Birmingham Mail has some CGI images of how the extension to Edgbaston Five Ways will look:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-new-tram-edgbaston-look-13560219#ICID=nsm
Preliminary ground works are already underway, which has seen the removals of both the Iron Man from Victoria Square, and the Boulton/Watt/Murdoch statue from Broad Street, and the extension should be up and running by 2021.
I thought they were building the extension to Centenary Square first, with Edgbaston later. This seems to say it will all be done in one go.
Quote from: Stu on September 02, 2017, 10:25:33 AM
Birmingham Mail has some CGI images of how the extension to Edgbaston Five Ways will look:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/how-new-tram-edgbaston-look-13560219#ICID=nsm
Preliminary ground works are already underway, which has seen the removals of both the Iron Man from Victoria Square, and the Boulton/Watt/Murdoch statue from Broad Street, and the extension should be up and running by 2021.
When the Metro starts using Broad Street, will buses still be using it ?
Sadly another waste of money when you have got buses that run down that route
Quote from: mark114 on October 16, 2017, 10:42:19 AM
Sadly another waste of money when you have got buses that run down that route
Not many buses from Broad Street to Handsworth, Bilston or Wednesbury
Track now down in Paradise Street alongside the Town Hall.
Here's a question?
I seem to recall there was various extensions mentioned, besides the Merry Hill / Dudley & Five Ways, there was one to Digbeth as well.
When these extensions are up & running, could you do theoretically do the following journeys without changing trams, or would you need to change trams on route somewhere?
Merry Hill to Digbeth.
Merry Hill to Wolves
Merry Hill to Five Ways
Wolves to Digbeth
Quote from: Tony on October 16, 2017, 10:50:39 AM
Not many buses from Broad Street to Handsworth, Bilston or Wednesbury
Will the extra revenue justify spending (initially) £169m? If someone had proposed extending the 74 to the Monument Road area increasing the PVR by three or four, it would probably have been deemed nonviable. Yes, the tram will not suffer congestion at Five Ways, but can the same be said for all the buses from all the other destinations which will have to wait at the traffic lights as the tram sails nonchalantly through?
Quote from: Tiptonian on February 25, 2019, 02:21:00 PM
Will the extra revenue justify spending (initially) £169m? If someone had proposed extending the 74 to the Monument Road area increasing the PVR by three or four, it would probably have been deemed nonviable. Yes, the tram will not suffer congestion at Five Ways, but can the same be said for all the buses from all the other destinations which will have to wait at the traffic lights as the tram sails nonchalantly through?
Five ways is choker on week nights so can see trams having a slight delay
Update on the Edgbaston extension:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/look-west-midlands-metro-tram-17817720
Looking good so far.
Quote from: Busboy105 on February 27, 2020, 10:47:27 AM
Update on the Edgbaston extension:
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/look-west-midlands-metro-tram-17817720
Looking good so far.
Yea, I passed over it last Saturday on my way to Merry Hill from the Bull Ring, and it was a lot further along than what I thought it would be.
I am also going to (rarely) praise the detail in the Birmingham Mail article. Normally they only go into that much detail if it's a sponsored post.
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/news/birmingham-westside-metro-extension-achieves-major-milestone-with-biggest-concrete-pour/
This is interesting. Could this mean that the extension could be finished ahead of schedule like the Grand Central-Centenary Square extension?
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 26, 2020, 11:02:17 AM
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/news/birmingham-westside-metro-extension-achieves-major-milestone-with-biggest-concrete-pour/
This is interesting. Could this mean that the extension could be finished ahead of schedule like the Grand Central-Centenary Square extension?
I think it highly unlikely the extension would open ahead of schedule. The railway inspectorate inspections and signing off always take the time at the end of a project. Most regulatory bodies have been badly hid by Covid-19 & although a very positive & well written article from TfWM lets not forget The Mayor spins better than Wonder Woman just without the gold , blue & red leather costume.
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on June 26, 2020, 11:19:35 AM
I think it highly unlikely the extension would open ahead of schedule. The railway inspectorate inspections and signing off always take the time at the end of a project. Most regulatory bodies have been badly hid by Covid-19 & although a very positive & well written article from TfWM lets not forget The Mayor spins better than Wonder Woman just without the gold , blue & red leather costume.
Ok. I don't get the Wonder Woman analogy though.
Quote from: Busboy105 on June 26, 2020, 11:32:13 AM
Ok. I don't get the Wonder Woman analogy though.
Articles such as the one quoted for elected politicians are normally drafted by "spin-doctors" . They are constructed to make the politician involved to be seen in the most positive light. The press release as thus spun. Lynda Carter has to spin round to turn into Wonder Woman conversely Andy Street needs spin to be The Wonder Mayor of The West Midlands Combined Authority just a play on words. In my long career I have yet to ever see a politician pass a mirror without looking in it!
Quote from: WyreForestShuttle on June 26, 2020, 11:48:23 AM
Articles such as the one quoted for elected politicians are normally drafted by "spin-doctors" . They are constructed to make the politician involved to be seen in the most positive light. The press release as thus spun. Lynda Carter has to spin round to turn into Wonder Woman conversely Andy Street needs spin to be The Wonder Mayor of The West Midlands Combined Authority just a play on words. In my long career I have yet to ever see a politician pass a mirror without looking in it!
Didn't know that. Politicians are probably the most self-centred people on the planet.
I walked the Edgbaston line today. Most of the track is down from Library to the underpass. See my Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100009314859343
Hope the line opens fully by easter 2021.
Five ways underpass looks to be nearly finished with concrete blocks separating the flow of traffic put in just morrisons to the interchange section to finish off
cannot wait till it gets to Morrisons be easier to get to work as the terminus is around the corner from work.
in the end i think buses will be pushed out of the city, to give trams priority, in my opinion the tram is a waste of time and money close Broad St to let the tram have exclusive access, put it under five ways then rejoin road traffic to Morrisons (what a joke) Hagley Rd cant cope now during peak periods, with a tram in the middle it will be a nightmare, talk about extending the tram via Hagley Rd is an even bigger joke, i have never been a fan of the tram, and even less so now, to the point ive only ridden in 3 times, and NOT since the extensions, i know it wont make any difference losing one fare, but its my protest, Electric / Hybrid / Hydrogen Buses im fully in favour of, but the tram ? are we not in danger of going backwards to the 50's ?
Quote from: SUNDAY.BASH on February 17, 2021, 02:33:07 PM
in the end i think buses will be pushed out of the city, to give trams priority, in my opinion the tram is a waste of time and money close Broad St to let the tram have exclusive access
The buses will be returning to Broad Street sooner or later. There is a bus interchange with bus stops at Centenary Square outside the Library. The bus stops have been in place for about 2 years now. So they will be operating alongside the tram.
Wander if AG 1 will be extended to run up to Centenary Square as well like it used to, when it reopens.
Quote from: 2206 on February 17, 2021, 04:03:17 PM
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Wander if AG 1 will be extended to run up to Centenary Square as well like it used to, when it reopens.
If anything perhaps a short extension to loop round to the other side of Morissons to connect with the tram, but really doubt it'd extend back into the city centre proper
Quote from: Kevin on February 17, 2021, 07:45:48 PM
If anything perhaps a short extension to loop round to the other side of Morissons to connect with the tram, but really doubt it'd extend back into the city centre proper
Sounds like a good idea, to provide a link with the tram at Five Ways if it doesn't go back to Centenary Square.
Could even serve that bit of the Hagley Road and and then go up to Ladywood, Monument Road and turn round there. Then it could connect with the Tram/Buses into Town on the Hagley Road and X20/X21/X22 to the QE/Uni at Edgbaston Old Church etc and would give that road a far more frequent service than the 25.
These recent posts are in the wrong place as the Eastside extension is the one to Curzpn Street and Digbeth.
Quote from: Stevo on February 18, 2021, 09:23:48 AM
These recent posts are in the wrong place as the Eastside extension is the one to Curzpn Street and Digbeth.
Yes, I noticed too, posts split off and merged with this one.
Can I please remind all members about keeping threads on topic?
https://www.tfwm.org.uk/news/final-weld-completed-on-westside-metro-extension/
Final weld put into the extension. Well on track to opening this year. Will be interesting to see how the tram and traffic will be at the underpass
https://twitter.com/WMmetro/status/1387449601582587905
Will end up as tram 38 I suspect, note the fleetname in a different position
How many new trams are expected? And also what is the capacity of the wednesbury dept?
Quote from: uniquicity on April 28, 2021, 06:50:20 PM
https://twitter.com/WMmetro/status/1387449601582587905
Will end up as tram 38 I suspect, note the fleetname in a different position
This one is thought to be 39
Quote from: Gareth on April 28, 2021, 11:37:35 PM
How many new trams are expected? And also what is the capacity of the wednesbury dept?
This is an order for 21 trams, with an option for a further 29. Wednesbury Depot is to be extended in time for the opening of the Brierley Hill extension.
Quote from: Roy on April 29, 2021, 12:49:04 PM
This is an order for 21 trams, with an option for a further 29. Wednesbury Depot is to be extended in time for the opening of the Brierley Hill extension.
Isn't Dudley getting a small depot or is the new extensions all going to be run from wednesbury
Quote from: BK63 YWP on April 29, 2021, 04:02:36 PM
Isn't Dudley getting a small depot or is the new extensions all going to be run from wednesbury
years ago there was talk that the old freightliner depot moor street brierley hill was going to be a tram depot but think it all fell through
Broad st to five ways underpass contractors seem to be clearing all their stuff away and the line to five ways underpass looks to have overhead wires
The underpass is wireless
Then underpass to morrisons is wireless with the final section morrisons to the terminus seems to be overhead wires again
By morrisons s the concrete is being painted green with the last bit to the terminus having soil Inbetween the rails
Does anyone know if it is the intention (or even possible) to open when it reopens after the Bull Street work?
Well they couldn't have buses terminating there do to the frequency of the trams??
So Andy Street is looking at taking trams further down the hagley road.
Quote from: Ginger66 on September 22, 2021, 07:03:39 PM
So Andy Street is looking at taking trams further down the hagley road.
That was always the long-term plan, this is nothing new.
The original plan for the Hagley Road was to have it as a Sprint route out to Quinton or Halesowen at first, and then develop it into a Metro tram route afterwards. Somewhere along the line, the Sprint idea got skipped, and the Metro extension to Five Ways went ahead. But it was always going to end up being extended as far as at least Bearwood at some point.
When will buses return to broad street, seen that the track is fully laid and instu and the overhead cables are up
So what work is left to be done in this area surely there is not much left,
Quote from: Ginger66 on October 01, 2021, 07:24:02 AM
When will buses return to broad street, seen that the track is fully laid and instu and the overhead cables are up
So what work is left to be done in this area surely there is not much left,
the stop at 5 ways needs to be finished & would of thought test runs up broad st before passengers can use it the same with Wolverhampton to the station
Quote from: Ginger66 on October 01, 2021, 07:24:02 AM
When will buses return to broad street, seen that the track is fully laid and instu and the overhead cables are up
So what work is left to be done in this area surely there is not much left,
They need complete Bull Street to New Street Station first. Still quite a bit of work to do there. That will need to be done before a tram can even get near Broad Street.
Quote from: Gareth on October 01, 2021, 07:00:37 PM
They need complete Bull Street to New Street Station first. Still quite a bit of work to do there. That will need to be done before a tram can even get near Broad Street.
was told end of the month for coropration st to reopen asked one of the workmen working on the line
All of the track in the city centre is laid apart from a short section near the delta junction but a lot of top surface needs to be completed. I wonder if they'll put the overhead wires back over the delta junction or use batteries from Bull St to Corporation Street, then overhead to Grand Central, then batteries again to Broad St, then overhead for a short distance, then batteries to the terminus.
17 was running down Corporation Street today but no service beyond Bull Street. The appalling thing was that the stops from Library had no mention that there was no tram service and there was a small queue for the tram at Library. The electronic signs showed nothing meaningful. Barriers, etc., still up beyond Library.
Quote from: Stevo on November 04, 2021, 05:00:14 PM
17 was running down Corporation Street today but no service beyond Bull Street. The appalling thing was that the stops from Library had no mention that there was no tram service and there was a small queue for the tram at Library. The electronic signs showed nothing meaningful. Barriers, etc., still up beyond Library.
Sounds like it was doing a 'test run' then.
I did notice a couple of weeks ago when I went to have a look, that the stops by the Town Hall were showing trams as being 'due' or in '5 mins', despite them clearly not going there. There were also a couple of people sitting at those stops, not sure if they were actually waiting for trams that weren't going to arrive, or if they were just sitting there to have a rest.
Road sweeper been cleaning the broad st section under five ways to morrisons and work men have moved a load of their stuff also a crew been road marking the road layout
Morrisons to the terminus still a load of work going on
5th June broad st opens to buses again but no trams yet and five ways underpass remains closed in both direction
Edgbaston metro terminus aka morrisons now looks a right unfinished mess now boards have been put up seperate get the tram stop from the Hagley road
Quote from: karl724223 on June 30, 2022, 05:25:58 PMEdgbaston metro terminus aka morrisons now looks a right unfinished mess now boards have been put up seperate get the tram stop from the Hagley road
From what I can tell they are now doing the old pavement so it's slabbed.
Hopefully it want take them long to do the works
Road layout changed again load of cones got rid off looks like they are getting ready for buses to use under pass and temp bus stop on Hagley road been moved to the old bus stop site with a gap in the boards for access to the tram stops
Why is this part of the extension riddled with increasing delays. First target for open was by end of 2021 which was missed and MML blamed COVID restrictions and weather for causing delays,
Then the mayor said line will be ready for June 2022 and this as again been missed.
Tram being tested today from broad st to morrisons terminus
Extension to open on Sunday.
https://www.wmca.org.uk/news/new-west-midlands-metro-extension-to-edgbaston-to-open-on-sunday
They need to hurry up and open the Wolverhampton extension
Pedestrian crossing points on broad street have been bodged up again with cheap tarmac again today by MM staff
And still the tram bus stops at Morrisons Hagley road still not finished
Quote from: karl724223 on August 09, 2023, 02:26:45 PMAnd still the tram bus stops at Morrisons Hagley road still not finished
It looks messy and very professional
Quote from: karl724223 on August 09, 2023, 01:31:05 PMPedestrian crossing points on broad street have been bodged up again with cheap tarmac again today by MM staff
Surley won't be long till the whole section has to be closed for a retrack :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:
Quote from: LiamsTransport1 on August 10, 2023, 02:17:34 PMSurley won't be long till the whole section has to be closed for a retrack :grin: :grin: :rolleyes:
It's just all the pedestrian crossing points that are breaking up and keep being bodged up
i noticed yesterday when i was down at Morrisons, it appears a Driver failed to observe the STOP sign at Morrisons not only did they knock it down, but there is a Tram shaped print in the flower bed were it finally stopped, no idea which Tram did it or when......
i noticed when i was down at Morrisons, it appears a Driver failed to observe the STOP sign at Morrisons not only did they knock it down, but there is a Tram shaped print in the flower bed were it finally stopped, no idea which Tram did it or when......
Workers at Edgbaston terminus all the fencing been took down so maybe they are finally finishing it
Quote from: Celestial Toymaker on August 22, 2023, 05:37:39 PMi noticed when i was down at Morrisons, it appears a Driver failed to observe the STOP sign at Morrisons not only did they knock it down, but there is a Tram shaped print in the flower bed were it finally stopped, no idea which Tram did it or when......
More likely a car as there have been tyre impressions in the grass
Quote from: karl724223 on December 06, 2023, 08:52:44 PMWorkers at Edgbaston terminus all the fencing been took down so maybe they are finally finishing it
And the temporary stop is yards from the next stop on route.
Why as it taken a year and half to complete pavement, surely it should have been done before the stop opened.
Quote from: Ginger66 on December 07, 2023, 06:31:45 AMAnd the temporary stop is yards from the next stop on route.
Why as it taken a year and half to complete pavement, surely it should have been done before the stop opened.
Road being made wide
Quote from: karl724223 on December 07, 2023, 09:13:40 AMRoad being made wide
Oh dear what a waste of money flower beds being made what a joke