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Centro Tenders 27th October

Started by notepanel, September 06, 2013, 05:59:38 PM

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notepanel

Quite a few changes appear to be occurring on 27th October due to Tender changes. There seems to be a lot of potential withdrawals and not a lot of registrations yet (although WMSNT don't appear to be mentioned yet!).

Registrations on VOSA today are...

*327 - Arriva -  Cancelled
*610 - Arriva - Cancelled
*298/299 - Arriva - Cancelled
*288 - Arriva - Cancelled (Confirmed in Birmingham Mail as passing to WMSNT)
*282 - Arriva - Cancelled
*80 - Arriva - Cancelled (Registered today by Diamond)
*224 - Arriva - Cancelled
*19 - Diamond - Cancelled
*44 - Diamond - Cancelled
*140 - Diamond - Cancelled
*22 - Diamond - Cancelled
*64 - Diamond - Cancelled
*287 - Diamond - Cancelled
*53 - Diamond - Cancelled
*240 - Diamond - Cancelled
*24 - Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Central Buses - Cancelled
*75 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled


Other registrations include...
Diamond on the 647, 243 & 124
Central Buses on the 30 (West Brom - Great Bridge)
Arriva Midlands on the new 310 (Willenhall - Merry Hill)

Trident 4609

I believe the Diamond 140 sunday morning journies are being taken over by NXWM

nitromatt1

Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 06:08:06 PM
I believe the Diamond 140 sunday morning journies are being taken over by NXWM

Yes that's correct. Must get round to riding a Diamond 140 one Sunday!

Trident 4609

Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 06, 2013, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 06:08:06 PM
I believe the Diamond 140 sunday morning journies are being taken over by NXWM

Yes that's correct. Must get round to riding a Diamond 140 one Sunday!

I know its correct ;)

notepanel

There are several NXWM amendments from that date, including the 140.

On VOSA one route registered number 22 Walsall - Willenhall via New Invention is being withdrawn by Diamond. I believe this is actually the 41. The most logical company to take over would be NXWM, but they have no amendments registered on this route (they do on the 8/89, 997 & 10 in the Walsall area), and Arriva haven't registered the route. Does anybody know if this is actually the 41 and if it is being replaced?


Tony

Quote from: notepanel on September 06, 2013, 05:59:38 PM
Quite a few changes appear to be occurring on 27th October due to Tender changes. There seems to be a lot of potential withdrawals and not a lot of registrations yet (although WMSNT don't appear to be mentioned yet!).

Registrations on VOSA today are...

*327 - Arriva -  Cancelled
*610 - Arriva - Cancelled
*298/299 - Arriva - Cancelled
*288 - Arriva - Cancelled (Confirmed in Birmingham Mail as passing to WMSNT)
*282 - Arriva - Cancelled
*80 - Arriva - Cancelled (Registered today by Diamond)
*224 - Arriva - Cancelled
*19 - Diamond - Cancelled
*44 - Diamond - Cancelled
*140 - Diamond - Cancelled
*22 - Diamond - Cancelled
*64 - Diamond - Cancelled
*287 - Diamond - Cancelled
*53 - Diamond - Cancelled
*240 - Diamond - Cancelled
*24 - Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Central Buses - Cancelled
*75 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled


Other registrations include...
Diamond on the 647, 243 & 124
Central Buses on the 30 (West Brom - Great Bridge)
Arriva Midlands on the new 310 (Willenhall - Merry Hill)

19 is going to WNSNT, 4 brand new Solo SRs I believe for it

nitromatt1

Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 06:15:33 PM
Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 06, 2013, 06:09:56 PM
Quote from: Trident 4609 on September 06, 2013, 06:08:06 PM
I believe the Diamond 140 sunday morning journies are being taken over by NXWM

Yes that's correct. Must get round to riding a Diamond 140 one Sunday!

I know its correct ;)

Oh you sounded like you were unsure. Only trying to help :)

notepanel

Quote from: Tony on September 06, 2013, 06:16:40 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 06, 2013, 05:59:38 PM
Quite a few changes appear to be occurring on 27th October due to Tender changes. There seems to be a lot of potential withdrawals and not a lot of registrations yet (although WMSNT don't appear to be mentioned yet!).

Registrations on VOSA today are...

*327 - Arriva -  Cancelled
*610 - Arriva - Cancelled
*298/299 - Arriva - Cancelled
*288 - Arriva - Cancelled (Confirmed in Birmingham Mail as passing to WMSNT)
*282 - Arriva - Cancelled
*80 - Arriva - Cancelled (Registered today by Diamond)
*224 - Arriva - Cancelled
*19 - Diamond - Cancelled
*44 - Diamond - Cancelled
*140 - Diamond - Cancelled
*22 - Diamond - Cancelled
*64 - Diamond - Cancelled
*287 - Diamond - Cancelled
*53 - Diamond - Cancelled
*240 - Diamond - Cancelled
*24 - Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Central Buses - Cancelled
*75 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled


Other registrations include...
Diamond on the 647, 243 & 124
Central Buses on the 30 (West Brom - Great Bridge)
Arriva Midlands on the new 310 (Willenhall - Merry Hill)

19 is going to WNSNT, 4 brand new Solo SRs I believe for it

Which of the three 19's changing is that Tony please!?

Tony

Quote from: notepanel on September 06, 2013, 06:18:30 PM
Quote from: Tony on September 06, 2013, 06:16:40 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 06, 2013, 05:59:38 PM
Quite a few changes appear to be occurring on 27th October due to Tender changes. There seems to be a lot of potential withdrawals and not a lot of registrations yet (although WMSNT don't appear to be mentioned yet!).

Registrations on VOSA today are...

*327 - Arriva -  Cancelled
*610 - Arriva - Cancelled
*298/299 - Arriva - Cancelled
*288 - Arriva - Cancelled (Confirmed in Birmingham Mail as passing to WMSNT)
*282 - Arriva - Cancelled
*80 - Arriva - Cancelled (Registered today by Diamond)
*224 - Arriva - Cancelled
*19 - Diamond - Cancelled
*44 - Diamond - Cancelled
*140 - Diamond - Cancelled
*22 - Diamond - Cancelled
*64 - Diamond - Cancelled
*287 - Diamond - Cancelled
*53 - Diamond - Cancelled
*240 - Diamond - Cancelled
*24 - Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Central Buses - Cancelled
*75 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled


Other registrations include...
Diamond on the 647, 243 & 124
Central Buses on the 30 (West Brom - Great Bridge)
Arriva Midlands on the new 310 (Willenhall - Merry Hill)

19 is going to WNSNT, 4 brand new Solo SRs I believe for it

Which of the three 19's changing is that Tony please!?

The Cotteridge one

Jay

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John


nitromatt1

Quote from: John on September 06, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 06, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 06, 2013, 05:59:38 PM

*24 - Diamond - Cancelled


which 24?

The Dudley 24 I guess. as Diamond only run on that one

According to the NWM site Diamond run on a 24 in Walsall

John

Quote from: nitromatt1 on September 06, 2013, 06:27:00 PM
Quote from: John on September 06, 2013, 06:25:14 PM
Quote from: Jon on September 06, 2013, 06:22:55 PM
Quote from: notepanel on September 06, 2013, 05:59:38 PM

*24 - Diamond - Cancelled


which 24?

The Dudley 24 I guess. as Diamond only run on that one

According to the NWM site Diamond run on a 24 in Walsall

Never heard of that one, Thanks Matt  :)

Will it be that one (Walsall Wood - Brownhills), or the Dudley 24

PM

Quote from: notepanel on September 06, 2013, 05:59:38 PM
Quite a few changes appear to be occurring on 27th October due to Tender changes. There seems to be a lot of potential withdrawals and not a lot of registrations yet (although WMSNT don't appear to be mentioned yet!).

Registrations on VOSA today are...

*327 - Arriva -  Cancelled
*610 - Arriva - Cancelled
*298/299 - Arriva - Cancelled
*288 - Arriva - Cancelled (Confirmed in Birmingham Mail as passing to WMSNT)
*282 - Arriva - Cancelled
*80 - Arriva - Cancelled (Registered today by Diamond)
*224 - Arriva - Cancelled
*19 - Diamond - Cancelled
*44 - Diamond - Cancelled
*140 - Diamond - Cancelled
*22 - Diamond - Cancelled
*64 - Diamond - Cancelled
*287 - Diamond - Cancelled
*53 - Diamond - Cancelled
*240 - Diamond - Cancelled
*24 - Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Central Buses - Cancelled
*75 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled
*19 - Blue Diamond - Cancelled


Other registrations include...
Diamond on the 647, 243 & 124
Central Buses on the 30 (West Brom - Great Bridge)
Arriva Midlands on the new 310 (Willenhall - Merry Hill)

That is a lot of tender losses for diamond and no wonder that fleet requirements will be assessed after this. In many ways, I think this will reduce even more the number of smaller buses in the fleet so now is the time to try to get shot of a load of mpds and primos

Ash

#14
I think Simon mentioned before that the 4/4H/4M service is being considered and may be some changes may occur when I mentioned about the sunday services hopefully these will be reinstated in the coming months.

Also the problem with losing so many tenders is that there will be less work for drivers so either more commercial work has to be taken on or drivers are moved elsewhere in the business or made redundant.

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