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Title: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: Wolves256 on November 23, 2017, 03:58:09 PM
There is a news update in One magazine that First will only buy 180 new buses in this fiscal year
To my knowledge the only new buses delivered to date are to Bristol, E400MMC Scalia
Also it looks like there will be further retrenchment before a march 18
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: Wolves256 on November 23, 2017, 04:01:46 PM
http://www.route-one.net/articles/Finance/%C2%A0Changes_coming_to_First_as_investment_cut
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: DeanM66A on November 23, 2017, 04:09:51 PM
Quote from: Wolves256 on November 23, 2017, 04:01:46 PM
http://www.route-one.net/articles/Finance/%C2%A0Changes_coming_to_First_as_investment_cut
"particularly in the north and Scotland", the article concludes.

So where are First? 
Aberdeen, Glasgow, Falkirk, Manchester, York, Sheffield, Leeds.

I expect the speculation has already begun.
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: markcf83 on November 23, 2017, 05:04:22 PM
Leeds are expecting in excess of thirty Streetdecks for City services and Glasgow are reported to be getting a delivery-unknown total-of Enviros.
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: winston on November 23, 2017, 05:11:28 PM
Quote from: markcf83 on November 23, 2017, 05:04:22 PM
Leeds are expecting in excess of thirty Streetdecks for City services and Glasgow are reported to be getting a delivery-unknown total-of Enviros.

York have new buses due for the Park & Ride contract as well.

I suspect First Manchester must be a dodgy ground
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: Dylanbusboy45 on November 23, 2017, 06:52:40 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 23, 2017, 05:11:28 PM
York have new buses due for the Park & Ride contract as well.

I suspect First Manchester must be a dodgy ground

Yes York are getting new Bendy Citaros and I think 4 Optare Metrodeckers. There was an article in Buses Magazine a few months ago which had details of new buses for York next year, it may have said about some new E400MMCs as well but I can't quite remember
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: markcf83 on November 24, 2017, 04:05:10 PM
Quote from: Winston on November 23, 2017, 05:11:28 PM
York have new buses due for the Park & Ride contract as well.

I suspect First Manchester must be a dodgy ground

Forgot about those. From memory Bristol are due some more too.
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: winston on November 24, 2017, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: markcf83 on November 24, 2017, 04:05:10 PM
Forgot about those. From memory Bristol are due some more too.

Not sure on Bristol, but Kernow are still due 10 x ADL E400MMC's instead of 21 quoted previously
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: markcf83 on November 24, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
Bristol are expecting Enviro 200MMC's for the Airport service,about a dozen I heard.
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: winston on November 24, 2017, 05:44:24 PM
Quote from: markcf83 on November 24, 2017, 05:41:26 PM
Bristol are expecting Enviro 200MMC's for the Airport service,about a dozen I heard.

Yes, forgot about those, that quantity sounds about right. I think they've had most/if not all of the deckers they were due at present
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: markcf83 on November 24, 2017, 07:39:27 PM
They're all in use in Bristol mostly but a few are in Bath currently.
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: winston on November 25, 2017, 08:51:38 PM
Quote from: markcf83 on November 24, 2017, 07:39:27 PM
They're all in use in Bristol mostly but a few are in Bath currently.

Bristol are currently receiving 9 x E400MMC's for the U1
http://www.swhite.org.uk/steve/11.htm
Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: amodelofcontrol on November 26, 2017, 12:03:28 PM
Collated from various places, this is what I've got, that - if we exclude the Aircoach vehicles - appears to add up to 180.

24 Scania/ADL E400 MMC (Bristol - delivered as 36801-24)
1 Scania bio-gas/ADL E400 City (Bristol - delivered as 39401)
12 Scania/ADL E400 City (Bristol - Airport services)
3 ADL E200 MMC (Bristol - Airport services) 
9 ADL E400 MMC (Bristol - Unibus)
25 ADL E400 MMC (Glasgow - Scottish GBF funded)
36 StreetDeck (Leeds - due at the turn of the year)
27 new electric vehicles - 21 DD/6 SD (York P&R)
24 StreetLite (Sheffield)
9 ADL E200 MMC (Cornwall) 
10 ADL E400 MMC (Cornwall)
7 Volvo/Plaxton (Aircoach)

Title: Re: First Bus New Bus Order 2017/8
Post by: Roy on November 27, 2017, 12:34:06 PM
Quote from: amodelofcontrol on November 26, 2017, 12:03:28 PM
9 ADL E400 MMC (Bristol - Unibus)

These 9 buses are currently being delivered as 33491-99