Just going off your fleet list for Midland Classic - you have a section of: 'withdrawn vehicles are also believed to be owned'
Under which you list WDA 4T - Just to confirm they do or did own this vehicle - but it is now at Whytall Transport Museum - I took this photograph of it there - not the best - but it was stuck between two others :)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527750_3216145037111_1070905660_2963251_421078985_n.jpg)
Just thought you might be interested :)
midland classic are getting rid of there Volvos and replacing them with scanias they are. the 81 is S24 SLT, 82 is S25 SLT 83 is S26 SLT they are have one more I think it's going to be numbered 88 S27 SLT
These gonna be for the X12 then??
Bloke I was at school with, works for MC!
Who is that
88 Is going be S200 SLT
THIS IS 82 IN MIDLAND CLASSIC LIVERY
One of the recent Scanias has previous history in the area, see bottom photo on this page
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/88.html
Quote from: bahumbug on May 14, 2012, 08:09:51 PM
Just going off your fleet list for Midland Classic - you have a section of: 'withdrawn vehicles are also believed to be owned'
Under which you list WDA 4T - Just to confirm they do or did own this vehicle - but it is now at Whytall Transport Museum - I took this photograph of it there - not the best - but it was stuck between two others :)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527750_3216145037111_1070905660_2963251_421078985_n.jpg)
Just thought you might be interested :)
Found a photo of it now and put it on
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/74.html
As far as I am aware, WDA 4T is now owned privately and has been for a while. She is just stored at Bammot. The owners plans to eventually restore it to WMPTE livery.
Is anyone able to confirm which of the 'vehicles still thought to be owned' are still actually with Midland Classic?
Why did they get rid of the 57/08 plate volvos?
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 07, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
Why did they get rid of the 57/08 plate volvos?
To standardize the the fleet on the Scania/Wright combination
Quote from: Winston on April 07, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 07, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
Why did they get rid of the 57/08 plate volvos?
To standardize the the fleet on the Scania/Wright combination
Midland Classic sold them to Diamond, as part of the B7RLEs shortly expected
Quote from: Tony on March 31, 2013, 07:28:10 PM
One of the recent Scanias has previous history in the area, see bottom photo on this page
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/88.html
Never knew Dunn-line used to come to Birmingham. Where did the X1 come from?
Quote from: John on April 07, 2013, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Tony on March 31, 2013, 07:28:10 PM
One of the recent Scanias has previous history in the area, see bottom photo on this page
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/88.html
Never knew Dunn-line used to come to Birmingham. Where did the X1 come from?
City Centre to Star City
Quote from: Winston on April 07, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 07, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
Why did they get rid of the 57/08 plate volvos?
To standardize the the fleet on the Scania/Wright combination
That and because they're Volvo, so unreliable.
Quote from: nx4737 on April 07, 2013, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 07, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 07, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
Why did they get rid of the 57/08 plate volvos?
To standardize the the fleet on the Scania/Wright combination
That and because they're Volvo, so unreliable.
Give me a Volvo over a Scania anyday
Midland Classic are extending the X12 one an hour from Lichfield to Sutton from 29th April.
http://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/transport/publictransport/buses/docs/busservicechangesapril13updated.pdf
Seems like the lichfield to sutton corridor will be very well covered now-is it even well used??
Quote from: Peter123 on April 18, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
Seems like the lichfield to sutton corridor will be very well covered now-is it even well used??
The 112 when I have done it in the daytime has been quite empty, not sure about peak times.
The X12 may be better for people who might want to go to Sutton From Burton, who would have to change in Lichfield otherwise.
The Central Buses new route 92 may go a different route from the 112/X12, so more people might use this as well
Quote from: John on April 18, 2013, 03:45:03 PM
Quote from: Peter123 on April 18, 2013, 03:30:59 PM
Seems like the lichfield to sutton corridor will be very well covered now-is it even well used??
The 112 when I have done it in the daytime has been quite empty, not sure about peak times.
The X12 may be better for people who might want to go to Sutton From Burton, who would have to change in Lichfield otherwise.
The Central Buses new route 92 may go a different route from the 112/X12, so more people might use this as well
I've been on the 112 when its always been empty as well-surely people would just use the train from lichfield to brum or sutton
with 3 firms set to be on the sutton-Lichfield lets hope they make it a bus every 20 Min's from either end this way it will be better for the public & give the train more competition
be nice to see a new operator in WM
bored of Arriva lol so Midland classic xD
Quote from: Tony on April 07, 2013, 06:54:44 PM
Quote from: nx4737 on April 07, 2013, 06:49:45 PM
Quote from: Winston on April 07, 2013, 04:54:50 PM
Quote from: arrivaaston on April 07, 2013, 04:53:41 PM
Why did they get rid of the 57/08 plate volvos?
To standardize the the fleet on the Scania/Wright combination
That and because they're Volvo, so unreliable.
Give me a Volvo over a Scania anyday
here here especially coach wise. a well maintained b10m would always win hands down
The remaining section of Arriva 112 between Lichfield and Sutton is being reduced in frequency from Monday, so there probably won't be three buses an hour on that stretch.
However, I cannot find details anywhere for the new Central Buses 92 or Midland Classic X12 and emails to both companies have as yet gone unanswered.
Can companies really expect passengers to use buses with no publicity or information? How long do they expect these routes to last?
Quote from: Smethwickian on April 26, 2013, 09:45:38 AM
The remaining section of Arriva 112 between Lichfield and Sutton is being reduced in frequency from Monday, so there probably won't be three buses an hour on that stretch.
However, I cannot find details anywhere for the new Central Buses 92 or Midland Classic X12 and emails to both companies have as yet gone unanswered.
Can companies really expect passengers to use buses with no publicity or information? How long do they expect these routes to last?
With regards to the 92, this isn't due to start on the 28th April (Staffordshire's publicity is incorrect) hence why there is no publicity or information yet
The reduced frequency 112 wont last long itll be axed like before, has it been reduced to roughly 2hourly to allow for breakdowns? What with it being operated from Wednesfield and all that? Lol
I admit it's been close to two years now since I used to be in Sutton daily, however whenver I saw the 112 then it always had a fairly healthy load on the section heading into and out of Sutton from Lichfield/Burton. Between Birmingham & Sutton it was always pretty much empty. I always used to think at the time they should terminate it in Sutton and perhaps use the spare buses to increase the frequency. I appreciate it was mostly OAPs on board, but I believe there is capacity for Midland Classic & Central to operate between the two locations and potentially survive, especially with the 112s reduced frequency.
The 10.26 from Sutton did not turn up today. lots of people waiting for either the X12 or 92 expecting them to come, as they are both timetabled in Sutton.
Maybe both the X12 and 92 have not started yet, as the 92 is not starting yet as said on the C.B. thread.
They all had to get onto the 10.30 112, which was 15 minutes late itself and turned up at 10.45.
In response to my earlier query, Midland Classic finally emailed me today to state that the revised and extended X12 service 'wasn't starting yet' but gave no indication of when it would.
That would explain the passengers waiting for a bus that hasn't turned up!
If it's been registered, surely they have to operate it or land in hot water with the Traffic Commissioner?
Centro/Network West Midlands must clearly think both services - X12 and 92 - have been correctly registered otherwise why it have put the new info on all the relevant bus stops with today's starting date?
This is becoming a bit of a farce, surely?
Called up to confirm above and they tried to contact the relevant authority lol :L
as said, clearly centro seem to have gone a bit .. :/
The X12 registration is in todays N&P from 4th June.
81 Now in fleet colours...
(https://wmbusphotos.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8139%2F8708593928_774b3f3e72.jpg&hash=bb20ccfe6798700d3ba2be121faf75c4826c344f) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adampriseman/8708593928/)
Midland Classic 81 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adampriseman/8708593928/) by NX4737 (http://www.flickr.com/people/adampriseman/), on Flickr
Quote from: bahumbug on May 14, 2012, 08:09:51 PM
Just going off your fleet list for Midland Classic - you have a section of: 'withdrawn vehicles are also believed to be owned'
Under which you list WDA 4T - Just to confirm they do or did own this vehicle - but it is now at Whytall Transport Museum - I took this photograph of it there - not the best - but it was stuck between two others :)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/527750_3216145037111_1070905660_2963251_421078985_n.jpg)
Just thought you might be interested :)
Been at wythall for ages now usually parked just before the main garage. Never seen it running though wonder what the plans are for this??
Does the dennis falcon come into normal service much?
Confirmed timetable for extended X12 (Sutton Coldfield - Burton), definitely starting May 28, finally available on the company's website.
Quote from: Smethwickian on May 16, 2013, 01:14:35 PM
Confirmed timetable for extended X12 (Sutton Coldfield - Burton), definitely starting May 28, finally available on the company's website.
YAY
As a special introductory offer all services between Lichfield and Sutton Coldfield will be completely FREE between Tuesday 28th May and Monday 3rd June inclusive so come along and try us out
Interesting, Central Buses also announced on their Facebook page that their new 92 service will be free, for an introductory period.
I guess Arriva are going to have a quiet week on their 112 then.
Quote from: Steveminor on May 17, 2013, 08:02:06 AM
I guess Arriva are going to have a quiet week on their 112 then.
8) 8) 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Something for the bank holiday weekend sorted then
Quote from: Stu on May 16, 2013, 07:13:02 PM
Interesting, Central Buses also announced on their Facebook page that their new 92 service will be free, for an introductory period.
I'm guessing its because neither firm got dispensation from the traffic commissioner to start any earlier (like way back when Arriva reduced its 112 in the first place from 29 April) because the 56-day registration period wasn't waived. If Central and Midland Classic are both straining at the leash to be first on the road and to grab passengers' attention, they can operate for free before the registration kicks in. At the bus stop in Sutton town centre wherte the timetable was put up prematurely by Centro, the stickers hastily applied afterwards give the 'official' start dates as per the VOSA registratons, so passengers will once again be confused if they see buses they aren't expecting, running - but free.
Do Midland Classic still have their routremaster
as Central Buses are using theirs this week on the new
92 service wonder if there will b 2 routremasters
on the route
81 now branded for the new X12, seen in Sutton this morning
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/8866880993/
and 82 as well :) was on it for return journey
That would be quite a sight, two routemasters doing normal service duties in 2013
Quote from: Ashley 4569 on May 30, 2013, 10:22:40 PM
That would be quite a sight, two routemasters doing normal service duties in 2013
Whilst listening to brand new singles from Fleetwood Mac and Status Quo on Radio 2! 8)
How many Scanias are branded for the X12?
I know 81 and 82 are, but is there a third one, as I guess there are at least 3 buses now working the X12, as opposed to 2 before the extension to Sutton.
PD1050801/25 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Uttoxeter Bus Station
Finish Point: Cheadle, High Street
Via:
Service Number: 32A
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 02-SEP-2013
Other Details: Mondays to Saturdays.
12 (K212UHA) was parked up on Sutton Coldfield's departure stand SJ this morning, but displaying "Not in service", and to all intents appeared abandoned. :o
It didn't seem to be working the X12, 82 duly came and went at 10:30.
New Addition 'D245 FYM'
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9378587732/
Any idea of a fleet number?
I also saw this in Brum today. Does this mean the route is now contracted to Midland Classic?
Previously it has been contracted to Central Connect and then Johnsons
Quote from: John on July 27, 2013, 04:27:21 PM
New Addition 'D245 FYM'
http://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/9378587732/
Any idea of a fleet number?
L245
Another Solo is 33 Y332HWT.
ADL ENVIRO 300 SCANIA YN62AAK NOW IN SERVICE.
Can anyone tell me if the following vehicles are used in service at Midland Classic
12 (K212 UHA)
80 (TOJ 592S)
90 (L649 MYG)
Quote from: Matt on January 26, 2014, 01:23:34 PM
Can anyone tell me if the following vehicles are used in service at Midland Classic
12 (K212 UHA)
80 (TOJ 592S)
90 (L649 MYG)
TOJ 592S appeared in Sutton Coldfield on the 19th December on the X12 to Burton!
Wow!!! I wish itd appear in service more often!
Quote from: bob on January 26, 2014, 04:08:55 PM
Wow!!! I wish itd appear in service more often!
In case of any doubters - here is a photo
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/80.html
I presume their "Classic+" day ticket can be bought on the X12 in Sutton Coldfield?
Just been past the bus garage on the 4, could see the Metro, RM and Olympians parked up but not the Falcon
Should be a Trident on the 1230 X12 from Sutton. First one ever
Quote from: Tony on May 03, 2014, 11:24:09 AM
Should be a Trident on the 1230 X12 from Sutton. First one ever
And here it is
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/93.html
complete with NX moquette!
The Falcon was on the 9 today.
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White Streetlite (201) MX12DYM was on the 402 and white E200 202 (MX60BWW) was on the 19A, while 402 was 71, S371SET.
New addition is ex-Reading Buses 'YN05 GXH'
on the X12 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14019344408/
Quote from: John on May 17, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
New addition is ex-Reading Buses 'YN05 GXH'
on the X12 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14019344408/
I had a tip off as well! - here it is in Four Oaks
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/YN05GXH.html
Quote from: Tony on May 17, 2014, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: John on May 17, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
New addition is ex-Reading Buses 'YN05 GXH'
on the X12 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14019344408/
I had a tip off as well! - here it is in Four Oaks
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/YN05GXH.html
@Tony. Nice pic, are you sure about the location on the page?
Quote from: the trainbasher on May 17, 2014, 08:29:55 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 17, 2014, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: John on May 17, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
New addition is ex-Reading Buses 'YN05 GXH'
on the X12 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14019344408/
I had a tip off as well! - here it is in Four Oaks
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/YN05GXH.html
@Tony. Nice pic, are you sure about the location on the page?
Well spotted, the X12 doesn't pass the depot anyway, think it's the 4 that passes the depot
Quote from: Tony on May 17, 2014, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: John on May 17, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
New addition is ex-Reading Buses 'YN05 GXH'
on the X12 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14019344408/
I had a tip off as well! - here it is in Four Oaks
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/YN05GXH.html
There certainly were a fair few of these for sale with Drew Wilson so if Midland Classic are prepared to get their cheque book out, it won't be the last...
Quote from: DiamondDart on May 17, 2014, 08:34:01 PM
Quote from: Tony on May 17, 2014, 08:18:04 PM
Quote from: John on May 17, 2014, 04:48:48 PM
New addition is ex-Reading Buses 'YN05 GXH'
on the X12 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14019344408/
I had a tip off as well! - here it is in Four Oaks
http://wmbusphotos.com/MidlandClassic/YN05GXH.html
There certainly were a fair few of these for sale with Drew Wilson so if Midland Classic are prepared to get their cheque book out, it won't be the last...
The Scania/Wright combination appears to the vehicle of choice for Midland Classic, the latest example now makes 10
Quote from: mikestone on May 09, 2014, 10:20:48 PM
White Streetlite (201) MX12DYM
white E200 202 (MX60BWW)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14019362028/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/14182887696/
L349MYG has been sold to an operator down south
Midland Classic now have two brand new Enviro200's in the fleet registered as JB14 MCL and KW14 MCL with the fleet numberes reported to be 1 (JB14) and 2 (KW14).
The pair at Plaxtons in Scarborough: www.flickr.com/photos/wda4t/14705302216/
I was told these were replacements for the white Streetlite and E200.
http://www.derbybusdepot.co.uk/photos/midlandclassic/MC_D10SLT.jpg
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would appear to be the latest addition - I suspect the shot may bee posed, has anyone seen it in Lichfield/Sutton?
Quote from: stuartn on July 27, 2014, 05:20:23 PM
Midland Classic now have two brand new Enviro200's in the fleet registered as JB14 MCL and KW14 MCL with the fleet numberes reported to be 1 (JB14) and 2 (KW14).
The pair at Plaxtons in Scarborough: www.flickr.com/photos/wda4t/14705302216/
JB14 is indeed fleetnumber 1, on the X12 today
https://www.flickr.com/photos/john-s-91/15479463152/
They also had demonstrator 204 YX14 RXB in service on Friday.
Either 81 or 82 is now registered with a FN55 registration rather than its South Lancs Travel numberplate. Deffinatly one of the X12 branded Scanias anyway
Quote from: John on November 24, 2014, 08:38:18 PM
Either 81 or 82 is now registered with a FN55 registration rather than its South Lancs Travel numberplate. Deffinatly one of the X12 branded Scanias anyway
The new registrations are listed in this months Buses magazine
Where?
Quote from: 646 on November 24, 2014, 09:32:06 PM
Where?
Just been through the latest issue, no obvious sign. The Derby Bus Depot website suggests 81 is now FX55VKH and 82 is now FX55VLO (and 83 is FX55VKG).
From the Derby Bus Depot site
The former South Lancs Scanias have been re-registered as follows:
81 (S24 SLT) is now (FX55 VKH),
82 (S25 SLT) is now (FX55 VLO),
83 (S26 SLT) is now (FX55 VKG),
88 (S200 SLT) is now (YL51 ZUD),
89 (S27 SLT) is now (YN51 MGU),
Buses December records the E200 I mentioned and trident 94 withdrawn - although he has gone back to calling it Midland Classic, Swadlincote.
Has MidlandClassic acquired an Scania Omnicity DD? It looks like it. (Photo Credit to Owner; I have no more information)
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gricerman/16046742837/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gricerman/16045084518/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gricerman/16045084288/in/photostream/
Nope It's with NIBS Buses, will eventually look like this https://www.flickr.com/photos/93223521@N04/15593555395/
They have acquired 4 Scania East Lancs OmniDekkas however, YN54OAA-C/G, former London Sovereign examples.
Enviro200 on the X12 today
Anyone know anything about the supposed X13 starting on the 12th April between Burton and Tamworth?
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/12April2015.aspx
Timetable is on traveline - hourly, going round Alrewas and calling at the National Arboretum.
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For some reason the map on there shows the service going to Fradley but with no stops
Quote from: Alex on March 13, 2015, 09:45:18 PM
Anyone know anything about the supposed X13 starting on the 12th April between Burton and Tamworth?
http://www.networkwestmidlands.com/bus/servicechanges/ServiceChangesPages/12April2015.aspx
I have been advised by Midland Classic that the new service will start on April 13th. Hopefully they will make this work as I believe there needs to be a service between Burton and Tamworth.
Arriva tried it not so long ago and fairly quickly reverted just to a college service.
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I'm rather bemused by the tone of this thread, which reads as though people think NWM and Traveline were making it up?
Arrivas 813 took much longer to get there though. The journey time on this is quite impressive.
The 813 also tried to gain passengers by competing with the Cliftonville Campville service of heartlands that didn't quite work out.
Still I don't think there's quite enough passengers to make it work.
Well since I have not seen an invitation to tender for the 813 before it started I can't see how it had a subsidy
Now that the ADL E20Ds 1 and 2 have been here for some time, does anyone know if they tend to stick to a particular route?
Also, how are they performing as regards reliability, driver acceptance and fuel consumption?
Quote from: Tiptonian on March 26, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Now that the ADL E20Ds 1 and 2 have been here for some time, does anyone know if they tend to stick to a particular route?
Also, how are they performing as regards reliability, driver acceptance and fuel consumption?
You get one on the X12 most days and the other normally on the 21. Its abit strange having an E200 with leather seats and laminate flooring but there are worse buses out there and theyre a nice pair. Just need more umph for the A38.
How often do deckers go on the X12?
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 27, 2015, 07:01:01 AM
You get one on the X12 most days and the other normally on the 21. Its abit strange having an E200 with leather seats and laminate flooring but there are worse buses out there and theyre a nice pair. Just need more umph for the A38.
Travelled on one on the X12 this week, no obvious lack of umph.
Had one ride on a decker on there a couple of years ago after an accident on the A38, not unusual, alas, caused disruption. If memory serves it was an ex London Trident.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on March 27, 2015, 07:01:01 AM
You get one on the X12 most days and the other normally on the 21. Its abit strange having an E200 with leather seats and laminate flooring but there are worse buses out there and theyre a nice pair. Just need more umph for the A38.
Many thanks for your reply.
Quote from: Tiptonian on March 26, 2015, 11:21:00 PM
Now that the ADL E20Ds 1 and 2 have been here for some time, does anyone know if they tend to stick to a particular route?
Also, how are they performing as regards reliability, driver acceptance and fuel consumption?
One of the trade mags did a test on one of the E200s on account of them having AS-Tronic gearboxes as opposed to the normal Allison or Voith. The gearbox didn't come in for too much praise but the buses are capable of over 60mph according to the article.
Does the classic metrobus ever see use?
Quote from: Bob on March 27, 2015, 06:22:27 PM
Does the classic metrobus ever see use?
Been out once in the last year and abit
Detail of the X13 now on their website.
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Also extending some Burton 10 services via Yoxall and Kings Bromley to Lichfield as 810s to cover the diversion of most Arriva services -
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Arriva changes are also available at
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http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/midlands/updates/revised-bus-services-in-burton-uttoxeter-coalville-lichfield-leicestershire-from-12-april1/
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although the links from it lead to the current timetable. The new ones are in traveline - existing 7s via the A38 become X7 but two minutes slower!
Looking at the X13 route another bus down the Lichfield Road corridor lol.
Quote from: Dutsey on March 31, 2015, 10:58:22 AM
Looking at the X13 route another bus down the Lichfield Road corridor lol.
This section of route has gone from 2 to 9 buses per hour in just over 12 months !
Have they bought any more vehicles for these extra services or do they have enough to cover the PVR?
Quote from: 3Q on March 31, 2015, 06:42:21 PM
This section of route has gone from 2 to 9 buses per hour in just over 12 months !
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eh - two X12s, an x13 and two 7s - how do you make that 9?
Quote from: mikestone on March 31, 2015, 08:40:36 PM
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eh - two X12s, an x13 and two 7s - how do you make that 9?
The post was referring to the Lichfield Road corridor in Tamworth
PD1050801/28 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Swadlincote
Finish Point: Alton Towers
Via: Burton, Uttoxeter
Service Number: A1
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 25-MAY-2015
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
Scania decker 55 is painted in a Stevensons style livery
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/16881602778/
I think that looks good. I also think I saw some of the old livery on Eclipses in Leicester and they looked well smart.
Quote from: Dutsey on April 08, 2015, 02:25:43 PM
I think that looks good. I also think I saw some of the old livery on Eclipses in Leicester and they looked well smart.
32646 and 66965, externally First Leicester's best looking vehicles
55 is their second best looking vehicle, TOJ would be first choice though
Apparently Scania/Solar Y47HHE is the latest addition and is being prepared for service by Dawsonrentals
this was in town today on the pen top tour of brum https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/17081516349/
Y47 HHE is not coming here.
James
Does anybody know what the patronage is like on the X13?
Quote from: Solo1 on April 25, 2015, 07:53:32 PM
this was in town today on the pen top tour of brum https://www.flickr.com/photos/stanjack/17081516349/
Is the vehicle on loan to Kings Norton Coaches?
It made a brief TV appearance too - either on "The Last Leg" or "have I Got News for You"
@mikestone as mentioned in the Buses on TV thread it was HIGNFY
83 (FX55 VKG - note is duplicated as VKH in fleetlist) seen today running towards Tamworth station on the 16.04 X13 a few minutes late with about a dozen passengers.
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What has the patronage been like on the X13?
Quote from: Dutsey on May 08, 2015, 10:33:27 AM
What has the patronage been like on the X13?
Obviously not sufficient as it's withdrawn from 5/7/15
Quote from: DiamondDart on June 05, 2015, 04:30:40 PM
Obviously not sufficient as it's withdrawn from 5/7/15
Not totally withdrawn, 3 return journeys still registered from then.
That's a shame, I think new routes should have to be run for a year to give people the chance to use it and rely on it
Quote from: Dutsey on June 15, 2015, 09:49:13 AM
That's a shame, I think new routes should have to be run for a year to give people the chance to use it and rely on it
But if the operator is losing money on it, why should they continue to run it? Arriva tried running Burton to Tamworth but that didn't last long. If it is only carrying passes with a few fare payers which I suspect is probably the case, hardly worth continuing with it. Train by far and away the quickest way between Burton and Tamworth.
I understand that but surely a route needs time to become established, 3 months is hardly a long time and they should advertise the route with offers etc.
I think they could link with the hospital which may give more usage.
Quote from: Dutsey on June 15, 2015, 01:13:24 PM
I understand that but surely a route needs time to become established, 3 months is hardly a long time and they should advertise the route with offers etc.
I think they could link with the hospital which may give more usage.
I agree that this isn't a long time from a passenger perspective but if you are taking all of the commercial risk, three months is a long time!
Quote from: Dutsey on June 15, 2015, 01:13:24 PM
I understand that but surely a route needs time to become established, 3 months is hardly a long time and they should advertise the route with offers etc.
I think they could link with the hospital which may give more usage.
Three months sounds ample time to assess whether it's commercially viable or not. The only way to tell is to try it.
If there's been patronage growth in that period you might keep at it, but if it's been flat for two of the three months it's probably not going to work and you're best to scale it back.
Quote from: Dennis on June 15, 2015, 08:34:07 PM
Three months sounds ample time to assess whether it's commercially viable or not. The only way to tell is to try it.
If there's been patronage growth in that period you might keep at it, but if it's been flat for two of the three months it's probably not going to work and you're best to scale it back.
Any 'new' route takes a lot longer than three months to know if it is going to be viable. Most genuine 'new' routes as opposed to ones aimed at either taking existing passengers, or mostly replacing another route are generally tendered for the first year to give them chance to grow and become viable.
Nobody just changes their travelling habits just because a new route appears.
I know I'm going to seem like an idiot for asking but is TOJ 592S still with Midland Classic?
Quote from: Michael Bevan on June 15, 2015, 11:39:22 PM
I know I'm going to seem like an idiot for asking but is TOJ 592S still with Midland Classic?
It is.
Quote from: Tony on June 15, 2015, 08:39:19 PM
Any 'new' route takes a lot longer than three months to know if it is going to be viable. Most genuine 'new' routes as opposed to ones aimed at either taking existing passengers, or mostly replacing another route are generally tendered for the first year to give them chance to grow and become viable.
Nobody just changes their travelling habits just because a new route appears.
Do you think this will be the case with the 154 Tony? Because despite smart new buses wi fi etc its doing absolutely dismally at the moment. Yet the 54 has taken off.
Quote from: Bob on June 16, 2015, 10:15:25 AM
Do you think this will be the case with the 154 Tony? Because despite smart new buses wi fi etc its doing absolutely dismally at the moment. Yet the 54 has taken off.
Yes, when people look for jobs, they have to be able to get there, so people along the 154 route can now apply for jobs at JLR, but may not have done before, that is why it takes so long for routes to build up.
Not enough people in Hednesford will see a bus with Wolverhampton on the front and think 'let's go to Wolverhampton for the day' to make the service financially viable.
Whereas Stafford, Penkridge, Wolverhampton already has established links, not just Arriva, but the train as well
True but plenty of people from cannock go to wolves. But as ive said before there's not a single timetable up anywhere in staffordshire, well at least as far as Featherstone so how on earth would anyone know it even exists?
Are the Tridents used in service anymore?
I never saw any today, but did see all of the 'new' deckers 51-55 out and about (including 54 on the X12)
Quote from: Bob on June 16, 2015, 10:24:53 AM
True but plenty of people from cannock go to wolves. But as ive said before there's not a single timetable up anywhere in staffordshire, well at least as far as Featherstone so how on earth would anyone know it even exists?
@Bob Do you know if theres any timetable leaflets for the 54 / 154 in Cannock or any other Staffordshire library?
Quote from: John on June 16, 2015, 08:42:21 PM
Are the Tridents used in service anymore?
I never saw any today, but did see all of the 'new' deckers 51-55 out and about (including 54 on the X12)
I think they're service spares. I've never seen more than one out on any one day but I couldn't be definite that they may appear more/less. I haven't seen the two Solo's for a few trips either or the Olympus so must vary. Sorry if thats abit of a naff ramble of a response.
Quote from: Westy on June 16, 2015, 09:18:18 PM
@Bob Do you know if theres any timetable leaflets for the 54 / 154 in Cannock or any other Staffordshire library?
Not sure mate. But it'd be much more useful having emat bus stops lol :)
Falcon K212UHA is/was on the X12. Reported elsewhere as the 1128 from Scutton Coldfield
I can confirm that former NXWM spectra 4002 has been bought by Midland Classic. It still carries the registration R2NEG. Not sure of its new fleetnumber or what route it is to be used on.
I suspect it will do the rounds at the bus rallies this summer, must admit I am dying to see it in the flesh.
Quote from: trident4370 on July 28, 2015, 05:31:57 PM
I suspect it will do the rounds at the bus rallies this summer, must admit I am dying to see it in the flesh.
Just seen a pic of it in Midland Classic livery, looks rather good. Although would have been even better in Stevensons livery...
Quote from: Cheese on July 28, 2015, 05:56:23 PM
Just seen a pic of it in Midland Classic livery, looks rather good. Although would have been even better in Stevensons livery...
Where do you find pic
@Cheese
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11174766_10153153423555787_1160105806808789284_n.jpg?oh=0bdd9de95c58289ac7569c6d237f293d&oe=56465CF1
Quote from: John on July 28, 2015, 06:14:33 PM
https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11174766_10153153423555787_1160105806808789284_n.jpg?oh=0bdd9de95c58289ac7569c6d237f293d&oe=56465CF1
Wow Thankyou
@John
Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 28, 2015, 06:16:53 PM
Wow Thankyou @John
Looks rather good from the offside too. Was texted a photo of it earlier, but I guess there will be various other ones online as well.
I have got to agree with you all, the livery looks very good on a spectra!
Need to get rid of the NXWM stickers though
Here is a pic of the offside. I do agree it looks dam smart
https://www.flickr.com/photos/wda4t/19468962703/
I do hope it will see normal service in Burton to make it easy to find. I know it would probably never happen, but I would love to see it in Sutton on the X12 ;D
I hope it sneaks onto the X12, I hadn't actually seen it until now but It does look nice!
Midland Classic have got Notts and Derby 795 YJ56KAD a VDL ???/Plaxton Centro on hire. It's Midland Classic number is 206 and it was on the X13 Flyer to Tamworth today.
Quote from: John on July 28, 2015, 08:41:58 PM
Here is a pic of the offside. I do agree it looks dam smart
https://www.flickr.com/photos/wda4t/19468962703/
I do hope it will see normal service in Burton to make it easy to find. I know it would probably never happen, but I would love to see it in Sutton on the X12 ;D
Does look really smart better than the nx red/white livery. If you look in the top window theres still an nx recruitment poster
For anyone wishing to ride or see Spectra R2NEG it will be operating on the car park shuttle at Wythall Transport Museum on Bank Holiday Monday (31st August) along with recently preserved NXWM 4001
R2 NEG just left Sutton on X12!
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 29, 2015, 05:58:27 PM
R2 NEG just left Sutton on X12!
I was hoping it would make an appearance on there. Hope you got a pic! If I knew, I would have gone to see it
Quote from: John on August 29, 2015, 06:16:23 PM
I was hoping it would make an appearance on there. Hope you got a pic! If I knew, I would have gone to see it
Was on 4926 at the time so didn't manage to.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on August 29, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
Was on 4926 at the time so didn't manage to.
Hopefully it happens again. A shame I didn't see it earlier in the day
Only photo I managed to get yesterday.
4002 will be one of the buses operating the car park shuttle at BaMMOT tomorrow. Looking forward to a ride along with sister 4001.
Quote from: Gareth on August 30, 2015, 07:41:53 PM
4002 will be one of the buses operating the car park shuttle at BaMMOT tomorrow. Looking forward to a ride along with sister 4001.
where abouts to and from is it free ?
Quote from: RS on August 30, 2015, 08:29:06 PM
where abouts to and from is it free ?
From the museum to the car park so you'd have to go to Wythall first and pay your admission. If thats not correct then go on their website.
The car park shuttle is free, but if you want to enter the museum you would have to pay.
is 4002 defo gonna be there
Just been past Midland Classic's depot and there looked to be a pair of ex Arriva London DWs in the yard, DW17 might have been one of them but couldn't clearly see.
Maybe Midland Classic have bought them to replace 2 of their Tridents???
Gemini now in fleet colours.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153249840009163&set=pcb.917711158315680&type=3&theater
I am happy to announce I was told by a Midland Classic driver in Sutton Coldfield yesterday that Midland Classic are apparently having some more Optare Spectras off NXWM I don't how many. Apparently the drivers their really like the Spectra. :D
Quote from: Reece on October 04, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
I am happy to announce I was told by a Midland Classic driver in Sutton Coldfield yesterday that Midland Classic are apparently having some more Optare Spectras off NXWM I don't how many. Apparently the drivers their really like the Spectra. :D
Not the end of spectra so then
Quote from: Reece on October 04, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
I am happy to announce I was told by a Midland Classic driver in Sutton Coldfield yesterday that Midland Classic are apparently having some more Optare Spectras off NXWM I don't how many. Apparently the drivers their really like the Spectra. :D
Besides the 3 used yesterday & discounting 4001, what other NXWM Spectras are available to buy?
What service is 4002 usually found on?
I don't know which service it is usually found on
@Trident 4194 but if you waited in Burton Town Centre you should see it if it is in service on that day.
I've heard a rumour that Midland Classic are looking at buying a Merc. Can anyone confirm or deny?
Yet they've still have two non DDA Flolines still in service so I'm curious.
What type of merc?
I am guessing an ex NXWM 0405
@Trident 4194
As for all these non DDA buses, they can still be used on schools and they have quite a few schools services.
Midland Classic liveried Leyland Titan just noted going around Bordesley Middleway.
Can anyone tell me what routes have what buses even if just saying single decker or double decker please. Thankyou
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 25, 2015, 10:09:09 AM
Can anyone tell me what routes have what buses even if just saying single decker or double decker please. Thankyou
X12 uses single deckers - Scania L94UB and the occasional Enviro 200
@Trident 4194
17 employs deckers - usually OmniDekka but occasional Pulsar Gemini
Thankyou both for your help
The 4, 9, 19, 21 sees a mix of everything. The 402/403 are L94UB's. 810 is a decker I believe.
Quote from: 2206 on October 25, 2015, 11:18:56 AM
Midland Classic don't have a 401?
403?
@Ashley 60171
Yes sorry I meant that. Cheers
@2206 will edit.
Where are 71 and 72 usually?
Thanks
@Ashley 60171 for your consistently good knowledge
Quote from: Trident 4194 on October 25, 2015, 01:28:36 PM
Where are 71 and 72 usually?
Thanks @Ashley 60171 for your consistently good knowledge
The 4, 9, 19, 21 are your best bets. But they don't seem to appear on each visit so it's pot luck sadly but they're a good ride and still pretty tidy.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on October 25, 2015, 01:34:10 PM
The 4, 9, 19, 21 are your best bets. But they don't seem to appear on each visit so it's pot luck sadly but they're a good ride and still pretty tidy.
Thankyou again ex Ludlow buses must be kept tidy
E200 JB14MCL 1
Is on rail rep from Walsall
Forgot to mention yesterday that the Stevensons liveried Scania decker was on the X12 yesterday evening
E200's 3 and 208 were noted in use today on the former diamond Lichfield circulars.
Quote from: tphi12000 on November 19, 2015, 10:48:28 PM
E200's 3 and 207 were noted in use today on the former diamond Lichfield circulars.
Thought Solus Coaches ran the Lichfield Circular's now?
Quote from: DiamondDart on November 20, 2015, 12:42:13 AM
Thought Solus Coaches ran the Lichfield Circular's now?
They were, but Midland Classic now operating them on behalf of Diamond instead.
Quote from: Cheese on November 20, 2015, 08:19:52 AM
They were, but Midland Classic now operating them on behalf of Diamond instead.
Is that just until the Solus coaches registrations kick in or have things changed?
Quote from: Winston on November 20, 2015, 08:39:43 AM
Is that just until the Solus coaches registrations kick in or have things changed?
Things have changed it seems, Solus don't want to run them now it would seem. I wouldn't be surprised if their registration to operate them is cancelled, or if it does go ahead is somewhat amended (which I really hope does not happen).
That's interesting - thanks Cheese!
I've found the timetable on the Midland Classic website, stating that the company started operating services 20-23 (on behalf of Diamond) from 16 November and will do so until Christmas Eve: -
http://www.midlandclassic.com/media/1945/Lichfield-Timetable-161115-web.pdf
3(JB64 MCL) & 208(MX12 CGE)
Quote from: Justin Tyme on November 20, 2015, 07:08:17 PM
That's interesting - thanks Cheese!
I've found the timetable on the Midland Classic website, stating that the company started operating services 20-23 (on behalf of Diamond) from 16 November and will do so until Christmas Eve: -
http://www.midlandclassic.com/media/1945/Lichfield-Timetable-161115-web.pdf
Unsure as of yet who will be operating the services after Christmas, I guess it will become clear in the near future.
This weekend sees the first day of operation of a Sunday service on route 9 between Burton and Swadlincote. Subject to availability we will be running the whole day with our Routemaster. Normal fares apply and link to timetable is below:
http://www.midlandclassic.com/media/1931/9-261015.pdf
James
83 reported as having had a repaint and losing its X12 branding.
Just visited the depot.
If not already mentioned they have got 4 Pulsar Geminis
42 LJ03MWA
43 LJ53BFP
44 LJ53BGK
45 LJ53BGO
Also there was a DAF DB250/Alexander ALX400. It is plain red and has logos applied. It is number 40 X438FGP. There were two tridents there number 93 and an UNID one.Spectra 41 was there but had a panel missing on the front so may be withdrawn. Also looking to be withdrawn was 72.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on December 13, 2015, 02:11:21 PM
Spectra 41 was there but had a panel missing on the front so may be withdrawn.
If it is true 4002 may be withdrawn then it is a shame she had a short life outside NX... Hope 4002 goes into preservation. :)
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 13, 2015, 03:03:02 PM
If it is true 4002 may be withdrawn then it is a shame she had a short life outside NX... Hope 4002 goes into preservation. :)
I really wouldn't think it wold be withdrawn just yet. Might just be having work done on it
Came across 42 in Burton on dull day last week.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/e2467f
It may not be withdrawn but that was just my guess. There may also be a lack of spare parts.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on December 13, 2015, 03:28:15 PM
It may not be withdrawn but that was just my guess. There may also be a lack of spare parts.
Wonder why they bought it if there was likely to be a spare part issue?
Didn't WMPTE have a similar problem with a FODEN double decker they bought in the late 70's?
The engine has expired on the Spectra in a big way. The DLA has been purchased to donate its engine (and it's X441 not 438, that's the one at Arriva Burton!) but will run it in the short term. So don't worry, it's in good hands. Shows as a warning that the purchase price of a bus for preservation is most certainly the cheap part!
71 and 72 both withdrawn for scrap.
James
Quote from: Westy on December 13, 2015, 03:37:41 PM
Wonder why they bought it if there was likely to be a spare part issue?
Didn't WMPTE have a similar problem with a FODEN double decker they bought in the late 70's?
The problem with the few Foden-NCs built was that Foden inexplicably went for an Allison gearbox and that was its Achilles heel. Parts were difficult to get and very expensive. Had Foden gone for the more conventional five-speed semi auto it could have been much different, as long as they were kept away from the likes of the idiot on here who thinks that a semi is driven the same as a full auto.
Parts for a Spectra's chassis are likely to be easy to come by as there are plenty of DB250s coming out of service and littering scrapyards. Body parts may be another matter.
Quote from: James on December 13, 2015, 06:19:11 PM
The engine has expired on the Spectra in a big way. The DLA has been purchased to donate its engine (and it's X441 not 438, that's the one at Arriva Burton!) but will run it in the short term. So don't worry, it's in good hands. Shows as a warning that the purchase price of a bus for preservation is most certainly the cheap part!
71 and 72 both withdrawn for scrap.
James
X436 FGP is the Arriva Burton one.
What's the fate of K212LHA?
Likely to be sold after 31 December.
Intend to run it on X12 on the 31 December though.
James
So is EX NX 4002 To be used again or is it withdrawn
Quote from: James on December 13, 2015, 10:53:33 PM
Likely to be sold after 31 December.
Intend to run it on X12 on the 31 December though.
James
It was running on Thursday in Lichfield not sure what on though. Do you still have the Metro?
Quote from: RS on December 13, 2015, 10:57:29 PM
So is EX NX 4002 To be used again or is it withdrawn
Well, if you have read the other replies then you would know the answer to your question. James has already said he's waiting for the donor engine...
Quote from: James on December 13, 2015, 06:19:11 PM
The engine has expired on the Spectra in a big way. The DLA has been purchased to donate its engine (and it's X441 not 438, that's the one at Arriva Burton!) but will run it in the short term. So don't worry, it's in good hands. Shows as a warning that the purchase price of a bus for preservation is most certainly the cheap part!
71 and 72 both withdrawn for scrap.
James
Quote from: P419 EJW on December 14, 2015, 01:09:45 AM
Well, if you have read the other replies then you would know the answer to your question. James has already said he's waiting for the donor engine...
Oh ok sorry
@P419 EJW
Quote from: Bob on December 13, 2015, 11:46:37 PM
It was running on Thursday in Lichfield not sure what on though. Do you still have the Metro?
It's normally on staff shuttle
E200 no.1 was on the Lichfield circulars today along with the usual no.3.
Is the Falcon definitely coming out to play on Thursday? Cheers
Afraid not, it's decided it didn't want to last until the deadline :(
James
Quote from: James on December 30, 2015, 12:29:27 AM
Afraid not, it's decided it didn't want to last until the deadline :(
James
Cheers
Was that the last Gardner engined single decker bus in normal service? :(
Possibly. Wasn't exactly in normal service though. It did do 2 hours on the Lichfield local services a few weeks back when there was a problem with the Enviro. That will have been the last thing it did.
TOJ lives though and has just had a partial engine rebuild so will still be out on occasions next year.
James
Enviro 200's 1 and 2 are on the Tame Bridge Parkway-Rugeley Trent Valley Rail Replacement today.
PD1050801/16 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent, New Street and Rough Hay, Acorn Inn given service number 10 effective from 11-Apr-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
12. PD1050801/27 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Hill Ridware and The Friary School, Lichfield given service number L1 effective from 11-Apr-2016.
13. PD1050801/29 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Lichfield and Lichfield given service number 819/820/821/822/823 effective from 11-Apr-2016. To amend Route and Timetable.
Midland Classic 40 is for sale at £8,500
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-X-DAF-DB250-ALEXANDER-ALX400-67-SEAT-LOW-FLOOR-DOUBLE-DECK-BUS-/281932931623?hash=item41a4832227:g:bWkAAOSwezVWvGL-
Quote from: Adam 404 on February 17, 2016, 04:04:24 PM
Midland Classic 40 is for sale at £8,500
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-X-DAF-DB250-ALEXANDER-ALX400-67-SEAT-LOW-FLOOR-DOUBLE-DECK-BUS-/281932931623?hash=item41a4832227:g:bWkAAOSwezVWvGL-
Its been on ebay for about a week now. One of there Tridents were on there a couple of days ago as well. I think it was 93
If X441FGP is for sale for further service? Does that mean R2NEG is now finished or have they got another engine fonor?
At least two more Geminis are now here. One is 47 (LJ04LGA) still in red.
Deckers 53 and 55 were out on the X12 today between Burton and Lichfield. I was on 55 and it had no problems keeping time.
Noted former Trident 93 V306KGW passing through Lichfield this evening converted to open top and repainted mainly white / cream and green livery no fleetnames.
Quote from: tphi12000 on March 18, 2016, 10:03:46 PM
Noted former Trident 93 V306KGW passing through Lichfield this evening converted to open top and repainted mainly white / cream and green livery no fleetnames.
Heading to Seaford & District for their new Eastbourne Sightseeing service.
Does anyone know what route 1 and 2 are on today and if they are out?
Quote from: 2206 on April 02, 2016, 11:49:36 AM
Does anyone know what route 1 and 2 are on today and if they are out?
2 is on the X12. Saw it in Sutton this morning
Quote from: John on April 02, 2016, 11:53:42 AM
2 is on the X12. Saw it in Sutton this morning
Thanks
@John.
What time did you see it?
Quote from: 2206 on April 02, 2016, 11:54:24 AM
Thanks @John.
What time did you see it?
I think it was around half 9
Midland Classic are about to recieve 2 brand new Optare Metrocities. One will be '5'
The link to Flickr on the Facebook post dosen't work so I've attached the post
Quote from: John on April 07, 2016, 08:17:07 PM
Midland Classic are about to recieve 2 brand new Optare Metrocities. One will be '5'
The link to Flickr on the Facebook post dosen't work so I've attached the post
Does anyone know what route they are for? It would be nice to see one on the X12.
Quote from: 2206 on April 07, 2016, 08:18:39 PM
Does anyone know what route they are for? It would be nice to see one on the X12.
On the post it says "A regular sight in Lichfield" so I am guessing the circular services there but I may be wrong.
Quote from: Adam 404 on April 07, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
On the post it says "A regular sight in Lichfield" so I am guessing the circular services there but I may be wrong.
Yes. It seems the caption hasn't come up fully. It does say 'Lichfield Circulars'
If it is on the Lichfield locals does it pay enough would of thought more
for the x12
So Midland Classic now run these then? I thought someone else had it on contract with them or something like that
Quote from: Solo1 on April 08, 2016, 02:09:30 AM
If it is on the Lichfield locals does it pay enough would of thought more
for the x12
Regulars on Lichfield Circulars. That is not to say they won't be used elsewhere.
PD1050801 SN
MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC
Director(s): JAMES BODDICE, JOHN MITCHESON, JULIAN HENRY PEDDLE.
UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD BURTON-ON-TRENT DE15 9SQ
New operating centre: WETMORE ROAD BURTON UPON TRENT DE14 1QL
()
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 20 vehicle(s),
was posted on facebook earlier that r2neg was seen on suspended tow on m6 heading south
Are the Metrocities in service yet on the Lichfield circulars?
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on April 21, 2016, 06:12:46 PM
Are the Metrocities in service yet on the Lichfield circulars?
I notice in a picture on the PSV Circle that one was at the Blackpool Coach Rally yesterday.
'YJ16 DXT' is one of them
https://www.flickr.com/photos/77011412@N04/25923982864/
In talks to buy Arriva Burton
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/Arriva-talks-sell-Burton-services-Midland-Classic/story-29178652-detail/story.html
Quote from: Tony on April 26, 2016, 01:29:25 PM
In talks to buy Arriva Burton
http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/Arriva-talks-sell-Burton-services-Midland-Classic/story-29178652-detail/story.html
It makes you wonder whether this is the start of more to come at Midlands & elsewhere within Arriva UK, parent company DB have apparently slashed the new fleet investment budget for this year
Quote from: Bryan on April 15, 2016, 11:32:07 AM
PD1050801 SN
MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC
Director(s): JAMES BODDICE, JOHN MITCHESON, JULIAN HENRY PEDDLE.
UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD BURTON-ON-TRENT DE15 9SQ
New operating centre: WETMORE ROAD BURTON UPON TRENT DE14 1QL
()
New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 20 vehicle(s),
how near to the old Stevenson depot /arriva depot is the new operating centre
Burton's gone full circle and will be back in the hands of former Stevensons director Julian Peddle
Quote from: Winston on April 26, 2016, 01:31:55 PM
It makes you wonder whether this is the start of more to come at Midlands & elsewhere within Arriva UK, parent company DB have apparently slashed the new fleet investment budget for this year
Let's hope so. Look what's happened at cannock! Can't even afford to run pulsars so replaces them with older buses
Quote from: Solo1 on April 26, 2016, 03:17:47 PM
how near to the old Stevenson depot /arriva depot is the new operating centre
According to the article in the Burton Mail it is the Arriva depot
I wonder if midland classic has dented the profit at Arriva Burton &that's the reason for the sale or is there another reason for the sale
Quote from: Solo1 on April 26, 2016, 11:22:31 PM
I wonder if midland classic has dented the profit at Arriva Burton &that's the reason for the sale or is there another reason for the sale
They may well have done on the town services, but it might also just be another cost cutting exercise designed to reduce Arriva Midlands operating costs by removing the requirement for a depot in Burton & the associated overheads, transferring as many Burton services in to other Arriva depots, whilst only sacrificing the town services (which may now be less profitable due to successful competition from Midland Classic). As an added bonus it may free up some current Burton vehicles for cascade / replacing older vehicles due to reduced requirements & savings on engineering spares etc
Quote from: Winston on April 26, 2016, 11:41:09 PM
They may well have done on the town services, but it might also just be another cost cutting exercise designed to reduce Arriva Midlands operating costs by removing the requirement for a depot in Burton & the associated overheads, transferring as many Burton services in to other Arriva depots, whilst only sacrificing the town services (which may now be less profitable due to successful competition from Midland Classic). As an added bonus it may free up some current Burton vehicles for cascade / replacing older vehicles due to reduced requirements & savings on engineering spares etc
How good are Burton's vehicles compared to Cannock's?
Would they transfer straight to Cannock or would they transfer elsewhere & Cannock gets inferior 'cheaper' vehicles?
'R2 NEG' now re-engined and back on the road
Quote from: John on May 17, 2016, 08:51:33 AM
'R2 NEG' now re-engined and back on the road
Excellent news.
Quote from: Westy on April 27, 2016, 09:01:28 PM
How good are Burton's vehicles compared to Cannock's?
Would they transfer straight to Cannock or would they transfer elsewhere & Cannock gets inferior 'cheaper' vehicles?
All of Burtons Cadets and Commanders have had repaints/refurbs in recent years. The deckers are still excellent. Versas and Pulsars still pretty tidy.
No they haven't. 3706 and 2716 are examples to the contrary.
The deckers may appear reasonably tidy but are time-expired.
Quote from: 646 on May 17, 2016, 05:18:14 PM
No they haven't. 3706 and 2716 are examples to the contrary.
The deckers may appear reasonably tidy but are time-expired.
3706 is pretty much as bad as all of 3701-4 were in cannock till they got a light retrim years after the others
Quote from: Bob on May 17, 2016, 05:34:47 PM
3706 is pretty much as bad as all of 3701-4 were in cannock till they got a light retrim years after the others
Don't forget though these entered Burtons fleet before the repaints of their existing SB200s.
Metrocity Number 5 attended the Potteries rally today.Looks very smart :)
Quote from: tjwpsv on March 18, 2016, 11:32:30 PM
Heading to Seaford & District for their new Eastbourne Sightseeing service.
Now in service there as TA6 SFZ 767
https://www.flickr.com/photos/130810902@N08/27241809615/in/datetaken/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/130810902@N08/27241809615/in/datetaken/)
77 and DAF Gemini LJ04LGE are on the 810 today.
78/81/85 are on the X12 today.
5 and 31 are on the Lichfield circulars today.
When midland classic start running the former arriva burton services will they be using the arriva ones with midland classic on over the arriva names or buying there own buses
I would have thought they will use the arriva buses at the start but gradually phase them out with new/second hand buses so they may just have the midland classic logos on the arriva livery. As for the buses themselves, I don't think midland classic will want the cadets/commanders but I think they will keep the versas and buy more favoured buses like Scanias or Optares second hand/new to replace the cadets/commanders. I think they may keep the DAF DB250s for mechanical parts to keep R2NEG going strong.
All of this is just my opinion so I may be wrong but this is what I would say
@Solo1
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 04, 2016, 03:43:20 PM
I would have thought they will use the arriva buses at the start but gradually phase them out with new/second hand buses so they may just have the midland classic logos on the arriva livery. As for the buses themselves, I don't think midland classic will want the cadets/commanders but I think they will keep the versas and buy more favoured buses like Scanias or Optares second hand/new to replace the cadets/commanders. I think they may keep the DAF DB250s for mechanical parts to keep R2NEG going strong.
All of this is just my opinion so I may be wrong but this is what I would say @Solo1
Versas staying with Arriva. The two DLA's aren't DDA so would only be good for parts.
Only buses to transfer are the 11 Commanders. 4 new Metrocity also in order.
James
Thanks both of you, thought there may be some new buses on order and good to here they are Metrocities as there isn't that many round here at the moment.
PD1050801/5 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Branston and Ashby Market Street given service number 9/19/19A/246 effective from 28-Aug-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PD1050801/13 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Stretton, Claymills Road and Dalebrook Estate given service number 17 effective from 28-Aug-2016. To amend Timetable.
PD1050801/15 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent and Sutton Coldfield given service number X12/X13 effective from 28-Aug-2016. To amend Timetable.
PD1050801/16 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent, New Street and Rough Hay, Acorn Inn given service number 10/11/810/811/812/813 effective from 28-Aug-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PD1050801/22 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent and Swadlincote given service number 4 effective from 28-Aug-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PD1050801/23 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent and Dalebrook given service number 18 effective from 28-Aug-2016. To amend Timetable.
PD1050801/24 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Cancellation Accepted: Operating between Burton Upon Trent, New Street and Burton Upon Trent, Anglesey Road given service number 11 effective from 28-Aug-2016.
PD1050801/26 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted: Operating between Burton upon Trent and Uttoxeter given service number 402/403 effective from 28-Aug-2016. To amend Route, Stopping Places and Timetable.
PD1050801/30 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Queens Hospital
Finish Point: Swadlingcote
Via: Burton, Winshill
Service Number: 3
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-AUG-2016
Other Details: Monday to Sunday
PD1050801/31 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Stapenhill
Finish Point: Horninglow
Via: Burton
Service Number: 2
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-AUG-2016
Other Details: Monday to Sunday
PD1050801/32 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Uttoxeter
Finish Point: Uttoxeter
Via: Holly Road
Service Number: 406
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 28-AUG-2016
Other Details: Monday to Saturday
It has now been revealed that several routes will be either be changed, cancelled or extended beginning on Sunday, August 28, the day the deal is due to be completed.
This includes:
Services 7 / 7A / 7B / 7E (Arriva Midlands, Burton - Lichfield) will be cancelled and replaced by Midland Classic services 11 / 810 / 811 / 812.
Service 8 (Queens Hospital - Burton - Swadlincote) will be operated by Midland Classic with a revised timetable and the route extended to Queens Hospital.
Services 9 / 19 (Midland Classic, Burton - Ashby) - Revised route and timetable, with 19A journeys cancelled, and most journeys no longer serving Queens Hospital (replaced by service 8 extension).
Service 9 (Arriva Midlands, Burton - Coalville) - Revised route and timetable, with evening journeys reduced and renumbered as 9.
Service 9A (Arriva Midlands, Burton - Coalville) - Revised timetable.
Service 10 (Midland Classic, Burton - Rough Hay) - Revised timetable.
Service 11 - Midland Classic Burton - Anglesey Road service will be extended to Barton-under-Needwood to replace Arriva Midlands 7A.
Other services are set to be affected by a revised timetable.
These include:
Service 17 (Midland Classic, Burton - Stretton) - Revised timetable.
Service 18 (Midland Classic, Burton - Dalebrook) - Revised timetable.
Services 402 / 403 (Midland Classic, Burton - Uttoxeter) - Revised route and timetable. 402X will be cancelled.
Service 406 - New half hourly, Monday to Saturday, Uttoxeter Town circular, to be operated by Midland Classic (replacing Arriva Midlands service 4).
Services 810 / 811 / 812 (Midland Classic, Burton - Lichfield) - Revised route and timetable, with additional 811 and 812 journeys to replace Arriva Midlands 7 / 7B and a new Sunday service to replace Arriva service 7E.
Swift service (Trent Barton, Derby - Uttoxeter) - Revised timetable.
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taken from
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http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/changes-to-bus-routes-in-burton-as-takeover-deal-nears-completion/story-29553245-detail/story.html
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I presume they have overlooked the 1, which becomes 401 according to Derbyshire.
Quote from: mikestone on July 26, 2016, 06:16:58 PM
It has now been revealed that several routes will be either be changed, cancelled or extended beginning on Sunday, August 28, the day the deal is due to be completed.
This includes:
Services 7 / 7A / 7B / 7E (Arriva Midlands, Burton - Lichfield) will be cancelled and replaced by Midland Classic services 11 / 810 / 811 / 812.
Service 8 (Queens Hospital - Burton - Swadlincote) will be operated by Midland Classic with a revised timetable and the route extended to Queens Hospital.
Services 9 / 19 (Midland Classic, Burton - Ashby) - Revised route and timetable, with 19A journeys cancelled, and most journeys no longer serving Queens Hospital (replaced by service 8 extension).
Service 9 (Arriva Midlands, Burton - Coalville) - Revised route and timetable, with evening journeys reduced and renumbered as 9.
Service 9A (Arriva Midlands, Burton - Coalville) - Revised timetable.
Service 10 (Midland Classic, Burton - Rough Hay) - Revised timetable.
Service 11 - Midland Classic Burton - Anglesey Road service will be extended to Barton-under-Needwood to replace Arriva Midlands 7A.
Other services are set to be affected by a revised timetable.
These include:
Service 17 (Midland Classic, Burton - Stretton) - Revised timetable.
Service 18 (Midland Classic, Burton - Dalebrook) - Revised timetable.
Services 402 / 403 (Midland Classic, Burton - Uttoxeter) - Revised route and timetable. 402X will be cancelled.
Service 406 - New half hourly, Monday to Saturday, Uttoxeter Town circular, to be operated by Midland Classic (replacing Arriva Midlands service 4).
Services 810 / 811 / 812 (Midland Classic, Burton - Lichfield) - Revised route and timetable, with additional 811 and 812 journeys to replace Arriva Midlands 7 / 7B and a new Sunday service to replace Arriva service 7E.
Swift service (Trent Barton, Derby - Uttoxeter) - Revised timetable.
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taken from
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http://www.burtonmail.co.uk/changes-to-bus-routes-in-burton-as-takeover-deal-nears-completion/story-29553245-detail/story.html
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I presume they have overlooked the 1, which becomes 401 according to Derbyshire.
Would you really expect the local paper to be accurate..? Yep, the 1's to Uttoxeter will become 401 but there will still be short workings I believe Burton to Tutbury numbered 1.
I presume it was a cut and paste from the update on the Staffordshire website which confirms what you say about the 1/401.
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The withdrawn 402Xs were positioning journeys which I presume will now be 401s - or are they opening an outstation?
Which buses are used on each route what service would N2neg be found on
Quote from: Solo1 on July 27, 2016, 02:26:58 PM
Which buses are used on each route what service would N2neg be found on
The X12 gets Scania L94UB and the occasional Enviro 200
Quote from: 2206 on July 27, 2016, 05:01:00 PM
The X12 gets Scania L94UB and the occasional Enviro 200
Did the X12 a couple of weeks ago with a DAF DB250LF on it...
I wouldn't say that Midland Classic routes have allocations as I have seen most types on most routes apart from the Metrocities which stay on circulars in Lichfield
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on July 27, 2016, 05:34:59 PM
I wouldn't say that Midland Classic routes have allocations as I have seen most types on most routes apart from the Metrocities which stay on circulars in Lichfield
The Sutton - Lichfield part of the X12 only gets Scania L94UB and Enviro 200, its rare for anything else to be on it.
@Dylanbusboy45
Quote from: 2206 on July 27, 2016, 05:39:28 PM
The Sutton - Lichfield part of the X12 only gets Scania L94UB and Enviro 200, its rare for anything else to be on it.
@Dylanbusboy45
Yes I would agree that part of the X12 is nearly always Scanias and E200s but most other routes seem
to get anything
PD1050801/33 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Derby
Finish Point: Burton
Via:
Service Number: X39
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 04-OCT-2016
Other Details: Daily
Quote from: Winston on August 12, 2016, 11:51:48 AM
PD1050801/33 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED T/A MIDLAND CLASSIC, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Registration Accepted
Starting Point: Derby
Finish Point: Burton
Via:
Service Number: X39
Service Type: Normal Stopping
Effective Date: 04-OCT-2016
Other Details: Daily
For Boots in Burton
Quote from: 646 on August 12, 2016, 12:41:10 PM
For Boots in Burton
I wasn't sure if it was in competition with Arriva X38, now the deal had been done to acquire Burton Op's
Presuably this years version of this from last year :https://www.flickr.com/photos/81543024@N06/23846284519
Quote from: 646 on August 12, 2016, 12:41:10 PM
For Boots in Burton
Boots are looking for all sorts of services to there
New timetables now on website. It looks as though they may be outstationing three buses in Uttoxeter.
Quote from: mikestone on August 15, 2016, 04:58:35 PM
New timetables now on website. It looks as though they may be outstationing three buses in Uttoxeter.
And brand new buses will be introduced on routes 2/2A. These will be Metrocitys I think
Arriva 3706-3716 will be joining the fleet from next Friday.
http://www.midlandclassic.com/news/2016/07/stevensons-90-event/
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Arriva 2711 Y351 UON also on loan at Burton renumbered as 211
Quote from: leepenfold30 on August 30, 2016, 06:29:11 AM
Arriva 2711 Y351 UON also on loan at Burton renumbered as 211
Looking at picture on Flickr this is numbered 209
New MetroCity YJ66 AOY parked up where buses lay over adjacent to New Street on Saturday
The 4 new Metrocities entered service on the 2 today. They are:
6 YJ66AOY
7 YJ66AOZ
8 YJ66APF
9 YJ66APK
A few observations although I wouldn't say there is route allocations:
55 (Stevensons Scania)/110 (ex Arriva 3710) on the X12
41 (R2NEG) on the 21
Ex Arriva Commanders seemed to be spread out amongst most routes
Midland classic have just had four new metrocities they are so you can update the fleet list
6 YJ66 AOY
7 YJ66 AOZ
8 YJ66 APF
9 YJ66 APK
Photo of the four new metrocities together
There are also four DAF/Wt, the first too at least having been there some time
46 LJ04LFV
47 LJ04LGA
48 LJ04LGD
49 LJ04LGE
and it is reported elsewhere two deckers on loan from Notts and Derby too. I wonder if there might be more tomorrow when the schools return.
Midland Classic are holding a Stevensons 90 Event. All details including timetable and buses running in service are available via the link below:
http://www.midlandclassic.com/media/2021/90-timetable.pdf
A visit to Burton on Wednesday produced in 2.5 hrs the majority of the fleet including BV55 UCU in full fleet livery with fleet no 56.
It seems the ex Arriva depot at Wetmore Road is being used for vehicles coming in for servcing a this was fairly busy with the Midland Classic depot only had 2 deckers on site & 1 single decker on the ramps.
I was also there on Wednesday - TFA13 was on slightly late 14.55 X12 from Burton, presumably for schools use after arrival.
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Buses were also parked on the park behind the Octagon Centre, which I hadn't seen used recently, while one bus did a three point turn in the entrance to the car pak in New Street.
Quote from: mikestone on August 25, 2016, 11:14:38 PM
http://www.midlandclassic.com/news/2016/07/stevensons-90-event/
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seen were
G918LHA
TFA13 now with Stevensons fleetnames
F96PRE
TOJ592S
798UXA
DOC26V
TMS405X
KCG627L
KLB596
1294RE depot
MFA703G
MFR41P
R2NEG
XBF423X, in Stevenson's livery as 14, also carrying reg plate UVT14X
KLB908
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How many buses are used on Saturday On the burton services
Quote from: mikestone on September 11, 2016, 10:45:58 PM
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seen were
G918LHA
TFA13 now with Stevensons fleetnames
F96PRE
TOJ592S
798UXA
DOC26V
TMS405X
KCG627L
KLB596
1294RE depot
MFA703G
MFR41P
R2NEG
XBF423X, in Stevenson's livery as 14, also carrying reg plate UVT14X
KLB908
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MFR41P may have been ORS60R in disguise as there is a photo of the latter in Stevenson's livery on today's POPS programme.
How long has F96PRE been owned - the photo on the main website is dated June with an LED destination, but on the running day it had a roller blind and was still carrying the Harrogate legal address?
F 96 PRE is now displaying Midland Classic legal lettering and as been operating the X38 Boots distribution centre Burton to Derbyshire service most days this week.
The ex Arriva stuff midland classic has running with midland classic names over the arriva one will they repaint them or will they be getting some more new buses
Quote from: Solo1 on September 28, 2016, 12:12:06 PM
The ex Arriva stuff midland classic has running with midland classic names over the arriva one will they repaint them or will they be getting some more new buses
One of them has already been repainted, 111 I think, graphed it in Burton on Saturday so would suspect the others will get painted as well.
Did you see TFA13 - if so has retained its Stevenson's fleetnames?
Quote from: mikestone on September 28, 2016, 01:53:22 PM
Did you see TFA13 - if so has retained its Stevenson's fleetnames?
yes it has saw it a few weeks back in Burton
Quote from: mikestone on September 28, 2016, 01:53:22 PM
Did you see TFA13 - if so has retained its Stevenson's fleetnames?
Yes, graphed that on Saturday still with its Stevensons names.
There was a Reading Buses Olympus in the 812 today
Quote from: Cheese on September 28, 2016, 03:44:33 PM
Yes, graphed that on Saturday still with its Stevensons names.
photo on my flicr site stanjack
There is 2 Olympus Scanias in use with Midland Classic according to the Derby Bus Depot. They are YN08HYO/HYP and were used on the Woodley services at Reading which is now being upgraded with new Streetdecks so I would say that Midland Classic has purchased them
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on October 05, 2016, 04:49:54 PM
There is 2 Olympus Scanias in use with Midland Classic according to the Derby Bus Depot. They are YN08HYO/HYP and were used on the Woodley services at Reading which is now being upgraded with new Streetdecks so I would say that Midland Classic has purchased them
The two Reading Buses Olympuses on LOAN ARE 852 and 853. There is a MetroCity demonstrator too.
PD1050801/15 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Burton Upon Trent and Sutton Coldfield given service number X12/X13 effective from 17-Oct-2016. To amend Timetable.
PD1050801/16 - MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED, UNIT 5, 290 STANTON ROAD, BURTON-ON-TRENT, DE15 9SQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Burton Upon Trent, New Street and Rough Hay, Acorn Inn given service number 10/11/810/811/812/813 effective from 17-Oct-2016. To amend Timetable.
http://www.midlandclassic.com/news/2016/10/service-changes-17-october/
Looks to be just some changes to the school time workings.
Two Reading Buses Optare Olympus's seem to be on loan, one is numbered 57
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/30063148052/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/30376777371/
Quote from: John on October 21, 2016, 01:52:57 PM
Two Reading Buses Optare Olympus's seem to be on loan, one is numbered 57
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/30063148052/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/55432463@N08/30376777371/
57 is Reading 852, 58 is Reading 853.
853 at least is still here , as is metrocity demo altho it seemed to be garage runabout with a solo on the 2.
R2NEG on 17 today
Just seen some of the commanders on eBay courtesy of
@Busman Jamie
Quote from: ntw456 on November 22, 2016, 02:48:57 PM
Just seen some of the commanders on eBay courtesy of @Busman Jamie
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-52-DAF-SB200-WRIGHTS-COMMANDER-44-SEAT-DDA-BUS-CHOICE-OF-10-BUSES-/282262938963?hash=item41b82ea553:g:MqUAAOSw5cNYMjad
10 of them!
Quote from: Adam 404 on November 22, 2016, 03:24:09 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-52-DAF-SB200-WRIGHTS-COMMANDER-44-SEAT-DDA-BUS-CHOICE-OF-10-BUSES-/282262938963?hash=item41b82ea553:g:MqUAAOSw5cNYMjad
10 of them!
That's all but the repainted one (111-BF52NZX) then I'm guessing
What are they buying to replace the ex Arriva ones that
are up for sale
I believe 222upd is Mr. James, late of Invincible.
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I did wonder if they had their eye on some replacements with only 111 being repainted - and are they expecting some new(ish) deckers, having had two hired from Notts & Derby, seemingly replaced by the Reading pair?
Was in Burton for a few hours today. Metrocitys seem to cover most Sunday services and Enviro 200 1-JB14MCL was out too on the 812. Loaned Metrocity 212-YJ16DAA still at Midland Classic. It was on the 401 today.
Allocations for today were:
2E-Metrocity 5 YJ16DXU (normally used in Lichfield on Mon-Sat)
8-Metrocitys 8/9 YJ66APF/APK
401-Metrocity 212 YJ16DDA (on loan)
812-Enviro 200 1 JB14MCL
Didn't see the 21E or X39
Hello,
The following is planned.
Friday 30 December
Leyland Olympian F96PRE will operate the following:
X12 0930 Burton to Sutton Coldfield
X12 1033 Sutton Coldfield to Burton
X12 1430 Burton to Sutton Coldfield
X12 1538 Sutton Coldfield to Burton
Saturday 31 December
Most journeys on route 21 will be operated by our Routemaster, F96 and TOJ592S.
All subject to vehicle availability.
James
Quote from: James on December 29, 2016, 05:33:01 PM
Hello,
The following is planned.
Friday 30 December
Leyland Olympian F96PRE will operate the following:
X12 0930 Burton to Sutton Coldfield
X12 1033 Sutton Coldfield to Burton
X12 1430 Burton to Sutton Coldfield
X12 1538 Sutton Coldfield to Burton
Saturday 31 December
Most journeys on route 21 will be operated by our Routemaster, F96 and TOJ592S.
All subject to vehicle availability.
James
Anybody going?
Best way to burton centre from rail station?
Thanks
Quote from: Trident 4194 on December 31, 2016, 09:00:14 AM
Best way to burton centre from rail station?
Thanks
Turn right out the station and walk.
Failing that the bus stop on the other side of the road has plenty of choice.
Quote from: Ashley 60171 on December 31, 2016, 09:04:12 AM
Turn right out the station and walk.
Failing that the bus stop on the other side of the road has plenty of choice.
Thankyou
@Ashley 60171
Scania Wright Solars 86/82/81 and DAF Pulsar Gemini 45 are on the X12 today.
I thought the X12 needed 3 buses but I saw 4 buses on there today at Lichfield
Scania Wright Solar 88 seemed to be a spare bus at Lichfield
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on January 03, 2017, 04:38:06 PM
Scania Wright Solars 86/82/81 and DAF Pulsar Gemini 45 are on the X12 today.
I thought the X12 needed 3 buses but I saw 4 buses on there today at Lichfield
Scania Wright Solar 88 seemed to be a spare bus at Lichfield
I think the Burton-Lichfield X12s interwork with another route in Burton
Quote from: John on January 03, 2017, 06:09:37 PM
I think the Burton-Lichfield X12s interwork with another route in Burton
Oh right. Many Thanks
@John
Quote from: John on January 03, 2017, 06:09:37 PM
I think the Burton-Lichfield X12s interwork with another route in Burton
@John They interwork with the 812 on both ends, i believe, as the past twice i did the 812, it changed to an X12 at Lichfield
Quote from: Alex on January 03, 2017, 08:19:44 PM
@John They interwork with the 812 on both ends, i believe, as the past twice i did the 812, it changed to an X12 at Lichfield
Ok thanks
@Alex :)
Former NXWM 4002 Spectra R2NEG has been sold to Lynx Bus,Kings Lynn according to
http://www.stevenknightmedia.com/fleet-news-ramblings
Wonder why they sold it didn't last long at midland classic
Quote from: Solo1 on January 07, 2017, 10:51:22 AM
Wonder why they sold it didn't last long at midland classic
According to the Norwich Bus Page it is only on loan to Lynx for 5 weeks.
http://www.norwichbuspage.com/
Quote from: Cheese on January 07, 2017, 04:53:50 PM
According to the Norwich Bus Page it is only on loan to Lynx for 5 weeks.
http://www.norwichbuspage.com/
When I looked earlier on there they hadn't posting anything but I did think there would be a post on there about it sometime soon. I did think it hadn't stayed at Midland Classic very long
There must be other firms nearer to loan buses rather than midland classic in Burton
Steven Knight posting dud gen.it's just a loan. Funny that a load of scousers today thought it was step entrance and new to Stevenson's. Didn't jump in with the correct history so don't start on me.
Any one heard what is happening to the ex Arriva DAF Commanders that were up for sale on e-bay? Caught a glimpse of one the other day in Burton obviously in service as it had a good load. Also saw a Enviro 200 in a red livery with Midland Classic stickers. Only caught part of the reg which was YX09 any news on that?
Quote from: Grinder on February 16, 2017, 09:02:51 AM
Any one heard what is happening to the ex Arriva DAF Commanders that were up for sale on e-bay? Caught a glimpse of one the other day in Burton obviously in service as it had a good load. Also saw a Enviro 200 in a red livery with Midland Classic stickers. Only caught part of the reg which was YX09 any news on that?
There are two,
32 - YX09FMP
33 - YX09FLN
According to the Alexander Dennis body listing they come from a batch supplied new to Centrewest, 7 of them are on the D & G Bus's website fleet list.
Any sign of the ex Arriva Daf Commanders, Reading deckers or the 2 Enviro 200's having a repaint into fleet colours ?
The commanders were for sale not so long ago
Revised timetables from 9th April now on website.
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http://www.midlandclassic.com/media/2061/X12-9417.pdf
Quote from: mikestone on March 23, 2017, 10:27:31 PM
Revised timetables from 9th April now on website.
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http://www.midlandclassic.com/media/2061/X12-9417.pdf
A fair few changes happening from this date: http://www.midlandclassic.com/news/2017/03/service-changes-9-april-2017/
To note: 2A withdrawn and replaced by revised 1 & 22 service (Service 2 increased to Every 20 mins)
The Dennis Falcon fleet no 12 should be moved to the 'still owned' part of the fleet list as it has been out of use for some time with engine trouble. It is currently being restored, see Project Falcon on Facebook.
Midland Classic have purchased another Wright Solar from Reading Buses YN57FWG but this one is slightly different from the rest as it is on the Scania K230UB chassis
https://www.flickr.com/photos/twinbuses/33936897565/in/dateposted/
The Enviro's 32 and 33 and the ex Reading deckers 57 and 58 all now in fleet colours. Ex Reading Scania/Wright Solar is fleet no 75. Ex Arriva Commanders 107, 108, 109 and 113 have all been withdrawn.
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on April 09, 2017, 08:15:20 PM
Midland Classic have purchased another Wright Solar from Reading Buses YN57FWG but this one is slightly different from the rest as it is on the Scania K230UB chassis
https://www.flickr.com/photos/twinbuses/33936897565/in/dateposted/
Now repainted. It is fleetnumber 75
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127786776@N04/33899546021/in/pool-1511094@N20
Quote from: Grinder on March 30, 2017, 09:27:23 AM
The Dennis Falcon fleet no 12 should be moved to the 'still owned' part of the fleet list as it has been out of use for some time with engine trouble. It is currently being restored, see Project Falcon on Facebook.
No it shouldn't - project falcon say it is a private preservation project and the bus has been donated to them.
Fleet no 21 has been re-registered HK 62 MCL from YN 62 AAK
Derbybusdepot website says the Spectra has been modified and is back in service.y
https://www.flickr.com/gp/92409298@N06/si1c06
Wright Scania 78 operated Rail Replacement service from Nuneaton to Coventry serving intermediate stations this evening covering for failed class 153.
Midland Classic are currently using a Reading Buses OmniCity. 'YN08 MMA', the Facebook poster is unsure if it is on loan or brought from Reading
From what Im reading on Facebook, MC are providing excellent info regarding delays in Burton & answering feedback.
Sure a few companies round here ought to be able to do the same!
According to a couple of posts on Facebook, it appears Midland Classic are now operating on Amazon routes. I believe they are doing journeys on the A5 and A51 alongside NX? I'm not too sure though.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on September 17, 2017, 11:01:57 PM
According to a couple of posts on Facebook, it appears Midland Classic are now operating on Amazon routes. I believe they are doing journeys on the A5 and A51 alongside NX? I'm not too sure though.
Saw one of the Wright double decks on there this morning heading towards Lichfield 47 I think.
The bush telegraph suggests that Julian Peddle (Centrebus / Midland Classic) has acquired 10, 12 plate, E200s through Manheim auctions in Coventry. The vehicles were new to First London but passed to Tower Transit when First disposed of its London operations.
YX12 AYZ and YX12 DJE are currently at the Midland Repair Centre, Derby, for work and are thought to be for Midland Classic. Time will no doubt tell.
Quote from: 47609FireFly on October 29, 2017, 02:09:34 PM
The bush telegraph suggests that Julian Peddle (Centrebus / Midland Classic) has acquired 10, 12 plate, E200s through Manheim auctions in Coventry. The vehicles were new to First London but passed to Tower Transit when First disposed of its London operations.
YX12 AYZ and YX12 DJE are currently at the Midland Repair Centre, Derby, for work and are thought to be for Midland Classic. Time will no doubt tell
wonder if these will see tbecformer arriva buses off
Five reported to be for centrebus. D&G seem a good bet for some as they appear to have an increased PVR of 3 from late November
YX12 DJD and YX12 AZW reported to be in Midland Classic yard. Both are E20D B29D and were new to Centrewest 6/12 according to 'buslistontheweb.co.uk'
YX12 AFZ, YX12 AGZ and YX12 AYF were noted parked in the yard of Centrebus' Wenlock Way depot, in Leicester, on 31/10/2017.
Scania K230UB/Wright Solar YN57FWG noted on the 0940 London Midland Rail Replacement to Tame Bridge this morning
Midland Classic 57, YN08HYO is on the X12 today and was in Sutton Coldfield at about 12:50 today. First time I've seen a Midland Classic Double Decker get to Sutton Coldfield.
It was operating the 12:55 - Sutton Coldfield to Burton Upon Trent.
Quote from: 2206 on November 11, 2017, 02:23:07 PM
Midland Classic 57, YN08HYO is on the X12 today and was in Sutton Coldfield at about 12:50 today. First time I've seen a Midland Classic Double Decker get to Sutton Coldfield.
It was operating the 12:55 - Sutton Coldfield to Burton Upon Trent.
The 09:50, 10:50 and 11:50 X12 ex Burton are all DD operated, all the rest are SD.
Quote from: 2206 on November 11, 2017, 02:23:07 PM
Midland Classic 57, YN08HYO is on the X12 today and was in Sutton Coldfield at about 12:50 today. First time I've seen a Midland Classic Double Decker get to Sutton Coldfield.
It was operating the 12:55 - Sutton Coldfield to Burton Upon Trent.
R2 NEG (4002) has done the X12 a few times.
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 11, 2017, 03:07:54 PM
The 09:50, 10:50 and 11:50 X12 ex Burton are all DD operated, all the rest are SD.
Do deckers do any departures from Sutton?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 12, 2017, 08:43:04 PM
Do deckers do any departures from Sutton?
Well I'd guess so, how else are they gonna get back to burton?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 12, 2017, 08:43:04 PM
Do deckers do any departures from Sutton?
If they operate the, 09:50, 10:50 and 11:50 from Burton to Sutton Coldfield then they operate the, 10:55, 11:55 and 12:55 from Sutton Coldfield back to Burton.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on November 12, 2017, 08:43:04 PM
Do deckers do any departures from Sutton?
<facepalm> Yes, they need to come back to Burton upon Trent!
10:55, 11:55, and 12:55 ex Sutton Coldfield.
Quote from: 47609FireFly on October 31, 2017, 09:42:45 PM
YX12 AFZ, YX12 AGZ and YX12 AYF were noted parked in the yard of Centrebus' Wenlock Way depot, in Leicester, on 31/10/2017.
YX12AYF has appeared on D&G'S fleetlist as no.3, along with YX12AOF and YX12AON which are 1 and 2.
Quote from: P419 EJW on November 11, 2017, 03:07:54 PM
The 09:50, 10:50 and 11:50 X12 ex Burton are all DD operated, all the rest are SD.
A Gemini decker operated the 17:08 X12 from Sutton Coldfield this afternoon.
Quote from: 2206 on December 27, 2017, 11:27:17 PM
A Gemini decker operated the 17:08 X12 from Sutton Coldfield this afternoon.
That's an unusual sighting at that time of the day.
Scania L94UB/Wright Solar YN05 GXG has joined the Midland Classic fleet as no. 74.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/151712892@N07/43812654471/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/524134/
Midland Classic will be operating in Erdington, Witton and Perry Barr on the X11 to Boots Burton over the next few months from September.
Quote from: 2206 on August 13, 2018, 10:58:23 AM
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/524134/
Midland Classic will be operating in Erdington, Witton and Perry Barr on the X11 to Boots Burton over the next few months from September.
what will be used on there deckers or sigle
Normally deckers
Quote from: Busman Jamie on August 13, 2018, 07:22:28 PM
Normally deckers
If anyone's interested on what that could look like, here you go. :D
(https://i.imgur.com/G15Nsgt.jpg)
I'm not sure on the exact route it'll take, but I took a guess with it going via Lichfield.
The repaint looks great but all it needs is a good map to put it into use. Saying that i'm planing on making an extension to the Birmingham map to mere green and Lichfield
Quote from: StourValley98 on August 13, 2018, 08:01:24 PM
I'm not sure on the exact route it'll take, but I took a guess with it going via Lichfield.
When Central Buses ran it it went via Kingsbury Road, the A38 at Swinfen Hall, appeared to avoid Lichfield city centre but called at Trent Valley Island, then via the A38 past Fradley - see http://www.midlandclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/bootsleaflet.pdf
Quote from: Smethwickian on August 14, 2018, 02:08:29 PM
When Central Buses ran it it went via Kingsbury Road, the A38 at Swinfen Hall, appeared to avoid Lichfield city centre but called at Trent Valley Island, then via the A38 past Fradley - see http://www.midlandclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/bootsleaflet.pdf
Looks pretty much the same except this time it isn't going via Trent Valley Island according to the route description, just straight up the A38.
Just seen a Midland Classic Gemini in Balsall Common on Kenilworth Road. Presumably some sort of rail replacement/private hire.
Quote from: MW on August 25, 2018, 08:44:30 AM
Just seen a Midland Classic Gemini in Balsall Common on Kenilworth Road. Presumably some sort of rail replacement/private hire.
rail birmingham international to coventry
Quote from: Solo1 on August 25, 2018, 11:41:31 AM
rail birmingham international to coventry
That's right. I had a great ride on DAF/Gemini 44 from Coventry to International, calling at all stations, this afternoon. A similar Midland Classic Gemini followed us, and near Berkswell Station we passed a couple of Midland Classic pink ex-Reading Scanias en route from International to Rugby via all stations.
Quote from: Justin Tyme on August 25, 2018, 08:58:50 PM
That's right. I had a great ride on DAF/Gemini 44 from Coventry to International, calling at all stations, this afternoon. A similar Midland Classic Gemini followed us, and near Berkswell Station we passed a couple of Midland Classic pink ex-Reading Scanias en route from International to Rugby via all stations.
I saw Gemini on the X12 aswell
Stevensons-liveried 55 was parked up at International today on rail replacement.
Seen at the Burton depot today E400 SN11 BMU with fleet number 211 on loan for evaluation to replace some deckers.
Quote from: broma1k on September 13, 2018, 09:02:18 PM
Seen at the Burton depot today E400 SN11 BMU with fleet number 211 on loan for evaluation to replace some deckers.
Did you take a picture by any chance if so if you want could you give us the link please
Possible replacement/loan for fire damaged 44 ?
On 'Bus Lists On The Web' SN11BMU comes up as a Dennis Trident 2 with an Alexander ALX400 body and new to First Capital in 2011
Quote from: Grinder on September 14, 2018, 08:23:19 AM
On 'Bus Lists On The Web' SN11BMU comes up as a Dennis Trident 2 with an Alexander ALX400 body and new to First Capital in 2011
Certainly not an ALX400
https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safari&hl=en-gb&biw=1280&bih=854&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=VmybW7mGFceXgAa-zwo&q=sn11bmu&oq=sn11bmu&gs_l=img.12...0.0.0.9685.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1c..64.img..0.0.0....0.P0ZikeSb-bI
Sorry I have misunderstood the AD Tt in the description AD Tt SFD1DSBRGBGXB592. Error based on reading Tt as Trident as per LK51UZO Ds Tt SFD339BR21GX21608
Quote from: Grinder on September 14, 2018, 02:13:47 PM
Sorry I have misunderstood the AD Tt in the description AD Tt SFD1DSBRGBGXB592. Error based on reading Tt as Trident as per LK51UZO Ds Tt SFD339BR21GX21608
I'm think the pre facelift Enviro 400s are AD Tridents and then the facelifts were named AD E40D. Facelifts were around 61 plate.
1 74 & I think it was 3 metrocitys on rail replacement to Rugeley wonder who else was on today
Select, D&G and coastal liner
There was Coastal Liner SB200 YG52 EVY, Select Solo MX54 KYF, Midland Classic MetroCity's YJ66 AOY and YJ16 DXT, L94UB YN04 ANX, D&G MetroCity YJ65 EVP, E200 YX14 RZA, Versa YJ57 XWB, and I also think I saw a Midland Classic E200 go past me the other way, all on rail replacement today. Some were just going between Bescot Stadium and Tame Bridge Parkway, and the rest from Tame Bridge to Walsall, then all stations to Rugeley TV. I'm not sure why they weren't all starting from Walsall, as trains were running between Tame Bridge Parkway and Walsall today.
According to a post on the train forum Midland Classic have won the 53.
53 Erdington to Smiths Wood - via Nechells, Saltley, Alum Rock, Bordesley Green, Heartlands Hospital, Stechford, Shard End, Buckland End and Castle Bromwich.
Therefore operating in areas of East Birmingham that they have never operated in before.
I wander what they'll use?
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/west-midlands-bus-network-review-s.129378/page-3#post-3641661
Just thinking aloud.... Possibility of setting up an outstation in a depot previously vacated or using space in another operators yard with spare capacity...
Operating tendered service 53 from the Perry Barr or Hockley area would work well and would fit with timetables for X11, JL1 and a central base for rail replacement work.
Quote from: fleetline6477 on September 17, 2018, 10:38:27 PM
Just thinking aloud.... Possibility of setting up an outstation in a depot previously vacated or using space in another operators yard with spare capacity...
Operating tendered service 53 from the Perry Barr or Hockley area would work well and would fit with timetables for X11, JL1 and a central base for rail replacement work.
X11 / JL1 are only seasonal services though finishing early January
53 is being reduced to a 2 bus working from October
it wouldnt surprise me at all if they dont use the central buses depot on perry barr as geoff cross still uses it for his private hires and there is plenty of room. Plus Mr Cross had a lot of dealings with Midland Classic and D&G
They may do 2 positioning journeys on the X12. No point with all the expense of an outstation for a couple of buses for one roure
Another route registered from 5 November is JL1 Birmingham Bristol Street to Redditch I Force
Quote from: 2206 on September 17, 2018, 07:16:56 AM
According to a post on the train forum Midland Classic have won the 53.
53 Erdington to Smiths Wood - via Nechells, Saltley, Alum Rock, Bordesley Green, Heartlands Hospital, Stechford, Shard End, Buckland End and Castle Bromwich.
Therefore operating in areas of East Birmingham that they have never operated in before.
I wander what they'll use?
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/west-midlands-bus-network-review-s.129378/page-3#post-3641661
MC have turned down the award
Quote from: metrocity on September 28, 2018, 08:03:28 PM
MC have turned down the award
So who will be running the 53
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 28, 2018, 08:05:02 PM
So who will be running the 53
Back out to tender again (for a 3rd time)
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 28, 2018, 08:05:02 PM
So who will be running the 53
I would love to see nx on it. Give up pretending to care about the 66 and have it just run city - stab city and the 53 can provide the link from Nechells up to Erdington
Quote from: Kevin on September 30, 2018, 07:26:47 PM
I would love to see nx on it. Give up pretending to care about the 66 and have it just run city - stab city and the 53 can provide the link from Nechells up to Erdington
Stab city? Is it that bad
@Kevin?
Quote from: Trident 4194 on September 30, 2018, 08:28:00 PM
Stab city? Is it that bad @Kevin?
I'll be honest it was mostly auto correct, because it's referred to like that quite often lol
Honestly it's better than it used to be, ergo it got that nickname
Quote from: metrocity on September 28, 2018, 09:05:56 PM
Back out to tender again (for a 3rd time)
Speaking as a 'armchair expert', I was surprised they'd come down that far from Burton in the first place!
Quote from: metrocity on September 28, 2018, 09:05:56 PM
Back out to tender again (for a 3rd time)
Well discount travel solutions or claribels might get it
Just a thought
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on September 30, 2018, 09:11:28 PM
Well discount travel solutions or claribels might get it
Just a thought
Extremly unlikely.
Can't see that happening.
Quote from: 2206 on September 30, 2018, 10:14:00 PM
Extremly unlikely.
Can't see that happening.
Could say the same about Travel Express picking up the tender for Bilston route 303!!
Quote from: fleetline6477 on October 01, 2018, 06:58:35 PM
Could say the same about Travel Express picking up the tender for Bilston route 303!!
I looked at the operators licesnce as well from DTS.
They currently have 6 buses on there.
They currently use:
- 2 on the 11C.
- 2 on the 11A.
- 1 on the 72.
- 1 on the 966 (Monday only).
Total of 6.
So even though that is true, they don't appear to have enough buses on that operators licence to operate it on top of what they already have.
I'm sure Travel Express had an extension to there operators lisence not long before winning the 303 as well.
Social, one of the related operators, would have enough though, though they would need more buses and drivers to operate it (they only seem to have one driver now (its the the same driver everyday) and one bus (SK51AYC) now.
You're forgetting RK travel & Sunny Travel.
To be fair TE's depot & the 303 is a lot closer than Burton & East Brum!
Quote from: metrocity on September 28, 2018, 09:05:56 PM
Back out to tender again (for a 3rd time)
Has it been awarded to an operator yet?
Quote from: 2206 on October 12, 2018, 06:01:39 PM
Has it been awarded to an operator yet?
Diamond have won it back (they used to have it prior to Igo), I see.
Does anyone know if this is to be operated from Tividale, or if Redditch will get it?
Registration on VOSA - https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/526268/
There timetable is also now on Traveline WM - http://travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=18053&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EFA03_60465238&lineVer=2&itdLPxx_spTr=2&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=DIA
OmniCity 'YN08 MKO' is now repainted in fleet livery
Quote from: John on November 02, 2018, 08:45:28 AM
OmniCity 'YN08 MKO' is now repainted in fleet livery
nice i did like the pink though
Quote from: I love Walsall buses on November 02, 2018, 04:49:25 PM
crimson or red and white
Midland Classic fleet livery is red & yellow
Quote from: Winston on November 02, 2018, 04:50:08 PM
Midland Classic fleet livery is red & yellow
i know got confused with nxwm then i saw it was in midland classic and edited my post
sorry for any inconvenience caused by this mixup
There was a Midland Classic Gemini on Park Street in Birmingham City Centre at about 16:00.
Does anyone know what it was doing?
Could it be on the John Lewis?
Quote from: Busman Jamie on November 17, 2018, 05:10:31 PM
Could it be on the John Lewis?
It was out of service and the JL1 doesn't go to Park Street.
16:00 seems a bit early to be going to start the 17:25 (If the timetable on Traveline WM is correct from Holloway Circus as well if it was going to start the JL1 from Holloway Circus?
Quote from: 2206 on November 17, 2018, 05:00:07 PM
There was a Midland Classic Gemini on Park Street in Birmingham City Centre at about 16:00.
Does anyone know what it was doing?
it could be a party from burton for the German market
About 5 times in the past few weeks I've noticed a Midland Classic bus on the A435 around Becketts Farm & Maypole heading towards Birmingham between 7.30am and 8am.
This morning it was a Gemini. Probably the same one.
Quote from: MW on November 17, 2018, 08:41:16 PM
About 5 times in the past few weeks I've noticed a Midland Classic bus on the A435 around Becketts Farm & Maypole heading towards Birmingham between 7.30am and 8am.
This morning it was a Gemini. Probably the same one.
Presumably on its way back from the morning contract run to Redditch iForce logistics centre (which has a contract for John Lewis order fulfilment, hence the references to that department store) - timetable here http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=55JL1&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EFA03_32604598&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=MDC
Quote from: Smethwickian on November 18, 2018, 11:20:31 AM
Presumably on its way back from the morning contract run to Redditch iForce logistics centre (which has a contract for John Lewis order fulfilment, hence the references to that department store) - timetable here http://www.travelinemidlands.co.uk/wmtis/XSLT_TTB_REQUEST?language=en&command=direct&net=cen&line=55JL1&sup=%20&itdLPxx_direction=H&project=y11&outputFormat=0&itdLPxx_displayHeader=false&itdLPxx_sessionID=EFA03_32604598&lineVer=1&itdLPxx_spTr=1&itdLPxx_operatorCodeForTTB=MDC
Yeah, it must be. Spotted it again this morning at about 7.30 in Redditch.
Is 41 (R2 NEG) still used in service? If so, is there a particular service it stays on?
Quote from: CL on January 02, 2019, 03:56:12 AM
Is 41 (R2 NEG) still used in service? If so, is there a particular service it stays on?
The last I heard was that it was out of service with issues or something along those lines.
Quote from: StourValley98 on January 02, 2019, 05:45:26 AM
The last I heard was that it was out of service with issues or something along those lines.
Cheers for the reply. I hope it's nothing too serious! If she's on her last legs, then I think a trip to Burton is soon in order. Frankly, I'd be devastated if she was withdrawn.
On ukbuses it says R2NEG withdrawn but it might be just off the rd
I was in the City Centre in the Evening Peak tonight:
55 in Stevensons livery was on Smallbrook Queensway on the JL1 to John Lewis in Redditch.
An Optare Metrocity was on the A52 at Old Square where it terminated, is this no longer an NX route
@Tony, I thought it was being operated by BC?
Quote from: 2206 on January 02, 2019, 07:34:56 PM
I was in the City Centre in the Evening Peak tonight:
55 in Stevensons livery was on Smallbrook Queensway on the JL1 to John Lewis in Redditch.
An Optare Metrocity was on the A52 at Old Square where it terminated, is this no longer an NX route @Tony, I thought it was being operated by BC?
@2206 I could be wrong but I think MD do it Monday-Friday and NX do it Saturday and Sunday if that helps
also after its done the JL1 in Birmingham it will go to Perry Barr and complete one round trip of the X11 and head back to the garage
Quote from: 2206 on January 02, 2019, 07:34:56 PM
I was in the City Centre in the Evening Peak tonight:
55 in Stevensons livery was on Smallbrook Queensway on the JL1 to John Lewis in Redditch.
An Optare Metrocity was on the A52 at Old Square where it terminated, is this no longer an NX route @Tony, I thought it was being operated by BC?
Think they duplicate it, saw both running together early morning 27th Dec
The 11 reg E400s are H45/26+4F.
Anyone know how many vehicles are on rt X12 burton to Sutton Coldfield on a Saturday ? Seen on rt X12 today fleet no. 78,81 as its last day of midland classic running service into West Midlands
Quote from: Wright liberator on April 27, 2019, 11:39:36 AM
Anyone know how many vehicles are on rt X12 burton to Sutton Coldfield on a Saturday ? Seen on rt X12 today fleet no. 78,81 as its last day of midland classic running service into West Midlands
They interwork all day so should keep on changing, 89 will be the next one as per vehicle tracking
Ok thanks so they'll be more than 3 buses on x12 then ?
Quote from: Wright liberator on April 27, 2019, 12:37:59 PM
Ok thanks so they'll be more than 3 buses on x12 then ?
Should be yes, just keep watching https://bustimes.org/services/x12-burton-lichfield-sutton-coldfield as they should show up on there upon being logged onto the route in Burton
Quote from: Dylanbusboy45 on April 27, 2019, 01:17:09 PM
Should be yes, just keep watching https://bustimes.org/services/x12-burton-lichfield-sutton-coldfield as they should show up on there upon being logged onto the route in Burton
. Ok thanks never knew there was a page like that really useful
Enviro 200 was on the X12 today fleetnumber 3
R2NEG reported to have gone to Mike James on the Derby Bus Depot site.
Quote from: mikestone on April 29, 2019, 09:37:36 PM
R2NEG reported to have gone to Mike James on the Derby Bus Depot site.
The same one who ran 'North Warwickshire Travel', which was banned?
Presumably in his capacity as a dealer as it says he has taken the Gemini.s too.
Quote from: mikestone on April 29, 2019, 09:37:36 PM
R2NEG reported to have gone to Mike James on the Derby Bus Depot site.
had a look on the website now based in Derby bit Tamworth hi think another firm in now where Mike was
Surprised to see the X12 now seems to be Enviro.s, but a Scania on one of the Lichfield city services.
There's a scania on the Lichfield circulars as it does a school morning and afternoon
Noticed a repainted in Burton colours vehicle in Lichfield earlier.
Quote from: Westy on May 11, 2019, 05:19:54 PM
Noticed a repainted in Burton colours vehicle in Lichfield earlier.
I'm presuming that'd be bus number 63. It's been painted in Burton colours since early February.
For those who haven't seen on social media, Enviro 200s 1 and 2 have been repainted into a new livery for the X12 Flyer. Similar Flyer logos to those that were carried by the Solars (81/82?). Livery is still red and yellow, with added black curves
Edit, found link via Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/jamesboddice44/status/1151533617241366530
A service from Smethwick to Burton - presumably a Boots works service - from 23rd September.
Does the 813 still run?
Surprised to see Wright double deck 47 in Lichfield this lunchtime thought these had been sold.
Surprised to see Wright double deck 47 in Lichfield this lunchtime thought these had been sold.
Passed to a dealer recently then returned & put back into service.
Midland classic 87 up for sale on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2001-Y-SCANIA-L94-WRIGHTS-SOLAR-43-SEAT-40-BELTED-PSVAR-BUS/283595783218?hash=item4207a03c32:g:HDIAAOSwXWddZZ4C
Are any of the ex arriva commanders still sitting at Wetmore Road depot?
Quote from: broma1k on August 27, 2019, 06:28:24 PM
Surprised to see Wright double deck 47 in Lichfield this lunchtime thought these had been sold.
Passed to a dealer recently then returned & put back into service.
46 also still in service noted in Lichfield Bus station this morning
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/538451/
x61 wolves to burton?
Presumably a seasonal works service - see my reference to service from Smethwick a few posts up.
Which company in burton do these new services operate to?
Boots.
Quote from: BusMan Greg on August 21, 2019, 01:06:40 PM
Does the 813 still run?
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According to Staffordshire website a new service from Burton to Rodbaston College is running as 813 - no timetable on Midland Classic website or traveline, so perhaps closed door service listed in error? The college booklet has an 844 and certainly implies closed door - unless the 844 was oversubscribed and 813 is commercial?
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This may be connected with reported hire of Centrebus 702 as 218?
Quote from: mikestone on September 10, 2019, 06:59:46 PM
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According to Staffordshire website a new service from Burton to Rodbaston College is running as 813 - no timetable on Midland Classic website or traveline, so perhaps closed door service listed in error? The college booklet has an 844 and certainly implies closed door - unless the 844 was oversubscribed and 813 is commercial?
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This may be connected with reported hire of Centrebus 702 as 218?
The registration for the 813 was submitted at short notice, not a closed door service.
Quote from: pb2012 on September 06, 2019, 11:16:52 AM
https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.service.gov.uk/search/find-registered-local-bus-services/details/538451/
x61 wolves to burton?
Timetable now on Midland Classic website
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http://www.midlandclassic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Boots-web-2019.pdf
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Staffordshire website reveals virtually all services changing from 28th October, including extending the 9 to East Midlands Airport.
PD1050801/47 Registered
MIDLAND CLASSIC LIMITED
Route: Wolverhampton, Stafford Street to Burton on Trent, Centrum 100
Service number: X61 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 21 Oct 2019
Will Midland Classic be operating the JL1 service from Edgbaston (Priory Road) to John Lewis, Reditch again?
Any news on F96PRE? It is showing on the bustimes tracker, but it seems unlikely that it is equipped with a machine that talks to trackers - perhaps the fitter uses its details for test purposes?
Looks like Midland Classic have acquired an ex Yourbus Enviro 200 in the form of YY67 USO. It's just passed through Kingstanding on the X18 to Burton.
Quote from: Michael Bevan on November 15, 2019, 09:01:35 AM
Looks like Midland Classic have acquired an ex Yourbus Enviro 200 in the form of YY67 USO. It's just passed through Kingstanding on the X18 to Burton.
They have acquired 3 - USO (22), USB (39) and USF (40).
Can anyone travel on the Boots Burton services.
And are fares the same as normal, or do special fares apply?
on their website: http://www.midlandclassic.com/routes-and-services/
"Open to all wishing to travel. Standard fares apply"
Quote from: CL on November 25, 2019, 02:39:30 PM
on their website: http://www.midlandclassic.com/routes-and-services/
"Open to all wishing to travel. Standard fares apply"
Can anyone confirm whether "standard fares apply", includes the concessionary travel pass as well?
Edit - I contacted them and was told it isn't valid and that special fares do apply to these services - fares are £3.50 single and £6 return. No day tickets are valid either.
Am I right to assume the 'airline 9' route is subsidised? Is the whole route now subsidised?
Saw a midland classic vehicle on rail replacement at merry hill today
Increase of VA from 46 to 52 in today's N&P - seems odd given that presumably there was a bigger PVR prior to Christmas - or had it just not been published when it happened?
Even odder is that today's N&P is actually on the vosa website!
Bustimes suggests that 44 vehicles have been in service today, which would suggest that the increase is to allow for future expansion.
Photo on Derby Bus Depot site of F96PRE back in Stevensons' livery.
According to the article below there are going to be major changes to the Burton network which include the withdrawal of the number 3 and the extension of the number 9 to the queens hospital Mon-Sat. Other changes include minor timetable amendments.
Read more regarding the matter below
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/burton/big-changes-burtons-buses-you-3965343
Or look at Staffordshire website which has had it for several days without any "answer this to carry on reading" nonsense and doesn't lead with a scare mongering withdrawal of hospital buses story..
Does anyone know what font Midland classic use for their route numbers?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on March 22, 2020, 07:59:00 PM
Does anyone know what font Midland classic use for their route numbers?
If you are referring to the destination displays, it is Arial black. It is exactly the same as what Arriva Shrewsbury use. If you are trying to get it in Helen, it isn't in the standard drop down font list. Instead you have to:
Click the little box on the left hand side of the standard font drop down box for the route number font (the one under the green and purple T's)
A menu will appear where you can select what type of font you want (these are standard fonts that you'd find in Microsoft Word e.t.c)
Click Arial where you can specify what style of Arial you'd like. This is where you click black.
You can select what size you want here, or you can alter it on the main screen.
Hope this helps!
Quote from: mikestone on March 21, 2020, 11:05:38 AM
Or look at Staffordshire website which has had it for several days without any "answer this to carry on reading" nonsense and doesn't lead with a scare mongering withdrawal of hospital buses story..
Probably only of academic interest now, but not of course mentioned there is a new Swadlincote town service numbered 20 registered in last weeks N&P presumably replacing routes 4 and 8 which will terminate at Swad according to Derbyshire timetable library.
It has been reported that 63 has lost its Burton Corporation livery and now has a "Key Workers" embelishments on fleet livery.
Quote from: mikestone on June 07, 2020, 06:51:40 PM
It has been reported that 63 has lost its Burton Corporation livery and now has a "Key Workers" embelishments on fleet livery.
Been like that for a couple of weeks now
Midland Classic gained six former Metroline Presidents towards the end of July/start of August.
101 - LK04 NNE
102 - LK04 NNF
103 - LK04 NNL
104 - LK54 FWL
105 - LK54 FWO
106 - LK54 FWR
They've only entered service from last week, I believe. Managed to capture 105 under the railway arches in Tamworth today.
Lichfield City services have become 31/2, as 8xx series numbers are school routes and the 812 is now 12.
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Were the city services 31/2 in a previous incarnation?
Quote from: mikestone on September 09, 2020, 09:06:59 PM
Lichfield City services have become 31/2, as 8xx series numbers are school routes and the 812 is now 12.
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Were the city services 31/2 in a previous incarnation?
Before coming the 821/2 they were the 20/1/2 I believe (when Diamond/CC ran them)
A new Rugeley-Lichfield school service was to start tomorrow - presumably along with the Stafford-Cannock Select service these are a direct result of the Cannock takeover by D&G.
MC seems to have acquired (at least) three Scania Irizar i3s; former Menzies' YN64 FWX/FWY/FWZ
Quote from: CL on January 10, 2021, 09:04:50 PM
MC seems to have acquired (at least) three Scania Irizar i3s; former Menzies' YN64 FWX/FWY/FWZ
Should be 6 according to Derby bus depot webpage including YN64 FWU FWV FWW
bustimes is consistently showing Olympian 96 on the 808 - anyone know if that's right, or has there been a ticket machine swop?
Quote from: mikestone on March 28, 2021, 10:31:31 PM
bustimes is consistently showing Olympian 96 on the 808 - anyone know if that's right, or has there been a ticket machine swop?
I'd say so yes, 96 is a regualr on school's from what I can gather!
As of the 19th of April, a new service 12E will be introduced between Lichfield & Burton which will bring new early morning & late night links to the area (The last trip off Lichfield is 2220). This service is semi-fast and misses out the villages of Kings Bromley & Yoxall! I'd imagine these journies are funded by the council?
Quote from: BusMan Greg on April 08, 2021, 07:43:06 PM
As of the 19th of April, a new service 12E will be introduced between Lichfield & Burton which will bring new early morning & late night links to the area (The last trip off Lichfield is 2220). This service is semi-fast and misses out the villages of Kings Bromley & Yoxall! I'd imagine these journeys are funded by the council?
Unlikely to be council-funded, as Staffordshire County Council withdrew funding for evening and Sunday routes well before the pandemic. The new early and late 12E journeys seem to tie in with potential 6am starts and 10pm finishes for workers in the various Fradley Park warehouses and distribution depots, and positioning the vehicle to/from Burton, so they're possibly commercial. If there were developer or employer funding it would probably be mentioned somewhere.
Irizar i3, fleet number 26, on its first day in service
https://flic.kr/p/2m6rb3v
Quote from: CL on June 19, 2021, 09:34:45 AM
Irizar i3, fleet number 26, on its first day in service
https://flic.kr/p/2m6rb3v
What nice vehicles they look!
It was on the X12 today.
Another acquisition for Midland Classic today: MCV EvoRa, BV21 OPM
Those Scania irizars really do look outstanding vehicles. Managed to sample two of midland classics fleet today. President 105 on the 12 (what a great route that one is) and 92 on the 401 (very quick e400). Double deckers have some great scenery too. West Midlands is so dull now
It is also reported they have acquired some from Sc/Irizar from Reading Buses too.
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Quote from: Trident 4194 on July 29, 2021, 07:53:36 PM
Those Scania irizars really do look outstanding vehicles. Managed to sample two of midland classics fleet today. President 105 on the 12 (what a great route that one is) and 92 on the 401 (very quick e400). Double deckers have some great scenery too. West Midlands is so dull now
The 12 is a lovely ride out! I'd sooner spend an extra half hour on that than the X12
Quote from: mikestone on July 29, 2021, 08:17:32 PM
It is also reported they have acquired some from Sc/Irizar from Reading Buses too.
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They've acquired all the Reading Buses ones. There are only 3 remaining i3's in the country I believe which MC dont own now.
I know London General have a few irizar i2s which are similar in appearance but are fully electric.
Can't understand why there aren't more as they're really well made and look good too
What I absolutely love about Midland Classic is they aren't afraid to experiment and test new vehicle types away from standard fleet stock. These Irizars are a perfect example and James has really flown the flag for the smaller independent operators. If you look at similar sized operators and how they run any old stock just to run services, it just shows how easy James makes it look (although logistically and financially it isn't!).
All that aside, anyone who is prepared to run the prototype Metrobus TOJ592S will always get my vote!!!!
YN17ONJ on rail replacement at Bromsgrove this afternoon. Rather smart vehicle.
Quote from: B61 ANDREW on August 08, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
YN17ONJ on rail replacement at Bromsgrove this afternoon. Rather smart vehicle.
One of their 21 plate MCV eVoRa B8RLEs was on there too.
Is there more than one?
Quote from: mikestone on August 09, 2021, 09:50:31 AM
Is there more than one?
Good point, I've just checked and they seem to only have the one.
Quote from: DJ on August 08, 2021, 09:47:25 PM
One of their 21 plate MCV eVoRa B8RLEs was on there too.
Cheers , I missed that one ! Mind you , "ONJ" was parked up all the time I was around. :)
What I assume to be Olympian 96 is in one of the yards at Tamworth - has it left the fleet?
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Ex Reading Irizar 15 is now in fleet livery
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At least two of the 66 reg Optares are branded for the 9 to EMA.
Quote from: mikestone on August 23, 2021, 02:41:40 PM
What I assume to be Olympian 96 is in one of the yards at Tamworth - has it left the fleet?
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Ex Reading Irizar 15 is now in fleet livery
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At least two of the 66 reg Optares are branded for the 9 to EMA.
Most likely 97 (F97 PRE) which is privately owned.
Metrocities 6 - 9 are all branded for the Airline 9 and have been for quite a while now! The other two 4 and 5 (the shorter ones) are yet to be branded
Irizar 17 YN17 ONJ looked very good in the sun at Showbus today (26/09/2021)
Quote from: Ian Hardy on September 26, 2021, 08:25:11 PM
Irizar 17 YN17 ONJ looked very good in the sun at Showbus today (26/09/2021)
It won a prize as well:
Doyen Single deck entry 254 Midland Classic Irizar i3
Does anyone know what the X11 to Newtown was that was shown on Bustimes a few days back?
Quote from: Wumpty on October 06, 2021, 02:32:38 PM
Does anyone know what the X11 to Newtown was that was shown on Bustimes a few days back?
Seasonal workers service to Boots Warehouse in Burton
Quote from: metrocity on October 06, 2021, 02:54:07 PM
Seasonal workers service to Boots Warehouse in Burton
Thanks - Easter's started early again ;D
Is there a list of the X contract services running as there's nothing shown on their website?
Quote from: Wumpty on November 03, 2021, 10:14:24 AM
Is there a list of the X contract services running as there's nothing shown on their website?
One to DHL Coventry from Erdington I think. I saw it last week one evening in Erdington.
The fact that it's not on the website will probably mean that it is closed door and not available to the general public.
Quote from: Wumpty on November 03, 2021, 10:14:24 AM
Is there a list of the X contract services running as there's nothing shown on their website?
X46 Dudley to Burton-upon-Trent
Pulsar YJ07 JDZ (ex-Diamond 32101) acquired
Quote from: Wumpty on November 03, 2021, 10:14:24 AM
Is there a list of the X contract services running as there's nothing shown on their website?
X45 Erdington to Coventry DHL
X39 Chaddesden, Derby to Burton-upon-Trent Boots
X11 Newtown, Birmingham to Burton-upon-Trent Boots
There was an X76 showing on bustimes as well but I can't see where the full route was.
Quote from: 2206 on November 10, 2021, 05:22:12 PM
No, Coventry DHL.
EDIT: Changed it.
Quote from: ellspurs on November 10, 2021, 05:21:29 PM
X45 Erdington to Burton-upon-Trent Boots
No, Coventry DHL.
Quote from: CL on November 10, 2021, 04:40:55 PM
Pulsar YJ07 JDZ (ex-Diamond 32101) acquired
I believe that one's a Commander with the older style bodywork.
Yes it is a commander not a pulsar
Quote from: CL on November 10, 2021, 04:40:55 PM
Pulsar YJ07 JDZ (ex-Diamond 32101) acquired
Are you sure it's ex-32101? There's a photo now on Facebook of 32122 (YJ08 EFW) at their depot, not sure if that's in addition to the Commander or instead of it though.
Just the Pulsar, sorry
Quote from: ellspurs on November 10, 2021, 05:21:29 PM
X45 Erdington to Coventry DHL
X39 Chaddesden, Derby to Burton-upon-Trent Boots
X11 Newtown, Birmingham to Burton-upon-Trent Boots
There was an X76 showing on bustimes as well but I can't see where the full route was.
EDIT: Changed it.
X46 Dudley - Burton-upon-Trent Boots via Walsall
Quote from: 4679 on November 13, 2021, 04:51:33 PM
X46 Dudley - Burton-upon-Trent Boots via Walsall
A X44 to Coventry was by Lyndon Road yesterday evening on the Coventry Road.
BV 21 OPM , Volvo / MCV on rail replacement at Bromsgrove earlier this afternoon.
The X11 is now advertised and specifically noted as available to all and having local fares, although it doesn't say what they are apart from a £6 return to Burton.
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On 3rd February bustimes has the Routemaster on it.
Midland Classic have registered LCC contracted services 125 and 129 from 1st August.
Services 125 and 129 only require only one bus each all day although some dead mileage is required.
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| PD1050801/63 | 125 | Castle Donington Bus Station | Leicester, Gravel Street | | 1 Aug 22 |
| PD1050801/62 | 129 | Ashby de la Zouch | Loughborough | | 1 Aug 22 |
Looks like bus 38 in an accident ran into a Post Office yesterday lunchtime.
Derby Telegraph Video looks like not badly damaged & reports one person sent to hospital
When are you moving this thread to Rotala?
Quote from: andy41 on August 03, 2022, 01:57:52 PMWhen are you moving this thread to Rotala?
Jesus, give them chance! There's nothing official yet anyway.
Quote from: DJ on August 03, 2022, 01:58:56 PMJesus, give them chance! There's nothing official yet anyway.
Keep up. Yes there is.
Quote from: andy41 on August 03, 2022, 02:01:02 PMKeep up. Yes there is.
Okay, now there is. It's now showing on the London Stock Exchange.
https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/ROL/acquisition/15569892
Quote from: DJ on August 03, 2022, 02:03:53 PMOkay, now there is. It's now showing on the London Stock Exchange.
https://www.londonstockexchange.com/news-article/ROL/acquisition/1556989
You don't say!
Wonder where this leaves the little 'mini ' group around there?
D & G/Chaserider & Select left, of Peddle interests.
Quote from: Westy on August 03, 2022, 03:23:51 PMWonder where this leaves the little 'mini ' group around there?
D & G/Chaserider & Select left, of Peddle interests.
It probably leaves them exactly where they were, in the Centrebus Group in the case of D&G and Chaserider and in the ownership of Mr Brown in the case of Select.
It makes no difference whatsoever seeing as MC was not related to any of those businesses.
Rotala Purchased Midland classic now?? It seems like diamond is putting a end to smaller operators in the West Midlands then.
I'd laugh if Rotala's next purchase would be "Diamond Bus South West"
The paint shops will be busy for the next few months then!
Can we expect Tamworth to be incorporated into Diamond East Midlands?
Hopefully it'll go a tad better than the disaster that was the Johnsons acquisition.
Quote from: andy41 on August 03, 2022, 03:46:46 PMIt makes no difference whatsoever seeing as MC was not related to any of those businesses.
Midland Classic was related to all of D&G, Chaserider, Select & Centrebus Group via Julian Peddle. He was a Director at Midland Classic up until resigning on today's takeover.
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2022, 05:04:42 PMThe paint shops will be busy for the next few months then!
Can we expect Tamworth to be incorporated into Diamond East Midlands?
Tamworth run the 25 Ward End - Erdington and 600 Erdington Circular. As well as a few journeys on the 94 that come off the 25.
Wonder if these would move to Tividale and they will run the 76/A from Burton like the current MC 20 which runs in Tamworth. The 15/16S/X16 and 35 in Staffordshire are all proposed to be withdrawn.
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2022, 05:04:42 PMCan we expect Tamworth to be incorporated into Diamond East Midlands?
Why would they do that when Tamworth is part of West Midlands (the wider region, not just the county!)
Quote from: 2206 on August 03, 2022, 07:07:38 PMTamworth also run the 25 Ward End - Erdington and 600 Erdington Circular. As well as a few journeys on the 94 that come off the 25.
Wonder if these would move to Tividale if Tamworth closed.
Why would they close the Tamworth depot?
Quote from: Stu on August 03, 2022, 07:12:52 PMWhy would they close the Tamworth depot?
Post August the only route Tamworth will run in the Tamworth area will be the 76/A and Midland Classic (Or Diamond East Midlandss soon) do already run into the Tamworth area from Burton on the 20.
I think some years ago Diamond closed Long Arce in Nechells and consolidated it into Tividale and Redditch, so maybe they'd do the same with Tamworth & Burton.
Quote from: Stu on August 03, 2022, 07:12:52 PMWhy would they do that when Tamworth is part of West Midlands (the wider region, not just the county!)
Why would they close the Tamworth depot?
Tamworth is part of Staffordshire, as is the Midland Classic depot (30mins away from Tamworth).
As the Tamworth "depot" is an outstation of Tividale and from what I understand, a yard with minimal facilities, it may make sense to operate its services out of the Burton depot.
There's a *rumour* around about another acquisition more local to the current Tamworth depot which, if true, would render the Tamworth outstation obsolete.
Quote from: winston on August 03, 2022, 05:36:40 PMMidland Classic was related to all of D&G, Chaserider, Select & Centrebus Group via Julian Peddle. He was a Director at Midland Classic up until resigning on today's takeover.
But he was simply a Director. That doesn't make the businesses related and it doesn't mean anything to these other businesses or their future. That was my point.
Lots of people are directors of multiple businesses that mean nothing to each other.
Quote from: MW on August 03, 2022, 08:07:05 PMTamworth is part of Staffordshire, as is the Midland Classic depot (30mins away from Tamworth).
As the Tamworth "depot" is an outstation of Tividale and from what I understand, a yard with minimal facilities, it may make sense to operate its services out of the Burton depot.
There's a *rumour* around about another acquisition more local to the current Tamworth depot which, if true, would render the Tamworth outstation obsolete.
Well, I can only think of one 'major' one, and we know that the parent company have already disposed of depots locally over the past few years.
Quote from: andy41 on August 03, 2022, 11:52:51 PMBut he was simply a Director. That doesn't make the businesses related and it doesn't mean anything to these other businesses or their future. That was my point.
Lots of people are directors of multiple businesses that mean nothing to each other.
Julian Peddle wasn't simply a Director, he owned shares in Midland Classic as he still does with Select Bus & Centrebus Group (owners of D&G & Chaserider) and there have been close ties / links / overlap with his various shareholdings in the past in different ways. There also appears to be close ties between Julian Peddle & Arriva, which incidentally Midland Classic originated from. I'm not suggesting anything will change with the remainder of his shareholdings now Midland Classic has been sold, but neither do I believe that JP's bus operator shareholdings all worked completely independent of one another.
IIRC Select Bus for example have expanded a number of times in recent years by taking over D&G's Stafford area services & subsequently Chaserider's Stafford Town Service, Select Bus aren't owned by Centrebus Group (owners of D&G & Chaserider) but they do have the common link via JP being a shareholder in both, coincidence....
Quote from: winston on August 04, 2022, 12:01:49 PMJulian Peddle wasn't simply a Director, he owned shares in Midland Classic as he still does with Select Bus & Centrebus Group (owners of D&G & Chaserider) and there have been close ties / links / overlap with his various shareholdings in the past in different ways. There also appears to be close ties between Julian Peddle & Arriva, which incidentally Midland Classic originated from. I'm not suggesting anything will change with the remainder of his shareholdings now Midland Classic has been sold, but neither do I believe that JP's bus operator shareholdings all worked completely independent of one another.
IIRC Select Bus for example have expanded a number of times in recent years by taking over D&G's Stafford area services & subsequently Chaserider's Stafford Town Service, Select Bus aren't owned by Centrebus Group (owners of D&G & Chaserider) but they do have the common link via JP being a shareholder in both, coincidence....
There was far less of an input at MC, merely a (minority) financial one and nothing more.
Centrebus Group including Centrebus, High Peak, D&G and Chaserider are a different kettle of fish. Whereas at Select the situation more resembles MC.
So I repeat, absolutely no consequence for other businesses. Suggestions by other posters that infer otherwise are just unhelpful speculation at the least.
New Fleet Numbers for the Ex Midland Classic Buses, all information found on https://ukbuses.co.uk/fleet/diamondbuses.pdf
Scania L94UB Wright Solar
30901 - YN05 GXL
30902 - YN05 GXJ
30903 - YN05 GXH
30904 - YN05 GXG
30905 - FX55 VLO
30906 - FX55 VKH
30907 - FX55 YKG
30908 - YN57 FWG
VDL SB200 Wright Pulsar
30909 - JP54 MCL
Optare Versa
30910 - JB08 MCL
30912 - NK09 FVE
Scania K230UB ADL Enviro300
30913 - HX62 MCL
Scania Irizar i3
30985 - YN64 FWZ
30986 - YN64 FWY
30987 - YN64 FWX
30988 - YN64 FWW
30989 - YN64 FWV
30990 - YN64 FWU
30997 - YN17 ONL
30998 - YN17 ONK
30999 - YN17 ONJ
31000 - YN17 ONH
31001 - YN17 ONG
31002 - YN17 ONF
Optare Metrocity
30991 - YJ16 DXU
30992 - YJ16 DXT
30993 - YJ66 APK
30994 - YJ66 APF
30995 - YJ66 AOZ
30996 - YJ66 AOY
Volvo B8RLE MCV EvoRa
31003 - BV21 OPM
ADL Enivro200
31423 - YX12 AYZ
31424 - YX12 AKK
31425 - YX12 DJE
31426 - YX12 DJD
31427 - YX12 AZW
31428 - KW14 MCL
31429 - JB14 MCL
31430 - JB64 MCL
31431 - YY67 USO
31432 - YY67 USF
31433 - YY67 USB
Scania OmniCity
40519 - YN08 MKP
40520 - YN08 MKO
ADL Enviro 400
40521 - SN11 BNL
40522 - SN11 BNE
40523 - SN11 BND
40524 - SN11 BNA
40525 - SN11 BMZ
40526 - SN11 BMV
40527 - SN11 BMU
VDL Wright Pulsar Gemini
40633 - LJ04 LFV
40634 - LJ04 LGA
Volvo B7TL Plaxton President
40635 - LK04 NNL
40636 - LK04 NNF
40637 - LK04 NNE
40638 - LK54 FWO
40639 - LK54 FWL
40640 - LK54 FWR
I get the feeling that a number of these buses will get sold on rather quickly after the full takeover due to most of them being none standard. If the cuts to Manchester are as big as they are saying and if Diamond don't win franchises up there, I can see a lot of Streetlites and Streetdecks coming into Burton to take over.
I thought some of the posts from "DJ" and "Andy41" over the last 2/3 days were a bit too sarcastic for this site where, on the whole, we respect one another's views even if we don't always agree with them.
Diamond street deck 40736 is currently ( was) at the midland classic depot ( pic on Facebook )
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 05, 2022, 10:11:14 PMDiamond street deck 40736 is currently ( was) at the midland classic depot ( pic on Facebook )
Its 40726 from Redditch
Quote from: winston on August 05, 2022, 10:12:45 PMIts 40726 from Redditch
Yes that's the one , is there a date when diamond take over , or have they already ?
Quote from: Jack6101 on August 05, 2022, 10:29:50 PMYes that's the one , is there a date when diamond take over , or have they already ?
Rotala took over from 3rd August
Looking at the lists of ex Midland Classic fleet numbers there seems to be some omissions on both the Buses website and on here. The ones missing are:
| 29 | YN 03 ZXC | Optare Solo M920 |
| 30 | YN 04 LWT | Optare Solo M920 |
| 32 | YX 09 FMP | Alexander Dennis E20D |
| 56 | BV 55 UCU | Scania N94UD |
| 85 | TFA 13 | Scania L94UB |
| 91 | LK 56 FHE | Alexander Dennis Trident 2 |
| 93 | LK 57 AXM | Alexander Dennis Trident 2 |
TFA 13 was originally YN 04 ANX and is in the heritage livery of Stevensons of Uttoxeter. Any thoughts, knowledge or ideas.
Quote from: Grinder on August 08, 2022, 11:29:57 AMLooking at the lists of ex Midland Classic fleet numbers there seems to be some omissions on both the Buses website and on here. The ones missing are:
| 29 | YN 03 ZXC | Optare Solo M920 |
| 30 | YN 04 LWT | Optare Solo M920 |
| 32 | YX 09 FMP | Alexander Dennis E20D |
| 56 | BV 55 UCU | Scania N94UD |
| 85 | TFA 13 | Scania L94UB |
| 91 | LK 56 FHE | Alexander Dennis Trident 2 |
| 93 | LK 57 AXM | Alexander Dennis Trident 2 |
TFA 13 was originally YN 04 ANX and is in the heritage livery of Stevensons of Uttoxeter. Any thoughts, knowledge or ideas.
I cannot comment on all of these. However, TFA13 is owned personally by the former owner. YX09FMP is a vehicle which is no longer owned by the company.
Quote from: Grinder on August 08, 2022, 11:29:57 AMLooking at the lists of ex Midland Classic fleet numbers there seems to be some omissions on both the Buses website and on here. The ones missing are:
| 29 | YN 03 ZXC | Optare Solo M920 |
| 30 | YN 04 LWT | Optare Solo M920 |
| 32 | YX 09 FMP | Alexander Dennis E20D |
| 56 | BV 55 UCU | Scania N94UD |
| 85 | TFA 13 | Scania L94UB |
| 91 | LK 56 FHE | Alexander Dennis Trident 2 |
| 93 | LK 57 AXM | Alexander Dennis Trident 2 |
TFA 13 was originally YN 04 ANX and is in the heritage livery of Stevensons of Uttoxeter. Any thoughts, knowledge or ideas.
29 and 30 both withdrawn prior to sale
91 and 93 both withdrawn and sold last year
Quote from: SSmith2009 on August 08, 2022, 12:28:39 PM29 and 30 both withdrawn prior to sale
91 and 93 both withdrawn and sold last year
56 was sold a while ago too (think it was to connexions buses)
Have the ex-Johnson's s/d Scania buses actually "gone" ?? As they could fit in with Classics fleet profile.
Metrocity's 30972 and 30974 have come across to Burton from Kidderminster.
E200 31417 has been repainted and now in use. Believe is tracking as 220 on Bus Times.
Also won are some Derbyshire contracts which start on Monday:
9/9A Derby - Spondon - Borrowash circular
70/V3 Derby - Barrow on Trent
73 Derby - Weston on Trent
3 of the Scania Irizar i3's have left the fleet and returned to Reading buses. These being 30997, 998 and 999.
30913 is the first of the ex Midland Classic fleet to be repainted. 31428 seems to be next in line.
Route 32 on weekdays is now run by Diamond West Midlands and also seems to be the 20 and X11.
Quote from: twbc99 on November 10, 2022, 06:29:03 PM3 of the Scania Irizar i3's have left the fleet and returned to Reading buses. These being 30997, 998 and 999.
30913 is the first of the ex Midland Classic fleet to be repainted. 31428 seems to be next in line.
Route 32 on weekdays is now run by Diamond West Midlands and also seems to be the 20 and X11.
Makes sense to run 20 from Tamworth. As the two return trips on X11 begin / end in Birmingham that avoids dead mileage, they appear to be Redditch operated and have 50 trips on the duty too.
New service 19A is due to begin on the 17th April running weekdays only from Burton and Swad to Mercia Park mostly in the morning and evening.
Sadly it looks like the Boots X11 will cease, again. This will take effect 7th May. Not sure if it's low usage or Boots have cut the funding. Shame to see the route lost but I do think that it's a shame that more wasn't done with the route to try and get normal people onboard.
Quote from: IMarkeh on April 07, 2023, 03:33:29 AMSadly it looks like the Boots X11 will cease, again. This will take effect 7th May. Not sure if it's low usage or Boots have cut the funding. Shame to see the route lost but I do think that it's a shame that more wasn't done with the route to try and get normal people onboard.
The X11 may just be swapping operator?
Quote from: winston on April 07, 2023, 09:59:48 AMThe X11 may just be swapping operator?
I can only go off what Diamond has said
https://www.diamondbuses.com/service-updates/
QuoteX11 Service Cancellation 31/03/2023 12:36:30
From 7th May 2023
Please be aware that service X11 will be withdrawn from 7th May 2023.
For alternative journey planning solutions please visit https://journeyplanner.tfwm.org.uk/ (https://journeyplanner.tfwm.org.uk/)
Affected Services: X11 (https://www.diamondbuses.com/bus-services/wm/wmx11-aston/)
Affected Regions: Staffordshire, (https://www.diamondbuses.com/Staffordshire?region=Staffordshire) West Midlands (https://www.diamondbuses.com/West-Midlands?region=WestMidlands)
Former Yellow bus Gemini 3's have started to enter service at Burton. These being:
40612 BF15 KFE
40613 BF15 KFD
QuoteFormer Yellow bus Gemini 3's have started to enter service at Burton. These being:
40612 BF15 KFE
40613 BF15 KFD
40613 on Burton depot on 8/4:
(https://www.flickr.com/photos/58130037@N02/52830534975/in/dateposted/)
ROT 40613 080423 | OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA | Pennard Postman | Flickr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/58130037@N02/52830534975/in/dateposted/)
All but 40614 have now entered service for the Gemini 3's at Burton.
There is also a post on the rail forums thread stating that 40824 and 40826 have moved over to Burton. If this is the case are these additional or to replace anything? Maybe the Omnicity's?
Looks like repainting of the existing fleet may have started as E400 40522 is showing as now in Diamond livery on Bus Times fleet list.
I would love to see an E400 in diamond livery
The evora has been repainted, looks really good esp with the blue interior lights tbh
QuoteI would love to see an E400 in diamond livery
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53324974731_f7751350b1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pf9rb4)[40522] SN11 BNE (https://flic.kr/p/2pf9rb4) by William Scott (https://www.flickr.com/photos/195442986@N02/), on Flickr
(not my photo)
lovely
im going burton on my next trip
31003 the evora is now in brighter diamond livery
Yes it was reported that 31003 was painted on the 9th November on this thread
MetroCity's 30991 and 30992 have both been repainted now.
Has 31423 been withdrawn as I've heard rumours that it has
Quote from: BNH2004 on December 03, 2023, 09:35:24 PMHas 31423 been withdrawn as I've heard rumours that it has
Over the last few days it has been added and removed from the bustimes fleet list a few times with the removal posts stating that it has been involved in a RTC.
Quote from: twbc99 on December 04, 2023, 06:30:17 PMOver the last few days it has been added and removed from the bustimes fleet list a few times with the removal posts stating that it has been involved in a RTC.
I've seen a photo of the damage, it may be a write off, but I could be wrong, it could get repaired and repainted into brighter diamond livery but again not too sure, people are just jumping into conclusions that it's withdrawn.
Just when you think that Diamond can't be any more anti-passenger, they have decided to withdraw themselves from The Knot, multi operator ticket scheme as of the 19th January. What an absolute joke. I am often quite supportive of Diamond where I can be but at a time when the rest of the industry is trying to get more passengers onboard, in swoops Diamond Midlands to give everyone a kick in the teeth.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/service-updates/
QuoteFrom 19th January 2024
From 19th January 2024, Diamond Bus will no longer accept Staffordshire Knot Multi-Operator tickets on our services.
To continue to accept Knot tickets, would impact on the commercial viability of our services in the Staffordshire area.
Therefore we have taken the decision to leave the Knot scheme.
Quote from: IMarkeh on January 03, 2024, 12:50:45 AMJust when you think that Diamond can't be any more anti-passenger, they have decided to withdraw themselves from The Knot, multi operator ticket scheme as of the 19th January. What an absolute joke. I am often quite supportive of Diamond where I can be but at a time when the rest of the industry is trying to get more passengers onboard, in swoops Diamond Midlands to give everyone a kick in the teeth.
https://www.diamondbuses.com/service-updates/
And possibly put The Knot itself in jepoardy!
Quote from: Westy on January 03, 2024, 06:52:39 PMAnd possibly put The Knot itself in jepoardy!
What a wonderful thing for Diamond to do. I know Staffordshire aren't the most 'pro bus' authority but surely as it's one of the only good things to happen in the area, they should support it.
If Staffordshire Council has any sense, they will make it a requirement of tenders. That will soon change things.
What's the reason for the withdrawal of 40833?
Quote from: markcf83 on January 04, 2024, 07:37:46 PMWhat's the reason for the withdrawal of 40833?
Shop incident in Manchester
Quote from: IMarkeh on January 03, 2024, 06:56:57 PMWhat a wonderful thing for Diamond to do. I know Staffordshire aren't the most 'pro bus' authority but surely as it's one of the only good things to happen in the area, they should support it.
If Staffordshire Council has any sense, they will make it a requirement of tenders. That will soon change things.
Please bare in mind the reasoning behind the decision, while I agree it seems a backwards step the main reason stated by Diamond seems to be the viability of the commercial network. Perhaps the process of claiming money back from the council for acceptance is too slow. Making it a condition of tenders would not make any difference to Diamond's commercial network in my opinion.
Quote from: Tony on January 04, 2024, 07:43:25 PMShop incident in Manchester
That was Citaro 33009.
40833 was another bridgestrike running dead back to Eccles Deopt. Its not withdrawn, officially only VOR whilst it has its roof repaired.
Quote from: Rachvince53 on January 04, 2024, 08:05:24 PMPlease bare in mind the reasoning behind the decision, while I agree it seems a backwards step the main reason stated by Diamond seems to be the viability of the commercial network. Perhaps the process of claiming money back from the council for acceptance is too slow. Making it a condition of tenders would not make any difference to Diamond's commercial network in my opinion.
Making it a condition of tenders would kind of force Diamond to accept it more because of the contracts that they have.
For Diamond, of all operators, to claim that a low usage multi operator ticket is going to cripple the commercial network is laughable. Especially when cowboys such as Select accept the ticket, it really can't be that bad.
Quote from: IMarkeh on January 05, 2024, 10:50:44 AMMaking it a condition of tenders would kind of force Diamond to accept it more because of the contracts that they have.
For Diamond, of all operators, to claim that a low usage multi operator ticket is going to cripple the commercial network is laughable. Especially when cowboys such as Select accept the ticket, it really can't be that bad.
If the multi operator ticket was worth retaining financially, they wouldn't be withdrawing from the scheme.
No doubt the decision is based around the reimbursement they receive no longer covering their operating costs.
The text on their website has now changed...
https://www.diamondbuses.com/news/staffordshire-knot-withdrawal/
QuoteFrom 19th January 2024, Diamond Bus will no longer accept Staffordshire Knot Multi-Operator tickets on the majority of our services.
To continue to accept Knot tickets, would impact on the commercial viability of our services in the Staffordshire area. Therefore we have taken the decision to withdraw from the scheme for our commercially operated services.
From 19/01/24, Knot tickets will continue to be available and valid on the following Diamond services only:
1 Burton to Tutbury
10 Burton to Acorn Inn
11 Burton to Anglesey Road
12E Burton to Lichfield
They will no longer be accepted on board other Diamond services.
Well that's going to be confusing, especially for passengers who will be also using a Diamond Bus service not covered by the Knot.
31003 (evora) seen in Lichfield around 17:20 this evening, I think it completed a X12 from burton and went out as a 31 Lichfield circular.
Quote from: Wba_lad on January 05, 2024, 08:42:03 PM31003 (evora) seen in Lichfield around 17:20 this evening, I think it completed a X12 from burton and went out as a 31 Lichfield circular.
Yes the X12 and 31 interwork at least until tomorrow when they both go back to standalone routes.
Quote from: twbc99 on January 05, 2024, 08:53:29 PMYes the X12 and 31 interwork at least until tomorrow when they both go back to standalone routes.
Yeah, don't they only run 31 at certain times in the day, because Chaserider take some journeys on the 31 as from tomorrow don't they.
Possibly another Streetdeck transferred to Burton? 40830 MX21 AVE has been tracking on the 21 today.
It appears 3 x Scania's have been withdrawn today before their replacements have been received:
30903
30904
30908
Presumably, this is the reason why 33260, 40840 & 40843 have stopped off at Burton on loan whilst en route to Tividale. Burton are awaiting 31419, 31420 & 31421 from Kidderminster. These will be released in the coming days once the extra 13 plate Streetlites enter service at Kiddi.
30902 seems to have been withdrawn as well.
Quote from: twbc99 on March 12, 2024, 05:56:39 PM30902 seems to have been withdrawn as well.
I assume Burton will get all 4 x E200's from Kidderminster (31416 too).
30903 and 30904 appear to still be in service. 31416, 31419 and 31420 have arrived at Burton but not yet entered service.
Quote from: twbc99 on March 17, 2024, 04:48:57 PM30903 and 30904 appear to still be in service. 31416, 31419 and 31420 have arrived at Burton but not yet entered service.
30903 & 30904 were withdrawn & moved to Tividale depot, but hastily re-instated & returned to Burton due to the condition the Kidderminster E200's were received in.
31419 & 31420 have both been in service for one day at Burton. They've all been off the road the road since....
What state did Kidderminster send the enviros in should of sent them back to put right
Quote from: winston on March 17, 2024, 05:14:28 PM30903 & 30904 were withdrawn & moved to Tividale depot, but hastily re-instated & returned to Burton due to the condition the Kidderminster E200's were received in.
31419 & 31420 have both been in service for one day at Burton. They've all been off the road the road since....
Those e200s are in a dreadful condition I'm not surprised. 31420 I sampled on the 142 and if you think that's doing above 30mph.
Quote from: Trident 4194 on March 17, 2024, 11:30:24 PMThose e200s are in a dreadful condition I'm not surprised. 31420 I sampled on the 142 and if you think that's doing above 30mph.
Looking at bustimes 31420 tracked on a 8 from Swadlincote this morning but only lasted as far as Burton!
31416 looks to been out most of the day.
MCV Evolution 30715 seems to have arrived at the Burton depot.