As an opposite of the Hall Of Fame, post here for buses of which deserve to be singled out as the worst thing going. May it be, poor bodywork, slowest pull off, lowest top-speed, slowest doors, most uncomfortable, anything bad basically.
As usual, I'll have a stab at going first.
NXWM 4181 - Slowest operating doors. / Worst Applied nearside logo.(https://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/twm4181.140215.jpg)
©All Copyrights to @Tony - http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4181.htmlSo annoying when trying to board this vehicle as the doors slowly creak open. Also very badly applied nearside logo.
If certain "defects" get repaired and the poster has travelled on the said bus in the past, then the aforementioned vehicle can be removed from the Hall Of Shame.
RIP* VIP - Most of the VIP fleet. Poor state of repair.
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2921.0;attach=820;image)
* Removed in perpetuity - hopefully!
The Green Bus 121 - banned from the Hagley services for being unable to make it up the Hagley mile!
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5487/14127864449_535cc4a309.jpg)
Optare Solo SR 20014 - loudest and slowest Optare, if not bus, around Solihull, due to the constant running of the cooling fan
(https://wmbusphotos.com/centralConnect/bcc10014.100709.jpg)
4529 - for not having a rear dot matrix blind even fitted (if you look closely, the blind isn't broken, there isn't one in there)
2102 - for (currently) being the only PE B7RLE to have that god awful super-X display installed
@Sh4318 super x looks smart on the right setting!
@the trainbasher Not on the 120E, it looked horrible ::)
@Sh4318 that's why I said when it's on the right setting it's alright
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/124992026@N08/14127442639/in/photolist-nsS3wS-8TnN2M-jbKGPw-nbDMNm-nnEQWZ-kWWzDU-fMh2eN-nwoQve)
4253 - for being the tattiest bus in the whole fleet in NX livery. You can't see it that well in this picture but virtually every upstairs window is covered in etchings, the paintwork has been scraped off all over the place and is fading, the seat covers are still the TWM ones and they're worn and dirty, and it still has the connection bars.
Quote from: JB93 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
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4253 - for being the tattiest bus in the whole fleet in NX livery. You can't see it that well in this picture but virtually every upstairs window is covered in etchings, the paintwork has been scraped off all over the place and is fading, the seat covers are still the TWM ones and they're worn and dirty, and it still has the connection bars.
Awfully slow as well!
Quote from: JB93 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
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4253 - for being the tattiest bus in the whole fleet in NX livery. You can't see it that well in this picture but virtually every upstairs window is covered in etchings, the paintwork has been scraped off all over the place and is fading, the seat covers are still the TWM ones and they're worn and dirty, and it still has the connection bars.
It's certainly not the only one either. There are a few on here that could do with a couple of trips on vehicles like 4253, people who think that NX don't operate vehicles in this condition and would knock spots off other operators if they miraculously popped up in their territory.
Quote from: andy on July 28, 2014, 06:59:49 PM
Quote from: JB93 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
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4253 - for being the tattiest bus in the whole fleet in NX livery. You can't see it that well in this picture but virtually every upstairs window is covered in etchings, the paintwork has been scraped off all over the place and is fading, the seat covers are still the TWM ones and they're worn and dirty, and it still has the connection bars.
It's certainly not the only one either. There are a few on here that could do with a couple of trips on vehicles like 4253, people who think that NX don't operate vehicles in this condition and would knock spots off other operators if they miraculously popped up in their territory.
A Couple of West Bromwich's 47xx are heading that way.
To be fair to BC they have some with tatty external appearance, 4173 I had yesterday on the 56 & 70 was one
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4173.html
but they had replaced all the worn seat cushions with ones freshly recovered in the original moquette. Some of the backs had threadbare bits on them but at least where you bum went looked clean and was as well padded as the seat should be, and all patterns matched even if the cushions looked newer and were much darker
Quote from: Tony on July 28, 2014, 07:10:09 PM
Quote from: andy on July 28, 2014, 06:59:49 PM
Quote from: JB93 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
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4253 - for being the tattiest bus in the whole fleet in NX livery. You can't see it that well in this picture but virtually every upstairs window is covered in etchings, the paintwork has been scraped off all over the place and is fading, the seat covers are still the TWM ones and they're worn and dirty, and it still has the connection bars.
It's certainly not the only one either. There are a few on here that could do with a couple of trips on vehicles like 4253, people who think that NX don't operate vehicles in this condition and would knock spots off other operators if they miraculously popped up in their territory.
A Couple of West Bromwich's 47xx are heading that way.
To be fair to BC they have some with tatty external appearance, 4173 I had yesterday on the 56 & 70 was one
http://wmbusphotos.com/NXWM/4001-4224/4173.html
but they had replaced all the worn seat cushions with ones freshly recovered in the original moquette. Some of the backs had threadbare bits on them but at least where you bum went looked clean and was as well padded as the seat should be, and all patterns matched even if the cushions looked newer and were much darker
Not sure if they've been replaced, but one thing i've noticed are the front flipdot displays slightly 'effed' up. If you know what I mean...
Quote from: JB93 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
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4253 - for being the tattiest bus in the whole fleet in NX livery. You can't see it that well in this picture but virtually every upstairs window is covered in etchings, the paintwork has been scraped off all over the place and is fading, the seat covers are still the TWM ones and they're worn and dirty, and it still has the connection bars.
4253 was painted during the connection bar era like many alx400's which at that time weren't getting new trim either. On the subject of etching, somebody please clean up all of west broms 53 plate gemini's which at the minute are scruffier than the soho road branded alx's
Quote from: nitromatt1 on May 31, 2014, 08:33:50 PM
The Green Bus 121 - banned from the Hagley services for being unable to make it up the Hagley mile!
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5487/14127864449_535cc4a309.jpg)
You can't polish a turd, eh Matt?!
Dodgy engine and gearbox
You can't polish a turd...
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 18, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
You can't polish a turd...
Its a showpiece bus, not a school bus. Plus ex London stock of that age is dreadful Imo anyway
Quote from: Ashley on August 18, 2014, 09:21:07 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 18, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
You can't polish a turd...
Its a showpiece bus, not a school bus. Plus ex London stock of that age is dreadful Imo anyway
I've worked for London Buses and found that most displaced vehicles to be very serviceable. That said, you'd question which dipstick at Greenbus bought it in the first place without checking these things.
If it's a mechanically dodgy bus, WHY use this as a showbus and open yourself up to ridicule???
You STILL can't polish a turd!
if its that bad surely it could be sorted out i.e replace engine etc?
4741 for being the most slowest and stinkiest enviro when I was on it.
Quote from: Wumpty on August 19, 2014, 01:16:47 PM
Quote from: Ashley on August 18, 2014, 09:21:07 PM
Quote from: the trainbasher on August 18, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
You can't polish a turd...
Its a showpiece bus, not a school bus. Plus ex London stock of that age is dreadful Imo anyway
I've worked for London Buses and found that most displaced vehicles to be very serviceable. That said, you'd question which dipstick at Greenbus bought it in the first place without checking these things.
If it's a mechanically dodgy bus, WHY use this as a showbus and open yourself up to ridicule???
You STILL can't polish a turd!
The engine may be a turd since it doesn't really sound appealing but the bodywork is nice!
Thought I'd give this a kick start again!
One of the worst journeys home from work I have ever had! Whilst stood outside, I looked at my phone and saw that the 766 is late and immediately thought "Typical, probably 3620late (nickname for 36208) again!" Nope but I was close! Sister Ex-Rugby scrap heap 36207 turned up and slowly made its way to Atherstone where I swapped for the 48 to be greeted by the actual shed 36208 which I don't think I've ever witnessed be on time anywhere ever, I even have a picture of one of my tickets from it being just under 15 minutes late at 6am...
Let's just say that 36208's speedo isn't measured in MPH, it's measured in MPCM (Miles Per Calendar Month), you could bleed to death from a papercut before it's finished pulling off! It's heaters have 4 settings: "Cold, Colder, F**king Freezing or Liquid Nitrogen"! It rattles like a hand grenade in a tumble dryer and more annoyingly, it follows me on whatever Stagecoach Nuneaton route I go on, regardless of what vehicles are normally allocated to said route! There was one week where I guess I would have it to/from work, got it correct then had it on my work route 5 days running, guessed that for my days off that it would all of a sudden go on my local routes and guess what turned up on my local routes the very next day? Ohhh yes! Late as usual.
It's that predictable a bus that as soon as my route is late, I now automatically know I have it, because MAN Enviro 200s (what are normally on my local routes) have that much more power that they don't run late anywhere near as often. The amount of times I've guessed I will have it and got it right is actually unbelievable, and if it's not 208, it's less awful but still awful 207! They should have packed these sheds off to Northampton and let us keep our powerful MAN E200s so that the reliability of Nuneaton's services didn't plunge down the s**tter!
The driver seen getting seated in 36207 knows only too well how horrid they are, as whenever I see him in either of them, I ask "Are you having fun with this s**t heap?". Another quote from me is when he opened his window on a freezing cold day "Oh, putting the heating on?".
I could keep this rant up all night but I can't be bothered as I have to catch 36208 at 04:32 and again at 16:20...
Here are the two scrap heaps in a rare (awful mobile phone) picture together, 2 ex-Rugby sheds side by side on Nuneaton routes:
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I think 4851 should be added to the Hall of Shame because it keeps stalking me! Also 4938 due to it's broken gearbox.
I know it has been withdrawn for well over a year but 1654. Absolutely diabolical bus! No more needs to be said.
Quote from: Matt on April 10, 2015, 02:14:10 PM
Diamond 30942...doors take forever to close, and there is a constant loud BEEEEEEEEP if you pull away before they are fully closed.
Same as on any other eclipse 2...
Quote from: DiamondDart on April 10, 2015, 02:24:44 PM
Same as on any other eclipse 2...
I Was going to say there all like that.
Shall we add to the hall of shame:
7005, 7006, 7011, 7013 all with their fans screaming their t**s off the whole day they are out in service in Dundee.
7127 has a little whistle while its out.
7169 sounds more like an Ailsa that a B10BLE.
Most of the NED fleet are, bodywork wise, in a reasonable condition, although several (including 2043 and a couple of Geminis) are missing fleetnames thanks to replacement panels and lazy bodybuilders.
4695 is the most shabby, noisy, Volvo Gemini 1 in Coventry, if not, the whole National Express Gemini fleet!. It also has the worst fleet number sticker ever at the front!
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.421180621387210.1073741986.369276339910972&type=3
You obviously haven't seen 4421 which is noisier than 4695 and the lower panel paintwork is in an appalling state!
They're both as bad as eachother!
4692 is an appalling Gemini! Cooling fan lately seems to be stuck on (since mid august) and the fleet number on one side is black and looks out of place! Also, the TV screen is missing from downstairs, even though none of them work on any of the geminis anyway!
Diamond YJ61CHK...
TOP SPEED OF 15MPH! How fast!Sorry for the crap photo, the driver all ready looked bothered enough!!
(//)
Quote from: bensweeney14 on January 27, 2016, 09:44:23 PM
Diamond YJ61CHK...
TOP SPEED OF 15MPH! How fast!Sorry for the crap photo, the driver all ready looked bothered enough!!
(//)
Had the pleasure of running dead from Coventry in it last night! Made even better with the constant beeping!
Quote from: Matt.N0056 on January 28, 2016, 11:40:41 AM
Had the pleasure of running dead from Coventry in it last night! Made even better with the constant beeping!
Nice to hear they have sorted it out, NOT! I even emailed them and its been sorted apparently!
A video I grabbed of it - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBraGzMQbFs
Still beeping this morning when moving stopped when stationary when the doors were open. The only thing that didn't was the ticket machine when I put my Swiftcard on it!
Parked at church road this evening, hopefully being sorted!
It only bleeps when moving as it thinks the doors are still open
Perry Barr's 4278 I am adding to the Hall Of Shame for very loud brakes! This one used to be a good one, however the brakes on it are too loud and my ears hurt after I got off!
4416 is joining this list for its mysterious squeaking noise when steering the vehicle. I weren't entirely sure on what was happening at first. Hopefully it is fixed some time in the near future as otherwise it isn't that bad a bus.
PB's 4237 as it has the worst paintwork in the NX fleet (wonky logos, missing connection bars and offstandard fleetnumbers). Not to forget how awful it is inside, mixed seat cushions all over the place.
Of late there have been lot of rail replacement buses knocking about at new st,Galton bridge, it seems like loads of bus companies are involved, TGB,centr,nx stuff looks good , then I noticed an ex first bus plaxton trident looks like it's never seen a refurb well tired even the engine door cover is held using shed door hinges I Kidd you not and there's a burgundy,cream Alexander ALX 400 trident what a mess, I got up close to see the legal writing coastal liner,then I thought yeap these opperate crap.
To the enthusiasts New st station on the evenings good place to see oddball buses.
5514's brakes are really loud! Think it's the brakes rubbing together or something but sure is highly annoying after a while!
Quote from: JB93 on July 28, 2014, 07:41:42 AM
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4253 - for being the tattiest bus in the whole fleet in NX livery. You can't see it that well in this picture but virtually every upstairs window is covered in etchings, the paintwork has been scraped off all over the place and is fading, the seat covers are still the TWM ones and they're worn and dirty, and it still has the connection bars.
Now it's one of the nicest interiors that any B7TL ALX in the fleet has! 😂
West Brom's Platinums with there stupidly LOUD cooling fans utter nitemare to drive, 6972 6976 6982 are a few of them, engineers answer to solving there great many problems is to run the coolant fans permanently, nice fix chaps. i wonder what the reading on a decibel meter would be, i bet well over acceptable levels.
Quote from: 2900 on August 25, 2023, 09:14:00 AMWest Brom's Platinums with there stupidly LOUD cooling fans utter nitemare to drive, 6972 6976 6982 are a few of them, engineers answer to solving there great many problems is to run the coolant fans permanently, nice fix chaps. i wonder what the reading on a decibel meter would be, i bet well over acceptable levels.
I think 6972 stopped now 6974 is a really loud one and 6985 is a loud one
4509 - one of the loudest and worst-looking buses in the fleet.