In the 80s you had WMT, Chase, Green Bus, Stevensons, Midland Red North ( Arriva) and others! Its dying a death now
Quote from: Bob on May 10, 2018, 10:34:44 PM
Nobody even bothers to compete with them in Cannock anymore, the network is in terminal decline. In the 80s you had WMT, Chase, Green Bus, Stevensons, Midland Red North ( Arriva) and others! Its dying a death now
It's a sign of the times. As you say, the network is in terminal decline. The damage done over the years to the network is probably irreparable.
That said, I'm not sure running 5 minutes in front of another bus is the answer, or ever has been.
Regarding Tamworth, yes Arriva retreated from the more marginal services where their profits were obviously lower; But protected the Town network when they received competition on the 3, 4, 5 and 8/9 from various operators.
Quote from: samash on July 10, 2018, 06:47:25 AM
Unfortunately it's not all about the passengers liking a bus, if you are unable to reverse it off Shrewsbury bus station then it is unfit for service, same with the 449 at Hindford, and even on the yard!
Totally agree with your comments but it wasn't always having that issue reversing at Shrewsbury on which I base my comments on and provided some good months doing normal service, only the last couple of months it appears troublesome, would be nicer to see another example appear in a newer coat of paint however! The use of 2546 on peak workings out of Shrewsbury on the 70 of late isn't ideal on the under end of the scale!
Quote from: Depotosw on July 10, 2018, 06:37:07 PM
The use of 2546 on peak workings out of Shrewsbury on the 70 of late isn't ideal on the under end of the scale!
Yes that can be quite interesting, during the day it's perfect for the 70 as it has excellent acceleration and handling for a 15 year old bus! However I imagine it would be quite fun on a peak time journey, although I haven't yet had the pleasure of having '46 on an evening peak. Saying that for the loading I had this morning on the 70/8A a Ford Galaxy would've sufficed!
Quote from: samash on July 10, 2018, 06:47:25 AM
Unfortunately it's not all about the passengers liking a bus, if you are unable to reverse it off Shrewsbury bus station then it is unfit for service, same with the 449 at Hindford, and even on the yard!
Fully agree with your comments with 4707 currently, but my comments with it been liked by the passengers were some months ago when it didn't have such issues when it covered service work daily on the 70/70A for weeks opposed to its 405 duty. It would be nice to see a replacement in a newer coat of paint. I was trying to point out regarding 4802 been a Y reg DLA that it was considered unsuitable for operation at Oswestry due to its height and Whittington Road bridge tight clearance compared to 4707 been the reason for 4707 been allocated to Oswestry (4707 and 4802 swapped at Telford). The current Telford DLAs such as 4803 Y485 UGC would present the same issue as 4802 did as the same height, unsure if 4806/7 are any better in that respect.
I was looking at 4707 today and the seats look well passed their best to be fair. Hopefully something a little tidier can be found to replace it?
Any idea what will come for the 54 service in September? 3717 would be nice ;D
Quote from: TOF719S on July 11, 2018, 07:58:21 PM
I was looking at 4707 today and the seats look well passed their best to be fair. Hopefully something a little tidier can be found to replace it?
Any idea what will come for the 54 service in September? 3717 would be nice ;D
You're welcome to it! It broke down the other day. Mechanics came out - broke again half an hour later after just one full loop of Brookside!
Quote from: TOF719S on July 11, 2018, 07:58:21 PM
I was looking at 4707 today and the seats look well passed their best to be fair. Hopefully something a little tidier can be found to replace it?
Any idea what will come for the 54 service in September? 3717 would be nice ;D
There was talk of 4709 appearing to replace 4707 a few times but it ended up in Luton, at least the paint on it looks very tidy! There are some 52 plate examples that would be welcome too.
What's the betting 2985 appears for the 54 to join 2986/7.
Quote from: samash on July 10, 2018, 07:21:09 PM
Yes that can be quite interesting, during the day it's perfect for the 70 as it has excellent acceleration and handling for a 15 year old bus! However I imagine it would be quite fun on a peak time journey, although I haven't yet had the pleasure of having '46 on an evening peak. Saying that for the loading I had this morning on the 70/8A a Ford Galaxy would've sufficed!
The 70 wouldn't have coped with a 11.1M Versa a few years ago, wasn't that long ago the 07:32 was rammed standing on the SPDs by West Felton on a college day, same with the 16:42 and 17:42 ex SY back in the day. I don't think the messing around with the X70 on peak turns some years ago helped things out, passengers started to drop.
It was notable a number of weeks ago 2986 failed at Shrewsbury on the 17:17 trip and 2546 worked the 17:47, you can guess the loading result at a peak time on a Friday! 2546 does appear to be much better than 6005/06 saying that!
3756 has arrived at Oswestry this evening, extra spare for the 2 series of services to Wrexham due to the EasyCoach competition on route 2.
Quote from: Depotosw on July 25, 2018, 11:40:19 PM
3756 has arrived at Oswestry this evening, extra spare for the 2 series of services to Wrexham due to the EasyCoach competition on route 2.
Good luck with that one; has one of the most confused and jumpy gearboxes ever :/
Quote from: PointerDart on July 26, 2018, 07:26:42 AM
Good luck with that one; has one of the most confused and jumpy gearboxes ever :/
The workshop staff at Oswestry are very good with the SB200 so I'm sure they will have it running at its best within a few days.
Noted Shrewsbury Park and Ride livery Versa 2969 YJ60 LUH at the yard in Oswestry this teatime, reason unknown but suspect a loan?
4806 X502 GGO is now in service at Oswestry, it was on a morning 53 trip before been swapped off. 4707 Y707 XJF appears to be now out of service as a result.
4707 since departing Oswestry has now resurfaced at High Wycombe and returned to service there.
2546 is has been appearing on the 70/70A to Shrewsbury on a daily basis the whole of last week and appears to be following that trend last week, not ideal as I encountered as a passenger twice last week!
4806 for anyone looking for it on a school day works on the 53 Ellesmere and later PM 449 trips to Welshampton unless it gets swapped off. It should be working on the 405 School Service which is a decker specific contact but this seems to be seeing mainly Scania operation at the moment.
3782 has appeared at Oswestry from Telford today and pressed on route 53 Oswestry - Ellesmere. It has replaced 3756 which has returned to Telford for a few weeks as suggested and are expected to revert back.
3785 FL63 DXT has gone to MRC (Derby) this week for repaint, the batch 3785-91 are expected to follow in turn. Repaint float cover Cadet 2704 BU02 URY arrived today at Oswestry as the cover for this.
3782 FL63 DXP is still covering for 3756 YJ61 FEF.
Meanwhile Versa 2986 YJ09 LBL has been out of use for nearly two month now and stored in the yard following been towed in from a major unit failure.
2986 YJ09 LBL has returned to service with what appears to be a replacement engine, been eased back into use on the Oswestry Town Services today.
Quote from: Depotosw on April 23, 2017, 08:14:36 PM
Good evening, my first post on this group.
Scanias 3510 YN08 HZX, 3511, YN08 HZY & 3512 YN08 HZZ are now parked at Oswestry and appear to have replaced 3730 YJ57 BRF, 3731 YJ57 BRV and 3743 YJ59 BVB today.
3727 YJ57 BUA, 3729 YJ57 BPZ and 3742 YJ59 BVA linger on for now.
Chris
I thought 3727/9 etc were Tamworth vehicles
Quote from: Bob on January 06, 2019, 09:15:17 AM
I thought 3727/9 etc were Tamworth vehicles
Not in 2017
Repaint cover Cadet, 2704 BU02 URY ventured back to its home town today on route 70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury.
A second Cadet has arrived at Oswestry, understood to be 2744 with a Pulsar 2 going to MRC for repaint.
4803 Y485 UGC has arrived at Oswestry today from Telford and appears to have covered some 53 Ellesmere trips towards the end of the day. This joins 4806 X502 GGO here and finds two deckers on fleet strength at Oswestry, the later usually spent the best part of the day on the 70/70A Oswestry to Shrewsbury.
3790 FL63 DXY is back in use today on the 70 to Shrewsbury, nice run back o. The 17.17 ex SY👍
Looks excellent in the revised livery with USB ports added, shame no opportunity to add WiFi to these.
A update on Oswestry, Pulsar 2's 3756/85/7/8/9/90 are all back in use in the new livery, retaining the black on the headlights surrounds and they look so much better for it. They are also fitted with USB charging points, already proving popular in the 2/2A/2C services. 3786/91 are the last ones away at MRC been completed with 3791 departing by at least last Saturday after putting the final day in use in the older livery on the 70/70A service the day prior.
Repaint cover Cadet, 2704 departed 21/02 to Telford for repaints there as 3788 was returned, Cadet 2744 is still covering.
4803 still remains here from Telford and as I understand only a loan at this stage with 2945 away with issues been reviewed for at least a month now. I understand 4803 is expected to transfer in May due to a new school contract gain that requires a decker as part of the tender, it remains to be seen if returns to Telford between or if anything else ends up coming. 4803 has proved very useful with heavy loading for the Lakelands School in Ellesmere so has been put to good use.
Repaint cover Cadet 2744 LF02 PLV looks to have finished at Oswestry and even likely its Arriva career, noted that front hanover display has been removed. Checking on DVLA online, it shows MoT is due 15th March 2019 in any case.
I know it's a regular working for this bus but I've just seen 3787 in Wrexham. It was on the 2a.
2985 YJ09 LBK as long anticipated finally was reallocated to Oswestry from Shrewsbury for the start of May (successor to the departed 2546 YN53 SVT). Also of note is 4803 Y485 UGC was previous considered a loan from Telford is dedicated here now for use on the 71 Four Crosses - Marches School Oswestry and PM return, also works a teatime single run on a 79A to Oswestry to Blodwel Bank from the same time, the later links as a college run. These are Shropshire Council tenders gained from Tanat Valley.
Reported changes at Oswestry are 2943/4 to Shrewsbury due to additional Park & Ride requirements and 3761/2 in from Cannock as replacements.
Just seen Oswestry allocated Pulsar 2, 3791 FL63 DXZ is currently on the 4 in Telford.
Quote from: Depotosw on March 07, 2020, 05:32:29 PM
Just seen Oswestry allocated Pulsar 2, 3791 FL63 DXZ is currently on the 4 in Telford.
Has it been transferred perhaps? Must have been short of streetlites on the 4 today as I saw an E200 on there as well.
Quote from: NXWMFAN1105 on March 07, 2020, 05:58:24 PM
Has it been transferred perhaps? Must have been short of streetlites on the 4 today as I saw an E200 on there as well.
Had it confirmed elsewhere on loan for a few weeks following the demise of 2768.
For those interested in operations here, the following status of active and inactive (SORN due to COVID-19):
Active:
2945, 2946, 2986, 2987, 3756, 3762, 3785, 3786, 3787, 3788, 3789, 3790, 3791, 6005, 6006
Inactive (SORN):
2985, 3508, 3509, 3510, 3511, 3512, 3761, 4803, 4806
Quote from: Depotosw on April 28, 2020, 10:48:03 AM
For those interested in operations here, the following status of active and inactive (SORN due to COVID-19):
Active:
2945, 2946, 2986, 2987, 3756, 3762, 3785, 3786, 3787, 3788, 3789, 3790, 3791, 6005, 6006
Inactive (SORN):
2985, 3508, 3509, 3510, 3511, 3512, 3761, 4803, 4806
3762 has now been placed onto SORN at the end of April.
3790 is also on SORN as of the end of April.
2985 and 3790 have been retaxed by 18th May, this due to extra 2B/2C workings been added to supplement the 2 and 2A due to increasing loadings over the border.
Streetdeck 4600 FJ64 ETZ turned up at Oswestry yesterday on loan from Tamworth and is expected to see use next week to aid with social distancing here. DB250s 4803 Y485 UGC and 4806 X502 GGO are expected to also return back to use in order to provide extra capacity.
Quote from: Depotosw on May 29, 2020, 11:15:52 AM
Streetdeck 4600 FJ64 ETZ turned up at Oswestry yesterday on loan from Tamworth and is expected to see use next week to aid with social distancing here. DB250s 4803 Y485 UGC and 4806 X502 GGO are expected to also return back to use in order to provide extra capacity.
What's the streetdeck likely to be on?
On side of road usually Waiting tow truck 😀
Quote from: Pat on May 29, 2020, 12:01:30 PM
What’s the streetdeck likely to be on?
Cannot confirm but today it operated AM and PM peak 70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury and return workings and one 400 Oswestry Town Service, Aston Way 'loop' only. Due to it's height it cannot see universal use at Oswestry due to Whittington Road bridge.
It tracks on the BusTimes.org as 'SP OS' obviously been the spare Oswestry ticketer machine https://bustimes.org/vehicles/199352 but don't be fooled as it also claims to be operating at Derby still and on the X38 today and did when it was at Tamworth as seen here! https://bustimes.org/vehicles/37832
A record shot to illustrate here from a few snapped:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/35721472@N08/49961310866
Quote from: Depotosw on June 01, 2020, 11:03:44 PM
Cannot confirm but today it operated AM and PM peak 70 Oswestry to Shrewsbury and return workings and one 400 Oswestry Town Service, Aston Way 'loop' only. Due to it's height it cannot see universal use at Oswestry due to Whittington Road bridge.
It tracks on the BusTimes.org as 'SP OS' obviously been the spare Oswestry ticketer machine https://bustimes.org/vehicles/199352 but don't be fooled as it also claims to be operating at Derby still and on the X38 today and did when it was at Tamworth as seen here! https://bustimes.org/vehicles/37832
A record shot to illustrate here from a few snapped:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/35721472@N08/49961310866
Thanks. Noticed the new displays about contactless. Quite a nice touch! Although, i'm not sure it would meet DDA requirements, as the route number etc has to be a certain size if i'm not mistaken? It looks quite hard to read.
Streetdeck 4600 FJ64 ETZ is now missing from Oswestry and is understood to have departed back to Tamworth having only operated for 7 days on peak AM and PM working on the 70 to Shrewsbury and a morning 400 Oswestry Town Service single loop during its time here. It last operated on Tuesday 9th June, DB250 4803 Y485 UGC covered for it the remainder of this week just gone.
COVID related timetable changes in Oswestry from 15th June sees the 53 to Ellesmere returned to normal service from PVR of 2, the 70 goes from a 2 hourly service to a hourly (70/70A is a 30 minute service pre COVID). The revised timetable for the 70 online now implies Shrewsbury depot may have involvement on some of the workings with a 06:42 ex SY and a PM working terminating at the SY end i.e. 50/50 operation between Oswestry and Shrewsbury depots on the 70 is suggestive, we shall however see!
A number of Scanias are getting ready for a return to service from Monday as are Pulsars 3761/2 which are now retaxed.
Solo SR, 2517 has turned up at Oswestry on loan today from Shrewsbury and appeared on the 70/70A Shrewsbury, it was tracking on bustimes as 2945, but the real 2945 was also tracking at the same time on another service. 2517 could be on loan as Solo 6005 has been VOR since Christmas Eve. Don't be fooled with 6005 showing as tracking on bustimes on the 70/70A the last week, it's really Scania 3511!
2517 only operated a single day at Oswestry and is now back at Shrewsbury, it however got to visit Oswestry again today in service but operated by Shrewsbury depot due to the following reason:
Service reductions due to covid has seen Oswestry depot are again as last summer, shared with Shrewsbury depot input, operating the 70 to Shrewsbury on a hourly basis main daytime due a little out of sync at certain times, 70A variations are suspended. Some Oswestry operated turns are been interworked with the 576 service again, i.e.do a 70 and return as a 576 and vice versa. The Arriva website has an 'incorrect' PDF uploaded and stating the 70 is 2 hourly but is confirmed as been hourly and times are correct if you view via BusTimes,org which links to the open data update.
Shrewsbury depot have operated 2517 and 2944 today over different parts of the day.
Why does the 2/2A go a weird way around Cefn Mawr and then go back to Ruabon to join the A483? Is the road to Pentre shut?
Quote from: IMarkeh on July 28, 2021, 02:58:42 AM
Why does the 2/2A go a weird way around Cefn Mawr and then go back to Ruabon to join the A483? Is the road to Pentre shut?
Yes, Google maps says the B5605 is closed across the River Dee until December.
Quote from: ellspurs on July 28, 2021, 05:15:06 PM
Yes, Google maps says the B5605 is closed across the River Dee until December.
I was looking and that didn't show up. OH well.
Thank you for your help. From December, will the 2/2A then run as per the 2C to Tesco then use the B5605 to Pentre
Quote from: IMarkeh on July 29, 2021, 06:50:19 AM
I was looking and that didn't show up. OH well.
Thank you for your help. From December, will the 2/2A then run as per the 2C to Tesco then use the B5605 to Pentre
Honestly have no idea. I would assume that they would go back to their pre-closure route. The diversion doesn't seem to be listed on Arriva's website, unless it started before April.
It's a result of a landslide at the side of Newbridge that damaged the road, awaiting repairs.
Quote from: Depotosw on August 05, 2021, 09:04:15 AM
It's a result of a landslide at the side of Newbridge that damaged the road, awaiting repairs.
Thank you for your help. Hopefully it gets repaired in the near future..
In other Oswestry Depot news, the Oswestry Town 40x routes will be ran by someone else. The 70/70A are being replaced by the X4/X5. There isn't a timetable yet that I can see but this will certainly be interesting.
This seems like a precursor to closing the Oswestry depot.
Quote from: IMarkeh on August 14, 2021, 03:04:04 AM
In other Oswestry Depot news, the Oswestry Town 40x routes will be ran by someone else. The 70/70A are being replaced by the X4/X5. There isn't a timetable yet that I can see but this will certainly be interesting.
The timetable's now up - not sure if it's just me but some of the journeys on X4/X5 now make no sense timings wise? https://api.arrivabus.co.uk/routes/services/AMN_SY_X4-AMN_SY_X5-AMN_SY_SX4-AMN_SY_SX5/210901-211111/X4-X5-Shrewsbury-to-Telford-from-01-Sep-2021.pdf
Quote from: PointerDart on August 14, 2021, 09:13:30 AM
The timetable's now up - not sure if it's just me but some of the journeys on X4/X5 now make no sense timings wise? https://api.arrivabus.co.uk/routes/services/AMN_SY_X4-AMN_SY_X5-AMN_SY_SX4-AMN_SY_SX5/210901-211111/X4-X5-Shrewsbury-to-Telford-from-01-Sep-2021.pdf
They look wrong
Quote from: Trident 4194 on August 14, 2021, 11:09:31 AM
They look wrong
Quite a bit wrong from other details I have seen and a quite bit missing, format is a mess. Oswestry depot will have a PVR of 2 on it (previously had 4 on the 70/70A) and route will also have input from Shrewsbury and Telford depots.
Quote from: IMarkeh on August 14, 2021, 03:04:04 AM
In other Oswestry Depot news, the Oswestry Town 40x routes will be ran by someone else. The 70/70A are being replaced by the X4/X5. There isn't a timetable yet that I can see but this will certainly be interesting.
Tanat Valley have gained the Town Services I gather. Arriva will continue the 401 commercially.
Quote from: Depotosw on August 15, 2021, 11:14:50 PM
Quite a bit wrong from other details I have seen and a quite bit missing, format is a mess. Oswestry depot will have a PVR of 2 on it (previously had 4 on the 70/70A) and route will also have input from Shrewsbury and Telford depots.
Much nicer timetable now available. (It is an Arriva link. Not sure why the link is so big and couldn't have been done better. If you feel safer, you can also find the link on the Arriva news page: https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/changes-to-shropshire-services)
https://cdn1-originals.webdamdb.com/13953_125688892?cache=1629287976&response-content-disposition=inline;filename=X4-X5-Shrewsbury-to-Telford.pdf&response-content-type=application/pdf&Policy=eyJTdGF0ZW1lbnQiOlt7IlJlc291cmNlIjoiaHR0cCo6Ly9jZG4xLW9yaWdpbmFscy53ZWJkYW1kYi5jb20vMTM5NTNfMTI1Njg4ODkyP2NhY2hlPTE2MjkyODc5NzYmcmVzcG9uc2UtY29udGVudC1kaXNwb3NpdGlvbj1pbmxpbmU7ZmlsZW5hbWU9WDQtWDUtU2hyZXdzYnVyeS10by1UZWxmb3JkLnBkZiZyZXNwb25zZS1jb250ZW50LXR5cGU9YXBwbGljYXRpb24vcGRmIiwiQ29uZGl0aW9uIjp7IkRhdGVMZXNzVGhhbiI6eyJBV1M6RXBvY2hUaW1lIjoyMTQ3NDE0NDAwfX19XX0_&Signature=nh52HS~9bZ9XFvkYKn9VR50F0JKEYFEp7a9TSJKizGhBYpVBj29f-PO5eBS1U8T7mEu-pbN3PHtRac69F~Oet-c0fafj0xZGwDO8uE6cKUyRLUOlpkvC9ozjwBBTffQvCDRjV2fotemxoQNprzJ9mvPHXhYbbhnvycgBJbGY9Gw~nD~8Nl-mFa2Ricc6xbyvr3Z~TT03I6-k26g9GKl-cE11CEz7YPwR2x8BTchooiyRKSfxHMR6giUZt6B22mh9sYZupFgJgD-nqXaISoHF-g2OVSnQQwQXGg5Y299M6iOHGlSale5LbDer71X4zgtrqPUvtttjNIBSnIuyL-o2Iw__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAI2ASI2IOLRFF2RHA
Quote from: Depotosw on August 15, 2021, 11:16:50 PM
Tanat Valley have gained the Town Services I gather. Arriva will continue the 401 commercially.
Arriva have retained the 405 as well - although originally told that they had lost it.
ADL E400MMC, 4545 YY67 HDL having arrived from Wigston by Saturday morning (probably Friday) on loan, with Pulsar 2, 3785 FL63 DXT going the other way, 4545 has entered use in Oswestry today. I gather its arrived to provide extra capacity on the X5 for some Shrewsbury College related workings from the due to heavy student numbers from Telford.
Today it was doing the following and will assume will be its booked trips:
06:32 X5 Oswestry to Shrewsbury, onwards as 07:35 to Telford.
08:10 X5 Telford to Shrewsbury, onwards as 09:05 to Oswestry
13:37 X5 Oswestry to Shrewsbury, onwards as 14:40 to Telford.
15:20 X5 Telford to Shrewsbury, onwards as 16:05 to Oswestry
17:07 X5 Oswestry to Shrewsbury
18:10 X5 Shrewsbury to Oswestry
Sampled a number of trips myself, was doing X4/X5 for a long planned trips on some Pulsars but obviously had a late afternoon focus on 4545. Note it currently tracks on BusTimes.org as 2987 YJ09 LBN due to ticket machine setup, also note that the real 2987 YJ09 LBN also correctly tracks!
Quick Oswestry update.
Scanias 3511/12 were removed from service by mid October and stored, noted at Shrewsbury depot, 3511 did return for a week and then departed again. No idea where they are now.
Scanias 3508/10 have been removed from service at Oswestry, after use on 4th November and 3508/10 have departed Oswestry now. 3509 is the last one standing I understand for the moment.
Versa wise, 2944 is now in service at Oswestry after moving from Shrewsbury, tracking as 2945 (oops!) on the 576 today. 2985 has returned to Oswestry after a retrim and repaint at MRC, on X4/X5 today and also tracking as 2945 (oops again!).
On loan from Wigston and now Thurmaston, E400 MMC 4545 has departed Oswestry today, B9TL, Olympus, 4106 was seen in the Salop Road yard this evening on passing by, understood as a replacement and understood to be permanent for the X5 loading issues. Due to 4106, there is a strong doubt Pulsar 3785 will be ever returning to Oswestry now.
Quote from: Depotosw on November 06, 2021, 09:45:10 PM
Quick Oswestry update.
Scanias 3511/12 were removed from service by mid October and stored, noted at Shrewsbury depot, 3511 did return for a week and then departed again. No idea where they are now.
Scanias 3508/10 have been removed from service at Oswestry, after use on 4th November and 3508/10 have departed Oswestry now. 3509 is the last one standing I understand for the moment.
Versa wise, 2944 is now in service at Oswestry after moving from Shrewsbury, tracking as 2945 (oops!) on the 576 today. 2985 has returned to Oswestry after a retrim and repaint at MRC, on X4/X5 today and also tracking as 2945 (oops again!).
On loan from Wigston and now Thurmaston, E400 MMC 4545 has departed Oswestry today, B9TL, Olympus, 4106 was seen in the Salop Road yard this evening on passing by, understood as a replacement and understood to be permanent for the X5 loading issues. Due to 4106, there is a strong doubt Pulsar 3785 will be ever returning to Oswestry now.
Oswestry is getting 4106, 4111 & 4112.
3785 will go to Telford
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2021, 07:37:02 PM
Oswestry is getting 4106, 4111 & 4112.
3785 will go to Telford
Have the Oct changes come through yet
@Tony
Quote from: BN on November 08, 2021, 08:30:12 PM
Have the Oct changes come through yet @Tony
Yes, I have just finished typing them up, long job with Wigston shutting. I haven't had chance to do the fleet list yet though
http://wmbusphotos.com/Fleetchanges/ArrivaMidlands.html
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2021, 09:02:37 PM
Yes, I have just finished typing them up, long job with Wigston shutting. I haven't had chance to do the fleet list yet though
http://wmbusphotos.com/Fleetchanges/ArrivaMidlands.html
Hinckley must be rammed!
Why will Hinckley be rammed as more have moved out than in.
Quote from: Tony on November 08, 2021, 07:37:02 PM
Oswestry is getting 4106, 4111 & 4112.
3785 will go to Telford
Yes indeed, was aware of the plans, trying to be discreet until they actually physically happen. 4106 is not in use yet, undergoing quite a bit of work to get it ready. 4803/6 are still active for the moment.
Noticed on Flickr 4111 has entered service in heritage Crosville livery
Quote from: tphi12000 on December 17, 2021, 09:51:22 PM
Noticed on Flickr 4111 has entered service in heritage Crosville livery
Arriva have sent me this photo
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/4111.html
Quote from: Tony on December 18, 2021, 02:10:40 PM
Arriva have sent me this photo
http://wmbusphotos.com/Arriva/4111.html
That looks brilliant.
With the arrival of 4111 at Oswestry, it has not yet seen off 4806, this remains on fleet strength and expected until after the New Year to coincide with its MoT expiry in January. The reason for this is understood to be with 4106 having more work been done on it, this time over at Shrewsbury, having not seen service for a few weeks now.
Been announced today Oswestry to close , operations be split between
Wrexham 2 & Shrewsbury X5 & 53
Locals to be surrendered
Also Winsford & Macclesfield closing to, no operation at all in Cheshire
Quote from: Vulcan on February 27, 2023, 10:15:58 PMBeen announced today Oswestry to close , operations be split between
Wrexham 2 & Shrewsbury X5 & 53
Locals to be surrendered
Also Winsford & Macclesfield closing to, no operation at all in Cheshire
According to a spokesperson for Arriva North West, operations in the area effected by the closure of Winsford and Macclesfield have been losing money since before the pandemic. Attempts to find a solution have failed.
D & G Bus have registered replacement services for Arriva 31, 37 & 84 currently operated from Winsford depot (which is due to close on 22nd April).
Oswestry was transferred from Crosville Wales and operated as "Cambrian Midland Red" for a number of years. There are 5 services handed back to Shropshire CC for retendering if deemed appropriate.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on March 04, 2023, 05:46:05 PMOswestry was transferred from Crosville Wales and operated as "Cambrian Midland Red" for a number of years. There are 5 services handed back to Shropshire CC for retendering if deemed appropriate.
Time to add some local related comments to Oswestry. 3 of the services are actually only school contracts (54/71/405). The 449 is a AM and PM peak only service, Monday to Friday, the 79A is a once a day short run which comes back dead and operated off the back of other routes.
Shropshire Council have given funding for the 53, alongside a number of other Shropshire routes, the 53 is planned to move to Shrewsbury depot. The 53 has suffered badly after the timetable was hacked back in April 2022, no longer catering for all the existing passenger needs and silly instances of following the 2 around Gobowen at certain times of the day, rather than the previous 30 minute ish headway there.
Despite all the PR on the closure, the 2/2A/2C are good money making services, the X5 was increasing revenue after seeing numbers returning, despite the X4 cuts in April 2022. The issue is Oswestry garage rent has been increasing with subsequent increases over the last five years. The loss of the 576 wasn't ideal either late 2022.
There is a common member of management now between Midlands and North West, i.e. the engineering director title on internal notice for possible closure 'Engineering Director (ANW&W & Midlands)'. Many of the staff I've spoken to believe they feel there is an opportunity to now for Arriva to cut the overhead of Oswestry's premises, make Wrexham more profitable with the 2/2A/2C and Shrewsbury with the X5 and 53.
And despite Shrewsbury depot managing decline more than Oswestry in recent years it continues, helped with dedicated and modern premises unlike the makeshift rented premises at Oswestry.
Is there a set date for when Oswestry closes?
Quote from: Fin W on April 23, 2023, 04:20:51 PMIs there a set date for when Oswestry closes?
2nd July is the proposed date at the moment driving staff have been informed, which may mean after operations complete on 1st July.
The plan is:
Contracts (mainly schools) pass to new operators 8th May, i.e. 54/71/79A and 405 to Tanat Valley. 449 should have passed on this date but already passed to Lakeside 17th April.
X5/10, 53 all move to Shrewsbuey depot on 8th May.
Wrexham 2/2A/2C services to pass to Arriva Cymru, Wrexham depot on 2nd July onwards its mentioned.
2s will be the only routes ran from Oswestry after the 8th may then?
Quote from: Fin W on April 23, 2023, 07:25:04 PM2s will be the only routes ran from Oswestry after the 8th may then?
Yes. That's what it looks like.
Interesting, thanks for the info both 👍
I have read online somewhere that Arriva closed its Owestry garage at the start of July. Can anyone confirm the date?
Oswestry closed completely on 2/7 only services retained were Shrewsbury & Wrexham both now operated by those garages.
All local work surrendered now with local operators
Thanks for the confirmation.
@winston @Tony Could this thread be archived now that Oswestry depot no longer exists?
Why? Someone may want to post some subsequent history of vehicles or what's happening to the site
Quote from: Tony on December 16, 2023, 04:01:24 PMWhy? Someone may want to post some subsequent history of vehicles or what's happening to the site
Well I mentioned it because I remember the DeCourcey thread was archived after there demise
Quote from: hlliwmai on December 16, 2023, 04:15:24 PMWell I mentioned it because I remember the DeCourcey thread was archived after there demise
I unpinned this topic, but it can stay here in the Arriva board, for the reasons that Tony mentioned.
There wasn't a DeCourcey 'thread', I moved their board under the 'Other Operators' board, it's not been 'archived'.